From my point of view, this is simply
such a cynical, unlawful act.
They really did intend
to engage in hooliganism. They were driving along Tverskaya Street,
stopping, slowing down all the
cars that were overtaking them. They
were shooting at those cars, or at least after
those cars. So this was clearly
an intent specifically to commit hooliganism,
specifically criminal hooliganism.
I believe this is criminal hooliganism.
Of course,
a violation of public order involving
the use of a weapon. That is, Article 213.1
at a minimum, committed by a group organized
according to a prearranged plan, and even
in relation to these authorities... the authorities, so
part two. Well, at the very least—no, well,
I mean, what else. A representative of the Interior Ministry said there had been
no statements or evidence that anyone
was harmed, and so on.
No, Kostya, someone was harmed. Fine, no one was
harmed. With hooliganism, there does not always have to be
a specific victim, right?
It is an antisocial act. That is,
everyone is outraged overall. Whether we are outraged or not,
that is, in principle, the problem,
when there are groups of people
who can commit acts like this in
the center of Moscow. This really is hooliganism.
And they had intent. Why were they doing
it? They were genuinely acting like hooligans.
Right? They were not just firing shots.
Nothing of the sort. It is a tradition.
Maybe it is an act of contemporary art.
An act of contemporary... some women went into a
church, and these guys just fired some shots. We
do not know for sure whether they did or not. If they
were shooting at cars, then where are the victims
in those cars? And that is exactly
why you and I are neither a court nor the
prosecutor's office. We are asking for it to be investigated.
Well said, Lyuba. We are not saying
that we should summon the Dagestanis
here right now and fine them or
jail them ourselves. Let the court jail them; let them, at
the very least, look into it. But when they
fire shots, everyone reports on this
shooting, and then they are released for
100 rubles. That is not normal. I think
we need to contrast the Bolotnaya case
with this case. In the Bolotnaya case (the prosecution following the 2012 Bolotnaya Square protests), 12
people are in prison for no clear reason. There, of all
the
the damage that was allegedly inflicted by these
riot police officers on the OMON officers (special riot police), as we know,
there was only a chipped tooth enamel and a bruised
finger.
And the chipped enamel was fixed, by the way.
The chipped enamel was fixed, in fact. And there
11 people have already been sitting in jail for half a year. And here
you have a whole gang of some Dagestanis,
possibly perfectly fine Dagestanis.
They engage in obvious group
hooliganism. They are fined 100 rubles.
We need to make a leaflet, contrast
these two cases, and distribute it. That is
all. People, we will not even make
any judgments; we will simply say: "People
came out to protest election fraud.
11 people are in jail."
Are we going to write that they are Dagestanis?
We are going to write that they are Dagestanis. We
will write it. We will write that they are Dagestanis,
but there will be nothing in that
that incites ethnic hatred, because
because
they really are Dagestanis.
Because, first of all, they really are
Dagestanis, and second, that is precisely
the political issue here. They are being let go
because they are Dagestanis. They are being let go
because the Putin regime does not want
to get involved with some of their
relatives, who bought them those
Ferraris, for one thing. And secondly, in this
way it is paying for the loyalty of their
Dagestani fathers and mothers, who
manufacture 99% voter turnout.
We need to look for victims, if they
really did shoot at some
car.
There are no victims—that is exactly the point.
Listen, there are none right now because, first of all,
no one is looking for them, and second,
those victims are more afraid of these Dagestanis
than anything else—no one wants to have
anything to do with them. Ramazan Abdulatipov,
commenting on the matter, said that
a real Dagestani should celebrate
his wedding in his native aul (traditional mountain village).
In their native aul. Then let them go to their native
aul if they so badly want
to fire shots there; perhaps they have a
special designated place there
for shooting. They celebrated the wedding,
slaughtered a lamb, fired some shots, went home,
and everyone is happy.
What matters is the concept of a public
place. It is one thing to shoot in a forest, or
well, obviously, Tverskaya—we do still
consider Tverskaya and Mokhovaya to be public places,
right? Yes. That is,
if you can hunt in a forest, then
it is understood, условно, that you are shooting and
hunting, right? It is a forest. But in a
public place you cannot
hunt,
even if there happens to be a deer in that public place.
And the fact that these guys are Dagestanis is
a real problem, because if this had been attempted by
some
poor Chuvash or Udmurts, Chuvash
or Udmurts would already be somewhere
sweating it out
behind closed doors, while the Dagestanis
were let go for 100 rubles, because
they pay in a different way. They bring their own
tribute through falsified votes. And
their housing and utility rates are low, as we already
established in our previous
extremist leaflet.
You’re looking at me rather gloomily, like
those very Dagestanis. It feels as though
I’m looking at Dagestanis at a wedding.
