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Hello everyone. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow. Alexei Navalny is in the studio.

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Navalny.

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Or, as the man who supposedly longs to be

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arrested—as I was literally called yesterday by the Russian representative to the European

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Court of Human Rights.

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Court of Human Rights.

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I may well be arrested, but for now I'm

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here, live on air.

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Please send me your questions on

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Twitter with the hashtag #Navalny2018. We'll

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be discussing today's topics, and I

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will be answering your questions. But to begin,

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of course, I want to start with the fact that

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I've been labeled that way, so that's where I'll begin.

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I'll say what I very much want to say:

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the most important thing right now is

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what I really could be

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arrested for. Yes, absolutely, I am calling on

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all of you to come out to the rallies on January 28 in

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Moscow and St. Petersburg.

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Especially because in Moscow and

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St. Petersburg, the authorities have become so brazen

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that they have essentially declared that

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they will never again

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authorize our rallies, and instead offer us

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some

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completely humiliating alternatives like:

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go to Sokolniki and protest in the woods.

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So I want to state this absolutely clearly and plainly.

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A big hello to everyone at City Hall who

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just said a minute ago that

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if calls to attend the January 28 rally do not stop,

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they will appeal to the prosecutor's office.

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Go ahead and appeal to the prosecutor's office, dear

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Muscovites,

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this Sunday, January 28, come out to the

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protest at 2:00 p.m. on Tverskaya Street.

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In St. Petersburg, come to

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the wonderfully named Proletarian Dictatorship

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Square at 2:00 p.m.

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This is the most important thing you can

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do right now. In politics, there are different things—

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some more important, some less important,

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different strategies, different kinds of effectiveness—but

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one thing is absolutely certain:

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and

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it would be very hard to argue with

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the view that the most important thing

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every person can do right now is come out to a

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protest rally. Because politics in

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Russia today—where they don't let us onto the

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ballot,

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where the mass media won't let us in,

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where it's impossible to win a court case against

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an official, where even local deputies—

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local deputies themselves—like Yashin and

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the Krasnoselsky District council, who again applied for

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Sakharov Avenue, and were denied.

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Several dozen deputies

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appealed to Moscow City Hall: allow

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the January 28 rally—what are you doing?

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But they still won't allow it. So in this

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situation, when absolutely everything is forbidden to us,

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the main thing every

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person can do, and the most effective thing he or she can

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do,

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is go out into the street with a peaceful protest.

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We have the right to protest, and let's

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be honest: right now, all the other

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things we can do—we should

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write columns, of course, we can

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engage in public education, we can

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work on the foundations of civil society, and so

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on. All of that is great, but it is also quite

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secondary. If we want to achieve

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results, we need to stand our ground, we

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need to come out. That's how it works all over the

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world, not just in Russia—even in

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developed societies. I wrote about this in a post today,

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and I'll repeat it: look at the United States, or

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France, or the United Kingdom. Good Lord,

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you'd think those people wouldn't need to go out into the

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streets—they should just vote, and they

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do vote. They have politicians

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they nominate, and those politicians

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are registered,

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so it would seem there is no reason

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at all to be out there in the streets doing anything. And yet

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their mass media are

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open, and there are many, many, many different

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mechanisms for influencing public life: you

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can form associations,

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nonprofits, you can create

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trade unions, workplace collectives, speak out

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for something—and all of that happens, all of that is done. But the most important thing

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is still this:

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politics is made by people who go out

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into the streets and declare their demands.

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Only in this way will those demands

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be heard, even by society itself.

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Only in this way does society itself

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become aware of what is actually happening within it,

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of what is building up inside it.

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Because, look, before our

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March 26 rally, there was nothing at all in the public

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conversation, on the agenda, about

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young people, school students, and all the rest.

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By the way, today is Student's Day (a Russian holiday also known as Tatiana's Day).

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Congratulations to all students, and to all

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Tatianas in particular.

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Special congratulations to you. We held the rally on the 26th,

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and quite a lot of

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young people came out. We are proud that young people

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support us. And look—Putin

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suddenly started rushing around schools, and special

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bloggers

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are speaking in the Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament), and whole targeted

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programs are being adopted, and now Putin is making his

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presidential campaign launch

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not only at a factory, but also at a

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gathering of volunteers, where mostly

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young people were present. Everything changed. Why? Because

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they saw it—this youth is here.

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People took to the streets, so that’s probably what this is about.

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We need to talk about it: it happened, it became

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a fact of political life in 2012,

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until, when we stopped taking to the

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streets, all of it was rolled back. But

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at first, it looked like there had been gains: it was announced that

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gubernatorial elections were being brought back,

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it was announced—and implemented—that

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far fewer signatures would be required for presidential elections,

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and that the registration process for

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political parties would be almost

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notification-based. It didn’t apply to everyone,

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and it didn’t apply to us,

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but if back then we had

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held out longer—not just

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for essentially one year, 2012,

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but kept it going beyond that—

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the consequences would have been completely different.

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We just need to work persistently. This is

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the political work of every individual:

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to go out into the streets and demand what is yours.

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If we don’t do that, we won’t achieve anything.

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If you don’t come out to rallies, guys, then don’t

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complain that your life is bad,

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don’t complain that your salary is low,

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don’t complain that awful Putin is jailing

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someone over posts on VKontakte (a Russian social network), or

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some film director. He does it because

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he meets no resistance from society.

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Society, society—they count only

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rallies. Those guys in the Kremlin

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—those crooks—

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they only count rallies. Everything else

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matters to them to a much, much lesser

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degree. When pensioners came out to protest then,

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against the monetization of benefits (the replacement of in-kind social benefits with cash payments),

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they immediately got results. That’s exactly how it

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works. And, in fact, the Kremlin itself

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is making it very clear to us right now: yes, yes,

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yes—this is the only thing we’re afraid of,

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the only thing we take into

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account. Because right now there are some

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political events going on,

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supposedly elections, but everything happening in

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politics is the wrecking of our headquarters. I’ve

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got a whole report here, but I’ll

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just say that in only the last

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few days we’ve had 38 real

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raids on our offices, with seizures of at

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least leaflets. Everywhere they’re looking for leaflets

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inviting people even to authorized

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events. That is, we have more than 100

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cities taking part in the January 28 action,

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this Sunday. In only a minimal

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number of cities were we denied approval; in

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95 percent of cases everything was approved. But

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even leaflets for approved

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events are being confiscated. Why? Because

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they’re afraid. They want fewer people to show up.

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It’s very important to them that the factor of

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cold weather works, and the second factor is simply the lack of

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information. That’s why there are real

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pogrom-like attacks on our offices. You know, I’m going to

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talk about this in detail—at even greater length.

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A legal entity of ours was liquidated in a completely

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illegal way—our legal entity,

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through which we had been organizing

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the voters’ strike earlier in

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the campaign. Our campaign account was frozen

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in a highly outrageous

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manner—I’ll talk about that too. So we

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have adjusted things here, and today I’m

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announcing Operation Phoenix.

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To bring us back, 2.3 million

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rubles of your money are frozen in the account, and they

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think that by doing this they’ve

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eliminated our legal entity and that we won’t

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be able to do anything. But, in fact, that’s exactly why

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we

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planned ahead and learned how to collect

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donations here on YouTube.

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So I set a target—I asked them to set

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the target at 2.3 million rubles,

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exactly the amount of money they

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froze in the account. Over the course of probably

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several broadcasts, of course, I

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plan to raise it. So I call on all

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of you to take part in this very Operation

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Phoenix and show everyone that they will not succeed

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in stopping us this way. The police

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forces being deployed are, of course,

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absolutely astonishing: dozens of police officers come,

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they monitor our

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activists and volunteers handing out

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leaflets; entire squads follow them around,

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whole squads.

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You can see video now

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from different cities showing how these

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police raids are carried out, and it’s absolutely

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astonishing. It’s not just confiscations—

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there are also, of course, outright

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arrests, and they are completely illegal.

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They are meant simply to obstruct

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the holding of our actions. Our biggest

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personnel losses have been in Rostov-on-Don,

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where there was a loss:

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one person was given 10 days in detention,

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another person 8 days. These losses are reversible,

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fortunately, but even so they

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are trying to derail these actions this way.

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So, Rostov-on-Don, come out

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without fail—this is how you answer all of this.

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There are also various fines against us.

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So far, the leader in detentions is

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Omsk: eight people detained.

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In Penza, three people. The most aggressive

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administrations are in Pskov and

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St. Petersburg: there, constantly, several times,

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they come after our people. But we

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are absolutely not afraid of this, and we

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are absolutely not going to stop. And we

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know and understand that if we do not

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do this, if we do not

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organize ourselves in order to go out

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into the streets, everything will lose its meaning. Or rather,

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no, that’s not quite right—by itself it won’t

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lose its meaning at all, but

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the effectiveness of all this will drop many times over.

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By the way, remember the Coordination

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Council, which many consider a rather un

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successful project—the Opposition Coordination Council,

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which was created in the wake of

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those protest rallies in 2011.

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When those rallies were taking place,

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there were polls by the Public Opinion Foundation

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commissioned by the Kremlin, and about which

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we later learned from hacked

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correspondence of Kremlin officials, who

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were simply shocked that the polls at the time

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their sociologists were conducting showed something like

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20, 30, even 35 percent of people—and in some places almost

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40 percent—were ready to vote in

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elections for the Opposition Coordination Council.

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Why was this happening? Because

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rallies themselves change

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public opinion. People sit there and

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think, in whatever city they live in,

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whether Omsk or Penza, “Well, here

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everyone is for Putin, here everyone thinks these elections

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are real elections, and I’m the only one here

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in all of Omsk sitting around being clever and

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thinking this isn’t really an election. But I’m alone,

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so I’d better keep quiet. I feel that

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if I speak up too much...” And then, bang—

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a rally happens, and

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several thousand people come out, a couple thousand

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people, and any observer

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realizes that things are not like that at all. If, in

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freezing weather, under bans and

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obstruction, thousands of people come out,

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that means millions stand behind this idea.

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So, folks,

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this Sunday, come out in every city—well,

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in every major city. Find the link in

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the description, find your city, and join in.

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Once again: Moscow, Tverskaya Street.

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Any point on Tverskaya Street, from Mayakovskaya

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to Manezhnaya. Come, or walk counterclockwise,

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or, if you want,

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if you want to gather somewhere, then at

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the Mayakovsky monument.

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St. Petersburg: Proletarian Dictatorship Square

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also at 2:00 p.m. In

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the description there’s a link—find your city there

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and come. Now let’s discuss how

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the big cities are going to vote.

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Our polling service operates

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thanks to the money that you

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send us. Last time

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we published the results of a nationwide

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survey.

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But now it’s important—very important—for us to understand

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what is happening in the big cities.

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Many people think—or rather, not just think,

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it is partly true—that there is, broadly speaking,

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this thing called Russia as a whole,

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a bit backward, because there

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most people mainly watch television, and television

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is the main source of information.

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And then there are more advanced cities. These advanced

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cities ought to

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vote quite differently,

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in a rather distinctive way compared

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with the rest of the country, and

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they ought to think differently, they ought to

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view elections differently, they ought to view

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candidates differently.

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That was very interesting to us, especially since

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you and I are, broadly speaking,

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the party of the big cities,

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in the broadest sense of the term.

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Because those who watch this program,

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those who take part in our movement, are people

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who live in cities and use

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modern means of communication,

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above all the internet. And we conducted

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a survey in Yekaterinburg because it is

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a typical city of over one million people.

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Voting results in Yekaterinburg

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are usually very similar to the results

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in Moscow, and now we

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will see what

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Yekaterinburg tells us, and we’ll know what

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the large, biggest cities generally think

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about what is happening in these elections.

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Let’s first look at slide

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number one, about overall awareness of

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the elections—how many people know about them.

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Look: 91 percent. By the way,

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it’s actually pretty funny.

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We have an app both for

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iPhone and for Android, and quite a lot of

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people now—thousands of people—listen to this

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program, and our channel in general, like radio, and

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last time I showed slides but didn’t

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read them out, and I got a lot of

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indignant responses like, “Read them out! We

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can’t see what you’re showing there.”

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So I’ll read them out. Please bring back

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the slide. So, awareness is very

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high: 91 percent of people

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know that there will be this

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procedure that is called an election.

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Eight percent have heard something about it. So

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television has done its job, the electoral commission is working.

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Next, we

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asked residents of Yekaterinburg,

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that is, residents of all major cities: whom

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have they heard will be taking part

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in the elections? And we see the results on

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the next slide.

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Ninety-one percent of people—that is,

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almost everyone—know about Putin. In second

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place is Sobchak, just as in

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the rest of Russia: basically everyone

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has heard of Putin and Sobchak; they

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get a lot of airtime on television.

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Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky—and the same picture

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as across the country emerged

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in Yekaterinburg.

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Every fourth person thinks that Zyuganov is running in the election,

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and 22 percent of people think

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that Mironov is running, though neither

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one nor the other is actually running. But somehow people

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still have that idea in their heads, so

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we also asked here about Grudinin.

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Grudinin is very interesting here, so let’s

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look at the next slide.

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We asked an open-ended question: who is running from

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the CPRF (Communist Party of the Russian Federation), and 30 to 32 percent of people

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say that it is Grudinin — they know correctly — but

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13 percent of people still believe

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that it is Zyuganov, while 51 percent

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have difficulty answering and simply cannot

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say who is running from the CPRF.

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Let’s move on to the last two and most important

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slides — the candidate ratings, essentially.

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First, out of the full 100 percent of respondents.

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That is, we ask:

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“Who would you vote for

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next Sunday if the election were held

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next Sunday?” The most interesting thing

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on this slide is what is written

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in gray at the bottom: that possible

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turnout is reported by 65 percent

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of respondents. For the rest of the country

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it is 75 percent. So we can see

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that in large cities, already now,

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10 percent fewer voters

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are planning to go to the polls

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than in the country as a whole. But all these figures

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are inflated — people always, excuse me, lie

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about their voting intentions,

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because socially it is considered

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the “correct” answer to say, “Yes, I will go to

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the election,” even among those who

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never actually go. But here we see

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the same situation: Putin at 56 percent.

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That is if we count from all respondents; Zhirinovsky,

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Grudinin, and then further down, already within

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the margin of error, Sobchak, Titov, and Yavlinsky

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all have 1 percent each. And the final slide,

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the most important from this point of view — on it

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we see the real ratings. If

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the election were held this Sunday, the big

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cities — Yekaterinburg and Moscow —

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would vote in fact almost exactly

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the same way as the rest of the country. That

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is what most

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surprised me, and to be honest, these

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data surprised me — they show that attitudes toward

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the candidates in the largest cities are exactly

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the same as in the country overall: 79 percent

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support for Putin. Putin would receive 79

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percent in his re-election bid.

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Zhirinovsky and Grudinin would be fighting for

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second and third place with results of

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around — sorry — both of them at

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7 percent. Then Sobchak, Titov,

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and Yavlinsky are already within the margin of error, at 1

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percent each, and “another politician” gets 4

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percent. In other words, it is all the same. This

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Putin re-election setup

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leaves us with absolutely no

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hope of influencing anything in these

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elections. So there is no need to go there. These are

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basically stand-in figures with

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minimal ratings, bouncing around

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around Putin and not even trying to

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raise their own

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ratings. We were interested

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in looking at the results of an alternative

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poll in the city of Yekaterinburg, because

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at the same time as us, a local sociological

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service was conducting a survey.

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Let’s take a look at what they

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measured there. We can see that their results are very similar:

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they give Putin 77 percent, Grudinin 6

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percent. Zhirinovsky is lower there; unlike us,

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we give Zhirinovsky 7

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percent, while they give him 3.8. Then

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Sobchak gets 1.3 percent, Titov 1

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percent, Yavlinsky 0.6. So all of this

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is around 1 percent. So as we

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can see — go back, please — as we can see,

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the results are very similar to ours. But

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very interestingly, they measured negative ratings (the share who would never vote for a candidate).

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In our next poll, we will also

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measure negative ratings. There are quite

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interesting numbers here. This is the largest city —

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Yekaterinburg — and Putin’s negative rating is 3

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percent, Grudinin’s is 13 percent,

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Zhirinovsky’s 32 percent,

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Yavlinsky’s 24 percent, and Sobchak’s

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negative rating is absolutely extraordinary.

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It comes out to 80.5 percent

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of people who say they would never in

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their lives vote for such a

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candidate. Quite interesting. Well,

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in fact, this is probably

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the main reason why it is specifically

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Sobchak who is now being promoted on television as

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the main opposition candidate,

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because, obviously, these huge negative

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ratings will lead to a very low

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result, and then all of us will be told

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how it happened that the opposition

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candidate performed rather poorly. So if you want

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to be part of all this,

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go to the election and take part in

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all the fuss around Putin’s percentages. If you want

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normal elections, boycott them

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and call on everyone to boycott. Demand

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that all candidates be allowed to run.

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Take part in the voters’ strike, and

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of course, in connection with this, people write to me every

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single day, and I can see that Twitter is already

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full of this. Everyone says to me, “Alexei,

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after all, people can come to the election and spoil

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their ballots, cast invalid ballots, and

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that can lower

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Putin’s rating, because his percentage

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is calculated from valid ballots rather than from the total

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number. So why don’t we come and

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vote — imagine half of all voters

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showing up at the election and, in

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a united burst of enthusiasm, following your powerful

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appeal on the Navalny LIVE channel,

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they come and spoil their ballots, drawing

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crosses on them, writing obscene words,

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or writing in Navalny’s name,

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or drawing little faces — and that’s it, then there will be less than

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50 percent for Putin. Let’s think about

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how realistic that scenario is, so as not to

21:44

So I’m not just making empty claims, I even prepared some numbers for you.

21:45

I prepared them so that we can settle this

21:48

question once and for all. Let’s take a look

21:51

at how many spoiled ballots there have been in Russia’s modern history, starting in 1996.

21:55

How many spoiled ballots were there in

21:58

elections? Let’s look at this absolutely

22:01

remarkable chart. Up at the top, you can see

22:05

a dark blue line — that shows

22:09

what percentage the winner received.

22:11

That is, for 1996 we have

22:15

both the first round and the second round here — that was

22:17

Yeltsin, and everything else is Medvedev and

22:20

Putin, respectively. And below, you can see

22:23

a red line hugging the bottom of the chart,

22:27

and that is the number

22:30

of invalid ballots there were

22:33

in Russia’s modern history. Notice this:

22:35

in the first round in ’96,

22:37

there were 1 percent spoiled ballots —

22:39

1.43 percent.

22:41

In the second round, 1.05 percent of ballots were spoiled,

22:45

and at that time, by the way,

22:47

there was still a “none of the above” option on the ballot.

22:49

In 2000, fewer than 1 percent

22:52

of ballots were spoiled. In 2004 —

22:55

remember that election? It was such a dreadful

22:57

election. There were Khakamada and Glazyev,

23:00

and Malyshkin — Zhirinovsky didn’t run then,

23:02

instead it was Zhirinovsky’s bodyguard, Malyshkin — and still

23:05

the share of spoiled ballots was only

23:08

just 0.83

23:10

percent — eight-tenths of a percent,

23:12

sorry, in other words, a minimal number.

23:13

Then the “none of the above” line

23:15

was removed. And you’d think: if you remove

23:18

the “none of the above” option, people will start

23:20

spoiling ballots. But we see that in

23:22

the 2008 election, spoiled ballots still amounted to

23:25

1.36 percent. In the 2012 election,

23:28

1.16 percent, despite the fact that

23:32

many people were calling for ballots to be spoiled.

23:34

So, my friends, let’s

23:39

once and for all

23:40

settle this and not come back to it again:

23:41

the strategy of spoiling ballots does not work.

23:44

It has never worked. I can

23:47

call on you to do it, and I can

23:49

probably persuade, through our channels,

23:51

at most a million people to spoil

23:55

their ballots. But you and I will never persuade

23:58

the broad masses of people. And after all,

24:00

our task is not to operate within a single percent.

24:02

Our task is to persuade 30

24:05

percent of the population, 40 percent

24:07

of the population, to take part in something. They are not

24:09

going to spoil ballots.

24:10

If someone has already come to vote, they treat

24:12

that piece of paper, that ballot, as

24:14

something of value. It seems foolish to people

24:17

to spoil it.

24:17

I mean, it just seems absurd to come

24:20

to an election only in order to

24:23

spoil your ballot for some reason. It doesn’t work, it won’t

24:26

work anywhere, ever. So let’s close the subject.

24:29

Spoiled ballots do not achieve anything.

24:33

Of course, it would be nice if we could say:

24:37

let’s spoil ballots, and really

24:38

get big percentages that way.

24:40

But no one is going to do that except a few

24:43

activists whom I might be able to convince.

24:45

People will not do that. We will get

24:48

that same 1 percent again

24:51

of spoiled ballots, and of those

24:53

the overwhelming majority will simply be

24:55

people who made a technical mistake — voted in

24:57

two places, or otherwise

24:59

marked something incorrectly.

24:59

The ballot gets spoiled, and there will be 1 percent

25:02

of spoiled ballots. And they’ll tell us:

25:03

look, the opposition — this is what they got.

25:06

These are the percentages of those who voted for them, and

25:08

Navalny, Sobchak, and the others got around 1 percent each,

25:10

and spoiled ballots are also 1

25:12

percent. That’s their ceiling. So no,

25:16

we should not do this. The people in the Kremlin are not

25:19

idiots. When they were designing

25:22

the election so that the result would show

25:25

Putin’s vote at around 70 percent,

25:28

of course they thought about this too. There is no

25:31

clever electoral strategy

25:34

by which you and I, simply by going to the polls,

25:37

can outsmart them. In elections, there can be only one strategy:

25:39

if there is a candidate,

25:41

we vote for that candidate. If there is no

25:44

candidate, then nothing works.

25:47

There is no way we can outfox them.

25:50

We have to resist

25:51

in another way: boycott and go out

25:53

to rallies. So, that’s how it is.

25:56

Please, let’s not

25:59

discuss spoiling ballots anymore. I’m looking at our

26:01

questions now, and I see

26:07

a message from Jeffrey66 Blake:

26:09

“Please show my post. Dear

26:12

Muscovites, when you see that Alexei

26:13

is being bundled into a police van (an avtozak, a Russian prisoner transport vehicle), under no

26:15

circumstances let them take him away — surround the vehicle

26:17

and don’t let it leave.”

26:18

No, you must not do that. First of all, I am

26:22

more often detained near my home or, I don’t know,

26:25

on the way out from here. The last three

26:27

times I was arrested in advance, before

26:30

the rally. If it happens at a rally,

26:32

as it did on the 26th, do not try to

26:35

free me.

26:36

Don’t pull me out of the police van. Later on,

26:37

people were rocking the bus, pushing cars onto

26:40

the roadway — there is no need to do that.

26:43

The main goal of our rallies is mass participation.

26:46

You need to come, be there, keep moving,

26:50

so that it feels like a march. You should

26:51

be persuading people. If you

26:54

block a bus so it can’t go anywhere,

26:56

and all of that happens, people will say:

26:58

“We didn’t let Navalny go.” But the point is not Navalny.

27:00

The task is not to protect Navalny, not

27:03

to promote Navalny. These rallies have

27:06

their own purpose.

27:07

The purpose of these rallies is to demand fair

27:09

elections, so let’s focus

27:12

on getting as many people out

27:15

as possible. But don’t try to rescue me there

27:17

again—you’ll just give them an opportunity to open

27:20

a criminal case. But if they lock me up for 30

27:22

days, it’s nothing—I’ll sit it out.

27:24

Nothing will happen. You yourselves know what

27:26

to do. Inferno Overkill asks: will there be any more protests

27:31

after this? I’ve been going on for 22 minutes

27:37

and, Inferno, I still haven’t managed to get this

27:41

idea across to you. Of course there will be, because this is

27:42

the most important thing: holding rallies, bringing

27:45

people out into the streets. That’s the main thing. It’s

27:49

a fairly difficult task, especially in

27:51

Russia, especially in winter, but without it

27:54

nothing will work. So, good evening.

28:00

“Did you serve in the army?” asks

28:01

Khalifa. No, I did not serve in the army because

28:04

I had a deferment while I was at university.

28:05

That’s a very easy one to answer. So, I

28:08

did not serve in the army, just like our minister

28:09

of defense. So, hi—Volodya writes: you

28:17

said that the rally on the 28th in St. Petersburg

28:20

would be on Proletarian Dictatorship Square

28:21

in accordance with the law, but holding

28:23

an event on that square is prohibited

28:25

because it is directly adjacent

28:27

to the building where the court is located. Why not

28:30

Palace Square? Well, first of all, guys, Palace Square, by

28:33

your own logic, is outright

28:35

prohibited under your city’s

28:38

laws—rallies on Palace Square are explicitly

28:39

banned. There really was a refusal regarding Pro-

28:43

letarian Dictatorship Square because

28:45

as the judge said during the hearing,

28:48

“It’s right here nearby, and whatever you

28:51

shout there will be heard inside the court.”

28:53

That was one of the grounds for the refusal. Well then,

28:56

that means we need to gather and shout

28:58

so loudly

28:59

that inside the court they hear it

29:02

clearly and distinctly. It is impossible to ban rallies

29:05

on such grounds. We have the right

29:07

to assemble peacefully. It is guaranteed by

29:10

the Constitution, guaranteed by

29:11

the European Convention, guaranteed by

29:14

common sense—guaranteed by everything. We’re

29:16

not crazy people. We are not

29:18

planning to block off

29:19

Nevsky Prospekt (St. Petersburg’s main avenue)

29:20

or the city’s biggest streets all the time. No, we are ready

29:23

to reach a reasonable compromise with the authorities.

29:26

There are always places in central Moscow and central St. Petersburg

29:28

that are, let’s be honest, quite

29:30

suitable for residents to hold rallies.

29:33

But since they won’t give us those places, we hold them

29:35

where we think necessary. This time the strike

29:37

headquarters chose Proletarian

29:39

Dictatorship Square—so away with proletarian

29:42

dictatorship. I don’t know

29:44

St. Petersburg’s geography very well, unfortunately,

29:46

and I’m not going to give advice on that subject.

29:49

That’s a St. Petersburg decision.

29:51

Alexei, how do you feel about Ukrainians

29:54

who support you? asks Svyatoslav. I

29:55

feel positively toward everyone who

29:57

supports me. Thank you all very much for

29:59

your support. “Why, in your statistics,” asks

30:02

Saw Raz, “don’t you take into account your possible

30:04

rating in the event that you’re allowed onto the ballot?”

30:07

Do you think that with access to TV channels you could

30:09

change things significantly? As I understand it,

30:12

this means opinion polls.

30:14

We don’t include that because we still

30:17

don’t want to measure some hypothetical

30:19

scenarios. Right now there are

30:22

clear candidates who will obviously be

30:24

allowed to run in the election. There is public

30:27

opinion that sees those candidates on

30:28

television, and to include me there—or

30:31

to include, I don’t know, Harry Potter or

30:34

Voldemort—makes no

30:37

sense at all. We might get some data,

30:38

but its value would be zero.

30:41

We measure candidates’ ratings so that

30:44

you won’t be deceived, so that no one

30:46

tells you fairy tales that your

30:48

vote in this election determines

30:49

anything. It determines nothing. This is simply

30:52

a reappointment—a guaranteed Putin

30:54

70 percent. That’s why we conduct very

30:56

honest polls.

30:57

So that, overall, none of the others

31:01

can lie to you. So: only

31:06

boycott, only hardcore. Absolutely right.

31:09

After the election, will your headquarters continue

31:11

to function? Nothing will disappear, right?

31:12

Of course nothing will disappear. Nothing

31:14

can disappear, because this is not just

31:16

about premises—it’s about the people who

31:19

want to work in these headquarters.

31:22

But Putin has a high rating. Here’s

31:26

an excellent question from Transsexual

31:28

Gestalt: “Given his high rating in

31:30

your polling, that means there really are

31:32

a huge number of people

31:34

who support him.” Dear Gestalt,

31:38

of course there are a lot of people

31:41

who support Putin, absolutely

31:44

right. He has been president for many years,

31:47

he is shown on television constantly,

31:48

for 18 straight years, and even simply by force

31:52

of propaganda, many people support him.

31:55

And of course there is also

31:56

a substantial number of people who

31:58

share some of his rather crazy

32:02

views of reality. There are probably

32:06

plenty of people in your own circle

32:08

who, in response to any question,

32:10

reply with the phrase, “Have you seen the American

32:13

national debt?” There are such people, and they support

32:17

Putin. But the data we

32:20

show here is election-related, pre-election

32:23

sociology. It is Putin’s rating

32:26

specifically in a lineup with concrete

32:29

candidates. It is not Putin’s overall rating

32:32

—it is Putin’s rating in comparison with Yavlinsky.

32:35

Sobchak, Grudinin, Zhirinovsky, and Titov.

32:40

That is the whole point of the Kremlin's deception: if

32:44

there were other candidates,

32:46

including me—I am not the only candidate,

32:48

the world does not revolve around me, but all

32:51

candidates who have the right to be

32:53

allowed to run should be allowed to run. Then

32:56

compared with those candidates, Putin's rating

32:59

would be completely different.

33:00

Because those candidates—for example, I

33:03

intended to run an election

33:05

campaign, and I did run one for a year, and I would have continued to do so. I

33:08

would have driven down Putin's rating, just as I quite

33:11

effectively, together with my comrades, drove down

33:13

Sobyanin's rating back in the day.

33:15

And now we would be acting even more effectively,

33:17

because we would have had much more time.

33:19

But these people—the ones who

33:22

will now be on the ballot—are doing nothing

33:24

to bring down Putin's rating.

33:26

That is why he has

33:27

77 percent. Exactly for that reason, not because

33:31

there is some enormous nationwide

33:33

support. So, who banned *The Death of Stalin*?

33:37

There have been a great many questions on

33:41

this topic, and right now it is one of those

33:45

things everyone is discussing. You know there is

33:47

an American film called

33:49

*The Death of Stalin*, and this film was suddenly

33:54

banned by the Ministry of Culture, as

33:56

usually happens here, "at the request of working people"

33:58

(a Soviet-era stock phrase). And the Minister of Culture himself,

34:00

Medinsky, quite recently said

34:02

that they would not ban it, that it should be released.

34:05

It is just a film comedy—and now they have banned it.

34:06

Why? In children's programs—

34:11

those of you who follow my program

34:14

know why this happened: because for

34:16

several months now I have been saying here

34:19

that the main ideological

34:23

pillar of Putin's regime is becoming

34:26

this endless search for reasons to be offended. They are always looking for

34:30

some pretext

34:30

to take offense and feel insulted; they invent such a

34:33

pretext if none exists, and then

34:36

go on about their offended

34:38

feelings. We have already seen deputies and,

34:40

good Lord, some granddaughter of—

34:43

or grandson of—Khrushchev living in the United States,

34:46

a granddaughter, I do not remember, a granddaughter of Khrushchev or a grandson

34:49

of someone else—in short, some great-grandchildren and

34:51

grandchildren of Stalin and Khrushchev, for some reason living

34:53

in the United States, declared that they were of course offended.

34:56

And State Duma deputies are offended, and some

34:59

other people are offended, so the film

35:01

was banned. Today it was shown at the

35:03

Pioner cinema, in violation of some

35:06

some

35:07

rules, without a distribution license.

35:09

Some are admiring them—what a great job by

35:11

the Pioner cinema, really, well done.

35:13

The Ministry of Culture, having already dropped everything else,

35:15

is declaring: we will punish the

35:17

Pioner cinema.

35:18

They supposedly had no right to show it. But this is not as if

35:20

they screened a pornographic film

35:23

or something like that—they showed a perfectly normal

35:27

feature-length film that is being shown all over

35:29

the world. They are endlessly looking

35:33

for something to be offended by. Today the subject of their

35:36

offense is a film about Stalin's death. But I

35:40

wanted to say something else. A lot has already been

35:44

said and discussed about this; it is all clear enough that this

35:46

would happen. What interested me was

35:48

to see who exactly was offended—who

35:50

are, formally, these people who

35:53

came out before all of us, before 143 or 145

35:57

million people, and said: we are so offended

35:58

that none of you will be allowed to watch this either,

36:02

because it will offend you too. Look at

36:04

us—we are your representatives. It was some kind of

36:08

public committee under the

36:11

Ministry of Culture, where there are

36:13

all sorts of different people.

36:15

Most of them are rather strange. I

36:18

looked through the list of who these offended people were, and

36:24

whether it really looked like these were the people

36:28

who were so deeply troubled by this issue, and

36:31

I saw

36:31

the name of Igor Ugolnikov, for example. Those of

36:38

you who are older may remember that in the 1990s

36:41

there was a show called *Oba-Na! Ugol Show*; back then

36:46

it was fairly funny. I watched it then;

36:49

if you watch those episodes now,

36:50

to be honest, it looks a bit like

36:52

trash. But it is precisely Igor Ugolnikov,

36:55

who used to put out such

36:57

risky sketches, who is now, on our behalf,

37:01

speaking in our name,

37:01

claiming to be offended by the film *The Death of Stalin*. Let us

37:04

take a look: if Ugolnikov says

37:07

that we cannot insult leader Stalin,

37:09

then first I want to show a little excerpt

37:13

from one of his sketches from the 1990s about an even

37:17

greater figure, from the point of view of recent Russian

37:20

history: Comrade Lenin.

37:24

[music]

37:26

Excuse me, sir... good... gentlemen...

37:28

mushrooms... running... sitting... we with you...

37:32

comrades.

37:32

Organic—well, actually, liability...

37:35

limited liability—no, not

37:37

foreign, but limited

37:39

liability. What a funny sailor. I am

37:41

a soldier—it is all the same damn thing. Do not lie. No, no, no.

37:45

But a sympathizer—that is what I want...

37:47

And what, here out of necessity?

37:52

Out of necessity. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

37:54

Comrade, someday there will come a

37:57

moment when working people will not

37:58

be in need—whether small need or great need.

38:03

You see, not so long ago Igor Ugolnikov,

38:05

putting on a little beard and mustache and a cap,

38:07

was portraying Lenin, and there were these kinds of

38:10

toilet-humor jokes, and everything was

38:13

just fine. No one paid any attention to it.

38:15

By and large, no one cared. But now

38:17

several years have passed, and

38:21

Igor Ugolnikov realized and understood that you shouldn't

38:24

laugh at Dozhd (TV Rain, an independent Russian TV channel). Well then, why didn't you also

38:27

delete your Troshova and all those jokes

38:30

from YouTube? And if it's all so offensive, then you

38:32

thank you very much for preserving it and saving us from

38:35

a terrible film, but then please

38:37

save us from your own work.

38:40

That stopped being interesting several years ago.

38:44

As for Igor Ugolnikov, at the same time

38:45

he believes he was doing something right

38:48

and that he can sit on the public council

38:50

under the Ministry of Culture, and he

38:54

on our behalf

38:56

decided to take offense, decided for us

38:57

to determine what we should watch and what we shouldn't.

39:01

An even more astonishing character

39:04

declared that she was offended,

39:06

and therefore we would not get to see the film *The Death of Stalin*.

39:08

This is Sabina Tsvetkova. Right now you

39:12

can see her photo.

39:13

Guess who is in this photograph. This is

39:17

a person who sits on the public council

39:20

of Russia's Ministry of Culture on behalf of

39:23

the organization

39:24

"Officers of Russia." So before you stands

39:28

an "Officer of Russia" who, in your name,

39:31

does something or other at the Ministry of

39:33

Culture and, in your name, declares

39:36

that we do not want to watch the film

39:39

*The Death of Stalin*. There is such an organization,

39:41

"Officers of Russia," headed by a man

39:43

named Anton Tsvetkov. I don't know, I

39:46

strongly doubt that he was ever actually

39:47

in the military or that he is

39:50

an officer of Russia, though maybe he was. For

39:51

me, an officer of Russia is my father, who

39:54

served in the army his whole life, or my

39:56

classmates, all of whom—please put Tsvetkova back on screen—

39:58

especially Tsvetkova.

40:00

Or my classmates, all of whom serve

40:03

in the armed forces.

40:04

But for the state, for the Ministry of

40:07

Culture,

40:07

an "Officer of Russia" is Anton

40:10

Tsvetkov's wife,

40:11

the man who founded the organization "Officers

40:14

of Russia," and now this wife, on behalf of

40:16

the officers, tells us: you, Navalny,

40:19

and you, Ivanov, and all the rest of you, you will not

40:22

be watching *The Death of Stalin*

40:24

because that's what I decided.

40:27

So how else are we supposed to fight this?

40:31

You could fight it through parliament, and if we got

40:33

into the Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament), we'd get rid of all these

40:36

so-called public councils, pass a law saying they are

40:37

not needed at all,

40:38

or else the mass media

40:40

—and in the mass media

40:42

they would be torn apart—or else

40:44

through the courts. We would sue this idiocy and

40:46

have the actions of the Ministry of

40:48

Culture declared illegal. They are obviously

40:50

illegal: they simply took away the film's distribution

40:53

license. We can't do that right now.

40:54

What we can do is take part in street

40:57

actions; we must take part in them.

40:59

That is why, among other reasons,

41:01

on the 28th, on Sunday, we need to go out into the streets.

41:04

Right now we have about—how much is it—146,

41:07

144 thousand rubles; we've raised 148 thousand

41:12

rubles as part of Operation

41:13

Phoenix. Let me remind those who have just

41:15

joined us: 2.3 million rubles

41:17

have been illegally frozen in the account

41:23

of our organization—the money you donated.

41:25

Over the course of several broadcasts, I will

41:28

try to raise exactly the same amount in order

41:29

to show that they will not succeed in

41:32

destroying our organization and

41:34

cutting off fundraising: I can also do it through

41:36

YouTube.

41:36

I'll still be able to raise something. Let's see what you're asking me here.

41:40

Let's see what you're asking me.

41:43

All right, there are a lot of jokes here about the film, and about this

41:46

"Officer of Russia," and about a vacation in Bali with

41:48

the hashtag "fairytale Bali"—Alexei,

41:55

a lot of people ask me:

41:57

does anyone know why the war in Syria is happening?

41:58

A gas pipeline from Qatar and so on—why are you

42:01

silent about it? Guys, that's complete nonsense.

42:04

There is a lot of speculation out there

42:07

that the war in Syria is being fought so that

42:09

some pipeline can carry gas from Qatar, but that's not

42:12

what it's about. Read up on it—there are

42:14

much

42:16

more interesting articles. That is not why

42:18

the war in Syria is happening. So, here is a photograph

42:22

of Putin naked and half-naked while

42:25

bathing. Well, I won't comment too much on it.

42:27

If he wants to bathe, let him bathe.

42:29

I don't know—whether in warm water or

42:31

cold water, what difference does it make? But many people

42:33

bathe in an ice hole (a traditional Epiphany practice in Russia); that already has little

42:35

to do with Orthodoxy—it's simply

42:38

a tradition. But thank God, at least they don't bathe his mustache.

42:40

So what will we achieve with a boycott? Well,

42:47

Putin will become president, and nothing will

42:48

change.

42:49

"Nothing will change," asks Shamil Khanov.

42:51

Shamil, this is not a guess.

42:55

There will be the election on the 18th—the so-called election on March 18.

43:00

It will lead to Putin

43:02

reappointing himself for the next six

43:03

years with a result of more than 70 percent. We

43:07

are boycotting the election in order

43:09

to show that we do not want to recognize this as

43:12

an election. We do not recognize as an election

43:15

a procedure in which candidates are not allowed to run. We

43:17

will criticize it, and we will call on everyone

43:21

not to recognize these

43:23

results. You have,

43:25

Shamil, the right not to recognize the results and

43:28

not to recognize this government if you did not go

43:30

to vote—there is no liar's vote in it—if from the very

43:33

beginning you said that this was a fake, not

43:36

an election. That is exactly what we are doing. A boycott by itself—

43:39

let me put it this way—

43:42

if we just say for a year that we're boycotting, then what?

43:44

Will this change whether it all collapses tomorrow?

43:47

Will Putin's regime collapse on March 19?

43:50

The answer is no, it will not. On March 19, Putin

43:53

will begin preparing for the inauguration and hold it

43:56

sometime around March 20.

43:58

There will be some new kind of red carpet,

44:01

soldiers with rifles will be standing nearby, and he will

44:03

go on talking about how wonderfully he

44:05

will spend another six years correcting the mistakes

44:09

of previous presidents, as if

44:10

the previous president—and the one before that, and before that—

44:13

had not been Putin himself.

44:15

Of course that is what will happen. Our boycott is

44:18

a political act of refusing to recognize

44:21

this sham as an election. If you recognize these elections, then

44:24

you recognize them; not going will be

44:26

your personal political struggle.

44:30

Danil Logachev asks: what should you do if

44:34

your parents will not let you go to the rally on January 28,

44:37

but you really want to?

44:38

Well, in cases like this I usually say:

44:41

if you are not allowed to, but you really want to, then you can. Danil,

44:44

it all depends on how old you are, after all.

44:46

Still, yes, if

44:48

you are at an age when your parents' ban

44:50

from your parents

44:52

plays a significant role, then you should

44:54

of course obey your parents. But I would

44:57

start by trying to persuade them.

45:00

Show them this program, show them

45:02

the rallies that have taken place in your city,

45:04

show them that in reality these events are almost

45:07

always completely safe. Yes, of course, there are

45:10

administrative detentions, certainly. I myself am

45:11

constantly detained, but okay,

45:14

they detain me, yet here I am sitting

45:16

here in front of you all the same. So just talk to

45:18

your parents, or better yet, bring them with you.

45:21

Parents and children together can

45:23

take part in this rally, and parents

45:25

will see for themselves that there is nothing

45:28

terrible about it. And on the subject of rallies,

45:33

parents, arrests, and so on, many people

45:36

have asked me how my trip to

45:38

the European Court of Human Rights

45:40

went. It went well. The main question being decided there

45:43

was this:

45:45

whether the arrests

45:47

I was subjected to at rallies

45:49

—there were several arrests and detentions—

45:51

seven episodes in five cases—should be recognized

45:55

as political. That is, those cases themselves

45:57

I have already won, and my lawyer and I—

46:00

many thanks to him—on all these

46:02

cases will receive compensation. In other words,

46:04

they have already been recognized, and the notorious

46:07

€10,000 for each arrest

46:11

has already been awarded because these arrests were recognized as unlawful.

46:13

That means Navalny was unlawfully detained.

46:15

For us now, it is very important that the court

46:17

officially recognize that this was done

46:21

for political reasons. Even though

46:25

it is obvious to everyone sitting here in

46:27

Russia that this kind of thing happens

46:30

for political reasons, it still has not yet been

46:32

recognized by a court. And the European Court

46:35

is extremely reluctant when it comes to

46:39

the idea of recognizing one case or another

46:41

as political. The last time

46:43

a Russian case was recognized

46:44

as political, and the so-called

46:46

Article 18 was applied, was in the Gusinsky case

46:49

(Vladimir Gusinsky, a Russian media owner). That was back in 2003,

46:53

many, many years ago. Since that

46:55

time, Article 18 has not been applied in a single case.

46:59

There is a major debate underway in

47:01

the European Court about whether this can

47:04

be done or not, and I attended a hearing

47:06

of the so-called Grand Chamber. This is

47:09

a fairly rare event for a country.

47:13

Over 20 years, Russia has appeared before the Grand Chamber only about 20 times,

47:16

and now this is

47:18

one of those hearings. There are many judges there,

47:21

it is very solemn, very interesting.

47:24

It is also quite stressful—you have to prepare.

47:26

It was very interesting for me to be there.

47:28

I am 41 years old, I am a lawyer, but this was

47:32

one of the very few times when I found myself in

47:34

a genuinely fair court. I am in court

47:36

all the time in different roles:

47:39

as a defendant, as

47:41

a defense lawyer, and as a witness—many,

47:43

many, many times. But in a fair court

47:47

I have found myself only one of the first times

47:50

in my life. Of course, that makes

47:51

a huge impression. In fact,

47:53

everything depends on you, on your position,

47:56

on your lawyers, on how well

47:58

you have built your case.

48:01

The judges really are independent people whom no one

48:03

can simply call on the phone.

48:05

It is a very solemn procedure.

48:07

Of course, it is very, very interesting. Unfortunately,

48:10

the decision will not come soon. People keep asking me,

48:13

'So what, the hearing has already

48:15

taken place—where is the decision, have they already handed you the papers?

48:17

Well, if it happens

48:19

in, say, nine months, that will be very

48:21

fast. So we estimate roughly

48:23

that it will take no less—absolutely no less—

48:25

than a year. We hope to win. The Russian Federation

48:30

is resisting very fiercely,

48:32

taking a very

48:33

aggressive position. Their representative there

48:36

said that I am a person

48:38

who likes being

48:40

arrested. He literally argued that everything

48:42

is wonderful with rallies in our country, that they are always

48:44

allowed all the time, and that they themselves

48:46

refuse to do everything properly, while everything in our country

48:48

is very good and very liberal.

48:51

Anyone who wants has the right to hold

48:52

their own rallies. And they were presenting

48:58

this with not even a legal but a political approach,

48:59

spreading their brazen propaganda

49:02

even in the European Court.

49:05

We will see how it ends, but we

49:08

of course hope to win, and we believe that

49:10

The law is on our side.

49:11

This will be very important for everyone

49:12

in subsequent cases if we reach the point

49:17

where the European Court, for the first time in

49:20

many, many years, once again recognizes Article 18.

49:22

Then, presumably, in other similar cases it

49:25

will continue to be recognized. Today we are raising

49:30

money for the Phoenix operation headquarters

49:32

in order to compensate for what

49:36

was, in effect, taken from us

49:37

stolen by officers of the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service), by employees of the

49:41

Ministry of Justice, and, unfortunately, by those at Alfa

49:45

Bank who joined them. Let me say a little about this

49:46

because there have been a lot of questions.

49:50

So, when we started running

49:52

the election campaign—well, obviously, I was

49:54

the candidate. When you open campaign offices in

49:56

the regions, you can’t open them

49:58

in your own name. I can’t sit there

49:59

signing a million contracts.

50:02

We set up a special legal entity

50:04

which, under the name Fifth Season Foundation,

50:06

was fully legal and operating

50:08

throughout that entire period, and it was through it that we

50:12

signed all these contracts, hired

50:14

people, and printed leaflets.

50:17

It was the legal entity through which

50:19

we did everything. When we

50:21

launched our voters’ strike,

50:23

the Kremlin got terribly frightened.

50:25

It saw that our

50:26

headquarters were not dispersing; they were filled with highly

50:31

motivated people who could not

50:34

simply be switched off by saying,

50:36

“We won’t let Navalny run in the election.” They had expected

50:38

that everyone would just go home, but instead everyone

50:40

said no, we will still go out, we will all

50:42

continue to speak out, we refuse

50:45

to recognize this as an election, and we will carry on

50:46

with the strike. So of course they decided

50:48

simply to shut down this foundation in order

50:51

to destroy our organizational base.

50:52

That does happen now—well, they are

50:56

generally trying to shut down

50:57

non-profit organizations in particular.

50:59

But usually, in virtually 100 percent of cases,

51:02

this is a process that takes

51:04

months—months. More than that,

51:06

the legislation is structured so that

51:09

we have at least a month. But look: the court

51:11

issues a decision to liquidate the Fifth Season Foundation,

51:13

and then one month is given

51:15

for an appeal. During that month,

51:17

the decision does not enter into legal force, which means

51:20

nothing can be done. We

51:21

can still continue working, and on appeal

51:24

such a decision may be upheld, but obviously

51:26

that would only liquidate it after a month. But what

51:28

did these crooks do? The bailiffs

51:31

acted on a decision that had not entered

51:34

into legal force, rushed in, and imposed

51:37

a freeze—and Alfa-Bank tells us

51:40

that, you know, your account with

51:45

2.5 million rubles (about $40,000 at the time), we

51:48

have blocked. And what is especially interesting about the block is that

51:50

they block it and then

51:52

write that the debt on this account is 1 trillion

51:54

rubles—as if to say, if you happen to have 1 trillion

51:56

rubles, deposit it and then everything will work again.

51:58

It was a pretty mocking situation.

52:00

It was absolutely illegal. That is,

52:03

there simply was no court decision in force, and on the basis of

52:05

a non-existent court decision, the bailiffs

52:07

blocked our accounts, while the banks

52:09

carried out these illegal orders. It would have been

52:12

very interesting to get some kind of

52:16

comment from Alfa-Bank in general.

52:19

It is a major bank, and, well,

52:22

it is interesting how easy it turned out to be:

52:25

the FSB wanted it, sent a piece of paper to

52:27

the Ministry of Justice, and the account was frozen.

52:29

Completely illegally. We may be a small

52:31

organization, but exactly the same thing can be done

52:34

to a big company, a large bank,

52:36

to anyone at all. You can, basically,

52:38

come tomorrow

52:39

and freeze 1 billion rubles

52:41

simply because someone feels like it, without

52:44

any court decision. And it was interesting

52:46

to hear Alfa-Bank’s comment, and

52:49

one of its deputy executives, Oleg Sysuyev,

52:50

shared his personal view

52:53

on the air of Echo of Moscow (a Russian radio station). Let’s

52:55

listen. “The other issue here is that, for me as a person,

52:58

it raises, so to speak,

53:00

serious doubts that this decision

53:02

was really adopted and then, within a day,

53:05

made its way from the court without the proper

53:10

formal issuance of the ruling. In fact,

53:14

the affected party in this case

53:17

somehow got it to the bailiffs very quickly,

53:21

and the bailiffs

53:22

at crazy speed delivered

53:25

the order to four banks.

53:30

That is an astonishing speed,”

53:32

he said. Well, there you have it:

53:36

even an Alfa-Bank executive,

53:39

though he said he was speaking in a personal

53:41

capacity, expressed, very mildly,

53:43

his bewilderment at how this could have happened so quickly,

53:46

how it could be that—just like that—the account was blocked.

53:48

Any of you who has dealt with the bailiff service

53:50

knows that these are people who

53:53

take months to enforce decisions,

53:55

years to enforce decisions. You generally

53:57

cannot get anything out of them. You go there to

54:00

see some miserable bailiff,

54:01

and a typical bailiff is

54:03

someone sitting there next to

54:04

a stack of files this thick,

54:07

all enforcement proceedings,

54:09

and he does nothing. If you

54:13

want to recover money from someone, unless you

54:14

bring him a bribe, he will not even

54:16

lift a finger. And in our case,

54:18

there is no court decision in force, yet everything is already

54:21

blocked. So there it is—even Alfa-Bank

54:24

admits that this looks very strange.

54:26

So the position is basically this: where are we supposed to go?

54:28

We have no choice — we have to comply, you understand, we...

54:30

more or less understand that this is illegal,

54:32

more or less understand that it’s a scam,

54:34

but we still have to carry it out. What kind of development can there be,

54:38

what kind of investment attraction can there be,

54:40

when anyone looking at our case can see

54:43

from our example that even

54:45

if you open an account at some bank

54:48

that falls into the top reliability category,

54:50

and some jerk there doesn’t like something,

54:53

or you do something they don’t like, then they...

54:55

You come to the bank, and all your money

54:57

has been frozen — and there isn’t even a court ruling. And that’s not all:

54:59

then you try to fight it, try to sue, and...

55:01

I mean, I was reading about this —

55:04

the Civil Procedure Code, and you...

55:07

you read it and realize: arbitration cases,

55:10

criminal cases — and this is impossible,

55:12

legally, it just can’t be done. But there it is,

55:16

the money is frozen just like that. So far we’ve raised almost 200,000 rubles

55:19

(about $2,200) as part of Operation

55:22

Phoenix. We’re trying to raise these 2

55:24

million 300 thousand rubles (about $25,000), which were

55:27

illegally frozen, in order to once again

55:29

send a big hello to Vladimir

55:32

Putin and say that he will not succeed

55:34

in cutting off our funding as long as

55:36

there are people who support us.

55:38

About the Chechen rally — let me

55:40

tell you. You remember there was this

55:44

remarkable story back during those

55:47

events in Burma (Myanmar), which really

55:50

did appear to be genocide and

55:51

the Muslim population was being slaughtered,

55:54

and there was this wave of outrage

55:57

all over the world. But for some reason, a separate

56:00

outburst of outrage emerged in

56:03

the Chechen Republic, and by the way,

56:05

it appeared and then disappeared just as suddenly.

56:06

They were making statements like, well,

56:09

we’ll even go fight in Burma, we’ll seize it,

56:12

we’ll destroy it, and so on. So first they

56:15

were outraged, made a scene, and then

56:17

it all just vanished. Apparently

56:19

the Foreign Ministry or

56:21

the Kremlin told them, basically, calm down,

56:23

this is none of your business. But as part of all this, there was

56:26

this amazing episode — a sudden,

56:29

spontaneous

56:30

rally outside the embassy in Moscow, which

56:34

was initiated precisely by the leadership

56:35

of the Chechen Republic, saying: come on,

56:37

all Muslims — I think it was

56:39

the Chechen leadership — come on,

56:41

Muslims, go to the Burmese embassy

56:44

and protest.

56:45

And there was a completely astonishing

56:48

moment there. Let’s

56:48

just refresh your memory — let’s watch 32

56:52

seconds here.

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Well, what do you think — does this look like a rally?

57:36

It certainly does: people are chanting,

57:39

saying things, and even a police officer is shouting,

57:40

“Citizens, disperse.” Let me make this clear:

57:44

regardless of what they were discussing at

57:47

the rally, they had every right to

57:48

do it. These people — Muslims,

57:53

Chechens, Dagestanis, whoever —

57:54

have every right to file an application and

57:57

then go out and hold a rally. In this

57:59

case, there was no application at all, and under

58:02

Russian law this was

58:04

a typical unauthorized protest. But in my

58:07

view, they had every

58:09

right to do it. They can come out — preferably without

58:12

blocking the roadway — and express

58:16

their protest. But what interests us

58:18

is that we compare this to ourselves. Look:

58:21

in the city center they blocked

58:23

the street, the police are shouting at them, and they’re not

58:26

listening — and yet there are no detentions, nothing at all.

58:29

Everything is perfectly fine and proper, while I get locked up for

58:32

25 or 30 days just for this broadcast.

58:35

So we wrote to the prosecutor’s office:

58:36

hello, prosecutor’s office, explain to us — how

58:39

can this happen? Why is it that

58:41

we get jailed for this all the time, while here

58:43

nothing at all happens? And the other day we received

58:45

a reply from the prosecutor’s office — absolutely

58:47

astonishing. I’ll show it to you full

58:49

screen.

58:50

They inform us that this was not a rally,

58:53

because no notification for a rally

58:57

had even been submitted, so therefore

59:00

there was, strictly speaking, no rally, no violation

59:03

of public order — in fact, nothing at all

59:07

happened. And a rally is only a rally

59:10

if a notification is submitted. That is,

59:13

if I were to call on you, without submitting any notification,

59:17

to come out onto Tverskaya Street,

59:21

then apparently there would be no problem at all, nobody would

59:24

be detained, and the prosecutor’s office

59:26

would react exactly like this. So

59:28

you see what vile, brazen

59:32

crooks they are. They could at least have lied differently,

59:35

could have said something else — could have said:

59:37

it was unauthorized; we believe this

59:38

was an unauthorized event,

59:40

but it ended without any serious consequences,

59:43

and so, all right. In general, they

59:46

should have said: we don’t see any particular problem here.

59:48

What were the consequences? Well, there was a traffic jam,

59:51

fine, a traffic jam — but they didn’t cause anything worse,

59:53

they didn’t kill anyone, they shouted a bit,

59:55

and honestly it didn’t look all that great

59:57

for an ordinary Muscovite walking by,

59:59

but nobody died because of it, and there was no need

1:00:02

to detain anyone or jail anyone. That’s what they should

1:00:04

have written to us. What lying

1:00:07

frauds they are — and this is the prosecutor’s office,

1:00:08

the very prosecutor’s office that Moscow City Hall is right now

1:00:11

saying to Navalny:

1:00:13

if you keep calling on people to come out, we’ll

1:00:16

report you to the prosecutor’s office. There you go.

1:00:18

So the prosecutor's office can do absolutely anything, then.

1:00:21

Okay, what exactly is your complaint against me? But you...

1:00:24

Just look at this—tomorrow it's the prosecutor's office, after all.

1:00:26

This disgusting lie will be directed at me.

1:00:29

You have no right to issue a warning,

1:00:32

you have no right, Alexei, to do this.

1:00:36

And if you do go out into the street on the 28th after all,

1:00:39

we will take appropriate measures against you.

1:00:42

Measures? Go ahead and take them.

1:00:44

Whatever measures you deem appropriate—but I will not stop

1:00:48

doing this, because I do not want to live in

1:00:50

a country where this kind of thing happens, where

1:00:53

it is plainly obvious that there are two classes of people:

1:00:55

some are allowed everything. Kadyrov (head of Chechnya) decided to hold

1:00:58

a rally—please, go right ahead, no problem at all.

1:01:01

But if you are against corruption, or

1:01:04

against the fact that candidates are being barred from

1:01:06

elections, against this sham,

1:01:08

then we will ban everything for you. You are not even considered

1:01:10

people here—you are nobody. So let's come out

1:01:13

on the 28th—

1:01:18

Sunday, January 28. Rallies will take place across

1:01:21

the whole country. Let us come out and show that no—we

1:01:25

do exist. We refuse to accept that

1:01:28

we are nobody. And until you begin to

1:01:32

take our interests into account, we will

1:01:34

keep going out into the streets. This is the

1:01:36

most important thing, and right now nothing is more important

1:01:39

than doing this. See you on Sunday.

1:01:42

Moscow: 2:00 p.m. on the 28th, on Tverskaya Street.

1:01:46

Street.

1:01:47

St. Petersburg: Proletarian Dictatorship Square.

1:01:49

In all other cities,

1:01:51

check the description—the link is in the description of this

1:01:54

video. Find your city and come out. See you

1:01:56

on Sunday. Happiness will win.

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