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Ruling of July 1, 2016, city of
Kirov, the Kirov District Court of the city of
Kirov, presiding judge with the participation of
the state prosecutor, head of the department
of the state prosecution department of the Kirov Region
region, Bandam, senior officer of the department for the execution of
anti-corruption measures of the Kirov Region, Chereva
representative Zolotoy
Sinichnik, lawyer Mikhail, for the officer
enik
the lawyer, materials of the criminal case
regarding
Navalny, commission of a crime
provided for by Part 3 of Article 160
of the officer
the ruling, submission of deputies of the regional duma
investigator
1334, ruling, part components
state, volume
13536, ruling of the regional court
of 2009 granting permission for
conducting operational-search activities
telephone, 137, inspection report on listening to
audio recordings of conversations
of the normal officer
966, report on the inspection of items dated the 17th
of April 2012, Volume 12, p. 279, conclusion
of the phonoscopic examination, Volume
13150, ruling of November 2012
on ordering a comprehensive psychological
and linguistic forensic examination, Volume 13
19518, conclusion of the code-logistical
expert examination by Fedey
260 state
support
the criminal case statement concerning the court's statement
is located, not subject to
decision to provide
results of July 19, 2012
124
Ida state
of 2012
12356 was issued by an authorized official
head of the usk
of the region within the scope of his committee in accordance
with August 12
1995, No. 144-FZ, On Operational-Search Activity
activity, paragraph de
instruction of operational
activity, investigator, prosecutor, in the rulings
specific Kirov measures and information are indicated
subject to classification and attachment to the criminal case
of the Kirov Regional Court dated August 3
2009, decision on telephone conversations, Volume
1237 was issued by a proper official
person, by the session of the regional court
court and may be appealed in the prescribed manner
4718, ruling of November 28, appointment
of the examination
psychological expert examination, Volume 13, pages 95 to 98, was issued
by a proper official, the senior investigator
for especially important cases of the investigative department
investigation of especially important cases
crimes against state authority
in the sphere of economics of the main dep
procedural certification and the basic
requirements of the law are contained as provided
by the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation, by the Prosecutor General, petitions were disclosed
to the population. Moreover, by virtue of Article
of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation, it is not evidence in
a criminal case, it merely confirms the grounds
for conducting operational-search measures
Let us examine the inspection report made while listening
to the audio, Volume 12, pages 168–206, inspection report of 1
October 2012, Volume 12, sheets 27–29
conclusion of the endoscopic examination
Volume
13218, conclusion of the comprehensive psychological
examination, Volume 13, case 20142, from the standpoint of
admissibility, by personal types of inspection
of the examination of the audio recording conducted on the following date, the 8th
of August 2012, in the presence of
under Article 164
6677, during the inspection and at its conclusion, remarks
from the participants were not received; personally, the contents
of the inspection report state that
inspection
form, as well as the existing
recording
disk made available to the court, containing on it
video recordings, fully confirms the information
in the report, including the secret attachment
regarding the contents of the audio, and the defense's claim that
the reliability of the content
of the information is recognized as unfounded and
was refuted during the court hearing
also the defense
its receipt due to expiration
of the regional
court, p. 4
no remarks whatsoever from the persons participating personally
by direct observation, reliably, and in accordance with
the protocol; no report was received upon entry
the defense argues that the discrepancy in the number of items
actually received by the expert institution
and the number actually indicated in the protocol, which they
consider to be independently established as
a discrepancy appearing in various different
documents, to be a technical error, since
the case materials also
directly indicate the number of discs
it has been reliably established that they contain
discs
established
salting
case materials, ruling
materials
4641
kopecks
the expert examination is based on and corresponds to
Ruling dated the 24th
of the year. Basis for qualification
Yes, the appointment of the expert examination and the experts
the experts' rights
psycholinguistic
13
14, the corresponding ruling and the examination
basis for qualification
experts from the expert center with extensive
experience
cia
premises
accepted under Article 57
signed
of the conclusion. Under the Criminal Code, this examination was carried out
see page 27 of the descriptive part of the conclusion
the terminology that was used
by the experts in the text under examination; after that
there are the experts' signatures on the psychology section
on each page of the conclusion there are
the seal of the expert institution and the experts' personal stamps
the experts have them according to their own records
these questions, and therefore it will be
put to the experts and clarified by the experts orally
it follows from the materials that the commission generally suffices
from the expert conclusion it follows that
each of the experts had either another
conducted the examination and did not assess
the results independently, which the defense finds
to be a violation of part 2 of Article 21
thus, no violations of the law
in obtaining and providing the specified
documents have been established; there are no grounds
it should be under the article
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256 3134, ruling concerning Lis Grech sine
constituting a state... volume 12 of the case file
135–136, ruling of the Kirov Regional Court
dated August 3, 2009
granting authorization to conduct
wiretapping of telephone conversations
937, record of inspection and listening to the recording
of conversations... volumes 168–206
record of inspection of documents dated October 1
201, volume 12
... conclusion ... volume 13, page 8
ruling of November 28 of that year on
the appointment of a comprehensive psychological
forensic examination, volume 13 of the case file
1958, conclusion of the comprehensive
psychological... 14 presented
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the court hearing continues
the hearing on establishing
the procedure; before I propose
to the court the order of examination
of the evidence that the defense
will present, are there any further motions requiring
procedural resolution?
A motion to exclude evidence is at issue
concerning the ruling appointing a comprehensive
psychological and legal expert examination dated the 28th
of November 2012, volume 13 of the case file
19518, and the conclusion of the comprehensive
psychological forensic examination No.
02/1 dated January 8, 2013, volume 13, page
of the case file
24260. Before I turn, Your Honor, to
the reasoning for the motion filed
I would like to note that the defense puts forward
grounds for declaring these
items of evidence inadmissible that are different
from those previously presented by attorney
Mikhailo in the general motion to
exclude
evidence related to operational-search wiretapping
of telephone conversations; here
the grounds are indeed entirely different
the issue concerns procedural
violations; at that time you had also filed
a motion regarding evidence, and I will resolve it
after the expert examination
So, the defense insists that the aforementioned
ruling and the experts' conclusion
constitute inadmissible evidence
in accordance with part ... and paragraph 3
of part 1 of Article 75 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation, are not subject
to examination at the court hearing and must
be excluded from the list of evidence
submitted by the prosecution. According to part
1 of the article of the Criminal Procedure Code, a comprehensive examination is
an examination in which the conduct of which
involves experts of different
specializations. The ruling states
a psycholinguistic examination dated November 28
2012, volume 13
19518, and the conclusion of the comprehensive psychological
and linguistic examination of the указанного
number and reference details, volume 13
214–216. In conducting the expert
examination, the admissibility of which is disputed
by the defense, two experts took part
of different specialties: a psychologist and a linguist
as provided by law
the rule that applies to
the conclusion of a comprehensive forensic
psychological examination, namely, that in the conclusion
it is mandatory to indicate which
examinations were conducted and to what extent
Each expert, what facts they established in their part
of the examination, and what conclusions the expert reached
each expert arrived at
Each expert who participated in conducting the comprehensive
forensic examination signs only that
part of the report
and bears responsibility specifically for that part
of the report. As is evident from the report
of the comprehensive psychological forensic
examination No. 02/1 dated January 8, 2013
Volume 13 of the case file
24260, the requirements are set out
of criminal procedure law, namely
the requirements set out in Part 2 of Article
201 of the Criminal Procedure Code. When preparing the report, they were not
complied with, in particular, in violation of
Part 2 of the Criminal Procedure Code, the report does not indi-
cate what examinations and in what specific volume were
conducted by the linguistics expert, and what
specific examinations, and in what volume, were
conducted by the forensic psychologist. From
the report of the panel of experts
it follows that the comprehensive psychological
and linguistic
examination was conducted by an expert
panel of the Southern Expert Center in
the composition of psychologist expert Kisko and
a linguistics expert
and this is stated on
Volume 13, page 21, where the following is stated
verbatim: "The panel conducted
an examination of the submitted materials
of the criminal case file, listened to
the audio recording, and studied specialized
literature on the psychology of communication
legal psychology, and linguistics
an audio analysis was conducted."
Article 201.1, the report does not contain
information about which specific examinations
and in what volume were carried out by the psychologist expert
and which specific examinations were carried out by the expert
linguist
Thus, the defense's argument that the report
contains an undifferentiated research section
between the psychologist and the linguist experts
in violation of the requirements of Article 20 of the Criminal Procedure Code
is confirmed by the description of the methodology
of the examination set out on page
217 of Volume 13 of the case file, verbatim quote:
"Submitted for resolution by the panel of experts was a list
of questions within the competence of the psychologist and
linguist experts." End of quote. At the same time, the
report does not say that the submitted
list of questions relates to the competence
of the psychologist and the competence of the linguist to
an equal degree. But even if
the submitted list of questions did relate
equally to the competence of both
experts, the requirements of Article 201.1 of the Criminal Procedure Code
are such that even in that case each
expert separately must indicate the list
and scope of the examinations that were
conducted specifically by him or her within this
report
Further, the description of the examination methodology
states verbatim: "Each member of the expert
panel conducted a full examination of
each question submitted for
the comprehensive examination." This also
contains... The defense draws the court's attention to
the fact that the violation of
the article lies in that each member of the expert panel
did not specify which exact examinations, in
what
scope, were conducted. The linguist should not have studied specialized
literature on the psychology of communication
or legal psychology, and did not apply
psychological analysis of the audio recordings when
conducting the examination; likewise
the psychologist expert did not study specialized
literature on linguistics and did not apply
linguistic analysis in the examination
because the use by the linguist expert
of specialized knowledge from the field of psychology
and by the psychologist expert from the field
of linguistics is impossible, since it lies
outside their
competence. In substantiating the
circumstance that both the psychologist and
the linguist did not each separately indicate
what examinations, and in what volume, they
conducted, what facts in their respective part
of the examination each expert established, and what
conclusion he reached, the panel of experts on
page 217 of Volume 13 stated
verbatim: "In accordance with
paragraph 12 of the Resolution of the Plenum
of the Supreme Court dated December 12, 2010
No. 28, On Forensic Examination in
Criminal Cases, the panel conducting the comprehensive
examination formulated general conclusions
on the questions posed."
At the same time, the Resolution of the Plenum
of the Supreme Court to which the
panel of experts refers, dated
2010, No. 28, On Forensic Examination in
Criminal Cases, and in particular paragraph 12
of that Resolution, does not отменate the requirements
of Article 201 of the Criminal Procedure Code and does not
contradict them. That Resolution states in
paragraph 12 that in necessary
cases, when the examination goes beyond
the competence of a single expert and
a panel of experts
may be appointed to conduct
a comprehensive
examination
carried out by several experts on
the basis of using different specialized
areas of knowledge. In such a case, the experts draw up
a joint report. The experts' report must
state what
examinations each expert conducted, what
facts each personally established, and what conclusion
he or she reached
as an expert
As a result of the comprehensive examination
he or she is entitled to give a single conclusion on
the issue examined by him, the expert opinion from
his own name, on the basis of the studies
conducted by him in accordance with his
specialized knowledge. He is not responsible for
the opinion in the manner established
by law.
When conducting a comprehensive expert examination, it must
contain information about which
studies were carried out by each of the experts,
what facts he established, even in the event
that the expert signs the joint
opinion. Moreover, as follows from
the legal position of the Supreme Court, only in the
case of a comprehensive expert opinion
may it fail to distinguish in
the research and factual parts when
the comprehensive examination
are necessary for conducting a comprehensive
study. But in this case, one
expert must possess specialized
knowledge both in the field of psychology and in
the field of linguistics; accordingly,
the existence of such specialized knowledge must
be documented.
Documentarily. As for the defense's arguments
that in the opinion
of the comprehensive psychological and linguistic
forensic examination it is not stated which
facts each expert established in his part of the study,
and what conclusions he reached,
as well as that each expert
who participated in conducting the examination
did not sign his part of the study, then
these arguments are confirmed by the part
of the expert opinion entitled
"Study of the materials of the criminal case,"
Volume 13, case file page 218,
221; by the part of the study of the audio recording, page
221–229 verso in the same Volume 13;
and by the study on the questions submitted for
resolution by the panel
of experts, Volume 13, case file pages 229 verso–255
verso. According to the 2001 Federal Law
On State Forensic Expert Activity
in the Russian Federation, namely
the requirements set out in Article 2
of the said Federal Law, within a panel
of experts entrusted with conducting
a forensic examination, each expert
independently and autonomously conducts
research, evaluates the results
obtained by him personally and by the other experts,
and formulates conclusions on the questions posed
within the limits of his specialized
knowledge. When conducting a panel or comprehensive expert examination,
within the limits of his specialized
knowledge, the opinion shall indicate, for each expert participating
in the examination, which
studies were carried out, to what extent by each
expert, what facts he established, and what
conclusions he reached. Each expert
participating in the conduct of a comprehensive
examination signs that part of the opinion
which contains the description of the studies carried out
and bears responsibility for it
as conducted.
Given these arguments,
the opinion was prepared in violation of the requirements
of Article 201 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation and Article 23 of Federal Law No. 73, and
of the requirements of the Supreme Court set out
in Resolution No. 28 of December 21,
Consequently, it must be recognized
as inadmissible evidence by virtue of
Part 1 and Clause 3 of Part 2
of Article 75
of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation.
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We also have other arguments in
support of this motion.
The order appointing the comprehensive
psychological and linguistic examination
states that the investigator had at his disposal
two optical discs
containing audio recordings of telephone
conversations involving Navalny and
Ofitserov as part of the investigation
of the criminal case. A comprehensive forensic
examination was conducted, as a result of which it was
established what the conversations
between Navalny and Ofitserov contained, as further stated in
the order.
The conduct of a repeat forensic psychological
and linguistic examination, Volume 13,
pages 55–96. Thus, from the order
appointing the examination it is clear that both
the subject matter and the object of the study
were two optical discs
containing audio recordings of telephone
conversations between Navalny and Ofitserov. At the same time,
as follows from the order
appointing the comprehensive forensic psychological
and linguistic examination and from the experts' opinion,
together with the investigator's order
appointing the examination,
the experts were also provided with
the following materials, among others:
a copy of a letter from the administration
of the Government of Kirov Region addressed to
OOO; a copy of the order bringing Oplev as
an accused person; a copy
of the record of the interrogation of the accused Oplev, dated
16.02.2; a copy of the record of Navalny's interrogation;
copies of the records of Ofitserov's interrogations; a copy
of the record
of interrogation; a copy of the interrogation record;
an interrogation record of Bast. Information about this
is contained in Volume 13 on case file pages
195–218, 216
verso. These materials were submitted
together with the order appointing
the examination and were reflected in the part
of the opinion entitled "Study
of the materials of the criminal case." We draw
the court's attention to the fact that
the comprehensive forensic psycholinguistic
examination, as stated in the order,
was appointed for the examination of
audio recordings containing a recording
of the telephone conversations between Navalny and
Ofitserov, without repeating the arguments about the inadmissibility
of conducting an examination on the basis of these audio
recordings, as previously set out by the defense. We
note that providing
experts with materials
from the criminal case that relate neither
to the subject matter nor to the object of the
expert examination is inadmissible
and unlawful.
from the administration of the government of Kirov Region
addressed to JSC Lekam, a copy of
the order to bring
Opalev as an accused person, a copy of the interrogation record of
Opalev, a copy of the interrogation record of
Navalny, copies of the interrogation records of
Ofitserov, a copy of the interrogation record of
Arzamasov, and a copy of the interrogation record of Rva and
Bastrygin, support the defense’s argument that
an expert may not familiarize himself with
materials from a criminal case that do not
relate to the subject of the examination.
This is confirmed by the requirements of Part
of Article 57 of the Criminal Procedure Code, which states that an expert has the right
to review only those materials
of the criminal case that relate
exclusively to the subject matter of the forensic
examination. The fact that
the experts reviewed
materials from the criminal case that do not
relate to the subject of the expert
examination—they were listed above—
means that the defense considers the conclusion set out in the expert
report to contradict its
analytical section and to amount
to a rewriting of the investigator’s question
in affirmative form. Moreover, the defense
insists that the expert’s conclusions were determined
not by the examination of the audio recording
itself, namely the voice, and the conclusions of the
phonoscopic examination of the text
of the conversations, but by information contained
in the interrogation records of the accused, Opalev,
and of witness Bastrygin. To support
its position, the defense draws the court’s attention
to
to the answer to Question No. 10, from which it is not
clear which of the experts exactly
conducted which part of this examination
and, accordingly, which of them is responsible for this
examination.
Both. Thus, the experts’ conclusion on
Question No. 10, pages
255 verso to 260 of the case file, is worded
as follows:
quote: based on the linguistic and
paralinguistic features of the conversations, which
indicate an interest and
an agreement between Navalny and Ofitserov in
obtaining benefit from the activities
of Kirovles management in favor of LLC
Vyatskaya Forest Company. In the course of the conversations
Navalny and Ofitserov indicate that they
have common goals and objectives, plan and
carry out joint actions with respect
to Kirovles, including
discussing the rebuttal of accusations by
Kirovles against VLK (Vyatskaya Forest Company)
regarding the appropriation of a significant portion of contracts
of Kirovles and the purchase of timber products, uh-huh,
at reduced prices.
End quote. Turning to the analytical section
of the forensic psychological
expert report on Question No. 10, the defense insists that in the analytical
section the experts do not cite any fragment
of a conversation between Navalny and Ofitserov
that would confirm, in particular, the conclusion
of the experts that Ofitserov and Navalny discussed
the subject of purchasing timber products
at reduced prices. Under the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation, as well as Article 25 of Federal Law No. 73-FZ of May 21,
2001, No. 73-FZ,
an expert’s report or a commission of experts’ report
must reflect an evaluation
of the research results, the reasoning for
and formulation of conclusions on the questions
posed. In violation of these requirements,
in the experts’ report on Question No.
10, the analytical section on Question
No. 10 does not set out the reasoning for the conclusion
on the question posed, whereas
the expert should have provided the factual
data of the examination.
In concluding that there was discussion of rebutting
claims regarding
the acquisition of products at reduced
prices, therefore the stated assertion
by the expert is unsubstantiated and is not supported
by the analytical section. Consequently, the expert’s
conclusion is speculative
in nature. On the basis of the foregoing, we ask
that it be declared inadmissible and subject
to exclusion from the list of evidence:
ruling
Volume 13
19958, the report of the comprehensive psychological
forensic examination dated January 8
of that year, Volume 13, case file pages 242–260, signed
by attorneys Mikhailov.
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I support it, Your Honor, and I would also like to add
in addition that all
the conversations submitted for this examination
took place only after the conclusion
of the contract. Therefore, they could in no way
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the defense, regarding the evidence, the ruling
of the comprehensive psycho-
expert examination of 2012 and the corresponding
opinion
dated January 8, 2013, we believe that
the objection is well-founded. Further,
the examination was conducted on the basis
of the investigator's order
in accordance with the Criminal Procedure
Code; all materials necessary for the examination were provided
for conducting it from the criminal case
and the questions were properly formulated
before the experts. The experts were warned in writing
about criminal liability under Article
307 of the Criminal Code of Russia
In opinion No. 00213, a list is provided
of the scientific and methodological literature used
by the experts in their study of both issues
of psychology and linguistics; at the same time
there are signatures of both experts on
every page of the opinion, certified by the seal
of the expert institution, the Center for Forensic Examinations
as well as the experts' personal seals and signatures. Also
there is
information on the experts' qualifications
As for question No. 10,
which is reflected in the experts' conclusions,
this question concerns the fact that Navalny
discusses, among other things, issues
of refuting claims on the part of Kirovles
the company, regarding a significant portion
of contracts for products with clients and
the purchase of products at reduced
prices. These data
were reviewed and are set out in the opinion; they
are contained in the file
9782, and there are corresponding
references to it in the experts' introductory and concluding parts of the opinion
In addition to the aspects mentioned above,
the company's goals indicated above were also
reflected in their conclusions on
questions No. 2 and No. 3 of opinion
No. 2/13. Taking the above into account,
I believe that there are no grounds
to find that the order appointing the
comprehensive forensic examination
or the opinion itself is inadmissible
evidence; this evidence
is relevant
and admissible. Your Honor, if I may, I have
well, I have
not
an addition. I have heard the prosecutor's position clearly
and, generally speaking, once again at
this stage of the first
court hearing, the first day of trial,
a question arises, namely:
Why is the prosecutor not addressing the defense's arguments?
When the defense spoke about the inadmissibility
of this evidence, namely
the expert opinion and the corresponding
appointment order, it did not say
that it had any complaints about the list
of methodological literature. Moreover,
the defense did not say that
the relevant list was missing. We
were talking about something entirely different. We were talking
about a violation of Part 2 of Article 201, namely
that each expert did not sign his or her own
part of the study and his or her own part of the conclusions
in violation of this provision. Moreover, I do not even
dispute the fact that on every page
of the expert opinion there are
the signatures of both experts, that is,
the experts' signatures appear
under the linguist's section and the psychologist's section
What this means is that in this opinion
both the psychologist and the linguist bear jointly
responsibility, shared responsibility, for
the linguistic and psychological parts
of the study, which they cannot do
because there is no evidence confirming
that the psychologist has linguistic training, and
vice versa. In this
way, they sign the entire opinion
whereas Part 2 of Article 201 states
that experts must
distinguish their own part of the opinion
their own part of the study and, accordingly,
this concerns the division of
responsibility, because a linguist cannot
be responsible for the psychologist's opinion
and a psychologist cannot be responsible
for the linguist's opinion. In the opinion they refer to
the Plenum of the Supreme Court (the full session of Russia's highest court)
its details are specified in the motion. But
Even the Plenum of the Supreme Court says that
a situation is possible in which one
specialist signs the entire opinion and
it is called a comprehensive examination
But that is only if they possess
specialized knowledge in several
fields; in this case, they must possess
specialized knowledge both in the field of
linguistics and in the field of psychology, one
and the other expert, so that together they can
sign this opinion, both one part and
the second, both in the analysis and in the conclusions
That is exactly what I was saying, and moreover
the prosecution also says
the expert’s qualifications, I do not qu-
the experts’ qualifications. I have no
grounds to doubt them; I merely
said that a linguist does not possess
the knowledge of a psychologist, and vice versa, and here I
believe I am right, because the data
indicating otherwise were not
attached to the expert examination. I simply very much
ask that you pay closer attention to
what we are actually saying, and object
specifically within the scope of the motions submitted, and
not invent arguments of your own and
then answer them yourselves
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of the prosecution. The ruling to which
the defense refers states that the expert has the right
to sign, and as for the fact that
it is delineated—this wording again
the problem is that it is not there
that delineation. It should be, it should be
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say, talk about the detention, several
detentions, use footage from different ones, all
the videos are in the post, and there isn’t a big
problem there. Then decide, because the conditions
of detention
Well, at least
how can there be more of it
In general, that’s how things are
it’s unclear, Moscow
a lot
work—they even wrote tables showing how many
hours
went... Before, before, we did this because
because they used to have a rule like that, not
they didn’t give the remainder because
more Moscow
uh
until then at some point they stop
Very successfully, how they
work 90 hours—that’s 200 hours of studying
materials on a paid basis. Moscow won’t
outdo English, yes, English
now one by one
case, talking with the secretariat
of the European Court for 40 minutes of delivery
some kind of, who knows what
just sat there in the library
come on, 2000
...work
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legislation for
it
for a long time—specifically the English and American
legal profession. It doesn’t rest on that. Why?
when you arrive in almost any country
some expensive district with
beautiful
houses, while about
badly, it’s necessary
I don’t know how
what I’m saying for 20
I’m saying, I put all my effort into these requests for
compulsory appearance
2,000 people are watching, looking at us right now
at our
the backs of our heads
203 may turn around... not, not very
good
No, it’s just that I have
see? Turn now
don’t turn your head, the delay is...
...YouTube. I’ll tell you now, and here
do this for the camera
there is
there, the sound is...
the sound is coming through, it is. I really don’t know. Can you hear
does You... hear
yes, uh
the sound, so from here
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right now the phone all the time... hospitals
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by itself
why is there such a delay at all?
with
so
how
Uh-huh, and now, now free...
Yes, I just really wanted to tell you, wanted to
Andrei Vasilyevich, discuss some
situations, so
if I now, I don’t know, maybe
telegraph that I got in touch directly
right now if it will be
possible. I think that you, I think that you
Yes
go ahead
say it, what about
they wrote that...
in the foreground, Princess Leia or something
like that
quite
Mm-hmm, okay, but that’s a jok...
some kind of... okay
listen, actually
sorry, how long ago was it, an hour ago?
somewhere. What do I know
about
go and what
happened
lawyer, uh
what
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Well yes, you can when he
comes back, tell...
when reading
the broadcast can’t be heard. Well, he’s just speaking quietly
he says thank you
very much, yes
uh
send it
also, as I understand it, animation work...
I see
what
of course, that too, of course
I forgive
also sends regards, writes that you
are a competent professional. Yes, there too
... no
yes
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these are discs
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about... from the first
Yes, not yet for now
Maybe—and here is minimally valuable information
something is not...
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The balloons are gone now, so you can't play anymore.
Please be seated. I ask everyone to rise.
restoration of state growth
with the participation of state...
the enforcement department...
anti-corruption legislation
materials concerning the commission of a crime
provided for in part
Okay.
officer
... the court session, the defense side...
... evidence establishing...
two psychological...
psychological expert examinations
... objected to the motion filed...
... of the criminal...
case
I am reading out the ruling dated November 28.
appointment of a forensic psychological examination
volume 13 of the case file... properly...
by an official, a senior investigator for especially...
important cases of the investigative...
for the investigation of especially important cases
... of the economic department...
responsible
... is reasoned and justified. In addition...
moreover, all 74...
... under criminal procedure legislation, and...
this is confirmed... the actions were assessed...
admissibility... conclusion of the comprehensive...
expert examination
12
1460. According to the following...
Under the Criminal Procedure Code, for an expert opinion, experts participating in...
the conduct of a comprehensive forensic examination, the experts indicate...
... each expert conducted... What factors...
each person arrived at separate parts...
the conduct of a comprehensive... includes...
a conclusion containing a description
of the examinations conducted and bears responsibility for it
based on the...
from the stated goals and tasks adopted...
expert examinations... paragraph 21 of...
No. 28 of 2010 on forensic examination in
criminal cases, each expert has the right
to sign a general conclusion... psychological...
... on the basis of the relevant...
the ruling... grounds for qualification...
tests
experts of the expert center and very...
a great deal of work... all...
specialized official knowledge in the conduct of...
by the expert
the right to ask...
conclusion
concludes
expert conclusions, and in this matter the examination...
were posed
the commission formulated generalized...
on the questions in the examination report
the expert about the assessment...
this constitutes a violation of part one and part two...
article... of the Criminal Procedure Code... experts...
audio and video recordings of behavior... under the law...
... the conclusion was set out on...
the basis
the stated signs in the ruling
...tic
examination
that comprehensive psycho...
So they took into account that according to...
You have the floor.
...
Because of the cuts, I didn't hear anything at all. Could you...
speak a bit louder?
the defense motion, which...
initially concerned Melanie...
the argument about inadmissibility concerned...
the provision of operational...
activities, including that we...
spoke about the need to request
information and...
from the Pervo... region, since the data on...
... there was no need to request it, because...
the materials of the criminal case contain
sufficient data that affected
those circumstances which are already...
being proven, so we should not request...
there is no need. Moreover, there is material...
... an expert examination which...
that is, based on the results of the examination
of the audio recordings of the conversations
the officer concluded that
that
the representative, I support...
the position, and this can probably be done in the courtroom
of course, allow it
Yes, I'm already worried, Your Honor, we see so little of you...
today
day
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So, it turns out...
Having heard this, deny the motion, since what was requested...
...
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very timely...
the issue is being raised in a timely manner, but if
we would have considered everything, why raise it?
How could we have considered everything? Why...
raise it then? Have we finished
considering it? And what is the court guided by
when it raises the issue of a preventive measure?
May I ask? It has the right
to raise it, yes, but the decision
must be reasoned, and on what basis does the court...
reach that conclusion, considering that
during the court procedure, at two court hearings...
the issue of the preventive measure...
decision, decision
preventive measure
Registered in which city? All right, now...
we will
discuss yours... yes, yes, that's all correct
the court has received documents in response to his
request
of course
One moment, one moment, yes.
Here.
The request—I don't think there's any point in sending it a second time.
For the defense to review it? Uh-huh, yes.
A response from a limited liability company.
investment and construction
an investment and construction company
No, you don't know? No, none at all. What connection does it have...
does it have to the construction company?
As I understand it, it's a trademark.
Trademark.
reports the check-in date
Good Lord, the 3rd...
of the year. Thank you for...
letting me know. Pyotr didn't...
inform...
I apologize—through February 2 of this year.
inclusive. The gentleman's check-in date
officer
to the hotel was on the 31st of the year; room number was somehow...
of the year
to respond to your request simply in good faith. Well...
I don't know—your supervisor is writing to you directly.
The request was made, and a response was sent.
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The request was sent. I want to take a look, in principle, at the response.
the response, basically
Right now. Listen, this has turned into such a mess.
Correspondence with the hotel—I'm asking the court to inform them.
that I waited 40 minutes for my syrniki (Russian cottage cheese pancakes) today.
ago
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I think you can handle it yourselves.
Please, don't rush.
Turn it off. You told me that...
they responded.
...
I don't know, after all.
Probably...
Your Honor, I still haven't really
understood what's happening here. You're putting up for discussion
some question about whether
something should be...
guided by, in connection with the fact that
that today's hearing...
whether or not there is a need to impose
a preventive measure in the form of a recognizance not to leave and
proper conduct.
What exactly will
be discussed, and what will the result of that discussion be?
Do you have an option, Your Honor? It seems to me
there is no
need for this. Let's first give the floor
to speak.
So that no one repeats themselves.
Agreed, but could the prosecution please speak
more clearly, more understandably, and louder, because I will be
taking notes, and then let the prosecution
say right away what it means by
"proper conduct," so that I understand
what's going on, if they support it.
Please. Maybe we should clarify
what period is actually being discussed
and your...
opinion—my
opinion? Or the court's initiative?
I can't decide this issue in advance.
The prosecutor is hinting to you that since it was your
initiative, you should make the decision, and he doesn't
want to state his position. Yes, we are not yet
ready to speak. Let's...
Let the defense do the prosecutor's work for him.
for the prosecutor. May I, Your Honor? Please.
Not to state... what are you going to... well...
[The prosecution] declined to discuss this issue, that's all.
Then shall we remove it from
the agenda? The proposal is to continue the court hearing
without that. By the way, yes, we do have
such a proposal. We still have
motions that can all be resolved
right here in the courtroom. Maybe we can deal with them now
and then tomorrow we really won't need
to place anyone under a recognizance; we
might be able to finish everything
very quickly.
Maybe the prosecutor needs time to prepare
the position regarding the return trip...
and accordingly, we have neither
train nor plane tickets back.
No, what is necessary here is to...
...
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I'm simply saying: let's consider the issue.
...
a phone...
Actually, we need 10
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minutes to discuss the issues.
Costs under the...
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verdict. All right, one second.
propo...
Come on.
How would I know? I myself don't know what happened. Well,
that is, I can't comment on
what happened, because I don't understand
what happened, and for some reason the judge raised
the issue of a preventive measure, and the prosecutors
turned out not to be aware, and therefore
they ran off to confer. He called—it's not very
clear.
Preventive measure
because they appeared at
the previous two hearings, and before this he
...
Usually this is done by the prosecution, that is,
the prosecutors apparently—they...
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themselves—they didn't understand what
their
position was. So there you have it.
Uh...
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...
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Which one? For what period?
They called them.
They responded to the request.
They are ready to raise it.
such conc...
for the third, fourth, fifth, and there the sixth, seventh
eighth, ninth, tenth, another one—what
do everything starting Monday
I, uh...
good intersection
for the homework
maybe after the negotiations
replace everything
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not
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Al, hi
I don't know, m...
me
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go
what
how
yes, yes
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But Sweet Kiev-style
protocol A
some kind of such ones, exactly such ones
more
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stand
scary in itself
those, I...
yes
not
look... Denka's wife
know
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request
please, since earlier the party
the prosecution repeatedly stated, yes
...tive
to bring them in connection with their appearance at the court
hearing, and without a valid reason, in
our opinion, the prosecution
supports the court's initiative and believes
it possible to impose, with respect to Navalny
and Ofitserov, a preventive measure in the form of a written undertaking
not to leave and to maintain proper conduct, and the place
of execution of this preventive measure
the duration of its effect and other restrictions
we leave for the court's statement
the court still wishes to express
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just a moment
now, please, Your Honor, I ask
to postpone
consideration of this issue and before that
to make
requests, accordingly, to send requests to
the airline Pobeda and the airline RusLine
regarding whether return
tickets were purchased for citizen Navalny and Ofitserov on
the Kirov–Moscow route, and if so, for what dates
for the period from
January 30 to February 1, 2017
and accordingly the same request to
Russian Railways, whether Ofitserov, Navalny, or
other persons purchased, in the names of Ofitserov and Navalny,
railway tickets on the Kirov
to Moscow route starting from February 1, 2017
also... RZD and Aero... RZD and
the airlines. Yes, the airlines all—No, I
already said, it's RusLine that flies, not Pobeda, no...
Ah, and... yes, can you also provide the addresses
name them? Well, if you give me time
then of course I will. So once again, Rus... I
looked
...avia, right
next I
request
request from the Department of Medical Statistics
Information and Organizational-Methodological
Work of the Archive of the Emergency Medical
Medical
Care Station at the address: Moscow, ulitsa (street)
Alexei Sviridov Street, building
4A
information
confirming the call-out and arrival
of the ambulance
to the patient, Pyotr Yuryevich Ofitserov
on January 27, 2017
the call was made in the period from 10
to
10:30 at the address
city of
Moscow, Pervomaysky
district, village of
Zhukovka, building
75A; the ambulance call was made
from
telephone number plu
+7 905
712
48
04. This is direct evidence of a valid
reason for the failure to appear
of Ofitserov at the court
hearing. I immediately
drew the court's attention to the fact that Ofitserov
was feeling unwell due to
his existing medical conditions. I personally
informed the court
by notice on January 26, 2017, and at
the request of your assistant, your assistant, I
duplicated this notice on the 27th
of January 2017 by sending it by fax to
the Leninsky District of the city of Kirov
accordingly, I ask that this information be requested
because it is necessary for the defense
in order to
substantiate its objections
regarding the application to Ofitserov, or indeed any
preventive measure whatsoever. Now I will
look up the airline addresses; I am already
looking them up and will
dictate them to you. As for
the airline Rus...
so, the contact...
The phone number—well, as for the phone number, you can send a request regarding it.
You can send it by phone. And by phone—
I know, just a moment.
Oh, excellent, Your Honor, there is a phone number here.
For the duty representative in the city of
Kirov: +
7 905 8
71
7042. So.
The second one is as follows.
The company, that is.
Phone: +7 495
— 7 8
7 8 6 38.
Fax: +7
495 786—sorry—7
87 86.
14. So, the central office is located at
the address:
4101, Saratov
Zhukovsky Street, building
25A. And Pobeda has already—
no longer—
Zhukovsky Street. So, we have now clarified that
Pobeda Airlines has, since February 1,
no longer been operating. I will tell you now.
The Russian Railways (RZD) representative office.
So, well, Google shows here
the address:
RZD representative office in Kirov, city of
Kirov.
61001, Komsomolskaya Street, building
24.
Moving on, then.
So, fax: +7
4999—this is the central off-
262
9095. The mailing address is the same as
the legal address:
107
174, Moscow
Novaya Basmannaya Street, building
2. All right, one moment.
Just a second. Well, that is essentially all the information that
I have.
And I ask Your Honor to make
the appropriate inquiries. For you, this can be done very
quickly, and to obtain responses, which,
as we can see, also happens
quite quickly, and after that
to return to discussing the issue of
the application of a preventive measure.
Accordingly,
I believe this is important information.
We will need it
when deciding the issue raised in the motion.
And—
I support the motion, I support it.
I support it.
The present matter submitted for the court’s consideration was
initiated improperly.
As for the discussion here, we would like to note
that, well, the information that is being
requested from the ambulance service does not
have any significance for the consideration of this
issue, since instead of information about
the impossibility of participating in the court
hearing by Ofitserov, this fact—these
materials will confirm facts
—
And I disagree. I will explain why. First of all,
Your Honor, from the ambulance station
we will obtain information about the reason for
the ambulance being called,
what was diagnosed in Ofitserov’s case,
and what recommendations were given to him.
For my part, I can say that I am aware
that the ambulance doctor who arrived in response
to the call for Pyotr Yuryevich diagnosed him with
the relevant illness, information about which
is already at the court’s disposal,
contained in Volume 3, and
confirmed by the medical record
of Ofitserov. Moreover, the ambulance team
recommended that Ofitserov urgently
see a specialist.
Moreover, the ambulance team
placed a call to
the hospital, of course, at his place of residence,
thus informing the doctor of
the need to admit this patient.
The court will be
provided with
the form sheet filled out by the ambulance
service; it will contain all
the relevant information, and in fact it also states,
among other things, the sequence—how should I put it—
the chronology of the course of this illness and
the circumstances that led to calling the doctors.
It contains the most detailed
information, as far as I know.
It is precisely this information that does not
confirm the reason for Ofitserov’s inability to appear
at the court
hearing. Moreover, Your Honor, I would like
to note that
on January 31, Ofitserov
— it was the first working day — was
on his way to see his
specialist doctor.
He simply was unable to get there because
he suddenly became acutely unwell, and for
that reason he was hospitalized in
the nearest hospital to the place where, essentially,
he happened to be at that moment.
And the information showing that
Ofitserov had grounds for hospitalization
is already before the court. Moreover, I can say,
Your Honor, that the ambulance was dispatched to
Ofitserov in connection with one of the illnesses
listed in this letter; in particular,
it is identified there as a concomitant
illness. It also states there that Ofitserov
was discharged in a stage of medication-induced
remission of this concomitant
illness. This means that he felt
better after Ofitserov was given a high
dose.
...tablets, and that's it.
That's all.
...from the airline. Why is this even...
This confirms the fact that neither Ofitserov nor
Navalny are planning in the near future
to leave the city of Kirov. They have no
intention of failing to appear when summoned.
They intend and wish
to participate in the court
hearing, defend their innocence
and present
evidence. Moreover, we have a hotel
booked, and this fact once again speaks
in favor of the defense's arguments, which we will later
set out. Well, in general, we can
state our position now: that we...
and proof of the seriousness of the intention
of Ofitserov and Navalny is precisely
the fact that there was no booking or purchase
of tickets in the name of Ofitserov or Navalny
by Ofitserov or Navalny themselves, or
by any other persons acting on their behalf...
Your Honor, it's just that I'm slightly
confused. Are you now going to rule on
Davydova's motion, or—that is, at least
may I explain how
you intend to resolve this motion?
On our own, we cannot obtain the documents
for certain
reasons, because the fact that
this motion had been initiated became known to us
only just now. If we had known about it
earlier, or at least in advance, we would have
done it—well, at least a week or two
earlier—because responses to attorneys' requests
take a very long time.
May I make a proposal
and speak, Your Honor?
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So, we move on to...
...already expre...
Let's begin.
The request, given that
the court record does not confirm the fact of any intention
to parti... and inclu...
...after the court hearing.
I consider this...
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that, uh...
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on...
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So, uh...
...
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Considering that, pursuant to the article... on January 26
of the seventeenth year (2017), the defense was offered...
to submit to the court... by the defense...
on January 27 of this year, and
she was aware that such a request would be sent to
the district court; accordingly, she knew
of the need for this information for the court's review
upon request.
Your Honor, but how am I supposed to provide you with
a valid excuse if Mr. Ofitserov...
Please tell me,
just a second—on January 26, when on the 27th
of January I was supposed to
be
at the ambulance service picking up the document that
...
they issue. All right, in that case, if
the ruling has been issued, and since
the prosecutors leave it to the court's discretion,
then the following necessary details—the period
for which the preventive measure is to apply, the place, and
the restrictions—since the court has already
initiated this, since the court has decided
to impose a preventive measure on Ofitserov,
then please, be so kind as to
disclose to me the details of what exactly we are
discussing regarding the preventive measure, and in which
city.
Do you have any proposals, or not?
Do you or do you not?
Then please hear me out: a preventive measure is imposed
with respect to
the accused.
When a person insists on
the imposition of a preventive measure, that person must explain
to the parties, including the defense,
so that the defense has an opportunity
to refute those arguments or at least comment
on them in some way, at least.
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A travel restriction from what address? From which city?
What exactly is being discussed, and what restrictions may
be applied to my
client? What are you asking me now—
to tell you what restrictions
I want imposed on Ofitserov? None. What
period of travel restriction do I want? None.
Do I want a travel restriction at all? No,
I do not, especially not from Kirov. Therefore, since
we are putting this question up for discussion,
and the prosecutors said that as for all
the essential points
of the measure, then please be so kind
as to explain them to the defense, to inform us
of the necessary details
concerning the imposition of this preventive measure—
a travel restriction and proper conduct—
because I cannot speak about something abstract, about
some abstract measure,
since that would prevent me from speaking properly because it
would violate my client's right
to a defense and would substantially limit me
in my ability to provide that defense and to
fully perform my function as defense counsel...
then subtract...
post...
I am asking: for what period are you proposing
to impose the preventive measure, in relation to what
place, and what restrictions do you want
to apply?
after regarding the issue raised for discussion
the issue. The prosecutors also believe this
to be the case
and if the court needs time, I am ready
to wait
You are proposing something abstract
to comment. All right, a travel restriction undertaking
a travel restriction undertaking is what you are proposing
to comment on. For what period would this measure apply?
of restraint
In the ruling, you will have to specify the period
for which the preventive measure will remain in effect. So I will hear you out
and listen to your position. But right now it was not you
who initiated discussion of this issue, and
since the prosecutor's office has refused
to discuss the question of the duration of the measure, the place where it applies, and
the restrictions under this measure, then it is you who
have initiated this discussion. I consider it
impossible at present to resolve this
issue. Well, I do not agree. I believe
that under such circumstances it is impossible to speak of
some abstract preventive measure
without it being clear for what period of time, without it being clear
for what place, or do you want me to suggest
that place to you, or the period of its
validity, if even the prosecutors are not
proposing that? But if even our
prosecutors are not proposing that, then they
simply do not want to discuss this, this issue of yours
I cannot express a view on this issue
because I do not have sufficient
information
All right
Right now it is starting to seem as though I am
speaking in different languages here
This is roughly the same as if
you had put up for discussion
the issue of detention in custody without
specifying where, why, and for what period
so to speak, yes
Well
They say there are situations when, in populated areas
there are no
detention facilities, but if you have no answer, we
that settles the matter for us. We all wanted
to let counsel Dadov speak. I am ready as well
Okay, let the defense speak. Your
Honor, first of all, this seems strange to me
this issue cannot be decided. You want
us to comment on the issue of a preventive
measure, yet it is unclear in which
city and for what period. That is the first point. I can
limit it to the city of Moscow. So we have
either one thing or another. I live in Moscow. I do not have
a place of residence here, and this is very
unclear. But, for example, the weekend
although our trial should clearly be over before the weekend
should I spend it in Moscow or
in Kirov? That is of significant
importance to me. As for my conduct, you may
take that into account, yes, allow me
Nevertheless
Your Honor, first, it is difficult for me
to comment fully because I do not
understand what exactly I am supposed to comment on. That is
the first point. Second, I
believe
that we should not be considering this at all
because everyone had valid
reasons, and each time I notified the court
that I would not come on a particular date
because the court hearing would not
take place, and each time it indeed did not
take place. Objectively, it could not have
taken place. If you make an inquiry to the
airline, you will find that there were
many times when, for example, we bought
tickets and those tickets went to waste because
the dates of the court
hearings were not on the
schedule that we
had expected. That is the second point
Third, even during the first trial we did not
have any preventive measure. The first trial
ended with a suspended
sentence. So why is a preventive measure needed now?
That is the fourth point. We came here
we came here
in order to bring this trial to
an end, and I came here through Friday
inclusive. It seems to me that, given the fact
that we have until Friday inclusive, we
will quite certainly finish everything. If it does not
finish, then on Monday, or whenever you
schedule it, I will come as well. Perhaps the court
misinterpreted this hotel reservation
as ending
on the first. It does end on the first
so as not to pay at once for
the room, so as not to pay immediately for
three or four days, since anything might
change. That is why we always make the reservation
for only one day at a time. And lastly, Your
Honor, what I want to say is this: I do not know what
decision you will make, but I want to inform
the court in advance that I will refer to the relevant
rules as we understand them
and the information being entered
right now. Why were we not allowed
to present evidence in
today's
proceeding? And I believe
that in this case there is, of course, a violation of
the norms, first and foremost of Russian
law, because in order to impose
a preventive measure, grounds are required
and those grounds are clearly
listed in the relevant article
of the Criminal Procedure Code: namely, that
the person may abscond from the inquiry
preliminary investigation, or the court
may continue engaging in criminal
activity, may threaten a witness
or other participants in the criminal
proceedings, or otherwise obstruct
the conduct of the criminal case, and so
on. Not one of these grounds has been
stated. What exactly are we supposed to object to?
It is unclear. In addition, I would like to note
that there are no grounds whatsoever for imposing a
preventive measure, since the failure to appear
at the court hearing was
for a valid reason;
the court was provided with notices and medical documents.
There are no grounds to doubt that
the defense in any way attempted
to obstruct the judicial proceedings.
There are none. And if the court has decided to impose a
preventive measure in relation to Navalny, then I
would again like to remind the court of
the Tokyo Rules, which were mentioned today
by the speaker.
They are called the United Nations Standard Minimum
Rules
for Non-custodial Measures
and
paragraph 3.11 of those Rules provides
that
defendants, when alternative preventive measures are applied to them
instead of
detention
in custody,
must have such measures applied
with respect for the right to privacy of both
the defendant himself and members of his
family. Given that Navalny lives in
Moscow and his family is in Moscow, then
if the court is going to violate the law and
decides to impose a preventive measure in the form of
a travel restriction requiring him not to leave Kirov, it should take
this fact into account and state in the ruling itself
that Navalny may meet
with his family and may
accordingly, at least on weekends,
travel. I have a motion—a
compromise solution. Let us do
this: tomorrow we will provide a document from the
hotel stating that the room, or rooms,
are booked through Friday only and
paid for, for example. That way the court will have
confirmation. But you made an inquiry and found that
everything is booked only until today. Fine, ours is
until the third, and theirs is also until
the third. All right, so as to me there is
a suspicion that because I have not paid through
Friday, I may leave.
All right, let me bring such a
document tomorrow, and let us postpone this issue until
tomorrow. The court will see that no one is going anywhere
and that we are all here.
[inaudible]
That is all, I suppose.
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We came here in order to
finish the trial as quickly as possible,
because the defense plans to take no
more than two days, even including all
questioning and, well, our
statements and all the rest, that is,
what comes next. Therefore, if we finish on Friday,
then if there is a verdict
it could be on Monday, precisely on Monday, because
both Navalny and I
have an interest in concluding the proceedings as soon as possible.
Therefore, we intend to do everything possible
to ensure that the trial ends. Moreover, I
would support Alexei's proposal
that tomorrow we can simply
bring paid invoices from the
hotel confirming payment for the rooms,
which will also be non-refundable,
so accordingly, where would we
go? Therefore, I would propose this:
postpone the matter until tomorrow; we will bring them, and you will see
that in any event we are here until Friday.
The court is not planning to work on
Saturday anyway.
I object.
For my part, I would also like to draw
attention to the fact
that the legislature, in Article
99 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation,
has clearly, plainly, and unambiguously
established that a preventive measure may be
chosen—any preventive measure, including
a travel restriction—may be
imposed exclusively where there are
grounds provided for by Article
97 of the Criminal Procedure Code. As my colleague
Mikhailova correctly noted, in Navalny's case not a single
one of the grounds for imposing a preventive
measure listed in Article
97 of the Criminal Procedure Code is present in this case. That article of the
Criminal Procedure Code
contains an exhaustive list that is not
subject to broad interpretation, of the
grounds on which any
preventive measure
may be imposed. In particular, one of the
grounds
is that
the court has sufficient reason
to believe that the accused may abscond
from the court, may continue criminal
activity, or may threaten a witness
or other participants in the proceedings, or by some other
means obstruct the conduct of the case.
As I understand it now, from the not very
clear position of the prosecution and the not very
clearly formulated request
by the court to discuss a preventive
measure,
the reason why we are now
discussing this completely vague
issue
is the fact that my client did not
appear, allegedly without valid reasons, at two
court hearings.
But I believe, Your Honor, that you have already
ruled on this matter: on January 30 you already
issued an order for
compulsory appearance, and that order
has been executed. I believe that by that
order, the issue of Ofitserov's appearance
should be considered closed. I would draw the court's special
attention to the fact that the order
the compulsory appearance order for Ofitserov dated the 30th
of January, as of today
as of today
has been served neither on me nor on my client
Ofi
to Pyotr, accordingly, this
ruling. We cannot even
appeal it. And we believe there are grounds
and reasons to appeal it. We believe
that this ruling has not entered into
legal force, because we have the right
to appeal it, and the law does not
prohibit us from doing so
doing that, which, I repeat, neither to me
nor to my principal has been issued to this day
up to the present time. Although yesterday I very much
asked the bailiffs, who
were pounding on my office door, I cannot give
me a copy, a copy of this ruling
accordingly, we have not
missed, Your Honor, we have not missed
the procedural deadlines for its
appeal. Accordingly, you have not yet received from us
any appellate complaints, but already
it is being presumed that this is a finalized
judicial act that has entered into legal force
and on the basis of this judicial act
which in fact has not entered into
legal force, in my opinion you are now
raising the issue of a preventive
measure. I believe this is impermissible
impossible and
unlawful, because if we appeal this
ruling, it is entirely possible that it will be
overturned, but in any event it has not yet
entered into legal force. And how can we
choose a preventive measure for Ofitserov now
on the basis of circumstances established by you
in a matter that has not entered into
legal force? In my view, legally
this is
impossible. This is
the first point
Second, in paragraph 1 of part 1
of the article, as grounds for
the imposition of any preventive measure
it is stated that the court must have
grounds to believe, and those grounds
must be supported by specific factual
data. These grounds must not be
abstract or illusory. So, grounds
to believe that the accused will abscond from
the court—I would
emphasize, from the court. We had a ruling
for compulsory appearance issued by you due to
Ofitserov’s failure to appear at the court hearing
there was no information that Ofitserov was hiding from
the court available to you at that time, and
I am certain that
there still is no such information. In my view,
such information would be, for example,
data from the border service, for example, or
evidence that Ofitserov purchased a ticket to leave the Russian Federation
or a ticket to the territory of the Union State
for example
Belarus, or you might at least have some
operational data, reports, or
something of that kind, or data from
recorded monitored telephone conversations
of Ofitserov showing that he was discussing with someone
that he did not intend to wait for
the court’s verdict
and, disregarding everything, buy a ticket and
leave for Honduras—or at least
for Belarus, or at least for Tambov Region
switch off his phone and stay there hoping
that no one would
find him. Such data, for example, could be
testimony from a witness who came
to court—say, for example, a bailiff as well—and
yes, and
said
that he intended to evade justice and in every possible way
obstruct it: persuade a witness
to change testimony, persuade an assistant
to burn documents, persuade experts
to come to court and repudiate the conclusions they had previously given
earlier, and so on. Such
data the court does not have. I repeat, these data
must not be abstract; they must
be
real. And in light of the fact that the court does not have such data
and the compulsory appearance order
I am now
stating my intentions, and the compulsory appearance order
will be appealed both by me and by
attorney Mikhailova, and we have the right
to appeal it, and we will do so. And if
we do not have, so to speak, an effective
prejudicial ruling or preventive measure
I am not repeating your point. I still have
a serious question now
regarding the place
of residence. I am not sure that the hotel
"Honen" in the city of Kirov can be considered
a place of residence
for Ofitserov, even a temporary place
of residence. It may be considered a temporary
place of stay for Ofitserov, or
a temporary overnight stay for Ofitserov, but
by no means a temporary place
of residence. And Article 102 states that
a written undertaking
consists of a written obligation not
to leave one’s permanent or temporary place
of residence. Ofi’s permanent place of residence
is in Moscow, at the address known to you
and Ofitserov has no temporary place of residence
including in the city of
Kirov. You cannot, by ruling, oblige
Ofitserov not to leave
the hotel. First of all, staying in a hotel
costs money; secondly
on
accommodation
I understand that you have explained this; I also
want to state my
position very clearly: there is a desire to impose a measure on me, but as it were, I
I understand that perfectly well. You have a desire
to force [someone] to write systematically
a motion: Please let me go to
my wife, and what kind of nonsense is this
a right, a constitutional right, which we
still have written into the Basic Law (the Constitution)
the right to respect for private
life. So far, no one has yet
abolished that right. Now, Ofitserov's private life
is in Moscow: Ofitserov has his family there
many children there, including
young children. Ofitserov also has work there
that requires his
attention. I believe that already
because the court, at one point,
arbitrarily changed the schedule of court
hearings, Ofitserov has already suffered
financial losses because he
could not properly and fully
carry out his
work obligations. Excuse me, and you are
now
on Ofitserov
imposing a period of additional
losses. I am sure that all these
circumstances taken together indicate
that, forgive me of course, but you are
now being guided by something else, something that
differs substantially from the interests of
justice as I
understand them. Right now, in the interests of
justice, it would be best for the defense
to continue resolving procedural
issues so that we could move on already to
the examination
of the evidence. Therefore, Your Honor,
I understand, of course, that you have already
made your decision, and that whatever we may
say to you now, nothing will change, but I ask
you nevertheless to think it over and not to impose a preventive measure on
Navalny, and still less on
Ofitserov
Your Honor, Ofitserov has young children, and
I have election campaign headquarters
and it is not yet clear—sorry, Ofitserov—which requires
more attention. And to be honest, I do have
a definite thought that this whole
suddenly imposed travel restriction
is connected with my plans, specifically
to open a campaign office in St. Petersburg on Saturday. Then give me
if you want to impose a travel restriction
for the weekends
you are referring to
Well, if that is what is intended, then let us do it this way:
on weekdays, a travel restriction in the city of
Kirov, and on weekends, permission to travel
anywhere. Is that how it will work? It will
be considered; I think the answer will be favorable. And
if there is no court hearing on a weekday,
Your Honor,
look, let us take this slowly. Yes, well
if it is imposed, and there will or will not be a hear-
partly because you did not state specifically
what you want, it is unclear to us. I
said: if, say, a weekday
comes and the prosecution asks for
a recess for, I don't know, a week or something
then what, are they supposed to sit in
Kirov on weekdays and wait until the state
prosecution deigns
uh, to proceed? Y-you should submit that to me in writing
Apply in writing, yes, and I will issue a resolution
But why should I? I very much hope that in the
absence of court
hearings, with you, my dear
friend, you
Your Honor, Your Honor, it seems to me everything is much
simpler. If we were not discussing all this
we would still have had me and
Ofitserov questioned today. We have two
or three motions left which, once you resolve them,
the presentation of evidence will begin here
for me and Ofitserov, briefly
there is not much to say. The closing
statement will be short: Long live the Soviet
court, the most humane court in the world (a well-known ironic Soviet slogan), and that is all
Therefore I would still propose, and I ask,
that you grant my motion
as a compromise: that we postpone the question of
the preventive measure until tomorrow, when we will be able
to provide you with the hotel documents, and in
any case, well, well, on Friday we will
have the closing statements
so why all this fuss
is not very clear. Then we
can even, when you
schedule the next hearing, we can
even buy tickets right away and book a hotel
pay for it and bring it in simply
as proof that we too will be here, and
then fine. Well, it is clear that if
docu- well, you say a travel restriction
and I say I will not sign it. Well, then what?
Will you keep me under house
arrest in a hotel?
Well, I am just curious. I am not exactly
trying to needle anyone, but I
am simply saying that this whole
situation, this whole legal collision, is connected with
the fact
that the court, it seems to me, incorrectly
interpreted the hotel documents
which we will bring, and the court also incorrectly
interpreted our failure to appear, which was
due to valid reasons
therefore I once again inform
... that by Fri-
this week. Although it seems to me we will manage everything
in time. Schedule a court hearing, and we
will most definitely come. We want
for all this to end more quickly, and for all
of us to go our separate ways, wherever we may have
to go after your
verdict. The motion to postpone
consideration of the issue is under discussion. Does anyone
wish to speak?
postpone the issue until tomorrow, so that we can present
the documents
the stops, taking into account that
material
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since February
there is a difference
if the question concerns
execution
Danni Pesha would like to say something
on
the court finds it necessary to deny the request
to allow
[music]
no questions
when he returns, it will be
it's unclear whether it will be ready
please
[music]
you go ahead
Raste too, filmed
well, come on
well yes, yes
Dakha, who among us wants to
leave, yes
The reports are very, very
interesting and very
seriously, right now I don't know
I don't want to
[music]
uh
What, what, what needs to be done with the car?
that he came back, I don't even know—come back, come back
Kato
right now I don't even understand at what
point it will be halfway
you'll climb up, so we can
just raise the camera, yes
look, right now we're raising the camera up to the
ceiling, then you stand here in front of the camera
you just climb out, it would be
not bad, we could do it like that
raise it—do you think it can be heard there?
ready
Yes, we need to take a screenshot, funny
it really took off, yeah
then we'll
oh
on
Let me just go over to him, and you tell me
which one—yes, it's faster this way, just tell me
tell me which one is the latest
the latest? I don't see the latest one, then later
I have it, I have it on
the page, and you?
you, you too? Ah
that's it, I said it for half an hour and
just a mountain of it
uh
look
they've already started playing the game even now
good
we begin
it works
it works
which, when
will be, and that's his
you have 340,000
views, seriously
right now, according to the statistics
when
Yes, well, I mean, there isn't
anything like that
well, yes
sh
bu
I think, please
how much then
with
Sasha was supposed to
do it, Sasha should have
cha
no, one person is not enough
every request must be looked at
it was exactly
in my opinion
for now, go somewhere
Come on, the second one already, the second
Uh-huh
turn it on
the main thing is, it's possible
Yes, so, the general one, sitting, sitting because
damn it, you never see your own anymore
in no case
more
possible
yes, let's do it in
here you go
right now and
All right, okay for you
honestly, it sounds
already
I ask everyone
[music]
on January 1, 2017, the Lensky District Court
of the city
with the participation of the state department head
of the department
of the regional prosecutor's office departments
for supervision over compliance with legislation
against corruption in culture
also
his defense attorney, lawyer Mikhailov
Ofitserov and defense attorney
having examined in court the materials of the criminal case
regarding charges of a crime under Part 33
part, against Officer Yuryevich, concerning the commission of
a crime under paragraph p of Article 33
part of the article
160; on January 25, 2017, but
the city court, in the court session of 201
would
of the court hearing of the criminal case in 2017
year, 27, 2017
the hearing, with a signed undertaking of proper conduct
the defense did not object
to the choice of the preventive measure, since the choice
of the measure
for now, the grounds
considers
...the court takes into account that Nava accepted...
the commission of an intentional serious...
the opening of the court hearing
which took place
272 On January 30, 2017, he failed to appear...
properly notified of the time of the hearing in relation...
...the court previously made a decision to hold the hearing in his...
defense counsel, his lawyer, by way of official notification to him
reading aloud
the legal basis is also...
receives... indicating that he is obstructing...
notification to him of the next...
court hearing is regarded by the court as...
a deliberate obstruction of the court hearing...
grounds for conducting the hearing...
According to
...and the court's ruling...
hearing
conducting the review
located in the city...
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...Alexei, born in 1976
born in the Kirov Region, from February 1...
from 2012 until February 10, 2017, under a written undertaking...
...an obligation not to leave without permission from his place of...
residence
Kirov, located at the address: Kirov Region
city avenue 145, building 1
to appear before the court
before the court
ruling of ... 2017, city of
Kirovsky
district
state...
region
defense counsel
lawyer, materials concerning...
part
...
official... committed
part
...on January 25
2017, which was adjourned to ... 2017, about which
the person present at the hearing had been notified in advance
hearing of the federal...
case of 201... year
...was...
the issue was raised by the defense side
...and by the prosecution
the court considers that
officers
...that took place
documented in the court...
hearing of 2017
year, appeared at the court hearing
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...
7556, March 4
25, 2017, until the 10th of ... 2017
the above temporary place of residence
...located...
you must appear, please, before the court...
Presiding Judge
present
please... this is part of the parties'...
in addition
in court... your place of stay above has been established
please refrain
leaving once again — if I am absent for more than 12
hours from the territory of the region
it will be regarded as having left
the region, whether directly or...
...or the city of Kirov — from Kirov to Malmyzh
you may travel to Malmyzh
Your Honor, I have a brief
statement and a couple of questions, if I may, in order for
you to clarify briefly
statement. Have you seen the film *Brother 2*? There was a line there...
...something like: “I respect you, but...”
“...I won't drink.” It's the same here: I respect the court very much,
but I inform the court that I will not
sign this undertaking not to leave.
That is first. Second, I simply have
a question for clarification: who is going to pay if...
I am evicted from there tomorrow and I have to...
Is the court placing on me an obligation
to start an ugly fight in the field, in...
the hotel, when security throws me out of there?
While I am being evicted, will I be fed in
the hotel? I mean, well, it is a hotel
and actually quite expensive. What
am I supposed to do in that connection? Please just explain
your decision to me then. You literally
stated at the court hearing that you have
funds available in order to
pay for the room until Friday. But on the weekend, when...
you said until December 10 — December 10...
multiply it until the 10th — sorry, yes, until the 10th
of February, February 10. Multiply that by 4,000 rubles (about US$65 at the time)
and that will be a substantial
sum, especially with lawyers as well. Yes, probably.
The defense says that for them to leave for the
weekend, no permission is required. For whom?
For the lawyers? Well then...
And I have to stay here in Kirov for the weekend?
Fine, I went to a museum — what next? Come on,
give me a guided tour of Kirov
what else then? You have left me here
invite me over for tea, I don't
know what else. How is this supposed to work in
practice? Yes, Friday — I said at the hearing
that I have money for the weekdays
but on weekends I will be staying... and
in general, let's proceed as follows...
the money has not come in, the funds have run out, there is no money
we have not finished — no, the question really is
a serious one: where are the bills supposed to be sent?
Sent where? To what address? Who
is paying them? Is the minibar allowed or not?
And breakfast? We are already getting into questions like
without a minibar it's difficult, very difficult...
It is nevertheless proposed that a copy be received
of the ruling, with a signed receipt acknowledging receipt
in the records. About...
What? About receipt of a copy of the ruling? No.
I will not sign. Your...
The ruling will be appealed; it has not entered into
legal force. So what kind of undertaking is this? This is...
not detention, which takes effect immediately
it will be appealed in accordance with the procedure established by law
SRO
d
please, please, we will receive a copy
we will receive it; at the same time, we would also like to immediately
receive the order for compulsory appearance as well, and accordingly
everything that you issued today as well, right now. Excuse me
this is not
all right, Navalny (Alexei Navalny), please as well
one more question: well, simply, if we
finish on Friday, and you
accordingly, under the protocol, go
to the deliberation room to prepare the verdict
correct? That
means that, as it turns out, you are planning for February 10
to come out
I think that in this case, until
the last
word. Who among us will give it?
submit a motion, and I will
consider it
so, that is, are you promising that you will consider it?
we are not promising that we will let you go, of course
I said I would consider it—that is all I said
then there will be... no, it’s just that last time
that is exactly how it was: we agreed on the date
and then something changed. And now I
because of the date on the sign-up list, they
were howling, although, by the way, I have
valid reasons, really. All right
I will get a copy
those... Oleg, who took it? Please tell me
please
criminal case
can I not?
well, either we sign it, or let’s
just leave it at that
I will serve the ruling
regarding me, yes? Uh-huh. And дальше what?
the date is written
the signature is written... oh
what is the ruling about?
everything that...
not
definitely move everyone in there
Let’s also take the recognizance from the prosecutor
all the rulings will be prepared
about the cooperative
the numbers have been assigned
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so that
tomorrow
internet outage, maybe the Wi-Fi is in some mode
video streaming is not possible
that’s all from us then, see you tomorrow
by 9 o’clock we
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whether or not... no one understands that
understands. I mean, it is not in effect—we did not
give it. That is, neither of you signed a paper
saying that you undertake not to
leave
tomorrow. This is
well, this is
they refused something regarding it. Well, the recognizance itself
was signed because it was half... with...
Let’s perhaps arrange some kind of approach
somehow. Well, stand however is most comfortable for you
comfortable. I
then—Pyotr, where did you go? Let me do it alone
I will start
the documents were not
signed. Well, you all witnessed this
strange spectacle, which once again proves
only one thing: that all these
restrictions and this entire process
are connected solely with the election campaign
we publicly announced the schedule for opening
campaign headquarters. On Saturday I was supposed to open
the first headquarters in St. Petersburg, and immediately
suddenly the judge
comes out with a recognizance order
carefully... lawyer Davydova simply, from
indignation, could not stay on her
feet, and right then the judge comes out with
the initiative of imposing a recognizance not to leave, which
was not even part of the first trial. It is clear
what this is for: so that I simply cannot
travel around the regions, and then there will be
a recognizance not to leave until he delivers
the verdict, and then there will be a recognizance
not to leave until there is a decision
from the appellate court, and thus
for several months I will have to
either stay at the Hilton hotel in
Kirov—which is simply ridiculous—or else
at home
but
I officially refused to sign any
travel restriction. I gave no such undertaking. I do not believe that
I should be required to remain
here in Kirov. I believe this
decision is unlawful, and I do not intend to comply with it
and I plan to be on Saturday in
the city of St. Petersburg for the opening of
my campaign headquarters
Thank you. And we all witnessed this strange
spectacle, which has proven
now we need to
Is this yours?
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