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Hello everyone. Moscow, 20:18. Alexei in the studio.

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Navalny, or

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a rebel, a rebel — that’s what

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a certain political analyst, Sergei Starovoitov, called me. Hell if

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anyone knows who he is, but he came up with this funny

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quote: “We have entered an era

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of vertical power. There is no more opposition,

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there is only power,

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there are rebels, and every one of

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the political players has to decide

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whether they are with the authorities or with the rebels.” And

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decoded,

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that means Navalny, terrorists, and others like them. So

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make up your minds, my friends: are you with

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the authorities or with the rebels? And of course I

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am calling on you to come over to the side

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of the rebels. Come join the rebels — we’ve

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got cookies. On July 1, in 27 cities, and

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on June 30 in Irkutsk, there will be protests against

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raising the retirement age. In

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the description of this video there’s a link — go

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there, find your city, and take part. We’ll talk about this

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about the retirement age, the battle over

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the retirement age, a little later.

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I want to start with the fact that it didn’t work out again.

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On the last program I said that we had almost

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reached the point where, for the first time in a year and a half, we

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would have no one under arrest. One

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person had been arrested, he was supposed to serve seven

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days, get out, and by the next program I

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would finally be able to say: everyone is free. And it almost

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happened. But Vladimir Dubrovsky

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let me down this time. He’s our coordinator

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from Vladivostok. He had served — how long was it, I

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don’t remember — ten or fifteen days.

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He got out, and right at the threshold he was detained and

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jailed again for ten — no, eight, sorry,

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for eight days for insulting — for insulting

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a police officer. When they started выяснять

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exactly how he had insulted the police officer,

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they told him — I’m not joking — “Right now, on

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your VKontakte wall there is a song posted

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that insults a police officer,

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so it’s eight days under arrest.” That’s all. They’re

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naturally

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very interesting, and we’re just dying

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of curiosity: what kind of song could that be

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on VKontakte that could insult a police officer

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so badly that a person gets locked up for

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eight days. But

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who knows — apparently they’re afraid, and

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of course this song will instantly become

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so popular that it will be on the wall in

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everyone’s VKontakte account, including

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police officers. I don’t know — chanson? What could it

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possibly have been? Probably not chanson, because

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the main consumers of chanson

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in our country are police officers.

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They listen to it far more than any

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representatives of the criminal world,

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former inmates, and so on. Anyway, I don’t know.

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When our Vladimir Dubrovsky gets out,

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we’ll ask him to conduct a careful

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screening of his posts and music on

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VKontakte so we can finally find this

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super-song that in Russia gets you jailed

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for eight days. In Moscow, some kind of election is going on,

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some kind of election, and people ask me about it

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and say, “Alexei, what do you

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think about the Moscow elections?”

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It’s very hard

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to even notice that any kind of election is happening

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in Moscow. I spent a month living in

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“grandma mode.” What does “grandma mode” mean? It

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means you’re cut off from the internet,

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from social media, and from your quick-witted

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grandkids who might come by and

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tell you what’s going on in

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the country these days. In other words, I was sitting in a cell, I

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read newspapers.

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I read all the newspapers. They brought in five, six,

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maybe ten newspapers every day, and I listened

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to the radio. Well, a grandma — what does a grandma do now?

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She watches TV. I didn’t have a TV,

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so all right, I was in semi-

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grandma mode. And I want to tell you that in

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semi-grandma mode

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it is almost impossible to notice that in

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Moscow, the largest city in Russia,

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the largest city in Europe, some kind of

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election campaign is underway. But sometimes on Echo

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of Moscow (a Russian radio station)

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they would report something like, well, Ilya Yashin has put himself forward,

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and Sergei Mitrokhin with Yabloko (a liberal political party), something

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or other, and there’s some kind of internal squabble going on.

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At first it was interesting, then less so,

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then not interesting at all, and no one

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is following it. And probably I’m one of

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the few people in Russia still curious

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about what’s happening in the Yabloko party, because

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I was a member of the party for many years.

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I know all the people there, but even

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I’ve stopped following it.

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So that’s what it’s like: in Moscow

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some kind of election is happening. I don’t really

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want to praise anyone, and of course on this broadcast

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if in the previous Moscow election

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some other politician had taken part,

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I would probably compare the current

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election campaign and the situation to some

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other person. But as it is, I’ll have to

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compare it to myself, sorry, because I

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was a candidate for mayor of Moscow four years

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ago. And I ran a simple experiment. Today is

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June 28, and on June 28 —

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tomorrow my brother gets out of prison,

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a bright day, June 29. So today is the 28th, and I

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just went online and decided

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to see what we were doing on June 28. Maybe

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we had a lull then too, especially since four

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years ago

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the election was sudden, a snap election; it was

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just suddenly announced on June 4 — on my birthday, no less —

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they announced that Sobyanin had stepped down

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from the post of mayor of Moscow in order to run

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again

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for mayor of Moscow, and so from the 4th onward we were doing something.

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the 28th, and probably the other candidates too

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who had been preparing for these elections for years

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because for them this isn’t just another routine one right now

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they should have done much more, properly

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much more. In fact, not even on the 28th—on June 27, we

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announced it. I’ll show you the news item now

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so you don’t think that I

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lied to you when I said we had already opened a headquarters for

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volunteers. We got to work. These

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photos are coming up—this is our headquarters for

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volunteers, which we had built up over the years, and it instantly

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started filling up with people. We opened it

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on the 27th. So, well, I don’t know whether

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any of the Moscow mayoral candidates now

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have anything like that—a place where

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people are swarming, volunteers are coming in, and everyone

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knew the address: 22 Lyalin Lane. And now

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you can easily google a million

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of the coolest, most vivid

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photos from there.

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But right now I don’t see any

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candidates

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opening public campaign offices. But again, it’s not

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that I’m trying to say, “I ran a great

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campaign, and these people aren’t running campaigns.”

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Actually, that is what I want to say: yes, we

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ran a great campaign. I’m proud of everyone

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who worked on my campaign, and these people now

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aren’t campaigning at all—there’s absolutely nothing

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noticeable.

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Not even a little. I decided, out of nostalgia, it would be nice

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to look back at what we did back then. They’re

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all filing their documents now—I typed into YouTube

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you can do the same—“Navalny

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files documents as a candidate for Moscow mayor,” and you’ll

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see this video. Let’s watch 38

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seconds of me filing documents when

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I was running for Moscow mayor exactly

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four years ago.

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Oh, the signatures are falling.

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I’m off to file them, and meanwhile you think about what

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we’ll do if they don’t accept them from me.

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My team corrected me while the clip was playing: it was five

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years ago, not four years ago.

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Time flies.

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But that’s how I filed my documents. Google it

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now: “2018 Moscow mayoral candidate

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filing documents,” and you’ll find a

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photo like this of Dmitry Gudkov.

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There’s a bit of a difference. It’s not

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that I’m demanding Dmitry Gudkov

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absolutely has to come with a huge crowd of people

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and volunteers to file his documents.

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The other candidates don’t even have

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a photo like that. But it seems to me this is

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a pretty vivid and obvious example

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of the fact that they’re doing nothing, quietly—and that means

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there are no real Moscow mayoral elections, to my

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great regret. I absolutely am not

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planning to, and definitely really do not want to,

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boycott the Moscow mayoral election.

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I really don’t want to boycott a second

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election in a row, and we shouldn’t boycott

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a second election in a row. But guys, if you’re not even doing

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the bare minimum in the election itself

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or in the political struggle, then I’d like

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to see at least some political struggle from

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these candidates against Moscow mayor

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Sergei Sobyanin, because we know that

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a significant number of Muscovites

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are against Sobyanin, against United

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Russia. Moscow is probably, in Russia,

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the best city in which to run

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an opposition election campaign.

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I want them to run one. Yashin, up until

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the point when he

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realized that he still wouldn’t get through

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the municipal filter (the requirement to collect signatures from municipal deputies to be allowed on the ballot), was running that kind of

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election campaign on at least some

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scale. I was glad about that, and on this

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broadcast I always praised Yashin for it. But now, dear other candidates,

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now, dear other candidates,

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I demand that you engage in

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political struggle, because closer to

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the election I know what will start, it will start:

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“Why is Navalny ignoring our

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election campaign? Why

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isn’t Navalny tweeting about us? Why

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isn’t he doing this or that?” And after the election,

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when they all get 2 percent each,

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they’ll start whining, the way Sobchak did, the way

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everyone else did after the presidential

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campaign: “Why didn’t Navalny say anything

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about us? We got two

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percent because Navalny didn’t urge

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his supporters to vote for us, because he did nothing.”

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So here is an official appeal to

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all Moscow mayoral candidates: I will

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call on everyone to come, I will

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call on everyone to vote. But guys, please

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give us some political struggle.

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Show the voters that you are

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fighting.

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Sobyanin, Sergei Semyonovich—it’s clear that

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the municipal filter is impossible to get through

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without help from United Russia.

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But five years ago, every single day

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I wrote a report on how many signatures

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I had collected. I sat there with the phone myself

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calling these municipal deputies.

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At our headquarters we had this big wall chart hanging up—now

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we’ll remind you what it looked like—on

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which you could see how many deputies there were,

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how many we had called, who had

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promised us

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their vote, who still hadn’t promised,

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who we could approach and persuade,

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and who was impossible. In other words, I myself, together with

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the headquarters, together with our great team,

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collected a large number of signatures.

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So what’s the situation now? They say, “We’ll go

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to United Russia.” Of course, go to United

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Russia, demand

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that it give you the signatures you need.

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We don’t recognize the municipal filter anyway.

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As for the municipal filter, who even cares who it is.

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Where those signatures will come from is another matter, but I’d like

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for us to get some kind of information about

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what exactly you’re doing, right.

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There are, like, around 8 million voters here,

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and if you want to compete

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for votes, give us something.

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Nothing is happening. I don’t even know whether there will be

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a candidate from the Yabloko party at all—this

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weird situation where Mitrokhin is suing

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his own party, and the party is suing Mitrokhin,

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or they’re trying to remove him and not

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nominate any candidate at all. Well, Rusakova seemed

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to be a decent candidate for them, almost

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I can’t really see what Gudkov is doing. Then there’s

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that strange candidate named Krasovsky,

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who is actually the most useful candidate, by the way.

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The most useful candidate because, well,

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he’s an absolutely hopeless crook and

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a political hack, but still the most

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useful candidate so far, because

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we can look at the photos and

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write down everyone involved in his

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campaign headquarters, put them into some kind of

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Excel spreadsheet called

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“Disgusting Crooks and Their Crew,” and

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never deal with these people again.

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By the way, the overwhelming majority,

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as far as I could tell, the overwhelming

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majority of the people on that campaign are

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former Sobchak campaign staff. In fact,

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he himself is basically former Sobchak staff, and we can see

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this pattern: if in the

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presidential election

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Putin needed a caricature

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liberal candidate and they found Sobchak, then now,

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one level lower—or higher, depending how you look at it—

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well, no, not higher, but you know what I mean,

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one level lower,

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the Moscow mayor’s office needs a candidate who

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is a parody of a caricature

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of a liberal—and that’s Krasovsky for you. But

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again, I’ll repeat:

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the best, most useful content you can get is to

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simply make an inventory of the most

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disgusting crooks working in

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his campaign. So I’ve gotten a lot of questions

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about whom I’m going to

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support, whether I’ll go, whether I’ll come

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out to vote. My short answer is this, at the end

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of my long ramble:

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I want to go to the polling station, I

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urge everyone to vote. These are elections

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that could go to a second round, so in

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principle, voting for anyone except

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Sobyanin lowers his rating. The main thing

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is to keep him from winning in the first round. I’m ready

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to campaign for candidates, I’m ready

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to talk about what great things they could do—

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they just need to actually do those

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great things. And I urge all of you

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to put pressure on these candidates,

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to tell them: guys, either you actually do something,

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or we’ll consider you spoilers and stooges.

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And the fight over the pension age—

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it really is a fight. We can see that

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this is the main political process in Russia

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right now. Every day, even rallies not organized by us

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are taking place. Today in

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Novosibirsk there were more than 1,000 people;

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yesterday there were crowds in Siberian cities, today in

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Irkutsk. Across the country, despite bans,

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there are rallies much larger than

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there had been before. There are two very

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important dates ahead. The first is July 1, when

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there will be rallies in 27 cities

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organized by us. On June 30 there will be a rally

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in Irkutsk.

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In some cities, the rallies are not

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organized by us; there’s a list, and a link to the list

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is in the description of this video. Be sure to

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take part, because, basically,

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the Kremlin’s plan—their strategy and tactics—

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is simple. Look: they have put forward

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the harshest, most vicious proposal,

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raising the retirement age to 65 for men and

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63 for women. Now they are waiting and

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watching our reaction, and they’re waiting for July 1.

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What matters is how many people

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will come out, and

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they care how many people will come out too. If

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a lot of people turn out, then on July 18

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they’ll probably introduce at least a somewhat softer

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bill.

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If, as it seems to them, not that many people

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turn out, then on July 18 they’ll submit

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the harshest version—the very same

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bill—and then they’ll wait

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until September to see whether the situation heats up by

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September, whether any politicians will

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join in, whether you and I will be actively

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involved, and

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whether there will be public outreach on these issues, resistance,

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and defense of our rights. Based on that,

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in September they’ll either adjust it

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down to 63 for men and 60

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for women, or, if we are not

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active, they’ll leave this super-

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predatory provision in place. Even 63 for

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men and 60 for women is just as

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outrageously exploitative—absolutely exploitative.

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That needs to be understood.

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We need to do explanatory outreach, and we are doing it

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as best we can. I’ve been recording videos about the pension

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age all day long. I

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put out my video—you saw it, the one with

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the funny beard. Vladimir Milov released

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a video where he explains everything in great

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detail and lays out our constructive

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agenda.

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Today Kira Yarmysh released a video

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on what is actually a crucial topic,

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namely that women are the ones who, to the

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greatest extent, are being robbed

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and

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hit hardest by the increase in the pension

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age, because

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Why do we keep talking about men?

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Men, generally speaking, don’t live to 64,

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we won’t make it, while women will live to 64,

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according to all the statistics.

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But their lives will be very poor, and

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women certainly cannot find

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work in their 60s; at 55, and even at 50, it’s nearly impossible

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for a woman to find a job, and that is where

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the enormous deception lies. They

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tell these unfortunate women,

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who are supposed to keep working from 55 to 63,

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they say, “Ma’am, go work,” but the woman

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has nowhere to work. There are no jobs, even in a big city, and

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in a small town, a woman will never

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find a job at all. Ask your

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grandmother, your mother—or you know it yourselves

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perfectly well. Go to any website where

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jobs are listed. That’s why we

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will campaign against this. There is also a campaign being waged against us:

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all the newspapers

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are packed, absolutely packed, with

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these websites,

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with various articles about how

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wonderful the increase in the retirement

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age is. Or, by the way,

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articles saying that these liberals,

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that Navalny also once wanted

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to raise the retirement age. And just

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a couple of hours before our broadcast, this

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one of the

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online outlets, *CIT Journal*, published

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a whole investigation. They

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found—and wrote a whole piece about—

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a company that is engaged in

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placing this paid-for nonsense claiming that

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Navalny also once supported it,

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that Navalny was on the same side as Putin and

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Medvedev, that he supported raising

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the retirement age. It’s taken out of

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context—a single phrase from

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the platform of the Progress Party, the

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People’s Alliance Party.

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You should understand that all of this is, of course,

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a complete lie. Over the last

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year and a half, I’ve traveled all over the country, everywhere

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I’ve spoken, and everywhere I was asked about

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the retirement age. Our position is absolutely clear: we

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unequivocally believe it cannot be raised, given

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life expectancy.

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As for the Progress Party’s platform,

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well, there we wrote that it was necessary

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to encourage a voluntary increase in

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the retirement age—when a person

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is told: you can retire now,

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at 60, and receive 15,000 rubles, or you can

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retire at 62 and receive more.

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Voluntarily—decide for yourself. That is what we

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proposed. In any case, these

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proposals

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were tied to an increase in life

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expectancy. The proposal explicitly begins: when

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life expectancy rises, then it will be possible

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to do this and that. But

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life expectancy is not rising. I’ve

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recorded videos for 44 regions. If you

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live in one of those regions, you will probably

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soon see this as YouTube advertising,

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where I speak. And this is for those

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regions where life expectancy on average

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is less than 65 years—that is,

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the average man there does not,

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in fact, live to retirement. And there are at

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least four regions where men do not even

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live to 60—the current

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retirement age. Take, for example,

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the Republic of Tuva (a federal republic in southern Siberia).

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Fifty-eight—the average life expectancy for men is 58.

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That’s a young man. And that is the average, the average

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age at death. So we simply cannot

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stay silent; people need to get involved.

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Public opinion is completely and

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entirely on our side. Absolutely everyone in the

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country is against Putin and Medvedev’s plans.

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And our task right now is to

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bring these people out into the streets,

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so that they speak out and express their outrage.

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Please, let’s do this very

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actively. Meanwhile, let me first

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answer a few questions. I see Vorobyov

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asking: Nikolskaya Street has been completely

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closed off. Do you think this will change

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the festive mood in the country and among fans,

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including foreign fans who came for the World Cup?

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Nikolskaya Street—

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I was promoting it on Instagram,

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I was talking it up on this program too, and

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I myself was skeptical at first, when I saw the

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photos and videos, but I went there a couple of times,

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and it was the best thing to happen in Moscow in

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recent years. It really was

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a street-long celebration,

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a spontaneously formed place where

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huge numbers of both locals and foreigners

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were bonding, hugging, and as you walked along, you

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saw people from Iran chanting

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their Iranian chants, here people from

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Nigeria, over there Germans, over there Danes, and

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everywhere among them Russians shouting

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“Go Russia!”

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and all the rest—it was

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great. And today the news came that

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the Moscow authorities—apparently the Kremlin’s doing, since

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Nikolskaya is right next to Red Square—

22:23

well, as usual, stupid people

22:26

saw something good and decided

22:29

to break it. Nikolskaya has already been cordoned off,

22:31

there are metal detectors or barriers set up,

22:34

apparently there will be a line to get in. I mean,

22:36

what is this nonsense for, really?

22:39

This whole part of the city center

22:41

should be made completely pedestrian and

22:44

Red Square should be opened up.

22:45

A million foreigners have come here—what

22:49

do they want to do in Moscow? They

22:51

want to go to Red Square and take

22:53

selfies

22:54

with Saint Basil’s Cathedral in the background,

22:56

of course. And the city of Moscow should

22:59

to give them that opportunity in full

23:01

come by, take photos, and do it

23:05

by spending money, by buying beer, you’re putting that money

23:08

into our country’s economy

23:09

we love you, but damn, right now

23:13

our authorities are acting so stupidly that even

23:15

here it shows itself like this. Pio, Maksim

23:19

will sort you out. Again, we forgot about Denis

23:21

Mikhailov from the St. Petersburg headquarters. He is still

23:22

being held in a special detention center

23:24

forgive me for laughing, because Denis

23:28

Mikhailov is a great guy, and he really

23:32

has reached such a level

23:34

of confrontation with the crooks at the mayor’s office

23:37

of the city of St. Petersburg

23:39

that he practically never gets out of

23:41

the detention center. So Denis Mikhailov

23:43

is in the detention center — that’s become such a

23:45

constant for our headquarters. He has probably

23:48

served more time than I have, and more than Volkov

23:51

during

23:52

this election campaign. He’ll be released

23:54

in a couple of days. I hope that on

23:57

the next broadcast I’ll be able to say that Denis

23:59

Mikhailov is free and will truly continue

24:02

his fight. He has really locked horns

24:05

with these people. Well done. All residents

24:08

of St. Petersburg — Petersburgers, help

24:10

Mikhailov and our headquarters, because they are doing

24:11

great work. In a year, you’ll have elections

24:14

for local deputies, so let’s get to work

24:16

and do all of this together. And now let’s take some questions

24:19

from Twitter and see what people are asking there

24:20

write with the hashtag Navalny

24:23

2018

24:25

Dargod64 asks: might it be worth spending more time

24:29

drawing attention to the VAT increase and trying

24:32

to get it repealed? Dear Dargod, we

24:34

have discussed this quite a lot within our headquarters

24:37

A lot of people write to us saying, basically, why do you

24:38

keep talking all the time about pension

24:40

reform and say nothing about

24:42

the VAT increase

24:43

Even though that is also very important. Of course, it

24:46

is very important too: raising VAT will increase

24:49

prices across the board, and inflation will rise because of it

24:52

That’s not me saying it — the Central Bank says

24:54

they

24:55

they changed their inflation target because of

24:57

the VAT increase

24:58

But you can’t really build a broad campaign against raising VAT

25:03

because people don’t understand what

25:05

VAT is. To them, VAT is some kind of

25:08

strange thing, some tax

25:11

that some businesspeople pay

25:13

it’s not clear how. People who understand it

25:17

know, of course, that the specific feature of VAT

25:21

its economic meaning, its financial structure

25:23

is such that it is in fact a direct

25:27

increase in prices for everything at every stage

25:30

of a product’s production. So raising

25:33

VAT is a terrible thing altogether, which

25:36

the government has done from the standpoint of

25:38

raising taxes, despite the fact that during

25:40

the election campaign Putin

25:41

said that he would not raise taxes. But

25:43

it is extremely difficult to explain this to people

25:45

So VAT should be discussed

25:47

with businesspeople, with sole proprietors

25:49

with entrepreneurs, with people who

25:50

understand taxes. But with the broader

25:54

public, it probably doesn’t make much sense. But

25:58

rest assured, in two or three months

26:01

when all of this kicks in, people who do not

26:05

understand anything about VAT

26:06

will understand perfectly well how much

26:09

prices have risen because of its increase

26:11

They’ll go to the store for some milk

26:14

for food products the VAT is lower, but they’ll still go

26:16

to the store in any case for some kind of

26:19

food, goods, and so on and so forth

26:22

and then they’ll see — whoa, the prices

26:25

have gone up. And that’s when we will talk about

26:27

rising prices, we will talk about VAT

26:29

Of course, we will keep talking about this constantly

26:31

The word “pension” has become taboo

26:35

I saw a truly astonishing piece of news

26:39

from Stavropol, where they really did

26:44

in order to avoid public unrest, all media outlets

26:50

were forbidden from publishing any

26:53

critical articles about the increase in

26:55

the pension age. It is absolutely

26:58

astonishing. Even in the local

27:01

newspaper that belongs, as I understand it,

27:02

as far as I understood

27:04

to the administration, it is called

27:05

Blagodarnensky. There, a regional

27:10

government official first gathered the chief

27:12

editors and said, guys, please

27:14

don’t write anything

27:16

about raising the pension age, otherwise

27:18

there will be unrest here. But one editor-in-chief

27:20

said: you know, we already have an article here

27:22

already prepared

27:24

under the headline “Will We Even Make It to Retirement?”

27:26

It has already gone to print. Well, it’s out, nothing can be done

27:30

And the officials told him: well, what can you do

27:32

And they confiscated and destroyed the entire

27:34

print run of that newspaper because it contained

27:37

an article about pension reform

27:39

Can you imagine how afraid these people are

27:42

just imagine how much these people fear

27:45

any activity on your part, even the smallest

27:48

activity. You may think: well, at night I’ll

27:51

post some videos, some

27:54

posts, and they’ll be seen by

27:56

50 people on my friends list. And if I share it with

27:59

friends, then 500 people will see it. But how do you

28:02

think — does Blagodarnensky have

28:04

a much bigger circulation? No, these are the same

28:08

tiny

28:09

information streams. But from these

28:11

tiny information streams

28:13

a huge wave emerges that

28:18

cannot be ignored

28:20

That is exactly what needs to be done, and please do not

28:23

forget that. For the second or even

28:29

third program in a row, I have been

28:32

He asks about Shestun — he is the head

28:34

of the Serpukhov District in the Moscow Region.

28:37

He got into a very real battle,

28:40

and a highly unexpected one at that,

28:43

a battle with the FSB and people from the Presidential Administration.

28:46

And stubbornly, all through this fight, he records them

28:51

using some kind of hidden audio recorders,

28:54

and posts it all directly on YouTube,

28:57

telling the blunt truth, tearing into them, calling them all sorts of names.

29:01

They are basically just the governor

29:03

of the Moscow Region, Vorobyov,

29:05

whom he accuses of being,

29:08

well, a villain.

29:10

He accuses the Presidential Administration, he

29:13

accuses the FSB leadership, and this is really

29:16

quite something. You can see Vorobyov here now

29:18

in the photo — the governor of the Moscow Region,

29:20

who is now running for re-election, and before that

29:23

he controls all the districts and removes their heads.

29:27

He installs loyal district heads, and so he

29:31

tried to remove Shestun, but Shestun was one of

29:33

the few in the Moscow Region who said no.

29:35

And

29:36

he launched a full-scale war. What I

29:38

want to say about this is: I am not

29:41

a fan of Shestun. In fact, anyone who followed

29:44

the work of the Anti-Corruption Foundation

29:47

will easily remember the post

29:50

I wrote about Shestun

29:53

when he

29:55

started buying for his administration

29:57

some Mercedes at an absurdly

30:01

high price, and we went after Shestun

30:03

full force, making special

30:06

leaflets against him and distributing them

30:08

throughout the Serpukhov District. That is, we

30:11

were actively fighting against the head of the district administration, Shestun,

30:14

and generally speaking, we did not like him much.

30:16

And he also answered us rather brazenly. Let's

30:18

watch a 52-second video

30:21

where he says there is nothing

30:22

wrong with the car, and that he also needs

30:25

a helicopter and will buy one. I submitted to the council of deputies

30:29

of the Chekhov District administration

30:31

a request to purchase a car.

30:34

They are allocating the money for it now.

30:36

I asked for a Mercedes; that request was not approved.

30:38

We are now announcing a tender,

30:41

and I should already be choosing

30:42

the configuration. Why a Mercedes?

30:46

Because this car can handle a very

30:47

large mileage — it can do a million

30:50

kilometers, and I use it very heavily.

30:52

I can drive up to 100,000 kilometers a month

30:54

(about 62,000 miles), and on top of that I need

30:57

high speed because I

30:58

am constantly on the move, and

31:01

I need four-wheel drive as well.

31:02

I travel in winter too, whereas a Mercedes here

31:04

is rear-wheel drive. To be honest, I have even

31:07

thought about getting a small

31:09

helicopter, because sometimes in a single

31:11

day I travel around 200 kilometers

31:13

(about 124 miles) just within the district.

31:15

Why such injustice? That's why, when it comes to him,

31:20

regarding Alexander Shestun, I

31:22

am being completely objective now, because

31:25

there is a whole history of how we

31:27

fought with him as well. But I want to say

31:30

very clearly that I can see

31:33

that the case against him is fabricated, that the man

31:36

simply — I do not know who he is connected to,

31:38

some say that behind him stands the

31:40

Investigative Committee (Russia's main federal investigative body),

31:41

that he is protected by Bastrykin of the Investigative Committee,

31:43

and that is why he is not afraid to go after

31:46

the FSB brass. Others say that he

31:48

is connected with Kadyrov and with Chechens, and therefore

31:51

he is also not afraid to go after the FSB brass. The FSB

31:54

hits back hard, but I see one thing clearly:

31:57

the man wanted to run for re-election as head

32:00

of the district, and he has every

32:02

right to do so. Let him run in the election, let him

32:04

answer for his Mercedes too,

32:06

let him face uncomfortable questions,

32:09

let him lose the election or whatever else.

32:11

But apparently

32:12

the authorities realized he would not lose it, and

32:14

so they started brazenly removing him just like that. And I

32:18

hear the audio recordings — he

32:22

recorded them, you can find them on his channel — and there are

32:24

the deputy head of the Moscow Region administration

32:27

and people from the Presidential Administration,

32:29

in particular an FSB general,

32:32

who simply

32:35

says: you have to leave, we

32:40

have to appoint other people to your

32:43

position. And when he refused, his home was

32:46

searched.

32:48

He has now been arrested, he was arrested

32:51

obviously on some, well, laughable

32:53

absolutely laughable, completely

32:57

baseless grounds. But from this it is clear to me that the

33:00

system

33:01

just wants to devour him simply because he

33:04

refused to give up his post to some

33:08

people. More than that,

33:11

officials come to him and quite

33:15

openly say — as far as I understand about Shestun,

33:17

there are recordings, or at least he says so in an interview —

33:18

that they tell him directly,

33:21

well, we have promised your

33:23

position to the Podolsk people. So, do you understand?

33:27

An official comes to you — another official —

33:30

and

33:31

says, listen, you have to leave because

33:34

we promised your position to the Podolsk group.

33:36

Amazing, what can I say. It is like

33:39

one gangster on top of another, gangsters helping gangsters, and in

33:41

this gangster operation to make sure

33:44

that the Podolsk people seize the post of head

33:48

of the Serpukhov District, the FSB,

33:50

the Investigative Committee, and the judicial system are all involved.

33:54

Well, somehow this really

33:56

bothers me a lot. We should have a short video.

33:59

Oh, let's watch how FSB General

34:02

Tkachev

34:04

directly threatens him and tries to force him.

34:07

step down from office, and we’re at 44 seconds now

34:11

there isn’t any on the channel, I’m shocked, I can send a message

34:15

serves, and how is that a problem for you—for your wife?

34:19

this is a dictatorship, well, he doesn’t have long either

34:21

we’ve eaten

34:22

I’m not hosting

34:24

that’s not true, so the best

34:26

problems sometimes have the best solutions

34:28

paper

34:29

it gets resolved if you just leave it

34:31

the problem, the court, dying—this all gets resolved

34:34

it’s uneasy here, you sit calmly until

34:36

by September you step down, come on now

34:39

let’s wait, absolutely—how can this be here

34:41

like this, until the court’s decision, sort of

34:44

to back out of life then—the court lost, but

34:48

it’s clear that I’ve already lost completely

34:51

I’ll write it down on paper—it goes that the court and you

34:53

a win-win game

34:56

General Tkachev told us how

34:59

the judicial system works—well, come on

35:02

make it so the court and all of them come out winning

35:04

fine, you resign and become an adviser

35:06

you’ll be appointed, and if you don’t go, there will be

35:08

problems for your wife and your children

35:11

a general, you understand, says to an official, the head

35:13

of the administration: listen, want a problem

35:16

for your wife and children? Then right now we’ll

35:19

arrange it—you’ll lose in court, but if you

35:21

will

35:22

be a good boy and hand it over to the Podolsk group, then

35:25

you’ll win in court. I keep saying this, but

35:30

nevertheless, it must be said, well

35:34

what other arguments do you need

35:36

to fight this government? They’re bandits

35:38

bandits

35:39

idiots, crooks, con artists—a gathering of

35:43

some of the worst people—what the hell, damn it

35:46

some head

35:49

of the Serpukhov district administration, well

35:51

whether he gets elected or not

35:53

they remove him there in the course of a special operation

35:56

his family is being threatened, his children are being threatened, but what

36:00

can be said about that? Therefore

36:02

without question, Shestun—I couldn’t have imagined

36:07

that I could call him

36:09

a political prisoner—well, yes, a political prisoner

36:12

because he is imprisoned for political reasons

36:16

yes, he’s quite an unpleasant person to me

36:18

I would never have voted for him

36:20

in this election; I would have campaigned against him

36:22

probably, and if some

36:25

other candidate had come to me and said, let’s

36:26

work against Shestun, I would have said fine, he’s there

36:29

making improper purchases, buying things he had no business buying

36:31

sports Mercedes cars with

36:32

taxpayers’ money, but now he is clearly a

36:35

political prisoner, because for those

36:37

purchases he should have been held accountable precisely for

36:39

those purchases, and before his constituents. They

36:42

would simply not have re-elected him. But for some reason he

36:45

has to leave office not because of buying

36:47

Mercedes cars, but because the Podolsk group needs it

36:50

you understand—or I’ve established to get in touch with you

36:52

let me stay on a bit longer and answer questions, so

36:57

right, about VAT, I’ve already answered that—I see three

37:00

come on, show me what other

37:02

questions we have here about the historian Dmitriev

37:06

“Please say something,” someone is asking me

37:08

all right

37:09

well, it’s an absolutely monstrous story, really

37:12

a monstrous story is unfolding right now in

37:15

Karelia. I’m not doing a separate segment on it

37:17

because, generally speaking, nothing is clear

37:19

except that it’s lawlessness and a monstrous

37:21

story. There is the head of the local

37:24

Memorial branch (the Russian historical and human rights organization), Dmitriev, and he

37:26

goes around and

37:28

excavates

37:31

abandoned burial sites—he simply searches for them

37:34

the people who were once simply

37:36

shot—our fellow citizens

37:38

simply destroyed and buried somewhere out in the

37:41

forest, with no cemetery, no graves, no

37:43

information, nothing. And he has documented

37:45

the existence of several such burial sites

37:49

and documented that thousands of people

37:51

were executed during the Great Terror

37:53

and naturally, because of this

37:56

he had a serious falling-out with the local

37:58

security officials, who categorically do not like

38:00

his work, plus the fact that Memorial

38:02

is bold—and I like that organization

38:05

and so they decided to imprison him and

38:08

set about doing it in the vilest

38:11

way possible

38:11

they accused him of pedophilia, and since

38:15

now even the Supreme Court—good Lord—

38:19

the Russian Supreme Court acquitted him

38:23

on that count, and people around me are rejoicing

38:25

there was supposedly some pedophilia—some photographs

38:27

were found of his adopted daughter naked, and indecent

38:31

acts were alleged, that is, they

38:32

brought some monstrous

38:34

absolutely horrific charges against him, charges with which

38:37

it’s hard to find people who will

38:39

defend you, because people will think,

38:41

who knows, they probably wouldn’t accuse you of that

38:43

for no reason—better for us to

38:44

stay away from this case

38:47

as in a classic

38:48

FSB-style story, he was acquitted on those

38:53

counts, and the Supreme Court said that

38:55

it was nonsense, having reviewed all the case

38:57

materials, including a conversation

38:59

between a psychologist and his daughter, and all of these

39:01

materials were examined by the Supreme Court, which said

39:04

that no, this man should be released

39:08

this man, the historian Dmitriev, and he was released and

39:11

was free for about a week or two

39:13

and yesterday he was detained, and somehow

39:17

during the detention some police officers

39:18

stopped him on the highway and allegedly found

39:21

some belongings, and said, “Aha, these items were found—you

39:24

want to flee, while against you there is

39:27

once again the very same case under investigation”

39:30

and now they have arrested him for two

39:33

months

39:34

someone ended up facing similar charges over the same

39:37

materials—that is, they simply

39:40

want to show: we don’t care about

39:42

the Supreme Court, we don’t care about anything, we

39:44

want to rot you in prison. He is an elderly

39:46

man,

39:47

and he won’t survive prison, not for a long

39:51

stretch, and we understand what

39:54

a Russian prison is—especially in regions

39:56

like Karelia. We’ll rot you in

39:58

prison, and we don’t care about anything—and they are

40:01

carrying this out in a state of total lawlessness. This

40:04

man is being imprisoned.

40:05

And of course, this case needs to be watched closely.

40:07

Unfortunately, it is covered only in what

40:09

are called the liberal media, yes,

40:12

while in all the other media it is simply

40:14

forbidden to talk about such things. But, but

40:16

something monstrous is happening: they have brought

40:19

such charges against you that you know

40:21

you’ll carry them with you for the rest of your life. There will

40:22

always be someone saying: that’s the very person against whom

40:24

there either was a pedophilia case or there wasn’t,

40:26

whether it was pedophilia or all of it was made up—you’ll

40:29

spend your life running around proving to everyone: but I

40:31

really didn’t do anything. Well, somehow, maybe

40:33

it happened, maybe it didn’t—there’s no smoke without fire.

40:35

And on top of that, they just keep him endlessly in

40:37

a cell. And I watched the video of the arrest—

40:39

good Lord, the man is driving some kind of

40:41

tiny cheap foreign car,

40:44

and then they stop him, drag him out, put him in—

40:48

the whole system is occupied with this. For what? Well, this is what

40:52

we say to these people, by the way: we are going to

40:54

pay higher pensions to all these

40:56

investigators, prosecutors, FSB officers (Federal Security Service),

40:59

who are busy with nonsense instead of

41:02

investigating, there in Karelia,

41:04

corruption and actual murders,

41:06

real crimes. Instead, they chase after

41:09

this Dmitriev case, and later we will have to pay

41:12

for it.

41:14

With higher pensions—they retire early

41:16

and start receiving them ahead of time. So what is to be done?

41:20

I ask Valentinovich,

41:22

apparently: will you be meeting

41:24

your brother from the penal colony tomorrow? Of course I will.

41:25

I’ll meet my brother from the penal colony. I just don’t know—

41:27

they are always pulling tricks. Will they release him

41:29

directly from the colony, or will they

41:32

transfer him somewhere else and release him from there

41:34

so that the people meeting him won’t see him, as they

41:36

usually do—like they did with me. More often than not, they

41:38

do it even from a special detention center. The main thing is

41:40

that they release him. Of course I miss

41:43

him very much; the whole family misses him. The man spent three and a half

41:45

years behind bars simply because

41:47

he is my brother. He was held there in a fairly

41:51

harsh environment; they were constantly throwing him

41:53

into various punishments,

41:55

into solitary and

41:58

he went through all, all of those stages

42:01

of pressure that are laid out

42:04

officially in prison regulations—how

42:07

you can make a person’s life

42:09

worse. He went through that entire ladder. We

42:12

all, of course, miss him terribly.

42:18

So, our next topic is about one

42:23

person whom we were all waiting for

42:25

here in Moscow,

42:26

but he never showed up. There was a man

42:30

named Igor Kholmanskikh,

42:33

and to all of us—to me and everyone who came out to

42:38

Bolotnaya Square (a major Moscow protest site) and all the other

42:40

rallies, to huge numbers of people across

42:43

the country—this

42:44

Igor Kholmanskikh, speaking on Putin’s behalf,

42:48

said and shouted: I and the guys from

42:52

Uralvagonzavod will come and

42:55

break you all up there. Let’s watch this

42:57

legendary video.

43:00

At 31 seconds, once again, I want to say about

43:05

these rallies:

43:05

if our militia—or whatever it is called now,

43:07

the police—doesn’t know how to work, can’t

43:10

handle it, then we men are ready

43:13

to come out ourselves and defend our stability,

43:16

of course within the framework of Russian law.

43:18

Question, look.

43:20

The work of our police is clear because

43:24

of the events on the square. Come by—but not

43:30

right now, and preferably not for that reason.

43:33

And somehow we kept waiting for Igor Kholmanskikh with his

43:38

guys, wondering when he would arrive. And he was preparing,

43:40

and he created a movement called

43:42

For the Working Man, and of course he

43:48

was greatly favored by the authorities; he was

43:49

appointed presidential envoy. They simply took

43:51

some random nobody—he had been, what,

43:53

a shop foreman or something like that. Well, judging

43:55

by the way he speaks, an obvious fool—

43:57

and appointed him presidential envoy, that is, a person

44:00

who oversees the security services

44:02

and governors in a giant industrial

44:04

region. But all the locals,

44:07

even the opposition figures, didn’t really

44:08

have many complaints about him, because he

44:10

didn’t do anything—nothing at all—because

44:13

he was just, well,

44:17

a strange, not very smart person,

44:18

a random man whom they put in front of

44:21

a camera and told: just say that we,

44:23

speaking on behalf of the workers, say that all these

44:27

white-ribbon protesters, we’ll disperse them. So he

44:29

went out and mumbled this nonsense, Putin

44:32

boosted him, he was appointed, and he immediately

44:34

of course moved into some

44:36

main palace in the city of Yekaterinburg,

44:39

and lived in that envoy’s palace and basically

44:43

did nothing. And I remembered him—

44:45

why? Because he was removed from

44:48

his post. I mean, this is such an ideal

44:52

case—not even just a career, but

44:55

the whole context around that career is simply

44:58

perfect: a man from Uralvagonzavod

45:02

declares that he will come and disperse

45:04

those who are against Putin, and for that he is

45:08

appointed presidential envoy. He flies around on

45:10

on state charter planes

45:13

lives in a palace

45:14

a wonderful life in the meantime

45:16

Uralvagonzavod is literally collapsing

45:20

it has practically gone bankrupt, and the salaries there

45:23

are low

45:23

one of the most crisis-ridden enterprises

45:26

go to the arbitration court database and you

45:28

will see a huge number of lawsuits

45:31

that threaten to bankrupt

45:33

Uralvagonzavod; you can read all about it

45:35

the appalling condition

45:38

of the enterprise

45:40

by the way, in Nizhny Tagil

45:42

where Uralvagonzavod is located

45:44

male life expectancy is 62 years

45:48

that is, also

45:49

and there, men do not live to reach retirement, and

45:53

this man, who supposedly stands up for the common man

45:56

for the workers of Nizhny Tagil, he has not

45:59

done anything to improve

46:02

the lives of these people, while he himself, having first been

46:05

what he was, moved into a palace and flew around

46:07

on planes, and now he has been removed from

46:09

his post and appointed chairman

46:12

of the board of directors

46:15

of Uralvagonzavod, an enterprise whose

46:17

turnover is 132 billion rubles, and again I

46:22

read today on some local Telegram channel, and there

46:24

on some local one, yes, and it really captured

46:25

the right thought from Nizhny Tagil

46:28

they just took some random guy

46:30

who once blurted out some stupid thing and that was it

46:33

first they appointed him presidential envoy, and now to the board

46:35

of directors, where again

46:36

he will have private planes and a luxurious

46:40

life

46:40

secretaries, a huge salary there, a million

46:45

rubles a year—why? Because he

46:49

was just, you know, some clown who ran out

46:52

said something, and the tsar liked this clown

46:54

and so he had

46:57

a meaningless government career, but

46:58

once you are already in the inner circle, then you

47:01

simply have to be handed some sinecure

47:05

like Uralvagonzavod; you will sit there with this

47:07

board of directors, and you will have one this size

47:09

a leather chair, an office the size of 10

47:14

of these studios, an oak desk like

47:18

you know, in the movies, the kind from which planes could

47:20

practically fly in, and next to it a

47:22

small green table under which

47:24

two people can come up and sit down

47:26

you will have all of that

47:28

because, because you are

47:31

an incompetent person, but you really love

47:33

Putin and are ready to say all sorts of strange

47:34

things—that is what a Russian official is

47:38

the question is: can anything develop? No

47:42

how can anything in a country

47:44

develop with people like this? The question is whether

47:46

Uralvagonzavod will develop normally

47:48

of course not; how could this man, who

47:51

from being a shop-floor manager

47:52

to becoming a presidential envoy, failed at all the work there

47:55

and has now effectively become

47:57

the head of this plant—will he really be able

48:00

to manage it properly and competently? Of course

48:01

not, of course not. This is exactly the kind of

48:05

rule of the worst—negative selection

48:09

fools are promoted upward

48:12

fools are seated in these chairs and

48:14

given private planes; these fools rule over us

48:17

because fools publicly

48:20

say that those who do not want

48:23

Russia to be governed

48:25

by fools should be driven out. It is an interesting and truly

48:29

important topic, and follow it—I will

48:32

be watching how he manages this

48:34

Uralvagonzavod. There was also a great story

48:36

in Rostov Region—the funniest

48:37

the funniest story this week

48:40

happened in Rostov Region: there

48:42

an entire police precinct was dealing drugs

48:46

I mean, literally, police officers

48:47

were making dead drops, like the ones you see on

48:49

the internet in those funny photos, where someone

48:52

is walking around with some—what do you call them—

48:54

stash men, and yes, I know in quite a lot of detail

48:57

the method and how all this is done because

49:00

I am around such people all the time; they

49:02

tell me all these addict stories of theirs

49:03

I find it interesting, and I know fairly

49:07

well how this system works

49:09

so they go around burying things; I will not

49:12

go into detail—you can

49:14

find it yourselves if you want—but these stash

49:16

guys who were burying drugs and then

49:19

selling them over the internet—you

49:21

buy them and then go to some place

49:23

and dig them up—were police officers. Not one

49:26

officer, not two, but an entire police precinct

49:29

was involved in this, and they had

49:33

what was it they found there

49:35

seven kilograms of drugs and scales

49:39

special ones

49:40

that they used for all this

49:43

it was just like in a movie

49:44

like *Breaking Bad* or any other film

49:46

about drugs, with, you know, these tables

49:49

with powder on them, scales, and all that

49:51

and they are packaging everything into little bags—these

49:53

police officers were sitting there. Damn, I hope they

49:56

were doing it in uniform; I would really have liked to see

49:57

that video of them sitting there

50:00

Comrade Captain, please pass me

50:03

200 grams of batch number one, and you, Comrade

50:07

Senior Lieutenant, what is that, hashish, and

50:09

you have scattered it around—come on, do it carefully

50:12

this

50:12

and roll it into somewhat more

50:14

proper little lumps. Comrade Major, this time

50:18

said that we need to dilute

50:20

our heroin in such-and-such a proportion

50:23

and such-and-such, so come on, comrades, let us

50:25

do all this

50:27

more neatly—and there they are, sitting and doing all of it

50:29

and what I have just said is

50:32

Apparently, that’s not an exaggeration — that’s really how it was.

50:35

Probably, that’s how it really was: they called each other

50:37

“Comrade Major,” “Comrade Captain,” while

50:39

among themselves they called each other Vanya, Kolya, but

50:41

literally, police officers — an entire

50:44

department. Everyone in the department knew it. They

50:46

packaged drugs, brought in drugs, and

50:49

sold drugs to specific

50:50

users. They were caught because

50:54

the cops couldn’t help but realize that, after all,

50:57

some kind of operation was underway. Naturally, there

51:00

were drug addicts there,

51:01

and very often some of them turn out to be informants

51:03

or police agents. Someone ratted them out, and

51:05

the police came and arrested them.

51:06

They disbanded them, apparently, but what really

51:10

struck me was this: when I was reading about

51:13

it in an article, there was a comment there

51:18

from one of those high-ranking police officials

51:20

who said that “the question is being considered” of

51:22

opening a criminal case.

51:25

Seriously? “The question is being considered”? You catch some

51:30

16-year-old idiot with hashish,

51:33

one gram of it, and if he passes it on

51:36

to another idiot to smoke,

51:39

you drag that idiot off to prison for five years. You

51:42

do it simply to create so-called

51:44

performance numbers.

51:45

You catch these addicts, take them for

51:48

testing, lock them up for 15

51:50

days — I end up sitting with them afterward.

51:51

That happens instantly. But here, an entire department

51:55

was dealing drugs, and you’re “considering”

51:58

whether to open a criminal case? Come on.

52:03

The entire police force of Rostov Region should be

52:07

disbanded — and not just that, the whole Southern

52:09

Federal District: all of them should be thrown the hell

52:13

out. The entire central directorate,

52:16

everyone who deals with

52:18

drugs within the police system should be

52:21

dismissed for this. The scale of the scandal is

52:24

indescribable: a police department was selling

52:27

drugs. Who knows how long they’d been

52:29

selling them? Who knows, in the course of

52:32

this risky business, how many

52:34

people they may have killed, for example, or what else

52:37

they did? It’s always a business tied

52:40

to violence and all sorts of things like that. And they’re

52:43

“considering” whether to open a criminal

52:46

case.

52:47

No high-profile resignations, no

52:49

nationwide scandal — we see none of that.

52:51

But we should. This is just one more example

52:54

of what the Russian police are, and every

52:57

time something like this happens, it

53:00

goes beyond our idea of what is

53:02

even possible. Could we have imagined

53:05

that 400 kilograms of cocaine would be found at the embassy in Argentina

53:07

(about 882 pounds)? I

53:09

seem to recall people saying our Foreign Ministry was involved in that kind of

53:12

operation. Turns out it was possible. But you have to admit,

53:16

what a system: diplomats

53:18

supply the cocaine, and our cops distribute it here through

53:22

their departments.

53:25

“Distribute” is the right word. What a wonderful

53:29

state system — and everything is secret.

53:30

These ones have state secrets, those ones have

53:33

state secrets, and everything is kept inside

53:35

the state system, from wholesale

53:37

purchases

53:38

to those lower-level operators — it’s all run by

53:41

state employees.

53:42

And we pay them for it — with higher

53:46

and early pensions.

53:48

It’s the perfect system. I may sound like I’m joking now,

53:50

but who knows — maybe the very same

53:54

cocaine that diplomats were bringing from

53:56

Argentina was being sold too. Why not?

54:00

What couldn’t happen? What isn’t possible?

54:02

Anything can happen in the Russian system, because

54:04

the unbelievable is right there beside us. And this week I had

54:06

some absolutely

54:09

astonishing court hearings. First,

54:13

I was tried in the Simonovsky Court. You know

54:15

that I’m a twice-convicted repeat offender,

54:19

and so I have to report regularly to

54:21

the inspectorate.

54:22

Every first and third Thursday,

54:25

sometimes those first and third Thursdays

54:27

coincide with trips I have — for example,

54:30

I go on vacation with my family. Over all these years

54:32

that I’ve been reporting,

54:34

there were two or three times when I couldn’t make it.

54:37

My lawyer submitted a document saying that he

54:39

was on vacation, so he couldn’t come, but

54:43

the system is unhappy that it gave me

54:46

a suspended sentence five years ago, and now

54:49

those five years are almost over, and

54:51

under the law my suspended sentence

54:53

would expire, and that would be it — gone.

54:56

And then they wouldn’t be able to just

54:58

snatch me up at any moment and throw me in prison for five years.

55:00

They can, of course, at any moment

55:02

throw me in for three and a half years on

55:03

another case, but not for five years anymore.

55:06

That would have changed in mid-July, and so

55:09

these clowns arranged a special

55:13

court hearing for me — first the detention center, and then

55:16

this time they suddenly summoned me by subpoena. So

55:20

I hire a lawyer,

55:21

the lawyer falls ill, and

55:23

that’s a normal thing, just everyday life. I

55:26

come in and say: let’s postpone everything for

55:28

five days or so,

55:29

because my lawyer is sick. Actually, that’s not even

55:31

how it happened. I arrived, and the court already knew that

55:36

my lawyer was ill, because they had called her

55:39

and she said, “I’m on sick leave.” I come to

55:41

the court, I’m standing outside the courtroom, the room is locked,

55:44

then after a while someone comes

55:46

— a bailiff opens the room with a key. I

55:48

go into the courtroom, and sitting there is

55:50

this woman, in the place where

55:52

my lawyer should be sitting.

55:56

I ask, “Who are you?” And meanwhile a whole crowd

55:59

of journalists is coming in. And she says,

56:00

“I’m your lawyer.” Just like that: “I’m your court-appointed lawyer.”

56:04

Court-appointed. The hearing hadn’t even really started yet...

56:08

It hadn’t even started yet; no one had officially scheduled it at all.

56:11

From a formal

56:13

legal standpoint, the judge had not even yet

56:16

been able to consider the issue that

56:18

my main lawyer had fallen ill, that

56:21

the proceedings had not yet begun. I have no idea where

56:24

this lady came from—whether she had been sitting there already or came in

56:27

from the judge’s chambers through the deliberation room,

56:29

but something obviously happened.

56:30

The judge comes out, and I say, in utter

56:32

astonishment: here are the documents,

56:35

here is the medical certificate, here is everything you need.

56:38

We are postponing the hearing. Even the prosecutor

56:40

says, well, of course the hearing has to be postponed. No—

56:43

here is a court-appointed lawyer for you. Honestly,

56:46

I don’t even remember the last time I yelled at

56:48

a judge like that—and I really was

56:50

yelling. She couldn’t even have me removed

56:52

because she needed to carry through

56:55

this lawless outrage right there and then,

56:57

to extend this

56:58

probation period—which is what she ultimately

57:00

did, several times, despite the fact that

57:03

the prosecutor objected. The prosecutor

57:06

agreed that I should go to my lawyer,

57:08

my sick lawyer Olga Mikhailovna, who

57:11

was there

57:12

with radiculitis and simply could not move, and

57:14

bring back additional documents from her. No.

57:16

No, the judge said no and issued

57:19

an absolutely astonishing ruling. In the

57:21

absence of all the lawyers, there were a million

57:23

different violations.

57:25

She not only extended my

57:28

suspended sentence by a year,

57:29

she also ordered me to report to

57:32

the inspection office every Monday. That means I

57:34

now have to, every single week,

57:36

go there and check in, and I even

57:39

did the math for her there—this is absurd.

57:41

Look, it’s a 40-hour workweek in

57:43

Russia.

57:44

You want me to check in once a

57:45

week. That means five percent

57:48

of the workweek—but an hour there and an hour back

57:50

to the inspection office, I have to spend

57:53

just on traveling there. You understand

57:54

that this is impossible to comply with.

57:56

And you could read it right in her eyes:

57:59

I understand exactly why a ruling like this

58:02

is being made—so that you cannot comply with

58:04

our idiotic conditions, and we can endlessly

58:07

keep extending your suspended sentence so that you

58:09

cannot run for office,

58:11

and so that you are always on our hook; we

58:14

can put you in prison at any moment.

58:15

That was one astonishing court hearing. And the second hearing,

58:18

which I no longer made it to, was with

58:20

billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov.

58:22

I had prepared and brought for you

58:25

such beautiful things—red stripe,

58:28

blue seal, and look at these

58:31

great stamps here. These are notarized

58:35

translated Italian

58:38

documents that directly proved we were

58:42

right, and we understood that now we would

58:45

go in and win the case against Mikhail

58:46

Prokhorov, because we simply could not

58:48

lose it. We open them—you see, there’s a bookmark

58:50

placed there—and we see it says that

58:58

Mr. Khloponin, former deputy prime minister

59:02

of the government, first bought his dacha (country house) for

59:06

10 million euros,

59:08

11 million euros, and then sold it in

59:13

the next document, we see, for

59:18

35.5 million euros.

59:20

So there you have it: in one document it says

59:23

in black and white, 11 million euros,

59:25

and here it says 35.5 million

59:27

euros.

59:29

Obviously, if you sold your

59:33

house for three times its market

59:36

value, then this was not a market transaction.

59:38

It is obvious that this looks very much like

59:39

a bribe, and with these documents, basically,

59:42

we could quite reasonably have

59:44

hit Mikhail Prokhorov and the official Khloponin

59:46

over the head with it. But the court said that all the same

59:48

—and for the first time, this happened to us:

59:50

they removed

59:52

our lawyer Ivan Zhdanov from the hearing.

59:54

For what?

59:55

Well, he had various motions,

59:57

and he started reading them out. She said: read them all.

59:59

But by law, they have to be considered one by one.

1:00:02

First I ask the court for this,

1:00:04

it says denied; fine, then I ask the court

1:00:06

for that, it may deny it, and then about

1:00:09

something else—and that one may be granted. That is how

1:00:11

the process works. But the judge said: read

1:00:14

everything together. He said: I won’t do that.

1:00:17

So they ordered him removed from the courtroom, and he was removed.

1:00:19

Zhdanov was gone; one lawyer did remain, though,

1:00:21

and they issued a ruling under which I now owe

1:00:23

Mikhail Prokhorov 1 ruble.

1:00:28

Which is, of course, just wonderful. But that’s not all:

1:00:30

not only do I owe him a ruble,

1:00:31

I also have to record a special video for

1:00:35

Mikhail Prokhorov and post it on my

1:00:37

YouTube channel. It will be interesting to see how

1:00:38

the bailiffs will enforce

1:00:42

that—I don’t know. But quite possibly,

1:00:44

my friends, I may even record

1:00:47

this video myself—for Mikhail Prokhorov, for

1:00:50

Khloponin, for all these judges—in

1:00:52

accordance with the court ruling. But I have

1:00:55

a feeling that they won’t like my video

1:00:56

either. On June 30 in Irkutsk, and on July 1 throughout

1:01:02

the rest of the country, come to the

1:01:03

rallies against raising the retirement

1:01:04

age.

1:01:06

Our program will go on break until the end of

1:01:11

August or the beginning of September,

1:01:14

and we will try—in fact, we are already

1:01:17

trying to do something like a relaunch of the

1:01:20

Navalny LIVE channel, which we plan to complete by

1:01:22

September. But in any case, our

1:01:24

program.

1:01:25

As the show goes on vacation, I’m saying goodbye for

1:01:27

a longer time than usual,

1:01:30

but I hope you’ll come back to us in September.

1:01:32

Then we’ll once again be discussing

1:01:34

all sorts of serious, sad, cheerful, and

1:01:38

funny things on this program. Many

1:01:40

thanks to everyone. Goodbye.

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