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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it's exactly 8:00 p.m.

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That means we're live on air

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its

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permanent host, Alexei Navalny.

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Or, as the Kremlin media called me this week,

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someone who decided to make money off

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supporting Sanders. For some reason, that's what the Kremlin media were calling me this week. I

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wrote a couple of tweets saying that I

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liked Sanders's campaign back in the day,

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really liked Sanders.

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For some reason, they think that I somehow

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decided to profit from it. Send me

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your questions on Twitter with the hashtag

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#RussiaOfTheFuture, and I'll try to

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answer them. Thank you very much for watching

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the show. Last week's broadcast got

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a million views in a week.

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I think that's the third episode since the beginning of the year

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to get more than a million

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views. That's great, that's awesome.

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It shows that people are coming to

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YouTube, they're watching more and more

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and more, and people are looking for truthful information.

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That's great because, well, I still

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allow myself to hope that my program is

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not just a program, but a kind of

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collective organizer. We're doing

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important things here, and together with you we will actively

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take part in and influence,

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in particular, the upcoming State Duma elections

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and regional parliament elections. We will do something

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about this so-called referendum

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that isn't really a referendum; we don't yet know exactly what,

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but we do know that we will act. And it's very

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good that so many people, in one way or another,

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want to be practically

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involved in politics. A bit later today we'll talk a lot more

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about how many

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different people are entering politics, like

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Sergei Shnurov, and I'm sure we'll see

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many more exotic characters.

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But I wanted to start by following up on our

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coverage of the Network case. This is the most important

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political trial of recent years, and

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it's very striking—encouraging, even—

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to see that the outrage that

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was enormous immediately

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after those utterly outrageous

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sentences in a fabricated case

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based on testimony obtained

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under torture—that outrage has not subsided.

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Quite often, what happens is something like this:

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we're very outraged on the first day, a little less

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the next day, and by the third

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day only the most

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consistent people are still outraged, and after a week no one

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remembers anything. That didn't happen here. This is

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very good.

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Apparently, this kind of blatant

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inhumanity—the fact that innocent people

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were seized, tortured, and then

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sentenced to 18 years in prison—has simply

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outraged all sorts of people, which is very

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right. In the context of the Network case,

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other cases are being discussed too.

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Various ones. I can already see a question from Nila

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Danilina, who's asking me for the second time:

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the prosecution has requested prison terms for the defendants in the

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New Greatness case in the Lyublino District Court, and then

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the judge suddenly fell ill. The next

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hearing is on March 3. Why might that be?

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It's very easy to explain. Look at the photos:

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a huge number of

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people showed up. People are standing in one-person pickets,

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and the Kremlin, which gives the orders

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to fabricate these cases, is also watching

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public opinion. What's happening now

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around the Network case—and if

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there are similarly monstrous

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sentences in the New Greatness case—

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that can't fail to worry them, at the very least,

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because what have we seen over the past week?

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Teachers wrote a collective

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letter. Not just one or two

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good people—people really weren't afraid.

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Teachers from different schools across the country

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wrote a collective letter. Doctors

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wrote a collective letter. We've seen this before,

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there was something similar with the Moscow cases,

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but the Network case had somehow

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still remained a bit

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on the periphery before. Many people were frightened by the fact

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that it involved terrorism charges.

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But once people got a little more closely

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acquainted with the actual facts of the case, they

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saw just how completely

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fabricated it all was. Let me repeat:

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this is very important for all of us to remember:

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there is not a single victim in

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this case, yet people received sentences ranging from

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12 to 18 years. There was also something completely unprecedented:

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several bookstores

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around the country—not all bookstores,

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not hundreds of bookstores,

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but several bookstores—

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for the first time I can remember,

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announced a one-day strike in

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protest against all this. And if we look at

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how many people are coming to

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the one-person pickets for the Network case, it's

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just an enormous line.

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At these pickets—one-person pickets—

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just to stand there for 10 minutes

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in the cold, hundreds of people are waiting in huge

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lines. What's interesting is that establishment politicians,

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seeing all this—people who generally try

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to avoid getting involved in things like this—

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are also speaking out on the subject.

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And today Gennady Zyuganov spoke about it. We can

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be as ironic as we like,

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saying, well, Zyuganov only said it because someone told him to,

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or that he's being cautious, or that he used to

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stay silent or didn't—but in any case,

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however you look at it, he is the leader of the largest

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opposition party.

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It's a party that is sometimes not at all

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oppositional, and sometimes quite the opposite.

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Opposition or not, he really is

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the leader of the largest opposition party.

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and he publicly spoke out about it.

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the Network case. Let's watch 35 seconds.

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But perhaps the security agencies

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are being overzealous in handling cases like this.

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The sentences are clearly excessive, and the charges

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are far from well-founded. In my view, we need

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to look into all of this much more carefully

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and not see every youth group

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as conspirators or people preparing

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to overthrow the system.

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I absolutely do not like this criminal

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oligarchic rule.

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It is unnatural for our country, and

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there is no justice in Russia here at all.

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Whether you like Zyuganov or not,

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whether you trust him or not, that's beside the point.

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The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is a separate issue, but he did say it.

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Good for him—the leader of the largest opposition

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party. Many in the Communist Party—I saw Rashkin

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recorded a video address and spoke on this

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topic. And separately, what really

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pleasantly surprised me was this: when I was a child,

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in my youth, when I was little, I

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adored the band Alisa.

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I still really love their early albums.

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I remember them all by heart. Konstantin Kinchev,

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who actually, broadly speaking, is not at all

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—you can watch his interview with Dud (Yury Dud)—

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for example, and he has the kind of views where he

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criticizes Russian

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reality a little, but at the same time repeats

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full-blown pro-Putin nonsense, like:

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"We must unite around the leader,

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because otherwise they will take away

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our Siberia from us—the Americans." That's the kind of

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core lie of United Russia, and all of that

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Konstantin Kinchev unfortunately repeats.

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Nevertheless,

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let's watch 12 seconds. At one of the

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concerts, he said outright that the song

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was dedicated to the defendants in the Network case.

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Yes.

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What Kinchev did is very important.

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I'll say it again: very important, because,

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well, he has always belonged to a somewhat different

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group—those who in recent years have, one way or another,

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consistently supported the authorities. But here

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these tortures themselves—

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they really did torture people; their teeth were broken,

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they were shocked with electricity—so

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these were literally fascistic tortures to which

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they subjected

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innocent people—or people guilty only of

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having created some kind of

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ridiculous paramilitary group and

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running around in the woods playing airsoft.

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We can ask them, guys, what exactly are you

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doing running around in the woods playing airsoft? What are you

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preparing for there? If you are preparing for something

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bad,

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then let's have a logical conversation with you.

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But they were beaten with electric shocks,

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and then sentenced to 18 years, and nobody

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likes that. I see people are asking me

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about the Nemtsov March (a memorial march for murdered opposition politician Boris Nemtsov). Irina

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Pavlova is asking me, please tell us

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about the Nemtsov March—will you go?

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Of course I will. I will go. Official approval has been obtained.

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I go every year, and the topic of

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the Network case, the New Greatness case, and in general

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torture and the transformation of our state into

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a state that tortures its own citizens

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will be one of the main themes of the march

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this year. So on the 29th at 1:00 p.m.,

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everything has been approved—do come.

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There will definitely be a procession there. When I

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say that our state

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is turning into a state that already

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openly tortures its citizens, that is not

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a slip of the tongue or an exaggeration. We have always

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understood that torture existed in the Russian police.

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People were beaten; at times there was a lot of it,

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then supposedly less, but

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now it really is a kind of state

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policy, and specifically in political cases.

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First of all. Second, we see that torture

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is being used against certain groups

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that emphasize, emphasize their

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apolitical nature, which is very important.

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That is what different people are feeling, by the way.

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You may not be politicians, much less

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opposition politicians, but when someone is

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being tortured, you understand that it can

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come for you too. And probably the best

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example here is Jehovah's Witnesses and what is

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being done to them. This is a subject

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I would not call slippery; for me it is

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completely clear. I just know that other

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politicians—probably almost no one,

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except Roizman, as far as I know—speaks out on

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this issue.

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No one says anything

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about Jehovah's Witnesses, who are

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being subjected to repression in our

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country, and now even torture. For me, as

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a religious believer, this matters because

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Jehovah's Witnesses really are

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a kind of sect, a distinct movement, but it is

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certainly a movement of a Christian kind, and

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in Russia right now, these very Christians

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are being tortured.

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There is a lot about them that is strange,

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internally, and the main complaint against them

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is that they prohibit blood

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transfusions, which can accordingly lead

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to the death of a person who follows

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this branch of Christianity.

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There is a lot of debate over whether they are Christians or not,

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but mainstream

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religious studies says quite

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clearly that Jehovah's Witnesses are

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a Christian denomination, and right now

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these police officers are torturing them despite

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the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses, for example,

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It is clearly stated in their charter that they

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are forbidden from engaging in political

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activity—that is, they are prohibited from

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speaking either against Putin or in support of

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Putin. Nevertheless, some idiot decided

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that across the country they should first start rounding them up

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and jailing them, and now they are starting to seize them and

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torture them. That is what, in particular, was done

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by yet another bunch of fascists in uniform

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in Chita. Let’s take a minute

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to listen—look at what happened in Chita,

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please. If you want to call them

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sectarians, fine, let’s call them sectarians.

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In Chita, these “sectarians” are modest, quiet people

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living in a modest apartment

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of their own. Why their door was broken down and why they were

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tortured—no one understands, except perhaps

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this strange state of theirs.

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Let’s listen: “They broke the door and the lock. The thing was,

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interestingly, it doesn’t even close properly anymore, and

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they tried to... we didn’t even have time to do anything here.

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They broke down our door and burst into our

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apartment, threw my husband onto the floor, and

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me as well.

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Force was used against me today too, but I myself—I

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sat down on the floor. They began putting pressure on me,

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trying to get some kind of confession,

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trying to beat some kind of

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confession out of me,

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asking me to testify against other

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Jehovah’s Witnesses, trying to make me give them

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names, surnames, and addresses.

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I said that I would cooperate only

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with the investigator in the presence of

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my lawyer. Then they pulled

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a hat over my face and drove me out to the woods, to the area by

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the Yubileiny Stadium.

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I asked everyone who was participating in this

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medical

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examination to identify themselves. No one gave

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their first or last names, and they did not provide me with any

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documents. When I started addressing

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the person who had tortured me,

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because I clearly recognized him, he

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hesitated, and the escort immediately rushed me out, and

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the medical worker hurriedly took some kind of

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readings from me,

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measured something with a ruler, and left.”

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They live in Chita.

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Quiet people. Fine, let’s call them

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crazy sectarians—let them be crazy

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sectarians. They sit quietly on their

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little couch at home and study the Bible.

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Originally, and in general, the name of this

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sect refers to people who study—

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a community of, I think, Bible researchers.

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They sit there reading their

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pamphlets and bothering absolutely no one. But

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of course, someone there—same as always—wants

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to earn another star on their epaulettes, so they need

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to break down this family’s

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door, rush in, take the husband to a stadium,

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beat him, and say, ‘You’re reading the wrong book,

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you’re praying to God the wrong way.’ In

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the literal sense, they are beaten because

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someone thinks they are not praying to God correctly. Well,

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the parallels here are just completely obvious

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with the Roman emperors and, therefore,

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with the actual persecution of Christians.

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And I think that, of course, we must

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talk about this, because in Moscow, in the major

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cities, among the generally educated

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public, we talk about New Greatness (a Russian political case),

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and rightly so; we talk about these

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various other trials, these

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political cases. But about how they persecute,

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for example, Jehovah’s Witnesses, very little is said.

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We need to talk about it. They are torturing people in the North

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Caucasus.

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In the North Caucasus, this is generally standard practice:

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torture, fabrication of criminal cases on

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made-up terrorism charges—this happens

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constantly. In Ingushetia, for example—about Ingushetia

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no one holds pickets, it is not covered nearly as well,

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but they have jailed a huge number of

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people there simply because of the rallies that

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took place quite recently against

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part of the territory being transferred to Chechnya. People

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were simply holding peaceful protests in

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their main square. They had every

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right—they had every right—to ask

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questions about why part of the territory

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was being handed over.

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They jailed them, and now there is a huge

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number of people in Chechnya and in Dagestan.

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It is an endless process: they seize

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some young men,

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torture them, beat confessions out of them that

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they financed terrorism, after which

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they are given monstrous prison terms. This

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happens constantly, and this is, of course,

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state policy. And I am very glad that

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more and more and more

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people

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are becoming outraged by all of this. So we must not

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stop being outraged. Let’s write

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about it, let’s talk about it, let’s

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come to the Nemtsov March and to one-person

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pickets on this issue. Viktor Medved asks me:

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‘Alexei,

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please comment on the interview, friends.’ Well,

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apparently he means the latest interview with

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Andrei Kolesnikov.

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He is quite a remarkable person.

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Watch this interview—it is very

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interesting, and I even included it in the plan for my

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program. I’m going to show you two clips from it now.

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Andrei Kolesnikov

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is, well, the chief chronicler of Putin’s life,

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a man who for 20 years has been the main

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pro-Putin journalist, and for 20 years

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has been writing these kinds of articles

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where he describes some event involving

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Putin and portrays everyone else

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as complete idiots, while Putin is presented not exactly as

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some super-cool guy, but rather as

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the only remotely normal

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person among a gathering of idiots.

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which various officials represent

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who, in Kolesnikov’s columns, are always

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very cowardly and terribly afraid of the main

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boss — I mean, that’s the kind of

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supposedly ironic and

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but always [ __ ] and his description of Putin

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and he gave an interview, and it will be very, very

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interesting also from the point of view that we can

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understand how these people — and Kolesnikov,

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who certainly used to be considered, and now

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considers himself, in my view,

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a very respected journalist, and basically all

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of journalism — a very well-connected journalist.

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Of course, he lies in the interview when he says that he

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gets eight or ten thousand

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dollars a month — he gets much

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more.

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For Kolesnikov, they even

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created some nonexistent magazine.

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He also presents himself as being with the magazine Mr.

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I forgot what it’s called — some magazine. That is,

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he works for the publishing house

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Kommersant, and I think he has the magazine *Russian Pioneer*

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there — Surkov once wrote a column for it,

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Surkov.

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Then Putin wrote a column there. All of this

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is financed in some unclear

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way.

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And apparently it’s simply a structure

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through which Andrei Kolesnikov is paid

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a lot of money for his sycophancy. But I kind of

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expected him to have some elegant,

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ironic answer as to why exactly

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he works as a lackey — but he just

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he simply kept, in that interview,

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acting like a lackey, really,

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without even being embarrassed that

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millions of people would see it. There’s an absolutely

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great, marvelous moment where Dud

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shows him those famous clips from those

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hockey games where everyone skates away from Putin,

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the defenders move aside, and the goalie

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deliberately lifts his leg so that

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the old man can slide his puck in, and

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Kolesnikov, completely seriously, starts

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saying: no, it’s normal, let’s take a look.

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Who, as they say — whatever anyone says —

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has a feel for the goal. There he is in the slot,

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standing there waiting for a pass.

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And then he scores. If you look carefully,

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they’re very difficult goals. I’m

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serious — you should watch.

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And they’re like that — right into one top corner,

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then the other — you can’t do that just in warm-up.

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Trying to find a way out — something’s not working, yes, yes.

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Yes, let’s watch this video here.

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There he is — well, is this the goal, or should we replay it now?

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This is typical Vladimir Putin, in the sense that

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look, he’s skating,

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the defenders are going in a completely different direction, and

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the puck, with incredible difficulty, goes into the

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spot that’s easy to cover. There’s no

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top corner here, no upper angle — but you

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see, the shot — is the shot really bad?

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The shot is monstrous — it goes straight into the goalie’s pad,

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and the goalie

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with a deft movement at the last moment

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manages to lift it

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so it slips through. Come on, let’s

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watch some more — no, like this, look, look.

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There, there — he can’t lift the puck off

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the ice, you see, he wanted to do it there,

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but — logically — you just picked an unsuccessful

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shot. That’s one unsuccessful one, maybe.

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Maybe there’s one successful shot.

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You understand, you can laugh at the cliché and

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say, sure, like, grandpa decided

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to play hockey and everyone is playing along with him.

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In a normal situation, there would be nothing

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terrible about that. But no — “what a great shot,”

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“is the shot really bad?” Well, you picked

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an unsuccessful shot, but in general it goes right into one

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top corner, then the other top corner. But still,

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everyone has seen this, everyone knows. But if now,

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after 20 years, you’re working as one of Putin’s

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lackeys, then you have to be a full-fledged

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Putin lackey. No one will forgive you

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if you say, “Well, no, as for

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the hockey game, because now isn’t

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the time...” They won’t forgive that — you’ll immediately

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be cut off from the feeding trough and have to live on

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just one salary, and you won’t be the editor-in-chief

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of a nonexistent

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magazine, *Russian Pioneer*, and no one will

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pay you for this

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nonexistent magazine. There’s also

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a moment that separately just

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delighted me. Kolesnikov is also very

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much like that, just

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you know, like: “Is the shot really bad?”

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They’re discussing why there are no

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fair elections in Russia, and Kolesnikov says something like:

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“Of course there are fair elections, but they

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lose in Germany, for example. And why

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wasn’t Navalny allowed? Well, he was allowed

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to run, and I don’t know why he stopped

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taking part in elections.” Let’s watch 26

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seconds.

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I’m simply stating that when he was

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allowed to run, in the Moscow mayoral

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election he got more than 20 percent. If he had continued,

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if he had kept going, taking part there in

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elections — why he

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didn’t continue, I don’t know. As for

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Navalny, I agree with you that

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Navalny got a lot of votes back then in the

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election, and probably could have been in the

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next one and the one after that, and

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he was invited there — so why didn’t he go?

21:00

Once, twice — well, I don’t want to get into that at all.

21:03

He just tosses it out there, just like

21:10

he just said — “puts it right in the top corner”

21:12

with a goal — and here too: “But he was invited.”

21:13

Why didn’t Navalny go, really?

21:15

Why didn’t he go to the election? I mean, I was supposedly

21:17

invited.

21:18

And Ella Pamfilova was running after me, shouting,

21:20

“Alexei, Alexei!”

21:21

So, we let you onto the ballot, we allowed you to run,

21:23

and then why aren’t you going? It’s so strange—

21:25

to the State Duma and everywhere else, all the candidates

21:28

for the Moscow City Duma were practically being invited outright; they were told,

21:30

“Come join us.”

21:32

“We don’t have enough great candidates.” And we

21:34

just turned around and went off—some people to eat

21:38

ice cream, others shawarma—because for some

21:40

secret reason, we supposedly just didn’t want to.

21:41

That is, he says this with a completely

21:44

straight face, knowing that millions of people will see it.

21:46

It’s been up for an hour and already has four and a half

21:47

million views, this interview. Those of you

21:50

who haven’t watched it—maybe later you

21:51

clicked in, thought, “Some random weirdo,”

21:53

and decided not to watch—well, you should watch it.

21:56

It’s very, very interesting and

21:58

instructive.

22:00

Alright, 35,000 people are watching us live right now.

22:02

I can see these little icons flying across the screen,

22:05

with Medvedev in the corner of the screen—that means

22:07

that some people are going down below

22:08

to the links in the description and helping the Anti-Corruption Foundation

22:11

continue to exist.

22:14

We always need that. We need your

22:17

support, of course, so please take a look there.

22:19

VDK News 24 is asking me here:

22:22

“Please comment on the situation with

22:24

Yukos and the $50 billion.”

22:27

It really is a complicated situation. On

22:30

the one hand, it’s simple; on the other,

22:31

it isn’t. It’s simple in the sense

22:33

that we understand perfectly well

22:35

that the criminal cases against Khodorkovsky

22:38

were fabricated—especially the second

22:41

Yukos case, which was one hundred percent fabricated

22:43

for political reasons. If they had wanted

22:46

to punish Khodorkovsky

22:48

for taxes or something else, then

22:50

they would have had to jail absolutely all

22:52

the oligarchs, because Khodorkovsky didn’t do

22:55

anything that all the others

22:58

among Russia’s oligarchs weren’t also doing—those

23:00

with whom Putin kisses, embraces, and

23:03

makes richer and richer every year.

23:05

So yes, the case was fabricated, and the company

23:08

was taken away.

23:08

And Yukos went to arbitration in The Hague, and Russia—

23:13

the Russian Federation—

23:14

this wasn’t the European Court of Human Rights

23:16

or anything like that; it was an arbitration

23:18

court, essentially a tribunal.

23:20

Russia, as a state, said: okay, we’re

23:23

prepared to litigate in this court. So when

23:26

people in the Kremlin now say, “Well, we

23:28

won’t comply, this is some kind of

23:29

lawless outrage, this is all nonsense,”

23:31

that’s just empty talk.

23:33

Russia officially agreed to comply with

23:35

whatever ruling would be issued there; it

23:37

recognized that arbitration. But then the question arises:

23:39

what about the $50 billion? Obviously,

23:42

Russia is not going to pay it back.

23:44

All sorts of lawyers will run around trying

23:45

to seize property. But in the beautiful

23:48

Russia of the future, should we return

23:50

$50 billion to Khodorkovsky—that is,

23:53

who exactly would be paying it back? Would

23:56

we have to take money from every Russian citizen?

23:58

Take several thousand rubles from each person

24:00

in order to repay the Yukos shareholders, because

24:03

bandits—Putin’s bandits, Putin himself,

24:07

and his Sechin—took from Khodorkovsky

24:09

this company, which Khodorkovsky himself, back in the day,

24:11

had acquired absolutely illegally,

24:14

just like all the other participants in the loans-for-shares

24:16

auctions, simply grabbed it from all of us.

24:18

I saw a tweet today that, I think,

24:20

let me quote in full—it describes this situation

24:23

in the best possible way:

24:25

“A brief description of the Yukos case:

24:28

the Komsomol guys grabbed the oil from the people; the chekists (security-service men)

24:31

grabbed the oil from the Komsomol guys; and now

24:33

the people have to pay for the oil that was grabbed

24:35

—$50 billion—

24:37

to the Komsomol guys, and in the end the Komsomol guys

24:39

will have dollars, the chekists will have oil,

24:41

and we’ll have neither oil nor money.” That

24:43

really is a complete description of what

24:46

is happening. So I believe that the ruling

24:50

issued in The Hague was, of course,

24:52

based on law, but overall

24:55

we must understand, first of all, that everything

24:59

that was done during the first and second

25:01

Yukos cases

25:02

was total lawlessness, and all the

25:05

people who carried out that lawlessness

25:08

must be brought, lawfully and fairly, before a

25:12

jury trial and held criminally accountable.

25:15

We need, so to speak, to remove the basis on which

25:19

that ruling was made. But as for

25:21

the loans-for-shares auctions

25:22

—and not only the loans-for-shares auctions, but

25:25

privatization in general—

25:27

that all needs to be dealt with separately, in a

25:29

civilized way, first and foremost

25:31

through taxation. Because what

25:34

Russia’s oligarchs represent—

25:35

all these former Komsomol and Party

25:37

functionaries who simply climbed onto

25:39

huge factories—this is not business at all.

25:41

It has nothing to do with business, nothing to do with

25:43

entrepreneurship, nothing at all. These people

25:46

just stole everything, and then other people stole

25:48

it all from them. That’s all. 40,000

25:51

people are watching live right now. Send me

25:52

your questions with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture

25:56

and I’ll try to answer them.

25:58

I see a question about Shiva Vihde—well, I’ll

26:02

say a bit about that later. I wanted

26:05

to talk about Krasnoyarsk. This is super important,

26:10

actually. There are really two parts

26:12

to it. Indeed, in

26:14

Krasnoyarsk, an environmental

26:16

disaster has occurred. I often, here on

26:19

my program, talk about this

26:22

special thing called

26:24

Krasnoyarsk’s “black sky” regime.

26:26

a unique city where they officially introduce

26:28

this "black sky" regime, which

26:30

is officially called a period of unfavorable

26:32

weather conditions, but of course all the residents

26:34

call it the "black sky" regime because

26:36

that’s what it is when the sky there is simply black

26:39

and that’s one part of the problem; the second

26:42

part of the problem is that it

26:44

is basically being completely ignored by all

26:46

the federal media, actually

26:49

and most federal politicians, in general,

26:51

ignore it all, and this time this

26:54

"black sky" regime was introduced

26:56

because something happened in Krasnoyarsk

26:58

some kind of extraordinary emissions, and

27:01

a buildup of these particles there, some kind of, well,

27:03

it was just hanging over the city—let’s watch the video

27:05

a short one that was filmed from

27:07

an observation deck, from this

27:09

observation point in Krasnoyarsk, this video was shot

27:12

from where Krasnoyarsk should be visible

27:13

in the best possible way—let’s take a look

27:15

let’s see what’s there—you

27:20

look at what we’re breathing

27:22

the city isn’t visible at all

27:33

[music]

27:34

to live

27:38

Krasnoyarsk is a city where, actually,

27:41

a million people live, and where there is

27:44

a huge number of industrial enterprises. These

27:47

enterprises bring in a great deal of money—to

27:50

oligarchs and to the state budget, well

27:53

that is, the residents of Krasnoyarsk, with their

27:56

lungs, their life expectancy,

27:59

their own health, are filling up

28:02

the oligarchs’ budgets and the state budget, and

28:05

basically nobody cares about them, and this time they

28:08

this time I just go onto

28:12

Instagram, into all sorts of text stories, and I see

28:14

it’s just flooded everywhere, everywhere, with people leaving

28:17

messages aimed at me so that I would see them

28:19

I see people tagging me, Dud, Shnur (Sergey Shnurov), any famous

28:24

people with big Instagram accounts, and

28:25

the city’s residents, driven to

28:28

desperation, simply started writing

28:31

to celebrities, even though they have

28:33

a governor, a prosecutor’s office,

28:36

a regional legislative assembly, a whole damn army of officials

28:39

there’s also the presidential envoy there, the federal envoy,

28:42

the chief federal inspector, and so on—that is,

28:45

there is a gigantic number of officials

28:47

they should be writing to them, not to Dud, Shnur, or me, and this is

28:51

just something truly monstrous

28:53

simply monstrous, and such disrespect

28:55

an insult to all these people, because

28:57

they simply have nowhere to turn, nowhere

29:00

to appeal, even though, once again, this is a city of a million

29:03

that brings in enormous amounts of money, and basically

29:05

nobody gives a damn about it. I asked our

29:07

coordinator Daniil Leongard in

29:09

Krasnoyarsk to record a short video for us

29:11

about what is happening there right now. Right now

29:13

this "black sky" regime has formally been

29:15

lifted in the city—let’s watch

29:17

Coordinator, tell us what’s happening

29:19

The "black sky" regime was introduced on February 14, and already

29:22

three days later, on the 17th, our city was in

29:24

first place in the global ranking for

29:26

air pollution levels. Smoking

29:28

coal-fired CHP plant smokestacks and the aluminum plant are

29:29

the main sources of air pollution

29:31

but the authorities blame everything on

29:33

motorists. All this time there was no

29:35

wind, and people were choking on chemical

29:37

emissions that had no time to

29:39

disperse: headaches, coughing,

29:41

sore throats, irritation of the mucous membranes

29:43

of the eyes—these were just a few of the symptoms that

29:45

healthy people experienced, while those who had

29:47

respiratory problems suffered

29:49

the most

29:51

This happens constantly, but this time

29:53

the situation reached a boiling point, and people

29:55

came out for one-person pickets and at rallies where

29:57

they handed out respirators and asked Yuri

29:59

Dud (a well-known Russian journalist and YouTuber) for help, and posts saying that

30:01

the federal media were ignoring the situation

30:04

were also shared by musician and poet Sergey Shnurov in

30:05

his Instagram. He expressed his opinion

30:08

in the form of a poem. The haze has now

30:10

cleared, and at last it’s possible to breathe, but

30:12

that’s thanks to the wind

30:14

and the local authorities, in terms of solving the problem,

30:16

traditionally did nothing

30:20

Well, this is what made me absolutely

30:23

furious. We have a city

30:25

whose environmental problems have not

30:26

been solved for many, many years, and here I

30:30

see Daniil Sologub writing: "Alexei,

30:33

what do you think, what is

30:34

the cause of the smog? Who is to blame for it?"

30:36

The cause of the smog is established there: it’s simply that

30:38

Krasnoyarsk is located in a kind of lowland, and

30:41

there are a huge number of industrial

30:44

enterprises and coal-fired boiler houses around it, and simply

30:46

the smog hangs over the city when there is no

30:48

wind, when there is severe frost—this is a known

30:51

fact, and the solution to this problem is also

30:54

known: all these oligarchs,

30:56

the owners of industrial enterprises

30:58

around the city, the owners of boiler plants—they should

31:01

install treatment facilities there, that is,

31:04

in the city of Krasnoyarsk, what needs to be done

31:06

is to make emissions much lower

31:09

than in any other large city, because

31:11

it simply has an unfavorable

31:13

geographical location

31:15

but basically nobody cares. All these people, all

31:18

these oligarchs—Deripaska and all the rest—

31:20

buy yachts, go wherever they please, and nobody

31:23

forces them to buy treatment

31:26

facilities. There is simply no pressure at all

31:29

the local authorities do not deal with it, nobody

31:32

deals with it, and the residents of Krasnoyarsk

31:34

run around writing to celebrities on Instagram

31:38

How could you humiliate the citizens of a

31:41

million-strong

31:44

industrial city even more, other than driving them

31:46

them to the point where they would run around

31:48

they were asking there

31:49

on Instagram, from Dud or from me

31:51

from Shnur (Sergey Shnurov) or from me. Shnur did well, he wrote

31:54

a poem—we’ll criticize it a little at the end

31:57

but in that sense I noticed

31:59

Peskov and the poem—locals are all rejoicing

32:02

some people are writing in blogs, but finally

32:04

they finally paid serious attention to us, well

32:08

that is, this shows the complete corruption

32:12

of the state system, its hostility

32:15

toward people—it just

32:17

once again, a very serious

32:20

proposal to the residents of Krasnoyarsk and

32:22

the Krasnoyarsk region in general: let’s

32:25

make sure it gets zero votes there

32:28

United Russia. If that happens

32:31

if we run that campaign, then the authorities will start

32:35

paying attention. Right now, the

32:38

working group on the Constitution is meeting—let’s

32:40

start a petition

32:41

I’ll support it and promote it in every way I can

32:44

let’s put it into the Constitution—if they’re

32:45

already writing whatever they want into the Constitution

32:48

at this stage

32:49

of Putin’s lifetime guarantees, then let’s

32:51

write into the Constitution that the residents of Russia

32:54

have the right to receive financial

32:57

compensation if their water and

33:00

air are polluted—so that residents

33:01

of Krasnoyarsk

33:02

could go out with a measuring device and say, “Oh, here

33:05

the maximum permissible concentration is exceeded by two

33:07

times. Please, Deripaska, from the aluminum

33:11

plants, pay me 5,000

33:14

rubles for every day that my children and I

33:17

have to breathe this air.” And then things will start

33:20

to change. That’s basically how it

33:22

will start working. We don’t, we don’t

33:24

necessarily have to apply some kind of

33:25

administrative pressure. But simply, if

33:27

you want to poison someone, then be

33:29

prepared

33:29

for lawsuits to be filed against you. Then everyone

33:31

will have to pay, and to avoid paying

33:33

you’ll stop polluting yourself. And United Russia

33:37

must get

33:38

zero, nothing. And every resident

33:42

of the city, if they don’t want to breathe this

33:44

filth, absolutely must

33:47

take part in Smart Voting and, in general,

33:50

in any campaign against this government

33:52

because there is also this demonstrative

33:55

contempt going on. In these very

33:57

same days, when Krasnoyarsk is under a

34:00

“black sky” regime, the governor, Uss,

34:03

who is an old acquaintance of ours from when we

34:05

ran campaigns and promoted

34:08

laws against illicit enrichment

34:10

and used his case, among others, to show

34:14

that

34:15

that his standard of living is completely inexplicable

34:17

the property, the houses this governor has are

34:20

in no way comparable to his

34:24

actual income. And on top of that, what

34:26

happened there? Governor Uss actually

34:29

officially owns a house in Sochi, and he decided

34:35

as governor to go to some

34:37

another pointless investment forum in

34:39

Sochi. Well, obviously he doesn’t want

34:41

to sit in Krasnoyarsk in February under a “black sky” regime

34:43

he wants to go to Sochi instead

34:45

hang out there, stop by his dacha, but

34:49

since it was an official business trip, they

34:51

actually had the nerve to

34:54

through public procurement

34:55

announce a tender and rent a room in

34:58

Sochi for 250,000 rubles, and the room in that

35:01

hotel is literally located

35:03

right here—you can see this room in the

35:05

Sochi hotel

35:06

it is literally 500 meters away

35:10

damn

35:11

from the governor’s house. And here, on the screen,

35:14

you can now see the map: the house and the hotel. What kind of

35:18

fantastic level of arrogance do you need

35:21

to have an official luxurious

35:25

fancy residence in Sochi, and still say, “You know,

35:27

I’m going to this investment forum, I’ll

35:30

stay in a hotel”

35:31

while you people here, coughing and wheezing,

35:33

walk the streets

35:35

pressing some rags to your face so that

35:39

you don’t cough your lungs out in a week—and you

35:42

please chip in for me so I can pay for

35:43

this hotel: 250,000 rubles.” They

35:46

are actually doing this

35:47

How much longer can this be tolerated? I—I don’t understand

35:50

one thing: how can even one person

35:52

vote for United Russia under these

35:54

conditions? How can even one person

35:57

vote for Putin, for Mishustin, for this whole

36:00

gang? It’s obvious they’re mocking us

36:01

because people keep

36:03

on voting, keep

36:05

voting for them. You could say that

36:07

pensioners have been brainwashed, they watch

36:10

television, they vote—but no,

36:11

not just pensioners. You’re all watching this

36:13

several tens of thousands of residents

36:15

of Krasnoyarsk will watch this video, so

36:17

let these several tens of thousands

36:19

people convince the remaining million residents

36:22

to vote against United Russia. Then

36:25

everything

36:27

will start changing fairly quickly. So, about

36:32

Prya-prya-prya—Videnny, I see

36:34

people are asking us about Videnny

36:35

there really is news, and something about

36:39

our Ruslan Shaveddinov. Let me remind you

36:42

that he is an employee of FBK (the Anti-Corruption Foundation) who was simply

36:44

kidnapped and taken to Novaya Zemlya (a remote Arctic archipelago) and

36:46

told that he would serve as a soldier, and

36:50

said that he had been conscripted into

36:53

the army. He was completely isolated, they do not allow

36:55

him to receive letters, they forbid him

36:58

from using a mobile phone

37:00

or any means of communication at all

37:01

despite the fact that even by their own logic he is

37:04

a soldier

37:05

he is not a prisoner; ordinary conscripts

37:07

have the right to write letters home, to their mothers

37:11

but he was not allowed to do that before, and now

37:12

as far as we understand now, we

37:14

filed a lawsuit, and then under video

37:17

camera supervision they handed him something like 30 or 50 letters

37:19

that they had simply not been giving him before, but

37:22

what is interesting about this court case is that in order

37:25

to make sure no one could get into this hearing

37:27

they are holding it not even simply in

37:29

Arkhangelsk—the court itself is located in

37:30

Arkhangelsk. If you want to sue

37:32

someone who is on Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago)

37:34

since Novaya Zemlya has bears and

37:37

no judges, you will have your case heard in a court in

37:39

Arkhangelsk, and everyone goes to court in

37:41

Arkhangelsk. But in his case

37:43

it was specifically stated that there would be

37:45

an off-site hearing held on Novaya

37:48

Zemlya—that is, by special plane the court

37:51

and the court secretary will fly for two and a half

37:54

hours to Novaya Zemlya so that something can happen there

37:56

and no one can get in. But for example, I

37:58

did not receive permission to visit Novaya Zemlya

38:01

even though I have a power of attorney to

38:02

I have a power of attorney for

38:04

representing his interests

38:06

and officially submitted a request to the FSB saying, give

38:10

me permission—I need to come and

38:12

visit him. Can you imagine? Interestingly,

38:13

they refused me, but nevertheless

38:16

one of our lawyers does have such permission

38:18

and so I asked him in Arkhangelsk

38:21

Alexei Molokoedov, one of FBK’s lawyers, to record

38:24

a short video

38:25

a minute and a half long, about what is happening there now

38:27

and what will happen next. Let’s watch.

38:29

Good afternoon. I am standing in front of the Arkhangelsk

38:31

Garrison Military Court, where what is probably

38:33

the strangest case of my life is being heard.

38:35

As part of this case, Ruslan and I

38:38

are trying to challenge the actions of

38:40

the military unit’s command in banning

38:42

the use of a mobile phone and

38:44

the sending and receiving of postal

38:46

correspondence. Since Ruslan was taken away

38:49

at the end of December, we have not once

38:50

received any letters from him. At the same time, the command

38:53

of the unit submitted to the case file

38:56

a log of outgoing correspondence from

38:58

the unit, according to which Ruslan regularly

39:01

tries to contact us.

39:02

According to Russian Post tracking data, our

39:05

letters are not reaching him either. He is allowed to call

39:07

only a couple of times from the unit commander’s phone

39:09

and, yes, on speakerphone in the

39:12

presence of officers. We petitioned

39:14

to ensure Ruslan’s appearance here in court

39:18

in Arkhangelsk, but his appearance was not

39:19

secured. Now

39:20

the judge has ordered this sort of procedural

39:23

anomaly: an off-site court hearing on

39:26

the territory of the military unit. Now I

39:28

must go there, to the territory of Novaya

39:31

Zemlya. Today I will fly there together with the judge

39:34

to Novaya Zemlya on a military aircraft, and later today

39:38

late in the evening there will be

39:40

a court hearing. This rush is explained by the fact

39:43

that we can return only

39:46

on that same plane early tomorrow morning

39:48

and there is no other way. In any case,

39:51

I am glad that this evening I will apparently

39:54

see Ruslan, and you can wish

39:58

me luck.

40:02

So, you saw what our lawyer recorded

40:06

in Arkhangelsk. I very much hope that

40:07

Alexei has in fact managed to get onto that

40:09

military flight. A military plane was specially sent there

40:12

and is flying to Novaya Zemlya

40:15

to take the judge and our lawyer there and

40:18

to hold an off-site hearing on

40:20

the territory of the military unit. In general, such a

40:22

thing simply cannot exist in principle

40:24

it is completely out of the question, it cannot

40:26

exist.

40:27

There is not the slightest reason for it. Obviously,

40:29

it would have been much easier to bring him

40:31

to Arkhangelsk, as is normally required

40:33

to be done. But no—specifically so that

40:36

you would learn nothing

40:38

and hear nothing, what is happening will take place

40:40

at a hearing specifically on Novaya Zemlya. But I

40:43

hope that Alexei Molokoedov will get there

40:45

and that no

40:47

bears eat him on the way, and that we will find out what is happening with

40:51

Ruslan.

40:51

I see that we have received several similar questions

40:55

about this. For example, Innokenty

40:57

asks:

40:57

“Regarding the FBK case, they have started

40:59

summoning ordinary people who previously donated

41:01

money to you. What do you think they are

41:03

trying to achieve?” Also, Sanya from Yaroslavl

41:06

asks: “Alexei, please comment on

41:08

Meduza’s report that FBK sponsors

41:10

are being called in for questioning.”

41:12

There is nothing new here. I hope that you, the

41:16

wonderful people who support

41:18

FBK and send us money

41:20

after all, everything exists on your money

41:21

will not be afraid of this nonsense. This

41:25

has been going on for quite a long time. The first time

41:28

it happened was in 2012 and 2013

41:30

when I basically announced that

41:32

our organization, which at the time

41:34

was simply called RosPil (an anti-corruption project), and my

41:35

work would be financed

41:38

simply by people’s donations, and we

41:40

received our first several million

41:41

rubles, after which the Kremlin said: no,

41:43

that can’t be, several million rubles?

41:46

Back then no one was raising money like that; now everyone

41:49

raises money this way, but crowdfunding was

41:50

still rare then, and of course the Kremlin said that they did not

41:53

believe it—there must be some shadowy oligarchs

41:56

who, through a large number of

41:58

People under their control are sending money.

42:00

to Navalny, and then they interrogated them afterward.

42:02

for the thirteenth year of my supposedly vile organization.

42:04

literally thousands of people. First of all, across the entire

42:06

were interrogated.

42:07

Second, they asked them to write

42:10

a statement saying that I had, essentially,

42:12

fraudulently tricked them out of

42:15

that money. To this day, I am still very

42:16

proud that not a single one of those people

42:20

wrote such a statement, and several years later

42:23

they had to specifically

42:25

hire a crook who transferred

42:27

some money and then immediately filed

42:29

a complaint saying that we had deceived him

42:32

so it would be easier for the police to deal with us there.

42:34

Here they are doing the same thing.

42:35

They are sending people a notice. You can

42:39

first of all, not go at all and ignore that

42:40

piece of paper — nothing will happen. You

42:42

can also go and simply say:

42:44

"Leave me alone. Under Article 51, I’m not going to tell you anything"

42:46

or you can

42:47

tell it exactly as it is: I

42:49

transferred 500, 200,

42:52

100,000 rubles to Navalny, fully within my rights (about 1,100 USD).

42:55

Just say it like it is. We have

42:57

nothing to hide, and as I understand it,

43:00

right now all these FSB goons (FSB, Russia’s security service) and various

43:04

police officers

43:06

— in other words, this whole gang of idlers and

43:08

crooks — somehow has to

43:09

report back to Putin and say what they’re

43:13

doing. They went around telling everyone

43:15

that supposedly we have some kind of

43:16

secret foreign funding, and now they need

43:20

to show results. So now they simply have to

43:23

try to build a case for their

43:26

theory that we are funded by some

43:28

single huge sponsor. But again, they

43:31

will come to many people, I think, and those

43:33

many people will say: yes, I really

43:36

did send 100 rubles (about 1 USD) because they

43:38

really did send 100 rubles,

43:39

because indeed the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation)

43:43

and our entire structure, our network of headquarters,

43:44

is funded through donations.

43:47

And I have never taken a single kopek of that

43:50

money, and there has always been a Chinese wall

43:53

between the money you

43:54

donate and any of my personal

43:56

funds, and they will not be able to prove anything.

43:59

And once again they will simply lie on television.

44:02

So don’t be afraid of anything, and keep

44:05

supporting us. 45,000 people are watching

44:07

us live right now.

44:09

I can see Vitaly Kolesnikov, taking advantage of

44:13

his official position, writing on

44:15

Twitter: let’s tell the viewers about

44:17

the Russian courts. My case with Vitaly

44:19

Kolesnikov ended this week — his

44:22

well, sort of ended temporarily; he will continue

44:24

to litigate. You probably remember his court case.

44:27

The Kolesnikov case was about the fact that

44:28

Vitalik is one of our video

44:31

operators and editors. When you watch my

44:34

videos on the main channel and all those

44:36

funny or not-so-funny things pop up on screen,

44:38

Vitalik is one of the people

44:39

who does that. And something unpleasant

44:41

happened to him: he had

44:43

an apartment.

44:44

Somewhere in the Moscow region, he

44:45

sold it, and instead of immediately putting the money

44:48

in the bank,

44:49

he made the "smart" decision to keep it at home

44:54

for two days, and at exactly that moment

44:56

they came to search his home and took from him

44:58

800,000 rubles (about 8,800 USD) that were lying

45:00

there somewhere, hidden under a pillow.

45:02

Vitalik has all the documents:

45:05

the apartment ownership certificate,

45:06

proof of the apartment sale, the purchase agreement,

45:09

a paper showing that he

45:11

received the money and from whom, and

45:13

Vitalik took all those papers and went to

45:16

court, and for several months he fought for a hearing,

45:18

and then — bang — the court said:

45:20

the investigator has deemed your money

45:22

material evidence, therefore

45:24

it doesn’t matter that your name

45:26

doesn’t appear there anywhere, that it isn’t linked to you, that you

45:28

have all the documents — still, your

45:30

money will not be returned to you. A perfect example

45:32

of how, in principle, from anyone in our

45:35

country, absolutely anything can be taken away.

45:37

If you are not Vitaly Kolesnikov but a person

45:39

who sold a factory or a large

45:41

apartment, or for any other reason

45:43

some crook and thief in the authorities

45:47

or the security services knows that you can have

45:48

a million, a billion, or, I don’t know,

45:51

300 rubles taken from you — they can just as easily

45:54

come, take it, and then

45:55

the judge will say: the investigator deemed it

45:58

material evidence. Let’s talk

46:02

about what I think was the most high-profile video

46:06

this week. It was that

46:09

meeting between Putin and a woman with a disability

46:12

who asked him a question about whether, on a pension,

46:15

it is possible to live on 10,000 rubles (about 110 USD). It is

46:17

very symbolic, and that is why I wrote it

46:19

on my cup. That

46:23

dialogue had enormous, enormous resonance,

46:25

and it has been very interesting to watch.

46:28

And you know what I thought? That the Kremlin

46:31

with this whole thing about

46:33

the Constitution is making one big,

46:36

important mistake that is quite

46:39

advantageous for us. They need

46:41

to lure people in so that they

46:43

come and vote for the amendments

46:45

that will give Putin more power.

46:48

But nobody wants to give Putin more power.

46:50

So how are they supposed to attract

46:54

people to this referendum? They say:

46:57

you know, you are all so poor,

47:00

as it turns out, so let’s put into the Constitution...

47:02

guarantees that this will be done for you

47:04

the indexation of pensions, and in any case the indexation of

47:06

wages, or that your salary must

47:08

be no lower than the subsistence minimum, they

47:11

thought

47:12

and probably still think that this is

47:13

a great idea, and people will come and

47:16

vote in order to be less

47:18

destitute and less poor, and people

47:20

really will come and vote, and

47:21

this deception will work. However,

47:24

things turned out differently, because what they

47:27

did was come out and tell the whole country that we

47:30

already knew, something everyone understands perfectly well, but

47:33

this was, in effect, said out loud for the first time:

47:34

the whole country is poor, and we need to put into the

47:37

Constitution something that

47:40

would make us less poor. And they expected

47:44

that everyone would start bowing and kissing

47:46

their feet, but people are saying: we’re not beggars.

47:50

So maybe let’s discuss why

47:52

we are poor. And in that sense, this woman—

47:55

watch the video, let’s watch it again—

47:56

let’s look: she quite energetically

48:00

and rather bluntly, boldly, is shouting something there,

48:04

then she approaches Putin and very clearly, not by accident,

48:06

asks: please explain, how are we supposed to live

48:10

on these 10,000 rubles (about 100 euros / 110 US dollars), and around

48:12

this, in fact, right now

48:14

the main national

48:17

debates are unfolding. And that is very good, because

48:19

there is still no answer to the question of why, after 20 years

48:22

of Putin’s rule, a disability pension is

48:24

10,000 rubles (about 100 euros / 110 US dollars), and how is anyone supposed to

48:26

live on that? Let’s take a look.

48:35

Here, you try living on 20,000, and then—

48:39

[fragment unclear]

48:48

[music]

48:49

as you know from... you know who. [fragment unclear]

48:53

go to the store and buy food with that money

48:57

that is not

48:59

...thousands... the minimum... [fragment unclear]

49:02

and then there are children... [fragment unclear]

49:05

I don’t understand about the children, so

49:07

right now this program... [fragment unclear]

49:12

then, of course, accounting... I

49:14

what’s really striking is that this still

49:16

turns into something that I quite

49:18

understand—it’s just not simply difficult, it’s

49:21

I try, but not very often... [fragment unclear]

49:24

used it, started to learn

49:32

but less than two sheets... I was mistaken [fragment unclear]

49:34

someone was being coddled

49:35

sitting here together with us, and not... [fragment unclear]

49:40

2,700... could you live on that amount?

49:44

thousand

49:45

why is that the ceiling? If you don’t want to, you didn’t pay... [fragment unclear]

49:47

of course, and the specificity of the fact that

49:50

to move on

49:54

what a revealing dialogue that answer was

49:57

So then, could you live on that? Well,

49:59

of course not. And this is being said to him

50:01

by a woman who quite clearly had not prepared for anything

50:04

at all. But notice:

50:06

she is not afraid, and she quite

50:08

clearly asks the question: could you? And what is your

50:10

salary? “18,000,” the woman says to him, and

50:13

Putin says: yes, of course mine is higher

50:15

but there are salaries that are even higher. She

50:17

says, of course, you can’t live on that

50:19

And this is very important. Putin, of course,

50:22

is not as stupid as Medvedev (former Russian president and prime minister); he does not

50:24

say to this woman, “You know, ma’am,”

50:27

“3,800... because there’s no money. Well, in general, you

50:29

hang in there, there’s no money right now”

50:31

So instead, in a quiet, more

50:34

sympathetic voice, without idiotic smiles,

50:36

he says: yes, it’s impossible to live on that.

50:38

Yes, it’s impossible to live on that, and all of this

50:40

started being discussed because, because

50:43

the Kremlin suddenly decided to discuss it and

50:46

decided it was a good idea. Excellent—if

50:49

they want to discuss wages,

50:51

this is exactly the right time for it. All this

50:54

this

50:55

fuss around the Constitution and their grand lie

50:59

that something needs to be written into the Constitution

51:01

and then life will get easier—that’s a great topic

51:04

for discussion. Here they are luring pensioners

51:06

with the promise that, come on, let us have

51:09

a minimum wage that will be no

51:12

lower than the subsistence minimum. And then

51:15

journalists ask Peskov (Putin’s press secretary) today:

51:17

all right, the subsistence minimum—

51:19

but the subsistence minimum is, like,

51:22

10,000 rubles (about 100 euros / 110 US dollars). Can you live on that subsistence

51:25

minimum, our dear mustachioed Peskov? And now

51:27

Peskov says, you know, when he is

51:30

asked that question, “that question no longer

51:32

falls within my remit.”

51:34

“I will not answer it. This question

51:35

is rather rhetorical.” No, it is not

51:38

rhetorical. Twenty-two percent of our citizens

51:42

live below the poverty line; for them this is

51:44

absolutely not a rhetorical question.

51:45

They earn less than

51:49

the minimum wage.

51:51

This is not a rhetorical question. And it is

51:54

good that this is happening, even in such a

51:56

spontaneous way. These are exactly the kind of

51:58

debates that need to be forced onto all these people.

52:01

It is very interesting that all sorts of

52:06

show-business figures—they need

52:10

love, of course. What the authorities need most

52:12

is, of course, love. The authorities do not need

52:13

money, but they do seem to need

52:15

popular affection, and therefore

52:18

once in a while, every many years, they

52:21

end up saying something truthful.

52:23

And into these debates about poverty stepped

52:26

the well-known TV host Yakubovich,

52:29

who caused quite a mini-scandal because

52:33

he said a fairly simple thing,

52:35

addressing the labor minister, something like:

52:38

I have 23,000 rubles (about 230 euros / 250 US dollars), which is actually a very large

52:40

pension, by the way. How am I supposed to live on

52:42

that—on these 23,000? Maybe the labor minister

52:45

could try living on it—and then the labor minister...

52:47

He says something in response, and as for persuading Yakubovich...

52:49

to try it himself, and then, basically, "go to hell"...

52:51

"to hell with you, live on my pension, that's all."

52:53

People applauded Yakubovich, forgetting, by the way,

52:56

unfortunately, that one of the

52:58

reasons why Yakubovich and everyone else

53:00

Yakubovich — 23,000

53:02

while everyone else gets much less — that's one

53:05

of the reasons, and Yakubovich himself, in fact,

53:07

because he recorded videos like this

53:09

quite recently. Still, let's

53:11

spitefully remind one another of them. I

53:15

can put it this way: there is no alternative. But who

53:18

can you place beside him? Put any public figure next to him and

53:20

say: either this one or that one — and they

53:23

ought to be of equal weight, because

53:26

unfortunately, there is no equally significant figure.

53:28

By the way, I don't feel any urge to raise my

53:31

hands and applaud the fact that he agreed,

53:35

because the most important thing, in my view,

53:36

is finally to bring this country to

53:38

stability. This turbulence is beginning

53:42

to affect people's mental state, people who

53:44

are having a hard time — no one can endure it anymore.

53:46

No one understands what is happening. He is at least

53:49

some kind of guarantee that perhaps after

53:51

some time there will be no more of this

53:53

unstable situation. So I, of course,

53:56

that's exactly what I support, and

53:59

glory...

54:01

There is no other alternative, there isn't.

54:06

So, Leonid Arkadyevich, you said all

54:09

these things, and you understood that you were speaking in

54:11

the language of propaganda: there is no other

54:13

alternative, we need stability,

54:15

Putin — Putin provided stability, and

54:17

of course you have huge income from

54:21

Channel One (Russia's main state TV channel), but still, with

54:23

your stable pension, a very high one of

54:25

23,000 rubles (about $250–300 at the time), here you are now sitting and

54:29

and in his latest interview comment,

54:32

on this subject, I read that Yakubovich

54:33

is now literally saying that soon

54:35

people are still silent for now, but public unrest

54:38

and even revolution could happen because of pensions

54:40

like these. You see how it turned out: it seemed

54:43

they kept providing, providing

54:45

stability, and it seemed to us there was no

54:46

alternative. Sure, they stole everything, but still

54:48

there was no other figure of comparable scale.

54:51

And in the end, what did we arrive at? That

54:55

the pension is tiny, and a revolution will happen

54:57

not because of some villains,

55:00

but because precisely those who were supposed to provide

55:03

that stability simply drove the people

55:06

into poverty — and a revolution will happen.

55:08

And it will happen.

55:09

Because people live, they endure,

55:13

but they still cannot endure

55:14

forever. Sooner or later, all of this

55:17

will collapse and go completely to pieces, and our

55:19

Vladimir Vladimirovich, what can he

55:21

say to that? Well, we saw how he

55:24

was telling a woman, yes, yes, yes, "I

55:27

really sympathize with you," but in some more official format

55:30

he said that this

55:33

week, for the 15th time, he said it — for the 15th time, I

55:37

on my previous program, on this

55:40

topic, was sneering and joking about it.

55:42

It seemed as if at some closed-door dinner

55:44

he wouldn't say anything like that again, because

55:46

not only me — the whole country is laughing at

55:48

this. It had been said 14 times, but he did

55:50

it a 15th time. Let's listen. Therefore,

55:53

I believe that the current composition

55:57

of the government has absolutely no one with even a single

55:59

minute to waste getting up to speed — that's exactly what

56:01

they have no right to do.

56:03

He again said that there isn't a single

56:07

minute to waste, and this is absolutely,

56:09

completely, utterly unbelievable. Not

56:12

to mention that they're getting used to it. An update for you in

56:16

messages from our lawyer, who

56:17

is in Arkhangelsk.

56:19

Alexei Molokoedov reports that apparently

56:22

he is at the airport. Let's — I haven't

56:24

watched this video myself — let's listen. Hi everyone,

56:26

Hi, I'm currently standing at Talagi Airport

56:29

in Arkhangelsk, and in half an hour — that is, at 7:30 —

56:33

I'm supposed to meet here with the judge.

56:35

Obviously, the departure will be even later, and given

56:39

the estimated flight time to

56:41

Novaya Zemlya, which is a little over two

56:44

hours, the court hearing itself can only

56:47

be held sometime after midnight.

56:50

Under these circumstances, I don't really understand

56:53

how a sleep-deprived Ruslan will tomorrow

56:56

defend the Arctic frontier of our motherland

56:58

from northern invaders. Well, there you

57:05

have it, that update. I still hope

57:07

that our lawyer really will end up on

57:10

that remarkable military plane that

57:12

will take him to the closed, secret nighttime

57:15

court on Novaya Zemlya, on the territory of a military

57:18

unit, and so on.

57:19

Good Lord, I hope Molokoedov ultimately

57:22

makes it there, and that tomorrow we won't learn that he

57:24

was brought there only to

57:26

get lost and be drafted into the army too, in exchange

57:29

for an important legal case — we don't even know.

57:31

Does Molokoedov have a deferment from service or not?

57:33

They simply won't let him leave Novaya

57:35

Zemlya afterward, and that's how they'll gradually lure everyone

57:37

in — all our lawyers will go there

57:39

to litigate and be transported there, and then

57:41

gradually a whole unit will be assembled there

57:44

out of FBK staff. So, Pasha Bulakhov

57:48

asks me: if I transferred 500

57:50

rubles while being in America, would that

57:53

count as foreign interference? Pasha,

57:55

if you are a Russian citizen and you have

57:57

an account in a Russian bank, it doesn't matter where you

58:00

are located — as a Russian citizen, you have

58:02

the right, every right,

58:04

to donate to any Russian organization.

58:08

We would be very glad if you did that.

58:10

If you also have an account in a Russian bank,

58:12

if you try to do it through

58:14

if it's a foreign bank, then unfortunately we won't be able to

58:17

accept that money, because, well,

58:20

because we simply won't be able to

58:22

be sure that you are a Russian citizen.

58:24

But if you have a Russian passport, you

58:26

have every full right to

58:29

donate to whomever you want. Vovka,

58:32

they're asking about some strange developments in

58:34

the Golunov case: one person is accusing, another is

58:35

denying the accusations. I'm stocking up on popcorn.

58:37

In the Golunov case, indeed, one of the

58:39

police officers has testified. We

58:41

understood all along that the police officers

58:44

who planted drugs on Golunov

58:46

were acting on orders from their superiors,

58:49

the police leadership, and the police leadership

58:51

received instructions from the FSB (Russia's security service), from people in

58:54

the Moscow FSB directorate. And now, at

58:56

least, the first link in the chain has started

58:58

to unravel, and

59:00

the operative planted those drugs

59:02

because his boss told him to.

59:05

"Plant them." And now they're telling him, basically,

59:07

"You'll get five or ten—well, whatever—three years,

59:11

however many, they'll lock you up. So

59:13

you have to keep quiet." Well, naturally, he

59:15

sees that no one is going to save him.

59:16

The bosses will wriggle out of it, the FSB people will wriggle out of it,

59:19

so he testified and said, yes, I was

59:21

told to plant the drugs.

59:22

Now it's interesting to see when this reaches a higher

59:24

level, when the corrupt police officers

59:27

will have to admit

59:28

that their sources told them

59:30

to plant the drugs. Will there be

59:33

a split at that point, and will they give us

59:35

testimony? 50,000 people

59:38

are watching us live. We've been on air for almost

59:41

an hour already, and the main topic

59:45

of the day is this:

59:47

although in fact this has been discussed since

59:50

the beginning of the year: the Kremlin has finally started

59:53

bringing in some super-

59:56

famous people for its various

59:59

political projects, and Sergei Shnurov

1:00:02

has announced that he is joining the Party of Growth,

1:00:04

and everyone is discussing, discussing what

1:00:07

this means. What does it mean? It

1:00:09

means they are afraid

1:00:14

of Smart Voting. They are afraid that

1:00:18

in the State Duma and in the regional

1:00:21

parliaments this coming September

1:00:24

there will appear the kind of people who, in particular,

1:00:27

have already appeared in the Moscow parliament. That's why

1:00:29

—I'll explain later—they are building

1:00:32

a setup so that United Russia

1:00:35

gets more votes, and for that it needs

1:00:38

to create many, many satellite parties.

1:00:40

But first, let's sort of divide the question into two

1:00:42

parts. The question is: what kind of depu-

1:00:44

ties do they not want? They don't want any deputies at all—they

1:00:47

want their own mechanism.

1:00:48

That's why the Kremlin started

1:00:50

frantically trying to stage something. Because, you see,

1:00:53

when the chair of the Moscow

1:00:55

City Court, that villainous auntie I

1:00:58

have often talked about,

1:00:59

on this program, she

1:01:01

comes to the Moscow City Duma, and those deputies

1:01:03

whom you elected, whom we elected with the help

1:01:06

of Smart Voting, they simply

1:01:08

give her a real grilling. Let's

1:01:11

listen again to Deputy Sheremetyev.

1:01:12

I just love

1:01:14

the way he speaks every time when

1:01:16

Yegorova—who, in fact,

1:01:17

everyone used to be afraid of; I showed

1:01:19

a video here once of how they were kissing

1:01:21

her hand—all the United Russia deputies. She

1:01:23

sits there, and the United Russia people come up one by one

1:01:26

to kiss her hand. And then suddenly

1:01:28

people were elected who have absolutely no desire

1:01:31

to kiss anyone's hand. Let's listen. Well,

1:01:33

Deputy Sheremetyev, Alexander. The point is

1:01:38

that under your careful leadership

1:01:40

Moscow justice has turned into

1:01:43

a punitive system.

1:01:44

I am already, in essence, speaking plainly here, so I won't

1:01:47

beat around the bush: you must

1:01:50

resign. You see, the only reason

1:02:06

United Russia still has a shaky

1:02:09

but existing majority is what helps her, helps

1:02:12

save her. It's only thanks to that chair's

1:02:14

position as head of the Moscow City Court.

1:02:15

Otherwise, she would simply have been torn apart there.

1:02:17

But the United Russia members are just blocking all the very

1:02:20

proper questions that are being asked

1:02:22

to Yegorova. And in particular, Stupin did a great

1:02:25

job. Let's first listen to what

1:02:27

question he asked Yegorova, to which

1:02:29

the United Russia member Shaposhnikov allowed her not

1:02:31

to answer. Please, Deputy Stupin. Olga

1:02:35

Alexandrovna, civil activist

1:02:36

Konstantin Kotov was sentenced by Moscow courts

1:02:38

to four years

1:02:40

of actual imprisonment under Article

1:02:42

212.1, for repeated violations of the rules

1:02:44

for holding public events. Do you consider

1:02:46

it lawful to impose a real

1:02:48

prison sentence for taking part in

1:02:50

peaceful demonstrations and

1:02:52

marches, the right to which is guaranteed

1:02:54

to us by Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian

1:02:56

Federation?

1:02:57

This question is not related to the agenda;

1:03:00

it does not have to be answered.

1:03:04

That was interesting, because

1:03:07

in that situation Shaposhnikov, speaking as

1:03:09

he did, can shut a deputy up and say,

1:03:11

"You don't have to answer his question." But then

1:03:13

our deputy, a normal opposition

1:03:15

deputy, comes to the podium. Let's hear what

1:03:18

he says: a situation in which

1:03:21

acquittals are handed down

1:03:22

by professional judges in less than one

1:03:25

percent of cases, while by juries in 50

1:03:27

percent of cases—in Moscow, I'm talking about now—is

1:03:30

an abnormal situation, accordingly.

1:03:33

to talk about someone admitting guilt

1:03:36

75 percent—well, sure, someone probably does admit it

1:03:39

but in the Network case (a Russian anti-extremism case), we can see how

1:03:42

those admissions of guilt

1:03:44

are obtained—and obtained through torture

1:03:48

you understand? Just read the case materials

1:03:51

about how people’s teeth were crumbling, how

1:03:54

a sock was shoved into their mouths—read it

1:03:57

you understand? Those kinds of

1:04:00

confessions are worthless

1:04:02

those responsible absolutely must be put on trial, even if not yet

1:04:04

the people from whom these statements were extracted, you understand

1:04:06

and the time will come when they will be convicted, so

1:04:11

I ask that you stop referring to these 75

1:04:14

percent of confessions; we

1:04:17

have seen perfectly well, especially in the

1:04:19

Network case, how they obtain them. Thank you.

1:04:23

Stupin is the deputy’s last name, by the way, from

1:04:26

the east—elected there, where it seemed that in eastern

1:04:28

Moscow

1:04:28

it seemed that absolutely no

1:04:30

opposition candidate could ever get through, but nevertheless

1:04:32

he got through, and he tells it like it is

1:04:34

he’s absolutely right—they’re not just

1:04:36

going after Shnur (Sergey Shnurov, Russian musician); they’ll pay whatever

1:04:39

money to whoever they need, just to keep people like this

1:04:43

from getting in, just so there won’t be

1:04:44

deputies who, well, who come down

1:04:48

to the people’s level, come down

1:04:50

to the level of ordinary people—that’s the wrong way to put it, wrong

1:04:52

expression

1:04:53

they connect with the people. So today I

1:04:55

just decided to take a look—I thought, where are the deputies now?

1:04:57

I’m going to talk about it on the program

1:04:59

and compare United Russia members and opposition politicians

1:05:01

what these opposition politicians are actually doing

1:05:03

I go on Instagram—Teplova, Inga, what’s going on with her?

1:05:05

she’s got photos there—they’ve basically taken over

1:05:08

and are holding the builder’s vehicles hostage, well

1:05:10

I mean, these people are genuinely doing the work of deputies

1:05:14

not afraid to sit there all night because in

1:05:17

somewhere in her district, within her constituency

1:05:20

on land meant for a children’s facility, they allocated

1:05:22

the land to some developer—sure, allocated the land

1:05:26

supposedly for the construction of

1:05:27

a kindergarten, and of course on that land

1:05:30

they’re building some huge

1:05:32

massive elite apartment building. She sits there all night

1:05:36

together with everyone else, sitting in a car

1:05:38

keeping watch. Of course they’re afraid of deputies like that

1:05:39

I wrote to Inga and asked her

1:05:42

to record a short comment for our program

1:05:44

a brief comment about what

1:05:46

is happening, just so that

1:05:47

well, so that once again we could see the kind of

1:05:49

deputies they’re afraid of, and what great

1:05:51

deputies you and I elect with the help of

1:05:53

Smart Voting (an opposition tactical voting strategy). Meanwhile

1:05:55

today in Moscow—well

1:05:58

now in our fight against infill development

1:06:03

it’s not only residents who are being beaten, but

1:06:06

even deputies of the Moscow City

1:06:07

today at Michurinsky 30B, defending

1:06:11

the residents, I

1:06:13

and a deputy of the Moscow City Duma

1:06:15

Yevgeny Super

1:06:17

people are fighting against infill development

1:06:21

people have the right to do that—why aren’t they being

1:06:24

heard by officials? Yes, now we have

1:06:27

deputies who defend people, who

1:06:30

stand with the people, and it doesn’t matter if they beat us

1:06:33

throw us to the ground, drag us around—we will stay with

1:06:36

the residents, we will defend them anyway

1:06:39

and

1:06:40

try to change the situation. Everything that

1:06:43

happened today happened right

1:06:47

before the eyes of our valiant police, the Internal Affairs Department

1:06:51

they saw everything perfectly well, heard our

1:06:54

calls and appeals to stop these

1:06:57

violations, to stop this

1:07:00

beating, when construction vehicles drive

1:07:03

into people. Several people

1:07:05

have been hospitalized, one with serious injuries

1:07:08

with a suspected spinal injury

1:07:10

some kind of lawlessness is happening

1:07:12

I have no other words for it. At least now

1:07:19

deputies have started to look like normal

1:07:21

people. You look at this deputy

1:07:22

and you understand—she’s just like everyone else, lives in the

1:07:24

building next door. People got together there

1:07:26

nominated her and elected her as a deputy, and

1:07:28

now as a deputy she is exactly the same as

1:07:30

before, sitting through the night together with everyone else in

1:07:32

a car in order to block

1:07:34

construction equipment that, instead of

1:07:36

a kindergarten, wants to build an elite

1:07:38

apartment building. Of course they hate deputies like that

1:07:41

and as for explaining what kind of

1:07:44

deputies they are—damn, of course I also

1:07:46

want to say something about the wonderful deputy

1:07:48

Bondarenko, a frequent guest here

1:07:51

a really great, cheerful guy who

1:07:53

just today—today was really

1:07:57

just

1:07:57

what you’d call absolutely on fire in his

1:08:00

city duma—well, no, in the Saratov

1:08:03

Saratov Regional Duma. Sorry.

1:08:04

The United Russia members decided to do

1:08:07

the same thing they actually did

1:08:08

with the Moscow deputies

1:08:10

changes to the rules under which they

1:08:12

simply won’t be able to say anything—they

1:08:14

are trying to shut him up, and today

1:08:17

Deputy Bondarenko won a victory over

1:08:20

all the United Russia deputies—he didn’t let them

1:08:22

adopt those rules. Let’s take a look

1:08:24

at what happened. Friends, hello everyone, my name

1:08:27

is Nikolai Bondarenko. This whole saga with

1:08:30

United Russia’s attempt to adopt a new

1:08:32

set of rules that would

1:08:33

deprive us, the Communist deputies in the Saratov

1:08:35

Regional Duma, of virtually all

1:08:37

powers, ban us from speaking, and

1:08:39

simply not give us the chance to so much as

1:08:41

open our mouths—this whole story has reached

1:08:44

its logical conclusion. We brought this issue

1:08:46

to the Saratov Regional Duma. I don’t

1:08:48

know—they must have thought that we would

1:08:50

to put up with being slapped in the face

1:08:53

and turn the other cheek—but no way,

1:08:56

that’s not going to work. Every attempt to shut us

1:08:58

up will be met

1:09:00

with the utmost fury and

1:09:03

outrage on our part. Igor, that

1:09:05

case was, of course, no exception.

1:09:24

Well, hello everyone.

1:09:33

So, they basically wouldn’t let us through—look at the colleagues

1:09:38

deputies and all that. We’ll see, let’s see

1:09:43

how much pressure you can put on

1:09:47

the rules. In April, they brought banners and a megaphone

1:09:52

and blocked the podium, but that’s exactly what

1:09:54

created an atmosphere in which

1:09:57

even the United Russia members (the ruling party) simply realized that

1:10:00

they couldn’t vote like that, because

1:10:03

their opponents—in this case,

1:10:05

the Communists—were not going to sit quietly like

1:10:07

they used to.

1:10:08

There’s the formal position: they sit quietly, and their

1:10:10

votes get taken away—but they don’t even need that, because

1:10:12

they stay silent. But these people can’t be silenced, and so

1:10:14

we need to elect more deputies like that, to make sure

1:10:16

they become the majority.

1:10:18

And that is exactly what United Russia is terribly afraid of. 52

1:10:23

thousand people are watching us live,

1:10:25

and here’s the explanation. Basically,

1:10:27

the question is: why would Sergei Shnurov

1:10:30

get in the way of people like Bondarenko and others

1:10:33

being elected? Well, because,

1:10:35

what’s so bad about Sergei Shnurov?

1:10:37

Nothing bad. I’m not blaming Sergei Shnurov.

1:10:39

At the beginning of the program, I said that he

1:10:41

supported the residents of Krasnoyarsk. We’ll judge

1:10:44

Sergei Shnurov by his actions. It’s just—

1:10:46

look, this isn’t so easy to explain

1:10:50

to a broad audience, but each of us needs to

1:10:52

understand it.

1:10:53

I may even record a video for the main

1:10:55

channel explaining why the Kremlin is

1:10:56

doing this now. It’s very important for them to

1:10:59

register several small

1:11:02

parties so that those parties

1:11:04

get 3–4 percent each. Why? The State Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament)

1:11:10

is formed from single-member districts, where

1:11:12

you vote for a candidate by name, and from party

1:11:14

lists. Party lists are basically

1:11:16

like a pie—imagine a pizza

1:11:18

that gets divided up: this slice goes to the Communists,

1:11:21

this one to United Russia, this one to the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia), and this one

1:11:25

to some small-time guys. But

1:11:27

there’s a 5 percent threshold. So this

1:11:29

fairly significant part of the pizza

1:11:32

gets into the State Duma only if

1:11:36

it cleared that 5 percent mark.

1:11:37

And what happens to all the other votes?

1:11:39

They get redistributed in such a way that

1:11:42

most of them go

1:11:44

to the winner—and the winning party, the one that

1:11:47

gets the most votes, as expected,

1:11:49

will be United Russia.

1:11:51

It’s fairly complicated math, I repeat.

1:11:53

Maybe I’ll describe it

1:11:55

in a separate video, but overall everyone should understand that

1:11:58

it benefits United Russia if there are lots of

1:12:01

unallocated votes. If there are 10

1:12:04

parties that each get 4 percent,

1:12:07

that’s an ideal situation for them, because

1:12:10

then as much as 40 percent of the seats will be

1:12:12

distributed in such a way that

1:12:14

United Russia gets the biggest share of them.

1:12:17

That’s why they now need to create

1:12:19

various parties that we’ll be talking about,

1:12:22

and then we’ll go and vote for

1:12:25

them. It works in practice too:

1:12:27

there seem to be normal guys there, and Shnurov too,

1:12:30

not some controlled puppet, supposedly—and yet

1:12:32

several such parties have already appeared.

1:12:35

A special controlled party has even been created

1:12:36

for those anti-Putin

1:12:40

patriots. That party is headed by

1:12:42

Zakhar Prilepin.

1:12:43

Let’s watch a few seconds—here

1:12:45

he is talking about this movement, “For Truth.”

1:12:48

It seeks power, strives for power,

1:12:50

has a right to power. I’ll even venture to say that

1:12:53

we are better than the authorities,

1:12:54

brighter than the authorities, angrier than the authorities, kinder

1:12:57

than the authorities—we’re like that.

1:12:59

Thank you. All right.

1:13:09

So there you have it: a party that is better

1:13:12

than the authorities, headed by Zakhar

1:13:14

Prilepin. He’s a decent enough person, a writer; I’ve

1:13:18

known him for many years, and at one point I even

1:13:20

worked with him on an organization.

1:13:22

Recently, by the way, I even called him

1:13:25

because he sits on the public council

1:13:27

under the Ministry of Defense, and I asked him to somehow

1:13:29

help with Svidetelny (unclear name) so that at least a letter

1:13:31

could start being passed along.

1:13:32

He wasn’t able to help—or maybe

1:13:34

I don’t know, I won’t lie, maybe he didn’t even try

1:13:36

to help, or maybe nothing came of it—but

1:13:38

in any case, this kind of party is being created:

1:13:40

a patriotic one. Obviously it won’t get 5 percent,

1:13:41

but whatever it does get

1:13:44

will help United Russia slightly increase

1:13:47

its share. Then another party was created,

1:13:50

called Direct Democracy, and the members of this

1:13:52

party will mess with the heads of people who

1:13:54

spend their time online. They say,

1:13:56

we’re the party of the internet.

1:13:57

It’s headed by the guy who made the game

1:13:59

*World of Tanks*, which millions of people play.

1:14:03

It’s probably a good game—I haven’t played it myself—but

1:14:06

they’ll try to lure those

1:14:08

people in too and pick up some

1:14:10

votes. Obviously, 5 percent is

1:14:13

far too much—they won’t get that—but once again

1:14:16

they’ll increase the number of mandates that

1:14:20

will be distributed mostly in favor of

1:14:22

United Russia. And today we saw

1:14:26

Sergei Shnurov, who for some reason joined

1:14:30

the Party of Growth. What is the Party of Growth? Well,

1:14:33

the thing the Party of Growth is best known for,

1:14:35

is that famous video. And

1:14:37

Titov—that’s the very man

1:14:39

who heads the Party of Growth, and his

1:14:43

the absolutely legendary video where he

1:14:45

flew over Moscow on a chair. Let's

1:14:47

remember that. Hello,

1:14:49

I am addressing you, Muscovites, people who are

1:14:54

active, independent,

1:14:56

professional,

1:14:59

with a proposal to become municipal

1:15:02

deputies. After all, the September 10 election has only

1:15:07

just ended, and the next one is already coming, but

1:15:10

this is a municipal election, which means it is also

1:15:13

the most important one. Almost 3,000 people are writing

1:15:17

and watching us live, and the question is:

1:15:20

can these hellish freaks

1:15:22

get even anything at all — what, five

1:15:24

percent, at least 2 or 3 percent? Of course

1:15:26

not. Could Sergei Shnurov — well, people may feel

1:15:30

differently about him, but at

1:15:32

the very least he is definitely not the kind of person

1:15:35

who dreams of joining some party

1:15:36

and getting 2 percent along with it. No

1:15:39

way. Could he have simply joined it

1:15:40

just like that? Of course not. Of course, this

1:15:45

strange spectacle that we saw, where

1:15:47

he shows up at the Party of Growth meeting,

1:15:49

they introduce him there — clearly,

1:15:51

Shnurov was paid a lot, a lot — in money and

1:15:55

maybe some medals too, I don't know what they could

1:15:57

have promised him. It's unlikely he wants to be the host of a

1:15:59

show on Channel One like Ksenia Sobchak.

1:16:01

I think Shnurov simply took the money

1:16:03

and after some time will release a song

1:16:06

about how he fooled everyone, how they are all

1:16:08

idiots, while he made 10 million

1:16:10

dollars or 20 million dollars. Let's

1:16:12

take a look, after all, at this strange

1:16:14

little scene at the political council where Shnurov says:

1:16:16

"I'll be useful to you."

1:16:43

The life of my

1:16:44

has taken such a strange turn that, in

1:16:48

my view, in the form of the Party of Growth, I

1:16:51

think I can be useful to you.

1:16:53

Absolutely, at the very least, down below

1:16:55

I can add bright colors, call things by their names, pay

1:17:01

the fines — with me it will clearly be

1:17:05

more fun. The general idea is that it will clearly be

1:17:11

more entertaining here: over there are the gloomy patriots, while

1:17:14

here there are some ecologists — they've already made

1:17:17

a fake environmental party,

1:17:18

where they brought in that internet artist Vasya

1:17:21

Lozhkin, who is supposed to attract

1:17:23

attention to these underground ecologists. And then

1:17:25

there's this cheerful Shnur (Shnurov), who will

1:17:27

curse somebody out and somehow make five

1:17:30

percent. This setup, too, most likely

1:17:32

won't get there. And if the authorities see

1:17:34

that they are crossing the five-percent

1:17:36

threshold,

1:17:36

then of course they will stop them by some

1:17:38

methods — and we know what kind of methods those are —

1:17:40

so that

1:17:41

Shnurov, too, pulls all of us by about 4

1:17:44

percent, 4.5 percent, and

1:17:46

just does a little work for United

1:17:49

Russia. How should we feel about this? Should we

1:17:52

denounce Sergei Shnurov, call him all sorts of

1:17:54

names? Well, no, there is no reason yet

1:17:56

to denounce him. A person should be judged by deeds.

1:17:59

So far, Sergei Shnurov...

1:18:01

Well, we should probably say: Sergei,

1:18:04

what are you doing in the company of the Party of Growth and

1:18:07

Titov? That's rather strange.

1:18:10

What we can denounce Shnurov for is that he

1:18:12

really did engage in outright

1:18:14

political prostitution when

1:18:18

he worked for Sobyanin's campaign, and when

1:18:20

Sobyanin was buying up absolutely every celebrity,

1:18:22

Shnurov sold out too and recorded

1:18:24

some absolutely disgusting,

1:18:25

vile clips. Let's remember that too,

1:18:27

and for that, Shnurov of course should be

1:18:29

condemned.

1:18:45

[music]

1:18:53

[music]

1:18:57

It's nauseating, absolutely — a song and unquestionably

1:19:00

a shameful stain on Shnurov's biography. Well,

1:19:02

the man simply couldn't resist. Here, for the sake of

1:19:05

fairness, it should be recalled that in this

1:19:08

campaign even Semyon

1:19:10

Slepakov took part, who by all appearances is a very

1:19:11

good person and does good

1:19:13

things, but he couldn't resist the money either. And so

1:19:15

Shnurov recorded this thing, and Slepakov

1:19:18

then answered him with his own song, and all of it

1:19:20

worked together for Sobyanin. It was all

1:19:23

quite revolting. All of it was

1:19:25

paid for with money stolen from us.

1:19:27

Well, fine, that happened. We understand that

1:19:29

Shnurov is music, musicians sing

1:19:32

for money, including for all sorts of

1:19:34

unpleasant people. But in principle, he did

1:19:37

stand up for the residents of Krasnoyarsk,

1:19:39

and maybe tomorrow he will say something

1:19:42

about political prisoners — that's good too.

1:19:43

That is a kind of permitted topic.

1:19:45

And in the near future, in fact, you and I will

1:19:48

see a whole parade of rather

1:19:51

unexpected people, and people whom we

1:19:55

might consider decent, or at least not

1:19:57

completely awful, who say

1:19:59

some normal things and who, within the

1:20:02

zone of permitted criticism — permitted

1:20:04

criticism means that you can say that

1:20:05

things in the country are bad, and

1:20:07

you can also say, in the harshest form,

1:20:10

that you support political prisoners,

1:20:11

speak in their defense — that is a permitted topic,

1:20:14

an important topic.

1:20:15

Very well, let them speak out at least

1:20:17

within the bounds of this permitted space. For example, they are

1:20:19

not allowed to speak in favor of what

1:20:22

those who are now

1:20:24

political prisoners stood for. For example, you cannot

1:20:26

advocate for free elections, you cannot

1:20:28

speak up for the reasons why people in the

1:20:31

Moscow Case (the criminal prosecutions following the 2019 Moscow protests) took to the streets.

1:20:33

But defending them is apparently allowed, and I think

1:20:36

this whole crowd will defend them,

1:20:38

say generally good things, and

1:20:41

All of this will be aimed at making sure that you and I

1:20:43

spend less time, so to speak, thinking about Smart Voting

1:20:46

and how to defeat United Russia

1:20:49

(the ruling pro-Kremlin party), how to make sure United Russia

1:20:50

is gone, and more time thinking, well,

1:20:52

Shnurov seems to be saying sensible things,

1:20:54

he’s eccentric, let’s vote for Shnurov—and then

1:20:56

United Russia says: these guys should

1:20:58

go ahead, vote.

1:20:59

He’ll get 4 percent, and all those votes

1:21:02

will end up benefiting us, because that’s how they

1:21:05

get redistributed. And of course this

1:21:09

is not a simple setup—it’s hard to explain

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to people that they need to vote

1:21:15

differently somehow. But still, let’s see.

1:21:17

Maybe he’ll say some very good things.

1:21:19

Maybe tomorrow the Party of Growth

1:21:23

will put some good people on its list—well,

1:21:25

I’m being a little ironic here

1:21:28

on this subject, because of course it won’t.

1:21:29

It’s an utterly corrupt, sellout party, but

1:21:32

let’s not condemn Shnurov and everyone else

1:21:35

ahead of time. It’s just that we

1:21:37

must not let ourselves be fooled.

1:21:41

That’s all. And we need to understand ourselves, and

1:21:45

explain to others why all this is being done.

1:21:48

This whole scheme, by the way—Meduza

1:21:51

wrote about it on January 10, at the beginning of this

1:21:55

year. They published a very direct article

1:21:58

saying that the Kremlin is creating pro-Kremlin

1:22:01

parties, and among the leaders they wanted to see

1:22:03

Shnurov. I’m sure we’ll expose this, of course.

1:22:05

Of course they won’t succeed. A new

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Shnur, Vanya—somehow they bought them, they’ll buy

1:22:10

many more different people. I’m expecting, of course,

1:22:12

some kind of women’s party, and there will be

1:22:14

some respectable women there speaking up for women’s

1:22:17

rights with a feminist agenda.

1:22:18

There will definitely also be some kind of

1:22:20

human rights party, one hundred percent—you’ll see.

1:22:23

They’ll buy off someone from among those who

1:22:24

were involved in the Moscow Case (the prosecutions tied to the 2019 Moscow protests), or

1:22:26

some supposed victim—something along those lines.

1:22:28

Maybe their parents, or someone from each group.

1:22:31

Look—politicians.

1:22:32

Let’s vote for them, because, well,

1:22:34

sure, they’re basically puppet parties, but still,

1:22:36

they do seem like politicians. That’s the kind of

1:22:38

cynical trick that will one hundred percent

1:22:40

definitely be used, I think.

1:22:42

There will also be some environmentalists popping up,

1:22:44

some other pseudo-opposition figures

1:22:46

will appear too, absolutely, because

1:22:48

the Kremlin needs lots of parties.

1:22:49

It will be interesting to watch. These

1:22:54

people—Shnurov and all the others—need to be

1:22:56

used, so to speak, so that

1:22:59

they say the right things. But if they’ve

1:23:01

said they’re going into politics, then let them at least

1:23:03

say something. So far, unfortunately, Sergei Shnurov

1:23:05

started disappointing people right from day one.

1:23:08

Very badly disappointing them. For example, he

1:23:11

deleted from his Instagram—I saw that

1:23:14

Open Media wrote about it—all of his

1:23:16

critical poems. You remember, there were

1:23:18

some great ones—he wrote poems about the guarantor

1:23:20

(a common ironic reference to Putin), about pension reform, about Putin.

1:23:23

And today it turned out that after he announced

1:23:25

that he was joining the Party of Growth and going into the elections,

1:23:27

he somehow went and deleted them.

1:23:28

Those critical poems were

1:23:32

fairly mild, harmless even, but still

1:23:34

he deleted them anyway. It was probably

1:23:36

part of the deal: we’ll give you not

1:23:38

this much money, but this much money

1:23:40

if you delete everything. Unfortunately, Shnurov

1:23:42

fell for it, but

1:23:46

I think he shouldn’t have done it, because

1:23:50

after all, his audience is the audience

1:23:53

he’s counting on.

1:23:54

They sense all this pretty clearly, and

1:23:59

of course over Sergei Shnurov—and over his

1:24:02

participation, and indeed over the participation of all

1:24:04

such people—throughout the whole time while they’re

1:24:08

trying to run in

1:24:10

the elections, there will hang, so to speak,

1:24:13

Sergei Shnurov’s own song, which has already

1:24:16

And today that was also such a

1:24:17

disappointing move, such a

1:24:19

disappointing act by Shnur—he

1:24:21

publicly declared that he was disavowing

1:24:24

that famous song of his about

1:24:27

elections. But I want to say to Sergei: Sergei,

1:24:31

that song—and especially the ending of that song—in

1:24:36

this situation, you won’t be able

1:24:38

to disavow it. You’ve only made it all

1:24:40

that much more relevant, even more relevant. We

1:24:43

very much want normal people

1:24:47

and normal candidates to take part in elections.

1:24:50

But what the Kremlin is doing is exactly what

1:24:54

you sang about. And at the end of the program, please take

1:24:58

your children away from your blue—in this case,

1:25:01

black—screens. Let’s remember

1:25:03

how brilliantly Sergei Shnurov described

1:25:07

exactly what the Kremlin is doing now:

1:25:10

The great day has come, I

1:25:13

was handed a ballot, I take it and

1:25:16

mark an X—I vote against them all.

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I’m playing out of the flame.

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1:25:29

I’m not choosing you.

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1:25:36

The voting is underway.

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Elections. Candidates.

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Someday we will definitely achieve

1:25:52

a situation where there are normal

1:25:53

candidates in elections. And to Sergei Shnurov

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I wish that he would conduct himself in politics in such a way

1:25:58

that we could support him without any hesitation

1:26:00

through Smart Voting, and we would certainly

1:26:02

be happy to do that if he turns out to be

1:26:05

a decent deputy. See you

1:26:07

a decent candidate first. See you

1:26:10

next Thursday. Bye.

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