

Hello. Thank you very much for coming.
And I’m glad to see so many of you
at this press conference in our campaign headquarters.
I won’t speak for very long.
Many of you were probably already at
the opening of the volunteer headquarters, and then at
the rally. And I’m happy that I finally made it
to Chelyabinsk.
It’s very encouraging for us. At the moment,
Chelyabinsk and the Chelyabinsk headquarters are
in fourth place in terms of the number of
volunteers, meaning they are ahead of Novosibirsk
and ahead of larger cities. In
the Chelyabinsk region, we have effectively
already met our minimum target
for collecting signatures. And we have
what, given the size of the city,
is an unusually high number of volunteers in
Magnitogorsk. So we are pleased
with how things are going here. We saw
that there were a great many volunteers today
at the meeting.
And I’m glad
that I was invited today to
the rally against the mining and processing plant.
We have something to say to the people of Chelyabinsk,
including, as I said at the meeting
with the volunteers, here we can — I personally
can say with satisfaction
the phrase: “I told you so.” And here
there are probably many people here, including
media outlets that wrote that I was wrong
to go after Governor Yurevich, wrong
to investigate him.
Wrong, they said, for me to make leaflets,
special materials directed against Yurevich.
United Russia kept defending him, defending him. And
where is Governor Yurevich now?
In London.
Well, either in London or in Israel. But
now United Russia itself and the authorities themselves are telling us
what a bad governor
Yurevich was. If they had listened to us then and
taken our words seriously, and if he
had been removed from office, then probably all
the corruption cases that are now being
talked about by the Kremlin, would not have happened. So
we were right, and this also matters
to every resident.
We can see that the authorities
understand
that our campaign here is developing
quite well. That is precisely why, ahead of
my arrival here, the head of our headquarters
was arrested. About 10 or 15 hours ago.
This is Kirill Artyukov, let me introduce him to you.
He is the deputy head of the headquarters. Regardless
of the fact that Alexei Tabalov
is currently under arrest, as you
have seen, we are successfully opening our
headquarters. Our meeting
with volunteers went very well. This shows that
they will not be able to decapitate
or somehow stop
this campaign in this region or in any
other region. The campaign as a whole
cannot be stopped by taking out one,
two, three, or twenty-three people. Well,
you arrest one person, but there are still
volunteers. Most importantly, there are
voters who want change. There are
voters who expect from us
what we are doing. There are people who
understand that over 17 years this government has reached
a dead end and can no longer say anything good
for itself. And we have answers to
questions, including those that concern
the residents of the Chelyabinsk region. We are conducting
an anti-corruption investigation, including
into your situation with the
construction of roads. You can see that
I’m no admirer of Yurevich, but under
the current governor, even compared
with Yurevich, the roads have become worse. Why?
Because the authorities keep consolidating
road construction contracts into larger lots. And there are clearly
signs of corruption. And, well,
the environmental situation today is simply
obvious — this problem is obvious.
And we heard a lot about this today at
the rally. I want to reaffirm once again my
position: yes, I support
the residents who are opposed to
the construction of this
mining and processing plant. It is
a lie to say that it will bring
some money or that it will bring
some kind of prosperity to the region’s residents. And according to
the statements of even the
builders of this plant, the Russian Copper
Company, over the entire course of its
existence it will pay 80
billion rubles in taxes. Even if we believe that figure
— though it will be several times
lower —
let’s look at the figure of 10,000
people diagnosed with cancer
every year in the Chelyabinsk
region. When we see how many more
people will develop
cancer and acute
respiratory illnesses, and this is
simple arithmetic showing that
the additional spending on
healthcare will eat up all the
additional revenues that
this project might bring. Therefore, we
support the residents in their fight for
the environment. And in Chelyabinsk this issue
is extremely acute. It is very unfortunate that
today neither United Russia nor
representatives of other parties came.
So, moving on to answering
questions, once again, I am very pleased with
how things are going here. I am very pleased
with the large number of volunteers. In the
Chelyabinsk region, we are going to have a big
and interesting campaign. There are many of us.
will support us here. I am confident that here we
will be able to compete for the majority of
voters. I am ready to answer your
questions. Raise your hands,
introduce yourselves. Yes, please. Sergei
Makovich today. Alexei, please tell us,
why exactly Tabalov became
the head of the campaign headquarters. Was there no more worthy
or suitable candidate?
The decision on appointing campaign headquarters chiefs
is made by Leonid Volkov. I do not handle that
work myself. We have a competitive
process. People send in their résumés, and people
go through interviews. We do not have
a system where we appoint members of the Progress Party
or people who are somehow close to
us. We have regions where there are
nationalists and regions where there are liberals. People simply
send in their résumés. And judging by the fact that
Volkov appointed Tabalov, I
trust Volkov completely. I think that
Tabalov will be a worthy head
of the headquarters. At the very least, everything that
Tabalov’s team has organized has been entirely
satisfactory to us. Next question, please.
Svetlana Grigorieva, Full House. And who else
will be a member of your headquarters?
Well,
Well, there you go, I introduced Kirill. Our
headquarters are volunteer-based. That is exactly why I
keep saying that we are opening volunteer
headquarters. In each headquarters we have two or three
positions where people receive a salary.
Everything else is simply volunteers. At
present, in Chelyabinsk Region
there have registered
2,000 people. Roman, yes, we already have 2,000
volunteers. That means we need an enormous amount of work
to coordinate
those people
who came and said: "We want to work
for free." So for now we do not really
have any need, generally speaking, even
to spend large amounts of money on
that. Yes, please. Ah,
Hello. Your campaign... first, please
tell us where you are from.
Young Teacher, the newspaper Young Teache.
Ah, the newspaper Young... Young, just Young
Teache. Well then, Young Teacher it is.
Excellent. In your campaign
you have many points about decentralization
of practical governance. Do you believe
that in the future, the future in general will belong
to, so to speak,
anarchism to some extent, that is,
the transfer of power to lower levels,
while the federal level will be, so
to speak, well, um, an additional
element, while power itself will still
be, let us not forget, self-government?
But that is not anarchism. I
have consistently argued that
the authorities, the Moscow authorities, this
notorious Kremlin, which has taken all
the money and powers and dragged them all into
Moscow, should stop hoarding them and
send money and powers to
the regional level and the local level,
to the cities. This is in no way
any kind of anarchism. It is a
normal system that works in
developed countries. Putin spent
17 years building a different system, and it
went bankrupt. In other words, he built everything
perfectly. There is no money in Chelyabinsk Region.
All the money is taken to Moscow. That is
the plain truth. All your regions
recently had another few percentage points taken away
from the corporate profit tax. But
has it turned out well that there is no
money here for anyone, and that you are forced to beg Moscow
for your own money?
No, it turned out badly. That is why we
look at the European system of local
self-government and understand that the money
that cities earn should remain
here, for the most part. And there is
nothing anarchic about that. On the contrary,
it is an excellent system that
works. That is not an insult.
Please, Sergei Leonov. Sergei Leonov
from Proru. Earlier you were talking about a flying
helicopter, and now you are talking about roads and
so on. Will there be ACF branches in
the regions, in particular in Chelyabinsk
Region?
Chelyabinsk Region is actually an
outpost of the Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF),
because Valery Zolotukhin, who,
yes, who is even standing here, is a co-author
of most of our investigations
related to government procurement. And he, in
fact, lives in Chelyabinsk and works
from Chelyabinsk, not as some kind of,
you know, Muscovite. And so,
well, he works on the whole country. And in that
sense, one can say with complete certainty
that one of the most
qualified people who understands
government procurement lives in Chelyabinsk. It is just that we
cannot direct his energy only toward
Chelyabinsk Region, where he would expose everyone
immediately, because
the country is large, and he works on many
things, but also on
Chelyabinsk Region among others. We
will strengthen these areas of work in all
cities with populations over one million, and all the more so
here, where, as I already said,
we have more volunteers than in those cities
that have larger populations than
Chelyabinsk. So, as of today,
we have raised 40 million rubles. And that is enough for us
to run the campaign the way we
are running it, based on the strength
of volunteers. Funding is being
provided that way. How much does this cost
the premises per month? Around 60,000 rubles.
So what are our expenses in Chelyabinsk?
The premises cost 60,000 rubles a month. As
you can see, it’s decent. It’s right in the city
center, right? Well,
I swallowed wrong there.
Well, you understand that not all
landlords, when they hear “Navalny headquarters,”
are willing to cooperate or offer discounts. In any case,
we
pay for the premises, we have two
paid positions, and we have volunteers. Fortunately,
that’s a big advantage of our campaign
and no one else has anything like it. We
have a lot of people willing to work
for free. That’s why our expenses are
low, and we can run the campaign
relying only on the money
that volunteers send us. Next,
yes.
Agaryuk, Moskovsky Komsomolets (a Russian newspaper). Alexei
Anatolyevich, well, um, six people were
sentenced to fines as a result of
taking part in the protests on the 26th. Won’t it
turn out that in the end they’ll have to
pay that money out of their own
pockets? How will their situation be handled?
Second, what about the people who lose their jobs
as a result of
distributing your campaign materials? Well,
there seem to be quite a few of them,
Well, I don’t know, you would know better.
What is your position on them?
Our position is as follows. First of all, I
hope that everyone who was detained
was registered with our headquarters. We
are raising money, and of course we will pay
the fines through a general fundraising effort for everyone.
That’s the first thing. Second. You had a rally here
on the 6th, right?
Was it authorized or not?
No.
Did a lot of people come out?
A great many.
More than 3,000.
So there were a lot of people. And the authorities
were saying they would arrest everyone,
detain everyone, disperse everyone.
But in practice, what happened was that our poor
Tabalov was arrested just a few
days after the rally simply in order
to try to disrupt
my visit here. And even in Moscow,
despite all the horror stories and despite
the thousand people detained there, only
80 people were actually jailed for a few days.
The truth is that it’s impossible to
repress large numbers of people.
What they really do is grab one
person and then point to him as a warning to everyone else.
Look, we locked him up for 15 days,
to scare everyone else. Or they
make an example of someone by firing them, although in
reality there aren’t large numbers of
cases of dismissals or
persecution. On that note, I arrived
from Tyumen yesterday, where I was opening a штаб (campaign office). There
in Tyumen, there is a schoolboy who
was handing out leaflets, and the police
came to his vocational school, and apparently
raised the issue of expelling him. But that
matter was resolved successfully. We
protected him, and we will protect him, just as we will all
the others. But it’s important to understand
that, fortunately, this is not such a large
number of people. They frighten many by, uh,
going after one or two individuals. The real
capacity of the authorities for mass
arrests is limited. Again, fortunately, I saw your
nice paddy wagons, and when Lena Marus was approaching
the rally—Lena Marus, who is originally from
Chelyabinsk and is the art director of the Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF)—
you see, those are close ties. She was walking and said,
“I didn’t know we had
paddy wagons here in Chelyabinsk.”
Well, now Chelyabinsk does have paddy wagons,
but there are only three of them. How many people
can you cram into them? When
thousands come out, it’s impossible
to fight them. And that is exactly what we
are counting on, because, well, go ahead—
repress all of Chelyabinsk, go on,
arrest everyone who speaks out against
the authorities. It’s impossible.
A question, again about the rallies.
Did you expect there would be this many people?
Because, well, by many estimates this
far exceeded expectations. And what
do you plan to do next with
this wave of civic activism?
Well, there’s one thing I don’t understand. I’ve heard
the question many times: did you expect it? I don’t
understand why you didn’t expect it. I
did something simple. I went into
the Chelyabinsk rally group and saw that
2,000 people had registered there.
And I understood that, well, roughly
2,000 people would come out in Chelyabinsk. I
am more surprised that we managed to organize it in
eighty cities. And that
goes directly to the question of repression and intimidation.
People wanted to come out, and they did.
So I was watching it. I understood that
the number of people registered in
the group roughly matched the number who
would come out, because people
were registering because they were ready to go
to authorized rallies. And as for
the protest wave,
it’s not some kind of wave
that I organized. It’s simply
what these people are feeling. We released our
anti-corruption investigation. The authorities
are not just ignoring it—they are demonstratively
ignoring everything. And they say, “Well,
we’re not interested at all in what you
think in Chelyabinsk or anywhere else.”
People come out. It doesn’t depend on me.
They come out against the authorities. They come out
against hopelessness, against this
general feeling that nothing can be
changed. They will keep coming out. I will be
part of this process. The next rally is
on June 12. Follow the groups so that
nothing catches you by surprise.
You're next now. Yes. Alexei.
Yes. Ah,
Alexei, it's commonly believed that in Russia,
if you control television,
just the TV channels, you control
public opinion and the country.
How much has the internet changed that situation?
Those videos got 20 million views, right?
20 million, probably even more already including Odnoklassniki (a Russian social network)
even more. I'd like to tell you that
the situation has changed, but that's not really true,
of course, to this day we have, so to speak,
punched a big hole in this wall of
censorship, but television is still
the dominant,
uh, the dominant way of delivering
information, yes, and millions of people are still
being brainwashed, but whereas before they had, say,
I don't know, 99%
of the information reach, and we were somewhere out there
in our blogs, uh, dealing with 1%,
that's no longer the case. We launched our
Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF) programs of
online broadcasting, which in terms of reach already
rival the biggest radio stations.
When we broadcast the rallies
on the 26th, 4 million people watched them
people. That means we can already
compete with television. We, we
are going to develop this, we are going to build
similar, well, excuse the word, homemade
TV studios, including in the regions, and
and we'll experiment with it. Will
people watch local news of this
kind? But one way or another, let me say again,
the internet has dealt a major blow to
the Kremlin's propaganda machine. That's exactly
why, if you look, all the latest
legislative initiatives from the Kremlin
have to do with restricting the internet in one
way or another. But we'll fight here, we
won't give in that easily. By our tradition,
at every press conference, if there is a
willing representative of the
National Liberation Movement (NOD), I
give him one question. Please,
just one question. Thank you. Yes, I
will try to put this briefly now
all of this. My question is this. Tell me,
please, there are rules that
were written in 1993
for us by Americans,
with an organization called US...,
adopted by the people at the [bell]
referendum in 1993. That is,
the rules are
by the people of Russia,
which, of course, you can look up,
it's all publicly available. That is,
the rules are the subject, the governing subject
in relation to any
official, including
the prime minister and the president
of the Russian Federation. Accordingly,
all officials follow the rules. From this
I conclude that the rules are primarily to blame
first, and only then the people. That
is, people follow the instructions of a system
that was written long ago. And my
question is: what do you think,
are people to blame, or the rules? My
view is that first and foremost
the rules are to blame, and then the people.
Let me ask a clarifying question then.
Do I understand correctly that you believe
that it was American rules that made
Medvedev steal 80 billion rubles and spend them
on palaces? Do you think you could put
only Medvedev there? I think
you could put anyone in that position,
including you or me, and
and then pass it all off as something
Medvedev did. I see, I understand. And
then one question. I don't really understand what
rules you're talking about. Then why
do we need Putin? Why does Putin then
follow American rules?
Because the people adopted them in
1993. He cannot fail to
follow them. He is the guarantor of the
Constitution
and at the same time an American puppet.
No, he follows the rules that
the people adopted in a referendum. Do you understand?
All right. Okay, I understand the question. And then
I want to tell you,
you'll follow those rules too.
You asked a question, let me answer.
So, as a candidate for president of
Russia, I represent the part of society
that does not want to follow Putin's rules,
or American rules, or
French rules, or Zimbabwean
rules. Here in Chelyabinsk, I see
people who simply want to live and
work like normal people. Well, you're
probably a local too, right?
And I see people here who want
simple things, like
a higher minimum wage. I see people
who want, uh, a normal
environment. I see people who want
to buy apartments with mortgages not
at 15% annual interest, but at 2% a year, as in
Europe. So, of course, I have honestly
said to NOD many times: you
really ought to be my most
fervent supporters. I'm not against you.
I'm saying there is a situation, a system. You
just need to understand that.
So, well, when people want
to build a processing plant here and extract
ore, but the company is registered in the
British Virgin Islands. So I
think this is exactly some kind of
murky thing, and they are the real
foreign agents. I don’t like this
Constitution. These rules of yours—this is the
Constitution, after all. Right. Right. Let me once again
say that Russia’s Constitution is bad.
Under this Constitution, we have at times
elected governors, then appointed them, then who knows
what. Sometimes our mayors are elected. You
have a city manager now, right? First the mayor was elected,
and now it’s a city manager. All of it under this
Constitution. First four years, then six, then
consecutive terms, non-consecutive terms. I don’t like this Constitution,
just like you don’t. I very much
hope that Chelyabinsk will at least
vote for me in these
elections. Next, please. Thank you for the question.
All right, [applause]
two short questions.
Please tell us where you’re from?
Ah, Maryanova, the online outlet Otpustnoye
Razresheniye 100. First question.
What is the priority direction of judicial
reform? Yes, you’ve spoken about this more than once.
I have two points. First—
your attitude toward carrying
weapons freely. And the second point is the death
penalty. And the second question is
That makes four questions, or three.
The first one. And now the second question. Very
many people have completely different reactions,
but the question is the same. And as far as I know, you still haven’t
presented
an economic platform for achieving
what you’ve been talking about.
It has been presented.
May I answer?
All right, let’s start with—and if I forget any
parts, remind me. The death penalty.
I am against the death penalty. The Russian
judicial system is incapable of distinguishing
a guilty person from an innocent one. In
fact, 99% of our verdicts are convictions.
At the same time, jury trials
produce, uh, far fewer
convictions—60%. But jury
trials are being reduced, squeezed out, and
pushed aside. So, comparing
these things, I draw a simple conclusion. Our
professional judges imprison 30% of people
who are innocent. We have unproven guilt. And
if we allow these people tomorrow
to shoot people, then they
will start shooting left and right at those
who have committed no crimes at all.
As for
weapons, I believe that normal European
practice could be adopted here.
There’s no need to sell anyone
assault rifles, of course, but short-barreled
firearms for self-defense should be
legalized. And Russians in this sense are no
more foolish than Moldovans, people from the Baltics, or
residents of the Russian Empire before the revolution,
who could quite easily buy
pistols for self-defense. As for
the economic program, you are mistaken. We
have laid everything out in considerable detail, but
we will spell it out in even greater detail, because
the election campaign lasts a year. I
will come here a second or third time. It
wouldn’t be interesting for you if I told you
everything right now, would it? So
moving on, let’s just
Federal News Agency. What do you
think about Maltsev’s detention and
his actions? More generally, is he perceived
as a potential... Well, I
certainly view Maltsev as an
ally. I’ve said this many times, and
our political views do not
match 100%. We are not
politically identical, but what he
is doing now is opposition
politics. Maltsev created an independent
information channel, and that is
the main reason for the hatred toward him from
the Kremlin, because they do not
like it. A person goes on air every day, every
single day, and he is listened to by
120,000 people. They don’t like that. They
believe opposition figures are not supposed
to work with such large audiences.
As for his arrest, it is absolutely
illegal. And the way it was carried out was not just
illegal, but outrageous. In Saratov,
they sawed through the man’s door at night, staged some kind of operation,
with his whole family
at home, and for some reason they started dragging him under
escort to Moscow. And it turned out that he was
being held on an administrative detention. You cannot
saw through doors for someone under administrative
detention. This is absolute lawlessness and
precisely the kind of demonstrative lawlessness
meant to intimidate people. Next.
Yes, please.
Ah, Alexei, thank you for your
investigations, but I’m interested in one
question. Ah, Alexander Fotin, Civil
Media.
Here’s what I’d like to ask. You
recently released a video in support of
the protesting truck drivers. You,
accordingly, are speaking in their
support. But there are groups of people in
Russia who are in an even more
difficult situation. Women, for example. Recently
the Russian Federation decriminalized
domestic violence. And then there are, accordingly,
LGBT people, and, accordingly, from
Novaya Gazeta’s investigation, we know
what the situation for them in Chechnya is right now.
So as a presidential candidate, can you
outline your position on
feminism and rights,
So, LGBT rights?
In fact, you've named two
groups. In Russia, any social
group you can think of is, uh,
unfortunately, intimidated. In principle,
any people who see themselves as
a social group and put forward some
political demands are immediately
targeted by the authorities. As for
women's rights, well, of course, I believe
that the law decriminalizing domestic
battery is a terrible piece of stupidity. Uh,
what does domestic battery mean in Russia? Well,
today the state has effectively said:
"Well, you can beat her once, you can beat
her twice, and the third time it all
turns into a stabbing. This is the traditional
Russian pattern of domestic violence, where people
slash each other with kitchen knives
to death. And to decriminalize that is
absolutely the wrong thing to do. And in
that sense, I am of course in favor of
women's rights, but it even sounds a little
absurd to say that I am, well,
against women being beaten in the family.
But nevertheless, this is Russian
reality. But as for these
reports, I haven't studied them that closely,
but what I have read certainly sounds
frightening—that they are killing, uh,
people of non-traditional
sexual orientations.
And that the authorities approve of it—this sounds
simply monstrous, absolutely insane,
just insane. These are some kind of
legalized executions. Frankly, I
don't really understand why the authorities,
the federal authorities, are still silent on
this issue, but I will look into all this
information in more detail. Well
Can you say that you support LGBT rights?
Well, I support the rights of all people, and I
don't divide anyone into categories. In that sense, all
people, regardless of whether they are gay or not,
whether they love cats, whether they are women,
or men—all people must have equal
rights. There can be no other way.
Yes, please.
Ah, Alexei, could you please tell us what
you think about the reform of local
self-government in the Chelyabinsk Region? In
Chelyabinsk, we now have 170 deputies.
Mm-hmm.
Here, city mayors are not elected;
district heads are elected.
The reform of local self-government in
Russia now amounts to the destruction of local
self-government. Across the country, as far as I can tell,
I don't think there is even a single
major city left where the mayor is still
elected. Even at the level of
settlements, heads of administration are
hardly elected anywhere anymore. And, well, is that
good or bad?
Bad. We can see that appointed mayors,
these so-called city managers,
do a worse job than elected mayors.
An official who does not fear
public opinion works worse than
an elected official. Because how many voters does a
city manager have? One:
the governor. And how many voters does the governor have now?
One—the
president. That is what leads to the degradation of
the entire system. In fact, for example, in
the Moscow Region, something even worse is happening right now.
They are merging these, uh, local-government
entities. In other words, there is a complete
and total purge of this system underway,
because this is the only place where
at least some elections and
political competition remain. Of course, I
am strongly against it, and this is a major part of our
program for developing local
self-government. Please, and soon, as I understand it,
Sergei Udaltsov is due to become eligible for
parole. Will you cooperate with him
after his release, and referring back to the first
question, what about his views as a representative
of the communists?
Ah, well, you put that very nicely. I
hope Udaltsov will be released on parole
early. Yes. We can see that in our country
the practice is that political prisoners
are most often not released on parole
early. I hope Udaltsov
will be released as soon as possible, and with him, as with
any representative of the opposition, I
would of course always be in contact. Yes,
please.
Hello, Alexei. Uh, Boris
Zolotorevsky, from the publication Portfolio
Youth. Please tell me, this is
a question about lustration. Many supporters
are compiling lists of officials,
police officers, and judges. Some have even proposed adding
Judge Markova to them, who, in my
case, fined me 10,000 rubles for attending
the rally on the 20th.
Yes. But you say that
lustration should proceed not by
individual names, but by certain levels. That is,
it is a general process. So, could you explain
your position on this?
It's very simple. Look, what is
lustration? It is punishment without guilt,
when we simply say, for example, all
people in blue shirts,
you will never again be allowed to enter
headquarters. That is an example of lustration: punishment
without guilt. We say, for example, all
leaders of United Russia
will never again be able to hold top
public offices. That's one thing. But your
Judge Zolotaryova doesn't need any
lustration; she issued an unlawful
ruling in your case.
An unlawful one. I'm sure you will appeal
have already passed. Right now we're talking about the c
regional court
once you get through it, once you get through the appeal, we
will file an application to the ECHR for you. If
the European Court, which is part of
the Russian judicial system, issues
a ruling that in Zolotaryov's court it was unlawful
that Marko brought charges against you, and you, excuse me,
please, that Markova unlawfully
subjected you to criminal prosecution.
So what? We'll simply imprison her for
violating the laws currently in force. She
prosecuted an innocent person
for a crime. That is an active provision of
the Criminal Code. And all these people, all
these judges, all these organizers of
attacks, beatings, and everyone else,
no illustration is needed. They must
be held accountable simply under the laws currently in force.
That's all. My friends, thank you
so much. I was glad to speak with all of you
here. We just need to start making our way
to the plane. I was very glad to be
here in the Chelyabinsk region. I'm very glad
that everything went so calmly and well. And
even the police were today
super friendly toward our
campaign office. Unfortunately, though, one
campaign office chief was, I repeat, detained. But
otherwise they were very, very
friendly. Thank you very much. Very glad
to see everyone. I will come to Chelyabinsk again
many times. Thank you.