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Hello everyone. It's 8:00 p.m. in Moscow, which means

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that if today is Thursday—and today is Thursday—then

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we are live with the program *Russia of the Future*. In

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the studio, it's me, Alexei Navalny, or the "coffee

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liberal," as the Federal News Agency called me,

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Prigozhin's news agency run by the restaurateur

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—yes, the very same "Putin's chef". I'm glad that

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Putin's chef continues to keep an eye on my

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work. We'll keep going and do everything we can so

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that people like him stay worried about

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what exactly we're doing. Please write to me

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on Twitter with your question and the

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hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture, and I will

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try to answer those questions as we go

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through the program.

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So, here's the situation. The situation is as follows:

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someone comes to another city

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to perform, and the police and the authorities of that city

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are unhappy. They put pressure on

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the venues, all the venues refuse, and as a

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result, the person whom people want

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to hear speak or perform—this alleged

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disturber of the public peace—well, they

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gather somewhere, and the person still

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comes out to perform, and then the police

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detain him. What is this? Well, by now

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the image, the spoiler, has already appeared—but no,

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it's the wrong one. You'll tell me: well,

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Alexei, obviously you're describing

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your standard, typical trip to a

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regional city: the venues

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turn you down, you go out into the street,

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stand up to the police—but no,

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no, no, we're not talking about politics right now.

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We're not talking about Alexei Navalny. We're

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talking about rap. You may be surprised, my friends,

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but we're talking about rap. We're talking about rapper

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Husky, who at this very moment

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is in an almost identical situation

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to the one I so often find myself in. It's now 8:00

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p.m., then 9:00 p.m., and at 11:00 p.m.

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a judge will come out and say whether

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this rapper, Husky, should spend the next 15

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days in a cell, or whether

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he will be released. They won't let him hold concerts,

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because apparently

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some deputies got upset and angry about rapper Husky,

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some lawmakers who wrote letters everywhere.

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If a deputy from United Russia (the ruling party) writes letters,

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then the police have to

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do something too. So when he arrived in

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Krasnodar, our wonderful Kuban region,

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where no laws seem to exist at all, all

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the clubs first refused him. In Volgograd

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he was also refused permission to perform; the shows were

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canceled. When people came to the concert,

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he came out to them, and someone said, well,

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here, climb onto my car, and from there

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—there were about 40 people gathered—you've got to do something.

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So he came out and climbed onto the car, and there,

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naturally, it was also a hundred-percent copy of

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what happens when I travel to southern Russia:

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some Cossacks (state-aligned paramilitary/traditionalist groups), some people

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calling themselves Cossacks, some kind of

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vigilantes—basically some strange

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people who can grab anyone they want,

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and nothing will happen to them. They

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dragged him off the car.

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They detained him. As I understand it, there are now

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three administrative cases against him, and one is for

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resisting the police—Article 19.3,

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my favorite one; I've done time under it many times. And then

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there's also refusal to undergo

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a medical examination,

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meaning they assume he was either drunk or

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on drugs. And again, Article 20.2.2:

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the unlawful organization of a mass

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gathering of citizens in public places.

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That's exactly the article under which I served my last

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20-day and 30-day jail terms. And probably many people

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think that right now I want

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to gloat over rapper Husky,

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because, let's be honest, the man has

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views that are, well, not especially democratic,

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and at one point

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he supported that kind of

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Putin-style aggressive policy; in particular,

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he went to Donbas (the war-torn region in eastern Ukraine). He even recorded

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a song with Motorola, or perhaps to lyrics by

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Motorola

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—that field commander from

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Donbas—and so

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he spoke up for all that quite actively, and

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quite aggressively attacked those

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who were against Motorola. In particular,

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two years ago, in an interview with

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*The Village*, he said: some bastards on

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Patriarch's Ponds (a fashionable central Moscow neighborhood) think they have the right

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to speak about him—that is, about Motorola—

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negatively. Maybe, of course, they do

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have that right, since we're all free

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people, but I would gladly take that right away from them

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once and for all.

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That's what rapper Husky said two years ago.

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And now he has found himself in a situation

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where some unclear, unaccountable people think

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that they too can, just like that, once and

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for all, take away from him

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the right to perform, to speak at all, to do

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anything. But I absolutely do not want

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to gloat in this situation. I can

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say that I am, of course, unquestionably in this

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situation on his side. In fact,

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it's not even just his side—it's the side

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of all normal people. He says

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some things—strange things, good or

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bad things; he says good things too, by the way.

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For example, Maria Motuznaya from Altai—you

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know, the young woman who became widely

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known because criminal charges were brought against her

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over posts on

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VKontakte. He supported her during

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that case. But in any event, this is simply a lesson

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to everyone: we must stand up for freedom

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always, regardless of what

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rapper Husky says. And if rapper Husky

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even wants to climb onto a car there in order to

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to shout there, "Putin is great, we're for Putin"

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someone is messing around with this machine, the machine has become

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dragging him around means he is right, because he

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has every right to perform with

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concerts, he has every right to make

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his own statements, he has every right

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to release his music videos and everything else. I

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really hope that after all this

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mess, he gets out

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and honestly, I'll say that two years ago I was wrong

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when I said that some

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people from Patriarch's Ponds (a well-known central Moscow neighborhood) — well, he meant that

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we are supposedly serious people, while those are some kind of

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hipsters and "liberasts" (a derogatory slang term for liberals) hanging around

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at Patriarch's Ponds, so he needs to be shut up

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because now they want, they

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they want to shut everyone up altogether

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absolutely everyone, and now rapper Husky

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specifically — deputy Elena Drapeko has actually

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said something just wonderful. Here's the quote:

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"Before opening his mouth, a rapper should

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think about what he is calling for, and what

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will happen." So you see, here

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in fact, Husky's quotes from

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two years ago and those of the deputy

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of the State Duma, Drapeko, right

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now, are actually quite similar. And we must understand very clearly

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that this government consists of people

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who basically want to ban everything

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or rather, it's not just that they want to ban things — in the course of

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their work, they simply cannot

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stop banning everything. That is their

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job. They are our bosses

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over us, so they sit there, they monitor

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like some kind of evil teacher, and the task

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of that evil teacher is simply to make sure these

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children sit still, and when he notices

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someone moving, he needs to take a ruler

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and walk over — whack, on the head. And it doesn't matter whether you're

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rapper Husky, or wearing a Motorola A1000 with rhinestones

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at Patriarch's Ponds, or whoever else you are. And just

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today, another deputy, Vitaly

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Milonov, said that there should be a

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comprehensive review of the activities of

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rapper Eldzhey. And then, quote:

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"A bomber jacket, a thick knitted cap,

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damn, that's again a dangerous thing — a thick

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knitted cap and unusual jeans,

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a complete absence of pupils — the overall

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picture undoubtedly looks threatening."

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Do you understand? A State Duma deputy, with a salary of

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450,000 rubles (about 4,900 USD) a month, looked us all over and said:

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"I don't like your thick knitted

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cap, and in general those unusual

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jeans — all of it looks threatening,

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so take off your jeans and your thick

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knitted cap, rapper." They simply cannot

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help banning things. They have nothing else to do in life

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— these deputies. To them, we are not

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people; we're a flock of sheep, or a herd,

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a group of children

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children who need to be constantly

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watched, and constantly restricted in something

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and pushed, forced to move

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somewhere

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They will do nothing else. I

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have said this many times on my

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program, and I'll repeat it again:

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for the entire remainder of Putin's term, however

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long he stays there — one year or ten years, that

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already depends on us — but for most of that time

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it will be about them

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constantly

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restricting us in one way or another and looking for

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some kind of problem with your thick knitted

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cap, or with some unusual

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jeans, or with your pupils — something will always be

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wrong. And it doesn't matter if someone thinks

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that certain cultural figures — well,

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they spoke out in support of Putin, or

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went to the DPR (self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic), or something else — so they'll be

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left alone. No, they won't be left alone

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ever. And here's a wonderful example:

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Yegor Kreed, whose producer is

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the singer Timati — and it would be hard to find anyone in show business

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more loyal

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than that kind of representative of show business

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He's already fawned over Putin and

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Kadyrov, kissed up to all of them, loves them so much,

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and still Yegor Kreed is not allowed

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to perform in Makhachkala. Why? Because apparently it needs to be

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banned. And then they said, well somehow

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he has unusual jeans — there's no place

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in Makhachkala for people in unusual jeans

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and in general there are some people living there in

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Dagestan who wanted to go to a nightclub

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and

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well, listen to calm, harmless Yegor Kreed — what

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is so terrible about that?

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But no, you can't, you're not allowed

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We've decided for you — you must not do that

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But of course, the argument

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against Husky will be something like this. And

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I'm sure that tomorrow

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some Kremlin media outlet

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or one of those federal news programs

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will immediately write that Navalny

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spoke on his program and once again, apparently,

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defended drug addicts and drug dealers, because

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rapper Husky supposedly promotes

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drugs, and Navalny is defending rapper

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Husky

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Well, here's what needs to be said

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Let's actually watch 18

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seconds

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of the banned video by rapper Husky, which

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is called "Today's Business" on YouTube, and

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actually — believe it or not —

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from Husky's banned clip, 18 seconds, as I understand it,

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which were the main

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reason why it was banned

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This is, after all, a program about banned

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things. Let's watch. Do I like

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what is shown there? Well, how should I put it — it's

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life. I certainly don't like it when

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people take drugs. I am against

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people taking drugs. Well, that's

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exactly what the song is about — it's about poor people

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people who use drugs

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because they live in poverty, they feel bad, and

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everything is terrible overall. The state's task in

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the area of drug policy is to make sure that

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as few people as possible

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use drugs, and that this way

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fewer teenagers

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would use drugs, because

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drug addiction is now a problem

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of the poor, mainly. A stereotype held by many

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in much of society, people who are far removed from

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this problem, is that, well, drugs

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are somehow something consumed by the rich

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and that it's people in nightclubs

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snorting cocaine off each other and whatever else

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with gold credit cards and all that

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lines and so on. No, it's poor young people

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who are using exactly this kind of garbage that

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they bought for 500 rubles (about $5–6)

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they stuff into a cigarette and then jump around on

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those so-called salts or whatever and then out the window

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it's horrible. So, deputies and

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Deputy Drapeko and Deputy Milonov, they

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should study the experience of a huge number of countries

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where drug addiction arrived much

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earlier than in Russia, earlier than in the USSR (the former Soviet Union), and

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try to apply some measures

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to fight drugs. There are

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some softer methods, and if what's needed there is

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tough anti-drug policy

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fine, but then support Yevgeny

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Roizman and his anti-drug policy

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but you won't support him; more than that, you

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hound him

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then why did you find in the video by

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rapper Husky? Besides, let's

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be honest: if we ban

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rappers' music videos about drugs, rapper

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— well, not only them, not just about

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drugs do they sing — but if we ban

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rappers' music videos about drugs, then we

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must ban all feature

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films

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feature films, especially from

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recent cinema. Well,

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let's remember *The Irony of Fate* (a classic Soviet New Year's film)

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I mean, the main mega-hit that every

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New Year they show us — we know this

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film by heart — and it's about how people

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got absolutely plastered, to an inhuman degree

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and got lost somewhere within the Soviet

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Union

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*Peculiarities of the National Hunt*

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*Shirley Myrli*

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these are all films where, with a kind of

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sympathy, people are shown as just

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again, excuse the expression,

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getting pig-drunk, and in

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that pig-drunk state they did

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all sorts of funny things

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all right, but if it were the same thing except

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they had gotten high instead, how would that

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be different? From that point of view, vodka

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is the same kind of drug — any addiction specialist will

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tell you it's exactly the same kind of drug. But nevertheless

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one thing is treated as some kind of

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national peculiarity

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or fishing trip — that's our Russian character

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everyone got drunk and is lying on the ground, but

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if someone poured himself something there, then for that you need to

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ban the video, jail people. Both

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are negative phenomena

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and both should be fought

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the arrest of rapper Husky will not in the slightest

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help the fight against drug addiction

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or the spread of drugs among

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teenagers, first and foremost

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on the contrary, first of all it will make all this even

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more popular. Besides, once again it

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shows us that there is basically no

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rule of law in the Russian Federation, and even more so

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in Kuban, in Krasnodar Krai (a region in southern Russia), here

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just, by the way, in Krasnodar

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Krai, I wasn't even able to

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perform in Krasnodar because not

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a single venue gave us

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the opportunity to perform. I never

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made it there during the presidential campaign

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there is no law there at all — it is simply absent

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well, there isn't much in Moscow either, but in Moscow there is

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at least some semblance of something, whereas there everything is simply

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replaced by these kinds of people

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who call themselves Cossacks (paramilitary traditionalist groups), who

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of course have never even seen a horse up close

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and have nothing whatsoever to do with rural

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life or agriculture — just some kind of

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thugs and private security guys simply sitting on

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the budget

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some of these judges, and again Prosecutor

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Chaika, the Tsapki gang — that's our whole Kuban

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our Krasnodar. And when these people

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are now trying to show all of us

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that they are, supposedly, on the

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side of legality — well, frankly, there is

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no trust whatsoever. Well, I spent a full 16 or 17

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minutes talking about rap — that's probably my

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new record, and our program

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will soon turn into a rap bulletin. So, questions

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Alien John asks me: what can you

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say about the nationalization of the

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Central Bank of the Russian Federation? Right now

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it belongs to the state, that is, it

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formally is not state property

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it is independent, but of course it is now

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part of

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the Russian Federation, part of the state

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property of the Russian Federation. What other

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questions came in?

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while they're looking for questions, I'll move on to

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the next topic. Our next topic is

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that Putin has decided to hand over the Kuril Islands

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and all of this is happening in some kind of

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very strange way, because he

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seems to be planning something and has made some

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kind of

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outrageous statement, and that's that. And it's interesting to me

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to see that even these people have fallen into agitation

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these representatives of the so-called

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from the patriotic internet, but now all

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those who usually go to bat for Putin, for

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imperial policy, are now running around the

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internet and shouting in horror, "Oh my God,

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oh my God,

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our beloved Putin is trying to give away the Kurils (the Kuril Islands), and

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what is he doing—or is he not trying to? I wonder if there

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is the same kind of behind-the-scenes maneuvering going on there.

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And as for those propagandists who

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are trying to feel out the line—how are they supposed

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to explain to us now

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that Putin is ready to hand over two of the Kuril

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Islands, that this is somehow a good idea, that it is

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the fulfillment of the international treaty of 1956,

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and now Peskov has already said—first

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he confirmed it, then denied it, and in the end

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said—not in the end, the discussion is still

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ongoing—he said there would be some kind of

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compromise that would satisfy everyone. Let's

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watch, 41 seconds.

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Over these past days, over these days, we have all

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already seen a very large number of

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various political analyses

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and speculations claiming that supposedly some kind of

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backroom bureaucratic deal on transferring the islands

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and so on has already been made. That is not the case. What will the

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sovereignty be, how will they

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be used,

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what kinds of activity will

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take place there, and so on—there are whole

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myriads of questions that will need

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to be answered. A compromise will undoubtedly

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be required; that much can already

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be said now. But it will be a compromise that will not

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run counter to, or come into conflict with,

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the national interests of either

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side.

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Well, overall it's unclear what

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is really happening here, but generally speaking

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it's obvious that these people are up to something,

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and they are doing it in exactly the same way

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as when they already made fairly major

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territorial concessions to China, remember?

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The islands on the Amur River were handed over,

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despite the fact that there was an absolutely

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unified opinion among citizens inside

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the Russian Federation that this should not

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be done. There had been fighting there, people had died there,

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and nevertheless, in that same hush-hush mode,

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they quietly worked something out, made some kind of deal,

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gave away the islands, and told stories about how

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beneficial it was for Russia,

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what great investments would come, what

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wonderful bridges we would build from one

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bank of the Amur to the other.

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Well, I was in Khabarovsk, and there's nothing there,

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nothing has been built, and nobody got any

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benefit from it. Here they clearly

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want to do the same thing. By the way,

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here's one domestic Russian example, also

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very telling so far: Ingushetia.

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Well, the people in charge there worked something

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out among themselves, in some kind of back

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room, chatted things over,

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passed some money around, and then

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presented everyone else with a fait accompli: here,

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we exchanged

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one territory for another, and people are running around

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protesting. Putin, as far as we can

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understand—and I think this would be the correct

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interpretation—because in fact he

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is in a state of foreign-policy

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isolation. Of course, he can talk to

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Venezuela and, say, some other countries,

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or with countries in the Middle East, but overall, for

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normal, developed, wealthy countries, he is

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some kind of strange,

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dangerous little guy no one can have

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any dealings with. And it is very important for him

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to break out of that and make some kind of

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asymmetric move so that everyone would

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love him again, so that at least one

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country would lift sanctions,

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start inviting him, and conduct

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dialogue with him.

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Putin wants to become a player again in

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some part of the world, because, well, essentially

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to put it plainly,

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this whole supposed return of Russia to the

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political stage exists only

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on Russian television, but

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we cannot really do anything else of that kind.

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We just can't.

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And as I understand it, he is trying

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to strike a deal with the Japanese and actually

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give them either two islands or four

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islands, somehow in installments,

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possibly in exchange for money,

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possibly

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in exchange for recognition of Crimea's status (i.e., Russian control over Crimea),

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but one way or another he would like

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to do it in the same way he handed over

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the islands to China.

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That is, they are not going to ask you and me,

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but then again, who are we that they should ask us?

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They don't even ask us about things far less important,

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about what jeans to wear or what knitted

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caps to put on—so why would they discuss the islands of the

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Kuril chain with us?

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Moreover, the Kremlin understands perfectly well that

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public opinion is absolutely against it.

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So that means public opinion simply

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must not learn anything. It has to be

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some kind of arrangement under

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which they will tell us how

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great and beneficial this is for us, how we somehow came out ahead,

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how Putin outplayed everyone again, they will tell us,

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because he fulfilled Khrushchev's

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1956 agreement, and we will learn nothing more.

23:16

In that sense, I am reminded

23:18

of a great story that was told to me by

23:19

Boris Nemtsov—one of his favorite

23:22

stories.

23:24

It's described in his book, but he told it to me

23:26

personally, and in such vivid

23:28

detail, that it really shows, well,

23:31

Russian politics and the problem of the

23:33

Kuril Islands.

23:35

Yeltsin was once together with the prime minister

23:38

of Japan.

23:40

Nemtsov had come along on the visit, I think it was

23:42

Vladivostok. Anyway, they were out somewhere on a

23:44

boat, and Yeltsin was there,

23:48

the Japanese prime minister was there too, I won't

23:50

lie, I don't remember which one.

23:51

Nemtsov was there, along with some

23:54

member of the Japanese government, and the interpreters.

23:56

And the son of a bitch was drunk, I mean,

24:00

back to Yeltsin's alcoholism again: he got drunk and,

24:03

wanting to do

24:05

something nice for the Japanese—he was that kind of person,

24:08

impulsive—and at some point

24:10

he says to the Japanese prime minister, basically,

24:13

"Come on, bring the papers, I'll give you the islands." He was

24:16

a generous soul—what were a few islands to him?

24:19

"Take them all, I'll sign." Nemtsov

24:22

said that at that

24:24

moment he realized that we were

24:27

completely screwed—that this was the end.

24:29

If people found out about it,

24:32

they would tear us apart, the government would fall, and we'd never

24:35

get a single vote again. But

24:37

those were still times when they did, after all,

24:39

care about public opinion to some extent.

24:42

They thought: people will be unhappy, we can't

24:44

do this because people will

24:45

be upset. And Nemtsov said that at

24:49

that moment he did the one simple, only

24:51

possible thing. He understood that he had to

24:52

do something to prevent this

24:54

disaster—to snap Yeltsin out of it,

24:56

because drunk, he had simply decided

24:58

in a good mood to give everything away. He might have

25:01

gone on to hand over Sakhalin too. And he said,

25:03

"Right there in front of the Japanese, I dropped to my

25:06

knees before Yeltsin and said, 'Boris

25:10

Nikolayevich,

25:11

have mercy, this cannot be done,' and

25:15

still on my knees, 'I beg you,

25:17

stop talking this nonsense in front of the Japanese.' I mean,

25:22

for the Japanese, any kind of

25:25

emotional display or anything

25:27

outside protocol is a loss of face.

25:29

And at that level too—the president. Nemtsov

25:32

said that

25:33

the Japanese were just staring, genuinely

25:36

unable to understand what was happening. Yeltsin was stunned too.

25:40

"Naturally, I felt like

25:42

a complete idiot, but I understood that this was

25:45

the only thing that could be done at that moment

25:47

to keep Russia from

25:49

losing the four islands of the Kuril chain

25:52

simply because of stupidity, drunkenness, and

25:55

so that the public wouldn't just throw this

25:58

government out the very next day." And so

26:00

he did it. And now notice

26:02

how different the situation is. It's not that

26:04

I'm singing the praises of the 1990s, but I am definitely praising

26:08

a system in which the government

26:10

depends on the public mood, because

26:12

now nobody is going to fall to their

26:14

knees. If Putin wants to—well, those islands don't belong to you,

26:17

do they? They belong to Putin, apparently.

26:19

Everyone knows Putin won

26:20

the Great Patriotic War (the Soviet term for World War II on the Eastern Front), after all.

26:23

He bombed Berlin, he organized

26:26

the defense of Moscow, and he defeated Japan too, and all of it

26:29

belongs to Putin—so he can give away

26:31

whatever he wants.

26:33

And of course, if he gave away two islands, fine,

26:36

who would accuse him of anything?

26:38

And that's considered normal. Of course, we all need to

26:40

watch this situation and respond to

26:42

it so as not to let these

26:45

people make decisions like that. There should

26:47

be talks of some kind,

26:50

talks with Japan, but they should be conducted on

26:53

the understanding that these will be endless talks that

26:56

will never lead to anything,

26:58

because

27:00

this territorial conflict

27:01

cannot be resolved. Public opinion in

27:04

Japan unequivocally demands all four

27:06

islands.

27:06

Public opinion in Russia—roughly

27:09

speaking, the Russian people—says these islands

27:11

must not be given away. So that means

27:14

the government, carrying out the will of the Russian

27:16

people, should not give up anything. At the very

27:18

least, it definitely should not

27:20

be engaging in strange negotiations

27:23

and all sorts of unclear maneuvering, because

27:26

especially in a situation where Russia is

27:29

fairly weak economically—let's

27:30

be honest, extremely weak

27:32

economically. Okay, say we gave away two islands—

27:36

then tomorrow, of course, they'll say: hand over

27:38

the other two as well.

27:38

Then some political party in

27:41

Finland will say, well then, let's talk about Karelia

27:44

too—it was taken away as well, after all,

27:46

it used to be their territory.

27:48

An aggressive war was waged, and Karelia was

27:50

taken.

27:52

So what, are we supposed to start negotiations too

27:54

over returning every border change

27:59

that took place in the 20th and 21st centuries? Those are

28:03

the result of political decisions and

28:06

political events, wars—in other words,

28:09

some kind of grand global

28:11

upheavals. And these borders, in many ways,

28:14

from every side, were drawn somewhat arbitrarily.

28:17

Not perfectly, not fairly—there is always

28:20

someone unhappy with how the borders were drawn.

28:22

Therefore, the only possible path is not

28:27

to "solve" these problems, but rather the only possible

28:29

way forward is to move on and say:

28:31

we consider the current borders

28:33

inviolable, and we will never discuss

28:38

this again. Sure, for a moment it may seem

28:39

the Japanese are unhappy, upset, and

28:41

concerned, and every Japanese

28:43

government faces enormous pressure from

28:46

its own population on this issue. But we

28:48

have our own population and our own pressure too,

28:51

and we must hold to the position that

28:54

There is a border; it has been drawn, and we are not revising it.

28:59

But apparently, of course,

29:04

the Kremlin thinks otherwise and treats these

29:08

islands as its own personal property.

29:09

All right, let's continue. Ravshan Valiullin asks:

29:12

Ask me about the travel ban—I’ll explain now.

29:14

Inferno Vertela asks me:

29:17

Will you resume live broadcasts on Instagram?

29:19

I want to resume them, but somehow it just isn’t

29:22

working out. To be honest, I still

29:25

haven’t really figured out whether people actually watch live

29:28

broadcasts on Instagram. I mean, they do watch—there are

29:30

several tens of thousands of viewers there,

29:31

but it’s still kind of a strange format for

29:33

Instagram, so I can’t really tell

29:36

whether people need them or not.

29:39

So, Viktor asks a good question.

29:42

It’s a question that’s been bothering both me and Viktor.

29:44

Lately, honestly, if there is any

29:46

example of a country that is developing while

29:47

its institutions are degrading,

29:49

I can’t think of one, no matter how hard I try.

29:51

The courts, culture, the economy, education—everything

29:53

is either degrading or not. But, Viktor, the areas

29:56

you mentioned—well, yes, they are

29:58

degrading, because they simply cannot help but

30:00

degrade when an entire

30:02

sphere, indeed the whole state, is degrading.

30:05

And yet, look—the internet in

30:07

Russia is excellent. I’ve just come back from

30:10

Strasbourg, and Russia has great internet: fast and cheap.

30:14

You hardly find internet like Russia’s anywhere else in the world.

30:17

Maybe there are a few places, but

30:19

in most countries—even in California, in the U.S.—

30:21

internet is more expensive and worse than in Russia.

30:24

Mobile service in Russia is cheap.

30:28

Internet companies are developing; we have

30:30

a national search engine, Yandex,

30:32

which the state allows to exist. So yes, of course, there are

30:34

some sectors of the economy, some areas of life,

30:37

that are developing. But mostly this

30:39

happens where the state cannot

30:42

influence them, or where something happens

30:44

despite the state.

30:46

Life goes on: 150 million people live

30:48

in this territory, despite the fact that

30:50

deputy Milonov (a Russian conservative politician) looks at them and says

30:52

something absurd about their specific jeans or whatever.

30:54

But people keep doing things, they somehow

30:55

keep developing; they don’t just consume.

30:57

They use mobile phones, so

30:59

sales grow. In other words, life

31:01

still goes on—there is always life.

31:03

So some things do improve. But if it weren’t for

31:07

these idiots in the government,

31:09

who are just this oppressive superstructure,

31:11

everything would be developing and improving

31:13

much more. Now, about the travel ban—I’ll explain.

31:15

It was a very strange situation. Don’t ask

31:18

what that was. “Alexei, when they didn’t let you

31:20

leave the country...” So, I was supposed

31:22

to go to the announcement of the most

31:26

important ruling concerning me in the

31:28

European Court. It was a ruling recognizing

31:32

the political motive behind

31:34

all those various arrests of mine. So I was supposed

31:37

to go, and at the border they told me,

31:39

“You are not allowed to leave.” A strange situation in which

31:42

the border guards were standing there

31:43

glancing at each other—they had clearly been called

31:45

and told not to let me out. They didn’t know what

31:48

to say. They brought some strange

31:49

piece of paper, and it said that

31:52

I had been banned from leaving.

31:54

But they gave no exact reason. I know that I can have

31:59

problems with leaving the country,

32:01

so we always monitor the database for things like

32:03

debts or something else—some fine

32:05

might get attached and they won’t let me out. But there was nothing.

32:08

It turned out they had invented some kind of

32:11

fine for me in the Kirovles case.

32:13

And in fact, they had drawn up the documents

32:16

retroactively.

32:17

Fortunately, Yevgeny Chichvarkin had long ago

32:21

transferred money several months earlier

32:23

to cover just such a fine.

32:24

He transferred that money to my lawyer; he

32:26

was ready to pay that fine for me, for which

32:28

many thanks once again. So we passed on the

32:30

money, meaning we could pay it instantly.

32:31

We paid it, and the Russian authorities immediately

32:33

found themselves in a ridiculous situation, because

32:36

we could see that some people had said,

32:38

“Don’t let him out.”

32:39

And then other people started saying,

32:41

“You idiots, by not letting him out you’ve created

32:43

a scandal out of nowhere. Let him go.”

32:45

It would be one thing if he were just traveling with his family

32:48

to an exhibition. In fact, two weeks earlier

32:50

I had gone to an exhibition with my family, and they

32:52

let me out. But this time, don’t let him go to court?

32:55

How would that look in court? A ruling is about to

32:57

be issued on the political

32:59

motivation behind the persecution, and you won’t let him go to that

33:01

court? Idiots. In other words,

33:04

some idiots

33:05

—let’s say, the less idiotic ones—scolded the more

33:09

idiotic ones, and apparently that’s why I was

33:10

allowed to leave. I don’t have an answer to

33:12

that question. Everyone at the court was asking me,

33:14

like, “What on earth was that?” And everyone here

33:16

is asking too. I simply don’t know. I mean,

33:18

it was just sheer idiocy,

33:20

the stupidity of some people. But I don’t know—maybe

33:23

someone high up called the border service and said, “Don’t

33:25

let him out.”

33:26

And then, when all of this blew up, maybe

33:28

Putin said, “What are you doing?

33:29

Are you stupid? Why are you meddling in something that’s not your business?” I don’t

33:32

know. Maybe it wasn’t anyone important at all; maybe it was

33:34

some completely ordinary Vasya or Petrov-type

33:36

officials.

33:39

At a lower level. But I still

33:41

doubt that, because it couldn’t have happened

33:44

at that level for instructions to come so quickly

33:46

not to let me out, and then for them to be

33:48

canceled so quickly.

33:50

The Federal Penitentiary Service.

33:53

Even the bailiff service issued

33:54

a special press release saying

33:56

that yes, yes, yes, we had cleared him to travel.

33:57

It was a strange situation, but as for

34:01

the substance of the matter,

34:03

it really was a major victory.

34:06

Look, over the course of several

34:08

years I was detained several times,

34:11

arrested and jailed, or simply

34:12

detained, and in the European Court

34:18

I won several of those cases, but the

34:21

European Court

34:23

said that it recognized that my rights had been violated,

34:25

the right to liberty had been violated, but it would not

34:27

recognize, for its own reasons, that this had

34:30

a political motive behind it.

34:32

That political motive was completely

34:33

obvious to me, so I appealed to

34:35

the Grand Chamber, and the Russian Federation, in

34:38

turn, said: actually, we had every right

34:40

to arrest and detain him, so we also

34:41

filed an appeal, and we all submitted

34:44

appeals, so the case ended up before the Grand Chamber.

34:45

It’s a very solemn, very serious

34:48

thing. I went there and spoke, and as you can see,

34:51

I’m congratulating my lawyers.

34:53

We really did win after all, and when the

34:58

judgment was announced, honestly, all the lawyers

35:01

we had spoken to told us,

35:03

“Get ready: overall, you’ll

35:05

win. These arrests will still

35:07

be recognized as unlawful, but you won’t

35:09

get that Article 18 finding,”

35:12

meaning recognition of a political motive. Because the most important

35:14

thing for me was for the political motive

35:16

to be legally established, because

35:18

the court does not like doing that, and the court

35:21

doesn’t want to pick a fight with Russia. It looks

35:24

super scandalous.

35:25

It breaks with the court’s practice and

35:28

affects its future

35:30

case law, so they’ll come up with some

35:32

formula where you sort of

35:34

win, but the political motive won’t be

35:36

recognized.” And honestly, after

35:41

talking to the lawyers, I went there thinking,

35:44

“Why the hell did I even drag myself here?

35:46

There’s all this attention, they didn’t

35:47

let me out, and now yes, we’ll win, but

35:50

we’ll miss out on Article 18.”

35:52

And I’ll have to come out here and explain that

35:54

it doesn’t matter, that the whole

35:56

point isn’t in that article—I’d be putting on a brave face

35:58

in a bad situation. But

36:02

what happened was a truly major victory. The body

36:07

of evidence we presented

36:09

to the court was such that they simply could not fail

36:12

to recognize the political motive, because

36:15

my lawyers really did an excellent job.

36:17

My lawyers submitted all the documents.

36:20

In some of the cases—I won’t

36:22

bore you with the details—but there

36:24

the sequence of events was such that it was

36:25

impossible not to recognize it, and the court did

36:28

just that: it found a violation of Article 18. The position of the Russian

36:31

judge is very interesting,

36:33

the Russian judge at the European Court, because in

36:35

the first instance, when the political motive

36:37

was not recognized, the Russian judge, whose surname was

36:40

Dedov, wrote a separate opinion. I even posted

36:43

it on my blog and said, “My God, Russian

36:45

judges can write amazing separate opinions.” And in it

36:48

he wrote outright that of course there was

36:50

a political motive and that we had to recognize

36:53

that political motive—it was very important.

36:55

In other words, the judge knew the motive would not

36:58

be recognized, and that’s why he wrote that it needed

37:00

to be recognized. But this time he knew that it

37:03

would be recognized by the majority of judges, and he then wrote

37:06

a separate opinion saying he was categorically against it,

37:08

that this could not be done. Interesting, isn’t it—

37:10

he changed his mind so quickly and wrote a separate

37:13

opinion. But in any case, it was 14

37:15

votes to 3—we won. Judges voted

37:19

for me who, based on the usual alignment,

37:21

would never, in situations like this,

37:24

vote in our

37:26

favor. For example, the judge from Armenia

37:27

voted in favor.

37:29

And in that sense, this is a major victory not

37:31

just for me, and not even primarily for me, but for all the people

37:34

who are detained. That’s really great.

37:39

Onkrut asks what I think

37:41

about the proposal to refuse

37:44

imported medicines and

37:45

equipment. I’ll say more about that, but

37:47

in a word: it’s idiotic, obviously.

37:51

Andrei asks whether working in banks

37:53

is becoming a threat to employees’ lives.

37:56

I’m not sure why working in banks—well,

37:58

write to me in more detail, I don’t understand.

38:00

But for now, while you write in more

38:02

detail, let me talk about our dear Seryozhka

38:06

Brilyov. Today we released an

38:08

investigation.

38:09

You know that those who follow our

38:12

videos know we have a particular interest in Russian propagandists.

38:16

They are the most disgusting,

38:19

vile crooks, but to me, really,

38:22

people like Zolotov or, I don’t know, Shuvalov, or others like them

38:28

are no more repulsive than someone like

38:32

Solovyov, Kiselyov, or Brilyov, because

38:37

it is precisely these propagandists, on

38:39

their constant lies, that Putin’s

38:42

regime stands. These are people who lie

38:45

to millions and brainwash millions. This

38:48

works not only in Russia—it works

38:50

everywhere. Look at these absurd

38:52

strange regimes—you had Mugabe in

38:55

Zimbabwe sitting in power for 20 years because

38:57

he also had television and newspapers

38:59

telling everyone what a wonderful

39:01

Robert Mugabe he was. He was a completely mad

39:03

old man who managed to create

39:05

22,000 percent inflation there, and we have

39:08

the same kind of disgusting liars. We keep an eye

39:11

on them, and we’ve ended up with a kind of mini-

39:13

series. We made one episode about the Paris

39:16

Gabrelyanov’s apartment at LifeNews, we

39:19

talked about Solovyov and

39:21

his villa on Lake Como, and now Sergey

39:25

Brilyov is a case that, from my

39:27

point of view, is absolutely astonishing—not because

39:30

we found not only an apartment there for

39:32

a million dollars in London

39:33

but also because this man is a subject

39:37

of the United Kingdom. People confuse citizenship and

39:39

what it means to be a citizen of the United Kingdom

39:41

or a subject of a country. So if

39:43

Britain is a monarchy, then under a monarch you are formally

39:45

a citizen in Russia, but in Britain you are

39:46

a subject. Therefore,

39:48

Sergey Brilyov is a British subject.

39:51

Let’s

39:51

take one minute and 30 seconds—a brief summary of

39:54

our video for those who haven’t watched

39:56

it yet. Our mini-series *Propagandists* continues.

40:01

A legend of Russian political

40:02

journalism, the deputy general director of the VGTRK holding company,

40:06

Sergey Brilyov. We type the surname

40:10

Brilyov into the public database of British

40:12

legal entities, and there is only one

40:15

match.

40:15

A London company belonging to a certain Irina Brilyova

40:19

—that is Sergey Brilyov’s wife. We find the exact

40:22

Brilyovs’ apartment in London

40:24

simply by going through all the apartments in the building

40:26

managed by the company in which she has a stake.

40:30

Here is the building. A nice area,

40:33

a lovely, affluent part of West London with

40:36

the Thames, parks, and not far from

40:39

Heathrow Airport. And here is the property record for the apartment.

40:42

Owner: Irina Alexandrovna Brilyova.

40:46

Purchase date: February 22, 2016,

40:50

on the eve of Defender of the Fatherland Day (a Russian public holiday on February 23).

40:52

Price: £700,000. These unremarkable

40:56

books are a source of priceless

40:59

information for us—they are the lists of those who have the right

41:03

to vote in UK elections.

41:06

In other words, subjects of the United

41:09

Kingdom. We open the relevant page and

41:13

see that back in 2001, one Sergey

41:17

Brilyov

41:17

and Irina Konstantinova—that is Brilyov’s wife’s maiden name—

41:20

his wife’s maiden name,

41:21

were registered as voters in the district of

41:24

Notting Hill.

41:27

Here’s what I suggest we think about, because

41:30

citizenship—your relationship to a country—

41:33

is defined by a certain highest form

41:36

of loyalty. You become a citizen

41:38

of that country, or a subject of that country. Well,

41:41

that is, in itself

41:42

okay, you realized that you like Britain

41:47

more than Russia.

41:48

Your family lives there; in Brilyov’s case,

41:50

his daughter and wife live there permanently, and he

41:55

flies here every Saturday—or

41:58

conversely, flies to them for a couple of days.

42:00

That’s a constant. But you have determined for yourself

42:04

a kind of final form of loyalty.

42:06

Having weighed everything, you said that your life,

42:11

the future of your children, is ultimately connected

42:13

with Britain. That is precisely why admission to

42:18

citizenship—or, in this case, becoming a subject—

42:20

is surrounded by these, well, ritual

42:23

formalities. In order to become a subject

42:26

of the Queen, Sergey Brilyov

42:29

—already in 2001, while working

42:31

for state television, heading the

42:33

bureau of state television—you

42:35

are supposedly representing your country. On behalf

42:38

of that country, you go to

42:39

press conferences, raise your hand,

42:42

and say: ‘Sergey Brilyov, Russian

42:43

television, and here is my tough question for you,’

42:46

to a British politician who is there

42:48

making Russophobic statements,

42:51

asking why you believe this and that,

42:55

and so on—representing a side. Yet while being

42:57

a state TV journalist, you go

43:00

and become a subject, and you take

43:03

an oath—you recite not some vague

43:06

words, but specific words. You say: ‘I swear

43:09

to faithfully bear allegiance to Queen

43:12

Elizabeth II, her children, and heirs.’

43:17

‘I swear that I will be loyal

43:21

to Great Britain.’ In other words, this is you

43:23

standing there and saying those words. It is

43:27

a symbolic

43:28

and ritual act in which you

43:32

simply make a declaration: this country is

43:34

the main one for me, and all the other countries are

43:38

secondary. And the main country

43:41

for Sergey Brilyov is

43:43

Great Britain. And, well, agree, it is very

43:45

infuriating every Sat—

43:48

The thing is, he is not just a journalist—

43:52

he is a deputy general director at VGTRK.

43:54

At VGTRK.

43:56

That is all—not just the second

43:58

channel button; it is a huge structure. There are dozens

44:04

of regional TV stations,

44:08

dozens of radio stations, thousands—tens of

44:11

thousands—of employees. Their budget is

44:15

23.5 billion

44:18

rubles (about US$370 million at the time). So this guy, receiving

44:21

his salary from us, is one of the top figures

44:23

in Russian television, a deputy director. He

44:27

lectures us on life every Saturday. He hosts

44:30

the inauguration. And the inauguration—why is that, by the way?

44:33

By the way, I think—well, I allow for the possibility,

44:36

rather, let me put it this way: I allow that

44:39

the state system, all those webs of

44:42

checks and all the little officials who

44:44

are supposed to vet everyone,

44:45

may not know about Brilyov’s British

44:48

subject status, because the man

44:50

hosts every inauguration. It is a kind of

44:53

main broadcast.

44:55

There he is, Putin, walking in, so grand, and this

44:58

surely should require some special person.

45:00

Like in the old days, before sending

45:03

a cosmonaut into space, there would be some kind of

45:05

check—what if he had ‘enemies of the people’ among

45:07

his relatives? They checked the biography.

45:10

but he absolutely has to be a member there

45:13

of the party, and so on and so forth.

45:15

So even now, just some random guy can't be the one conducting the inauguration.

45:18

just some guy

45:20

We need to check that. I explained the whole thing—that

45:22

Putin's inaugurations, all this

45:24

patriotic nonsense—it's an obvious lie.

45:27

All those tough questions to foreign

45:31

leaders—all of that was being asked

45:33

all of that was being done by a citizen, a subject

45:37

of Britain, who swore his

45:39

loyalty

45:40

to Queen Elizabeth II, but he really is

45:43

offensive. I mean, did

45:45

Brilyov commit a crime?

45:48

Actually, he did. Sorry, it just occurred to me

45:52

just now.

45:54

I remembered—do you recall there were protests in

45:59

Volokolamsk over the landfills, and one of the

46:02

leaders of those protests, a guy named Artyom

46:04

Lyubimov, had a case fabricated against him

46:06

because the FSB sent over a piece of paper saying

46:09

that he supposedly had American

46:11

citizenship. And if you don't inform

46:14

the Russian authorities about your other

46:16

citizenship, then a criminal case is opened

46:19

against you. Lyubimov had to

46:21

run to the U.S. embassy and get

46:24

a certificate from them saying it was all fake and that he was not

46:26

some kind of citizen. The case was dropped.

46:28

But here we know for an absolute fact that

46:31

Brilyov

46:32

is a British subject. We know that he is

46:36

on the voter rolls.

46:37

He couldn't have ended up there by accident. His wife

46:40

and daughter live there; he stays there on a regular basis.

46:43

They simply have no other basis

46:45

for permanent residence there except

46:48

citizenship, the status of a subject

46:51

of the Queen. And, frankly, I'm almost

46:54

sure that he did not notify

46:56

the relevant authorities.

46:58

Which means he committed a crime.

47:00

A formal offense, but still a crime.

47:02

Let the FSB or whoever else

47:04

deal with him, but as far as all of us are concerned,

47:07

he acted in a simply insulting way—not

47:09

just a crook, but a lying

47:14

crook. Not just some famous official who

47:18

bought real estate abroad—

47:19

because apparently life here is bad, here

47:22

education is bad, healthcare is

47:24

bad.

47:24

That's why they all go there. But this is even more than that—

47:26

he actually took citizenship while serving as

47:29

a state TV correspondent. I mean, what kind of

47:32

bottomless hypocrisy is that? By the way,

47:33

now it's clear why Sergei

47:37

Brilyov

47:37

one of the reasons why he speaks so softly,

47:40

so gently,

47:41

such a propagandist—a propagandist of good

47:43

news—because if he were to go

47:45

in the style

47:46

of one of those completely deranged

47:49

types—say, Shenin (a Russian TV host)—

47:52

well, they probably wouldn't let him into Britain, just like

47:55

they didn't let Kiselyov (a Russian propagandist) in. And for him that would be

47:59

a problem, because then it would start

48:01

a whole investigation: let's not let

48:02

Brilyov into Britain—and then it would turn out we can't

48:05

not let him in, he's our citizen. There he is,

48:07

standing right here with us,

48:08

with a portrait of the Queen and all that,

48:12

probably voted for Brexit too.

48:14

That's why his program has this very

48:16

carefully evasive tone. But despite the fact that

48:18

he may not provoke the same kind of

48:21

raw, sharp emotions as

48:25

Solovyov, or that same Gabrelyanov,

48:27

I urge all of you to help

48:29

spread this video.

48:32

Because for 17 years—seventeen years—this guy has been on

48:36

state television, and he, well, he

48:39

has raised millions on his propaganda,

48:42

basically brought up an entire generation.

48:44

Putin has effectively been in power for 19 years,

48:47

and this man has spent 17 of them singing his praises. So it's very

48:50

important that everyone finds out now: yes, this is

48:53

the kind of guy he is—he swore

48:56

allegiance to the United Kingdom, and yet here he is,

48:59

sitting here telling us about

49:01

Putin. And my fundraising department will cut my head off with a chainsaw

49:03

if I don't now

49:06

mention—remind you about—the magical link

49:09

to FBK info; it's in the description. If

49:11

you like what we do, then

49:14

go there and sign up for

49:17

a donation, because investigations—

49:20

we do these great investigations, but

49:23

they do require expenses. We said so casually

49:26

today in the video: we checked and

49:28

found Brilyov on the citizenship lists. But that meant

49:30

days and hours that had to be spent

49:35

in that place searching. I mean, we

49:39

understood

49:41

that something was off there, and most likely

49:44

he was a citizen: his wife keeps showing up there,

49:46

his daughter keeps showing up there and lives there,

49:49

they have property there—so overall

49:51

analytically, we understood that

49:54

Brilyov is a subject of

49:56

the United Kingdom.

49:58

But it had to be proven, and that really took

50:01

hours and hours and hours of work.

50:04

And we put in those hours and do this work with your

50:06

money, so if you support us,

50:09

it will be easier for us—and harder for Sergei Brilyov.

50:11

Generally speaking, it will go worse for Sergei Brilyov.

50:14

And isn't it true that Sukhotsky got

50:16

12 days under the article for petty

50:18

hooliganism?

50:19

Well, 12 days isn't insignificant. We

50:24

don't get less than that. By the way, speaking of

50:28

cases like that—if they catch Husky (the Russian rapper) again

50:30

next time, he'll probably get

50:31

significantly more. Again, once more,

50:34

despite the fact that we obviously have different

50:37

I don't share the political views of this

50:39

remarkable rapper at all,

50:41

and I feel not a shred of schadenfreude. The fact that he has now been

50:44

unjustly convicted for something that should not be subject to prosecution is

50:48

wrong. In other words, we have to set aside, you know,

50:50

this whole context of what was supposedly wrong in his songs,

50:52

what he says there, and what he

50:55

said earlier about Donbas (the eastern Ukrainian region contested since 2014), or about Crimea,

50:58

or about anything else. He may have said things that were pleasant

51:00

to some people and unpleasant to others,

51:02

but he was jailed unjustly, and once again we have

51:04

been reminded that this government

51:07

will devour anyone simply because it needs

51:10

someone to devour.

51:11

So Husky got

51:16

12 days in jail.

51:16

Narik Maloyan asks: does Article 18 of the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights) have any

51:18

practical significance?

51:20

How exactly will that give you

51:23

more room to act? Narik, if you get to the root of it, it won't. What

51:27

practical significance does it have? None. But it does have

51:30

legal significance, because

51:33

it establishes a fact. In the beautiful Russia of the future

51:36

— the Russia of the future —

51:37

when we put all of them on trial, from

51:39

Brilev

51:40

to these judges, it will make our case

51:44

more serious, because we will already have

51:47

simply

51:48

proof: a court will have recognized

51:51

that there was a political motive. So

51:53

to throw them all in prison, we

51:56

will need to make less effort.

51:57

In Russia right now, does it change anything? No. They will keep using

52:01

arrests at rallies, but

52:03

obviously they will, because they don't want

52:04

me taking part in them. They will keep

52:06

obstructing our work,

52:08

and they will do so because they

52:10

don't want investigations about

52:11

Brilev to be published. From a legal point of view,

52:16

for future court practice this matters; from the

52:18

standpoint of moral satisfaction

52:20

it matters; from the standpoint of other similar

52:23

cases it matters. From a practical standpoint,

52:25

they have the power, they run everything here,

52:30

and until we bring out onto the streets

52:34

a radically larger number of

52:36

people — until a million people

52:39

come out, until we can organize the kind of

52:41

intensity of pressure that will force

52:43

them to retreat —

52:44

then of course it has no

52:47

practical effect. Will someone refuse to

52:49

do something out of fear of this ruling?

52:51

There are plenty of examples. Will Putin refuse

52:53

to steal another billion

52:54

dollars? The answer is no, he will not. Good

52:58

question. William Eisenhower asks: has it ever happened

53:01

that your team checks an official

53:02

and he turns out to be squeaky clean — no

53:05

expensive real estate, no

53:06

huge bank accounts?

53:09

All the time. First of all, we very

53:12

often don't find anything, that's

53:14

natural. For the majority of

53:16

officials

53:17

we find nothing. And then, what does

53:20

"not squeaky clean" mean? This system is such

53:23

that many people in it simply cannot

53:25

steal. They would like to, yes, but they are not

53:27

close enough to the feeding trough. Some are afraid, some

53:30

simply don't have the opportunity. So we don't

53:33

say we've found someone squeaky clean. We

53:35

find that, say, he receives a salary

53:37

that is fairly high — officials now receive

53:39

large salaries — and more or less

53:41

lives on that salary, is not involved in business,

53:43

his wife doesn't run a business either, she doesn't have 10

53:46

expensive cars — so he lives

53:48

on, say, 120,000 rubles a month as an official, or

53:51

450,000 rubles as a State Duma deputy,

53:52

and we haven't found anything else major on him.

53:55

But that does not make him, for us,

53:58

squeaky clean, because he is

53:59

part of this government. He still bears

54:02

responsibility for what is happening.

54:03

So in that sense, we do not put him on a white

54:06

list; we do not place him on the list

54:09

of those who should be sent to the

54:11

defendants' bench. Leonid Novikov

54:13

asks: could the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF) in the future become

54:15

your ally, or do you think it is

54:17

gradually drifting toward being a tame

54:19

Kremlin opposition?

54:20

There's nothing for it to drift toward. The CPRF

54:24

is a tame Kremlin opposition party. At the same time,

54:27

I constantly support the CPRF.

54:29

During the last gubernatorial elections, on this

54:32

program I kept talking about candidates

54:35

from the CPRF and even from the LDPR, in the case of

54:38

Khabarovsk Krai.

54:39

Even though that is absolutely

54:42

a puppet, a pocket party. But that's the thing:

54:44

today they are tame, tomorrow

54:47

less tame. In any case, first and

54:50

foremost, we must act against the monopoly

54:52

of United Russia.

54:53

That is why I see nothing

54:56

wrong with this — people will start throwing tomatoes at me,

54:59

as Husky would say,

55:01

what do you call them, from the people of

55:03

Patriarch's Ponds (an upscale central Moscow neighborhood) to

55:06

— but still, what I'm saying is:

55:07

you can and should vote for the Communists

55:12

for rational reasons,

55:14

because in that case United Russia will lose.

55:17

Because, as you can all see, there is no

55:19

normal alternative right now. So let's

55:20

vote for the Communists so that we have fewer

55:23

United Russia people on the field, so that

55:25

their position weakens. That needs to be done, and we need to

55:28

stop endlessly agonizing: my God,

55:30

they're Stalinists, they're bad, they're

55:32

a tame opposition. Yes, they're Stalinists,

55:34

a tame opposition — but if we are

55:37

going to be a little smarter, we

55:39

understand that our task is to defeat United Russia.

55:43

lower it so they get fewer votes

55:46

controlled, because when they

55:47

control 90 percent, the Communists

55:50

a pocket opposition; when they

55:52

control 40 percent, the Communists

55:54

will stop being a pocket opposition, that’s it

55:56

and that’s all. I have a section called

55:58

“The Horrors of War in Their Heads,” and here

56:01

there’s a lot to cover. Let me race through

56:03

it at breakneck speed—I’ve already talked so much that

56:04

the program is already coming to an end, I mean

56:08

that is, over the week—I wasn’t on air last week

56:11

last week because this nonsense happened

56:13

First of all, Ms. Lakhova, a member of the Federation Council

56:16

said that when she

56:20

commented on a proposal by one of the

56:22

deputies that the subsistence minimum needs to be raised

56:24

she said that, basically,

56:27

all those who are unhappy with low

56:29

wages and the high cost of

56:31

the food basket should remember

56:32

the horrors of war. And you know, the conclusion

56:38

the main conclusion to draw from this is not

56:41

that Lakhova is crazy, nor that they

56:43

should simply disband the Federation Council—who

56:45

even are these people? Where did this

56:47

woman come from? By the way, 5 to 6 million

56:50

rubles a year (about $55,000–$65,000). I mean, I’m older, I remember

56:53

where she came from. There used to be a party called

56:55

Women of Russia in the 1990s; they were all over the place

56:58

and then they drifted into United

56:59

Russia. Now this nomenklatura functionary is getting five and a

57:02

half million rubles (about $60,000) and

57:04

is calling on those whom—well, she, she is

57:08

a senator from Bryansk Region, where the average

57:10

official salary is 26,700 rubles a month (about $290)

57:13

in reality, I think it’s around 20,000 (about $220), and this

57:16

person, earning 5 million, speaks on behalf of

57:19

the people of Bryansk and says: let’s remember

57:23

the horrors of war. What the hell? The war was 75 years

57:27

ago.

57:28

There were horrors—yes. But what does that have to do with low

57:31

wages now? Let’s remember

57:33

Napoleon’s wars too, let’s remember

57:35

the horrors of the Permian period, when

57:38

cataclysms happened and 90 percent of living creatures

57:41

on Earth died out. All our problems—what,

57:45

some rapper like Husky (Russian rapper),

57:47

some Brilyov (likely TV host Sergey Brilyov)—you’re wasting your time

57:50

remember the horrors of the Permian period

57:52

trilobites were dying out by the billions—that’s what

57:57

that’s exactly the same idiotic logic. In no

58:03

way does this Lakhova have anything

58:06

to do with the war, nor does she have anything

58:09

to do with its horrors, or with its victories

58:11

the only thing she has anything to do with is that

58:14

right now the salary in Bryansk Region is 26

58:18

thousand rubles, and so really, well

58:21

what more can you say, once again, about the moral

58:22

they are stupid, immoral people, and the entire Federation Council

58:25

should simply be kicked the hell out

58:27

and here we smoothly move on to remember another

58:30

one

58:32

prominent Federation Council figure, Valentina

58:35

Matvienko—my favorite

58:36

she’s just a marvelous woman. She

58:39

declared that imported medical equipment

58:42

is a sign of bowing down to the West. Meanwhile

58:44

Matvienko herself, two months

58:46

earlier, was asked: what do you

58:49

think about a law that would

58:51

ban officials from receiving treatment abroad?

58:53

And she said: what are you talking about, that’s

58:56

a violation of the Constitution. How can we

58:59

forbid officials from being treated

59:01

abroad? And then immediately, just

59:04

two months later, she says that if you

59:07

or your grandmother go and want

59:11

to get, say, a scan on a tomography machine

59:14

a proper one, meaning an imported one, then

59:16

unfortunately that counts as bowing down to

59:18

the West. This person is constantly draped in

59:21

luxurious fur coats, covered in jewelry

59:25

we even did a little

59:27

investigation: Valentina Ivanovna

59:29

has a Chanel watch

59:30

worth $23,000. Well then give it up, Valentina

59:35

Ivanovna. Wear a watch from the Zarya factory or

59:38

some Poljot watch or something else

59:41

domestic. Why such

59:43

bowing down to the West, and for

59:45

$23,000 at that? She’s decked out head to toe in

59:48

Mikimoto pearls—so what’s all that for?

59:52

Come on then, let’s bring out granite

59:54

feeding troughs, hang up some Russian birch bark

59:58

folk gear, wrap some kind of kokoshnik (traditional Russian headdress)

1:00:00

from the Bolshevichka factory—why Mikimoto, then?

1:00:03

Tell us, Valentina Ivanovna, isn’t that bowing down

1:00:04

to the West? But they’re brazen scoundrels

1:00:07

simply real brazen scoundrels. They

1:00:11

there they are, draped in Mikimoto, telling people

1:00:15

that you can’t use it, that it would be

1:00:18

unpatriotic to use imported

1:00:20

ultrasound equipment in a country where there really is

1:00:23

a “Gift Firewood” campaign, and every

1:00:26

year it happens, and every year it

1:00:28

honestly fills me with rage

1:00:32

It’s a charity drive where elderly people

1:00:36

are bought firewood, and a large number of people

1:00:40

receive it

1:00:41

have it delivered. Our level of gas supply

1:00:43

in rural settlements is up to 57 percent, and

1:00:46

there, one of

1:00:49

these activists runs this campaign

1:00:52

one of these pro-government activists, he

1:00:54

runs this “Gift Firewood” campaign. Good for him

1:00:57

it’s good that he gave away firewood, but to me

1:00:59

it seems that the governor and

1:01:02

the president of a country where a

1:01:05

“Gift Firewood” campaign exists should simply

1:01:06

sink into the ground from shame. But we are

1:01:09

one of the world’s main gas producers; we have

1:01:14

record gas supplies going there, record supplies

1:01:17

going here. Putin was just recently sitting there

1:01:20

with Mr. Erdogan opening TurkStream (the gas pipeline)

1:01:23

billions of money have been spent, billions, tens

1:01:26

of billions

1:01:27

but how much would it cost if we gave these people

1:01:31

they should have installed gas, or at least bought firewood

1:01:33

using budget money, really, well, just

1:01:37

it’s infuriating, and yet it’s being presented as this kind of

1:01:40

powerful official caring about the people

1:01:42

love me, people, I brought you firewood, right

1:01:44

it’s not firewood that needs to be bought, people need to

1:01:47

demand that Matviyenko step down

1:01:50

from the Federation Council

1:01:51

and her Mikimoto pearls, have they been handed over already, seized?

1:01:55

because that’s illegal enrichment, and with the

1:01:57

money raised, you could buy firewood for everyone, or

1:02:00

better yet, install gas. And as for this sausage thing, listen

1:02:03

I’ve already gone over by 2 minutes, and I wanted

1:02:05

to rant, of course, about the sausage excise tax, well

1:02:08

again, it even sounds idiotic, yes, and we’re

1:02:11

seriously discussing it, and

1:02:13

the idea of introducing an excise tax on sausage is a ridiculous

1:02:16

thing, but it’s just one more, yet another

1:02:19

tax on poverty

1:02:20

because, well, who consumes the most

1:02:23

of this kind of product? Well, that is,

1:02:26

the lower a person’s standard of living,

1:02:31

the more they consume these kinds of cheap

1:02:33

substitute products: cheap sausages,

1:02:35

cheap processed meats. Sure, let them pay more

1:02:38

then. Next they’ll need a campaign not just to

1:02:40

just ‘give firewood,’ but ‘bring water’ and

1:02:43

whatever else — they already don’t have the money

1:02:46

to buy firewood

1:02:46

so sure, let them pay another 30 percent

1:02:48

in excise tax on sausages. Well, these, these people

1:02:52

really are

1:02:53

objectively enemies of Russia. I can’t

1:02:57

despite the fact that I’ve run over time

1:02:59

help but support the coolest flash mob

1:03:01

happening in Russia right now. It’s the

1:03:03

‘Putin Is a Thief’ flash mob. A schoolboy in

1:03:08

Krasnoyarsk Krai (a region in Siberia) simply wrote on

1:03:10

the blackboard: ‘Putin is a thief.’ He was

1:03:12

scolded for it, and let’s go ahead and watch 1

1:03:16

minute of what exactly the teacher is accusing

1:03:19

the Russian schoolboy of for

1:03:21

writing the plain truth on the blackboard. One minute.

1:03:25

and to those who

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already in dozens of regions across Russia

1:04:35

this spontaneous flash mob is taking place, where

1:04:37

people are writing on blackboards, ‘Putin is a thief’

1:04:41

on the board in their classroom

1:04:43

not all, but many teachers, I think,

1:04:45

would gladly put their name to that

1:04:47

some people are twisting themselves up over it, well, let them

1:04:49

let them squirm — it’s the truth, after all, and

1:04:52

let those letters burn their eyes, because

1:04:54

it’s because of people like this

1:04:56

old lady

1:04:57

who was shouting, ‘What are you doing? You’ll be

1:04:59

thrown in jail!’ Because of people like her, in

1:05:02

Russia they have campaigns like ‘Give Firewood’

1:05:05

because of her they introduce excise taxes on sausage, and

1:05:08

because of her we’re forbidden from using

1:05:11

imported medical equipment, while

1:05:13

we can’t provide our own, either. So

1:05:17

I fully support this flash mob

1:05:19

I’m wrapping up the program. I would, I’d end it with

1:05:23

because we started with the rapper Husky

1:05:25

who has just been jailed because

1:05:28

it’s believed that he promotes an un

1:05:31

healthy lifestyle, specifically

1:05:33

drugs. So, as for the healthy lifestyle

1:05:36

as performed by our authorities, as carried out

1:05:39

by the main state company, it looks very

1:05:41

impressive. So, in Tomsk

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Gazprom Transgaz Tomsk held

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a major sporting event

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called a bike ride for Russia Day. They

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organized a bike ride, people rode bicycles, and

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however many were there, never mind

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five sections of the road were closed off, everything was blocked

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it was all very pompous, Russia Day and all that

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but what I liked most was the

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‘Healthy Lifestyle’ project

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the event budget for the healthy lifestyle event

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which included

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some things that were apparently essential for

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the bike ride, and among those things were 62

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liters of vodka and 124 liters of cognac, and these

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people are jailing the rapper Husky. In the beautiful

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Russia of the future

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during bike rides we will not be

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drinking 164 liters of cognac

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thank you very much to everyone who watched until

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next Thursday

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