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It is 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, which means that here in the studio

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on Navalny Live, I am Alexei Navalny, and

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to answer all your questions,

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ask me whatever is troubling you.

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I will tell you the whole truth, absolutely.

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You can send me your questions on Twitter

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with the hashtag #Navalny2018, and I have

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everything set up here, and I will be answering your

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questions.

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I want to start with 92,000 rubles. That is the

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figure that shocked me this

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week. Zimbabwe, Putin, Medvedev,

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Medvedev running for president again, and other

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widely discussed news stories—

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but for me personally, all of that faded

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completely into the background compared with

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the astonishing report on

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the socio-economic situation in

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the city of Moscow, which was published by Moscow City Hall.

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According to this simply mega-

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super document, it turns out that

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the average salary in the city

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of Moscow is 92,000 rubles. I wanted

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to discuss this with you, and on that note

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let me launch a poll right away

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that will run on Twitter as well as

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VK and Facebook. It is very

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simple.

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Whether you live in Moscow or not—

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after all, a lot of people from Moscow are watching—

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just tell me:

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is your salary more than 92,000 rubles or

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less than 92,000 rubles? Because I

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live in Moscow, and I do interact with, well,

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let us say, middle-class people.

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Right now I am in a large office center

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where there are office workers sitting around

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who are probably also considered part of

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the middle class, and even here I cannot

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say that I see a large

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number of people earning 92,000

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rubles or more. That is higher than

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the average salary at the Anti-Corruption

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Foundation. It is higher than the average

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salary in our election campaign.

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So I am interested, because this

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simple math shows that, yes, on the one

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hand, we have the salaries of Sechin

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and State Duma deputies, and on the other hand

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the salaries of people who earn very

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little. But for the average to come out to

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92,000 rubles, the average salary in

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Moscow—

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that would mean that every third

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person we meet

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earns 100,000 rubles, 150,000

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rubles. I do not know—maybe I have some

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other Moscow or some different social circle, but I do not

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see such people in large numbers, and

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so I am very interested: do you see them?

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Are you one of them? And what do you think

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about this report? Officially, that is—

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this is not just, you know, some

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analysts or political scientists, my favorite

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people, writing about it. This is Mosgorstat,

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that is, official statistics.

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When Mayor Sobyanin and Vladimir Putin

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talk about what a wonderful

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life they have built in Russia, in

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Moscow, they will say that

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the average salary in Moscow is 92,000

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rubles.

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The average salary across Russia, which

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is now somewhere around 36,000,

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will also be calculated based on

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the fact that in Moscow

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the average salary is 92,000 rubles. So

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let us discuss whether this is true or not, and

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also, right away, there is one

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great fact there that simply

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delighted me. Besides the fact that in Moscow

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it is 92,000 rubles—meaning we are rich—

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it turns out that from September to January

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food prices overall went up by

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and guess by how much:

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one percent. In other words, they barely went up at all.

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A quote from this document has just appeared on the screen.

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So almost a year has passed, and you go to the store, and you

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go shopping, and you should not

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believe your own words, it turns out.

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Food in Moscow is not getting more expensive.

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Everything has stayed the same, only salaries are

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excellent—huge salaries, 92,000

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rubles. At the same time, the average salary in the field of

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education

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is 68,000 rubles, and the average salary in

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healthcare is also 68,768

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rubles. Some amazing Moscow—maybe

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it is located somewhere else. I do not

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really understand it, and for me it is very important

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to talk about this, because, well, basically

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I am running my election campaign with

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a fairly simple—some might say

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primitive—slogan: I want

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everyone's salary to go up. That is actually

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the main goal, really, of why a person

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should go to the polls, why I am running in

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the election: so that there is economic growth, and that

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economic growth leads to

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all of you having higher salaries. And no matter

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what region I go to—you probably know,

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those who have been to my meetings or

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watched these videos—I ask everywhere,

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and I always ask about these very

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salaries, and

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there has never yet been a case where

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the officially reported salaries for a region even

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roughly matched what people

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say. If the official salary is 35,000, then in any region

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people will tell you: the average salary in our

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city—not even in the whole region, just in

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our city—is 20,000. It is always like that, everywhere.

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And in my view—well, I interact with different

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people, again: with some in an

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office center, with others I sit in a

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special detention center—so in my view,

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the average salary in the city of Moscow would be

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is more likely approaching

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more like 45,000 or even 40,000 rubles, but

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it definitely does not correspond at all

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to that 92 percent mark. Let me

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see what you're writing here about getting past 92

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92,000 rubles. If there are already any

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questions on this topic

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so, say 2,000 rubles—what are you going to

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do about the enormous salaries, because

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officials have huge salaries,

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deputies and officials probably

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make some kind of major

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distortion in these statistics. The

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thing is, officials and deputies

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should receive high

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salaries—though not as high as they are now, of course.

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450,000 rubles for a deputy in the State Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament) is

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too much. Another matter is that we all

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should be earning decent wages

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so that the real average salary

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would match this, in my view.

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Why does this happen? Russia has a huge

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shadow economy. The Russian government

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says that a third of the economy is

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in the shadow sector, and all these construction workers,

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taxi drivers, salespeople—the entire service sector

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—a huge number of people receive

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gray or black wages, whatever you want to call them, and in any

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case those wages are lower than the ones

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paid officially, because

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who gets an official salary?

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People on the state payroll, because

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only they, only those organizations,

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are in a position to pay those gigantic,

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simply gigantic and insane

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payroll taxes—the so-called

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insurance contributions and insurance fees.

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I can see it even from our Anti-Corruption Foundation

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during the election campaign: we

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pay a gigantic amount of money

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in payroll taxes, but we can afford

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to do that because you send us money.

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We get it just like that—we don't

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earn it; you simply send it to us.

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So we pay salaries and do it fully

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officially, paying taxes in full. But no business owner

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can do that. Take any

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small business—say, Edik's place. If he paid

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everything officially and in full, they'd go bankrupt.

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And so this is what happens:

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the salaries that go into these statistics are

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those of police officers, naturally,

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officials, deputies, state companies—all

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the various Gazprom and Rosneft (major Russian state-controlled energy companies), and

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all the other budget-funded

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enterprises and government contractors.

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In other words, those who get money from

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the state, and for whom it is basically

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not all that interesting or important

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how much tax is or isn't being paid,

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because it's simply money that was sent to them,

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and in any case they will spend it and

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pay out whatever amount of taxes

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is required. This leads to a

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massive overstatement of the average

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salary across the country by

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probably 30 or 40

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percent on average, and of course that leads to

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the utter meaninglessness of all our

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Russian economic statistics. All

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this talk about real incomes

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of the population—they've been falling for years already,

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year after year, but in reality, in terms of actual wages,

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they are falling along a much

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steeper

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line. All the talk about economic

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growth, about some kind of investment demand,

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and everything else—it is all

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calculated on the basis of this 92,000

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ruble average salary in the city of

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Moscow, and

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1 percent growth in food prices.

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Let's see what they have there for us,

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whether the coordination has already started or not.

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So, on Twitter we're being told that 20

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percent

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earn more than 92,000 rubles, and 80

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percent earn less than 92,000

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rubles. Quite a wealthy crowd on Twitter.

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So please, that 20 percent

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of Twitter readers who, who

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earn more than 92,000 rubles, please go to

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right now—no need to complain—

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navalny.com and send us

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please

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900 rubles toward our election

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campaign. Now, on VKontakte (a Russian social network),

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7 percent say that they

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earn more than 92,000 rubles, and 93

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percent earn less than that. Now that sounds

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true, that sounds true. Facebook has

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similar numbers: on Facebook, 8

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percent make more than 92,000 rubles.

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And 92 percent earn less

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than 92,000 rubles—that is,

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if we assume these people are from Moscow,

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of course, then these statistics from the Moscow mayor's office

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just don't add up somehow, and

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this matches my own sense

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of how people in Moscow live, because

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these are simply insane statistics. I don't

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understand why the Moscow government

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has this level of

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audacity to publish this and not even

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try to say, well, guys, there may

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be some distortion here,

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some disproportionality. Instead, they actually say

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that yes, that's just how it is, that's

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really the case, and we're all so rich,

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earning 92,000 rubles. This is not

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a technical issue, not a technicality at all.

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It's not that I'm just nitpicking

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statistics or arguing over some data.

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This is a fundamental thing about Russia, a fundamental

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thing about all of us:

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we earn far less than we should

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be earning in a country at this level.

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of development, and we end up with figures that are actually much

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lower than what the official

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statistics show. Official statistics are lying, and

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any further calculations, as I already said,

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simply make no sense. So

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every time you hear that, well,

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Dmitry Medvedev or Putin likes to say

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that people are, you know, continuing to get richer, that everything is fine,

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that everything is going well — then please

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remember those 92,000 rubles

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a month (about 92,000 rubles). Those words are worth exactly

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as much as these statistics. Next topic.

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Yes, now I’ll answer a couple of questions.

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Alexei, do you really not know the old

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joke about the average temperature in

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the hospital? No, it’s not even about the average temperature

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in the hospital. It’s not that, you know,

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one person has a temperature of 40°C (104°F), another is in the morgue, and

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the average comes out normal. No, this is

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simply about the fact that in this hospital

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a significant number of people are not even

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counted at all. They’re just not included — they’re not even

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in the morgue yet, though they probably soon will be.

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It turns out that about 30 percent of people here are simply

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left out altogether, and the official

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statistics are basically made up of public-sector

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enterprises and various state corporations. In

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our country right now, after all, the state

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controls 80 percent of the economy, and

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everywhere there are companies with state

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participation. They pay official

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salaries, their salaries are high, and that

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is what makes up the state statistics. But

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all those people — go to a construction site,

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talk to the workers there, and ask

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how much they earn — you’ll hear a completely

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different figure. "Have signature collection rates slowed down?"

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Kolya Chudo writes to me. No, they haven’t.

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"Is it time for a new film in the spirit of *He Is Not Dimon to You*?"

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Is something like that planned? Well, if I

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could, you know, just say,

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"Hey, investigations department, put out a new

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film like *Dimon*," — but that’s not how it

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works. We have a large number of cases

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in progress. An investigation is

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a major undertaking by a huge team of

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people. If only

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it were that simple. We already have a lot of things, we

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have a lot planned, but it

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is done in a much more complicated way than one might

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imagine. As for making sure

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the signature collection rate doesn’t fall — you can simply

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take part in it personally. To be honest, we

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were prepared for the fact that the rate

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of collecting signatures would drop. After all, right now we have almost

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700,000 signatures. We got through this

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initial stage,

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with the people who were immediately ready

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to sign, and from here on it becomes

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a big, painstaking job.

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Alexei, why did you change the Bitcoin

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wallet? Ilya asks. Was this

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an attempt to hide the real income from cryptocurrency?

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I’ve never, anywhere, had a personal Bitcoin wallet

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— I never

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declared one, never set one up.

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Honestly, to my shame, I don’t even

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really understand it very well.

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People often ask about cryptocurrencies; I

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have practically never used them.

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Perhaps you mean the campaign’s wallet.

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As far as I

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understand, nobody changed it. When Volkov

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comes into the studio, you can ask him.

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Jacks writes: "In Moscow, a programmer

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can easily make 150,000 to 200,000 rubles,

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and I’ve received offers like that myself.

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At that level, everything is expensive." Jacks, of course, in

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Moscow a programmer can make 200,000 or 250,000

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rubles, and there are quite a lot of people in Moscow

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who make 500,000 rubles as well.

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But let’s roughly estimate how many

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programmers there are among us, what percentage of the population they are,

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and what percentage of the population

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earns those 150,000 to 200,000 ruble salaries.

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I’m not disputing in any way that there are many people

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— thousands, hundreds of thousands of people — with very

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high salaries. But I repeat: for

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the citywide average to be 92,000

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rubles, that means that if not half,

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then at least a third of the people around

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us would have to be earning significantly

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more than 92,000. It really doesn’t seem to me that

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that’s true. Pavel Volodin: "Alexei, in

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your platform you propose

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a minimum wage of 25,000 rubles.

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How is that supposed to be paid by small

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business owners in the regions who have 12

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employees and are glad to pay 16,000, because otherwise

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their businesses will just shut down?" Excellent question.

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Pavel Volodin, that is exactly why we

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are proposing a comprehensive solution to this

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problem. On the one hand, yes, absolutely, I

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believe that for a full working day in

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Russia, no one should earn less

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than 25,000 rubles. That should be the minimum wage,

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and that is the kind of minimum that is set

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in any developed country. On

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the other hand, small business owners

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quite rightly say to me, "Come on,

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you want me to pay 25,000

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rubles officially, on the books, and then taxes will destroy

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my small business. Or right now I pay

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16,000; if I start paying 25,000, that will destroy my

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business." That is why we are offering business

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— especially small business — a different arrangement. We

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are saying: guys, we will free you from

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all taxes except the basic

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patent fee, from all permits,

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from accounting paperwork, from all sorts of

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endless forms, from endless

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administration of your business, which

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costs you money, costs you

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time, and distracts you enormously.

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So this is a kind of new agreement

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between the state and business: no one

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earns less than 25,000, everyone receives

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their salary officially, on the books, but we drastically reduce

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payroll taxes, so that this doesn't

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simply ruin you, and we

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will free you from 99 percent

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of the administrative burden. We will free you from

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corruption, we will free you from bribes,

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so they will stop going into someone's pockets.

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Alexander asks Alexei: monetize your

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videos—they're very popular. I would

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actually be glad to; I'm ready to watch all the ads to the

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end. It would be a decent donation to your campaign.

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Thank you very much, Alexander.

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We are thinking about it, but honestly

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speaking, we're afraid. I don't know—if at the

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beginning of this program there's an ad, and at the

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end of the program there's an ad, and

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one more in the middle—then everything here will just

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be interrupted.

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And there will be ads. Still, well, I'm running

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for president, so I can't advertise

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black caviar all over Instagram, I can't

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do things that a

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presidential candidate isn't supposed to do, and I can't

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go around left and right selling some

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product, saying as I sit here,

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"This episode is brought to you by..."

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"Likhvar Erlenberg should be jailed—and by the way..."

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by the way, buy a plane ticket from

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such-and-such airline." Well, that would

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sound a little strange. But still,

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we are not dismissing the question of monetizing videos,

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because we do need money.

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We have to maintain our studio, we

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have to maintain our organization, and our

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fundraising is being seriously hindered, so

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we will use every method. On the

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Navalny Live channel, sitting across from

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me, is our producer Oksana,

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and she has a notebook full of assignments. One of

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her assignments is to run an

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experiment with monetization. Maybe

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it will be on *Cactus*, maybe on

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Volkov's show, maybe on mine, although

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I'm a bit scared. I'd rather they try it

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on *Cactus* first—if it fails, then they

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will be to blame for everything, not me. We'll

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try it and see how it goes, but

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honestly, for now we're just afraid.

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We don't want to, because we may not raise

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that much money, but there will be a lot of shouting,

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a whole lot of outrage. So, I have a lot

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of questions here. You know, about animal rights activists—

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Katerina asks me: "Alexei, do you

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know about the animal rights activists who are

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on hunger strike near the State Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament)?" I do know.

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I know about the activists who are on hunger strike outside the Duma.

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I know that

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Igor Talkov's son came and played guitar for them,

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and was detained. And there are quite a lot of

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people there standing in solo pickets,

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and

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the authorities are constantly trying to

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have "explanatory conversations" with them.

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In other words, the police are acting against these

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animal rights activists,

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and I don't understand why, because the law

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on animal protection was introduced a long time ago.

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Public opinion in this country is absolutely consolidated

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in favor of animal rights activists.

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Everyone is against animal abusers; everyone wants them

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to face criminal prosecution, and

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frankly, it seems that even United Russia

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is not against it, as far as I understand, and

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Putin and Medvedev are all in favor of this animal protection law,

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but for some reason it

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has not been passed for years. This is, by the way, another

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example of the sheer absurdity

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and meaninglessness of the system: even when there is

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a general consensus—when everyone

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supports adopting the animal protection law—

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the system nevertheless

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works in such an idiotic way

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that the bill just sits there and is not passed.

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Animal rights activists come there,

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go on hunger strike, and they are simply arrested there—

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the police detain Igor Talkov's son.

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It's harmful. But as I've said many times,

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this system cannot do anything

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good, even if internally a consensus has formed

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that this should be done, that it is a

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good thing.

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They still cannot do it,

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because it is simply no longer structured

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in a way that allows it. Unfortunately. Alexei, were you

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at the Depeche Mode concert in Moscow?

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Boris Newman asks me. "Your answer to this question

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is very important

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not only to me, but to a huge

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number of Depeche Mode fans in

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Russia." Boris, I was at the Depeche Mode concert,

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and I even posted photos from the

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Depeche Mode concert on Instagram—there is proof.

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So please, all you many

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Depeche Mode fans,

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vote for Navalny.

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So, what else? There are 118 new

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questions just in the last few minutes. So—

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"Good evening, Mr. President Alexei

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Navalny." I like being addressed that way.

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Alex Bass asks: "Teachers are paid

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92,000 rubles, while the children of pensioners

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pay 120,000 rubles

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for tuition. What should be done? And what about state-funded places?

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I got it—this is a question about state-funded university places and

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about

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the cost of education. Indeed,

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quite often we see situations where

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the cost of education is fairly high, while

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teachers still receive rather

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little. Honestly, I believe

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that the state's priority should be

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free education for everyone.

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And that is the right thing to do; it is beneficial

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for the state in the long run, because

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as I have said many times and will always repeat,

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if people receive a good education, they

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will pay more taxes tomorrow.

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"Alexei, if they don't let you run in the election, what

21:54

will you do?" asks Andrei Shpagi.

21:56

So what am I doing? I’m demanding that they not shut me out.

21:58

Andrei, because when they don’t allow me

22:00

to run in the election, they’re not only hurting me,

22:02

they’re hurting you too, because you won’t have

22:03

your own candidate this time. More than that,

22:06

if you accept this,

22:07

you will never have a decent candidate.

22:09

That’s why we are demanding that I be allowed

22:12

to take part in the election, and we have every right

22:15

to demand that. On this same topic, Sergei Babichev asks the following question:

22:19

“Alexei, how would you assess

22:20

the likelihood that your candidacy will be allowed

22:22

to participate in the presidential election?” Look, I’m not

22:25

going to calculate the odds. I look at

22:27

the Constitution and see that it clearly,

22:29

in black and white, says that I have the right

22:31

to take part in elections. So for me,

22:33

the probability of being allowed is 100 percent. As for what

22:36

they think over there, I don’t know. Beka

22:41

Nurgaliyev writes: “Alexei, if you become

22:44

president, may I move to Russia? I’m from

22:46

Almaty.”

22:48

Just keep in mind, Beka, that I probably won’t be

22:52

very popular in your country. Still,

22:54

I do intend to introduce a visa regime with

22:55

the countries of Central Asia. But if you

22:59

come here and work properly,

23:00

welcome. People who come here

23:04

and work honestly will receive

23:07

all the necessary documents, and everything

23:08

else they need. If they pay taxes, they are welcome here.

23:11

Now, about Russian Post (the state postal service).

23:18

Neomara asks: “Although it’s a state-owned

23:21

company, what would you do about Russian Post?

23:23

23:23

Salaries there are very low—certainly not

23:25

92,000 rubles a month (about $1,500 at older exchange rates), and the quality of the postal

23:27

service is correspondingly terrible. Thank you

23:29

in advance for your answer.” Russian Post, first of all,

23:31

needs

23:33

transparency and an audit, like all

23:34

state-owned companies, because it’s

23:36

an absolutely monstrous feeding trough (a source of corrupt enrichment). Do you remember

23:39

the story about the former head of Russian Post,

23:41

who awarded himself a multi-million-ruble salary,

23:43

while ordinary employees there

23:47

have catastrophically low wages.

23:51

The salaries there are simply ridiculous,

23:53

and there are still wages of 15,000, 17,000, 20,000

23:56

rubles a month. Besides that, overall it is

23:58

a very, very

23:59

backward structure. But under the current

24:01

state, which is itself generally

24:03

backward, there is no way Russian Post

24:06

can really be developed. But it seems to me that we simply

24:08

need to look to best practices,

24:10

for example, Germany’s postal service,

24:12

which is state-owned yet works efficiently.

24:14

We need to see how everything is organized there

24:15

and do the same. Greetings

24:22

from Tbilisi.” Greetings to Tbilisi as well.

24:25

“Alexei, will you do a joint video with

24:27

Mikhail Svetov? It would be very interesting

24:29

to watch the discussion.” Svetov has appeared

24:32

on *Cactus*, and he came on Smirnov’s program,

24:35

if I remember correctly. It was very

24:37

interesting, and a lot of people watched the program.

24:39

We’ll keep inviting him in the future.

24:41

Yevgeny writes to me:

24:44

“Today RBC (a Russian media outlet) reported that the highest average

24:47

salary is in the oil refining sector—

24:49

more than 500,000 rubles a month. That says

24:51

a lot.” Well yes, it does say a lot.

24:53

The average salary in the oil sector is,

24:55

naturally,

24:56

quite high. It would be strange if it weren’t.

24:59

Of course there are people there who earn

25:02

more than 500,000

25:04

rubles a month. But I strongly doubt

25:06

that this is really the average salary in

25:08

the oil refining sector.

25:09

Because if that were true, then based on that,

25:12

quite a lot of people there would have to be earning

25:14

700,000, 800,000, even 1 million rubles a month.

25:17

It seems to me there still aren’t many

25:19

such people.

25:20

Though in general they should be earning

25:22

substantial money, especially those

25:25

who work in the far north and similar places,

25:27

so to speak. But still, we’re talking about

25:32

the average salary here, in

25:36

Moscow and in Russia overall. Of course, yes,

25:38

programmers can earn a lot of

25:40

money.

25:41

Some top-tier, highly advanced

25:43

engineers are earning a lot in Russia now,

25:45

architects too—not all of them, but some are.

25:47

The oil refining sector too. But I don’t

25:49

know—write to me on Twitter.

25:51

A chef in Moscow earns 1 million

25:53

rubles a month—yes, some do earn 1 million

25:56

rubles a month. But

25:57

still, how many chefs in

25:59

Moscow are there at that level—30, 50, or

26:02

even 300—in a city where 10

26:05

million people live? How many chefs would there have to be

26:07

for the average salary to be

26:09

92,000 rubles a month?

26:14

Kirill Tomana asks: “Please tell me,

26:16

what will you do about the company

26:17

Mail.ru?

26:19

The company is squeezing game developers dry,

26:22

and it has an almost complete monopoly on game

26:24

servers.” Well, if we see a monopoly,

26:25

we will break it up and fight it.

26:27

As for Mail.ru,

26:30

with Mail.ru, first of all we will

26:32

have a serious conversation about why

26:34

they are engaged in censorship on

26:38

the internet, why they are carrying out this censorship

26:40

online. We will clarify these issues with them.

26:42

But of course, we will be

26:45

careful and gentle with all

26:48

representatives of business,

26:51

including Mail.ru.

26:55

And understanding that this may sound a bit like

27:02

I’m asking out of idle curiosity, but could you

27:04

disclose what salary…”

27:06

you personally and your immediate

27:07

circle. Gleb Malyshev, really, you are not

27:11

anything like Dud (Yury Dud, the journalist/interviewer), not one bit, because to blow

27:13

in your interviews, you should either ask that of

27:16

people who are trying to hide it. You

27:18

can go to the FBK website right now and you

27:21

can see who works with FBK,

27:23

what they look like, see their photos,

27:26

the average salary there, and all

27:28

the other data: how much money was raised,

27:30

what it was spent on. But we are the Anti-Corruption Foundation

27:32

and we have to be transparent,

27:34

so we clearly disclose what our

27:37

average salaries are.

27:38

As for FBK, I do not receive a single kopek from it,

27:42

and never have. I am

27:43

a donor to FBK.

27:45

And I earn all my money as a lawyer. I have

27:48

my own sole proprietorship.

27:49

An individual entrepreneur. When in

27:51

court they always ask me things like,

27:52

"Navalny, place of birth, year of birth,

27:54

place of work" — I say, sole proprietor.

27:56

Navalny, sole proprietor Navalny. I provide

28:00

legal services, but right now I am primarily

28:03

focused on the European

28:04

Court of Human Rights.

28:06

If anyone needs those kinds of services for

28:08

money, come to me. For a lot of

28:12

money, I will write you an excellent complaint.

28:14

Vladimir Putin — let's talk about him. And

28:17

I got a ton of questions asking, well, when

28:20

is he finally going to announce his candidacy, what exactly is going on there?

28:22

Some very strange things.

28:24

The election is just around the corner — three or four

28:26

months away, and January, which

28:29

obviously doesn't really count. Vladimir Putin just

28:32

keeps silent. And just recently at Valdai

28:34

he was asked again: man, when are you going to

28:38

announce? What's going to happen? Are you

28:43

going to run a campaign?

28:45

Let's listen. We have about 17

28:48

seconds of his answer. Here it is:

28:51

"As you may have noticed, this year at the Valdai

28:55

Club we are not asking you the question that

28:57

used to be asked often at the Valdai Club:

28:59

"

29:00

"You know, Yegorov, are you planning

29:05

to...? We need to wrap up." Well, you see, it's all

29:09

so playful. You know, the president is acting strangely.

29:14

After all, there is an election, and it would probably be

29:17

logical if the voters — the citizens of

29:19

Russia —

29:20

knew a little more about the plans

29:23

of the country's president regarding

29:26

his participation in the current election

29:27

campaign. But he somehow doesn't want that; he just

29:29

keeps joking around — ha-ha, hee-hee.

29:31

And then there are these little tossed-out

29:35

bits of information which, in my view, are rather

29:37

ridiculous. What does it mean — Medvedev will

29:38

be blocked? They give you these kinds of

29:40

answers too. But it seems to me everything is much

29:43

simpler. All this intrigue around the

29:47

nomination and all these tricks has a

29:51

simple explanation, which is

29:54

this, my friends:

29:55

President Putin has nothing to say to you. He

29:59

simply doesn't. Because what is he supposed to say? When

30:02

he announces his candidacy, he has to deliver some kind of

30:04

programmatic speech. He has to present a

30:06

policy document. He has to

30:09

say: I have been president for the last

30:12

several years, these are my achievements, and

30:14

therefore I am running with another program for

30:17

a new term. In 2012, his

30:21

main idea was the so-called

30:23

May decrees. Who even remembers the May

30:25

decrees now? That was the thing about teachers and

30:28

doctors,

30:28

public-sector employees, having to receive salaries

30:30

no lower than the regional average salary, and

30:34

so

30:35

those May decrees were how they secured

30:39

their victory. They raised salaries; there was

30:42

room to do it. Just look at the price of

30:44

oil in 2011, 2012, 2013 — $120

30:48

per barrel. Huge amounts of

30:51

oil money were pouring in from every

30:53

direction, so they could do things like

30:55

that. But then the price of oil fell — not

30:58

catastrophically, but now it's around $62

31:00

a barrel, and that's it.

31:02

And that bubble burst. So

31:05

what can Putin say now?

31:07

If he tells the population, "Guys, I was a good

31:10

president, I was a good

31:12

president, and your salaries were rising

31:15

in recent years," then all those 145

31:19

million people — or at least the 80 million

31:21

who are actively working — will just grab

31:23

their hair and start screaming

31:25

in horror, because that is such an

31:27

obvious lie. The level of real household incomes

31:30

has been falling for four — now already five — years in a row,

31:33

and Putin has nothing to say about that.

31:37

He has all that stuff — war, Crimea,

31:40

and all that foreign policy — and he will

31:43

of course endlessly repeat the phrase,

31:45

the sacred line: "They started respecting us again in

31:48

the world," which does not correspond in the slightest

31:50

to reality. But that line

31:52

is fed so effectively to the public through

31:55

television.

31:56

But where people can tell

32:01

truth from lies,

32:02

when it comes to Syria, fine, you can spin all the tales you want,

32:05

you can show screenshots from a

32:09

video game on television and say,

32:11

"Look at what the Russian Aerospace Forces are doing there,"

32:13

or "Look how we took down the Americans," or

32:15

"This is proof of something, that

32:17

something is being done." But no matter how much

32:19

you tell a person that their

32:21

average salary in Moscow is 92,000 rubles (about $1,500 at the time),

32:23

they will simply tell you: no,

32:25

that's not true. I know that's not true because

32:27

here I am, here is my wife, and I have

32:30

Relatives—I know that’s not true. You

32:32

can say as much as you like, just like in the report, in

32:34

this one it says,

32:35

talking about how food prices rose by 1 percent

32:38

over the past year. But

32:40

anyone will tell you—well,

32:41

we all love you, Vladimir Vladimirovich,

32:43

thank you, Crimea, whatever, Ukraine,

32:45

Banderites (a derogatory Russian term for Ukrainian nationalists), but it’s not true. That 1

32:48

percent is a lie, and he has nothing to say

32:51

about the economy—he can’t say anything.

32:55

There has been no protection,

32:57

no support for entrepreneurship; none of it happened.

33:00

Nothing that was written in

33:03

those famous columns of his—remember,

33:05

in 2012 he wrote somewhere,

33:07

there was a column in *Vedomosti*, one in *Nezavisimaya Gazeta*,

33:10

some drivel in *Rossiyskaya Gazeta*,

33:12

and in some other newspapers there were various

33:15

campaign promises of his—and not a single one of them

33:19

was fulfilled. His last

33:22

presidential term was an absolute

33:24

failure. The earlier ones—you could say

33:27

they were failures too, just less so; there was

33:29

oil.

33:30

There was a lot of money then; he himself was

33:33

simply lucky, and that large amount of

33:36

oil money

33:37

led to some growth

33:39

in people’s standard of living. Now his

33:41

government has failed completely.

33:43

He has nothing to say, so Putin

33:47

will undoubtedly drag this

33:50

out until the very last moment. So I

33:54

don’t know whether it will happen in late November,

33:56

or in December, but they

33:58

will try to do it as late as possible

34:00

so that all of us spend as little time as possible

34:03

discussing his old promises and the new

34:08

promises, when he comes out again and says,

34:10

“We will remove administrative barriers to

34:13

business.” We’ll look at an article from 2012 and

34:16

see that this was already promised back then, and everything has only gotten

34:18

worse. When he says, “We will reduce

34:22

the share of the raw-materials economy, the extractive sector

34:26

in our economy,” we’ll see that

34:29

all of this was already being said quite recently, in

34:31

2012, and that it was all complete

34:33

lies. And he doesn’t want that discussion, he

34:36

doesn’t want those comparisons, he doesn’t want

34:38

us pulling out

34:40

articles from *Vedomosti* from 2012.

34:43

He doesn’t want pensioners discussing

34:46

his policy statement claiming that in

34:48

Russia inflation is supposedly 3 percent, even though

34:52

everyone knows inflation is not 3 percent.

34:55

People go to the store—it’s all lies and

34:57

manipulation. So, as I already said, they

35:01

will delay all of this as much as possible and will

35:03

try to talk about foreign policy.

35:05

There will be two things in this election

35:07

campaign: endless discussion of how

35:10

you got up off your knees and how the world now

35:13

respects us again, and there will be the endless Putin team

35:15

in every possible form. There will be

35:17

athletes,

35:18

hockey players skating around him

35:20

in circles, figure skaters doing

35:23

triple toe loops around him, and cultural figures

35:25

saying, “My God, what a

35:27

saintly man he is, everything is so

35:29

wonderful with our theaters.”

35:30

Like Alexander Kalyagin, who practically

35:32

said today—the head of, what is it properly

35:37

called, the theater union,

35:39

or whatever—basically the head

35:42

of the organization uniting theater

35:45

figures. Right now, when

35:47

Kirill Serebrennikov is under house

35:49

arrest,

35:49

and the director of that theater, Malobrodsky, is

35:51

sitting in a cell, he says to Vladimir

35:53

Vladimirovich, “You’re so great, the theater

35:55

community loves you very much and always finds

35:59

common ground with you.” In other words,

36:01

monstrous hypocrisy.

36:02

But that’s how it will be, and all these performers,

36:05

just famous people from television,

36:09

will be photographed with Putin in various

36:11

combinations, and everyone

36:14

will be discussing

36:15

foreign policy. That will be

36:17

the election campaign, and that’s why it

36:19

will be delayed. That’s why, by the way,

36:21

they announced something completely—well, anti-

36:25

constitutional.

36:26

They said that the federal address would be

36:30

delivered next year. That directly

36:32

contradicts the Constitution of the Russian

36:35

Federation. That cannot be done. That is exactly

36:39

why, incidentally, the lawyers of the Anti-Corruption Foundation

36:41

did a really smart

36:42

thing: they appealed to the prosecutor’s office so that

36:45

the prosecutor’s office would issue a warning—there is

36:48

such a formal procedure, a warning—

36:50

to Vladimir Putin, telling him that he does not

36:53

have the right, neither this year nor in 2017,

36:58

to deliver his

37:00

address in 2018, because it is supposed to be done once a year.

37:02

So let him do it—but he doesn’t

37:04

want to, because he has nothing to say. That’s

37:08

how it will be, that’s what will happen. The team—

37:11

all this talk about Medvedev, I see

37:13

many people asking about Medvedev—it’s

37:14

complete nonsense, it seems to me. Maybe I

37:17

don’t know, after three more programs like this I’ll

37:21

be saying, “Wow, they really are

37:23

putting Medvedev forward,” but I don’t believe it.

37:25

Putin’s team is being assembled, and it is being assembled by

37:27

the presidential administration. All these

37:29

hockey players are being dragged in there, paid for, and now

37:32

Kudrin has already joined this Putin team and

37:34

joined his campaign headquarters. In other words, all these

37:37

structures are being put in place there; it’s just that

37:39

right now they

37:39

are muddying the waters so there will be some other

37:42

context for discussion, so everyone starts discussing

37:44

Medvedev again, and some other things too.

37:46

They were discussing just how badly Putin

37:50

has failed over the past few years in

37:53

governing the country. Alex Boss, why

37:57

does Putin say that young people are the future

37:59

of the country, when tuition costs 120,000 rubles a year

38:01

per year (about $1,300-$1,500), and for young people studying for 3-4 years

38:04

there are no state-funded places? Why are they lying to us? Why

38:06

isn't he keeping his promise?

38:07

The promise from 2012. So Alex Bass, with his

38:09

question, explained why Putin does not

38:12

want to announce a presidential

38:15

campaign right now. But what will he answer Alex Boss?

38:17

He'll answer with nothing but his usual lies.

38:19

You've probably seen my video where

38:22

I showed a clip of him arguing with

38:25

a girl in Sochi at some

38:27

youth forum. She asked him exactly

38:29

the same question: why is the number of

38:30

state-funded university places shrinking? And Putin

38:32

without batting an eye said, 'You're wrong,

38:34

young lady, the number of state-funded places

38:36

is growing.' That's a lie. Everyone knows it.

38:38

Absolutely everyone. The official statistics

38:41

show it directly. But here's what he will

38:43

tell you, Alex Bass: he'll keep giving

38:45

the same kind of answer. He won't answer the question.

38:46

He'll say something like this:

38:48

'You ask me: tuition costs 120,000

38:50

rubles a year, people study for 3-4 years,

38:52

so why aren't you keeping your promise?

38:55

Young people are the future of the country. And he'll tell us: 'Alex, you

38:59

are wrong, the number of state-funded places is growing.

39:01

'We will increase the number of state-funded

39:03

places constantly, and we are proud of our

39:04

young people, and we will raise young people

39:06

despite the sanctions, despite the fact that

39:09

the West is tightening the noose around Russia, and no matter how much

39:13

NATO countries move closer to our

39:15

borders.'

39:16

'We still believe that young people are our

39:18

future. And in America they still lynch Black people.'

39:22

I'm simplifying, but watch any 'Direct Line'

39:26

(Putin's televised call-in show). He seems to have said there will be

39:28

another Direct Line sometime soon,

39:30

in the next few days. Watch it - that's exactly how it

39:34

will go. Any question about corruption

39:36

or broken promises will once again get

39:38

'And in America it's even worse.' That's all

39:41

it ever is.

39:42

Andryukha asks: what are you going to

39:44

do about parking in Moscow? Will you

39:46

abolish paid parking?

39:47

Andryukha, the paid parking system in

39:50

Moscow is simply implemented terribly - it's ugly and

39:52

wrong. But in a huge city like

39:55

Moscow, where 10 percent of the country's population

39:57

lives and space is limited,

39:59

of course

40:00

it's impossible not to restrict vehicle access

40:03

to the center. So paid

40:05

parking absolutely should exist - that's the experience

40:08

of every major city in every developed

40:11

country. You just have to approach it intelligently.

40:14

But paid parking in

40:16

the center is one thing. Near my home, in Marina

40:18

from my windows I can see

40:21

paid parking. But what for?

40:24

People park there - there are no traffic jams there, there is no

40:27

major problem there. Why is paid parking

40:29

needed there at all? It's just that in

40:31

Moscow City Hall there are people sitting there

40:33

who, let's put it plainly, have a rather peculiar

40:35

understanding of urban development and

40:37

a rather peculiar take on urbanism. And

40:40

besides that, they lie constantly. They

40:43

Why is the paid parking system

40:44

developing so badly, and why is the whole

40:47

system for fighting traffic jams developing

40:49

so inefficiently? Because they proceed

40:51

from the assumption that everything is fine for them, and

40:54

the Moscow mayor's office seriously tells us

40:55

that as a result of some of their measures

40:58

the number of traffic jams has decreased

41:00

by several percent. But that's a lie. It is

41:04

completely obvious to everyone that it's false. We

41:06

even did a special investigation

41:08

where we showed that the Moscow mayor's office

41:10

manipulates data and lies when it says

41:13

it is successfully fighting traffic jams. But

41:15

they don't just do the wrong things - they claim

41:17

that these wrong things are effective and

41:19

keep doing the wrong things.

41:21

So the lying is endless, and it

41:23

creates problems with parking.

41:25

So yes, paid parking - especially in

41:27

the city center - is necessary. It just needs to be handled intelligently.

41:29

That's how it should be approached. Alexander Babiy

41:35

says: 'I make 92,000 rubles. That's a tricky move -

41:38

everyone immediately thinks, so that's how much

41:40

people earn, while I'm just some

41:42

guy who has to not just work but

41:44

slave away.' I don't agree with you. That's

41:46

not how it works. More likely it works

41:50

the other way around: he thinks, 'Wow, I tried here

41:53

and I tried there, but somehow I can't find anything

41:56

for more than 65,000 at all.

41:59

'So it turns out people make 92,000 rubles.

42:00

'Better not work, not slave away at all,

42:03

I'll just go on a bender' - excuse the expression.

42:05

That's probably how it works.

42:09

There are a huge number of questions. Sorry, I'm

42:11

getting 50 new questions every minute.

42:13

And Mel Kerimov asks: 'Alexei,

42:15

in the Beautiful Russia of the Future

42:16

will the number of business inspections be reduced?' Yes,

42:18

Emil, yes, yes, yes. Right now in Russia, every year

42:22

there are two million business inspections.

42:24

Most of them are unscheduled. I honestly

42:27

don't even understand what they're inspecting. I would reduce

42:29

the number of business inspections by 500 times

42:31

at a minimum. You could cut them by 200 times immediately,

42:34

but the overall plan would be to cut them by 500 times,

42:36

because, really, what on earth are they

42:38

even checking? I don't understand. 'Alexei,

42:44

what will you do with all the

42:45

corrupt officials, and also with the deputies of the

42:47

State Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament)?' asks

42:48

Mikhail Solomentsev.

42:52

Corrupt officials and deputies of the State

42:54

Duma are, broadly speaking, pretty much the same as

42:56

other people. As for corrupt officials, we will

42:58

do what is supposed to be done with them: we

43:00

will send them to the defendants' bench.

43:02

Now, on the subject of Putin, and one more thing about

43:05

Putin—a missed question related to

43:08

Putin. Let's talk instead about President

43:11

Mugabe, because, as in the poem by Mayakovsky

43:13

(a famous Soviet poet), when we

43:15

say one thing, we mean Putin;

43:18

when we say Mugabe, we mean him. What is happening now is a very

43:19

interesting thing that is happening

43:22

right now in Zimbabwe. There has been

43:27

something like a military coup, although

43:29

the current government and the military

43:31

are saying that no military

43:32

coup took place. Be that as it may,

43:37

Robert Mugabe, who had been in power for 40 years,

43:39

has been removed from that very power,

43:42

and, as far as we understand, has now been placed under

43:45

house arrest, and a new government has come

43:47

to power. Why is this so important for

43:51

Russia? Not at all because the same thing

43:55

could happen here too. After all,

43:57

comparing Zimbabwe and Russia directly

44:00

would be very wrong—they are different

44:01

political regimes, first and foremost. And

44:05

the role of the army there is completely different. In

44:08

Russia, even in the Soviet Union,

44:10

the army and the security services—although people did not talk much about it—

44:12

did not play a major

44:14

political role; they were not

44:16

some independent factor

44:19

in politics. Politics was always run by

44:22

the political nomenklatura (the Soviet ruling elite), and the army and security services

44:24

were subordinate to them, part of that

44:26

nomenklatura, but they did not play

44:27

an independent political role. In

44:29

Zimbabwe it is different, as in many

44:31

African and Latin American

44:34

countries: the army is a kind of

44:36

independent political force.

44:38

It could remove a leader. But for us, what matters now

44:42

is something else: the debunking of myths

44:46

about those very approval ratings. Because

44:49

at any meeting, in any conversation,

44:52

someone will обязательно tell you: well, how can you

44:55

possibly fight Putin? It's completely pointless. If you

44:58

run against him in an election, it's

45:00

meaningless—after all, 86 percent of people

45:03

support him, the whole country, it turns out,

45:04

supports him.

45:05

Of course, I don't know such people myself, but still—

45:08

look, everyone around him seems to support him.

45:10

The polling says so. More than that, we

45:12

conduct our own polling, and we

45:16

can get the same figures too. But right now,

45:18

when you ask a person a question like

45:19

"How do you feel about Vladimir Putin?"—"I approve,"

45:21

that is the expected answer, the socially

45:23

acceptable, socially approved answer.

45:27

Of course I support Vladimir Putin,

45:29

because you cannot say otherwise. And

45:32

the same thing was true in Zimbabwe for

45:34

many, many years. So let's

45:36

just—I'm curious—

45:38

what do you think Mugabe's approval rating was in 2015?

45:41

I have it written down here:

45:44

back then, his approval rating

45:46

exceeded 90 percent. In the most recent

45:51

election, how many percent did Robert Mugabe get?

45:53

A lot, a lot of percent—

45:56

far more than Vladimir Putin

46:00

got in 2016, and that was quite recent.

46:04

By the way, Robert Mugabe unveiled

46:06

a monument to himself, and we laughed at it,

46:09

the whole world laughed at it. But inside

46:12

Zimbabwe, just like our United Russia (the Kremlin-backed ruling party),

46:15

people said: how great, how wonderful. Yes, he

46:19

has the right to unveil a monument to himself because

46:21

people really do

46:22

support him; they have rallied around

46:26

their national choice. And in February

46:30

2017, President Mugabe's wife—

46:33

quite a character, and apparently one of

46:36

those responsible for what happened next, the

46:39

coup—literally said

46:41

that Robert Mugabe's approval rating

46:45

was so high that even if we

46:47

put his corpse on the ballot,

46:49

that corpse—dead Mugabe—would

46:52

defeat any living opposition candidate.

46:55

It was the same in Russia, and even more so, and all

46:58

the polling confirmed those numbers, and

47:01

it really seemed clear that with such

47:03

support, there was nothing you could do.

47:05

He had been there for 40 years, he was 90 years old, but in

47:07

fact people supported him, because

47:09

there were reasons for it: once, he

47:11

won the anti-colonial war, he drove out

47:14

the occupiers, and then drove out the white

47:17

farmers.

47:17

He was like our own version of repeated Crimea-style triumphs,

47:21

something like that, and so we all

47:22

support him because he is our

47:24

national leader; he led our country

47:27

to victory over colonial conquerors

47:30

and imperialists, and it seemed that everything

47:33

was great and that absolutely everyone

47:38

supported him. So what happened to

47:41

those ratings? Literally, not even in 24

47:46

hours—in six hours.

47:49

The army came, put him under house

47:52

arrest,

47:53

and where were the people who were supposed to

47:55

pour into the streets to defend their

47:58

president? Where was even that same

48:00

nomenklatura?

48:01

Because when this

48:06

coup happened—or whatever you want to call it—when

48:09

Mugabe had just been removed, he had

48:11

a party there, and he also had this

48:13

youth organization, which mainly

48:15

spent its time

48:17

terrorizing various opposition figures

48:19

and intimidating everyone around them.

48:21

These people declared that, well, we...

48:23

We support Bob—his league, yes, that’s right.

48:26

The people will support him; we will, to the very last

48:28

drop of blood, defend him to the death. And then what?

48:32

A few hours later, they said

48:36

they were already declaring that there had been no

48:39

coup.

48:39

Only corrupt

48:42

dishonest people who resisted

48:45

arrest were detained, and now they are in custody—that is,

48:48

that’s all.

48:49

This is all from a statement by the party that had just

48:53

sworn loyalty to Mugabe, declaring how faithful it was

48:56

to him and his wife. So, my friends, it is very important for us

49:00

to understand that these ratings

49:02

mean absolutely nothing, and these are

49:05

ratings of emptiness, ratings from yesterday,

49:07

from a day when they seemed to have everything.

49:09

But the population simply doesn’t see anyone else.

49:11

Because Mugabe sat in power for 40 years—for 40 years we

49:14

saw no one else, and you don’t know

49:16

any other presidential candidates.

49:17

We don’t know them, so we say: yes, we

49:20

support Mugabe, because he’s the only one

49:21

we know. With Putin, it’s roughly

49:23

the same thing. He has been in power for 18 years, but at

49:27

the moment something happens,

49:30

whether aliens abduct him or something falls on

49:33

his head—royal or otherwise—

49:34

or if he is placed under house arrest,

49:36

Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, or I don’t know,

49:39

Lavrov, or anyone at all—any person from

49:43

that same Putin clique of his—

49:45

United Russia will say the same thing, and

49:48

President Putin’s approval rating, do you hear me, will

49:50

instantly become zero point zero percent. Just like that.

49:54

That’s how it always happens. It has happened in every

49:56

African country, in every authoritarian

49:59

country.

49:59

So that’s why we should not be

50:03

intimidated or even impressed by these

50:07

ratings. They mean nothing.

50:10

Stop believing them, stop repeating after

50:12

all of them, because right now in our

50:15

country any official has ratings like that.

50:16

Look at governors’ approval ratings.

50:18

They’re all at 80 percent. Look

50:20

at the ratings of the presidents of Central Asia—

50:22

they’re all at 90 percent. What does that mean?

50:25

Nothing. There is nothing to fear in this. It

50:27

means that we simply have to do

50:30

our job. Their ratings will collapse

50:32

very, very quickly, because they

50:35

mean nothing. Just five days ago, the rating of

50:40

President Mugabe was enormous.

50:42

So enormous that the airport in the city of Ha-

50:45

rare

50:47

was named after him—that airport

50:50

after Mugabe. They did it with such ceremony,

50:53

and explained that, well, we simply could not

50:55

give the airport any other name,

50:57

because the president’s approval rating was so

50:58

huge, such an enormous rating, that everyone

51:00

had to accept it.

51:01

They had to, guys—the population wanted it so much that

51:03

they had to rename the airport, and

51:05

five days later everyone ran out and

51:07

painted over that new sign:

51:10

“Mugabe Airport,” because suddenly

51:12

there was no rating at all—the people were demanding

51:14

something else. Don’t believe these

51:16

fairy tales.

51:17

We need to mind our own business, and when we

51:19

do that work, these ratings

51:21

will collapse even without a military coup—

51:22

any of them—simply because, well, because

51:25

we are right. All right, I’ve been talking so much about

51:28

Mugabe.

51:28

Let’s look at your questions.

51:35

Alexei, when you become president,

51:37

will you strip Putin of his Candidate of Economic Sciences degree

51:39

(roughly equivalent to a PhD in economics)?

51:40

But does Putin actually hold a Candidate of

51:42

Economic Sciences degree? I know that he

51:44

had, so to speak, an academic dissertation, and they caught

51:47

him plagiarizing, but I’m not sure

51:49

that he is a Candidate of Economic Sciences.

51:51

But President Navalny would not be able to strip

51:54

anyone of an academic degree, even if it was

51:55

fraudulently obtained. That is still the job

51:57

of the specialized bodies that make up

52:00

the academic community. We will make sure it is done honestly, and

52:02

those councils that

52:06

will consider questions of plagiarism or

52:09

the complete worthlessness of certain academic

52:11

works—as in Medinsky’s case—

52:13

they will decide those matters there. Whether they rule on his case or not, that is

52:17

their, their, their business. Yulia Avdeeva asks:

52:23

An interesting thing—a schoolteacher writes

52:24

that her husband is a deputy (member of parliament),

52:26

and with his salary the teacher pays only for

52:28

her personal driver.

52:30

And she came to work at the school simply

52:32

so as not to sit at home, but to keep herself

52:33

busy with something. Well yes, Yulia, that’s right: deputies

52:36

have a great life in Russia, and that is why

52:39

well,

52:41

that is why they cling to power. And indeed, the average salary of a

52:44

deputy, and the average salary in

52:47

the country, and the salary of this

52:49

teacher—well, they probably give some average figure like

52:51

92,000 rubles (about 92,000 RUB)

52:53

—we simply need to understand how

52:55

that figure is produced, and understand that

52:58

in reality it is not like that at all, and we are not

53:00

satisfied with this situation—not the arithmetic of

53:02

salaries, and not specifically this

53:05

nice little arrangement: a husband who is a deputy and

53:08

a teacher with a personal driver. Alexei,

53:12

Rosario Agro asks: how will you

53:14

protect us from the corrupting influence

53:16

of the West? We’ll build a wall and make, what,

53:21

Poland and Belarus pay for it,

53:23

as old man Trump says. But no, how will I

53:26

protect you from the corrupting influence

53:28

of the West? Let

53:30

your family or your teachers protect you, if

53:33

some people think there is such a corrupting influence.

53:36

The first foreign trip in the capacity of...

53:38

the presidents of the United States and China, maybe Ukraine for

53:40

Ivan Ivanov is watching this very jealously.

53:43

Ivan Ivanov asks: I understand that

53:44

they are watching very jealously, so I

53:46

do a simple thing: I open the papers

53:49

and look at which countries we have

53:51

the largest trade turnover and the most important

53:53

economic relations

53:54

and cooperation with, and I see that it is

53:56

the European Union, so I think it is

53:58

I assume it will be one of the

54:01

European countries. And Ivan George Lynn

54:07

writes: December 1 is coming soon — pay your taxes and sleep

54:10

peacefully. What is going on with the tax

54:12

system? Property taxes and

54:14

land taxes arrived — instead of 15,000 rubles, they charged 30,000 rubles.

54:16

We dug up my father's old papers and it turned out

54:19

that for three years he has been paying for land

54:20

that is not his. Ivan, this really is

54:23

a huge problem. For example, I received

54:25

a notice for transport tax on

54:27

a car that has not been mine for many years. This is

54:30

not an isolated case now — these are extremely widespread

54:32

cases, and they are sending out tax bills

54:34

for taxes people have already paid: tax on

54:36

property, tax on cars, and so

54:39

on. This is completely widespread. Bozhena Rynska

54:41

came to this studio; she was also billed for some kind of

54:44

taxes as well,

54:45

from the Pension Fund, I think.

54:47

And she is waging a holy war there against

54:50

the Pension Fund, which really is

54:52

completely unlawfully issuing

54:55

additional charges. Moreover,

54:57

when you catch them

54:59

issuing these unlawful charges to you, they say:

55:01

you know, we have no compensation mechanism.

55:02

We cannot return it; that is not

55:04

provided for. So next

55:06

year we will simply credit it to you.

55:08

So basically: give us your money and we

55:10

will use it for free, interest-free,

55:11

and next year it will be

55:13

counted toward your taxes. This is a widespread thing the

55:16

state is doing now. They have already tried to explain it,

55:20

saying that all of this

55:23

is happening as a result of an error. I do not believe

55:25

in any errors. It seems to me that on

55:28

such a scale

55:28

it cannot be a mistake. Ilona Yudina

55:31

asks how I feel about the fact that in

55:33

educational institutions there is

55:35

anti-Navalny propaganda, where children are being told

55:37

that you are a thief, and that

55:39

if you became president of Russia, it would be

55:41

very bad. What do you think, Ilona, about this?

55:43

How do I feel about it? I support it, I like it

55:45

— well, of course I feel about it

55:47

negatively, and once again I call on

55:49

all schoolchildren and students who hear

55:51

such things

55:52

to film it — just film everything and post it online.

55:53

Whenever this comes to light, every time there is a huge scandal in that

55:58

educational institution. We

56:00

have even seen a teacher in Ivanovo Region

56:02

dismissed for this. So I feel

56:04

very negatively about it. It is absolutely illegal.

56:06

So let's just film it.

56:07

Campaign news: let me say a little

56:10

on this topic and thank everyone who

56:12

came to meet with me. Last week I was in

56:14

Volgograd, Izhevsk, and

56:17

Smolensk.

56:17

Smolensk was very interesting. There,

56:20

the stage was practically stormed by a United Russia member,

56:22

the rector of the local

56:25

[music]

56:26

local institute of physical education. We have

56:29

a very short clip — let's

56:31

watch it, of this man in Smolensk

56:34

running onto the stage and what he said.

56:35

Of course I will say it: here on this heroic

56:39

land,

56:41

this heroic land where every centimeter

56:44

has been soaked with the blood of our ancestors, our fathers, and here

56:51

this Mr. Navalny wants

56:55

to sow division in society. You see, in your

57:00

mind you do not even have an idea of what

57:05

the country could become

57:08

if it were led by such people.

57:13

Well, it was very interesting — you saw the audience's reaction.

57:15

The man ran off the stage fairly quickly

57:19

when I started asking him questions about

57:21

corruption — specifically, corruption

57:23

in his own university. And about his own corruption, one

57:26

could simply ask the man: well,

57:28

all right, we are standing on holy land,

57:30

Smolensk land really is holy, really

57:32

watered with blood — but why are you stealing

57:34

on this land? I am standing on this land

57:37

and speaking with people quite

57:39

openly. Some may be against me, they

57:41

may be for me.

57:42

You ran up here onto the stage; you also have

57:44

the opportunity to say your piece. But why are you

57:45

stealing here, on this land, from these people?

57:48

And just like that, he was blown away as if by the wind.

57:51

Very interesting. Thank you very much to everyone who

57:53

came. This week we are spending

57:58

several days working on the program,

58:00

so this week I will not have

58:02

any major trips. Next week we will have even more.

58:04

I will try, over

58:07

three days — Friday, Saturday, Sunday — to visit 4

58:10

cities at a minimum. For now I am not

58:12

saying which cities, because as usual everything

58:14

can still fall through; everything for us is still

58:17

very difficult and complicated. In Izhevsk,

58:19

we held a meeting on the grounds of a

58:22

homeowners' association. Great guys gave me their

58:25

space; I talked about this

58:27

in detail. And now they have all been

58:28

fined 28,000 rubles, and our coordinator

58:32

was fined too. And in

58:34

Volgograd, our coordinator was jailed for 15 days.

58:38

Our coordinator, Alexei Volkov, was jailed because

58:40

the meeting lasted 20 minutes longer than

58:43

the police thought it should have.

58:45

So everything is working against us.

58:50

More and more strongly. But we’re pleased with what’s happening,

58:54

because our campaign

58:56

is going better and better, and more and more people are coming to

58:58

the meetings. It’s already very cold now.

59:01

Right now we were planning a meeting there, well,

59:04

for example—I won’t say which cities,

59:07

but I’ll be going somewhere where it’s -15°C (5°F), and the question is: will people

59:11

come to a meeting in -15°C (5°F)? And

59:14

how will a two-hour meeting go

59:16

in -15°C (5°F)? Even so, we’re still going to

59:18

hold it, because that’s the job

59:20

of a candidate. However many people come, that’s how many

59:23

will come. Just dress warmly

59:24

so I don’t freeze you all out—that’s

59:27

very important. Let me—I've got one

59:29

minute, and I still want to say something about

59:31

the results of my one-million-ruble contest,

59:33

which we wrapped up today. We literally have

59:37

a minute and a half for me to

59:39

show you a clip from the video that was published today

59:41

about the winners of our

59:43

contest. I think this is very

59:45

important. Let’s watch this short

59:47

video, and then I’ll say again why it’s

59:49

so important.

59:49

Third place: 42 points and 200,000 rubles

59:54

go to the channel “Mari Govori”.

59:56

From Nizhny Novgorod. She currently has 27,000

59:59

subscribers—subscribe, let

1:00:02

that number grow much bigger. On this channel,

1:00:04

serious topics are discussed with a large dose

1:00:07

of irony, and sometimes they even sing.

1:00:10

If the one called tsar is in charge of the gang, then

1:00:14

the metropolitans are the richest here, and yet everyone is afraid

1:00:16

all the same... Second place:

1:00:22

43 points and 300,000 rubles

1:00:25

go to Arslan U.N. from the city of Chelyabinsk.

1:00:28

Literally a week before the announcement

1:00:30

of the contest results, the guy went through

1:00:32

a pretty sad situation: his

1:00:34

phone, which had the passwords to his accounts, was stolen. After that,

1:00:37

his channel with 30,000

1:00:39

subscribers was immediately deleted. But Arslan

1:00:41

isn’t giving up and started a new channel, where he already has

1:00:44

more than 8,000 subscribers.

1:00:46

Subscribe to Arslan. Hello, dear

1:00:49

Russians, my name is Arslan, and this is about the 20th time

1:00:52

I’ve started recording this video, because

1:00:53

it has to begin with the phrase that

1:00:55

I no longer have a YouTube channel, and I no longer

1:00:57

have a VKontakte page, because

1:00:59

someone deleted them today. And our

1:01:03

winner: 45 points and half a million

1:01:06

rubles go to the city of Saratov,

1:01:08

because that’s where the channel

1:01:10

“Interjections of Politics” is based. They already have 57,000

1:01:14

subscribers, and it should be much

1:01:16

more—they’re genuinely very cool.

1:01:19

I hope our prize and our support

1:01:22

will inspire the guys, and they’ll become even better.

1:01:25

This is what real urban

1:01:27

problems look like. This is Saratov: they built

1:01:30

an embankment, then a fire truck drove over it,

1:01:32

and this is what happened. The answer to the question of why

1:01:38

this is so important is simple:

1:01:40

just remember what was happening with Russian

1:01:41

media, the news media, two years ago or a year ago, and

1:01:44

what is happening now. And the answer is: everything has gotten

1:01:47

much, much worse—and it will get worse.

1:01:49

As Sergey

1:01:51

Smirnov likes to say in this studio, that’s because we can see that

1:01:55

the destruction of the media, repression against the media, is one of the

1:01:59

priorities of state policy. This

1:02:01

law about declaring everyone

1:02:02

foreign agents—now they’re going to

1:02:05

shut down all of them, all those—I don’t know—

1:02:09

TV companies or those who broadcast on

1:02:11

the internet, anyone who is in one way or another connected to

1:02:13

some kind of

1:02:14

foreign money. Or they’ll try—I have no doubt—to shut down

1:02:17

some good,

1:02:19

essentially Russian media outlets

1:02:21

that are simply based abroad,

1:02:23

like Meduza.

1:02:24

I have no doubt that they will pressure these

1:02:27

media outlets, they will destroy them.

1:02:29

As for television—even

1:02:30

internet television has practically

1:02:32

ceased to exist, even in the regions.

1:02:34

There’s almost nothing left. Not long ago there was, say,

1:02:36

something in Krasnoyarsk,

1:02:38

and television there was completely crushed. And the role

1:02:40

of YouTube channels, for all their drawbacks—I

1:02:42

understand, this isn’t real television,

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it’s kind of makeshift and underground, and just people

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talking heads speaking into a camera,

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saying some strange things, and fairly

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obvious ones too, joking with pictures the way

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I do—but its role will

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grow, because it will be

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the only source of information,

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the only source of truthful speech. And

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what’s very important is that these people on the internet, on

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YouTube channels, are not afraid. Unlike

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many journalists,

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even good journalists, they are not constrained

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by this fear, by attachment to

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an editorial office, by fear of lawsuits.

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That’s why it’s very important to encourage things like this.

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As best I can, I try to encourage them,

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and I will keep encouraging them. That’s why I’m raising

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this one million rubles. You can

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take part—check my blog,

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there’s also a Yandex Wallet, you can send money there too

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so that these three

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winners can receive this money, so that

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they can build new studios and do

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better work. And going forward, we’ll keep

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encouraging everyone, because we can beat this

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television machine, beat Putin’s ratings,

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we can do it, and we can do it very

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effectively. But for that, we need

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tools, and a YouTube channel is

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one of the most important tools of this

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kind. That’s why I’ve supported all this, and

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I will continue to support it. Many thanks to all

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512 channels that took part in it.

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the competition, and I warmly congratulate everyone

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the winners, and especially the three finalists

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thank you very much, I’ve already gone over

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the time. Thank you for watching, and I

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hope I answered some of your questions. I

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did. See you next Thursday, bye

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