Ivan the Terrible executed Prince Ivan Ivanovich Bolshoy Kubensky (the elder brother) in 1546 on the basis of a false denunciation. The younger brother, Mikhail Ivanovich Bolshoy Kubensky, fell into disgrace and was stripped of all lands, estates, money, and status. He is believed to have died in 1550. The descendants of the Kubenskys became the Kubarevs, without titles or the ability to mention their lineage. http://kubarev.ru/ru/content/index.htm I got an email from the Grand Prince of All Rus' and a friend of Pushkin. He is calling the Varangians back to Rus': Date: November 16, 2007 Moscow D E C R E E # 3 By the will of the Lord God Almighty and by my command, I establish a new estate of free people with the title of Varangian Men of the new estate shall be called Varangians, women of the new estate shall be called Varyaginy, and girls of the new estate shall be called Varyazhki. Men and women of the new estate may be of any nationality, citizenship, religion, and political convictions, provided they share respect for traditional values. This decree enters into force from the moment of its signing. This decree is published on the Internet and has legal force throughout all the space of the Universe known to humankind. **Grand Prince of All Rus' Valery Viktorovich Kubarev Bolshoy Kubensky (Rurikid) **Pretty funny. Until now, nobody more impressive than Bukowski had ever sent me letters. I'm moving up in the world.