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Good evening, everyone. It is 8:00 p.m. in Moscow.

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That means we are live on air

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its host,

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Alexei Navalny—or, as the Kremlin media called me this week,

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“the man who could swear an oath to the Mausoleum”,

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the man who could swear allegiance to

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the Mausoleum (Lenin’s Mausoleum). And so we have what is

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a scheduled broadcast, but at the same time an emergency one,

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because over the last hour,

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there have been unfolding

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absolutely horrific events on the streets

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of Moscow, and the internet has been flooded for the past hour with videos,

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and Twitter posts coming in

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every second. It is something I

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last saw in 1994, when

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police were storming the White House (the Russian parliament building), police

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and the army were there, there was gunfire, and the last time

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I saw people with assault rifles

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running down the street was in ninety-

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four—the very same “cursed ’90s.”

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And right now, this is happening again, and what

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is happening is quite clearly a terrorist attack,

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because this is a rather sophisticated,

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prepared operation, obviously

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timed to coincide with Putin’s live Q&A today,

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during which Putin stated several times,

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very solemnly, that the FSB had done an excellent job

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and that many crimes

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of a terrorist nature had been

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prevented. And tomorrow, as we know,

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is Chekist Day (a Russian holiday honoring state security service personnel), the day

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of the FSB employee, and right now there is

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a ceremonial concert dedicated to this

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Chekist Day.

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And right during the ceremonial

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appearance by Putin at this Chekist Day event,

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unknown individuals, apparently—so far

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it is known there were three of them—

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attacked the FSB building, or perhaps attacked

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the FSB reception office. It is already known that there are

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casualties.

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It is not entirely clear who

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they are—whether they are security service personnel or

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terrorists. It seems that by now

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it is over, they have been shot, but there is no precise

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information. But without question,

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all of this looks horrifying, and it is

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a serious reason to talk about

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how effective this all is, considering that we spend

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33 percent of the Russian Federation’s budget

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on security, if things like this

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are happening amid extraordinary

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measures that are being taken every day.

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We are told that everything must be restricted,

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that Telegram must be restricted, that on December 23

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there are scheduled drills on

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blocking the internet. All of this is supposedly done

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to fight terrorism, and at the same time

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we see people with assault rifles

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engaging in shootouts right by the

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FSB building. Let us try to reconstruct

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the events and how they unfolded

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over the past hour. At around 7:00 p.m.,

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people simply started posting on Twitter and

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uploading videos:

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“Hey, we hear gunfire, and we see

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some police officers

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running through the streets of Moscow.” This was probably

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the first report

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that appeared an hour ago: some girl from a

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cafe filming and commenting on the running

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police officers. Let’s take a look.

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Commenting... we are finally here...

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historical... badly...

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Across from us there is a branch office...

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from which, from time to time, there come running

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police officers—you can see them outside. That was

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literally the first report

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that came in today. It looked rather strange,

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unclear, and it did not seem like this was

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actually real gunfire in the center

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by the FSB building.

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But nevertheless, as more information came in,

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it began to be confirmed. While you were watching that

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video, a report came in saying

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that the FSB had recognized all this as a terrorist attack—that is,

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it effectively confirmed my words

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that this was not some random attack; it was

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a terrorist attack, and I repeat, it was obviously carefully

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planned and timed not just

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to Chekist Day and Putin’s live Q&A,

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but specifically, down to the timing,

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to Putin’s appearance at the ceremonial,

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ceremonial concert for Chekist Day.

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So, after this

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video appeared, reports began to emerge

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in large numbers that people were hearing

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gunfire. The outlet Mediazona, which

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is probably doing the best live coverage right now

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of what is happening—credit to them—their

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correspondent happened to be in central Moscow

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and they began broadcasting the very first video

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reports that the city was beginning

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to fill with people in uniform,

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special forces personnel. Let’s watch 30 seconds.

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The first reports that central Moscow

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was filled with people in camouflage.

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or

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And just a few minutes later, the first

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videos began to appear of the actual

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shootout itself—really

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people running through the streets of Moscow, and

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police officers shouting in terrified voices,

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“Get down! Run away!” Let’s take a look

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at the first video from which we

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learned that literally an hour ago, in the center

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of Moscow, there was a shootout involving

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automatic weapons.

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And apparently the very first video in which

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one of the attackers was caught on camera

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was published, I think, by the outlet Baza,

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and some time later there appeared

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another video, of a much more tragic

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nature, where we can see that apparently

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This video is being interpreted as showing two

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FSB officers running somewhere.

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They are moving from one position to another, and

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one of them is hit, and well, if this is

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indeed the person seen in

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the video who falls—an FSB officer or

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a police officer, a security guard, whoever it may be—

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we hope he survived,

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because he was wearing body armor, after all, but

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this is what it looks like. Let's watch.

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Ah, that was not the right video, sorry, we just

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have such a constant

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flow of information right now. That was a video of how

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people were simply running in the area of the Lubyanka metro station

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(Lubyanka).

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And police officers are saying, "Run, run,

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faster, get down." The video showing how one of

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what appears to be the FSB officers falls after

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being hit by the attacker—let's

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take a look. There, hit, hit, hit—one.

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And just now, news has come in from the FSB

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confirming that one of the

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FSB officers was killed after the shooting at

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Lubyanka. It is not very clear whether this is the person

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we just saw in the video, or

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someone from the FSB reception office, because

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there were reports that it all began in the

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FSB reception office.

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Those who know Moscow's geography know

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that there is, essentially, the building of the

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famous FSB headquarters on Lubyanka.

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And beside it is, formally speaking, the street

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Kuznetsky Most, and if you walk along

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Kuznetsky Most, you see a sign there saying

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"FSB Reception Office." That is probably

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the only place where a person can enter from

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the street and formally get into an FSB building,

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because you cannot just walk in otherwise, and

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it was apparently said that the attack was on the

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FSB reception office, and

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it is still unclear whether someone in the

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FSB reception office was killed, or whether one of the

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special forces officers was killed.

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Now let's watch the video that

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also, by the way, confirms

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that this was a demonstrative terrorist attack, which

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was obviously carried out by people on a suicide mission. Clearly,

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not for nothing, in the center of Moscow,

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if three people try to storm the FSB building, they will

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all be killed. And here is the video in which we now

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see simply indiscriminate

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gunfire at the facade of the FSB building. Well,

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it confirms the demonstrative

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nature of this terrorist act.

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Let's watch.

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Well, you can see dust simply

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flying off the facade, meaning that someone is simply

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firing an automatic weapon at the facade

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of the building. There is no practical

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sense in that at all, but it is some kind of

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ritual act, a gesture of desperation.

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I will repeat, for those who

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are joining our live broadcast right now—

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people are watching us live at this moment.

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Tell me, 25,000 people are watching

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us live—yes, I will repeat what I

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said at the very beginning for those who have just

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joined: it is obvious that this is a

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demonstrative

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terrorist act timed

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to Putin's Direct Line (annual televised Q&A), timed

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35,000 people are already watching us,

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timed to Putin's Direct Line (annual televised Q&A),

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to Chekist Day (Russian security services day), and to Putin's speech for

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this day for the Chekists, and perhaps we will try

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to show you later the video of how, well,

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literally, Putin is giving a speech before

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these assembled satraps,

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the FSB officers, telling them how

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everything is going well here in terms of the fight against

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terrorism, only that it is still necessary

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to tighten things up a bit on extremism, and

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it is clear that by extremism they mean

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the following:

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the internet, Telegram, protesters, and so on.

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The video is almost ready there, let's

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let's watch how the broadcast is interrupted

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right in the middle of his words.

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Let's watch this speech by Putin

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at the concert dedicated to Chekist Day,

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at exactly the very moment when in

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Moscow an attack is underway on FSB buildings.

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Greeting the guests of the security agencies'

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ceremonial evening, the president noted

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the precise and coordinated work of the special services.

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Thanks to their, in my view, professionalism and

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courage, this year it was possible

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to prevent more than 50 crimes

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of a terrorist nature, and behind

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each such prevented

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crime, as the head of state emphasized,

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stand human lives that were saved.

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Lives. It is necessary to act more actively

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against extremism. How

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destructive this threat can be for the state and

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society, we can see

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from the example of a number of foreign countries, and

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our own sad and very recent

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historical experience must not be forgotten, and

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we must firmly and uncompromisingly suppress

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provocations and calls for violence...

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When was the last time you saw a live broadcast

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interrupted like that? This was taken from Twitter

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by Ilya Shepelin. Interfax has just

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reported to us, citing the FSB, that

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there was one attacker.

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Although initially we were told there were three

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attackers. So, for now, according to the FSB's data,

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which, as we know, unfortunately

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has become rather difficult to trust lately,

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we have one—at least one—

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fatality, also an FSB officer, and at

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least one attacker,

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about whom nothing is known yet, but

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more information will be coming in.

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Why did I begin by saying that these

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sad, tragic events that

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have taken place are in fact horrifying...

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In a city of over a million people, right in the city center, there is

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gunfire from assault rifles. This is a reason for us to

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once again discuss whether we are spending

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30 percent of our budget on all this

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"security" properly, and whether we should believe

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these words that we have just

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been told and shown. Putin says

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at the concert about the FSB, because, well,

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obviously, it is all lies — complete lies.

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Just notice how constantly

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they resort to cheap manipulation

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when it comes to

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the real number not only of terrorist attacks

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but even of various

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man-made incidents. Have you

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noticed that now

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any gas explosion is called a "gas pop"?

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Just right now, go to Yandex

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open a second window in your browser and

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type in "gas explosion" — you will see that all

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state TV channels, all

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pro-Kremlin media, call it

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a "pop."

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A "gas pop." After a gas "pop" in Glazov

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two people died, three people died

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from a "pop," half a building was destroyed, and

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so on. On the one hand, we see

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this theater of security, and when

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colossal sums are spent on metal detectors

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in the metro, on fighting Telegram,

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on maintaining the enormous FSB apparatus, the Center for Combating Extremism,

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and so on, while on the other hand absolutely

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nothing is being done in terms of real

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combat against real extremists. But

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events from real life are constantly

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being

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camouflaged. By the way, Rek Esayan

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write to me on Twitter with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture

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with your questions, and I will

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read them out. Rek Esayan asks: don't

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you think all this was staged in order to

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boost the FSB's ratings?

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and, before that, the chekist's (Soviet-style security officer's) rating?

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Putin's too? No, I am sure that is not the case,

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because

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well, this cannot be interpreted as anything other than

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an obvious, total failure, yes.

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Of course, now we will see and hear two

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things that all these

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Kremlin propagandists will be pushing. The first thing they

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will say is: well, in America they also

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have shootings — look how many there are

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in America, they also have people with

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assault rifles. The second thing they will say

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is that any criticism of the FSB, the police, the anti-extremism centers, and

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so on is "PR on blood." So that means everyone who

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right now, at this moment,

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is asking why the hell we are spending

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such enormous amounts of money on these

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simply meaningless and hollow structures

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— they are all supposedly "doing PR on blood."

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Of course, through manipulation

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and trickery,

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FSB officers, Putin, and everyone else did not

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want to raise their ratings; they were hardly

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going to do it this way. But

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because this is the kind of thing that those who

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did it — whether it was one person or

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several — obviously planned

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as exactly this kind of spit in the face of the current

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authorities. We do not understand with what motives, but

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this is exactly how it would have looked

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because, judging by the way

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it was filmed — Mediazona's correspondent

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reported that the attacker was simply

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dressed like a special forces officer, that is, he was wearing a helmet

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and a bulletproof vest. And how

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he got into central Moscow with an automatic

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weapon, in a helmet and body armor, we

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will probably find out. But it is absolutely certain that

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somehow they missed him, they

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let him through. And again, against the backdrop of all

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this,

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the entire city center is covered with surveillance cameras, and we are

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told — to scare us so that we do not

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go to rallies — that every face

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is recorded, that you will be identified. And the last thing

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they were telling us was that even if you put

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a balaclava over your head,

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even if your eyes are not visible, you

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will be identified by your gait, by some

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characteristic movement, then caught and

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punished if you engage in

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such terrible extremism as going to

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rallies and demanding rallies. This regime

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has descended into absolute absurdity from the point

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of view of

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protecting itself and promoting the idea that

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in Russia everything is absolutely calm and

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there are no problems at all. On my own program today,

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today's broadcast on Echo (Echo of Moscow, a Russian radio station),

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in its original script, was

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devoted precisely to this kind of

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absurdity, which now, against the backdrop of what

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is happening, looks even more

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absurd. This week, after all, we

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saw how on the Rossiya channel — that is, on

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Rossiya 1 —

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they literally cut words out of a song.

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I mean, it seemed to us that this was still

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the kind of thing, well, like something

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out of the book *1984* or funny videos about

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North Korea, but in fact this

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is really happening in Moscow. You have probably seen

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or heard the song by the band Bi-2. Let's

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listen to this 15-second excerpt in

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their original performance.

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42,000 people are watching us live.

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So, you have just heard the lyrics, and if

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"the avenue is a little brighter, and the lower... protest"

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"young men in pullovers, tra-la-la-la..."

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I mean, what here could possibly

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be cut out? In fact, it does not say here

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"Putin is a thief," it does not say "the FSB are crooks,"

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or "idlers." There is nothing here about

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Navalny, not about Rotenberg, not about countships (?)

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not about corruption — and yet, still, something in it

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these few lines

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there is something in these lines that frightened

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the federal authorities, and they ordered that

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a piece of this song, which

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on federal television

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ended up sounding like this. Let’s

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take a look

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it was

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so if they really did just mute

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the sound, cut everything out at the word “protests,” then

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that means that saying the word in a song, in

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a work of art, the word

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“protests,” is some kind of forbidden thing. Can you

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imagine? There must have been

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a whole procedure. Someone must have said, so, do we really

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have the word “protests” in a song? We need to

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find out what can be done about it. Then they

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called

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and then someone called the Kremlin and

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said, you know, we’ve put on

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a song and it contains the word “protests”

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— is that definitely allowed? And they were told no, like,

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do something. Then all of this

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went back down the chain to the people carrying it out

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who said, are you insane?

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I can’t just go and cut

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words out of a song without muting them, but

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that’s impossible, we’ll look weird and

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everyone will notice, and everyone will

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talk about it. But then they got another call

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back down the chain — they called the boss

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at Rossiya 1 (a Russian state TV channel), who called

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the Kremlin

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or the FSB (Russia’s security service), or whoever it was there, and they said, you know,

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for the security of the country, for

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preventing terrorist attacks, for fighting

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extremism, and so that

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stability can be even more stable, you

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will please do exactly that

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— just cut the sound

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at the word “protests.” That’s what needs to be done. Son, you’re

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not doing this for yourself, you’re doing it for

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your country. And they really did cut it

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all out

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and how are we supposed to look at all this now

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in light of the subsequent

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information that is just now coming in?

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For those of you watching us now — more than 40,000

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people are already watching this live — I

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will just repeat that in Moscow

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there has been an absolutely obvious terrorist

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attack, a prepared terrorist attack

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timed to Chekist Day (a Russian security services holiday), which took place

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during a concert for Chekist Day. Right now

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we are watching video footage of some

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people shooting at police officers and FSB officers

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killing them right there in the street. Let’s

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look again at that horrifying video where one

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of the security officers appears to have been shot

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we hope he is still alive after all

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thanks to his special

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protective gear

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they hit him, they hit him

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FSB of Russia is still

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reporting that one

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FSB officer was killed; no other

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deaths have been reported. However, earlier there was a report

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from the Health Ministry saying that two

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were wounded; we do not know whether they were seriously or

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lightly injured FSB officers. So,

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a moment ago the Health Ministry reported the following

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please bring that news item back up for me

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the Health Ministry reported that in the shooting on

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Lubyanka, two FSB officers

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sustained extremely severe injuries

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TASS reports this. The rest of today and

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tonight, and the next day, and

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probably for some time after that, will be

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devoted

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simply to endless discussion of what

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happened, and everyone will naturally

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push their own line. The FSB will say

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that this was their great success, that they

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prevented something. We would like to believe that, but

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it is absolutely impossible to believe them. I

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just want to recall — unfortunately, I

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simply can’t show you

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various videos — but just remember

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how quite recently we had those

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absolutely astonishing, in their

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sheer brazen dishonesty, alleged

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FSB operations to detain, in particular,

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those who organized the terrorist attacks in

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St. Petersburg, when you showed us

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some miserable Uzbek man sitting at a

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bus stop, and people ran up to him shouting

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“Get down! FSB!”

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and then pulled pistols and a grenade out of the Uzbek man’s

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pocket, and then Uzbekistan’s Interior Ministry reported

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that actually, this person had been

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detained in a hospital over there and

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handed over to the FSB — that is, they took him at the

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border, brought him over, sat him down, and then

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deliberately pulled him out and staged him for us

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in that setting in order to lie to us that this was not

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simply someone who had been handed over to them, but rather that it was

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a successful FSB operation. It is absolutely

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impossible to believe a single word

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these people say. Unfortunately, of course, we would very much

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like to believe our own

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security services, but it is impossible to believe them. And

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do you remember that incident — whether it was a terrorist attack or

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something involving nitrate — in Novokuznetsk?

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when there was an explosion in an apartment building, and by then

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even various pro-Kremlin media outlets,

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in particular the outlet Baza, which appears

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to be rather pro-Kremlin, were doing

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a whole investigation showing that this was

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a terrorist attack. There were

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shootouts, there were some burned

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cars, and bullet-riddled

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surfaces

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but we were told that none of that happened, that it was

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just a gas explosion, a gas blast, you know

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one in which many people died, but no

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terrorist attack. Why? Because that too

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shows that as long as all these our

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The FSB (Federal Security Service), the Center, and the National Guard—everyone else

24:40

pretend to be fighting for security and

24:43

at the same time steal money through procurement there

24:46

potatoes, cards—

24:47

and carrots, as we explained in

24:51

the case with the National Guard, they missed

24:56

real terrorist attacks and real terrorists

24:58

And the Health Ministry is now reporting that as a result of

25:00

the shooting on Lubyanka, five people have been injured

25:01

already. Security forces continue to be deployed to central Moscow

25:04

Well, this is

25:07

the kind of reaction our authorities have: something

25:09

happened, so, basically, they

25:11

will keep pulling everyone in until evening

25:14

tomorrow they’ll shut everything down, and the day after tomorrow

25:17

they’ll announce that there should be

25:19

ten times more metal detectors in the metro, excuse me

25:22

they’ll install these idiotic metal detectors in the metro. Look,

25:24

yesterday at six in the evening I

25:28

was going down into the Avtozavodskaya metro station

25:30

our nearest metro station, and

25:32

once again—and all of you who

25:34

use the metro every single day during rush hour see this—

25:36

when crowds are pushing through these detectors, which

25:40

are switched off

25:41

because they simply can’t function

25:43

when everything there is literally packed

25:45

with people, because you can’t fully open

25:48

the vestibule; instead they set up these

25:51

special metal barriers

25:52

so that people go through the detectors, but people

25:54

come in such huge numbers that they just go around

25:57

these detectors. The detectors don’t work, but they’re there

26:01

they were bought, an enormous

26:03

amount of money was spent on them, and it’s a pointless

26:06

thing. That’s what’s called security theater

26:10

What’s happening now in front of

26:12

every airport in Russia—probably

26:14

the only country in the world, even in

26:15

Israel they don’t have this, in the U.S. they don’t have this

26:18

nowhere do they have this, where just to enter

26:20

an airport

26:21

you arrive at the airport and straight from

26:24

the street you have to stand in some idiotic

26:26

line with metal detectors again, put your

26:29

suitcases through, and then when boarding the plane

26:31

you stand in these detectors again. What for?

26:33

It’s unclear. I mean, it’s

26:36

needed in order to steal a lot of money

26:39

through the purchase of these X-ray machines

26:42

metal detectors, and so on and so forth. On the one hand,

26:43

and on the other hand, to report on

26:46

certain anti-terrorism measures

26:48

because the peculiarity of all these

26:50

security officials is that every day they tell us,

26:52

we uncovered this many

26:55

terrorist attacks. And Putin just now—let’s

26:57

watch once again

26:59

Putin’s speech, which

27:01

was amazingly interrupted on

27:04

the Rossiya 1 TV channel broadcast

27:07

because at exactly the moment when he

27:09

was boasting about successes, a shooting broke out in

27:11

central Moscow. Let’s show it again

27:13

of the security agencies. I welcome the guests

27:16

of this ceremonial evening. The president noted

27:17

the clear and coordinated work of the special services

27:20

thanks to their professionalism and courage

27:22

this year it was possible to prevent more than

27:24

50 crimes of a terrorist

27:26

nature, and behind each such

27:28

prevented crime, as

27:30

the head of state emphasized, stand

27:32

human lives that were saved. No, even more actively

27:35

we must counter

27:37

extremism. How destructive for

27:40

the state and society this

27:42

threat can be, we see from the example of a number of

27:44

foreign countries, and from our own sad

27:46

very recent experience

27:48

They must not forget the lessons of history, and it is necessary

27:51

to firmly and uncompromisingly suppress

27:52

provocations and calls for violence. First there’s the lie

28:00

about some kind of extremism

28:03

obviously, what is meant more clearly is

28:05

political extremism, a major threat that does not actually exist in

28:07

Russia

28:08

and then, when they collided with real life, with

28:10

the shooting on Lubyanka, they simply cut off

28:12

their broadcast. It is now being reported that at

28:15

Lubyanka the metro exit toward

28:17

Detsky Mir (a famous children’s department store) and Biblio-Globus (a major bookstore) has been closed off, and the FSB

28:20

is denying reports of three

28:21

attackers. In fact, they are

28:23

insisting there was one attacker on the FSB building

28:26

Can that be believed? Look,

28:30

here’s a simple fact: Putin today, live on air,

28:33

told us that 50

28:35

terrorism-related crimes had been solved

28:37

Before that,

28:39

Bortnikov, Patrushev, all these FSB people

28:42

also told us that

28:44

terrorism-related crimes had been solved

28:46

The question is: where are the trials?

28:50

If you solved the crime, where are they? Well,

28:54

show us then. There should be a trial

28:57

You caught terrorists—show us where those

29:01

trials are, where there are terrorists, where we were

29:03

told what terrible attacks they

29:05

were preparing, where we were told who

29:07

financed all of this, where they

29:09

got their weapons, how they transported explosives. I mean,

29:11

this is important: if the FSB

29:14

prevented something, then let the FSB come and

29:16

boast about it and show us, here, this

29:19

I don’t know, some Magomed so-and-so and Ivan

29:21

Petrov

29:22

they are terrorists, they were caught, and here they

29:24

received life sentences, and whatever else

29:28

But none of that exists. More than that,

29:31

every time some

29:32

real terrorist attack happens, we are told:

29:35

the terrorists were eliminated. Strangely enough,

29:38

all terrorists are always eliminated. Not once have we

29:41

actually seen a single

29:43

major, significant trial at which

29:46

they would show us a terrorist

29:48

a captured terrorist, the masterminds

29:50

the organizer was really some kind of... well, this...

29:53

there was no cell, none of that existed

29:54

in the latest case, the trial actually...

29:57

about these people who actually

30:00

either did, or allegedly did, carry out the terrorist attack in the St. Petersburg

30:03

metro

30:04

but this is just ordinary filth

30:06

There’s a huge article by *The Insider*—read it—and

30:08

they really just grabbed some, well,

30:11

apparently, simply random Uzbeks and

30:14

Tajiks who were somehow connected to

30:17

those who committed the actual terrorist attack

30:19

and simply imprisoned them without any

30:22

evidence, because they needed to report back:

30:24

a terrorist attack happened, and we

30:26

locked some people up. But even those who

30:28

just read the case materials can see

30:30

that they simply took and put these

30:32

random guys behind bars. The organizer there

30:35

was shot—or maybe not shot—no one

30:37

understands what is going on. If Russia is

30:40

fighting terrorism, then we want

30:42

to see terrorist

30:45

cells being uncovered

30:45

we are constantly told that the masterminds behind terrorist attacks

30:47

are abroad—well then tell us, where are they? Is it

30:50

Saudi Arabia?

30:51

The Emirates? The U.S.? Israel? Well,

30:54

tell us who all these

30:56

foreign sponsors and foreign handlers are

30:59

who are the very people

31:02

who are doing all this? None of it is

31:05

known—unknown, unknown. For years, we’ve supposedly had

31:08

Putin’s main achievement being

31:12

the successful fight against terrorism. And yet

31:14

when we look at the chart of

31:15

terrorist attacks committed in Russia, we see that

31:18

it is rising. And there are no, well, no proceedings

31:22

no, excuse me, show trials

31:26

public ones, or at least closed ones, but in such a way

31:29

that we could see that yes, indeed,

31:30

terrorists are being caught, imprisoned, tried, and

31:33

these ISIS cells and the rest are being dismantled

31:36

none of that exists, not even close

31:38

instead, it’s just some strange

31:41

random bearded men who

31:43

get jailed there, killed there—who knows what happens to them

31:46

it is entirely possible that they are guilty

31:48

then hold a proper trial so that we

31:51

can be absolutely sure that these

31:53

bearded men are, first, guilty, and

31:55

second, that our FSB is successfully catching

31:59

the people actually guilty of something. But that

32:01

doesn’t happen. I can say this simply from my own experience

32:03

because when I was in a special detention center

32:06

in the yard at

32:07

when I was once serving an administrative

32:09

arrest, this guy with a beard came up to me

32:11

and said, “Alexei, I was told that

32:14

you’re a lawyer. I don’t know anything, but

32:17

help me. I don’t understand. They’ll probably

32:20

kill me. I’ve already been kept here for several consecutive

32:22

terms in a row

32:23

supposedly for hooliganism. I get out,

32:26

FSB officers stop me right away

32:28

take me back to court, and jail me again for 10 days

32:31

for obscene language, because they demand

32:32

that I sign a paper saying that I

32:37

was filmed on hidden camera

32:38

where I’m supposedly giving someone money for

32:40

a trip to Turkey. And I’m afraid that

32:42

after that they’ll put me away for 15 years altogether

32:44

even though I’m just an ordinary taxi driver.” By the way, I told him then:

32:47

“Shave off your beard, because

32:49

every FSB officer hates you for it.” I

32:51

have told this story before, and back then I gave him

32:53

the contacts of

32:54

journalists from *Mediazona* and *Novaya Gazeta*

32:57

after that I never saw him again. He shaved off

32:59

his beard, and I never saw him again

33:02

in the detention center. I hope he’s

33:03

all right. But this is simply how our

33:07

special services work: they just

33:11

grab some guys who, well,

33:13

look, how should I put it—if you were to describe

33:16

a verbal sketch

33:17

of someone who blew something up in Moscow, well,

33:19

just based on your general

33:22

idea of who commits terrorism,

33:25

you would describe an Eastern-looking man with

33:26

a beard. So they just grab those Eastern-looking men

33:28

with beards. Whether they are real

33:30

terrorists with beards or not—that’s another matter

33:32

they simply missed everyone, let it all slip through, just as

33:35

we saw in Novokuznetsk

33:36

a terrorist attack happens, and they lie that there was no

33:38

terrorist attack, even though thousands of people

33:40

are watching it live. I just want to

33:43

give one more example of how

33:47

colossal efforts are supposedly being applied

33:52

for the safety of our country, but all

33:55

these efforts are just an endless dance

33:58

of idiocy. And this week, for example,

34:01

I was struck because there was

34:03

a real little uprising over the very thing

34:06

the Kremlin had supposedly been fighting—

34:07

extremism. And how did they fight

34:09

extremism? Ksenia Larina,

34:11

a well-known TV critic, published

34:13

a bewildered and outraged Facebook post

34:16

saying that an episode shown on TNT

34:18

you can read about it—you won’t be able to

34:21

just go to Facebook and search Larina, the series

34:23

called *Epidemic*, and it

34:26

is not really connected to the political

34:29

situation at all. There’s no Putin there, there are

34:30

zombies there, some kind of post-apocalyptic

34:33

events, and within the framework of

34:36

those events there is one episode

34:39

where, well, there is some terrible future

34:43

feral people are running around and fighting

34:45

with the National Guard (Rosgvardiya)

34:46

that is, law enforcement forces

34:47

are trying to disperse people who have either

34:51

panicked or turned into zombies

34:52

or whatever just happened to them, well

34:53

it’s a standard plot, for God’s sake, for a

34:55

science-fiction film. And they cut it out.

34:58

They really cut it out because, well, even...

35:01

in that post-apocalyptic dust-and-bones...

35:03

call me that complicated word in the future...

35:05

you can't fight with the National Guard (Rosgvardiya, Russia’s internal security force), even if...

35:08

you all turn into zombies, we’ll...

35:10

lock you up if you so much as reach for...

35:12

something — even anything of that sort...

35:15

Just imagine, there was a whole procedure: there was a person sitting there...

35:19

a person in the Presidential Administration...

35:21

watching the series, amusing himself, and then said...

35:24

“zombies or whoever it is there are fighting with...”

35:27

“DIY... we’d better cut that out.” They called...

35:30

somewhere, then everyone called back, called again...

35:33

TNT was told to cut it.

35:35

They probably got indignant there and said...

35:37

“Are you crazy? We can’t just cut out a piece...”

35:39

of a TV series — especially since it’s a series about zombies, not...

35:41

about Putin, about zombies.” But they cut it anyway...

35:44

She couldn’t take it anymore and staged a small rebellion.

35:46

A producer from TNT who...

35:53

well, a female producer with an interesting...

35:56

name — Kristina Snickers — and even...

35:58

even Kristina Snickers couldn’t take it anymore, and so...

36:00

This is what Kristina Snickers looks like; you’d hardly...

36:02

guess from these Instagram photos that she would...

36:03

start protesting.

36:06

But she did start protesting — she actually wrote...

36:08

a post. She works as a producer at TNT. She...

36:10

wrote a post on Instagram — you won’t...

36:14

make it to it now because there’ll be asterisks...

36:15

Snickers’s rebellion was suppressed pretty quickly, and...

36:17

she wrote — here you can see the first part...

36:19

of this post, and the second part of this post...

36:22

has already been deleted. Let me read it out, okay?

36:24

Show it to us in full.

36:25

When you turn on the television, know that...

36:27

there is an invisible sign hanging in front of you:

36:29

Censorship.

36:29

You don’t see it, but it’s there. And now I’ve posted...

36:34

a video of a scene from episode 5 of *To the Lake* (*Epidemiya*, a Russian TV series), which...

36:37

you may never see again. It was...

36:40

censored. This post may possibly be...

36:42

deleted — apparently through my own fault — and people...

36:45

work in entertainment television.

36:47

The tone of the post is literally such that...

36:49

“If you’re reading this post, maybe I no longer...

36:52

have a job” — I mean, like, “maybe this...

36:54

post will be deleted,” and she did delete the post.

36:56

Obviously, they came down on her. But I just...

37:00

want to say that this also takes effort...

37:04

and also requires administrative coordination...

37:06

for TNT...

37:08

a commercial channel that...

37:09

makes money by showing...

37:11

TV series...

37:12

to remove a piece of a series, you have to...

37:14

get someone involved. It can’t just be...

37:16

a matter of, you know, the head...

37:19

of a police department calling and saying, “You’ve got...

37:21

someone fighting with the National Guard (Rosgvardiya) there — cut that out.”

37:23

Someone from the Presidential Administration has to call...

37:24

and for someone from the Presidential Administration to call...

37:26

there has to be...

37:28

some kind of chain — that is, some people...

37:29

have to say and form the opinion that...

37:31

“You know, we think it’s important for...”

37:34

the country’s security...”

37:35

to cut a piece out of a zombie series.” And they...

37:38

cut it out. And that really happened.

37:42

Putin — I’m showing you this for the third time now...

37:45

Can I — right now we have 51...

37:48

thousand people watching live — for the third...

37:50

time I’ll show you Putin’s speech...

37:52

which was dramatically cut off, because it’s...

37:54

simply a symbol of what is happening with us now...

37:56

what was interrupted...

37:57

at the exact moment of this terrorist attack that...

38:00

was taking place, because next he was...

38:02

about to talk about the fight against...

38:04

extremism.

38:05

There I’ll explain how, in our country...

38:06

the fight against extremism works. And Putin...

38:09

addressing the security agencies, welcoming the guests...

38:11

at the ceremonial evening, the president noted...

38:13

the clear and coordinated work of the special services.

38:15

Thanks to their professionalism and courage...

38:18

this year it was possible to prevent more than...

38:20

50 terrorist-related crimes...

38:22

and behind each such...

38:24

prevented crime, as...

38:26

the head of state emphasized, stand...

38:28

saved human lives. Much more actively, we need to...

38:30

counter...

38:33

extremism. How destructive this threat can be for...

38:36

the state and society...

38:38

we can see from the example of a number of...

38:40

foreign countries — and our own sad...

38:42

very recent historical experience — we must not...

38:45

forget. And we must firmly...

38:47

and uncompromisingly suppress provocations...

38:49

and calls for violence.

38:55

That’s how important it is to fight extremism. While...

38:57

you were watching this, an update came in on the...

38:58

news. So, initially there were...

39:01

reports that there had been some kind of...

39:02

explosion, or a second explosion, two explosions — but...

39:06

apparently that turned out to be...

39:10

false. No explosion occurred, and...

39:12

possibly the bomb squad’s work was mistaken for an explosion...

39:15

as they are currently working near the FSB building...

39:17

because they are checking this shooter’s backpack...

39:19

and most often bomb disposal...

39:22

involves, roughly speaking, just shooting at...

39:24

the object being neutralized...

39:26

or simply detonating it there. And now Life News...

39:30

reported at 20:30, 19 minutes ago, that...

39:33

another shot was heard. I’m now waiting...

39:37

for confirmation of all this, but judging by...

39:39

everything, that “shot” was simply...

39:40

the work of the bomb squad...

39:44

being carried out there, by the FSB building. Obviously...

39:49

all the items he brought with him...

39:51

well, as you’d expect from a calculating person...

39:54

who staged the attack and timed it...

39:57

to coincide with Putin’s speech, with the moment...

40:00

of his praise for the FSB — but he could also...

40:03

of course have understood just as well...

40:05

that he would be killed, and he вполне could have...

40:08

to rig his body, his backpack, and

40:09

a weapon—anything at all. So, as I was saying,

40:12

I just showed you a video of Putin

40:14

telling us how important it is to fight

40:17

extremism. You see, I mean, he is literally

40:19

obsessed with this topic, excuse the expression.

40:21

He keeps hammering on about it, and all those

40:23

idiots are sitting there

40:24

listening to him say: right, it is very

40:27

important for us to fight extremism. And all of them

40:30

watch this, and in every police department there is

40:33

a little center where idlers sit

40:35

whose job is supposedly to fight extremism.

40:38

And they watch it, their bosses

40:40

watch it too, and then at the briefing they

40:42

tell each other: right then, we need quotas,

40:45

we need cases under anti-

40:47

extremism laws, otherwise Moscow—well,

40:49

first our regional headquarters, then

40:51

the provincial headquarters, and then Moscow—

40:53

will say: have you people lost your minds over there in

40:56

Vladikavkaz?

40:57

Where is your fight against extremism? If you are

40:59

fighting extremism, then you should

41:01

be identifying extremists and punishing them.

41:04

And if you are not doing that, then it means

41:06

you are doing a bad job. And that is how

41:08

this happens, and we have seen it once again.

41:10

It is just that my program

41:14

was originally, I repeat, a program

41:15

about absurdity.

41:16

And I picked this case because it is

41:18

super-absurd. If I asked you right now—

41:19

55,000 people are watching us

41:22

live—

41:24

if I asked you: name for me

41:26

please, what is the main relatively modern

41:29

film of this kind, the main

41:31

anti-fascist film, a film about the horrors and

41:34

crimes of fascism—most of you

41:37

would say *Schindler's List*, because among

41:39

the more recent films, that is the main one,

41:42

the one that won—*Schindler's List* won

41:43

a huge number of awards,

41:46

Oscars, everyone knows that. You can see here that

41:51

it won 7 Oscars in 1994.

41:54

It is the main

41:58

anti-fascist film of our era. So then,

42:01

the Center for Combating Extremism in the city of Vladikavkaz had

42:05

some idlers sitting there monitoring VKontakte (a Russian social network). That is what

42:08

all these so-called extremism fighters do—

42:10

they monitor VKontakte. On VKontakte,

42:13

they found that a person—a student

42:15

from the local law faculty, I cannot see

42:18

his surname here, unfortunately—

42:20

had a post from 2013. That means the guy was

42:24

13 years old at the time, and he had posted

42:27

a screenshot from the film *Schindler's List*.

42:31

There was a swastika in the screenshot. They declared him

42:35

an extremist, took him to court, and in court

42:38

he was fined and officially recognized as

42:42

an extremist. He was officially added

42:44

to the list of extremists, and you can see it there.

42:47

It was hard to believe, but we

42:49

can simply look at

42:50

the ruling,

42:51

the court ruling stating that

42:53

the person was declared an extremist and

42:56

fined. What is the list

42:57

of extremists? It means that you cannot

42:59

open a bank account, and you will endlessly

43:01

remain under official monitoring.

43:03

Being labeled an extremist in the North Caucasus

43:04

means that these bloated, oversized Centers

43:08

for Combating Extremism have

43:09

idlers and fabricators of criminal cases sitting there.

43:12

They will also constantly keep tabs on you,

43:14

checking up on you, because all of this is in

43:15

the extremists list, where they ask: so,

43:18

department,

43:20

operative officer, what kind of work are you carrying out

43:22

as preventive measures regarding those you have identified as

43:24

extremists? And they have to say:

43:26

we came by, I do not know, chewed him out,

43:28

told him to behave himself, or searched

43:30

him on the street or turned over his apartment—for

43:32

what? For a screenshot from the main anti-fascist

43:36

film of the last twenty years. That is how

43:39

the police we pay for operate.

43:42

And now an update on what is happening at

43:45

Lubyanka: bomb disposal experts are still working there.

43:46

There is some latest video of what

43:49

is happening—19 seconds long. Let us watch it.

44:11

Have you seen this?

44:14

A video recording of bomb disposal experts working

44:17

near the building. But it is obvious that

44:20

at least all of the attackers, however many

44:22

there were—the FSB says there was one—

44:23

have already been shot. This is already the stage of the operation

44:26

where they are simply making sure

44:28

everything is in order. We will see

44:33

a lot of different reactions. I repeat what

44:36

I said at the very beginning: you will see that

44:39

starting tomorrow, perhaps even

44:41

this evening or tomorrow morning,

44:43

clips from my program will be cut out,

44:44

and there will be headlines saying: Navalny is exploiting

44:47

bloodshed for publicity.

44:48

No matter how many blatant

44:51

failures by the Russian special services occur, their reaction

44:55

is always the same: as soon as you start

44:56

criticizing them for inaction,

45:00

their main line is: you dare not exploit this

45:02

for political gain on blood. But at some point

45:05

the moment has to come when we must

45:06

discuss all this idiocy. Thirty-three percent

45:10

of the country's budget goes into this bottomless

45:12

pit. The FSB, and then 350,000 in the National Guard

45:16

(Rosgvardiya, Russia's National Guard)—350,000 people. That is an army.

45:20

Not every country even has an army

45:23

of that size.

45:26

I saw statistics somewhere that

45:27

if the National Guard alone

45:30

were an army by itself, it would rank in the top

45:32

15 largest

45:34

armies in the world. And we maintain the National Guard alone at

45:37

that size. What is all this for?

45:40

The FSB, the Investigative Committee—each of them

45:44

are asking for additional powers

45:46

additional perks for the prosecutor's office

45:49

It has been blown up to gigantic proportions; we have the largest

45:51

number of police officers per capita in the world

45:54

of the population.

45:55

No country in the world has

45:58

such a number of police officers per capita

46:00

of the population. And what do we get in return? Well,

46:02

all right, terrorist attacks do happen here,

46:06

fortunately, ones as blatant as this

46:09

recently was in Moscow

46:11

fortunately do not happen very often. But in terms of

46:13

the number of murders per capita, we are

46:15

really on the level of the most underdeveloped

46:18

African countries. So what exactly are we paying for then?

46:22

There finally needs to be a serious

46:25

conversation. But even about simple things: if

46:27

they installed these video cameras, how much

46:30

did they cost?

46:31

Who do they actually capture?

46:32

Do they even work? Remember, several years

46:34

ago there was a massive scandal when

46:37

the police first reported that they had

46:39

covered all of Moscow with super-mega

46:41

cameras that would super-mega expose

46:43

criminals, and had already caught lots of people.

46:45

Then it turned out that

46:47

a significant portion of those cameras were dummies.

46:49

That is, some of the cameras there were simply

46:51

mock-ups—not cameras at all—and some

46:53

were cameras of such low quality

46:55

that they couldn't properly record anyone; they couldn't

46:57

distinguish a person from

46:59

a car. But we were told that all this

47:02

was all being done for the sake of

47:04

the country's security. We probably have

47:05

video ready where we see how—well, not ready yet,

47:09

more video will be ready shortly—video of how

47:11

one of the attackers is killed. But we also have

47:14

other footage as well. So, the Moscow news agency

47:18

canceled a report saying that

47:21

in a news item which, citing

47:24

the FSB, said there were three attackers and one

47:29

Then, 20 minutes after the FSB

47:31

reported three attackers, it reported

47:33

one attacker. So, this week we saw

47:36

a fairly high-profile event take place, actually,

47:40

an event in which there was, indeed,

47:43

the National Guard (Rosgvardiya) and this entire security

47:45

apparatus in all its glory. They ran there

47:48

literally instantly, and we saw

47:51

what the authorities actually

47:54

use this very Rosgvardiya for. In Moscow,

47:57

they decided to simply shut down a hospital,

47:59

a gynecological hospital, and drive everyone out,

48:03

fire all the doctors. I was sitting there—it was, I think,

48:05

Wednesday—and I get a message on

48:07

Telegram from a representative of the

48:08

Doctors' Alliance trade union, saying

48:11

on video: we've come here with a

48:12

union inspection.

48:13

Because doctors were being fired, and against

48:16

us they called in Rosgvardiya. It was like—

48:18

I thought maybe I was imagining it, half-asleep, early in the morning.

48:20

Then they sent the video: really, Rosgvardiya officers

48:23

with assault rifles are standing there guarding these

48:26

Sobyanin-linked crooks who are simply

48:27

firing doctors. Let's watch this video.

48:32

[music]

48:56

[music]

49:31

58,000 people are watching us live,

49:33

and here's a fun fact:

49:36

a Rosgvardiya officer's phone rings,

49:38

and the ringtone goes something like:

49:39

"Our division is a mess, everyone's lying around here

49:42

drunk," and so on. So that's also just

49:44

a characteristic sign of how these

49:48

Rosgvardiya troops themselves assess what's happening in the

49:50

country. But what's especially shameful is that they were called in

49:53

at all,

49:54

because some poor women—women in

49:57

white coats at this hospital—came and

50:00

were told: we're firing you because your

50:02

building is needed by someone else. And it turned out that

50:05

that is exactly what happened: this building

50:07

was meant to be handed over to a well-known

50:09

charity closely connected to Putin

50:12

run by Anna Federmesser (a prominent Russian charity figure),

50:14

she is a member of the All-Russia People's Front, and she already wrote a post

50:17

on Facebook, quite brazenly, saying that

50:19

yes, we took over this building because

50:21

we need it for our medical

50:23

purposes. In other words, they didn't want to

50:24

turn it into a commercial hotel; they

50:26

wanted to make it a medical facility. But

50:28

still, these are the Voinovs and the rest of the

50:31

Putin nomenklatura (the ruling elite), so they can

50:33

just come in and tell all the doctors:

50:34

you're fired, and throw them all out. And if they

50:37

make a fuss and call the union,

50:40

Rosgvardiya comes there—arrives

50:42

instantly—and everything works efficiently there because

50:46

this isn't some gunman with an assault rifle; it's

50:48

just some women who are

50:50

afraid of you, and all they can say is,

50:52

well, you should be ashamed, as they

50:54

said in the video—you have

50:56

mothers and children too. That's how

50:59

the whole system works. Rosgvardiya is needed, and this whole

51:03

security machine, and all this

51:05

endless Putinist talk about

51:09

extremism, is needed simply in order

51:13

to intimidate people

51:15

if they ever dare say: excuse me, but

51:20

it's not true that you're paying us

51:23

very high salaries, and don't fire

51:27

us. That's what Rosgvardiya is for. And

51:29

then there was also

51:31

what's really interesting is that now it's not even me anymore,

51:34

and not Navalny's union either. By the way,

51:36

if you work in the public sector and want to

51:39

check your salary, go to the website

51:41

of Navalny's union. But now even our

51:42

Speaker of the State Duma

51:46

gets up at the podium and says,

51:48

what can you do—there simply are no salaries

51:50

in line with the May decrees (Putin's policy directives), simply none,

51:52

and he is arguing with the leadership about it.

51:55

the department by the health minister

51:57

Skvortsova, and Skvortsova stated that

52:00

the average salary of doctors is 79,000 rubles (about $1,250) and

52:02

Volodin, let's take a look, he is entering into

52:04

a polemic with him, but really just wants to say

52:06

who are you arguing with? United Russia is arguing

52:08

with itself, obviously. Let's look at Volodin

52:10

who suddenly started posturing as an opposition figure, saying

52:13

the figure is 79

52:15

people read this and look at what the discussion is about

52:20

it's nowhere near that — not even close, not 10, no, no, 60

52:28

colleagues,

52:29

I want to tell you: our country has

52:33

a federal structure, and each region

52:36

has its own average wage across the economy

52:39

and doctors' salaries are then calculated from that

52:42

at double that level, in accordance with the decree, but

52:46

there are specifics, because the fund being discussed

52:49

includes

52:51

the salary of the chief physician

52:53

the deputy chief physicians, accountants, and

52:56

so on, and after that whatever remains goes to

53:00

ordinary doctors

53:05

so once again I want to say: guys, who are you

53:08

arguing with at all? Who are you even

53:09

talking to?

53:10

One is the chairman of the State Duma

53:13

who approved the budget — Putin's budget

53:16

Putin wrote the budget, and they approved it

53:19

United Russia members appointed the governor, they

53:21

appointed the minister, they lie about

53:23

the implementation of the May decrees, they lie about

53:25

salaries, and then one of them says a whole lot of

53:27

"Why are you lying here?" He approved the budget himself, he himself

53:34

leads this party, he himself made it so

53:37

that they have to lie about high salaries, but

53:40

since the pressure is mounting, he comes out and

53:43

speaks and acts outraged, but when

53:45

ordinary people are outraged, they show up

53:47

and say, well then, we're ready — let's, for

53:49

those who have just joined us, 58,000 people

53:51

are watching live; we will show two

53:55

main videos available at the moment

53:56

of what is happening

53:58

what happened in Moscow, but the first footage

54:01

which, well, in such quantity we had previously

54:04

seen only since the times of

54:06

2014, and only from the U.S., when people

54:08

run through the streets in terror and the sounds of

54:11

a shootout using

54:13

automatic weapons can be heard

54:42

Yes, you saw the video recording of what

54:47

was happening right there, directly during

54:49

the shootout

54:50

Right now they are showing us and telling us

54:52

that, apparently, it is all completely over

54:55

journalists and eyewitnesses are already beginning to

54:57

leave the scene, and we have

54:59

new video

55:00

apparently this is the moment when

55:04

the attacker was shot dead

55:05

and at that moment he was simply firing

55:07

randomly at the building and

55:09

taking cover behind one of the building's columns

55:11

opposite. Let's take a look — they took him down while

55:35

I don't like it, but they dropped the bastard; he apparently had

55:44

various awards listed on some website

55:56

yes, well,

55:58

it is quite obvious that this is video footage

56:01

of this attacker being shot dead

56:03

the terrorist who carried out

56:05

who clearly carried out a planned

56:08

terrorist attack timed to Chekist Day (a Russian observance honoring state security services)

56:10

timed to Putin's live call-in show, where he

56:12

was very briskly reporting that things with

56:14

terrorists were going very well, and timed to

56:16

Putin's speech at the ceremonial

56:18

concert for Chekist Day, where he also

56:20

talked about how wonderfully we

56:23

solve terrorist attacks and how everything is

56:26

fine here. Let's watch once more

56:28

probably the most horrifying video of today

56:31

where apparently this attacker

56:33

shot one of the FSB officers

56:36

who was running from one position to another

56:41

poly poly poly 1, so in this way, according to

56:53

the official information as of today

56:55

one person carried out the attack, while at least

56:57

one FSB officer was shot dead, and two

57:00

FSB officers, according to the Health Ministry and

57:03

the FSB itself, are in extremely

57:05

serious condition

57:06

It is not entirely clear whether both of them were

57:09

in extremely serious condition and one

57:11

of them died, making that the fatality, or whether

57:12

there is one dead and two more in extremely serious

57:15

condition

57:16

but of course we all hope that the number of victims and

57:19

injured will be as low as possible

57:22

As new information comes in, I will

57:24

keep telling you. The main champion of

57:27

security measures here, the main

57:31

person who boasts about his super-mega security

57:33

measures and surveillance cameras, is

57:36

of course Sergei Sobyanin, a man who

57:39

spares no money on two things

57:42

first and foremost on his endless

57:44

PR, and he spends money on the mass

57:47

media in order to

57:49

tell everyone how much better Moscow has become under

57:50

Sergei Semyonovich, and on the other hand they

57:52

really are like maniacs

57:53

they have covered all of Moscow with cameras

57:56

Previously the city that held the record

57:59

the record-holder, sorry, was London; there

58:02

there was a huge, complex system of surveillance cameras

58:06

now they have simply blanketed all of Moscow

58:08

and I repeat, we are being told that not only

58:11

can they now single out every person

58:13

wherever you go, some operator can

58:17

look and see: there goes Petrov in blue

58:20

because that information is immediately

58:22

linked to some kind of

58:24

passport data, that is, they

58:26

can identify a person instantly. More than that,

58:29

according to Sobyanin and the security services,

58:33

the system is designed in such a way

58:35

that it will find you even if you put on

58:37

a blindfold over your eyes, if you put on a cap

58:40

where only your eyes are visible, or even

58:42

a hood, and not a single inch of your

58:45

not a single centimeter of your body is

58:47

visible, they would still recognize you by

58:49

your gait or in some other way. I mean,

58:51

these enormous security measures are

58:54

being taken

58:55

but nevertheless, some people with

58:58

assault rifles still somehow—with assault rifles, as we

59:01

can see even in this video, apparently

59:02

he was wearing body armor. Well, maybe because of

59:06

the warm clothing you can’t really tell, but

59:08

there were even initial reports

59:11

from special forces officers that were relayed by

59:13

Mediazona (an independent Russian news outlet), saying

59:15

that the attacker was dressed in a

59:18

special forces uniform. So if

59:21

a person is walking around in a helmet, body armor, and with an

59:25

assault rifle, then probably he ought to

59:27

draw some attention, and presumably

59:29

you’d want that wonderful super-

59:31

smart camera system of Sobyanin (Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin)

59:33

to somehow light up with a red

59:35

warning light if it identified not someone

59:37

who went out to a rally, but someone who is walking around

59:40

with an assault rifle. Because those are the people you need to catch,

59:42

not the ones standing with a placard

59:45

that says, “We demand that our

59:48

candidates be allowed onto the ballot,” but the one carrying

59:50

some object that the camera

59:52

identifies as an assault rifle. If it can

59:54

distinguish and identify us by our gait,

59:57

then presumably a weapon of that size

1:00:00

could also be recognized by that same

1:00:03

camera. Sergei Semyonovich Sobyanin—there was also

1:00:06

something else connected to him, what seems to me a rather

1:00:09

symbolic event that took place

1:00:12

this week: he gave his report to

1:00:15

the deputies. That is, the mayor of Moscow is supposed

1:00:17

to report annually to the deputies, and

1:00:18

there we got full confirmation of

1:00:22

why everything is arranged this way, why they

1:00:25

didn’t allow a single person onto the ballot, and

1:00:28

why they not only didn’t allow a single

1:00:29

person through, but also

1:00:31

arrested all the independent candidates and

1:00:34

are still arresting them to this day

1:00:35

FBK director Ivan Zhdanov

1:00:38

was released from a special detention center just the day before yesterday

1:00:41

He was jailed for 10 days for taking part in

1:00:44

the Moscow protest rallies. Well,

1:00:47

in fact, he was arrested for

1:00:48

daring to say that he, too, wanted

1:00:51

to be a deputy. True, after getting out,

1:00:53

of the detention center, Zhdanov immediately

1:00:55

said that he wants to go even further and

1:00:57

run for the State Duma. Let’s quickly take a look.

1:00:58

FBK director Ivan Zhdanov: Hello everyone,

1:01:01

I’ve just returned after 10

1:01:03

days under arrest—another 10 days over those

1:01:06

summer protests, when we demanded our

1:01:09

right to participate in the elections

1:01:10

to the Moscow City Duma. During these ten

1:01:12

days, I spent a lot of time being taken to courts, and one of the

1:01:15

escorts said it would be good

1:01:17

to make Moscow a restricted city

1:01:20

so that everyone entering and leaving the city would do so with

1:01:22

passes. You know, I’m absolutely sure that in officials’ dreams

1:01:26

this idea is very much alive. I

1:01:28

believe that all of Russia should be

1:01:31

an open and free country

1:01:32

I believe there should be no political

1:01:35

cases like the Moscow Case (a criminal case against protest participants) and many

1:01:37

others

1:01:38

During these ten days, I made the decision that

1:01:40

in 2021 I will definitely

1:01:43

run for the State Duma

1:01:45

of the Russian Federation

1:01:49

60

1:01:51

people are watching us live. We are

1:01:52

at the same time discussing the incoming

1:01:55

news from central Moscow, where there has been

1:01:58

a shooting just now, and

1:02:00

obviously a terrorist attack—the FSB (Federal Security Service) has already

1:02:02

recognized what is happening as a terrorist

1:02:04

attack. It is fairly obvious that the person who

1:02:07

apparently knew in advance that he would be

1:02:09

on a suicide mission carried out this symbolic

1:02:13

attack on Chekist Day (the professional holiday of Russian security services) and on the day

1:02:15

of Putin’s speech. So, returning to

1:02:17

Sobyanin and to why his report

1:02:21

to the deputies, which looked

1:02:23

—my God—humiliating for a giant

1:02:25

city like Moscow, truly

1:02:27

humiliating—why they did it all this way:

1:02:29

because the man is simply unfit for

1:02:32

public politics at all. He’s simply

1:02:34

a coward, terrified that

1:02:38

there might be someone there who asks him an

1:02:40

unsanctioned question. On the eve of his appearance,

1:02:43

on the eve of Sobyanin’s arrival, before

1:02:46

he was supposed to answer questions

1:02:48

from the deputies, special amendments were made to

1:02:52

the rules of procedure. You’d think, right, that this is how it works:

1:02:54

you’re a deputy, and several tens or hundreds of

1:02:56

thousands of people voted for you,

1:02:58

you represent a huge

1:03:01

district of Moscow where 250,000 people live

1:03:03

and then the mayor comes—rarely, maybe once

1:03:06

a year—but you ask him questions and he answers. No:

1:03:07

they introduced special amendments

1:03:10

under which deputies simply cannot ask

1:03:12

questions individually—only factions can, and each

1:03:15

faction—that is, United Russia,

1:03:17

the Communists, Yabloko, and A Just

1:03:20

Russia—gets three questions from the factions, submitted in advance

1:03:23

in writing. But if you think

1:03:27

you can sit down and come up with

1:03:29

some tricky or pointed question and

1:03:32

at least ask it in writing ahead of time,

1:03:34

not a chance—you’re very much mistaken

1:03:36

because, for example, the Yabloko party

1:03:39

and deputy Besedin

1:03:41

decided to ask a fairly obvious

1:03:44

question of Sobyanin: why he lied about

1:03:47

supposed mass riots

1:03:49

that were allegedly taking place in Moscow. There you have it.

1:03:51

You can see Sobyanin's post and Besedina's post.

1:03:54

In it, she writes: I decided to ask a question on behalf of

1:03:56

our faction, this question, and Besedina was

1:03:57

not allowed to.

1:03:58

United Russia made a decision that

1:04:01

you know, this question

1:04:04

was not relevant. So there they were, the deputies,

1:04:07

a whole faction, several people, saying:

1:04:09

we want to ask a question. No, you can't ask

1:04:12

the question. Actual deputies were forbidden

1:04:15

from asking this question. But fortunately,

1:04:18

Besedina did well — she simply

1:04:21

at the very end of the speech

1:04:24

stood up and started shouting from her seat

1:04:26

this question. Let's watch this

1:04:28

moment.

1:04:46

[music]

1:04:52

[music]

1:04:54

Sergei,

1:04:56

This summer, we went on television

1:04:58

and said that mass riots had taken place in Moscow.

1:05:00

Riots.

1:05:05

Case closed.

1:05:07

People are still under arrest.

1:05:09

Do you feel any responsibility

1:05:11

toward these people?

1:05:14

[music]

1:05:18

Now let's look at Sobyanin's answer. I would

1:05:21

just like to draw your

1:05:22

attention to the fact that the microphones were never turned on.

1:05:24

Here, the deputy was literally forced to shout from

1:05:27

her seat — they wouldn't turn on her microphone. In front of her,

1:05:30

some United Russia

1:05:32

crook named Kirill Shchitov, a deputy we also did an investigation on,

1:05:35

also about

1:05:37

him,

1:05:37

and his wealth of unclear origin.

1:05:40

That disgusting lackey walks up to her

1:05:42

and says, well, everything's fine there, while blocking her

1:05:43

from Sobyanin, you see. And as you often

1:05:48

see, Meduza has already published Sobyanin's answer —

1:05:50

but this question is simply not visible there.

1:05:54

At the end, he finishes with his last

1:05:56

phrase, says thank you, and just runs off.

1:05:58

Sobyanin's answer to this question: I understand

1:06:01

that the rules — disrespect toward your

1:06:03

colleagues, perhaps — can such... here we...

1:06:05

Please, I'm just asking.

1:06:13

Yes, yes, stay seated, it was easier to hear that way.

1:06:17

Shchitov.

1:06:17

[music]

1:06:26

Of course I do. But let's figure out

1:06:30

why they ended up there.

1:06:31

The fact that people were hurt, that such a

1:06:36

conflict happened,

1:06:37

that people are serving sentences today — first and foremost,

1:06:41

that is on those provocateurs who

1:06:43

sent them there, who at a completely legal

1:06:45

rally called on them to go with

1:06:48

some kind of glee — they were allowed to, they came

1:06:50

to a legal rally, and now let's go

1:06:52

storm city hall.

1:06:53

Come on, there is no such country, no

1:06:56

such city in the world where it would be

1:06:58

permitted to block streets and sidewalks,

1:07:00

to block government

1:07:01

institutions. If such a country existed, I guarantee

1:07:04

you that such a country would simply

1:07:06

fall apart. There would be nothing there but anarchy

1:07:08

and disorder. So your

1:07:11

question should first of all be directed

1:07:13

of course at those who urged young people and

1:07:15

others to go under police batons. This is

1:07:19

a disgraceful story, I agree.

1:07:21

After that, to say thank you and literally

1:07:24

almost run away — why did he run away, and why

1:07:27

wasn't Besedina's microphone turned on? Why?

1:07:30

There wasn't even the slightest dialogue.

1:07:33

Why? Because they would simply have been told: excuse me,

1:07:34

Sergei Semyonovich (Sobyanin's patronymic), you're lying, because in

1:07:37

every wealthy country, in every

1:07:40

prosperous city, we regularly see

1:07:42

huge anti-government

1:07:45

demonstrations with road blockages, because

1:07:48

in any democratic country there is

1:07:50

a government and there is an opposition.

1:07:51

It is supported by a sufficient number of

1:07:53

people, and that is what democracy is about:

1:07:56

a balance of interests that ultimately leads

1:07:58

to normal

1:08:00

government and prosperity. There are some,

1:08:02

there are others, and everyone is allowed to speak.

1:08:05

It's not like they don't let you hold a rally,

1:08:08

and then, even if you get elected, they still don't

1:08:11

allow you to say a single word.

1:08:12

We're being told right now that, well, here we are with you

1:08:15

on this underground, semi-legal

1:08:18

YouTube, and let me remind you that on December 23 in

1:08:21

Russia there will be some very damn important, very

1:08:24

important drills on restricting the internet.

1:08:27

They'll supposedly be determining whether they can

1:08:29

shut down the internet, whether they can shut down

1:08:31

certain websites. They will also spend

1:08:33

tens, possibly hundreds of millions

1:08:35

of rubles on this, because it's just so important for

1:08:36

the country's security. So while we are here with

1:08:39

you on YouTube discussing the terrorist attack,

1:08:43

the assault, the consequences, who is guilty and who

1:08:45

is innocent, what the security services should do,

1:08:47

what the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service) should do — on Channel One, for an hour and a half,

1:08:50

they've been discussing the nuclear world on a show called

1:08:54

*Let Them Talk*, and at the beginning

1:08:56

of the *Vremya* news program, Kirill Kleymenov

1:08:58

announced four topics, and all of them were connected to

1:09:01

Putin's press conference. And it's still not clear

1:09:03

whether there will be any segment at all about the shooting

1:09:06

in Moscow. I mean, maybe it will be

1:09:08

at the end, maybe it won't be there at all.

1:09:11

But this perfectly shows how

1:09:13

everything is arranged. Do you think they just

1:09:16

stay silent? For them, every gas explosion is just a 'pop'.

1:09:19

For them, an obvious terrorist attack in Novokuznetsk

1:09:23

when a building collapsed — dozens of

1:09:25

people died — that wasn't a terrorist attack at all either,

1:09:27

just a gas 'pop.' Nothing ever happens for them. They have

1:09:30

an excellent,

1:09:32

magnificent fight against terrorism, and

1:09:34

the moment we start looking, we see that

1:09:35

People in body armor are running around Moscow.

1:09:37

They're firing assault rifles, and over there everything is supposedly

1:09:39

just perfectly fine, and Sobyanin wants

1:09:42

to live in such a wonderful world, so he doesn't let

1:09:44

a single deputy in. All of them—

1:09:48

these people, Sobyanin and Putin alike—

1:09:50

are simply unfit for any kind of public

1:09:52

politics. The slightest competition, the slightest thing, and

1:09:55

they lose. Exactly, absolutely. Already

1:09:57

after Sobyanin sat through

1:09:59

12—Tarasov from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF) said live on air

1:10:02

that

1:10:03

this is a sham, this is not

1:10:06

politics at all. Let's watch. It looked disgraceful

1:10:09

when some colleagues

1:10:14

decided to shield

1:10:18

the mayor with their own bodies.

1:10:19

Why was this done? Simply to shut people up

1:10:21

and not let them speak about those

1:10:24

urgent, painful problems that we

1:10:27

have all faced during the elections and after

1:10:30

the elections. And how did they answer questions?

1:10:34

They answered anything except

1:10:37

the substance of the issue.

1:10:39

Runaway urban development, transportation

1:10:43

problems, healthcare, education—

1:10:47

the most pressing problems—we carefully

1:10:50

avoid them. At most, we're told that, well,

1:10:54

people need to be patient, unpopular measures

1:10:56

have to be taken. Then those issues need to be discussed with people,

1:10:59

the questions and problems that exist. But instead

1:11:02

our authorities have hidden again. I believe that

1:11:05

a person cannot consider himself a real

1:11:08

politician if he hides from

1:11:10

a direct, frank conversation. Thank you.

1:11:13

Professor Khan said, well, really,

1:11:14

United Russia members are shielding Sobyanin with their bodies.

1:11:17

From whom? From someone asking a question—

1:11:21

a deputy elected by Muscovites, a deputy

1:11:23

whose microphone United Russia had already

1:11:25

cut off, while some woman there is trying

1:11:27

to ask a question, and a United Russia member comes running up—

1:11:29

this tsarist mug stands in front of her and hides

1:11:32

her from view, supposedly protecting Sobyanin from her.

1:11:35

That's how this government works. Several times

1:11:38

on air I mentioned the terrorist attack in

1:11:41

Novokuznetsk—I'm mistaken, of course, a bit—

1:11:42

in Kuznetsk,

1:11:43

but in Magnitogorsk there was an obvious,

1:11:46

absolutely obvious terrorist attack. A lot was written about it,

1:11:48

even by Kremlin-aligned media, and there, as you

1:11:51

remember, there was a whole story about how

1:11:53

a Gazelle van had been shot up, and before that

1:11:56

weapons had been found—clear signs

1:11:58

of a shootout. Quite a significant

1:12:02

number of security service representatives

1:12:04

said informally that this was a terrorist attack, while they were telling us

1:12:07

it was a gas explosion.

1:12:09

Now look: if they labeled the terrorist attack in

1:12:13

Magnitogorsk as a gas explosion, that

1:12:16

means either they are not investigating it

1:12:19

or they will simply limit themselves to, well,

1:12:22

the terrorists shot someone in that

1:12:23

van and that's it. But what are the consequences

1:12:26

of covering up a terrorist attack? There is one main

1:12:31

consequence: there will be another

1:12:33

terrorist attack, because no lessons were learned.

1:12:35

Any security service can make a mistake, but

1:12:38

the biggest failure, in fact, of the

1:12:39

American intelligence services was the September 11

1:12:43

attacks. It was a colossal failure. That is,

1:12:45

they spent unimaginable amounts of money on

1:12:47

security, wiretapping, everything else,

1:12:49

and nevertheless they missed that attack. But

1:12:51

some conclusions were drawn from it.

1:12:54

The intelligence services were criticized; the whole nation

1:12:58

picked it apart in detail—films, books, well,

1:13:02

a bunch of conspiracy theorists saying

1:13:03

there were no explosions at all—

1:13:04

everything was analyzed second by second.

1:13:09

But we're simply told, you know,

1:13:10

there was no Magnitogorsk attack, which means

1:13:14

they failed to prevent it.

1:13:16

They lied that it never happened, which means

1:13:19

they'll do it again. And besides, that

1:13:21

means not a single word from the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service) can be trusted,

1:13:24

and not a single word from

1:13:27

Vladimir Putin can be trusted either, because

1:13:31

even formally, today's

1:13:33

press conference was a circus sideshow, just

1:13:36

awful. In the last few years, generally speaking,

1:13:38

it's always been a circus, but this time

1:13:41

the embodiment of it all was one plain hellish

1:13:44

Bulgarian lunatic. You're laughing on purpose,

1:13:46

but if you didn't watch that live broadcast,

1:13:49

there really was some completely crazy

1:13:51

guy with a Bulgarian flag in one hand and a

1:13:55

huge icon in the other, who first walked around everywhere

1:13:57

and then, right in the middle of the broadcast,

1:14:00

just started shouting various things,

1:14:04

praising Putin, and Putin just, without

1:14:07

the slightest embarrassment, said, 'Thank you, thank you, let's

1:14:09

hear from the crazy Bulgarian first.'

1:14:16

Thank you.

1:14:19

Thank you.

1:14:26

In all the major

1:14:34

Thank you very much, thank you.

1:14:39

Thank you. Now Magadan.

1:14:44

Good afternoon... Well, that's how it

1:14:47

looked. It really was

1:14:48

just such a colossal

1:14:50

humiliating event for everyone, but first

1:14:53

and foremost, of course, for that whole

1:14:56

dubious horde calling themselves

1:14:59

journalists, though only a few of them there were actually journalists.

1:15:01

There were only a few real journalists there, and by the way,

1:15:04

the main question came from the Russian service of the

1:15:06

BBC.

1:15:07

That was real journalism. But overall it was just

1:15:09

really a bunch of idiots who

1:15:12

brought gifts—

1:15:14

jars of jam, little posters,

1:15:17

messages of support for Putin—and every

1:15:19

question

1:15:20

began with, 'Thank you, Vladimir Vladimirovich,'

1:15:23

'Here in our... Vladimir, I'd like to begin by

1:15:25

saying thank you very much, but here

1:15:27

in Omsk, to be honest, it's impossible to live here, we...'

1:15:29

We’re all dying here, our wages are tiny, and...

1:15:31

the salaries are tiny, and everything is monstrously bad, thank you very much.

1:15:34

Vladimir Vladimirovich, how is it that people

1:15:36

have to beg for tickets to the parade? I mean,

1:15:40

it’s truly a hellish trash circus, humiliating

1:15:44

beyond words. But we don’t care about those

1:15:46

journalists — that is, the people who

1:15:47

are now working as journalists for the authorities.

1:15:49

They deserve this kind of humiliation, and

1:15:51

much worse humiliation too. But should we

1:15:55

really start watching this? It’s a huge

1:15:56

country, and we can simply see how

1:15:59

this is a monstrous disgrace on a grand scale.

1:16:01

Valeria asks me whether this terrorist attack

1:16:04

will become a pretext to tighten the screws on us,

1:16:06

to intensify censorship — like the law on

1:16:09

insulting the authorities — making things even worse. Valeria,

1:16:13

well, what do you think yourself? Of course yes. For

1:16:17

20 years now, for 20 years, we’ve

1:16:21

watched this happen every single time.

1:16:24

Whenever there is a terrorist attack

1:16:26

connected with a failure of the security services, what

1:16:28

happens? We ‘bomb Voronezh’ (a Russian expression meaning to punish our own people instead of solving the real problem), and

1:16:31

new laws are passed under which our lives will become

1:16:34

much worse. This does not in any way

1:16:37

help fight terrorists, not at all,

1:16:40

not for a single second. But

1:16:42

there will be some new procurements, and through them

1:16:45

huge amounts of money will be stolen. There will be

1:16:47

another fight against the internet. Remember when there was

1:16:49

the terrorist attack in Arkhangelsk and the Arkhangelsk

1:16:51

region, when a man with a grenade

1:16:53

blew it up in the FSB reception area?

1:16:55

What did that lead to? In the Pskov region,

1:16:59

a journalist is being tried for writing that

1:17:01

this happened, in fact, because

1:17:03

the FSB is busy with nonsense. It

1:17:06

simply enrages people, and she is being tried for

1:17:08

‘justifying terrorism.’ And against

1:17:10

several other people, criminal cases have

1:17:12

been opened for ‘justifying’

1:17:15

terrorism, new extremist laws in advance,

1:17:17

new restrictions on the internet — all of this

1:17:20

will happen, it will. Remember Zimnyaya Vishnya (the Winter Cherry mall fire in Kemerovo).

1:17:23

That wasn’t even a terrorist attack, it was

1:17:26

simply a horrific, nightmarish man-made

1:17:28

disaster. And what conclusion was drawn from it? Did we

1:17:31

change anything in terms of fire

1:17:33

safety? Did we disband the pointless EMERCOM (Russia’s Ministry of Emergency Situations)

1:17:37

or do anything else? Certainly not.

1:17:40

We don’t necessarily need to abolish EMERCOM entirely, but we do need

1:17:41

to acknowledge its extremely low effectiveness

1:17:44

and finally discuss the fact that EMERCOM is not

1:17:47

some kind of super-mega wonderful

1:17:50

agency. It is an agency that is very

1:17:52

ineffective, very corrupt, and in

1:17:55

reality works very badly.

1:17:57

No, none of that happened. They simply started

1:17:59

again: they found some clown,

1:18:01

a Ukrainian prankster who at that time

1:18:04

was calling around like an idiot, talking about

1:18:06

some nonexistent, exaggerated

1:18:08

death tolls, and then the state’s anger

1:18:11

was directed at this clown. And who ended up

1:18:13

being blamed? The internet. There’s a lot of

1:18:16

fake news on the internet, so they passed new laws to combat

1:18:19

that fake news — just stupidly.

1:18:19

A law under which anything can be blocked,

1:18:22

blocked and blocked. So now we are being

1:18:26

told that a source

1:18:28

from RBC (a Russian media outlet), in the security services, says that four

1:18:32

out of the five people wounded at Lubyanka

1:18:34

work in the security services. Apparently this

1:18:38

is evidence that, after all,

1:18:39

the main part

1:18:40

of the shootout took place possibly inside

1:18:43

the reception area. Or perhaps he was simply

1:18:45

firing back at special forces officers, and that is why

1:18:47

they were wounded. But I repeat,

1:18:50

the latest information from the FSB is

1:18:54

that one FSB officer was killed and two

1:18:56

people — it’s unclear who exactly —

1:18:59

and two people, or rather two people, received

1:19:01

extremely severe injuries. One of

1:19:03

them

1:19:04

but at least, as for those seriously

1:19:06

affected: one dead, at least one

1:19:09

and possibly two seriously injured. But

1:19:11

now the source is again saying that

1:19:12

there were wounded people. The information that

1:19:15

a radio station correspondent says

1:19:18

he spent 40 minutes trying to get through to

1:19:20

the Moscow Interior Ministry office and got this answer

1:19:22

from the duty police officer: ‘I have no

1:19:24

information.’

1:19:25

None at all. And on this matter, you understand, since 7 p.m.

1:19:31

all social media has been flooded with videos

1:19:33

showing what looks like a shootout.

1:19:36

Now just imagine: you open

1:19:41

let’s show it again for those who

1:19:42

have just joined us — more than 60,000 people

1:19:45

are watching. Here is the very first video that

1:19:47

appeared suggesting that in Moscow

1:19:50

something was wrong. It’s simply

1:19:52

a girl sitting in some café and basically

1:19:54

giggling as she says that somewhere nearby

1:19:56

there is shooting, and armed

1:19:58

police officers are running along Kuznetsky Most. Let’s

1:20:01

watch this video again.

1:20:15

She comments: ‘Right now we are on

1:20:17

Kuznetsky Most. Opposite us there is

1:20:21

a bank branch from which

1:20:22

police officers periodically come running out.’ You

1:20:24

can see from the outside that even if you don’t live in

1:20:43

Moscow, if you have at least a rough idea of

1:20:45

the geography, and you hear ‘shooting in the area of

1:20:49

Lubyanka, in the area of Kuznetsky Most,’

1:20:50

two buildings immediately come to mind. Building

1:20:55

number one: the FSB. Building number two:

1:20:58

Detsky Mir (a famous children’s store). And at that moment, suppose

1:21:01

your wife with the children, or your relative,

1:21:04

or someone else has gone to buy gifts for

1:21:07

New Year at Detsky Mir. You hear

1:21:10

reports of shooting and you become very

1:21:14

anxious. You start calling

1:21:17

the police to find out what is happening. One

1:21:18

of the functions of the police

1:21:20

is to inform the public — or at least one of

1:21:23

the functions of MTS, and tells us that

1:21:25

for 40 minutes, a correspondent from the pro-Kremlin

1:21:28

which, by the way, effectively belongs

1:21:31

to the Kremlin, Govorit Moskva, called, and in the end

1:21:34

the city duty officer told him that they

1:21:36

had no information about it. Why the hell

1:21:39

are we spending so much money on this then? We

1:21:41

have video 6000—how can it

1:21:42

show, live on air, the shot-up cars at the

1:21:45

crime scene? Let's watch 15

1:21:48

seconds of lies.

1:21:55

But that is the exit from there, and most likely, judging by

1:22:05

everything, this is hardly the car that

1:22:07

the terrorist used. Most likely, this is

1:22:10

a vehicle that may have been

1:22:12

used simply as a barrier, as

1:22:14

cover either for the attackers or for the

1:22:18

special forces, but we can see that, overall,

1:22:22

just an uninvolved person, a random

1:22:25

passerby, could easily have been hit by a

1:22:27

stray bullet. And the latest information

1:22:30

tells us that in the Detsky Mir building (a famous children's department store)

1:22:32

near the observation deck,

1:22:34

and the order to close the exit from Detsky

1:22:37

Mir came at around 7:00 p.m., and

1:22:41

the latest information is that

1:22:43

the attacker was killed at about 7:15 p.m.

1:22:46

Let's return to Putin and his press

1:22:52

conference—his huge

1:22:53

press conference, where he said

1:22:55

how wonderfully we are fighting terrorism

1:22:57

and where he was also very complimentary

1:23:01

about the Russian special services. That is exactly

1:23:03

why he is now in such an extremely

1:23:07

difficult situation now, when

1:23:09

on the eve of

1:23:11

Chekist Day (the Russian security services' professional holiday), this so obviously

1:23:14

brazen and planned attack on the

1:23:17

FSB happened so demonstratively, almost ritualistically.

1:23:20

One person, if it really was just one

1:23:22

attacker,

1:23:23

simply with an assault rifle, could have killed many

1:23:26

passersby and could have killed police officers.

1:23:28

But, that is, he probably could not have

1:23:30

carried out some super-mega, truly

1:23:32

major terrorist attack. Rather, he simply

1:23:34

went in like a suicide attacker to express something.

1:23:37

And we will probably soon find out—if we are

1:23:40

allowed to learn the truth—we will find out who he

1:23:43

was and what his motives were. Maybe

1:23:46

he left some kind of note or something else.

1:23:49

What nationality he was, what kind of

1:23:50

motive there may have been. But today's press conference

1:23:54

actually showed how

1:23:57

well, why this was in fact such a

1:24:00

grand failure. Because Putin

1:24:02

really—this press conference was once again

1:24:05

devoted to two things: Ukraine and

1:24:07

an endless discussion of the Second World

1:24:09

War, the Great Patriotic War (the Russian term for the Soviet-German front of WWII). That is,

1:24:12

you can see how completely uninterested he is in

1:24:14

doctors or whatever other

1:24:18

problems there may be. But as soon as it comes to

1:24:21

Ukraine,

1:24:22

his eyes light up—he knows which branch of the

1:24:26

gas pipeline goes where, remembers all the figures

1:24:28

by heart.

1:24:29

He gives these absolutely enormous lectures

1:24:33

about whether it was right or wrong

1:24:35

for the Soviet Union to act the way it did

1:24:38

in the situation of signing the

1:24:40

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and then goes on about

1:24:42

Czechoslovakia,

1:24:43

and where the Polish government was at

1:24:45

that moment. That is what he likes—oh Lord,

1:24:48

talking about Ukraine.

1:24:50

He knows the situation in Ukraine in every

1:24:53

detail. There was an absolutely astonishing moment when

1:24:56

Putin suddenly began worrying that

1:24:59

too much timber is being logged in Ukraine,

1:25:02

and soon in the Carpathians

1:25:04

there will be no forest left. Let's

1:25:07

listen—Putin is worried about the Carpathians.

1:25:09

The Westerners demand that round timber

1:25:13

must definitely be exported.

1:25:15

They want permission to ship it to Europe, but then

1:25:18

the Carpathian slopes will be left bare—

1:25:20

there will be naked rock there if the timber

1:25:23

is hauled away. So he worries about the Carpathians, and can talk in such

1:25:27

detail about them. Then he went on to condemn

1:25:29

the land laws that were passed in Ukraine.

1:25:31

We basically have the same thing here, but that is not

1:25:34

the point. But for Ukrainians, land—land

1:25:36

is something sacred, apparently. It was all said with such importance.

1:25:39

The phrase was used: 'Donbas doesn't talk nonsense' (a local slang expression implying people from Donbas mean business).

1:25:42

And then there was discussion of what kind of

1:25:45

people they are there,

1:25:46

what breed of people live in Donbas, and

1:25:49

what breed of people live in Irkutsk Region,

1:25:52

where, excuse me, the situation with this timber

1:25:55

logging is, to put it mildly,

1:25:58

far worse than in the Carpathians. But to Putin,

1:26:01

what is happening in Irkutsk Region

1:26:03

simply does not matter at all.

1:26:04

You understand? But about the Carpathians, of course, he has to

1:26:07

say something. Let's just watch the video

1:26:09

from our headquarters team, which captured the scale

1:26:12

of the logging and the export of this very

1:26:15

round timber to China in Irkutsk Region. In general, there

1:26:17

we simply have a catastrophe, both in Siberia

1:26:20

and in the Far East, with logging—mass

1:26:22

deforestation. I mean, forests can be logged,

1:26:24

it is a renewable resource, but

1:26:27

when it is cut down so indiscriminately, good

1:26:29

forest does not grow back in that place. And what

1:26:31

is happening in Russia is obviously this kind of

1:26:33

barbaric, criminal logging. But the Carpathians

1:26:37

concern him, while this does not concern him at all.

1:27:51

[applause]

1:27:51

[music]

1:27:58

[music]

1:28:00

Because here too, there is nothing but bare ground.

1:28:03

From satellite images, it is visible from

1:28:07

space that this is clear-cut logging across the taiga.

1:28:10

This region is of no concern at all.

1:28:13

Who is going to pay attention to it? But in the

1:28:15

Carpathians—good Lord—we must think about the

1:28:18

Carpathians, this endless discussion of them.

1:28:20

of Ukraine, and of course, just endless

1:28:24

lying, and, well, of that sort somehow

1:28:29

I mean, the man was really already on

1:28:32

a hot pan, so to speak. By the way, a journalist from

1:28:35

Crimea turned out to be one of the few

1:28:37

who asked, and basically

1:28:39

the right question, though it even seemed to me

1:28:41

a bit loaded. She asked him about those

1:28:43

very same text-message fundraisers for sick

1:28:47

children that we covered quite actively

1:28:48

in our latest, quite

1:28:50

popular investigation into

1:28:52

the astonishing romantic union of a state

1:28:54

banker

1:28:55

Kostin and state TV host Asker-zade, and she

1:28:59

asked him: "Please tell us, Vladimir

1:29:00

Vladimirovich, how much longer are we going to keep collecting

1:29:04

money by text message for children's treatment, or

1:29:07

is it really impossible to simply take and

1:29:09

just treat them at the state's expense? We

1:29:12

really do have enough money."

1:29:14

And in response, Putin launched into just

1:29:16

a gigantic rant about demographics

1:29:19

of absolutely enormous proportions.

1:29:20

I just want to play this for you, because

1:29:24

you need to see how a person

1:29:25

dodges a question. But I'll just

1:29:28

play a shortened bit, because it's simply

1:29:29

unbearable to watch the whole long rant, and the rant is there so that

1:29:32

everyone gets tired of it. A traditional trick:

1:29:34

he gets asked a sharp question and then

1:29:36

starts talking about something else

1:29:37

for a very, very, very long time, until maybe everyone

1:29:39

has forgotten what the question was, after which he

1:29:41

comes back to it

1:29:43

but doesn't actually answer anything, and that's it. He answered:

1:29:44

Let's watch. It concerns sick children.

1:29:48

I belong to that part of Russia

1:29:51

that, in the mornings, along with everyone else, sends text messages

1:29:53

to raise money for treatment

1:29:55

for sick children, because it's impossible

1:29:57

to watch those TV reports

1:30:00

they tear your soul and heart apart; it's impossible

1:30:02

to live and breathe after that. Please tell me,

1:30:04

is it possible to make it so that

1:30:07

Russian children are treated or

1:30:09

rehabilitated free of charge, without any

1:30:11

conditions at all? Thank you. You know,

1:30:20

first of all, in our country—first of all, we have

1:30:23

free healthcare, just like

1:30:26

education. There are, there are segments

1:30:30

where

1:30:30

this work is handled by private medicine,

1:30:35

but overall, that's why we speak about

1:30:38

the need for substantial changes in

1:30:43

primary healthcare. Overall,

1:30:46

people should receive medical care

1:30:48

free of charge. This applies to everyone, including

1:30:50

children—children first and foremost. In the overwhelming

1:30:54

majority of cases, that is exactly what happens.

1:30:56

By the way, as I've already said, there has been significant

1:30:58

progress.

1:30:58

You focus on negativity, but this is, this is one

1:31:01

way of solving it, just as

1:31:03

very serious demographic problems are tied into your question.

1:31:05

Better to skip ahead.

1:31:08

And then look at what he came up with, I'm telling you.

1:31:10

We have two major factors in

1:31:13

demographics—that's what I want to say. But we have

1:31:17

11... among citizens... 43...

1:31:20

a miscalculation, and in 1999, when

1:31:22

there was almost war, this puts before us

1:31:24

a challenge: every 20 years, the generation born in those

1:31:29

years, smaller in number,

1:31:31

enters adulthood,

1:31:32

childbearing age, productive age. So we

1:31:34

have fewer people—Russians, after all, both

1:31:36

men and women—but women cannot

1:31:37

give birth on their own.

1:31:38

So therefore only... and we have

1:31:40

the number of men exceeds the number of women...

1:31:42

...has decreased by four and a half

1:31:43

million people. That's an absolute fact.

1:31:45

And we simply need to make sure

1:31:47

that the situation improves through

1:31:49

third births. As for

1:31:51

charitable activity and what

1:31:54

is done on our leading TV channels

1:31:58

through appeals calling for help for

1:32:00

specific children—well, this is, after all,

1:32:03

these appeals and the programs on

1:32:07

this subject.

1:32:10

They cannot be banned. Even if help to one

1:32:13

or two children

1:32:14

is also important—after all, if we save

1:32:16

even the life of one person, that's already

1:32:17

wonderful. The Lord will, so to speak, take note of you

1:32:21

when you stand before Him, and that will already be

1:32:23

a good thing. But, but in the bigger picture they

1:32:26

of course... overall, what is needed is

1:32:29

to improve the work of medicine for children and

1:32:31

bring it to a higher level.

1:32:33

That's true. So what did he answer? What did he

1:32:37

answer? They asked you, man, about those

1:32:40

text-message fundraisers—600,000 rubles, 1 million

1:32:43

rubles, 1.5 million rubles

1:32:44

ridiculous sums. Couldn't you take from those

1:32:48

trillions we allocate for God knows

1:32:50

what, just pinch off a tiny fraction

1:32:54

and finally put an end to this shameful situation in which

1:32:56

a little child is missing 600,000

1:32:59

rubles in order to live? Does our

1:33:02

country have enough budget money

1:33:04

to give all these unfortunate

1:33:06

little kids and all their unfortunate

1:33:09

parents the money and provide

1:33:10

proper operations? We could even send them abroad

1:33:13

for treatment—do we have the money? Yes, we do.

1:33:14

And instead: a little bit about demographics, the demographic

1:33:17

pit, that's all. I mean, no, we can't...

1:33:20

Putin answers: yes, we cannot ban

1:33:22

such programs. But allocate 600,000 rubles

1:33:24

from the budget? That is the question he does not want

1:33:27

to answer, and he simply

1:33:28

just endlessly dodges questions, or rather

1:33:32

there is endless lying. The situation with, of course,

1:33:34

Golunov (Ivan Golunov, the Russian investigative journalist) was just some kind of

1:33:36

spectacle. You remember the case—every journalist

1:33:38

Ivan and Golunov, who had drugs planted on him

1:33:40

Drugs were planted. Fortunately,

1:33:44

thanks to the public outrage over the situation,

1:33:47

it became clear, it was established, that the drugs had been planted

1:33:50

by police officers.

1:33:51

It also emerged that those involved in this included

1:33:54

high-ranking FSB officers (Russia’s Federal Security Service), and we

1:33:57

did an investigation into one of

1:33:59

them. These FSB officers are enormously

1:34:01

wealthy, and it is completely unclear where

1:34:04

their money came from. By the way, the two

1:34:07

main figures in the case, whom

1:34:09

everyone blamed, and whom we also blame for

1:34:11

planting

1:34:14

drugs on Golunov, are the head of the FSB in

1:34:17

Moscow and his closest aide, Medoev.

1:34:20

We investigated them, and

1:34:21

they have an unimaginable amount of money. They are

1:34:24

obviously corrupt, and right under their

1:34:27

nose, on their own turf, shootings are taking place.

1:34:29

Is there a direct connection here? A direct

1:34:32

connection

1:34:33

obviously exists. And these people—Medoev was identified

1:34:38

within the FSB—but he was not dismissed from the FSB; he was removed

1:34:41

from the central administrative

1:34:43

apparatus and transferred as an attached

1:34:45

officer, I think, to Gazprom, you understand.

1:34:47

That was the punishment: instead of being caught

1:34:50

as a corrupt FSB operative

1:34:53

who plants drugs on people,

1:34:54

you get transferred to Gazprom. That is the kind of

1:34:57

punishment he received. And so, in fact,

1:34:59

Golunov spent several months

1:35:02

filing complaints saying that if drugs were planted on me

1:35:04

by police officers, couldn’t

1:35:06

a criminal case be opened against those police officers?

1:35:07

He was told no, it could not. Those police officers

1:35:11

were going to court demanding reinstatement to

1:35:14

their jobs, and everyone knew there were no

1:35:16

criminal cases against them. But Putin

1:35:18

speaks at a press conference and says

1:35:19

that there are criminal cases. Let’s listen.

1:35:21

It was done on the spot, but you did not

1:35:23

comment on it.

1:35:24

During the Direct Line (Putin’s annual televised call-in show), you called this case, this

1:35:28

situation with Golunov, lawlessness. We said

1:35:31

that those responsible had to be found. Since then,

1:35:34

those responsible have not been found.

1:35:38

The case materials have been classified, and

1:35:41

the investigation is being conducted against

1:35:42

unidentified persons. A decision was made

1:35:45

to classify it. This decision was made because

1:35:47

during the investigation

1:35:50

issues arise related to

1:35:51

the organization of operational-search

1:35:53

activities, and that

1:35:55

information is considered restricted.

1:35:58

But that does not mean the proceedings are not

1:36:01

supposed to proceed properly. I want to

1:36:03

inform you that

1:36:05

five people have been suspended from duty,

1:36:07

from the relevant Interior Ministry services,

1:36:11

they have all been dismissed from the bodies of the

1:36:13

Ministry of Internal Affairs, and criminal cases have been opened

1:36:16

against all of them.

1:36:19

The investigation is being conducted

1:36:21

by the Investigative Committee.

1:36:24

Naturally, everyone was outraged, because

1:36:27

well, fine, let’s not even

1:36:28

talk about the FSB guys who

1:36:30

organized this hit, all of it at the

1:36:33

request of the funeral mafia.

1:36:34

But as for the police officers—they had only just

1:36:36

been going around demanding reinstatement, and

1:36:38

there were no criminal cases. And Golunov himself

1:36:40

immediately wrote on his Telegram channel

1:36:43

—let’s take a look—that in fact

1:36:45

he had no information whatsoever that

1:36:48

there was any criminal case. More than that,

1:36:51

he keeps writing to the Investigative Committee,

1:36:52

and they tell him there are absolutely no

1:36:55

grounds for opening criminal cases.

1:36:57

What is this? We simply immediately

1:36:59

called Mediazona’s editor-in-chief,

1:37:01

Sergei Smirnov, who follows this and other cases

1:37:03

extremely closely,

1:37:05

and, well,

1:37:06

surely Smirnov would know if there were

1:37:10

any information at all that

1:37:12

a criminal case had been opened against the police officers.

1:37:15

What does he tell us? Let’s watch.

1:37:16

Sergei Smirnov.

1:37:18

Hi everyone, this is Sergei Smirnov. So, Putin

1:37:21

has just announced that these

1:37:24

police officers, it turns out, have criminal

1:37:26

cases against them. In fact, absolutely

1:37:28

nothing at all was known about this, and judging by

1:37:30

their behavior, they were perfectly calmly

1:37:32

looking for jobs, they were going to court

1:37:35

demanding that their dismissal be overturned. Of course,

1:37:39

if there had been cases, they themselves would have known.

1:37:41

So I think this is some kind of

1:37:43

completely new information. It seems to me

1:37:46

there are no cases, but now we’ll see

1:37:48

whether they appear as a result of the press conference.

1:37:52

So, basically, that was it: people went on

1:37:54

saying there were no criminal cases, and immediately after

1:37:56

came the news that, it turns out, criminal

1:37:58

cases do exist—they were opened, supposedly, yesterday.

1:38:01

They waited 190 days, and the criminal cases

1:38:05

were allegedly opened yesterday. Very amusing. On

1:38:07

this subject, the former editor-in-chief of Meduza

1:38:12

or Meduza director Krasilshchik wrote

1:38:15

that this is such an amazing

1:38:17

time paradox: it required minus

1:38:20

one day, because Putin announced the opening of

1:38:22

criminal cases today,

1:38:24

but they were opened yesterday. This really is the kind of

1:38:27

paradox possible only in Russia.

1:38:29

It is just endless lying. There were no

1:38:32

criminal cases, but someone there

1:38:33

said they would open criminal cases. And the FSB

1:38:36

guys who organized all of this—well,

1:38:39

how could they possibly open criminal

1:38:41

cases against the very people they told

1:38:43

to go and plant the drugs? They were let off the hook,

1:38:46

and then Putin blurted it out at the

1:38:47

press conference, and criminal cases were opened.

1:38:49

So, that's how all of this is structured.

1:38:52

By the way, this has just come in:

1:38:54

a Reuters report citing sources.

1:38:56

According to it, the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service) knew about the planned

1:39:00

attack, but did not know where it would take place.

1:39:03

Reuters reports this, citing sources

1:39:05

close to the FSB, and the perpetrators likely

1:39:07

planned the attack so that it would

1:39:09

coincide with Putin’s speech

1:39:10

dedicated to Security Services Workers’ Day

1:39:13

(a professional holiday for Russian security service personnel).

1:39:15

If that’s true, then why didn’t they prevent it?

1:39:19

But can we believe it? My own

1:39:24

feeling is that this is

1:39:26

a complete lie, just a complete lie.

1:39:29

I mean, if it isn’t a lie,

1:39:32

then it’s incompetence. That is, if

1:39:34

they knew about it, that means this was not

1:39:37

a lone attacker; it was some kind of group

1:39:39

of assailants, and some source within that

1:39:42

group of attackers must have passed something on.

1:39:44

What, did someone call and say, “There will be, there will be

1:39:46

terror attacks,” and then hang up? Unlikely. If

1:39:49

they knew anything, they knew something about the

1:39:51

nature of it or some other details. But now that

1:39:54

this person has been killed, that’s it—they can lie about

1:39:58

absolutely anything. And now MJ asks me:

1:40:00

“Hello, Alexei, what do you think—

1:40:02

what could be the reason for the shooting at the FSB?”

1:40:05

Thank you. Well, listen, it could be anything.

1:40:08

It could simply be some madman who

1:40:10

snapped. But if some madman snapped,

1:40:12

then the assault rifle, the preparation, a plan like that—

1:40:15

that still seems unlikely.

1:40:16

It could be some kind of religious

1:40:18

extremist. It could be anyone.

1:40:19

Look,

1:40:21

Kadyrov (Ramzan Kadyrov, head of Chechnya) has a whole army of people who are either

1:40:23

terrorists or police officers—

1:40:26

it’s all completely mixed together, I mean some kind of

1:40:29

“bearded division” there that stages

1:40:32

mass prayers and kills

1:40:35

Chechens all the time who

1:40:38

are guilty of nothing. You can find a million

1:40:40

stories about this. If you have

1:40:42

Chechen acquaintances, just ask them.

1:40:44

It’s like a government experiment.

1:40:45

“Do you know of cases where they simply

1:40:47

grab some guys and hold them until

1:40:49

their beards grow out, and then

1:40:51

kill them, pass them off as terrorists, and that’s it?”

1:40:53

Everyone will say: yes, I know people like that. Everyone knows that this

1:40:56

happens here, not only in Chechnya

1:40:57

and the North Caucasus—everyone knows about it.

1:41:00

So it could be—maybe some kind of

1:41:02

I don’t know—Islamist extremist, it could

1:41:05

be some disillusioned person from

1:41:06

there—yes, it could be anyone. But will we learn

1:41:09

any truth? Unlikely.

1:41:12

It’s just that our empirical experience tells us

1:41:14

that the FSB lies constantly. But if they

1:41:18

lied about the entire terrorist attack in Magnitogorsk

1:41:21

where dozens of people died, if they

1:41:24

are now forcing all media outlets in Russia

1:41:26

to call gas explosions “pops” or “bangs”

1:41:29

so it doesn’t look so awful in headlines,

1:41:32

I mean, the level of lying is simply such

1:41:34

that they can lie about absolutely anything. And now,

1:41:37

as we wrap up our program, which has already

1:41:39

run far too long—really, it’s enough to make you cry—

1:41:42

given its emergency nature, because of

1:41:44

the urgent nature of the news, I’ve already

1:41:46

gone way over time—Sailor Popeye asks:

1:41:47

“Alexei, please comment

1:41:50

on the situation regarding the question

1:41:52

put to Putin about his daughters.”

1:41:53

What happened there at the

1:41:56

press conference with that question—on the

1:41:58

one hand, it is an example that there are still

1:42:00

still

1:42:02

normal journalists in Russia, and Farida Rustamova,

1:42:06

who asked that question,

1:42:08

really did a great job.

1:42:09

She is a very good person and a very good

1:42:11

journalist, because she did not ask

1:42:13

some vague question. You know, at Putin’s

1:42:16

press conferences, unlike Sobyanin’s (Sergei Sobyanin, Moscow’s mayor),

1:42:18

by the way, they have this thing where

1:42:21

they prepare supposedly sharp questions, and they

1:42:24

are usually asked in the way that, say, Katya

1:42:25

Vinokurova asks them: in such a way

1:42:27

that within that one question there are

1:42:28

137 other questions, and it stretches on for

1:42:31

several minutes, and it is very convenient for Putin

1:42:33

to pick some part of that question and

1:42:35

not answer everything else. But here

1:42:37

the question was asked completely clearly and directly, and the answer

1:42:41

was simply—

1:42:43

well, not just evasive in the usual way, but

1:42:46

actually frightening, because the man

1:42:49

simply disowned his daughters. Everyone

1:42:52

knows about Putin’s daughters.

1:42:55

Everyone knows that they are involved

1:42:58

at least the younger one, to a greater

1:42:59

extent, and the elder one to a lesser extent—in some

1:43:02

very strange, very large-scale

1:43:04

business that is financed by all the

1:43:05

state corporations.

1:43:06

But Putin consistently does not

1:43:10

confirm that they are his daughters, even though

1:43:12

everyone obviously knows it. And this time

1:43:15

he even referred to them simply as “these women,”

1:43:17

and in effect—listen, you know, if

1:43:20

you asked me, “Alexei, did your daughter

1:43:26

go to Stanford? What do you say to that?”

1:43:28

I would say that my daughter, Dasha Navalnaya,

1:43:31

studied at a Moscow school,

1:43:33

applied to several universities there,

1:43:35

got into one of the best universities,

1:43:37

is studying there now, and I am very

1:43:40

proud of that, because it seems I proved myself

1:43:42

to be a good parent.

1:43:43

I want her to get an education, and in the Beautiful

1:43:45

Russia of the Future

1:43:46

we will, in general, be sending thousands of our students

1:43:48

abroad.

1:43:49

That is an answer about your daughter. But when you

1:43:52

asked me about this—whether it is true that your

1:43:55

My daughter went to Stanford, and I talked about it, and...

1:43:57

Yes, you asked me about some woman.

1:44:00

who once went there.

1:44:02

The transportation system in Russia in general

1:44:04

works fairly well, though of course it still needs to be, uh...

1:44:07

improved and better connected. Of course, right now we're

1:44:09

being seriously hindered by what's happening in Ukraine,

1:44:11

what is happening there, what has happened.

1:44:13

An anti-corruption coup took place, but in general we

1:44:16

will continue improving the transportation

1:44:18

system. That's not what you asked about.

1:44:20

Are you an idiot or what? What are you even saying? But that is exactly

1:44:23

what happened at Putin's

1:44:25

press conference. Let's watch it. It's two minutes

1:44:27

44 seconds long,

1:44:28

but every second of it is worth watching because

1:44:31

it perfectly shows us

1:44:33

that we will never hear

1:44:36

a single word of truth from these people, because they

1:44:39

lie even in situations where there seems to be absolutely

1:44:42

no need at all

1:44:43

to lie, because by doing so you are effectively

1:44:44

disowning your own children.

1:44:46

Putin, four years ago,

1:44:48

when my colleagues asked you about

1:44:51

your relationship to your younger daughter, Yekaterina

1:44:53

Tikhonova, you said, quote, that your children

1:44:56

are not involved in business or politics and generally

1:44:58

do not meddle in anything. But since then, the situation

1:45:00

has changed, at the very least. The company Innopraktika,

1:45:03

whose director is

1:45:05

Katerina Tikhonova and whose founder

1:45:08

is a state-funded budgetary

1:45:09

institution, MSU (Moscow State University), earned last year

1:45:11

earned

1:45:12

half a billion rubles. The company Nomenko, in which

1:45:17

your elder daughter

1:45:19

Maria Vorontsova has a stake, is using money from the company

1:45:23

SOGAZ to build one of the largest clinics

1:45:25

now in the Leningrad Region. In this, these

1:45:30

two women are being helped in business by your

1:45:32

old friends and by officials and state companies. We

1:45:35

can see, we can see that these women

1:45:37

have started appearing very often on

1:45:38

television; everyone already knows their names

1:45:41

and what they look like. It's an open secret.

1:45:43

So my question is: please tell us,

1:45:46

when will you acknowledge that they are your children?

1:45:48

Will they never become public figures, open

1:45:51

to society, like the children of other world

1:45:53

leaders? You just spoke about

1:45:56

issues related to business,

1:46:00

you mentioned

1:46:02

one woman, then a second one, but you didn't

1:46:05

tell the whole story, apparently. Well then, zero loans...

1:46:08

their personal stake there... the volume... this is

1:46:09

business; otherwise you simply can never understand it.

1:46:10

Or the facts have not been sufficiently established here.

1:46:12

Look into it in more detail and you'll understand what is going on there.

1:46:14

Where someone went... so, on that note our...

1:46:16

...this helps. Innopraktika is a simple practice,

1:46:18

and this initiative has long been supported by the rector

1:46:21

of the university, as far as is known.

1:46:22

, since... a typo... advice...

1:46:24

It is connected with an absolutely

1:46:27

lawful and proper desire on our part

1:46:29

to combine the capabilities

1:46:31

of our science and education with the real

1:46:32

needs

1:46:33

of manufacturers, and in this way the domestic

1:46:36

economy often ends up buying from

1:46:37

abroad, whether from Britain or elsewhere.

1:46:39

This brings us back to the very issue of linking them together.

1:46:41

We simply can generate this ourselves, which means

1:46:43

our enterprises have to...

1:46:44

...essentially the opposite, and...

1:46:46

that's the whole point of it.

1:46:48

The creation, conversely, as applied to

1:46:49

the main thing... Write this down. Is it over? — No.

1:46:52

For some reason, it's about training people

1:46:54

to create innovations that did not previously exist.

1:46:55

known.

1:46:55

For us, it's... some kind of miracle of something.

1:46:57

So, like that... there's a button down below.

1:46:59

Education... ours... press it right there.

1:47:00

Frankly, I don't understand, but as for its success...

1:47:02

For them to achieve it, we need to then

1:47:03

...close it off; the indicator goes off...

1:47:05

As for medicine there, in my opinion they have

1:47:07

as of today, everything amounts to 1

1:47:10

500... getting through this night is interesting.

1:47:11

The direction in Zermatt... from above... applicable...

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Technology is developing rapidly; keep in mind that we

1:47:14

have... I love... among testing... This is my

1:47:16

favorite. Everything connected with

1:47:20

reducing mortality from external and

1:47:22

internal factors, everything connected with

1:47:24

the development of medicine, is one of the

1:47:26

priorities of the Russian Federation. I think

1:47:29

this work should only be

1:47:30

welcomed. It's a magnificent

1:47:34

answer—simply an amazing answer. When all you need to do is just

1:47:37

Someday, I don't know, there will be compiled

1:47:41

an encyclopedia of lies and hypocrisy,

1:47:43

and this should occupy a truly worthy

1:47:45

place in it. They ask you: your daughter,

1:47:50

Katerina Tikhonova—everyone knows she is your

1:47:53

daughter, and this is obviously confirmed by the fact

1:47:55

that she suddenly became a superstar scientist; all sorts of

1:47:58

super-oligarchs

1:48:00

and state figures joined the board of trustees;

1:48:02

she was allocated billions, tens

1:48:04

of billions, to build something or other there.

1:48:06

When will you finally admit that she is your daughter?

1:48:09

And in response he starts talking about Innopraktika,

1:48:11

about how we buy things in Great Britain.

1:48:13

They should be buying in Great Britain, yes?

1:48:16

What kind of answer is that? But this is the country, it

1:48:19

uses budget money.

1:48:21

Maybe for Putin, but for any

1:48:25

actually normal person, this is

1:48:27

not the most comfortable situation, when everyone

1:48:29

starts discussing your—I didn't know—

1:48:30

relatives, your children. But they are not

1:48:32

to blame. I mean, after all, now everyone is discussing my

1:48:35

daughter.

1:48:38

She wasn't involved in this kind of politics, she

1:48:40

didn't take part in any elections, well...

1:48:42

That’s just how her circumstances and her fate turned out.

1:48:46

Her father is a politician, and so in

1:48:49

any case, you carry that burden

1:48:51

of public politics: people watch you, they look at

1:48:54

what you do and where you get your

1:48:55

money from. And in this situation, a person whose

1:48:58

father has been the country’s president for 20 years gets married

1:49:03

to a dollar billionaire—or rather, she

1:49:05

marries Kirill Shamalov, who

1:49:07

later becomes

1:49:08

a dollar billionaire. So

1:49:11

that means his daughter, one of the president’s daughters,

1:49:13

under family law, also

1:49:16

becomes a dollar billionaire. She is running

1:49:19

some kind of super-mega-grandiose project.

1:49:21

Is she your daughter or not? What exactly is going on there?

1:49:24

Yes, you know, we should

1:49:27

develop too, in the United Kingdom as well,

1:49:28

we buy various things. No, you don’t need

1:49:31

to buy into that—it’s simply lies, endless

1:49:35

just endless lies. If he lies to you

1:49:38

about this, do you think we will ever find out

1:49:40

the real truth about the

1:49:41

terrorist attacks that happened? The latest report

1:49:44

from the Baza news channel says that in major

1:49:47

cities across Russia

1:49:48

special security measures were introduced in the buildings of local FSB (Federal Security Service) and MVD (Interior Ministry) offices.

1:49:51

Special security measures were in place.

1:49:53

Entry to the buildings was allowed only with a password. Here

1:49:56

there was a question during the broadcast: what

1:49:59

will the consequences be? Well, these are the kinds of

1:50:00

consequences of that sort that there will be.

1:50:03

Do you understand? That is, of course,

1:50:06

starting tomorrow, there will be a new round

1:50:09

of discussion about the need to fight more against

1:50:12

extremists. And “extremists”

1:50:14

are those who sit on the internet, those who

1:50:16

publish news, those who on social media

1:50:18

spread something, those who go out to

1:50:21

rallies, those who demand their participation in

1:50:24

elections—they are the extremists. It’s not the people who actually carried this out that

1:50:25

they’ll start fighting again. And on top of that, they’ve introduced

1:50:28

passwords for entering buildings. I very much hope

1:50:30

that the password will be: “Here is one woman and

1:50:33

here is another woman,” as Putin told us, or

1:50:35

something like that. By the way, there were

1:50:38

a lot of questions about why we are not announcing

1:50:40

the results of our contest, which we announced

1:50:43

about tracking the movements of Kostin’s yacht and the yacht

1:50:46

and plane of Kostin and Asker-zade. It’s not because

1:50:48

we forgot or decided to withhold the prizes, but because

1:50:50

there are certain technical

1:50:52

details there—problems that I

1:50:54

won’t talk about because

1:50:56

right now there is this kind of

1:50:57

competition going on, in a certain sense: this whole

1:50:59

band of crooks is hiding their

1:51:02

planes and yachts from us, specifically the ones already

1:51:04

identified, and we are trying to find them. But sooner

1:51:07

or later, of course, we will find them, and I

1:51:09

am sure that

1:51:11

I will talk about it on our program.

1:51:14

Thank you very much to everyone who watched our

1:51:17

broadcast. Let me remind you once again that in central

1:51:19

Moscow, a terrorist attack took place today. Once again,

1:51:21

I want to express my condolences to the families

1:51:23

of those who were killed and those who were injured.

1:51:26

These are terrible things, and I very much hope that

1:51:28

sooner or later the people of Russia will learn

1:51:32

the truth about what happened today in

1:51:33

central Moscow, and about all the other terrorist attacks

1:51:36

that have taken place recently in

1:51:37

Russia. Thank you very much, everyone. Good luck, and see you

1:51:39

this Thursday.

1:51:40

Wait, hold on—my last,

1:51:43

the next one—

1:51:44

this isn’t my pre-New Year broadcast after all, so

1:51:47

I’ll be wishing you a Happy New Year

1:51:48

on the next program. Sorry about that.

1:51:50

That’s how it goes—with this wandering schedule of broadcasts, I

1:51:52

got confused.

1:51:52

See you this Thursday.

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