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Attorney Mikhalova Olga Olegovna.

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Attorney Davidova Svetlana Viktorovna.

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Attorney Kobzev Vadim Dmitrievich, the court does not...

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temporarily... the reason was not...

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To be clear, no one brought me here by compulsory escort. I

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came on my own, bought a ticket before

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the order for compulsory escort was issued,

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came here to

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court on my own, checked myself into a hotel in Kirov,

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so I asked, please...

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Please stand up. Excuse me, I have

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a clarification as well, in turn. And I believe

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that materially, our client Ofitserov

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was not brought in by escort. For three years he has

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bought his own ticket and came to

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Kirov on his own. We were not accompanied by court

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bailiffs, neither in Moscow nor in Kirov. I ask

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that this be noted and that my

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corresponding statement be entered into the record

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of the court hearing. Moreover,

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the court order stating that Ofitserov

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was to be brought in by compulsory escort

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was... and there are no notes indicating

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that it was even served on Ofitserov. I

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think

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likewise, there is no indication that it was served on me

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as defense counsel. Besides, to say that

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the reason for Abzov's failure to appear is unknown to the court

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is also incorrect, since there was

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notice to the court that today he has

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a court hearing at the Tverskoy

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District Court of Moscow, and the court was also

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notified by us as early as Sunday that

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on February 1 neither I nor P.S.V. can

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appear here, because I have a case at the Moscow

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District Military Court. The case

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is being heard by a jury in the Nemtsov murder case

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of Nemtsov, and Kozevskaya has

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a court hearing on the possibility of...

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a criminal case under the existing... I believe

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possible... does anyone wish to...

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hearing, criminal case under

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the existing

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appearance

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I would like to receive the documents

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confirming accordingly

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three VK thirty

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first

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we begin with what is visible

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Officer, I notified you on January 29, 2011

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by telegram; the telegram to the court

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was delivered, stating that my client

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Ofitserov, Pyotr Yuryevich, was feeling

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unwell. An ambulance was called for him on

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Friday; the relevant information, respected

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from the ambulance service; data about this also

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is in my notice dated January 26, 2017

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there the full name and address are indicated

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the address. Further, I would like to draw attention

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here to the fact that on January 30, Mr. Ofitserov

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was hospitalized for reasons unknown to me

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and on January 31 was discharged early

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and

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if suddenly Mr. Ofi needs a break

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during the court hearing, I ask that it

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be announced. That is, I am prepared to provide the court

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for review, not for

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inclusion in the case file, exclusively for

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review, the original discharge summary and

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its

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copies. As for

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me, for my part I also sought

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medical assistance

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on January 27

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2017

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and can accordingly provide for

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review

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a copy of the route sheet confirming

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that I was

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consulted by a cardiologist and

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a general practitioner, and

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accordingly, receipts showing

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the exact time

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of the consultation, and I am ready to provide for

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the court's review

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a medical opinion stating that on the 30th

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of January I also visited

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a doctor; my next visit was scheduled for February 2

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2017, and accordingly on February 2

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the sick leave may be closed

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if I feel well and

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accordingly if I do not violate

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the conditions. For

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review, I do not consider it necessary to submit them to the case file

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since these documents contain

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personal

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data. I also do not consider it possible

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to disclose them to the parti-

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for

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But not

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for, well, accordingly, about

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the visit

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my

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now for

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now

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I am not doing

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page

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not the first page, but the second to last

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page

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medical opinion

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Well

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accordingly

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Well, accordingly, here

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and here is

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2

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I wanted to submit the notice that

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was sent by me, as counsel

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on Sunday to the court by email

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original

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I have the original certificates, but

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not

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all of them by email. Here is another

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original

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was also received

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in January of seventeen

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year

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The note says today, January 29

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2017. It was

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presented to Ofi-

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you did not allow

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year

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syste-

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part

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year, I ask you for his rights

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hearing

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hours

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comment

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your

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for now

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since a public person

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undertook

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to present supporting

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documents, сообщe-

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known

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lawy-

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parti-

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in the area of conducting

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relevant social

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actions

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execution of the investigation of Russia

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I submit a request for the conduct of

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investiga-

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first year 15

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hearing, except this

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is being set

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Nadalya

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I will give about

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25

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and d

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this present doc-

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per year

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15:00 SRO law, not criminal

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department

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to Dasha from

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year

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how

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carry out

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Takeda

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year January year

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university rde s

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from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.

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cha

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the issue of notification is being decided

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there is no data

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wait

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regarding email notification to

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the website here contains points stating that inclusion

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a received email is considered

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proper according to the references, regulations, instructions

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proceedings Your Honor, we could not

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send by

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fax on Sunday at 23:28 (11:28 p.m.); in the end we

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sent it by email because

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the fax machine at the Leninsky District Court was not working

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we spent several hours in order to

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still send this fax, but we

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did not manage anything

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succeeded; moreover, on January 27, from

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your assistant I received an oral

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notification that in the correctional

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penal colony No. 18 in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug (a federal district in northern Russia)

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a quarantine had been declared; after that my intern

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my intern received by email

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an email from your assistant

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containing, accordingly, a copy of a letter

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but I was not there at the court

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hearing when it was announced; the copy of the letter

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is addressed to Mr. Tyurin and signed by

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the head of IK-18 of the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia, stating that

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that at present a quarantine has been declared in IK-1

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a quarantine; I would like to review

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the relevant request from the Leninsky

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District Court addressed to IK-18, since

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as follows from this letter signed by

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the head

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of IK-18, this message to the court

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was, accordingly, in response to some

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request; therefore I ask to be allowed to review it

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I do not think that suddenly

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the head of the colony would start notifying

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the court about this on his own initiative

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court

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Moreover, I personally spoke by phone with

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the head of IK-1. He confirmed that a request

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from the court had been made, specifically for January 21

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2017

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year

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not

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we move on to the evidence. Your Honor, please, I

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have a brief remark. I would like

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it to be entered into the record. I

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believe that what is happening now around

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the court bears clear signs of a crime

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provided for by the Criminal Code. You

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know perfectly well what crime this is:

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obstruction of the administration of

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justice; the wording of the provision

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provides that this is interference in

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the court’s activities in any form. What

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we are seeing is pure interference

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Excuse me, but no one—in a situation where

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courts all across Russia are canceling hearings

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specifically involving our lawyers, and heads

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of penal colonies voluntarily send you letters

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and a lawyer who is on sick leave

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is summoned and forcibly driven out of

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the hospital

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and a hospitalized defendant who

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is not even subject to any

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measure of restraint—Your Honor, this is

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interference being carried out by

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persons unknown to me. I do not understand why

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you tolerate this interference. I would like

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once again to draw the court’s attention to the fact that

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we are here for one reason only

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and that reason is that we won

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the previous Kirovles case, proving that

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the trial did not comply with the standards of

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justice and had a political motive, and

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the Supreme Court of Russia agreed with us on this

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—its Presidium (the court’s governing panel). Therefore we are here

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entirely voluntarily, and until the end of the trial we

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have at most three hearings left

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and I find the measures you are applying

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completely unnecessary. The measures that

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are also being applied by some unidentified

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persons, by courts all over the country, and whoever there

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is orchestrating them—they too are entirely unnecessary

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Well, I come to the proceedings voluntarily, yet

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a whole bunch of bailiffs are running around after me in Moscow

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five people escorted me yesterday to

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a flight for which I had quite voluntarily

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bought a ticket. What is all this for? I mean

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these are simply signs of some kind of

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strange reg

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control over the trial, so I would ask you that

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next time, when

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someone tries to give some

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unlawful instructions or orders, or

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otherwise interfere with the course of this

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trial, you inform those citizens that

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Navalny and Ofitserov are very unhappy about it

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and that all these things will sooner or later

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be investigated. Thank you

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very much

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further investigation; this is an order of the rector

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of the Department of State

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Property dated 10/2009 No. 526 on

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initiative

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of financial and economic indicators

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of the activities of ses

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regional as well as asset liquidity

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for the use of credit resources

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it is necessary to conduct an initiative audit

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the activities of that ... and its future prospects

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to approve in 2019

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terms of reference for conducting

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the initiative ... attached

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the department of state enterprises

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institutions was instructed to arrange the conclusion

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of a contract with an auditing organization for

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conducting an audit; the audit report

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of the audit was to be submitted by July 23, 2009

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oversight is assigned to the acting

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deputy director performing the duties

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of the state enterprise/institution

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Perm ... signed ...

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agreed upon

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by employees of the department

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of state property; also, with regard to

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this matter, there is an approved

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terms of reference for conducting

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an initiative audit of Kirovles, which

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contains the following points concerning the need for

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conducting a comparative analysis

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of the enterprise's activities for the first

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half of the year, although the second quarter is indicated

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based on the submitted preliminary accounting data for

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the closing of 2009 and 2008; an analysis

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of the enterprise's performance ...

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of state powers; an analysis of ...

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of the enterprise's policy; followed by an analysis

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of concluded contracts and the effectiveness

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of their impact on financial activities

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of the enterprise; analysis ... under point five

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of the order; analysis of the registration of rights to property

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of the state enterprise

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registration ... continuation

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of this contract

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No. 9 dated July 14, 2009

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accordingly, yes

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in general ... what

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the customer ...

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of the enterprise in accordance with the terms of reference

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assignment

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... by the customer; the result of carrying out

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the time for performance of the work was set

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until the 23rd of ... 2009, and in clause four

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of this agreement, the cost of the services is stated

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and the payment procedure, namely, it

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amounts to 75,000 rubles (about 75,000 Russian rubles); the customer makes

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payment to the contractor within ... after signing

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the acceptance certificate ... these were submitted

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accordingly, on the contractor's side

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they were signed by the director of the center

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for management consulting ...

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on the customer's side

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by the director of the ... region

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and what exactly are they supposed to confirm?

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the document does not state that; in our view

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it confirms that the conclusion of the contract

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with the contractor was directly ...

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by the Department of State

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Property, since the defense

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during the audit review stated that

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that this was concluded without proper grounds

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in violation of lawful procedures, therefore we

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will assess this fact, and it

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must be attached in order to

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directly avoid stating that

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procedure

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please, while Davydov's defense counsel

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reviews it, I will say that I am also familiar with it

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I object. I would even like to say that

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it should probably be phrased that you and I

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Your Honor, object, because I expect

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that you will support me. After all, here we

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questioned the auditor's representative, and he

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here in sworn testimony before the court record

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stated—she stated—that the terms of reference

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had been changed; that was said, wasn't it?

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that a new terms of reference

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had been formulated orally. That was said, wasn't it?

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There is no document anywhere concerning

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the new terms of reference, so, well,

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what is there to admit into evidence? That is, this is simply

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some unclear piece of paper that has no

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terms of reference, so there is nothing to admit

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into evidence. Let us firmly

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say no to the prosecution's

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representative

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I object to the admission of this

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document. First, I draw your

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attention to the fact that these

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documents concern matters that

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do not fall within the subject of proof in

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this criminal case. We fully

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understand that the subject of proof includes

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circumstances indicating whether

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a crime was committed, the time, place,

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method of committing the crime, and the circum

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... of the objective and subjective aspects of the offense

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of the crime. Further, I would like to draw

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attention to the fact that, when speaking

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about the need to admit these

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documents into the case file, the prosecution

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does not say from what source they

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were obtained. In particular, it seems to me

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that if a party is presenting merely copies

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and, moreover, the copies are certified with the seal

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of the Kirov Region Prosecutor's Office, then

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I would like to see the document on the basis of

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which, exactly, this was done

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that is, the request: by whom, when, under whose signature, and to

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which institution it was addressed

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and whether it was properly issued to obtain

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the relevant certified copies of

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documents. If an organization

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issues copies of requested documents, it

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certifies their authenticity with its own seal and

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the signature of the head of the organization

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Here we see that the copies are certified

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with the prosecutor's office seal and bear the signature

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of an unidentified official, since

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there is no printed clarification of the signature. I believe

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that in this case, the objection concerns

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the procedural formalization of these

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documents, which rules out the possibility

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of using them as evidence

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of anything in this criminal case. I

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would like to draw the court’s attention to the fact that

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the Criminal Procedure Code contains

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different requirements with respect to

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the prosecution and the defense as to how and in what manner

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evidence must be submitted

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and, accordingly, how it

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must be documented.

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I remind the prosecution that

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the legislature is stricter with them, and

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accordingly, if they want

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to use something as evidence,

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they must confirm the source

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of origin and, accordingly,

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confirm that the document is

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at least a genuine copy.

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Here, we have grounds

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to believe that the prosecution has not

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provided any data as to when, from where,

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these documents were requested, by whom, when

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they were submitted, and why they do not contain

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certification,

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namely the seal and signature of the

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official who issued them. I

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believe that this cannot be used

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at all as evidence of anything.

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Further, frankly, I do not understand

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the motivation behind this motion; I do not understand

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what the prosecution intends to prove

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by submitting these materials and

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what exactly they need them for.

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They said that supposedly the defense

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said something there, asked questions

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to auditor Zagoskina. Yes, I remember perfectly well

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that Zagoskina confirmed that she

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worked, first of all, under different

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technical specifications, which had been changed on

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an oral instruction from

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the manager. In this connection, I also want

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to note that the prosecution refers to the fact

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that these papers were allegedly submitted by the

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regional department. Again, we do not

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see any data

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confirming this.

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And as for, again, the substantive

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content of these papers, I also do not see

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any grounds to pay attention to them or

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to treat them as evidence. And

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since, again, we will assess the testimony

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of Zagoskina indeed

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from the standpoint of reliability, but also from

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the standpoint of admissibility, and we will

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speak about whether what was said

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proves anything or not, the fact that

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the defense asked a question does not mean that now

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the prosecution can attempt to verify

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witness Zagoskina’s testimony in this

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respect. Well, in fact, nothing prevents them from

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calling Zagoskina again and asking her

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an additional question, so we

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naturally object to the inclusion

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of these materials.

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Motion.

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As for the documents, to clarify further, they

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came directly from the Ministry

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of State Property,

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which in principle has the right to carry out this

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and to submit evidence in the proceedings. As for

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the significance and motivation for submitting

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these materials in the criminal case, to clarify,

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it may not be entirely clear, but its significance lies

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in the fact that when this

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agreement was concluded, a sham procedure was used, that

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this was done for the purpose of

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breaking the contractual relationship with the company,

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and this was done by prior collusion

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directly with her. Therefore, in this

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case, we insist

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that it is necessary

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for the purposes of the criminal case itself

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in order to compare the cost of the services

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and subsequently reach a conclusion.

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The defense side will present its conclusions on the entire matter.

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Understood.

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Understood.

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The contract, the law, and the applicable legislation

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to which this can be tied

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must be considered.

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If I may, in connection with what you

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have said, Cheremis, I have an additional point.

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The prosecutor’s office is now asserting that

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as to the source of origin—yes, regarding the source—

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these copies were made from

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the original documents in the

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department

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of property. What interests me is who, when, under

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what circumstances, and on what basis

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made these copies. Why are these copies certified

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not with the seal of the property department but

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with the seal

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of the prosecutor’s office? In that case, let us

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look at the original documents. This is

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exclusively a procedural

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issue. Yes, if someone verified

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the conformity of the original and the copy, then we

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are speaking exclusively about procedural

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aspects. I will not even now

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touch on the relevance of these

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documents. The Criminal Procedure

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Code sets out the procedure for collecting and recording

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evidence; it speaks about the

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requirements that the legislature

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imposes specifically on the

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prosecution. If even a lawyer

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is under an obligation, if we

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attach some document and ask that it

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be examined as evidence,

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to provide the court with the lawyer’s request, that is,

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when it was sent and to whom it was addressed, then

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I find it very strange that the prosecutor’s office does not

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know these things, or is deliberately

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hiding something from us. I believe, I...

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I insist that in the form in which we have these

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papers, I cannot even say that

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this is a document.

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And to add them to the case file, let alone

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use them as evidence,

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or examine them as evidence,

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is impermissible. Here, the procedural

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procedure for collecting and recording

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evidence has been violated. Your Honor, these are not

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documents.

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The documents for

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that

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there are

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are

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also other documents, namely a request

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from the regional test bureau

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regarding Navalny, Anatolyevich (patronymic-based formal naming), in

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accordance with which he

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on December 30, 2014, was convicted under

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the Moscow District Court of the city of Moscow under

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Articles 159.4 part 4 and 159.4 part

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two, and 174.1 part two, paragraph a,

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and 169 part two of the Criminal

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Code of the Russian Federation, and was sentenced

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to imprisonment conditionally for a term of 3 years and 6 months, with

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a probationary period of 5 years. It also states

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that in 2015... According

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to this same request, there is also a decision on

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review dated 2015, concerning

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administrative liability, and also

55:08

a criminal record inquiry from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the relevant MVD information center

55:13

of Russia regarding officer Petr Revich, according to

55:15

which he has no criminal record. In addition,

55:19

we ask that the court admit and examine

55:22

this request and response from the district court, with

55:28

the attached signed judgment of October 30,

55:31

2014,

55:33

certified by the court,

55:38

as well as the reasoned ruling of the judicial

55:40

panel for civil cases of the Moscow

55:42

City Court dated January 17, 2015,

55:46

and also the documents, bound and formatted on

55:55

submission.

55:59

Your Honor, if I may, I would like to ask what

56:02

the prosecution—what does this

56:09

[music]

56:11

prove? I believe that the fact that I am constantly being judged by Russian courts

56:14

by Russian courts

56:15

reflects positively on me.

56:16

As for the criminal conviction,

56:19

and as for all these administrative

56:25

matters, please note:

56:27

a month ago, the court notified us that on all

56:29

these administrative detentions and

56:31

arrests, a decision will be issued tomorrow at

56:34

12 noon. Therefore, I propose

56:38

waiting until tomorrow and then admitting

56:41

those decisions as well, along with the judgment of the European

56:45

Court on my seven applications.

56:55

Thank you.

57:00

I think we probably should not

57:02

admit these documents, because soon

57:05

they will already be outdated, as Alexei

57:07

Anatolyevich said: tomorrow there will be

57:09

a decision in the administrative

57:12

cases; as for the criminal case,

57:15

it has also been communicated, and I

57:18

think that fairly soon this too

57:22

—the European Court has sent questions

57:25

to the government, the communication stage is over, we

57:28

have replied, the government has replied,

57:30

so accordingly, a decision of the European

57:34

Court is pending. They have no fixed deadlines, but this case

57:37

was considered fairly quickly

57:40

by the European

57:41

Court; communication was completed a year ago, so I think

57:43

it will be soon.

57:48

Moreover,

57:55

the circumstances of that case have no

57:58

relation whatsoever to what we are considering here,

58:01

namely the events of the alleged crime

58:05

of 2009.

58:09

Your Honor, there will be yet another ground

58:11

for overturning the judgment if you

58:13

refer to another case where I am absolutely

58:17

sure there will also be a reversal.

58:25

The court does not even wish to familiarize itself with the documents.

58:28

We fully support the position

58:29

of Navalny's defense counsel, Mikhailova, and consider it

58:32

more than well-founded. Again, you understand

58:34

that an unclear situation is developing here.

58:36

Very well, let us assume that now you

58:39

admit these documents that

58:41

the prosecutor has submitted. By the way, I would draw

58:43

attention to the fact that in this instance

58:45

Prosecutor Bogdanov seems to have some kind of

58:46

selective approach here:

58:48

they provide you both the request and

58:50

the documents in bound and numbered form,

58:52

which, generally speaking, could not be said of

58:54

the previous

58:55

motion. So, as things stand now in this case,

58:58

a somewhat

59:00

unclear and conflicting situation may arise. It is entirely

59:03

possible that you will grant

59:04

the prosecution's motion. It is entirely possible

59:06

that you will admit the court materials,

59:10

the judgments, and the appellate ruling in

59:11

relation to the Navalnys, into the case file.

59:13

It is quite likely that you will refer to these

59:16

documents when speaking about Navalny's character,

59:20

when discussing the type and extent of punishment, and so

59:22

on. But do you understand the problem? You

59:25

will deliver a judgment.

59:27

Possibly that judgment will even enter into legal force,

59:30

and after that a decision will be issued in

59:33

the case I mentioned; accordingly, that

59:37

will become grounds for overturning the judgment. And

59:39

you are already incorporating that judgment into

59:42

your own judgment and taking it into account

59:45

when speaking about the type and extent of punishment

59:47

that you will impose on Navalny. I

59:49

believe there is a legal conflict here,

59:55

a point of collision.

59:58

Accordingly, the decision should be made taking into account

1:00:00

what we have said, and in addition,

1:00:02

indeed,

1:00:03

it is unclear to me what relevance this has.

1:00:07

procedural significance. Yes, well,

1:00:10

these documents are currently before us

1:00:12

the case is being considered in connection with the reversal

1:00:15

of the previously issued 2013 verdict

1:00:17

accordingly, we are proceeding on the basis of

1:00:20

the circumstances

1:00:25

the grounds for this

1:00:27

verdict and the materials concerning Navalny

1:00:29

to be used in issuing a new

1:00:32

judicial decision in the case

1:00:45

[music]

1:00:55

firstly

1:01:16

well, here there is not even a concurrence

1:01:18

of crimes or a combination of sentences

1:01:20

here there is no

1:01:25

simple

1:01:35

court, the documents may have

1:01:47

significance in characterizing the person, point

1:01:51

four

1:01:52

part

1:01:55

four

1:01:58

article

1:02:00

and

1:02:25

our

1:02:27

in this case

1:02:37

there are also explanations which

1:02:43

were given

1:02:49

possibly

1:02:53

were called

1:02:55

which

1:03:13

the testimony of defendants is classified as

1:03:17

a category of evidence that

1:03:19

is presented by the party

1:03:25

for the defendant, that is, by the defense

1:03:28

accordingly, testimony given by

1:03:30

the defendant is evidence for the

1:03:32

defense; the defense will determine

1:03:34

the order in which evidence is presented and

1:03:37

accordingly will determine the order

1:03:39

of the subsequent questioning of the defendants, including Ofitserov

1:03:41

and Navalny on its side

1:03:43

[music]

1:03:49

then it is proposed to give the floor to

1:03:54

the defense to complete the presentation

1:04:04

of evidence

1:04:06

I propose that you

1:04:08

take turns proposing

1:04:25

motions

1:04:55

as

1:05:25

we intended

1:05:27

before we move on to the procedure

1:05:28

for presenting evidence, we have matters

1:05:31

that require procedural

1:05:32

resolution

1:05:38

indeed

1:05:43

a motion regarding

1:05:46

exclusion under Article 75

1:05:49

of the Criminal Procedure Code

1:05:50

evidence obtained in violation of the requirements

1:05:53

of procedural law is inadmissible and has no

1:05:56

legal force; it may not be used

1:05:58

to prove any of the circumstances

1:06:00

provided for in Article 73 of the Criminal

1:06:01

Procedure Code. Part 3 of Article

1:06:04

7 of the Code provides that violations of the provisions

1:06:07

of this Code by a court, prosecutor,

1:06:09

investigator, bodies of inquiry, or

1:06:11

an inquiry officer in the course of criminal

1:06:12

proceedings entail recognition

1:06:15

as inadmissible of evidence obtained in this way

1:06:19

during the judicial

1:06:21

proceedings

1:06:25

In 2016, the prosecution examined

1:06:27

the following materials of the criminal case

1:06:29

the order on the provision of

1:06:31

the results of operational-search activities to the investigator, Volume 12, case file

1:06:35

133–134; the order on declassification of

1:06:37

information constituting a state

1:06:39

secret, Volume 12, case file

1:06:42

135–136; the ruling of the Kirov

1:06:44

Regional Court dated August 3, 2009, on

1:06:47

granting permission to conduct

1:06:48

telephone interception

1:06:51

Volume 12, file 137; the inspection and

1:06:54

listening record of audio recordings of conversations

1:06:56

of Navalny and Ofitserov, Volume 12, file 168

1:07:01

–226; the record of inspection of items dated

1:07:05

October 17, 2012, Volume 12, files 207–209

1:07:09

the forensic audio examination report

1:07:11

Volume 13, files 102 to

1:07:14

158; the order dated November 28, 2012

1:07:19

appointing a comprehensive psychological

1:07:21

forensic examination, Volume 13, file

1:07:25

195–201

1:07:26

and the report of the comprehensive psychological

1:07:28

and linguistic forensic examination, Volume

1:07:30

13, files 214

1:07:34

–260. We believe that all of the above-listed

1:07:37

materials are inadmissible

1:07:39

evidence obtained in violation

1:07:41

of the requirements of criminal procedure

1:07:43

law and cannot be

1:07:44

used by the court in rendering

1:07:47

a verdict for the following

1:07:48

reasons. Thus, on August 3, 2009, the presiding judge of the

1:07:52

Kirov Regional

1:07:54

Court issued an unlawful, unfounded

1:07:57

and unreasoned ruling granting

1:07:58

permission to conduct interception of

1:08:01

telephone conversations conducted by

1:08:03

Navalny and Ofitserov, Volume 12, file 137. As

1:08:06

follows from the text of the ruling,

1:08:08

the Kirov Regional Court

1:08:10

considered a certain application

1:08:12

by the head of the FSB of Russia in Kirov

1:08:15

Region concerning the interception of telephone

1:08:17

conversations conducted by Navalny and

1:08:20

Ofitserov. At the same time, the court

1:08:22

established that the FSB Directorate of Russia

1:08:24

for Kirov Region possessed materials

1:08:27

from an operational inquiry concerning

1:08:29

the head of the project for the regional targeted

1:08:31

program for the development of the timber industry

1:08:34

complex of Kirov Region for 2009–2015,

1:08:38

Roman Borisovich Shipov, who

1:08:42

was extorting money from Burdin, director of NIPI Lesprom, Moscow,

1:08:47

in the amount of

1:08:50

approximately 1.5 million rubles (about US$50,000 at the time) for

1:08:54

approval of the plan developed by the institute

1:08:56

payment under the contract. In connection with this fact, on June 23

1:09:00

2009, the Investigative Directorate of the FSB (Federal Security Service)

1:09:03

of Russia initiated, with respect to Shipov,

1:09:05

criminal case No.

1:09:08

32322 on suspicion of an offense

1:09:10

under Part 3 of Article 30

1:09:13

and Part 4 of Article 159 of the Criminal Code

1:09:16

of the Russian Federation. However, having established

1:09:19

the fact of the initiation

1:09:24

of the criminal case, whether it was lawfully

1:09:27

initiated, and whether the rules of jurisdiction were observed

1:09:29

when

1:09:31

the criminal case was opened, and whether the application for

1:09:34

authorization to intercept telephone

1:09:35

conversations was submitted by an authorized person. Whether there was

1:09:38

an investigator's motion regarding

1:09:40

the need to conduct interception of

1:09:42

the telephone conversations of Navalny

1:09:45

and Ofitserov. In particular, in its ruling the court

1:09:47

gave no assessment whatsoever to the following

1:09:50

circumstances concerning the lawfulness of the conduct of the

1:09:52

investigation into the offense

1:09:53

provided for in Part 4

1:09:56

of the Criminal Code by the Federal

1:09:59

Security Service rather than by the

1:10:01

internal affairs bodies, as provided for by Article

1:10:03

151 of the Criminal Procedure

1:10:07

Code; the filing of the motion for

1:10:09

interception of telephone conversations.

1:10:11

of Navalny and Ofitserov by an improper person

1:10:14

— the head of the FSB of Russia for Kirov

1:10:16

Region. Under Articles 38

1:10:19

and 186, after a criminal case has been initiated and

1:10:22

accepted for proceedings, it is precisely

1:10:24

the investigator, and no other person, who is authorized

1:10:27

to independently direct the course of the

1:10:29

investigation and decide on the

1:10:31

conduct of investigative actions; if

1:10:33

he considers it necessary to carry out

1:10:34

interception of telephone conversations.

1:10:36

he applies to the court with a motion for authorization

1:10:39

for such

1:10:40

interception. In this case, however,

1:10:42

the initiator of the interception of

1:10:44

the telephone conversations of Navalny

1:10:46

and Ofitserov was not the investigator

1:10:49

in charge of

1:10:50

the criminal case against a certain

1:10:53

Shipov, but the head of the FSB Directorate of Russia for

1:10:56

Kirov

1:10:57

Region. Thus, in authorizing

1:10:59

interception of telephone conversations.

1:11:01

of Navalny and Ofitserov, the court completely

1:11:04

failed to assess the lawfulness

1:11:06

of the criminal proceedings within which

1:11:08

the head of the FSB for Kirov

1:11:11

Region submitted the request for

1:11:13

interception of telephone conversations.

1:11:14

of Navalny and Ofitserov. Moreover, the court did not

1:11:18

conduct a proper review of

1:11:19

whether the person initiating

1:11:23

the obtaining of judicial

1:11:24

authorization had the necessary powers.

1:11:28

Furthermore, having noted in its ruling

1:11:31

the fact that a criminal case had been initiated,

1:11:34

the court ignored the provisions of

1:11:37

criminal procedure

1:11:38

legislation governing the procedure for

1:11:40

obtaining judicial authorization for

1:11:42

interception of telephone conversations.

1:11:45

In granting the application of the head

1:11:47

of the FSB of Russia for Kirov Region for

1:11:49

interception of telephone conversations, the court

1:11:52

was guided

1:11:54

not by Article 186 of the Criminal Procedure

1:11:57

Code, but only by Articles 6 and 7 of the Law

1:12:01

of the Russian Federation on operational-search

1:12:03

activity

1:12:04

(operative investigative activity). Thus, the

1:12:06

fact that the order of the

1:12:08

head of the FSB of Russia for Kirov

1:12:10

Region on interception of telephone

1:12:12

conversations was issued in the course of

1:12:14

the investigation of a previously initiated

1:12:15

criminal case required a different procedure of judicial

1:12:19

review.

1:12:20

The court also completely

1:12:22

failed to examine the issues of

1:12:28

the necessity of intercepting telephone conversations

1:12:30

of Navalny and Ofitserov. As follows from the court ruling,

1:12:34

the court did not examine materials

1:12:37

demonstrating the lawfulness and

1:12:39

substantiation of the order of the head

1:12:42

of the FSB of Russia for Kirov Region

1:12:44

interception of telephone conversations.

1:12:45

involving Navalny

1:12:47

and Ofitserov, and thus completely evaded

1:12:55

Under Part 9 of Article 9 of the Federal

1:12:57

Law on Operational-Search

1:13:00

Activity, a court decision

1:13:02

must be reasoned and contain

1:13:04

reference to specific circumstances

1:13:06

confirming the need to restrict

1:13:09

citizens' constitutional rights through

1:13:11

interception of telephone conversations.

1:13:12

However, since the court was not presented with

1:13:15

and therefore did not examine

1:13:17

materials

1:13:18

showing the necessity of

1:13:20

conducting interception of telephone

1:13:22

conversations, the court was deprived of the opportunity to assess

1:13:25

the lawfulness and grounds for carrying out

1:13:29

this operational-search

1:13:31

measure. In addition, the court ruling

1:13:34

does not contain specific data

1:13:36

confirming the necessity of

1:13:37

intercepting the telephone conversations

1:13:40

of Navalny and Ofitserov. The ruling

1:13:43

merely states that, according to operational

1:13:45

information received regarding the stated facts

1:13:48

of unlawful activity — meaning, apparently,

1:13:50

that Shipov — there is information that

1:13:54

the regional governor's adviser

1:13:57

Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny and the director

1:13:59

of LLC VLK, Pyotr Yuryevich Ofitserov, and given

1:14:02

that, for the purpose of documenting and stopping

1:14:04

the said unlawful acts of Shipov

1:14:07

telephone interception is required

1:14:09

to authorize the interception of Navalny's and Ofitserov's calls

1:14:11

by the FSB Directorate for Kirov Region

1:14:13

the interception of telephone

1:14:16

conversations conducted by Navalny

1:14:18

and Ofitserov using the telephones they used

1:14:21

for a period of 180 days, while the court did not

1:14:24

take into account

1:14:33

the activities of a certain Shipov, while Navalny

1:14:36

and Ofitserov had never been participants in

1:14:38

criminal proceedings in the criminal

1:14:40

case within which the authorization was issued

1:14:42

for the interception

1:14:44

of their telephone conversations

1:14:46

thus, the judge's ruling did not

1:14:54

state what factual

1:14:57

information about Navalny's awareness

1:14:59

and Ofitserov's awareness of Shipov's activities was

1:15:02

presented to the court. Is it possible, on

1:15:04

the basis of these materials, to conclude

1:15:06

that the operational-investigative

1:15:08

measure was lawful

1:15:10

nevertheless

1:15:12

in the absence of the necessary information

1:15:15

objectively confirming the need

1:15:17

to intercept telephone

1:15:19

conversations of Navalny and Ofitserov, the court

1:15:22

authorized this operational-investigative

1:15:24

measure not only without

1:15:27

specifying the telephone numbers subject

1:15:29

to interception, but also by setting the maximum

1:15:32

permissible period for such interception

1:15:34

180

1:15:35

days. It is entirely obvious that all

1:15:38

of the above indicates

1:15:40

the unlawful nature of the ruling adopted on August 3

1:15:43

2009 by the Kirov Regional Court

1:15:46

granting authorization for

1:15:48

the interception of telephone

1:15:50

conversations of Navalny and Ofitserov. This

1:15:53

court ruling was issued not only

1:15:55

in violation of the norms of the Criminal Procedure

1:15:57

Code, but also in violation of the provisions

1:15:59

of Article 23 of the Constitution and Article 8

1:16:02

of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights

1:16:04

and Fundamental Freedoms, and therefore cannot

1:16:07

be used as

1:16:09

evidence in this criminal

1:16:11

case. We believe that all consequences, all

1:16:15

information and materials obtained, including

1:16:17

the conclusions of the comprehensive phonoscopic

1:16:20

and psychological expert examinations, which were based

1:16:23

on these audio recordings, authorization

1:16:26

for whose recording was unlawfully

1:16:28

granted by the Kirov Regional Court on August 3

1:16:30

2009, are also inadmissible and

1:16:34

cannot be used as

1:16:36

evidence in this criminal

1:16:38

case. In addition, there are other violations

1:16:42

committed by the investigation that make

1:16:44

the use in the evidentiary process

1:16:47

of the above materials examined by the

1:16:49

prosecution in court

1:16:51

hearings impossible

1:16:54

By a ruling of 201[?], to the acting head of the FSB

1:16:58

of Russia for Kirov Region, Colonel

1:17:00

Ryasov. Volume 12, case file pp. 133–134. The Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation was

1:17:05

sent rulings granting

1:17:07

authorization to conduct operational-investigative

1:17:09

for the interception of telephone conversations

1:17:10

No.

1:17:12

139.45 of August 3, 2009, as well as

1:17:16

two CDR optical discs containing audio

1:17:19

files obtained during the interception

1:17:21

of Navalny's telephone conversations

1:17:24

According to the record of inspection and

1:17:26

listening to the audio recording of conversations

1:17:28

between Navalny and Ofitserov dated August 8

1:17:31

2012, Volume 12, case file pp. 168–206,

1:17:35

investigator Platonov of the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation

1:17:38

conducted an inspection and listening

1:17:41

of audio recordings

1:17:43

obtained by officers of the FSB Directorate of Russia for

1:17:45

Kirov Region in the course of carrying out

1:17:47

operational-investigative measures

1:17:49

for the interception of telephone conversations

1:17:51

conducted on the basis

1:17:54

of a ruling of the Kirov

1:17:56

Regional Court dated August 4, 2009. In

1:18:00

the materials of this criminal case

1:18:02

there is no such ruling

1:18:04

authorizing the interception of telephone

1:18:05

conversations of Navalny and Ofitserov

1:18:08

the investigator inspected

1:18:11

and listened to audio recordings obtained

1:18:13

illegally, without judicial

1:18:16

authorization. In addition, in the record

1:18:18

of inspection and listening to the audio recording

1:18:20

of conversations between Navalny and Ofitserov

1:18:22

the description of the discs provided does not

1:18:24

match the description of the discs specified

1:18:27

in the ruling on the submission

1:18:28

of the results of operational-investigative activity dated July 19, 2012, which

1:18:33

calls into question the authenticity

1:18:34

of the discs inspected by the investigator and

1:18:37

the reliability of the information contained on them

1:18:39

moreover, the case materials contain no

1:18:42

confirmation whatsoever

1:18:44

that the audio recordings were properly stored before their

1:18:47

first inspection on August 8, which raises

1:18:54

grounds

1:18:56

for doubt in this case

1:18:58

moreover, the origin is unknown

1:19:01

of the discs referred to in the record of inspection

1:19:03

of items dated October 17, 2012. Volume

1:19:07

case file pp. 207–209. According to the record,

1:19:10

the investigator of the investigative group of the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation

1:19:13

inspected items obtained as

1:19:15

a result of the operational-investigative measure of intercepting

1:19:24

telephone conversations. Further in the

1:19:28

record it is stated that an inspection was made

1:19:30

of one white paper envelope

1:19:32

with a printed paper label and an explanatory

1:19:34

inscription reading as follows: materials

1:19:37

one optical disc, expert report

1:19:39

dated October 15, 2012, in criminal case

1:19:43

No. 20171368-1 with the results

1:19:54

however, not one but two optical discs

1:19:58

cdr However, according to the cover letter

1:20:00

regarding the forwarding of the expert opinion

1:20:02

dated October 15, 2012, in

1:20:05

this criminal case, Volume 13 of case file O

1:20:08

from the expert institution to the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee

1:20:11

expert opinions were sent together with

1:20:14

appendices and tables, as well as three

1:20:17

optical discs, packed in three

1:20:19

paper envelopes, sealed

1:20:22

and certified with the expert's signatures

1:20:26

thus, the above-mentioned materials

1:20:28

contain differing information about

1:20:30

the number of discs and their packaging, which

1:20:33

indicates improper preservation

1:20:36

and also casts doubt on the reliability

1:20:38

of the procedural actions described

1:20:40

in the record of inspection of items

1:20:42

dated October 17, 2012, which was

1:20:46

examined by the prosecution at the

1:20:48

court

1:20:49

hearing. Also,

1:20:54

not all necessary actions were taken

1:20:57

aimed at preserving the information

1:20:59

contained on the CDs in its original

1:21:02

form, excluding the possibility of making

1:21:05

any changes or deletions, considering

1:21:07

that the discs are merely storage media

1:21:09

copied from another device

1:21:11

for the information; the investigation did not establish

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the device on which the original

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original

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information is stored. The order on

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the submission of the results of operational-search

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measures, as well as in all relevant investigative actions,

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also

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contains differing descriptions of the appearance

1:21:28

and identifying features of the optical

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discs containing audio recordings of telephone

1:21:33

conversations of Navalny and Ofitserov

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Ofitserov, which indicates

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the inadmissibility of their use in the

1:21:39

process

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of proof. We particularly note that a number

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of audio recordings of telephone conversations

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presented by the investigation were made

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after the expiry of the 18-day period established

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by the Kirov Regional Court as mandatory

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and the order granting permission to

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conduct the interception of these telephone

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conversations is absent. Even at the stage of

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the preliminary investigation, the defense

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for Navalny sent a request to the

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Directorate of the Federal Security Service

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for Kirov Region with

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a request to provide a number of items of information,

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including the full set of audio

1:22:16

files of the recorded telephone conversations.

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However, to date, responses to

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this request have not been

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received by the defense. The criminal case file

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contains only the

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selective fragments presented by the investigation

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of the audio recordings of the conversations; the full

1:22:34

audio files of the recorded telephone

1:22:36

conversations are absent from the criminal case

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materials, which places the defense in an

1:22:41

unequal position in relation to the

1:22:43

prosecution and gives rise to justified

1:22:45

doubt as to the admissibility of the presented

1:22:48

fragments as evidence.

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In the criminal

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recording,

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there may be information about the complete non-involvement

1:22:59

of Navalny and Ofitserov in the incriminated act. On

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the basis of the foregoing, we ask the court

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to declare inadmissible, as obtained in violation of the requirements

1:23:09

of criminal procedure law, the previously

1:23:11

listed materials of the criminal

1:23:15

case, and

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to order

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the directorate

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that carried out the interception

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of Navalny's telephone conversations

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and Ofitserov's to state what grounds existed for

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intercepting their telephone conversations,

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what technical means

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were used, on what media

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the original recordings of the phonograms are stored,

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of the telephone conversations, what measures were

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taken in storing the phonograms,

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whether copies were made of these phonograms,

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when, by whom, and on whose instructions

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they were transcribed from

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the phonograms, whether such phonograms and other

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materials were destroyed in compliance with

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the requirements of part ___ of article ___ of the Federal

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Law on Operational-Search

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Activity, and also which judge of which court

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was notified of the destruction of the phonograms

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and materials obtained in the course of carrying out

1:24:07

operational-search measures in relation to Navalny and Ofitserov.

1:24:09

When were

1:24:11

operational records opened in relation to Navalny and Ofitserov,

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and also

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what were the dates of closure of the operational

1:24:19

records? In addition, we ask that the court request

1:24:22

from the FSB Directorate for Kirov Region the actual operational

1:24:25

record files concerning

1:24:27

Navalny and Ofitserov, as well as all

1:24:31

audio files of the recorded telephone

1:24:33

conversations obtained in the course of carrying out

1:24:35

operational-search measures in relation to Navalny and Ofitserov

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operational-search activities.

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By the defense counsel, I ask that this be admitted to the case file.

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Well, what can I add? I would just like

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to say

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that

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I can't wait any longer already.

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You see, the defendant is actively prompting me,

1:25:13

Ofitserov is prompting me. And I simply want

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to draw attention to the fact that this is standard

1:25:18

practice for the FSB (Federal Security Service) for years; this is how they

1:25:22

carry out unlawful

1:25:25

activity against me. They take

1:25:27

some criminal case that has absolutely nothing

1:25:28

to do with me, and within the framework

1:25:31

of that case they begin conducting external

1:25:33

surveillance and seizing various documents.

1:25:35

to record telephone conversations

1:25:36

electronic correspondence, as indicated here

1:25:38

the Shipov case—I saw this Shipov once

1:25:40

or maybe twice in my life; my surname

1:25:43

was never mentioned at all in his case, not once, that is,

1:25:46

meaning it has absolutely no relation to me

1:25:48

Why, within the framework of his case, were recordings of my

1:25:52

telephone conversations made

1:25:54

This is genuine unlawful operational-search activity, and it is the duty

1:25:57

of this court to assess it as operational-search activity. That is the first point.

1:26:01

Second, essentially, I just wanted once again

1:26:03

to draw attention, as I have drawn attention

1:26:06

both in this trial and in the previous one,

1:26:07

after we listened to this wiretap here

1:26:09

it proves exactly

1:26:12

the opposite; this wiretap proves exactly

1:26:15

the opposite—that there was no

1:26:17

criminal conspiracy, that I know nothing

1:26:19

about the VLK company, because I am asking

1:26:21

the officers, and that I had no conversations with

1:26:23

my, uh,

1:26:25

accomplice Opole; I did not discuss VLK over the phone, and

1:26:28

so on and so forth, and that is precisely—it is,

1:26:32

the FSB (Federal Security Service), as we have just read out in

1:26:34

the motion, somehow edited it

1:26:37

and did not provide the court with the entire

1:26:40

wiretap. But even this, uh, even this excerpted and

1:26:43

submitted portion

1:26:45

shows

1:26:47

that what is described in the

1:26:50

indictment did not happen. Therefore, of course,

1:26:53

we consider it important to know what was in the operational case file

1:26:55

and what explanation was given by the FSB of Russia

1:26:58

as to why and on what grounds

1:27:00

they wiretapped me in connection with some simply

1:27:03

criminal case that had absolutely nothing to do with me

1:27:06

and so on. I support the motion.

1:27:11

Thank you, Your Honor. Only today, with

1:27:14

surprise, did I learn that I had been wiretapped in connection with

1:27:16

someone else’s case—I do not even know who that is

1:27:23

supposed to be.

1:27:27

please, for

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streams

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on

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Look, right now

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I

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I don’t

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know, maybe

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would

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Poma for

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my conversation with you

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is being recorded

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what

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uh

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with

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on

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with

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I ask everyone

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2:14:42

please

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please

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so

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please rise

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Your

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please, everyone

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the materials that

2:15:13

were examined regarding the operational measure of monitoring

2:15:17

telephone conversations

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in relation to Oiro

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of the region, by ruling of the Regional Court

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dated August 3, 2009

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The ruling shown indicates

2:15:32

that the court had

2:15:34

sufficient grounds to grant

2:15:36

authorization for the specified

2:15:38

operational-search measure after

2:15:40

verifying the legality of the relevant

2:15:42

resolution of the Russian Interior Ministry in the Kirov Region

2:15:45

Yes, the ruling established the legality

2:15:47

of the procedure. The defense’s objections to the ruling

2:15:51

regarding the operational-search activity materials

2:15:53

the investigator’s reports and resolutions

2:15:55

on declassification of information were also prepared in

2:15:57

accordance with the requirements of Article 11

2:15:59

of the federal law

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No. 144, as well as paragraph 17 of the instruction on the procedure

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for providing the inquiry bodies, investigative bodies

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investigator, prosecutor, and court with the specified evidence and specified

2:16:12

documents

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The defense’s arguments that they were received improperly

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are refuted: all necessary mandatory

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registration numbers and dates of issuance

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certifications and signatures of authorized

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official

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persons are present. In addition, the said

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documents contain the relevant

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attachments, including the ruling

2:16:34

of the Kirov Regional Court dated August 3

2:16:36

2009 authorizing the interception of

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conversations

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using telephone communications, optical

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discs also containing recordings of conversations

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the inspection report of the audio recordings dated August 8, 2012

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which was also conducted in accordance with the requirements of the law

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in the presence of attesting witnesses during

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the inspection; upon its completion

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any remarks

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from the participating persons, who personally familiarized themselves

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The contents of the inspection of items dated October 1, 2012

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which also

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is

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admissible under the law because

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here, upon completion of the inspection

2:17:23

the participating persons, having personally reviewed

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the relevant protocols during

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the inspection of the case, noted that the following were examined

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materials from operational activities

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summoned in accordance with the procedure established by law

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comprehensive forensic examination No. 15

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dated January 2012 under No. 246/64

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was conducted on the basis of the relevant

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investigator's ruling of 2012, in

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full compliance with the requirements

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of criminal procedure law

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requirements; the qualifications

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and objectivity of the experts of the Main

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Directorate of Criminalistics of the Investigative

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Committee of Russia, who possess sufficient

2:17:56

specialized knowledge to conduct

2:17:58

the examination, are not in doubt; the examination

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the experts' rights and duties under Article 57 of the Criminal

2:18:05

Procedure Code of Russia were also explained, and they were

2:18:08

warned about liability for knowingly giving

2:18:10

a false conclusion under Article 307 of the Criminal

2:18:12

Code. In our view, the arguments of the defense also do not hold up

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nor do the defense's arguments that

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the ruling and the evidence should be deemed

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the comprehensive forensic examination of the 28th

2:18:20

of 2019, and the corresponding

2:18:22

expert opinion of January 8, 2013

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The examination was conducted on the basis of an order issued

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by the investigation in accordance with the criminal

2:18:31

procedure law; the experts were

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provided with everything necessary to carry out

2:18:34

the examination, including the materials of the criminal case

2:18:35

and the questions were properly formulated

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The experts were warned of criminal

2:18:40

liability under Article 307 of the Criminal

2:18:42

Code of Russia. Thus, when conducting

2:18:45

the said examinations, there were also used

2:18:46

materials from operational-investigative

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activities, which were properly

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legalized and which

2:18:51

the parties did not recognize as unlawful. As for

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the defense's argument about the need

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to request state information regarding

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how exactly the noted

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operational measures were carried out and with the use of

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what means, as well as the submission of

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the files, I believe there are no grounds or need for that

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First, the materials contain sufficient

2:19:13

evidence confirming the lawfulness

2:19:16

of the measures carried out

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The result, as well as the recordings, has not been challenged, and besides

2:19:25

those registration files which, for

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submission to the court, most likely contain

2:19:31

some other points that do not

2:19:33

relate to the subject matter of the judicial

2:19:37

hearing. Therefore, I believe that in

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this case

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it is necessary to examine

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the evidence

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I support the state prosecutor's position; there are no grounds for

2:19:54

granting

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the motion

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Then to the deliberation room

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until

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2:00 p.m., everyone

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By the way, maybe we'll come back after lunch then

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at 2:00 p.m. And if earlier?

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So what time did he say in the end, 2:30 or

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2:00?

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What are we doing?

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Having lunch.

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That whole hysteria yesterday was

2:22:33

completely incomprehensible, with the bailiffs running around

2:22:35

trying to catch everyone all over Moscow; it was

2:22:37

completely unnecessary. The hearing is clearly moving along

2:22:40

there are at most 2 or 3 days left. The course

2:22:43

of the trial is completely repeating the course

2:22:46

of the proceedings that we had in the Kirovles case

2:22:47

(the Kirovles case, a well-known Russian embezzlement case). Yes, everything is happening

2:22:50

in exactly the same way. That is precisely why no one

2:22:53

has the slightest doubt that in this case too

2:22:56

there will be the same guilty verdict

2:22:57

and that guilty verdict

2:22:59

we will overturn in the European Court of Human

2:23:02

Rights, proving that this trial too, well,

2:23:06

strictly speaking, has nothing to do with a fair trial

2:23:07

at all. Everything that is being done, and this

2:23:09

remarkable speed

2:23:11

of the proceedings, and the remarkable

2:23:13

things that are happening, such as the fact that

2:23:16

Ofitserov, who was yesterday

2:23:17

hospitalized, was simply thrown out of

2:23:19

the hospital—all this just shows that they are trying

2:23:24

to speed things up in order

2:23:26

simply to interfere with the course of the election

2:23:27

campaign. They need as quickly as possible

2:23:29

to issue a new guilty verdict in order

2:23:31

once again to state legally that

2:23:35

I supposedly do not have the right

2:23:36

to participate in the elections. Nevertheless,

2:23:38

despite the fact that we understand that

2:23:40

the verdict will be guilty

2:23:42

my election campaign will not

2:23:43

stop. I believe that I have every

2:23:45

moral and legal right

2:23:47

to participate in the elections, and I will

2:23:48

take part in them because I am supported

2:23:51

If there are any questions, go ahead

2:23:52

I'll answer a couple. The bailiffs who accompanied you yesterday,

2:23:55

will they be escorting you back too, or was that just a one-time action?

2:23:57

Well,

2:23:59

they had instructions to bring me here

2:24:01

although they didn't actually bring me anywhere, they just rode

2:24:04

along with me. It's unlikely the judge will instruct

2:24:06

them to take me home; most likely

2:24:08

they've already left. Will you stay in Kirov

2:24:09

or

2:24:14

are you flying out? Tomorrow, or the day after at the latest,

2:24:17

there will already be the closing arguments and the final statement

2:24:19

so everyone is interested in having all this

2:24:22

end sooner and in having some

2:24:24

clarity about the proceedings for tomorrow

2:24:27

Will it be scheduled? Yes, of course, we have no

2:24:30

desire whatsoever to drag out

2:24:33

this trial, and we have demonstrated that. Well,

2:24:35

for example, today I could easily have postponed

2:24:37

the hearing and said that I did not have

2:24:39

my lawyer Kobzev, no problem at all

2:24:41

the judge would have been obliged to adjourn, but

2:24:43

we did not do that. We want this

2:24:45

all to be over sooner. We also have no

2:24:47

the desire to spend a lot of time in

2:24:49

Kirov

2:24:53

No, let me not speak in English right now, I won't

2:24:55

be speaking because, well,

2:24:57

the Rossiya TV channel is filming, and then they

2:24:59

will show it as an example of my betrayal

2:25:02

a person speaking English

2:25:03

let me speak with you separately

2:25:05

Thank you very much, thank you

2:25:08

very much. Well, we'll see each other again after

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lunch

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