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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly

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20:00, 8 p.m. That means

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that *Russia of the Future* is live on air,

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and I’m its host, Alexei

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Navalny.

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Or, this week, the man whom

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Armenian television is showing, and because

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of that fact, Armenian television has apparently

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caused Vladimir

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Solovyov to explode into tiny pieces. I’ll gladly show you

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47 seconds of how Armenia ceased to be

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a friendly country for Vladimir Solovyov,

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because they showed me. Here it is:

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We love Armenia so much, such a friendly

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country to us, and look whom they are showing

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in friendly Armenia, with commentary

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about the voting. In Armenia, they are showing on

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Armenian Public Television, as part of

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their reports on the voting

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on the constitutional amendments, the Nazi

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Navalny, who called Armenians “khachs” (a Russian ethnic slur for people from the Caucasus),

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who hates Armenians, hates

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Armenia, despises it—and you, Armenian

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Public Television, put this

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man on the air and broadcast him yourselves.

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Well, that’s really something. Unbelievable.

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So that’s how our Italian Waldemar

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shamed all of Armenia. I think

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everyone at Armenian Public Television

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must of course be very ashamed. I don’t know, dear

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Vladimir Rudolfovich,

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where you got all these things

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you made up that I supposedly said about Armenians, but

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really, when we’re talking about Nazis—

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seriously, you made an entire film

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glorifying Mussolini, and now you’re going to accuse me

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of being a Nazi? And let me remind you that

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with the hashtag **#RussiaOfTheFuture**

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you can ask me questions, write

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questions on Twitter, and send your suggestions,

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opinions, and so on. I’ll read them out

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and try to answer them. You can also

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become a subscriber to our channel,

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a sponsor, a friend—there’s a link, and through

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that link you can send ducks, and everyone else

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whose names are scrolling across the screen—and today this

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has a specific purpose.

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Usually we collect funds simply for

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supporting Navalny Live, but this time

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it’s for something important, which, by the way,

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shows us that

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elections—real elections—and the entire

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political process

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are not just some thing that

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you know, happened once, like there was

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that vote on “zeroing out” presidential terms,

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we discuss it now and then forget it because

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it won’t happen again. No—when there is

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a real political struggle, when there are

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elections like the ones we took part in

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a year ago, they catch up with us, they keep catching up with us.

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We forced the Kremlin,

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a year ago, to pay a price for

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everything they did. And with the help of

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Smart Voting, we got some

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people into the Moscow City Duma.

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We made them pay a price for the fact that

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they barred independent candidates. And now

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they are making us pay money.

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Yesterday—or even today, I think—there came into force

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the court rulings: Sobol and Alburov owe

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1.5 million rubles to the road authorities,

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all the independent candidates owe the prosecutor’s office

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1.2 million rubles. Next, Sobol

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and Alburov will also owe the prosecutor’s office

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another million. Alburov and Sobol also owe

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the Moscow Metro 600,000 rubles.

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And besides that, everyone except

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Georgy Alburov—including me—we owe

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the Armenia restaurant 240,000 rubles. Which brings us

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back to the subject of Armenian television. And so

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therefore,

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there’s really no way this can work other

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than as a mutual aid fund, you understand.

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This was our common campaign. The Kremlin,

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Putin, Sobyanin—whoever—they all decided

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on the following scheme: if these guys want to protest,

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we’ll make them pay—one ruble, a hundred rubles,

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if everyone chips in together, it’s not hard.

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Without your help, we can’t handle it, so

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please follow this link,

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send a duck, and the money from

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that duck will gradually go either to the Armenia restaurant

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or to the Moscow Metro.

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But in any case, there is no doubt that sooner

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or later, in the European Court of Human Rights, we

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are appealing there, and despite this

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constitutional reset, we will still be able to

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challenge it. I don’t doubt that for a single

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second. Besides, of course, in the beautiful

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Russia of the future, all these people will repay us

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a hundredfold for all the tricks

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they pulled. As I most often try

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to do at the beginning of the program, while

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people are still gathering—you are now 49,000

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people watching live, and I hope

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more will join—I want to talk about

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topics that are important and super important, but

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which were, of course, simply swallowed up by the huge

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voting story. Right now nobody is discussing anything

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except the vote, and

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for some time they won’t be. But nevertheless,

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over the past week, since

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last Thursday, there have been, it seems to me,

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some

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rather extraordinary events

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that really show who the masters

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of Russia are. It’s clear enough that it’s people like Putin,

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Rotenberg, and so on, but it becomes

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so absolutely crystal clear

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in certain specific situations,

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especially outside Moscow. At Norilsk

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Nickel, a gigantic industrial complex, the largest

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enterprise in Russia, one of the largest

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enterprises in the world, which was grabbed up

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by two oligarchs, Potanin and Prokhorov, and now

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Prokhorov is now simply—sorry,

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Potanin, because they simply took it away for nothing.

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For free, at the loans-for-shares auction.

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Well, what they did—Prokhorov, excuse me, not...

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Prokhorov, Potanin—Prokhorov too, for that matter...

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I do not feel sorry for him at all; he also bears...

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responsibility for the ruin of Norilsk Nickel.

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For the fact that they carried out there...

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absolutely no environmental...

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measures, built no treatment facilities at all.

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Well then, you and I have often...

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discussed how they caused a real...

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environmental catastrophe, the largest in...

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the Arctic. Potanin has not paid a single kopeck for it yet.

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Not a kopeck. We can see that there, you just...

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nothing is happening there. And then, this...

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This week, *Novaya Gazeta* simply started...

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people got interested, went there, and filmed what...

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it turns out that Norilsk Nickel...

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simply takes these spent chemical wastes...

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they just make a huge pipe and...

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dump it into the river. At 1 minute 19 seconds, this is how...

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this is how it happens.

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The disposal of liquid toxic waste at...

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Norilsk Nickel.

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And from other tailings storage sites they take...

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water in which they find up to 1 ton of metal.

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Nickel, cobalt...

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surfactants—through this...

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orange pumping station...

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they pump it through.

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And then it goes—now we will see.

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I... in the sands... clear... press with me...

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Photographer Yuri Kot... former...

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employees... his...

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In the fall, Ryabinin and Greenpeace activists...

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We are moving up along the pipe...

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This is the edge of the tailings pond, the pipe is...

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further on, and it spills over through...

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And that is it. And further on, I can simply...

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show you this video for a long time: it is just a pipe...

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it simply dumps everything into the river, into the local...

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lake. And you simply have to understand...

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that Norilsk Nickel is...

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an enterprise that, in net profit...

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brings its shareholders—mainly Potanin—

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more than a billion dollars. In other words, these people...

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are simply swimming in money.

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All because they grabbed an old—well, at the time...

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not actually that old—

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Soviet plant and are simply squeezing...

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everything they can out of it. This plant has enough...

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money; they just need to raise...

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their costs a little in order to build some...

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proper facilities, but...

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Potanin simply minimizes his...

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expenses and maximizes profit by...

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simply taking this toxic...

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waste and just pouring it out everywhere. And this...

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has been going on for years and years and years. This...

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is not even the whole story. The most...

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outrageous part of the story happened...

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later. *Novaya Gazeta* and Greenpeace activists filmed all of this.

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Sergei Mitrokhin then went there.

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A deputy of the Moscow City Duma, I know him...

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very well; I worked with him for many years.

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These days Sergei Mitrokhin is not always very...

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critical of the authorities, but at least...

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on environmental issues he has always...

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been a real fighter—Mitrokhin.

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Together with environmentalists, they went and took...

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samples there.

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That is, roughly speaking, stones and soil around...

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around this enterprise, around Norilsk...

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Nickel—they basically just went into the forest...

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dug up some soil in the forest...

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and took a water sample, then brought it...

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to Moscow in order to hand it over to...

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laboratories and determine the degree of contamination.

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What happened at the airport? At the airport...

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literally...

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they were stopped not by some private security at...

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Norilsk Nickel, but by government employees...

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who work in this whole...

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aviation security system. They, excuse me, were simply...

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searched, forced to take out all their belongings, and...

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forbidden...

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forbidden from taking anything away. Simply put, they were told:

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"You know, you cannot take anything out of...

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here without the combine's permission." That is...

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the combine—meaning Potanin. And really...

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the owners control the airport there.

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There was also a long recording, and there was...

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the phrase...

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"report to Norilsk Nickel," even though...

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the airport security staff...

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they are government employees; they do not...

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cannot even be reporting to...

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some private individual.

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Nevertheless, Potanin owns basically...

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everything there. You cannot fly out...

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of Norilsk if Potanin does not want...

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you to. You cannot take these...

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samples out. And again, this was not some ordinary person...

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it was a fairly well-known person, a deputy, but...

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even so, let us look at this...

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recording from the airport. Honestly...

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speaking, it is just infuriating.

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Right now it is inconsistent...

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All samples are transported only if there is...

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documentation. Show the documents under which...

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Show the documents. On what...

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grounds? Why are you not... why are you...

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demanding this without any grounds, and...

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Do not forget: from the territory of Norilsk...

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nothing is taken out without permission...

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Permission from whom, exactly? Tell me.

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Permission from the combine.

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Do you understand? With the combine's permission. And yes...

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not the FSB, not the prosecutor's office, not the Center, no...

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So I get off the plane, and then...

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[ __ ] and the customs officers—obviously the FSB told them...

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they needed to check what she had...

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in her bag. That too is lawlessness, of course.

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Absolutely. My family there—I remember...

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a child was traveling, and they even took apart a Nintendo to...

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see what was inside, but...

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At the very least, these are some kind of people,

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this lawless state is made up of people

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who have been given authority, and they

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use that authority in order to

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protect a corrupt regime. But these are

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at least formally state

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employees, vested with the right to search

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someone. Here, it’s just some kind of

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petty thug sitting there at Norilsk Nickel, and

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he calls Potanin and says, “Potanin, what

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are we going to do? They’ve taken samples here,

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they’ll take them to Moscow and tell everyone

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that for years we’ve simply been

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polluting everything.” And Potanin says,

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“What are you, children? Have them stopped at the airport,

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tell them that without permission

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from our people nothing can be taken out, everything

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will be confiscated, and they might even be put on a plane

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— they should be grateful you let them leave.”

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This is being done by nothing more than some

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oligarchic crook, together in this

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arrangement with some completely civilian

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people from the industrial plant.

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That’s who the masters of the land are. This whole Putin

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vertical of power

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is exactly about this: the fact that

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there is no order at all, there is only

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a colossal mess.

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And again, as I said on the previous

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program, of course at Norilsk Nickel there are

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FSB officers assigned there,

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there is formally a department of internal

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affairs and various other agencies, but they simply

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are all effectively on Norilsk Nickel’s payroll,

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they all get their money from there.

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So in the end, an entire

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chunk of the state is serving

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specifically and only Potanin; another chunk

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of the state serves specifically and only

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Lisin; a third serves only

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Usmanov; a fourth serves Rotenberg. That’s

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how it turns out, you see: this

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so-called Putin vertical, this “order”

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he supposedly established, and so on—there is no

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order at all. Potanin can do whatever he wants

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to any resident of Norilsk

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Nickel—or to you.

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If you come there, to Norilsk,

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how is this any different from the damned ’90s? When I

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was involved in various court cases

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with major companies and sued them

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over corruption, simply buying

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a small block of shares

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and using our rights as shareholders, there was

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a well-known case: the company

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Surgutneftegaz, which in much the same way

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ruled over the city of Surgut in its time,

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used to do things like this.

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Well, when some inspection or visit was

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coming, if there were people they didn’t like, they

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would simply not let the plane land in Surgut. Everyone

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would be told, “Fly on from here to wherever

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you want—we’ve got bad weather.”

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Because they had been informed that such people were flying in,

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and they didn’t like those people.

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Or the other way around: if they didn’t

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want you to leave, you wouldn’t leave,

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because they’d say the weather was bad and there would be

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no departure. But that was

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something abstract to me—I never personally

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experienced it. I always heard it as

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stories about the terrible, cursed ’90s. But now

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the exact same thing, absolutely the same thing, in an even

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worse form, is happening again—only now

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on camera, a woman says: “Yes, you can’t take anything out

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without

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the plant’s permission.” This whole story

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with Norilsk Nickel is something we all

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need to watch very closely, because

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it has clearly already become not only

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an environmental issue but a political one as well.

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This is political. There is a super-rich

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man, one of the richest people in

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Russia, one of the richest people

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in the world, who put in zero

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entrepreneurial effort, or really

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zero talent or anything of the sort, to

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become this super-rich man.

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He simply stole

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a huge industrial complex during the loans-for-shares

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auction, and now he is poisoning everything around it.

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Once again, he doesn’t want to pay anything.

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He wants to extract, every year,

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$1.5 billion in profit

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by trading nickel from our land, essentially,

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and he doesn’t want to pay a

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single kopeck when he pollutes the entire

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Arctic around it. So of course we

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understand perfectly well that, in principle, perhaps

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I’m wrong when I say Potanin hasn’t paid

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a single kopeck—he has paid Rosprirodnadzor,

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that very environmental watchdog, which has already delivered

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a cartload of money to the Presidential Administration,

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two cartloads of money—I don’t know—to Alina Kabaeva,

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bought five airplanes, and so on and so on

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and so forth. But he doesn’t want to pay anything

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into the budget, and in any case all these

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gifts, bribes, and so on will be far

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less than a real fine and real

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compensation for the damage—and most importantly,

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the actual construction of treatment

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facilities. This is what it is very, very important

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to keep an eye on and to press these oligarchs over, because

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this is our Arctic.

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The Arctic is ours. So, VR asks:

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“Alexei, how can one become an observer at the autumn

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elections?” We’ll announce a call soon. I’m thinking about

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it—I just don’t want to simply say, “Guys,

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sign up in some spreadsheet.” We need

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an organized system, because we

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need to register thousands of people as

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observers. I’ll make the effort and

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we’ll propose some kind of orderly system.

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So yes, there are a lot of questions about the elections.

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And Inferno Overkill, our regular

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listener,

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asks whether Ardy, Lava, and Frenkel will bring

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anyone to account for this.

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lawlessness

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That’s an excellent question, and a really very important

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topic.

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I saw how it literally shook the entire

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information space, but it was also

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in a certain sense overshadowed by all

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the events that followed, because, you

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know, lawlessness is answered with more lawlessness.

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What happened to Frenkel faded a little into the

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background of what happened next. Even so, this is

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still a fundamentally important matter, and once

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again I want to address all journalists:

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this situation must not be let slide.

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David Frenkel, a journalist with the outlet Mediazona,

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came to a polling station

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because he had the authority

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as a media representative to observe.

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This was in the city of St. Petersburg,

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in St. Petersburg.

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We know how elections are rigged, and we

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know how these elections were rigged, and they

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really did not want

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Frenkel there as an observer. And so what happened?

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There was some shoving and pushing around, and then

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they simply broke the man’s arm. And there were many,

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a huge number of people who

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were filming all around; there are many videos

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in which you can practically, quite literally,

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see and hear his arm crunching. But

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I’ll show you a version that’s not quite so harrowing;

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still, it’s rather unpleasant

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to watch.

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Let’s call this “take the children away from the screens.”

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It’s pretty unpleasant, but it needs to be seen, and

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most importantly, you need to see

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the senselessness, stupidity, and harmfulness of all

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these people. A person wants

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to be an observer; he has every

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right to do so. And what does he get in

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return for exercising that right? They simply

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break his arm in front of everyone. Let’s watch.

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They’re trying to remove him right now.

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I mean, the degree of it is simply unimaginable—

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you are a journalist with

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every right to be here.

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These scoundrels in uniform simply break his arm,

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they throw him to the ground and just break his arm. Well,

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after that, a real

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bacchanalia began. Because everything was caught on camera, and

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things were starting to smell bad. And first of all,

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to begin with,

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an anonymous high-ranking source—

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the emphasis was on “high-ranking”—

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a source in the administration

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of St. Petersburg stated that, of course,

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Frenkel had broken his own arm.

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Literally: he came there, and then

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started either running around or doing something else,

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and somehow broke his own arm. Then

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there were reports that he had broken

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his arm in advance before coming there. I mean,

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you understand, this is that kind of

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“State Department stooge” logic: they’ll go in for any provocation,

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make any sacrifice, just to

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set up Ella Pamfilova (head of Russia’s Central Election Commission). So the man

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supposedly just, well, at Mediazona, asked

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editor-in-chief Smirnov—Sergei Smirnov—

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to say, “Let’s break my arm, I’ll go set them up,”

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and then he went off to frame Ella Pamfilova in that

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way. They wrote this in complete seriousness.

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Then, since there was a sea of video footage and,

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fortunately, things were looking very bad for them, everyone

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was outraged, there were hundreds of thousands of views—so what

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did they start doing? Instead of

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even trying, I don’t know,

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to do something about that police officer, they

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fabricated a fake exchange of messages in which Frenkel

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with some people was supposedly

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discussing how

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this whole thing was a provocation, that

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“come on, break my arm on camera,”

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“you’ll see, there’ll be tons of hype,”

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“we’ll shoot loads of videos.”

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It was all very obvious, just an obvious

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brazen fake,

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which in fact also strongly

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contradicted the video recordings. Because, well,

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maybe only complete idiots could

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have believed it if Frenkel had been

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shoving with some people here,

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civilians or people in plain clothes. But here

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you can plainly see that police officers

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throw him down, he screams, and his arm is broken.

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This fake exchange of messages

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was published by that so-called newspaper,

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Komsomolskaya Pravda.

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It has a circulation in the millions. And after that,

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when people caught them out and started rubbing their noses in it—

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“Guys, what are you even doing?”—then

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the editor-in-chief of Komsomolskaya Pravda

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said, “Well yes, we don’t know, maybe it’s fake,”

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“or maybe it’s real.” You see how it works:

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these people publish a fake

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message exchange, and then they say

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that it might be fake, that they can’t figure out

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whether it’s fake or not. Well,

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in the end, they didn’t

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remove anything, apparently.

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Now

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Peskov said that this incident

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must be investigated—an incident is an incident—

22:15

but for now their explanation is this:

22:19

the fish rots from the head.

22:21

The head of St. Petersburg, one of my favorite

22:23

officials, Beglov, said something like:

22:25

“Well, people got a little nervous there, we all

22:27

get tired of everything, it happens.”

22:29

No, it does not “just happen.” Fatigue

22:31

does not make someone break another person’s arm. Alexander

22:33

Beglov, 0:41.

22:37

“Of course it’s sad that he was injured.”

22:43

“As far as you know, I…”

22:47

“...and I will wait for the results.”

22:51

the results.

22:52

I would like to note that it is clear that

22:56

many people learned about

22:58

everyone has their own character, each person

23:01

has their own limits.

23:03

Sometimes there’s such a thing as excessive niceness.

23:09

an obsession with excessive enthusiasm and

23:12

and now we all—well, yes, of course it happens, but

23:19

Guys, come on—let’s be honest, and you

23:21

haven’t heard this before: that you were tired

23:24

or simply went and broke someone’s arm.

23:25

Well, sure, let every police officer

23:27

— explain it by saying, “We’re human, we’re tired, you know.”

23:29

You know, had a fight with his wife, sees someone walking by,

23:31

and decides to break his arm—just because, apparently.

23:34

Damn it, and it’s always someone giving you a pat on the shoulder

23:35

Let me put it plainly: we all know ordinary

23:39

human nature, and it’s just that

23:42

the sheer brazenness of all this—I understand that I

23:45

keep repeating this phrase on the show more than any other,

23:47

that the brazenness of all this is incredibly

23:49

infuriating—it really is.

23:50

A guy is standing there, a journalist, and he has

23:53

every right to be there—and you break his arm and tell

23:55

him, “We were tired.” This is some kind of warped reality—but whose

23:59

reality is it: Frenkel’s, the police’s, or

24:02

the election commission’s, which

24:03

was falsifying this whole thing? Compare it, by the way,

24:05

to that video, which was, I should say,

24:09

great—or rather terrible, but in its terribleness

24:12

there was at least a certain clarity, even a kind of grim brilliance.

24:14

From Kemerovo, where, as we know,

24:17

they apparently cooked up something like 90 percent turnout yesterday

24:21

and 95 percent in favor of Putin’s “renewal.”

24:23

Just compare that with the situation involving Frenkel,

24:25

who was demanding that we be allowed

24:29

to observe, and meanwhile in Kemerovo Region

24:32

there were two local bloggers

24:33

who saw that a man

24:36

had parked improperly, apparently on

24:39

a lawn, and they started filming him, well,

24:41

just filming him on a phone.

24:43

The man turned out to be a former police officer, and he

24:45

really, really didn’t like that.

24:47

And you know how these situations usually

24:50

tend to unfold.

24:52

The former police officer doesn’t like being filmed,

24:53

he yells, “Stop filming,”

24:56

pushes the camera away, or maybe grabs

24:58

the phone and smashes it, or something like that.

25:00

But this is Kemerovo.

25:02

This is Kemerovo, where anyone

25:05

connected to the authorities is expected to

25:09

throw that weight around and do whatever they want.

25:11

And against these two young men

25:13

they opened a criminal hooliganism case

25:15

because, supposedly, they were arguing

25:17

and

25:19

Let’s take a look at how their

25:22

detention happened—how the police broke in

25:24

to carry out a search. And just pay attention, once again:

25:27

they were filming on a phone. Nobody—

25:31

a police officer who had parked

25:33

improperly—and this is how

25:36

they entered their apartment

25:39

to conduct a search in connection with this

25:41

terrible crime: filming police officers.

25:43

26 seconds.

26:13

There’s no better comparison—they stormed it like they did at Zimnyaya Vishnya (the Winter Cherry mall in Kemerovo, site of the 2018 fire),

26:16

breaking in with their ladders and

26:18

supposedly rescuing people.

26:19

They smash the window, shout “Freeze!”, and I just—well,

26:22

I mean, what is the point of this assault at all?

26:27

Honestly, people, even if you’ve opened a case

26:29

for hooliganism against people who

26:31

were filming on a phone—because apparently it matters that

26:34

you were filming one of ours, even if he’s a former one—then sure, we’ll

26:36

go ahead, you understand, and conduct

26:38

a search—but the kind of search they’ll remember

26:40

forever: smashing your window with the help of

26:42

some special assault ladder.

26:44

And that’s what they do. But when it comes to

26:47

Frenkel at night—“we were tired.” That’s a completely

26:50

different matter, a different matter. Stas asks me:

26:53

“What do you think about the New People party?”

26:55

Just another spoiler party. Guys, of course

26:58

it’s just another spoiler—some kind of

27:01

crooks, really, it’s hard to put it any other way, just like

27:03

this whole Kremlin-run system where

27:06

amazing new parties suddenly appear

27:09

and get approved instantly.

27:11

Let me remind you that we tried to register our party under

27:14

several different names, some of which

27:16

they even stole from us, and we tried to register it

27:18

nine times. Every single time they told us,

27:20

“You don’t have enough people,” or “There’s an error.”

27:22

And then some party appears out of nowhere and it

27:24

gets registered immediately. Of course, these are all

27:26

completely Kremlin-controlled

27:28

parties, created so that they can

27:31

take part in State Duma elections

27:33

or, like right now, in various

27:37

regional parliament elections, because it’s

27:38

very important for the Kremlin that small parties

27:40

make it into legislative assemblies somewhere,

27:42

in any region, and then

27:44

they can move up to the federal level without having to collect signatures.

27:46

the federal level.

27:47

And then they can say, “What do you mean, there’s no

27:50

stagnation in the political system?”

27:53

“You don’t like that it’s the same thing over and over

27:55

again?”

27:55

“But we’ve got new faces, new

27:57

parties.” In fact, the party is literally

27:58

called that, guys—New People. So why

28:02

wouldn’t you vote for New People? But

28:03

it’s actually very easy

28:06

to tell the difference: just look and see

28:09

whether they say anything at all—any

28:10

criticism of the president. If they criticize

28:12

the president or United Russia, let’s say, with

28:15

specific facts—if there’s any real

28:17

criticism there—then you’ll see. And of course you’ll see that

28:19

there is no real criticism at all. It’s an

28:21

absolutely controlled

28:23

controlled party.

28:29

Zhirnosova Grim asks: “Any news about Artyom and

28:33

Tekhnik? There’s still no news. Artyom, who

28:35

worked, among other things, on Navalny LIVE, our

28:37

—I told you that he was basically

28:40

kidnapped and taken away.

28:41

We’ve been dealing with this automatically since the beginning—actually,

28:44

he has all the documents.

28:46

He is exempt from military conscription.

28:48

They wanted him off this program so badly

28:51

that they simply abducted him and

28:53

took him away. He is now in Vladimir

28:55

at some kind of military training camp.

28:57

And we are currently in the middle of court proceedings; in

28:59

court, we are establishing these medical

29:00

documents. But right now the Defense Ministry, together

29:04

with Shoigu, really is using the army

29:06

as a kind of camp where

29:09

it is actually even harder to sue or

29:11

to try to obtain any

29:13

documents or meet with this

29:16

person than when he is sitting

29:18

in prison. They simply hide people away; as with Shavenkov,

29:20

they took him to Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), and now

29:23

they are trying to do the same thing with

29:24

Artyom. But of course we will fight for

29:27

him. But the situation, the situation is not, not

29:31

very good. Egor Makhin asks me:

29:34

is it worth running in the elections

29:35

for the City Duma? Egor, that depends on who you

29:43

are running against, whether you can win, whether you will

29:45

actually fight. But overall, the answer is yes, of course it is worth it.

29:48

The more people take part in elections, the

29:51

greater the political diversity, the

29:53

more people you draw into all of this, into

29:56

this whole movement. But you just should not

29:58

run in a way where, you know,

30:00

you just go for it casually, or simply

30:02

write, “Of course, Alexei, you know, I

30:05

watch your show, and now I’m

30:06

running for the City Duma, so support me

30:08

through Smart Voting.” That is not how

30:10

Smart Voting works. First and foremost, we need it

30:13

in order to defeat

30:15

United Russia, and we will support

30:18

candidates—we will try to support

30:20

candidates who have a chance of winning,

30:22

even if, ideologically, those candidates

30:25

are not especially close to me personally. And unfortunately,

30:28

idiots do not watch my

30:30

Thursday livestream, but they still have a better

30:33

chance of breaking through if they put up a fight against

30:35

United Russia. So if you, Egor, have

30:37

some kind of team, if you understand what

30:39

to do, and if you go into your district

30:41

and wipe the United Russia candidate off the map,

30:44

or make a real attempt, then of course

30:46

you should run—for the City Duma and for the Legislative Assembly.

30:50

You absolutely should. You just need

30:52

to be determined. It is a good,

30:55

interesting experience, a great thing. Quite possibly

30:57

you may even get elected, and if they

30:59

do elect you, then at the very least it will be

31:01

interesting to look back on.

31:05

Are U L asks me: “Alexei, will there be

31:08

a campaign against deputies with dual

31:10

citizenship and residence permits?”

31:12

Well, what do you think yourselves? Has it all already been forgotten?

31:15

Swept under the rug? Of course there will be no such campaign.

31:17

What, are they going to fight themselves?

31:19

Just look at the huge number of

31:22

reports about how business-jet owners

31:25

from Russia keep flying abroad all the time, while

31:28

regular flights are supposedly banned, and

31:30

that raises the question: how is it that various

31:32

people close to United Russia

31:34

—United Russia members—are getting abroad

31:36

at all? Because right now I would not be let into a single

31:38

European country, because

31:40

they would take my passport, say, “Alexei, goodbye,”

31:41

“it says Russian

31:43

Federation there. We do not let people like that in. You are all

31:46

contagious over there.”

31:47

But if someone shows up and, as it were,

31:49

they say, “Well, he tucked away his United Russia

31:52

party card and found his

31:53

residence permit or passport,” then he gets let into

31:55

lovely Spain and Italy and so on.

31:58

Take Vladimir Solovyov, for example: together with his

31:59

family, he can easily go to

32:02

Italy because he has a residence

32:03

permit. So of course there will be absolutely no

32:06

campaign about that.

32:10

Someone asks about Plan B, and whether there will be

32:12

week-long voting. We will talk about all

32:14

of that now, but before that I wanted to

32:17

entertain you. My

32:20

dear friend Margarita Simonyan

32:23

—a wonderful woman—has, as you

32:25

know, sued me, Sobol, and the

32:29

entire Anti-Corruption Foundation,

32:31

or so we have heard. Because, well, they

32:33

filed the lawsuit, and the court kicked it back, saying

32:36

it was written incompetently. And then, later,

32:39

they apparently said it had been accepted, but we have nothing,

32:41

we do not know anything, we are just

32:43

left confused and worried about what exactly

32:45

little Margarita has sued over, what she

32:48

wants to prove.

32:49

It is a lawsuit over honor, dignity, and business

32:51

reputation. She is demanding 500,000

32:52

rubles from me and from Sobol each—so what exactly

32:55

did I say or write that means

32:58

I am supposed to pay Margarita

33:01

half a million rubles?

33:02

And

33:02

[music]

33:03

how exactly is she going to prove

33:05

that what I said was false? Please show me

33:06

screenshot number one. Let us take a look at it.

33:09

Look at it—not that one, not this one, no, give me the right one—but

33:12

show me my post, what I said. What do

33:18

you think in this image

33:22

outraged Margarita Simonyan so much that she

33:24

filed a lawsuit?

33:25

Find the phrase here that insulted her

33:28

so badly that she

33:30

is suing and demanding 500,000 rubles. Not

33:33

“propagandist Margarita Simonyan,” not

33:35

“stop misleading people,” and not

33:37

“colossal budget.” The phrase was:

33:39

“We all know that RT is pathetic.” This is

33:43

not a joke—they are completely serious.

33:45

Now show the excerpt they attached;

33:48

it literally says in the lawsuit that “we all

33:50

know that RT is pathetic”—“pathetic.”

33:54

According to the explanatory dictionary, "wretchedness" is a miserable outward

33:56

appearance or inner content

33:57

of something, and that, of course, does not

34:00

correspond to reality. Our

34:02

channel Russia Today (RT)

34:03

and, personally, Margarita Simonyan

34:05

are in no way whatsoever

34:07

an act of courage. Next, the following phrase, which

34:10

Margarita Simonyan really did not like,

34:13

was this:

34:15

"Simonyan deceives everyone, including her

34:18

boss." Please show a clip

34:20

from this lawsuit.

34:20

There, you see: "Today I’ll tell you how

34:23

Margarita Simonyan deceives everyone,

34:25

including her boss, President

34:27

Vladimir Putin..." And then—well, never mind.

34:30

You know, I’ve called Margarita

34:32

Simonyan many different things, and even now I

34:34

certainly consider her wretched, a thief,

34:37

absolutely pointless, talentless,

34:40

a woman who sits there parasitizing

34:42

the state budget, who on her monstrous,

34:44

disgusting program, a kind of "Laugh Panorama" (a reference to a tacky Russian TV comedy format),

34:45

together with her husband earns 6

34:48

million rubles a week (about 60,000 USD at a rough historical rate), and who

34:49

steals from the Interior Ministry budget through a fictitious

34:53

PR contract. But with Simonyan, the issue is different.

34:56

The phrase where I say that she deceives

34:59

her boss—that is what is very important to her.

35:01

She wants to litigate precisely over that, to say: dear

35:03

dear boss, look, they’re saying that I

35:05

deceived you, but I am not deceiving you.

35:07

So much so that I am even ready

35:10

to go to court over it.

35:12

Because of this, tomorrow I am publishing

35:15

this lawsuit. It is actually very funny, and

35:17

there’s a lot in it.

35:19

What interests me is simply the mechanism of their

35:23

rebuttal. Yes, so: Margarita Simonyan

35:25

says, offended and insulted, that I and

35:29

the RT channel are "wretched." Apparently she’ll bring me

35:31

some certificate from HR saying that I’m not

35:33

that she is not wretched, and we will have to

35:35

refute it and say, well, sorry, but yes,

35:37

she is wretched. And the judge will sit there deciding:

35:40

so, interesting, is this wretchedness or not

35:43

wretchedness? But separately, it’s very amusing

35:45

that the lawsuit was filed not on behalf of Simonyan,

35:47

but on behalf of TV-Novosti, the legal entity

35:51

that owns everything. At the same time,

35:55

in my latest video, which

35:58

Lyubov Sobol released, TV-Novosti is not

36:00

mentioned there at all. It’s just that Margarita Simonyan

36:02

apparently doesn’t want to sue personally, and

36:05

so a third legal entity files

36:08

in her defense and tries to prove that none of this is

36:10

wretchedness, that she did not deceive her

36:13

boss, and so on. Let’s watch 40

36:15

seconds of that very video by Lyubov Sobol

36:18

for which, as we know, our courts will of course

36:21

sooner or later squeeze out of Sobol

36:23

500,000 rubles (about 5,000 USD at a rough historical rate). We studied

36:26

RT’s YouTube channels in different regions and

36:28

found out what they really are. It is

36:31

monstrous artificial boosting, including through

36:34

porn sites and Indian bots in

36:36

the comments. These are fantastical budgets

36:39

that are going into someone’s pocket, and now I will

36:41

show you this clearly. There are many

36:43

signs by which you can identify

36:45

artificial boosting: comparing social

36:48

engagement on videos, view

36:49

views,

36:50

audience geography. For example, any

36:53

schoolkid will tell you that if you have in front of you a

36:55

video with more than 1 million

36:57

views,

36:58

like this RT video in Spanish, but

37:01

it has only 93 comments, then the matter

37:04

is most likely not clean.

37:07

So there you have it. You can watch this video

37:09

and enjoy it on the channel

37:11

Navalny Live. In the future, of course, you will

37:13

also enjoy the absolutely wonderful

37:16

trial where we will discuss the courage of

37:19

Margarita Simonyan and whether or not she is wretched. I

37:20

already had a trial where one of the United Russia party members

37:24

—some of you may remember—was trying to prove that he

37:26

was not a drug addict. I simply wrote a tweet:

37:28

"United Russia member Lisovenko is a drug addict," and retweeted

37:31

his absurd statement. And then he

37:34

brought

37:34

a certificate to court saying that he was not

37:36

a drug addict, that Navalny had slandered him. So now

37:38

Margarita Simonyan, with a certificate stating that she

37:40

is not wretched,

37:41

is something we will be watching in one of

37:43

the courts. So, Timur asks about

37:48

Shnurov and his new post—what do you say?

37:50

Did he sell out because of debts, or what?

37:52

He seemed like a decent guy. Well, I saw

37:54

that Shnurov had reportedly become the head of the TV channel

37:59

RTVI.

38:00

And it seemed like a joke to me, but

38:02

the RTVI channel is located right across

38:04

the road from our office, and I could literally see that

38:07

Shnurov was filming there, by that wall

38:09

that I walk past every day, and

38:11

he was going into the RTVI office, so

38:13

well then, he sold out. To whom and why is not entirely clear to me.

38:16

Honestly, why he would want to be the general

38:18

producer of this channel—I don’t know. Lately he’s been doing

38:21

public and political things. Recently he

38:22

got involved with that party, the Party of Growth

38:25

(forgive me, Lord), the one associated with Titov—and that really is

38:28

some kind of utter wretchedness. They were saying something

38:32

about doing something so that in St. Petersburg

38:33

they could drag them into the Legislative

38:35

Assembly or into the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament).

38:36

Sergey Shnurov has been doing strange things.

38:39

Well, maybe it’s some kind of midlife

38:41

crisis. Maybe he got tired of singing and wants

38:43

to settle down somehow—we don’t know. Let’s

38:45

wait and see. They say he used to be a normal

38:48

guy—well, he still is a normal guy,

38:50

though unfortunately sometimes he gets involved in

38:52

some kind of paid hype. But overall, it’s normal enough.

38:54

Let's not judge Sergei before we judge Sergei.

38:56

Shnurov by his actions—what if he suddenly takes the RTVI TV channel

38:59

to unprecedented heights, and right there

39:01

everything will be great. So, voting is not...

39:05

A smart question about Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug (a region in western Siberia): how did you calculate

39:08

it? Alexei asks me. Viktor Medved:

39:10

how did you know it would be 72 percent? It wasn't hard to

39:13

figure out. Well, let's actually

39:16

discuss, in fact, the main

39:19

news story, which many people see as

39:21

historic—or fateful. I don't see it as fateful at all,

39:23

not in the least, but nevertheless

39:25

it really is very important.

39:27

What happened was this very reset

39:29

of Putin's terms, and today he already came out with

39:33

a kind of congratulatory address to all Russians. There

39:36

was a very funny headline this morning,

39:40

rather ominous, saying that Putin had promised

39:43

to thank Russia for its support, and

39:45

of course on Twitter a lot of people

39:46

were joking

39:47

that it was like, run for your lives, whoever can,

39:50

they're going to bomb us after all.

39:51

Well, Putin released this address, and he

39:55

said there separately, basically, that

39:57

he understands those who voted

39:59

against. Let's take 41 seconds

40:02

of Putin's gratitude to Russia: "I want

40:06

to address words of thanks

40:10

to the citizens of Russia. I want to say thank you

40:15

very much for your support and trust.

40:19

I have repeatedly spoken about the need

40:21

to adopt amendments to the country's fundamental law,

40:24

to the Constitution. Here we have both

40:28

the improvement of the political system, and

40:32

the enshrinement of social guarantees, and

40:36

the strengthening of sovereignty, and

40:37

territorial integrity, and finally

40:41

our spiritual, historical, and moral

40:44

values that bind generations together.

40:48

There were many, many different values in it.

40:50

In the end, I just won't torture you with this

40:52

long recording. He says that he understands

40:54

those who voted against, and says nothing

40:57

about resetting his own term limits.

40:58

And this kind of address itself is

41:01

very telling. Of course, Putin understands

41:03

what happened. And as for how I

41:06

predicted it would be 72 percent—first of all, I

41:07

didn't guess right, because I just did

41:11

a very, very simple exercise. All

41:15

the newspapers wrote several months ago

41:18

that the Presidential Administration's plan

41:21

was simple:

41:22

turnout above 50 percent—closer to 60—and

41:26

for more than 70 percent to vote yes.

41:29

So I made a very rough estimate.

41:30

I simply thought that in the presidential

41:33

election they had fabricated 76 percent for him,

41:36

and now, after the increase in

41:40

the retirement age, after the coronavirus,

41:43

after the absence of any real assistance—they surely wouldn't dare.

41:45

And here I was exactly the naive

41:47

Chukchi youth (a Russian expression meaning a naive person): I thought they

41:49

would be embarrassed to fabricate that much.

41:51

So I thought it would be something in between

41:54

the basic target they had been given and the 76

41:57

percent from back then—that was the peak.

42:00

And so, yes, I said 72.

42:01

If I was wrong, probably 71 rather than that. But I

42:05

of course underestimated Ella Aleksandrovna

42:07

Pamfilova and all these wonderful

42:09

people in general. They have now fabricated, what,

42:12

almost 78 percent? That is,

42:14

of course, an absolute maximum—

42:17

Putin's highest result of all time. And in that

42:21

sense, its lack of authenticity

42:24

follows directly from that alone.

42:27

It's just that obvious.

42:29

So it seems to me that this

42:31

triumphal victory for Putin, in the

42:33

medium term, will not bring

42:36

him anything good. But first of all,

42:38

I'd still like to say a few words about the context

42:40

surrounding this

42:42

vote, because we can see that in

42:46

Russia people have basically, en masse,

42:48

stopped caring—there's no other word for it—about

42:51

the coronavirus. Literally no one

42:52

is paying attention. Meanwhile, for example, in

42:54

Kazakhstan today they reintroduced

42:56

quarantine. In European countries things are

42:58

also very difficult. In America the numbers are huge.

43:01

And in Russia, in fact, on the

43:04

day of the vote, as Leonid Volkov quite rightly

43:06

pointed out—one of the people

43:09

who follows all of this closely

43:11

and keeps track of all the numbers—on that

43:14

day, during the voting, Russia excluding

43:17

Moscow showed the highest number

43:20

of deaths. In other words, according to

43:22

the official data, on the day

43:25

of the "reset," more people in Russia died from the coronavirus

43:28

than on any other

43:30

day. And at the same time, of course, by now nobody

43:34

gives a damn about this whole coronavirus anymore. But still,

43:37

let's look at the official

43:38

statistics. Putin was talking about how

43:41

he had brilliantly defeated everyone, and

43:43

now if we look even at the official

43:46

statistics, which are understated several

43:49

times over—let's compare Russia with

43:51

Europe. Volkov also wrote today—and I

43:53

thought it was exactly the right tweet to

43:55

show you—that we have a population of 146

43:57

million people and currently 216 deaths per day,

44:01

while Europe has a population of 450 million

44:05

and they, supposedly, according to Putin,

44:07

followed our wonderful example,

44:09

and they have 93 deaths per

44:12

day. And this is the kind of thing that we

44:14

still need to remember, because in all

44:17

the regional hospitals and medical centers

44:19

things are a total mess right now.

44:23

Since I said that everyone had stopped caring—well,

44:25

people are now treating the coronavirus as if

44:27

it's just here, that's it, it's with us,

44:29

it's here, and we don't even want to discuss it anymore, we don't...

44:31

What’s interesting is that in hospitals, but in fact

44:33

this is how it is: any person who is even

44:36

somewhat influential in any city

44:38

is now getting three or four calls a day

44:41

saying, “Listen, please arrange

44:43

to get my grandmother, or mother, or some female relative into

44:45

a hospital, because they’re not admitting anyone anymore — all

44:47

the hospitals

44:48

are simply packed with people; there are huge numbers of dying patients,

44:52

an enormous number, but somehow, well...

44:53

And meanwhile we’re holding a vote, and essentially

44:57

this so-called vote was organized

45:01

basically for the sake of a nice tweet.

45:04

Today I saw one published

45:07

by a certain Telegram channel and Twitter account.

45:10

There’s the Kremlin pool — a group of

45:12

journalists who serve Putin — and

45:14

very characteristically, it said there outright:

45:16

it was completely obvious what this was

45:18

being done for: “Putin’s victories, here you go.”

45:21

This is what Putin’s victories look like

45:24

in their view:

45:25

the 2000 election — 52 percent, then

45:28

2004 — 71.12 percent,

45:31

then after the protests it dipped a little, and then

45:33

all the way up to 76,

45:34

and now almost 78. So there you have it —

45:38

that’s really what all of this

45:42

was started for.

45:43

And the main thing I want to say to everyone

45:46

— to address everyone, to hug everyone and

45:49

kiss everyone — whether you rejected it and didn’t go,

45:52

or whether you went out and voted, you could have

45:55

gone and voted “no,” because

45:57

that was your act of civic responsibility, your civic act.

45:59

I mean, simply wanting to photograph

46:00

it all, post it on Twitter, and say:

46:03

“To hell with Putin,” or

46:05

maybe you believed the story that

46:06

it was possible

46:07

to outvote them — none of that matters now.

46:09

Right now, everyone did well; everyone did something

46:14

against this whole regime, against this whole

46:16

setup. But it was designed in such a way that

46:21

you could vote, and that was

46:23

an act of your courage,

46:25

but when it came to the actual count, it

46:28

could not function.

46:29

And let’s just look back once again at what happened

46:34

five months ago. Five months ago

46:36

they said — what was Putin’s defeat in?

46:40

It lies in the fact that five months ago

46:42

they were sitting there, just like this, and we were discussing

46:44

whether Putin needed his term count reset, whether he needed

46:47

new terms because, well,

46:49

for one reason or another,

46:50

people were behaving improperly, and Vladimir

46:52

Vladimirovich (a colloquial way of referring to Vladimir Putin) wanted to write this into

46:54

the Constitution. And there was a very simple,

46:56

obvious option: let’s hold

46:58

a referendum, and Vladimir Vladimirovich would get

47:00

everything he needs. After all, we know how to run referendums,

47:02

we know how to run elections:

47:03

Chechnya — 90 percent, Tatarstan — 95

47:06

percent, and Kemerovo Region — 95

47:08

percent — we’d win any referendum by those kinds of magical numbers.

47:10

But no — he lost,

47:15

because he refused to hold

47:18

a referendum, and instead chose something resembling an election in

47:20

Russia, where every election is rigged. But

47:23

we know, we saw how the recent

47:25

2018 presidential election was falsified —

47:27

it was falsified completely.

47:29

But that level of fraud was not enough.

47:32

They understood that if they simply came out

47:36

with observers and at least some kind of

47:38

procedure, even a bad one, they’d be finished —

47:41

just finished. People would mobilize,

47:43

they’d get crushed in all the major cities,

47:45

and quite possibly in smaller cities that

47:48

had suffered from the coronavirus, they

47:49

would lose.

47:50

And so they came up with a separate scheme.

47:53

This is very important to understand,

47:55

because we can’t discuss something

47:59

in completely abstract terms when we’re discussing

48:01

something that looks like an election, with ballots,

48:03

and then call it an election and compare it to

48:05

previous elections. That’s the wrong

48:07

way to think about it.

48:09

There were, and there will be in September, some kind of

48:12

elections — very problematic, but with observers

48:14

and with rules. They decided instead that they would hold

48:18

this

48:19

without observers and without anything at all. At that moment

48:22

they lost. At that moment

48:25

we can say: that’s it, guys,

48:27

the truth is on our side, because it’s obvious

48:30

that you’ll just fabricate the result. You created a special

48:32

mechanism in which votes are not counted and

48:36

mean nothing. Today the Golos movement (Russia’s independent election-monitoring organization)

48:39

issued a statement. I had sort of promised myself

48:43

that during this broadcast I wouldn’t

48:47

say even once, “I told you so,” but

48:52

I’ll rephrase it. So, in that sense,

48:53

the Golos movement, in its

48:57

statement, essentially repeated everything

48:59

I’ve been discussing here with you:

49:01

that this was not even a vote, but

49:03

from the outset simply a PR campaign, and

49:06

the voting itself, directly,

49:09

as the observers tell us — and they are the largest

49:11

monitoring organization — had no

49:14

significance.

49:14

That’s exactly right. And so again the phrase comes to mind

49:18

“as I said before,” or “as I

49:20

mentioned here on the program”: you could go

49:23

and vote — the main thing is not to be upset afterward

49:25

that your vote was not counted. You

49:28

voted, or you didn’t vote,

49:30

but you know that this is a fake.

49:33

By design, in this whole apparatus,

49:36

there was never any function meant to show you

49:40

your vote. That function simply did not exist at all.

49:43

What we have now is unquestionably the

49:48

largest,

49:49

the most massive falsification in the history

49:53

of Russia — not just in recent history, but in Russia’s history altogether.

49:54

in the history of the new Russia—and of Russia in general—already

49:59

there is a huge amount of this kind of evidence

50:01

you can read Shpilkin’s post on

50:04

a well-known mathematician, one of the leading

50:06

experts in electoral mathematics

50:08

there are lots of figures and graphs there; if

50:11

you understand that sort of thing, you’ll get great

50:13

pleasure from it. You can also read the excellent

50:15

post by Leonid Volkov, which he wrote today

50:17

—it’s simple math there, for

50:19

people who aren’t able to make sense of

50:21

some super-complicated graphs. But the difference between them

50:24

in Volkov’s and Shpilkin’s calculations—Shpilkin’s

50:26

he says that Putin and

50:28

Pamfilova stuffed in 22 million votes

50:32

Volkov thinks it was probably closer to 27

50:34

million votes. In other words, it was simply

50:37

an enormous, colossal ballot-stuffing operation, and of course

50:41

but as for Pamfilova

50:43

Ella Aleksandrovna, at one point, was very

50:47

offended by me over this

50:49

photograph and was indignant, saying,

50:54

“Come on, Navalny, this is not some fascist

50:55

uniform at all.” By the way, that uniform in

50:57

the photo belonged to Churov, the previous head

51:00

of the Central Election Commission, and I just saw somewhere on

51:02

the internet that someone had cut out

51:03

Churov’s head and replaced it with Ella

51:05

Pamfilova’s, and I posted that picture on Twitter

51:07

when

51:09

Pamfilova first started doing

51:11

some kind of nonsense. She got offended and said, “Why

51:15

did Navalny post me in this fascist

51:17

uniform?” And in general, basically

51:19

we all thought—I’m ashamed to say

51:22

in comparison with Churov—that actually, we

51:24

all thought it couldn’t get any worse than Churov

51:26

but he really was

51:30

this old, brazen thug, while here we had

51:34

this sensitive, anxious

51:37

woman who had always moved along

51:39

the trade-union line, and she always

51:41

likes to tell stories about how she went to Chechnya, how

51:43

she was friends there with Yavlinsky (a liberal Russian politician), how she was

51:46

a great friend of—well, probably not anymore—

51:48

Novaya Gazeta (an independent Russian newspaper), and so on and so forth

51:50

She likes giving interviews and

51:53

telling people in them how she

51:55

is not at all ashamed of what she

51:58

has done over the last four years. Let’s

52:00

listen to a little clip here—I’ll stay in the corner

52:02

so I don’t get banned too. Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel): “Over

52:06

these four years, I haven’t done anything

52:08

that I should be ashamed of

52:12

no matter what anyone says.”

52:16

You see, for her this is very important. Churov

52:19

never reasoned in terms like shame or no shame

52:22

at all. He would put on his glasses,

52:27

scratch his beard, and say,

52:29

“In accordance with clause such-and-such, therefore

52:32

United Russia gets all the votes. Right,

52:34

comrades, please state your views. We vote.

52:36

Heard, resolved, goodbye.” That’s how

52:39

it all was. But she plays the part of

52:42

the tormented intelligentsia, saying, “People

52:46

are slandering me, but I’m not ashamed.” But

52:48

paradoxically, it is precisely this very

52:51

Ella Pamfilova, great friend of all

52:54

human rights activists, former commissioner for

52:56

human rights—well, whatever the exact title was

52:58

human rights ombudsman, head of the Council

52:59

for Human Rights—but never mind, those are

53:01

fake institutions. Still, she always followed

53:03

that line, and in Putin’s

53:06

nomenklatura she fell into the category of

53:09

the compassionate auntie with big eyes

53:12

filled with tears and slightly

53:15

trembling lips, someone who

53:17

really seemed not just like another bureaucratic

53:20

face, but a human being. But she turned out to be the worst of all

53:24

a hundred times worse than Churov. It was Ella

53:28

Pamfilova

53:29

who stuffed in those either 22 or 27

53:33

million votes and totally

53:36

falsified the whole thing, simply carrying out

53:38

the biggest scam imaginable. Obviously it was done with

53:41

the Presidential Administration, obviously with

53:43

Putin’s administration. But I believe—and

53:46

Yashin said today, go to his channel

53:48

and watch his video, he released

53:50

an excellent video—that Pamfilova must go

53:52

I believe she should end up in the dock

53:54

She needs to be put on trial, and she

53:56

should become a symbol, some kind of—if you like—

53:58

point of national consensus

54:01

All of us, regardless of our

54:04

views, should agree that

54:05

Pamfilova must go

54:07

she should be under investigation, she

54:09

should be in prison, because this is

54:12

monstrous theft on a monstrous

54:14

scale. I don’t know whether we will see

54:17

anything even worse than this, but

54:21

judging by the way she has gone about it, maybe

54:25

we will. By the way, it’s interesting

54:26

that in that same interview with Pozner (a well-known Russian TV host), held

54:29

on the eve of the vote

54:30

she quite shamelessly, together with him,

54:33

discussed how these amendments had already been adopted, that is

54:35

which is also just an astonishing degree

54:37

of cynicism: they call everyone out to vote and at the same time say

54:39

“doo-doo-doo, the amendments are of course already adopted,” and

54:41

Pozner nods along: “Yes, yes, they’re adopted,”

54:43

the amendments. Let’s listen. “What this man has done

54:46

proposed—this was all so

54:50

primitive and obvious that not to know him, not to

54:52

understand him—and he didn’t need to do anything

54:56

more, really. Yes, even if, even if

54:58

these amendments, calmly, they are already

55:00

adopted

55:04

you understand? And, well, as far as I know

55:07

yes, of course, as far as is known—well, it’s already

55:09

adopted. All of this still has to

55:11

happen formally, but we’ll draw the numbers anyway. There are already

55:14

simply a huge number of

55:15

mathematical calculations, videos,

55:18

all sorts of things

55:19

a sea of material over the next two or three

55:21

In the coming weeks, there will simply be ten times more of it.

55:24

materials that unquestionably show

55:27

that this was simply one massive falsification.

55:30

Where, essentially, there is no—no

55:33

more or less coherent fragment. Actually, I

55:37

wanted to show you just one—well, even a single

55:39

video, a photograph, an absolutely remarkable one.

55:41

St. Petersburg. And in St. Petersburg, well,

55:44

take a look at this too. Most of us

55:47

—even observers—still haven’t understood

55:49

the scale of the so-called early

55:52

voting in St. Petersburg. So, how

55:55

many people do you think came

55:57

to vote on the actual voting day? In

56:00

fact, less than one-tenth of

56:04

the total number. In St. Petersburg,

56:06

60 percent turnout had already been recorded in advance. You

56:09

can check for yourself: in a giant

56:11

city of over a million people, 60 percent of people

56:14

came and voted early there. Sixty

56:19

percent—that was more than half the city.

56:21

It’s impossible to imagine, but that’s what it was, and

56:23

the signs of large-scale falsification were as follows:

56:25

First, show the precinct protocol here.

56:29

Show the protocol—yes, can we get a closer look?

56:32

Here, if you look closely, you can see

56:34

“for.”

56:36

Now, the number of ballots issued—

56:38

the number of ballots, right here, yes—how many?

56:40

It says 435. Line number five: 435.

56:45

Then the following happens. But this

56:48

protocol, which was signed by all the members

56:51

of the commission—in this case, there was at least some

56:53

decent commission member there—

56:54

they submit it to the so-called GAS

56:57

Vybory system (the State Automated Election System), and the protocol that the commission

56:59

has in hand must fully

57:01

match the electronic

57:03

protocol that is entered into the system.

57:06

And then the system passes the data along, so in

57:08

the end the votes are counted, counted, and here

57:11

this is exactly where, of course, all the

57:12

cheating begins.

57:14

Protocols start disappearing, they

57:17

start getting rewritten or otherwise tampered with

57:19

or moved from one folder to another in

57:21

ordinary elections, yes. But here, as we already

57:26

discussed, the system was fundamentally

57:28

built differently. Now let’s look at how that same

57:31

protocol appears in the GAS

57:34

Vybory system. We look and find the same little thing

57:39

under “for.” You see the same 431, only damn it,

57:45

they put a 1 in front of the number and

57:48

it became 1,400—just a moment ago it was 430

57:52

one votes in favor. They just stupidly added

57:55

a 1. They didn’t throw out

57:57

anything, they didn’t stuff ballots, they didn’t

57:59

try to take the protocol away from that guy at the precinct,

58:02

tear it up and burn it, destroy some

58:05

evidence—nothing. They didn’t even try

58:08

to do that. They just damn well added a 1, and

58:10

as a result,

58:12

431 turned into 1,431.

58:15

That’s what they did. It’s obvious that all

58:18

these people who were supposed to do it, did it.

58:21

They should be in prison. Here is the direct

58:23

evidence: one protocol versus the

58:25

figure in GAS Vybory. So once again,

58:30

well done to everyone who did at least something.

58:34

Yes, well, now in hindsight, and to me

58:37

it’s clear that many things should have been done differently.

58:39

Probably our overall strategy should have been

58:42

different. It was definitely my mistake that I let myself

58:46

get drawn into this discussion—

58:48

this meaningless nonsense about

58:49

whether to vote or boycott. But we

58:52

announced this dual strategy: not

58:54

to recognize it, while saying that you could vote

58:55

against it, or you could simply not go. And if you

58:58

look through the feed from our штабs (campaign offices),

59:00

you’ll see that a whole bunch of

59:02

regional штаб (campaign office) heads went and

59:03

voted “no,” while others didn’t go.

59:06

That part doesn’t matter. But this—this

59:09

discussion was pointless. We got too

59:11

deeply drawn into it, and in the end it turned out

59:14

that we were campaigning to ourselves.

59:17

The key thing here was to focus on those

59:22

who vote in favor

59:24

and don’t even understand what these amendments are about.

59:26

Because what matters is

59:27

the major thing that happened on

59:29

—completely wrongly—today Sobol

59:31

drew attention to this. She wrote that

59:34

you remember how they were telling us

59:37

during the preparations, when they kept bringing up

59:40

puppies and kittens,

59:42

passports for officials, and what Beglov (Governor of St. Petersburg) was doing—

59:44

on voting day he was telling everyone about very

59:46

nice amendments on animal protection.

59:48

But once all this happened, what did they start saying?

59:51

They said this was a referendum on trust in

59:53

Putin. From the official website of this

59:56

vote, they even removed

59:59

the mention that the amendments included

1:00:01

the resetting of Putin’s term count. Now look:

1:00:04

Sobyanin, all of United Russia, all of them

1:00:08

are saying that this was, of course, it was

1:00:11

a referendum on trust in Putin. Of course, all

1:00:14

80 percent—78 percent—came and

1:00:17

supported him.

1:00:18

Trust in Putin—that’s exactly what this was needed for,

1:00:21

this very tweet, yes, and this whole

1:00:23

narrative. Show the tweet again.

1:00:26

The Kremlin press pool is simply trying

1:00:29

to intimidate us with their supposed numbers,

1:00:33

with their sheer size. The main idea there

1:00:35

is that everyone who is against it

1:00:38

keeps seeing this figure—seventy-

1:00:41

seven point nine, or 80—and thinks, well, there are

1:00:44

so many of them that even if they did throw something in there,

1:00:47

stuff something in,

1:00:47

they’re still so much [ __ ]

1:00:50

more numerous than we are. And this is exactly how

1:00:54

they keep psychologically pressuring us. Why did they

1:00:56

need turnout so badly? Why did they

1:00:58

want everyone to go vote so much? They didn’t care—

1:01:00

they were placing ads everywhere anyway.

1:01:03

Everyone, come out and vote however you like.

1:01:06

Because right from the start they put the number at 1.

1:01:08

Just cast it — they don’t care what your

1:01:10

vote is. But then, once you’ve gone in, they

1:01:14

demoralize and shock you so much that

1:01:17

you simply came, voted, and then

1:01:20

you saw — you saw the exit polls for

1:01:22

Moscow, and people started writing to us:

1:01:24

55 percent — now we’ll beat them there — and

1:01:28

then bam, they pull out a club that says

1:01:31

78 percent on it and hit you over the

1:01:33

head with it, and you get sad and say there’s

1:01:35

nothing to be done. My God, I’m alone, everyone around me is

1:01:38

an idiot, I need to leave, I need to get out of the

1:01:41

country — or just retreat into some kind of

1:01:43

internal exile, and so on. Well,

1:01:45

that is absolutely the wrong thing to do.

1:01:48

Nothing truly momentous happened.

1:01:52

Let’s be honest: in Russia, not yesterday, not

1:01:56

the day before, not two weeks ago — not a single

1:01:59

law has actually worked. We’ve known for

1:02:02

the last 15 years that Putin is president for life.

1:02:06

Those people who didn’t

1:02:08

deceive themselves have always said — perhaps bluntly, but

1:02:11

stating the obvious — of course Putin

1:02:13

usurped power in order to remain

1:02:15

president for life. We knew that. He

1:02:17

has now taken another step toward it, but no laws

1:02:20

were working anyway, no constitution was

1:02:22

being applied. They were breaking journalists’ arms, and

1:02:25

they continue to break journalists’ arms. This

1:02:27

particular step, from the point of view

1:02:31

of

1:02:33

its consequences for Putin, I’m sure, will

1:02:37

actually be more negative than positive. Because

1:02:40

first of all, all those state employees — they really were

1:02:42

herded into it. If in Moscow

1:02:45

1.5 million people

1:02:47

were forced to register, then all those

1:02:50

1.5 million people know perfectly well

1:02:53

that they were forced to register. And

1:02:58

a huge number of people didn’t even

1:03:00

understand what these amendments were about. By the way,

1:03:03

there’s a great video from our headquarters in Omsk.

1:03:05

They’re interviewing people at a polling

1:03:08

station and asking: do you even know

1:03:09

what

1:03:10

what’s in these amendments? Let’s watch

1:03:12

a short clip. “I’ll read the amendments

1:03:15

later.” “No, I’ve already made my choice, I voted, well...”

1:03:21

“I’ll read the amendments later.”

1:03:32

“No, I haven’t read that yet.” “Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.”

1:03:37

“Then try this one. Which number is it?” “You don’t know?”

1:03:42

That’s how it was. So once again I’m

1:03:46

trying to avoid saying, “I told you so,” but

1:03:48

according to our polling, a huge number of people —

1:03:51

we saw it ourselves — some 30 to 40

1:03:54

percent of people had no idea that

1:03:56

this was about resetting the term count.

1:03:57

We know because here we

1:03:58

discuss it endlessly among ourselves. Those who

1:04:00

read newspapers, those who are interested

1:04:02

in politics, knew about it. Everyone else

1:04:04

was told it was about all sorts of things — about dogs, about

1:04:07

raising your spiritual values, about

1:04:09

how we won’t give away

1:04:10

our territories, because without these constitutional amendments

1:04:13

the Japanese will take the Kuril Islands and the Americans

1:04:15

will take Crimea from us, or something

1:04:18

like that will happen. Great — so people went and voted for

1:04:20

pension indexation. We shouldn’t underestimate

1:04:22

how little people understood. But now

1:04:26

a huge number of them, first of all,

1:04:28

have simply seen with their own eyes what an

1:04:31

monstrous fraud it was.

1:04:33

And again, we shouldn’t forget:

1:04:36

there are 90,000 election commissions in the country.

1:04:40

Ninety thousand election commissions — and all those

1:04:43

election commissions now know that

1:04:45

it was all a complete sham.

1:04:46

A total, absolute deception. Everyone knows

1:04:49

that none of this was real. And now, when

1:04:50

United Russia and Putin start telling us

1:04:52

that this was supposedly

1:04:53

a referendum of confidence, a huge

1:04:55

number of people — including that

1:04:57

gentleman there — will understand what these

1:05:00

amendments were really about. And again, the whole country

1:05:04

saw these absolutely wonderful, wonderful

1:05:06

polling stations. I won’t deny myself the

1:05:09

pleasure — in the last program

1:05:10

I did a top 7 of the best polling stations —

1:05:13

but I won’t deny myself the pleasure

1:05:15

of showing you my favorite one again:

1:05:17

the polling station that was located

1:05:19

in a supermarket cart. Please show it to us.

1:05:22

These are great videos — yes, that one.

1:05:26

There was a video there — no video? Then

1:05:28

we have a photo of the supermarket cart.

1:05:30

There were tree stumps used for voting, voting on a bench

1:05:34

by an apartment entrance, and there’s also this very heartfelt video

1:05:36

where women are singing on a bench near

1:05:38

the entrance. Let’s take a look.

1:05:42

[music]

1:06:11

These sweet, nice women who

1:06:15

gathered there on a lovely day and sang

1:06:17

a song — but they also saw that the voting

1:06:19

was taking place on a bench, and they saw that

1:06:22

voting was happening out of car trunks, and

1:06:24

millions, tens of millions of people

1:06:26

watched

1:06:27

a scene that was unusual for them. We had

1:06:29

never seen voting like this before —

1:06:31

these obviously strange, unprecedented forms of it —

1:06:33

but they saw them, and now they’re being

1:06:36

shown our Ella Alexandrovna (Ella Pamfilova, head of Russia’s Central Election Commission),

1:06:38

who says that all of this is a lie,

1:06:40

that there were no tree stumps, no car trunks, and

1:06:43

that the entire vote was conducted perfectly.

1:06:46

She is insisting on this quite

1:06:47

persistently. Let’s listen — two

1:06:49

minutes and ten seconds. I don’t mind

1:06:51

giving that airtime to Ella Alexandrovna

1:06:53

as she now tries to prove to all

1:06:56

those people who saw with their own eyes

1:06:59

the tree stumps,

1:07:00

the benches, and everything else, that none of it

1:07:02

ever happened. Unfortunately, believe it or not...

1:07:05

No, but those who don’t believe it should try for themselves.

1:07:08

Try looking for actual facts and evidence, because apart from

1:07:10

reposts, mockery, and other, excuse me,

1:07:13

“someone said so” gossip and one blogger’s

1:07:15

made-up story that ten others reprinted—go look for

1:07:18

something concrete. Have you even tried? So far, mostly

1:07:20

we haven’t seen any of it. Mostly it’s either pulled

1:07:23

out of thin air or, let’s say, half-truths. And as for

1:07:26

violence, it’s outright lies. But unfortunately,

1:07:28

unfortunately—or fortunately, if you look at it another way—

1:07:30

that means we are working better than

1:07:34

those who are trying

1:07:35

to discredit voting in Russia would like.

1:07:37

Come on, you know,

1:07:39

the mission of my Central

1:07:40

Election Commission and my colleagues in

1:07:42

the regions may be subjected there

1:07:44

to unfair attacks, unfair

1:07:46

accusations. I have said more than once that

1:07:48

sometimes even a half-truth is worse than a lie.

1:07:50

A half-truth, when thrown out by someone who knows

1:07:53

exactly what they are doing, is something we are used to.

1:07:54

But when people start mocking

1:07:56

ordinary people—I watched all of it,

1:07:59

this whole performance about

1:08:01

voting in courtyards and near people’s homes.

1:08:03

And you know, I simply felt ashamed.

1:08:05

Ashamed not for our people—those women running around,

1:08:08

our people, most of them far from young,

1:08:10

with worn hands and aching legs.

1:08:13

They carry all those heavy boxes,

1:08:15

they go around villages to reach elderly men,

1:08:18

old women left on their own, those living nearby,

1:08:20

following their requests. And then some young

1:08:22

healthy punk, excuse me, well-fed

1:08:24

and doing just fine,

1:08:25

educated in this very system

1:08:28

that he claims to hate, you know, like

1:08:29

Malchish-Kibalchish (a Soviet literary boy hero) in his own mind—there he is,

1:08:32

crawling on all fours or crouching down behind

1:08:34

a bush, taking pictures: “What the hell is this, a stump?”

1:08:37

They sat down there.

1:08:37

Excuse me, but if you are

1:08:40

young and healthy, how can you not be ashamed?

1:08:42

If you’re an observer and you are genuinely

1:08:44

interested in what is happening, then

1:08:46

help those women instead of just

1:08:48

watching them struggle under that weight. And all of this, apparently,

1:08:51

becomes the basis for songs and, excuse me, dances.

1:08:56

I believe this is mockery,

1:08:58

plain and simple—mockery of people.

1:09:00

The people understand everything. It all turns these so-called

1:09:05

so-called

1:09:10

political… 91,000 people are watching this live,

1:09:16

watching live, and I hope that at least

1:09:18

45,000 people are crying right now

1:09:21

simply because

1:09:22

these are just actors who don’t have

1:09:26

an Oscar. Ella Pamfilova is really, truly—she

1:09:30

is upset, she is emotional, she is ashamed for those

1:09:32

people who mocked voting on

1:09:34

stumps.

1:09:35

After all, none of that happened, and yet

1:09:37

these big healthy guys keep going on and on about it.

1:09:39

And fine—let her speak,

1:09:42

because, as she rightly said,

1:09:44

the people understand everything, the people know

1:09:48

perfectly well how all of this was arranged.

1:09:50

Listen, Moscow’s population

1:09:55

suddenly increased by 7 percent in a single day. What

1:09:59

happened? Today, Open Media

1:10:01

published an article about it. How is that possible?

1:10:03

This is a gigantic city, the largest in

1:10:06

Europe.

1:10:06

For its population to increase by 7

1:10:08

percent, there would have to be

1:10:10

nothing less than

1:10:11

a mass migration of peoples. What was it—

1:10:14

did the Mongol-Tatars or the Huns arrive in Moscow?

1:10:16

No, it was Ella Pamfilova or Vladimir

1:10:19

Putin dumping in votes. They literally

1:10:21

just fabricated them out of nowhere compared

1:10:24

with the previous elections, which

1:10:26

were held quite recently. How could the

1:10:28

population have increased by 7 percent? That’s how—

1:10:30

they simply stuffed in those

1:10:32

votes, that’s all. And the same thing happened in Moscow:

1:10:35

45 percent early turnout, 45 percent.

1:10:39

Can you believe that half of Moscow

1:10:41

went and voted early, while on

1:10:44

the actual voting day there were almost no voters at all?

1:10:46

It comes out to only about 10

1:10:48

percent. The polling stations stood empty, but before that

1:10:51

everyone had supposedly already voted, and they expect

1:10:54

us to believe it. But everyone knows

1:10:57

how they got that early turnout.

1:11:00

Everyone saw it—relatives did too. And the people

1:11:03

see it and understand everything. And when the people

1:11:05

see this kind of abuse, which

1:11:08

virtually every

1:11:09

elderly person in the country was subjected to, when

1:11:12

first and foremost employees

1:11:14

from election commissions went through the lists

1:11:17

from social welfare offices and visited old people who

1:11:19

could barely understand anything—there is a rather disturbing

1:11:22

video, 1 minute 17 seconds long, where they are simply

1:11:25

essentially tormenting an elderly

1:11:28

person because they need to get

1:11:30

votes. Let’s watch.

1:11:49

[music]

1:11:54

This is your choice, and

1:12:04

[music]

1:12:12

put a check mark or a cross.

1:12:26

[music]

1:12:33

[music]

1:12:38

A gift certificate for the girl later,

1:12:41

she’ll explain afterward what needs to be done here. Oh,

1:12:46

they’ll explain it to the girl later.

1:12:48

Later, yes, yes.

1:12:50

So you understand the degree of

1:12:54

vileness here? It’s not even just “for the new Russia” anymore,

1:12:57

you don’t even need to say more than: “Are you for Russia,”

1:12:58

for Nazi Germany, are you for Russia or for

1:13:01

the people who have just taken away my pension?” I mean,

1:13:03

that is,

1:13:04

it’s abuse, and the people understand everything.

1:13:07

The people understand perfectly well that these

1:13:09

percentages for Putin are obtained in exactly this way.

1:13:12

would have been done, and if they could have,

1:13:15

done otherwise, he would have gone for a proper

1:13:17

referendum. He would have rigged it, he would have

1:13:20

campaigned there, there would have been massive

1:13:22

propaganda, but he would at least have tried

1:13:25

to win in a referendum where

1:13:27

there are at least a few observers. But

1:13:29

our Vladimir

1:13:31

Vladimirovich got scared, lost his nerve, and at that moment he

1:13:34

lost. It is very important to understand this well and

1:13:37

to be fully aware of it. In Mordovia (a republic in Russia),

1:13:39

they were making a report about how early

1:13:42

voting was just really great and

1:13:44

very honest, and so, well, you know,

1:13:46

Mordovia is roughly like Chechnya when it comes

1:13:48

to voting patterns, so in Mor-

1:13:51

they had become so relaxed that while they were filming all this,

1:13:54

their footage actually captured

1:13:56

a ballot-stuffing moment. They deleted it all, but

1:13:58

one fragment remained. Let's watch it. You have

1:14:00

two seconds. Also, no one had any

1:14:02

questions about the legitimacy of the process.

1:14:04

The voting process is proceeding

1:14:07

in an organized manner. No violations were observed.

1:14:10

No violations

1:14:11

were observed. No violations were observed.

1:14:14

Near the ballot box, there were constantly

1:14:17

observers from political

1:14:19

parties and public associations.

1:14:26

No violations were observed. Well, just imagine

1:14:30

a polling station, and local Mordovian television arrived there to film.

1:14:33

Local Mordovian television came to shoot footage,

1:14:34

and of course, when television is filming,

1:14:37

everyone dressed up.

1:14:38

They sit there and try to make it look like

1:14:41

some kind of normal process, but even during

1:14:43

this process they say, come on, let's do

1:14:46

what's needed there, film it, please,

1:14:48

show it, please, we'll film her

1:14:50

putting the ballot into the box, and

1:14:52

she takes a stack and stuffs it in, and they film it.

1:14:55

This is normal. As our friend

1:14:57

Yelena Malysheva says, "This is normal, this is how it works."

1:14:59

A huge scandal was caused

1:15:04

simply by a video that was published

1:15:05

by a Moscow...

1:15:07

It was very, very revealing: a Moscow

1:15:10

family came to vote at a Moscow

1:15:12

polling station and discovered that

1:15:14

all of them already had check marks next to their names.

1:15:20

In Moscow, all of them already had check marks next to their names.

1:15:22

And it's very interesting how

1:15:25

the events unfold. First, the person who

1:15:28

was sitting right by the voter register

1:15:30

got scared because

1:15:32

they had been caught red-handed. Here are the people, here are

1:15:35

the check marks next to the surnames. What

1:15:36

do you do? And then an older woman comes over,

1:15:39

and we see how instantly the system

1:15:42

switches and says, "Oh yeah? Prove it."

1:15:43

Look, let's watch it, this is really a great

1:15:45

moment.

1:15:54

[music]

1:16:17

Look, this is my daughter.

1:16:21

[music]

1:16:24

This is a separate criminal

1:16:31

case. How can you accept this? It was just

1:17:00

a violation right there, well yes, there it is.

1:17:10

That moment, did you see it?

1:17:11

"Prove it." Your vote was literally just

1:17:14

stolen from you — that is, they stole your vote, they are

1:17:16

criminals. They took everything from your family.

1:17:18

"Prove it." She took the folder for herself,

1:17:21

that's it, and she's holding it. What will happen to this woman

1:17:24

is a big question, a big question. Most

1:17:27

likely, nothing, because the system will

1:17:29

protect all such people, and the system

1:17:32

from the start guaranteed all these

1:17:35

people: do whatever you want, it doesn't matter.

1:17:38

This video caused a stir

1:17:40

precisely because of that sheer brazenness — that

1:17:42

"Prove it." I watched it

1:17:45

several times, and it really, really makes my blood

1:17:46

boil a little every time you watch

1:17:48

it. But that is how things are set up here.

1:17:51

There are a lot of questions here about the Nenets Autonomous Okrug (a federal district in Russia).

1:17:53

One person asks why in the Nenets

1:17:55

Autonomous Okrug, 54 percent voted against it,

1:17:57

while in other regions everything was different with

1:17:58

the results. Regular viewers of our

1:18:02

program know this very well: the Nenets Autonomous Okrug is

1:18:05

a small federal subject

1:18:07

with very high salaries, where

1:18:09

the level of falsification has traditionally been low.

1:18:12

I told you, probably even in

1:18:14

two programs in a row quite recently, that

1:18:16

all the residents of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug were recently enraged by

1:18:19

the federal center,

1:18:20

which announced that it would hold

1:18:22

a referendum and merge them

1:18:24

with Arkhangelsk Region, and for all local

1:18:26

residents

1:18:27

this was a really important issue, because

1:18:29

it means benefits, it's an oil-and-gas

1:18:31

region, salaries are high there, and they value

1:18:34

their small autonomy and their

1:18:37

relatively prosperous life, and there really

1:18:40

everyone there just went furious, at Putin and

1:18:43

simply went and voted against it, and also

1:18:46

basically refused to falsify the results.

1:18:47

Interestingly, this is developing in such

1:18:51

a way that I saw an article today saying that

1:18:54

some pro-Putin political analyst

1:18:55

named Marat Bashirov actually stated, by the way,

1:18:58

that now, there in the Nenets

1:19:01

Autonomous Okrug, those who

1:19:02

voted against it will have to

1:19:04

pay for it — that's a literal quote. So

1:19:07

basically: you voted against

1:19:10

Vladimir Vladimirovich,

1:19:11

now you will pay for it. It will be very

1:19:14

interesting to see how events develop.

1:19:16

But well done to the residents of the Nenets Autonomous

1:19:18

Okrug.

1:19:19

And this is simply, in pure form, a situation

1:19:22

that the Kremlin created for itself. They

1:19:24

pushed into it, people got angry, and then

1:19:27

no one bothered falsifying anything, and that was that.

1:19:28

and even this whole system, this system

1:19:31

of outright, total falsification didn't work

1:19:34

because here, well, as he shouts

1:19:37

he threatens, or there, there, really at

1:19:38

the level of the elite, probably the governor wanted

1:19:41

more, but everyone else kind of didn't

1:19:45

join in this system of total

1:19:48

fraud. It will be interesting to see what happens next there

1:19:51

what will happen, but it's interesting

1:19:52

it's striking that repressing people for

1:19:57

disagreeing with this referendum, they in

1:20:00

the regions

1:20:01

have tried and are trying in all seriousness

1:20:04

because on the one hand they said that

1:20:06

no rules or laws apply here

1:20:08

are in force

1:20:08

those were the official responses, and no

1:20:10

campaigning—no campaigning at all—is restricted

1:20:13

because it is not regulated by law

1:20:15

because this vote, it is not

1:20:17

regulated by law. But for example

1:20:19

in Voskresensk, a person simply hung on

1:20:22

their balcony a banner saying, "I am against the amendments"

1:20:24

well, it would seem, right: "I am against the amendments." You

1:20:28

would assume what happened? You probably

1:20:29

think someone from

1:20:32

building management came, called, and said

1:20:34

something like, "Stepanych, please deal with them"

1:20:36

our local mayor doesn't like it

1:20:38

the police came, the firefighters came

1:20:42

in order to take down this banner. The whole 10-

1:20:44

second message: a person is against the amendments

1:20:53

had expressed their view

1:20:54

Volkov didn't hang it up

1:20:56

the police arrived immediately

1:20:59

the police

1:21:01

the firefighters

1:21:02

now they're going to fuss and take it down

1:21:05

not allowed

1:21:27

[music]

1:21:33

the person here gathered

1:21:35

people are gradually coming over

1:21:39

[applause]

1:21:41

brother, rights or not, it doesn't matter anyway

1:21:45

why these cases of campaigning are so great—I've

1:21:50

been saying it constantly: campaigning, campaigning,

1:21:52

campaigning. They'll draw whatever results they want, and

1:21:54

they built a system that will produce

1:21:56

the results they need. All those 78, well

1:21:59

that means 78 percent had been planned in advance

1:22:00

but when someone hangs something on a balcony, then

1:22:04

who cares what the result will be? People walk around

1:22:06

people understand: so I'm not the only one after all

1:22:09

they forced me to vote, but someone in our

1:22:11

building hung something on their balcony, and someone somewhere else

1:22:14

spoke out, so of course

1:22:15

they react immediately, and so on

1:22:16

they rush over and take it down. By the way, those who have long

1:22:19

followed my work know that in 2013

1:22:21

when I ran for mayor of Moscow

1:22:25

one form of campaigning that we

1:22:27

used simply drove Sobyanin (then Moscow mayor)

1:22:28

up the wall. They deployed

1:22:30

an entire, I don't know, team of climbers because

1:22:34

we made banners that

1:22:36

said "For Navalny," and told

1:22:37

people: hang them on your balcony, and from

1:22:40

the rooftops they rappelled down, tore them off, climbed up on

1:22:44

ladders and ripped them down, because it is exactly

1:22:46

this kind of campaigning that drives them crazy

1:22:50

because their task is to intimidate us with their

1:22:55

nonexistent percentages so that we

1:22:57

sit there and think, "Oh, 78, that's scary." But if

1:23:02

you see it on this balcony, on that balcony

1:23:04

you understand there's nothing there—none of that 78

1:23:07

percent. Yes, it instantly

1:23:10

changes people. That's why: campaigning, campaigning,

1:23:13

campaigning. In Syktyvkar, amusingly, two

1:23:15

young women staged some kind of action; they

1:23:17

put on a performance called

1:23:19

"The Last Amendments." Let's take a look—it's all of

1:23:21

2 seconds

1:23:22

well, frankly, nothing especially dangerous

1:23:25

for the Putin regime. Let's watch

1:24:21

well, it's like a performance, a strange

1:24:24

artistic, maybe political, maybe

1:24:26

artistic action. They posted it online

1:24:28

and online it was seen by practically no one

1:24:31

yet an administrative case was opened against

1:24:34

them for distributing information

1:24:37

that insults the Constitution of the Russian

1:24:40

Federation

1:24:40

because this is exactly what they fear. For them

1:24:44

when a person goes to a polling station and

1:24:46

votes, they'll just rewrite it anyway

1:24:49

but if you do something in order to

1:24:52

move even one person to react

1:24:54

simply draw the attention of even one person

1:24:57

that is already treated as something dangerous

1:25:00

I just want to urge everyone once again—there are many

1:25:03

questions about what to do, how we will proceed

1:25:06

in September, what we will do afterward, but for now

1:25:10

overall, despite the fact that right now

1:25:14

everyone is a little tense and upset

1:25:17

by this result, the situation is shaping up

1:25:19

very well for Smart Voting, for

1:25:23

defeating United Russia, for defeating

1:25:24

Putin. What do we need? We need

1:25:26

people who are strongly opposed to this government—there are

1:25:30

20 to 30 percent of them, and they exist. This

1:25:34

nationwide vote has directly

1:25:37

added a few new percentage points for us

1:25:40

of people who are genuinely irritated, enraged, or at least

1:25:44

very dissatisfied. Plus all this COVID

1:25:47

plus the fact that they didn't help anyone—people

1:25:50

don't like what's happening, and therefore

1:25:52

the conditions for our work are very good

1:25:56

31 regions—large, huge regions

1:25:59

huge cities: Novosibirsk, Tomsk

1:26:02

Chelyabinsk, Voronezh. There is a problem, of course

1:26:05

yes, but right now 97,000 people

1:26:06

are watching live—that's a lot

1:26:09

you're all great, thank you for watching

1:26:10

Moscow, St. Petersburg

1:26:12

life is arranged in such a way that

1:26:14

residents of Moscow and

1:26:16

St. Petersburg who are opposition-minded think that more or less

1:26:18

the election in Voronezh doesn't matter

1:26:19

It’s like election zero.

1:26:20

Not in the Republic of Chad, or in some community somewhere.

1:26:23

No, that’s some kind of nonsense, it’s not at all...

1:26:24

There’s no politics there at all, none whatsoever — there are actually 31...

1:26:28

regions, regions like yours.

1:26:30

lawless places like Tambov, where there is...

1:26:33

By the way, our team is really great.

1:26:34

And there will be a real battle there the whole time.

1:26:37

They rig things, but it’s genuinely difficult, yes, but...

1:26:39

They will fight. There are regions where, with...

1:26:42

the help of Smart Voting, we will deprive...

1:26:44

United Russia of its majority, or at least...

1:26:46

at a minimum, throw out a lot of United Russia members.

1:26:50

That is exactly why the authorities already want to...

1:26:53

make voting last seven days. Already in...

1:26:55

September it will be difficult — we will need thousands...

1:26:58

thousands and thousands of observers, and once again one of our...

1:27:02

most important tools will be...

1:27:04

this program.

1:27:05

Through it, I’ll simply drive you...

1:27:08

crazy with my appeals: come on...

1:27:10

sign up as observers, come and...

1:27:12

vote. We will do all of this, and we...

1:27:14

will be able to make an impact there — not everywhere...

1:27:17

But can they really falsify things if...

1:27:20

there is an observer and if there is some kind of...

1:27:23

procedure? It is possible to throw United Russia out.

1:27:25

That’s why they are so afraid, that’s why they are so...

1:27:28

worried, that’s why they are trying so hard...

1:27:29

to intimidate us with these 78 percent...

1:27:32

these 78 percent. The most important thing is your...

1:27:37

effort. As the saying goes, without effort you can’t even catch a fish...

1:27:41

from a pond. Just imagine: Putin, his...

1:27:44

administration, all executive bodies...

1:27:47

of power...

1:27:48

in the regions — that’s thousands of people, tens of...

1:27:51

thousands of people who every day do something...

1:27:53

to strengthen Putin’s power.

1:27:55

Millions of person-hours.

1:27:57

We will achieve nothing until we ourselves...

1:28:01

put in millions of person-hours.

1:28:04

Think of any political events...

1:28:06

of recent times. If I ask you...

1:28:08

what independent thing happened in...

1:28:11

politics that caught your attention over...

1:28:13

the last 15 years or so, you would say...

1:28:15

there were protests in 2011...

1:28:18

there were protests, protests in Odesa, but...

1:28:19

then there were huge demonstrations. It was...

1:28:22

such hard work to organize those...

1:28:25

demonstrations. First of all, at first there was...

1:28:26

the campaign “for any party except United...

1:28:28

Russia.”

1:28:28

Then everyone worked like crazy to gather...

1:28:31

people, wrote posts, organized...

1:28:34

came up with new actions. Then there was...

1:28:35

my 2013 campaign for mayor...

1:28:38

of Moscow, which also, well, in many ways...

1:28:40

changed politics in the country. It was...

1:28:43

just enormous work overall...

1:28:46

the work of thousands of people, and there was an enormous...

1:28:49

a huge number of volunteers who...

1:28:51

for practically nothing hauled around those campaign cubes (street canvassing stands).

1:28:54

The rallies “He Is Not Dimon to You” (an anti-corruption protest slogan referring to Dmitry Medvedev).

1:28:56

But that didn’t happen by itself. It wasn’t just that we said...

1:28:58

I recorded a little video and said, “Let’s hold rallies.”

1:29:01

We organized 80 headquarters in 80 locations...

1:29:06

submitted applications, distributed...

1:29:08

videos, wrote things — in other words, we invested...

1:29:10

invested, invested, invested the work of my...

1:29:13

movement.

1:29:14

In 2018, I was not...

1:29:15

registered, but there were, I don’t know...

1:29:18

those nomination groups...

1:29:20

in a huge number of regions, and I...

1:29:22

held dozens of huge rallies across...

1:29:25

the whole country. But that work — I nearly died...

1:29:28

while traveling around and holding those rallies, just...

1:29:30

endlessly. That’s why we need to invest ourselves.

1:29:32

Without each person’s contribution, we...

1:29:35

won’t achieve anything. Of course, you want...

1:29:38

of course you want there to be...

1:29:40

some kind of dramatic event that overturns...

1:29:42

the elections, or Putin just runs away himself...

1:29:44

or they betray Putin, or something...

1:29:46

hits him on the head like a brick — but that’s not...

1:29:48

how it works. We have to do all of this, we have to...

1:29:51

go out into the streets. Without rallies, without...

1:29:53

mass actions, nothing at all...

1:29:55

will work. Because right now they...

1:29:58

are very afraid of Smart Voting, but...

1:30:00

what they fear most is the consequences.

1:30:03

Because they won’t allow our candidates into Smart...

1:30:05

Voting, and then we will go...

1:30:07

out.

1:30:08

The residents of Novosibirsk or Tambov will come out and...

1:30:12

protest.

1:30:12

And what are they supposed to do with them...

1:30:15

disperse them, shoot them? What would the...

1:30:17

further consequences be? That is what they...

1:30:19

are afraid of: when people start coming out into the...

1:30:22

streets.

1:30:23

And all the rest of the people will notice you for it.

1:30:25

Without these systematic...

1:30:28

efforts, nothing will work. Putin has been in power for 20 years...

1:30:32

Putin is in power.

1:30:33

Look how spry he is, swimming in the pool...

1:30:35

and, I don’t know, somewhere in Russia they’re...

1:30:37

probably just now sewing him a new...

1:30:38

cybernetic leg and all that sort of thing, and...

1:30:40

he’ll sit there for another 20 years.

1:30:43

And we’ll keep worrying. I’ll already be...

1:30:46

sitting here completely gray-haired...

1:30:48

and all that, and we’ll be making a lot of...

1:30:50

jokes about how it’s unclear who...

1:30:52

has been around longer — the authorities or...

1:30:55

the opposition. But without these real...

1:30:58

investments of effort from each of us, without...

1:31:01

your, say, five hours...

1:31:03

that you invest in this work...

1:31:06

nothing will work. And in September, we have...

1:31:10

a really excellent chance to hit back at them.

1:31:15

We don’t know what will happen. We...

1:31:18

do know there will be a sophisticated fight against...

1:31:22

us, against Smart Voting — a super...

1:31:24

sophisticated fight. In Novosibirsk, for example...

1:31:26

for example, an entire coalition has been put forward there...

1:31:28

against the current authorities, which...

1:31:30

is essentially a merger of United Russia

1:31:33

and the Communists. This coalition is led by

1:31:35

Sergei Boyko, the man who came

1:31:37

in second place in the mayoral election

1:31:39

in Novosibirsk—that is, the most popular

1:31:40

opposition politician. This coalition

1:31:42

will knock out United Russia. Tomorrow they won’t

1:31:44

register anyone. What needs to be done in this

1:31:46

situation? We’ll have to think: either they won’t

1:31:49

register the strong candidates, and they’ll register

1:31:51

the weak ones. It will be a very difficult road with

1:31:55

hard decisions, but without the investment of

1:31:58

everyone’s effort

1:31:59

nothing will work. There’s no such thing as

1:32:02

still saying, after all,

1:32:04

“I’m still me, which means I’m not sitting on the couch, because

1:32:06

I went and voted, but overall, whatever happens there

1:32:09

somewhere out there,”

1:32:11

“I don’t really like hanging out.” Everyone

1:32:13

has to sacrifice at least something.

1:32:15

Everyone has to go, everyone has to

1:32:17

go hand out leaflets. Most importantly,

1:32:19

everyone should write down on a piece of paper the circle

1:32:21

of their acquaintances and friends, and each one should be

1:32:24

persuaded, at least a little. Put something up in

1:32:26

your apartment building entrance, hang a leaflet, and so on.

1:32:28

It may sound very primitive, but

1:32:31

Putin’s approval rating, as I explained in my

1:32:34

last video, is the foundation. So we

1:32:37

need right now, from this Putin-loyal, brainwashed

1:32:39

mass, to knock out 10 percent—just

1:32:42

10 percent. Once we knock them out

1:32:47

from there, the whole thing will simply fall apart.

1:32:50

And Putin understands this very well, because

1:32:53

right now everything is being held together basically by

1:32:56

intimidation. And that intimidation works

1:32:58

very well. It showed itself very clearly

1:33:01

in the remarkable story involving

1:33:04

Andrei Malakhov, which I want

1:33:05

to use to wrap up this broadcast. It’s a pretty good

1:33:08

example. So, Andrei Malakhov works,

1:33:11

of course, for Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel),

1:33:12

but he didn’t seem to have been publicly involved

1:33:15

in any overt political actions, and then

1:33:17

this unpleasant thing happened to him. Mikhail

1:33:19

Zygar is a well-known journalist. He

1:33:21

puts on these kind of audio performances

1:33:24

that—I haven’t taken part in them, so I find it hard

1:33:26

to say exactly.

1:33:28

They give you headphones, you walk around listening

1:33:30

to some audio as you walk through Moscow, and

1:33:31

it just so happened that at the same time, during

1:33:34

the voting, people dissatisfied with it began gathering on Pushkinskaya Square

1:33:36

and there

1:33:38

part of the tour was passing through. So there go

1:33:40

Zygar, Malakhov, and some other people—

1:33:43

all media figures, recognizable journalists.

1:33:45

Naturally, people start photographing them,

1:33:48

and everyone starts writing, “Andrei Malakhov came out to

1:33:51

Pushkinskaya Square”—well, rather, to protest,

1:33:53

and the man got so scared

1:33:56

that he immediately

1:34:00

recorded a video to justify himself, like,

1:34:03

“Good Lord, I happened to be out on the street, and they asked me there

1:34:06

whether Malakhov was protesting—of course not,”

1:34:07

“I was just passing by accidentally.” But now even that is no longer

1:34:10

enough—you have to record a special

1:34:13

video explaining that you were there

1:34:15

by accident, that you’re not in the opposition, and that you

1:34:18

just voted in favor of the

1:34:20

amendments. Here is Andrei Malakhov’s little 29-second disgrace:

1:34:23

“Friends, I’m just furious. You know, all it took was for me, for once in my life, to go to this mobile theater

1:34:26

once in my life, by invitation from

1:34:29

Katya Varnava and Sasha

1:34:31

Molochnikov, and as a result you get

1:34:34

lumped in with the people gathered on Pushkinskaya

1:34:37

Square. Calm down, yes, I’m outside politics.

1:34:42

I voted today for the constitutional amendments,

1:34:45

so have a good evening, everyone,

1:34:47

take care of yourselves and your loved ones.”

1:34:50

Andrei Malakhov is losing his mind over the thought that

1:34:53

someone might think he didn’t vote

1:34:55

for the amendments. It’s a perfect illustration of

1:34:57

what we understand: that poor Andrei

1:34:59

Malakhov

1:35:00

if he voted at all, most likely

1:35:01

voted against, and of how all this

1:35:04

is arranged, and of what a complete fiction

1:35:07

the whole thing rests on. There is no 78 percent.

1:35:10

This vote is a complete fake,

1:35:13

a forgery. We do not recognize it, and now we

1:35:15

need to come together, get to work, and crush

1:35:20

—forgive the word—United Russia in

1:35:22

September, and prepare to simply

1:35:25

tear it apart in the elections.

1:35:28

It will be hard with the State Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament), but no one

1:35:30

except us is going to do this. Many

1:35:32

thanks to everyone who watched. See you

1:35:34

next Thursday. Bye.

1:35:44

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