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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly
20:00, 8 p.m. That means
that *Russia of the Future* is live on air,
and I’m its host, Alexei
Navalny.
Or, this week, the man whom
Armenian television is showing, and because
of that fact, Armenian television has apparently
caused Vladimir
Solovyov to explode into tiny pieces. I’ll gladly show you
47 seconds of how Armenia ceased to be
a friendly country for Vladimir Solovyov,
because they showed me. Here it is:
We love Armenia so much, such a friendly
country to us, and look whom they are showing
in friendly Armenia, with commentary
about the voting. In Armenia, they are showing on
Armenian Public Television, as part of
their reports on the voting
on the constitutional amendments, the Nazi
Navalny, who called Armenians “khachs” (a Russian ethnic slur for people from the Caucasus),
who hates Armenians, hates
Armenia, despises it—and you, Armenian
Public Television, put this
man on the air and broadcast him yourselves.
Well, that’s really something. Unbelievable.
So that’s how our Italian Waldemar
shamed all of Armenia. I think
everyone at Armenian Public Television
must of course be very ashamed. I don’t know, dear
Vladimir Rudolfovich,
where you got all these things
you made up that I supposedly said about Armenians, but
really, when we’re talking about Nazis—
seriously, you made an entire film
glorifying Mussolini, and now you’re going to accuse me
of being a Nazi? And let me remind you that
with the hashtag **#RussiaOfTheFuture**
you can ask me questions, write
questions on Twitter, and send your suggestions,
opinions, and so on. I’ll read them out
and try to answer them. You can also
become a subscriber to our channel,
a sponsor, a friend—there’s a link, and through
that link you can send ducks, and everyone else
whose names are scrolling across the screen—and today this
has a specific purpose.
Usually we collect funds simply for
supporting Navalny Live, but this time
it’s for something important, which, by the way,
shows us that
elections—real elections—and the entire
political process
are not just some thing that
you know, happened once, like there was
that vote on “zeroing out” presidential terms,
we discuss it now and then forget it because
it won’t happen again. No—when there is
a real political struggle, when there are
elections like the ones we took part in
a year ago, they catch up with us, they keep catching up with us.
We forced the Kremlin,
a year ago, to pay a price for
everything they did. And with the help of
Smart Voting, we got some
people into the Moscow City Duma.
We made them pay a price for the fact that
they barred independent candidates. And now
they are making us pay money.
Yesterday—or even today, I think—there came into force
the court rulings: Sobol and Alburov owe
1.5 million rubles to the road authorities,
all the independent candidates owe the prosecutor’s office
1.2 million rubles. Next, Sobol
and Alburov will also owe the prosecutor’s office
another million. Alburov and Sobol also owe
the Moscow Metro 600,000 rubles.
And besides that, everyone except
Georgy Alburov—including me—we owe
the Armenia restaurant 240,000 rubles. Which brings us
back to the subject of Armenian television. And so
therefore,
there’s really no way this can work other
than as a mutual aid fund, you understand.
This was our common campaign. The Kremlin,
Putin, Sobyanin—whoever—they all decided
on the following scheme: if these guys want to protest,
we’ll make them pay—one ruble, a hundred rubles,
if everyone chips in together, it’s not hard.
Without your help, we can’t handle it, so
please follow this link,
send a duck, and the money from
that duck will gradually go either to the Armenia restaurant
or to the Moscow Metro.
But in any case, there is no doubt that sooner
or later, in the European Court of Human Rights, we
are appealing there, and despite this
constitutional reset, we will still be able to
challenge it. I don’t doubt that for a single
second. Besides, of course, in the beautiful
Russia of the future, all these people will repay us
a hundredfold for all the tricks
they pulled. As I most often try
to do at the beginning of the program, while
people are still gathering—you are now 49,000
people watching live, and I hope
more will join—I want to talk about
topics that are important and super important, but
which were, of course, simply swallowed up by the huge
voting story. Right now nobody is discussing anything
except the vote, and
for some time they won’t be. But nevertheless,
over the past week, since
last Thursday, there have been, it seems to me,
some
rather extraordinary events
that really show who the masters
of Russia are. It’s clear enough that it’s people like Putin,
Rotenberg, and so on, but it becomes
so absolutely crystal clear
in certain specific situations,
especially outside Moscow. At Norilsk
Nickel, a gigantic industrial complex, the largest
enterprise in Russia, one of the largest
enterprises in the world, which was grabbed up
by two oligarchs, Potanin and Prokhorov, and now
Prokhorov is now simply—sorry,
Potanin, because they simply took it away for nothing.
For free, at the loans-for-shares auction.
Well, what they did—Prokhorov, excuse me, not...
Prokhorov, Potanin—Prokhorov too, for that matter...
I do not feel sorry for him at all; he also bears...
responsibility for the ruin of Norilsk Nickel.
For the fact that they carried out there...
absolutely no environmental...
measures, built no treatment facilities at all.
Well then, you and I have often...
discussed how they caused a real...
environmental catastrophe, the largest in...
the Arctic. Potanin has not paid a single kopeck for it yet.
Not a kopeck. We can see that there, you just...
nothing is happening there. And then, this...
This week, *Novaya Gazeta* simply started...
people got interested, went there, and filmed what...
it turns out that Norilsk Nickel...
simply takes these spent chemical wastes...
they just make a huge pipe and...
dump it into the river. At 1 minute 19 seconds, this is how...
this is how it happens.
The disposal of liquid toxic waste at...
Norilsk Nickel.
And from other tailings storage sites they take...
water in which they find up to 1 ton of metal.
Nickel, cobalt...
surfactants—through this...
orange pumping station...
they pump it through.
And then it goes—now we will see.
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I... in the sands... clear... press with me...
Photographer Yuri Kot... former...
employees... his...
In the fall, Ryabinin and Greenpeace activists...
We are moving up along the pipe...
This is the edge of the tailings pond, the pipe is...
further on, and it spills over through...
And that is it. And further on, I can simply...
show you this video for a long time: it is just a pipe...
it simply dumps everything into the river, into the local...
lake. And you simply have to understand...
that Norilsk Nickel is...
an enterprise that, in net profit...
brings its shareholders—mainly Potanin—
more than a billion dollars. In other words, these people...
are simply swimming in money.
All because they grabbed an old—well, at the time...
not actually that old—
Soviet plant and are simply squeezing...
everything they can out of it. This plant has enough...
money; they just need to raise...
their costs a little in order to build some...
proper facilities, but...
Potanin simply minimizes his...
expenses and maximizes profit by...
simply taking this toxic...
waste and just pouring it out everywhere. And this...
has been going on for years and years and years. This...
is not even the whole story. The most...
outrageous part of the story happened...
later. *Novaya Gazeta* and Greenpeace activists filmed all of this.
Sergei Mitrokhin then went there.
A deputy of the Moscow City Duma, I know him...
very well; I worked with him for many years.
These days Sergei Mitrokhin is not always very...
critical of the authorities, but at least...
on environmental issues he has always...
been a real fighter—Mitrokhin.
Together with environmentalists, they went and took...
samples there.
That is, roughly speaking, stones and soil around...
around this enterprise, around Norilsk...
Nickel—they basically just went into the forest...
dug up some soil in the forest...
and took a water sample, then brought it...
to Moscow in order to hand it over to...
laboratories and determine the degree of contamination.
What happened at the airport? At the airport...
literally...
they were stopped not by some private security at...
Norilsk Nickel, but by government employees...
who work in this whole...
aviation security system. They, excuse me, were simply...
searched, forced to take out all their belongings, and...
forbidden...
forbidden from taking anything away. Simply put, they were told:
"You know, you cannot take anything out of...
here without the combine's permission." That is...
the combine—meaning Potanin. And really...
the owners control the airport there.
There was also a long recording, and there was...
the phrase...
"report to Norilsk Nickel," even though...
the airport security staff...
they are government employees; they do not...
cannot even be reporting to...
some private individual.
Nevertheless, Potanin owns basically...
everything there. You cannot fly out...
of Norilsk if Potanin does not want...
you to. You cannot take these...
samples out. And again, this was not some ordinary person...
it was a fairly well-known person, a deputy, but...
even so, let us look at this...
recording from the airport. Honestly...
speaking, it is just infuriating.
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Right now it is inconsistent...
All samples are transported only if there is...
documentation. Show the documents under which...
Show the documents. On what...
grounds? Why are you not... why are you...
demanding this without any grounds, and...
Do not forget: from the territory of Norilsk...
nothing is taken out without permission...
Permission from whom, exactly? Tell me.
Permission from the combine.
Do you understand? With the combine's permission. And yes...
not the FSB, not the prosecutor's office, not the Center, no...
So I get off the plane, and then...
[ __ ] and the customs officers—obviously the FSB told them...
they needed to check what she had...
in her bag. That too is lawlessness, of course.
Absolutely. My family there—I remember...
a child was traveling, and they even took apart a Nintendo to...
see what was inside, but...
At the very least, these are some kind of people,
this lawless state is made up of people
who have been given authority, and they
use that authority in order to
protect a corrupt regime. But these are
at least formally state
employees, vested with the right to search
someone. Here, it’s just some kind of
petty thug sitting there at Norilsk Nickel, and
he calls Potanin and says, “Potanin, what
are we going to do? They’ve taken samples here,
they’ll take them to Moscow and tell everyone
that for years we’ve simply been
polluting everything.” And Potanin says,
“What are you, children? Have them stopped at the airport,
tell them that without permission
from our people nothing can be taken out, everything
will be confiscated, and they might even be put on a plane
— they should be grateful you let them leave.”
This is being done by nothing more than some
oligarchic crook, together in this
arrangement with some completely civilian
people from the industrial plant.
That’s who the masters of the land are. This whole Putin
vertical of power
is exactly about this: the fact that
there is no order at all, there is only
a colossal mess.
And again, as I said on the previous
program, of course at Norilsk Nickel there are
FSB officers assigned there,
there is formally a department of internal
affairs and various other agencies, but they simply
are all effectively on Norilsk Nickel’s payroll,
they all get their money from there.
So in the end, an entire
chunk of the state is serving
specifically and only Potanin; another chunk
of the state serves specifically and only
Lisin; a third serves only
Usmanov; a fourth serves Rotenberg. That’s
how it turns out, you see: this
so-called Putin vertical, this “order”
he supposedly established, and so on—there is no
order at all. Potanin can do whatever he wants
to any resident of Norilsk
Nickel—or to you.
If you come there, to Norilsk,
how is this any different from the damned ’90s? When I
was involved in various court cases
with major companies and sued them
over corruption, simply buying
a small block of shares
and using our rights as shareholders, there was
a well-known case: the company
Surgutneftegaz, which in much the same way
ruled over the city of Surgut in its time,
used to do things like this.
Well, when some inspection or visit was
coming, if there were people they didn’t like, they
would simply not let the plane land in Surgut. Everyone
would be told, “Fly on from here to wherever
you want—we’ve got bad weather.”
Because they had been informed that such people were flying in,
and they didn’t like those people.
Or the other way around: if they didn’t
want you to leave, you wouldn’t leave,
because they’d say the weather was bad and there would be
no departure. But that was
something abstract to me—I never personally
experienced it. I always heard it as
stories about the terrible, cursed ’90s. But now
the exact same thing, absolutely the same thing, in an even
worse form, is happening again—only now
on camera, a woman says: “Yes, you can’t take anything out
without
the plant’s permission.” This whole story
with Norilsk Nickel is something we all
need to watch very closely, because
it has clearly already become not only
an environmental issue but a political one as well.
This is political. There is a super-rich
man, one of the richest people in
Russia, one of the richest people
in the world, who put in zero
entrepreneurial effort, or really
zero talent or anything of the sort, to
become this super-rich man.
He simply stole
a huge industrial complex during the loans-for-shares
auction, and now he is poisoning everything around it.
Once again, he doesn’t want to pay anything.
He wants to extract, every year,
$1.5 billion in profit
by trading nickel from our land, essentially,
and he doesn’t want to pay a
single kopeck when he pollutes the entire
Arctic around it. So of course we
understand perfectly well that, in principle, perhaps
I’m wrong when I say Potanin hasn’t paid
a single kopeck—he has paid Rosprirodnadzor,
that very environmental watchdog, which has already delivered
a cartload of money to the Presidential Administration,
two cartloads of money—I don’t know—to Alina Kabaeva,
bought five airplanes, and so on and so on
and so forth. But he doesn’t want to pay anything
into the budget, and in any case all these
gifts, bribes, and so on will be far
less than a real fine and real
compensation for the damage—and most importantly,
the actual construction of treatment
facilities. This is what it is very, very important
to keep an eye on and to press these oligarchs over, because
this is our Arctic.
The Arctic is ours. So, VR asks:
“Alexei, how can one become an observer at the autumn
elections?” We’ll announce a call soon. I’m thinking about
it—I just don’t want to simply say, “Guys,
sign up in some spreadsheet.” We need
an organized system, because we
need to register thousands of people as
observers. I’ll make the effort and
we’ll propose some kind of orderly system.
So yes, there are a lot of questions about the elections.
And Inferno Overkill, our regular
listener,
asks whether Ardy, Lava, and Frenkel will bring
anyone to account for this.
lawlessness
That’s an excellent question, and a really very important
topic.
I saw how it literally shook the entire
information space, but it was also
in a certain sense overshadowed by all
the events that followed, because, you
know, lawlessness is answered with more lawlessness.
What happened to Frenkel faded a little into the
background of what happened next. Even so, this is
still a fundamentally important matter, and once
again I want to address all journalists:
this situation must not be let slide.
David Frenkel, a journalist with the outlet Mediazona,
came to a polling station
because he had the authority
as a media representative to observe.
This was in the city of St. Petersburg,
in St. Petersburg.
We know how elections are rigged, and we
know how these elections were rigged, and they
really did not want
Frenkel there as an observer. And so what happened?
There was some shoving and pushing around, and then
they simply broke the man’s arm. And there were many,
a huge number of people who
were filming all around; there are many videos
in which you can practically, quite literally,
see and hear his arm crunching. But
I’ll show you a version that’s not quite so harrowing;
still, it’s rather unpleasant
to watch.
Let’s call this “take the children away from the screens.”
It’s pretty unpleasant, but it needs to be seen, and
most importantly, you need to see
the senselessness, stupidity, and harmfulness of all
these people. A person wants
to be an observer; he has every
right to do so. And what does he get in
return for exercising that right? They simply
break his arm in front of everyone. Let’s watch.
They’re trying to remove him right now.
I mean, the degree of it is simply unimaginable—
you are a journalist with
every right to be here.
These scoundrels in uniform simply break his arm,
they throw him to the ground and just break his arm. Well,
after that, a real
bacchanalia began. Because everything was caught on camera, and
things were starting to smell bad. And first of all,
to begin with,
an anonymous high-ranking source—
the emphasis was on “high-ranking”—
a source in the administration
of St. Petersburg stated that, of course,
Frenkel had broken his own arm.
Literally: he came there, and then
started either running around or doing something else,
and somehow broke his own arm. Then
there were reports that he had broken
his arm in advance before coming there. I mean,
you understand, this is that kind of
“State Department stooge” logic: they’ll go in for any provocation,
make any sacrifice, just to
set up Ella Pamfilova (head of Russia’s Central Election Commission). So the man
supposedly just, well, at Mediazona, asked
editor-in-chief Smirnov—Sergei Smirnov—
to say, “Let’s break my arm, I’ll go set them up,”
and then he went off to frame Ella Pamfilova in that
way. They wrote this in complete seriousness.
Then, since there was a sea of video footage and,
fortunately, things were looking very bad for them, everyone
was outraged, there were hundreds of thousands of views—so what
did they start doing? Instead of
even trying, I don’t know,
to do something about that police officer, they
fabricated a fake exchange of messages in which Frenkel
with some people was supposedly
discussing how
this whole thing was a provocation, that
“come on, break my arm on camera,”
“you’ll see, there’ll be tons of hype,”
“we’ll shoot loads of videos.”
It was all very obvious, just an obvious
brazen fake,
which in fact also strongly
contradicted the video recordings. Because, well,
maybe only complete idiots could
have believed it if Frenkel had been
shoving with some people here,
civilians or people in plain clothes. But here
you can plainly see that police officers
throw him down, he screams, and his arm is broken.
This fake exchange of messages
was published by that so-called newspaper,
Komsomolskaya Pravda.
It has a circulation in the millions. And after that,
when people caught them out and started rubbing their noses in it—
“Guys, what are you even doing?”—then
the editor-in-chief of Komsomolskaya Pravda
said, “Well yes, we don’t know, maybe it’s fake,”
“or maybe it’s real.” You see how it works:
these people publish a fake
message exchange, and then they say
that it might be fake, that they can’t figure out
whether it’s fake or not. Well,
in the end, they didn’t
remove anything, apparently.
Now
Peskov said that this incident
must be investigated—an incident is an incident—
but for now their explanation is this:
the fish rots from the head.
The head of St. Petersburg, one of my favorite
officials, Beglov, said something like:
“Well, people got a little nervous there, we all
get tired of everything, it happens.”
No, it does not “just happen.” Fatigue
does not make someone break another person’s arm. Alexander
Beglov, 0:41.
“Of course it’s sad that he was injured.”
“As far as you know, I…”
“...and I will wait for the results.”
the results.
I would like to note that it is clear that
many people learned about
everyone has their own character, each person
has their own limits.
Sometimes there’s such a thing as excessive niceness.
an obsession with excessive enthusiasm and
and now we all—well, yes, of course it happens, but
Guys, come on—let’s be honest, and you
haven’t heard this before: that you were tired
or simply went and broke someone’s arm.
Well, sure, let every police officer
— explain it by saying, “We’re human, we’re tired, you know.”
You know, had a fight with his wife, sees someone walking by,
and decides to break his arm—just because, apparently.
Damn it, and it’s always someone giving you a pat on the shoulder
Let me put it plainly: we all know ordinary
human nature, and it’s just that
the sheer brazenness of all this—I understand that I
keep repeating this phrase on the show more than any other,
that the brazenness of all this is incredibly
infuriating—it really is.
A guy is standing there, a journalist, and he has
every right to be there—and you break his arm and tell
him, “We were tired.” This is some kind of warped reality—but whose
reality is it: Frenkel’s, the police’s, or
the election commission’s, which
was falsifying this whole thing? Compare it, by the way,
to that video, which was, I should say,
great—or rather terrible, but in its terribleness
there was at least a certain clarity, even a kind of grim brilliance.
From Kemerovo, where, as we know,
they apparently cooked up something like 90 percent turnout yesterday
and 95 percent in favor of Putin’s “renewal.”
Just compare that with the situation involving Frenkel,
who was demanding that we be allowed
to observe, and meanwhile in Kemerovo Region
there were two local bloggers
who saw that a man
had parked improperly, apparently on
a lawn, and they started filming him, well,
just filming him on a phone.
The man turned out to be a former police officer, and he
really, really didn’t like that.
And you know how these situations usually
tend to unfold.
The former police officer doesn’t like being filmed,
he yells, “Stop filming,”
pushes the camera away, or maybe grabs
the phone and smashes it, or something like that.
But this is Kemerovo.
This is Kemerovo, where anyone
connected to the authorities is expected to
throw that weight around and do whatever they want.
And against these two young men
they opened a criminal hooliganism case
because, supposedly, they were arguing
and
Let’s take a look at how their
detention happened—how the police broke in
to carry out a search. And just pay attention, once again:
they were filming on a phone. Nobody—
a police officer who had parked
improperly—and this is how
they entered their apartment
to conduct a search in connection with this
terrible crime: filming police officers.
26 seconds.
There’s no better comparison—they stormed it like they did at Zimnyaya Vishnya (the Winter Cherry mall in Kemerovo, site of the 2018 fire),
breaking in with their ladders and
supposedly rescuing people.
They smash the window, shout “Freeze!”, and I just—well,
I mean, what is the point of this assault at all?
Honestly, people, even if you’ve opened a case
for hooliganism against people who
were filming on a phone—because apparently it matters that
you were filming one of ours, even if he’s a former one—then sure, we’ll
go ahead, you understand, and conduct
a search—but the kind of search they’ll remember
forever: smashing your window with the help of
some special assault ladder.
And that’s what they do. But when it comes to
Frenkel at night—“we were tired.” That’s a completely
different matter, a different matter. Stas asks me:
“What do you think about the New People party?”
Just another spoiler party. Guys, of course
it’s just another spoiler—some kind of
crooks, really, it’s hard to put it any other way, just like
this whole Kremlin-run system where
amazing new parties suddenly appear
and get approved instantly.
Let me remind you that we tried to register our party under
several different names, some of which
they even stole from us, and we tried to register it
nine times. Every single time they told us,
“You don’t have enough people,” or “There’s an error.”
And then some party appears out of nowhere and it
gets registered immediately. Of course, these are all
completely Kremlin-controlled
parties, created so that they can
take part in State Duma elections
or, like right now, in various
regional parliament elections, because it’s
very important for the Kremlin that small parties
make it into legislative assemblies somewhere,
in any region, and then
they can move up to the federal level without having to collect signatures.
the federal level.
And then they can say, “What do you mean, there’s no
stagnation in the political system?”
“You don’t like that it’s the same thing over and over
again?”
“But we’ve got new faces, new
parties.” In fact, the party is literally
called that, guys—New People. So why
wouldn’t you vote for New People? But
it’s actually very easy
to tell the difference: just look and see
whether they say anything at all—any
criticism of the president. If they criticize
the president or United Russia, let’s say, with
specific facts—if there’s any real
criticism there—then you’ll see. And of course you’ll see that
there is no real criticism at all. It’s an
absolutely controlled
controlled party.
Zhirnosova Grim asks: “Any news about Artyom and
Tekhnik? There’s still no news. Artyom, who
worked, among other things, on Navalny LIVE, our
—I told you that he was basically
kidnapped and taken away.
We’ve been dealing with this automatically since the beginning—actually,
he has all the documents.
He is exempt from military conscription.
They wanted him off this program so badly
that they simply abducted him and
took him away. He is now in Vladimir
at some kind of military training camp.
And we are currently in the middle of court proceedings; in
court, we are establishing these medical
documents. But right now the Defense Ministry, together
with Shoigu, really is using the army
as a kind of camp where
it is actually even harder to sue or
to try to obtain any
documents or meet with this
person than when he is sitting
in prison. They simply hide people away; as with Shavenkov,
they took him to Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), and now
they are trying to do the same thing with
Artyom. But of course we will fight for
him. But the situation, the situation is not, not
very good. Egor Makhin asks me:
is it worth running in the elections
for the City Duma? Egor, that depends on who you
are running against, whether you can win, whether you will
actually fight. But overall, the answer is yes, of course it is worth it.
The more people take part in elections, the
greater the political diversity, the
more people you draw into all of this, into
this whole movement. But you just should not
run in a way where, you know,
you just go for it casually, or simply
write, “Of course, Alexei, you know, I
watch your show, and now I’m
running for the City Duma, so support me
through Smart Voting.” That is not how
Smart Voting works. First and foremost, we need it
in order to defeat
United Russia, and we will support
candidates—we will try to support
candidates who have a chance of winning,
even if, ideologically, those candidates
are not especially close to me personally. And unfortunately,
idiots do not watch my
Thursday livestream, but they still have a better
chance of breaking through if they put up a fight against
United Russia. So if you, Egor, have
some kind of team, if you understand what
to do, and if you go into your district
and wipe the United Russia candidate off the map,
or make a real attempt, then of course
you should run—for the City Duma and for the Legislative Assembly.
You absolutely should. You just need
to be determined. It is a good,
interesting experience, a great thing. Quite possibly
you may even get elected, and if they
do elect you, then at the very least it will be
interesting to look back on.
Are U L asks me: “Alexei, will there be
a campaign against deputies with dual
citizenship and residence permits?”
Well, what do you think yourselves? Has it all already been forgotten?
Swept under the rug? Of course there will be no such campaign.
What, are they going to fight themselves?
Just look at the huge number of
reports about how business-jet owners
from Russia keep flying abroad all the time, while
regular flights are supposedly banned, and
that raises the question: how is it that various
people close to United Russia
—United Russia members—are getting abroad
at all? Because right now I would not be let into a single
European country, because
they would take my passport, say, “Alexei, goodbye,”
“it says Russian
Federation there. We do not let people like that in. You are all
contagious over there.”
But if someone shows up and, as it were,
they say, “Well, he tucked away his United Russia
party card and found his
residence permit or passport,” then he gets let into
lovely Spain and Italy and so on.
Take Vladimir Solovyov, for example: together with his
family, he can easily go to
Italy because he has a residence
permit. So of course there will be absolutely no
campaign about that.
Someone asks about Plan B, and whether there will be
week-long voting. We will talk about all
of that now, but before that I wanted to
entertain you. My
dear friend Margarita Simonyan
—a wonderful woman—has, as you
know, sued me, Sobol, and the
entire Anti-Corruption Foundation,
or so we have heard. Because, well, they
filed the lawsuit, and the court kicked it back, saying
it was written incompetently. And then, later,
they apparently said it had been accepted, but we have nothing,
we do not know anything, we are just
left confused and worried about what exactly
little Margarita has sued over, what she
wants to prove.
It is a lawsuit over honor, dignity, and business
reputation. She is demanding 500,000
rubles from me and from Sobol each—so what exactly
did I say or write that means
I am supposed to pay Margarita
half a million rubles?
And
[music]
how exactly is she going to prove
that what I said was false? Please show me
screenshot number one. Let us take a look at it.
Look at it—not that one, not this one, no, give me the right one—but
show me my post, what I said. What do
you think in this image
outraged Margarita Simonyan so much that she
filed a lawsuit?
Find the phrase here that insulted her
so badly that she
is suing and demanding 500,000 rubles. Not
“propagandist Margarita Simonyan,” not
“stop misleading people,” and not
“colossal budget.” The phrase was:
“We all know that RT is pathetic.” This is
not a joke—they are completely serious.
Now show the excerpt they attached;
it literally says in the lawsuit that “we all
know that RT is pathetic”—“pathetic.”
According to the explanatory dictionary, "wretchedness" is a miserable outward
appearance or inner content
of something, and that, of course, does not
correspond to reality. Our
channel Russia Today (RT)
and, personally, Margarita Simonyan
are in no way whatsoever
an act of courage. Next, the following phrase, which
Margarita Simonyan really did not like,
was this:
"Simonyan deceives everyone, including her
boss." Please show a clip
from this lawsuit.
There, you see: "Today I’ll tell you how
Margarita Simonyan deceives everyone,
including her boss, President
Vladimir Putin..." And then—well, never mind.
You know, I’ve called Margarita
Simonyan many different things, and even now I
certainly consider her wretched, a thief,
absolutely pointless, talentless,
a woman who sits there parasitizing
the state budget, who on her monstrous,
disgusting program, a kind of "Laugh Panorama" (a reference to a tacky Russian TV comedy format),
together with her husband earns 6
million rubles a week (about 60,000 USD at a rough historical rate), and who
steals from the Interior Ministry budget through a fictitious
PR contract. But with Simonyan, the issue is different.
The phrase where I say that she deceives
her boss—that is what is very important to her.
She wants to litigate precisely over that, to say: dear
dear boss, look, they’re saying that I
deceived you, but I am not deceiving you.
So much so that I am even ready
to go to court over it.
Because of this, tomorrow I am publishing
this lawsuit. It is actually very funny, and
there’s a lot in it.
What interests me is simply the mechanism of their
rebuttal. Yes, so: Margarita Simonyan
says, offended and insulted, that I and
the RT channel are "wretched." Apparently she’ll bring me
some certificate from HR saying that I’m not
that she is not wretched, and we will have to
refute it and say, well, sorry, but yes,
she is wretched. And the judge will sit there deciding:
so, interesting, is this wretchedness or not
wretchedness? But separately, it’s very amusing
that the lawsuit was filed not on behalf of Simonyan,
but on behalf of TV-Novosti, the legal entity
that owns everything. At the same time,
in my latest video, which
Lyubov Sobol released, TV-Novosti is not
mentioned there at all. It’s just that Margarita Simonyan
apparently doesn’t want to sue personally, and
so a third legal entity files
in her defense and tries to prove that none of this is
wretchedness, that she did not deceive her
boss, and so on. Let’s watch 40
seconds of that very video by Lyubov Sobol
for which, as we know, our courts will of course
sooner or later squeeze out of Sobol
500,000 rubles (about 5,000 USD at a rough historical rate). We studied
RT’s YouTube channels in different regions and
found out what they really are. It is
monstrous artificial boosting, including through
porn sites and Indian bots in
the comments. These are fantastical budgets
that are going into someone’s pocket, and now I will
show you this clearly. There are many
signs by which you can identify
artificial boosting: comparing social
engagement on videos, view
views,
audience geography. For example, any
schoolkid will tell you that if you have in front of you a
video with more than 1 million
views,
like this RT video in Spanish, but
it has only 93 comments, then the matter
is most likely not clean.
So there you have it. You can watch this video
and enjoy it on the channel
Navalny Live. In the future, of course, you will
also enjoy the absolutely wonderful
trial where we will discuss the courage of
Margarita Simonyan and whether or not she is wretched. I
already had a trial where one of the United Russia party members
—some of you may remember—was trying to prove that he
was not a drug addict. I simply wrote a tweet:
"United Russia member Lisovenko is a drug addict," and retweeted
his absurd statement. And then he
brought
a certificate to court saying that he was not
a drug addict, that Navalny had slandered him. So now
Margarita Simonyan, with a certificate stating that she
is not wretched,
is something we will be watching in one of
the courts. So, Timur asks about
Shnurov and his new post—what do you say?
Did he sell out because of debts, or what?
He seemed like a decent guy. Well, I saw
that Shnurov had reportedly become the head of the TV channel
RTVI.
And it seemed like a joke to me, but
the RTVI channel is located right across
the road from our office, and I could literally see that
Shnurov was filming there, by that wall
that I walk past every day, and
he was going into the RTVI office, so
well then, he sold out. To whom and why is not entirely clear to me.
Honestly, why he would want to be the general
producer of this channel—I don’t know. Lately he’s been doing
public and political things. Recently he
got involved with that party, the Party of Growth
(forgive me, Lord), the one associated with Titov—and that really is
some kind of utter wretchedness. They were saying something
about doing something so that in St. Petersburg
they could drag them into the Legislative
Assembly or into the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament).
Sergey Shnurov has been doing strange things.
Well, maybe it’s some kind of midlife
crisis. Maybe he got tired of singing and wants
to settle down somehow—we don’t know. Let’s
wait and see. They say he used to be a normal
guy—well, he still is a normal guy,
though unfortunately sometimes he gets involved in
some kind of paid hype. But overall, it’s normal enough.
Let's not judge Sergei before we judge Sergei.
Shnurov by his actions—what if he suddenly takes the RTVI TV channel
to unprecedented heights, and right there
everything will be great. So, voting is not...
A smart question about Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug (a region in western Siberia): how did you calculate
it? Alexei asks me. Viktor Medved:
how did you know it would be 72 percent? It wasn't hard to
figure out. Well, let's actually
discuss, in fact, the main
news story, which many people see as
historic—or fateful. I don't see it as fateful at all,
not in the least, but nevertheless
it really is very important.
What happened was this very reset
of Putin's terms, and today he already came out with
a kind of congratulatory address to all Russians. There
was a very funny headline this morning,
rather ominous, saying that Putin had promised
to thank Russia for its support, and
of course on Twitter a lot of people
were joking
that it was like, run for your lives, whoever can,
they're going to bomb us after all.
Well, Putin released this address, and he
said there separately, basically, that
he understands those who voted
against. Let's take 41 seconds
of Putin's gratitude to Russia: "I want
to address words of thanks
to the citizens of Russia. I want to say thank you
very much for your support and trust.
I have repeatedly spoken about the need
to adopt amendments to the country's fundamental law,
to the Constitution. Here we have both
the improvement of the political system, and
the enshrinement of social guarantees, and
the strengthening of sovereignty, and
territorial integrity, and finally
our spiritual, historical, and moral
values that bind generations together.
There were many, many different values in it.
In the end, I just won't torture you with this
long recording. He says that he understands
those who voted against, and says nothing
about resetting his own term limits.
And this kind of address itself is
very telling. Of course, Putin understands
what happened. And as for how I
predicted it would be 72 percent—first of all, I
didn't guess right, because I just did
a very, very simple exercise. All
the newspapers wrote several months ago
that the Presidential Administration's plan
was simple:
turnout above 50 percent—closer to 60—and
for more than 70 percent to vote yes.
So I made a very rough estimate.
I simply thought that in the presidential
election they had fabricated 76 percent for him,
and now, after the increase in
the retirement age, after the coronavirus,
after the absence of any real assistance—they surely wouldn't dare.
And here I was exactly the naive
Chukchi youth (a Russian expression meaning a naive person): I thought they
would be embarrassed to fabricate that much.
So I thought it would be something in between
the basic target they had been given and the 76
percent from back then—that was the peak.
And so, yes, I said 72.
If I was wrong, probably 71 rather than that. But I
of course underestimated Ella Aleksandrovna
Pamfilova and all these wonderful
people in general. They have now fabricated, what,
almost 78 percent? That is,
of course, an absolute maximum—
Putin's highest result of all time. And in that
sense, its lack of authenticity
follows directly from that alone.
It's just that obvious.
So it seems to me that this
triumphal victory for Putin, in the
medium term, will not bring
him anything good. But first of all,
I'd still like to say a few words about the context
surrounding this
vote, because we can see that in
Russia people have basically, en masse,
stopped caring—there's no other word for it—about
the coronavirus. Literally no one
is paying attention. Meanwhile, for example, in
Kazakhstan today they reintroduced
quarantine. In European countries things are
also very difficult. In America the numbers are huge.
And in Russia, in fact, on the
day of the vote, as Leonid Volkov quite rightly
pointed out—one of the people
who follows all of this closely
and keeps track of all the numbers—on that
day, during the voting, Russia excluding
Moscow showed the highest number
of deaths. In other words, according to
the official data, on the day
of the "reset," more people in Russia died from the coronavirus
than on any other
day. And at the same time, of course, by now nobody
gives a damn about this whole coronavirus anymore. But still,
let's look at the official
statistics. Putin was talking about how
he had brilliantly defeated everyone, and
now if we look even at the official
statistics, which are understated several
times over—let's compare Russia with
Europe. Volkov also wrote today—and I
thought it was exactly the right tweet to
show you—that we have a population of 146
million people and currently 216 deaths per day,
while Europe has a population of 450 million
and they, supposedly, according to Putin,
followed our wonderful example,
and they have 93 deaths per
day. And this is the kind of thing that we
still need to remember, because in all
the regional hospitals and medical centers
things are a total mess right now.
Since I said that everyone had stopped caring—well,
people are now treating the coronavirus as if
it's just here, that's it, it's with us,
it's here, and we don't even want to discuss it anymore, we don't...
What’s interesting is that in hospitals, but in fact
this is how it is: any person who is even
somewhat influential in any city
is now getting three or four calls a day
saying, “Listen, please arrange
to get my grandmother, or mother, or some female relative into
a hospital, because they’re not admitting anyone anymore — all
the hospitals
are simply packed with people; there are huge numbers of dying patients,
an enormous number, but somehow, well...
And meanwhile we’re holding a vote, and essentially
this so-called vote was organized
basically for the sake of a nice tweet.
Today I saw one published
by a certain Telegram channel and Twitter account.
There’s the Kremlin pool — a group of
journalists who serve Putin — and
very characteristically, it said there outright:
it was completely obvious what this was
being done for: “Putin’s victories, here you go.”
This is what Putin’s victories look like
in their view:
the 2000 election — 52 percent, then
2004 — 71.12 percent,
then after the protests it dipped a little, and then
all the way up to 76,
and now almost 78. So there you have it —
that’s really what all of this
was started for.
And the main thing I want to say to everyone
— to address everyone, to hug everyone and
kiss everyone — whether you rejected it and didn’t go,
or whether you went out and voted, you could have
gone and voted “no,” because
that was your act of civic responsibility, your civic act.
I mean, simply wanting to photograph
it all, post it on Twitter, and say:
“To hell with Putin,” or
maybe you believed the story that
it was possible
to outvote them — none of that matters now.
Right now, everyone did well; everyone did something
against this whole regime, against this whole
setup. But it was designed in such a way that
you could vote, and that was
an act of your courage,
but when it came to the actual count, it
could not function.
And let’s just look back once again at what happened
five months ago. Five months ago
they said — what was Putin’s defeat in?
It lies in the fact that five months ago
they were sitting there, just like this, and we were discussing
whether Putin needed his term count reset, whether he needed
new terms because, well,
for one reason or another,
people were behaving improperly, and Vladimir
Vladimirovich (a colloquial way of referring to Vladimir Putin) wanted to write this into
the Constitution. And there was a very simple,
obvious option: let’s hold
a referendum, and Vladimir Vladimirovich would get
everything he needs. After all, we know how to run referendums,
we know how to run elections:
Chechnya — 90 percent, Tatarstan — 95
percent, and Kemerovo Region — 95
percent — we’d win any referendum by those kinds of magical numbers.
But no — he lost,
because he refused to hold
a referendum, and instead chose something resembling an election in
Russia, where every election is rigged. But
we know, we saw how the recent
2018 presidential election was falsified —
it was falsified completely.
But that level of fraud was not enough.
They understood that if they simply came out
with observers and at least some kind of
procedure, even a bad one, they’d be finished —
just finished. People would mobilize,
they’d get crushed in all the major cities,
and quite possibly in smaller cities that
had suffered from the coronavirus, they
would lose.
And so they came up with a separate scheme.
This is very important to understand,
because we can’t discuss something
in completely abstract terms when we’re discussing
something that looks like an election, with ballots,
and then call it an election and compare it to
previous elections. That’s the wrong
way to think about it.
There were, and there will be in September, some kind of
elections — very problematic, but with observers
and with rules. They decided instead that they would hold
this
without observers and without anything at all. At that moment
they lost. At that moment
we can say: that’s it, guys,
the truth is on our side, because it’s obvious
that you’ll just fabricate the result. You created a special
mechanism in which votes are not counted and
mean nothing. Today the Golos movement (Russia’s independent election-monitoring organization)
issued a statement. I had sort of promised myself
that during this broadcast I wouldn’t
say even once, “I told you so,” but
I’ll rephrase it. So, in that sense,
the Golos movement, in its
statement, essentially repeated everything
I’ve been discussing here with you:
that this was not even a vote, but
from the outset simply a PR campaign, and
the voting itself, directly,
as the observers tell us — and they are the largest
monitoring organization — had no
significance.
That’s exactly right. And so again the phrase comes to mind
“as I said before,” or “as I
mentioned here on the program”: you could go
and vote — the main thing is not to be upset afterward
that your vote was not counted. You
voted, or you didn’t vote,
but you know that this is a fake.
By design, in this whole apparatus,
there was never any function meant to show you
your vote. That function simply did not exist at all.
What we have now is unquestionably the
largest,
the most massive falsification in the history
of Russia — not just in recent history, but in Russia’s history altogether.
in the history of the new Russia—and of Russia in general—already
there is a huge amount of this kind of evidence
you can read Shpilkin’s post on
a well-known mathematician, one of the leading
experts in electoral mathematics
there are lots of figures and graphs there; if
you understand that sort of thing, you’ll get great
pleasure from it. You can also read the excellent
post by Leonid Volkov, which he wrote today
—it’s simple math there, for
people who aren’t able to make sense of
some super-complicated graphs. But the difference between them
in Volkov’s and Shpilkin’s calculations—Shpilkin’s
he says that Putin and
Pamfilova stuffed in 22 million votes
Volkov thinks it was probably closer to 27
million votes. In other words, it was simply
an enormous, colossal ballot-stuffing operation, and of course
but as for Pamfilova
Ella Aleksandrovna, at one point, was very
offended by me over this
photograph and was indignant, saying,
“Come on, Navalny, this is not some fascist
uniform at all.” By the way, that uniform in
the photo belonged to Churov, the previous head
of the Central Election Commission, and I just saw somewhere on
the internet that someone had cut out
Churov’s head and replaced it with Ella
Pamfilova’s, and I posted that picture on Twitter
when
Pamfilova first started doing
some kind of nonsense. She got offended and said, “Why
did Navalny post me in this fascist
uniform?” And in general, basically
we all thought—I’m ashamed to say
in comparison with Churov—that actually, we
all thought it couldn’t get any worse than Churov
but he really was
this old, brazen thug, while here we had
this sensitive, anxious
woman who had always moved along
the trade-union line, and she always
likes to tell stories about how she went to Chechnya, how
she was friends there with Yavlinsky (a liberal Russian politician), how she was
a great friend of—well, probably not anymore—
Novaya Gazeta (an independent Russian newspaper), and so on and so forth
She likes giving interviews and
telling people in them how she
is not at all ashamed of what she
has done over the last four years. Let’s
listen to a little clip here—I’ll stay in the corner
so I don’t get banned too. Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel): “Over
these four years, I haven’t done anything
that I should be ashamed of
no matter what anyone says.”
You see, for her this is very important. Churov
never reasoned in terms like shame or no shame
at all. He would put on his glasses,
scratch his beard, and say,
“In accordance with clause such-and-such, therefore
United Russia gets all the votes. Right,
comrades, please state your views. We vote.
Heard, resolved, goodbye.” That’s how
it all was. But she plays the part of
the tormented intelligentsia, saying, “People
are slandering me, but I’m not ashamed.” But
paradoxically, it is precisely this very
Ella Pamfilova, great friend of all
human rights activists, former commissioner for
human rights—well, whatever the exact title was
human rights ombudsman, head of the Council
for Human Rights—but never mind, those are
fake institutions. Still, she always followed
that line, and in Putin’s
nomenklatura she fell into the category of
the compassionate auntie with big eyes
filled with tears and slightly
trembling lips, someone who
really seemed not just like another bureaucratic
face, but a human being. But she turned out to be the worst of all
a hundred times worse than Churov. It was Ella
Pamfilova
who stuffed in those either 22 or 27
million votes and totally
falsified the whole thing, simply carrying out
the biggest scam imaginable. Obviously it was done with
the Presidential Administration, obviously with
Putin’s administration. But I believe—and
Yashin said today, go to his channel
and watch his video, he released
an excellent video—that Pamfilova must go
I believe she should end up in the dock
She needs to be put on trial, and she
should become a symbol, some kind of—if you like—
point of national consensus
All of us, regardless of our
views, should agree that
Pamfilova must go
she should be under investigation, she
should be in prison, because this is
monstrous theft on a monstrous
scale. I don’t know whether we will see
anything even worse than this, but
judging by the way she has gone about it, maybe
we will. By the way, it’s interesting
that in that same interview with Pozner (a well-known Russian TV host), held
on the eve of the vote
she quite shamelessly, together with him,
discussed how these amendments had already been adopted, that is
which is also just an astonishing degree
of cynicism: they call everyone out to vote and at the same time say
“doo-doo-doo, the amendments are of course already adopted,” and
Pozner nods along: “Yes, yes, they’re adopted,”
the amendments. Let’s listen. “What this man has done
proposed—this was all so
primitive and obvious that not to know him, not to
understand him—and he didn’t need to do anything
more, really. Yes, even if, even if
these amendments, calmly, they are already
adopted
you understand? And, well, as far as I know
yes, of course, as far as is known—well, it’s already
adopted. All of this still has to
happen formally, but we’ll draw the numbers anyway. There are already
simply a huge number of
mathematical calculations, videos,
all sorts of things
a sea of material over the next two or three
In the coming weeks, there will simply be ten times more of it.
materials that unquestionably show
that this was simply one massive falsification.
Where, essentially, there is no—no
more or less coherent fragment. Actually, I
wanted to show you just one—well, even a single
video, a photograph, an absolutely remarkable one.
St. Petersburg. And in St. Petersburg, well,
take a look at this too. Most of us
—even observers—still haven’t understood
the scale of the so-called early
voting in St. Petersburg. So, how
many people do you think came
to vote on the actual voting day? In
fact, less than one-tenth of
the total number. In St. Petersburg,
60 percent turnout had already been recorded in advance. You
can check for yourself: in a giant
city of over a million people, 60 percent of people
came and voted early there. Sixty
percent—that was more than half the city.
It’s impossible to imagine, but that’s what it was, and
the signs of large-scale falsification were as follows:
First, show the precinct protocol here.
Show the protocol—yes, can we get a closer look?
Here, if you look closely, you can see
“for.”
Now, the number of ballots issued—
the number of ballots, right here, yes—how many?
It says 435. Line number five: 435.
Then the following happens. But this
protocol, which was signed by all the members
of the commission—in this case, there was at least some
decent commission member there—
they submit it to the so-called GAS
Vybory system (the State Automated Election System), and the protocol that the commission
has in hand must fully
match the electronic
protocol that is entered into the system.
And then the system passes the data along, so in
the end the votes are counted, counted, and here
this is exactly where, of course, all the
cheating begins.
Protocols start disappearing, they
start getting rewritten or otherwise tampered with
or moved from one folder to another in
ordinary elections, yes. But here, as we already
discussed, the system was fundamentally
built differently. Now let’s look at how that same
protocol appears in the GAS
Vybory system. We look and find the same little thing
under “for.” You see the same 431, only damn it,
they put a 1 in front of the number and
it became 1,400—just a moment ago it was 430
one votes in favor. They just stupidly added
a 1. They didn’t throw out
anything, they didn’t stuff ballots, they didn’t
try to take the protocol away from that guy at the precinct,
tear it up and burn it, destroy some
evidence—nothing. They didn’t even try
to do that. They just damn well added a 1, and
as a result,
431 turned into 1,431.
That’s what they did. It’s obvious that all
these people who were supposed to do it, did it.
They should be in prison. Here is the direct
evidence: one protocol versus the
figure in GAS Vybory. So once again,
well done to everyone who did at least something.
Yes, well, now in hindsight, and to me
it’s clear that many things should have been done differently.
Probably our overall strategy should have been
different. It was definitely my mistake that I let myself
get drawn into this discussion—
this meaningless nonsense about
whether to vote or boycott. But we
announced this dual strategy: not
to recognize it, while saying that you could vote
against it, or you could simply not go. And if you
look through the feed from our штабs (campaign offices),
you’ll see that a whole bunch of
regional штаб (campaign office) heads went and
voted “no,” while others didn’t go.
That part doesn’t matter. But this—this
discussion was pointless. We got too
deeply drawn into it, and in the end it turned out
that we were campaigning to ourselves.
The key thing here was to focus on those
who vote in favor
and don’t even understand what these amendments are about.
Because what matters is
the major thing that happened on
—completely wrongly—today Sobol
drew attention to this. She wrote that
you remember how they were telling us
during the preparations, when they kept bringing up
puppies and kittens,
passports for officials, and what Beglov (Governor of St. Petersburg) was doing—
on voting day he was telling everyone about very
nice amendments on animal protection.
But once all this happened, what did they start saying?
They said this was a referendum on trust in
Putin. From the official website of this
vote, they even removed
the mention that the amendments included
the resetting of Putin’s term count. Now look:
Sobyanin, all of United Russia, all of them
are saying that this was, of course, it was
a referendum on trust in Putin. Of course, all
80 percent—78 percent—came and
supported him.
Trust in Putin—that’s exactly what this was needed for,
this very tweet, yes, and this whole
narrative. Show the tweet again.
The Kremlin press pool is simply trying
to intimidate us with their supposed numbers,
with their sheer size. The main idea there
is that everyone who is against it
keeps seeing this figure—seventy-
seven point nine, or 80—and thinks, well, there are
so many of them that even if they did throw something in there,
stuff something in,
they’re still so much [ __ ]
more numerous than we are. And this is exactly how
they keep psychologically pressuring us. Why did they
need turnout so badly? Why did they
want everyone to go vote so much? They didn’t care—
they were placing ads everywhere anyway.
Everyone, come out and vote however you like.
Because right from the start they put the number at 1.
Just cast it — they don’t care what your
vote is. But then, once you’ve gone in, they
demoralize and shock you so much that
you simply came, voted, and then
you saw — you saw the exit polls for
Moscow, and people started writing to us:
55 percent — now we’ll beat them there — and
then bam, they pull out a club that says
78 percent on it and hit you over the
head with it, and you get sad and say there’s
nothing to be done. My God, I’m alone, everyone around me is
an idiot, I need to leave, I need to get out of the
country — or just retreat into some kind of
internal exile, and so on. Well,
that is absolutely the wrong thing to do.
Nothing truly momentous happened.
Let’s be honest: in Russia, not yesterday, not
the day before, not two weeks ago — not a single
law has actually worked. We’ve known for
the last 15 years that Putin is president for life.
Those people who didn’t
deceive themselves have always said — perhaps bluntly, but
stating the obvious — of course Putin
usurped power in order to remain
president for life. We knew that. He
has now taken another step toward it, but no laws
were working anyway, no constitution was
being applied. They were breaking journalists’ arms, and
they continue to break journalists’ arms. This
particular step, from the point of view
of
its consequences for Putin, I’m sure, will
actually be more negative than positive. Because
first of all, all those state employees — they really were
herded into it. If in Moscow
1.5 million people
were forced to register, then all those
1.5 million people know perfectly well
that they were forced to register. And
a huge number of people didn’t even
understand what these amendments were about. By the way,
there’s a great video from our headquarters in Omsk.
They’re interviewing people at a polling
station and asking: do you even know
what
what’s in these amendments? Let’s watch
a short clip. “I’ll read the amendments
later.” “No, I’ve already made my choice, I voted, well...”
“I’ll read the amendments later.”
“No, I haven’t read that yet.” “Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.”
“Then try this one. Which number is it?” “You don’t know?”
That’s how it was. So once again I’m
trying to avoid saying, “I told you so,” but
according to our polling, a huge number of people —
we saw it ourselves — some 30 to 40
percent of people had no idea that
this was about resetting the term count.
We know because here we
discuss it endlessly among ourselves. Those who
read newspapers, those who are interested
in politics, knew about it. Everyone else
was told it was about all sorts of things — about dogs, about
raising your spiritual values, about
how we won’t give away
our territories, because without these constitutional amendments
the Japanese will take the Kuril Islands and the Americans
will take Crimea from us, or something
like that will happen. Great — so people went and voted for
pension indexation. We shouldn’t underestimate
how little people understood. But now
a huge number of them, first of all,
have simply seen with their own eyes what an
monstrous fraud it was.
And again, we shouldn’t forget:
there are 90,000 election commissions in the country.
Ninety thousand election commissions — and all those
election commissions now know that
it was all a complete sham.
A total, absolute deception. Everyone knows
that none of this was real. And now, when
United Russia and Putin start telling us
that this was supposedly
a referendum of confidence, a huge
number of people — including that
gentleman there — will understand what these
amendments were really about. And again, the whole country
saw these absolutely wonderful, wonderful
polling stations. I won’t deny myself the
pleasure — in the last program
I did a top 7 of the best polling stations —
but I won’t deny myself the pleasure
of showing you my favorite one again:
the polling station that was located
in a supermarket cart. Please show it to us.
These are great videos — yes, that one.
There was a video there — no video? Then
we have a photo of the supermarket cart.
There were tree stumps used for voting, voting on a bench
by an apartment entrance, and there’s also this very heartfelt video
where women are singing on a bench near
the entrance. Let’s take a look.
[music]
These sweet, nice women who
gathered there on a lovely day and sang
a song — but they also saw that the voting
was taking place on a bench, and they saw that
voting was happening out of car trunks, and
millions, tens of millions of people
watched
a scene that was unusual for them. We had
never seen voting like this before —
these obviously strange, unprecedented forms of it —
but they saw them, and now they’re being
shown our Ella Alexandrovna (Ella Pamfilova, head of Russia’s Central Election Commission),
who says that all of this is a lie,
that there were no tree stumps, no car trunks, and
that the entire vote was conducted perfectly.
She is insisting on this quite
persistently. Let’s listen — two
minutes and ten seconds. I don’t mind
giving that airtime to Ella Alexandrovna
as she now tries to prove to all
those people who saw with their own eyes
the tree stumps,
the benches, and everything else, that none of it
ever happened. Unfortunately, believe it or not...
No, but those who don’t believe it should try for themselves.
Try looking for actual facts and evidence, because apart from
reposts, mockery, and other, excuse me,
“someone said so” gossip and one blogger’s
made-up story that ten others reprinted—go look for
something concrete. Have you even tried? So far, mostly
we haven’t seen any of it. Mostly it’s either pulled
out of thin air or, let’s say, half-truths. And as for
violence, it’s outright lies. But unfortunately,
unfortunately—or fortunately, if you look at it another way—
that means we are working better than
those who are trying
to discredit voting in Russia would like.
Come on, you know,
the mission of my Central
Election Commission and my colleagues in
the regions may be subjected there
to unfair attacks, unfair
accusations. I have said more than once that
sometimes even a half-truth is worse than a lie.
A half-truth, when thrown out by someone who knows
exactly what they are doing, is something we are used to.
But when people start mocking
ordinary people—I watched all of it,
this whole performance about
voting in courtyards and near people’s homes.
And you know, I simply felt ashamed.
Ashamed not for our people—those women running around,
our people, most of them far from young,
with worn hands and aching legs.
They carry all those heavy boxes,
they go around villages to reach elderly men,
old women left on their own, those living nearby,
following their requests. And then some young
healthy punk, excuse me, well-fed
and doing just fine,
educated in this very system
that he claims to hate, you know, like
Malchish-Kibalchish (a Soviet literary boy hero) in his own mind—there he is,
crawling on all fours or crouching down behind
a bush, taking pictures: “What the hell is this, a stump?”
They sat down there.
Excuse me, but if you are
young and healthy, how can you not be ashamed?
If you’re an observer and you are genuinely
interested in what is happening, then
help those women instead of just
watching them struggle under that weight. And all of this, apparently,
becomes the basis for songs and, excuse me, dances.
I believe this is mockery,
plain and simple—mockery of people.
The people understand everything. It all turns these so-called
so-called
political… 91,000 people are watching this live,
watching live, and I hope that at least
45,000 people are crying right now
simply because
these are just actors who don’t have
an Oscar. Ella Pamfilova is really, truly—she
is upset, she is emotional, she is ashamed for those
people who mocked voting on
stumps.
After all, none of that happened, and yet
these big healthy guys keep going on and on about it.
And fine—let her speak,
because, as she rightly said,
the people understand everything, the people know
perfectly well how all of this was arranged.
Listen, Moscow’s population
suddenly increased by 7 percent in a single day. What
happened? Today, Open Media
published an article about it. How is that possible?
This is a gigantic city, the largest in
Europe.
For its population to increase by 7
percent, there would have to be
nothing less than
a mass migration of peoples. What was it—
did the Mongol-Tatars or the Huns arrive in Moscow?
No, it was Ella Pamfilova or Vladimir
Putin dumping in votes. They literally
just fabricated them out of nowhere compared
with the previous elections, which
were held quite recently. How could the
population have increased by 7 percent? That’s how—
they simply stuffed in those
votes, that’s all. And the same thing happened in Moscow:
45 percent early turnout, 45 percent.
Can you believe that half of Moscow
went and voted early, while on
the actual voting day there were almost no voters at all?
It comes out to only about 10
percent. The polling stations stood empty, but before that
everyone had supposedly already voted, and they expect
us to believe it. But everyone knows
how they got that early turnout.
Everyone saw it—relatives did too. And the people
see it and understand everything. And when the people
see this kind of abuse, which
virtually every
elderly person in the country was subjected to, when
first and foremost employees
from election commissions went through the lists
from social welfare offices and visited old people who
could barely understand anything—there is a rather disturbing
video, 1 minute 17 seconds long, where they are simply
essentially tormenting an elderly
person because they need to get
votes. Let’s watch.
[music]
This is your choice, and
[music]
put a check mark or a cross.
[music]
[music]
A gift certificate for the girl later,
she’ll explain afterward what needs to be done here. Oh,
they’ll explain it to the girl later.
Later, yes, yes.
So you understand the degree of
vileness here? It’s not even just “for the new Russia” anymore,
you don’t even need to say more than: “Are you for Russia,”
for Nazi Germany, are you for Russia or for
the people who have just taken away my pension?” I mean,
that is,
it’s abuse, and the people understand everything.
The people understand perfectly well that these
percentages for Putin are obtained in exactly this way.
would have been done, and if they could have,
done otherwise, he would have gone for a proper
referendum. He would have rigged it, he would have
campaigned there, there would have been massive
propaganda, but he would at least have tried
to win in a referendum where
there are at least a few observers. But
our Vladimir
Vladimirovich got scared, lost his nerve, and at that moment he
lost. It is very important to understand this well and
to be fully aware of it. In Mordovia (a republic in Russia),
they were making a report about how early
voting was just really great and
very honest, and so, well, you know,
Mordovia is roughly like Chechnya when it comes
to voting patterns, so in Mor-
they had become so relaxed that while they were filming all this,
their footage actually captured
a ballot-stuffing moment. They deleted it all, but
one fragment remained. Let's watch it. You have
two seconds. Also, no one had any
questions about the legitimacy of the process.
The voting process is proceeding
in an organized manner. No violations were observed.
No violations
were observed. No violations were observed.
Near the ballot box, there were constantly
observers from political
parties and public associations.
No violations were observed. Well, just imagine
a polling station, and local Mordovian television arrived there to film.
Local Mordovian television came to shoot footage,
and of course, when television is filming,
everyone dressed up.
They sit there and try to make it look like
some kind of normal process, but even during
this process they say, come on, let's do
what's needed there, film it, please,
show it, please, we'll film her
putting the ballot into the box, and
she takes a stack and stuffs it in, and they film it.
This is normal. As our friend
Yelena Malysheva says, "This is normal, this is how it works."
A huge scandal was caused
simply by a video that was published
by a Moscow...
It was very, very revealing: a Moscow
family came to vote at a Moscow
polling station and discovered that
all of them already had check marks next to their names.
In Moscow, all of them already had check marks next to their names.
And it's very interesting how
the events unfold. First, the person who
was sitting right by the voter register
got scared because
they had been caught red-handed. Here are the people, here are
the check marks next to the surnames. What
do you do? And then an older woman comes over,
and we see how instantly the system
switches and says, "Oh yeah? Prove it."
Look, let's watch it, this is really a great
moment.
[music]
Look, this is my daughter.
[music]
This is a separate criminal
case. How can you accept this? It was just
a violation right there, well yes, there it is.
That moment, did you see it?
"Prove it." Your vote was literally just
stolen from you — that is, they stole your vote, they are
criminals. They took everything from your family.
"Prove it." She took the folder for herself,
that's it, and she's holding it. What will happen to this woman
is a big question, a big question. Most
likely, nothing, because the system will
protect all such people, and the system
from the start guaranteed all these
people: do whatever you want, it doesn't matter.
This video caused a stir
precisely because of that sheer brazenness — that
"Prove it." I watched it
several times, and it really, really makes my blood
boil a little every time you watch
it. But that is how things are set up here.
There are a lot of questions here about the Nenets Autonomous Okrug (a federal district in Russia).
One person asks why in the Nenets
Autonomous Okrug, 54 percent voted against it,
while in other regions everything was different with
the results. Regular viewers of our
program know this very well: the Nenets Autonomous Okrug is
a small federal subject
with very high salaries, where
the level of falsification has traditionally been low.
I told you, probably even in
two programs in a row quite recently, that
all the residents of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug were recently enraged by
the federal center,
which announced that it would hold
a referendum and merge them
with Arkhangelsk Region, and for all local
residents
this was a really important issue, because
it means benefits, it's an oil-and-gas
region, salaries are high there, and they value
their small autonomy and their
relatively prosperous life, and there really
everyone there just went furious, at Putin and
simply went and voted against it, and also
basically refused to falsify the results.
Interestingly, this is developing in such
a way that I saw an article today saying that
some pro-Putin political analyst
named Marat Bashirov actually stated, by the way,
that now, there in the Nenets
Autonomous Okrug, those who
voted against it will have to
pay for it — that's a literal quote. So
basically: you voted against
Vladimir Vladimirovich,
now you will pay for it. It will be very
interesting to see how events develop.
But well done to the residents of the Nenets Autonomous
Okrug.
And this is simply, in pure form, a situation
that the Kremlin created for itself. They
pushed into it, people got angry, and then
no one bothered falsifying anything, and that was that.
and even this whole system, this system
of outright, total falsification didn't work
because here, well, as he shouts
he threatens, or there, there, really at
the level of the elite, probably the governor wanted
more, but everyone else kind of didn't
join in this system of total
fraud. It will be interesting to see what happens next there
what will happen, but it's interesting
it's striking that repressing people for
disagreeing with this referendum, they in
the regions
have tried and are trying in all seriousness
because on the one hand they said that
no rules or laws apply here
are in force
those were the official responses, and no
campaigning—no campaigning at all—is restricted
because it is not regulated by law
because this vote, it is not
regulated by law. But for example
in Voskresensk, a person simply hung on
their balcony a banner saying, "I am against the amendments"
well, it would seem, right: "I am against the amendments." You
would assume what happened? You probably
think someone from
building management came, called, and said
something like, "Stepanych, please deal with them"
our local mayor doesn't like it
the police came, the firefighters came
in order to take down this banner. The whole 10-
second message: a person is against the amendments
had expressed their view
Volkov didn't hang it up
the police arrived immediately
the police
the firefighters
now they're going to fuss and take it down
not allowed
[music]
the person here gathered
people are gradually coming over
[applause]
brother, rights or not, it doesn't matter anyway
why these cases of campaigning are so great—I've
been saying it constantly: campaigning, campaigning,
campaigning. They'll draw whatever results they want, and
they built a system that will produce
the results they need. All those 78, well
that means 78 percent had been planned in advance
but when someone hangs something on a balcony, then
who cares what the result will be? People walk around
people understand: so I'm not the only one after all
they forced me to vote, but someone in our
building hung something on their balcony, and someone somewhere else
spoke out, so of course
they react immediately, and so on
they rush over and take it down. By the way, those who have long
followed my work know that in 2013
when I ran for mayor of Moscow
one form of campaigning that we
used simply drove Sobyanin (then Moscow mayor)
up the wall. They deployed
an entire, I don't know, team of climbers because
we made banners that
said "For Navalny," and told
people: hang them on your balcony, and from
the rooftops they rappelled down, tore them off, climbed up on
ladders and ripped them down, because it is exactly
this kind of campaigning that drives them crazy
because their task is to intimidate us with their
nonexistent percentages so that we
sit there and think, "Oh, 78, that's scary." But if
you see it on this balcony, on that balcony
you understand there's nothing there—none of that 78
percent. Yes, it instantly
changes people. That's why: campaigning, campaigning,
campaigning. In Syktyvkar, amusingly, two
young women staged some kind of action; they
put on a performance called
"The Last Amendments." Let's take a look—it's all of
2 seconds
well, frankly, nothing especially dangerous
for the Putin regime. Let's watch
well, it's like a performance, a strange
artistic, maybe political, maybe
artistic action. They posted it online
and online it was seen by practically no one
yet an administrative case was opened against
them for distributing information
that insults the Constitution of the Russian
Federation
because this is exactly what they fear. For them
when a person goes to a polling station and
votes, they'll just rewrite it anyway
but if you do something in order to
move even one person to react
simply draw the attention of even one person
that is already treated as something dangerous
I just want to urge everyone once again—there are many
questions about what to do, how we will proceed
in September, what we will do afterward, but for now
overall, despite the fact that right now
everyone is a little tense and upset
by this result, the situation is shaping up
very well for Smart Voting, for
defeating United Russia, for defeating
Putin. What do we need? We need
people who are strongly opposed to this government—there are
20 to 30 percent of them, and they exist. This
nationwide vote has directly
added a few new percentage points for us
of people who are genuinely irritated, enraged, or at least
very dissatisfied. Plus all this COVID
plus the fact that they didn't help anyone—people
don't like what's happening, and therefore
the conditions for our work are very good
31 regions—large, huge regions
huge cities: Novosibirsk, Tomsk
Chelyabinsk, Voronezh. There is a problem, of course
yes, but right now 97,000 people
are watching live—that's a lot
you're all great, thank you for watching
Moscow, St. Petersburg
life is arranged in such a way that
residents of Moscow and
St. Petersburg who are opposition-minded think that more or less
the election in Voronezh doesn't matter
It’s like election zero.
Not in the Republic of Chad, or in some community somewhere.
No, that’s some kind of nonsense, it’s not at all...
There’s no politics there at all, none whatsoever — there are actually 31...
regions, regions like yours.
lawless places like Tambov, where there is...
By the way, our team is really great.
And there will be a real battle there the whole time.
They rig things, but it’s genuinely difficult, yes, but...
They will fight. There are regions where, with...
the help of Smart Voting, we will deprive...
United Russia of its majority, or at least...
at a minimum, throw out a lot of United Russia members.
That is exactly why the authorities already want to...
make voting last seven days. Already in...
September it will be difficult — we will need thousands...
thousands and thousands of observers, and once again one of our...
most important tools will be...
this program.
Through it, I’ll simply drive you...
crazy with my appeals: come on...
sign up as observers, come and...
vote. We will do all of this, and we...
will be able to make an impact there — not everywhere...
But can they really falsify things if...
there is an observer and if there is some kind of...
procedure? It is possible to throw United Russia out.
That’s why they are so afraid, that’s why they are so...
worried, that’s why they are trying so hard...
to intimidate us with these 78 percent...
these 78 percent. The most important thing is your...
effort. As the saying goes, without effort you can’t even catch a fish...
from a pond. Just imagine: Putin, his...
administration, all executive bodies...
of power...
in the regions — that’s thousands of people, tens of...
thousands of people who every day do something...
to strengthen Putin’s power.
Millions of person-hours.
We will achieve nothing until we ourselves...
put in millions of person-hours.
Think of any political events...
of recent times. If I ask you...
what independent thing happened in...
politics that caught your attention over...
the last 15 years or so, you would say...
there were protests in 2011...
there were protests, protests in Odesa, but...
then there were huge demonstrations. It was...
such hard work to organize those...
demonstrations. First of all, at first there was...
the campaign “for any party except United...
Russia.”
Then everyone worked like crazy to gather...
people, wrote posts, organized...
came up with new actions. Then there was...
my 2013 campaign for mayor...
of Moscow, which also, well, in many ways...
changed politics in the country. It was...
just enormous work overall...
the work of thousands of people, and there was an enormous...
a huge number of volunteers who...
for practically nothing hauled around those campaign cubes (street canvassing stands).
The rallies “He Is Not Dimon to You” (an anti-corruption protest slogan referring to Dmitry Medvedev).
But that didn’t happen by itself. It wasn’t just that we said...
I recorded a little video and said, “Let’s hold rallies.”
We organized 80 headquarters in 80 locations...
submitted applications, distributed...
videos, wrote things — in other words, we invested...
invested, invested, invested the work of my...
movement.
In 2018, I was not...
registered, but there were, I don’t know...
those nomination groups...
in a huge number of regions, and I...
held dozens of huge rallies across...
the whole country. But that work — I nearly died...
while traveling around and holding those rallies, just...
endlessly. That’s why we need to invest ourselves.
Without each person’s contribution, we...
won’t achieve anything. Of course, you want...
of course you want there to be...
some kind of dramatic event that overturns...
the elections, or Putin just runs away himself...
or they betray Putin, or something...
hits him on the head like a brick — but that’s not...
how it works. We have to do all of this, we have to...
go out into the streets. Without rallies, without...
mass actions, nothing at all...
will work. Because right now they...
are very afraid of Smart Voting, but...
what they fear most is the consequences.
Because they won’t allow our candidates into Smart...
Voting, and then we will go...
out.
The residents of Novosibirsk or Tambov will come out and...
protest.
And what are they supposed to do with them...
disperse them, shoot them? What would the...
further consequences be? That is what they...
are afraid of: when people start coming out into the...
streets.
And all the rest of the people will notice you for it.
Without these systematic...
efforts, nothing will work. Putin has been in power for 20 years...
Putin is in power.
Look how spry he is, swimming in the pool...
and, I don’t know, somewhere in Russia they’re...
probably just now sewing him a new...
cybernetic leg and all that sort of thing, and...
he’ll sit there for another 20 years.
And we’ll keep worrying. I’ll already be...
sitting here completely gray-haired...
and all that, and we’ll be making a lot of...
jokes about how it’s unclear who...
has been around longer — the authorities or...
the opposition. But without these real...
investments of effort from each of us, without...
your, say, five hours...
that you invest in this work...
nothing will work. And in September, we have...
a really excellent chance to hit back at them.
We don’t know what will happen. We...
do know there will be a sophisticated fight against...
us, against Smart Voting — a super...
sophisticated fight. In Novosibirsk, for example...
for example, an entire coalition has been put forward there...
against the current authorities, which...
is essentially a merger of United Russia
and the Communists. This coalition is led by
Sergei Boyko, the man who came
in second place in the mayoral election
in Novosibirsk—that is, the most popular
opposition politician. This coalition
will knock out United Russia. Tomorrow they won’t
register anyone. What needs to be done in this
situation? We’ll have to think: either they won’t
register the strong candidates, and they’ll register
the weak ones. It will be a very difficult road with
hard decisions, but without the investment of
everyone’s effort
nothing will work. There’s no such thing as
still saying, after all,
“I’m still me, which means I’m not sitting on the couch, because
I went and voted, but overall, whatever happens there
somewhere out there,”
“I don’t really like hanging out.” Everyone
has to sacrifice at least something.
Everyone has to go, everyone has to
go hand out leaflets. Most importantly,
everyone should write down on a piece of paper the circle
of their acquaintances and friends, and each one should be
persuaded, at least a little. Put something up in
your apartment building entrance, hang a leaflet, and so on.
It may sound very primitive, but
Putin’s approval rating, as I explained in my
last video, is the foundation. So we
need right now, from this Putin-loyal, brainwashed
mass, to knock out 10 percent—just
10 percent. Once we knock them out
from there, the whole thing will simply fall apart.
And Putin understands this very well, because
right now everything is being held together basically by
intimidation. And that intimidation works
very well. It showed itself very clearly
in the remarkable story involving
Andrei Malakhov, which I want
to use to wrap up this broadcast. It’s a pretty good
example. So, Andrei Malakhov works,
of course, for Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel),
but he didn’t seem to have been publicly involved
in any overt political actions, and then
this unpleasant thing happened to him. Mikhail
Zygar is a well-known journalist. He
puts on these kind of audio performances
that—I haven’t taken part in them, so I find it hard
to say exactly.
They give you headphones, you walk around listening
to some audio as you walk through Moscow, and
it just so happened that at the same time, during
the voting, people dissatisfied with it began gathering on Pushkinskaya Square
and there
part of the tour was passing through. So there go
Zygar, Malakhov, and some other people—
all media figures, recognizable journalists.
Naturally, people start photographing them,
and everyone starts writing, “Andrei Malakhov came out to
Pushkinskaya Square”—well, rather, to protest,
and the man got so scared
that he immediately
recorded a video to justify himself, like,
“Good Lord, I happened to be out on the street, and they asked me there
whether Malakhov was protesting—of course not,”
“I was just passing by accidentally.” But now even that is no longer
enough—you have to record a special
video explaining that you were there
by accident, that you’re not in the opposition, and that you
just voted in favor of the
amendments. Here is Andrei Malakhov’s little 29-second disgrace:
“Friends, I’m just furious. You know, all it took was for me, for once in my life, to go to this mobile theater
once in my life, by invitation from
Katya Varnava and Sasha
Molochnikov, and as a result you get
lumped in with the people gathered on Pushkinskaya
Square. Calm down, yes, I’m outside politics.
I voted today for the constitutional amendments,
so have a good evening, everyone,
take care of yourselves and your loved ones.”
Andrei Malakhov is losing his mind over the thought that
someone might think he didn’t vote
for the amendments. It’s a perfect illustration of
what we understand: that poor Andrei
Malakhov
if he voted at all, most likely
voted against, and of how all this
is arranged, and of what a complete fiction
the whole thing rests on. There is no 78 percent.
This vote is a complete fake,
a forgery. We do not recognize it, and now we
need to come together, get to work, and crush
—forgive the word—United Russia in
September, and prepare to simply
tear it apart in the elections.
It will be hard with the State Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament), but no one
except us is going to do this. Many
thanks to everyone who watched. See you
next Thursday. Bye.
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