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Hello everyone, it's 20:18, and Alexei is in the studio.

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Navalny, or the opposition-minded

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gentleman, as Natalia called me.

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Poklonskaya was very sweet about it — she took offense at

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a photograph that I posted — or rather, not at

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the photograph itself. I'll show it to you, and also

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the caption I wrote for the photograph.

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She was expecting Nicholas II, but all she got was

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Vladimir Putin. That caption offended her, it

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was the caption, and she said that this

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opposition gentleman mentioned in vain

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Emperor Nicholas II, who has been canonized

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as a saint and is revered throughout the

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Orthodox world. Well, that's simply

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not true. I do not revere Nicholas II at all,

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not in the slightest, although of course

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I probably do belong to the Orthodox world.

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Natalia Poklonskaya will have to take into account

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that there are people in Russia who do not

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revere

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either Nicholas II or, for that matter,

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Vladimir Putin, our new tsar.

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The one we all protested against

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on the fifth. Well done,

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everyone. I wrote on the cups: everyone

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did great, truly everyone did great, and I'm proud

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of everyone who came out on the fifth. It was very

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cool, it was wonderful. I may be tried

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over it, but I do not regret for a

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second that

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I took part in that action. It wasn't that hard

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for me — it was easy for me to

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take part in it. True, I had to go through

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a whole comic operation involving how I

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ran from the police the day before, who were

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watching me very closely. In recent

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days, about twenty people were tailing me,

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really — just like in the movies, all kinds of

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surveillance.

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Ketchup, a safe apartment —

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and then I ended up at the rally. My time at the rally

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lasted ten or fifteen minutes,

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which, all in all,

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was more than at the previous rally, and I'm glad

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I was there. I'm glad I was among those

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people who came out at that moment and

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said: he is no tsar over me. Because what

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the political struggle consists of now, guys,

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is not half the country against

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the other half, Russians against Russians, nor is it

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30 percent democrats against

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70 percent of these Putinists or non-

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democrats. No, that's not how it is at all. Political

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struggle is never

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a confrontation between some kind of

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main forces in society, as if the people had split into

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two parts and one opposes the other. No.

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There is

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a tiny percentage of true Putinists,

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the genuine ones, who make money from it,

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who receive direct

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benefit. They seized power, and through

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control of the police, the judicial

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system, and the media, they stupefy all

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the rest of the population. And then there is us, a fairly

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large group of people to whom all this

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is unacceptable. And the task of the Putinists

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is what?

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To tell the people: guys, look,

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everything is wonderful, everyone is happy with what's

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happening, everyone is greeting the new tsar.

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There is only one group

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— not dissatisfied people, but those who are slightly

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out of tune.

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That's the parliament of Chechnya. They are unhappy

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with the fact that everyone is merely greeting the tsar — they

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want to lick his boots. They have now introduced

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a bill saying: let's

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allow Putin — not the president, but Putin —

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to serve three consecutive terms. That is the only

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kind of dissatisfaction. That is the message broadcast by

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the authorities. We are broadcasting a completely

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different message: we come out and say to the authorities,

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to society, and to ourselves: no, this will not do.

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This will not do, this will never stand, and we

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will never agree to it. In Russia there are

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enough people who

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refuse to recognize this monarchy, who

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refuse to kiss the boots of this

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government. In Russia there are enough

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people who will never tolerate

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this rule of thieves. And in 60 cities our

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action took place, yes.

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And in fact, for the first time

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in all of modern Russian history, we

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saw the authorities use violence on

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such a scale. I mean,

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what happened in Moscow and in

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St. Petersburg was a partially forceful

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dispersal that probably even in

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scale exceeded what happened on May 6, 2012.

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And of course there was that whole story

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with those Cossacks (members of a traditional paramilitary-style community), which I will talk about separately

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in a moment. But one way or another, we

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fulfilled our main task. As a citizen,

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as a citizen,

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I said this on the previous program:

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what I wanted from myself, from myself personally, was simply

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this: let me do it. I came, I went out, and

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I saw around me a huge number of

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other people who had also simply

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come there to stand for a while so that

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they would not feel ashamed before their own conscience.

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So once again, huge respect to

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all of you.

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You are the country's only hope — those who

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came out. Because many people do support you,

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many people support us,

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but for various reasons they are afraid,

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they are apprehensive, or something else. And in fact,

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that is exactly what everything this

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government does is aimed at. It wants those who

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might potentially come out to think: well, no,

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I could be detained. And then to think: well,

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no, I could be fined. And now they are

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saying: let's make them

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even more afraid, so they think: no.

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Some Cossacks could beat me up there.

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They could come and beat me up, and that’s how they

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intimidate people. Unfortunately, there is a certain

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number of people who do get scared,

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who are afraid, think about their circumstances, and look for all sorts of

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excuses.

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They say:

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“What about me? I’ve got my grandmother,

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or I might have to go to an anniversary celebration, or

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a barbecue, or maybe the dill hasn’t

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been planted yet. Of course, I’m with them in spirit,”

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“I really want to, damn it, but the potatoes,”

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“need to be planted at the dacha (country house).” So they look for some

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pretext. That doesn’t necessarily mean

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they’re bad people or outright cowards, but let’s say

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they’re simply not brave enough

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to invest some part of themselves in

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defending their own country. Those who

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came out and were ready to do that are the best

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people in Russia—I say that without any irony—and

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no Cossacks are going to scare them, of course. I

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should say a couple of words about this,

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about this strange business, because, well,

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to be honest, it made an impression on me,

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because at first

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I didn’t even notice it. I got to Pushkinskaya Square

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from the side of the Pushkin monument.

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I arrived there by taxi,

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rather discreetly, from the other side,

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walked up from the side street, and didn’t see any

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trouble at all. Then suddenly—look—people are running,

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men are swinging those nagaikas (Cossack whips),

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shouting something—it was a real brawl,

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and I immediately had a complete

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flashback to what happened to us in Anapa

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when we were there in May

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just on a trip, basically.

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At the same time, we held a strategic

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session of the Anti-Corruption Foundation

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in some rather remarkable interiors

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in Krasnodar Krai, and in Anapa there was

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a very similar situation: a huge

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number of half-drunk

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men, unshaven and clearly long unwashed, and they were there

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shouting,

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all kinds of things, right in front of

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the police, in the main square by the airport,

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and they attacked us there too.

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And naturally, to this day there is neither

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a criminal case nor anything else. What you’re

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seeing now in the video loop

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we analyzed frame by frame, truly

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in real time, and by now there will be

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13 crime reports filed regarding the actions of

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police officers and these so-called

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Cossacks. We understand perfectly well

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that the authorities themselves brought them there, and they

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will not punish them. But for us it is important

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to understand and document all of this, because

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sooner or later, sooner or later,

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every one of these people will most definitely

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be punished. They are relatively young,

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so they’ll live to see it. We’ll abolish all statutes

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of limitations and lock them all up—it doesn’t matter

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how old they are—those who

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were directly involved there, and most

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importantly, those who directed them. There is already a lot of footage now;

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we have footage showing how

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they were gathered in advance at Mayakovskaya Square,

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briefed there, and at Pushkinskaya Square

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they were also assembled and instructed in advance.

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There are officials from

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the Moscow city government responsible for this, there are police officers

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who covered for them, and of course there are

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people in the Kremlin who decided all of this.

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We will identify all of these people, and for that

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we are now beginning the initial work. Sooner

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or later, everyone will be identified, and everyone

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will cry

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bitter tears before the judge, saying,

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“Guys, forgive us, we were deceived,” or “we were

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forced,” or “we were bribed.” But we all must

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simply never forget this.

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As for

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this—I can see there is an ongoing

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discussion: are they Cossacks or not? And in

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Krasnodar Krai, by the way, real Cossacks regularly

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take part in our events, and Cossacks

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come to our campaign office. So don’t

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tell me that all these people are

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tarred with the same brush. These are quite different

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communities, in essence. These louts

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who showed up in Moscow—what are they, really?

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Come on, this is basically a private security

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company—the so-called all-Russian movement

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of crooks that calls itself Cossacks.

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And in every city in the country we simply see

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some kind of

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antisocial elements—men

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who weren’t even accepted into the police,

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so they sign up for these so-called Cossacks.

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There is always some chief crook there, and

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in this particular case it’s some

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former FSB general who simply

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wanted to make money, plain and simple.

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That’s all.

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He created a private security company

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in order to get contracts. It was easier for him

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that way

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to get state-funded contracts, budget money.

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Naturally, all of this is dressed up in

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patriotic packaging: “we will revive

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the Cossacks,” and so on. They recruited a bunch of louts,

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gave them sheepskin hats,

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and went off to demand budget money from

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the Moscow city government and the Russian government.

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And they got that budget money. They

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got a contract from Moscow to guard the courts,

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they got money from the Ministry

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of Culture, they got money from the Moscow city

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government for organizing

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some kind of training camps, and all the rest of it.

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And I can say, by the way,

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as someone who, well,

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spent most of the fifth with

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the police—after I was detained

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and then sat at the police station for probably ten hours,

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I can say that the police officers there did not

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They don’t really like this whole thing very much.

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Of course, they defend it, but they understand that this is

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a police function: to protect people from these

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vagrants and hooligans—but

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they don’t really like it, because

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it amounts to a kind of erosion of the monopoly on

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violence. A police officer says: well, sure, I

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can hit someone over the head with a baton,

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but there’s another side

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to this pleasant fact that the state

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has allowed me to hit someone with a baton

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over the head: I could, for example, be jailed, or

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if you file a complaint, I have to write a report,

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and anyway, if I detain you, I

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have to fill out paperwork, I have to

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do something.

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My boss can reprimand me, I have

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irregular hours, and right now I’m

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stuck here until they tell us

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we’re dismissed—the entire 2nd Operational Regiment

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has to sit in buses and wait. And

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these guys—what, they couldn’t get into the police? They’re just

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some louts, vagrants, but they’ve got

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whips—unbelievable. They can also beat

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everyone left and right and bear no

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responsibility. So those who say

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that this whole

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idea of these people attacking others

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is somehow supported by the entire government, or

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even by a large part of this kind of pro-

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Putin public—that’s simply not true. But

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Maksim Shevchenko

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—well, our path downward, the path downward—just

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right before the program, in the last election

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he did support the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but he is undoubtedly

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someone who consistently

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supports our authorities. And today he

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made a real statement: he resigned

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from the Human Rights Council as a sign

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of protest against the fact that there has been no

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investigation into what happened on May 5 in

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Moscow. And I can see that even many

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government representatives have reacted

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very nervously to this, because

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this is the kind of thing where the authorities

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start hiring not even formal

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groups, but just semi-drunk people

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and licensing them to use violence,

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saying: yes, you may beat certain people.

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Well then tomorrow they may do all sorts of things—we

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understand that their

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motives are mostly not ideological at all; they

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just want to make money. They’d rather

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loot a liquor store much more

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than break up some

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demonstration. That’s roughly what this whole story is about.

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And in conditions where our

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state is deformed, broken—where somewhere

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some crooked former FSB general

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commands some kind of force units,

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and here there are police, and there

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an active FSB general, and here some

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other security structures—but in the end

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this will lead to

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the emergence of—not exactly

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small armies, but in a crisis

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situation it’s obvious whom these

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so-called Cossacks will work for:

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whoever gives them more money,

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whoever brings a suitcase of cash to this

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former FSB man who organized them—

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that’s who they’ll work for, always. More than that,

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in my view, all it takes is for the former

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one to get a suitcase of cash and tell his

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ragtag men in fur hats: go break up that

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demonstration over there. And then some

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mid-level boss gets offered

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more money, and they go break up

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that other demonstration. That’s exactly how this works.

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We have seen this repeatedly

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in our country’s history, and

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specifically, including with this very

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notorious Cossack movement. So

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we should treat this as something unpleasant.

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Of course, we need to approach it

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philosophically and understand that the authorities

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have nothing else

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they can do to strengthen themselves

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except disperse us. Well, okay.

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The Chechen parliament introduced some

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bill—that may please them, of course, but

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it does nothing directly to strengthen their power.

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What they need is to suppress

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everyone who is against them, everyone who says

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anything against them. So of course, throughout

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Putin’s next six years, they will

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keep doing this with one degree or another of

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aggressiveness. Yes, of course. Our task

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is simply not to be afraid, simply not to be afraid.

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There is no other recipe here,

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no other method or anything else. We need

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to work to ensure that more and more

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people come out to these rallies. Alex RM

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asks me: “Alexei, good evening, what

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do you think about holding a protest during

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the World Cup? Formally, during

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the World Cup, to hold a protest

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you need permission from the FSB. There is no

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ban as such, but they passed a

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law that is absolutely unconstitutional,

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in my view, under which you must

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obtain additional permission from the FSB.

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For us, that makes no difference at all.

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They don’t give us any permits anyway,

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so if there is a reason, I see

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no problem with holding protests during

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the World Cup. After all, we are not

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holding protests in order to

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interfere with the World Cup—that would be

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unacceptable. But if it is a protest for our rights,

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then why not? A huge, huge

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thank you, of course, to everyone—

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the campaign staff, all our volunteers, our

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coordinators—they organized all of this

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in 60 cities. Despite all the pressure, we

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had several people arrested before

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the rallies, and now two more people have been arrested there,

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and seven people are awaiting trial as of yesterday.

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literally, the coordinator of our headquarters in Ufa

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and yesterday, on the 9th, Lilia Chanysheva

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the young woman was arrested for 30 days, but what happened in

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Ufa

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but everyone did great, once again, it was amazing

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successful, and the marches too—so now they want

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to take revenge

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they want to show that they need to somehow

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crack down on

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just like they did with Katya, and that’s why Chanysheva was hit with

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30 days—our coordinator there

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Fyodor Telin was jailed too; they gave him

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twenty-five days. In Chelyabinsk, a person

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got 25 days. Right now, ahead of us are

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Tyumen, a court hearing in Perm—there will be a trial there as well

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it’s clear: they’re afraid. They have identified

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us as the only real troublemakers

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disturbing the peace. Look, the elections were held recently

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where are the presidential candidates now, and what

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everything’s supposedly fine—but what about Grudinin, the candidate from

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the people? What action is he organizing? Where is

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Grigory Yavlinsky? What actions has he

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called for, I mean

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in preparation for the inauguration? But after all, he

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said, "I do not recognize these elections"

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you would think there would be some kind of

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public activity—authorized or

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unauthorized—something. One percent voted for you,

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so somehow

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work with that one percent. Nobody

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is doing anything, nobody is doing anything

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that’s why they are pressuring us as

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the only truly existing

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political structure. But I am sure that in

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our movement, all our people are good, honest, brave, and

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unbending. That’s why I believe in our organization

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I am confident, I am confident that despite this

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latest wave of pressure, all our people will

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hold firm; our network across the country will stand

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help us, join us, and

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together we will fight back. It’s very

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funny—I saw their comments, all those

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pro-Putin people explaining to themselves

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why, on May 5, people came out across the country

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but they were hoping for some kind of failure

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because they live in a world where they believe they have already

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scared everyone

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and that no one would come to an unauthorized protest

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right? In their minds, they have a button: declare a protest

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unauthorized, and we will all immediately

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get scared and stay away. And they believed that, and

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then after May 5 they were baffled

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discussing why people came out after all

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on May 5. My prize for the best

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explanation goes to one of my

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favorite organizations—in principle, they

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would always win prizes: the Putin Squads

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who came out with an official

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explanation of why people were going to the

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protests on the fifth, and they said that

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Navalny was handing out food

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rations

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from his warehouse in Mytishchi. Let’s

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watch 1 minute and 22 seconds of pure

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delight

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of this story about the rations. Come on—here it is, Boykov

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for Navalny’s young supporters

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Mytishchi

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according to our information, the headquarters of this whole thing

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is located there, and that is exactly where

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the food packages are assembled. What do they include?

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why, this notorious and widely known

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there’s even something about a truckload of oil

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sunflower oil

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yes, by the way, someone called about that too

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Here’s what I want to say, dear

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Putin Squads: if I were handing out, in exchange for

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taking part in protests,

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tea bags, packaged

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buckwheat, rice, and canned meat

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you, the Putin Squads, would be running to my rallies

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in the front rows, because people who

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sign up for organizations like that

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would sell their own

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mother for free food

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because if I were handing out some kind of

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food packages, all the inhabitants of

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these pro-Putin dens—it would be worse than

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all the Cossacks (paramilitary-style pro-government groups). Some

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normal people came out on the 5th to Pushkinskaya Square

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and then suddenly a rumor spread that

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Navalny was giving away free food, and crowds of

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these pro-Putin people would come running, sweeping everything

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out of their way, trampling people

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in search of free rice and buckwheat

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so no, we are not handing it out—not

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only because we do not have the money for it

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and no desire to do it, but also

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because we do not want to see you at

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our rallies. And I am getting a lot of

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questions about—I see there was a comment

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saying, "Damn it, you’re cutting corners on us—where

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is the 700 grams of buckwheat?" asks Kamenkov

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Yura. Well, Yura, you didn’t get any

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buckwheat. A lot of people are asking me about

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the new bill that

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United Russia introduced today on

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liability for involving

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minors in

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rallies. They once again saw that

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quite a lot of young people—students and

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schoolchildren—are coming, and once again they

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got worked up and

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started trying to fight it. You remember

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a year ago, after March 26, they began

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going through all the schools, universities, vocational colleges

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and so on, telling everyone how good Putin is

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and how bad Navalny is. Now they are

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trying to introduce administrative

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liability for this as well. It seems to me that

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the best thing said on this subject

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was by Yevgeny Roizman, the mayor

23:18

of Yekaterinburg, who commented on the whole

23:19

situation and said: well then, let’s

23:21

ban everything altogether, and let

23:23

schoolchildren then, in principle, should

23:28

to accept themselves as slaves by default. As for me,

23:31

I feel more or less the same way about all of this.

23:33

When I was detained, there was also

23:35

a young guy detained along with me.

23:38

They detained us, dragged us onto a bus, and then when

23:42

we had already arrived at the police station,

23:43

I found out he was 15 years old. From his appearance, I would have

23:46

said he was about 22 — he looked completely grown-up.

23:48

He was 15, and they let him go there without

23:51

drawing up a report; his parents came to pick him up.

23:53

I talked to him, and he

23:57

was already like me. At 15, I wasn’t like that.

24:02

Not the same as I am now, of course — maybe I was more foolish — but

24:05

I was interested in politics, and I thought about

24:07

my future. It’s just that when I was

24:09

15, Russia’s prospects

24:11

looked completely different from how they do for those who are

24:14

15, 16, 17, or 18 now. So once again,

24:18

I can say absolutely clearly that

24:21

first, I am unquestionably proud that

24:25

young people come to our rallies.

24:28

I am unquestionably proud that I am

24:30

one of those politicians whom

24:33

young people listen to, and whose rallies

24:37

they come out to. I absolutely

24:38

believe that what distinguishes a smart person from

24:43

a foolish one, first and foremost, is that they

24:47

take an interest in politics, in

24:51

how they are going to live, how

24:53

their future will be built, what prospects

24:55

they have in this country. After all,

24:57

they understand very well that no matter how

25:01

well they study, no matter how hard they

25:03

try,

25:04

they have no prospects for a normal life

25:07

in a country called the Russian Federation

25:09

under this government, because their

25:13

salary — just their salary, leaving politics aside —

25:16

will by default be three times

25:19

lower than in any European country.

25:21

Because damn Putin, for example, has strangled

25:24

all these industries, and there are no real

25:27

prospects here.

25:28

Nothing is developing here because

25:29

they have crushed small business, because

25:31

there is no real production here. And if

25:33

a person at 15, 16, 17,

25:35

or 18 understands this, understands that

25:39

for the sake of their own future, they need

25:42

to go to a protest now, then that is a wonderful

25:44

person. I applaud them and say: well, you’re

25:48

smart. You’re going to a protest because you

25:53

can connect two dots, connect A and B.

25:56

That means you’re smarter than any of your

25:59

classmates; you’re smarter than some stupid

26:02

teacher — sorry, but there are teachers like that.

26:04

The entire internet is full of videos of them

26:07

saying: don’t go.

26:08

How can you oppose the authorities?

26:10

You’re not supposed to speak out against the authorities.

26:13

You must accept everything, you must

26:16

bow to them, you must agree with them completely. You’re

26:19

small.

26:20

You must be a slave. When you get older,

26:24

you’ll be an older slave, and then you’ll become

26:26

an adult, good, fully-fledged slave

26:29

who will slave away for this

26:31

state, paying unimaginable

26:33

Russian taxes, and they’ll tell you:

26:35

you’re paying far too little. Then you retire,

26:38

and become an impoverished slave. If there are

26:41

people who, at a young age, say:

26:43

no, I already don’t want to be any kind of

26:46

slave. I want to be a normal human being, and

26:48

I don’t understand why, in modern Russia,

26:51

we should have to live in poverty — that is

26:54

a wonderful person, and I am proud that

26:57

schoolchildren and students are coming out.

27:00

I see that in fact, in large numbers, it’s not just

27:02

students coming out — not just some kind of

27:04

spoiled rich kids, owners of

27:07

iPhones, or students from the best schools and

27:10

the best universities. Kids from

27:12

technical colleges are coming, kids from

27:14

vocational schools are coming too, because it’s the same

27:17

for them — they really understand it. For

27:20

me, this is a breakthrough: that we were able

27:22

to explain these things — or rather, no,

27:25

that’s not quite right, not that I managed to explain them. I’m not

27:29

inclined to think that it means I’m somehow so

27:32

smart and opened young people’s eyes. No, apparently

27:34

some kind of generational shift has happened

27:36

in which schoolchildren, students, young people

27:40

in general have simply become better at understanding this. I

27:42

probably didn’t understand it at their age, or

27:44

understood less. But now they, regardless

27:47

of what university they attend, regardless of whether

27:49

their parents are rich or poor, understand

27:51

these things better — they’ve felt them more deeply.

27:53

And it’s really great that they have felt that.

27:56

So it seems to me that any attempts by

27:58

United Russia (the ruling political party) to try to

28:02

crush

28:03

this sense of freedom and dignity inside

28:06

a young person will come to nothing. We’ll

28:09

see, of course.

28:10

To do this, the state will

28:12

lie twice as much, deceive you twice as much,

28:15

there will be twice as much brainwashing every day.

28:19

But will they be able to strip away the sense of

28:23

dignity from these people who are now

28:24

coming out to protest? I don’t think so. Well,

28:26

we’ll see how it goes. At the very least,

28:28

I will do everything I can to fight, on the other side,

28:30

against this brainwashing.

28:34

We finished the rally on the fifth. Send me

28:37

your questions on Twitter, and I’ll

28:39

keep responding on this topic throughout 2018.

28:43

Here’s a question from toupper

28:46

harley: Good evening, Alexei, what do you think

28:49

Russia will look like at the end of Putin’s new term?

28:51

Dear toupper harley, the inauguration

28:55

that has just taken place already perfectly shows

28:58

what kind of

29:01

joyless country Russia will be by the end

29:04

of Putin’s new term, because

29:06

the inauguration itself was bleak, joyless, and

29:07

made it clear that there would be no meaningful change.

29:09

This was a very significant event.

29:12

Very important and very symbolic.

29:16

For me, this event was simply

29:19

filled with explanations,

29:22

clarifications about what will happen next, how

29:26

the country will function—there, quite literally,

29:28

every second, every

29:31

minute, something was happening that

29:33

was telling us how everything would be arranged

29:35

going forward. But look at how it all began.

29:38

Putin arrived in a car from the Cortege series.

29:44

It’s a special kind of car that

29:48

everyone looked at and thought, oh, some kind of

29:50

Rolls-Royce. But this isn’t just

29:53

some Rolls-Royce-style thing.

29:56

It’s 12 billion rubles (about $190 million at the time) that were

30:00

allocated to a special program

30:03

to create a presidential limousine.

30:06

A limousine, understand? In Russia, where people

30:11

raise money for medicine through

30:13

charity foundations, where children’s operations

30:15

are financed through

30:17

charity foundations, they allocated 12

30:19

billion rubles (about $190 million) to build this thing,

30:22

and this vehicle during

30:25

the inauguration, as we later found out,

30:27

drove only 200 or 300 meters (about 220–330 yards) because

30:30

because

30:30

they were afraid to let it go

30:33

all the way from Novo-Ogaryovo to the Kremlin

30:36

because apparently they were afraid it wouldn’t make it.

30:39

So that’s how it is—business as usual, they spent 12

30:42

billion rubles.

30:43

This supercar can’t even drive 200

30:46

meters, meaning for most of the trip

30:47

Putin rode in his Mercedes Pullman,

30:49

and the last few hundred meters

30:51

he rode in this thing.

30:53

Well, just to somehow, at least a little, explain

30:55

where those 12 billion rubles went.

30:58

And of course, for those who watch

31:01

television, to pull the wool over their eyes—oh,

31:04

look, he arrived in a domestically made

31:06

car. No, he did not arrive in a

31:09

domestic car—he arrived on

31:11

12 billion stolen rubles, and that is

31:15

once again a perfect symbol of what

31:18

is to come. People were asking what would happen during

31:21

this term, during this Putin

31:24

presidential term. Russia, unfortunately,

31:27

will continue throwing away our

31:30

enormous sums on meaningless,

31:33

stupid projects like this Cortege. We

31:36

will spend tens of billions of rubles

31:38

on all sorts of, excuse my language, crap that will

31:42

lead to nothing except that it can

31:45

be shown on television as

31:46

some kind of propaganda effect.

31:48

We’ve seen Rogozin-style

31:50

robots, these Skolkovo (Russia’s state-backed tech hub) things,

31:54

that dachshund they dunked underwater—you remember.

31:57

That’s the kind of thing they’ll keep doing.

32:01

Huge amounts of money will be thrown away, and

32:05

that money will give us absolutely

32:08

nothing. The next thing is also very,

32:13

very symbolic. Now I’m going to show you 31

32:16

seconds from Putin’s inaugural speech.

32:18

It outraged many people, but when I

32:23

watched it, I thought: my God, how he

32:24

decided to send such a truthful signal about

32:28

what this would mean.

32:30

These 31 seconds are the single most important quote.

32:35

Putin, in his inaugural speech: “We need

32:38

breakthroughs

32:39

in all spheres of life. I am deeply convinced

32:43

that such a leap

32:44

can be ensured only by a free

32:46

society that embraces everything new

32:49

and everything advanced,

32:49

and rejects injustice, stagnation,

32:53

reactionary backwardness,

32:55

and bureaucratic deadness—all that

32:59

binds people, prevents them from fully

33:02

unfolding, from realizing themselves and their talents,”

33:04

“and therefore limits the country’s drive

33:07

toward the future.” This man

33:12

just recently, with budget money—well, two

33:15

days ago, with budget money—deployed

33:18

the very symbol of backwardness

33:21

and reactionary conservatism. He simply opened

33:22

a history textbook and looked at what, over

33:25

the last hundred years, in the historical

33:28

memory of anyone who has read that

33:32

history textbook, is a symbol of

33:34

reactionary repression. Ah yes—drunken,

33:37

unshaven men with beards and

33:40

whips dispersing students in the cities.

33:44

That is the symbol of backward, reactionary repression.

33:46

And after that, he and his speechwriters

33:50

included in the speech this part about how only

33:53

a free society can achieve

33:56

breakthroughs, and we must not follow the path of

33:59

reactionary backwardness. Everyone said,

34:01

my God, what a liar, what a hypocrite. And I said:

34:04

thank you.

34:06

It’s clear to us—we understood the signal.

34:10

The hint could not have been clearer.

34:13

It is clear to us that Putin said that in the

34:16

course of the

34:17

next six years, of course, there will be

34:20

no breakthrough at all, because a breakthrough,

34:24

as Putin himself understands—he said it—is

34:27

connected with freedom.

34:28

A breakthrough is connected with something new, but nothing

34:31

new will happen, because I rely on

34:34

reactionary backwardness.

34:35

And there simply won’t be one, exactly like that. Besides,

34:38

I will continue lying in every word and

34:44

being hypocritical in every sentence—that is what

34:47

that part of the inaugural speech symbolized.

34:49

It’s very clear: over the next six

34:52

years they will lie twice as much, be seven

34:57

times more brazen, and today they will do

35:00

one thing, and tomorrow they will do the complete

35:03

opposite. That was a very important

35:05

part of the inauguration. But what came next?

35:08

One of the most widely quoted

35:12

promises the next day was

35:14

Putin has signed new May decrees.

35:16

He said that Russia would enter the top five

35:20

largest economies in the world, and everyone was like, well,

35:25

the small remaining share of independent media

35:28

in Russia, and people who still have at least

35:31

a little memory, said:

35:33

Good grief, what on earth is this?

35:37

Over the past 11 years, he has said this six times

35:41

literally, literally in almost every

35:46

major speech of his,

35:48

in inauguration speeches,

35:52

before parliament, before the Federal

35:54

Assembly, at every kind of gathering where

35:58

he gathered his entourage and, in

36:00

large numbers, had them brought in

36:02

to appear on live broadcast. He says that

36:04

in the near future, over the coming years,

36:07

Russia will make it into the top five

36:10

economies in the world. It won’t. It hasn’t over

36:15

these 11 years while he has been promising it, and it

36:18

won’t, of course. And, well, do you really think

36:21

that Putin is so far gone that he forgot

36:24

that he has promised this many times? But

36:27

after all, he does read what they give him so that he

36:30

whatever kind of mental disconnect he may have, or

36:33

then there’s the popular version that there are doubles, not just one.

36:35

However many there may be,

36:38

each of those doubles has already, several

36:41

times, promised that Russia would enter the top five

36:45

largest economies, so each of

36:47

them must at some meeting

36:49

have said, well, how can we possibly

36:51

keep promising this? People will laugh at us. But

36:54

that wasn’t the signal they were supposed to get. The proper signal was

36:57

to explain that over the next

36:59

six years we will be fed promises that are knowingly

37:03

impossible to fulfill. And the economy—

37:06

the economy of the state of California is larger than

37:10

Russia’s economy. Naturally, there can be no

37:13

entry into the top five largest economies

37:15

in the world without new technologies,

37:19

without development. None of that exists. See

37:22

the previous point about backward, archaic conservatism

37:24

.

37:25

What exactly will get us into the top five largest

37:28

economies? I mean, we have to overtake

37:30

someone to get into the top five. Someone is

37:32

currently in fifth place, someone in sixth,

37:36

and we’re somewhere around seventh or eighth. We

37:39

have to push someone out to get into the top five.

37:42

And by means of what, exactly? Please tell me—by

37:44

selling

37:45

Cossack whips, sheepskin hats, or

37:48

chrome leather boots? No, those are not the

37:52

drivers of economic growth that

37:54

could get you there. So this too

37:56

was an important part of the inauguration:

37:58

it explained that nothing is going to happen here.

38:00

There will just be more nice promises.

38:02

And of course, the thing that finished everyone off, especially

38:06

United Russia members, though I had no doubt that

38:09

Medvedev would be reappointed—I got

38:11

enormous pleasure from it.

38:14

I mean, I just completely relaxed and enjoyed it.

38:17

I specifically went on Twitter and read

38:19

the accounts of all those Putin supporters, what

38:22

they were writing about Medvedev’s appointment. There was

38:24

howling: “Vladimir Vladimirovich, how could

38:28

you? We had such hopes for you. You’re so

38:30

cool, so strong, and you break up rallies,

38:33

too,”

38:34

“and you’re ready to start a war, and in Syria too,”

38:37

“and you fight all these enemies,”

38:41

“so how could you appoint that Medvedev again?”

38:44

Well, he did appoint him.

38:47

He appointed him, dear Putin fans, and

38:50

that perfectly shows that the next six

38:53

years will be just as useless and

38:57

drained out of our lives. And if they sit it out

39:00

to the end, compared with the previous term it will

39:03

be even worse.

39:04

Just look at the composition of the government.

39:07

Golikova was put back in charge of healthcare.

39:10

Golokova was returned to healthcare, and

39:13

she had previously been removed because the whole country

39:16

called her, if you remember,

39:18

“Madam Arbidol,” because during her time

39:22

when she oversaw healthcare,

39:25

she lobbied for her family’s interests.

39:29

There were practically inspections of pharmacies

39:32

to see whether they stocked Arbidol, which is not

39:34

actually a real medicine. It was simply that

39:37

businessmen close to her were pushing it and

39:40

producing it in enormous

39:41

quantities, and it was purchased with budget money.

39:44

Good Lord, there isn’t a clean spot on her record.

39:47

.

39:47

We did an investigation into Golikova and

39:50

her husband, Khristenko, who, by the way, is also a former

39:52

deputy prime minister. Just look at

39:56

Golikova’s house in Pestovo,

39:58

by the Pestovo Reservoir, next to a golf

40:00

course. With what money was all this bought?

40:04

They have both been officials their whole lives. And her home is in

40:09

Ostrov Fantaziy, an elite

40:12

part of Moscow. You can see there that one

40:16

of these properties—there’s no way

40:19

a single building in this super-elite part

40:23

of northwest Moscow

40:24

could belong to Golikova legitimately. We did a special

40:27

breakdown; we calculated what their

40:29

official income was.

40:31

It’s fairly large, though it’s unclear where it comes from,

40:33

but even that official income

40:36

doesn’t come close to matching how much they

40:43

spend. Where does all this come from? And this is the person

40:47

they are dragging back into healthcare, supposedly to help

40:50

those very people who stand there

40:53

counting their money, elderly women standing in pharmacies

40:56

trying to buy some medicine, who

40:59

stand in these enormous lines, who

41:01

if, God forbid, they are diagnosed with

41:04

some kind of cancer,

41:06

know that getting treatment for free

41:09

usually won’t work out for you in most

41:12

cases. In most cases, of course,

41:14

it may be free there in Moscow, in a wealthy

41:17

city, it may be free there, in

41:20

in the region, never — I mean, for free, yes.

41:22

I mean, you could just end up dying very

41:24

quickly. Everyone knows that, and this man

41:27

will be put in charge of healthcare.

41:30

Oh God, by now even everyone — even Vladimir

41:34

Solovyov

41:35

was cursing Mutko out, I remember, shouting there

41:38

about when he would finally resign.

41:40

They appointed him, and it was, of course, an astonishing кадровый choice.

41:43

When Medvedev says that we

41:48

are going to appoint Mutko — there’s this little

41:49

thought — and United Russia members laugh because

41:53

what other reaction could there be? Maybe

41:55

they didn’t believe it for a few seconds. Let’s

41:57

watch it. It’s 40 seconds, but

42:02

57 seconds, but it’s wonderful, I think.

42:09

There is another interesting idea that

42:14

exists: taking into account experience and taking into account

42:19

personal characteristics, while at the same

42:23

time bearing in mind that we try

42:28

never to bend under external

42:32

circumstances.

42:33

There is a proposal to appoint

42:37

Vitaly Mutko as deputy prime minister so that

42:41

he can deal with construction issues

42:45

as well as regional policy.

42:51

He is an experienced man; let me remind you, he worked in

42:56

the region, in St. Petersburg.

43:03

For them, it sounds like a joke.

43:06

He’s just like that — he says it all so slowly,

43:08

speaks as if he’s actually

43:09

telling a joke, building it up,

43:12

building it up, and then suddenly — bang — the punchline:

43:15

“in the field of construction,” and then, still, ha-ha

43:18

ha — Mutko in construction.

43:20

This is the government of a country where

43:24

145 million people live, and he says that

43:27

we’ve now taken the most pointless

43:29

idiot

43:30

you could possibly imagine,

43:32

who failed at everything, who disgraced

43:35

our country before the whole world with these

43:37

“toppings” (a mocking reference to the doping scandal), who just talks

43:39

complete nonsense — and we’re appointing him to

43:41

construction on somebody’s say-so. Let’s

43:43

remember how he was one of the

43:45

overseers of the construction of Zenit Stadium

43:47

Great choice. Of course they

43:51

burst out laughing, because, well, what

43:54

other reaction could there be? But this is the government.

43:57

He’ll have a black Mercedes with a flashing beacon, he’ll

44:03

hold meetings on this

44:05

construction, and among other things he’ll

44:08

be handing out billions, and in the course of this

44:12

construction he’ll wreck and botch

44:15

everything, of course. Thanks to Mutko, Russia will, among other things,

44:20

become even stronger.

44:22

And fall even further behind the top five largest

44:24

economies in the world. Meanwhile, by the way, while we

44:26

were watching this amusing footage, I was

44:28

written to and corrected: “You’re mistaken,”

44:30

“Alexei, Russia has long since stopped competing

44:32

with the state of California in terms of the size

44:34

of its economy — only with the state of New York.”

44:36

They’re not competing with a city yet, but with

44:38

the state of New York.

44:39

So thanks to Mutko, we will all become

44:42

a little poorer, and many will become even

44:46

more destitute.

44:48

They laugh and discuss it there, but anyway,

44:52

an important part — the symbolic part

44:54

of the inauguration — showed what kind of

44:58

government this will be: a government of failure and

45:01

theft. Theft is the key word, you

45:03

think?

45:04

But they’re not appointing Mutko just for laughs.

45:06

Why is Mutko such an unsinkable guy?

45:08

He was sports minister, and he totally

45:11

failed. I mean, what happened with the Olympics?

45:13

How they dragged us through the mud there, rubbed our faces in it

45:16

— all the sports officials — but it was

45:18

just some kind of utter disgrace, with all this

45:20

doping and everything else. They’ve already acknowledged

45:22

a significant part of it officially,

45:25

officially acknowledged it.

45:26

And yet after that he became deputy prime minister. This

45:28

one photograph explains everything. Let’s

45:30

please take a look at the photograph

45:32

with Comrade Mutko.

45:34

Where does his career come from? He’s from

45:38

the St. Petersburg mayor’s office, and if there’s a photo with

45:41

Sobchak (Anatoly Sobchak, former mayor of St. Petersburg), show that one too — even if it’s not in color,

45:43

from who-knows-what year. Mutko is

45:49

unsinkable because they were stealing

45:52

together with Putin

45:53

back in the St. Petersburg mayor’s office, skimming money.

45:57

They sat like this, facing

45:59

each other, pulling out this envelope full of money,

46:01

stuffing it here and there — they were super

46:05

trusted people.

46:07

Putin trusts Mutko like almost no one else.

46:09

They’ve been stealing money

46:13

together for 40 years. I’m 40 — 40, that

46:17

would make it 1976. I’m 40 years old — well, over the

46:19

last 25 years, they could have a coat of arms

46:24

for Putin and Mutko together, with the caption: “25 years

46:27

of stealing money together.” That’s probably a super

46:30

way to describe a person — nothing would offend

46:32

this gang of St. Petersburg officials more.

46:35

After all, they’re mostly people who came out of this

46:37

St. Petersburg mayor’s office — they’re just

46:39

bandits and crooks. Why are they all so tightly

46:43

bound together? Well, because they were

46:45

carving up money back when Putin was arranging

46:49

the sale of precious

46:51

metals in the early 1990s — you know, that famous case.

46:54

It all comes from there. They were all there together

46:57

running their little schemes, and they’re still

47:01

running them now. How could he possibly give up Mutko? How

47:04

could he give up that very

47:05

Vitalik who used to bring him things and say,

47:09

“Vova, here’s your share.” They were dividing it all up into

47:11

their pockets even back then. They’re doing

47:14

the same thing now, and they’ll keep doing the same

47:17

thing. So this is a great symbolic

47:20

thing that showed us just how grandly and

47:24

powerfully they will steal

47:27

during Putin’s new presidential term.

47:30

Therefore,

47:32

it seemed to me that the inauguration, in

47:37

that sense, went very, very successfully

47:41

because it showed us how everything will be. I

47:44

hope—I could probably spend another half hour

47:46

answering that question, but it seems to me

47:48

the cards I’ve been dealt are giving me both

47:50

questions from LR. I’m being asked: what do you

47:52

think about the New Greatness case

47:54

—an FSB provocation, where they jailed very

47:56

young people? I’ve been following this case,

47:57

of course. I believe today they extended

48:00

the detention terms for the older girl there.

48:03

The situation really is, how should I put it,

48:05

outrageous, but as of today it is typical.

48:09

The Center for Countering Extremism

48:14

—that is, a legally existing

48:15

organized criminal group in Russia—

48:17

whose purpose is supposedly to report that it

48:19

is catching some kind of extremists, but in reality

48:20

they themselves organized some people online.

48:23

There were several meetings where

48:27

it wasn’t just a recruited person, but an actual

48:30

undercover employee from the Center, and

48:32

from the case materials it is clear that he himself

48:34

suggested: let’s create this kind of

48:35

organization. He proposed that they adopt

48:38

a charter and everything else. And when they were like, well,

48:40

all right, fine—heard the proposal and resolved to adopt

48:42

the charter,

48:42

he ran off, filed a report, and everyone

48:44

was arrested. They said,

48:45

they created an extremist group, they have

48:48

a charter, look—they even held a meeting there.

48:50

And all of this was organized by the police themselves,

48:53

that is, it was purely a provocation in order to

48:55

simply imprison random, absolutely innocent

48:58

people. But this is how they will operate.

49:00

In the city of Sochi,

49:03

there was also an astonishing

49:05

incident today that shows what

49:08

things will look like in the future.

49:11

Those of you who follow our

49:13

work probably know that in our investigations

49:14

department we have the amazing Georgy

49:16

Alburov, a wonderful person, and

49:20

while he doesn’t work for us full-time, he is our regular

49:22

consultant. And Vladimir Dolnikov, a volunteer activist

49:25

who is now very actively

49:27

involved in the whole situation with

49:28

Telegram, also serves as a consultant on the site,

49:30

one of the, well, leaders of the movement for a free

49:35

internet in Russia. They were in

49:37

Sochi today on various matters and were sitting in a café

49:40

when at some point

49:42

some men approached them—six people—pulled out

49:44

pistols and said—broad daylight, really,

49:47

in a café on the embankment, people come up

49:51

to civilians, pull out weapons, and say:

49:53

you must leave immediately, or we’ll

49:55

take you to the mountains and kill you. Alburov was supposed

49:57

to send a short video—1 minute 20 seconds.

49:59

I haven’t seen it myself yet; I’ll watch it

50:02

with you now, and he’ll tell us what happened.

50:03

Let’s watch. Georgy, can you

50:07

We, together with Dolnikov, are in the city of

50:08

Sochi.

50:09

Today we were having lunch in one

50:12

of Sochi’s cafés when

50:14

about six to eight

50:16

very solid, muscular guys approached us.

50:18

They weren’t Caucasian; they were more like

50:20

the type you’d associate with some kind of special forces.

50:22

Well, we’re here on work-related

50:24

business, and it’s obvious they were tracking us.

50:26

We must have been flagged

50:28

when buying tickets through various systems

50:31

that monitor ticket purchases and

50:33

through cell tower data, and somehow

50:35

they found us in this exact

50:38

specific place. They put pressure on us,

50:40

trying to force us to leave Sochi.

50:42

They said that if we didn’t leave, they would

50:44

take us to the mountains. They displayed weapons

50:47

that they had specifically brought for this.

50:49

They threatened to beat us and generally

50:52

put every kind of pressure on us, threatening

50:54

violent retaliation.

50:55

If we did not leave—which is why we filed

50:58

a complaint against them.

51:00

It states everything as it happened,

51:01

what took place. They did not want to accept it

51:03

at first. They said we had to go to another

51:05

district to file it. Then they said,

51:07

why are you even filing this? No one will

51:09

be found. Then they said that if they were found,

51:11

those people would say that it was we who

51:13

attacked them, and then we’d be jailed. So we

51:15

spent quite a long time persuading the police officers,

51:17

and in the end we did manage to file

51:19

the complaint. So now we’ll wait

51:21

for a response and hope for Russian

51:23

justice—that these people who, in broad

51:26

daylight, threaten people on the streets of Sochi with

51:29

weapons—will be found.

51:32

It’s May, Sochi is in resort season, there is a huge

51:37

police presence, and it is supposed to be

51:39

one of the safest

51:42

cities in Russia at this time. But we

51:44

understand that this is Krasnodar Krai (a region in southern Russia), we

51:46

understand there are certain local peculiarities,

51:48

but still—for six men simply to come up in broad

51:51

daylight with pistols, six

51:53

people, and take away their phones—

51:56

though of course when

51:57

some people come up, pull out a pistol, and I

51:59

know Alburov,

52:00

he still had a phone and started filming all of it.

52:02

They took their phones and said things like, we’ll kill you,

52:06

not stab you—these were

52:08

some Russians, and indeed, judging by everything,

52:10

they were most likely the same police officers,

52:12

anti-extremism officers or FSB guys whom we

52:15

looked up in the database—aha, people have arrived

52:17

to Sochi, so that means they’re up to something,

52:19

that’s all.

52:20

Well, or something like that. This is a threat

52:23

to national security.

52:25

if they expose some kind of product

52:29

well then, look—raise the alarm

52:32

raise the red flags, launch a signal

52:34

flare rocket, the special FSB group

52:37

changes clothes in the armory

52:39

gets weapons and goes to protect these

52:42

these thieves need to be thrown out of Sochi immediately

52:45

and Sochi

52:47

these two troublemakers here

52:49

and off they go, not even embarrassed, with

52:52

pistols—and how can this even be happening?

52:55

could we ever have imagined that

52:58

this would happen so openly? I mean, in Chechnya

53:00

this has been going on for quite a while, and in

53:02

Dagestan something like this can happen, but in

53:06

Sochi

53:08

three years ago it would have been hard to

53:10

imagine

53:11

now it is happening, and again this is about

53:14

how they are going to protect themselves, well

53:19

and by the way, this is already a good

53:23

a good way to understand what

53:25

has become of Russia under today's rule

53:27

the "cursed '90s"—the "cursed '90s"—and you'll get

53:31

an idea of what the "cursed '90s" were like

53:33

it all comes down to roughly this:

53:35

some people in a café with pistols—that is

53:39

what is happening now, and we understand that

53:42

once these people were allowed

53:45

in civilian clothes to show someone

53:47

their weapons, well then in

53:49

a few hours, a few days, or

53:51

under some other circumstances they will

53:54

simply, excuse me, while drunk in some

53:56

similar café, be showing all this to ordinary tourists

53:59

because someone looked at them the wrong way

54:01

or said something wrong—that is exactly how it

54:05

works, and it cannot work any other way

54:08

but if you tell a police officer from above

54:10

to go and do something

54:13

that is criminal, illegal

54:16

that is, to go commit a crime

54:18

and some kind of

54:20

police boss told them to do it

54:22

that a crime can be committed here, then

54:26

next time I am guaranteed to be

54:28

covered for after another crime, because we

54:30

my boss and I are committing

54:33

crimes—one hand washes the other, that's how it

54:36

works. But credit to the people from Dolinka

54:38

for not just quietly leaving

54:41

with their things packed, but instead making the situation

54:43

public

54:45

they went and filed a report

54:48

with the police. I fully understand that this will lead nowhere

54:52

to nothing

54:53

but nevertheless it is an important

54:55

fact—it simply shows that we are not afraid

54:58

well, obviously, when someone is standing there with a pistol

55:01

you won't exactly charge at him, right? He might also

55:02

shoot you and then say that you attacked

55:04

him with a fork. But what matters is not bravado

55:06

whether you're afraid or not, but that at least you're ready

55:07

to make the situation public, because

55:10

from now on, the further this goes, the more for

55:15

any little thing like this, a mayor

55:19

a governor, anyone at all will be after

55:21

you, trying to bring

55:24

criminal charges against you even if there is no

55:26

politics involved. A lot of people sit there and think, well

55:29

okay, that's understandable—he's an obvious enemy

55:31

of the state, from the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation), so against him

55:33

they take such measures. But what does that have to do with me?

55:35

Sure, maybe I'm against the authorities too, but I'm an ordinary

55:37

person, or I'm unhappy about a broken road

55:41

but I'm not political, so nothing will happen to me

55:43

—it won't happen to me. Well, let's see. An interesting

55:45

situation happened in the city of

55:51

Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, in Sakhalin Region

55:53

there, a man was simply unhappy with the road

55:55

and recorded a video. Let's watch these 50

55:57

seconds: on Lenin Street—a new kind of mess

56:02

there it is

56:04

quite something. And well done, they even

56:06

came up with this—nailed it down so the boards wouldn't

56:10

be stolen

56:11

and that's how it is all along Lenin Street

56:16

thanks to our esteemed governor

56:19

every bit of this idiocy

56:25

must have been put together by complete idiots

56:30

a respectful request: please share this video

56:33

maybe our

56:37

esteemed Kozhemyako (the governor) will finally grow a conscience—I don't even

56:40

know what to call him anymore

56:43

what's happening here is just embarrassing

56:47

it shouldn't be like this. Here you are walking on a

56:51

sidewalk like this, right? And do you realize that you live in a

56:54

very rich country? On Sakhalin they extract

56:57

oil and gas there—the region is incredibly rich overall

57:01

in theory, the region ought to be. There are also

57:05

LNG facilities there

57:08

and oil companies there; a huge number of people work there

57:11

extracting

57:15

enormous amounts of money from the land you live on

57:18

and so you walk

57:22

with your own feet on the ground

57:24

under which there is a pile of money; from that

57:27

money people get rich here, yet you are walking along

57:29

a sidewalk like this, through the mud. So what can you

57:31

say about the mayor and governor? But that man

57:33

said it absolutely honestly—we censored it

57:36

so that you wouldn't hear all the

57:38

full honesty, though you can easily find on Twitter

57:40

the uncensored version of this video

57:42

so what did he say wrong? Absolutely

57:44

nothing—he said everything correctly. If in 2018

57:47

in a country that claims it wants to join

57:51

the world's top five economies, a sidewalk like this

57:55

exists and has to be patched with boards or

57:57

whatever it is lying there, then he has every

58:00

right to say so. What happened after

58:03

that?

58:04

Did the mayor, shamed by the public, immediately go

58:11

and pave everything? No. Did the governor immediately

58:14

go there personally and, with

58:17

the regional TV cameras rolling, himself

58:19

pour some gravel and say, 'We'll fix all this

58:22

right away, of course, because'

58:25

It's outrageous, outrageous what's going on—well, he did it.

58:27

He made it look as if he hadn't known about it, and...

58:29

as if he expected the governor to come and fix everything, so he filed

58:33

a complaint with the Investigative Committee (Russia's main federal investigative authority), and

58:35

the Investigative Committee launched an inquiry.

58:37

Because, you see, the crime wasn't that

58:40

someone had done such a terrible job—I'm already

58:42

starting to say it myself—you tell me I need to hold back,

58:43

the crime, supposedly, was that

58:46

a man was walking through the mud, got outraged, and recorded

58:49

it. Yes, he was swearing, but the way you have to swear when you can't

58:51

help swearing—when swearing is exactly what the situation calls for.

58:54

There are simply no other words

58:56

to discuss it. And that, apparently, was his crime: he

58:59

insulted that very governor,

59:01

Oleg Kozhemyako.

59:03

A United Russia party member—meaning, one of the bosses.

59:07

There he sits, with Putin's portrait hanging behind him—well, would you look at that.

59:10

Some [__] serfs, apparently, are unhappy

59:14

that they have to walk there on

59:16

planks laid over the mud. They're unhappy

59:19

that billions are being written off as road-repair spending,

59:21

while all they get is this...

59:24

Throw them in jail—wow. If they start

59:28

opening their mouths against us, that won't lead to anything good,

59:31

either. Look, it's a sign of the times.

59:34

Not that long ago, this would have been impossible.

59:37

Back then, Kozhemyako would have said something like,

59:40

'I don't know, go pay the guy some money

59:41

so he takes that video off the internet.'

59:43

Some PR people would have handled it. But now

59:45

it's different. Now this big red mug

59:48

is a symbol of power.

59:50

You sit there, you've got a party behind you,

59:53

you've basically got a license to steal, so you

59:55

have to crush everyone who's against it.

59:57

That's why people need to go to

1:00:00

rallies. Sorry that I turn every topic into

1:00:02

the same point—but how else? How else?

1:00:06

How else can you protest this except by

1:00:08

spreading it around? The man asked

1:00:10

for this video to be shared, and I honestly

1:00:12

shared it. And now I'm asking you

1:00:14

to share it too. I respond to requests like that.

1:00:15

If they hold a rally, I'll support

1:00:19

that rally, because there is simply no other way

1:00:22

to stand up against this outrage, just

1:00:24

impossible otherwise, because no

1:00:29

other methods work on them anymore. And

1:00:31

our task is simply to gather more and more

1:00:33

people. Let me answer

1:00:35

some questions from Twitter. Alexei,

1:00:38

what about registering the new party?

1:00:39

About party-building?

1:00:41

About expanding with deputies at different levels?

1:00:43

Hold on, you've jumped straight to expansion already.

1:00:46

We're supposed to have a congress on the 19th,

1:00:48

and I will be there—unless I get

1:00:50

locked up tomorrow. If they do

1:00:54

lock me up, then in any case

1:00:55

the congress will still go ahead, and we will continue

1:00:57

to demand registration of our party, although

1:00:59

I understand perfectly well that Putin has

1:01:01

absolutely no desire to register it.

1:01:03

Another question: won't all these arrests

1:01:05

interfere with the party congress?

1:01:07

We understand, and all our coordinators understand,

1:01:10

that they detain us,

1:01:12

they arrest us. That's why we're gathering

1:01:14

people who aren't easily scared,

1:01:17

people who are ready to work with us. As for the elections

1:01:19

in Moscow—what's your view? Someone asks me

1:01:21

something here that's garbled, but anyway,

1:01:25

it was addressed to Navalny—so, regarding

1:01:29

the Moscow mayoral election, I see one candidate

1:01:31

for mayor of Moscow: Yashin, who is actually

1:01:32

doing something and

1:01:34

running quite an active campaign.

1:01:36

He's meeting with volunteers; I was at that

1:01:38

meeting. Good for him, I support that. I see

1:01:41

other candidates who say

1:01:43

they want to take part, but they are doing

1:01:45

nothing, to my great

1:01:48

regret and disappointment. And I keep repeating

1:01:50

my position: as a voter, I demand

1:01:53

primaries.

1:01:54

I demand that everyone who wants to take part

1:01:56

in the Moscow mayoral election and wants

1:01:58

my support as a politician and my

1:02:01

support as an ordinary person—my vote—

1:02:03

must hold a preliminary

1:02:05

vote with debates, so that I can choose

1:02:08

the best one together with you and vote

1:02:10

for that person. That's all. Yashin, by the way,

1:02:12

is also demanding these primaries, but all

1:02:14

the others are not. Alexei, wouldn't you like

1:02:15

to meet with Pashinyan,

1:02:17

asks Aleksandr M.? Well, I would like

1:02:18

to meet with all interesting people,

1:02:20

certainly including Pashinyan, but I

1:02:25

think that, first of all, he has other things

1:02:27

to deal with, and second, any possible meeting

1:02:31

with me would simply be perceived by the Kremlin as—well, they

1:02:33

would go into hysterics. So Pashinyan,

1:02:36

being a sensible person, naturally

1:02:38

understands that one way or another his job

1:02:40

as the country's prime minister is

1:02:42

to build relations with Russia,

1:02:44

regardless of what kind of

1:02:46

government Russia has—you still have to

1:02:48

maintain relations with it. Meeting with me

1:02:50

would be of no use to him in that sense.

1:02:53

What time is tomorrow's show trial?

1:02:56

My show trial is tomorrow at 11—actually, two of them.

1:03:02

Two trials. Tomorrow they'll try me for

1:03:04

disobeying police officers, and they'll also try me

1:03:06

tomorrow for organizing

1:03:11

a rally. On the first charge I face 15 days in jail;

1:03:14

on the second, I face 30 days. Those

1:03:17

could be added together, so overall I could

1:03:18

get 45 days. But honestly, I don't really

1:03:21

understand the logic lately,

1:03:24

because they still haven't tried me yet

1:03:26

for the previous rally.

1:03:28

Usually in a situation like this, they immediately

1:03:31

arrest me, hold the hearing, and send me straight to a special detention center,

1:03:33

but this time they let me go.

1:03:35

I don't understand whether that's because...

1:03:38

to support this Kremlin talking point

1:03:40

Look, they're jailing everyone, but not Navalny

1:03:42

they're not jailing him, so that's why they're doing this

1:03:45

measure—whether it's ahead of

1:03:47

the European Court, I don't know, and it seems to me

1:03:50

it's pointless to speculate

1:03:53

none of this really matters much

1:03:56

naturally, Putin and this whole crowd

1:03:59

are disgusting—they do everything they can

1:04:03

to hold on to power, in order to

1:04:05

go on stealing and have the ability

1:04:07

to punish those who are unhappy with them. Our

1:04:10

task is to resist them

1:04:13

to unite people around us

1:04:14

to persuade people, to campaign. The most important thing is not

1:04:18

the main thing is to be honest people. On May 5, I

1:04:22

tried as best I could to be an honest person

1:04:26

if they put me on trial tomorrow, okay, that means

1:04:29

I'll be tried for trying, at that moment,

1:04:31

to be an honest person. If I could

1:04:34

turn back time to May 5, I

1:04:39

would do exactly the same thing, only I would try

1:04:41

to stay in that square a little longer

1:04:43

together with you. Once again, thank you very much

1:04:45

to everyone who came. See you next

1:04:47

Thursday. Bye

1:04:49

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