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Good evening, everyone. It is exactly 8:00 p.m. in Moscow.

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That means we are live on air

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its host,

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Alexei Navalny.

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Or, as the man supposedly hatching plans for bloody

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protests—that is what the Kremlin

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media called me this week. I really am nurturing

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some plans, and if you are nurturing some too,

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then nurture them together with me—please send

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your questions, comments, and

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so on via Twitter with the hashtag #Russia

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OfTheFuture. They will be shown to me here, and I will

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read them out. I wanted to begin with the topic of

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the falsification of history. You know, lately this topic has

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also been troubling me lately,

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just as it has been troubling Vladimir Putin, because both he and

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the entire Russian government—just look at what

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Yarovaya is saying—

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they are outright obsessed with erecting some kind of

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barriers against the falsification of history,

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because villains all over the world,

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in the West first and foremost, are apparently doing nothing but

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thinking about how to falsify history,

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especially

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the history of our wonderful little Russia,

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or of the Soviet Union. Heaven forbid they

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do something wrong over there, or cast doubt on our

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greatness. Falsifying history—there is

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criminal liability for that. Remember, they wanted

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to introduce it, and even now there is criminal

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liability, or at least it is being planned,

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for denying the role of the... and so on. Well then,

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they really are so concerned about

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the falsification of history. They even started giving

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Putin—let's watch for twenty-one seconds

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to see how personally concerned he is: "Unfortunately, the most

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sacred things sometimes become the object

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of speculation. Of course, none of this is new.

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This is not the first time we have seen and heard it. We

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have repeatedly encountered a selective

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approach to history in service of political

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expediency.

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But now these processes have taken the form

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of a truly aggressive campaign."

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A selective approach to history in service of

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political expediency—an aggressive campaign has now begun,

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says Vladimir Putin,

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and that is exactly what is happening

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right now. This is actually not even

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a minor thing, but an important one that shows

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quite clearly that the real

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falsifiers of history are in the Kremlin.

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The point is that a big book was published some time ago,

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a large book about the sporting achievements

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of the sports society

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Spartak, and in general the sporting achievements

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of our country. And

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the authors of this book included in it, because it was related to

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the Spartak sports society,

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Spartak,

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the triumphant—without any irony—

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triumphant victories of the great Soviet

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and Russian chess player Garry Kasparov.

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And then, just like that—gone. They cut it all out of the book.

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So they literally falsified

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history. Come on, guys, really—

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you cannot erase words from a song; real

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history is what it is.

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Garry Kasparov now criticizes Putin, and

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criticizes him quite harshly, but even so,

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he is in fact

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—and probably no one would argue with this—

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the greatest living chess player,

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the greatest chess player on planet Earth

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to have lived in our time. And he is real—

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he is right here, he speaks Russian,

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language,

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he has a Russian passport, so you can

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touch him, you can talk to him,

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he publishes books about chess,

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some computer programs, he

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—remember—

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played against all kinds of supercomputers and

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beat one once, then lost the second time. So,

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Garry Kasparov is an incredibly great

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chess player, truly an outstanding

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figure—well, as a chess player, super-mega-extra

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great, and part of our history, actually. We are

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supposed to be proud of that. But they just walked up and

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cut it out. Why? Because right now

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Garry Kasparov does not like Putin. And yet

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let's look at 1985, at how he was

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honored after his victory.

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It really was a triumph, and it was our victory.

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Why should we cut that out now

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simply because Putin does not like it,

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because some people do not like it? Here, they love

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making films about how, say, in 1962

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in a semifinal we almost scored there,

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or some marvelous puck

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flew into the net in 1983, and in some year

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we broke through or won something, and to this day

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everyone loves remembering how at the

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World Cup we played Yugoslavia, or

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in Yugoslavia—well, I am very into

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football,

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but they chew that over endlessly. And here,

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you simply beat everyone outright,

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basically. They were competing at the top level:

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Karpov and Kasparov, two of our people, one

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of them won, and the whole world watched and said,

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"Wow, these Russians are amazing." And now

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we are supposed to forget it? Falsifiers—

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real falsifiers and falsifiers

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of history.

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Which once again, of course, shows us that

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Putin and all this government, in essence, do not care at all about

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the country or its heritage.

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They could not care less, even though this is part of our

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heritage, and we must not hand it over to

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these crooks and scoundrels. Let us see

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how this whole

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book story develops; quite a serious

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scandal has flared up. And really,

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there is no answer to it. There he is, Kasparov—he

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really is a great athlete there,

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and it is impossible to cut him out. Let us see what happens.

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what they will do and how they will

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wriggle out of it. You’ve probably heard that

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today we filed a lawsuit against Vladimir

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Putin. When I say “we,” I mean

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the Anti-Corruption Foundation as an organization,

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me, the founder of the Anti-Corruption

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Foundation, and more than 10 people,

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employees of the Anti-Corruption Foundation. There

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is a long video about this on our

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channel, Navalny LIVE. Let’s

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show a minute of it as a reminder.

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Right now, lying on the table in front of me,

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is a document. It’s an ordinary lawsuit. You’ve

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seen dozens of them. What makes this one unusual is one

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name of the defendant.

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That defendant is the President of the Russian

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Federation, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

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Our constitutional rights have been violated,

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and we intend to defend them. We are filing

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a lawsuit against Putin because we believe it is precisely

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this offended man with his lips tightly

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pressed together

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who is guilty of the largest political

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repression case of the past decade.

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The FBK case is an attempt

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to shake a fist and a petty act of revenge

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by the president for our anti-corruption

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investigations, and an illegal

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attempt by the president to hold on to power

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in the country by criminal means. The President of Russia

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directs and oversees the activities

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of the Investigative Committee, so the attack on

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FBK

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is the president’s direct responsibility.

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Thank you, Vladimir Vladimirovich.

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Our rights and freedoms have been violated:

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the constitutional right to association,

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to form trade unions, and to

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disseminate information. We demand

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that the FBK case be closed. The Constitution must

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be observed. Stop puffing yourselves up and

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pursing your lips in offense. Do your

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job the way we do ours.

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Follow the laws and the Constitution the way

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we do. That was recorded in one take back then,

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those heartfelt words about

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“follow your own Constitution.” Why did we

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do this? You can hear the reproach:

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“Well, this is just a political gesture, guys. How

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can you possibly sue Putin?”

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It is, in a sense, a statement, not

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just a legal act, of course.

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It is a statement, but it is also very definitely

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a legal matter. In America, people sue

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Trump, and sometimes they win, and

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lawsuits are filed against him there.

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Legislatures, judges, and

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prosecutors themselves initiate certain

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cases. In particular, when Trump was in

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office, his decision to ban entry

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and restrict the admission of Muslim

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migrants was overturned

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by the Supreme Court because people

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sued over that Trump decision, and it

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was canceled. In the beautiful Russia of the future,

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people will be able to sue the president and

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apparently win against him in court. And we, we

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act as though we are already in the beautiful

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Russia of the future. After all, we

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stand for the law, we act according to

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the law. And really, who is organizing these

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searches? Well, of course they don’t like us.

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Bastrykin doesn’t like us, Chaika doesn’t like us,

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none of those sitting in the Kremlin likes us,

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that’s obvious. But the order to organize

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all of this, obviously, came from Putin. Putin

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directly, under the law,

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organizes it; he is in fact the chief

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boss of the Investigative

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Committee. So we want to put on record

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that we accuse him. And the amount

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of lawlessness in this case is simply

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enormous—these insane searches,

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seizures, they come and take things away from people, from

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us too, and

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then there is the designation of us as a “foreign agent” (a Russian legal label for organizations deemed under foreign influence). In

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court, the Justice Ministry came in and said, yes, foreign

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agent. We said, well, show us the document—what

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foreign money, exactly, did we

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receive? They said, the judge has been shown

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a certain memo, here it is.

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Please take a look. But no, we won’t

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let you photograph it, we won’t give you the memo.

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Everything is written there. The judge looked at

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this memo, which we were not allowed to see, and said:

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yes, yes, yes, I recognize you as foreign agents.

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Of course, it’s all part of one package. This

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case against FBK, which consists of

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all sorts of these fabricated

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money-laundering charges that were publicized,

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the foreign-agent designation, and so

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on—of course it was initiated by Putin.

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Putin chaired the meeting

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where all these decisions were made.

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They were adopted there.

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And today there was a funny photo.

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Zhanna—well, not funny, really, but striking—

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Zhanna, the wife of Ivan Zhdanov, director of FBK, went to

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an interrogation. The director’s wife was summoned for

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questioning, and she photographed this

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remarkable document. It’s called a roadmap,

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a roadmap for the investigation in the

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criminal case against the director of

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FBK, Ivan Zhdanov—a whole roadmap.

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All these roadmaps were approved at

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a meeting where Putin was present. Putin

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is directly involved in this, and we are

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directly bringing our claims against him. And

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sooner or later, this will be investigated.

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This is very important to us. We are doing it,

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among other things, so that, of course, people do not

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forget. We’re doing it because, well, otherwise

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it all starts to feel routine: everyone’s accounts are being drained,

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cards are blocked, but somehow we’ve

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been living with this for several

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months already, God knows how, and it’s like, well, let

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people go on thinking—even our supporters,

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even you may think, well, it’s all somehow become normal.

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Navalny is doing fine there, sounding upbeat.

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He’s rattling away on air, so that means everything is fine, but

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we’re fine, everything is fine with us, we’ll keep talking,

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keep talking, keep releasing investigations,

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keep putting out investigations, and of course we

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will become even stronger.

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And we will, after we get out of

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this situation—or even if we don’t and remain

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in it, we’ll still grow stronger. But

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all the same, we still need your support.

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We still want you to keep

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talking about all of this. So, well, I have

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a question from Alexei: tell us more about

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the lawsuit against Putin you mentioned on air—it’s just not very

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clear what the mechanism and the goals are. Look,

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the mechanism is very simple. Under

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the law, we have the right to demand recognition

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that actions or inaction are unlawful.

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There is a law on the Investigative Committee,

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and there are constitutional provisions under which

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Putin is the guarantor of the Constitution. If across the whole country

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there is a completely unprecedented,

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unprecedented in scale number

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of searches—hundreds at once—then Putin,

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as guarantor of the Constitution, should say:

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what is going on here? These searches, this

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money-laundering case—

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you cannot open a case under such a charge if there was no

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underlying crime from which the funds

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were supposedly laundered. This whole case is absolutely

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fabricated. Besides, why are they taking

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phones away from random grandmothers in villages

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and so on? That is

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completely lawless. So as

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guarantor of the Constitution, Putin should say

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to the prosecutor, to the head of the Investigative Committee,

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to stop it. He does not do that—that’s first. And

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second, we can see that the Investigative

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Committee is organizing all of this, and Putin, under

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Article 2 of the law on the Investigative

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Committee,

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is effectively its de facto head.

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He directs the work of the Investigative Committee,

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and in that sense

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the mechanism is very clear: we demand

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that his inaction be recognized as unlawful,

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and we demand that

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his actions be recognized as unlawful. We are ready

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to present

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evidence in an independent court.

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Whether they accept the claim or not, we’ll

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see. But as I wrote today in my

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post,

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under him, they just accept

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claims from some noodle shop, damn it, some shabby restaurant

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in Armenia, where some taxi company shows up and

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says, you know, let Navalny

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and Sobol both pay compensation there

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because people would have eaten more noodles that day

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otherwise, but instead, supposedly, people

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lost their appetite because of the rallies, and we

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have to pay them all. This is

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absolutely unlawful nonsense, and yet they accept those claims.

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So they ought to accept ours too, at least a little, because

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among this whole flood of lawsuits,

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ours is actually the most reasonable one. Viktor

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Medved asks me: Alexei, can

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Putin in any way respond to

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your suit? Viktor, well, let me say this:

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please understand, over the course of

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his whole time in power, has Putin ever

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responded in any way to even one of our

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complaints? I think, of course—I’m sure

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that Putin will pretend that nothing

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is happening, and that the court will try to throw out

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our lawsuit. Remember, at one point we filed

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an exactly similar, very clear and straightforward

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lawsuit when Putin, by his personal decision,

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allocated a cash subsidy that

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benefited his son-in-law Kirill Shamalov.

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That is a direct conflict of interest under the law.

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We said that Putin cannot do that,

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that it is illegal, and in exactly the same way our

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lawsuit was not accepted. Putin pretended that

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nothing was happening. The entire press wrote about it,

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everyone was interested, well, because

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it really was illegal: he had effectively

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signed over, given, essentially, to his

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son-in-law, if I remember correctly, about a billion

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dollars. Putin did not respond in any way, and here

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he will try not to respond either. But the fact that they do not

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respond to our investigations does not

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mean that we should stop doing them. All of this

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goes into a folder, as they say.

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They said I was supposedly nurturing plans for

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bloody protests. Sooner or later,

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all these files of ours,

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they are part of what we are building. And it is

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not bloody at all—just absolutely

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within the law. But all the same, we are not going to

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drop any of this. And I also want to say a few more words about Putin,

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because it has become so great and

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funny—just hilarious—to watch him.

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We are simply going to get

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enormous enjoyment over the course of his

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remaining

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years in power. Quite possibly there are

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still quite a lot of them left, unfortunately.

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But that depends on you and me. Still,

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I guarantee it will only get funnier and

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funnier, at the very least because

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it’s all just running out: the guy has been in power so long

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that he has genuinely forgotten what

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happened ten years ago, fifteen years

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ago, and the people around him have forgotten too. And

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besides, the vocabulary and the number of

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political ideas they have are

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limited, so now they’re simply starting

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to say the same things over and over in circles, hoping

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that everyone has forgotten they were saying this

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10 years ago or 15 years ago.

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But the internet is the internet—it forgets

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nothing. This week, for example,

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it was just funny: it’s 2019, and right now there’s the forum

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“Russia Calling!” (a Russian investment forum), this regular forum

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that Putin always attends, an economic

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forum where he talks about his breakthrough

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economic ideas—his main thing, so to speak.

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a platform where he says something very

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important from an economic standpoint. Let’s

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watch. 29 seconds. The most important thing

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that Russia must do—what

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key structural changes I mean. We

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talk about this often and at length, but

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unfortunately, so far we are moving forward—and this needs

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to be said openly—we are moving forward

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slowly so far, and this is a serious challenge

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that we must respond to.

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First and foremost, the Russian government, our

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business community, must achieve

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radical shifts in increasing

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labor productivity on the basis of

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modern advanced technologies, simply

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qualifications, and new competencies, because

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what is the most important key task?

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Raising labor productivity, and

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he says every phrase very clearly,

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you can see he has these cue cards, and on them

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the thesis is written in large letters: increasing

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labor productivity and machine

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time. This takes us six years back

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to the same forum, in this very tower,

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the Russia Calling! forum, 2013. So what

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is Vladimir Putin demanding?

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And this is where the good news, so to speak,

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as the saying goes, comes to an end. At the same time,

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we lag behind developed economies by more than two times in

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terms of

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labor productivity.

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Such a gap between the level of consumption and

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efficiency is undoubtedly dangerous.

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Living off natural-resource rents at the expense of

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future generations—unearned

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prosperity. Labor productivity

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is everything to us. We instructed the government.

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Years passed, six years passed, and nothing

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changed. And before that he was demanding

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labor productivity, and he’ll demand

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higher labor productivity again,

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again in another six years,

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if he remains in power. That’s all he does—demand it

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an endless number of times.

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If you just google right now “Putin

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demanded an end to rising gasoline prices,”

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you’ll just laugh, because once a

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year, or once every two years at the very least, he

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resolutely demands of himself—Putin

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demands an end to the unjustified rise

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in housing and utility tariffs. He has been demanding this constantly for 20

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years in a row, and it gets funnier and funnier,

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because, well, okay, there are things like

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that which the public, in principle, wants—

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to stop gasoline prices from rising.

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But even things like

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labor productivity, or whatever

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macroeconomic decisions—everything

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has already been demanded many, many times, a lot

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has been said about it, and now all he has left

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is to repeat himself. More than that, the project

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and those magnificent projects that

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were announced with such enormous fanfare and

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started being announced a second time in 2006.

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Remember how some time ago literally

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every TV channel was broadcasting that

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at last, from Krasnoyarsk Krai (a region in Siberia)

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to Tuva there would be a railway? In 2011,

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Putin hammered in the ceremonial spike and launched the construction.

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Vladimir Putin launched the construction

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of the Kyzyl-Kuragino railway. It is a

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strategically important line. Its

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length is 401 kilometers (about 249 miles). It

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will connect Krasnoyarsk Krai with Tuva.

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The opening ceremony took place

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not far from the capital of the republic.

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That is exactly where the first station will be.

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Kyzyl-Passazhirskaya. The prime minister was handed

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a sledgehammer and entrusted with driving in a silver

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rail spike for the first section of the railway

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track.

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By order of the Chairman of the Government

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of the Russian Federation, Vladimir

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Vladimirovich Putin. What a sight—

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a silver spike, a hammer, sweeping

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blows. Back then Putin said the railway

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would begin operating in four years. 2011.

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Year.

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What do we have in 2019? In 2019

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we are being told that

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work on this section will begin in

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the following

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year, 2020. Well, because basically, yes, yes,

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this is how the authorities and officials operate:

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they start doing something and say,

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“In five years we’ll build it.” But in five

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years there’s a new election cycle, and

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most likely you won’t be in power anymore.

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And in eight years you definitely won’t be in

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power. Or, as you may remember, I showed

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a lot of funny images from 2005, 2003,

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when Roscosmos officials—we’ll talk more about them—

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loved to say that

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we would already be

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landing on the Moon by 2018 and

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landing on Mars, and then basically heading off

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to another galaxy—everything would be

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absolutely amazing. Or those famous videos

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where they said that by 2020 there would be

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a mainline built from St. Petersburg

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to Kamchatka.

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You’re just sitting in power, and then the time comes

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while you’re still in power. By the way, it’s very

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funny: 2020 is about to begin in

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a month and a half, and they had that program

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for socioeconomic growth through 2020,

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and it had many completely specific

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targets. It was the most important program

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of Putin’s, essentially. Putin’s government

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was governing Russia

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and making this program. It’ll be hilarious when

21:39

now everyone—including me, of course—

21:41

starts comparing what exactly they declared, what

21:44

they announced, and what they actually did.

21:47

Roughly nothing. Roughly nothing.

21:51

In Russia there is not a single

21:52

kilometer of high-speed railway, not

21:54

a single kilometer, because what runs from

21:56

From Moscow to St. Petersburg on the Sapsan (high-speed train) is not

21:58

high-speed rail at all — there’s nothing of the sort.

22:02

Let’s discuss it, it’ll be interesting. So, a question:

22:05

Shelest asks me: what do you think

22:07

about mandatory pre-installation

22:08

of domestic software on smartphones?

22:10

Indeed, today they passed, in the third

22:12

and final reading, a law under which in

22:14

Russia it will be impossible to sell your iPhone

22:17

or your Samsung or your Huawei if

22:20

they do not have domestic software installed.

22:23

Well, everyone got worked up and

22:26

started thinking: is this going to be spyware

22:28

that will be installed? But in practice, what

22:31

this will lead to is that on all phones

22:33

that are sold here, there will be

22:35

things like Yandex Maps installed,

22:36

definitely Yandex something-or-other, some kind of

22:38

junk, the Sputnik search engine,

22:40

and whatever it is they now have instead of Wikipedia,

22:43

that thing they’ve already spent

22:44

20 billion rubles on (about $220 million), and people who

22:46

buy a phone will spend their time

22:49

deleting it all immediately, I have no doubt.

22:52

I’m sure that mobile carriers that

22:55

sell phones will

22:56

immediately start offering services, just like now

22:58

they offer services saying, let us sell you

22:59

an iPhone for a few thousand rubles (tens of dollars)

23:03

2,000 rubles more expensive (about $20).

23:04

For the iPhone, we’ll install various

23:06

programs on it — there’ll be a similar service:

23:08

we can sell you your Samsung, and for another 1,000

23:11

rubles (about $10) we’ll remove the domestic software from it.

23:14

Besides, obviously this will lead to

23:17

people simply buying them abroad.

23:18

You understand, even in Belarus

23:21

or any other country now, if you just

23:22

go there, or if an acquaintance is going, then you’ll

23:25

say: buy me an iPhone without

23:27

any domestic software on it.

23:28

But I think that at the first stage, of course,

23:30

they won’t install any kind of spyware,

23:32

but overall, of course, they’re

23:35

looking at China, right, and they want to make

23:37

something similar to what is happening in China,

23:39

where — well, not everywhere, but in part of the country, in the

23:43

north, where Uyghurs live — you are required

23:46

to have spyware on your phone

23:50

that monitors your

23:52

messages and your movements. It’s not a law,

23:54

but you can be jailed

23:55

if they discover that your phone does not

23:58

have such a program installed. Ideally, that’s how they

24:00

see it working, but for now it will be

24:03

just this, just plain stupidity. Alexander

24:08

asks: Alexei, please comment

24:09

on your position regarding

24:10

Valery Rashkin’s statement

24:12

about impeaching Putin. I didn’t have time and

24:15

was preparing for the program. I know that he made

24:17

such a statement; I saw it trending on YouTube, and the

24:19

statement is up there. In any case,

24:22

I support it, because there are many, many

24:26

grounds on which Putin should be

24:28

impeached. At the very least,

24:30

the case we are making against Putin is that he has

24:32

committed such a number of absolutely

24:34

illegal actions that he most certainly

24:38

deserves it. Dima Akhmedzyanov asks

24:41

me: Alexei, what do you think about the logo

24:42

for St. Petersburg for 7 million rubles (about $77,000)?

24:44

It’s a pity there’s no picture of this logo. Well, I

24:46

am not trying to intrude into the realm

24:49

of art,

24:50

but in general this strange

24:53

obsession of all cities and some state

24:56

organizations, first and foremost, with

24:59

ordering logos from Artemy

25:01

Lebedev (a well-known Russian designer),

25:02

cities order them for a ruble, while

25:05

state corporations order them for hundreds of

25:07

— well, not hundreds, but for many millions

25:08

of rubles — or not from Lebedev anymore, the point is

25:11

from some other designers, real

25:14

or not-so-real designers — this is,

25:16

frankly speaking, complete nonsense. All these

25:19

logos — they exist, but what are they for?

25:22

Why does St. Petersburg need one, where, as

25:25

we’ve seen, they can’t even clear the snow?

25:27

To urgently change the logo, and especially

25:30

to spend 7 million rubles (about $77,000) on it — I

25:31

have no doubt that St. Petersburg is the kind of place

25:34

where you could announce an international competition

25:36

and say: design a logo for

25:38

St. Petersburg for one kopeck, and all

25:41

the world’s agencies, unknown designers,

25:45

whoever — they’d line up, because

25:46

it’s St. Petersburg. Of course they’d want

25:49

to draw a logo for St. Petersburg.

25:51

They’d want to, even if you only know how to draw

25:53

a little.

25:53

23,500 people are watching us live.

25:57

I want to talk about Penza — there

26:06

a rather tragic situation happened there.

26:07

People were snickering about it online too:

26:10

they boiled people alive. But in fact,

26:11

those people who were boiled — let’s watch the video — people

26:14

were driving in a car and fell in.

26:16

Let’s take a look. Here you can see the car

26:18

simply fell into a hole. You can see in this

26:20

video — this is a pit of boiling water, as

26:23

you can see. It was basically a roadway,

26:25

a road people drive on. A pipe burst,

26:29

boiling water started pouring out, it undermined the ground, well,

26:31

it simply turned into a lake of boiling water. Into it

26:33

fell a car, and two people died instantly.

26:35

As you can see, no one could do

26:37

anything. All of this would look like

26:43

the usual tragic situation for Russia

26:46

caused by the collapse of public utilities, if not for one

26:49

particular feature: these utility networks

26:53

belong to such a great guy by the name of

26:55

Viktor Vekselberg.

26:57

And this Viktor Vekselberg — we’ve known him for a long time,

27:01

we’ve been dealing with him for a long time. Back in

27:02

2011, we published a major

27:05

investigation into how he made his money.

27:07

simply several hundred million dollars

27:09

on flies, on the fly, on the nation, with the creation of

27:12

which he sold to the state, but in

27:16

reality, to the general public this man

27:18

Vekselberg is known for the fact that in 2004

27:23

he declared that he was doing a huge

27:26

service to all of Russia

27:28

by buying back abroad the Fabergé eggs that

27:32

had belonged to the imperial family, and with

27:35

those Fabergé eggs everyone made a huge fuss

27:37

naturally, there were lots of jokes about

27:39

the Fabergé eggs, and people joked about Vekselberg

27:43

he displayed them in some museums, and apparently

27:46

there was even talk that he would donate them

27:48

as a gift to a museum, though he never did, or

27:50

maybe he gave away a couple, but the point is

27:52

that Vekselberg’s business consists, among other things, in

27:55

grabbing enormous

27:58

chunks of the housing and utilities sector across the country, and from that sector

28:03

he extracts money, and with that money he, among other things,

28:06

buys those damn Fabergé eggs

28:09

buys real estate in Switzerland — all of

28:12

them there, well, that kind of oligarch

28:14

buy themselves yachts and planes — that’s

28:17

an important point, because

28:18

but people often tell me: why are you stirring up

28:21

hatred toward the rich? Maxim Galkin (a Russian TV host and entertainer)

28:23

remember, I argued with him about this

28:25

about the rich — why do you deliberately

28:28

draw attention to their yachts and

28:30

palaces? Because it’s not just officials

28:33

or just millionaires — why are you going after

28:35

Vekselberg over those Fabergé eggs? I

28:37

go after him because 90 percent of what

28:42

makes up

28:43

Russian billionaires, with rare

28:45

exceptions — like the guys behind Yandex or

28:48

Magnit, who built something from scratch —

28:51

this is simply

28:54

money earned from collapse and

28:58

poverty. This housing and utilities system in Penza, in

29:01

particular, is in such terrible

29:03

condition — that damn pipe had never been

29:05

repaired

29:06

and it burst, and there

29:10

two people died

29:11

because they spend money on all this

29:13

nonsense, because they think differently:

29:16

the state allows it, and the idea is that

29:18

we can simply keep raising utility rates. Abyzov (a former Russian minister) did

29:20

the same in Novosibirsk and across the

29:23

country: rates go up, but money for

29:27

improving the infrastructure is invested by no one

29:29

absolutely no one. We saw in Penza

29:32

in a fairly large city

29:33

that this does not happen — that money is simply

29:35

spent on some luxurious lifestyle, and

29:38

when another New Year comes around and

29:41

we are told that utility rates will rise

29:43

they attach a pile of papers, and on those

29:45

papers it says: technical and economic

29:47

justification

29:48

for raising rates above inflation, blah blah blah

29:51

there’s a whole stack of

29:53

documents in which, first of all, you

29:55

won’t understand anything, and second, they won’t

29:57

even show them to you. But the essence of those documents

29:59

is that somehow

30:01

Vekselberg once again needs a house

30:04

or a yacht, or his business is in trouble and

30:06

he needs to cover losses, and therefore

30:08

the pipe in Penza

30:10

no one will ever repair until

30:13

as long as we have these

30:14

housing and utilities monopolists sitting in Moscow, in monopoly positions

30:18

and in all the other cities there exist

30:20

in most cities there exists this kind of

30:22

monopoly. That is precisely why a major

30:24

part of my program has always been

30:26

demonopolization. Milov, in his program,

30:29

constantly talks about this: until we

30:32

smash apart all those people in the housing and utilities sector

30:36

— I almost called them fat cats

30:39

— just plain crooks who

30:42

historically grabbed for themselves

30:44

huge chunks of it — this should not

30:46

be the case. Housing and utilities is a highly competitive

30:49

sector, and we pay quite a lot for these services

30:52

people can earn money there under conditions of

30:55

a market economy

30:56

but if everything is arranged so that you have

30:59

monopolists, then in any case you will

31:01

have to pay them

31:01

we will keep seeing these

31:04

monstrous stories: someone

31:05

fell into a pit

31:07

someone was boiled alive there. I’m being asked:

31:11

Alexei, what do you think of the bill

31:13

on the prevention of domestic violence? In our country

31:15

in general, with these draft laws on

31:16

domestic violence, strange

31:18

things are happening — outrageous and unacceptable things

31:21

at first the state

31:23

declared that it would

31:25

decriminalize the article on battery because

31:28

most cases of battery

31:29

are, like, when a husband

31:32

beats his wife

31:32

90 percent of such cases, they said,

31:35

well, you know, a husband beat his wife — that’s

31:38

a private family matter. But if in your

31:40

apartment someone smashes my face in,

31:42

that can somehow be dealt with, but here

31:44

it’s all this “if he beats you, he loves you” nonsense

31:46

and all the rest of that crap. They said they would

31:48

decriminalize it, after which

31:50

naturally, a huge scandal broke out

31:52

because one woman was killed, then another was killed too

31:55

that’s how it used to work before:

31:57

the husband got drunk and started fighting with his wife and

32:01

the children; she could at least call the local police officer

32:03

and he would be locked up for 15 days or taken

32:05

to the police station. Now they say, well,

32:07

it’s all decriminalized — “if he beats you, he

32:09

loves you” — but then he killed one, then another

32:13

then a third, and a huge scandal began. There are

32:17

women’s organizations, and not only

32:18

women’s groups — any normal people are speaking out

32:20

for what, of course, should be

32:22

criminalized. If a person

32:24

beats their relatives at home, they

32:26

are committing a crime, and that is in no way

32:29

different—quite possibly it's even worse

32:31

than when he simply beats up some

32:34

passerby on the street, because his

32:36

family members are far more defenseless, and

32:38

now this whole

32:40

mess is starting up—a special law,

32:42

they're introducing something like that. None of

32:45

that is necessary. Unfortunately, a phenomenon

32:48

like domestic violence—a husband beats his wife, a wife

32:54

beats the children, the head of the family beats everyone

32:58

indiscriminately—has always existed. We must

33:00

eradicate it. It existed in the Russian Empire

33:01

it existed in the Soviet Union, and

33:03

it was regulated—there was, damn it, a normal

33:05

criminal code where all of this

33:06

was covered. If there's the will, there's an article of law.

33:10

So if he's getting violent,

33:11

then let's lock him up for 15 days or for a year, but

33:14

instead they first come up with a bunch of bullshit because

33:16

they're fighting against this so-called juvenile

33:19

justice system.

33:20

They say the state must not interfere in

33:22

family matters, so *Domostroi* (a traditional patriarchal Russian code of household rules)

33:24

is supposedly fine: a bearded man in a *kosovorotka* (traditional Russian shirt)

33:26

comes in and smacks everyone around,

33:28

and that's apparently how they imagine

33:31

people ought to live. That's the kind of idea

33:33

they have in their heads. So there is constant

33:36

pressure, including from the church, under

33:37

the influence of strange people who

33:39

call themselves conservatives, but in fact

33:41

they are just some kind of

33:43

crazy, dangerous lunatics. We constantly

33:45

see a push in favor of

33:48

not prosecuting anyone

33:50

for domestic violence. That is, of course, complete

33:53

nonsense. Alexei will talk about what's happening in

33:56

Shiyes (a protest site in northern Russia)—well, to give you an idea of what's going on there,

33:58

there is a genuinely heroic

33:59

resistance by local residents. I saw

34:02

people forming chains, linking up like that,

34:04

trying to encircle the area, and

34:06

that's why people from the city council went there to defend

34:11

the camp from being stormed. In other words, there is

34:13

a truly desperate civic

34:14

standoff there. I may talk about it

34:17

in more detail in future broadcasts, but for now

34:18

I wanted to say something about Rogozin. In

34:21

the last program—I’ll brag a little—

34:22

in the previous episode I showed you this

34:24

video of Putin sighing

34:25

and worrying about how

34:29

everything had been stolen at the

34:30

Vostochny Cosmodrome. A hundred times, he said, everything had to be transparent,

34:33

you must work transparently,

34:34

the funding is transparent, huge sums are being allocated,

34:36

the project practically has

34:38

national significance—yet no, they steal

34:42

hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions.

34:44

There is still no order there; they still haven't

34:48

managed to put things properly in order.

34:51

I showed that, and then we thought: listen,

34:54

the man really has the nerve

34:56

to say that he was demanding

34:59

transparency. So let's try

35:02

to quickly, maybe within

35:04

a week, find something interesting and

35:06

tell the public what Putin

35:08

is being told about this so-called transparency. But

35:09

it's obviously nonsense, because corruption at

35:12

the top level is rampant, and we simply took a list of

35:15

the leadership of Roscosmos, the leadership

35:18

of Vostochny, and thought: now we'll

35:20

check them against the databases, take a look, and then

35:22

sort of let the machine help us with Rogozin

35:24

and just have a look. It seemed like—well, what is there

35:26

to look at? He's been checked a hundred times, a hundred times

35:28

people wrote about his apartments.

35:30

We won't find anything on Rogozin. The thing is,

35:32

he used to publish his asset declarations

35:35

on the government website, but now on the

35:37

government side no one publishes declarations

35:39

anymore, and no one looks at what

35:40

he has hidden who-knows-where

35:41

on the Roscosmos website. So we did a simple

35:44

thing: we went onto the Roscosmos website,

35:46

looked at it, and were honestly stunned by

35:48

his official salary: 23

35:52

million rubles a year (about 230,000 euros / 250,000 US dollars), one and a half times more

35:54

than ours—2 million rubles a month instead of thousands

35:57

of rubles a day. The guy is an employee

36:01

of a state corporation. So we started

36:03

looking further into his declaration and simply

36:06

found things for ourselves that we decided to

36:08

show you—and Putin, naturally,

36:10

who knows all of this already—but just to rub

36:12

his face in it once again: don't tell us

36:15

anything about transparency when

36:16

right next to you everything is happening openly.

36:19

Our investigation

36:20

consisted of the following: we

36:22

took the declaration, and then simply

36:25

looked at how this dacha (country house) is laid out and

36:27

showed you an aerial flyover of it. Let's watch

36:30

the 13-minute video posted on Mail.ru—on the

36:32

main Alexei Navalny channel. One

36:34

moment, I'll show you. We are in the north of Moscow,

36:36

just beyond the MKAD (Moscow Ring Road), in the Khimki area, and here is

36:39

Rogozin's brand-new country house, almost 800 square meters

36:42

in size. It stands on a pleasant wooded

36:45

plot of 25 sotkas (0.25 hectares / 2,500 square meters), which we also see in

36:48

Dmitry Olegovich's latest declaration.

36:50

Rogozin expanded his holdings by exactly

36:53

two times, and now it is a plot of

36:55

half a hectare, and as you can see, work is boiling away here

36:57

full steam.

36:58

Just like at the Vostochny Cosmodrome, we notice

37:01

a path

37:02

that at first seems to lead nowhere.

37:04

Let's look closer, and we can clearly see

37:08

a gate to the neighboring plot, and quite a substantial house there

37:10

—larger even than Rogozin's: 808

37:14

square meters. The answer to this question

37:15

can usually be found in extracts from

37:17

Rosreestr (Russia’s state real estate registry)

37:18

but not this time, because according to

37:21

the official documents, all of this is owned by

37:24

a private individual. The neighboring 800-square-meter

37:27

house was, in 2017,

37:29

purchased by Rogozin’s aide from

37:31

the government, Valentin Vasilkov

37:33

Semyonovich. Rogozin’s plot—half a hectare (5,000 square meters)

37:36

of land and an 800-square-meter house—is worth 200

37:39

million rubles. The plot belonging to Rogozin’s elderly father-in-law

37:41

and Rogozin’s—we estimate at 150 million rubles. 35,700 are watching

37:47

live right now, and just as I was

37:48

speaking, Igor Drozdov—37—was correcting me

37:52

already. Igor Drozdov asks: what do you

37:54

think about the fact that they’ve allowed

37:55

drones to be shot down with military weapons?

37:57

Indeed, today really was such a

38:00

productive day for our State Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament). They

38:03

passed, in the third reading, a law under which

38:05

they allowed basically everyone there to

38:07

—the National Guard, the police, well, just about everyone—

38:12

to shoot down drones. Why? Well,

38:14

for exactly that reason. They’re not concerned about

38:17

any other use of drones. There’s only one thing

38:19

that bothers them, one thing that infuriates them: all these

38:22

drones, in their minds, are associated exclusively with

38:25

the activities of the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) and other organizations

38:27

that simply fly these drones around and

38:29

show people the dachas (country houses).

38:31

Well, that’s exactly the point.

38:35

You see, we thought, let’s

38:38

see how quickly we can find

38:42

some obvious corruption at the highest

38:44

level, connected with the space sector, and we didn’t even

38:46

need to search for anything. I mean, it’s just

38:49

there in plain sight: he registers a 150-million-ruble house,

38:53

an 800-square-meter property worth 150 million

38:55

rubles, in the name of his father-in-law or grandfather or whoever.

38:58

He bought one car for 12

39:02

million rubles, a second car for 8

39:04

million rubles—20 million rubles

39:06

spent on cars in a single year.

39:07

He’s the head of a state corporation, but how

39:12

does this even work for them? What

39:13

especially got to me, by the way, while we were preparing this

39:15

and digging through everything, was this situation. We, we

39:21

naturally wanted to compare his salary.

39:23

When we saw 23 million rubles there for

39:25

a deputy, 20 million rubles—is that a lot

39:26

or a little? It’s useful to look at NASA’s website; there

39:29

on many of their pages it’s written

39:31

about transparency, and all the figures are there.

39:32

We can see that the head of NASA earns

39:35

one and a half times less than Rogozin. Then

39:37

we start googling how much

39:39

an engineer at NASA earns, and how much an engineer at

39:41

a Roscosmos enterprise earns, and the engineer

39:43

here earns several times less.

39:45

Meanwhile, the bosses here earn

39:47

several times more than in America,

39:49

while the engineer here earns several times

39:51

less. Does it still surprise you, then, why

39:55

Russia, for example in the number of

39:57

launches, has already fallen behind not only the United States, but also

40:00

the European Union, and even China has left us

40:03

far, far behind? Because, well,

40:06

all the drive,

40:08

all the ambition, the entire intellectual

40:13

resource of these people—where did it go? That’s right,

40:16

it went into securing their own

40:18

schemes—one relative here, another relative there,

40:20

this got re-registered here, that got shifted there.

40:23

As we say in the video: classified, removed from the registries,

40:25

transferred here, siphoned off there, and boom—everyone’s

40:28

rich, everyone has some kind of Mercedes, and it all seems

40:31

to be legal. And Putin goes around

40:33

ranting about some kind of

40:34

transparency, some kind of—well,

40:37

we would very much like

40:39

Putin—though of course he himself won’t say anything,

40:41

he’s forbidden from speaking about it, from mentioning us—

40:43

but maybe Peskov can always tell us:

40:45

what do you have to say about transparency? Just

40:46

explain to us: where

40:50

did the money for all this come from?

40:52

What’s especially outrageous, of course, is that all this

40:57

is happening with Dmitry Rogozin. The most

41:00

glorious of his actions, of course, in

41:02

recent times is this legendary

41:04

tweet.

41:05

Let’s take a look at it. Guys,

41:08

“I would trade, without a second’s hesitation,

41:11

all my thoughts, all my

41:12

positions, for the chance to be in the same trench

41:15

with the defenders of Sloviansk.” Do you understand what a

41:20

spectacle of hypocrisy this is? These guys, damn it,

41:23

set themselves official salaries of 20

41:26

million rubles and sit there typing, pretending they’d give it all up

41:30

and go straight to the trenches.

41:32

“An automatic rifle here, a mess tin nearby—or better yet,

41:36

not even a mess tin, better an upturned helmet,

41:38

with some buckwheat porridge in it, and I’d pull a spoon

41:42

out of my boot, eat, and then go off

41:45

to shoot at Ukrainians”—that’s what he’d supposedly give everything for.

41:47

But in reality, these people really are

41:51

just going mad from excess, spoiled by luxury, and

41:54

it’s our duty to fight them however

41:57

we can. There are a lot of questions about what

42:00

I think about how great it is that they launched

42:02

the MCD—the Moscow Central Diameters

42:05

commuter rail lines. I wasn’t following it

42:07

very closely today, but I know that

42:10

they effectively launched these suburban trains. The topic

42:13

is pretty close to me because

42:14

from age 16 to my early twenties, every

42:19

single day I rode the commuter train from

42:21

Golitsyno to Belorussky Station

42:23

and I’ve hated all those trains ever since

42:25

because I spent so much time on them.

42:27

And I just saw that today

42:29

Putin came to Belorussky Station

42:31

specifically

42:32

to open and launch these trains, and it

42:34

apparently caused some kind of collapse up and down the line.

42:36

People were stuck in those trains for hours,

42:39

and at the same time the trains arrived shortened, all

42:42

packed to the brim, with people cramming into the cars. It was this kind of

42:46

small-scale but very real breakdown.

42:48

A transportation disaster, fortunately without

42:52

any casualties. The idiots responsible for it

42:55

were people who decided to use it for publicity and

42:57

shoot some kind of reports, and they blocked off

42:59

all the railway tracks there.

43:00

Besides, it seems pretty obvious to me that

43:02

they simply miscalculated everything there.

43:04

And the trains started running more slowly.

43:06

These commuter trains are operating oddly somehow, they

43:08

have been shortened. I’m not going to

43:09

go into detail right now because I haven’t

43:11

looked into it fully, though I’ll try to. But

43:13

the fact is that today the entire internet

43:15

and Twitter were flooded with photos

43:18

and videos of people packed in like sardines

43:20

trying to escape from these shortened

43:23

cars.

43:24

They were forcing open the doors of these commuter trains and

43:26

jumping out to freedom because they were sick of

43:28

standing there for hours and hours because

43:30

Putin was at Belorussky Station in Moscow.

43:34

That kind of thing. Natalia asks me, “Alexei,”

43:36

“do you know any details about the ties between

43:38

Abyzov, Svyaz Bank, and the withdrawal of

43:40

800 million rubles (about $12.5 million)? I only know

43:42

that an investigation was published by

43:45

the journalistic organization OCCRP.

43:47

You can easily find it online. I think

43:50

they did it jointly with *Novaya Gazeta*.

43:51

There’s quite a long article there about how

43:53

Mikhail Abyzov, who, by the way, was also

43:56

in the housing and utilities business—I already told you

43:58

about Penza and Vekselberg—the same kind of

44:00

thing. This was in Novosibirsk Region.

44:02

Well, now he’s already in jail, so he’s not

44:04

doing it anymore. But an investigation about Abyzov

44:07

came out while he was still a minister, and it’s

44:10

no secret to anyone that we consider him

44:11

a crook and a villain. I have no doubt that everything

44:15

written in that article is true. On my

44:18

paper cup it says, “Watch your back.”

44:21

For those words, “Watch your back,” a man

44:25

named Yevgeny Yurzinnov has already been

44:27

held for several days

44:30

behind bars, in jail, because

44:32

he wrote those words: “Watch your back.”

44:35

Judge Krivoruchko—the very judge to whom I myself would gladly

44:37

say, “Watch your back,”

44:38

because this is Judge Krivoruchko, and he has

44:41

tried me more than once. A more disgusting,

44:45

lying, vile swindler, who isn’t even

44:48

really a judge but a parody of one, is hard

44:51

to imagine. He’s a kind of special judge

44:53

at the Tverskoy District Court (in Moscow).

44:54

He’ll rubber-stamp any nonsense there.

44:58

It was this very Judge Krivoruchko who handed down four years

45:02

in prison to Ustinov—you

45:04

remember him, the one who was later released.

45:07

They said, “Good Lord, of course he was

45:09

jailed by mistake, the whole thing was completely wrong.”

45:12

They didn’t acquit him, but they gave him a one-year

45:14

suspended sentence. But the fact is that

45:16

everyone acknowledged that Judge Krivoruchko had issued

45:19

an insane,

45:20

absolutely unlawful decision. And when

45:22

he issued that unlawful ruling,

45:25

many people, including Yevgeny Yurzinnov,

45:27

wrote unflattering things

45:29

on Twitter and elsewhere about this judge,

45:32

Krivoruchko. And, broadly speaking, I can

45:33

sign my name under those words: Judge

45:36

Krivoruchko is simply a scoundrel. He himself

45:37

should be put in prison; he should be driven

45:39

the hell out. But against

45:42

Yurzinnov they opened a case for making a threat

45:44

to kill. For example, if I say

45:47

that Judge

45:49

Krivoruchko should be sent to the glue factory,

45:51

is that a death threat? I mean,

45:54

the authorities were stung at first, bitterly

45:58

and painfully, because they were reproached for having

46:01

handed down absolutely unlawful

46:03

verdicts. Everyone was outraged by it. But then

46:05

they decided to take revenge on some people and

46:07

literally started running through

46:08

comments and jailing those who wrote

46:10

something. His wife is now recording

46:12

a very sorrowful appeal

46:14

to tell you that he was beaten in the pretrial detention center (SIZO).

46:16

All right, two seconds, let’s take a look at the clip.

46:19

My name is Karina Amirzanova.

46:21

Alexandrovna.

46:21

I am the wife of the accused, Yevgeny Arzu-

46:28

nov, who was detained on November 12,

46:31

2019. He was detained in my

46:35

presence, in a hotel room. We were there

46:39

not by accident: on the 13th, on November 13,

46:44

we were supposed to fly out of

46:49

Vnukovo Airport for a trip to Italy.

46:54

The investigators claim that we wanted

46:57

to flee the country. There was nowhere for us to flee to.

47:01

I have the impression that he

47:04

was beaten there, and that’s why all this time it feels

47:08

as if they’ve been hiding him from us. And

47:12

he’s not the only one—there are two others, Sergey Polovets

47:15

and Alexei Meresov. These are people who,

47:17

when Krivoruchko handed down

47:19

an unlawful ruling—which has already been recognized as such—

47:22

they wrote to him online,

47:25

something like, “I hope you

47:27

drop dead, you bastard.” Any normal

47:29

person said those completely

47:30

justified words about

47:32

that lawless thug of a judge,

47:34

Krivoruchko. They’ve now been jailed, and they are being tried.

47:37

Krivoruchko himself is not on trial—Krivoruchko

47:39

continues to receive a salary of about

47:41

500,000 rubles a month (about $7,800),

47:43

rides around in an official car, and in his

47:45

black robe

47:46

and little glasses keeps on handing down

47:48

unlawful sentences. People are being tried

47:50

for what they wrote on the internet. And separately, you understand,

47:53

there’s clearly a whole gang of idlers

47:56

whose job is to run through

47:59

comments and read what exactly

48:02

people wrote about Judge Krivoruchko, and then

48:04

open criminal cases over it. That’s right.

48:05

There is, of course, a criminal statute covering threats

48:07

of murder. And if it were actually being applied

48:10

to protect me, then all of Prigozhin’s people

48:13

would have to be thrown in jail, because

48:14

comments like “watch your back”

48:16

or “death is coming for you” — I get a hundred

48:18

thousand of those a day, and no one

48:21

in the Interior Ministry cares.

48:22

But when it comes to Judge Krivoruchko,

48:24

they run around opening all these criminal cases.

48:27

Then they’ll go on about how

48:31

their clearance rate has improved. So yes,

48:33

that offense certainly does exist. Fine.

48:35

Even if Judge Krivoruchko is trying

48:39

a gangster or a criminal, and he fears that

48:41

someone might crack him over the head with a stick, he files

48:44

a complaint saying he received death threats.

48:47

But then the police should go out and find

48:49

this Ryzhy, or Plovets, or Veresov,

48:51

and see that the guy was just flying with his wife

48:54

to Italy on vacation.

48:55

They come up to him and ask,

48:56

“Excuse me, why exactly did you write this?”

48:59

“Do you want to kill Judge Krivoruchko?” Well,

49:00

he says, “No, no, come on, I wrote it

49:02

because I think Vova is a scumbag, you know,”

49:04

you know.

49:04

“Drop dead,” “I’ll kill you” — that’s the sort of thing

49:07

people say to each other

49:09

all the time. In that sense, the offense of

49:13

making a death threat should include

49:16

some actual reality to the threat. When people

49:18

write something online, that doesn’t

49:19

necessarily mean anything. But here they immediately

49:22

throw people into pretrial detention (SIZO, a Russian remand prison) because the state

49:25

the state really wants to lock up

49:29

someone it is very fond of — Judge Krivoruchko,

49:32

who, in turn, is ready to

49:34

put absolutely anyone away for any

49:36

nonexistent crime,

49:38

shoot them, crush them,

49:40

and burn them. In other words, he does exactly the same thing

49:42

only

49:44

as gangsters do, except

49:46

in a judge’s robe. So I just want

49:48

to express my support for all three of these people,

49:50

who are completely innocent and are sitting in jail

49:53

not only despite being innocent, but also because of

49:56

a complete bastard and thug,

49:59

which is what Judge Krivoruchko is. So, Vitaliy

50:02

WSOF asks me: “Alexei, will there be

50:04

something today about ‘snatch-and-grab’? That really

50:06

was hilarious — whether it was about oil or processors.”

50:08

You wrote that, and I think we should have

50:10

shown that video where Putin says

50:12

something like, well, we’ll just

50:14

snatch-and-grab, steal American

50:17

technologies. By the way, that perfectly

50:19

captured something about him — that smug,

50:21

self-satisfied attitude, like the Americans will create the technology, and then

50:23

we’ll just snatch it. And in that whole

50:26

‘snatch-and-grab,’ ‘swipe it,’ ‘make off with it’ business, you can clearly see

50:30

his very essence. He lights up at the thought

50:34

that something can be pinched, swiped,

50:38

stolen. But it never even occurs to him

50:41

to say, “You know, we also have

50:44

science, we also have technology, and we don’t

50:47

necessarily have to steal anything. We

50:49

can invent something ourselves, create something.” But no —

50:50

it’s all ‘snatch-and-grab,’ we’ll just haul it away.”

50:53

And there are people just like that sitting in the hall, you know, at

50:56

that same “Russia Calling!” forum,

50:58

and it’s kind of awkward — everyone understands what nonsense this is,

51:00

but those bankers are such cowards

51:03

that they giggle, “Ha-ha-ha, snatch-and-grab, what a

51:04

great line.” Right, another question — something

51:11

about Yakutia (Sakha Republic). Is it true that in Yakutia, on November 21,

51:14

all schoolchildren will be required

51:15

to perform

51:16

the national anthem in order to foster

51:18

social responsibility, writes

51:21

Presidentushka to me. Well, this little president

51:23

of Yakutia came up with this nonsense. It’s like

51:25

that saying about what a cat does when it has

51:28

nothing better to do. These people are busy with

51:31

absolute crap. They’re sitting there in Yakutia —

51:33

good Lord, there are so many problems in Yakutia,

51:36

a huge number of real problems —

51:40

and this bunch of idiots calling themselves

51:43

United Russia, the party in power,

51:45

sit around thinking up things like,

51:48

“Hey, let’s make the children sing the anthem before

51:52

every lesson.”

51:53

That’ll teach them social

51:54

responsibility. Even in the Soviet Union

51:56

that didn’t exist. I was a child

51:59

of the Soviet Union, and even then there was nothing like that.

52:01

There was plenty of idiocy there, and yes, we sang

52:04

all sorts of Pioneer songs and had all kinds of

52:08

events, and they raised the flag,

52:11

and there were ceremonial assemblies — all of that existed, but

52:13

not every day. But in Yakutia, apparently,

52:16

the current bosses think

52:18

it should be every single day. Let the kids do it.

52:20

Let all the children in

52:22

Yakutia understand from an early age

52:26

that the people running our country are idiots, and

52:29

that will be enough — no one will need

52:30

to prove or explain anything to them. They’ll just, after the first time,

52:33

and painfully, hear: “Kids, let’s

52:35

stand up, now we’re going to sing the Russian anthem.” They’ll

52:37

sing it, and the next day she’ll say,

52:39

“Kids, stand up. Lenochka, Valechka, let’s sing

52:43

the Russian anthem.”

52:43

And so on every day. And by the 10th, the 20th,

52:47

the 100th day, the children will simply — well, first of all, they’ll

52:50

hate that anthem

52:51

and hate this government.

52:53

Then they’ll come to rallies with us.

52:55

That’s how, as they wrote there, church protests

52:57

and all those protests grow out of this sort of thing.

53:00

That’s exactly how church protests arise, and sooner or later,

53:02

anyway, the last thing I want

53:05

to end this program with: I love, absolutely love,

53:09

watching broadcasts from the current Moscow City Duma,

53:11

because, unlike the empty show it used to be,

53:14

thanks to you and me, we elected

53:17

great deputies — genuinely great deputies — and

53:19

There are 45 people there now.

53:22

You know, out of 45 people they managed to gather 20

53:24

opposition deputies through a lot of

53:27

voting. Well, about three of them kind of

53:30

keep disappearing all the time, but 17 are actually there,

53:34

pretty desperate, hardcore guys.

53:36

And in the Moscow City Duma, well, first of all, at last

53:40

these United Russia members really

53:42

got pushback.

53:43

People openly argue with them, and the sessions

53:45

go on for hours because

53:47

the opposition members are no longer just sitting quietly and not standing up for their rights.

53:49

What's more, we were just talking

53:51

about Judge Krivoruchko, and finally

53:54

— thank God, hallelujah — in the Moscow City Duma there was finally

53:58

a proper assessment of what

54:00

the judicial system actually is. And by the way, because

54:02

of that,

54:02

it also includes justices of the peace, and before them

54:05

the chair of the Moscow City Court reports back —

54:06

Yegorova.

54:07

The main gangster of the entire judicial system.

54:10

Deputy Oleg Sheremetyev from

54:13

the Communist Party (KPRF) — let's listen to what he said

54:16

about the Moscow case and the judicial system.

54:19

They're just showing him, but you can

54:21

imagine the looks on

54:22

the United Russia members' faces. First of all, of course,

54:26

absolutely everyone who was detained and

54:29

convicted this summer must not simply

54:34

be released — they must be recognized

54:37

as victims of political repression, with

54:40

appropriate compensation paid to them,

54:42

benefits provided, and so on. But that's not

54:44

all. The point is that there are people

54:49

responsible for all of this

54:52

happening and for innocent people ending up in prison.

54:58

First, of course, there are the officials who

55:02

restrict the right to hold

55:04

rallies, meetings, marches, and so on.

55:06

That means employees of the mayor's office and

55:09

the Presidential Administration — their

55:11

involvement in everything that happened over the summer

55:16

must not be overlooked either. In other words,

55:20

these people must not simply be fired;

55:22

there must be an investigation, because

55:24

this was provoked and

55:26

organized. Second — or maybe

55:30

this should even be called the first thing — there is one

55:34

very specific, very big problem

55:37

that has

55:38

a specific name: Olga Alexandrovna

55:41

Yegorova. As long as this person heads

55:44

the Moscow City Court, you can forget about justice

55:49

in Moscow.

55:50

That is why I believe we must make

55:53

every effort to ensure that the leadership of

55:57

the Moscow City Court

55:58

is finally replaced, and I think

56:05

that we too can make

56:10

our contribution to that — and should.

56:13

Here you need to understand who this Olga

56:15

Yegorova is — that same gangster. She is the most

56:18

powerful person in the judicial

56:20

system in Russia, absolutely — far

56:22

more powerful than the chairman of the Supreme

56:24

Court, who is basically just small fry

56:26

compared with this old, vicious witch

56:30

who controls all the judges manually,

56:34

and they are simply slaves — all of them.

56:37

All the judges in Moscow's courts are simply

56:39

Olga Yegorova's slaves. She has built the system perfectly:

56:41

it hands down any kind of

56:44

illegal ruling just like that, at the snap

56:47

of a finger. This whole system of 'telephone justice'

56:49

is organized perfectly.

56:52

That's why everyone is afraid. And these debates

56:54

in the Moscow City Duma before, in previous convocations — well,

56:57

whether it was the opposition or, naturally, the authorities,

56:58

they all just tiptoed around her.

57:01

And now, finally, guys have appeared who

57:04

actually say it. What's more, this was Sheremetyev —

57:06

because it's one thing to say it behind someone's back,

57:08

but she came into the chamber and he said roughly

57:11

the same thing to her right there in the hall, directly.

57:14

Let's take a look. Olga

57:16

Alexandrovna,

57:17

does the concept of judicial honor exist —

57:20

something like an officer's honor, for example?

57:23

And if it does, then why did you and your subordinates

57:26

not resign after everything

57:28

that happened this summer? I have worked my whole

57:32

life honestly, in accordance

57:35

with the law. I believe I can continue working.

57:40

She's worked honestly her whole life, sure.

57:43

Dmitry Rogozin says he earned everything honestly,

57:45

Moscow prosecutor Popov says everything is very honest too,

57:47

but in any case,

57:49

it's great that this has finally started

57:51

to happen. But there in the Moscow City Duma,

57:53

besides all that,

57:54

the United Russia members are genuinely

57:57

in a daze because, well, basically,

58:01

people have finally appeared who

58:04

not only argue with them, but also

58:07

speak back. Today there was an incredibly funny exchange

58:09

between the crazy deputy

58:12

Stepanova-Belkova, whom we did an investigation on,

58:14

who back in the

58:17

1990s literally worked

58:20

for the U.S. State Department, as a staff member

58:22

of the National Democratic Institute's office

58:26

— an organization funded there by the State Department

58:28

and American foundations. She worked for them in the

58:30

1990s; now, of course, she's in United Russia.

58:32

Now she's a super-conservative, and here is what —

58:35

let's watch, it's very funny — how she

58:36

complains that a Communist is threatening her

58:39

and says he'll have her shot. I would like to

58:42

ask you, first of all,

58:45

to reprimand the deputy who just spoke,

58:47

and second, what I would like

58:50

to inform everyone present is that

58:51

literally a few minutes ago, that same

58:54

deputy told me that for all

58:56

of us, if the Communists come to power,

58:57

being shot would be considered a blessing,

59:01

whereas the rope and the gallows...

59:04

This is Lyudmila... This is not relevant to the proceedings.

59:07

I ask everyone to observe the rules of the session.

59:09

Colleagues, please stick to the agenda. But the funniest

59:13

story, unfortunately, was not caught on

59:15

video, but deputy Tarasov, with whom she was

59:17

arguing, described it on Facebook.

59:19

Well, they naturally started

59:22

trading insults, and in her usual manner she

59:24

— that crazy woman Stebenkova — said, "Go on

59:26

United Russia" (the ruling political party in Russia).

59:26

So she stood up and asked them,

59:29

"Why do you include prostitutes

59:33

on your Communist Party lists?"

59:35

Tarasov, completely unfazed,

59:37

said, "Come on, Lyudmila Vasilievna, we never even

59:40

considered putting you on our

59:42

lists." So there are some really funny

59:45

and great things happening there. But United Russia's

59:48

response is quite traditional. They don't like it

59:50

that FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) staff go there

59:52

and work with Moscow City Duma deputies, so

59:55

today I once again went there with

59:58

a larger video crew in order to... well, I don't know,

1:00:00

to discuss a bill, they were doing something,

1:00:02

it was interaction with deputies, which is what they

1:00:04

are supposed to do.

1:00:06

That is the deputies' duty, and our

1:00:08

duty is to work with these deputies.

1:00:10

And we work with them perfectly well. What happened was

1:00:12

that they simply didn't let us in. They said,

1:00:13

you know, you're on some kind of blacklist. One

1:00:15

moment.

1:00:16

Like Sobol

1:00:17

and Shirinov and other people are stuck in the reception area

1:00:20

— they are simply not being let in. What a mess.

1:00:21

A deputy is standing there with them, the one they

1:00:24

came to see. I am standing at the

1:00:27

entrance to the Moscow City Duma

1:00:29

together with Ruslan Shaveddinov

1:00:30

of the Anti-Corruption Foundation and

1:00:32

Moscow City Duma deputy from the

1:00:34

Communist Party, Yelena Shuvalova.

1:00:35

We came to discuss work-related matters, and

1:00:38

a pass had been ordered for Ruslan and me,

1:00:40

but for some reason we were not on the list.

1:00:42

Right now the security staff

1:00:44

are not letting us through and are saying that

1:00:46

we are barred from entering the building. There is no request for

1:00:48

you, none of your names are in the pass

1:00:52

system, so you cannot enter the

1:00:54

Moscow City Duma premises.

1:00:56

Certain individuals have effectively been put under

1:00:59

quarantine, and now they will not be allowed into the Moscow

1:01:01

City Duma, despite the fact that

1:01:03

I have specific work to do with

1:01:06

these people. You know, of course,

1:01:10

they say that when things are very bad, people

1:01:13

cry, but when

1:01:14

things are very, very bad, they start laughing.

1:01:16

And really, this situation has already become

1:01:19

so tragic that it simply

1:01:22

makes you laugh. We are following the development of the

1:01:25

situation. But this is yet another act of cowardice, another fear

1:01:27

on the part of United Russia members, afraid even to let you

1:01:29

step onto the grounds of the Moscow City Duma.

1:01:31

What do they have to hide? Apparently their own

1:01:33

corrupt little schemes. That's how it is.

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Sobol ended up under quarantine. Yes, the situation

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developed in such a way that the

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deputy went to the head of security

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and said, "Have you lost your minds? How can you

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possibly have the right not to let people come to

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see me? I am a deputy."

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She insisted there are no blacklists.

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Blacklists cannot exist under any

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circumstances. Nevertheless, for

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FBK staff, an exception has apparently been made.

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We'll see how the

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situation develops further, but in any case I am very

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happy and want to once again say thank you

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to everyone who voted strategically ("Smart Voting," an opposition-backed tactical voting campaign)

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so that we elected such great deputies

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who are now giving United Russia a hard time

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even while being in the minority.

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Thank you very much to everyone who watched

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the program. See you next Thursday.

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Bye.

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