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Hello everyone. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, here in the studio of

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Navalny Live. Alexei

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Navalny — or Alexander Lukashenko, as

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businessman Boris Titov called me this week.

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Businessman Boris Titov, who

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is also running for president,

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you can vote for him too — a worthy

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man. With me is my new Christmas

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gadget on top of the Christmas thing — you'll

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see a kind of donation progress bar.

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Today we're raising money to

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pay the fines of those who were unlawfully

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fined for organizing various

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rallies, so don't spare your money.

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Chip in, because later, if you — God forbid —

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get fined, someone will

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send you your 500 rubles (about $5.50) back. We seem

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to have set up a system where I

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can read your questions off the screen,

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so you can ask me questions

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either via Twitter with the hashtag #Navalny

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2018, or through

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this very screen here —

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the question will appear and I'll read it.

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Actually, to be fair, since you've

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paid, I'll probably even read some

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insulting messages or comments

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that you write to me — but only

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if they're fit for broadcast. We don't want

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to get in trouble, and we don't want to upset

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the parents of minors who

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are watching this broadcast. Today I'm in

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an excellent mood, really. Though this morning

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I was in a bad one, because for the last

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few days I've been busy running around

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to banks collecting all sorts of certificates that

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we have to submit to the Central Election Commission,

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about property, accounts, my wife's accounts — all that.

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It's an enormous amount of paperwork, and

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it's incredibly irritating. But

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this evening the news came that

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Artyom Chaika has been added to the American

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sanctions lists, and that's wonderful.

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My friends, it's simply marvelous,

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because Artyom Chaika is absolutely not

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our friend. I want to say right away to everyone

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who

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who may be thinking: yes, he's a bad, evil,

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villainous person, not a good man, but still

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he is a citizen of Russia, and we don't

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like the fact that a foreign state

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is somehow restricting him. Well, he is

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not really a citizen of Russia at all, this

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man. Of course, he holds a passport of the

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Russian Federation, but he is not a citizen

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of Russia — he is an enemy of all Russian citizens,

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because he robs all of us and

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moves his money to Switzerland. I am very

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glad, I repeat, that he ended up on these

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lists, and the Anti-Corruption Foundation did

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a lot to make sure that Russian citizens

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learned who Artyom

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Chaika is. Please, a few seconds from

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our 2015 film, when no one yet

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knew who he was. Who paid for such a

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large-scale celebration, and whom personally

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the Minister of Culture congratulates from the stage?

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They write that the owners of the hotel are investors from

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Russia. It seems like this must be some

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well-known oligarch or hotel magnate, but that's

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not the case. In this video, the real owners

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of the hotel

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solemnly cut the ribbon. Recognize him?

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This is Artyom Yuryevich Chaika,

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the son of Russia's Prosecutor General. There,

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you see, Artyom Yuryevich Chaika. In the film

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we say that you haven't seen this man before.

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And indeed, no one had

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seen him before. Now everyone knows him. I consider that a major

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achievement of our foundation, because

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we wrote a lot about this man.

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Now almost everyone who

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is interested in politics knows about him. We know the rules of

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his business, his brother's business; we know that

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he became one of the monopolists in

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the salt market in Russia, and so on and so

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forth. But I just want once again to draw

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your attention — take a look at our

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investigation if you've forgotten, or

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if you haven't watched it at all. Artyom Chaika is not

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just some corrupt official, you know, not just

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a villain — some man in a tie,

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a shirt, a suit, whom you all

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imagine sitting around moving money. This man

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killed.

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He is a participant in organized

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criminal groups. He

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— we made this accusation and still

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stand by the position that Artyom

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Chaika, together with his family, under the protection

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of his daddy and other leaders

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of the prosecutor's office, killed the head

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of the Far Eastern Shipping Company, and all of this

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was cooked up in such a way as to make it look

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like it was a suicide. We believe this and will

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continue to insist on it. We say that all

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the documents point to this — that the Chaikas,

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senior and junior and every one of them,

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were involved in business with the Tsapki gang (a notorious Russian criminal group), that is,

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with people who killed repeatedly.

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If you want to give yourself a scare and

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possibly ruin your mood, type into

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Wikipedia 'Kushchyovskaya stanitsa' (a Cossack village in southern Russia) and read

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the description there of how children were thrown alive into

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the fire by those very murderers. And the Chaikas

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did business with them. Therefore every

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citizen of Russia should welcome

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the fact that the Americans included Artyom Chaika

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— for starters, Artyom Chaika — on the sanctions

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lists, and regret only that the Russian

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Federation will not do the same. Which in

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practice means this is what Chaika will now

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be facing: he has landed on the so-called

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SDN list, which is the harshest

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part of the sanctions list, which means

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that any of his property, shares, and money in

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bank accounts—in short, everything, everything, everything that belongs to him—

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will be immediately

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frozen as soon as it falls under

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U.S. jurisdiction or ends up within

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the sphere of influence of any American companies.

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Besides, this will make it much harder for him

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to deal with any banks, because

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well, in practice, that means he will

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simply find that within a couple of days

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the credit cards of any

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foreign banks will stop working, and it will seriously

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complicate his business and, more broadly, his

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life in Switzerland. Let me remind you

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that he earns his money here, while

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he moves it all over there, and

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that is where he is trying to get a residence permit.

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In other words, he is a typical representative

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of the Russian elite, who in fact

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... As for the question, what is the plan if they allow

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participation in the election—wait, 24...

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...people out in the street right now... about Chaika (likely Yury Chaika, former Russian prosecutor general), yes?

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Yes, yes, I’m getting to that—I’ll explain everything.

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I lost my train of thought after all; I’m still inexperienced

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when it comes to reacting instantly to these

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questions. Anyway, Chaika has landed on

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a serious sanctions list.

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It will now be very difficult for him to conduct

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any kind of business abroad—practically

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impossible. He will resort to

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various tricks, probably trying to reduce

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his stake in certain companies. He

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will remain a salt monopolist inside Russia,

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but as for any exports,

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that is out of the question. Only some

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third-rate banks located in some

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place like Somalia might open an account for him,

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or maybe in some...

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in Syria, perhaps, he could open an account.

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In Russia, sure—but in any respectable

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country, he will not be able to do that. So

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we welcome all of this

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and regret only one thing:

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that Russia itself does not do this. Comrade... incredibly...

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On all channels he says that he is in contact with

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you. Don’t believe that, for example, you will be allowed

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into the election—he is deceiving either you or...

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I didn’t manage to read such a huge

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question, but the person paid 2,000 rubles for it

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(about $20–25), so: how does an opposition Duma plan to work?

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Will there be an attempt

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to dissolve it? We see that we need to raise

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the price for questions, because there are too many of them.

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So, what is the plan if they do not allow it, if

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I am not allowed to run?

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We will declare a voters’ strike.

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We will not take part in

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a campaign in which the main

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candidate was not allowed to participate.

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There was a question about... and about some kind of

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rates. To be honest, I did not

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understand it very well, even though it was huge.

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And the third question—the third question was...

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Remind me, what was the third question? I keep

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trying to remember, but I can’t right now. Sorry.

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Please, what was the third question? Meanwhile,

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I want to move on to the next topic—my

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main topic, the one that currently occupies me the most.

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The entire headquarters team is working on it too,

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all of us, all of us, all of us. It is the nomination process. We

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ran the campaign—we ran

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the campaign excellently. I am proud that all these

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wonderful people worked with me. It

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was, and still is, very cool. And now we

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are approaching an extremely important

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event.

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The actual nomination itself—this is how

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it works: we have to hold

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an initiative group meeting, one or several.

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Under the law, you can hold as many as you like;

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there is no limit. And we are

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quite vulnerable at this moment because

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we have to gather 500 people, and they must vote

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for you: who is in favor of

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nominating Navalny? Then we take

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the documents to the election commission. But as you understand,

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it is fairly easy to disperse this group of

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people, or spray something in the room—

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some kind of canister with

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tear gas—or send

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some thugs (gopniks, Russian slang for street hooligans), five people or

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a thousand people, to disrupt the meeting.

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There is a lot the authorities can do,

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because we do not even need to hold a rally;

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holding a rally would actually be easier. But this is

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precisely this formal procedure for

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registration that is vulnerable.

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But we have a major advantage: we

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can hold this in many, many

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cities, because we have real

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activists and a real organizational structure.

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So we decided to hold

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such 500-person meetings in 20 cities. In the description

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of this video there is a link to all the cities, and

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you can sign up for one of these initiative

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groups and take part. About plucking Chaika—

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thank you very much. I do not know, somehow they plucked...

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or felt around—probably. I do not know, but

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thank you. Anyway, we are holding these

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initiative group meetings both in Moscow and in all

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the regions. There is a link in the description—go there,

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click “participate.” You cannot

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sign up for Moscow, because in Moscow

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it is the riskiest and most problematic

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event, so it will be by invitation

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only. We are inviting people and planning it as a

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working event. We are not inviting

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any stars or celebrities there, because

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it will be fairly long and tiring,

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lasting many hours. And in fact, we still

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do not fully understand where we will

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hold it. Most likely it will be

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literally on the beach in Serebryany Bor (a park area in Moscow),

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where we will put up a tent—or they will not let us

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put it up, and we will end up on

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a snowy field, which is rather funny.

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I have already seen that there were many comments.

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Claims of this kind—that Navalny’s nomination event

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will take place on a nudist beach—are false.

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Because the nudist beach is located

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nearby, a few hundred meters away; we will be on a

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regular beach, so everyone will be

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clothed. And what good are sanctions if Putin

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just compensates for everything at our expense?

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Exactly right, Yevgeny Radchuk. That is why

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we are running this campaign, that is why we

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are trying to change the government so that

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Putin can no longer compensate for anything

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at our expense. That excuse has already appeared,

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and we do not want him to be paid even more.

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That is why we are holding these initiative group meetings.

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Join us.

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Vityaz, so, the Central Election Commission seems

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to have said that it will attend

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our events in a number of regions. In

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other regions—for example, in Vladivostok—

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there is real pressure, and they are saying this

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will be an unauthorized rally, that they will

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disperse people—they are trying to intimidate us. But this is not

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a rally at all.

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This is an initiative group. The notification

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is submitted to the election commission, and we have done all of that.

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Misha Kuzmenko, I love you, be OK.

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That cost 2,018 rubles.

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Misha Kuzmenko—or someone else who wanted me

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to say it—Valeria let me know. Right, Misha

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Kuzmenko, okay, that’s it, now I have

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finally figured it out: Valeria and Misha

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Kuzmenko, you’ve confused me again. I mean,

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in different regions this is going very

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differently. In many places, the election commission simply

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writes, “Everything is fine, we will come, we have

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no complaints.” In other regions,

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there is some pressure. It is clear that the authorities themselves

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do not really understand what to do about it. They

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must realize that the law is

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completely on our side. There is simply no

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other way to hold this

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initiative group meeting. You submit

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a notification to the election commission, and then

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you gather 500 people somewhere—

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outdoors, indoors, anywhere—and

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there is absolutely no reason to disperse us. But we

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will probably see some methods

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of obstruction used against us.

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Still, I just want to say once again

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that we will definitely

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hold these meetings in 20 regions. Some may be

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disrupted, some may not, but in Moscow, on the

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beach—we really did discuss today at our staff meeting

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whether to hold it in

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a parking lot, or in a business center cafeteria,

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or in any indoor space, or at a metro station.

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But we simply submitted notifications to the

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election commission for many different locations,

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so we are not violating

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even the letter of the law, and we can hold

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all of this in different places, including outdoors.

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We will absolutely hold it in Moscow,

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and in other regions we

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are doing everything possible to make it happen.

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It’s just that, guys, those of you taking part in this

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movement, please be

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patient. It is a tedious, unpleasant process,

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with registration taking many hours.

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But it has to be done, because we

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do not want to undermine all of our enormous

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work. In fact, we are the only ones who really

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have this huge structure, these

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volunteers. I assure you that no

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other candidate—well, Putin probably could—

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but no other candidate

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could gather 500 genuinely real, truly their own

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supporters even in three or four

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cities, let alone hold such

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initiative group meetings. But we can

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hold them. We could hold them in all 83 regions

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where we have campaign offices, but that would require

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a significant amount of resources.

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So we limited ourselves. Now, why

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“campaign of short stature”? All right, I

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read this: “Why is the pony short?”

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No, I have no problem with short people

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or people of small stature. The person whom

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you are calling a pony—Putin, Vladimir

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Vladimirovich—that is not his problem. The point

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is not his height. The point is that he is, first,

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a corrupt man, and second, he is dragging the country backward.

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That is absolutely terrible. But I, I will continue

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reading the messages.

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Because I remember that 2,018 rubles

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for each one of them

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will go toward paying people’s fines. Ten such

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messages from Valeria saying “Misha,

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I love you,” or asking why someone is some height—that is 20,180

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rubles for someone’s fine. That person

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will be pleased. Vlad Antelope, today we

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released an investigation, and that is also one

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of the reasons, on the one hand, for my good

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mood, because we finally

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finished and published something we had had

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for quite a while: material about Peskov and his

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family, who bought an apartment in

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Paris for almost 2 million euros.

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On the other hand, of course, what is extremely

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irritating is the complete lack of reaction.

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Not only from the officials themselves,

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but journalists too—good Lord, journalists.

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There are still some independent media outlets left, or

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semi-independent ones. Surely at least one of them wants

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to get some likes, I don’t

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know, some clicks. This topic really

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does attract major public attention.

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Call Peskov. Call his daughter.

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Call someone on the anti-corruption committee,

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call Natalia Poklonskaya—she

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will tell you all sorts of funny things. You can make

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them into a headline and get a ton of clicks.

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But nobody is doing anything. That is very bad.

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Let me show you one minute

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of this 15-minute investigation, just

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to remind you what is going on there. And

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today we are asking Dmitry Peskov,

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the press secretary of the President of Russia,

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to explain to us not only... well, and also

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People of Russia, this is who you see in the photo.

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You see Elizaveta Peskova, and she talks so much

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and lives such a glamorous life

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that sooner or later a logical question arises:

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where does she live? In Paris.

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The apartment is located

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in one of the most expensive districts of Paris, and

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it has an area of 180 square meters (about 1,940 square feet). It has

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an entry hall, a living room, 4 bedrooms, and 3 bathrooms,

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a laundry room, and a balcony. It was purchased in

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September 2016 and registered to

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a French legal entity, Sirius. Seventy-five percent

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of it belongs to Ekaterina Solotsinskaya-Peskova,

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and 25 percent to her

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daughter, Liza Peskova. And the most

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interesting part is the price: it is

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1 million 770 thousand euros,

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which is 125 million rubles.

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Irochka Meduzka is swimming in the Persian

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Gulf.

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This has nothing to do with what I just showed,

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but someone paid for

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this message,

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so I had to read it. Before that there was

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a message I forgot, sorry, about

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whether the Duma (Russia's lower house of parliament) should be dissolved. Of course it should be

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dissolved. It does not represent our

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interests. The people sitting there hold stolen

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mandates. Continuing on Peskov, what else

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needs to be done? Well, there was also this story about

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the watch worth 37 million rubles, and a yacht vacation

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costing 26 million rubles a week. He spent

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two weeks there, that is,

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so roughly 50 million rubles. He also

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didn't pay for that either—he effectively received a bribe.

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A house worth a billion rubles. A billion-ruble house does not

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just appear out of nowhere. You missed my question.

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So now they'll start demanding 24,000

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rubles back. I'll file a complaint with Sportloto (a Soviet-era state lottery, often invoked jokingly as a pointless complaint destination).

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But I did read it. Attention: we will return

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4,000 rubles to you.

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What else needs to happen for this

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government to at least try to pretend

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that it is somehow asking questions too?

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Peskov should be asked—Yulia, that's a task for the investigation—but no one

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has explained where Peskov could possibly get

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so much money. They told us

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that Navka, the figure skater, his

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wife, paid for his watch or whatever else,

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but a figure skater simply cannot be that

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rich

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as to buy a house worth a billion rubles,

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throw away tens of millions of rubles on

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various expenses, and on top of that buy her husband's ex-wife

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a house for 2 million euros

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and an apartment in Paris for 2 million euros.

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That's impossible. And yes, of course, it's outrageous.

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Why are we running an election campaign?

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Because enough is enough—we cannot keep tolerating this.

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They are throwing all of this

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right in our faces, with absolutely no concern.

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This is Peskov's wife, who works in the

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French branch of Rossotrudnichestvo (Russia's federal agency for international humanitarian cooperation),

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in Paris—she heads

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Rossotrudnichestvo there, representing

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Russia, and she doesn't even know French.

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That is stated in official

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documents. Well, she...

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You've probably seen the investigation devoted

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to the musketeers and so on. In other words, people at

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our expense... Someone sent 10,000 for a fine—excellent.

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Great donation, thank you.

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People live at our expense.

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They really have turned on

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this new aristocracy, and this is exactly how

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they live. Have you seen the interior of that apartment?

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A cheetah, aluminum... some kind of 'The Last Days of Pompeii' décor.

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At our expense. Come to

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the signature collection tomorrow.

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It will be rush hour, so check your information in advance.

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Come for verification. It really will be

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peak hours—we'll try to avoid that, but for

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verification, of course, come early, and

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we will keep hammering away at Peskov, and

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we call on everyone to keep pressing him too.

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I urge everyone to share this video.

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Why is this especially important?

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Because you have a chance—you need to offer Putin

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something a little more than immunity.

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Please think about this. Putin, we

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are offering you something a little more than

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immunity: we'll take Peskov's

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apartment in Paris and give it to you, Putin,

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if you agree to a peaceful transfer of power.

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Why is it important to spread this video?

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Because we often release

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investigations about people

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the general public doesn't know, but

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everyone knows Peskov. He's constantly on

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television. Every grandmother knows who

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Peskov is, and every grandmother understands what

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an apartment in Paris or a wristwatch worth

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30 million rubles means. So it is very

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important that together we make sure

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that any citizen of Russia, when

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they watch the Direct Line (Putin's annual televised Q&A), reaches the point where

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they look at Putin, then look at Peskov,

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and think: you thieving mug, how can you

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sit there, and why is the president sitting

20:46

next to you? And how dare you say anything about

20:48

fighting corruption? This is very, very

20:51

important. So the reproach that I

20:55

only read paid questions is unfair—I am also watching

20:57

Twitter.

20:58

Hurry to download... There are a great many questions in 2017 about

21:00

Vitaly Rukanov.

21:03

He was a volunteer for several years

21:08

in various election campaigns

21:10

that we ran, a volunteer lawyer, and in recent

21:12

months he worked in... I didn't

21:15

manage to read it—please repeat it for me.

21:17

I mean, don't pay again now, just

21:19

repeat the question you asked.

21:21

Sorry. He worked at the election...

21:26

I was receiving a salary. And if you are not aware

21:30

of what happened, you can go to

21:32

his social media, scroll back a little, and

21:34

see posts about Tochka and the campaign headquarters.

21:36

Volkov's best election campaign

21:38

A heroic person would stand firm even there in the sand.

21:42

So, basically, Volkov's arrest is on the record.

21:44

But that's the price of a successful campaign.

21:46

Today, he suddenly burst out with a post

21:48

saying that this is the worst campaign in the world.

21:51

Under no circumstances should you even think of

21:52

commenting on the election campaign.

21:54

Sobchak, did you write that to me for this purpose?

21:56

So that I would say it out loud? I won't.

21:57

comment on the election campaign.

21:59

As for Sobchak, I've said many times that, well,

22:01

at this particular stage, only fools

22:03

spend their time commenting on it.

22:04

So anyway, he put up a post saying

22:06

that this is, supposedly, the worst campaign in the world.

22:08

Everything is terrible, Volkov is a scoundrel, and that would be

22:13

easy enough to explain, but if he had written:

22:15

"Navalny is such an idiot and a bad person, I..."

22:17

I've been a volunteer for several years, and I want

22:20

to meet with you, I want to attend

22:21

the December 24 event. Is it worth going?

22:23

Will you be speaking there? About the December 24 event,

22:26

I'll say a bit later.

22:28

It would be understandable if you, Vitaly, had written: "Navalny

22:30

is an idiot. I worked for many

22:32

years as a volunteer, and then I was fired

22:33

from the headquarters." But there's also just this kind of

22:37

marker: why did they drag in, specifically,

22:40

the December 24 event, the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) provocation?

22:43

Navalny is my president. I love my wife, Liliya.

22:44

Thank you, Alexander Kh. Thank you for these three

22:47

thousand rubles.

22:49

So anyway, he was pouring it all into this thing,

22:52

footbag, and together with Yashin they organized

22:54

a provocation—meaning the event on the 24th.

22:58

The authorities act by the law—they act

23:00

illegally. That's just a marker, that's all.

23:02

Right. Do you remember that in the event of victory

23:06

to put forward a proper candidate who

23:10

is at least in favor of a transfer of power?

23:12

In the event of victory, to hold a proper election

23:13

for president? But listen, all candidates

23:16

are formally in favor of rotation of power.

23:18

Putin always says that he is a candidate

23:20

for a replaceable office, but not all of that is real.

23:22

Those aren't real candidates. That's all. It's very simple.

23:25

They do not run real

23:26

election campaigns. Don't get distracted

23:28

by reading this message. 4,000 rubles.

23:30

Thank you. So anyway,

23:33

remember, we also had a volunteer like that,

23:36

Turovsky, who

23:39

heroically suffered, and then suddenly

23:41

burst out with a post about how we are all

23:43

awful and terrible. At first we didn't understand

23:45

what was going to happen, and I—would there be a neighborhood event?

23:47

The neighborhood event will happen. We didn't

23:50

understand. I said on air as well

23:51

Alexander, can you bring it along, can you—

23:53

they're tormenting me. Alexander, I'll help, and yes, I

23:56

give us a signal. But if you now

23:58

read what he writes, you'll be convinced

24:00

absolutely: he was simply planted

24:02

from the very beginning, because all his

24:04

posts

24:04

now are absolutely no different from what

24:06

the Kremlin propaganda says. Who is

24:08

the best broker on the market? I will definitely

24:09

entrust a huge part of the budget.

24:11

Okay, but that's advertising, guys. Advertising can't

24:13

cost 2,018 rubles on such a high-

24:16

rated program as Navalny 2018.

24:19

Sorry, I won't read that kind of thing on air.

24:22

Well, this Turovsky was once brought

24:25

into the headquarters by Rukanov, and well, I

24:28

Nadezhda Andreeva is the best mother-in-law.

24:32

I can't put them all through a lie detector.

24:34

It's very easy to plant someone among us.

24:38

Someone just came in off the street, and in fact,

24:40

have you noticed that after Rukanov, people like that every

24:43

day come out with posts: "I was a volunteer, they

24:45

called me, and now I want to say that all of

24:47

this is very bad." It's very easy

24:49

to plant someone among us, and I can't

24:51

check all 190,000 volunteers and 83

24:54

headquarters. Here at the staff meeting—I was there

24:58

less than two hours ago—there are 100 people standing there.

24:59

Obviously.

25:01

Sorry, but some people there have clearly been planted.

25:04

And some people are waiting for their moment

25:07

to also burst out with some kind of

25:09

post. Notice that before every

25:11

important event, before every

25:12

especially every rally that the authorities want

25:15

to ban, certain people appear,

25:18

immediately record a video address, and within

25:21

three minutes those video addresses

25:23

appear across all the hellish social media

25:25

channels—the same utterly vile faces every time.

25:27

The usual suspects comment on them,

25:29

spread them, write columns about them.

25:31

Everything happens the same way every time. But

25:34

that's normal. There is a certain number of

25:36

people who usually weren't planted by anyone;

25:39

they got offended, upset, or simply disagree with us.

25:41

And there are those who are planted.

25:44

Overall, our campaign is going wonderfully, and

25:47

everything is fine at our Moscow headquarters.

25:49

Despite the fact that we have had to

25:51

move four times and work under pressure, I am very

25:53

pleased and grateful to all the volunteers

25:55

who continue to work with us. Among

25:59

us there are foreign agents—those

26:01

foreign agents, naturally, decided

26:04

that the dislikes mean computers are infected

26:07

with a virus and are being used for artificial boosting. We need

26:09

to pay attention to this, clean

26:10

the computer, and change the YouTube password.

26:13

I'm not sure that's really the right

26:16

thing. But there, you read about the dislikes, and in

26:18

fact we really do see that

26:22

a large number of dislikes are clearly

26:25

Do you work with lawyers from Team 29?

26:28

Those guys are making a strong contribution to the fight against the current

26:30

lawlessness. We can see that there is clearly

26:33

a bot network being used for this, along with infected computers,

26:35

to leave dislikes.

26:37

That really is the case with the lawyer from

26:39

Team 29 (a Russian legal and human rights group); we do not work with him directly

26:41

directly as of today.

26:43

For example, they published a great

26:44

investigation titled something like

26:46

"How to Revive Manufacturing." I'll answer that in a moment.

26:47

Team 29 published today an investigation about

26:51

how student

26:52

groups in support of Putin are being created at

26:54

universities. It's an interesting thing, especially against the backdrop of

26:57

how we were criticized for the fact that we

26:59

work with students. As for how to revive

27:01

manufacturing: you need to free up the economy.

27:04

So, Shariy is talking to you about Kremlin

27:06

...not responding to the substance of his accusations is the same

27:08

thing Medvedev did after *He Is Not Dimon to You* (Navalny's 2017 anti-corruption film), no matter

27:10

who Shariy is.

27:11

Comment on what he said. It's not hard

27:13

to comment on some of his statements

27:14

because I don't watch Shariy. I watched

27:16

him—well, not regularly—I watched several of his

27:19

videos. At one point he

27:20

focused on Ukraine. He was constantly

27:22

criticizing Ukraine; now he's constantly

27:24

criticizing me for all sorts of reasons, but

27:26

as for Stanislav Belkovsky, there seems to be some kind of

27:28

personal dislike toward me. Is it connected with the fact that you

27:30

used to be a nationalist? That's rather funny

27:32

because very often, a long time ago,

27:36

people said that Stanislav Belkovsky

27:38

was organizing nationalist

27:41

groups that I worked with. So my

27:43

godfather of nationalism... Time and

27:45

place in each of our lives are determined by fate.

27:47

If the hero doesn't show up,

27:49

there will be no heroic deed. Guys, I hope you

27:51

won't start writing poetry for me to

27:53

read. All right, I promised that during this

27:56

broadcast I would read every message, and I will

27:59

do that patiently. Please forgive me that

28:03

I couldn't... Is Pumpa Europe a joke or

28:05

serious? At least briefly, how do you see

28:07

the development of this sector in Russia? Thank you.

28:09

Fortunately, this sector in Russia is, broadly speaking,

28:11

developing wonderfully on its own, and we can see

28:14

that it is one of the few sectors that

28:16

was developing as long as the state didn't

28:18

interfere. As long as the state didn't interfere,

28:20

everything was great. On the internet, we had

28:22

excellent indicators; everything

28:24

was good. So the IT sector needs to

28:26

be left alone first and foremost for now.

28:27

Please pass on the message:

28:30

good luck with the exam session, and kitty Ulyana

28:33

sends you greetings. I'm passing that on—thanks for the kitty. As for

28:36

"foreign agent,"

28:37

there are foreign agents, and the Federation Council's website

28:40

has decided to expose them. Let's take a look

28:42

at the criteria by which they classify

28:45

people, by which they decided to designate even

28:47

individuals. As for this mistake in your program,

28:50

can one only allocate a percentage to a

28:53

special account where the...?

28:54

For details and proposals, please go to the website

28:57

Plan of Change, to the program website, simply to

29:01

the Navalny 2018 website. There is a contact

29:03

email there—send it there, and we will forward it to whoever

29:05

needs it. So now any person can essentially

29:08

What about the video *The Millions of an Anti-Corruption Fighter*?

29:10

from 2017, where you say that

29:12

you earned 5.5 million rubles in a year

29:15

from legal consultations, but did not

29:16

handle cases. Who are your clients?

29:19

Well, that's not me saying it—it was published in

29:24

my declaration for the 2013 election.

29:26

And soon there will be published

29:28

a declaration... Every Russian family

29:30

should have the right to 2 to 4 hectares (about 5 to 10 acres) anywhere

29:32

of land by the sea in Russia, so this

29:36

does not look like a utopian idea at all.

29:38

So, my

29:40

property declaration will be published in detail, and my

29:43

wife's and mine—you will be able to see all of it.

29:45

You can look up how much money I

29:47

received from the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights), almost as compensation.

29:49

All of that will be visible. I wish

29:51

Navalny to win the presidency.

29:53

Those are insults.

29:54

They say it's a good wish. I still can't quite

29:58

get to the foreign agents issue. So,

30:01

they are trying to fight people

30:04

who express some opinion of their own, and

30:07

that is why they introduced a new, absolutely over-the-top and

30:09

draconian law. Venediktov...

30:11

...is stirring this up. It's a disgrace.

30:13

Alexei Alexeyevich, it's a disgrace. I agree that

30:15

you very often play along with

30:17

...which is very, very bad when it comes to

30:20

foreign agents. For that, Alexei

30:22

Alexeyevich, even an indicator screwdriver could be declared

30:23

a foreign agent. Right now, any

30:25

person can be designated under two criteria.

30:28

A foreign agent. Criterion number

30:29

one—happy upcoming holidays, I hope everything

30:31

works out for you. No more big questions

30:33

left, thank you.

30:34

Criterion number one: you distribute

30:36

information. Criterion number two: you

30:39

receive money from abroad.

30:40

Right now I am sitting here distributing

30:43

information, and maybe this very

30:45

comrade—who wrote, "Happy New Year"—

30:47

Denis from Kazakhstan,

30:49

or Artyom Ryzhenkov, who just now

30:52

sent us 2,018 rubles from Belarus, or

30:55

from America, where he lives while holding a Russian

30:57

passport—and all the money I received came from

31:00

abroad, and I am distributing information, so

31:02

there you have it: a foreign agent. You have a

31:04

YouTube channel.

31:05

What do you do there?

31:08

Take baths in potato chips, get

31:10

a ton of views, and

31:12

for those views YouTube pays you. Alexei, you'd

31:14

better stick out your tongue—well, no, excuse me,

31:16

please. You know that for YouTube views

31:19

you get paid

31:21

because they sell advertising on your blog.

31:22

You received money from abroad, and you are a foreign agent.

31:24

A foreign agent. You write something on

31:27

Facebook and work at a Western

31:29

university, and you received from there

31:31

a scholarship or a study grant or

31:33

something else. Basically, you made an app

31:38

for iPhone or Android and receive money;

31:42

people pay you, they are sitting here in Russia,

31:44

they bought your app for two

31:45

dollars, it took 30 percent from you,

31:48

and brought the rest of the money to you from

31:50

abroad — and you are a foreign agent.

31:52

So, hinting through this whole story that

31:55

populists rushing to power will ruin

31:56

the country. Alexei, your comment is very

31:58

detailed — as I understand it,

32:00

it is about Movchan.

32:02

A detailed one. Maxim Mironov published

32:04

a comment where he tore apart Novchina, which

32:07

simply makes a whole bunch of factual errors

32:11

when talking about this. Listen, guys, make

32:14

the font a little smaller, nothing fits

32:16

on my screen. Someone there 'developed Siberia,'

32:18

Abramovich and Khodorkovsky privatized things, simply

32:20

said, 'These are ours.' Will there be a trial for them?

32:22

But as for Khodorkovsky — note this:

32:23

he was tried twice; the man spent 10 years in prison.

32:26

Abramovich did exactly the same thing

32:29

as all the other participants, so

32:31

what we really need here is equal

32:34

treatment for everyone. Alexei, as for supporting

32:35

the cycling movement: today I was almost

32:37

hit twice, this is impossible to tolerate. 6,666 rubles

32:41

(about $70) — sent by a devilish cyclist, many

32:43

thanks. Yes, no need to whine — the cycling movement needs

32:46

support, it needs to be developed properly,

32:48

bike lanes need to be built, but not done

32:50

idiotically, as in Moscow, where you get

32:52

nearly hit twice; it should still be more

32:53

normal. Hello, wonderful... so that your

32:55

great volunteer corps — definitely

32:56

I will come to you again.

32:57

Thank you very much, Sergey. So, about foreign agents:

33:03

do you know who introduced the foreign agents law?

33:06

My former classmate.

33:08

His name is Andrei Klishas; he studied

33:11

together with me, by the way, at the University

33:12

of Peoples' Friendship (RUDN University in Moscow).

33:13

Send in questions, and then answer

33:15

five at a time along the main line.

33:16

Cannabis — legalize it? Legalization of

33:20

drugs has practically happened nowhere;

33:22

what is needed is the decriminalization of this

33:25

sphere, because right now people are being imprisoned

33:27

for 5 to 10 years for, say, one gram

33:30

of hashish. Drugs are evil, terrible evil; nobody

33:34

should use drugs. But the fact that we have

33:35

driven tens of thousands of young people

33:38

into prisons for minor

33:41

offenses — offenses, not

33:42

serious crimes — is of course completely

33:45

wrong. Andrei Klishas, the senator

33:48

who introduced it again — I remember that I

33:51

need to say this about foreign agents:

33:52

he introduced this bill under which

33:55

absolutely anyone... I know — what do you think of the project

33:56

Venus by Jacque Fresco? I know nothing about it,

33:59

I am hearing about it for the first time; I will look it up on Wikipedia if

34:00

I do not forget. He introduced this bill, and

34:04

now they are trying to create a situation in which

34:07

every single person can, in effect,

34:09

each of us, one way or another, be

34:12

declared a foreign agent. They do not

34:13

like your Facebook posts?

34:15

Foreign agent. Which means under the post

34:17

you must write: 'I am a foreign agent.'

34:19

And if your handle is UnstoppableWritesMisha190, you must

34:23

write: 'I am a foreign agent.' And if you

34:24

do not write it, you can be fined

34:26

5,000 rubles, then 50,000 rubles, and then some other

34:29

fines.

34:30

huge amounts, and then

34:33

bailiffs will be chasing you endlessly. In other words,

34:35

this creates a kind of global

34:37

threat for everyone. Please do not

34:41

get distracted by these messages, it is awful.

34:42

Leave 15–20 minutes for them at the end

34:45

of the broadcast. Sergey Zotov — well, listen, since I

34:46

promised to read them, it was probably a mistake,

34:50

yes, but still, I promised. I will not

34:52

read... What is Senator Klishas famous for?

34:57

Besides the fact that this man, because of

34:59

Navalny, and besides the fact that he is my

35:01

former classmate, he is famous because we did

35:04

an investigation about him, and this guy

35:06

who is chasing after us and wants to declare us all

35:08

foreign agents turns out to be the owner

35:10

of a wonderful house in

35:12

Switzerland.

35:12

Let us take a look at it, at this house.

35:18

Seven hundred... nine hundred fifty-seven square meters

35:21

— this house costs about 7 million euros.

35:24

Kanata goddess power goddess.

35:26

This senator's house costs about 7 million euros, and

35:29

at one time we caught

35:33

him failing to fully

35:34

declare his real estate holdings.

35:36

Even for a smaller property, he should have

35:38

been kicked out of the Senate, but that did not

35:39

happen. Read it with feeling, properly,

35:41

and with emphasis. All right, Black, I read it.

35:47

For this, he should have been thrown out of

35:49

the Senate altogether, but he is still sitting there, and he

35:51

still has... in Switzerland. Note

35:52

this: formally, he and his family

35:55

are forbidden from even having bank accounts abroad.

35:58

Do you think it is possible to own this

36:01

property there, pay utility bills,

36:05

pay taxes, pay for the maintenance of this house,

36:08

little bird, little doggie, pay for

36:10

the upkeep of all of this without having

36:12

accounts in Switzerland?

36:14

Impossible. Well, you can pay for some things

36:16

from a Russian account, but to actually manage

36:19

real estate worth 7 million

36:22

euros without having

36:23

a foreign account, a disguised

36:26

foreign account, or a secret offshore company

36:28

either through a relative’s bank account or through

36:30

a front person—it’s impossible. We understand perfectly well

36:33

that Senator Klishas, who runs around after

36:35

us shouting, “You are foreign agents,” is himself

36:37

violating the law and is himself

36:39

a foreign agent, and he comes up with

36:41

this crap that he keeps pushing into

36:43

the State Duma and the Federation Council

36:45

while sitting in his property in Switzerland.

36:47

This—this really is infuriating.

36:50

Such hypocrisy—a bunch of crooks who simply

36:55

By the way, how did Klishas make his money?

36:57

He worked at the State Property Committee (Goskomimushchestvo, the Russian state property agency)

36:59

and helped Potanin effectively steal

37:01

the enterprise called Norilsk

37:03

Nickel.

37:04

After that, he left the State Property Committee and ran off

37:06

to work for Norilsk Nickel, where he

37:08

basically legalized his money.

37:10

Alexei, really—oh Lord—thank you

37:12

very much for everything. You’re welcome, my dear.

37:14

Trotsenko, thank you for everything. And these people,

37:19

in order to protect their right

37:22

to buy Swiss real estate and

37:25

manage it through their secret accounts,

37:27

want to declare all of us foreign

37:30

agents. I hope they won’t succeed. Let me

37:31

remind you that all the money today—where

37:35

did Ignaty go? A minute ago he was here with

37:36

us in a black cardigan, pink jeans, with

37:38

a white handkerchief in his pocket—some kind of

37:39

crematorium group, I know what that is—they

37:43

were defending it, basically.

37:49

To sum up: Klishas’s law on

37:51

foreign agents is terrible.

37:53

Support me as a candidate for

37:54

president too—I’ll put an end to this filth and

37:56

nonsense. And join my active

37:59

campaign groups. New Year’s broadcast.

38:00

I’m not going to defend... well, the audience

38:03

Kira Yarmysh, the agony of the broadcast...

38:06

Give the microphone back to Yarmysh—Yarmysh herself

38:10

doesn’t really want to sit here

38:11

in the evenings, and

38:13

during the program she tries to quickly

38:16

slip away home. Senator Klishas—the last

38:21

thing I want to say about him: Alexei, when

38:22

you become president...

38:23

Bookmaker and poker websites?

38:26

Well, that topic needs to be looked into. I’m

38:29

not sure about it. As for Russian sites, probably

38:31

obviously they should be unblocked.

38:32

After all, it’s a game, though some kind of

38:34

sport, apparently, and I don’t really see the point

38:36

of banning them. If you want to play, play; if you don’t,

38:38

don’t. There isn’t

38:39

any direct fraud happening there, so they

38:42

can exist perfectly legally.

38:44

Klishas, among other things, is also the kind of person who...

38:46

Hit like, folks...

38:49

He is the chairman of the All-Russian Society

38:51

of—let me say this correctly—

38:53

our investigations department has a magazine, you can ask

38:55

the investigations team—he’s the owner of dachshunds,

38:57

or rather the owner, the keeper of dachshunds.

39:00

What’s the right way to put it? He’s obsessed with

39:01

dachshunds—I didn’t write it down in my notes out of irritation.

39:04

That is to say, Klishas is the head,

39:08

the chairman of the national dachshund club,

39:10

and he didn’t say a single word about the horrible

39:14

act of Dmitry Rogozin. Hello—

39:15

what do you do about the copyright hardliners now?

39:17

Can you be jailed for using unlicensed Windows?

39:19

That’s a separate conversation. As for

39:21

copyright enforcers and the fight against piracy,

39:23

it’s all fairly complicated. Probably in

39:26

some future program I’ll talk more about it

39:28

in detail.

39:29

Rogozin tortured a dachshund, and Klishas

39:33

is silent about it, despite the fact that representatives

39:34

of the national dachshund council...

39:36

What do you think of Trump’s statement about

39:37

Jerusalem and the response to it?

39:39

How does it affect international relations?

39:41

Well, I join the entire international

39:44

community, which believes that Trump’s statement

39:46

will most likely complicate

39:48

everything that is happening

39:51

right now in efforts to resolve the situation in

39:53

the Middle East. Rogozin allowed

39:54

a dachshund to be publicly submerged—well, not drowned, but

39:56

still, the dog must have thought it was the end.

39:59

Now, in the corner: why don’t you come to Krasnodar?

40:00

There are fierce grandmothers there

40:02

in the majority.

40:02

I don’t come to Krasnodar because

40:04

it’s simply impossible to get approval

40:06

for a rally. We very much want to come through

40:07

Krasnodar—it’s a huge city, with huge

40:09

support, and many viewers from Krasnodar.

40:11

A video will now play in the corner.

40:13

If this makes you nervous, you can

40:15

just cover it like this. This is what

40:18

—well, I can see people sitting here,

40:20

some of them have already closed their eyes. There are

40:25

people—we watched this, all of us watched

40:29

how they took the dachshund right in front of

40:32

Rogozin and simply shoved it into some kind of

40:35

capsule, and then crammed it in there.

40:37

That poor dachshund, of course,

40:39

must have thought, “My God, what is happening? I was just

40:41

sitting in someone’s arms and seeing some

40:43

important people, and now suddenly they’re drowning me here

40:46

in front of Putin, and suddenly they’re drowning me,”

40:49

or “These people are trying to kill me, and

40:51

now I’m going to die.” And the dachshund, as it were,

40:53

decided it was dying and started swallowing

40:55

air—or rather, that water—but it was

40:57

oxygen-enriched, so the dachshund didn’t

40:59

die. They pulled it out, and it was vomiting in front of

41:01

everyone. And yes, we’re not—of course we’re not

41:04

hypocrites. We understand, we are fully aware

41:06

that there is animal testing, but what kind of

41:10

thing is this?

41:11

To put it simply, there’s nothing to comment on. It’s exactly

41:13

how the Kremlin crowd behaves, one for one.

41:15

It’s not profitable—quality work

41:17

is sometimes replaced by poor-quality work by them.

41:19

they consider it quality work, and not by

41:22

not in Ukraine, not in Russia — this is some kind of

41:24

strange person, and

41:25

he is completely uninteresting to me, although

41:28

it seems to me he already devotes 80 percent of his

41:30

time to me. They conduct experiments on

41:34

animals — be sure to do it in the carriage

41:35

a greeting with the Kremlin in the background and a glass in hand

41:37

I’ll think about it. Give me, so to speak — oh my — the topic

41:41

the topic worries everyone. With dachshunds, they do not

41:44

conduct experiments on dachshunds. There is Sakhno

41:46

animals, first of all, on which experiments are conducted

41:49

there is a rat. Today I was just thinking, I

41:51

will say on air that experiments on shares are not

41:53

conducted, and I googled it, and, well, uh

41:55

Google tells me: you probably meant

41:57

experiments on rats. Libertarians should

42:00

realize that being young and healthy

42:01

is good, but there are also children and old sick people

42:04

this is called populism, not a violation of

42:06

the principle of liberalism, but an expansion of

42:07

humanism. An excellent answer to libertarians

42:09

and Google, in horror, gave me: you probably

42:11

mean experiments on rats, because

42:14

well, as if the little gnomes who are in

42:17

the corner counting — they were horrified

42:18

experiments on shares, and in any case, well, no

42:21

that is not how animal experiments are conducted, but

42:24

there is some kind of protocol; you definitely do not need

42:26

to film it for federal television, well, well

42:28

what happened was animal cruelty

42:31

to animals. Are you for it or against it?

42:33

free energy — well, Maltsev is for it

42:35

you know, that kind of free energy

42:37

so I can’t say whether it is really

42:41

nonsense. Animal cruelty, and also

42:44

an attempt simply to throw dust

42:46

in everyone’s eyes by demonstrating

42:48

a technology that was invented

42:50

in the 1970s, but it is simply stupidity, nonsense

42:53

and of course Dmitry Rogozin should be

42:55

ashamed — damn it, Navalny

42:57

thank you. Dmitry Rogozin should be

42:59

ashamed. Now he is trying to make up for it by

43:00

apparently adopting it, so now

43:03

we are probably imagining, somewhat bewilderedly,

43:05

Dmitry Rogozin coming home

43:07

his wife opens the door, he is standing there with a dachshund and

43:09

says: I tormented her, and therefore

43:11

I am forced

43:13

to adopt her. Well, I don’t know — looking at what

43:16

he did, we all hope that Dmitry

43:17

Rogozin will not roast her and eat her for dinner, but

43:20

all of this is very bad. According to such

43:23

an expression: people out there, chasing after train cars, world

43:25

walk over others’ heads and live without knowing sorrow

43:26

for people. I am trying to understand — do I agree with such

43:31

an expression? I don’t know, it seems very

43:33

confusing to me. I’m not ready to say. I missed

43:36

one question, which was that in the statement

43:39

by Siru Kanov it is stated that we have some kind of

43:41

bad situation with signatures. That is not at all

43:43

the case. In Moscow we only need

43:45

seven and a half thousand signatures. How

43:47

do you live under such constant pressure?

43:49

How do you cope with stress? They — well, how

43:50

to cope with stress? Reading. All these

43:52

things — this is one of the biggest

43:54

stresses I have experienced in recent

43:56

times. Things are excellent with our signatures in

43:58

Moscow, a gigantic city where only

44:00

seven and a half thousand signatures are needed

44:02

everything is very good for us. Siru Konov is simply

44:04

just lying again. Then why did he write

44:06

a week ago about how great things were for us and

44:08

post photos saying, look how many people there are

44:10

Nike verification — it is painful to watch how

44:12

reasonable people quarrel. Holiday 24

44:14

is insane, it would have been more effective than

44:16

with him. We will discuss Holiday 24 now, but

44:22

moving from that to a special subject of success

44:27

of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation — he was drowning a dachshund, and now following

44:30

our publications. Kuzmich, thank you

44:32

very much, 2,700. Remember, it’s just that

44:36

last — last week I

44:37

showed you the video, you yourselves can, you

44:39

saw it — it spread across the internet about

44:40

the special subject, the son of the head

44:44

of the Investigative Committee in Volgograd Region

44:46

who now — I will literally in just

44:48

a few seconds show what he was shouting

44:51

there are grounds, of course, I am glad, to pepper

44:57

back, and secondly, throw the lama out the door, and Putin

45:03

has decided to violate the Constitution outright. Yes, this is

45:04

a direct violation of the Constitution if he

45:06

still does not address the Federal Assembly

45:07

I believe that is a violation

45:09

so, in my previous program

45:10

I said that, well, nothing would

45:13

happen either to this man’s father or to

45:16

this man himself. Last time I, by the way,

45:17

forgot to say that this guy here

45:20

the investigators whom you will make

45:23

key ministers closer to — closer to

45:24

the end, to choose for the campaign, we will talk about that

45:26

talk with Li, who is himself

45:28

an investigator in Moscow. He ran over and killed

45:30

a person last year. After all, all of that

45:32

ended in nothing, because

45:35

they said, well, the person was drunk, but

45:37

now, looking at this — hey, I’m asleep

45:40

subject — in general, there are a great many doubts

45:43

about who there was drunk, and I

45:45

said, and I was mistaken, that with the head

45:47

of the investigative body — together we will win

45:48

thank you — saying that nothing would happen to

45:52

the head of the Investigative Committee for

45:54

Volgograd Region, whose father — I

45:56

was mistaken — something did happen to him. What happened to him?

45:59

Let’s look at the website of the

46:00

Investigative Committee of Volgograd

46:02

Region

46:03

a little picture, a little picture, a little picture will now

46:07

appear — but it is not there. But if you

46:09

go to the website of the committee

46:12

of Volgograd Region, you will catch a nice

46:13

picture of how the head of this

46:16

Investigative Committee and this very same

46:18

Papa Bastrykin, meaning the father,

46:22

this man is shaking hands with them,

46:24

and the only news, the only thing,

46:26

the only sanction the father received

46:29

was that he was presented with

46:31

an honorary badge from the Investigative Committee

46:34

for some kind of excellent work, and everything is

46:36

fine for him—in other words, he is being rewarded. Of course,

46:38

you could say that a father is not responsible for his son,

46:40

although in this situation he clearly is

46:42

responsible. Great—these idiots made him an

46:45

investigator and

46:46

are clearly covering for him, using their official

46:49

position. But good Lord, could you at least

46:52

not reward him publicly against the backdrop of

46:55

all this? It’s just impossible—they made it so that

46:59

the whole country saw all of this.

47:02

And now this person

47:03

needs to go out to some region and

47:05

in front of everyone, so that a couple of people see it,

47:07

thank him, shake his hand, say

47:09

what a fine fellow he is, so that everyone knows

47:11

all those Navalny viewers, that no matter how much

47:14

they tell you on the internet,

47:16

no matter how outraged they get, we

47:18

will support these people. The same thing, well,

47:20

only on a much more horrifying scale,

47:22

happened when, remember, Nemtsov was killed like that

47:25

and the first testimony and

47:27

evidence began to emerge that Kadyrov was involved in it,

47:29

so what did Putin do?

47:31

He rushed to reward him.

47:35

Under President Navalny, would Artsi... sea

47:37

guinea pigs... would Tesak (Maksim Martsinkevich, a Russian far-right activist) be released, or

47:39

Well, I don’t have much love for

47:41

Martsinkevich, Tesak, but judging by Article 282

47:44

he has already been convicted some number of times under it, and

47:46

despite the fact that he held some absolutely

47:49

monstrous views—I’ve said many times

47:50

that I believe everyone imprisoned under Article 282

47:53

should be released if they were not

47:55

involved in actual violence. So here

47:58

you have to look at the specifics. So, anyway,

48:02

the fact that the very worst

48:05

very specific, awful crooks are getting rewarded

48:08

—one thing really struck me this

48:12

week, and not just me, but still.

48:15

Navalny Topchik, for him, Lermontov Square

48:17

December 24. What struck me was the statement by the head

48:22

of the Pension Fund that in Russia there are no longer

48:24

any pensioners left who

48:26

are living below the poverty line.

48:29

It’s simply monstrous. In a normal

48:31

country, this should have immediately triggered

48:32

a parliamentary crisis, and all politicians, all

48:35

candidates—especially anyone who wants

48:37

to be elected—

48:38

right now, in the election campaign, should be

48:40

talking about decriminalization and amnesty.

48:42

Should they be decriminalized now? I don’t

48:45

think that’s what matters here at all. I mean,

48:46

these people are running for

48:49

president—there are lots of them.

48:51

Every day they make statements, they shout

48:53

that everyone should come to the elections, that we must

48:55

do something—well, do something right now.

48:57

Pensioners are the main voters. The head

49:00

of the Pension Fund, looking everyone in the face,

49:02

is simply lying when he says that, when he talks about

49:07

this in response to the question.

49:08

What’s stopping me from watching and replying? I

49:10

don’t have time to watch videos. Can you

49:12

imagine how many videos are recorded

49:14

by all sorts of idiots and layabouts against

49:17

me because they want me

49:18

to enter into some kind of interaction with them

49:21

so that they get more

49:22

likes and everything else. I do actual

49:25

work—I work at the Anti-Corruption Foundation

49:27

(FBK). That is my job. Alexei,

49:29

Anatoly, thank you for such an advertising

49:31

platform, for smart people there—I can see that

49:32

people get publicity for Article 282.

49:37

I don’t understand why the presidential candidates

49:39

didn’t jump on this issue. They insulted

49:43

all pensioners in Russia, and they are practically

49:47

publicly treating as idiots 100 percent

49:50

of Russia’s residents, because they created

49:51

a simple trick—they invented

49:55

the so-called pensioner subsistence minimum

49:57

which is even lower than

50:00

the official subsistence minimum, that is,

50:02

the official minimum living standard. So they

50:04

basically say there are normal people, ordinary people, and then there are

50:06

pensioners, who need a little less,

50:08

because they eat less, need less clothing, and

50:10

apparently don’t need to pay for utilities and housing services.

50:13

So this is an even lower threshold. If you

50:15

receive more than 8,000 rubles in Moscow

50:18

(about $90 / €80),

50:19

Aska, best girl in Europe, what do you

50:21

think about restricting travel abroad?

50:23

It’s a working tool, yes, but in some cases

50:25

it is necessary—just not on the scale on which

50:27

it is applied in Russia. They seriously believe

50:32

that any pensioner in

50:34

Moscow who receives more than 11,500 rubles

50:36

(about $125 / €105) is already above the poverty line.

50:38

So there you have it—not such a poor person anymore, apparently. Well,

50:40

that is brazen and insulting.

50:43

A son was born to me in

50:44

... and we at Kazantip congratulate you on

50:46

the birth of your son. And that is how all state

50:50

statistics are built, you understand—like this.

50:52

That is how they say that people in Russia are not

50:54

so poor, that wages are not so low,

50:56

because they set these

50:57

subsistence minimums. If only Anton

50:59

Drozdov, the head of the Pension Fund, whose apartment

51:02

worth a billion rubles (about $11 million / €10 million) we uncovered,

51:04

could try living in Moscow on 11,500 rubles

51:08

a month—I’d like to see what would happen to him. But

51:11

this is, of course, absolutely outrageous

51:12

and I’m saying it once again.

51:15

I wrote about this before. I would like all

51:17

presidential candidates to speak about it.

51:19

If they are not talking about it, if they are not

51:21

discussing it, then once again, they simply are not.

51:23

real candidates, and I want to express

51:26

my gratitude to Yevgeny Roizman

51:28

for drawing attention to this.

51:30

Let's watch a very short clip and see what

51:31

Roizman—a hands-on practitioner, a city mayor—has to say

51:34

about this minimum.

51:35

of pensioners. Hello everyone, this is Yevgeny

51:39

Roizman. The Russian Pension Fund has stated

51:41

that there are no longer any people in Russia

51:43

whose pensions are below the subsistence minimum

51:46

level.

51:47

Explaining this to everyone: such pensioners could disappear

51:50

only in one case—if they

51:52

have died. In our region right now, the minimum pension

51:54

is 8,800 rubles, and in fact there are a great many such people.

51:57

At the same time, you have to understand

51:59

that their utility bills are often 5,000 to 6,000 rubles,

52:02

with all that implies, and they come in and

52:06

say: here, look at the bill—

52:10

there's nothing left to save on. Here's my pension, look.

52:13

Tell me, how am I supposed to live on this money?

52:16

How am I even supposed to get around by tram,

52:18

how am I supposed to go grocery shopping?

52:20

And they may come in wearing

52:22

a coat from around 1980,

52:24

still making do with old things.

52:26

Stop turning a good program

52:29

into a circus, guys. I admit

52:31

my mistake—it was the wrong

52:32

decision.

52:33

I did promise at the beginning

52:35

of the program that I would read everything, so I'm reading it. Running for president—

52:38

I keep my promises. Roizman drew

52:40

attention to this. By the way, Gulya (likely a channel/user name) also

52:42

wrote about it on her Telegram channel.

52:43

But the presidential hopefuls are silent.

52:45

That is absolutely wrong and bad.

52:49

I have several more topics here, but I

52:51

would still like to move on to the Day

52:52

of Free Elections on December 24. All of this is

52:56

the most important topic, the key

52:58

political confrontation taking place

52:59

right now—and it is already a political

53:01

confrontation not even between citizens,

53:03

but between one authority and another.

53:07

When Alexei Navalny, or the staff of the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation), or

53:09

anyone else, excuse me, says that

53:11

talking heads were being used—well, that is

53:13

just a simple example of going too far, for example.

53:14

A Black Mirror-type situation. Yes, I myself fell into that

53:17

trap too. Once again, I promised, so I'm reading. When

53:20

Navalny files an application, you can

53:22

say: well, he and some citizens—

53:24

they may represent someone, or they may not.

53:26

Yes, Navalny represents

53:28

many people, but we do not know how many

53:29

exactly he represents, although in Moscow, as we know,

53:31

he received 30 percent of the vote.

53:32

So some kind of Moscow

53:35

Kremlin-backed authority

53:36

has no right to deny him something. Here we

53:38

see a situation in which people went to

53:41

the polls and simply crushed United Russia

53:44

—Putin, Sobyanin, and everyone else—

53:46

specifically in their own district. They are the authority there.

53:49

People came and voted for them in

53:51

fair elections, despite the fact that they had

53:53

much worse, naturally,

53:54

starting conditions than United Russia.

53:56

They formed a majority

53:58

and, in the most literal sense of the

54:01

law, they became the authority. They elected Yashin

54:03

as the representative from the municipal assembly, and within

54:05

their powers they are doing many

54:07

great things. They are genuinely working for

54:09

us.

54:10

And that has greatly irritated Moscow City Hall.

54:12

What would you do about Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

54:14

As for Abkhazia and South Ossetia, let them live

54:16

and prosper, but I do not think Russia

54:19

should finance them. We do not have enough money

54:21

to be sending it there.

54:23

And now, within

54:28

their powers, they have announced

54:30

that they will hold a Day of Free Elections.

54:31

It is a municipal holiday; they have every

54:33

right to do it, and everyone living in Moscow has seen similar things

54:35

a hundred times.

54:38

Events like this—organized by district initiative groups on the 24th in the capital—

54:40

thank you very much, a birthday, a

54:43

cookie day, a marmalade day—this

54:47

happens constantly in Moscow. But a Day

54:49

of Free Elections? Oh no, that is forbidden, prohibited.

54:52

What does the government do? Its completely

54:54

classic trick. There was already

54:55

a statement: so, a rally like this, a rally

54:57

like that.

54:58

They always do the same thing. Regarding the

55:00

holiday on December 24, first of all

55:02

they are trying to confuse us and

55:05

shift the focus of the discussion.

55:08

Just a week ago, on the previous program, everything

55:10

was clear: the municipal deputies, within

55:12

their powers, announced

55:13

a holiday, and City Hall would not let them hold it.

55:15

After that, some kind of

55:18

application for a rally appeared, which for some reason

55:21

Dmitry Gudkov submitted. What would you do

55:26

if Putin offered you the post

55:28

of prosecutor general under Putin's

55:30

regime? The post of prosecutor general

55:31

has no significance at all, because all

55:33

key political decisions are made

55:35

by Putin himself.

55:36

They took the application to City Hall, and City Hall absolutely

55:39

illegally accepted that application, in violation

55:41

of the deadlines, and approved that rally.

55:43

Naturally, while refusing everything else to people.

55:46

After that, Yashin, of course,

55:48

became outraged, Gudkov withdrew the application,

55:50

and now we are already discussing some kind of

55:52

who did what there, and whether we were

55:55

supposed to go to the rally, or whatever,

55:58

everyone is writing about getting under OMON batons (riot police batons).

56:00

What OMON batons? Where did

56:02

OMON batons suddenly come from when the local authorities

56:04

are the authorities?

56:05

They are announcing a holiday, and yet we are discussing this instead.

56:08

Nonsense. They do this all the time. They are very

56:11

cunning people. In fact, they are

56:14

you can't really catch them out except in

56:17

one thing: that they actually have

56:20

people with advanced degrees and professors and so on

56:22

engaged in lies, deceit, and manipulation, in fact

56:25

.

56:25

Whether in the Kremlin, the mayor's office, or the Central Election Commission,

56:27

they are really holding meetings about how

56:30

to deceive everyone more effectively, and

56:33

and remember how, with marches and rallies about

56:35

renovation, there was a huge protest movement,

56:37

after which the mayor's office itself, with the help of

56:39

its puppet people, organized

56:42

some kind of rally against renovation, and that

56:44

rally turned into complete chaos; I was

56:46

there with my family,

56:48

and then after that the initiative

56:50

group split apart. Where is the

56:51

protest movement against renovation now?

56:53

It's gone. Remember, they did exactly the same thing

56:56

in 2011 and 2012. They

56:59

always do this. We need to be clear-eyed

57:00

about the fact that we are dealing with very cunning,

57:03

very deceitful people, and here there is only one way

57:06

to fight them: we must ask ourselves

57:09

what would be the most proper and

57:11

morally right thing to do in this case.

57:13

As for criticism of this campaign in the country

57:15

by Anatoly Shariy, I'm for you—well, I...

57:17

On the one hand, I'm glad that people about Shariy

57:20

sent 3,000 rubles (about $30–35). Once again, I really

57:23

don't think anything about him. A huge number

57:25

of various commentators are critical

57:26

of me on the internet. I

57:28

try to respond to criticism from people who are

57:30

more decent and respectable, and

57:33

I don't watch and am not going to watch

57:35

some person's videos. They rented such venues

57:38

for the zone.

57:40

Meduza (an independent Russian media outlet) has excellent political figures

57:42

In your view, are there any plans to create and

57:44

oversee your own project of that kind? Well, we

57:46

are not ready to create an entire media outlet; we already

57:48

have a ton of work as it is. So when we

57:50

see all this trash into which

57:52

every public

57:54

event turns, where the authorities try

57:56

with the help of either misled or

57:58

controlled people to create confusion,

58:00

we need to ask the question: what is the

58:02

right and moral, ethically sound thing

58:04

to do under the law? The right thing is

58:08

this holiday organized by municipal deputies,

58:09

because someone doing the right thing for you

58:12

Mikhail Pozharsky wrote that it is impossible

58:14

to fight for freedom and to fight for

58:17

fair elections through dishonest

58:19

organized events. That is,

58:21

when everything is done through trickery,

58:23

it can never serve a normal

58:26

good end. So if we are for the law,

58:29

then we are for the law; we must always

58:31

stand on the ground of moral rightness. We

58:34

are for you, and Kim Jong-un-style or Lukashenko-style methods

58:37

should be rejected. Great—good health to you,

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take care of yourself.

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So I certainly believe that Ilya

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Yashin is absolutely right about this. Let's watch

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literally one minute from his

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speech; if anyone hasn't seen it, watch

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the whole thing—it's a very good speech.

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For now, here's the short version.

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Hello everyone, my name is Ilya Yashin, and I

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am forced to address all residents

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of Moscow in connection with the lawlessness that

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the mayor's office has created around the event called the Day

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of Free Elections on December 24. Using the example

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of the Krasnoselsky District, it is important for us

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to clearly demonstrate how

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normal deputies differ from

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the tiresome United Russia party members, and how

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a deputy who truly

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represents his voters can work. They were

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appointed by the administration's decision, whereas we, in

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accordance with our lawful

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powers, initiated on December 24

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a district holiday, the Day of Free Elections.

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And as soon as we made this—I emphasize—

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legal decision of a lawfully elected

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council of deputies,

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the mayor's office effectively declared war on us.

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For the mayor's office, it is fundamentally important to confirm

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its monopoly right to approve

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any street activity, whether

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rallies and marches or a district holiday.

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So let no one in the mayor's office or in United Russia

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harbor any illusions: we will stand our ground

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and defend the rights of local self-government

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with all our strength. On December 24 at 3:00 p.m., I will be

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at Lermontov Square. I am sure that

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together with me there will be truly

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independent deputies, my neighbors, and

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citizens who believe in Russia's future.

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We have raised a truly important issue,

1:00:11

so I ask everyone to help spread

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this video.

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That was amazing, because I can remember, unlike

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Putin, even though I'm not

1:00:21

being interrupted. Actually, that's not true—I have already forgotten half

1:00:22

the questions. There was a question about... well, alright.

1:00:24

Um, and with everyone who won the contest

1:00:27

we'll settle up this week. There was a question

1:00:29

about

1:00:31

the law on animal cruelty.

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Of course, I support it. There was also a question

1:00:36

just now, I think, about the fact that

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in Stavropol people are for you—thank you—about the fact that

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you have enough time for Chaika and Medvedev

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but not for Shariy. Yes, that's absolutely true. I

1:00:45

would like to concentrate on

1:00:47

Medvedev, Chaika, and everyone else. So, now about

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Yashin.

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You know, as I would put it, for me

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there is an important event on Sunday, and I

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cannot do anything that

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would allow our esteemed police officers

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and everyone else to detain me before the 24th for

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some kind of call to go somewhere or do something—I think that

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on the 24th, by law, and the event is being organized by

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the deputies of the Krasnoselsky District, and they

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are doing a great job. I know that already

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right now they’ve already brought in

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an ad—I won’t read it—they’ve already brought in

1:01:22

a pen, or pressed the button to record

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What would you say, Navalny? I’d put it this way:

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under no circumstances should you come to

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the Day, the holiday of free elections, but I cannot

1:01:34

under any circumstances call on people to come to this

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Day of Free Elections in anger

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Lermontovsky Square at 3:00 p.m. on December 24

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Let’s all make sure that

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please, don’t be Putin—sorry

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please, Happy New Year in advance

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Luzin and Mari Anatolyevna, I’m not Putin

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Let’s all make it so that as few

1:01:53

Muscovites as possible find out about this

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wonderful, great holiday—the Day

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of Free Elections, which will take place at

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Lermontovsky Square, near Krasnye Vorota metro station

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at 3:00 p.m. on the 24th, because

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such great municipal

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deputies will be speaking up for their rights there

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there will be many of them, from different districts, and

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of course, let’s absolutely not

1:02:19

do anything that would make lots of people

1:02:23

come there. I know that Yashin will be there, and I

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think he’s doing a great job. I wouldn’t

1:02:32

put it exactly like that, very clearly. I have

1:02:35

plans on the 24th, in the morning, but I think

1:02:40

that I personally, for this holiday on the 24th at

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3:00 p.m.—Turgenevsky

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Square—Lermontovsky, sorry

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Lermontovsky Square, Krasnye Vorota metro station

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I think I might make it, but of course I

1:02:58

don’t want you to do everything possible so that

1:03:00

more people find out about it

1:03:02

I’m certainly not urging you to come to

1:03:04

this event, because it is a very

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proper and good event, of course

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you definitely should never go to proper

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good, honest events

1:03:12

Have you seen the film *The Fool*? There was a line in it:

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“Things here will never be any different, never.”

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What do you think—are there any chances of bringing

1:03:18

order to Russia, raising salaries, and so on?

1:03:20

Is that unrealistic? An excellent closing

1:03:22

question. It is realistic, and for it to become

1:03:24

real, we have to do the right

1:03:26

things. So please take part in

1:03:30

the initiative groups supporting my nomination

1:03:31

in 20 cities across Russia. Do the right

1:03:34

things, and we do not want some lines

1:03:37

from the film *The Fool* to hang over us, over

1:03:39

our lives. This is our country.

1:03:40

Under no circumstances, in no case,

1:03:43

do not come on the 24th to Lermontovsky

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Square, and make sure that as few

1:03:50

people as possible do not come there with you

1:03:52

See you next Thursday. I won’t

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make such a stupid mistake again and read

1:03:58

all the questions one after another. Thank you very much.

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