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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly

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8:00 p.m., and I’d like to say that

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normally, I’d be in the Navalny Live studio,

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Alexei Navalny, who today was called

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a person who spreads

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fake news about the coronavirus. But I’m not in the studio

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at Navalny Live. Welcome to my

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home, and I know for sure that at least

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most of you — the overwhelming

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majority — are also watching this

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broadcast from home, so let’s have

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a nice little tea-time YouTube streaming

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party. Let me say in advance a huge

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thank you — I hope nothing breaks,

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or crashes. If it does crash, don’t

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leave right away — wait a little while.

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Many thanks to the Navalny Live team,

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which somehow, by some clever means,

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managed to organize all this. Send me

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your questions on Twitter with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture

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— I hope we’ll be able to

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— there’s a monitor set up here for me in a clever way

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to pass your

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questions onto this screen, and I’ll try to answer them.

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Since this week I was called

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a person who spreads fake news

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about the coronavirus, I’d like to find out who

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is really spreading fake news here. To do that,

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I’d like to use your help. In the corner below,

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where you’re watching on YouTube, there should be

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a little icon there.

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And if you click it, there will be a poll. This

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question is very important, because our

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government and Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer safety watchdog)

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— a disgusting, vile, lying

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organization — assure us that as of today

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they have conducted five hundred

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thirty-six thousand tests across Russia

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for the coronavirus. What’s interesting is that

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journalist Ilya Shepelin, shortly before

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the broadcast, noticed that

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for three days in a row, or maybe even four

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days in a row,

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they published the exact same figure. In my

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view, it’s completely made up. And then

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today Prime Minister Mishustin said

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that 36,000

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coronavirus tests are now being done every day. If that’s true,

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then more than half a million tests

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have already been carried out. If it’s 36,000 every day, then

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practically every one of us should have

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someone we know who has taken this

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coronavirus test. So I’m asking you

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to take part in the poll.

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Do you know

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personally at least one person — honestly,

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I mean personally. Not that

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you saw, I don’t know,

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Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister

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of the United Kingdom, took the test. So

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say yes only if you personally know

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at least one person who took

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this test and got a result, which is important,

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because right now everyone who ends up in

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the hospital is told, ‘We’re testing you,’ but

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then they never give them the result. I’m already

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curious what result we’ll get. We already have

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40,000 viewers watching us live

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right now — that’s an excellent start.

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Let’s begin. There are many topics today, and this is

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probably exactly the kind of situation where

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I can say that I’m not in any

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hurry, and you’re not in any hurry either. We

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can make this stream as

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long as we want, but as usual we’ll try

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to keep it to a little over an hour, or

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maybe an hour and a half. But we’ll discuss

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all sorts of interesting things. There really

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is a lot to talk about. But yes,

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naturally, coronavirus, Putin, and

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everything else — by now it’s become a tradition

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that has probably lasted a month, where I spend

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most of the program discussing, of course,

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issues related to the epidemic. I’d like

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to dwell on several news stories

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which, unfortunately, because

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the news agenda has now completely

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changed, some important stories

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went unnoticed. And I’d like

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people to pay attention to them. One very

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funny story came out about how Putin

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met — sensationally — with a real

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grandmother. Remember that very grandmother from

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St. Petersburg who asked him

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that awkward question about 10,000

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rubles — how can a disabled person survive on

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10,000 rubles a month, and afterward everyone was delighted

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and said, ‘Oh my God, what a brave

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grandmother.’ Though it’s strange that

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other grandmothers

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or disabled people — and not just grandmothers, but girls, grandfathers,

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young people — don’t ask such a simple

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question. But let’s just recall this

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little moment.

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Don’t push.

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Touch this here.

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And... [inaudible] 1,000... 600...

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Can you live on that? [inaudible]

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But according to which...

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Come on now, you know perfectly well whom

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it’s worth sending to the store to buy groceries

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with that money.

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So that’s not...

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When it’s in the thousands, I really...

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And there are children too... this time we

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understand.

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We now have this kind of support program.

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What was that story about earlier? Well, the story

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was that Putin really was asked

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a question

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— an obvious, direct question: how can one

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live on 10,000 rubles? And he was thrown off,

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mumbled something, and couldn’t

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answer anything. But now this is a story that,

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well, happened about one and a half

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months ago. Time passes.

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So long ago that it feels like it was us already,

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like it really happened in a past life. It has become

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much funnier now, because

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it turned out that this person was, in the literal

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sense, the only random

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person there—a St. Petersburg journalist. And then

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several media outlets conducted, well, not exactly an

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investigation, more like a study into who was standing

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in that crowd, and it turned out they were all

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plants.

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Every single person who was there

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was some kind of—there was an Alexander, like

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the head of a commenting department

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at RIA FAN, which is one of Prigozhin’s

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trash outlets, basically

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the kind that deals in bots and internet trolls—that’s what it does.

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There were heads of commenting departments,

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officials from the Vasileostrovsky District,

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Eduard Ilyin, Vitaly Martynenko, Galina

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Korolyova.

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In other words, all those people who were standing there

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around him,

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every last one of them was planted. We’ve discussed many times

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and laughed about how

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Putin is always meeting lumberjacks,

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fishermen, archaeologists, whoever you like,

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and that they’re all staged people. But honestly,

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when I saw, over and over again, this

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matching of faces across different photographs,

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it seemed to me like it was a bit of an

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exaggeration, because at least for

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some liveliness in the picture they would need

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to bring in at least some ordinary people. But as it

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turns out, no. In fact, just note—

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or rather, remember—this was all

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presented as a spontaneous meeting

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between Vladimir Putin and St. Petersburg residents whom

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he supposedly met on the street. In reality, they prepared

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everyone. It was just some

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woman passing by at random who

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apparently squeezed in between those officials and

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asked her own questions, causing that awkward scene.

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Well, that’s just another very

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good example, and today we’re going to

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talk about this a lot.

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The person is absolutely

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completely detached from reality,

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because

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a spontaneous meeting with people is possible—

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he may not even know about it. He just says,

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“Maybe let’s—hey, Petrovich,”

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“driver, please stop, I want

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to spontaneously meet some people, we’ll

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talk and find out how they’re

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living.” And they say, “Wait, Vladimir Vladimirovich,”},{

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“let’s just go around the corner—there’s a

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prepared spontaneous meeting there.” Not a crowd of

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ordinary people, but officials and some crooks from

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the troll factory, all going, “Oh my God,

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you’re so wonderful, you’re the best,”

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“and we’re living so well,” and taking pictures with him.

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After that, Putin gets into his

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car and drives away, thinking, “The people really do love

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me. Whatever all those things on the internet are saying,”},{

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“but these people—random people,”},{

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“St. Petersburg residents I met by chance—they love me,”},{

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“everything is fine for them.” And in fact,

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to jump ahead a bit, this is why he now

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doesn’t want to pay anyone despite all

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these self-isolation measures, because it seems to him

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that nothing is wrong, that everyone is doing

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just fine. 50,000 people are watching us live.

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I also wanted to discuss a topic with the

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provocative title “Porn Porno” from

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Margarita. Today, Lyubov Sobol

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released, you could say, the third part

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of our series about how Margarita

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Simonyan stole just about everything. It may not have been

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all that noticeable,

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again, against the backdrop of terrible news about

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and simply major news about

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the coronavirus, but on the Navalny LIVE channel

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the full video is there—go watch it.

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Sobol conducted an independent

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investigation together with her team

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into fake YouTube boosting. It may seem like

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nonsense—what’s the big deal about inflating YouTube numbers?

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But

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this no longer concerns just “International Sawmill” (a Russian satirical TV show),

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which was the subject of an investigation, or the film

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*Crimean Bridge*,

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where Simonyan, her husband, and the whole

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family stole 50 million rubles (about $540,000). This

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concerns something much bigger: the structure of the

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RT channel, which receives 20

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billion rubles (about $215 million). If you

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follow Margarita Simonyan on Twitter, you’ve

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seen how she disappears every time

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after we release an investigation about her,

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then reappears and

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tries to distract attention.

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She always comes back and starts writing

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things that seem kind of correct, and

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she wrote a truly astonishing tweet saying,

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“Guys,

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why aren’t the authorities buying anything for doctors?

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They so badly need protective

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equipment—masks and all that—and it would take only

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5 million rubles (about $54,000) to

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supply an entire hospital for a whole month.”

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And yet RT receives 20

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billion rubles every year. Thousands of

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hospitals could be supplied with all of this. That’s

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the crucial point. And now it has emerged

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that even this giant, enormous enterprise,

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where thousands of people work, which

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burns through billions of rubles,

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and which was already known to have no real TV

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audience—nobody watches it on television—

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was constantly bragging that

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it had huge numbers of views on YouTube. Well,

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Sobol proved that all those views

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are absolutely, completely fake. Let’s play

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a minute and a half from her long,

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interesting video, which you should watch.

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You can watch it, but for now here’s a minute and a half.

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A video with 545 comments, and

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almost nobody writes anything about the video itself.

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But there are lots of comments like these, or

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like these very strange comments. 13

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million views, and hardly any

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comments from real people. Margarita

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is everything fine, or maybe this is part of

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some very cunning multi-step scheme and he

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is about to be made

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editor-in-chief of a new Russian

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national patriotic porn website.

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to look very tense. We are planning

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to come to London and

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whose freedom we will stand up for.

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long-suffering, and the video about child

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footballers — when people watched it, it was like, wow,

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what beautiful statistics.

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Now I’ll explain to you what these

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graphs mean. On July 17, 2018, the video was posted

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online — note that it was posted at the very peak

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of interest in the FIFA World Cup

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topic, and despite how ultra-trendy

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the subject was, the video did not become popular. In

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six months it got only 30,000

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views.

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Anyone here will tell you that, unfortunately, with

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a probability of 99.9

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percent, this video was never going to take off

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ever, and in the coming years it was unlikely

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to even break 50,000. And yet, suddenly

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the view graph shoots sharply upward

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literally out of nowhere. So, from January 6

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to March 6, 2019,

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the video crosses the threshold of about one million

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views. From March to April

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it grows phenomenally to eight million.

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At the same time, this rapid growth in timing

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coincides with the appearance of all these strange

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and at times simply mysterious

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comments.

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Well done, Sobol, really excellent stuff.

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She put out a great investigation, and we need

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to remember that. This Margarita

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Simonyan

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and all the rest of them should keep having their noses rubbed in it

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because, guys, 20

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billion rubles — if 20 billion rubles

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had been spent on healthcare

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right now not a single doctor in

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Russia would be asking

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where am I supposed to get a medical mask. That is

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an enormous amount of money. We must

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protect that money from embezzlers like these.

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85,000 people are watching us live.

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Welcome to my home. And Alexei,

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I’m being asked: “Alexei, good evening,

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why aren’t banks following the president’s

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instructions, specifically on providing

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loan holidays for individuals?” There were

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no presidential instructions at all — that’s the

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point. We’ll talk about this in detail.

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There are no instructions. From the standpoint of

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formal legal reality, nothing

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extraordinary has actually happened.

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In real life, of course, we have experienced

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extraordinary things, but in

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Russia there now exists a “non-working month,”

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and something was said there to the banks, but

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in reality, of course, many of them

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are not going to comply with all of this because

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it’s not very clear to the banks who

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is going to compensate them for these capital losses, and

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so on. The same goes for employers. Of course,

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many of them are not going to pay

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anyone wages right now because there is no money. Well,

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where is the money supposed to come from? Do you have some little chest

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under your bed that you open,

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take money out of, and pay people with? Banks don’t have money, and

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businesses don’t have money either. So basically

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Putin announced all this without taking the slightest

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responsibility upon himself. With the

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hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture, write to me on

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Twitter your questions — I’ll try

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to answer. Congratulations to everyone watching

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our program and everyone who supported Shiyes

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all these months. There is still going to be a very

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big and important struggle there, but today

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they finally kicked out the vile,

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disgusting crook who headed

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Arkhangelsk Region and was in fact

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one of the key people who

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lobbied for this gigantic construction project in Sh

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iyes, and

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by the way, behaved in an extremely brazen and

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arrogant way. Let’s watch 29 seconds of how he

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basically says he doesn’t give a damn about

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ratings.

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He doesn’t care what people think of him. 20 seconds.

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I’ll repeat: if I were guided by

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the numbers, I should have hanged myself on May 13,

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2012.

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Not a chance. They’ll wait forever for me

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to hang myself. I know what I’m doing, I know that I

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have governed, and I’ve lived here for more than 20 years,

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my children were born here.

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And all sorts of riffraff here who are nobody and

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have no standing at all

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are trying to call me all kinds of things,

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whether a Leningrader or a Ukrainian. I’ve spent 28

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years on this land, so I don’t care

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about their ratings or votes regarding

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what they think about me.

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Maybe you don’t care about

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ratings, old man, but Putin does care about ratings,

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and that’s why the governor was removed.

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Because they took a measurement and found out

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that everyone hates him because he

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made — or wanted to make — this dump.

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Wanted to make it.

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And in that sense, this is an excellent example

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of how

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spreading information, lowering

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a rating, destroying the rating

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of a specific crook — it really works.

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Guys, every time you press the

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retweet button,

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it genuinely works in that sense.

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The people in the Shiyes support group, they

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did an absolutely amazing job, but

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I can even track it through such small details, maybe

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As a matter of fact, you know that in peacetime

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we used to put out these little things that

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I call Kira News on social media—short

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news items about different things. I would just

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post them on social media, and the most popular

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post of all time on VKontakte (Russia’s largest social network), I think,

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got about 1.5 million views. It was

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that particular story that really took off because

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activists created a kind of network

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for spreading any news, and

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the entire Arkhangelsk region saw it—everyone

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was forwarding it to one another. A huge

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number of people watched it.

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And in the end even that brazen, insolent governor

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ran into the fact that people from

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the Presidential Administration called

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and said, “Buddy, your approval rating is so low that

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United Russia (the ruling party) won’t be able to climb

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to any decent result in our nationwide vote, which

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we’ll of course rig in favor of the Constitution, but in your region

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basically zero people will vote for us,” and

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so on and so forth. “So leave.” And

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he left. And we definitely need to

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remember that. One last news item not

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connected to the coronavirus, but connected

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to the wonderful and very expensive Igor

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Ivanovich Sechin, who really is

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expensive in every sense of the word. The news

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went almost unnoticed, and yet it is

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something absolutely fundamental and enormous.

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Remember how Sechin and Putin said

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that it was a great idea to invest

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in Venezuela and in Rosneft’s Venezuelan projects,

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Rosneft being a state-owned company? In general,

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our state invested billions, then

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$18 billion.

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The scale here is absolutely colossal,

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the sums are fantastic, and naturally many

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people said it was complete nonsense—there’s

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a revolution in Venezuela, it’s unclear who

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actually holds power there, and all that money

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would be lost.

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And I talked about this a lot on the program, and

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then clips from my speeches

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were shown everywhere, and all sorts of Kremlin

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crooks said, “Navalny doesn’t understand

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anything. Everything in Venezuela is going to be great.”

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“We’ll see in a little while,” they said.

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“All these opposition people just keep grumbling, but

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Russia will make a huge amount of money in Venezuela

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because, you see,

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it’s great—the Venezuelans kicked the Americans out

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from everywhere, and now everything will fall to us.”

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So what happened? Rosneft, the largest

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Russian oil company—our company, yours and mine—

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a state-owned company, and its money is

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our money. And, properly speaking,

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Rosneft’s share capital, Rosneft’s stock, is

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our stock, yours and mine, because it is

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a state-owned company. Rosneft

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came up with a clever scheme: they took

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all of their loss-making, now obviously

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completely failed Venezuelan

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projects—they failed, they are worth

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nothing, they are unprofitable—

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and transferred them to some company, and then

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the shares of that company were exchanged with

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the Russian Federation for 10 percent

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of Rosneft’s shares. It may sound

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a bit complicated, but the point is that this was

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a classic case of privatizing

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profits and nationalizing losses. In other words,

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Sechin—the crook and thief—who

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managed the company in a completely talentless way and simply

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poured money into Venezuela,

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lost that money, and then handed those losses

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over to Russia, while Russia, in exchange, put on Rosneft’s balance sheet

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and gave away 10 percent of the shares. You

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might say, well, but after all

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they didn’t go to Sechin personally, they

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went to Rosneft. But the dividends on

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those shares, the seat on the board of directors,

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the control, and so on and so forth—

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this is called a circular ownership structure. In

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Russia we already have one such major

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oil company—Surgutneftegaz.

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Who does it belong to?

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No one knows. It basically belongs to itself; there’s a circular

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structure there. It belongs to the pension fund

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of Surgutneftegaz and to other legal entities, and that

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pension fund is produced by—well, in other words,

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it’s just mutual share ownership, and in the end

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you get a giant company that it’s unclear

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who

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belongs to, but in practice it belongs to the management

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that runs everything. The same thing

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is happening with Rosneft: it used to be ours,

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now it’s become Igor Ivanovich’s. Of course,

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not literally in Sechin’s wallet, but

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we can simply see how, under cover of

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the coronavirus,

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this news story was practically ignored—no one

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paid attention. They simply took 10

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percent of the shares of the largest company

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and just removed them from the ownership of the Russian

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Federation—just took them away. This is,

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absolutely comparable to the biggest privatization

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deals of the “cursed ’90s,”

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the loans-for-shares auctions, the outright theft

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of enormous state property.

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This is happening right now. It is being done by

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Putin and Sechin, and no one is paying

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attention because of this damned

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coronavirus. So, I’m being asked:

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“Danila asks: Alexei, do you think it’s possible

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to do the same thing with other issues?”

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Yes, it is possible, and it should be done. This government

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rests on Putin’s approval rating, on the government’s

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approval rating. Most of our fellow citizens, unfortunately,

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have simply been stupefied and duped;

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they’ve had “noodles hung on their ears” (a Russian idiom meaning they’ve been fed lies).

20:21

They watch television all day long. And now

20:23

they’re going to sit at home for a month and

20:26

watch television for a month,

20:29

where they’ll be told that everything is wonderful here,

20:30

that our hospitals are amazing, how great everything is,

20:33

that we’re doing such a fine job sending medical equipment to

20:35

the United States.

20:35

Our task is to act in the opposite way

20:38

— that is, to try

20:39

to resist this propaganda. And at one point,

20:41

in a situation like the one in Arkhangelsk,

20:43

it worked: the whole power structure fell apart.

20:46

It’s a colossus with feet of clay — there are no

20:48

approval ratings there, nothing at all, and they understand they will never

20:51

be re-elected. The same thing

20:52

can and should be done

20:58

more broadly, with regard to absolutely any

21:00

other problem in Russia. Ninety-nine thousand

21:03

people are watching us live right now — let’s get

21:04

to one hundred thousand, that’s what we need. A reminder that

21:07

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21:15

broadcast we’ll probably make it to four thousand.

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support our broadcast that way.

21:27

Let’s move on, actually, to the main

21:32

topic of discussion — basically, to our lives,

21:34

to where we’ve found ourselves now. And of course,

21:37

the main topic of discussion, really,

21:40

is how we are going to live

21:43

for an indefinite period of time.

21:46

Right now it has already been indicated that this will last

21:48

for a month, until the end of April. My assumption

21:51

is that it will last longer.

21:53

Quite possibly until the beginning of summer. But at

21:56

the very least, we look at the experience of other

21:57

countries and understand that the peak of this

22:01

epidemic has not yet arrived here. In other

22:03

countries, when the epidemic reaches its peak,

22:06

there will probably still be

22:08

a huge number of cases; people

22:09

will keep getting sick and getting sick, but at

22:11

least this

22:12

exponential growth will stop increasing. We are obviously

22:15

still far from that.

22:17

Because we still do not want to use

22:20

— we are still ignoring — Western experience and

22:22

objective data. Therefore my

22:24

assumption is that this may last

22:25

quite a long time. And even now

22:28

no one understands what is allowed and what is not.

22:31

Some kind of quarantine is being

22:34

announced endlessly — or rather, not even a quarantine

22:35

is being announced: in one place it’s “self-isolation,” in

22:38

another it’s “quarantine,” and Putin announces a

22:40

“non-working week.” What does a non-working

22:43

week even mean? Why, exactly, if it’s

22:44

just a non-working week,

22:46

can’t I go outside?

22:49

And already after my last

22:51

broadcast, Sobyanin announced this very

22:54

same

22:54

self-isolation. We are now supposed to, as it were,

22:57

do it voluntarily. We’ve got 102,000 people watching us

22:59

live — hooray, hooray, congratulations

23:01

to everyone on this record viewership.

23:05

It’s kind of great and at the same time

23:07

sad. It means that, well,

23:09

everyone is sitting at home, waiting, and not understanding

23:12

what is happening. And with this sudden

23:17

announcement that in Russia there will be

23:19

some kind of digital

23:20

concentration camp built — in Moscow, in Moscow, note

23:23

this, it was announced that in Moscow

23:24

some kind of app has apparently already been made,

23:27

and some QR codes will be issued

23:29

so that people can go to the store; with a dog

23:32

you can walk only within a distance of 100 meters.

23:34

All of this looks completely,

23:38

well, fantastical, surreal. I

23:40

am absolutely in favor of quarantine.

23:42

I am in favor of a strict quarantine, but

23:45

measures of this kind do not exist even in

23:48

countries with strict quarantines — these kinds of

23:50

excessive and strange measures, which

23:54

for all that, absolutely do not

23:58

correspond to what the authorities should be doing

24:01

to fight the epidemic. Notice

24:03

that within the framework of

24:07

fighting the epidemic,

24:08

we are told about nothing except

24:11

tightening restrictions: we will tighten something,

24:13

we will tighten everything, we will fine

24:16

you 300,000 rubles (about several thousand US dollars), we will

24:18

put you in prison for five years,

24:19

we will do various other things to you,

24:21

you will be walking around with

24:22

these codes, and so on and so forth. Meanwhile,

24:25

do you hear any news about

24:27

how we bought new ventilators or how

24:30

well prepared we are?

24:31

There is news about testing,

24:34

but there is no actual testing. A reminder for

24:36

those who have just joined us: we are

24:37

running a poll. Click the letter “i” in the corner

24:41

of the screen and take part in the poll. If

24:43

among the people you know there are people who have actually

24:45

gone through testing,

24:47

all of this is a lie. But when all this

24:49

was suddenly announced on Saturday,

24:52

it

24:54

looked very strange, very

24:58

harsh. And what struck me most, what I

25:02

want to talk with you about,

25:03

is that the stated reason was

25:08

that City Hall was furious: it had announced self-

25:12

isolation, Putin had announced a non-working week,

25:14

and then everyone went to the parks. And

25:16

there really were videos from

25:18

Sokolniki Park showing everyone going out for

25:19

shashlik (barbecue). Let’s take a look.

25:36

And there was a lot of justified outrage, like,

25:39

I saw people writing, “My God,”

25:41

“what a gathering of idiots,” “Serebryany Bor (a Moscow park area) is completely

25:44

packed with people,” “they’re so stupid,”

25:46

“why are our fellow citizens so stupid?” And

25:48

the authorities, and Sobyanin as well, apparently also

25:52

through various leaks to the BBC Russian Service,

25:53

let it be known that they were enraged

25:56

by the sight of everyone going out for

25:59

shashlik in Sokolniki Park

26:01

because, how could this be — people just don’t understand.

26:04

People this stupid obviously need to be dealt with.

26:06

Fine them or beat them with bamboo sticks.

26:08

Like in India, where people were being invited out for shashlik (barbecue).

26:12

Speaking of those "good fairies," who was it that invited people out for shashlik?

26:15

These people deleted their report, but we’re going to

26:19

watch it now. I’ll keep it up in the

26:22

corner so that our broadcast doesn’t get

26:24

shut down later. A report from Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel). Crooks,

26:27

scumbags, and all the rest of those cowardly

26:29

types deleted it. They were putting out reports like this:

26:33

Great, it’s a non-working week, and now

26:37

an Emergency Situations Ministry employee will explain how to

26:39

grill shashlik. We’ll watch a short report,

26:41

10 seconds long, but really

26:44

there were much longer reports about how, guys,

26:48

we get it, the weather is great right now,

26:50

go out for some shashlik, just make sure you

26:52

light the coals properly here, don’t

26:54

head out into nature carelessly. I mean, why

26:56

not go during a non-working week, right?

26:58

You can look up information about a specific forest park

27:01

online before heading out for a picnic, and at the

27:03

entrances there are always

27:06

information boards.

27:07

And where can you light a fire? In specially

27:11

equipped areas. Chef Ilya and his

27:14

friend Alexander are avid hikers.

27:16

They say they know all the fire safety rules.

27:19

But Sergei Grekov, an Emergency Situations Ministry employee, has

27:21

a comment.

27:22

If you start lighting it right away,

27:24

the accumulated fumes could cost you your beard.

27:30

Now we wait 30 to 40 seconds,

27:34

and only then do we light it. And here’s another

27:38

mistake. I have one small remark for you:

27:41

you placed the lighter fluid bottles

27:44

next to the grill. Note that the shashlik was

27:47

cooked in a designated area, which means it was

27:49

safe.

27:51

Hooray, hooray, in the middle of a global

28:00

epidemic, when countries all over the world are already in

28:03

quarantine, they’re announcing that shashlik season is open.

28:06

They bite off a piece of meat, and with that same piece of meat

28:08

they clink it together like a toast. This was shown on

28:11

Channel One with cute, good-natured

28:12

jokes: guys, go have shashlik, just

28:15

don’t singe your beard,

28:17

and otherwise everything’s fine. So people went.

28:19

But they watch Channel One, not

28:21

Twitter. They’re not sitting here on

28:23

YouTube. They watch that stuff over there, probably. But

28:26

most of those people weren’t watching my streams, where

28:28

I’d been saying for a long time that quarantine measures needed to be introduced,

28:29

that people needed to self-isolate, guys,

28:32

please, take this seriously, wear masks,

28:34

wear gloves. You definitely should not

28:36

bite off and eat a piece of shashlik and then

28:39

rub that same piece against someone else’s

28:41

piece and then keep eating it. That’s

28:42

just insane, and they were showing this

28:44

already after that very

28:48

Putin non-working week had been introduced. And before that,

28:52

by the way, people here were actually

28:58

being amazingly disciplined. I look out the

29:00

window and I see almost no one on the street. I

29:03

don’t know what it’s like in other cities, write to

29:04

me here, but in Moscow there are very few people out.

29:07

People really are staying home. And I

29:10

see more and more people wearing masks.

29:12

People understand it. All the shop workers are in

29:15

gloves and all that sort of thing. In other words, people

29:17

are trying, and they had been trying for quite

29:20

a while. But some countries

29:23

had been in quarantine since March 2,

29:26

and some sensible part of our

29:28

fellow citizens, let’s say the internet crowd,

29:30

had been shouting the whole time: what the hell,

29:34

bring in quarantine, the disease is spreading and everyone

29:37

will get sick. The authorities were ignoring it. What were

29:40

the authorities doing all that time? They were consistently

29:42

telling everyone it was all nonsense, all nonsense,

29:45

guys, what is there to be afraid of, it’s not a real

29:46

disease. Even the most disgusting figures like

29:48

Margarita Simonyan—how many tweets did she write,

29:50

my God.

29:52

It’s no more dangerous than the flu, just look.

29:54

That famous line: what luck,

29:56

look how many people die every

29:58

year from the flu, while from coronavirus overall

30:01

no one has died. It’s nonsense.

30:02

Where are those very

30:04

dead people? They’re not lying around in the streets anywhere,

30:06

so it must all be nonsense, it’s

30:08

all hysteria, someone must benefit from whipping this up, damn it,

30:11

from creating this panic. Of course, foreigners,

30:14

of course, some villains benefit from it, and

30:18

it’s all nonsense—that’s what our authorities were saying.

30:20

They were brainwashing everyone who watches

30:23

television. So why are you now

30:24

making accusations against them for the fact that they

30:26

went out for shashlik, if they were watching

30:29

this? Let’s watch 39 seconds of it.

30:32

Actually, not 39—more like 1 minute 7 seconds of how

30:35

crooks and scoundrels of every kind, the very same ones

30:38

who are now going to demand that we be

30:40

locked up and tagged with QR codes, how they

30:43

spent a whole month, when there was already

30:46

a global quarantine—well, not global,

30:48

but at least a European quarantine—

30:50

convincing us that it was all nonsense.

30:53

If this were some American plot, then it wouldn’t

30:56

make sense, because the virus’s weakness—or rather the fact

30:59

that the virus mainly affects

31:02

at least the Chinese population—

31:03

also suggests that it’s unlikely this

31:07

was deliberate. There’s no need to punish

31:09

people for spreading panic; there’s nothing of the sort.

31:12

There’s nothing there. Just live calmly and work calmly.

31:16

What medicines can be used today?

31:19

Of the medicines already available, there are 30 or so

31:23

that could be used—I don’t know.

31:26

Let me reassure him right away: in fact,

31:29

this outbreak is no more threatening than

31:33

what we’ve seen before. I want to say

31:36

that this excessive panic over it

31:38

will definitely do more harm

31:40

to humanity, and we will lose more people

31:42

because of that panic than because of the virus itself. We will defeat this virus.

31:44

Kholodilnykh Petrovich

31:47

today's situation in terms of the trend

31:49

of the epidemic shows that it has already started to decline

31:52

decline

31:52

so most likely we will soon forget

31:55

about it. Viktor Vasin

31:59

the coronavirus will not pass; we will defeat it

32:04

if Channel One (Russia's main state TV channel) shows you

32:07

people in white coats saying, well, looking

32:09

at this trend, we understand that it is going into

32:10

decline — but what do you expect from people? Of course they

32:12

went out for shashlik (barbecue)

32:13

you didn't tell them, "go have barbecues, everything

32:16

is declining, only Chinese people are getting infected

32:18

it's no more dangerous than the flu" — what do you expect from people?

32:21

What are they, virologists? They can't

32:23

read all these articles in English

32:24

that many of us read. They

32:26

can't; they don't understand these scales, they

32:29

don't understand these graphs, after all

32:32

and then again, on television they are told that in

32:34

Italy there are piles of dead people, but there the

32:36

healthcare system collapsed; with us, of course, that

32:38

won't happen. And now these same people are

32:42

telling us fairy tales that, well, those who

32:45

have that vaccine — we all have this

32:47

BCG vaccine, so we'll be spared, meaning

32:51

maybe we will be very happy if

32:53

we are spared, but so far there is no objective

32:56

evidence that this will help us. In China everyone

32:58

got BCG too, and China was not spared

33:00

so if you yourselves keep endlessly telling people in your rhetoric

33:04

spreading this fake news and hanging

33:07

noodles on their ears (feeding them lies), why? Because Putin

33:09

didn't want to at all; until now he had not introduced

33:11

any quarantine. They don't want any of this

33:14

at all. They wanted to do one very simple

33:17

thing

33:18

well, basically: people get sick, the young get sick

33:21

and recover, while old people, like in

33:24

Italy, 85-plus — we simply don't have that

33:27

many of them; ours have all died already

33:28

long ago. If someone here dies at the

33:31

age of, say, 79

33:33

this is how they reasoned in the Kremlin — that is their logic

33:35

exactly. Good Lord, they tell you

33:38

a person has died

33:39

at 79 — what is your reaction? We are in Russia

33:43

here the value of human life is, first of all,

33:45

low, and second, everyone here says

33:47

79 years old — he's already lived too long

33:49

really, he should have died earlier

33:51

by every calculation and by every notion, so

33:54

that is how we live here in Russia, and therefore

33:56

that is exactly how they thought: well, some

33:58

people will die, and we'll record them under

34:00

some other illnesses; here they will all

34:03

die not from pneumonia, not from

34:05

coronavirus, but from those other diseases

34:07

no one will pay attention to that. But all this

34:11

had been discussed earlier, for several months

34:14

even on

34:15

back in January there were debates all over the world on

34:18

this topic, and it became clear to everyone that no

34:21

that wouldn't work, even if you don't care

34:23

about the value of human life

34:24

it is impossible to make this epidemic

34:27

pass unnoticed. So at first they

34:30

did nothing; they convinced everyone that

34:32

there was nothing to fear, nothing to do. And now

34:35

now they're running around us, damn it, shouting: quarantine!

34:38

quarantine! martial law! we'll arrest people!

34:41

we'll jail them! Well, that's what they did with

34:45

this — a state of emergency, over the top

34:46

on the eve of a curfew in the Moscow

34:49

Region

34:50

after Sobyanin and

34:52

Vorobyov, the governor of the Moscow Region, simultaneously

34:54

announced self-isolation there

34:56

cars literally started driving around everywhere

34:58

announcing over loudspeakers that a

35:00

curfew had been introduced. Let's watch

35:14

[music]

35:40

I'm back on the air — the cables just can't handle

35:43

the sheer tension of our broadcast, but

35:45

sorry for that glitch. I hope you

35:47

didn't all drop off — after all, this is a stream from home

35:50

this is a stream from home, some relatives

35:52

are walking around, kicking the cables with their feet, and everything

35:54

falls apart. Anyway, I hope you

35:57

saw this video about

35:58

the curfew. I mean, the Moscow

36:00

Region, the second most populous federal subject

36:03

of the Russian Federation — across the Moscow

36:05

Region police cars are driving around and shouting

36:08

through loudspeakers: curfew

36:09

ordinary people on the street are hearing this

36:12

hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions

36:14

of people — they see that there is a curfew

36:16

they film it and post it on social media

36:19

and what do the authorities do? The Investigative Committee

36:22

opens a criminal case over

36:24

the spread of fake news regarding

36:27

the introduction of a curfew. And now I

36:30

see that I'm being asked, Radon

36:31

Alexei, what do you think, will

36:33

the coronavirus be used for even

36:34

more tightening of the screws? Of course yes. That is,

36:37

they themselves screwed up; apparently they

36:38

had some plan for introducing

36:40

a curfew, and somewhere in the

36:42

Interior Ministry someone grabbed the wrong folder and said, right

36:45

guys, let's send them out across the country later, and

36:48

they go around saying that a curfew

36:51

is being introduced, the cops are out, let's go, announce all this

36:55

they announced it. And the local committee, you understand, does not

36:57

punish the police officers — it opens

36:59

a criminal case and announces that it

37:01

will look for the people who posted

37:06

these videos — absolutely normal

37:08

real, honest videos

37:12

yes, it's a funny moment, thank you very much

37:15

it's a funny moment of a home stream, well

37:18

yes, after all, we have a warm, cozy

37:22

home stream: I'm at home, you're at home, you're drinking

37:24

a little tea, me too, so anyway of course

37:26

they will use this. More than that, they

37:29

will themselves keep messing up endlessly

37:32

but from us they will demand some kind of

37:35

simply absolutely fantastical things

37:38

well, for example, when we talk about

37:41

the authorities messing up, I, well, I think that

37:44

many people who saw this video were just

37:47

watching them with their jaws dropped, because

37:49

this is happening in a place where I lived

37:51

now probably not the greater part of my

37:53

life, but half of my life I spent in

37:55

the settlement of Kalininets in the Moscow region, here sta...

37:59

the Taman Division is located there, in Alabino, and

38:02

all these training grounds, Patriot Park—this is all now

38:03

there, and from there came this video of how right now

38:06

for some reason they gathered 15,000

38:10

soldiers in one place, and they are training, preparing for

38:12

the parade. What social distancing could there be?

38:15

The whole world is already shouting: one meter, two meters, masks

38:19

don’t stand close—no, instead they have to herd these

38:22

soldiers, 15,000 people, and there they are standing

38:25

there. And the video contains a lot of swearing, and naturally

38:28

we tried to censor that swearing. Let’s

38:30

take a look.

38:36

[inaudible] and into the group

38:44

something like fifteen thousand

38:53

while they were saying there should be no more than 50 people

38:56

not gather together, got it? So, are all of you

39:00

healthy?

39:05

[inaudible] your morals

39:09

damn it

39:12

Honestly, it’s literally impossible without swearing.

39:15

To watch this—what the hell is this, [__]?

39:17

This is the nearest Moscow suburbs, there are soldiers there,

39:22

probably officers who travel to Moscow

39:24

constantly. I lived in this military town;

39:25

half the people there work in Moscow, they

39:28

commute to Moscow. In Moscow, even Putin

39:30

announced that the situation with

39:32

the coronavirus is very difficult, and obviously

39:35

it will be brought there and spread around

39:38

because they spent a lot of time standing in

39:40

formation. Why? For parade rehearsals, for the

39:43

Victory Day Parade, which obviously will have to

39:45

be canceled—on May 9 it obviously needs to

39:47

be postponed. Why do this now?

39:49

Well yes, they’re young people, nothing may

39:52

happen to them, but you remember what the

39:53

mortality rate is among the young—it’s low,

39:55

half a percent. But with 15,000 people—well, I

39:59

hope this doesn’t happen, but if there

40:01

are 15,000 young healthy guys there

40:03

and they get sick, half a percent of them will die. Why

40:07

does this need to be done? Not even mentioning that

40:08

they will infect everything around them. But they

40:10

are doing this, and at the same time doing things

40:12

that completely contradict the whole idea

40:15

of quarantine, and meanwhile they run after us

40:18

with a baton

40:18

with fines, shouting that they’ll now

40:21

arrest us. Right now in the Moscow region they’re building

40:23

a hospital, and they say this hospital

40:27

will be a great 500-bed hospital

40:28

and we’ll put it up as quickly as

40:30

the Chinese did. But perhaps you noticed

40:33

that there isn’t much video from there, because

40:37

with all that Chinese construction, when

40:39

they built a hospital there in a week

40:42

and then built another hospital in 5 more days,

40:44

it was all shown directly on video cameras

40:47

and there was constantly a lot of

40:49

discussion. Here, they’re not showing much. Why?

40:51

Because the Chinese did all that

40:54

using technology, while here they did it by

40:56

naturally herding into one place

40:58

8,000 Kyrgyz workers, and these eight thousand

41:01

Kyrgyz are building it. Fine, if we don’t have

41:03

the construction technology, we sent them there

41:05

to build it—it has to be built, obviously

41:07

but let’s look at what this looks like.

41:09

What it all looks like—I saw on Twitter

41:12

an absolutely correct point: someone posted

41:14

this very video and wrote that if this

41:16

whole crowd builds it in this

41:19

way, the way they’re doing it during

41:20

an epidemic, then a 500-bed hospital only makes

41:23

sense if they immediately also build

41:25

another 8,000-bed hospital next to it, because

41:28

they’ll all infect one another

41:30

[inaudible] this is happening either from physics

41:32

[inaudible] there, Sandra Bullock there, on

41:34

you, or you take it, Beringa [inaudible]

41:37

[inaudible] benefit for bash, loves gardens

41:40

[inaudible] activates dinner for lips so that others

41:42

for the virus pair, kinguin

41:44

Aidan Babyzen saw a queue of groups

41:50

army thalac, they didn’t touch that, there auto

41:55

for what that pair

41:58

vacancies

42:06

Ayia Napa

42:09

it’s standard El Capitan

42:12

kangaroo bar, like Messi, Kharon, in spring, Margo

42:15

Margo

42:18

but it gives [inaudible], water runs, ice

42:21

you’ll come back after that

42:29

Well, it has to be built, obviously, there’s no

42:32

getting around it, it has to be built. It’s clear that this

42:34

is a risk zone, but if you are, during

42:36

an epidemic, building a hospital for the epidemic,

42:40

for an infectious disease, then you at least need

42:43

some basic precautions

42:44

especially since these are migrant workers

42:46

obviously, and people live in hard conditions

42:49

they live in site trailers, they have no money, they eat

42:52

whatever they can, and there are probably some

42:55

difficulties—there are difficulties at any construction site

42:57

but with basic, with the most basic

42:58

hygiene, this really has to be

43:01

provided for. Maybe after all we should

43:03

build it, I don’t know, three days later

43:05

but everyone will be wearing masks or

43:07

following some hygiene rules, because

43:09

these eight thousand people are building it

43:11

they ride the metro

43:12

they, well, that is, they move around the city, they

43:15

do they all have permits? No, they are not

43:16

in self-isolation, not in quarantine. If

43:19

they all infect each other, what happens with this

43:21

after that? How are we supposed to deal with it?

43:23

fight it? I’m talking about this not just for

43:27

to criticize the authorities over there

43:29

although of course they should be criticized for this

43:31

because until you show it

43:33

look, to an audience of 118,000 people, the Moscow mayor’s office

43:35

won’t hand out any masks right now

43:38

they’ll bring this clip to Sobyanin (Moscow’s mayor) and

43:41

say, damn, all of Moscow has seen this kind of

43:43

chaos going on, some Kyrgyz guy filmed it, and

43:45

then he’ll start handing out masks if they

43:48

don’t talk about it—if they don’t talk about it, they

43:49

won’t hand them out. But honestly, what really

43:52

drives me crazy is this constant

43:54

finger-pointing over every single thing—any

43:58

problem exists, the problem isn’t solved, but

44:01

all they focus on is the police side of it:

44:02

intimidate people, force them,

44:05

break them up, jail them, arrest them. In countries

44:08

even with strict lockdowns, they still allow

44:09

for example, jogging. Nikita, in our case, the rules started with

44:12

the message: basically, we’re going to lock all of you up.

44:15

In other countries, public messaging about

44:19

lockdown is done completely differently and

44:22

much more properly, because

44:24

you need to persuade people to do this voluntarily

44:26

and you can say all you want

44:31

that you’ll be fined, arrested, that QR codes

44:33

have to be printed, but if a person doesn’t want

44:35

to follow quarantine, they won’t

44:37

follow it—they’ll

44:39

go around leaving traces of themselves

44:40

biological traces, and infect someone else, and

44:43

there’s no way to make this work except through

44:47

personal example from the very top. Right now we

44:50

see that quite a few leaders of

44:53

the biggest, richest, most powerful countries

44:57

with nuclear weapons and

45:00

all sorts of imperial, powerful states

45:02

and so on—no less powerful than we are,

45:05

that’s for sure.

45:05

But Boris Johnson, the leader of

45:08

the United Kingdom, first

45:09

came into contact with someone who was sick and then

45:12

self-isolated. Then they called him and

45:14

tested him—what does he do? He stays at home.

45:16

Boris Johnson is sitting at home, and

45:20

Trump too—and his whole family; his wife, I think,

45:23

had symptoms and they offered them testing

45:25

for coronavirus. He himself doesn’t have it, but

45:28

even so, he stayed home and self-isolated

45:30

because if you’re calling on the whole nation

45:34

well, that’s the government’s task—our 145

45:38

million, 144 million

45:39

people: some of them are sensible, some

45:41

less so, but you have to persuade them

45:44

to take reasonable steps.

45:47

Start with yourself. Putin should say: guys, I

45:50

went to that infectious disease hospital and

45:54

came into contact with a doctor named

45:57

Protsenko; he was found to have coronavirus. Under

46:01

the rules that, damn it, I wrote down

46:03

on paper for all of you—these rules

46:06

are written out, and every day we see a million

46:08

news stories saying criminal cases will be opened

46:10

against those who do not comply with quarantine,

46:13

we’ll jail them, shoot them, and so

46:14

on. But these rules are for everyone, and under

46:17

your own protocols, you should

46:20

self-isolate—so just sit

46:22

there, just like I am now. I don’t think I’ve

46:25

been in contact with anyone who has been diagnosed with

46:28

this virus, but I’m still sitting at home. That’s

46:29

exactly the point. He could record messages not in

46:31

a tie, but in some cozy sweater and

46:34

say: guys, I’m urging you to quarantine.

46:37

That’s exactly what Angela

46:39

Merkel did.

46:40

She came into contact with a doctor, just like

46:42

in that photo, apparently handing him

46:44

a pen; some time later, the doctor

46:46

was found to have coronavirus. What did Angela

46:49

Merkel do? She said: I’m doing what

46:51

everyone is supposed to do, what’s written on paper—

46:53

quarantine. I’m going into quarantine.

46:56

She isolated herself.

46:57

And Germany, a much richer country

47:00

with far fewer

47:02

problems than we have—in that sense, Germany

47:06

looks like one of the most successful

47:09

countries in terms of fighting the epidemic.

47:11

She self-isolated. Here, nobody cares at all.

47:15

And this Denis Protsenko is just

47:16

a good person, a good doctor,

47:18

he’s just forced right now, of course, to somehow

47:20

play along with the Moscow mayor’s office and

47:22

do a bit of bootlicking for the authorities. But everyone

47:25

says he’s a good man. He also writes: I’ve

47:28

self-isolated in my office.

47:31

Meaning: I feel fine, I’ll

47:34

stay in my office. But come on, dear Denis,

47:38

you’re a doctor—there are quarantine rules.

47:41

You can’t do that. You cannot self-isolate like that.

47:44

Stop telling us fairy tales—you can’t

47:46

self-isolate in an office, even if you’re

47:48

wearing all the protective equipment in the world.

47:50

The point is: quarantine rules are for everyone.

47:53

And there’s no need for this nonsense. Everyone

47:55

must be treated the same, regardless of the color

48:00

of your pass, regardless of your status—whether you’re

48:03

police, doctors, and so on—the rules

48:05

are the same for everyone.

48:06

And when abroad we see that

48:09

the leaders of countries follow these

48:11

rules, then first of all they have

48:13

the moral right to punish those who do not

48:15

follow them, and secondly, in principle,

48:17

far fewer people need to be punished

48:18

because people

48:19

listen. They say: well, look,

48:21

Merkel is properly staying in quarantine,

48:23

so I’ll stay home too. Here, publicly,

48:26

there’s a public attitude of not giving a damn about all this.

48:28

Peskov (Putin’s press secretary) says: no, we’re not

48:30

complying, and we’re not going to comply with

48:33

quarantine—but we’ll jail you if you don’t

48:36

comply with quarantine. Here we have

48:38

plenty of this kind of hypocrisy.

48:40

At the headquarters in Kaliningrad, a young man ended up in

48:43

the hospital, and it was clear that he had it.

48:46

Coronavirus, because he's a young guy.

48:48

He can't breathe at all.

48:51

He has all the symptoms, runs after them all, shouting.

48:54

"Take a test from him"—they take a test.

48:55

They tell him, "Your test is negative."

48:57

He's lying in a ward together with everyone else.

48:59

After he posted and recorded

49:01

several videos—after those videos started spreading,

49:04

he says there were thousands there,

49:06

tens of thousands of people watched them.

49:07

They eventually took a second test from him, and of course

49:10

it turned out that he did have coronavirus.

49:12

Why do I have no doubt that this was

49:15

done for one single, absolutely specific

49:17

reason?

49:18

Any doctor could see the guy had coronavirus,

49:21

but then he'd have to be included in the statistics,

49:23

and the rise in cases in Kaliningrad Region

49:25

would go up. And there sits a crook,

49:27

the governor, and another crook along with him,

49:30

saying, "Guys, we don't need

49:32

the statistics here to go up," and so they

49:34

told him, "You have community-acquired pneumonia,

49:36

sit here with your pneumonia." Pneumonia.

49:38

After the scandal, they tested him and—

49:41

surprise, it's coronavirus. What happens next?

49:43

Now they're threatening to jail him

49:45

because, supposedly, he violated

49:47

quarantine rules and because he filmed videos,

49:49

posted them, and walked around somewhere. But you

49:52

yourselves said the test was negative.

49:53

I specifically asked him to record

49:55

a minute-and-a-half video for our

49:57

program. Let's watch. In the hospital,

50:00

I was in the ward there, they were treating me

50:07

for what was supposedly, attention, attention,

50:14

as it turns out, still viral—but that's not

50:16

the point right now. Yesterday afternoon, the result came back

50:20

that I did not have coronavirus.

50:23

Everything was fine. Then

50:24

the head of the department came and said in front of everyone,

50:26

"Please stay, don't run off, we'll keep treating

50:29

you further." Then later that evening,

50:33

they drove all the patients out of the ward, while I

50:37

was left there under the pretext that I was on

50:40

oxygen, and, "We'll disinfect everything here for you in the meantime."

50:42

After 30 to 40 minutes,

50:45

three people came in, fully

50:49

in protective gear and respirators, wheeled in an isolation box

50:52

and said, "Get ready, let's go

50:55

to the infectious diseases hospital." When I asked why,

50:59

they said, "You have coronavirus.

51:01

The result is positive." So it turned out

51:04

that all this happened because the first test came back

51:08

negative, but apparently someone didn't

51:11

like that, so they decided to recheck it, and the second

51:15

test was already positive. Or

51:18

they sent another swab there—that is,

51:23

they themselves... I don't understand how that

51:25

happened. The point is: yes, I do have

51:28

coronavirus. During all the time in the

51:31

multidisciplinary hospital, literally not a single—well, only

51:34

one doctor said, "Why isn't he in the

51:35

infectious diseases hospital? He's here with us, but he

51:38

should really be there, by all indications.

51:41

That's exactly the point. But if a young

51:44

person has all the symptoms, yes, it's that very

51:46

disease, and nobody cares at all—they

51:48

don't enter him into the records so as not to

51:50

spoil the statistics. But when he posted

51:52

a video saying, "Here I am, and basically

51:54

nobody in the hospital believes that I

51:56

obviously have coronavirus"—my God, arrest him!

51:58

Arrest him for what? You need to

52:01

lock up all those who ignored this,

52:03

those are the people who really should be jailed.

52:05

Sooner or later we'll learn their names, and this

52:07

is simply information—it won't be possible to

52:09

keep it secret forever. Those

52:12

officials who call regional health ministries

52:14

and say, "Register fewer cases,

52:16

don't register them, write 'community-acquired

52:19

pneumonia,' don't write anyone a chart for

52:21

it." Why is this lie needed at all?

52:23

It's unclear. Danil asks me:

52:26

"Alexei, do you think we'll manage

52:28

to match China in building

52:30

the rest of the hospitals?" Are you kidding? Well,

52:31

of course we won't. We build any kind of nonsense

52:34

for years. Maybe now, by means of

52:37

rounding up 8,000 Kyrgyz workers, we'll build a more or

52:40

less decent hospital fairly quickly, but in

52:42

Moscow.

52:42

If you live outside Moscow, you won't see anything

52:46

even remotely like that.

52:47

I've already been live on air for fifty-five minutes,

52:49

and I still feel like I've only spent about

52:52

a third of the time I meant to. Anyway, I hope that

52:55

since you have nothing to do—there are 27,000

52:57

people watching me live, I see—I'll

52:59

keep going a little longer. And I saw

53:04

a question here about Liksutov.

53:06

The Moscow HQ released

53:09

an investigation, and they're asking what you

53:10

think, because Moscow's authorities removed

53:12

information about Liksutov's son. I want to

53:15

say something about that, because this is also

53:17

an excellent example of exactly how they—

53:20

Liksutov, Sobyanin, and all the rest—

53:23

are introducing, or trying to introduce,

53:26

some hellish systems to control us.

53:28

By the way, read Vladislav's posts—

53:31

Zolnikov, a well-known IT specialist and

53:34

internet rights advocate. He looked into

53:37

this app that was made by

53:38

the Moscow government, which is supposed to

53:40

monitor all of us, and he wrote a lot of

53:42

truly astonishing information about it.

53:45

You are supposed to install this app. This

53:47

app gets all the information from your phone—

53:49

that is, it learns literally everything about you.

53:52

You have to photograph yourself, and

53:55

what's more, it collects all your personal

53:57

data, your photo—in other words, it demands access

53:59

to absolutely any information.

54:02

After that, this information

54:04

is sent to Estonia, in my view, and there

54:07

it is analyzed and then forwarded on.

54:10

In other words, they’re breaking the internet for us.

54:13

And over the past few years they’ve passed a whole bunch of

54:16

countless

54:17

absolutely idiotic laws under the

54:19

pretext that foreign

54:21

internet companies collect the personal data

54:24

of Russians, and of course use it for their own

54:27

malicious purposes, because there are NATO

54:29

troops there, and of course all they do is sit around and watch

54:31

how they can get at the personal data of some average Ivan

54:34

who posted something on VKontakte (Russia’s largest social network).

54:35

Meanwhile, they’re making an app

54:38

for police surveillance, a crazy surveillance app

54:40

for police monitoring, and the data

54:42

is processed in Estonia. It’s just

54:44

magnificent: 128 million rubles (about 1.28 million USD)

54:47

of our money was spent on this, on

54:50

tracking us this way. And on top of that,

54:51

the app is buggy and poorly made, I mean,

54:54

it’s not going to work. And at the same time these

54:57

same people are telling us that, well,

55:01

it’s irresponsible citizens who are to blame,

55:03

something about Courchevel (the French ski resort), and

55:05

recently Sobyanin (Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin) said this outright,

55:06

he said that all sorts of Courchevel tourists

55:09

are bringing us the coronavirus.

55:11

Let’s see—no, we can’t watch it, that

55:15

video isn’t there, maybe it’ll show up later.

55:17

Anyway, the situation is that they all

55:19

show off a lot and say that

55:22

tourists are bringing it here

55:23

and that irresponsible citizens aren’t complying.

55:25

At the same time, our Moscow штаб (local campaign office) has long

55:28

been watching—in fact, we’ve long been keeping an eye on

55:30

Liksutov, because he is one of the

55:32

biggest corrupt figures in the Moscow city government.

55:34

In particular, our Moscow office

55:36

monitored his children’s social media and started

55:38

tracking it because it turned out that

55:40

his 15-year-old screwup of a son was racing around in a

55:43

Mercedes, some kind of super-

55:46

expensive 6-liter, mega-

55:48

tricked-out G-Class Brabus and so on,

55:51

all that—at age 15.

55:53

He was taking part in races and quite openly

55:56

bragging that he had just come back

55:58

from that very same Courchevel

56:01

and was supposed to be in quarantine with his family, but he

56:03

obviously wasn’t there alone. Was the

56:05

Liksutov family in Courchevel and in

56:07

quarantine? No. They don’t care, and don’t

56:09

doubt it.

56:09

They’ll have all the permits they need—no

56:13

QR codes needed for them. Let’s watch

56:14

a minute from the Moscow office’s investigation.

56:17

Maxim Liksutov, Sobyanin’s deputy,

56:20

sent his underage son

56:22

to Courchevel

56:23

right in the middle of the epidemic. And when this

56:26

teenager returned to Moscow, he did not

56:28

self-isolate at home with his father. No, he

56:31

kept socializing, taking part

56:33

in illegal street races, and even

56:35

got into a car accident. Liksutov’s car is racing

56:38

another car.

56:39

And behind the wheel is a person named Oskar.

56:42

Also, in this video, for a second

56:45

the nickname [ __ ]49 appears—this is the account

56:48

of Liksutov’s younger son.

56:49

Oskar, and he is only 15 years old. Oskar

56:52

actively uses Instagram. Every single

56:54

post here is a photograph

56:57

of the Mercedes, plate O008, from different angles.

56:59

There’s no doubt: it’s his car. On February 21,

57:03

Oskar posted Stories from Courchevel.

57:05

Soon he returned, but he did not

57:07

self-isolate at home with his father, as required

57:09

by the rules, but kept racing around and even

57:12

caused an accident.

57:13

He swerved into the oncoming lane.

57:16

Obviously, it was precisely the Liksutov family

57:18

that Sobyanin had in mind when he spoke about

57:20

a suitcase full of disease from Courchevel.

57:23

Well, basically—come on—that wasn’t Liksutov himself,

57:26

some critics will say, or

57:28

let’s really try to look at this objectively,

57:30

let’s examine this situation.

57:31

A 15-year-old screwup—well, Liksutov is busy

57:36

lining his pockets at city hall.

57:37

The mother may be busy with something too.

57:40

A 15-year-old screwup can be hard

57:42

to control.

57:42

But still, somehow a Mercedes for a

57:46

15-year-old delinquent can’t just

57:48

materialize out of nowhere. After all, he’s

57:49

15 years old—he’s a child, not 18. Fine, he

57:53

didn’t self-isolate, he climbed out the

57:54

window and ran away from someone after

57:56

coming back from Courchevel—but he’s driving a car,

57:58

and by the way, here’s a great,

58:00

just a really great

58:02

detail: he’s just driving along. I’ll show you

58:05

30 seconds of it, and for 20 seconds he reasons like this:

58:07

They all have Estonian citizenship there, I’m

58:09

sure of it. Liksutov himself most likely

58:11

is hiding Estonian citizenship, and here he is

58:14

calmly explaining: they say I can drive around

58:15

Moscow with no documents at all,

58:17

no license, none of that—I can do

58:19

whatever I want in Moscow, but

58:21

you can’t pull that kind of thing in Estonia because there

58:23

they’ll lock you up for 15 days right away.

58:25

Let’s watch {URL_1}.

58:33

No inspection, no insurance—and over there

58:37

they can really get you for that. This isn’t Moscow.

58:40

Here we drive however we want, whether there’s insurance or not.

58:42

Even without a license. Over there I’d get nailed for that.

58:49

So how are we supposed to expect Moscow residents

58:55

to comply with this voluntarily when

58:57

the best self-isolation, the best quarantine,

58:59

is of course voluntary—when you yourself

59:01

put on the gloves, when you yourself

59:04

try not to cough on anyone so that

59:05

no one coughs on you. How can we expect

59:07

people to follow this gladly

59:09

and voluntarily when simply

59:11

none of these people follow it themselves?

59:13

We don’t even have it properly defined in law—this so-called self-isolation.

59:16

It says there that they may not have to comply with it.

59:18

A public official, a State Duma deputy (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) — why?

59:20

a State Duma deputy

59:21

should not have to follow the law

59:23

self-isolation — why, if they have such

59:27

super-important work? Fine, they

59:28

did their work, passed their laws, very

59:30

wise ones, and then they came back home and should self-isolate

59:32

because those are exactly the people

59:34

who are very often abroad on

59:36

so-called official business, and then

59:38

the State Duma

59:38

they get the opportunity to travel around like this again.

59:41

What we see is the nomenklatura (the privileged Soviet-style ruling class), or simply

59:44

the usual [__] — they issued passes to themselves.

59:46

None of this applies to them.

59:49

Idiocy, just like in those famous jokes about

59:51

how, you know, the highest privilege is

59:54

crossing the street on a red light and

59:55

running across the road in the wrong

59:57

place. They’re so absurd they even grant

1:00:01

themselves privileges like being allowed

1:00:03

not to observe quarantine, and probably

1:00:05

having a greater chance of getting sick — but even so

1:00:07

they insist on it; for them it is

1:00:10

very important. And at the same time, for us — for the 28th

1:00:14

time I repeat it, and I won’t get tired

1:00:16

of repeating it — they are building a digital

1:00:18

concentration camp for us. I say this as someone who supports

1:00:20

quarantine. More than that, this digital

1:00:22

concentration camp simply

1:00:24

— well, it will be, and already is, super-

1:00:28

degenerate. In Samara, was it? Or, if I remember correctly,

1:00:30

in Samara — no, sorry,

1:00:33

of course, the classic mistake: not Samara,

1:00:34

Saratov — in Saratov

1:00:36

they have already announced that there will be

1:00:38

special passes. So, everyone who

1:00:41

wants to get a special pass, in order

1:00:44

to receive one — let’s look at what that actually looks like. So,

1:00:46

they literally gathered, during

1:00:48

an epidemic, an entire crowd out on the street,

1:00:52

and that crowd is all milling around there,

1:00:55

obviously without masks and without any kind of

1:00:57

social distancing.

1:00:58

That’s how they’re getting passes. Elsewhere, in

1:01:01

Volgograd — Volgograd is a well-known case.

1:01:04

It’s hard to find authorities as stupid as

1:01:08

the ones in Volgograd right now. I mean,

1:01:09

the governor there — of Volgograd Region — is

1:01:11

simply the very embodiment of an absolutely

1:01:17

stupid governor,

1:01:18

an alcoholic, and all the authorities below him are really

1:01:21

just a collection of degenerates and thieves. They reduced

1:01:24

the number of bus routes. Now

1:01:27

let’s take a look: they basically announced

1:01:29

self-isolation and then said, well, let’s also

1:01:33

send fewer buses out onto the streets

1:01:36

to save money on it. So now, what does

1:01:38

a trip on public

1:01:40

transport in the city look like? There’s a photo, and on

1:01:48

video too — here, the first bus

1:01:53

in half an hour, and it’s packed to the brim.

1:01:58

Only one bus. And this is their fight against coronavirus?

1:02:02

It’s simply outrageous. Volgograd,

1:02:07

morning, social distancing: 1 meter (about 3.3 feet).

1:02:13

That’s it.

1:02:16

Excellent work, guys — this is

1:02:19

a very concrete fight against the virus. It has simply become

1:02:23

just awful.

1:02:26

Just living

1:02:27

1:02:29

Volgograd is a city of over a million people, really.

1:02:32

Big cities are the highest-risk places, yet no —

1:02:34

they turned it into a death trap — literally

1:02:37

driving through the streets of Volgograd

1:02:39

in a little box,

1:02:40

spreading it around — a kind of incubator for the corona-

1:02:42

virus, with people standing this close

1:02:44

to each other,

1:02:45

breathing on one another, sniffling, coughing,

1:02:48

sneezing, and so on. Why do this

1:02:50

now, during an epidemic? But at the same time,

1:02:52

of course, I have no doubt that in Volgograd

1:02:55

it’s already like that there all the time —

1:02:56

police lawlessness. Our headquarters has run into it,

1:02:58

our people have run into it, I have

1:03:01

run into it, someone came there — I mean,

1:03:02

it’s this kind of unchecked police

1:03:06

power, and don’t doubt that of course there

1:03:09

they’ll be running around especially hard, punishing

1:03:12

someone or other. And these kinds of ideas have already

1:03:14

started across the country — whole

1:03:16

degenerate, idiotic raids in

1:03:18

Naberezhnye Chelny.

1:03:19

They go around, and they deliberately show people

1:03:23

videos of how police officers

1:03:25

and Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer safety watchdog) go door to door in apartment buildings and

1:03:27

check how the self-isolation regime

1:03:30

is being observed. Let’s watch.

1:03:33

[music]

1:03:55

[music]

1:04:08

[music]

1:04:29

And what music, did you notice? Some kind of action-movie soundtrack,

1:04:33

really.

1:04:34

And they show this on local

1:04:36

television as if it were some kind of achievement.

1:04:39

With this superhero-style music — they should also have added

1:04:41

a shot of the cop

1:04:43

putting on his uniform jacket, and this

1:04:46

girl from Rospotrebnadzor putting on

1:04:48

her cap and mask, and then they go off

1:04:50

to carry out their so-called heroic deeds.

1:04:52

What the hell is any of this even for?

1:04:54

And they happily show how a

1:04:56

police officer, without gloves,

1:04:58

presses the doorbell with his finger, and then

1:05:01

with that same finger he’ll scratch himself

1:05:03

and spread this coronavirus. ‘Are you observing

1:05:05

self-isolation?’ ‘We are observing self-isolation.’

1:05:07

‘Well, good, keep observing it, we’ll go on

1:05:10

to the next apartment.’ And they go around like this

1:05:12

during an epidemic, and it contradicts

1:05:15

absolutely every rule, every single one, and this

1:05:18

is being done from top to bottom. But to build

1:05:21

a digital prison — in the WHO recommendations, someone

1:05:24

wrote to me, a person who

1:05:25

understands this well — he says:

1:05:27

Alexei, you were discussing how Putin...

1:05:29

went to a hospital in Kommunarka (a Moscow district)...

1:05:32

The recommendations clearly state that

1:05:34

officials are prohibited from visiting

1:05:38

infectious disease hospitals — in other words, it is forbidden.

1:05:40

Officials have no business being there,

1:05:42

they are not supposed to go there, and that

1:05:45

makes sense, because we do not want an official

1:05:48

to get sick. Secondly,

1:05:49

an official is in contact with a large number of

1:05:51

people — an obvious

1:05:53

vector of transmission. Not to mention the fact that

1:05:54

when the president shows up at your hospital,

1:05:57

with the FSO (Federal Protective Service) and everyone else,

1:05:59

your hospital is paralyzed for half a day. Why do this?

1:06:02

And why do you expect everyone else

1:06:05

to follow the rules if you are either consistently

1:06:07

or deliberately not following them? In the case of

1:06:09

Putin, you are either doing that or doing unbelievably stupid

1:06:12

things. And what needs to be done

1:06:15

has been clear to everyone since January.

1:06:19

This has already been discussed all over the world,

1:06:22

in Europe it has been the main topic — a nightmare situation —

1:06:26

since the beginning of March. More or less, it has been clear

1:06:30

what needs to be done. But of course here we have to

1:06:35

do everything our own way, and first of all

1:06:36

through this kind of police-style approach.

1:06:38

And secondly,

1:06:39

we just have to lie endlessly. And this

1:06:42

lying, for example, simply

1:06:46

drives me into a state of shock, because

1:06:50

I am currently spending quite a lot of time

1:06:52

trying to understand

1:06:54

the problems in healthcare, because, as you know,

1:06:56

for a long time I — and in general the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) and Navalny Live —

1:07:00

have been helping the doctors’ union and

1:07:02

keeping track of all this. So this lying

1:07:04

about how our doctors are supposedly properly supplied with something

1:07:06

just drives me crazy. Today, 20

1:07:11

minutes before going on air,

1:07:12

I was reading the latest report from the Italian

1:07:15

government: in Italy, 10,000 doctors

1:07:18

have been infected with coronavirus, and of

1:07:21

those, 67 have died. This is a huge

1:07:25

problem.

1:07:25

Thousands of people have fallen ill in Spain; all over

1:07:27

the world this is a huge problem.

1:07:29

Doctors are a high-risk group, and they need

1:07:32

protective equipment. There is a shortage almost

1:07:34

everywhere, and governments in all countries

1:07:37

are constantly discussing it and appealing to

1:07:40

people for help. You see those videos

1:07:43

and news stories about one billionaire buying

1:07:45

masks, another billionaire buying masks — everyone

1:07:48

is allocating large amounts of money, and yet

1:07:50

only here everything is supposedly fine.

1:07:53

We are consistently being told that everything

1:07:55

is more or less okay, and that there is no such

1:07:59

situation where we need to hit

1:08:01

the red button. But the thing is — and

1:08:04

everyone knows this — in our country there are 3.5

1:08:07

million medical workers: doctors,

1:08:09

nurses, paramedics, orderlies, and so

1:08:11

on. And every one of you has

1:08:14

a medical worker among your acquaintances — a doctor you know,

1:08:16

an ambulance doctor,

1:08:17

so ask them about protective equipment.

1:08:19

They will just start laughing, because they are

1:08:21

literally sewing all this protective gear themselves right now,

1:08:23

and at the same time they have been told: sew it,

1:08:26

but keep quiet about it, and do not even think about

1:08:29

telling anyone anything. In that sense,

1:08:31

the Doctors’ Alliance — today, before going on air,

1:08:35

I was frantically trying

1:08:37

to help them spread information about the fact

1:08:39

that they had simply been detained.

1:08:41

At the same time, Putin was making his

1:08:44

address and saying, “We love

1:08:46

our doctors so much, thank you very much, doctors,” while

1:08:48

at the same time a shipment belonging to the Doctors’ Alliance

1:08:52

of purchased masks was stopped and seized on the road.

1:08:55

They were threatened, they were all detained — and as I understand it,

1:08:57

they are still being held

1:08:59

at the police station, at least

1:09:01

as of the start of this broadcast, because they

1:09:03

were detained for having raised money and

1:09:05

bought masks for their colleagues, who

1:09:09

had written asking, “Please bring us

1:09:11

masks, we cannot receive patients without

1:09:13

masks.” They set off to deliver them, and were stopped.

1:09:16

Officials were there — the deputy head

1:09:20

of the police for Novgorod Region

1:09:22

was present and giving orders. In other words,

1:09:24

it was a special operation against what? Against a campaign

1:09:27

that, well, would seem simply...

1:09:30

I understand that the Doctors’ Alliance may not

1:09:31

be liked by the authorities, because it is

1:09:33

a normal, classic trade union. It

1:09:36

says everything plainly and directly.

1:09:38

It is not afraid to cooperate with us, for example,

1:09:39

because we support them. But they cooperate

1:09:41

with everyone, and they announced

1:09:43

this fundraising campaign

1:09:45

for masks. Let’s watch a few

1:09:47

seconds of it — it is really great, and I

1:09:49

support it. I first donated 3,000

1:09:51

rubles, then when they were targeted the first

1:09:53

time, I sent another 1,000 rubles a week later.

1:09:55

After this police detention,

1:09:58

I will send more, and I urge everyone

1:09:59

to support them — and most importantly, to be their

1:10:01

information sponsor. Let’s

1:10:03

watch the video about their campaign.

1:10:04

Our medical trade union is launching

1:10:07

the largest medical public initiative in the country.

1:10:08

We will travel

1:10:11

across all of Russia

1:10:12

to inspect medical

1:10:14

facilities and deliver protective equipment

1:10:16

to healthcare workers where the state cannot

1:10:18

provide them with such protection. One of the

1:10:21

reasons for the catastrophe unfolding in Italy

1:10:23

is that at an early stage there,

1:10:25

many doctors contracted coronavirus, and

1:10:27

they infected their patients.

1:10:29

And this concerns all medical workers. We

1:10:32

represent a medical trade union, and we

1:10:33

are obliged to protect and provide for

1:10:36

safe working conditions for doctors and physicians

1:10:39

all across the country, people are now simply demanding from

1:10:41

us: come and see, show

1:10:44

everyone that we have nothing, that we cannot

1:10:46

abandon medical workers like this; our resources

1:10:49

are limited, but we will go and bring these

1:10:52

protective supplies

1:10:53

if our rich oil-producing state

1:10:55

is unable to provide doctors with them

1:10:57

on its own. First, we demand

1:11:00

that they be provided with full-fledged

1:11:02

international-standard protective equipment, our

1:11:04

medical workers

1:11:04

Second, we demand that there be a sufficient

1:11:08

amount of equipment, including machines for

1:11:10

oxygenation and artificial ventilation

1:11:12

of the lungs. Third, we demand that all

1:11:14

doctors, nurses, and paramedics

1:11:16

finally start being paid as much

1:11:19

as was promised in 2012. And lastly, on behalf of

1:11:22

all 40 branches of the Doctors’ Alliance trade union

1:11:25

I officially invite Vladimir

1:11:27

Putin to travel at least part of this

1:11:29

route together with us, especially since

1:11:32

you already have an excellent imported protective

1:11:34

suit. We guarantee that you will learn a lot

1:11:37

new about medicine in Russia. At the Kremlin

1:11:40

hospital

1:11:40

you definitely won’t see anything like this. I see

1:11:44

the news that has just come in: the mayor of Moscow

1:11:46

has postponed the introduction of a pass system

1:11:47

and says that the experience of the first week

1:11:49

has shown that for now there is no such need

1:11:51

most city residents are conscientiously

1:11:53

complying with the stay-at-home requirement. I think this is

1:11:54

exactly what I was talking about, and I think that

1:11:57

they will not introduce this system; they simply understand

1:11:58

that there would be a revolt. But come on—Moscow, 10

1:12:01

million people, many in rented apartments, in

1:12:04

very complicated relationships with one another

1:12:06

But look, I live in Moscow in a rented

1:12:09

apartment, and my parents live in the Moscow

1:12:11

region

1:12:12

They are elderly people, and under these

1:12:15

Sobyanin-style decrees, there is no provision

1:12:18

under which I can simply

1:12:19

go to my parents. At the same time, travel

1:12:21

from Moscow to the region is allowed, but you supposedly cannot

1:12:23

leave your home to do it. But obviously

1:12:26

if my parents need food

1:12:28

or something else, if something happens, then I

1:12:30

will break these rules and go, and

1:12:32

at the same time as me, one hundred or two hundred

1:12:35

thousand people will go too, because you simply cannot

1:12:37

just shut everything down

1:12:39

and control it all with the police

1:12:40

So it is the right decision that you

1:12:42

postponed the introduction of the pass system. But

1:12:45

I will just repeat my appeal to

1:12:48

Sobyanin: you are doing many things

1:12:52

right now correctly; many things

1:12:53

you simply cannot do. But if you do not

1:12:55

want to be criticized yet again,

1:12:57

then please follow these rules yourselves

1:13:01

Just follow all the rules that you

1:13:03

wrote. If you believe they are reasonable,

1:13:05

then follow them. Right, we have just

1:13:07

watched the appeal from this doctors’ union

1:13:09

and, well, it may seem that

1:13:13

it is somehow critical of the authorities

1:13:15

but that is exactly the same thing

1:13:17

that is happening right now all over the world. In

1:13:21

France, the nurses’ union has almost

1:13:23

declared a strike; in Italy, the union

1:13:26

of nurses also, I think, threatened

1:13:28

to strike; and in America, where

1:13:30

colossal amounts of money are allocated to

1:13:32

healthcare—in all countries where there is

1:13:33

a well-functioning system

1:13:34

medical workers curse the authorities in the strongest terms

1:13:38

and say that they do not have enough

1:13:40

protective equipment, well,

1:13:42

this is a normal situation, a completely normal

1:13:44

reaction from the state should be what? To say, no,

1:13:46

medical workers, guys, we love you so much, we will buy you everything

1:13:48

wealthy people are giving them something there, and in

1:13:50

the end, this matters to us, well

1:13:52

because a doctor anywhere at work—or rather, there sits

1:13:54

a female doctor in a clinic, and she does not have

1:13:56

a proper mask

1:13:57

some elderly woman comes to see her, coughs on her

1:13:59

and then this woman keeps sitting there. Or not a doctor—in

1:14:01

the reception desk, not a doctor, just

1:14:03

someone who is not a doctor either, sitting at

1:14:05

the reception desk

1:14:06

and infecting everyone who comes to her afterward

1:14:08

Of course, objectively, we are

1:14:10

interested in making sure that every doctor right now

1:14:13

first and foremost is so thoroughly

1:14:16

provided with protective equipment, with absolutely everything

1:14:18

because otherwise they become the main spreader

1:14:20

if something goes wrong, and the example of Italy shows us

1:14:23

that. In other words, this is absolutely

1:14:24

normal. And they started

1:14:28

raising money and collected 2 million

1:14:29

rubles, as I already said. And you cannot even

1:14:32

describe it without using the phrase: what

1:14:35

irony. At the same time, in his address, Putin

1:14:39

said the following words. Let us

1:14:40

listen to how he addresses doctors

1:14:45

Working under intense pressure, they continue to labor—

1:14:48

doctors, nurses, and the staff

1:14:53

of medical institutions. For all of them right now

1:14:56

it is very difficult. It is they, in hospitals and

1:15:01

infectious disease wards, in all

1:15:04

medical districts, who are holding the line against

1:15:07

the advancing epidemic, treating and saving people

1:15:13

preventing the emergence and development

1:15:15

of the disease. I am sure that all citizens of the country

1:15:20

will join in words of heartfelt

1:15:23

gratitude to our medical

1:15:25

workers

1:15:27

Seriously? Heartfelt gratitude? That is,

1:15:30

of course we absolutely join

1:15:33

in those words of heartfelt gratitude, only

1:15:35

will you join them or not?

1:15:37

Because in reality, at exactly the same

1:15:39

time, somewhere out on the road, simply

1:15:42

Here they are on the highway, on the way to Novgorod Oblast (a region of Russia).

1:15:45

Oblast.

1:15:45

A shipment from the Doctors' Alliance, who raised

1:15:49

our money—not budget funds, nothing from the state.

1:15:51

They raised a little—well, 2 million

1:15:53

rubles (about $21,000 USD), a laughably small amount, but still.

1:15:55

We were collecting for masks after hospitals

1:15:57

in Novgorod Oblast wrote to us

1:15:58

saying, "Come, bring us something," and

1:16:00

they set off; they put respirators on themselves

1:16:03

and took those masks there. What is happening?

1:16:06

At the same time, Putin is addressing doctors with

1:16:08

words of thanks, while the doctors, from the road,

1:16:10

are appealing to Putin, saying, "Guys,

1:16:12

let us through so we can deliver protective

1:16:14

equipment." Let's watch: "We appeal to the President

1:16:18

of Russia.

1:16:20

"So, Vladimir Vladimirovich,

1:16:21

you have a fine imported protective suit, but

1:16:24

medical workers have no personal protective equipment

1:16:26

at all. We collected money from all over the country

1:16:32

so we could bring this protective

1:16:34

equipment to the hospital, but here

1:16:36

your subordinates

1:16:38

and the police have stopped us and won't let us

1:16:41

do it. Apparently we'll have to

1:16:42

ask you personally for a pass so that

1:16:44

we can provide medical workers with protective equipment. We are

1:16:47

a medical trade union; it is our duty to do this,

1:16:49

but we are being obstructed.

1:16:51

If you have protective suits

1:16:52

and they don't, do something—at least allow

1:16:55

us to provide medical workers with protective

1:16:57

equipment."

1:17:00

And really, they have nothing.

1:17:02

Somewhere there in the hospital,

1:17:05

a doctor without a respirator is seeing patients,

1:17:08

and sooner or later, of course, he will infect

1:17:10

someone. I don't want him to infect anyone,

1:17:12

including because I don't want it

1:17:14

to eventually reach me, or

1:17:16

my family, or my fellow citizens. And so

1:17:19

I transferred 3,000 rubles (about $32 USD) so that

1:17:21

with my small contribution I could, well,

1:17:24

reduce the epidemic a little—for one

1:17:26

person, two people, I don't know, five

1:17:28

people, however many. They bought masks

1:17:30

and took them there.

1:17:31

A whole police operation—they're being stopped.

1:17:34

Watch these 53 seconds.

1:17:35

Just look at how they are being followed by flashing

1:17:38

police cars.

1:17:39

A huge number of people, all these cops,

1:17:41

were sent there so they could catch them and

1:17:43

stop the union from delivering these miserable

1:17:45

masks. "We're driving now, look,

1:17:51

we've got a whole convoy of traffic police cars. We can see two

1:17:55

cars behind us and one car over there

1:17:58

in the distance.

1:18:04

We're being escorted by the Interior Ministry. Instead of

1:18:07

accompanying us with the protective

1:18:09

equipment and helping deliver it to the hospital, they are

1:18:12

obstructing us. Apparently, at the Okulovka hospital

1:18:15

and at the ambulance station there is absolutely no

1:18:18

protective equipment, so we are being

1:18:20

accompanied by this kind of escort.

1:18:21

A very real one, and it is in fact preventing us

1:18:24

from delivering this protection so that we do not

1:18:26

show just how bad everything is there, how

1:18:27

awful it all is. Nevertheless, we

1:18:29

will of course get there now. I hope

1:18:32

the medical workers will meet us there and we will hand over all

1:18:33

the protective equipment to them. They are there, I

1:18:35

know, already waiting for us." I can see I'm being asked

1:18:42

a question: there has been a lot of news in Russia

1:18:44

about the Doctors' Alliance. Tell me, how are they going to

1:18:46

move around the country when

1:18:47

many regions won't even let people walk

1:18:49

outside without a valid reason, or at least

1:18:51

soon that will be the case? How will you

1:18:52

solve this problem? I don't know how they

1:18:54

will solve it. I mean, I'm trying

1:18:55

to solve this problem in this way:

1:18:58

I'm showing you these videos and I hope you

1:19:01

will be outraged and post on social

1:19:03

media, and that this will cause a scandal

1:19:05

and they will start being let through, because it's

1:19:07

not clear how else this problem can be solved.

1:19:09

Because

1:19:10

a medical trade union is, in effect,

1:19:13

a medical organization. Of course they

1:19:15

have every right under all current rules, and they

1:19:17

completed the paperwork, spent a lot of time

1:19:19

processing all the documents for the shipment, and they

1:19:23

have every right to transport it. Plus, they are

1:19:26

doctors—they know how to use

1:19:27

protective equipment, and their aims are absolutely

1:19:30

good. But they are being stopped. At the same time,

1:19:32

there was also a whole special operation

1:19:35

because in the hospitals

1:19:36

that started calling in the Doctors' Alliance

1:19:39

and saying, "Please bring us

1:19:41

masks," special people came there and

1:19:44

told them not to come—or rather, not to

1:19:46

take those masks from them, because those

1:19:48

masks were infected by Navalny. Let's watch.

1:20:07

Attack.

1:20:16

Navalny infected the masks, you understand.

1:20:18

So don't take them.

1:20:19

Okay, I infected the masks—well then

1:20:21

fine, please give them masks

1:20:24

that Putin infected with his, I don't know,

1:20:26

antibacterial powers or some kind of

1:20:28

holiness, or whatever, I don't know,

1:20:31

or maybe the Patriarch of All Rus' (head of the Russian Orthodox Church) sprinkled them with something.

1:20:34

Bring them some normal

1:20:36

masks if you don't like the masks

1:20:38

and protective equipment that the Doctors' Alliance is supplying.

1:20:40

Doctors.

1:20:40

But they aren't bringing anything at all—really, they aren't.

1:20:42

And I want this

1:20:47

to be discussed much more, because

1:20:49

no real measures against the epidemic

1:20:53

can be taken. Everything we're being

1:20:56

told is nonsense as long as

1:20:59

doctors have no protective equipment. Watch

1:21:01

30 seconds of women from the ambulance service

1:21:03

receiving these miserable masks and speaking.

1:21:06

Thank you very much, we have nothing—36

1:21:08

seconds.

1:21:09

Today, Alliance arrived to help us with

1:21:12

humanitarian aid—they brought masks, goggles,

1:21:17

protective gowns,

1:21:20

gloves, disinfectants. Many thanks to them

1:21:23

for the help they provided, because the hospital

1:21:27

is short of everything, really everything.

1:21:30

There aren't enough masks—you can't buy them in pharmacies.

1:21:33

We are very grateful to you for

1:21:38

the information about crowdfunding for

1:21:41

humanitarian aid, and we wish you

1:21:44

all the best.

1:21:46

This is a nightmare, a real nightmare.

1:21:49

This very kind woman from the ambulance service

1:21:51

is saying thank you for

1:21:52

the humanitarian aid. My God.

1:21:55

Trillions earned from the sale of oil

1:21:58

and gas—trillions—and you maintain the National Guard (Rosgvardiya)

1:22:01

with a force of 340,000 people,

1:22:04

and yet an ambulance doctor has to say,

1:22:07

"Thank you for the humanitarian aid." To her,

1:22:09

thank you, and thanks to Alliance, and well done to everyone

1:22:12

who donated whatever money they could.

1:22:13

In Moscow, an ambulance doctor—

1:22:15

the kind who gets dispatched directly on calls to

1:22:18

a patient with non-hospital pneumonia—

1:22:21

and who then has to deal with that patient

1:22:23

without a mask. What happens next?

1:22:25

Why can't we do this? I

1:22:28

of course really want the whole

1:22:31

country

1:22:32

127,000 people are watching us right now

1:22:34

live.

1:22:35

Let's talk about this seriously.

1:22:38

Let's put pressure on our authorities too.

1:22:40

This is peanuts, but these are expenses

1:22:43

that could simply be covered tomorrow, just like that.

1:22:45

The money could be spent, and right now there is already fairly

1:22:48

large-scale production in the world—you can buy all this.

1:22:50

We're sending everything to America; I'll say more about that

1:22:52

later. We can't provide our own doctors

1:22:54

with what they need. There is no real fight against the corona-

1:22:57

virus, and enough lying about it. As long as

1:23:00

people are sewing masks themselves, as long as doctors

1:23:04

are sewing masks themselves, as long as we are not providing them

1:23:08

with them—and on top of that, they are hiding

1:23:10

the fact that there is nothing, and they are stopping ordinary people

1:23:12

from supplying them—this is all just

1:23:15

truly absolutely infuriating. Here are the poll

1:23:19

results—let's put up the results

1:23:20

of the poll for those who have just

1:23:22

joined us. I want to say that I started

1:23:26

the program by saying: let's find out who

1:23:28

is actually spreading fake news. And our

1:23:30

consumer watchdog, Rospotrebnadzor, first of all claims that

1:23:32

it has conducted 560,000 tests for

1:23:37

coronavirus in total, and Prime Minister

1:23:38

Mishustin said that 36,000

1:23:40

tests are being carried out every day, and

1:23:42

so I simply asked whether

1:23:44

among your acquaintances there is anyone who has undergone

1:23:48

this testing and gotten a result. Show it again.

1:23:51

There—you see, 94 percent

1:23:54

of people—after all, 23,000, no, 24,000

1:23:58

people took part in the vote—

1:24:00

94 percent do not know anyone

1:24:02

who has been tested. That means

1:24:04

there is no testing—it's a complete lie. And

1:24:07

it seems to me that with this main

1:24:11

point in mind, we should move on to discussing

1:24:15

what Putin said today, and it

1:24:17

was, of course, an astonishing address. I mean,

1:24:23

Putin disappeared. He announced this

1:24:26

strange non-working week, after which

1:24:27

he vanished—he wasn't seen for several days.

1:24:30

Journalists from TV Rain (an independent Russian TV channel) did an interesting

1:24:33

investigation showing that over the last

1:24:35

week, all of Putin's video appearances

1:24:38

were clearly canned, pre-recorded footage.

1:24:40

He disappeared, and it's unclear what's going on. I mean,

1:24:43

Sobyanin seems to be saying something,

1:24:44

Mishustin is making statements, some kind of

1:24:47

nonsense is being spouted, different people in

1:24:51

different regions are, well, doing something,

1:24:52

taking these strange measures. The thing is,

1:24:55

in Chechnya they basically blocked the roads entirely,

1:24:57

not letting anyone out. I mean, it's clear

1:24:59

that Chechnya

1:24:59

is a state within a state, I mean,

1:25:01

but still,

1:25:04

regional authorities are doing things—it's

1:25:06

all very strange. A very curious

1:25:08

announcement is being broadcast in Chechnya from

1:25:12

the minarets of mosques. If we have the

1:25:15

video, let's play it, to show how

1:25:18

they are trying to handle this at the regional

1:25:19

level.

1:25:44

[music]

1:25:49

Fear—and we will enforce it, and there will be fear.

1:25:52

Well, in Chechnya it can't be any other way, I mean,

1:25:54

everyone is doing their own thing; overall

1:25:56

nothing is clear. In one region it's one thing, in

1:25:58

another it's something else.

1:25:59

They announced a non-working week, then

1:26:01

they announced self-isolation. Who is going to pay for it?

1:26:04

It's not clear. Just look:

1:26:06

Moscow has announced self-isolation. Here

1:26:09

there are simply huge numbers of people who

1:26:11

are not working—people in small businesses,

1:26:13

I won't even list them all here,

1:26:15

there are probably tens, maybe a couple hundred thousand

1:26:17

taxi drivers, people in food service,

1:26:21

waitresses, cooks, and so on.

1:26:23

They're earning zero. I don't know, there are several

1:26:25

hundred thousand people, and so on and so forth.

1:26:27

In small business, medium-sized business, even in

1:26:29

large business that isn't state-owned—what are they supposed to

1:26:32

do? Where is the money supposed to come from? It's not clear. I mean,

1:26:35

at the same time, everyone is looking at the experience

1:26:37

of other countries. Other countries are saying

1:26:40

things like: in the U.S., they said it's a crisis, it's a problem, everything

1:26:44

is terrible, everyone is criticizing Trump, and Trump responds

1:26:46

by saying: we're going to spend 20 percent of GDP

1:26:48

—an absolutely enormous sum—

1:26:52

to help the economy. In different

1:26:55

countries it's 10 percent of GDP, 15 percent

1:26:58

of GDP—that is, trillions of dollars.

1:27:00

Hundreds of billions of dollars will be

1:27:03

handed out to support the economy, and in the

1:27:06

end, that also means simply giving money to people for nothing.

1:27:07

Paying people directly. Here, I wrote 20,000

1:27:10

rubles for each person. I put this proposal forward

1:27:12

deliberately, because the same

1:27:13

Putin is always showing off on

1:27:15

television and saying that we have no constructive

1:27:17

plan. I do have a constructive plan. I

1:27:20

am asking you to support it. And my

1:27:22

constructive plan is not something I

1:27:23

came up with by sitting around and imagining myself a genius.

1:27:26

For this constructive plan, I gathered

1:27:28

several smart people and said, let’s

1:27:30

analyze what has worked in

1:27:32

different countries, and we wrote a plan

1:27:35

that consists of two parts. The first is

1:27:36

what needs to be done to fight the epidemic.

1:27:39

It states very clearly there: a quarantine

1:27:41

that actually works. It is already known that

1:27:43

quarantine works, while these idiotic

1:27:45

“non-working weeks” and months do not.

1:27:48

Quarantine, providing protective equipment

1:27:50

for doctors, because every country has

1:27:53

figured out that this is what needs to be done.

1:27:55

Testing.

1:27:56

Not lying about testing volumes.

1:27:59

Look at how it works in South Korea:

1:28:01

these phone-booth-like stations are set up all across the

1:28:03

country. Look at a booth in South Korea.

1:28:05

This is how it all works: you

1:28:08

feel unwell, or you have simply been in

1:28:10

contact with someone, and you go to one of these

1:28:12

booths.

1:28:13

You get tested. In many

1:28:15

countries, people drive up in their cars, and so that

1:28:18

they are not just wandering around there,

1:28:19

they pull up in a car,

1:28:21

roll down the window, open their mouth, and with a swab

1:28:24

they take the sample, record your number, and send you

1:28:26

the result. Mass testing

1:28:28

makes it possible to identify infected people

1:28:31

and isolate them. In other words, if you

1:28:33

are just sitting at home right now and feeling

1:28:35

unwell, and you are a conscientious person,

1:28:37

you have self-isolated. You probably

1:28:41

do not think you have coronavirus, but

1:28:42

if you knew—and your relatives knew—

1:28:44

that you had the virus, even despite the fact

1:28:46

that you are not dying and do not

1:28:47

need a ventilator, you would treat it a little differently.

1:28:50

That is true. Every country has

1:28:52

figured this out, and that is why they are massively

1:28:54

testing people. And Putin should come out and

1:28:57

say: our priority is testing.

1:29:01

Right now, we are not doing very well with it yet,

1:29:03

but we will invest a huge amount of

1:29:06

money, we will buy Korean technology,

1:29:09

we will buy Israeli technology, maybe

1:29:11

we even have something of our own—fine, embellish it a little,

1:29:13

say that we have our own

1:29:14

Russian technology—but in three weeks

1:29:16

testing stations will be standing out on the streets, and we will be testing everyone.

1:29:19

He does not say that. Instead, he

1:29:21

moreover, we still have this idea

1:29:24

that mass testing is unnecessary, even though

1:29:27

every country has found that mass

1:29:29

testing is necessary. Next, when we

1:29:31

come to the issue of money—well, the experience of countries like

1:29:34

the United States, Germany, Canada, and the United Kingdom—this is

1:29:39

simply a normal, ordinary idea:

1:29:41

the state has money, and that

1:29:45

money came from people paying

1:29:47

taxes. Right now, people are genuinely in a very bad way.

1:29:50

A huge number of people are unemployed,

1:29:53

without work, without wages, in apartments where

1:29:56

they live

1:29:56

with a whole crowd of others—your

1:29:59

divorced wife or divorced husband,

1:30:01

a paralyzed grandmother lying in the other

1:30:03

room, everyone renting some kind of room,

1:30:06

and there is no money, and it is unclear what to do.

1:30:08

And utility bills and housing charges (ZhKKh) still come every month,

1:30:11

and you still have to pay 6,000 to 9,000

1:30:12

rubles for them. People are saying: guys,

1:30:16

make this a little easier for us. And so

1:30:19

all countries are saying: of course, because you

1:30:21

we are your government,

1:30:23

you paid taxes, this is your money,

1:30:25

so now we will help you. For example, in

1:30:27

Spain, people were exempted from paying rent,

1:30:30

and it was even forbidden for

1:30:32

six months to evict people from their apartments.

1:30:35

There is, of course, another side to this,

1:30:37

because people who live off

1:30:39

renting out apartments in Moscow—

1:30:41

there are a million people renting housing there, and

1:30:43

a million people renting it out—so

1:30:46

we need somehow to let these people not

1:30:48

pay rent, while helping those landlords a little,

1:30:50

in other words, to balance it, because

1:30:51

it is hard for people.

1:30:53

And this is their money. This is their oil and

1:30:58

gas. We have this rainy-day fund, just so

1:31:00

everyone understands how it works: there is a fund,

1:31:03

the National Wealth Fund,

1:31:05

which contains 123 billion

1:31:08

dollars—that is 10 trillion rubles.

1:31:11

And we keep constantly building up this fund, and

1:31:14

we would also constantly spend this fund

1:31:16

during crises, as in 2008

1:31:20

and 2014, when almost nothing was left in it,

1:31:22

because where did we give it away?

1:31:24

To oligarchs and large enterprises. In other words,

1:31:26

every time, during every crisis, we still

1:31:28

hand out all this money anyway, we still

1:31:30

hand out all this money because

1:31:31

Deripaska (Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska) is having a hard time.

1:31:33

The price of aluminum has fallen, so Deripaska suddenly

1:31:35

needs money—here you go, Deripaska,

1:31:37

have a billion. Give money to this one,

1:31:40

give money to that one, give some to Usmanov (Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov), give some to another,

1:31:42

because supposedly industry must be supported.

1:31:43

Factories. But now a situation has developed in which

1:31:46

ordinary people have suffered first and foremost—

1:31:48

a specific guy like Petya,

1:31:51

who worked as a waiter, whose café

1:31:53

has closed, there is no revenue there, and Petya

1:31:56

No one will be able to pay wages because

1:31:57

the manager, the owner of this café,

1:31:59

has the same problem. All small businesses

1:32:01

could go bankrupt; there’s no money to pay salaries.

1:32:04

That little café, Romashka,

1:32:07

is located in rented premises in an expensive— not Moscow,

1:32:09

but Novosibirsk— location, and he still has to pay rent

1:32:12

because no one

1:32:14

has allowed him not to pay rent, and

1:32:16

so it all goes down the chain: the owner

1:32:19

of Romashka, Kolya, the waiter Petya, and his wife,

1:32:23

the waitress, their child— they’re all

1:32:25

left without money, and they’re waiting— that is,

1:32:28

they still have to pay rent for their

1:32:30

room or apartment.

1:32:31

They also have to pay for utilities,

1:32:33

they have to buy food, and they think, well,

1:32:35

maybe Putin will come out now and say

1:32:38

— maybe not exactly what Navalny calculated,

1:32:40

when he said that everyone should be paid—

1:32:42

I insist that right now, immediately,

1:32:44

everyone should receive 20,000 rubles

1:32:46

per adult and 10,000 rubles per child

1:32:49

(about 220 and 110 US dollars, respectively). It’s not a large sum, but we would at least

1:32:51

achieve something with it: over the course of a month,

1:32:54

right up to the end of April, people would not

1:32:57

go out of their minds. They would at least know,

1:32:59

I have money to buy food.

1:33:00

Because right now we really have

1:33:03

millions of people in this country sitting

1:33:06

there right now thinking, damn, where can I borrow

1:33:09

money just to buy pasta?

1:33:12

And these are ordinary people, not some alcoholics,

1:33:14

not some kind of outcasts— normal, decent

1:33:16

people, you know, just regular folks.

1:33:18

They’re the middle class, with salaries of 17,000 rubles

1:33:21

(about 185 US dollars), and we’re waiting for Putin to say something

1:33:24

about this, because all

1:33:26

normal countries have allocated money; our

1:33:28

people have suffered. So what does he end up saying?

1:33:30

Let’s listen. And Putin, who

1:33:32

first thanked the doctors, then

1:33:35

announced a non-working month, and then

1:33:37

said— well, he extended it, and note

1:33:40

this— “and one more very important detail.”

1:33:42

And when I was listening to Putin’s address,

1:33:44

and he said, “one more very important detail,” I thought, well,

1:33:46

now, surely— damn it— even if just for the sake of his ratings,

1:33:48

to show he cares about you, he’ll say now:

1:33:50

“we will allocate at least something to everyone.” But let’s see.

1:33:53

As virology experts believe, the peak

1:33:57

of the epidemic worldwide has not yet passed, including

1:34:00

in our country. Therefore, I have

1:34:05

decided to extend

1:34:07

the non-working period until the end of the month,

1:34:11

that is, through April 30 inclusive,

1:34:15

while emphasizing that employees will retain

1:34:17

their wages. As we implement measures to combat

1:34:20

the epidemic, we must not forget that

1:34:23

it is equally important now to preserve

1:34:26

jobs and citizens’ incomes.

1:34:29

This is a shared priority for the government,

1:34:33

the regions, and business. An effective and stable

1:34:38

economy

1:34:40

is the foundation for solving our key

1:34:42

tasks, including those in the field of

1:34:44

healthcare.

1:34:47

Dear citizens of Russia, I ask you to continue

1:34:51

to pay the utmost attention

1:34:55

to the authorities’ requirements and the recommendations

1:34:58

of doctors and specialists.

1:35:00

Take care of yourselves and your loved ones. Extremely

1:35:04

important— and in some cases decisive— have been and

1:35:07

remain our shared responsibility and

1:35:10

mutual support.

1:35:12

Even this short period of the past week has shown

1:35:15

that when we understand the seriousness of the situation,

1:35:18

we are able to reduce the risks.

1:35:21

I am confident that we will continue to act

1:35:25

in the same coordinated and reliable way, and most importantly,

1:35:29

proactively.

1:35:31

Thank you for your attention.

1:35:34

Stay healthy.

1:35:38

What was especially damn impressive was the part about

1:35:40

“mutual support.” With those intonations, like,

1:35:41

you know— as if

1:35:43

it was in bold in his teleprompter:

1:35:44

“mutual support,” and especially, let’s hear it for

1:35:48

mutual support. “We ask you to pay the utmost attention

1:35:50

to the recommendations

1:35:52

of the authorities.” And people look at him and say: we’ve

1:35:54

already done our part. We’ve paid taxes our whole

1:35:57

lives. An emergency has happened— objectively, it’s an

1:35:59

emergency situation,

1:36:02

plain and simple.

1:36:03

Give us our taxes back so that we can

1:36:05

survive.

1:36:06

Normally— because we need to go buy

1:36:09

food, because prices are rising, and we have to pay for housing,

1:36:11

we have to pay utilities, we have to pay.

1:36:13

So here’s another measure I propose:

1:36:15

let’s introduce a moratorium on utility payments— people shouldn’t have

1:36:18

to pay money for that. If you introduced a moratorium,

1:36:20

a person would save 6,000 rubles (about 65 US dollars) at least.

1:36:23

But there’s absolutely no money for that, zero. And moreover,

1:36:26

this is even official: if in other

1:36:28

countries it’s 20 percent of GDP, 15

1:36:30

percent of GDP, 10 percent of GDP, here it is

1:36:32

less than one percent of GDP

1:36:34

that is going to support the economy, business, and

1:36:37

people. Here Tatyana asks me,

1:36:40

why doesn’t Putin declare a quarantine?

1:36:41

A state of emergency— what would be the benefit of that?

1:36:45

Aleksandra Khrapko asks:

1:36:47

“Alexei, why do you think Putin

1:36:48

won’t introduce a state of emergency?”

1:36:51

Another viewer asks: “Alexei, why does Putin

1:36:54

make decisions that do not

1:36:55

help the population and only make things worse?” He

1:36:58

is not introducing a state of emergency

1:37:02

because, if you look at the laws and read them,

1:37:04

a state of emergency means that

1:37:06

someone can shout through a loudspeaker outside your window:

1:37:08

“This is a state of emergency,”

1:37:11

and that means

1:37:11

“stay home,” after which you are obliged

1:37:14

to remain at home, and the state is

1:37:17

obliged to compensate you for all losses.

1:37:20

That’s why they are not declaring a state of emergency

1:37:23

and are calling a real quarantine

1:37:26

by different names, because they do not

1:37:29

want to pay you, because Putin

1:37:31

believes that these 10 trillion rubles

1:37:35

in the reserve fund, the National

1:37:37

Wealth Fund, are his

1:37:39

and his friends’ national treasure. So aid

1:37:42

will go to some Rotenberg or Timchenko (wealthy businessmen close to the Kremlin),

1:37:44

and all the others will get theirs, and they will

1:37:47

launch some giant construction projects where

1:37:48

half the money will be stolen. I mean, they will

1:37:50

finance another film like *The Crimean Bridge*

1:37:52

and steal plenty of money on that too, while you

1:37:54

are supposedly entitled to nothing. But I see

1:37:56

someone here—yes, Mikhail

1:37:59

Rachkovsky writes correctly: “Alexei, my father

1:38:01

was sent home into quarantine, with no

1:38:03

pay at all, because the company is private.”

1:38:05

They told him: let Putin pay out of his own pocket.

1:38:07

And now he’ll be sitting at home until

1:38:08

the end of the month with no money. What should he do, and who

1:38:10

should he turn to? They said,

1:38:13

let Putin pay—so turn to Putin. You simply

1:38:15

must not stay silent about this. I

1:38:17

believe the whole country should now

1:38:20

rise up on its hind legs.

1:38:22

Now, I do not mean: let’s go hold rallies.

1:38:24

I mean, really, every single person

1:38:26

should keep saying: we demand

1:38:29

that money be paid to us from that very

1:38:32

National Wealth Fund.

1:38:33

Again, it has been spent over and over

1:38:36

to support oligarchs many times. Give

1:38:39

people money now, because people have earned

1:38:42

that money, and they put it

1:38:44

there themselves. I mean, really,

1:38:45

how can you ask a

1:38:48

private company to pay wages while someone sits at home for a month?

1:38:50

The business owner will tell you:

1:38:52

“I don’t have the money, my friend.

1:38:53

You work for me, I value you very much, and

1:38:55

everything is fine, but there’s no revenue. Understand—where

1:38:57

am I supposed to get the money? I can’t even sell anything,

1:39:00

because the business has come to a complete

1:39:02

stop. There’s nothing.” They genuinely

1:39:05

do not care at all, and their calculation is exactly

1:39:08

this: they do not want to support you. They

1:39:11

want to control all the money, and they

1:39:13

want to control this police

1:39:15

machine, keep everyone in fear, and simply

1:39:19

wait for it to pass on its own. Putin,

1:39:21

by the way, already understands very well

1:39:23

his personal responsibility for what

1:39:25

is happening right now—his personal

1:39:26

responsibility. Let’s remember how

1:39:28

quite recently this man lied, saying

1:39:32

that the danger of the coronavirus

1:39:35

was all fake.

1:39:36

that it was all being sent to us from abroad.

1:39:38

[Putin clip: “fake…”]

1:39:41

As for these planted stories,

1:39:43

the FSB reports that these provocations

1:39:45

are mainly organized from abroad, but

1:39:48

unfortunately this is something we always face.

1:39:51

The purpose of such reports is obvious: to sow

1:39:54

panic, panic among the population.

1:39:58

You understand—to sow panic among the population.

1:40:00

What was being called “fake” was simply objective

1:40:03

statistics, and everyone was saying—lots of

1:40:05

people were saying: look, since March 2

1:40:09

there has been quarantine all across Europe; it will come

1:40:12

to you too, and before you know it

1:40:13

the roads will be closed, and you will

1:40:16

be sitting at home—how will you sit at home

1:40:18

without money? So they needed to start doing

1:40:21

something right away. They did nothing.

1:40:22

You say something—and it’s called fake. That mustached creep named

1:40:26

Dmitry Peskov said on March 26:

1:40:28

“The only thing I want to remind you of,”

1:40:31

said the president’s press secretary, “is that we

1:40:33

de facto do not have an epidemic. That is thanks to the

1:40:36

measures that were taken in advance

1:40:38

by our government, and

1:40:39

thanks to that effective system of, damn,

1:40:42

countering the coronavirus that

1:40:44

was created in the Russian Federation. For now, the president

1:40:45

is proceeding from that assumption.” In other words, there’s nothing.

1:40:49

There are no masks, the country is basically unprepared for

1:40:53

anything, there are no ventilators, there is nothing—and yet they

1:40:56

come out and say

1:40:57

there is no epidemic, while all over the world it is obvious that everything

1:41:00

will reach Russia too, and everything

1:41:02

will have to be shut down. And this man comes out—

1:41:04

he is the president’s press secretary, he is

1:41:05

shown on Channel One, and he says:

1:41:07

well,

1:41:07

“de facto there is no epidemic thanks to those

1:41:10

great measures that were taken.” And now

1:41:12

they do not want to pay anyone.

1:41:14

So of course everyone should rise up.

1:41:16

Everyone should be outraged, simply—

1:41:18

just talk to each other, write

1:41:20

on social media. Putin must

1:41:22

feel that a revolution could happen in the country

1:41:24

if they finally do not

1:41:26

pay people what they are supposed to be paid,

1:41:28

what is being paid all over the world. This is what

1:41:31

really works at a time like this. There is

1:41:33

this argument that it is populism.

1:41:35

Like, you say: pay everyone

1:41:37

20,000 rubles and 10,000 rubles per child

1:41:39

because that’s just some populist nonsense.

1:41:41

It is not populist nonsense.

1:41:43

If even highly capitalist

1:41:46

countries are doing it, that’s the first point. And second,

1:41:48

people need this money so they can

1:41:50

receive it and go spend it in stores,

1:41:52

not so they can spend it, you know, in

1:41:54

casinos or on some luxury hotel getaway

1:41:56

or entertainment or something like that. I mean,

1:41:58

most people are not going to buy

1:42:01

a Netflix subscription or anything like that.

1:42:03

Most people will spend it on

1:42:06

their children, in order to survive right now,

1:42:08

because expenses are high. Today I saw—and

1:42:10

they probably did not prepare this slide—but I saw

1:42:12

it for real.

1:42:14

What also infuriated me was *Rossiyskaya Gazeta* (the Russian government newspaper).

1:42:16

It’s the government’s official newspaper, and they

1:42:17

published this unbelievably tone-deaf article

1:42:20

saying that studies showed that being in

1:42:23

self-isolation helps everyone

1:42:25

save 3,000 rubles (about $30–35). Seriously.

1:42:28

What brazen scoundrels.

1:42:29

I mean, the whole country is sitting there with no money, and they

1:42:31

say, wow, how great—you can just sit it out

1:42:33

and you have no expenses. You’re not going anywhere, you’re not

1:42:37

buying yourself, I don’t know, a leopard-print fur coat

1:42:39

because you have nowhere to wear it,

1:42:41

so thanks to self-isolation you’ve really

1:42:43

saved a lot. But people—

1:42:45

I’ll repeat it like a parrot, I keep saying it, but

1:42:47

still, a huge number of people, especially

1:42:50

outside Moscow, and many within

1:42:52

Moscow too, are in a quiet or very loud

1:42:54

state of horror because they have no money

1:42:57

and no one to borrow from, because everyone is in the same

1:43:00

situation: no money, no work.

1:43:03

Businesses, businesses are going bankrupt.

1:43:05

Tomorrow half of them will collapse—if, say,

1:43:07

restaurants, venues, any businesses

1:43:09

have to pay all that rent

1:43:11

while doing no business at all for

1:43:13

two months, then of course they’ll all

1:43:15

go bankrupt. The whole world understands this, and

1:43:17

everywhere they’re giving people some money. Only here

1:43:20

those 10 trillion from our oil and

1:43:24

gas revenues somehow aren’t for us; we’re apparently

1:43:26

not entitled to a single thing from them. Now they

1:43:28

say they’ll pay out—I don’t even know whether they’ll

1:43:31

actually pay what they’re supposed to pay.

1:43:32

Right now it’s 20,000 rubles per person (about $220), and then

1:43:34

10,000 rubles (about $110), then 10,000 in May, 10,000 in June—but they

1:43:37

will only pay at all if the whole

1:43:39

country demands it from them. Otherwise they won’t

1:43:43

do anything, and they won’t lift a finger for

1:43:46

a second, they won’t stir at all until

1:43:49

they feel that by tomorrow

1:43:51

their approval rating will be at zero. So whether you love

1:43:54

Putin or don’t love Putin, you need to understand

1:43:56

that in the National Wealth Fund

1:43:58

there is at least a small share of your money, and that

1:44:02

money has to be demanded every day. Then

1:44:04

they’ll return it. But while we stay silent, this

1:44:07

nonsense keeps happening—like this story about aid to the U.S.,

1:44:10

which of course made everyone furious.

1:44:13

It made me furious too, and for almost two hours now

1:44:16

live on air, I—I just can’t not

1:44:18

talk about it, because

1:44:19

I saw that many people reproached me

1:44:21

when I criticized the aid to Italy. My point was:

1:44:24

fine, send some medical

1:44:26

masks to Italy—even though we don’t have enough here—and some kind of

1:44:28

equipment.

1:44:29

They sent it, and I spoke out against it. Many people

1:44:31

wrote, “Come on, Navalny, you’re acting

1:44:33

like a petty, small-minded person. We

1:44:35

should help Italy.”

1:44:37

There’s a huge problem there, and all of this

1:44:41

is very good.

1:44:41

The Italians appreciate it—sure, it’s a kind of

1:44:43

demonstrative diplomatic gesture.

1:44:46

It turned out later that all of it was completely

1:44:50

useless, because it was basically junk.

1:44:51

But still, from the Italians’ point of view, a plane arrived

1:44:55

from Russia. On TV they said,

1:44:57

“Even Russia sent a plane with

1:45:00

masks,” and the Italians say,

1:45:03

“Grazie, thank you very much, that’s very kind.”

1:45:06

“Russian people, you love us, and we won’t

1:45:08

forget it.” All of that is very nice, but

1:45:11

okay, and in exchange Putin supposedly

1:45:14

wants sanctions lifted. Of course, the sanctions

1:45:15

won’t be lifted. But what’s happening now

1:45:17

with aid to the U.S. takes this to another level—

1:45:19

it just looks insane.

1:45:22

So, the U.S. is an enormous, super-rich

1:45:27

country with many problems, where of course there aren’t enough

1:45:30

ventilators, but where there are

1:45:32

still incomparably more of them than here in any

1:45:35

case. And hospitals there—I mean, a hospital in the U.S. and

1:45:39

a hospital in Russia, despite the fact that

1:45:41

healthcare is a complicated, contentious

1:45:44

policy area that everyone debates in the U.S.—

1:45:46

still, comparing any hospital in the U.S. with

1:45:49

even the very best hospital in Russia is simply

1:45:52

impossible, let alone a regional one.

1:45:54

There’s video of a person lying in

1:45:57

an infectious disease ward with coronavirus in North

1:45:59

Ossetia. Let’s watch a few seconds of it.

1:46:03

It looks like something out of wartime footage.

1:46:54

If you showed that video to the Americans

1:46:56

we’re sending aid to, they’d

1:46:58

be stunned and just send it all

1:47:01

back, maybe with a little bread tucked in

1:47:03

or something else, I don’t know, because

1:47:05

this is just a nightmare.

1:47:06

We have nothing. Officially, in our

1:47:10

Moscow Health Department guidelines, it says

1:47:13

that coronavirus should be treated with Kagocel,

1:47:15

which is what doctors call a fake remedy,

1:47:17

basically quack medicine.

1:47:17

It’s a bogus, nonexistent drug

1:47:21

that, by the way, Chubais started

1:47:22

producing and called some kind of

1:47:24

great achievement of Russian nanotechnology.

1:47:28

Our doctors—I’ll show you right now, actually,

1:47:30

a fairly long clip, 2 minutes

1:47:32

18 seconds, where they’re practically

1:47:35

shouting at the top of their lungs that God will punish those

1:47:39

who include Kagocel in recommendations for treating

1:47:42

coronavirus.

1:47:43

That’s our government for you: they have nothing else.

1:47:45

Run-down hospitals, no protective

1:47:48

equipment, Kagocel that we’re supposedly offering

1:47:51

to treat people with—and meanwhile we’re sending aid

1:47:52

to America. Here are 2 minutes 18 seconds about the

1:47:55

recommendations of the

1:47:57

Moscow Health Department, in the richest

1:47:59

city in Russia.

1:48:01

It just pains me. May I ask a question?

1:48:04

You just mentioned the recommendations

1:48:07

of the Health Ministry.

1:48:07

Over the past couple of days, we’ve been seeing this kind of

1:48:11

surge on social media, with authors...

1:48:13

of the methodological guide

1:48:14

published a list of immune-boosting

1:48:17

drugs that supposedly provide mass prevention against

1:48:21

coronavirus. Please, I really want to

1:48:25

ask you to share your opinion

1:48:27

about the fact that Moscow included itself in

1:48:30

the honorable list together with Pushkin Hospital

1:48:31

and the Ministry of Health. This is, overall,

1:48:34

despite the fact that Moscow has been

1:48:36

responding to the epidemic fairly successfully

1:48:38

of coronavirus, a shameful page in the

1:48:42

history of Moscow healthcare.

1:48:43

Recommendations for drugs that affect

1:48:46

the immune system — all these unproven

1:48:48

homeopathic remedies that

1:48:50

are known for biased clinical

1:48:52

studies, supported by

1:48:54

some dubious figures with

1:48:56

titles and regalia — it’s disgraceful.

1:48:58

This goes against federal recommendations.

1:49:01

A local recommendation

1:49:04

may possibly have

1:49:06

local significance.

1:49:07

But this is not some local matter.

1:49:09

This is Moscow.

1:49:10

This is visible in advance, this is out in the open,

1:49:14

people see it, you understand? This is not normal.

1:49:16

This is categorically

1:49:18

a gross violation of medical ethics.

1:49:21

I cannot recall in my entire career a case where

1:49:24

people went so far as to make money

1:49:26

on blood. This is blood money. People who

1:49:30

come in — first of all, they will spend their own

1:49:32

last bits of money, clearing these drugs off the shelves.

1:49:33

They will think they are

1:49:36

protected by taking these drugs. This may

1:49:39

delay a patient’s visit to the doctor and

1:49:43

let the situation worsen, causing them to miss pneumonia.

1:49:46

I think that if there is any justice,

1:49:50

then these people will be among the very first

1:49:53

to end up there. They

1:49:55

know perfectly well that these drugs do not

1:49:57

work. Everyone knows they don’t work. If

1:50:00

they did work, then right now

1:50:03

China would be using them, absolutely.

1:50:06

They are ineffective. There are no grounds

1:50:09

for saying that such drugs as

1:50:12

homeopathic remedies, Kagocel, Ingavirin,

1:50:15

or Arbidol have any basis whatsoever

1:50:18

for being considered effective. None.

1:50:21

That was the opinion of the well-known doctor

1:50:23

Yaroslav Ashikhmin. In other words, a doctor

1:50:25

is already saying, you understand,

1:50:27

that the people who do this will burn in hell.

1:50:29

That is, we have nothing,

1:50:31

yet we have Kagocel in the recommendations,

1:50:33

which they are also making money from.

1:50:34

There are no masks, but we are sending things to America, and

1:50:38

this was a double blow, a kind of

1:50:41

double betrayal. I don’t

1:50:45

know — call it an exaggeration if you want,

1:50:47

but I absolutely believe that what

1:50:49

is happening with this PR campaign around

1:50:52

sending giant Ruslan planes (Antonov An-124 cargo aircraft)

1:50:54

— the largest cargo planes in the world —

1:50:56

carrying equipment there, to America, and this

1:51:00

being presented as some kind of super-mega

1:51:03

humanitarian aid.

1:51:04

Well, this was taken away from our doctors, and then

1:51:07

it turns out it was also sold. That is,

1:51:10

we literally took it and sold this

1:51:12

equipment.

1:51:13

We learned this solely because

1:51:15

the U.S. State Department issued a statement saying that

1:51:18

in fact, the United States, well...

1:51:20

they need ventilators, they need masks.

1:51:22

They have far more than we do, but they

1:51:24

take care of their citizens, so

1:51:26

they buy everything all over the world, and then

1:51:28

Putin called and said, roughly, do you have

1:51:30

any ventilators? And the response was,

1:51:32

of course, we’ll gather them right now from those

1:51:34

who are over there suffocating somewhere on

1:51:36

their hospital beds, we’ll collect them now and

1:51:38

send them to you, sell them off to you.

1:51:40

This is a truly vile, immoral act — selling out

1:51:43

your own citizens. And the report is presented as if

1:51:45

— let’s listen.

1:51:51

[music]

1:52:05

No.

1:52:05

[music]

1:52:07

[applause]

1:52:16

[music]

1:52:22

This is the footage that was broadcast on all

1:52:25

channels: the plane takes off,

1:52:27

flies to the U.S., then there were photos of how

1:52:30

workers were unloading at the airport these

1:52:33

ventilators. You can see written on them:

1:52:35

Aventa-M ventilator

1:52:37

for artificial lung ventilation. By the way, quite

1:52:39

a lot of people wrote that they would not

1:52:40

work there because, basically,

1:52:42

the standard systems in an ordinary hospital in

1:52:45

the U.S. are different — you can’t just plug them in there

1:52:47

because of the peculiarities of

1:52:49

the electrical grid. Well, presumably this

1:52:50

problem can be solved technically, but in any

1:52:52

case, one must understand that this ventilator

1:52:54

was taken away from some person who

1:52:59

is suffocating here and now in Moscow, in

1:53:02

Syktyvkar, where there was an outbreak and an entire

1:53:05

hospital is now closed because one

1:53:07

doctor infected everyone else. Across the rest of

1:53:09

Russia, people do not have enough of this

1:53:11

equipment, and we know that all over the world there is not

1:53:14

enough of it. This has been the case in every country, and everyone

1:53:17

has been concerned about it.

1:53:18

And everyone says new ones need to be produced,

1:53:20

they need to be bought all over the world, because

1:53:22

this is the main thing.

1:53:23

The main understanding, the main problem of

1:53:25

coronavirus

1:53:27

is that when many people

1:53:30

fall ill, a large number of people

1:53:33

will need ventilators.

1:53:35

And those who do not get them will die, and yet we

1:53:39

are taking these ventilators and sending them

1:53:43

to America, and all of this is being presented as

1:53:46

Putin is using this so-called humanitarian campaign

1:53:48

for PR, and then it turns out that they

1:53:51

sold it. I mean, this really is, without

1:53:54

any exaggeration—and I think it's important

1:53:58

to say this plainly—that it's the sale of the lives

1:54:00

of our people. Before Putin's address,

1:54:02

I first turned on Rossiya 24 (a Russian state TV channel), and well, everyone

1:54:06

had been waiting a long time, and there were 200,000 people watching the live

1:54:09

broadcast.

1:54:09

They were all waiting for it. The comments there

1:54:11

were disabled, so I went to the

1:54:13

NTV channel (a Russian TV network); comments were open there, and

1:54:15

it was funny to read them. And before Putin's

1:54:17

address, there was this live broadcast there—good Lord—

1:54:20

where they were just talking about this

1:54:24

whole campaign: supposedly, Americans are so grateful to us,

1:54:27

and look, they're literally

1:54:29

taking everything out of our super-

1:54:32

plane that brought it, they said,

1:54:34

thanking the Russian people, saying thank you

1:54:37

so much.

1:54:38

After that, they sanitize these machines and

1:54:40

take them to various hospitals and so on, right.

1:54:42

Well, of course Americans are saying thank you

1:54:44

very much,

1:54:45

because the machines were brought to them and sold to them—

1:54:47

sold. So they're saying thank you

1:54:49

very much for selling us these

1:54:51

machines. So this isn't humanitarian

1:54:53

aid for Americans either. And while many

1:54:55

countries are buying this equipment all over the world,

1:54:59

they bought in Russia machines that, God forbid,

1:55:01

you—or your grandmother, your

1:55:04

mother, your father, your child—might need tomorrow

1:55:07

and there won't be enough. They're selling them, selling them to the

1:55:10

richest country in the world, where there's a whole

1:55:13

campaign underway, by the way: let's help

1:55:15

the doctors. All these wealthy people—Arnold

1:55:18

Schwarzenegger, for example—I saw on Twitter

1:55:20

photos and videos showing

1:55:23

how he was buying $1 million worth of

1:55:25

masks and giving those masks to doctors there. And

1:55:28

let's watch 21 seconds.

1:55:30

The Empire State Building, that famous

1:55:33

building in Manhattan,

1:55:34

was lit up red in honor of doctors so that

1:55:37

it would look, you know, like an

1:55:39

ambulance. Let's watch 21 seconds.

1:55:56

[music]

1:56:05

A nationwide campaign in the richest

1:56:07

country in the world. Meanwhile, we don't have anything even close to that kind of nationwide

1:56:09

effort here, not even remotely, as I've already

1:56:11

told you. Here, only

1:56:13

a few trade unions and a few

1:56:15

organizations are collecting protective equipment,

1:56:17

and the police are being sicced on them,

1:56:18

they're being arrested, not allowed to travel. Here, no one

1:56:21

is trying to get all these Abramoviches

1:56:24

and Usmanovs (Russian oligarchs), all these oligarchs—none of

1:56:26

them is buying anything for us. The biggest

1:56:29

donation of masks to Russia was made by, what's his name,

1:56:33

Jack Ma, basically, the owner of AliExpress,

1:56:35

and he donated 1 million masks to Russia.

1:56:37

Very interesting. I'm not going to

1:56:40

claim that's exactly what happened, but I

1:56:41

saw a lot of jokes saying,

1:56:43

"The Chinese gave us a million masks,

1:56:45

and then we sold a whole plane-load of brand-new masks

1:56:47

and Philips ventilators to the U.S."

1:56:50

I wouldn't be surprised for a second if, basically,

1:56:53

they donated masks to us, and we then

1:56:55

shipped them off to America. It's just interesting

1:56:57

whether someone also pocketed the money somehow,

1:56:59

but of course, yes, we want

1:57:02

to help everyone—Americans,

1:57:05

Italians, and so on—but we also need

1:57:07

to remember ourselves first,

1:57:09

otherwise it looks very strange, yes.

1:57:12

Of course, if not worse, it looks like this:

1:57:13

imagine a Mercedes pulls up,

1:57:16

big and shiny, and the driver of that

1:57:19

Mercedes has all sorts of problems, and walking beside it is

1:57:21

this

1:57:22

poor man with bad teeth,

1:57:24

and he takes off his last coat and

1:57:27

starts wiping the windshield of that

1:57:30

Mercedes.

1:57:30

And the guy—the driver—says, "Hey, man,

1:57:32

you really shouldn't be using your last

1:57:34

coat for this." But no: "I'm going to wipe it, I want

1:57:37

to help you." "Thank you, kind passerby,"

1:57:40

says the owner of the Mercedes, grateful

1:57:43

to this miserable man who used his

1:57:45

only coat

1:57:47

to wipe the windshield of a Mercedes.

1:57:48

But is that a reasonable thing to do from the point of view

1:57:52

of the man in the tattered coat? And the man in

1:57:55

the tattered coat,

1:57:55

unfortunately,

1:57:56

we have nothing in our hospitals.

1:57:59

I'm not going to show you those videos again;

1:58:01

the internet is full of them. Just go to any

1:58:04

doctor you know and ask:

1:58:06

do you have enough ventilators

1:58:08

according to the standard? How many

1:58:10

are free? And they'll all tell you—in

1:58:12

regional hospitals and even in Moscow, in

1:58:14

any hospital—that there are too few, many are broken, and they're already

1:58:18

being used by patients. God forbid, if tomorrow there is an

1:58:21

escalation

1:58:22

of the epidemic, someone will be lying there dying

1:58:25

because there is no ventilator, and that

1:58:27

ventilator is sitting in America. This is simply

1:58:30

staggering betrayal. This is exactly why

1:58:34

we must not let the state and its

1:58:37

propaganda machine present this

1:58:39

the way they want. First, they don't

1:58:40

say that it was sold. Second,

1:58:42

they say that everything here is

1:58:43

just wonderful, as Peskov (Putin's press secretary) says:

1:58:46

measures were taken in advance

1:58:48

for this. It's all lies. We need to

1:58:50

just tell everyone—your neighbors, grandmothers,

1:58:53

grandfathers—about this enormous, filthy,

1:58:56

brazen betrayal. Besides, by the way,

1:59:00

this is criminal. Do you know that since the beginning of February

1:59:03

in our country...

1:59:05

Ah, please show it, if you have it, I just...

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It seems to me they prepared a note for the program.

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Saying that, officially, from Russia

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the export of medical

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equipment is banned.

1:59:14

Medical masks as well—it’s impossible. Give me one

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headline from *Kommersant* newspaper, I think.

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Which means from Russia, because here

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there’s a shortage, and taking anything out is prohibited.

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It is officially banned. Nevertheless,

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it’s like with the quarantine—whatever, who cares.

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There’s no ban if it’s a gift, and they violate it, and

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they didn’t—they didn’t donate them, they sold our

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ventilators.

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They sold our masks. But someone will tell me:

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all right, fine, how much did they send?

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A hundred ventilators? Two hundred ventilators?

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Do you think that’s a small amount? Tomorrow

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I’ll publish it in full on my blog. Right now

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I’ll just show you a few

1:59:52

photos from a rather exclusive

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document. It’s an EMERCOM report (Russia’s Ministry of Emergency Situations); it was sent to me.

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In it, they describe our situation.

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It shows which regions are submitting requests.

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EMERCOM is monitoring all this, and they are surveying

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hospitals and regions: what will happen if people come to you

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if

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the virus reaches you, and they start bringing you

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people who are suffocating, dying—you

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need to put them on ventilators, and so

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here’s what they answer. In particular, I found one from

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Tomsk Oblast (a region in Siberia)—Tomsk Oblast,

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our people, Siberia, the Tomsk

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region, by the way, where oil is produced—and

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they say they have no ventilators. And

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the Ministry of Industry and Trade replies to them

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that they will get them in 180 days. So the residents

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of Tomsk Oblast, from whose land oil is pumped,

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that oil paid for ventilators, and

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then they were sold to the United States, while the people there are told:

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please wait. For now, don’t

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suffocate, don’t die, please don’t

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get infected—for now. In 180 days, you’ll get

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ventilators. Next, if we look at this

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EMERCOM report—there’s the Nenets Autonomous Okrug as well,

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an insanely rich oil-and-gas region.

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The region writes that for infected patients

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they designated a hospital built in 1935, with wear and tear

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at 100 percent. It wasn’t for nothing that I

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used that metaphor, right?

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It may not be very pleasant for us, of course,

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that we are like a person in a tattered coat who,

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with that tattered coat is trying

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to wash a car with it. Because when we

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set aside for coronavirus patients

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a hospital with 100 percent

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depreciation, we are that person in a tattered coat. And

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everywhere, all the regions write, all the regions

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write that there is a shortage of

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personal protective equipment.

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There is a shortage of everything everywhere. These are official

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EMERCOM reports. But damn it, we’re sending it to

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Italy, we’re sending it to America, we’re sending it away,

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selling it all, and still declaring that Russia

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is always ready to help. If you need more,

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we’ll bring you more. This is

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a betrayal of our own citizens,

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absolutely—a betrayal of our own

2:01:55

citizens. Even though we’re sitting at

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home, we must not stay silent. And now

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each of you has internet access, each

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of you has ways to communicate,

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probably

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more than in ordinary life. You talk

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to your relatives and friends, so

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talk about this. Demand that,

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first, people be paid, and second, that they

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stop selling our equipment and

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our lives abroad. And most importantly,

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that the authorities finally present

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some kind of plan, because the epidemic is in

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full swing. But you and I, objectively speaking,

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whether we criticize Putin or not, honestly,

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no one understands what the plan is.

2:02:32

What is the government’s plan? What is Putin’s plan? What

2:02:34

is his plan for saving the economy—to give

2:02:36

money? He didn’t really say to give money, nor not to give it.

2:02:38

Instead there’s this endless

2:02:40

phrase: “we need to help.” What will that help be?

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A non-working month has been declared. What is the plan

2:02:46

of the government for those people who, in the

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third week of this non-working month,

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are saying: we have no money left? What is

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the government’s plan regarding those who

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smoke?

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Here’s one specific example: if you smoke,

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you probably know that all tobacco

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factories in Russia are closed. Normally, inventory

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stocks at tobacco factories last for about two

2:03:10

weeks. I’m a non-smoker, and I’m not

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in favor of people smoking; I really

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don’t like smoking or smokers. I support

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all anti-tobacco measures. But even so,

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40 percent of the population smokes.

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And tomorrow cigarettes will run out. Then what?

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Will imported ones flood the market, or

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will tobacco factories be reopened? What is the plan?

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How are you going to handle this?

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A million small businesses are going bankrupt.

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What is your plan? Please explain.

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There is no plan, and they will never

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publish one unless we

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demand it from them. You can demand it simply

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by talking about it, by posting about it on

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social media, by bringing it up in conversation with any

2:03:50

official, simply by changing

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the opinions of the people around you. Because

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our authorities, as is well known, govern through

2:03:58

opinion polling. When

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they feel that there is discontent,

2:04:03

they will start moving. But as long as they do not

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feel that there is discontent, their

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real plan is actually the one voiced by

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the head of the Legislative Assembly of the city of

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St. Petersburg. There is this man there,

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Makarov, a well-known member of United Russia (the ruling political party). So, the country’s second-largest

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city, a city where

2:04:21

the epidemic will obviously hit—has already hit,

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a city much poorer than Moscow, and

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which cannot afford even

2:04:27

anything close to what Moscow allows itself. Where

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will the epidemic lead us? What is our authorities’ plan?

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A high-ranking

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United Russia official answers: every day

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at the Mariinsky Palace, during the service—you saw

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that Metropolitan of St. Petersburg and

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Ladoga, Varsonofy—our colleagues,

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the deputies—there he was, flying in a helicopter with

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the Kazan Icon of the Mother of God.

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I am absolutely convinced that this will help

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because our Russia is that great world

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power. St. Petersburg is the city

2:05:01

of the Holy Apostle Peter, a great

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Orthodox city of planet Earth.

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You understand, and no, you did not mishear—that

2:05:10

was not an April Fools’ joke. This is really

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a high-ranking official, who, when asked

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what we are going to do about the coronavirus, says

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that we need to fly around the city in a helicopter with

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the Kazan Icon of the Mother of God, and I

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am convinced that it will help, because

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St. Petersburg is a great Orthodox

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city. Okay, maybe that will help.

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Fine, why not use, among other things,

2:05:32

this unique opportunity as well—

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to fly around the city in a helicopter?

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St. Petersburg—with an icon and with icons—

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also fly around it, walk around everything, not just

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hold religious processions—let

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helicopters fly over cities with icons.

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But in addition to that, I would like

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our authorities to start right now

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doing what is already being done in other

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countries. But until we demand it,

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demand it,

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they will not do it. Thank you very much to everyone

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who watched my

2:06:02

experimental broadcast from

2:06:04

my apartment. Huge thanks to the team at

2:06:07

Navalny LIVE, which made possible

2:06:09

almost two hours on air. I’ll see you

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next Thursday. And keep following

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the news, take part in the information

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war for your survival.

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No one will help us except ourselves.

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For now, until next Thursday—good luck.

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