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Hello.

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Thank you very much. To be honest, when I was

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walking here through the puddles just now, I was thinking to myself,

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if I were a voter,

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would I come to a meeting like this or not?

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I really wondered about it. Thank you very much for coming.

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This is very important to me. Our entire

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election campaign is built around

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meetings like this with voters, because

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well, my team and I all

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believe that this is the most genuine, the most

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proper work for candidates:

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to meet with voters.

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I’m looking at you and thinking that I

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really would not want tomorrow

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to be blamed for an outbreak of

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bronchitis or some other

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illnesses. I’ll try not to speak for too long.

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I’d just like to say very briefly,

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very briefly, why I’m here,

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tell you a little about myself, and then

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move on to questions and answers. Does anyone have

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any objections to that

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format?

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No.

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Excellent. My name is Alexei Navalny.

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I am 37 years old.

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For the past 17 years I have lived in Moscow’s

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Maryino district. I have a completely

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standard, ordinary Moscow family,

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a wife and two children. You can come

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a little closer to me, probably. Yes, like that.

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So, there comes

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the first urge to jump back.

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I have a completely standard

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Moscow family: a wife and two children,

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a son. My son is 5 years old; he goes to kindergarten.

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My daughter—don’t climb on that thing. My daughter is 11

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years old; she goes to school.

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I come from a military family, and throughout my childhood and

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youth I moved around military towns.

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My parents still live in a military town outside Moscow.

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By profession, I am a lawyer.

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I have two university degrees. I graduated from

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the Financial Academy under the

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Government of the Russian Federation and the

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law faculty of the Peoples’ Friendship University

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of Russia.

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Excuse me.

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And by profession I’m a lawyer, as I already said,

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I work as a practicing lawyer.

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The Interregional Bar Association. Lawyers

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have their own special legal form. That is,

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lawyers work in bar

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associations.

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If you have followed my work

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more or less over the past couple of years, what

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do you know about me? Right.

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Some people say everything, some say: "Well,

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nothing." Most often, people hear about me as

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someone who files lawsuits against

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various corporations. And I begin all

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my meetings by answering this question.

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Why do I do this? Because, probably,

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it will be easier for all of you to understand why I ultimately

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ended up here. Yes, I sue all these

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Gazproms, Rosnefts, and so on,

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because they are corrupt. I

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fight corruption in them. And for me,

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fighting corruption in state corporations is

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quite clearly, well, a way of defending my own

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interests. After all, what does Russia live on?

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What keeps Russia going?

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The sale of oil and gas. Exactly. Over

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15 years, we sold $3 trillion worth of oil and gas.

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And I, as an ordinary

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citizen of Russia, as a person

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who may be somewhat idealistic

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and believes that the natural resources

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belong to the people, have serious

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questions about where those very same $3

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trillion went. In Brezhnev-era

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times, we received fewer

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petrodollars, but back then in the

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Soviet Union we built factories,

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plants, scientific centers, academic towns,

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the military-industrial complex, and so

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on and so forth. Those trillions of

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dollars that the Soviet Union received

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were invested, and you can see the results. But these

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Putin-era petrodollars that we

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received—where did they go?

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The Ozero dacha cooperative (a well-known group linked to Putin’s inner circle).

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The Ozero dacha cooperative. Well, maybe somewhere else

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too, I don’t know. There are

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maybe 100 of you here, perhaps a little

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more. Can anyone remind me—maybe

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perhaps you know of even one major

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industrial enterprise that has been

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built in Russia over the past 15 years?

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Nord Stream is just a pipeline.

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I ask this question at every meeting,

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and I have never once received

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an answer. Simply because we have not

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built a single major industrial enterprise

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in the past 15 years; we haven’t even

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built an oil refinery.

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There really is only

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one pipeline. And for me this is a very concrete

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problem, because this money

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that Russia received should, it seems to me,

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belong

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to me, to my children, to you, and to your children. These are

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our resources, right? But the only consequence I see

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from the fact that

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Russia sold $3 trillion worth of oil and

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gas is that in 2000 we had six billionaires,

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and now we have 131. That’s

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all. That is the only ranking in which

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we are, uh, moving upward.

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There is nothing else. And I, like

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an ordinary person, like you,

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probably have neither another country nor

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another life. I want the money

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that comes into this country—the enormous

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sums that exist—to solve my

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problems. I know these problems can be

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solved, and that is why I am going into politics,

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because I want to solve these problems. I

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am already standing here before you as

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a candidate for mayor of Moscow, and I want to earn

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your support so that I can solve the

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problems that we can solve in

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Moscow. Look, we have

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a housing and utilities problem.

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Of course there is.

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There is. Do we pay a lot or a little? A lot.

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We pay enormous sums. The

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Moscow city government tells us that we

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pay too little, but, for example, for the maintenance

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of the building and the apartment, per square

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meter we pay 25 rubles. In Kazan they pay

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18. In Yaroslavl they pay 15, and in Astrakhan

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they pay 12. We pay 25. And they tell us:

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"Come on, pay more. Pay more."

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The tariff goes up every year. Can any of

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you Muscovites, any of us, actually

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see what this tariff is made up of?

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Absolutely everything is closed off. I want to become

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mayor so I can audit these tariffs,

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so I can strip out all these

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nonexistent investment

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components, so there is no

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cross-subsidization, where some people

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pay 50 rubles for cold water and others

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pay 8. So that we are not supporting a huge

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number of freeloaders, so that in the

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housing and utilities system we do not have a situation

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where the sons of district prefects own all the

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management companies. I will become mayor,

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I will conduct an audit, and we will lower utility tariffs,

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because in Moscow we pay very

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much. It is not just that it should not rise — it

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should be going down.

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I am running for mayor of Moscow because I want

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to solve the migration problem. Are there migration

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problems in Moscow? No?

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You are all telling me in unison: "Yes." But the

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Moscow city government tells me in unison:

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"No." Because every year they

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approve a migrant quota of 110,000

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people a year. But all of us together

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know that there are a million migrants in Moscow.

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They tell me: "10,000 people.

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It is all lies. And you and I know perfectly well

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why migrants come to

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Moscow. Not because there are jobs,

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but because — well, let me

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finish, and then I will answer the question. Not

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because there are jobs, but

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because people profit from these

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migrants. How much do the janitors earn

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who work in your building?

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5–10.

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5,000 to 10,000 here.

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18,000. Yes.

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There you go — you say, you

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say 10, someone else says 12. But the

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officially established minimum pay rate

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for a janitor is 30,000 rubles. There should

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not be janitors in Moscow who

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earn less than 30,000 rubles. That is why they

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bring in migrant laborers here,

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because they are willing to kick back

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10,000 to 15,000 rubles from their wages. They

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live like slaves, in basements and

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so on, because for our officials

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in the management companies they

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generate an entire river of money. But we

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see the other side of that money

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river. Crime is rising,

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rising. Social tension is rising,

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rising. In Moscow schools there are now

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classes where more than half the children do not

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speak Russian. This is a truly

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enormous problem. I want to become

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mayor in order to address this problem

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now, rather than wait until in 10

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years this problem becomes

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completely unsolvable, when there is a huge

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number of new Muscovites who do not

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know how to speak Russian. At the same

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time, they were born here, they grew up here, and they

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are not going to leave for Uzbekistan. I

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want to solve this problem because I

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encounter it myself. I am running in this election because

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I do not even need to ask. I

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am sure that in your local clinic there are

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enormous lines. Are there lines at the

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clinic?

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There are. But to be honest, I prepared for

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this meeting here. So I read what people

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write about your clinic. But even

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without that, I know, because there is no

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clinic in Moscow that does not have

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lines. And yet, we all know

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that for the healthcare of each Muscovite

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four times more money is allocated

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than for any other

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citizen of Russia. For outpatient clinics alone,

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20,000 rubles are allocated per person.

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per month. Enormous money. We

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have spent over the last two years on the

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program to modernize Moscow

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healthcare 100 billion rubles.

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What is going on over there?

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Some election passions? Let us

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all keep ourselves under control. Just as

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I was just now at the clinic

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starting to talk about Moscow

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healthcare.

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Migrants got into a fight over migrants. But

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you can see what a burning issue

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migration is — people started fighting

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right here.

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All right, wait. Come on, come on. No one

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is going to hit anyone. Our solution

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to the migrant problem is that

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we will introduce a visa regime. I started

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talking about clinics. So, we

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spent 100 billion rubles on the program

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to modernize Moscow

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healthcare, but none of us can

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get

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an ultrasound or MRI without waiting in line? Is it possible to get

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an ultrasound examination at a clinic on the same day

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appeals.

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No.

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No. Can you get a CT scan?

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No. It's impossible to do that for free.

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In general, it's practically impossible to do. And

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we bought these scanners for 100

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billion rubles. And at the Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF)

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we can see that they were simply bought at a price

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twice as high. That's why all this happens:

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equipment is purchased

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so that someone can profit from it. I want

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to become mayor in order to invest in

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doctors, not equipment. We need

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internists, we need general

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practitioners. We do not need to buy

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equipment that nobody can

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operate. I want to become the mayor who

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will change everything. Moscow's budget is 1.6 trillion

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rubles. In size, it is second only

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to the budgets of New York and Shanghai. You and I live

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in one of the richest cities

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in the world. Third in terms of budget, but in terms of

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quality of life, Moscow ranks 154th

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place. That's the little imbalance:

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we have enough money for third place, but we live like

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we're in 154th.

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That's it. Because we simply have no faith in

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ourselves. We think that nothing can be changed.

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We think that this government has already

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decided everything anyway, which means mayors

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cannot be voted out, nothing can

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be changed, because through television,

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through election fraud, they will decide

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everything. I go to meetings like this because

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I believe that the people are the source

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of power. We can change everything. If we

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have recognized our problems, if millions

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of people experience these problems and know

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that these problems can be solved, then we can

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change everything. In order to elect

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the mayor of Moscow—so that I win right

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in the first round—all we need is 500,000

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people. Out of 15.5 million people in a city where

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15 million live, in Moscow there are 1.55 million

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people who know everything, understand

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everything, and are ready to come

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to the polls and elect a normal government for themselves.

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And I am sure that relying on you,

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relying on people who, excuse me,

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are standing in the pouring rain listening

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to things that are fairly obvious to them,

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I know that through you I will speak

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to those hundreds of thousands, and to millions. I

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am sure that on the sixth you will help me

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bring people to the polling

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stations. And I am absolutely sure that

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on the sixth we will be able to change the government,

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we will be able to win and build a normal

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city for ourselves and for our children. Thank you

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very much, dear rain-soaked residents.

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I'm ready to answer your questions.

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On the eighth.

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On the eighth.

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On the eighth, yes, sorry, on the eighth, but

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the sixth too—well, yes, a question. Let me

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repeat the question for everyone afterward.

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We all know perfectly well that there is

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a problem of this kind of crime. You know perfectly well

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that

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Let me give you the microphone, just

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briefly then.

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Yes,

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you all know perfectly well what problems there are.

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There is the problem

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of ethnic crime, there is the problem that

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affected the town of Udomlya, there is the problem that

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affected the town of Pugachyov. And,

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Alexei, why, exactly, did you

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not go to these towns, and how do you

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intend to solve these problems?

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As for why I did not go to

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certain towns, the thing is that I am

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at least under a travel restriction

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pending trial, so I cannot really travel

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to other towns. But that's not the point,

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that all of us together should, you know, in order

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to solve the problem of Udomlya or

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Kondopoga, pack up all of Moscow and go

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to the town of Udomlya.

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That is why I am running in this election: so that the authorities

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and the state will function, so that the police

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will function. The police in Udomlya should

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be dealing with these problems. What we have

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instead, you know, is that

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wedding motorcades firing guns are stopped only

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when people have already blocked the streets, that

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the police hold ethnic gangsters accountable only

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when 10,000

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Spartak fans come out and stage

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riots on Manezhnaya Square. I want

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to become the mayor under whom the system will

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work, so that the police do what

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they are supposed to do under the rules, so that

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people do not take justice into their own hands, and so that none of us

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has to go out and catch some

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Dagestani hooligans ourselves. The police must treat

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people of any nationality

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equally. If there are three hooligans:

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Russian, Chechen, and Dagestani—if

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they are causing trouble, all of them are locked up equally

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for three days. They must not start asking the Chechen

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whether he has relatives in

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Chechnya, whether there will be any problems

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if you jail him for 10 days. They must not

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start asking the Dagestani whether

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people will stand up for him, whether

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black Mercedes cars will come from the

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Dagestani representative office. I will be

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a mayor who treats everyone

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equally, and all hooligans of any

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nationality will be detained

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by a proper Moscow police force. When that

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starts working, we will not need to go anywhere.

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We pay taxes so that the police, the FSB (Russia's security service),

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and law enforcement agencies solve these

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problems. And that is exactly what

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elections are for. We elect a different government, and it will

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work for us. Next question.

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What tool is there to make sure

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the police actually work? What is that tool?

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What will you do?

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A tool. What do you mean, a tool to make sure

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the police work? The police are supposed

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to be working already. Look, one tool

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that falls, for example, within the mayor's powers,

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and that really affects the Moscow

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police, is the justices of the peace. Under

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the law, we can elect them ourselves. So

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are we ready to elect a justice of the

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peace for this district? Are we? Right now, they are

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effectively appointed by the Presidential

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Administration, which is why "telephone justice"

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is what we have. That is why in any confrontation with

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any police officer, we are bound

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to lose, even if the officer is

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obviously in the wrong. I will cut

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those telephone lines, and the justices of the peace,

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for example, will not be subordinate to me either

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as mayor of Moscow. And I need that, because

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that way it will be harder for my team

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to become corrupt. I will not be able

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to become corrupt if Moscow judges,

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if at least the justices of the peace are not

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subordinate to me. That is exactly how

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we cut the corrupt and

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improper ties between the authorities and

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the judicial system, and in that way we will also

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influence the police. Next question,

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please.

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All right, may I

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let's have the microphone, but keep it brief.

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Brief won't be possible. Alexei, I have

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quite a complicated situation. And I am

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a programmer, a very serious

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programmer. I am known all over the world.

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So, with you, everything... Excuse me.

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Hello. No, really. I mean, this is

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something you can check later. So, I came to your

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campaign office and offered my help,

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then went on to Krivokolenny Lane. So

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what your team did there—no

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anti-Sobyanin ad could have done more damage.

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I have never seen such rudeness and the like

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anywhere. And my question now is not even

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about the rudeness itself, but rather

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a suggestion for you. Right now, everything with you is

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one-way. You identify the problems yourselves,

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you decide how to solve them, you communicate them

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to the public, but nowhere on your website

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is there any feedback form where people could

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file a complaint about someone and so on.

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Do you understand? Yes. That's my question.

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Well, you understand, right now our

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team has 11,000 volunteers working in it.

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Different people come in. Look,

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you came in, and I can see that you are

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a decent-looking young man with a can

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of beer. You come in and say, "I'm the best

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programmer in the world." Maybe you are

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the best programmer in the world. Maybe

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you're not the best programmer in the world.

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Obviously, all kinds of

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incidents happen. No one has ever

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coordinated an election campaign the way

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we have. No one has ever managed 11,000

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volunteers. We ourselves don't really know how

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to do that. No one has ever before managed

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to raise 100 million. You know that we—or rather,

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not we, but you—raised 100 million rubles for us

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through small donations. So, naturally,

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there are conflicts; there are a huge

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number of people, someone misunderstands

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someone else, people get offended. That is

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normal, everyday life. It's just that

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right now, since we have been given, perhaps,

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a historic chance truly

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to stand as a united front in this

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election, I believe we need to forget

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personal grievances and work for the common

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cause. Of course, people are people,

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conflicts and different situations happen,

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but we must keep sight of the main goal. Our

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main goal is to make the authorities answer to the people.

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And that is the goal I will work toward.

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Next question, please. There was no

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conflict, but you

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I represent the interests of people with disabilities. Thousands of elderly people

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and people with disabilities will come to vote.

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And of course, many of them may

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vote for you. I would like

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to ask this question. In our district of

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Novogireyevo, the police work terribly

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and do not protect the interests of people with disabilities.

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So where can one find free

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legal assistance? People go and ask for help, and

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people with disabilities in particular are not helped legally

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to defend their rights. Please tell us,

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what kind of help will there be?

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Well, look, when we say that

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the police do not help people with disabilities—well, who

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do the police help? There are people standing here,

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and probably most of them are not

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disabled. Do the police help you?

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No.

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Exactly. That is why we are running in this election, because

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the police help no one. People with disabilities come and say,

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"The police don't help us."

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Chernobyl survivors (people affected by the Chernobyl disaster) come and say:

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"The police don't help us." Large families come

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and mothers with many children say: "The police don't

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help us." This government

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helps no one. And if I told you right now,

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"My friends, I will make sure there is

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separate legal assistance

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for people with disabilities," then everyone else would say to me,

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"Navalny, we don't want you

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to solve only the problem of people with disabilities. We

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want you to solve the problem of power itself."

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It's just that right now everything is arranged in such

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a way that those in power do not care. They

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do not care about people with disabilities, about people without disabilities,

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about pensioners—about anyone."

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They believe

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that

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they can spit on the public, because

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elections depend on television, and elections

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depend on the election commissions. So,

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on the eighth, we must show that

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that is not the case. And then Moscow’s enormous budget

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will also work for

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people with disabilities. But look, 1.6

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trillion—we give to people with disabilities, fine, legal

20:34

aid and the police, but we cannot buy medicines.

20:36

People with disabilities have to buy their own medicines.

20:39

Even though I can see that the Moscow budget has

20:41

enough money to

20:43

pay for proper prescription drug

20:45

insurance, so that a person with a disability could receive

20:48

medicine and the insurance

20:49

company would pay for it. We can do this. I know

20:52

how to do it. We wrote it into

20:54

our program, we understand it, but it is simply

20:56

something no one needs. That is why we need to go to

20:59

the polls and solve problems comprehensively. In our city, unfortunately, there is no such thing as

21:02

a separate issue of

21:04

people with disabilities or pensioners.

21:05

There is a broader problem: the authorities

21:07

do not care about any residents at all. So

21:10

on the eighth, let’s come out and show

21:11

that we do care. Please, let me

21:13

give you the microphone.

21:17

Alexei, good afternoon. My name is Grigory

21:19

I have a question about personnel, actually.

21:22

You constantly complain

21:25

that, so to speak, Putin’s friends are

21:27

pulled into positions of power, into the vertical of power, and so on.

21:29

And yet your campaign is headed by Volkov.

21:33

I follow his interviews and, in fact,

21:35

his statements, and in particular

21:37

even his comments about your business in Montenegro.

21:40

My question is this. He,

21:42

uh, let’s say, because

21:44

he is a programmer—maybe not of world-class

21:46

caliber, yes, but still a programmer—uh, his

21:48

answers are far removed from, let’s say,

21:50

diplomacy, from any kind of polished debate. Maybe

21:53

his responses should be adjusted a bit, and

21:56

in general, if these are the kinds of people you bring in, then

21:59

how exactly will your team be formed

22:00

going forward?

22:02

Well, you understand, I am also accused of

22:04

making harsh statements.

22:07

Sobyanin, for example, also wants

22:08

diplomacy from me. For example, he says to me:

22:11

"Why are you, Navalny, digging through my

22:13

dirty laundry? My daughter is being bought apartments for

22:16

100 million rubles, and you are making complaints:

22:19

‘Come on, be more diplomatic.’ I do not

22:20

know—do you want me to be more

22:22

diplomatic?

22:23

No,

22:23

I genuinely believe that it is my absolute

22:26

right, as a Muscovite, to know with what money

22:29

an official who has spent his whole life

22:32

as a bureaucrat bought one daughter

22:34

an apartment for 116 million rubles and another for 170 million.

22:37

If I am told, ‘Be more diplomatic,’ and

22:39

not to touch these issues, then I will not be

22:41

diplomatic. And so, of course, in

22:44

a situation where, you know, I have already received

22:46

three complaints just now

22:49

saying that the police are working poorly

22:51

in your district. Here

22:53

there are three police buses standing here. Your entire

22:56

district police force has come here to guard our

22:59

rally. What kind of, uh,

23:03

what words am I supposed to

23:05

find for that? Yes, I restrain my language

23:08

when I know the crime rate,

23:11

the rate of serious crimes, the rate of

23:13

rapes in the district, but the entire

23:16

district police force came here

23:18

to watch me speak here into

23:20

a microphone. That is why I will speak plainly

23:23

and say everything I think about this government,

23:25

and the members of my team will also speak

23:27

completely plainly.

23:28

May I ask a follow-up?

23:29

Yes, please. Go ahead.

23:31

Thank you, Alexei. My first question is:

23:33

At what moment did you clearly realize that

23:35

your calling was to be a politician?

23:38

I am just curious when that happened. And

23:39

my second question is about Moscow. It is

23:42

clearly expanding beyond the Moscow Ring Road now.

23:44

They have already added so-called New Moscow. Well,

23:47

the issue of merging federal subjects keeps coming up.

23:49

What is your position on that question?

23:53

The moment when I definitely felt that I wanted

23:55

to be a politician? Well, I have had many

23:57

such moments. I can tell you about

23:59

a recent one, one of the latest

24:01

moments when I absolutely, simply

24:03

felt something inside me—I do not know, everything

24:05

just boiled over—and I understood with complete certainty

24:07

that I had to run in the elections. It was when, once again,

24:09

I went, for example, to

24:11

Rosneft and confronted it with

24:14

complaints that they had stolen

24:15

everything there, and there sat this woman,

24:18

the vice president for legal affairs,

24:21

at the state-owned company Rosneft. So,

24:23

what do you think the salary might be

24:25

of a vice president at the state-owned

24:27

company Rosneft?

24:28

78,000

24:31

Well, a million rubles

24:32

a million rubles

24:33

less

24:34

per day

24:35

15 million

24:36

per day

24:37

10 million

24:39

30,000 rubles

24:40

30,000 rubles.

24:43

So, I heard the correct answer here:

24:45

880 million rubles a year.

24:49

A state-owned company. And I come in,

24:51

and when I make yet another complaint,

24:53

saying that you have stolen everything here, and

24:55

that yet another one of your construction projects costs 10 times

24:57

more than it should, they look at me and say:

25:00

‘What makes you think, Navalny, that

25:02

we owe you any explanation at all? Why on earth’

25:04

What makes you think that you, and people like you,

25:06

are owed anything by us? What makes you think that

25:09

we, these great statesmen,

25:12

have to explain ourselves to anyone? We don't owe

25:14

you any explanations. Get lost! And in court you'll

25:17

lose to me, because my husband

25:19

appoints these judges in the Presidential Administration

25:20

(the executive office of the Russian president), and court bailiffs won't get

25:23

near me. Even when I win a case

25:25

against Transneft, they don't let

25:27

the bailiffs through the door. So when

25:30

I come face to face with

25:32

these people, who are basically just

25:34

random con artists who have wormed their way in,

25:38

collecting official salaries of 1 billion rubles a year

25:40

(about $10 million) a year, looking me straight in the eye

25:42

and brazenly telling me that I have no

25:43

say here, and that people like me have no

25:44

say either, I understand that I have to run in

25:47

elections, because this government has to be changed

25:49

or else we'll be left with

25:51

nothing at all. Otherwise, they've already pumped out

25:54

$3 trillion worth of oil and sold

25:56

it. We got nothing. They'll extract another $3

25:58

trillion. I'm 37 years old now. And

26:01

when I'm 67, I'll still be

26:04

walking around telling my neighbors

26:05

that I was robbed. That's why

26:07

I'm running in this election now so that,

26:09

when I'm much older,

26:12

I'll know that I did everything I could

26:14

to change this government and

26:16

to make it answer to the people

26:18

and to people like me. And the second question

26:20

was about the federal subjects of Moscow and Moscow

26:22

Region.

26:23

Moscow Region is an excellent question.

26:25

It's a perfect example of how all sorts of

26:28

inexplicable things happen in the city.

26:30

Now remind me, please, who

26:32

made the decision to annex New

26:34

Moscow?

26:35

It's unclear.

26:36

Medvedev.

26:37

For what purpose?

26:38

Because the idea was to annex it, or rather,

26:40

to move the federal government bodies

26:42

there. Right?

26:44

They announced it, passed a law under which

26:46

in New Moscow land can be taken

26:48

away from residents. In fact,

26:49

it's now easier to seize land there

26:51

than it was from anyone in Sochi. Two months ago

26:53

they said, no, we're not moving government bodies

26:55

to New Moscow. Then Sobyanin said:

26:57

"We, we are moving City Hall." Then he said:

26:59

"No, we're not moving City Hall." It's complete

27:02

nonsense. There are no calculations, no analysis.

27:04

It's just that some people woke up one morning

27:06

and said, "Well, let's just

27:08

go ahead and annex New

27:10

Moscow." The investment in New Moscow's transport

27:13

infrastructure alone will cost

27:15

us $82 billion. And the population there is tiny.

27:19

If you take Novogireyevo and Ivanovskoye,

27:21

more people live here than in

27:23

all of New Moscow. And the residents of New

27:25

Moscow themselves don't need any of this. I want

27:27

to become the kind of mayor who calculates first

27:30

and spends money afterward. Because, you see,

27:33

the decision about New Moscow will determine

27:35

the city's development for decades. Why are

27:38

these important decisions, which affect

27:40

millions of people and the development

27:42

of the city far into the future, being made

27:44

by just two random people, with no

27:47

planning, without even the most basic calculations? And

27:49

as for moving federal government

27:51

bodies in connection with New

27:53

Moscow, we have a very good recent

27:55

example. Which government body was

27:57

moved out of Moscow?

27:58

The Constitutional Court.

27:59

The Constitutional Court. Where was it moved?

28:01

St. Petersburg.

28:01

To St. Petersburg.

28:03

So, in St. Petersburg they built a palace. Well,

28:05

they renovated a palace for the

28:07

Constitutional Court. In St. Petersburg, every

28:09

judge of the Constitutional Court was bought

28:10

an apartment. Every judge of the Constitutional

28:12

Court was bought a dacha (country house). And now

28:14

the Constitutional Court holds its sessions in

28:16

Moscow and calls it an off-site session

28:18

of the Constitutional Court.

28:20

It would be funny if we hadn't spent

28:21

hundreds of millions of dollars on it.

28:23

That's why I want to become a mayor

28:25

who does not make decisions

28:27

that way. First we calculate everything.

28:31

Maybe we spend years

28:33

working through and calculating such key decisions, and

28:35

only then do we start spending even a single kopeck

28:36

of money, because it's our money, and we have

28:38

plenty of places to spend it: education,

28:40

healthcare, raising pensions. So

28:42

first we calculate, then we spend.

28:44

Please.

28:44

A question about those years, actually. May I?

28:46

About what?

28:46

About the years.

28:47

Go ahead.

28:48

Moscow is a big city, with many problems, and as you

28:50

rightly said, solving them can take

28:51

years. We've also heard about your

28:54

presidential ambitions. Maybe you didn't

28:56

say it yourself, but we've heard it. And in

28:59

2018 there will be a presidential election,

29:00

possibly even earlier. So are you planning to stay

29:03

on as mayor of Moscow for long?

29:04

Five years.

29:05

Five years. Moscow.

29:07

First of all, Moscow is where I live.

29:10

I've lived here for 17 years already.

29:12

I'm not planning to go anywhere.

29:15

What is the mayor of Moscow? It's the third most

29:17

important political office in the country. And

29:20

if I, as a politician, set myself

29:22

the goal of changing life in the country for the better,

29:24

then I will fight for important

29:27

political offices and focus on

29:28

important elections that truly

29:30

change life in the country. That is why we

29:32

wrote on our poster: "Change

29:34

Russia, start with Moscow." Because, well,

29:36

the country is structured in such a way that any

29:39

political changes in Russia will happen or not

29:41

happen depending on whether Muscovites want them

29:43

or not. There is no other way.

29:47

The fight for the post of Mayor of Moscow is a fight

29:49

for Russia’s political future, in fact

29:52

perhaps no less important

29:54

than the presidential election. And that is exactly how I view

29:57

it.

29:59

That is why I will take part in any

30:01

important elections. In any case, my

30:03

work will serve the interests of

30:05

Muscovites and all residents of Russia,

30:08

because I am just as much a Muscovite and

30:10

just as much a resident of Russia. I simply

30:12

want to solve the problems that I know

30:14

how to solve, and I absolutely will solve them

30:16

if I win this election.

30:19

You are welcome,

30:21

My name is Sergei, I am 18 years old. I

30:24

wanted to ask about a problem like

30:27

beggars with animals, because

30:30

about 3 days ago I encountered this

30:32

problem. We went up to an elderly woman, um,

30:37

who had a miserable puppy with her. It is just,

30:40

you know, very painful to see these dogs,

30:43

and cats in such terrible condition,

30:46

they are not fed, no one really

30:48

looks after them. And

30:49

there is no law, right. And the question was this:

30:52

are you planning to do something

30:55

about this, maybe something regarding Article 245

30:58

and a second question.

30:59

Well, listen, beggars with animals are one thing,

31:02

but we also see the same kind of

31:03

beggars with children.

31:05

And it is not even clear where these children

31:06

come from. There is no need to invent

31:08

anything here. What is happening is

31:10

an administrative offense. Everything

31:12

we need to do in general regarding

31:15

begging is treat it as an administrative

31:16

offense. When I become mayor, I

31:18

will do one very simple thing: make sure that

31:21

your district police are not guarding, as

31:23

they are right now in full force at this rally,

31:25

not sitting in buses and not

31:27

bringing three police vans here, but instead

31:28

doing their job of stopping

31:30

administrative offenses. This

31:31

applies to everything, from

31:33

Dagestani weddings with celebratory gunfire

31:35

to those very same beggars.

31:37

Right now the police are simply performing the functions

31:40

of political surveillance, or else

31:42

they are busy falsifying

31:43

their statistics just to

31:45

secure themselves a comfortable

31:46

existence. What should the police do in a city?

31:48

Protect residents, maintain

31:52

public order. When I become mayor,

31:54

I will make them do what they are supposed

31:56

to do under the rules, because I will do

31:58

what I am supposed to do under the rules. It is my

32:00

direct duty, and I will make it happen.

32:02

Let us take a question from this side. Go ahead.

32:04

Good afternoon. My name is Tatyana. I have

32:06

a practical question. Entuziastov Highway

32:08

has been under repair for more than 4 years. We cannot, we

32:11

just cannot drive there. We have simply switched to

32:15

the metro. Will you oversee

32:17

road construction in Moscow, and Entuziastov Highway

32:19

in particular, first of all? Thank you.

32:22

This is some kind of construction nightmare.

32:24

Oh yes. The problem of roads in Moscow is a

32:27

colossal problem. Who is the main

32:29

road construction contractor in Moscow

32:30

right now?

32:32

Rotenberg. Exactly. These

32:34

rather dubious guys who in

32:36

Soviet times were Putin’s judo partners,

32:38

then somehow amazingly

32:40

ended up supplying large-diameter pipes

32:42

to Gazprom. Now they have dropped their pipes and

32:44

run to Moscow to build

32:46

roads for us. That is why it turns out that

32:48

something like the North-Western Chord costs

32:51

70 billion rubles, and all builders and

32:53

transport specialists say with one voice that

32:55

it is twice as expensive. In the construction of the

32:57

North-Western Chord

32:58

35 billion will be stolen. That is more than enough

33:01

to build outpatient clinics

33:03

and schools all across Moscow. That is why it is my

33:05

top priority to deal with

33:08

this entire construction mafia. In fact,

33:10

there are really three companies that have created

33:12

a monopoly and simply taken all the biggest

33:15

contracts: the North-Western Chord,

33:17

the North-Eastern Chord, the Southern Rokada,

33:19

the Alabyano-Baltiysky Tunnel,

33:21

the reconstruction of Leninsky Prospekt. These are

33:23

all absolutely mafia-style schemes. And the purpose

33:25

of these projects is one thing only: to siphon off money.

33:27

That is why it is my top priority,

33:29

as mayor, to deal with this mafia. I am

33:31

absolutely certain that my first

33:33

steps to destroy the monopoly and

33:35

restore competition will bring

33:38

road construction costs down to the pan-European

33:40

level, which means twice as cheap

33:42

as they are now in Moscow. And we will be able to build

33:44

much faster and much more with the same

33:47

money we already have. That is something I

33:49

will most definitely do.

33:50

Thank you.

33:51

You are welcome,

33:54

Alexei, hello. My question is this:

33:58

my vote is automatically in your piggy bank

34:01

simply because my heart is with you, but still, what will you

34:04

do if you do not get

34:06

a sufficient number of voters,

34:10

enough votes in these

34:12

elections?

34:15

Well, first of all, no pessimism. We are

34:17

a hair's breadth away from a runoff. If

34:19

each of us makes even a minimal effort,

34:21

persuades five people, comes

34:23

to the polling station, there will

34:25

definitely be a runoff, and in the runoff

34:27

we will win, because in the runoff

34:29

those who voted

34:30

for the Communists, for Yabloko, and so on, will vote for me, while

34:33

Sobyanin will not have that kind of mobilization in the runoff.

34:35

That is the first point. Second. What am I doing now?

34:38

I have an Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF).

34:40

Unfortunately, unfortunately,

34:43

the number of tasks facing the Foundation

34:45

for Fighting Corruption in Russia is so great

34:47

that I will not get through them all

34:49

in the foreseeable future. So I have plenty

34:51

to keep me busy. I will continue conducting my

34:54

investigations, and I will rely on you.

34:56

I will build a political force

34:58

that will rest on hundreds, thousands,

34:59

perhaps millions of people who, just like

35:01

me, want normal

35:03

change, who, just like me,

35:05

understand basic things, understand

35:07

that political competition is necessary,

35:09

that we need independent courts, we need free

35:11

media.

35:14

I plan to win this election. I

35:16

plan to stay involved in political

35:17

activity. I plan to fight for

35:19

the office of president. I plan to win. I

35:22

plan, together with you, to build a better

35:24

life, the kind of life all of us need. My friends,

35:27

I am very afraid that I will get fewer

35:31

votes in the Novogireyevo and

35:32

Ivanovskoye districts because you will all come down with

35:34

pneumonia.

35:35

From here on, I would like to answer

35:37

questions individually. I simply want

35:38

to thank you for standing here and listening to me for 40 minutes.

35:42

Thank you very much. I would very much like to have, in you,

35:44

the support of people who

35:48

will bring other people to the polling stations.

35:49

I am absolutely certain that we

35:51

will win. Thank you very much. Hooray!

35:53

Novogireyevo. Hooray!

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