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Good evening to everyone who is in strict

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self-isolation and quarantine, and good evening to everyone else as well.

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It is exactly 8:00 p.m. in Moscow,

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which means we are live with

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the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its host,

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Alexei Navalny, or "the madman with pale

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eyes," as Milonov called me.

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Let's listen to him, because I don't

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know a single normal person

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who is ready to pay

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to vote for that madman with pale

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eyes. Really, he doesn't know the political mood at all.

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He says he doesn't know a single such person, but nevertheless,

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30 percent of people in Moscow voted for me.

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Apparently my eyes

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seemed perfectly normal to them. Please send me

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your questions, suggestions, and

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complaints with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture on

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Twitter. We won't be putting them on screen,

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but I will be reading them and trying to answer

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them during the program. Thank you very much

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and under the video player where

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you are watching, there is a button that says "Become a sponsor."

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So, two thousand

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nine hundred eighty-seven people

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clicked that button—not just clicked

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that button, but actually subscribed

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program. Thank you so much.

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That's great. Now, of course, we are thinking

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about how to entertain you, because for

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these three thousand people we will have to

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make separate content. We will be doing a little of that—

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answering questions and things like that.

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And despite the fact that I will begin with the fact that

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the topic of the coronavirus is not just

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dominating the news agenda—it has

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somehow completely scorched the entire information

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space. Practically nothing is being discussed

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except the coronavirus—coronavirus and

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a little bit of Putin. But in any case,

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some issues on the agenda are very important, and we

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will discuss them.

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I will start with Lyubov Sobol, the producer of this

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channel, who this week announced her

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intention to run for the State Duma.

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That is absolutely the right move. More than that, I think

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the timing is completely right,

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and well chosen, despite the fact that

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there is the coronavirus and so on. But still,

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the response to Putin's madness with

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resetting presidential term limits should be that

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all kinds of young, wonderful—and not so

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young, simply wonderful—

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politicians clearly state their plans and

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ask us for support. Let's

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watch 56 seconds from our Sobol.

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How can we say that we agree

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with being treated like this? My answer to that

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has always been: in every election, vote against

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United Russia, against candidates from

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United Russia, and against candidates

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who appear to be independents but are

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supported by United Russia.

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They really do not want that, because

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they know that if people vote against them,

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they will lose.

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Metyelsky, the head of the Moscow branch

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of United Russia, lost, and they can lose too.

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Along with them, a very important

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battle will also be lost by Putin himself, because

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the State Duma today is one big

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collective legislative Putin. It is

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a continuation of Putin, one of his

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many tentacles. We can deprive him

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of this tentacle. I will be taking part

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in

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the 2021 State Duma elections in

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the Central single-member

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electoral district.

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You saw how softly our Lyubov says:

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this is one of Putin's tentacles, and we can

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take that tentacle away from him. And she is absolutely

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right. I will repeat once again:

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it's great that she has put herself forward, because

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personally, I am against the kind of strategy where,

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you know, all sorts of politicians sit around

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doing absolutely nothing,

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and then three months before the election

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they suddenly pop up from nowhere and say, "I will run

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in this district, I will run in that district." Well,

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first of all, that creates a huge amount of

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unnecessary competition. Competition

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will always exist, of course, yes, but it can be

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resolved through primaries. But most importantly,

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we as voters clearly understand it, and

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after some time we can ask

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Sobol in particular: well, you

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announced your candidacy—what have you done?

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And what are you planning to do? And I would like

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first of all to ask everyone else the same

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questions, and secondly to see what they are doing—

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some useful work. When a person has already

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declared their candidacy, we understand that they are fighting for

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the support of their voters, that they are responsible for something,

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that they are doing something. That is great. Until

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specific politicians who

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lead people are engaged in

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clear, concrete things and

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implement specific

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plans that are understandable to everyone else,

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the opposition will remain weaker than we would like.

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That is why I support Sobol, and I urge all of you

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to support Sobol, and I urge everyone

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else to put themselves forward too, instead of just

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doing what happened last time, when, you know, there were only two

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weeks left before nominations closed and the messages started:

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"Alexei, I would like to discuss with you

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my candidacy. Alexei, how

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can we talk about support in this district

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or that district?" I mean, of course we will talk

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to everyone, and everyone will want to get into

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Smart Voting, but why not

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start working with voters right now,

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go out there, go door to door in apartment buildings?

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to talk about what’s happening, people

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say we should address both the federal agenda

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and the local agenda, and it would also be

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great if

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there were 225 districts in Russia, and in each of them there was

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some person who, already now,

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under our slogans, under opposition

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slogans against Putin, against United

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Russia, was doing active work. Yes, that would be

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very good. I see Daniil is asking

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me a naive question:

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“Alexei, why didn’t you run in

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the State Duma elections?”

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Because I’m not allowed to. Putin, on the other hand, is allowed

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to run again and again—he reset

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One of the more popular tweets on my

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Twitter lately was when I wrote

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that an interesting thing is happening with

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our Constitution: the Constitution

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explicitly prohibited Putin from running for

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a third consecutive term, and it does not allow

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him to become

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president once again. But the Constitution explicitly

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allows me to take part in elections at any

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level. Nevertheless, in practice

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I’m not allowed onto the ballot, while Putin is running for

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another term. That’s how everything

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is arranged.

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Despite the fact that I won in

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the European Court of Human Rights and

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proved that the cases against me were

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fabricated, I am still, supposedly,

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a repeat criminal, and therefore I

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am not allowed to run. So, Ivan

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Bukhonov asks me, “Alexei,

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tell us, how accurate is the information

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about a possible lockdown of Moscow? We’ll talk about that later

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when we discuss the coronavirus. So, what

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does ‘closing Moscow’ even mean?

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What, are they going to block the roads with tanks and not

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let anyone into Moscow or out of

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Moscow? I think that’s unlikely and

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generally impossible. But in principle, I

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support tightening quarantine measures, and

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now, well, schools have finally

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closed. I think universities should have been closed long ago

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—all universities.

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Because more vigilance is better than

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less vigilance. But as for some kind of

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apocalyptic scenarios, like

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you know, all of us sitting at home,

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streets being patrolled by soldiers in

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full gear, shooting at people for

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trying to run to the store for a loaf of bread—

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of course that won’t happen. In no

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country in the world is anything like that happening, and in

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that sense, there is definitely no need to give in to

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panic. Moscow is not going to be ‘closed.’ If anything

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is shut down, it may be certain institutions, which

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would only be a good thing. This morning I went

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to check in, like a criminal, at the

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criminal supervision inspectorate

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(the penal enforcement inspectorate)—that definitely should have been shut down long ago too.

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It’s a breeding ground for coronavirus there; those

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poor employees sit there, and

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all sorts of people come in, including people

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who lead fairly asocial

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lives. It’s obvious that it’s just a chaotic mess

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where all kinds of bacteria and viruses

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spread. You could certainly

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for example, for two or three months

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suspend the work of such institutions and

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in general, of such government bodies

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whose necessity is not exactly

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obvious—sorry for putting it that way, but

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I mean, you could suspend the criminal inspectorate

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temporarily for several months

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and of course that should be done. So,

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Vladislav is asking about

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the Constitutional Court. I’ll explain everything now, but

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before moving on

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to the term reset and the Constitutional Court,

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Putin, this week, generally speaking, right now

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with this new run of his, has had to

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talk a lot. He is constantly making appearances, and

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of course he is spouting some truly

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astonishing nonsense. Basically, he always talks this kind of

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astonishing nonsense, but now, against the backdrop of

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what is probably, among other things, nervous

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tension—after all, this is an important

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moment for him—

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to go ahead and reset all his terms, that is,

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to do what he denied for all 20 years, and

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now he still has to keep a straight face and

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go through with it. So apparently

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some things are kind of slipping out

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—he just keeps talking, talking

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and talking, he can’t

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stop. Let’s look at several different quotes from him.

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One of them was especially good: this week he was once again

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outraged by the rise in gasoline prices.

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And that’s amazing. There are compilations

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—many different compilations—showing how he

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every year, several times a year, for 20 years

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in a row, is outraged by the

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rise in gasoline prices. And for the last several

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years, he’s been outraged that

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gasoline prices are rising while oil prices are falling. Let’s

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listen to what he said this

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week: “AI-92 gasoline over the year has risen not even by 10, but

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by 44... appreciate that...”

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“I’m not even talking now about the fact that

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oil has fallen by almost half. Well, fine, it would be good

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if prices stayed at the previous level.”

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“Wonderful. Profits have been cut in half...”

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“The Ministry of Energy is keeping

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the situation under control. We need to understand that, in

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principle,”

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“gasoline includes many components... but nevertheless...”

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“I understand, I understand, nevertheless...”

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“We’ll work it through... did you hear that?”

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“All right then, enough—give them a kick.”

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“Pay attention to this, all right? Over the year...”

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“Well, all right, over the previous months...”

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“Oil prices collapsed, simply collapsed.”

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“It used to reach 65 to 70, now it’s around 30...”

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...”

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“Take a look at it somehow, all right.”

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Such an amazing dialogue, so there it is.

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What happens is that the price of oil falls, while

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gasoline prices go up. And this is, this is little

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Patrushev Jr. (the son of Nikolai Patrushev, former head of Russia’s Security Council), the head of the council

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security, the former head of the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service), and we

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hear: yes, we just sort of

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told him, he didn’t know. It’s going up? Well, actually,

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all right, my colleagues and I will work through this

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issue. What does that even mean? Could you please

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work through this issue? Yes, Vladimir,

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Vladimir, we will work through this issue. In

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2014, let’s listen to the same thing.

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They were saying exactly the same thing: how can it be that the price of

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gasoline is already rising? There are some

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things — he was told about this, and publicly too. I

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already spoke about this when we met with the project,

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for example, gasoline prices, prices

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for food products.

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This needs to be dealt with, and it needs to be dealt with

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in such, in such, in a situation like this, under such

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conditions, it has to be handled, no matter who

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criticizes it, specifically in manual mode (direct personal intervention by the top leadership), and

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get to work. So in 2014 he says

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that now they’re going to handle this here in manual

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mode and work through this issue.

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Four years pass, and then comes

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2018. What does Putin tell us?

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But if we come back to it, I can

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talk about it in more detail, but, but

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overall,

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even though it’s under manual control, overall

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it worked, and I hope it will continue to work the same way.

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Keep working so that there simply won’t be

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any spikes in the growth of prices for

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petroleum products next year.

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That was in 2018: the government will not allow it.

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And nevertheless, spikes

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do happen, despite the fact that the price of

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oil is falling.

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And so their answer is always the same: we’ll work through

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this issue. Everyone knows why the price

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of gasoline is rising: because we are in the realm of

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monopolies. Whose?

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Putin’s best friend Sechin’s. Because

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he was the one who created these state or

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state-backed giants; they have taken over the whole country.

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Monopoly in Russia is, generally speaking, the main

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word in the economy.

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And here Ksyusha asks me:

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Alexei, how far does the price of

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oil have to fall for Putin’s system to collapse?

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Is there such a calculation? No, Ksyusha, there is no such calculation, and

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unfortunately there cannot be one. If we are talking about

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the possibility that the price of oil could fall very sharply

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and there would be much less money,

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dear Ksyusha, Putin’s regime will not

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fall on its own. It will not go away without

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some effort on our part. Look at what is happening in

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Venezuela — there is simply

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an absolute economic collapse there, and yet

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the Maduro regime still stands. What happened

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in Zimbabwe? It was completely destroyed. You saw

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the many photographs of how people, in order

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to buy a bag of chips, were hauling

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money in a cart — literally in a

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cart stuffed with money, billions

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and trillions — and yet Mugabe’s regime

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did not simply fall. It requires some

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effort from us. But of course, when we

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look at all this, in particular

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when he comments on gasoline and pretends that

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there is no elephant in the room — this giant elephant

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called Sechin’s monopoly — I [mean], all the rest of it,

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the entire gasoline trade is squeezed by it,

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as if it doesn’t exist. It’s just absurd.

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‘Work through this issue’ — it’s like a joke about

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working through it. Two years will pass, and then they’ll say:

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Guys, so how are you working through

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this issue over there? Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin’s first name and patronymic, a formal mode of address), we

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were working through the issue last week, and

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starting this week we will begin working through

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the issue even more actively. Well, all right, but

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just remember that there is no time

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to waste. Please, keep working through it.

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We will keep working through it.

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And that’s how it goes — just this endless

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discussion of who knows what, because

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in reality nothing is being done. And

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continuing on the subject of Putin’s interview,

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right now I myself am waiting with great anticipation

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for

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— well, that’s not quite the right way to put it —

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I’m eagerly waiting for the next episode in their

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series to come out.

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This amazing series, which

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is produced by the state news agency TASS,

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what’s it called — *20 Questions for Putin*?

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Putin is asked questions,

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and they post them. It’s actually great, I mean

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the journalist who undertook

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this whole thing clearly started it as

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some kind of sycophantic project, and there

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are people helping him. I already talked about it here on the program:

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they put fake statistics

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on the screens when Putin is spouting

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obvious nonsense. But nevertheless, the questions

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they ask are fairly interesting, and it’s clear that

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Putin, being absolutely prepared for

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these questions, knowing that these questions

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would be asked, still answers with such utter nonsense that when we

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look at these questions and the answers to

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them, we can understand the depth of the bottom to which

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we will sooner or later sink

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if Putin remains in power, because

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one person

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Let’s listen to his answer to the question

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about the salaries of the heads of state corporations.

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You understand, it clearly bothers him — this, this

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is a very important question, truly

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very important, because the whole country

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is baffled as to why there are such gigantic

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salaries for Sechin,

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for Gref, for Miller — far higher than everyone else’s.

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And Putin appoints these people, and

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Putin sets their salaries. But when

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he gets this question, he’s like: well yes, I don’t like it either.

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Listen, by the way, speaking of incomes,

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how does that square with our state corporations?

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When it comes to market-rate salaries, a manager here

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it really doesn’t add up when they’re paid badly. I

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agree with you. Listen, it really gets under my skin

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— it bothers me too. So, a top

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manager earns a million rubles a day.

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Somehow, taking everything into account, but as for that, I

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wouldn’t go that far. No, about that — I don’t know, but

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it’s definitely too much, I agree with you.

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I agree with you. Well, if I agree,

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you can’t imagine how many letters I’ve actually

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written saying: guys, you have no right

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to pay such gigantic salaries. All

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Buru once made a really great

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Just create, in silence — well, not exactly in

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silence, except for my voice — can we

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just show right now how this

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website works? Its address is maniivbk.info.

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There’s nothing there except a counter. You

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see, if you go there right now, you’ll

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just stare at the screen and watch

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how, in real time,

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the numbers keep rising. Look — while I was speaking just now,

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they earned 1,300 rubles, 1,400 rubles

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— Kostyan, 1,100. That’s how it works.

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That’s how it works, and, and...

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And these are still data from two or three years ago.

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By now they’re earning much

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more. If you go there, you won’t be able

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to take your eyes off it. Probably, if we hadn’t

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removed that counter by now — and before

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this moment, if it had kept going, they would already have

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each earned 17,000 rubles,

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which, as we know,

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is considered a middle-class salary in

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Russia. We’ll definitely talk about that.

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Everyone knows this, everyone discusses it

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endlessly, everyone is endlessly outraged, and

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everyone understands perfectly well that it is specifically

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Vladimir Putin who is the person

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who allowed them to receive such

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salaries, because the pay of the heads

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of state corporations in Russia has long ceased to be

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market-based. It is far higher than any

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market salary, and certainly higher

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than what these people ought to be earning

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if they were working in a market

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economy, especially considering that they

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have wrecked things. Just look at the achievements

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of Miller

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as head of Gazprom, or

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Sechin’s achievements at the helm of Rosneft.

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These people have simply failed at their jobs.

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They have wrecked the companies; their market capitalization

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has shrunk. I mean, come on —

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they are very bad managers, and they

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receive fantastic salaries that

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even very good managers in the

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West do not receive. Putin personally made all this happen. He

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understands that people don’t like it,

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and so he acts like, well yes, it bothers me too,

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but at the same time, like, what can I

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do? Well, that’s how they were appointed — not

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because we’re like that, it’s just life, and that’s

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— well, it’s simply hypocrisy, of course.

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It’s always very unpleasant to watch, but the

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size of this hypocrisy, its scale,

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keeps growing and growing. Today — well, the other day —

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the day before yesterday,

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Proekt (an independent Russian investigative outlet) released something exactly on this

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topic.

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An absolutely excellent investigation.

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You can find it on YouTube, you can

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go to their site. This investigation is connected with

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the mistress of Eduard Khudainatov, a

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guy who used to head the company Ros

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neft. I mean, I don’t know him personally, but back in the day

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when I was suing Rosneft and

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all that mess, I wrote letters about him too. Then he was replaced by

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Sechin. It’s generally believed that he

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is one of Sechin’s money men. In the

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Proekt investigation, they stubbornly do not

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say this outright, but it is basically

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implied. Apparently they’re afraid that

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he’ll sue them. Anyway, this man

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headed the state oil company Rosneft.

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The investigation concerns a woman named

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— Lord — Marina Amafia, Marina

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Amafia. She is, I don’t know, his common-law wife,

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his mistress — call it whatever you like.

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In general, Khudainatov’s personal life

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doesn’t really interest us in itself. What does interest us

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is that somewhere on Kutuzovsky Prospekt (a major avenue in Moscow)

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you can find this Marina

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Amafia’s flagship store, and what she does is

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produce perfumes, and a bottle there

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costs $10,000. When I

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looked, I didn’t even suspect that such a thing

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could exist. It’s hard for me to imagine how

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there could be a person, even a super-rich

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person, who would buy perfume for 10

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thousand dollars. It’s just so absurdly

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beyond reason — and simply meaningless.

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Such a thing shouldn’t even exist.

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Perfume for $10,000. But there is a

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special legend behind it: that there was some mega-

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perfumer who once made perfume

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for Napoleon, and Napoleon was so

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delighted with it that he supposedly said

20:44

it would be for him alone, and no one else

20:46

was to dare wear it — but then

20:48

the perfumer killed himself, and the legend says

20:51

— this is all written on the website of this

20:53

Marina Amafia.

20:56

The perfumer killed himself, then apparently someone

20:58

informed on him to Napoleon, and Napoleon supposedly said he should be

21:00

shot, and

21:02

the recipe was lost until it was revived in

21:06

a descendant of that perfumer, by the name of Marina

21:09

Amafia,

21:10

to whom, of course, through her genetic code,

21:12

the exquisite recipe for this

21:15

perfume was passed down, and that is why she now produces it.

21:17

That’s why the perfume is so expensive and exclusive,

21:20

costing $10,000 a bottle. And all of this is financed by

21:23

none other than Khudainatov himself,

21:25

who worked at the state

21:28

company Rosneft. And in Proekt’s investigation

21:30

it is recounted very amusingly that

21:31

Of course, all of this is a perfect example

21:35

of Putin's aristocracy. This young woman

21:38

Marina Amafia was once a woman by the

21:41

name of—I don't remember exactly, something ordinary, like

21:43

Marina Porosenochkina, or something like that.

21:45

Marina—I don't know—Petrova, some common new surname.

21:47

She worked somewhere at McDonald's, just normally,

21:50

worked there, then worked as a flight attendant.

21:51

Then she met Khudainatov,

21:54

changed her last name to Amafia, and

21:56

declared herself a direct descendant of the aristocracy,

21:59

a direct descendant of Napoleon, and then went all in.

22:01

A billion here, a billion there,

22:04

private jets,

22:05

palaces, everything else. Let's take a look

22:07

at 50 seconds from this investigation.

22:10

Khudainatov's lover owns

22:12

an estate in Zarechye, on Rublyovo-Uspenskoye Highway

22:14

(an elite residential area outside Moscow).

22:15

Its approximate value is 5 billion rubles.

22:18

In the company's founding documents,

22:20

Marina Amafia lists her address in

22:22

Cyprus.

22:22

It is the Coral Sea complex of luxury villas in

22:25

the city of Paphos.

22:26

Approximate value: €600,000. Marina

22:29

Amafia drives only luxury

22:31

cars: Bentley, Mercedes-Benz, and

22:33

Porsche.

22:34

Eduard Khudainatov's son, Alexei, also

22:36

owns a luxurious estate.

22:38

Though recently he put it up

22:40

for sale for nearly 2 billion rubles.

22:43

Eduard Khudainatov's own house

22:45

is located nearby, a 10-minute walk

22:47

from Marina Amafia's mansion, and the land alone

22:49

there may be worth more than 2 billion

22:51

rubles.

22:52

Khudainatov's first wife, Marina, owns

22:54

a mansion in the Rechnoye settlement;

22:56

it may be worth around 600 million rubles.

22:59

The same goes for the house of Eduard's brother,

23:00

Khudainatov, Zhan, who settled in

23:03

the Zhukovka-3 settlement.

23:06

This is Putin's aristocracy, you understand, and all

23:09

of this is given to them by the state-owned company

23:11

Rosneft—our state company, yours and mine.

23:14

But for some reason it did not give you

23:17

a pay raise, it did not give you

23:20

better healthcare, it did not give you

23:22

better education, but to some

23:23

obscure women it bought billion-ruble

23:26

houses. Khudainatov himself, back in the 1990s,

23:29

described in his biography how he

23:32

built a cafeteria somewhere in that

23:34

town. Well, that's wonderful, excellent.

23:36

He built a cafeteria and still managed to rise

23:38

into the oil business, and that's all very well, let

23:41

him be a rich man—but not

23:42

that rich. You can become rich

23:44

by heading a state company, but he

23:46

did, and now they sit there in

23:49

their beautiful chalets and their

23:53

castles, which they buy in

23:55

Russia, Spain, Italy—wherever they want.

23:57

They douse each other in perfume that costs

24:00

$10,000 per bottle, and really

24:03

they are the masters of life. What is so

24:05

disgusting is that everyone else—and

24:07

Putin looks at all this and says, well, yes,

24:09

well, it bothers me too, it rubs me the wrong way,

24:11

but maybe somehow we should start

24:14

investigating the origin of this

24:16

wealth? But no, that does not happen

24:19

at all.

24:20

Unfortunately. Take a look

24:22

at the investigation—it's very funny, I see

24:24

a lot of people, 49,000 people may be

24:26

watching us live, and our link for online

24:29

donations

24:30

when ducks swim across the screen, or

24:32

Medvedev pops up there, or whoever else—but

24:34

this was Margarita Simonyan's people who knocked it out

24:36

last time, again. This all started

24:39

when the investigation came out

24:41

about Margarita Simonyan. She has a budget of

24:43

20 billion rubles. Last time,

24:45

as I understand it, throughout the whole

24:47

broadcast, for about five

24:49

minutes there was some problem, but they

24:51

put this link for

24:52

online donations on the screen, and now they brazenly

24:55

—as I understand it—

24:56

it isn't working, I'm being told. Well,

24:59

what can I say: Margarita

25:02

Simonyan is spending 20 billion rubles

25:04

that she got from us on

25:08

very, very useful and effective work. I

25:10

always wonder at moments like this:

25:12

did they really sit there holding meetings,

25:14

deciding, let's make some kind of

25:18

attack on Navalny's donation link, yes, let's do it,

25:21

this will be our strike right in the back.

25:24

I mean, of course it's unpleasant.

25:25

You wanted to send me

25:28

200 rubles to support the work, and you

25:30

couldn't send it. Well, okay, but I

25:35

am simply curious how much money

25:37

they wrote off for this little stunt. 50,000

25:38

people are watching us live.

25:41

Danil asks: what do you think about

25:43

the amendment related to the supremacy of

25:45

domestic law over international law?

25:46

I see a lot of questions here about all sorts of

25:49

institutional matters.

25:50

Nikolai Dolzhenko.

25:52

Nikolai asks where Ruslan

25:54

Shaveddinov has gone, where they moved him to hide him—we

25:56

don't know. About Ruslan Shaveddinov,

25:58

only one thing is known: one

26:00

fine morning, the day before yesterday,

26:03

he woke up and was told, pack your things,

26:06

we're taking you away. They took him somewhere,

26:08

they drove him to an airfield, as his fellow servicemen wrote to us,

26:10

and after that contact with him was lost.

26:12

And we do not understand whether he was sent

26:14

deep into Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), because now he

26:16

is in some place not far from there.

26:18

There is an airfield there, but maybe some kind of

26:20

communication is possible if you arrange it with someone.

26:22

He could at least send word to his fellow servicemen, or to us,

26:24

send a message saying that Ruslan is alive and

26:26

well.

26:26

You could send someone deep into Novaya

26:30

Zemlya—it is enormous, actually, and there

26:32

there is no communication at all, and apparently twice as many

26:34

polar bears, plus

26:36

as far as we understand, some people

26:38

are being sent somewhere even farther away, even farther north.

26:40

There is also Alexandra Land, where

26:42

there is no communication whatsoever, only

26:44

satellite phones, and three times the

26:48

number of polar bears.

26:50

Polar bears, apparently. But of course, despite

26:53

the fact that I am joking, I am very concerned about what

26:55

is happening. And, in any case, if you

26:57

work for the Defense Ministry and have any

26:59

information at all—this is really a bit of a disgrace—

27:01

someone has apparently been kidnapped and taken away by boat,

27:02

we cannot find him; please let us know

27:05

what is going on. There are a great many

27:06

questions. I can already see questions about the Constitution,

27:08

about the Constitution.

27:09

What are we supposed to do in connection with this, and how do you

27:11

see it? Last

27:14

Thursday, you and I were here, and last Thursday

27:16

we were discussing it precisely while those

27:19

votes were taking place in the regions of the Russian

27:20

Federation—in all regions of the Russian

27:25

Federation there was a special

27:27

vote initiated by United Russia, and

27:28

after that the amendments were to enter into force

27:31

legally after some time; then

27:33

Putin was supposed to sign them, was supposed to

27:35

have to,

27:37

was supposed to review them, and the Constitutional Court was to consider them.

27:39

And in fact, I had planned that even on this

27:42

program—that is, a week later—you and I

27:45

still would not yet be able to discuss that all of this

27:47

had been adopted in an emergency manner,

27:48

because there was still the Constitutional Court, and there

27:50

was supposed to be some lengthy procedure, as

27:53

required—an open hearing, and so on.

27:56

And this is astonishing: the Constitutional Court—

27:59

the program was on Thursday—

28:02

the documents were submitted to the Constitutional Court on

28:05

Friday, and on Saturday they announced a

28:08

closed session. That is, in

28:10

principle, the most important hearing in the

28:13

history of the Constitutional Court,

28:16

with a nationwide vote approaching

28:18

and very important issues at stake—we expected that they

28:21

would at least stage some kind of circus, with various

28:24

lawyers and non-lawyers coming out, and all sorts of

28:26

Valentina Tereshkovas speaking to the Constitutional

28:28

Court: 'Dear Constitutional Court, we

28:30

believe this should be done this way,' and there would

28:32

be some people making speeches with pseudo-

28:33

legal opinions. In general, all of this

28:36

shows very clearly how important these amendments are to Putin

28:40

and how he is simply

28:43

trying, at a truly manic speed,

28:45

to get them adopted. That is exactly why they

28:47

scheduled their vote for April 22,

28:50

right in the middle of the coronavirus outbreak.

28:52

We will discuss all of this, but for now just consider

28:54

this: the court, in a closed session,

28:56

began deliberating on Saturday and

28:59

had already issued its ruling by Monday. And moreover,

29:01

they themselves are ashamed of this ruling, because

29:06

as I said, it was a closed session,

29:08

and to this day they have not even said who was

29:10

the reporting judge in this case; they have not disclosed

29:13

information on who voted how, who was for it and who was

29:15

against it, because this is an absolutely, massively

29:18

unlawful decision. And the court—

29:21

perhaps this is a bit harsh in wording, but nevertheless

29:23

there is simply no other way to put it—

29:25

it is a gathering of lying, elderly

29:29

prostitutes who, in reality,

29:31

traded away, well, simply their, you know,

29:34

cheap buckwheat and cheap cafeteria food,

29:39

well, of course, official dachas and official

29:40

apartments. As far as we can tell, just from a quick

29:43

look, there are no

29:46

super-rich people there.

29:47

Each of them was given a dacha in Moscow, a dacha outside

29:49

St. Petersburg, an apartment in Moscow, an apartment outside

29:51

St. Petersburg, and he built for himself this kind of

29:54

little socialism inside the Constitutional

29:56

Court. But basically, those people who

29:59

simply sold all of us out for their lousy

30:01

official apartment—because there are no countries in the world

30:04

where leaders have extended their own

30:08

powers through a referendum and

30:10

those countries then lived well. The court,

30:12

these very elderly

30:14

people understood perfectly well what they

30:16

were doing, and they did not even release their

30:18

super-mega-lying decision. It is just that when

30:21

you read the official text, and there it

30:24

officially says, in effect, that all this

30:28

can be done.

30:29

The number of terms is not a major

30:32

problem, because in Russia there is—

30:33

attention—

30:34

developed parliamentarianism, real

30:38

multi-party politics, and the presence of political

30:40

competition, as well as an effective model of

30:43

separation of powers. I mean, we all

30:46

know—and even people who support

30:49

Putin do not try to assure us that in Russia there really

30:52

is

30:53

political competition or parliamentarianism.

30:56

They rather say that we very much

30:57

do not need all that European stuff,

30:59

we do not need it, no and we do not need it. But these lying

31:03

scoundrels, in all seriousness,

31:05

say that Putin can extend his

31:07

term, his term, for as long as

31:09

he likes, because, well, there is such great

31:12

competition—after all, anyone can

31:13

take part in elections, and political

31:15

parties exist here, and parliament

31:17

is wonderful. They say this in complete seriousness,

31:19

people who work in

31:22

The Constitutional Court does not deserve

31:23

any respect at all, I mean,

31:26

someday, in the beautiful Russia of the future,

31:28

in law schools they will

31:30

study them as people who never really

31:34

were outstanding lawyers, by and large.

31:36

The Constitutional Court is simply

31:38

a bunch and a rabble of random people who

31:41

were pulled in from somewhere, from some

31:42

universities, seated in office, given those

31:45

gold chains, and they started thinking that

31:47

they were

31:47

prominent lawyers. But supposedly their very

31:49

position obliged them to

31:52

sit there for many years and

31:54

grow a little, try to become

31:56

something like genuinely

31:58

more or less distinguished figures in the field

32:01

of law, and they turned out to be, quite literally,

32:05

complete cheap hacks.

32:06

And people really will study this and

32:09

discuss it, and it is an incredibly shameful story.

32:12

I think some of them are watching this

32:16

broadcast, and they will be upset, they will

32:18

be indignant: how can they be called that?

32:19

You call them bad names, but there are no good

32:22

words to describe you. In fact,

32:24

you are cheap sellouts who sold absolutely

32:26

everything. As a lawyer, I am simply

32:28

outraged. Of course I take it to heart,

32:30

because it is impossible — they actually

32:33

literally wrote that

32:36

when deciding whether Putin can

32:40

reset his term limits or not, one must

32:41

take into account specific

32:43

historical facts

32:44

and factors. In other words, they mean that

32:47

they are effectively saying, almost verbatim: the country is

32:50

surrounded by enemies, and right now we need a leader

32:52

like Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

32:54

That is what these lawyers are saying. And yet, in

32:57

this same composition, back in 1998,

32:59

they considered the same question

33:01

regarding Yeltsin: could Yeltsin

33:04

run for a third term, because

33:06

there had also been changes to the Constitution?

33:07

And they said: no, Yeltsin cannot, but

33:09

Putin can, because the specific

33:11

historical factors are completely different now.

33:13

But of course we expected this decision,

33:16

because the chief

33:19

of the Constitutional Court, Valery Zorkin,

33:21

is known, widely known, for the fact that

33:24

in 2014 he wrote an article

33:25

like this.

33:26

He likes to show off, he writes articles,

33:28

he apparently thinks of himself as a great

33:30

thinker, and there he wrote, literally,

33:32

that serfdom, for all its

33:34

drawbacks — that is, serfdom in

33:36

Russia, in Tsarist Russia — was one of the

33:39

main bonds holding together the nation's internal

33:42

unity. It was no accident that peasants,

33:44

according to historians, said to their

33:46

former masters after the reform: you were

33:49

ours,

33:49

and we were yours. That is what they want.

33:54

You understand, they... I released a video on this

33:57

topic today, and in it I talked about how

33:58

they think we are their serfs.

34:00

Because

34:01

they really do have that attitude.

34:04

They sit there with their gold chains, in

34:06

their Mercedeses, and this whole

34:08

marinated mafia atmosphere

34:10

they give off — they genuinely think

34:13

that we should come up to them, bow down,

34:14

and say, guys, like,

34:17

we are yours, but you are a little bit ours too.

34:21

Serfdom is what makes us one.

34:23

The fact that you stole all our money while we

34:26

sit here earning 17,000 rubles (about 170 euros / 185 US dollars)

34:28

and got classified as middle class — that

34:31

is what makes us a united nation. What a

34:34

wonderful thing.

34:35

You put the stable hand there in the stable,

34:39

by the stove,

34:40

and he is grateful, because he

34:43

understands that he is a fool, that he cannot

34:45

do anything on his own, headless and helpless.

34:49

Right, he is useless, but the master guided him,

34:51

and that is the unity of the nation.

34:53

And this was written in 2014 by the man who

34:56

heads the Constitutional Court, so how

34:58

else can I call him except the chief

35:01

— well, of course, I do call him that, yes.

35:03

And then they will tell me: come on, Alexei,

35:05

you are a politician, why are you insulting the head

35:07

of the Constitutional Court? The chief of prostitutes —

35:09

that is what he is. I cannot put it any other way.

35:11

He betrayed all of us, he sold all of us out for

35:14

some shabby official apartment of his own.

35:16

Putin will stay there, he will remain in power until

35:19

we finally remove him from

35:21

power, but by that time Russia

35:23

will have fallen dramatically behind, and simply

35:25

all of us will be in very bad shape. When I

35:30

was talking about how

35:34

the Constitutional Court was about to

35:37

approve all of this, approve it, approve it, and

35:39

it was supposed to consider it all

35:41

week, and after some time all of this was then

35:43

to be signed by Putin — and do you

35:46

know that when Vladimir Putin was only

35:48

just starting this whole mess, he stated

35:51

quite clearly that he would sign all of it

35:53

only after the people had voted.

35:56

It was said there word for word: let us

35:58

listen — in this case

36:01

that alone is not enough.

36:04

They came and said whether they want

36:09

or do not want the citizens of our country

36:12

to in fact be the final

36:16

authority that either accepts this

36:19

law or rejects it.

36:21

And only after people have had their say

36:23

will it either come into force or not. It was stated clearly:

36:30

after the people vote.

36:33

We’ll discuss the voting before the vote.

36:35

It’s a fake, but it was said nonetheless.

36:37

After that, people will sign, they’ll vote, and I...

36:39

will sign it. What happened in practice?

36:41

The Constitutional Court, in a closed session,

36:44

meets over the weekend and issues this,

36:47

decision saying that everything is perfectly fine.

36:49

There are many different amendments there, a huge

36:52

number of them, and the objections to them are absurd.

36:53

There are supposedly no issues with any of the amendments; everything is just fine.

36:56

Putin signs it instantly, just

36:58

immediately.

36:59

Not even taking time to think, not even pausing

37:02

for a moment, as if something were actually happening there, either

37:05

in our old man’s head

37:06

or, I don’t know, some kind of process is underway.

37:08

Because we can see, sorry, just how

37:12

important it is to get all this done as quickly as possible.

37:15

I mean, it gives the impression that he

37:17

read something like: the train is leaving, the plane is taking off,

37:19

it’s flying away — they need to

37:22

push this thing through immediately. And of course,

37:27

of course, it’s very upsetting and outrageous

37:33

that across the country, when the legislative

37:37

assemblies were voting on this,

37:39

as far as we could see, there was very little, well, any kind of

37:42

real resistance apart from Moscow.

37:44

No one even tried to challenge any of this. In

37:47

Moscow there were some genuinely great speeches.

37:49

Let’s look at Shcherbakova’s speech.

37:50

I’ll show you the deputy who, by the way,

37:52

incidentally,

37:54

also brilliantly mentioned Simonyan and this whole pack of

37:56

our parasitic characters, which provokes

38:00

extreme outrage at the fact that our people

38:03

are being treated as completely stupid, as if

38:06

they could be fooled this cheaply.

38:09

Having gotten carried away, the political technologists were in full

38:12

earnest convinced that, by force-feeding us all this, they had

38:15

already raised generations of brainwashed

38:17

consumers, and that people like Tessa, Margarita Simonyan,

38:20

Babayan, and the rest of those mischievous types

38:22

had already knocked out the last remaining brains in the older

38:24

generation. Let me remind you that we are not

38:27

addressing people who came to him not to

38:30

pay attention in that hall and hoping that they

38:33

are gravely mistaken. This is the cheapest kind of

38:36

con job, on the level of ‘what, are you too scared to challenge it?’

38:38

or ‘too scared to jump from the twentieth floor?’

38:40

It’s aimed at people who have completely

38:42

forgotten how to switch on and use

38:44

their mental faculties.

38:47

Deputies elected through Smart Voting

38:50

are doing a great job, and that’s why I count this as a plus

38:52

for Smart Voting, because even if

38:55

we weren’t able to outvote them across all

38:57

federal subjects (regions), the very presence of

38:59

such people — the kind who

39:01

annoy United Russia, who at least

39:03

can get to the podium and say something publicly —

39:05

is already very important, because

39:08

they already have to be taken into account. But there are very

39:10

few of them, because we devote too little time to

39:14

regional elections.

39:15

And we have regional elections coming up in

39:17

September, and already — I can see it, I talk

39:20

to people — ‘Guys, let’s do something about

39:24

Novosibirsk, Chelyabinsk, Cheboksary, and so

39:27

on,’ and they say, ‘Good Lord, who cares

39:30

about regional elections?’ But this should

39:32

interest everyone. In practice, it is very

39:34

important and absolutely right to be involved in all this,

39:37

because if we don’t

39:39

do it, then there won’t be, there simply won’t be, people like this.

39:42

No one will be sitting either in

39:43

Chelyabinsk or in Novosibirsk, and that

39:44

means there will be no network

39:47

of resistance. Because as soon as

39:48

some really cool guys like that appear,

39:51

like deputy Bondarenko there — I often

39:53

show him to you here, in the Saratov Duma (regional legislature), in

39:57

the Saratov Duma.

39:58

Well, he has an enormous amount of

40:01

public support, and that means

40:02

practical opposition. We need to support exactly

40:04

these kinds of deputies and candidates.

40:07

Support them. We need to devote a great deal of

40:09

effort

40:11

to Smart Voting and campaigning. You may be sitting

40:13

in Moscow, but you can influence an election

40:15

in Chelyabinsk if you want to influence it.

40:17

So then, what happened next?

40:20

We saw that after

40:24

Putin signed all of this, the rhetoric changed

40:28

very sharply. Sorry that I’m

40:30

repeating a bit of what I said in

40:33

my video on the main channel today.

40:35

It came out today, and I was so struck by these words

40:37

from Kiselyov, when he said that

40:39

Russia is not viable. That is really

40:41

a major upgrade of everything

40:44

they had been saying before. Because after all,

40:46

before this, the narrative was that

40:49

our dear Russia is huge and wonderful,

40:53

it has always been great, future Russia

40:57

will be magnificent, the present is wonderful,

40:59

and the past is amazing — all that old

41:02

Pobedonostsev formula, I think, repeated

41:05

in different variations even now: a great

41:08

country needs a great leader. Now all of this

41:10

has turned into this: you’re told that in

41:12

fact the country right now isn’t all that

41:14

great, and it isn’t viable at all

41:17

without Vladimir Putin. That’s just — well,

41:20

an incredibly powerful few seconds. Let’s

41:22

watch Kiselyov: ‘held together with string,’ to put it mildly.

41:26

Let’s be honest: Russia without Putin

41:29

is not yet viable. Our political

41:34

system is unfinished and unbalanced.

41:38

There are 8,600 people

41:41

watching the broadcast right now. I hope they’re as

41:44

outraged as I am. ‘Held together with string’ — I mean,

41:46

it really gives the impression that there were

41:48

some smoking ruins lying around,

41:50

with naked ‘Papuan’ tribesmen running over them in the 1990s, and everyone

41:53

was walking around naked, and then Putin came and, with string,

41:55

stitched it all together. And now, for 20 years,

41:58

he’s been tying it all together, but it still...

42:00

haven't connected it until now, and so now

42:04

right now he is holding all of this together, and this

42:08

I think what was said is very important

42:11

by Kiselyov, because this will be the leitmotif

42:13

of everything that is about to unfold

42:14

next, the April 22 vote, and here I see

42:16

a question: "Alexei, why is there no

42:19

single position on the Constitution among

42:21

the opposition? Why not adopt a unified

42:23

position in public debates?" I don't know what

42:26

"show debates" means or who is showing them,

42:28

but here is a video, in this form, subtype

42:30

they showed it, debates took place—I'm not making this up, I

42:34

don't know what "show debates" are. Let's just

42:36

talk about it normally, and as for whether—I don't know

42:37

whether they will be in person, but in any case it is not

42:39

necessary, even remotely, because there are different

42:41

opinions, first of all, regarding what exactly

42:44

needs to be done about this on April 20, and I very

42:47

well understand that a huge number

42:48

of people are furious, they are outraged, they

42:51

are saying: yes, we will come and vote against it, and

42:53

it seems everyone around is saying: we will come and

42:55

vote against it. It's impossible otherwise, this is

42:57

outrageous, just look—they have shoved in

43:00

absolute nonsense: God, pensions, whoever

43:03

you like, and resetting Putin's terms, of course

43:05

we must come and vote. No,

43:07

people are saying this, and this approach is supported

43:10

package voting is one of the proposed

43:14

formulas for opposition action. Let's

43:19

look at this carefully, and from my point

43:20

of view, Putin understood perfectly well and

43:23

anticipated that the public reaction would be

43:27

exactly like this

43:28

If he had hoped that he would actually

43:32

receive the support of the majority of the population,

43:34

he would have held

43:35

a re-fe-ren-dum, just as

43:39

Lukashenko once did, and Nazarbayev as well

43:42

Well, everyone who extended their terms

43:44

held referendums, and there they

43:47

falsified them, yes, falsified those

43:49

referendums, but still, a referendum

43:51

is at least some kind of mechanism where you can

43:53

observe something

43:56

He is genuinely afraid, but he understands

43:59

that of course, with the help of the North

44:01

Caucasus, where there will be total

44:02

falsification, and with the help of the Volga region

44:04

—Tatarstan and Bashkortostan—

44:05

he might perhaps scrape together some kind of

44:09

required result, but he understands that in those

44:11

cities where it is hard to falsify the vote—

44:13

Moscow, likewise Novosibirsk, the whole

44:15

north, the northwest—there everything will simply

44:18

collapse, and all these cities will overwhelmingly

44:20

show that people do not want

44:22

Putin's term to be extended. That is precisely why

44:24

he reset not only his own terms, but also

44:28

effectively reset the entire voting procedure

44:30

itself. There will be nothing there for me to

44:33

vote for; it will not be possible there

44:35

to vote in such a way that

44:38

the will of the people could somehow actually be established

44:40

This isn't even me saying it; this is what

44:43

the Golos movement is saying, which, by the way,

44:45

has often sharply disagreed with me on

44:48

the question of debates, and regarding

44:50

a possible boycott, because I believe

44:52

that our opposition must be flexible

44:53

if there are real elections, we need

44:55

to participate in them; if the elections are fake, not

44:57

real elections, they should be boycotted, or we should stage

44:59

a voter strike, as we did

45:01

during the presidential election. Yet Golos

45:03

has always been in favor of participating in elections

45:05

I go to their site and I see a huge

45:08

headline saying that in this vote

45:12

it is impossible to establish the will

45:14

of the voters. And do you know what infuriated even

45:18

people at Golos? Well, they are, they are

45:20

very decent people, honestly, and there are many

45:22

people there who initially

45:24

supported Ella Pamfilova and believe

45:27

that I am being too radical, that one should not

45:29

go after the Central Election Commission so aggressively

45:30

—but the last straw was this

45:34

advertisement with our Sergey Bezrukov

45:36

Bezrukov, who is, well, a fine

45:39

actor—why is he getting involved in all this filth?

45:41

At the Central Election Commission they showed campaign material. What you

45:45

are about to see was made with the Commission's money, that is,

45:50

with your money—a campaign piece in favor of

45:53

the referendum. They claim that this

45:56

campaigning is not campaigning for the referendum—

45:57

sorry, for the vote—that it is

45:59

neutral messaging where they urge people

46:02

not to vote for

46:02

or against. Let's take a look.

46:05

between people. You must agree, it would be difficult

46:08

to communicate using only gestures

46:10

or sounds. Such metaphors, comparisons,

46:13

epithets, images—there are none in any language

46:16

in the world, which is why it is so difficult to translate

46:18

Pushkin's words into a foreign

46:20

language

46:20

And we speak this language, feel in it,

46:24

declare our love, notice things, tell stories

46:27

about the Russian language, and Turgenev (the Russian writer Ivan Turgenev) once

46:28

called it, in difficult days,

46:31

my support and my pillar:

46:34

the great and mighty Russian language. The Russian

46:37

language as support and a pillar

46:39

That is why I think it is so important

46:41

that the amendment to the Constitution of the Russian

46:43

Federation on the protection and preservation of the Russian

46:47

language be adopted

46:48

On April 22, the vote will take place

46:52

Don't miss it. It concerns all of us

46:55

[music]

47:00

So, in your view, was that neutral

47:03

messaging simply encouraging people to come to

47:05

the vote? Obviously not. It was

47:07

specific campaigning, a rather sly kind, in favor of

47:10

the Russian language. But what's wrong with that?

47:12

The Russian language really is

47:13

great; everything he said about Russian

47:15

The language issue really is being used to...

47:17

to lure people in: "Come on, let's go vote."

47:19

For the Russian language. But the Russian language on its own

47:21

isn't being offered separately. The Russian language comes

47:24

as part of a package deal with everything else: with God, with

47:28

same-sex marriage, with the priority of

47:31

Russian law

47:32

over international law, and with resetting

47:34

Putin's term limits. And that's why Sergei Bezrukov may

47:37

not be too worried about

47:41

having agreed to appear in this

47:43

advertisement. But even so,

47:45

what he did is absolutely shameful and

47:47

shameless, because Sergei Bezrukov

47:49

is campaigning this way not for the law, not for

47:51

the Russian language, but to get people to come

47:53

and vote for resetting Putin's terms,

47:56

and that is where the enormous lie lies.

47:58

A colossal lie and a colossal deception. I

48:00

hope that one day he will feel

48:02

very ashamed of it, and that everything there will be arranged

48:04

accordingly. And of course this simply

48:08

came out after I had already released

48:10

today's video, where I talk about that

48:14

old strategy of resistance. Because if

48:16

I had read Andrei Buzin's post

48:18

— one of the key figures

48:21

in the election monitoring movement — and everyone who

48:23

is involved in election monitoring

48:24

of course knows Andrei Buzin — he wrote

48:26

a post... Buzin has always been in favor

48:29

of clean elections, but here he writes

48:30

something that honestly leaves me not even knowing what to say.

48:32

Because do you know how they will determine

48:38

the number of people who

48:40

took part

48:41

in this so-called Putin vote?

48:44

Well, you might say: by the voter lists

48:46

or by the protocols. But usually

48:49

the protocol is posted on the wall, observers

48:51

fill it out, and based on that protocol

48:53

everything is then

48:55

recorded and the control ratios are checked.

48:56

Not this time. This time, the number

48:59

of people who voted will be determined by

49:01

the number of ballots lying

49:04

inside the ballot box.

49:07

Now, maybe if you have never

49:10

been involved in election monitoring,

49:12

this doesn't sound insane to you. But

49:14

guys, it really is insane.

49:17

Because the way the election process is currently organized,

49:19

and in general the main

49:21

barrier standing in the way

49:24

of falsifiers — the main barrier —

49:27

is that there is a polling station,

49:29

and a large copy of the protocol is posted there.

49:31

It says that at this

49:33

polling station, 1,700 voters are entered in the voter register.

49:37

Then they record that

49:39

such-and-such number of people came here —

49:40

800 people.

49:42

We gave them 800 ballots. So many

49:46

ballots were taken out later — 20 of them,

49:48

because of at-home voting.

49:50

There were another four ballots for some kind of

49:53

mobile voting, and so many

49:58

ballots were spoiled, so many

50:00

ballots were canceled, so many votes

50:02

were cast — all of it, yes, all these numbers

50:04

have to add up.

50:06

And that is the main, fundamental

50:08

safeguard. That is why United Russia

50:10

has to resort to complicated schemes — this whole

50:12

"carousel" operation, when people travel

50:14

— you've seen it many times — there is

50:17

a bus with 20 people in it, and they

50:19

go from one polling station to another.

50:21

They show some badge, and they are given ballots.

50:23

Then someone simply enters them under other people's names

50:25

in the voter lists. In other words,

50:27

it's complicated and difficult to carry out —

50:31

a kind of falsification that allows them

50:33

to add

50:35

100 votes for United Russia and Putin at each polling station,

50:36

or 50 votes,

50:38

which across a region and across the country adds up

50:41

to millions of votes. So this is the kind of

50:44

thing that happens in almost

50:47

all regions of Russia and gives them

50:49

a few extra percentage points. But this time they

50:51

have scrapped even that. Roughly speaking,

50:53

anyone can come in there —

50:55

a school principal, the head of the local housing services office,

50:59

some local United Russia people — and simply throw in

51:00

a whole stack of ballots.

51:04

The polling station may have 1,700

51:07

registered voters,

51:07

but suddenly 5,000 ballots are found there.

51:09

That's it — that means that many people voted.

51:12

Five thousand voted, and of them 4,500

51:15

voted for Putin. That's all.

51:18

And there are no observers. The most interesting part is that

51:20

observers are effectively banned.

51:23

The only observers will be from the Public Chamber

51:25

— that is, effectively from the state itself.

51:26

On top of that, it will go on for several days,

51:29

and Putin has already announced that there will also be

51:31

at-home voting. So in reality

51:33

it is absolutely impossible to ensure that

51:37

your votes are counted. And of course I

51:40

also want to go along with everyone else and

51:43

simply, as a political statement, vote

51:46

against it.

51:46

And in fact, you can go

51:48

and vote — but at this point it no longer

51:50

has any significance. There will be no real battle here

51:53

for the result, because everything loses

51:56

its meaning.

51:57

There is no oversight there. You can go

52:00

and vote — just don't be upset

52:03

that your vote will not be counted, because

52:04

it will not be counted. Therefore, our main

52:07

attitude toward this vote

52:09

must be one of non-recognition. In the previous

52:11

program I said it, in the video I said it, and I will say it

52:13

again: we do not recognize this procedure.

52:15

This is a real fake. This is no way to do it.

52:17

to hold elections, and Putin, having refused

52:20

to hold referendums, having started holding

52:21

this thing, this whole thing, this vote

52:25

he is simply showing in advance that

52:27

he is losing the referendum, and so this whole thing began

52:29

what is very interesting about this vote is that for the Kremlin

52:33

it does not matter how you vote, but what matters is that

52:37

they do not understand that not everything can be fixed, but for them

52:38

it is very important that you show up, so

52:40

right now they are simply sending me from everywhere

52:43

the same campaign guide over and over, and it is being handed out

52:45

to doctors, and distributed in schools, in the EMERCOM (Russia's Ministry of Emergency Situations),

52:48

everywhere, to all state employees, sending instructions on how

52:50

they are supposed to campaign, and send it to me because

52:52

at some point my surname is mentioned there. It is funny, there

52:55

is a guide on how to bring people

52:57

to this very vote, and in

53:01

particular there are different groups there

53:04

of people, how to campaign to active people, how

53:07

to campaign to patriotically minded

53:08

citizens, how to campaign to loyal

53:10

and disloyal ones. As for patriotically minded

53:12

citizens,

53:12

they are to be persuaded as follows

53:15

the suggested message is this: right now Ukraine too,

53:18

Poland,

53:19

Navalny, and anyone else can dictate

53:22

to Russia what it may and may not do

53:24

and punish it for invented transgressions

53:26

by exploiting legal loopholes left behind many years ago

53:28

through legal loopholes. It is very

53:30

funny that, according to this nonsense, Russia is now being

53:34

manipulated by Ukraine, Poland, and Navalny

53:37

but a new constitution must be adopted, and then

53:40

of course Vladimir Vladimirovich

53:42

Putin will receive into his hands a sword

53:45

of legend with which he will drive off Navalny,

53:47

Poland, and Ukraine

53:50

and then Russia will be able

53:52

to make decisions independently. And for

53:54

active citizens, the following

53:56

slogans are proposed

53:57

A new constitution without authoritarianism

54:00

and permanent rule. Want Putin

54:03

to leave?

54:04

I am voting for the constitution. So, basically,

54:06

United Russia is literally sitting there writing

54:10

a guide on how to lure in people like you

54:13

to this vote. Want Putin

54:15

to leave? Come vote. And there are lots

54:17

of different ones there

54:18

there they say that Putin has achieved a great deal while in

54:21

the office of president for the country, and for

54:23

pensioners the proposed message is this: we all

54:26

remember how we lived in the 1990s (the turbulent post-Soviet decade): humiliating

54:29

poverty, unemployment, hungry elderly people

54:31

blah blah blah, come to the vote on April 22

54:33

and, by the way, this is being written to us by

54:36

a man who in the 1990s worked in

54:39

the Saint Petersburg mayor's office, that is, he was one

54:40

of those who created those very 1990s with

54:43

their humiliating poverty, unemployment, and

54:45

hungry elderly people. But now they

54:47

with all sorts of slogans want

54:49

to drag people in. Why do they want to drag people in?

54:52

Because they will not fake the result, but

54:54

if everyone around you is saying that

54:57

they did not go, and you yourself see where it will be

55:00

held, it will be located

55:02

in your shopping mall

55:03

it will be located in your school, and they can of course

55:06

tell you as much as they want

55:08

something like 70 percent

55:10

of people came and voted, but if you do not

55:13

see people actually going, then you will not

55:15

believe any of it. That is why they very, very much need

55:18

turnout, because, well, on top of that, people's mood

55:21

is changing radically. What struck me

55:25

this week

55:26

was the singer Trofim, that is, the singer Trofim,

55:28

Sergei Trofimov, Sergei Trofimov, Sergei

55:33

Trofimov gave an interview to the newspaper Sobesednik

55:35

and said

55:37

the following words

55:40

A man who can barely stand on skates and

55:43

yet scores ten goals, or who dives

55:46

with scuba gear for the first time and finds

55:47

Greek amphorae, may think all of that is

55:49

real, but reality, sadly, is quite different

55:51

It is a pity that the citizens of the country will have to pay

55:53

for this illusion, a country that is driving

55:55

along a dirt road

55:56

while anxiously peering into the rear-view

55:59

mirror

56:00

Well said by Sergei Trofimov, the singer and

56:03

musician. But let us just look at the video

56:07

that Sergei Trofimov recorded in 2012

56:09

Vladimir Putin is a man who

56:14

can correct, while in office, his own

56:16

mistakes. We are not choosing a tsar,

56:18

we are choosing a manager to whom the reins

56:20

of governing the country will be entrusted. I understand that he is

56:22

a man of his word, a man whose duty

56:24

as a Christian

56:25

and as a citizen of Russia is to correct the situation

56:28

in the spirit of social justice

56:31

I expected decisive steps from Vladimir Vladimirovich

56:33

[music]

56:39

I really do not want to take a jab at the singer

56:43

Sergei Trofimov, and I think that he

56:44

said all this absolutely sincerely and, apparently, genuinely

56:46

to Sobesednik, but obviously

56:48

sincerely, I fully allow for that, that in

56:49

2012 that was the case. I just do not really

56:52

understand how in 2012 one could

56:53

vote for Putin and support

56:55

him after the crackdown on Bolotnaya (the Bolotnaya Square protest), after

56:58

the falsifications in the 2011 elections, well

57:00

and support him while saying, we are not

57:02

choosing a tsar, but a manager. And now this

57:05

manager is telling all of us, including

57:07

the singer Sergei Trofimov: man, after all you

57:09

were choosing a tsar, and there will be no more elections, only

57:12

a nationwide vote. Come

57:13

And even loyalists, you see, people like that

57:15

who were official campaign surrogates are already

57:17

saying: how much longer can this go on, really, how much longer

57:20

can this go on? The man is genuinely just losing his mind

57:22

but he is maniacally determined

57:25

to remain president, so of course

57:27

the Kremlin. Putin may not feel it himself—Putin

57:30

is already completely out of touch somewhere up there—but the Kremlin and

57:32

everyone else feel it very well,

57:33

these moods, and they do not like any of it.

57:36

That is why there is no referendum, and that is why—

57:38

Daniels asks: “Alexei, what do you

57:40

think? Is this the same Daniil

57:42

or are there really that many people named Daniil?”

57:44

People keep asking me whether there will be large-scale

57:46

ballot stuffing like there was in 2017.

57:49

You cannot even say there “will be,” Daniil, because

57:53

everything that happens on April 22

57:55

will be one continuous fraud, as I already

57:57

said. There is no oversight mechanism there

57:59

whatsoever. They will simply pull out a stack

58:02

of ballots. Well, it is just hard

58:05

to explain this to people who have never

58:07

worked as election observers at a polling station. If

58:09

you have been an observer at a polling station, you

58:10

know what a complicated system there is

58:13

for counting votes, which does not always

58:15

work if people are trying

58:17

to falsify the results. But in principle it

58:18

is designed fairly well if everything is

58:21

done honestly, and now they are simply

58:22

abolishing it completely. So it is not a question of

58:25

there being many votes and how many of them

58:28

will be stuffed in; it will be a huge pile of fake votes

58:31

with just a few real ones mixed in. That is exactly

58:34

what it will be. Viktor Medved asks: “Alexei,”

58:36

“How, in practice, will your refusal to recognize

58:37

the vote on April 22 be expressed?”

58:39

That is exactly how it will be expressed: I

58:41

do not recognize this vote. I do not recognize it.

58:43

I think you, Viktor, should say

58:45

exactly the same thing. And when, sooner

58:48

or later—after all, it cannot go on forever,

58:51

Putin will not rule indefinitely—there is

58:53

a normal parliament in Russia, and this will be

58:56

the main thing that not only

58:58

the

58:59

opposition, but any politicians at all, will say in

59:02

their platforms.

59:03

They will have to say: of course, we

59:05

will repeal this, because all of it was

59:07

a sham. And as soon as a new parliament

59:09

is elected, you do not even need

59:10

to go through any procedure or hold any

59:13

popular vote at all.

59:14

We simply say: all of this is null and void,

59:16

none of it exists—neither these new

59:18

powers for Putin, nor

59:21

any resetting of term limits. Besides,

59:24

of course, we already consider Putin’s

59:26

power illegitimate,

59:28

but after all this, his bid for yet

59:30

another term is simply absolutely

59:31

illegal, absolutely illegitimate. It is

59:34

essentially a coup d’état, a seizure

59:35

of power. 363,000 people on the live stream

59:38

—I am being told that we already have 3,100

59:40

sponsors, those wonderful people who

59:42

click the button below, right

59:46

under the little screen you are watching me on.

59:48

By the way, one of the

59:50

very noteworthy things, I think, which the

59:53

Kremlin is also watching, is the reaction

59:55

from the North Caucasus. You know how the North

59:57

Caucasus works: whenever you

1:00:00

talk to people from the North

1:00:02

Caucasus—really, with anyone

1:00:03

from the North Caucasus—they all, you know,

1:00:06

curse the authorities in the strongest terms, but when it comes to any

1:00:07

initiatives from the authorities,

1:00:09

the local bosses vote as instructed. Look at what

1:00:11

is happening in Ingushetia.

1:00:13

It is very much a typical North

1:00:15

Caucasus system—the North Caucasus is the North Caucasus.

1:00:17

And now, there, the council of teips

1:00:19

(Ingush clans) has issued an official statement saying:

1:00:22

“We are not going to vote for your damn

1:00:23

Constitution.” It literally says there,

1:00:25

“Why should the people vote for

1:00:27

constitutional amendments that are not

1:00:29

being implemented? We are tired of the authorities’ hypocrisy.”

1:00:32

That is being said by the head of the council of teips,

1:00:36

that is, by the very people who have always

1:00:37

supported the authorities—these are the kind of

1:00:39

people who, in effect, are not usually against

1:00:42

them. And after this statement, an administrative case was immediately

1:00:44

opened against him. By the way,

1:00:46

for what? Does he no longer even have the right to say

1:00:48

that he will not vote? They opened

1:00:49

administrative cases there against many

1:00:51

people, and criminal cases were initiated against some. But

1:00:54

officially, the elders gather

1:00:56

and say: “We will not vote for this.”

1:00:57

This shows that grassroots

1:01:02

discontent is building very strongly.

1:01:05

It is breaking through where no one expected it. I

1:01:07

think that Putin and the presidential

1:01:09

administration, not least of all,

1:01:11

did not expect that in Ingushetia anyone would

1:01:13

say anything on this issue.

1:01:14

But it is happening, and that is why

1:01:16

they are not holding a referendum. That is why

1:01:19

there will be this absolutely total

1:01:22

falsification. I saw many questions:

1:01:28

“Alexei, was it really the case that…” Right now, I

1:01:30

cannot see it on the screen anymore, but the question was

1:01:32

something like: “Do you think Putin

1:01:33

deliberately timed this

1:01:37

nationwide vote to coincide with the coronavirus

1:01:39

epidemic?” I do not think so.

1:01:42

But it seems to me that now, after an hour on air, I

1:01:45

want, toward the end of the broadcast, when more

1:01:47

people are watching, to say something that

1:01:50

I think is very important: what they

1:01:52

are doing now with this announcement of

1:01:56

the vote on April 22

1:01:58

is a real crime against everyone, and

1:02:01

against pensioners in particular. This

1:02:04

really hits me hard.

1:02:05

I urge all of you to think about this too

1:02:07

and to make them—really, we

1:02:10

must make them.

1:02:12

Of course, it would be better to postpone this altogether.

1:02:14

Or cancel it and not hold any vote at all.

1:02:16

But at the very least, it should not be on the 22nd

1:02:19

of April, because what will be done

1:02:21

would be a genuine crime.

1:02:22

It really looks like an attempt—

1:02:25

as cynical as this may sound, like some kind of dark

1:02:28

joke,

1:02:28

but nevertheless it is as if they want

1:02:31

to vote for Putin and at the same time

1:02:33

save on Pension Fund spending,

1:02:35

because many elderly people will simply

1:02:37

die after this. What is happening now

1:02:39

with the coronavirus—let's look at

1:02:42

the chart. We are told that there is very little coronavirus

1:02:45

in Russia right now. Looking at

1:02:46

the chart, it is indeed low, but we can see

1:02:50

that in those countries—please show

1:02:51

the chart Alexashenko is referring to—

1:02:54

there, you see?

1:02:55

The bars at the bottom are Russia, while these

1:02:57

curves that have shot

1:02:59

way upward are France and the U.S., where the situation

1:03:02

is much worse, especially in France. But

1:03:04

the gap is only 4 to 15 days. Our

1:03:07

bars are moving in exactly the same way as

1:03:10

those graphs, and in that sense we are being told

1:03:12

that the situation in France is terrible,

1:03:15

that the situation in the U.S. is alarming, while for us, so far, in terms of

1:03:17

the trend, unfortunately, the situation is exactly

1:03:20

the same—just 14 days later.

1:03:23

If the same pace continues, then we

1:03:26

will have as many infected people, as many dead, and as many

1:03:28

dying as Italy has,

1:03:32

as France has, and as the U.S. has. And how,

1:03:35

against that backdrop, can anyone hold

1:03:38

a nationwide vote, the whole point of which

1:03:40

is that many people gather in one room,

1:03:43

including elderly people?

1:03:46

You've seen how this works: there is a person sitting there with

1:03:49

the coronavirus, God forbid, and they hand this

1:03:52

grandfather or grandmother a ballot, and there they are

1:03:54

peering at it with their weak eyesight,

1:03:55

saying, 'Sonny, give me the pen.' That whole

1:03:58

pen has been licked, touched a hundred times,

1:04:01

they chat, take that grandmother by the arm, and

1:04:04

lead her over to the voting booth,

1:04:06

and of course infect her. The number

1:04:09

of infections will be simply enormous. One

1:04:12

member of an election commission will infect

1:04:16

hundreds of people that day.

1:04:17

One person from the election system—after all,

1:04:20

Putin said they would go door to door.

1:04:21

Great idea, right? Of course, not everyone who

1:04:25

goes door to door will be infected with this

1:04:26

virus, but if 500 people are going

1:04:29

door to door in your federal subject (region),

1:04:31

and 3 of them are sick, then they

1:04:33

will infect hundreds of people—and they will infect

1:04:35

whom? The elderly, those who have

1:04:39

an enormous risk of death, real

1:04:42

death. We are constantly told 3

1:04:44

percent, 2 percent, 0.7 percent, but

1:04:46

no one disputes that for elderly

1:04:48

people this is truly—imagine it like this:

1:04:51

four people are standing there, and one will be shot—that is about the same

1:04:53

probability. Let's listen to what Channel One (Russia's main state TV channel)

1:04:55

has to say about it. I'll stay in the

1:04:56

corner so you don't get banned. 'The population-level rate

1:04:59

is around 3 percent. However,

1:05:02

for a 30-year-old, the estimated fatality rate

1:05:05

would be 0.2 percent, while for a patient over

1:05:09

80 years old, it reaches 22 percent.

1:05:12

That is what our Chinese

1:05:14

colleagues are telling us.'

1:05:17

Today, you understand, today they are introducing

1:05:20

some new heightened-readiness

1:05:22

measures, and in every—I don't know, right now

1:05:25

every ten minutes we hear that this has been closed,

1:05:28

that has been closed, quarantine here, quarantine there,

1:05:30

and more quarantine measures need to be announced. I

1:05:33

know a lot of people—what should we call them,

1:05:36

corona-skeptics, perhaps?

1:05:37

People who think all this

1:05:39

is not such a dangerous disease, or those

1:05:41

who believe that these

1:05:43

restrictive economic measures

1:05:45

will do even more harm than the

1:05:47

coronavirus epidemic itself. Maybe that is true.

1:05:49

Maybe in a year we will realize that all of this

1:05:52

was too much commotion,

1:05:54

and that it was not actually that страшно. Maybe

1:05:57

that will be the case, or maybe not. But is it worth

1:06:01

taking the risk and testing that now, if we

1:06:04

really are seeing mortality among

1:06:06

elderly people at the level of 15 to 20

1:06:09

percent? That, that tells us

1:06:12

that we should not take risks, we should not

1:06:15

test it—we would be better off taking more

1:06:17

measures rather than fewer. And Putin—

1:06:20

look, at the beginning of the program I

1:06:22

said that he is acting almost like

1:06:24

a maniac over these amendments. That is why everything

1:06:26

is moving so fast, why the Federation Council (upper house of Russia's parliament)

1:06:29

and the regional legislatures immediately

1:06:31

and the Constitutional Court shamefully decide everything—he simply

1:06:33

runs and signs it all at once, even though he had promised not to.

1:06:35

They need this vote by

1:06:37

April 22. They tell him: coronavirus.

1:06:39

Then: we'll do it door to door. Whatever it is

1:06:42

that is driving him, whatever is tearing him apart to get this

1:06:45

done so urgently—we do not know. Maybe we will find out.

1:06:48

But the task now for everyone, regardless

1:06:50

of their political views,

1:06:51

simply because we are normal people and

1:06:54

we do not want to put at risk

1:06:55

our parents, our grandparents, and so

1:06:58

on, is simply to demand that they at

1:07:00

least postpone their idiotic vote.

1:07:02

Come on, they can wait. Good Lord, he has been in power for 20

1:07:05

years—he can wait a little longer before this

1:07:07

gets voted on. There really needs to be

1:07:09

some kind of major lobbying

1:07:12

campaign, and I think that of course— but

1:07:15

returning to the question of whether Putin deliberately timed

1:07:18

all this to coincide with his own—

1:07:20

with the coronavirus epidemic: of course not.

1:07:22

It is impossible to time something like that. But the fact is that

1:07:25

Now, speaking of conspiracy theories,

1:07:26

this is not a conspiracy theory at all. It is an absolute

1:07:28

fact that the authorities are now simply

1:07:31

lying on a massive, colossal scale about

1:07:34

what is happening, and of course we must talk about it.

1:07:37

This is not panic at all; it is

1:07:39

simply the reasonable thing to do. But let us

1:07:41

look at the simplest question: how many

1:07:45

people are being tested? If you try

1:07:49

to get tested for coronavirus, you will

1:07:51

never manage it. But when we look

1:07:53

at the data, we see that Russia is in one

1:07:55

of the top positions. In Russia,

1:07:57

there have supposedly already been

1:07:59

122,000 coronavirus tests. That is more than in the United Kingdom,

1:08:01

in France, in Australia, more than in the United States,

1:08:05

more than in many developed

1:08:08

countries combined. And yet no one

1:08:11

can actually get this test.

1:08:13

But that is simply a colossal lie.

1:08:15

An even more dangerous offshoot of that lie,

1:08:19

apparently, is that they are not detecting cases. But

1:08:20

look, literally just 10

1:08:23

minutes before going on air I saw this figure, so

1:08:25

I cannot show you the slide. In New York

1:08:27

today they carried out 11,000 tests and

1:08:30

identified

1:08:31

I think around a thousand infected people there. In

1:08:35

Russia, over the course of today, according

1:08:37

to the official figures, they supposedly carried out 9,000

1:08:40

tests and identified 50 people.

1:08:43

That looks unrealistic. But even if

1:08:46

we assume that is what happened,

1:08:49

that coronavirus somehow passed Russia by—no,

1:08:51

there is no such possibility.

1:08:52

But of course we do not believe that we

1:08:55

really conducted that many tests, because

1:08:57

you can ask any doctor, especially

1:09:00

a doctor who works in an

1:09:01

infectious diseases hospital: there are no tests, no reliable

1:09:04

tests. There is only this Novosibirsk

1:09:06

institute where these tests are sent,

1:09:08

half of them do not come back, and no one

1:09:10

understands how many false results they are producing.

1:09:12

There are no proper procedures. Now, when

1:09:14

we are told about South Korea,

1:09:17

that they tested a million people, and by the way

1:09:20

it was a very effective

1:09:21

method: it was absolutely comprehensive

1:09:24

testing there. People were tested by the thousands, by tens of

1:09:27

thousands. But this is what

1:09:29

it looked like. Let us see how

1:09:30

all of this looked in

1:09:32

Korea.

1:09:36

[music]

1:09:44

Kantora gave me people where she is, POV case

1:09:48

let the words, chapter 3, of a special system

1:09:54

except ramen, dictation, tip-top, Kuptsova

1:10:01

Olga Belova

1:10:03

giant usually use brain rent by

1:10:07

we will have mushrooms, integration of butterflies

1:10:13

region

1:10:14

at the entrance, trampling of the upper, in general

1:10:16

little sheep, onigiri, photo, fio6 of the market on

1:10:19

yoga, orderly, here

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I

1:10:25

[music]

1:10:28

The people who understood that clip best were those who

1:10:30

speak Korean. But even in English

1:10:32

everything was clear enough anyway. There,

1:10:33

right on the streets, they set up these

1:10:35

transparent booths on a mass scale. Inside each booth,

1:10:38

fully equipped, as you can see, in full protective gear,

1:10:40

there is a doctor. A person goes in there, and

1:10:45

without any direct contact, they are given

1:10:48

tests. Tens of thousands of people went through these tests,

1:10:50

and millions of people

1:10:52

saw that this was mass testing.

1:10:54

They did the same thing in Singapore, and now

1:10:57

Singapore, which quite effectively

1:11:01

resisted it and, as far as I

1:11:04

understand, remains one of the most successful

1:11:05

examples of combating

1:11:07

coronavirus. In Singapore, which is exactly

1:11:08

the kind of country that is highly vulnerable, with endless travel by

1:11:11

Chinese visitors,

1:11:12

a huge airport, traffic from all over

1:11:15

Asia, people constantly moving and interacting—

1:11:17

it should have been devastated.

1:11:19

Singapore should simply have been overwhelmed there

1:11:21

by coronavirus, but they have almost none of it there

1:11:23

because what did they do?

1:11:24

Mass, universal testing. Anyone

1:11:27

who wanted to could go and get tested.

1:11:29

For some reason, our doctors are now saying—

1:11:31

they often show this doctor who

1:11:34

heads the hospital in Kommunarka (a Moscow settlement known for its COVID hospital),

1:11:35

he seems like a normal enough guy, but

1:11:38

he has been told to keep repeating this to everyone:

1:11:40

why do you need to get tested? And he

1:11:42

tells every reporter: why on earth would you

1:11:44

go get tested for no reason? In other words,

1:11:45

mass testing is harmful, because

1:11:47

you do not have a fever, you do not have

1:11:48

symptoms, so why do you need it? It only

1:11:50

stirs up panic, according to them. But that

1:11:52

is complete falsehood and hypocrisy. What causes panic

1:11:56

is exactly the opposite, because

1:11:59

people do not understand.

1:12:00

There are many people among us

1:12:02

who are worried about vulnerable people. Even I,

1:12:04

for example,

1:12:05

I do not have a fever or anything, but I

1:12:08

for example cannot go visit my

1:12:10

parents, because they are

1:12:12

elderly.

1:12:12

Like many elderly people, they have health conditions, and I

1:12:14

am afraid to go. But probably if I

1:12:16

got tested and saw that I did not have

1:12:19

coronavirus—well, because after all

1:12:22

it can be present even without a fever—then maybe I

1:12:24

could go to my parents and

1:12:26

bring them groceries or something else, just

1:12:29

talk to them. But I am not going, because I do not

1:12:31

know. The same goes for this: say tomorrow you

1:12:33

have a fever, a runny nose, and then you are sitting there

1:12:36

not understanding anything. Of course you are immediately

1:12:38

in a state of alarm.

1:12:39

...like any normal citizen, all of you...

1:12:41

...have hidden away somewhere quite well, but you would still...

1:12:43

...prefer to know whether you do, in fact, have...

1:12:45

...the coronavirus right now or not, because...

1:12:47

...a lot depends on that: whether you should simply sit...

1:12:50

...quietly at your computer, or somehow...

1:12:52

...get treatment, stock up on things. But if you have...

1:12:56

...a chronic illness, maybe you would be...

1:12:58

...even more worried about it. In Singapore...

1:13:00

...they acted very clearly: they carried out mass testing, and...

1:13:02

...everyone they found was isolated, and they immediately rushed...

1:13:05

...to find out who had been in contact with whom. In...

1:13:09

...South Korea, what did they do? In South Korea as well...

1:13:10

...there are cameras everywhere, video cameras all over...

1:13:12

...everywhere, across all the cities, just like in Moscow. And in...

1:13:15

...Moscow, Sobyanin (the mayor of Moscow) is very proud that...

1:13:17

...they can identify all protest participants using these...

1:13:20

...cameras. In South Korea, they...

1:13:23

...used the cameras in order to...

1:13:25

...trace the contact circle of those who...

1:13:28

...had contracted the coronavirus. So, for example...

1:13:30

...a person got sick, and then they simply looked...

1:13:32

...using these AI-powered camera systems...

1:13:33

...which were configured to determine whom...

1:13:36

...this person had come into contact with somewhere, and then...

1:13:39

...they rushed to test those people. But overall...

1:13:41

...they carried out mass testing. In Russia...

1:13:44

...there is no mass testing at all. I’m sure...

1:13:46

...that you hardly know even a single...

1:13:48

...person who has taken a test and...

1:13:51

...actually received the test results.

1:13:53

Maybe you do know some, but they’re just...

1:13:56

...writing on Facebook.

1:13:57

They all write the same thing: “They took us away, we...

1:13:59

...don’t know anything, some kind of tests for...

1:14:00

...Selikha (?) will be ready in a week because...

1:14:02

...we sent them to Novosibirsk,” and at the same time they...

1:14:04

...are lying that they supposedly...

1:14:07

...conducted 122,000 tests. But that is simply a lie.

1:14:11

And it is precisely this lie that causes panic...

1:14:14

...because if they are lying about the number...

1:14:15

...about the number of tests, why are they lying?

1:14:18

It means they are hiding something.

1:14:20

It means they understand that the number of infected people is...

1:14:22

...much higher, and they do not want to...

1:14:23

...say it. That is the logical conclusion, and I am sure...

1:14:26

...absolutely sure that this conclusion is correct. They were told...

1:14:28

...because the vote on April 22...

1:14:30

...Putin wants to hold this...

1:14:33

...vote, and he will keep suppressing things and...

1:14:35

...lying about these statistics until...

1:14:38

...he gets it done. But after that...

1:14:40

...there will be an absolutely enormous...

1:14:42

...outbreak. Therefore...

1:14:43

...lying about this is simply criminal, and...

1:14:46

...keeping silent about it is criminal as well. In fact, there will be no...

1:14:48

...panic at all. But in all these...

1:14:50

...countries—in Singapore, in South Korea...

1:14:52

...and now in the United States—mass...

1:14:55

...testing is underway, and there is no panic. Sure...

1:14:57

...people go to stores and buy up toilet...

1:14:58

...paper and food products, but that is not...

1:15:01

...panic.

1:15:01

No one is running through the streets in terror, no one...

1:15:03

...is attacking people or snatching from some grandmother...

1:15:06

...I don’t know, a turnip or potatoes. It is normal...

1:15:09

...for people to go to stores and stock up...

1:15:10

...on food, because people were told: “Stay...

1:15:13

...home and don’t go out.” So people said, fine, they...

1:15:16

...are following that instruction in a disciplined way.

1:15:17

“All right, we’ll go to the store now...

1:15:19

...buy food, and then we’ll stay home.” But how else...

1:15:22

...are people supposed to act? So these...

1:15:24

...truly degenerate statements on...

1:15:28

...television, where they ostentatiously say...

1:15:30

...“Look how stupid these people are, they’re buying up all the...

1:15:33

...food.” No, they are not stupid people, they are...

1:15:35

...normal people. They were told, “Folks, stay...

1:15:37

...home, especially if you’re feeling unwell, stay...

1:15:40

...home.” Fine—but they still need to eat.

1:15:42

They went to the store, bought food, and went...

1:15:44

...back to their apartment. And our authorities—they...

1:15:47

...really are lying, they are stirring up panic, they...

1:15:50

...for some reason start fighting those who...

1:15:53

...buy food in stores. Let them...

1:15:54

...buy it—what’s the problem? If they say...

1:15:56

...that we have everything...

1:15:57

...fully supplied with food, then...

1:15:58

...there should be enough food. But this is just...

1:16:00

...endless, endless lying. They sent me...

1:16:04

...you know that we work a lot...

1:16:07

...with the Doctors’ Alliance trade union...

1:16:09

...and they sent this into the chat...

1:16:12

...a photograph showing how...

1:16:15

...coronavirus testing is being done in Perm.

1:16:17

Let’s take a look. And everyone there...

1:16:19

...is laughing, ha-ha.

1:16:20

Please show that picture. I’m reading it...

1:16:22

...and it says there that they are going to conduct...

1:16:24

...a bacterial culture. So I’m asking, basically, what...

1:16:28

...is wrong with this picture? Probably those of you...

1:16:32

...who studied biology better than I did...

1:16:34

...or know medicine better than I do, you...

1:16:37

...have probably started laughing too. And then...

1:16:38

...the doctors accordingly tell me: “Alexei...

1:16:40

...you should be ashamed of yourself, because...

1:16:42

...they teach this in the sixth grade at school: what the difference is...

1:16:44

...between a bacterium and a virus. Because...

1:16:46

...the coronavirus is a virus, and there really...

1:16:49

...the hospital’s chief doctor...

1:16:51

...not only that—this wasn’t in Perm, it was in Kurgan.

1:16:55

In Kurgan.

1:16:55

Please show it again. She really...

1:16:57

...writes: “Let’s carry out testing...

1:16:59

...for the coronavirus, and to do that we’ll perform...

1:17:01

...a bacterial culture.” In other words, with that...

1:17:03

...it is impossible to detect the coronavirus. But...

1:17:06

...it probably made its way into the statistics: they...

1:17:08

...said, “You know, we conducted...

1:17:10

...100 tests, we carried out 100 tests...”

1:17:12

...a bacterial culture. But with that it is impossible...

1:17:15

...to detect the coronavirus. And for...

1:17:17

...a person who works in medicine...

1:17:19

...this is, first, hilariously funny; second...

1:17:21

...it shows complete...

1:17:23

...incompetence on the part of the doctor; and third...

1:17:25

...it shows a gigantic system of lies...

1:17:26

...all across the country.

1:17:28

They carried out a bacteriological

1:17:32

bacteriological test, which

1:17:34

cannot detect a virus—that’s just

1:17:39

how it works, so it’s simply

1:17:40

endless. Plus there’s this endless

1:17:42

lying. It also feeds on

1:17:46

well, sort of thrives on just

1:17:49

the colossal, of course, incompetence

1:17:51

of chief physicians. They vary—there are some very

1:17:53

good chief physicians, and many

1:17:55

different good doctors—but in principle

1:17:56

a chief physician in Russia is

1:17:58

an administrative position where, more often

1:18:00

than not, the person in charge is someone who is very

1:18:02

interested in arranging

1:18:03

various deals

1:18:04

with drug procurement, and who always

1:18:07

salutes the head of the health department,

1:18:10

who in turn reports

1:18:12

to the deputy governor for

1:18:14

healthcare and social policy, and so

1:18:16

on. The system in the country is like the army.

1:18:18

They all steal a great deal; they’ve turned

1:18:20

healthcare into that, and they are ready to falsify

1:18:23

any statistics. Plus, I mean, if your main

1:18:26

thing—the thing you have to be

1:18:28

competent at—is stealing, then very many

1:18:30

of them are genuinely stupid. I was simply struck by

1:18:33

a speech in the Moscow

1:18:35

this speech, a public speech in the

1:18:37

Moscow City Duma by a deputy,

1:18:40

Sharapova, the head of an enormous

1:18:43

hospital. Remember when I was being held in a

1:18:44

special detention center and they poisoned me with something there?

1:18:47

I was hospitalized in that hospital, and

1:18:48

then they urgently discharged me on orders from the Interior Ministry

1:18:50

even though the doctors said I should not

1:18:52

be discharged, and they said it was

1:18:54

nonsense, that no one had poisoned him, he just had

1:18:55

an allergy. So, she is the chief physician

1:18:57

of that hospital and, at the same time,

1:18:59

a United Russia deputy in the Moscow City Duma.

1:19:00

It really is one of the hospitals—namely, Nina

1:19:03

Vinogradova.

1:19:04

A gigantic one. Here is what the chief physician says:

1:19:07

They’re sitting at a Moscow City Duma session. Let’s listen.

1:19:10

Three weeks ago I was at the Lavra (a major Orthodox monastery), and I

1:19:13

met with an elder and asked, Father,

1:19:16

what awaits us, what awaits our Russia? He

1:19:20

said: prosperity. And here I hear from this

1:19:23

podium what our Communists are saying about

1:19:27

the fact that

1:19:27

how, like astrologers, they are already claiming, they already

1:19:31

know what awaits us in 2024.

1:19:33

So listen to the elders, to what the elder

1:19:36

says.

1:19:37

At least do that. What are you, what are you,

1:19:42

some astrologers now? They know everything, apparently.

1:19:45

Thank you. Listen to the elders, to what the elder

1:19:49

says—he wants to save us here. Excuse me, but are you

1:19:51

really the chief physician of a huge hospital?

1:19:54

I mean, this is just some crazy woman

1:19:56

who is absolutely incompetent. She cannot

1:19:59

run an institution like that

1:20:00

in healthcare. But they are all like that there.

1:20:02

And so, of course, they will lie about

1:20:04

anything at all. And quite rightly, today

1:20:07

there was an address recorded to doctors—maybe by that

1:20:10

same medical trade union that

1:20:12

told doctors: don’t stay silent, guys, you

1:20:15

know that across the country people do not have

1:20:17

even basic protective equipment. Yet they

1:20:19

keep lying that we are fully prepared for

1:20:21

the fight against coronavirus. Go into any hospital

1:20:23

and ask: do you even have enough medical

1:20:26

masks? No, we don’t.

1:20:28

Especially in the regions, they fold gauze four

1:20:30

times and attach it with some kind of strings

1:20:32

or clips to their ears, because

1:20:35

maybe surgeons have some for going into

1:20:36

the operating room, but the rest of the staff

1:20:38

do not. And in any hospital it is obvious that in

1:20:41

a hospital, first and foremost, everything

1:20:43

must be arranged in such a way that none of the

1:20:45

staff gets infected

1:20:48

with coronavirus, because one infected

1:20:50

orderly or nurse can cause terrible

1:20:52

damage, and there must be guarantees that none of the

1:20:54

doctors will become infected. But they have no

1:20:56

protective materials at all. A short

1:20:58

excerpt from Vasilyeva’s address: All over the world

1:21:00

the new coronavirus is raging, while here in

1:21:03

Russia what is raging is “community-acquired pneumonia,”

1:21:05

and as usual, what is also raging here is the lies

1:21:08

of the authorities and the intimidation of medical

1:21:10

workers. Colleagues, you have been mobilized to

1:21:13

fight supposedly against community-acquired pneumonia,

1:21:15

and at the same time you are being forced

1:21:18

to conceal the real situation, to stay silent about

1:21:20

the lack of protective equipment.

1:21:21

You are being forced to wear, sew, and wash

1:21:24

gauze masks; you are not being supplied with protective

1:21:27

suits, putting both you and

1:21:30

our entire country at risk. I urge you to stop

1:21:32

going along with the authorities and their ambitions,

1:21:34

to refuse to work without

1:21:36

personal protective equipment and demand that it

1:21:38

be properly provided to you. It’s 2020.

1:21:43

People and doctors are being told: come on, there’s an epidemic

1:21:45

all around, coronavirus, my God, we’re all going to die,

1:21:47

so please take your gauze mask

1:21:49

and wash it.

1:21:51

And besides, this costs next to nothing compared

1:21:53

with the gigantic spending

1:21:56

of the state—if only on

1:21:58

propaganda campaigns, on

1:22:00

maintaining some, I don’t know,

1:22:01

your whoever, or Vladimir Solovyov—it’s

1:22:03

just pennies to buy this

1:22:05

protective equipment. But they don’t buy it, they won’t buy it.

1:22:07

Meanwhile, this whole propaganda gang

1:22:10

just squeals when they come across

1:22:13

doctors who do not want to stay silent and

1:22:16

who do not want to cover up all these

1:22:18

falsifications and manipulations of the statistics

1:22:21

on coronavirus. Solovyov here was simply

1:22:23

screeching, and by the way he released his latest

1:22:25

program on YouTube, apparently intending to...

1:22:27

The show is called Solovyov Live, and he

1:22:29

has a much more flamboyant, vaudeville-like style there,

1:22:32

a much more theatrical kind of program. What I mean is,

1:22:34

he of course shows

1:22:36

all sorts of clips there and discusses things in that format.

1:22:38

He was literally squealing when he mentioned

1:22:42

the Doctors’ Alliance union and called it now

1:22:45

— you’ll hear it yourselves in a moment — very close to

1:22:48

leading into yet another point.

1:22:52

At the same time, in the clip you’re about to hear

1:22:54

the voice of one young woman, and let me remind you that

1:22:59

she has protection — not just anyone, but a general.

1:23:02

A very intimidating structure from foreign intelligence

1:23:04

is covering for her — it’s simply that her husband’s father is one, so she can do anything.

1:23:10

And they call themselves

1:23:13

the leaders of the so-called Doctors’ Alliance.

1:23:18

They’re provocateurs too,

1:23:22

scoundrels, alarmists, liars, as Arturas Krivonos correctly writes.

1:23:25

Arturas Krivonos says, of course, they shouldn’t be

1:23:29

strangled, but brought to heel under the law, as

1:23:34

Artur Krivonos writes. Again, the Doctors’ Alliance

1:23:37

cannot be interrupted.

1:23:39

He isn’t outraged that some

1:23:41

doctors are being told to wash and reuse gauze masks.

1:23:44

He isn’t outraged by that — he’s outraged at people

1:23:46

who say, ‘Just buy proper

1:23:48

masks already,’ because yes, they don’t care

1:23:51

that people will die. Just imagine: a doctor,

1:23:54

an orderly, a nurse who, wearing this

1:23:57

gauze mask, gets infected accidentally

1:23:59

from an incoming patient and then goes on

1:24:02

to infect others.

1:24:03

She’ll spread the coronavirus through a hospital where

1:24:05

there are elderly people with chronic

1:24:07

illnesses — the very group with that

1:24:10

20 percent mortality rate. But this is just

1:24:12

catastrophic madness, and still

1:24:16

the day before yesterday

1:24:17

Danilkina from a municipality

1:24:19

in St. Petersburg simply posts

1:24:21

a photo. I look at it and you realize

1:24:23

that people should simply be jailed for this. Right now

1:24:25

the coronavirus epidemic has been officially recognized, and there is quarantine everywhere,

1:24:28

yet United Russia is holding a

1:24:32

concert for the 70th anniversary of Victory in the municipal district

1:24:35

Kommendantsky Aerodrom (a district in St. Petersburg).

1:24:36

They gathered a bunch of elderly people into one

1:24:39

room, put on a concert for them, gave them new

1:24:42

— apparently they were handing out some kind of

1:24:44

packages there, I don’t know, sausage or sprats — well,

1:24:47

give them that sausage or those sprats,

1:24:50

just send it to them in some way

1:24:51

so that these people, during quarantine

1:24:55

and during an epidemic — elderly people,

1:24:57

veterans — aren’t exposed to this. It’s genuinely disgusting. Are they

1:25:00

not afraid that one person there

1:25:02

who is infected will infect them all and that

1:25:04

half of them will simply die after that?

1:25:06

United Russia doesn’t give a damn. United Russia and

1:25:09

Putin want to hold their vote

1:25:11

before April 2, so this is not

1:25:13

alarmism at all.

1:25:14

It is absolutely right that every

1:25:16

one of us should specifically tell our own

1:25:18

elderly relatives, among others,

1:25:20

‘Don’t go, and be outraged

1:25:23

if this vote is held.’ It seems to me that

1:25:26

even the political aspect

1:25:27

is less important than the

1:25:31

medical one, because this is a crime.

1:25:33

They’ll also be driving people there; they’ll

1:25:35

be bribing and manipulating these

1:25:37

pensioners, luring them with food. They’ll

1:25:39

say, ‘Come, we’ll give you food,’ and

1:25:41

these unfortunate people will go there, to those

1:25:44

polling stations during an epidemic in order to

1:25:47

vote for Putin simply for

1:25:48

some can of green peas or something,

1:25:50

because they are poor, and this is simply

1:25:53

the most real, genuine

1:25:55

crime. 21:25 — our program has been on for almost an hour and a half.

1:25:59

Our program is on the air; 67 people are watching

1:26:01

live.

1:26:02

Well, speaking of poor people and a can

1:26:04

of green peas, I still can’t help but

1:26:06

say something about the many people in

1:26:09

Russia’s so-called middle class, because this

1:26:11

statement by Putin impressed

1:26:14

the entire country this week.

1:26:16

I was even just monitoring

1:26:20

the social media of various pro-Putin

1:26:23

oddballs — I’m curious what talking points

1:26:25

are being handed down to them and what they’re saying there — and even I

1:26:28

saw a certain amount of shock there because

1:26:31

Putin actually stated that in Russia, 70

1:26:34

percent are middle class, and that the middle

1:26:37

class includes those who earn 17,000

1:26:41

rubles a month (about 17,000 rubles, roughly equivalent to a very low monthly income by international standards). In other words, grandpa has completely drifted off

1:26:45

into outer space. Let’s listen to what he said about the middle

1:26:48

class — where they said it would be more than

1:26:51

half. Listen, so this is what ‘middle

1:26:55

class’ means.

1:26:57

If you think that the middle class means

1:26:59

living the way people do in France, Germany, or

1:27:03

the United States, then that does not correspond

1:27:05

to reality. The middle class is different in every

1:27:08

country. There is a corresponding

1:27:10

methodology.

1:27:11

The World Bank’s methodology is that

1:27:14

the middle class is calculated by the number of

1:27:16

households

1:27:17

or people whose incomes are one and a half times

1:27:19

higher than the minimum wage.

1:27:22

[music]

1:27:24

We have a lot of people like that.

1:27:28

Our minimum wage is 11,280 rubles,

1:27:32

I think, this year, and average

1:27:35

salaries are much higher, so we have quite a lot of such people.

1:27:37

You hear how confidently he says

1:27:39

‘70 percent’ and ‘middle’

1:27:41

— mediocre class, really. But you know,

1:27:45

we have to proceed from reality

1:27:47

— or rather, not from reality, but from the World Bank’s methodology.

1:27:49

And the man understands perfectly well that this

1:27:52

will be seen by millions of people. How can you

1:27:55

tell millions of people, among whom there are millions

1:27:57

who are destitute — that is, people who are genuinely poor?

1:27:59

earning 17,000 rubles

1:28:00

someone who earns 17,000 rubles pays

1:28:03

then 6,000 rubles for utilities and housing services and

1:28:05

and then they’re not just counting every kopeck of

1:28:09

wages by Western standards, and they can’t buy

1:28:10

themselves anything — for them, if you earn 17,000

1:28:15

rubles and live in Moscow — or even in the regions — you

1:28:16

can’t afford to buy yourself a coffee and a bun for

1:28:19

lunch, and they understand perfectly well that they are

1:28:22

not middle class at all — they are very

1:28:24

poor people; they are already in the

1:28:26

lower end of poverty. He understands that

1:28:29

all this talk about the middle class — you

1:28:30

know, the World Bank has a methodology, and according

1:28:32

to the World Bank’s methodology, if we’re not lying

1:28:35

and just look at the reality, here in Russia

1:28:37

the middle class is not 70 percent — take away the zero,

1:28:40

it’s 7 percent. You can

1:28:42

just google it right now and see, but

1:28:44

7 percent is the real

1:28:46

share of the middle class in Russia. But

1:28:49

I mean, people are just juggling

1:28:51

numbers, and still have the nerve

1:28:53

to say — what is Putin’s logic here? We have

1:28:56

a minimum wage of 11,000 rubles

1:29:00

and the World Bank says that if you earn

1:29:02

70 percent more than the minimum

1:29:04

amount,

1:29:05

then you’re middle class. Well then just lower

1:29:08

the minimum wage to one ruble

1:29:10

and then, it turns out, 1.70 rubles

1:29:13

would count as middle class, and someone earning 5

1:29:16

rubles a month would be

1:29:17

insanely rich. I mean, this is

1:29:19

just absolutely, brazenly false and

1:29:21

hypocritical, based on first-grade

1:29:24

math. Any first-grader

1:29:26

understands that 17,000 rubles is not

1:29:29

middle class. Middle class is a person

1:29:31

who

1:29:32

can afford to buy things. Middle class means

1:29:35

a person who can save money. Middle

1:29:36

class is a person who says,

1:29:38

“I need boots,” and goes out and buys

1:29:40

boots. A person earning 17,000 rubles

1:29:42

cannot do that. Middle class is

1:29:44

a person who wanted to buy a TV

1:29:46

and bought one two months later, not on credit;

1:29:48

someone who wanted to buy a car and

1:29:50

bought one a year or two later.

1:29:52

That is not the majority of people in Russia, unfortunately.

1:29:55

That’s exactly why I saw that

1:29:58

one of the most popular tweets — I

1:30:00

even asked, if it’s available, please show it —

1:30:01

it said that if the price of

1:30:03

oil drops by another $10 per barrel,

1:30:05

then in Russia, middle class will include

1:30:07

literally anyone wearing pants.

1:30:08

That’s exactly how it will be. By

1:30:10

Putin’s logic, that’s exactly how it is. And

1:30:14

the question is: why is he saying this? When I

1:30:18

heard all this, I thought, well,

1:30:22

it’s obvious that he is interested in being

1:30:24

more popular, not less

1:30:26

popular, and clearly Putin is not interested

1:30:28

in having the whole country, including all

1:30:30

Putin supporters, discussing and getting outraged over this

1:30:33

statement about 17,000 rubles

1:30:35

being middle class. It’s just — excuse me — the man has

1:30:39

drifted off into parallel worlds, and

1:30:42

that’s not an exaggeration. Since what year has he

1:30:46

been a big boss?

1:30:49

Since the early-to-mid 1990s. This man

1:30:53

was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg

1:30:55

then moved on from there and joined

1:30:57

the Kremlin’s Control Directorate, then

1:31:00

went on to become head of the FSB (Russia’s security service)

1:31:01

and before that, by the way, he lived in

1:31:03

Germany, when the entire Soviet Union

1:31:06

was in utter poverty, while this guy was living in

1:31:08

Germany, where everything was much, much

1:31:09

better. I lived in a military town myself, somewhere

1:31:12

and there were some kids there whose

1:31:13

parents had not served abroad, and there were

1:31:16

a small number of kids whose fathers

1:31:18

came back from Germany, from Hungary, having

1:31:20

served in the Western Group of Forces, and of course

1:31:22

those were super-rich people. They had

1:31:24

Salamander shoes, they had a Madonna dinner set,

1:31:27

they had colorful wrappers

1:31:29

from chewing gum — other kids didn’t have any of that. And

1:31:32

Putin, in fact, has been living for 30 years

1:31:34

the life of

1:31:37

a high-ranking nomenklatura official (Soviet-style ruling elite), and in that

1:31:39

sense, the gap

1:31:40

between him and any ordinary

1:31:43

person is simply astonishing

1:31:46

and colossal. Still,

1:31:48

even a deputy mayor in the mid-1990s

1:31:50

of the country’s second-largest city after Moscow — this

1:31:52

was a man sitting in an office with

1:31:54

a line of petitioners outside it,

1:31:56

in St. Petersburg’s city hall, where they stole

1:31:58

on a huge scale. Even back then they were

1:32:01

Putin, I think, was already

1:32:03

a millionaire by then, because that whole

1:32:05

gang under Sobchak (Anatoly Sobchak, St. Petersburg’s mayor at the time), of course,

1:32:07

were super-corrupt people. And

1:32:09

basically, all of them — Sechin,

1:32:10

Miller, and Dima Medvedev — they all

1:32:13

remained. So ever since those times they have

1:32:16

simply been living in some other universe. This

1:32:18

is, by the way, perfectly illustrated by

1:32:20

the current head of St. Petersburg, Beglov

1:32:23

I mean, who is he, really? Just

1:32:25

some kind of minor

1:32:26

ridiculous mustached man, pretty insignificant,

1:32:29

but even for him

1:32:31

they stage an entire little performance. Look, even

1:32:33

for some basically insignificant

1:32:35

governor, whose political weight is far less

1:32:37

than governors had in the 1990s,

1:32:39

when governors had real powers — he goes into a

1:32:41

store

1:32:41

and talks to a woman. Let’s watch.

1:32:52

From

1:32:57

so that

1:33:02

no

1:33:11

Tell me.

1:33:13

Well, there doesn't seem to be anything interesting so far.

1:33:16

Some pathetic Beglov came into a

1:33:18

store and chatted with this woman.

1:33:20

The woman was planted; she was immediately

1:33:22

exposed. She turned out to be an actress

1:33:24

from some TV series, and it turned out she was the mother of

1:33:27

Beglov's security guard. Good Lord, even for him

1:33:30

they managed to arrange some lousy staged footage in a

1:33:33

store, showing them buying something there,

1:33:34

some pasta, with a planted person. And for Putin,

1:33:38

these planted people have been around for 20 years already.

1:33:40

He doesn't see anyone except

1:33:42

planted people. Every time he—well, you've

1:33:45

seen plenty of those ridiculous photos

1:33:47

where he's meeting with some fishermen or

1:33:50

ordinary lumberjacks or just regular people

1:33:52

who, supposedly, surround the church—it's all

1:33:55

some kind of extras. All these people are, well,

1:33:59

I mean, it's just absolutely, absolutely

1:34:01

all staged. And because of that, he—well, he

1:34:04

has completely lost touch and is somewhere totally

1:34:05

detached from reality. That's exactly why, in that same

1:34:07

interview, the guy first

1:34:09

said that in Russia

1:34:11

70 percent of the middle class lives on 18,000 rubles (about US$200)

1:34:13

a month, and then he starts talking about how in

1:34:14

France—well, in France, basically, in

1:34:16

France things are supposedly very bad. Let's listen to a clip

1:34:18

about how things are in France.

1:34:22

He didn't want to increase incomes—like in

1:34:24

France. Well, look at what's happening there.

1:34:27

All right, and then there are these constant

1:34:29

protests—entire sectors

1:34:32

of the economy stop functioning during these

1:34:34

riots. One person was killed, many

1:34:37

were injured, eyes were shot out

1:34:39

by rubber bullets. Nonsense. Is that what you

1:34:42

want? I don't think so. But the point is,

1:34:45

in France, people came out into the streets.

1:34:46

Macron made a move, then backed off,

1:34:51

he reversed course. Well, all right,

1:34:55

I don't know—was that good for the French people? I think yes.

1:34:57

Though I don't mean to advocate

1:35:00

it. First of all, nothing substantial

1:35:02

changed. They were discussing pension

1:35:06

reform—France was also carrying out

1:35:07

a pension reform, and Macron backed down.

1:35:09

There's nothing good about that either.

1:35:10

No, but in France the average salary is 251,000 rubles (about US$2,800)

1:35:14

and this guy, completely seriously,

1:35:16

says there's nothing

1:35:18

good about France, because he thinks

1:35:19

a good country and a bad country are not defined by

1:35:22

the fact that here people get 17,000 and there it's 251,000.

1:35:25

So, well,

1:35:26

both of us still think it's better

1:35:27

to live in a country where the average is 251,000 rubles (about US$2,800),

1:35:29

rather than one where the 'middle class' lives on 17,000. But Putin

1:35:32

seems to think a good country is one where

1:35:34

the people stay quiet, where if anyone goes out

1:35:36

into the streets, no decisions

1:35:38

get reversed. In France, the authorities are forced

1:35:40

to yield.

1:35:40

Of course, in his view, there's nothing good about that. Fine, and

1:35:43

here it doesn't matter that it's 17,000, and he

1:35:45

really does think that. And he thinks that

1:35:48

we think so too—that a good country is one

1:35:51

where the master and the tsar order everyone around.

1:35:53

Because, again, because

1:35:55

with the ice-cream seller, it was the same story, because

1:35:57

back in 2017 he came

1:36:00

to the MAKS air show (a major Russian aviation exhibition) and saw

1:36:02

that same ice-cream vendor.

1:36:08

There were lots of people around.

1:36:10

He went to buy something for himself.

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And then two years pass, and Putin again

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goes out among the people. He wants to talk

1:36:21

to ordinary people, and there's that same simple

1:36:23

woman again. Two years later, he

1:36:25

walks up to her, and the team sees that

1:36:44

it's the very same person, the very same

1:36:53

ice-cream seller. It's all just so absurd.

1:36:55

It has turned into a clown show. But when

1:36:57

this goes on for one year, two years, three

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years—when it goes on for 20 years straight, and before

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that you were still some kind of

1:37:05

untouchable big shot, a deputy governor,

1:37:06

director of the FSB (Russia's security service),

1:37:08

some very rich man who

1:37:10

moves around with security, with an official car,

1:37:13

and an official apartment,

1:37:14

you really do simply lose touch with

1:37:16

reality. I'm just saying this outright: the 70

1:37:19

thousand people watching this live

1:37:21

can see that he has, of course, completely lost touch with

1:37:23

reality. And, by the way, you can see it very

1:37:25

clearly in those moments when he

1:37:27

can't always be

1:37:29

surrounded only by accomplices, and when he finds himself

1:37:31

somewhere there are actual

1:37:34

real people. He starts, rather comically,

1:37:36

discussing salaries with these people and

1:37:38

trying to prove that their salaries are actually

1:37:40

a little higher than they really are.

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Let's look at his meeting at a

1:37:45

factory. 'On average?' 'About...'

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'At the enterprise, the average is around 90,000.'

1:37:56

'Well, not exactly.'

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'Our average is a bit higher.'

1:38:11

'HR says 70,000.'

1:38:15

'HR would know.'

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You see? That's how it all works.

1:38:20

So he says, 'Well then, comrade, tell us

1:38:21

the average.' And apparently at that very moment the man got flustered,

1:38:24

the performer who was supposed to

1:38:26

play the role of a worker, and he says, '30–40, you understand?'

1:38:28

How do you get from 30–40 to 90? Exactly. And he probably

1:38:32

walked away from there thinking, 'What a

1:38:34

stupid woman—she doesn't know that actually

1:38:36

the average salary at the

1:38:38

enterprise is, of course, 90,000 rubles (about US$1,000). She simply

1:38:40

doesn't understand how it all works.' Even though

1:38:43

30–40 thousand is actually fairly good

1:38:44

30–40 thousand is twice as much as

1:38:47

what a person who is supposed to belong

1:38:49

to the middle class gets.

1:38:51

Smart Voting—none of these people, they don't...

1:38:56

They will never step aside on their own; they can only be pushed aside.

1:38:58

They can be removed in different ways—through rallies and so on.

1:39:02

There is a wide range of things that need to be done.

1:39:04

People need to campaign, but they have become so detached from reality

1:39:06

that they seriously

1:39:09

believe this internal idea that

1:39:13

that

1:39:14

17,000 rubles a month is the middle class, and that at any factory

1:39:17

people earn 90,000 rubles, and that the ice cream maker should always

1:39:20

be the same one—that this is normal, that

1:39:23

you can simply walk into a store and

1:39:25

run into your security guard’s mother by chance, and that

1:39:27

a photo with you has already

1:39:29

become the very essence of this government. They will never leave on their own.

1:39:32

So they must be fought.

1:39:34

Let’s

1:39:37

do it with all our strength. Thank you

1:39:40

very much to everyone who watched my

1:39:42

rather long livestream. See you

1:39:43

next Thursday. Don’t call Nenasheva by that name.

1:39:45

And don’t forget to click the button

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to sponsor the channel. Thank you very much. Bye.

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