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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly 8:00 p.m.
which means that live on air now is
the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its host,
Alexei Navalny
or, as I was called this week by
the Kremlin media, a man who admitted to
"masochistic tendencies" or something like that. I became so
curious that I even tried to find
where exactly I had supposedly confessed to my
"tendencies." But I couldn't find it. They must know better. We
fixed a few things here, so we are
once again taking your questions with the hashtag
#RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter. Please write in,
and they will be shown to me here on
this little screen. Your questions will come in live,
and I will try to answer them.
Don't forget to use the hashtag. I'll start,
basically through connections,
with Vitalik's story. First of all, through connections,
because, after all, Vitalik is
a video editor at the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK)
and the author of the videos. It's a truly
heartbreaking story. And third, with
Vitalik, nothing funny happened.
Though of course he still remains the target
of constant jokes and trolling because
during all these
searches, a lot of things were taken from people. From some,
it was a mobile phone, from others a computer, and from
him they took his apartment.
They literally took his apartment, because he
liked to keep his money at home. That is,
the man sold the apartment in which
he grew up,
the apartment his parents bought in
the Moscow region, a small apartment. He grew up
there. It was his apartment. Now he has
a wife and a child, and as usual everything is
complicated—a difficult life, a lot of problems. Vitalik
didn't have enough money, so he sold
this apartment of his, the only inheritance
he had. He sold it, spent part of the money,
and kept part of it—but being a clever
man, he kept it at home in a wardrobe. And as he
says now, he kept thinking, "I really should
take it and put it in the bank on
deposit. Well, it'll be safe in the wardrobe for now." And then
these idiots in masks came to his home and
literally took all his money away from him.
And now they claim it is material
evidence. So Vitalik—well,
good for him, really—has decided
to launch a public campaign, which
I am happily joining.
Despite the fact that I joke about it
a bit, this is genuinely outrageous.
I also urge all of you to support
Vitalik. The full video is available on the website and on
the Navalny LIVE channel. Let me
show you a minute and a half of an indignant
Vitalik fighting for his 2
million rubles (about $31,000). He's absolutely right to do it. Hi everyone,
my name is Vitaly Kolesnikov.
I do not organize rallies, I do not run
political campaigns, and I don't even appear
in our videos. But that did not stop
the apostles of the great Alexander Ivanovich
Bastrykin from bursting into my life and,
essentially, robbing me. Let me explain everything. Back when
I was little, my parents
bought an apartment in this building in
the small town of Pushkino in the Moscow region.
On August [date unclear], early in the morning, people burst into my rented
apartment—people in masks, together
with officers from the Investigative Committee,
and they found money in my wardrobe: 2.3
million rubles (about $35,000), and I had every
possible piece of paper needed to confirm
that this money had been obtained by me legally.
And along with my other property, my
money was taken away to the Investigative Committee.
It has now been almost three months. During that time,
I have twice filed motions for the return
of the funds. I repeat: in order to verify
their lawful origin, investigators
simply need to check the documents
which I myself attached to the seized
property. Explain to me for what reason your
employees took away my lawfully obtained
funds. The case against FBK is entirely
fabricated and politically motivated.
Our crime is that we dared
to tell the truth about corruption in Russia.
I am a completely ordinary person who works
in an office. I demand that Alexander Bastrykin
return my money to me. With this,
I am launching a real campaign
to recover what was stolen. Let's together
make posters saying: "Bastrykin, give the money back,"
and "Vitalik against lawlessness," and
let's ask Putin's top investigator
to simply do his job. And remember:
publicity is our main weapon. Good for
Vitalik. Of course, no normal
person can describe this situation
with any word other than outrageous.
In fact, on my cup today
I wrote a hashtag in support of Vitalik.
How many times have we told you on this
program or on the main channel about
apartments worth billions and
trillions,
about some watches worth hundreds
of millions of rubles, tens of millions
of rubles—and yet the criminal turns out to be
just an ordinary employee of the Anti-Corruption Foundation,
because of his
pitiful little two-room apartment
in Pushkino—this two-room
apartment in Pushkino that you are now
simply taking away from him. Once again, yes, in situations like this
I always say: think about it and
consider just how, in Russia, from anyone
at all, anything can be taken away.
You like some guy's company?
You just come in and seize the cash proceeds from
the store—I don't know—from the day's takings, from the safe.
The bank came and said this.
It was all declared physical evidence.
As if this is all perfectly normal, as if this is how things are done in court.
The prosecutors say, fine, it's physical evidence.
As physical evidence, they can really seize it.
They can take anything from anyone. That's exactly why
it's so important to show solidarity with those
people who have now found themselves under attack,
caught in this backlash. That's why it's important to support them. Even Talkov,
by the way, has even launched a petition on Change.org.
Good for him. But for now,
Vitaly Kolesnikov is dealing with Bastrykin (Alexander Bastrykin, head of Russia's Investigative Committee),
over some measly,
with all due respect, 2 million rubles,
while here we're dealing with much bigger cases. We got some questions
about the astonishing
victory that was won in
a Russian court against us
by Putin's chef, Yevgeny Prigozhin,
who won from me, Lyubov Sobol, and the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation)
more than a million dollars — literally more than
a million dollars — in a lawsuit over honor,
dignity, and business reputation. One of
Prigozhin's companies, called Moskovsky Shkolnik,
filed the lawsuit. And, well, they
file lawsuits endlessly, demanding some
billion here or there — insane sums.
They throw around these numbers, and we understand that of course he
will win. But usually, what do "honor" and
"dignity" and "business reputation" mean? Judges
in Putin's system just stamp out decisions like a factory:
you must delete everything. But here it's obviously already
happening as part of a larger
campaign to freeze our accounts. This is really
an absolutely unprecedented ruling
that we owe 88 million rubles
in damages.
But of course this would outrage any
lawyer, and yes, it sounds bizarre.
And I understand that Sobol, I, and the whole
team now have some lovely conversations ahead with
the bailiffs, who will be carrying everything
out of our homes. But in fact,
the police have already won, what was it,
some millions, and the metro, and the Armenia restaurant,
our beloved one, and so on and so forth.
All of this is, of course, part of this
coordinated campaign. But this whole
story with Putin's chef,
Prigozhin, and his court victory
looks especially striking against the backdrop of
what's been happening. The sequence goes like this:
they win 88 million rubles from us.
That means Sobol, I, and the FBK have to
pay this crook, who supplied
Moscow schools and kindergartens
with rotten food. We said so before,
and we say so now — yet we are the ones who have to pay him
88 million rubles and delete all those statements.
At exactly the same time, the very next day, in
Moscow school number — let me tell you which one —
what number was it? No, I don't have it here, you'll see it
on the screen in a second — there is yet
another poisoning case. This was reported by
Andrei Orel. Ah yes, school No. 2403, in
Maryino (a district of Moscow).
Andrei Orel ran there from the Communist Party,
but unfortunately did not get elected because of
falsifications. Stebenkova, remember her?
She's fairly well known. In the end, she beat
Orel. Nevertheless, he continues
to defend the residents of Maryino. He
was one of the first to report that
there had been another mass poisoning and children had been taken to
the hospital with all the symptoms
of severe food poisoning. And once again, Prigozhin
had supplied some rotten food. Naturally,
all the Prigozhin trolls immediately
— the whole gang of them — started shouting
that nothing of the sort had happened, that nothing
had happened at all, that it was all a lie. But
before long, the next
day, it became known that there was full
confirmation: yes, it had all happened exactly as reported.
First of all, and second,
it turned out once again that the food supplied to this
school in Maryino came from a participant in
Prigozhin's syndicate — that is, the same network.
His monopoly works like this:
he created several different companies — Concord,
Moskovsky Shkolnik, and so on and so forth.
If you look into who supplies food to
the kindergarten your child attends
or the school your child goes to, there may
be some company with a name like
"Daisy LLC," but with 99 percent
probability that "Daisy" still belongs
to this syndicate — it is part of
the empire. Prigozhin simply divides up this
food supply market among his own
companies in order to get around
antitrust regulation that way.
He supplies food everywhere.
Let's watch 22 seconds of what
Prigozhin supplies to Moscow schools.
What I saw inside, of course,
didn't just surprise or astonish me,
it actually shocked me, because the quality
of the food leaves much
to be desired — it's literally third-rate meat,
compote made from sour,
repeatedly defrosted berries. This, by the way,
is a clip from that very
expensive video — one of the most expensive
videos in the history of the Russian internet — for which
we are now, essentially, supposed to
pay 88 million rubles. So yes,
he wins.
At the same time, a new poisoning happens.
At the same time, in the Moscow City Duma,
credit where it's due: for the first time, from the
Moscow City Duma podium, a deputy
gets up and says: what the hell, why is there another
poisoning, and why is there zero
attention at all from the
executive authorities? Pavel Tarasov
stood up and spoke — good for him, a young guy,
speaking out about yet another poisoning of children in
Marina, and to this day nothing has been done about those organizations
that we know are poisoning children; to this day
nothing has been done, and once again they will
try to bury their heads in the sand and persuade
parents not to complain anywhere that this is happening again
and, on top of all that,
just today, Lyubov Sobol
who now, together with me, is supposed to pay 800
844, and 40 from me—I won't even try to guess how many times in BK
although there's already nothing left to take there, 44 from me for
44—most likely, that's what the configuration will look like
It has finally, definitively
well, not entirely definitively—there is still a lot
that will still happen, but she really
got her way. As you remember, I talked a lot
about this—Sobol represented
the interests
of the parents of those children whose children were
poisoned. Class-action lawsuits are very difficult to bring in
Russia—practically
almost impossible, that kind of thing. Nevertheless, she
worked on it, filed these lawsuits, and Prigozhin
in response launched an entire war against her
and the whole internet was simply flooded
with all sorts of stories claiming that
she beats children, and that her husband is a necrophile, and so on
and so on and so forth. And besides all that,
she and all her family members were
constantly followed by people with
cameras, shouting various things and throwing
objects and all that. Nevertheless, through all
these months she held on, and today in court
she proved it: a Moscow court recognized that
Prigozhin's companies poisoned children
Moreover, they ruled that
these companies must pay the parents
compensation—ridiculously small compensation, but
still, this is a very important thing. It means
this is a legally established fact. And
by the way, remember that this same
Prigozhin had previously paid
compensation to parents simply under
pressure from Sobol. They did not want all this to
go to court, and they tried
to break up the initiative group
but they did pay some compensation, and
now they will be paying compensation
by court order. Let's watch for a minute
Lyubov Sobol, who in fact achieved
a major victory. So once again,
many thanks
for her persistence, and to all those people
who worked on this difficult project
The announcement of the ruling has just concluded
on two class-action lawsuits by the parents of
the affected children
The poisonings took place in December of last
year, and the court established that those responsible for
the mass poisoning of children were
the food suppliers and the catering operators
in the kindergartens—these are Prigozhin-linked
companies Concord and the company Vito-1
They
bear responsibility
for the mass poisoning of children. We
have finally secured this court
decision because we were seeking
this truth and justice. Since December of last
year, the parents have been fighting for it. Their children were given
test results in hand, they were diagnosed with acute intestinal infection,
quarantine was imposed, but the schools were not closed, and samples were taken from them
for a long time. We succeeded in getting
two criminal cases opened, which are now
under investigation, and in securing recognition of the fact that the children were infected
by the food suppliers. So this is
very important. I congratulate all the parents
who were frightened, intimidated, and even
bribed, but who nevertheless withstood all
this pressure from these supplier companies
and made it all the way to a court ruling
The court confirmed that they were right
20,000 people are watching us live
Let's all congratulate
Sobol once again—this really is a big and important story
After all, the entire mafia is involved from all
sides, and Sobyanin (the Moscow mayor), clearly, and his people
were skimming money off these contracts, and Prigozhin
who not only supplies spoiled
food to schools and kindergartens
but is also involved in military contracts
and in killings in Africa—he is, generally speaking,
a very, very close associate of Putin
and of the Ministry of Defense
So really, this whole
multi-layered mafia
showed itself perfectly in
this very case of kindergarten poisonings. Unfortunately,
yes, judging by the fact that this
happened again the day before yesterday,
this story is not going to end, and someone
will keep making money from it, while someone else
will unfortunately pay for it with their
health—and that will be our children. A terrible
thing. I'm being asked: and no one will be jailed, right?
Not even anyone at all?
Well, who would jail him now?
Jailing Prigozhin is probably impossible
He can jail anyone he wants, but
they won't do anything to him now
because he is one of Putin's closest
associates, and he steals a great deal from these
school contracts, and even more from
the construction of military housing complexes for
the Ministry of Defense, and we understand perfectly well
that he sends a significant share of it
up the chain
I wouldn't be surprised if it goes to Putin's family; moreover,
I even
am sure of it. Andrei asks:
"Why don't they conduct searches at Alexei Navalny's
and Lyubov Sobol's places? Are they afraid?"
They're not afraid. By the way, they do conduct searches at Lyubov's
They've happened, I think, absolutely everywhere
searches everywhere, even at some point during
her hunger strike, when she was sitting in some little storage room
and
there was even a search there. So yes, they do conduct them. At my place
indeed, the last time was in the region
It was about four years ago, but that’s beside the point.
They’ll carry it out, don’t worry.
They’ll definitely do it — no doubt about that.
At last, there’s some positive news in our
program — genuinely, truly
excellent positive news. Of course,
against the backdrop of all the negativity, but still,
we’ve all been waiting for something like this, and I
was really waiting for something like this, and it
happened: an honest police officer
has been found in Russia.
Vitaly Oksidov was one of the
police officers who took part during
the dispersals and detentions during these
during those summer protest
in Moscow, and
he was one of those who were told,
basically, “You write a statement,” and he was listed
in the fabricated case as the injured party.
A thrown plastic bottle —
a plastic bottle flew toward someone,
and they opened a criminal case.
They falsified a criminal case. Unfortunately,
there were several such criminal cases,
several episodes, and absolutely
shameless — really very
cowardly, very vile people who
think they’re tough guys from the National Guard (Rosgvardiya, Russia’s internal security force),
or police officers themselves, writing these
statements like:
“Oh, someone touched my helmet, and I felt
a sharp pain in the back of my head, you know.
“They pushed my arm, and so hard that
I suffered terribly — moral damages,
material damages, and now overall I
need two months of rest.” And this Maksidov
finally came out and said what
everyone is thinking — what society
expects from any normal man. He
came out and said, in essence:
“That bottle didn’t cause me any harm
whatsoever. Somebody just tossed
a plastic bottle. On the streets of Moscow, I
think that happens about 100,000 times a day.
Someone throws a plastic bottle. They threw one
maybe in the direction of police officers,
and by doing that, they expressed their attitude
toward the police.
Was anyone harmed here? No.” And he said, “I will not
take part in fabricating a criminal
case. I’m not going to ruin anyone’s life. This is
all completely absurd.”
“To hell with all of you. I’m
quitting your police force.” Ob-la-di-doo.
Hats off to this wonderful, honest
police officer. Let’s watch the video
from the outlet Baza, where they got his
phone comments: “I do not consider it a
threat, so as a person
who was useful to the police, I couldn’t
hold any kind of professional or ideological
position.”
But
now, as I understand it, he was against
preventing people from expressing
something genuinely simple and human, you understand.
Absolutely simple, normal words have become
a breakthrough in Russia, because, well,
yes, someone really did throw a plastic bottle.
Okay — that’s something nobody
would normally pay attention to. Only Putin,
Bastrykin, Chaika, Sobyanin (senior Russian officials) turn that into
a crime, and everyone stays silent. And then out came
this police officer — good for him. A million times
I’ve heard from these cops who detain us,
transport us somewhere, or guard us somewhere,
some words of sympathy, even words
of support — and all of them grumble, saying, “Damn,
how much longer can this go on?
To hell with them — the salary’s
too low, I’ll quit.” They all say that. With
any police officer you know, if you
talk to them,
if he’s not sitting in some
fat, cushy post where you can make
a lot of money, they all endlessly complain about it.
Many do leave — there’s enormous
turnover there. But this one actually came out
publicly — very cool. And against the backdrop of all
this, right now we feel especially sharply, of course,
what dishonest policing looks like.
At the same time, we are watching
events in Yekaterinburg, where the son
of a Rosgvardiya colonel was involved in
a traffic accident — a terrible crash in which two
people died.
They made a deal with the father, the colonel
from Rosgvardiya, that in order for his dear son
to get off the hook, he would submit his father’s test samples instead.
That’s the level of legal consciousness, you see.
That Rosgvardiya colonel probably also
went around during those major protests
at the square protests.
And he probably ran around shouting that
“You’re the orange threat here” (a reference to the “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine),
“You want it to be like Maidan (the Ukrainian protest movement),
you want it like in Paris,”
“you want it like in Egypt,” and so on. They kept saying
all this nonsense, but in
reality, when it comes to
obeying the law yourself, you simply
go ahead and commit a criminal
offense — you hand over
someone else’s sample. I mean, it’s just an outright
forgery. Two people were killed, and then they commit yet
another crime in order to avoid
punishment. And this is the police, this is Rosgvardiya.
So compare them: two worlds, two pictures.
Honest police officers, dishonest
police officers. Of course, unfortunately, very unfortunately,
the typical law enforcement officer in
Russia today is more likely a crooked colonel
like Andrei Vasilyev than the wonderful
Vitaly Maksidov. Another one of Putin’s relatives
captured a lot of people’s attention this week.
A lot of people.
It’s a great story. It seems to me it didn’t
get as much attention as it
She can get it, and it's all because
the media outlet Proekt released
I'm addressing them live on air—they don't
make videos. Guys, start making
some videos already. If you go to the
Proekt website, read
the huge longread—it's all very interesting.
But for lots of people to learn about
your investigations, put out videos,
because, well, I do retell them,
here live on air, but it would be great
if you made them yourselves. They did
something really good. There's this guy, Mikhail Shelomov,
and quite a lot has been written about him in the media
because he's Putin's nephew—the son
of his cousin. And he was just some
random nobody, basically, and everyone saw
and understood that he was just some random guy, and suddenly
this random guy
turned out to own this, then he
turned out to own that, and somehow
just like that, gradually, gradually,
gradually, despite never having been known for anything
in big business, maybe sitting on some
board of directors somewhere, shares started appearing
out of nowhere. And now it turns out that
his fortune amounts to more than
$1.25 billion, and he ought to be
around 81st
on the Forbes list. And everyone understands perfectly well
why—it's obvious, because
he's related to Putin, because he's
Putin's nephew. So they shove him everywhere.
The guy is making use of all this,
seemingly stealing, but Proekt
did something really good: they simply
found where he lives and started
of course, watching him there
and investigating what he does. Before this
rise of his, he was a photographer in a photo studio—
a typical career path in Putin's
Russia: he was a photo-studio photographer, and then
your uncle became president, and boom—
you're a billionaire. He owns a stake in SOGAZ,
which is a major insurance
company—12 percent. In Bank Rossiya, 8
percent. You can see it on the screen now:
a whole scheme. So our photographer here
grew into this big, impressive
businessman who's in
the top hundred on the Forbes list. But the thing is,
it turned out that he still lives
in rather modest conditions. Let's
take a look at this billionaire's little house.
Show us the photos. There, there—you
can see it, actually. He was officially registered there,
and Proekt's journalists went
to take a look, went to talk to
the neighbors, and discovered that our wonderful
billionaire still lives in this
little house.
He still has everything there; he
repairs the foundation and fixes the fence himself,
rebuilt the stove himself, and Mikhail
Shelomov, the owner of shares worth
$1.25 billion,
has an outhouse in the yard. That's really something. And here, of course,
it would be nice just to be touched by
what a modest, wonderful
billionaire we have. But the truth, as we all understand perfectly well,
is that
someone—let's take a guess, who could it be—
is quite obviously using
Putin's nephew
to register assets in his name,
property and so on, worth more than
a billion dollars. Who could that possibly be?
Who could use Putin's nephew
like that? So I personally have no doubt.
Maybe it's Putin's own money directly,
maybe it's the money of some
close relative of his, or his wife, or
his daughter, something like that.
But the fact that this Shelomov is a kind of
temporary holder, like the cellist
Roldugin—remember him? Roldugin was just
a cellist, a talented musician, and then—bang—
it turns out he had, in an offshore
company,
$5 billion. Those $5
billion came from VTB
from
Rosneft and other state-owned
companies. It's obvious that this was Putin's
money, especially since Putin immediately rushed
to defend him and started talking about how
he spends it all on buying
unique musical instruments. But
obviously, with that kind of money you could have bought
pretty much all the musical
instruments on planet Earth. First of all.
Second, he didn't buy a damn thing there,
except maybe one
cello and one violin. That was Putin's money—
Putin's pocket. And here, the outlet
Proekt, it seems to me, has absolutely clearly
uncovered it. And here we are, 27,000 people
watching live, and without
fearing any risks at all,
I can say with complete certainty: yes,
this is another of Putin's pockets, a pocket
of the Putin family, and there's a billion in it.
In fact, it's a large sum, and a large part of it is in
this kind of financial structure,
the infrastructure of SOGAZ and Bank Rossiya. In other words,
people often say, you know, well, they've exposed this one,
they've exposed that one, but Putin—
show us where Putin stole something. Well,
here you go: this is where Putin stole
a billion. We've seen before that Putin, personally,
stole a billion and gave it to
his daughter's husband, and Kirill Shamalov
became Russia's youngest billionaire. In
this case, we've seen how Putin stole—or had someone steal for him—
for Putin, and then put it into
the box labeled
'Putin's nephew Shelomov.' That's where it was placed, and he
is the nominal holder, unquestionably.
This is something stolen directly for
a member of Putin's family, so
it will be very interesting to watch how this
all develops. I hope that Russian
journalists, when they are at the
Direct Line (Putin's annual televised Q&A), will ask
the national leader the following question:
Please explain how your nephew
went from being a photo studio photographer to becoming
a billionaire, while it is not apparent that
he actually
owns or really uses
or even actually himself really
understands how rich he is. So, Olya
asks me: on November 1 there will be a test
shutdown of the internet in Russia. What do you
think will come of it? I don't think
that this will be a test shutdown
of the internet in Russia. As I understand it,
the authorities have decided to conduct
internet shutdown drills in Russia once a month.
That means they will, somehow,
switch off certain segments in some
city — that is, they will somehow
play around with it.
But it won't be the kind of thing where in the morning
you wake up, open YouTube to, of course,
watch a recording of my broadcast, and
there's just a gray screen. No, that won't happen,
because then there would simply be an uprising in Russia.
But first of all, they will
buy enormous amounts of
equipment to shut down the internet, and
they will steal colossal amounts of money
through that equipment. Secondly,
well, that is, they will either
conduct command-post exercises or
use it in
small towns and regions. Ksenia
Ulyanova asks me: Alexei, what do you
think about the bill on the promotion
of drugs online?
I view this law very, very
negatively, especially given that it provides for
what, seven years or 15?
Well, how will all this end? Quite simply.
You see, the internet is now
global. For example, I follow on Instagram
this amusing American
millionaire or billionaire — his name is Dan
Bilzerian. I would show you if I had
thought to pull it up; maybe I'll show it again
later. Go to Instagram — he's very
entertaining. His feed is full of this guy — he's
also a bodybuilder type — constantly, constantly in
swim trunks, everywhere, always with cigars,
some booze, and around him a whole sea of
models in swimsuits.
His business is that he
sells —
he produces and sells marijuana. This is
an entirely legal business in the
United States. If you repost his Instagram post
where he is openly promoting
marijuana use, and what caught your interest
in that post was not even that, but
for example, I don't know, the girls in
swimsuits, or him firing his weapons,
some assault rifles, or the cars,
because he's always racing through deserts
in some jeeps — you could be
sent to prison for seven years for promoting
drugs. Well, apparently that's how it will
work. But in reality it's a meaningless
piece of nonsense that will, first of all,
make a huge number of films illegal,
drawings, books, cartoons, and so on. And
most importantly — I mean, to imprison
someone for propaganda? Seriously? Here,
vodka is sold quite freely in every
store, and we have a huge number of —
hundreds of thousands, millions, apparently —
alcoholics, that is, in fact the same kind of
addicts. But alcohol promotion
goes on completely openly, and
no one even comes close to objecting.
And probably there is no need to, in such a crude
way, advocate for
I don't know, cutting from feature films
scenes of drunkenness — I wouldn't cut scenes of drunkenness,
but scenes where someone rolls
a joint would be cut, and people would be jailed over those
scenes. So, without a doubt, I believe that
this is yet another stupid, idiotic, absurd
law that will simply lead to the fact that
some number of people will be imprisoned for
who knows what,
while some much larger number —
simply an incomparably larger number — of people
will pay bribes so that
these criminal cases are not opened against them.
And this will have zero
effect on the fight against drugs. Russia
does need to fight drugs. We have
an enormous number of users; in terms of
absolute consumption of
heroin, we are in first place in the world.
We have to do something about this, but this
law will do absolutely nothing about it.
Just another idiotic law. Torchu asks us:
If, theoretically, RT
were allowed to interview Navalny, would he agree?
I will talk more about RT today
— it will be quite interesting there. Anastasia
Krasnaya asks: Alexei, tell us, will there
still be a program about
police reform? As I understand it,
Sobol is working on recording
the pilot. It seems the Police Ombudsman has not
gotten scared and still wants to do it.
I can see you smirking here, Medvedev
is sitting there, and the director from Navalny LIVE —
when, please tell me, will there be
a program with the Police Ombudsman? He shrugs.
But we do want this program. I
hope it will appear, and I am absolutely sure
that it will be interesting. In the
police, an enormous number of things are happening.
very interesting things that are hidden from
the public, as is also the case in the army
I want to talk about the army now
Something absolutely monstrous happened
In Zabaykalsky Krai (a region in eastern Russia), conscript soldier Ramil
Shamsutdinov shot eight people
and now there are petitions online
in his defense, and everyone is saying that he should
be released, that he should not be punished
Of course, that will not happen; obviously, he will still
receive his life sentence
However, the fact that hundreds of thousands and millions
of people are either directly defending Shamsutdinov
or are ready to sympathize with him
to understand him, to put themselves in his shoes, speaks
to the main point: something is happening to our army
Some kind of crap is going on—or rather, that crap is even
coming back from the early 1990s, when
I was entering college, and all of that
had already been there in the late 1980s, when there was
a surge in dedovshchina (violent hazing of junior conscripts)
A huge number of books on the subject
came out, but it was not just books
These people came back from the army
and told how first they were beaten, and then
they beat others, and the whole country knew, and back then everyone
was very worried about the fact that
someone would go into the army because
it was practically guaranteed they would get beaten there
It seemed that the situation had improved a little
and now we are seeing it again
in full force—it is happening all over again
Why? Because the so-called
law enforcement agencies and all
power structures, including the army,
have completely and utterly slipped out from under
public oversight, just like in the 1980s, when
something happened and the relatives were told,
“Your soldier hanged himself, you know, his girlfriend
wrote him a letter, she left him, and he
got so upset that he hanged himself.” But in reality
when they brought back his body, it was covered in
bruises. And now exactly the same thing is happening
in Kaluga Region today
This evening, the parents finally succeeded in getting
a criminal case opened against
representatives of the military enlistment office, because they
were told the same thing: “Yours hanged himself.”
They received his body, and the body was covered
in bruises, poorly covered up with makeup
And everyone knows that dedovshchina is real
it is now growing, increasing, and dedovshchina
is, unfortunately, encouraged by officers
because they see in it, well, a way
of maintaining control. All my classmates,
all my neighbors—they were officers in the Russian
and Soviet army, and I myself spent my whole life
living in a military town; I know how it works
And when I ask, I say, “Why
do you need dedovshchina?” they tell me, “Without dedovshchina
you can’t manage, because the soldiers come in, they’re stupid, and
so I pick out three soldiers who are
a bit smarter, and they drive the stupid soldiers for me
I’m not going to beat them myself or
do something like that; I can maybe
line them up, pressure them morally
but if I don’t have such quick-witted
sergeants who beat the stupid
country bumpkins who simply don’t want
to work or don’t understand anything, then I won’t have
any discipline at all”
But that explanation, first of all, is
in itself monstrous and absurd, and in the end it
leads to things like this. And at first, of course,
naturally
the Defense Ministry denied absolutely everything and
said the same thing they always say
The first statement, then, was that
all of this happened as a result of his
simply having some kind of nervous breakdown, that
the man just fell into a state of
emotional distress, took out his rifle
shot two people first, then
three more, then told another five
to lie on the ground and shot them too, and then
tried to escape. But of course, later
it emerged that this soldier
had been beaten, and then it came out that the day before
he had simply been constantly enduring
verbal humiliation, and the day before he was
forced to clean the toilet, to scrub the toilet again
He refused, after which
in classic Russian army fashion—and, really, the classic pattern in
some Russian schools and elsewhere as well—
they started dunking his head into
the toilet, and then, damn it, they sent him
to stand guard. So why was he given
access to weapons?
The man simply could not take it anymore, he snapped and
shot everyone, and that is why now the whole
country, to one degree or another,
sympathizes with this killer. But he killed
eight people. I do not know whether all eight were involved
in the abuse; maybe some of them were not
involved. One way or another, he killed those
eight people, and this once again shows us
this strange thing
that is happening in Russia—what
the Russian army is, what Russian
education is. The Russian army, that is,
is a place no one wants to go, including because
there is dedovshchina there, including because
you are expected, simply because you are expected,
to do all sorts of strange things instead of
serving your country and defending the homeland
you are made to focus on scrubbing
toilets or building someone’s
dacha (country house)
That existed in the 1990s, then it seemed to disappear, and
now it has started again. Our entire system
of education, all universities,
exist not so that people can actually
study there, but so that boys can
in this way
avoid the army; they go to some
terrible, pointless, useless
fee-paying colleges
and pay money there so that
stay enrolled as students and thus
avoid the army, avoid military service
in the army.
Those who don’t have money, or those who aren’t even able
to get into even some
mediocre little college, go into the army, and then
we wonder why, well,
the army has such poor personnel, why it’s staffed by
nothing but, to put it bluntly, some kind of stupid
country bumpkin who gets mocked
by other soldiers, well
of course—because we ourselves created
what is essentially a class system. Very few people go
to serve from Moscow, very few from
St. Petersburg, because, honestly speaking,
those are wealthy cities.
People there find ways
to avoid military service by more
or less legal and illegal means. It’s rather hard to judge these
people. I am fundamentally
opposed to a conscript army; I believe
the army should be professional, contract-based. You need to
pay people properly, and those who want
to go there, run around there, and all that—I don’t
know, all this “if you didn’t serve, you’re not a man” stuff—
they go there, they get decent
money, and everything is fine. But here, all of this
works in such a way that they draft
these miserable, downtrodden
guys. But you’ve seen it yourselves: in any
social environment, that’s how it works. There’s always
someone at school, in a class,
who gets laughed at. Oh, oh God. Some people
take it good-naturedly, some are
just beaten down. In any group,
there is always someone who often becomes
the object of ridicule.
Some people can stand up for themselves, and some
can’t. And this whole idea that the army is
a school of life for men, that we have to send him there
and there he’ll start learning
to stand up for himself and become a man—hell, he
won’t learn anything there.
At 18, they’re basically children. Not only that,
some of these kids have only just come out from under
parental control, from under
the school principal’s control, and they start
throwing their weight around over the others. And if he’s
quiet and calm, or maybe even
quiet and withdrawn—after all, not everyone
has to be some kind of active,
aggressive, combative type. Maybe he’s just
that kind of person mentally,
a contemplative sort of guy. He just wants
to sit quietly in a corner
with his computer. Let him sit there—
that may be his calling. He’ll
work, find some kind of
profession, and find himself a girlfriend who
matches his personality. But instead we absolutely have to
shove him
into this army and say, come on, become a
man. And all this leads to is that he
just gets beaten there, gets his head shoved into
a toilet.
Nobody is better off because of it.
As for the country’s defense capability, it doesn’t
increase by even a second. All we’re doing is
tormenting and abusing a person,
and in one case out of a hundred, fortunately—or maybe
one out of a thousand—he just snaps,
takes an assault rifle, and shoots eight
people. And the reaction of the Ministry of Defense,
which is now sweeping it under the rug and
starting to tell us that all this
is nonsense, that it’s not really like that, that this is some
exceptional case—it shows that
this only makes things worse. We need to
acknowledge all these problems. It’s time, finally,
to say: either we move
toward a professional contract army, and then
there will be no draft, or, if—but they
are obsessed, Putin especially, he needs
this draft. Okay, if there’s going to be a draft, then
arrange everything in such a way as to
eliminate hazing and other unofficial abusive
relations one hundred percent. Of course, any group—
a male group especially—can always
be aggressive, toxic, and so
on. But it’s one thing to be a little
toxic and a little more aggressive
than some mixed group
of men and women; it’s another thing entirely
when there are beatings.
Then jail those who abuse people, fire those who
were supposed to supervise. And in general,
you won’t achieve much through repression alone; you need to change
the incentive system somehow so that there is no
dedovshchina (violent hazing of younger conscripts). It can
absolutely be removed and eradicated.
Maybe not by 80 percent or 70 percent,
but, as I said at the beginning, in
the Russian army, unfortunately, dedovshchina
is used as a method of control.
That is, you simply build a kind of
pyramid: here’s the officer, here are
some big, strong,
quick-thinking sergeants,
often also united into some kind of
regional clique, and they just beat people there and
force around the ones considered stupid. Like, if your
friend served in the army and you ask me
how it was, he says, yeah,
everything’s fine in the army if you’re not stupid,
he says. If you’re quick on your feet, then everything
will be fine for you. But if you’re not quick
and you’re stupid, then everything will go badly for you. Well,
damn, it just so happens that quite
a lot of people in our society are
commonly labeled as maybe not
quick, as stupid—but in fact they’re not; they’re just
quiet, shy, or
reserved, or for some other reason
they simply don’t have that kind of healthy
aggression. In that case, let’s just not
draft anyone into the army at all.
Carry out some kind of psychological
screening—who actually needs to be there and
The state has no task of sending them there.
So of course I would very, very much
like, first of all, for someone
in the Ministry of Defense to be punished.
Systematically—not just superficially. Of course they should
obviously be jailed, brought to criminal
liability. I think that is already
happening to some direct
commanders, but this is a systemic problem.
There, in the Ministry of Defense again,
there are heaps of these political officers,
political instructors, commissars—a huge, once again,
bloated segment that existed in the Soviet
army, then collapsed here, and then was
filled up again.
And so these political officers play an enormous
role. Well then, these political officers
who are supposed to work with the personnel,
let them be jailed then, or
fired, have their dachas taken away, have their
official cars taken away—someone must be
punished in a systemic way, at least
up to the level of deputy minister of
defense. Stress—2,000 people will be with us...
Live broadcast. A mid-level viewer asks me:
are you in favor of a professional army?
Absolutely, yes.
Russia has enough
money for Russia to have
a professional army. And modern
wars, modern methods of warfare, all of that
modern reality says that what is needed is
a professional army. It’s only us who are
engaged in some kind of
idiocy, like whatever Shoigu came up with
—these so-called scientific companies. So now we’ll
be processing students: if a student is from
some good university, it will be a scientific
company, and there they’ll ‘scientifically,’ so to speak,
wash floors,
clean toilets with mops,
but all of it will come with a label on their backs saying
‘scientific company.’ That’s the kind of
idiocy that needs to be abolished.
Is this possible under Putin and United Russia?
Ralph asks me about contract service.
I think it’s impossible, because Putin
belongs to that group of very stubborn,
very dense people on this issue who
for some reason maniacally believe that
conscription is necessary, and that conscription somehow
turns huge numbers of people—just
millions of young men in each generation—into
something better by passing them through the army, and then
there’s this idea that they were, like,
little boys with bags,
and then somehow, after all the marching and drills,
a year later they come out
of there as tough men. That doesn’t work at all
that way. Not to mention the fact that
Putin served, Medvedev served,
Shoigu didn’t—but still,
they think that everyone else
needs to be sent there, where of course
they get roughed up a bit, but afterward
they supposedly come out as real men and then
tell everyone: if you didn’t serve, you’re not a man.
Arthur van a superior—some tricky
message—asks me: what do you think about
the seizure of Grudinin’s sovkhoz (state farm)? Well, I think
it is, absolutely, lawlessness, and it is
completely illegal with regard to Grudinin.
It turns out this is connected to participation in elections. Konstantin
asks: Alexei, when do you think
funding for this kind of
cinema will end? And there was a wonderful investigation recently
published by Pozharsky/Dudinsky (unclear proper name): a major
study about how many films
that you and I financed through
the Ministry of Culture later earned
nothing—zero, or
The best example that immediately comes to mind is
one that practically begs for a lawsuit from the family—it comes to mind right away:
700 million rubles, and then there was
that Simonyan family—Margarita Simonyan and
one of them was the screenwriter of the film *Crimean
Bridge*,
the other was the director of the film *Crimean
Bridge*. They ‘used up’ about 100
million rubles on it, and obviously stole most of it.
Altogether, it took in at the box office
far less money than they were
allocated from the state budget for
the filming. So of course it’s obvious that this
will not stop; it will only keep growing,
because the tendency of our state
is to allocate more and more
money to all sorts of nonsense,
propaganda nonsense. I want to tell you
about something.
Something remarkable about the remarkable Kuban region (the area around Krasnodar) there
really illustrates this in a very vivid way.
Krasnodar Krai is always
a very special region. I like
talking about it; I often do,
because it’s like a strange Russian Chechnya (a reference to the North Caucasus republic known for its highly personalized power structure),
a region where there is a substantial amount of
Caucasian population, but overall it is
Russian. But the customs, the order of things, and the lawlessness there
are completely abnormal—impossible
to compare with other regions.
And this week they once again
became the subject of several absolutely striking
scandals. First and foremost,
there was an investigation by our штаб (campaign headquarters/team)
that told the story of one of the key
politician-businessmen of Krasnodar Krai,
a rather disgusting little character by the name of
deputy Remeshkov, who has been in
all the parties—United Russia, A Just
Russia—he’s been everywhere, he goes everywhere,
doing all sorts of absolutely astonishing
stupid things, making bombastic patriotic
statements, accusing everyone around him, saying that he
is the great patriot, while everyone else is of course
not patriotic at all and doesn’t know how to love the motherland.
To love it, that is.
And some rather interesting things came to light about him.
So, let's watch a short excerpt from our
investigation. It's a minute and a half long; you can
find the full version on our штаб (campaign headquarters) page
on our YouTube channel, our штаб's channel.
In Krasnodar, Remeshkov is a patriotic deputy, just as
all patriotic deputies are supposed to be, and
his children study abroad — in the United States, Austria,
and the United Kingdom — while the deputy himself settled
right in Krasnodar's
30th Anniversary of Victory Park, where there stands a huge, ugly
turquoise-colored house with white columns
and ornamentation. We'd call it a "bathhouse style"
for the nouveau riche, but Alexander Remeshkov
for some reason calls it the house of his dreams.
When investigators came to search the house, no one was allowed past
the garage.
Remeshkov's lawyer rushed over immediately
and declared that a search of the house could not be carried out
because a State Duma deputy was registered there.
Approaching from the sea:
a swimming pool measuring 117 square meters,
a three-story building with a sports
complex, and next to it a two-story guest
house of just over 700 square meters.
An open terrace with lawns and a fountain.
This appears to be the main building
of the residence.
The so-called rehabilitation center
has an area of 1,408 square meters. We are flying
over the estate in Dinsky District.
Here are three small structures: these are
guard houses, an ostrich pen, and a sports
ground with a tennis court. Here is the main
house with a greenhouse on the roof.
Nearby is a complex of two buildings housing
a swimming pool and a dining hall.
The area is 113 hectares, and the cadastral
value is 2.8 billion rubles.
Pushkinsky settlement. In March 2013,
the city administration, headed by
former mayor Viktor Khrestin,
included this territory in the city's master plan.
People connected to Remeshkov leased forest land here
and began selling it off
to third parties.
An ostrich-breeding farm. I mean,
seriously, just look:
a lifetime in public service, and property worth 3.5
billion rubles.
He sent all his children abroad and at the same time
keeps feeding us this line
that somehow we're all some kind of
foreign agents, that there's something wrong with all of us.
Meanwhile, he built ostrich-breeding farms here,
swimming pools,
I mean, it's all just so
typical of a Putin-era official.
Watch our штаб's (campaign headquarters') investigation, just
to once again appreciate, of course,
the vileness of all those people who
try to convince us that this is exactly how
Russia should be built, and that if we're against
their ostrich farms and all these
pools and assorted luxuries, then that means we're somehow
the problem.
Especially in Krasnodar Krai (region),
of all places.
They are constantly declaring that they are
some kind of foundation of spirituality and
statehood.
The Cossacks run around
breaking up rallies in Moscow — so why don't they come here
to Remeshkov's dacha
to break someone up there, or at least ask
the guy: where did you get the money for all this?
How did you build it? But better yet, many thanks
to our штаб in Krasnodar — great job, guys.
Excellent work. And it would be even better if they
went to another dacha, the one that
Gleb Pyanykh filmed this week.
Remember him, that legendary journalist
who worked on that very program
*Maximum* on NTV — scandals, intrigues,
investigations. He went there and was
detained, but nevertheless he filmed the dacha
of the governor of Krasnodar Krai. Roll it.
I may be standing near
the country residence of the governor
of Krasnodar Krai, Veniamin
Kondratyev. A huge area — 46
hectares. On the opposite bank you can see a church and
a small house right by the water. According to the documents, all of this
is agricultural land, and you are not allowed
to build on it — not even a single house or a church,
in fact, no permanent structures of any kind. But
that's forbidden for you and me. For Governor
Kondratyev, however, who is a great master of
land and property relations —
he spent 10 years as deputy head of
the Kuban administration (Kuban is a common name for Krasnodar Krai) for legal,
land, and property issues —
before I could finish filming, one
guard came through the reeds, another
drove up in a car, and they asked me
to go to the guard post.
The morning after my detention,
Governor Kondratyev was caught in the
corridors of power by the cool independent
journalist of Kuban, Vyacheslav Potapov.
Please tell us, why does your
dacha need a disco?
I've said more than once that I have nothing
to do with it. It wasn't me, and the house isn't mine — a classic
of the genre.
Maybe some people think it's wrong,
but come on, speak to people like a human being.
I mean, everyone knows it's your
dacha, that it's your daughter, and yet you come out to the public
and say: "It's not my dacha."
And I was watching and thinking: wow, I'd like
to be able to speak with those intonations about
Gleb Pyanykh, the governor's dacha. He is
of course our competitor on YouTube now,
but I'm happy to promote his channel.
Search for "Pyanykh,"
and you'll find his channel. He has around a hundred-and-something thousand subscribers.
We'll also put a link to it in the description,
because we
I like it when someone else does things like this too
— especially when they know how to do something
that we, in particular, don’t know how to do.
Like making such great lead-ins, with the right intonation.
And all sorts of other varied things.
Unfortunately, in Russia there’s enough of that to go around.
So Pyanykh is our competitor, but at the same time
he’s also, rather, a colleague as well.
So of course I’d like to encourage Gleb
and urge him to keep on
using that quadcopter of his that
filmed everyone and showed all
these things. But there was also a great third scandal.
And that same Governor Kondratyev
was sitting together with his deputy,
a man named Alekseenko, at some local
gathering — basically some kind of conference.
Some woman or man there
was, naturally, talking about all the successes
here and there — milk yields here, and
bees, hotels, foxes, all that sort of thing — while the
people at the presidium were, like, sorting out their little issues.
But they forgot to turn off the microphone, and
so all the journalists who were there
later, in the footage of the whole event,
you can see that some main speaker is
mumbling, but over that mumbling you can still
make out how the governor and his
deputy are, basically, sorting out their little issues there.
It’s quite a curious dialogue, but I’ve got just
27 seconds of it, while the full thing is nine or
ten minutes long — you can easily find it on YouTube.
I want to show you the part where they discuss
the political setup and, in particular,
assess the prospects of their beloved
party, United Russia, which in Kuban (the Krasnodar region)
still, well, obviously,
thanks to falsification, formally racks up a lot
of percentage points. Members of United Russia —
the governors of one of Russia’s most populous
regions — what do they think
about their own party?
[applause]
Wonderful words. We’ll clip them up and use them everywhere.
As captions: “United Russia
is dead.”
That’s it, it no longer exists, this party,
says the deputy governor to his
governor. So come on, let’s
come up with a different scheme. United Russia
is dead; we have to finish it off completely,
to finally kill off this bastard.
I don’t feel a bit sorry for it. It’s already dead in terms of
the real — rather, the actual
people willing to vote for it. But we
have to finish the job, shove
its disgusting corpse into some, I don’t know,
grave, dig it, bury it, and
sow the whole place with burdock or something, mm,
or do something else like that. And so
that’s why we will continue
to campaign against United Russia
directly in the elections. And this video
should
personally really inspires me. I
hope it inspired you too, so that
you simply understand how they talk among themselves
about their own United Russia: United
Russia is dead, dead and gone, United Russia.
The next matter is called something like this:
“United Russia is dead.” And we see the clearest signs
of why it
died in the city of Krasnoturyinsk.
Not long ago, there was a State Duma election there,
and they elected this guy there,
a guy who is a famous
Olympic champion in biathlon,
a wonderful, outstanding athlete.
Only for some damn reason he decided to run from
United Russia for the State Duma, and by doing that
he showed that while he may have been
a good athlete, as a person he’s a disgusting
crook. And not only is he a disgusting
person and a crook, but he also became part of
a vile fraudulent party. Apparently he
together with those people who matter there
was very upset that in the city of
Krasnoturyinsk
not that many people voted for him.
He was counting on more than 50 percent, but there
he got 39 percent, meaning
everyone else — that is, the majority of people —
voted against him. And they really
somehow punished all the residents of the city of
Krasnoturyinsk.
What’s more, the city’s mayor, right at a meeting
with residents, in the presence of, I don’t know,
microphones, cameras, everything else, just
said it outright: “Guys,
listen, we didn’t get
some number of millions of rubles
— our budget was cut because you voted the wrong way.
This is the ruling party, and if
we don’t support the ruling party, if we didn’t vote for
Shipulin,
our masters punish us, they punish us.
So let’s bow lower
to our masters like serfs, and then
we’ll get money.” Let’s watch: one minute thirty
seconds of something absolutely outrageous.
One statement after another, and we’re back to something like 2009
or 2012: just enough for maintenance, salaries,
utilities — and no investment at all.
My dear colleagues, on May 17 there will be
the next election — a by-election to the
Legislative Assembly of Sverdlovsk
Region.
Because Anatoly Petrovich left us,
and accordingly, if we vote
the same way or even worse, then
accordingly, you will get nothing. I am from
United Russia — I’m not naming the party, but this is
our reality.
And at the present moment, in the State
Duma, two-thirds are the ruling party, and they distribute
funding to the regions.
In the Legislative Assembly of Sverdlovsk
Region.
Two-thirds of the ruling party distributes
funding to the municipality.
And the authorities are asking us: support
our candidate. Dear friends, let us
support them.
I want to say once again: on the 8th, we
voted; on the 13th, we got the result. As of
today, we do not have two schools, and we do not have
the roller-ski track either, the one they
promised to build for us.
Today, Anton Shipulin was here; I spoke with him.
I asked him today, in
Yekaterinburg, regarding the work,
to raise these issues further.
But please understand this correctly.
And, dear friends, I want to say once again: we
may feel differently about this,
but this is the result of the attitude toward the city
of Krasnokamensk.
34,500 are watching live. Hello
to everyone who has just joined. I
hope you are as outraged as I am. This is
just some guy saying, look,
using these verbal constructions, well, you can
have different attitudes, like,
sure, it's clear that you may
be against United Russia, against Putin,
you may have some right-wing or left-wing views,
but guys, you still have to vote for
them, because otherwise, as he said, they will not
build us a school. [__] Quite simply, we
have to vote for them, otherwise they will not
give us our own money,
the money we paid in taxes,
to build a school. Yes, I do not know
how many people after this in
Krasnoturyinsk will vote for United
Russia, but I would like that number to be zero. Well,
this is simply beyond belief now. We all
roughly understood that this is how the system works,
but now they are just coming out and saying,
well, what, you did not vote the right way? Then no school for you.
You did not vote for a United Russia candidate,
so what school do you expect? You need a school? You
will be digging through garbage bins like
the people in the most widely discussed
— no, it became the most popular, the most
high-profile video, probably, this
week that I saw. It was in Yakutsk.
Someone filmed from their window how
a large family, as it later turned out,
a family with many children, and there were children with them.
It was actually a rather disturbing video.
They were literally digging through a garbage bin.
They looked decent enough, not at all like
homeless people or drunks or anything like that.
And they were digging through the garbage bin in order
to get a little food. This was in Yakutsk,
which is generally considered to have fairly
high salaries. Let us watch the 29
seconds that really, truly
shook social media. Any
person would have felt strong emotions
about this.
Here are people with children, with bags and nets and everything.
It did not look spontaneous at all; it looked like
a planned, apparently regular operation:
drive up to the dumpster, rummage through it,
pull out food products, and take those
products home. And the authorities' reaction was
immediate: they stated that yes,
it really was a large family,
and that they would finally
place two of the children in kindergarten, whereas before
they had not done that, and they would help
the mother find employment. Well, okay.
We can assume, sure, that
this may be a troubled family, or that alcohol
is involved, or something else, yes. But why then
could these children not have been
placed in kindergarten earlier? Why did it take
a video recording of people digging through
a dumpster to become both
a social elevator and a method of solving
social problems? Until you are shown
digging through trash, your children will not be
placed in kindergarten. Could this not have been done earlier?
Again, I think there
may be a whole lot of explanations here.
Maybe these people are somehow 'not the right kind of people,' maybe they do not
want to work, or there will be some explanation
that we tried to place them somewhere,
but they did not go to work, they do not want
to work, they want to dig through trash.
I doubt that is the case, but even if
it were, you understand, it is still impossible
against the backdrop of all this to have what
I am about to show you now, which you have seen many times:
38 seconds of how, in Russia, they continue
to destroy food.
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Hundreds of thousands of tons of food have been destroyed across
Russia in recent years. This is
the very essence of the so-called anti-sanctions: products
of high quality are destroyed because
Putin introduced his idiotic
so-called anti-sanctions, and the products
are destroyed, crushed, and everyone cries out, what the hell,
give them to the poor, for example,
give them to those who are digging through trash. But
no, that cannot be done. Let them dig through
trash. But people do not do that out of a good life.
They are still digging there; maybe
it is a troubled family, but probably from
society's point of view, we still do not
want to see this. And whatever the parents
may be like, maybe they are not sufficiently
hardworking, but surely we would want
that even if
they have introduced their idiotic
anti-sanctions and they do not want
European food to be sold in stores,
then let them confiscate it and give it to people like
those digging through trash. But no,
this state will never do
anything like that. Everything has to be kept separate:
here we will destroy it, and you who do not have enough—
you’ll go and dig through this garbage dump
that’s why United Russia has died off
as we were just told
as the deputy just stated
the deputy governor said, while the governor was nodding
his head—so, I can see that I have
someone with the username “Big Pfft” asks
Patrick Patriot from Putin 7—there will be something about Malkin
quite a lot has already been said about Malkin
but maybe I’ll tell you something more
interesting about it next time. This week I
had these two really striking
video interviews with Putin supporters, and one
Kuchinsky
and the other pro-Putin one was especially impressive in how
they showed themselves off. I wanted to show you
some clips from these interviews. I hope
the owners
of these interviews won’t get me banned. They’re
completely different: one is very pleasant
—that’s journalist Golovin from Sports.ru. The other
is Ksenia Sobchak, who I find rather unpleasant, but
they both did an excellent job in these interviews
with those very Putin supporters, once again showing us
—good Lord—who this regime actually
relies on. First of all, well,
there’s that, and secondly they’re just
genuinely such crooks. But first let’s
look at footballer Dmitry Tarasov
He’s a footballer, but those who aren’t really
interested in football probably know him first and foremost
because of this
famous photo, where at one of the
matches he lifted his jersey and it said “Putin”
“the most polite president.” He was so
proud of it. Later he was fined for it
because you weren’t allowed to do things like that there
but still, all we hear is that everyone here
loves Vladimir Putin—just absolutely
can’t get enough of him. And there was a really great
long interview—you can find
it on Alexander Golovin’s channel, on
the Sports.ru channel. But I want to
show you just over a minute from it so that we can
take another look at these
people and think: damn, so this is
his support group. Unfortunately, these are people who
really seem to struggle with
any kind of mental effort, and that’s why
we need to be ten times more
active, because somehow we need to
outvote them or persuade them
Maybe this Tarasov isn’t actually such a
bad person—maybe he just needed to be given
a few assignments, then handed some
book or article to read, some kind of image
to look at
Dmitry Tarasov, when you were asked this winter
about Putin, you answered:
“I like the way he governs the country.” And are there
any things about his leadership
that you don’t like? “Well, there are probably many
things, but he’s our president, I love him.” Could you
name three examples—three complaints about
what you don’t like? “I don’t even want to
go down that road, but I respect him
and support him. That’s enough. Why criticize him?”
According to Rosstat data from July 2019
—that’s the official statistics agency—
it turned out that in Russia, 21 million
people are poor. What do you make of that
statistic? Who is to blame for it? What do you think?”
I asked you whether someone is to blame. Do you think
someone is? “Well, it’s probably in the regions
where people—it all happens there, poverty in
general is worsening, and of course he can’t
keep track of absolutely everything, simply
physically—it’s just too much work. I mean, you
just think about what his
workday must be like. Sometimes I just
try to imagine it somehow
—how his day starts, to picture it
with the sheer amount of things he has going on there
the headaches, everything that happens—and
it’s completely impossible to keep track of it all”
Look, here’s another statistic: in
Russia, around 10 million people live
without a heated indoor toilet. Do you think
Putin is to blame for that too? “A heated
toilet—when you don’t have to run outside the house
somewhere, and it’s not pouring over you, and it’s not
unheated either—is that what you mean?”
If you think about it further, you could list a million
more things about how people live and what
has been done for people—how many centers,
how many churches have been built
What, isn’t that progress? Why not churches?
Why not?
He’s done a lot for Russia. How many churches
have been built? We have 10 million people
below the poverty line. “Well, somewhere out in the regions
you can’t argue with that.” Well done,
Dmitry figured it out: it’s in the regions, yes—
in particular in Yakutia (Sakha Republic), where people are
digging through garbage. And who, exactly, is to blame for that?
Well, of course it won’t be him. Of course Trump
is to blame, of course. The ones responsible, damn, for the fact that
someone in Yakutia is digging through trash
are, naturally, some other people
“Gayrope” (a derogatory Russian slang term for Europe) is to blame for the fact that in Kaluga or
Oryol people work on collective farms for 12,000 rubles (about 190 USD at the time)
a month. Well, whatever, somewhere out in the regions—that’s
how it is. Meanwhile, our footballers
—look, this one has a Lamborghini
and that one has a Bentley, all with red leather
interiors. Nice.
Putin is doing right by us. Just look:
in the description of this video there will be a link to
the full interview. Watch it, and just once again
think about whether you want your
future, and the future of your children, to be shaped
for a very substantial period—20 years—by people like this
That’s what it comes down to: footballer Tarasov wants
to rule over you. And Putin, after all, represents
the interests of footballers like Tarasov and others like him
and they determine everything. You really don’t want
that, do you? Really, let him just play
football. Footballer Tarasov shouldn’t be given
Let him play football, win medals,
and bask in the glory, and we will all
shout, and I will stand in the stadium
shouting, "Go, footballer Tarasov!" Well,
I would simply like it if
the political interests of the country's development
were ultimately guided not by the thoughts, not by
the single thought of footballer Tarasov
about churches, but by something else.
At this point, that is not even a question for him. That's just who he is.
He is what he is, and he too has the right to let them
come out, after all. You can all go to hell,
while he is a footballer.
I'm speaking politely about the man, but our duty
is to be far more active than that.
team
Malkov, Tarasov, and other wonderful
people, including Margarita Simonyan,
who seems to have had some kind of split
in her interview with Ksenia
Sobchak, because this is exactly
two
two completely different Putin-era archetypes.
There is footballer Tarasov, and with him
everything is very clear. He is, how to put it,
to be polite, someone who knows very little,
has read very little,
loves churches, and thinks that people in the regions are just...
that Putin works very hard,
that he has a lot of different
issues to deal with, and therefore the fact that millions
are poor is not Putin's fault. And then there is
another type.
Another Putin-era—or supposedly Putin-era—
slick, somewhat crooked, very smart
and sophisticated Margarita Simonyan.
A generalized Margarita Simonyan was cultivated
as a response to certain Western
propagandists—a seemingly cunning
auntie who is never at a loss for words,
yes, she could eat them alive, but nevertheless
the moment she comes to an interview,
she is supposed to destroy anyone, including Ksenia
Sobchak, who is herself quite a Putin-era
operator.
But it turned out—good Lord—that even
the leader of the Putin-era crooks,
journalists, and PR people is simply not
capable of answering a single question
that is not on the list. In fact, a condition
of the interview, as we later found out—and there will also be
a link in the description to the full
video—they actually demanded from
Sobchak the questions in advance, received them, and then
started getting up and leaving when Sobchak
began asking—quite rightly—
some other questions. A minute and a half
of absolute failure from what is called
the best Putin-era journalist. But you know,
this story about
burgers.
Was it Putin who gave the order?
Did he fire them, or did he reprimand them there, or
did you already know about it? And again:
"Let's put it this way: next time I will simply
get up and leave." But this is just mind-boggling.
A fighter.
"We didn't have that, you don't know, that's
nonsense. You remember the questions." But they
simply wanted to make sure that we
stayed within our rights, and she herself said
that we could talk more. I had agreed this topic with you.
"No, but..."
"Listen, I am not deceiving you in any way, I am not
asking any questions that would
compromise you. Why are you even... why
are you cutting the interview short now? You know,
I had approval only for what we
had agreed on. Do you want to
smuggle in, one way or another, those
questions that we had not agreed on?
You have become some kind of policy manager.
"Listen, but I am not asking any such
questions that would make you leave, Marg...
It's strange to walk out in the middle
of an interview, and I am not asking you anything right now
that is out of bounds.
"Fine, yes, I mean, listen, I absolutely...
I don't even have... I...
The finale, well...
Good Lord, honestly, it is hard for me
even to imagine this,
because first of all,
journalists approach me quite often,
I give a great many interviews,
and yes, it is hard to imagine saying
to any journalist: "Okay, I agree
to the interview, but guys, send me
the questions first." First, you would never say that.
And second, if you say that
otherwise they will tear you to pieces,
well then if they send the questions
for the interview,
you read them, and then they ask you a different
question on camera, you say: "Guys, look,
I agreed the topics with you.
Why create hype here over topics that were not agreed? Well,
that is simply impossible. Then why
get involved in anything resembling journalism at all?
And then she proudly declares that our channel, Russia
Today, is somehow fighting Western
propaganda.
There are people who believe that there is
some kind of organized Western
propaganda. Margarita Simonyan
talks about this constantly, that we are fighting it.
Well, at the very least, one would assume that
if 20 billion rubles are being spent to fight
Western propaganda, then for those
20 billion rubles we would see a person
capable not only of eating a beaver
but also of answering some simple
questions without preparation. Something like:
"Did your people take part in this or not?
We never lie here..."
The main thing is not to laugh while answering
that question. All she had to do was
Margarita Simonyan
but she couldn't even do that, and yet
a film made with 100 million rubles in state budget money
parachutes for 20 billion, and so on, and
and so on and so on, and so on, so
on and on—this is, of course, absolutely, well
an astonishing file, and once again, Putin's
Tarasov, Simonyan—that is the
far-off... right now there exists the largest
in operation
country in the world called Russia, and they
its owners—Putin is, of course, the
main beneficiary there, but this whole
retinue will keep ruling over us endlessly until
the moment when we become a hundred times
more active than they are. But their rule, their ruling,
will look more and more
problematic, because their chief
grandpa has, of course, just completely
slipped into senility
and now, well, I'm not trying to insult him
actually, it's simply a real thing, and
I'm trying to convince you of it—just think about it
really, no jokes, no snide remarks
I mean, it all sounds funny
it looks funny, but seriously, without any mockery
I insist that, unfortunately,
at this point he really is senile, and he himself
said many times that if you spend 10 years
in power, you'll go insane. He
has been there for 20 years, for 20 years people have been singing his praises
for 20 years his inner circle has been
footballer Tarasov and Margarita Simonyan
just imagine spending 20 years in a
room with Tarasov, a byword for that type, and
Simonyan—you'd go mad, of course, and he
did go mad, and simply
at the latest meeting in Kaliningrad there was
a meeting on healthcare
you know, healthcare has enormous
problems, absolutely enormous ones, but what Putin said there
really showed that, of course, he
is already—well, he's not in touch with reality, he's fallen into
senility. In particular, one of the ideas that
came to him right there in
Kaliningrad about how to fix Russian
healthcare—well, let him say it himself
I can't even repeat it
here, just listen to what he is proposing
Vladimir Putin is proposing that we make a breakthrough—he loves breakthroughs—
in the field of healthcare
by the way, what a thought occurred to him
that medical students could
organize something like student
clinical construction brigades—there are
specialized brigades
they too could travel around the country and
provide help to people at a lower level, at the kind of level
that, of course, they are not actually able to
do
thank you very much, do you understand, but
basically, why is grandpa sinking
deeper and deeper into senility? Because
there have to be some obstacles
in the way of your senile actions
if I were here doing—that is, if I kept
hosting while he keeps ruling there, and no one
if I kept doing these live streams endlessly
and spouting some senile nonsense, you
there are 300,000 people watching me right now
live—there would probably be a signal that
something was wrong with me, that I'd gone senile
there would be a sharp drop in views, I mean
there is some kind of barrier, and your comments
would be pretty harsh. But he
has no such barrier. He said this, and my God
and no one reacted like this, and no one
said, “How did that thought even enter your head?”
what the hell kind of
medical students
how can they possibly treat anyone
medical students
sent around in the form of mobile brigades
medical students are all kinds of people, there are
studious medical students, there are ordinary ones
cheerful drunks, and
slacker medical students, so out of all these
different kinds of medical students, in the end
after many, many years of study and
unlike lawyers, who are done in four years
or even two, a doctor needs
about nine years of training
only those who have gone through all that
serious training and passed the exams become doctors
what kind of medical students does Putin think these are, really?
Seriously
his idea of healthcare seems to be that
all across the country people are standing in lines
this one needs a bandage here, that one
has a hurt finger, this one needs a plantain leaf applied
and those two got into a fight, so he, well,
needs some iodine dabbed on here, and someone else
needs a vaccination, and of course
medical students will arrive, this kind of mobile
work brigade (a Soviet-style student labor brigade), like in those old
brigades—you can ask
your parents, maybe someone themselves
was in one, or you've seen them in movies too: cheerful
slightly tipsy guys in these
camouflage jackets and those hats
that tie up like this, and they
come out and start
taking temperatures, dab iodine on this one
give that one a shot, and off they go
to the next village. What incredible
healthcare organization. Let
Putin himself, in his own Fourth Directorate (the elite Kremlin medical system),
while they build some kind of super-mega
hospital that will serve
officials—maybe that super-mega
hospital should be made for ordinary people, and
officials can be served by flying
medical student brigades
made up of students, and there they are
arriving to treat the governor here
and the minister there, driving around the country like that
It's genuine senility. And it's serious
senility, because he's saying this not
just as some kind of joke, even though you
She laughed there, told a joke, I can...
show it, and the joke, which also, basically...
well...
here, this kind of list...
of signs of senility, this joke...
can certainly also become an unspoken...
great-grandmother... he adores his great-grandmother's horses.
This reminds me of a conversation at a legal
consultation, when an old woman comes in and
asks the lawyers, 'Do I have the right?' 'You do.'
The old woman says, 'Well no, I want to ask whether I have the right'
'whether I have the right.' 'Yes, you do...'
'Can I or not?' 'No, granny, you can't.'
And everyone laughed.
You see, a construction brigade joke about
an old woman.
And that's how the meeting on
healthcare issues went, while at the same time
the Doctors' Alliance is heading to Sochi.
Krasnodar Krai is a rich, fat region.
In any case, it's the place where Putin spends
probably most of his time during the
year, and for the most part he runs the whole
country when he's hanging out there in those...
in Sochi itself, and with the Sochi hospital...
Let's watch a few seconds
from there and just estimate whether
these mobile
medical student brigades will help with anything.
So it turns out that, uh, what are you supposed to do when there isn't...
time... how do you treat patients? Did you buy it yourself
or did they buy it? Wait, your salary is 26,000 rubles (about $280),
and you buy the medications needed for
the patients yourself?
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Let's go.
Valentina, it seemed that this was one in your
department... to worry, and constantly... I
worked from May to August... yes, we have
a problem: doctors' salaries are 25,000 rubles (about $270), plus
they have to buy bandages and expensive
medications for patients themselves. And how do we respond
to that? Mobile student brigades?
What was still needed was, like in my favorite
cartoon, *The Simpsons*, when the kids
were pitching different ideas to the school principal,
someone should have come out and said: 'Chocolate
microscopes.'
Double guitars. Well, it's just that someone has
some really strange ideas.
A state meeting on
healthcare issues, the president is sitting there, and our
healthcare system has simply fallen apart
to the point that doctors buy bandages themselves,
and there they are, joking around, and this idea
came into his head about
mobile student brigades. That made me
furious, and that's why right now I
we have 37.4 thousand watching us live, and later even
more people will watch online. Guys,
think about this. He really has, unfortunately,
slipped into senility.
It's a natural evolutionary process.
How far they've all gone there...
Margarita Simonyan is still in her right mind, and she
gets a lot of money, several times more than a footballer...
they're all... but the old man is senile, and they
are taking advantage of him, various people, and we must
be active. We must save our country from
senility.
Wake up. We will keep working on this
constantly, and in particular next
Thursday we will, at the very least, make
some new contribution of our own to the fight against
this senility. Thank you very much to everyone who
watched. Bye.
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