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Who knows—who can name for me at least

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one major industrial enterprise

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built in Russia over the past 15 years?

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I ask this question at every meeting.

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Every single one. This is already my thirty-

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fourth meeting like this with voters.

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And at not a single meeting has anyone

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been able to name one. Well, because such an

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enterprise does not exist.

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I want to see where the railways are,

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built with Putin's money—with

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our money, rather, received during the Putin era.

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I know the statistics showing that Russia

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builds as much railway in a year

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as China builds in a week. Even though

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China has neither oil nor gas.

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Show me our modern

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space industry.

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All I see is a rocket that takes off and

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crashes. Show me the science

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that we are funding with those $3

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trillion we received.

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There is nothing. All I see is the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAN),

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whose purpose is to take away from these

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elderly academicians their real estate.

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Where is the infrastructure, where is healthcare,

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where is the education that belongs to me, my

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children, and you. That is why I believe that I have been

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personally robbed by all these people. I mean,

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I can see this list of billionaires in Russia.

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I see the statistics for the year 2000. Do you know

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how many official

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dollar billionaires there were in Russia? Six. And now

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do you know how many there are? 121.

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The main record that Russia has set

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is the rate of growth in the number of dollar

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billionaires.

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The main record Russia is setting

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is that all the homes in London

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worth more than a million pounds

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are being bought by Russian officials. Am I supposed to

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be proud of that? No. I believe that

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I have personally been robbed. It is as if

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I were riding on a trolleybus and I had

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my 640,000 rubles—my share of the oil

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rent—and someone stuck a hand into my pocket and

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pulled it out. They pulled it out of my family's pocket too, and

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out of all of yours. That is why I will

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never leave alone either

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Gazprom, or Rosneft, or

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Transneft, or all the rest. This

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group of people that took the $3 trillion

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received from the sale of our

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natural resources and simply kept it for themselves.

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And here, at this point, I am now addressing

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you as

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a candidate for mayor of Moscow who wants

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to earn your support. I want to earn

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your support. I want you to vote

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for me.

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I want you to tell others about

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me. I came here to persuade you.

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And I am telling you that I am standing here

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first and foremost because I am the most

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ordinary, simple Muscovite, living in

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an ordinary apartment building, living the life of an ordinary

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Moscow family. And all the problems

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I am talking about here are not even just the

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problems that you yourselves experience—

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they are my problems. I want to solve the problems

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that my family has

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run into. I am talking to you here about housing and utilities services

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not because I know that this issue

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concerns you. It concerns me.

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It concerns me. For my apartment in a

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prefabricated panel building, I get a bill for 9,500

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rubles. How is that acceptable at all? And I

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understand that I am not receiving services worth

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that amount. I understand that the tariff

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keeps rising. I want to become the mayor who

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will finally conduct an audit of housing and utilities tariffs,

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so that we can finally understand: why are we

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paying so much? Why did Mosvodokanal

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a state-owned company, make

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a profit of 3 billion rubles in 2011,

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and then in 2012 still

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raise the water tariff? They operate at a

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net profit. Our company operates

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with a net profit of 3 billion, and yet the tariff still

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goes up. I want to conduct an audit

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so that everyone can see it—you can see it, and I can

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see it too.

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the astonishing things that happen

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when tariffs are set. Did you know, for example,

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that when last year you

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paid for electricity and heating in your

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home, you also paid for sponsorship support to

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United Russia in the amount of 200 million rubles. Mosenergo

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transferred them a donation of 200 million

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rubles by including it in the tariff.

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They justify it; they come to city hall

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and say: "Here are our urgent expenses,

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without which we cannot continue to exist."

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And there is a line item there: "Support for United Russia

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200 million rubles."

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I want to become the mayor who will conduct

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an audit of this tariff and expose,

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once and for all, all these nonexistent

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investment components, these virtual construction projects

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that are included there but in

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reality are never carried out. I do not want

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to pay for that. I am sure you do not want

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to pay for it either. The example I

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give at every rally about the head of my district administration

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in Maryino. You may

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have seen how a month ago he was removed from

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office. He was removed because his

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wife—you probably saw it on television—was driving a

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jeep and ran into pedestrians.

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The pedestrians recorded the whole thing on video. There was

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a scandal, and the district head was fired. That jeep—

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remember? It was a Range Rover with

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the license plate 999.

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And this man, the district head,

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has spent his whole life in municipal service. He

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was the head of the district administration in Nekrasovka,

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then in Lyublino, then in my district of

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Maryino. His whole life in

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in municipal service. He has a decent

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salary, but judging by his officially declared

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income, he really ought to be earning less than

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I do. But he openly lives the life of a

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dollar millionaire, completely

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without the slightest embarrassment before me, or

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the residents of the district, or anyone. And I do not want

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to pay for his millionaire lifestyle through my 9,500-ruble

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utility bill. That is why I

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want to become the mayor who will put a stop to all

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of this. I came here to your district and

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climbed onto this stage.

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Because, just like you, I go to an

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ordinary city clinic. And my

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wife goes to an ordinary city

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clinic

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or to a children's clinic if she

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goes there with the children. And, just like you, I can

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be shown a TVC (a Moscow TV channel) report a million times,

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with the triumphant, beaming Sergei

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Semyonovich Sobyanin saying that we

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have this electronic appointment system.

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You come to this electronic registration desk and

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you get to see a doctor right away. Well, that is

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nonsense. I have been to an ordinary clinic. I do

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not live on Rublyovka (an elite wealthy area near Moscow). You are all nodding

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your heads, because everyone knows it. We, we

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go to ordinary clinics,

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but we cannot get in to see a doctor. And do you know

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by how much

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more is spent on healthcare for any

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resident of Moscow compared with

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any other Russian? By how much more

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is allocated per Muscovite, what percentage more

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is allocated for a Muscovite than for any

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other person? Who knows?

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By 70.

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By 70%. Any other guesses?

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Twice as much.

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Four times as much. Four times

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more is allocated for every person sitting

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here than for any other

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citizen of Russia. For every one

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of you standing here, and for every Muscovite,

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the amount allocated for outpatient clinic

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care

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is 20,000 rubles a year. So for my family

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of four, that is 80,000 rubles.

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That is a huge amount of money. And I am simply

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curious. Please raise your hands,

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those of you who have been to your local

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clinic in the past year.

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I see. Some of you have. And who has not been to their

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local clinic? Aha. Let me tell you,

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my friends, 20,000 rubles has also been written off

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for each of you.

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I want to become the mayor who will direct these huge

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funds that are already being allocated toward

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finally hiring general practitioners,

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internists, and the doctors

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that Muscovites need in 90% of cases.

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Now just tell me, is it easy to get an

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ultrasound in an ordinary clinic?

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No.

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You all tell me: "No, just go up,

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please, to any metro station, and there is

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one of Sobyanin's little campaign tents there." And in the section

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listing Sobyanin's achievements, the first thing

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displayed is: "Bought 1,200 ultrasound machines for Muscovites

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". It gives the impression that he personally went out

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and bought us 1,200 ultrasound machines. But I

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know that it is impossible to actually get an ultrasound. We

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are all forced to go to private

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ultrasound clinics because getting one at a public clinic

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is extremely difficult. I want to become the mayor

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who will make sure that the huge sums allocated for

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equipment are spent not on

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buying that equipment at twice

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the real price, but on making sure

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that people can actually get an ultrasound. Because

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sometimes my wife needs one, my children need one,

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I need one. And apparently, as I get older, I will

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need ultrasounds more often, like anyone

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else. This is about caring for a normal life.

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I am standing here before you because

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the issue of migration does not just

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concern me,

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it has become part of my life. Because

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when I was preparing for this meeting with you, I

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looked at what people here were writing about

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migration problems, all these outcries. You have

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that former state farm here,

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what is it called?

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Teplichny.

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Teplichny,

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where for two years there has been an illegal camp

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for migrants. I looked carefully at the history

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of it, and several times

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orders were issued saying it had to be

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shut down, that all of it was illegal.

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And yet it is still there. Funny how that works,

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isn't it? What happened at Matveyevsky Market?

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So, some Dagestanis beat up a police officer. In

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response, the Moscow government

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set up a concentration camp where

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200 Vietnamese people are being held.

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What is that supposed to be? Well, please,

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go to this Teplichny place. I invite both

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Sobyanin and everyone else to come to my district,

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Maryino, and take a walk in my Maryinsky Park

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after 9:00 p.m. Then he will understand

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why the women living in my building

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are afraid to go outside in the evening.

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And then he will learn that for me this

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crime statistics are not just numbers

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on a piece of paper. I know this because I personally know

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several people, several women, whose

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bags were snatched by these migrants.

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And I know perfectly well

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why migrants come here. I want

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to become mayor because I know that

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migrants come here not because

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there are jobs here, but because people profit

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from them. Let us simply

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take a quick poll. Who knows how much

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their local street cleaner earns? Who has asked

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a street cleaner what his salary is?

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10,000. 10

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7

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10 10

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4 21

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10

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10

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15

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15

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Here’s an interesting thing. If we all

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read together the interview

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with Sobyanin’s deputy Biryukov, who

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is precisely responsible for this area, or

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just look at the official standard. I

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have looked at it. The current official

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pay standard for street sweepers tells us

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that there are no street sweepers in Moscow

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who earn less than 30,000 rubles.

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Yes, the funny thing is that any real, live

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street sweepers we

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speak to give us figures like 10, 15,

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8, 4, 5. My street sweeper told me 18.

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And this is the kind of secret all

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Muscovites know: these migrants are brought here

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to be kept in conditions like slavery,

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30 people to a basement, because

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each of them, along with his salary,

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each one of them, every month, simply

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flows like a huge full river along the route

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of the management company, housing services,

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the district administration, the prefecture, the police station,

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the migration service, and so on, and so

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on. I want to become the mayor who changes this

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because I do not need

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migrant-related crime and

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so on. This is my problem, one I

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encounter myself. I do not live like Sobyanin, behind

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the Rublyovka fence (an elite wealthy suburb outside Moscow), with reports brought to me.

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No,

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this is part of my life. I am standing here

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before you because I follow

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the budget process very

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closely and carefully watch how

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money is spent in Moscow. I know the size

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of the Moscow city budget. Who can

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tell me what Moscow’s annual budget is?

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52 billion.

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A 500 billion deficit.

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1.6, 1.6 trillion rubles. Moscow’s budget

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is smaller only than the budgets

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of New York and Shanghai. All of us sitting and

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standing here must understand one

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important thing: we live in one of the

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richest cities in the world.

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And the richest cities of Europe and America

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simply cannot even come close

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to comparing with Moscow in terms of their

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wealth. With the money we already

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have right now.

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Right now, Muscovites could already have good

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healthcare, quality

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education,

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roads where traffic jams are successfully being dealt with,

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traffic congestion,

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fewer migrants on the streets

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and all the other things enjoyed by

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residents of major cities around the world.

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They have all that there; they have problems too, but

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they deal with them successfully. And I am standing here

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before you because I have written

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a program that the best specialists helped me write,

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drawing on the experience

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of how other cities successfully solved

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all these problems. We can solve them all,

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and we have the money

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to solve these problems. You know,

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if I were standing here

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running for mayor of Kostroma,

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and you were all residents of Kostroma, you would

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say to me: "Navalny, here you are

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running, and we demand that you build us

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another outpatient clinic." And I would

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say to you, my dear Kostroma residents, there is no money

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in our budget. You will not get

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that clinic; I will not make easy

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promises that cannot be fulfilled. But I am

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running for mayor of Moscow. So I tell you,

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my dear Muscovites, in our

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budget there is more than enough money for everything.

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For us to live normally in

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Moscow, we have the city, we have

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the infrastructure, we have a very

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highly educated population that

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is capable of managing all of this. We have

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everything. The only thing we lack is faith in ourselves. For some reason, we

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have simply somehow decided that

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nothing can be changed. At every

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meeting, someone comes up to me,

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shrugs, and says: "Well,

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all of this is true. We know all this,

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everything you’ve said is already known."

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"But nothing can be changed."

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But why can’t it be changed? I came here

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because I believe it can

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be changed. But why have we accepted

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that there is this kind of system of power

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that robs us, insults us, and

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simply despises us,

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and we just say, all right, that’s the way things are.

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Show me—I don’t know—is there an army here

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standing guard over us? No, I think there’s

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maybe one police officer somewhere here

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watching over us, and that’s all.

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Here, through your own district, runs this

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North-Western Chord (a major highway project), right? And about

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this entire North-Western Chord, everyone unanimously

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says that it costs 83 billion. And all

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transport experts tell us

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that, first, from a transportation

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standpoint it is fairly pointless,

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and second, it costs twice as much

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as it should. Its original

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estimate was 30 billion, and now it has risen to

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83. But we all know that in the construction of

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the North-Western Chord

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so much money will be stolen from this one project

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as would be needed to build

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additional outpatient clinics and schools not just

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in the North-Western

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District, but across all of Moscow. We

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We know all this, we understand it all. We shrug

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our shoulders and say, "Well, nothing can be

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changed." That's just how things are. But why

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are they that way? Are we the stupidest people?

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Are we the most cursed, the most

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pointless inhabitants of the planet or what? No

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— no. I'm standing here because I believe

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that this is the source of power,

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that people choose their government. And people

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choose their mayor themselves. Not the Central Election Commission,

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not television, not Churov. People choose.

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This whole gang entrenched at the top

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doesn't rule everyone through fear, but simply

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through passivity. Because we

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shrug our shoulders and think: "Well, nothing

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can be changed." Everything can be changed. I

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don't have the opportunity to appear on television.

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I don't have the opportunity to plaster the city with billboards.

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But you still came here

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somehow. I did let you know about

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my presence. I announced it in my

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program. And the persuasive, campaigning

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power of each one of you is

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tremendous.

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I believe that through you, through meetings like these,

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I will speak to hundreds of thousands, to

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millions of Muscovites. And in order to

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elect the mayor of Moscow, we need 1.5 million

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people. Moscow has a population of 15 million,

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with 8 million voters. And in order to

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elect a mayor, taking turnout into account, we need 1.55

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million people. There are 1.55 million people in

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Moscow who know everything and understand everything.

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Each of those one and a half million people can

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stand here with me and

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say exactly the same things.

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Our task is simply to reach those

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one and a half million. I am absolutely certain

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that, relying on you, through you, I

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will speak to hundreds of thousands. If we

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cast off this haze from ourselves, if we

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finally understand that on the

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North-West Chord (a major Moscow highway project), they are stealing not just

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billions, but our billions, they are depriving

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us of clinics and schools,

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they are depriving us of roads without traffic jams, then

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we can change everything. We just need to

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realize our own strength. We absolutely will

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realize it. I am absolutely certain that with

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your help, we will put pressure on the authorities. We

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will force them to change, and we will make sure

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that the government in Moscow is worthy of its

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wonderful residents. Thank you very much.

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I'm ready to answer your questions.

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Please. Thank you. Thank you. I'm very

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pleased. All right, you ask, and then I'll

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repeat it for everyone.

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Well, I understand the question about the waiting list, about housing.

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I understand.

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I'll repeat it for everyone afterward. And so I

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came

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and they told me to go

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outside Moscow. That's exactly what happened, I wanted everyone

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...Alexeevna. I see. Natalia

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Alexeevna has a question. Now I will

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answer. Thank you. The question is that she

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has the right to receive an apartment.

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Natalia Alexeevna, there are just a lot of

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people here. If I spend too long listening to

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the question, then—yes, yes, please.

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What should the president do, meaning Sobyanin,

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so that he looks into it, and so Sobyanin doesn't write

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telling me to go somewhere else.

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Should that be brief?

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Sobyanin told Natalia Alexeevna

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that when she asked for the housing allocation due to her by

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law, she should go

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to another city and find housing there. Am I quoting

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that correctly? Well, listen, you recently read

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Sobyanin's statement that

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we would build wonderful cities for

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pensioners beyond the Urals and in the Russian Far East

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.

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Well, it's funny, yes, a funny thing, but it

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simply illustrates how much they

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despise everyone, if they can make statements

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like that, after which they

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should get zero votes, but they are not

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embarrassed at all. And as for the issue that

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concerns apartments, housing allocations, and

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waiting lists, which I get asked about at

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every meeting—here the matter is simple.

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Tell me, please, can any of you

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go online or to some

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library, look at the list, and

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see the queue? Who is first in line,

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who is second, who is third? Can that be done

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right now? No.

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I want to become the kind of mayor who will do

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one simple thing: publish the entire list,

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so there is a list of everyone waiting, from first

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to last, a list of beneficiaries, a list of

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super-beneficiaries. And so that everyone can

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see it and monitor it, because

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we buy a huge amount of housing for beneficiaries,

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a huge amount. Only all these

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beneficiaries somehow turn out to be

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city hall employees. Here, at a preferential

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price, you know, TV host

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Vladimir Solovyov, one of our 'beneficiaries,' bought

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an apartment for 3 million rubles (about US$90,000 at the time), which is worth

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around 30 million rubles (about US$900,000). And TV host Andrei

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Malakhov received an apartment on

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Kropotkinskaya. That's how this system of power works:

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for some reason, TV presenters, as 'beneficiaries,'

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get apartments even though they have their own

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money. But you, Natalia Alexeevna,

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are being told to go to another city.

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And they would tell me the same thing if I

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had the right to receive housing. And they tell

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everyone that. So I want to become a mayor

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who simply makes this transparent.

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Just let everyone see it. Then no one will be able to

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slip anyone into the line. It seems like

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an elementary measure, but it's an obvious one. Yes,

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just publish the waiting list—but no one

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does it. And do you know why they don't? Because

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just go ahead and look,

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for example, to the city

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election commission’s website and look there

20:28

at the list of candidates’ assets. Mine,

20:30

for example, you’ll see my assets. I have,

20:32

a 78 sq. m apartment in Marino (a Moscow district). You’ll see the car

20:35

my wife owns, some VAZ-2108,

20:39

which I bought back in 1996

20:40

and it’s still listed under my name

20:42

because I sold it by power of attorney.

20:43

It’s all there. Look into

20:45

me and my property, and then go to

20:48

the Sobyanin section, and you’ll see that

20:51

somehow Sergei Semyonovich

20:53

Sobyanin’s underage

20:55

daughter owns a 308 sq. m apartment.

20:58

I’ve never even seen an apartment like that

21:01

in my life.

21:02

Explain to me how a person

21:05

who has been in government service since 2001 can

21:08

buy himself an apartment in the city center on

21:10

Rochdelskaya Street, 308 sq. m in size.

21:14

If he came from Tyumen, an important

21:16

official came from Tyumen, then he should have been

21:18

given official housing, which maybe

21:21

he could later privatize.

21:23

Not his daughter, but he himself. But I think

21:26

everyone here has dealt with housing problems.

21:28

Remind me, please,

21:29

what is the housing norm per person?

21:31

How many square meters? 18.

21:32

18.

21:33

You’re saying it in unison. 18. So how many

21:36

family members does Sergei Semyonovich

21:37

Sobyanin have, that he got a 308 sq. m apartment?

21:40

That’s why the waiting list is opaque,

21:43

because they hand out apartments to themselves.

21:47

That’s all. I want to become the kind of mayor who

21:48

does one elementary, obvious, and very

21:50

simple thing. It could be done tomorrow:

21:52

open up the waiting list, and then it will be clear

21:54

who is actually on the list and who are these dubious

21:57

daughters with mysterious 308 sq. m apartments.

21:59

Next question. Please.

22:01

Please tell me, for a year now we’ve been going

22:03

to rallies over this chordal highway. Now

22:06

they’ve already started building it, and you

22:08

are already saying what a huge sum

22:09

has been allocated. If you become mayor, I have

22:12

two questions: will you be able to stop this

22:14

construction? Probably not. And

22:17

one more question is connected with these

22:19

events. It’s easiest of all to fight

22:22

this migration by shutting down all the markets. But

22:25

you understand that Moscow can’t do without markets.

22:27

Today I went to Vykhina (a Moscow district),

22:29

to the Vykhino market, where pensioners always

22:32

shop at the lowest prices

22:33

all the time. So if you become

22:36

mayor, what will your policy be on

22:37

this?

22:38

Question number one. Thank you very much.

22:39

Excellent question. Question number one: what

22:41

to do about the chordal highway? It’s being built. So if

22:43

you become mayor, what will you do about

22:44

the chordal highway? Question number two: what will you

22:46

do about migrants? We’re all

22:47

unhappy. What are we going to do? Let’s start with

22:49

the chordal highway.

22:49

Markets, not migrants.

22:50

Well, markets then. And that is connected with

22:52

migrants,

22:54

with the chordal highway, as with any other

22:57

construction projects. The chordal highways are not

22:59

the be-all and end-all. This one

23:01

is just very expensive, so people cite it

23:02

as an example. Yes, we all know the chordal highway

23:04

costs 30 billion rubles. There is also the Southern ROKADA (a major road project), which

23:08

costs 10 billion rubles. And everyone says that

23:10

it too is twice as expensive as it should be. On the Southern

23:11

ROKADA, someone will also pocket 5 billion

23:14

rubles.

23:15

The mayor’s job is to make sure the biggest

23:19

construction projects are approved or not approved

23:21

only after proper calculations. That seems like

23:24

an elementary, obvious thing, right?

23:26

If you take the newspaper Vedomosti from the day before yesterday

23:28

and read there

23:31

Sobyanin’s interview, he is asked:

23:33

"Sergei Semyonovich, what is your greatest

23:35

achievement?" And he answers: "My

23:38

very great achievement is that in

23:39

Moscow we launched three of the most

23:42

expensive construction projects in the world.

23:45

We’re building roads." And it was very hard for us to do

23:47

because there is neither

23:49

strategy, nor a plan, nor calculations.

23:52

I’m not joking, go read it. I’m not twisting

23:55

his words; that is exactly what he said. I want to become

23:57

the kind of mayor who, before spending

24:00

38 or another 83 billion rubles on something,

24:03

will first produce a strategy, calculations, and a plan. That’s

24:07

all. The mayor’s job is to make sure

24:09

the contractors are normal

24:11

construction companies. Who is currently

24:12

the main road construction contractor

24:13

in Moscow? Who knows?

24:15

Mostotrest.

24:15

Rotenberg. Rotenberg is that

24:18

Putin judo trainer.

24:20

Back in Soviet times he was a judo coach,

24:22

and now he is our chief builder

24:24

of roads in Moscow. And who is, remind me,

24:26

please, the main contractor for

24:27

metro construction in Moscow right now?

24:29

Timchenko.

24:30

Timchenko? You know everything without me.

24:32

Timchenko, the very same guy I’m

24:35

constantly suing. The main trader in

24:37

Russian oil,

24:39

a citizen of Finland, who gave up

24:42

Russian citizenship. A citizen

24:43

of Finland, living in Switzerland and

24:45

through his Swiss offshore

24:47

company selling Russian oil and

24:49

becoming an official billionaire with

24:51

an enormous amount of money, is now

24:53

building the metro for us and also, amazingly,

24:55

at twice the price it

24:56

should cost. So my job as

24:59

mayor is to make sure that construction

25:01

projects are properly justified, that first

25:03

everything is calculated, then those who want

25:05

to criticize can criticize, and we understand

25:07

what the real amount should be. Then

25:09

we hire a real, proper

25:11

contractor, not Timchenko and Rotenberg,

25:13

who win all these tenders

25:14

without any competition at all, and only then

25:17

start spending money. That's all. I mean,

25:19

there's nothing original about it, it's simply

25:21

how things are done in every normal city. There's

25:23

nothing to invent here, and no need to reinvent anything.

25:25

It's just that right now, decisions about

25:27

launching the biggest construction projects

25:29

are made not because someone decided

25:31

that the North-West Chord highway is actually needed.

25:33

No, they came into the office and said: "Your

25:35

budget is somehow too big, 1.6

25:37

trillion, let's cook up something

25:38

for about 80 billion." And so

25:40

they did. That's not an exaggeration.

25:42

Look at what's happening with

25:43

the reconstruction of Leninsky Prospekt.

25:46

First they said: "We're going to carry out

25:48

the reconstruction of Leninsky Prospekt; anyone

25:50

who's against it is an idiot." Now, with the election approaching, residents have

25:52

raised an uproar. Sobyanin came out

25:54

and said: "Fine, we won't do

25:55

the reconstruction of Leninsky Prospekt."

25:57

After the election, he'll say: "Let's go ahead

25:59

and do it after all." Is anyone doing the calculations? We have

26:01

Moskomarkhitektura (Moscow's architecture committee), we have

26:03

NIPI Genplan (the city planning institute), we have the construction

26:05

complexes. Is anyone calculating anything at all, or

26:07

are we some kind of village with just

26:09

chaotic construction? I want to become

26:12

the mayor who finally brings

26:13

order. A question about migration and

26:15

markets.

26:18

40% of all Tajik men in the world

26:21

male.

26:23

Wow.

26:24

Okay. Now raise your hand if you

26:27

have entered, without a visa, any

26:28

European country.

26:31

How did you manage that? You probably have

26:33

a passport of some other

26:34

citizenship, I suppose. Which country did you enter

26:36

without a visa?

26:40

Montenegro. Visa-free entry. In

26:42

Montenegro, yes. Poland is in the European Union. You need

26:44

to get a Schengen visa. So, look,

26:46

here's the point. A visa regime applies

26:49

to both you and me. Neither I nor you can

26:52

enter Germany or

26:55

France without a visa. If we travel,

26:57

for example, to the United States, we'll have to provide

26:59

fingerprints even at the embassy and at the

27:02

border. We do it, and nobody dies from it.

27:04

So please explain to me why

27:07

any Uzbek or Tajik, even without an international

27:10

passport, using only their domestic

27:12

passport, can come to Moscow at any time

27:13

simply by buying a ticket and showing up.

27:16

Why are Tajikistan or

27:19

Uzbekistan somehow closer to me, to us, than France and

27:20

Germany? Yes, they are former republics

27:22

of the Soviet Union. But we have a visa regime with Georgia

27:24

(the country). Do we have a visa regime with Turkmenistan?

27:26

Yes, we do. Nobody died from it. Everything

27:29

is fine. It works. So what is the difference

27:30

for us standing here between Georgia and

27:34

Tajikistan, or between Turkmenistan and

27:35

Uzbekistan? None. So the first measure

27:38

that needs to be introduced is a perfectly normal one. Don't

27:41

worry, we have plenty of balloons, we'll

27:42

give you another one. A normal, lawful

27:46

measure is to introduce a visa regime with

27:48

the countries of Central Asia and the South Caucasus. I,

27:50

by the way, am the only candidate who

27:51

openly supports this. All the others

27:53

keep wavering back and forth on it.

27:55

This is normal. They don't let me into

27:58

Germany without a visa. They don't let you in either. It's

28:00

normal if we don't let in

28:01

citizens of other countries so freely. That's how Germans

28:03

protect themselves, and that's how we should protect ourselves.

28:06

Measure number two is

28:09

a measure against those contractors and

28:11

companies for whom it is currently very profitable to hire

28:13

illegal migrants. Right now, if you hire

28:14

an illegal worker, their labor is cheap,

28:18

and if you get caught, it's just a small fine

28:20

or a small bribe. I have drafted

28:23

a bill stating that if a company is

28:25

caught using the labor of

28:26

illegal migrants, it

28:27

is disqualified. That means it will never again

28:29

get access to city

28:31

funds. This is a measure that will actually

28:33

work.

28:35

And measure number three. Within a year, we will

28:38

introduce a rule under which any

28:40

commercial or state

28:42

organizations that use

28:43

budget money will not have the right to use that

28:45

budget money to hire foreigners.

28:47

If it is a fully commercial

28:49

enterprise using its own money, that is not

28:50

our business. Let them hire whoever they

28:52

want. But all these contractor

28:54

organizations, these GUPs and DEZs (municipal utility entities), and so on,

28:57

and so on, that work with our

28:59

money, must use that money of ours

29:02

to hire Russian citizens. And they have the money

29:04

to do that, or even to hire Muscovites. The money for

29:06

it exists. We hear a lot of tales and

29:09

myths on this subject. You've surely heard

29:11

this one: "If all the Uzbeks leave Moscow,

29:14

we'll be buried in filth." Have you heard that?

29:16

Of course.

29:17

They say it all the time. Supposedly, if the Tajiks leave

29:19

Moscow, there will be no one to clear the snow.

29:20

Heard that?

29:22

Well, we've all been living in Moscow

29:24

for a long time, haven't we? And the truth is that

29:26

Until 2003, there were no migrants at all in Moscow.

29:29

There weren't any. In most

29:32

Russian cities, there are no migrants.

29:35

In Russian cities with populations under

29:36

500,000, there are no migrants at all. In

29:39

Belarus, there are no migrants at all.

29:41

Look at the ranking of Russia's most livable

29:43

cities. There are no migrants there. By

29:45

adopting these three basic

29:47

rules, we can seriously reduce both

29:49

the number of migrants and the number

29:51

of crimes associated with those

29:52

migrants. We will definitely do that,

29:54

because my job as mayor is to work

29:56

for Muscovites. They, as I said at the very

29:59

beginning, drag them here because they

30:01

kick back to me from their wages

30:02

10,000 rubles every month. Next question.

30:05

Yes,

30:07

you didn't say anything about the markets.

30:10

There are a lot of people here, so let's keep it to one

30:11

person, one question. Please choose the main one.

30:20

Could you give the microphone to the person asking,

30:22

so we can hear the question?

30:24

I'll repeat it for everyone afterward.

30:34

The first question is about the financing of the

30:36

election campaign. You know that

30:39

United Russia is constantly outraged:

30:41

"Oh, Navalny's election campaign

30:42

is being financed improperly."

30:44

It's true that in terms of the size of our

30:47

campaign fund, we are second only to Sobyanin.

30:49

Sobyanin has raised, I think, about 1.2 billion

30:50

rubles, while we have raised 35 million rubles so far. What drives them

30:53

crazy is one simple fact:

30:56

the sponsors of our election

30:58

campaign are ordinary people. Twenty

31:02

or rather by now around 25,000 people

31:04

have sent us 100, 200, or 500 rubles.

31:06

That is exactly how our

31:08

election campaign is financed. United Russia

31:10

simply cannot calm down. It just

31:12

cannot wrap its head around the fact that there are

31:14

people who sponsor an

31:16

election campaign, people who

31:18

send their own 500 rubles

31:21

for an election. We compiled statistics on who

31:24

is sending us money. You know, I myself

31:26

was simply amazed by this figure. Who do

31:28

you think it is? Just tell me: who is the

31:31

representative, the typical representative

31:33

of the population, in terms of gender and age, who

31:35

donates the largest amount on average

31:36

of money?

31:39

Young people say pensioners. But in fact,

31:41

for some reason, the average, typical

31:43

donor of ours is a 60-year-old woman.

31:47

They still give

31:49

small amounts, around 500

31:51

rubles, but they donate even more than

31:53

young people do. I am very proud of that fact,

31:56

because our election campaign is

31:58

the first election campaign in

32:00

Russia to be financed

32:01

by ordinary people in the true sense. That means a great deal to me,

32:03

because I

32:06

have spent many years

32:10

proving to everyone—to you and to myself—

32:12

that I can live by the same principles

32:14

that I demand from officials. Our

32:16

Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF) is financed in exactly

32:18

the same completely transparent way. You can go in

32:20

and see who earns what salary, who

32:23

does what, their last name, first name, patronymic,

32:25

and each person's work statistics.

32:26

We have been doing this for many years.

32:28

It's difficult work, but in return people

32:31

donate money to us because they

32:33

are confident that we will use that money

32:36

properly, and we do use it

32:37

properly. That is exactly why people

32:39

continue to fund us now.

32:41

That is exactly why yesterday 35

32:43

internet entrepreneurs,

32:45

not especially big players, not especially

32:47

wealthy, but nevertheless they quite

32:49

openly declared that they support

32:51

Navalny and will also

32:53

help finance his election

32:54

campaign. Gazprom will not finance me,

32:56

and I don't need it.

32:58

And all those utility companies,

33:00

they finance Sobyanin and everyone else.

33:02

But naturally, what is a hundred times more

33:04

valuable and important to me are the people who

33:06

send me their small donations, and

33:08

the entrepreneurs who openly

33:10

are not afraid to support me. And the second

33:12

question was about my fate.

33:18

As I understand it, this is a question about all

33:19

these criminal cases and so on. Well, you

33:21

know that at one point I was even

33:24

jailed once, right? And yet here I

33:27

am standing before you, speaking. And at

33:29

every meeting where I am asked

33:30

about this, I say every time

33:32

to residents: thank you very much, because

33:34

it was thanks to you that I was released. It was

33:37

thanks to you, thanks to those who came out

33:38

into the streets, thanks to those who were outraged.

33:41

And for the first time in history, we showed

33:44

the authorities that we do not believe they have the right

33:48

to imprison anyone without due process

33:50

on the basis of any fabricated

33:52

charge. And we do not want things to

33:54

be that way. And something happened that I myself

33:56

did not believe in when they led me to the cell.

33:58

Of course, I understood that I was not going to spend

34:00

five years in prison, but if someone had told me

34:01

that people would take to the streets and that the

34:03

next day I would be released, I never would have

34:05

believed it. So my

34:08

fate—grand as that may sound—

34:09

is entirely in your

34:12

hands. As long as I have the support

34:15

of the people behind me, nothing can

34:17

be done to me. No one will jail me, and we ourselves

34:19

will put them all behind bars.

34:22

Yes, please. Go ahead, go ahead.

34:24

So, I want the microphones for you

34:26

to be turned on. Don't hide. So, many of our

34:28

residents and all Muscovites

34:30

want to know why Sobyanin publishes

34:34

decrees of his that don't work. I would like

34:38

to make sure this question reaches

34:41

Sobyanin. Ideally, I ask that it be conveyed

34:43

to him. If he issues such decrees and

34:46

they don't work, why are they published in

34:50

the press? Specifically, this affected everyone with water meters.

34:53

Everyone, all of us.

34:54

Specifically, it was published in all the newspapers

34:56

that water meters did not need

34:58

to be inspected,

35:00

that's right

35:00

Let Sobyanin answer us in the press or on

35:03

television why we should even go to vote for him

35:06

at all. And

35:08

What do you think, Lidia Petrovna, and everyone

35:10

gathered here—I will pass along Lidia

35:12

Petrovna's question

35:13

and that's it, because his people are here.

35:17

His people are here, yes, of course his

35:19

people are here. There are surely representatives of the district administration here

35:21

taking notes on everything,

35:24

filming everything, and so on. But, Lidia

35:26

Petrovna, the conclusion is: you're absolutely right. I, I came here

35:29

precisely because all these laws and

35:31

all this outrage—I share it with you as well.

35:35

The very same laws that don't work

35:37

for you also don't work for

35:38

me. But if our conclusion is that we should simply

35:41

not go to the elections as a sign

35:44

of protest against Sobyanin, that's like the story about

35:46

the rabbit: "Don't throw me into the briar patch."

35:47

Sobyanin is just waiting for you

35:49

not to go to the elections in protest.

35:52

Then he'll bus in his Kyrgyz migrant workers on

35:54

three buses, and they'll vote at

35:56

every polling station, and he'll say: "You know,

35:59

I won with 85%."

36:01

Muscovites have trusted me again. Muscovites

36:03

have placed their trust in United Russia. Thank you very much, Muscovites.

36:08

Are we really going to let ourselves be deceived like that?

36:10

That's all. Therefore, Lidia Petrovna, I share your

36:12

outrage, but this tactic of your fight is

36:14

the wrong one. Please.

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