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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow it is exactly

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8:00 p.m., and I’m not in the studio at all

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but at home. With you is Alexei Navalny

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hosting the program *Russia of the Future*

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— or “some kind of strange fruit,” as

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Vladimir

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Solovyov called me this week.

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Let’s immediately take a look at this

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wonderful man: “Leshenka,”

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“Navalny will sit there in your place,”

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“and instead of proving himself as the best of all

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time and peoples, he shows himself as

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a completely incomprehensible fruit.”

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So Navalny turns out to be some kind of strange

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fruit, and Vladimir Solovyov this

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week was practically tearing himself apart.

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He’s hosting some gigantic five-hour-long

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broadcasts every day, and over there he’s just

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completely losing it. We’ll remember this

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wonderful man again today.

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Well, I mean, you can understand him.

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Just imagine: at this time of year he’s used to

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the delightful

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early spring, and he’s used to spending it

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at home, in his homeland, where he has

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residency, where his children are — at Lake Como.

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Instead, he’s been forced to stay in Moscow.

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You can’t even walk the streets, and on top of that he has to go on

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television and look at the disgusting

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faces of his colleagues. So of course

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Vladimir Solovyov is nervous, and by doing so

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he is, of course, giving us a huge number of

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very pleasant moments. Please send me

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your questions on Twitter with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture.

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I’ll do my best to answer them.

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Today I’ll also try

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to answer questions from people who

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look carefully at the bottom of the screen, you’ll

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opportunity to ask a question I

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won’t be able to dodge — one I’ll definitely

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have to answer. So there are questions like that

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too, and I’ll be answering them.

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Many thanks to everyone who becomes

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a sponsor, and thanks to everyone who clicks the

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link that lets your little

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Dmitry Medvedevs appear on the screen

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and thereby make

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this program possible. As usual, I want

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to start with the topics that everyone

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missed this week. They are very

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important, and

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we absolutely need to talk about them.

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We absolutely must not forget them.

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But the coronavirus has swallowed up everything, so we’re

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discussing only the coronavirus, quarantine,

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and, to a lesser extent, some people are discussing the wedding

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or divorce of Dzhigan — in short, something

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is going on in the family of the rapper Dzhigan.

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To my surprise, he turned out to be

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— I caught a glimpse of some news item —

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a completely Russian guy,

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maybe from Perm, apparently named Vanya Ivanov

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or something like that. Honestly, I always thought

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Dzhigan was, I don’t know, a man of

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some kind of Eastern background. But never mind what’s

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happening with him and what people are discussing.

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What we really should discuss is the development

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of the story involving problems connected with

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Russian officials buying

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the FIFA World Cup. It was great that the

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World Cup was held in Russia.

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We all really enjoyed it. What was absolutely not

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great was that we spent a completely

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colossal, unimaginable amount

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of money on stadiums that could have been

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built for half the price.

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But nevertheless, please, let’s recall

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28 seconds of how, in 2010, everyone

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was celebrating — Shuvalov and all the

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other officials — when Russia

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won the right to host

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the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

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Something like: “Ladies and gentlemen, it will be organized...”

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All that jubilation was, of course, very nice.

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The World Cup itself was great.

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I myself happily took photos in the streets

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when there were crowds of fans. All of that

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was very beautiful. But behind all of it

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there was a very dirty and unsightly

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story that will continue to unfold, and we

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will see more developments. So right now

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it is worth paying attention to the fact that

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the U.S. federal prosecutors have already

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directly — not just through some rumors, you know —

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in April directly accused several

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people, several FIFA officials,

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of receiving bribes from Russia

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and

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from Qatar, because Russia bought

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it — simply paid bribes to all these

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football crooks — and then Qatar did

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exactly the same in the second round, giving all these

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crooks money and thereby buying itself the

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World Cup as well. And here it is very

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appropriate to recall that a few

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months ago, *The Insider* published

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a hacked mailbox —

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mailbox, not kidney; fortunately his kidney is fine —

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belonging to Sergei Kapkov,

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the former deputy to Sobyanin, a man

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quite close to Roman Abramovich,

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who handles various little matters for him there.

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So, Kapkov’s email was hacked.

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and posted detailed instructions there

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there was simply a chart with all

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those FIFA crooks in it, and in that chart

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it was plainly written there—you could see it from the emails

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that all of this was being overseen by Shuvalov

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the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government

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who needed to be paid off and how—this one could

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be handled by Abramovich, while this one had to be

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paid through a Russian state corporation

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1.5 million euros—this one would take

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it directly in a suitcase, and it was all

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written out there, and all of this came to light

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all of this will be discussed, there will be

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charges brought, which is why we need

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to watch this closely, to keep an eye on it

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you see, it seems to me that here

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this idea doesn’t work—"well, okay,

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fine, they bought the championship, and

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somehow gave people a great joy, and we

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walked around here for a while, drank beer with

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the fans"—no, that’s not how it works

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in reality, it works like this: if the

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state is acting systematically

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at a meeting—just imagine, there was a meeting

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with Kapkov, Shuvalov, Putin, Mutko, and they sit there and

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literally draw up a chart of who

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needs to be bribed

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how much money, and through whom—that means

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corruption has reached an extremely systemic

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level. It wasn’t a case of Putin

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calling in Abramovich and saying, "Roman, my friend,

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do us a favor—you’re so rich,

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man, please make it happen somehow

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so that the World Cup is held in

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Russia," and Abramovich would wink and

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say, "I get it, sure—just give me another

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oil field and I’ll take care of everything

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nicely." That would have been disgusting

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corruption, but this wasn’t even corruption

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it was absolutely some kind of—well, it was

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a function of the state. They sat down, listened,

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made decisions, and assigned who gives whom

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bribes. That means that for these people

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it’s not a problem at all—not just to take

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bribes or give bribes, but to discuss how to

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stage-manage it. In other words, corruption is a kind of

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everyday working tool for them, and

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in that sense, it’s already simply

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pointless to appeal to our government

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with some complaint like, "there’s corruption"

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they don’t even laugh at that anymore, because

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no statements about

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corruption make the slightest

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impression on them, because they literally sat there together

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with Putin

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with the FSB people, with his entourage there

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maybe someone like Bastrykin was sitting there—they literally

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sat there discussing how to deliver money to some

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football swindler—1.5

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million euros—not to mention that they

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have at their disposal such an

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amount of cash that they can simply take

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cash in a suitcase, basically, and go hand it over

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therefore, please keep following this

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please. A small and, it seems to me, very

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funny development came out of

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the conflict between Lyubov Sobol and

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Margarita Simonyan—well, "conflict" is not quite the word

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Sobol simply exposed Simonyan. She

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pointed out that the

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RT channel, which receives 20

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billion—20 billion rubles

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from the state budget

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artificially inflates its video views, and Simonyan

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thought and thought and thought, and in the end

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I think RT has as many as three thousand

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four hundred employees, and all 3,400 of

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them

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apparently pooled their

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intellectual potential and came up with a response

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to Sobol—and that response is simply

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hilarious if you watch it

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carefully. Let’s take a look

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put it up on the big screen here, come on

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let’s watch 38 seconds

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and then please just

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notice that when some

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random guy who doesn’t even

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introduce himself or state his position

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is refuting the claim that Margarita

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Simonyan is somehow a great

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porn star because views are being boosted through porn sites

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notice what they show

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on the screen—let’s watch

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there are lots of comments like this, or

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these very strange comments. But jokes aside,

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for a state channel

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receiving billions to inflate views

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through porn sites—you’d have to be

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really something, Margarita, wouldn’t you?

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"Disgusting." Stop, says Sobol

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so let’s check. We open

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the analytics in YouTube itself and look at

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the traffic sources. And it turns out 94

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percent of the traffic to that video came from

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YouTube recommendations, from the same

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algorithm

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nothing special seems to have happened, but

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really, these people—one of the reasons why, actually,

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my jaw just about dropped for a second

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because of this whole situation

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today we’re going to talk in detail

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about Putin’s measures, the ones

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he is taking in order to deal with

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the epidemic and cope with the crisis, and one of

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his heavily publicized "super-measures"—which he

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announced very proudly—was to give 10

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billion rubles to all Russian

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medical workers dealing with the coro-

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navirus across the whole country. But that’s hundreds

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of thousands of people. It’s already completely obvious: 10

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billion rubles. Meanwhile RT

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gets 20 billion rubles—twice

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as much as all the medical workers—and this bunch of

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idiots

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while trying to refute Sobol’s video about how they

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inflate views through porn traffic

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actually show and open up the traffic sources

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We’re watching the video, looking at the screenshot—this screenshot here.

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Now let’s zoom in on the screenshot from the video.

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Closer, enlarged—what do we see? Well, there it is.

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But they really were there, even if only for half a second.

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They showed the real traffic sources for

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their video, and we can see all of it—the very

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XXX, those very porn sites, I mean

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the guys just went ahead and confirmed it

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all in their own so-called rebuttal

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video. My God. Of course, we can

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rejoice all we want and call them

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idiots—yes, we will call them

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idiots, crooks, complete morons, and

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the most broken people on earth,

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examples of idiocy, and so on. Those are all

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absolutely correct, appropriate, and

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fitting epithets. But 20 billion rubles

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—my friends, 20 billion rubles of our money

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that didn’t go to doctors, didn’t go to

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teachers, for example, or to anyone else,

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that didn’t go to you as even a small subsidy for

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housing and utilities—they gave it to this lady, who is, well,

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just unbelievably stupid. On Wikipedia, in the article on

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stupidity, there should be his photo and hers

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and everyone else’s—everyone who works with her.

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This is something we absolutely need to keep

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an eye on, and please, let’s not let

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her off the hook, because they really are pretending

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that nothing is happening. Simonyan

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has in no way

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commented on either our

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investigation into how she stole a huge amount of

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money for the film *Crimean Bridge*,

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or the previous investigation, *Parasites*.

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She hasn’t properly commented on any of it. They’re pretending

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there’s nothing there, and hoping that

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all of this will somehow dissipate on its own,

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blow over somewhere. We must not let them off the hook.

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Especially looking at their simply

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outrageous, ultra-mega stupidity. Let me

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take one of the questions that

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was sent to me by a sponsor of our channel.

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That doesn’t mean I won’t take

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regular questions too, so send them with

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the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture. Personnel Twins

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asks me: “Alexei, don’t you get the feeling

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that Putin’s inaction and weakness in

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the conditions of the epidemic and crisis will become

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the beginning of the end for him personally?” Dear

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Personnel Twin, and dear everyone else,

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it could be. It all depends on us. That’s the thing.

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I mean, we can see it.

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Today we’ll discuss in detail that they are doing nothing,

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they don’t want to do anything.

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More than that, Putin is simply disappearing,

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vanishing. They are absolutely incompetent and

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they are behaving

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just, simply, strangely—really

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strangely and absurdly. But it all

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depends on us, because in reality

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what is actually happening is seen by 10

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million people, maybe 15 million people.

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The rest pay much more attention

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to television—they’re constantly being fed

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lies endlessly. But those 10

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million people we have actually

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—probably many more by now—who

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understand what’s going on, we simply

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have to keep pushing this every day,

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telling people about it. Then it

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will become the beginning of his end. If we simply

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take, I don’t know, a more detached

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or contemplative position, then it won’t.

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Then in a few months Putin will, you know,

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—but I hope that, with some losses,

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we’ll get out of this—and they’ll still be

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celebrating a Victory Parade, the great victory,

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of the great Putin over the coronavirus and

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the Pechenegs and the Polovtsians (historic nomadic tribes often invoked in Russian rhetoric), I mean,

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they distort everything,

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they simply twist absolutely everything.

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They’ll all be saying that

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Russia handled the coronavirus better than any country in the world,

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and they’ll simply be saying that on

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television every single day, and

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some grandmothers will then

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repeat it. So our task is simply

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to expose all of this; otherwise it doesn’t

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work. Toni Moore asks me:

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“Tell me, did I understand correctly that the millions

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spent on disinfecting the streets

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are just the traditional seasonal relaying of

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sidewalk tiles?” Well, yes, it’s funny—there is a joke

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about how

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Sobyanin (the mayor of Moscow) will have to replace all the infected

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current paving tiles with new ones.

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Dear Tanya, we’ll discuss that a little

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later, but it really is

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a very big topic.

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But before we move on to coronavirus

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topics, I still wanted to

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touch on another issue that, it seems to me,

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is also very important and that no one

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noticed, unfortunately—again because of the coronavirus.

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Arkady Novikov,

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the restaurateur, was on the air on Echo of Moscow, and there

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he was talking about how hard things are right now

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for businesses connected with

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restaurants. He was saying genuinely sensible

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things about it, saying

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the right things.

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Arkady Novikov, our restaurateur—I have

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a small personal story involving

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Arkady Novikov’s restaurants. It’s not directly connected to him,

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except that he was once

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a member of the Supreme Council of United Russia (the ruling political party).

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So I personally, just as a citizen, kind of

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boycotted his restaurants.

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I simply didn’t go to them. If

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some friends invited me, I would say, well, I can’t

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go to that restaurant because the money will go

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to a United Russia member. At one point, I think

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back in 2012,

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I said: let’s stop

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using businesses owned by United Russia members, and I

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tried to go as little as possible to places

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that belonged to all those

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United Russia people. But Novikov, I believe, left it.

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Among those in Russia, it definitely came out.

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From the Supreme Council of United Russia (the main pro-Kremlin political party), and I...

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Let me clarify this—*cough*—please note:

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It's awful. It's not as if I'm constantly going to

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restaurants, but at least I didn't start

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forbidding myself from taking communion or going into various

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establishments.

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Well, I always say this simply because

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in principle, Novikov is a normal businessman.

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But there is a very serious complaint against him.

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We published

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an investigation into how he was effectively

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a middleman between Udodov, a businessman,

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and a number of businessmen who

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were involved in tax schemes, and Mishustin,

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the current prime minister in particular.

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He bought apartments in order to quietly

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take them from Udodov and pass them on to Mishustin, but

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in effect he legalized them, laundered them—and then

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he was asked about this on Echo of Moscow (a Russian radio station).

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It was quite interesting to listen to.

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Alexei Navalny's investigation, where he

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claimed that, through you,

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apartments that were given away were being laundered

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to Mishustin's children. Could you respond

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to that? Well, let's put it this way:

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in principle, this isn't the best time, but I

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will answer you anyway. First of all, Alexei

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manipulates words very elegantly.

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First of all, I didn't give them away—I sold them.

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And I can even explain why I sold them.

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Specifically at market price, and there are

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all the figures—he can check them. As for

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that, I can even say that

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I even made a little bit of money on it.

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Not much—if it had been a lot, he would have killed me.

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So everything there was perfectly normal, very

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proper, and there was nothing criminal

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about it. I bought the apartments for my

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children, and then naturally my children

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didn't want to live together because

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my daughter was growing up, my son was younger, and

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I simply needed to do that, and then I

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gave them over—there is nothing

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criminal in that whatsoever. Again, they

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were bought at market price and

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sold at market price, and everything there

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is documented—those figures all exist, and

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Alexei is in fact very wrongly

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manipulating—and elegantly manipulating—

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the numbers. That's not good. I thought I heard in

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your answer—just in the intonation, I don't know—

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maybe even some sympathy

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toward Alexei Navalny. More generally,

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regardless of this investigation, how do you

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feel about what he does and about his

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public role? Fine, positively—good for him, basically.

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Talking about things that

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exist, and if something illegal is there,

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then he's right to do it. I view it normally, positively.

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A full 70,000 people are watching us

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live right now. You have just seen

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the rather charming restaurateur

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Arkady Novikov, who thanked

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me for the investigation. Well, I take it

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as praise for our entire foundation. Many

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thanks, Arkady. But as you rightly

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said, what we do is show

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who has what illegally, and this is not some

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private matter. It's not that I just want

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to chat with Arkady Novikov and want

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70,000 people to

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watch it. No, we're talking about

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the country's prime minister,

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the second most powerful person. If tomorrow Putin

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disappears again to who-knows-where, then quite

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possibly Mishustin would become president.

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And when it comes to a person who

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gave, or sold, or transferred entire

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huge apartments worth tens

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of millions of rubles to his children, I want

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to say: dear Arkady, you say

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that I'm manipulating things, but in fact you

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say you made a little money on these apartments.

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No, I am not manipulating anything. We

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stated clearly that there is an unexplained

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transaction, which consists in the fact that

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Arkady Novikov

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buys apartments—we don't know for how much.

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In our investigation, we did not

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say anything about that. If you, dear Arkady,

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publish the documents showing how much you bought them for

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and how much you sold them for

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to Mishustin, having made a little profit, that would be

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wonderful. But for now, what we see is this:

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Arkady buys two apartments, as he

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says, for his daughter and son.

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Well, these are very expensive apartments in

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the city center, presumably.

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It looks strange if you bought two

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apartments and then, four months later, simply

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changed your mind and immediately sold them. Moreover, one of

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those apartments you sold to Mishustin's son on

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the very next day

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after he turned 18, so that the apartment

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would not appear in Mishustin's asset declaration.

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What's more, when we published

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this investigation, it was also about the fact that

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he bought them from Udodov, and we

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described him simply as a businessman close to

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Mishustin. But now it turns out

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—and Udodov himself has now said this—that he is

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Mishustin's relative by marriage. Dear Arkady,

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this looks insanely strange. That is, take

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Mishustin—back then he was not yet

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prime minister, but head of the tax service.

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For some reason, apartments are being sold from

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one side to—good Lord—to whom?

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To a father-in-law, to another in-law—anyway, between

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Udodov and Mishustin's relatives,

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who simply see each other once a

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week and happily chat at family

20:39

celebrations, the apartments pass through Arkady

20:43

Novikov.

20:43

Well, of course, to me it is fairly obvious that this is

20:46

simply the legalization of these apartments, because

20:48

Udodov is involved in corruption and

20:51

tax schemes—that is, Mishustin...

20:53

The tax service is engaged in hellish corruption,

20:55

in fraudulent schemes, and that way they simply

20:58

kick money back to Mishustin, but not directly.

21:01

You can’t really pass kickbacks directly — it’s complicated — but

21:04

apartments are simply bought, and for that

21:06

Arkady Novikov may be used.

21:08

Dear Arkady, you were asked to do it, apparently.

21:10

Because someone clearly gave you — well, no, bought you —

21:12

an apartment. Take a closer look, all the more so.

21:13

Let’s consider a question from Alexander.

21:17

Timokhov, who is also a sponsor.

21:20

He clicked the “Sponsor” button

21:21

to sponsor our channel. In your opinion,

21:23

what actions should

21:25

the president — not necessarily the current one, just in general — take

21:27

for the country to get off the oil-and-gas

21:30

needle? Alexander, and everyone else: no

21:32

special actions are needed.

21:35

You just have to stop wanting to sit on that

21:39

needle. Right now, I think, 84

21:42

percent of the economy is controlled by

21:44

the state. And the state — Putin

21:47

and his government — wants

21:50

to deal only with oil and gas, and

21:52

so just look: basically, here

21:54

today they were discussing this oil-and-gas

21:57

oil deal with OPEC — that’s the country’s main

22:00

foreign policy issue. They do nothing

22:04

else, because oil

22:05

is easy money. The government’s task is

22:08

to lower taxes on small business, to lower

22:11

payroll taxes, really, for business in general,

22:12

to fight monopolies so that, well, so that

22:15

everything can grow. And then everything

22:17

will develop — from factories

22:19

to cafés with hipsters and paper

22:22

cups. People need to be allowed

22:24

to live normally, instead of crushing everyone and

22:26

supporting oilmen and oligarchs because

22:29

they send you a suitcase full of

22:30

money. Then everything will develop. In that sense,

22:33

there’s no need to reinvent

22:35

the wheel. This is how it works in

22:37

Germany, this is how it works in the U.S.,

22:39

in Hong Kong, in Taiwan, in China,

22:41

where does it happen? Everywhere. So in

22:43

reality, we just need to stop

22:45

twisting things here, and then everything will

22:48

develop perfectly normally. And before

22:51

the coronavirus, the topic that struck

22:56

not only me but, it seems to me, a large

22:59

number of people across Russia, because

23:02

I was watching these videos from

23:07

different airports in different countries, and honestly,

23:09

you know, there’s this very worn-out

23:12

phrase, “it hurts for the country” (a common Russian patriotic expression), and

23:14

every crook in our country actually

23:17

uses the image of Vereshchagin (a character from the Soviet film *White Sun of the Desert*) and writes

23:20

that they “hurt for the country,” but in fact

23:22

I think quite a lot

23:25

of us felt that way when

23:28

all week we were flooded with

23:32

tearful videos and messages from friends

23:35

and acquaintances about how Russia had simply

23:37

abandoned them abroad,

23:40

somewhere in other countries, and we

23:42

just weren’t bringing them home, and that is absolutely

23:44

outrageous. But on the other hand, I kind of

23:46

sat down, dug into it a bit, thought it through myself,

23:48

and I saw messages like, well,

23:54

a lot of people are annoyed: what are we

23:56

even talking about here? Some idiots

23:58

went off to Thailand during an epidemic, and

24:02

now they want us, with our own money,

24:05

when things are already bad here, when we’re all out of work

24:07

and without salaries — we’re supposed

24:09

to pull them out of Thailand, out of America,

24:11

from wherever — some emergency evacuation from

24:14

the Seychelles is supposed to happen, and we have to

24:17

bring them home. And I thought: what’s the analogy

24:19

in my head, what similar

24:21

annoyance do I feel every spring

24:24

when they show those guys on

24:26

the Gulf of Finland, those fishermen who, like

24:28

maniacs, go out to catch smelt

24:31

or whatever, and the ice floe always breaks off under them,

24:33

they drift away on it, and the country

24:36

has to spend huge human resources

24:38

and huge amounts of money

24:40

to pick them up with EMERCOM helicopters. The guys know

24:43

all this. They know the ice will break off,

24:45

that they’ll drift away, and they go anyway

24:47

because they know that for them

24:48

an EMERCOM helicopter will come flying.

24:50

So maybe they should be asked about that.

24:52

Let’s spend 26 seconds remembering these

24:55

guys — and this footage: 33

24:59

people found themselves this morning

25:00

stranded on an ice floe in the Gulf of Finland.

25:02

It all happened near the village of Privetninskoye.

25:04

That’s in the Vyborg district of the region. At half past

25:06

eleven, the fishermen gave up hope of

25:07

getting out on their own and called

25:09

EMERCOM. By that point, the people were already

25:12

separated from the shore by half a kilometer of open water.

25:13

Rescuers moved in to help and

25:15

in just 45 minutes transported

25:18

everyone back to shore. This time there were no

25:20

casualties, but the rescuers’ forecast is grim:

25:22

the season popular with fishermen is beginning —

25:24

fishing on the last ice.

25:27

What I want to say is this: I thought about it myself

25:30

and decided that it was important

25:33

to speak out. It’s wrong to attack these

25:37

guys who got stuck in

25:39

airports around the world. They really didn’t do

25:42

anything wrong. In fact, a country of

25:44

150 million people means that

25:47

when you go abroad anywhere, you

25:49

constantly say, walking down the street with your wife,

25:51

“Damn, it’s all Russians here,”

25:52

“nothing but Russians” — because there are Russians everywhere.

25:54

It’s a big country: Russians everywhere, and everywhere

25:57

Chinese too. Out of 150 million people,

26:00

if 15 percent of them travel abroad regularly,

26:02

that means that in any given

26:04

country, at the same time, there are

26:06

several hundred thousand, or at least a hundred

26:07

thousands of Russians, and that means that at any

26:11

time—during an epidemic, a war, or I don't know,

26:15

anything else—there will be several thousand of our

26:17

fellow citizens in every country who

26:20

haven't done anything stupid.

26:22

They didn't go on vacation during an epidemic just

26:24

because—they simply had business there, or

26:28

some kind of family circumstances

26:30

came up; maybe a wife ended up there because of her husband,

26:33

or something like that—so that's how they ended up in

26:36

these countries, and they need help with

26:38

evacuation. What's more, the overwhelming

26:40

majority of them—I looked through quite a

26:43

lot of these Facebook posts—they

26:46

are all ready to pay for their own evacuation. More than that,

26:48

they had already bought plane tickets on

26:51

flights that were supposed to take them out, but then

26:53

at one fine moment Russia said:

26:55

stop bringing people out. These people

26:58

were left abroad, and they're, damn it, living in

27:01

the airport. I mean, this is just—

27:03

here's the video, and honestly

27:09

I was so outraged I practically froze.

27:13

Excuse me, but I really

27:14

watched this video of them at the airport in

27:16

Korea. Can you imagine? Koreans are watching,

27:18

and these Russian guys have lined up in a kind of

27:22

wall and are recording this plaintive

27:24

video appeal to the president and to the world:

27:27

get us out of here. Let's watch it.

27:28

It's a disgrace. It's one minute and fifteen seconds long.

27:33

We, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, we

27:35

citizens of the Russian Federation, appeal

27:37

to you and ask for your help. We are in

27:40

a hopeless situation at Incheon International

27:42

Airport in the Republic of South

27:44

Korea.

27:45

Because our flights were

27:47

abruptly canceled and the airspace was

27:49

closed by Russia's aviation authorities for the entire month of April,

27:51

we ask you, as president, guarantor of the

27:54

Constitution, and leader of the country,

27:56

to allow Russians to fly home and not

27:58

abandon us in this difficult situation.

28:00

Right now, hundreds of Russians whose flights

28:02

with Aeroflot and Aurora Airlines were

28:05

canceled are literally forced to live in

28:07

the airport.

28:08

Abandoned by the state, among us

28:10

there are pregnant women, elderly people in

28:12

poor health, small children requiring

28:15

care, and insulin-dependent people who

28:17

need

28:18

medication. Our flights were canceled

28:20

because the Russian Federation introduced

28:22

restrictions on the number of passengers flying into

28:24

Russia. We were provided with neither

28:26

housing nor food. People have been in this condition

28:29

since March 31. Specific

28:31

information about the organization of evacuation

28:32

flights is unavailable. We, citizens

28:34

of the Russian Federation, are in

28:35

dire straits.

28:36

We ask you to arrange the possibility of

28:38

opening the airspace so that we

28:40

can return to Russia. Do not leave us

28:42

in trouble.

28:43

Bring us home.

28:49

80,000 people are watching all this live.

28:51

And this is just truly

28:54

a national disgrace, a national humiliation.

28:56

They all paid for their tickets and

28:59

would probably be willing to pay again.

29:01

But instead they have to—it's as if they were some kind of

29:04

Arabs—no, as if they were

29:06

nobody knows who, from some kind of, I don't know,

29:08

destitute country with a zero budget. They're from

29:10

the Russian Federation, where there's a sea of money. They

29:13

have to stand in the airport in a rich country, South Korea,

29:15

so that

29:18

smirking Koreans can look at them, and

29:20

they have to chant together: bring us home.

29:23

Because they're counting on the idea that when

29:25

we record a little video and talk about

29:28

pregnant women and about how our

29:30

situation is so desperate that we're surviving in the airport,

29:32

then maybe Maria Zakharova

29:36

or, I don't know, that whole crowd of crooks

29:38

from the Russian Foreign Ministry

29:40

will finally start doing something. They have

29:44

planes flying to Italy, to the U.S., to Serbia; today

29:47

there was a statement that they would fly to Bosnia and

29:49

Herzegovina—we'll be providing

29:51

assistance, planes are flying all over the place. Why can't we

29:54

bring these people out at their own expense? They bought

29:57

tickets. There are a huge number of stories like this.

29:59

I wasn't too lazy, I went and looked—or rather, no, that's not quite right.

30:02

First I read, I think, on some journalist's page—

30:05

maybe Barabanov or Talibov,

30:07

or whoever—that if you go to Maria

30:11

Zakharova's Facebook, the main

30:13

foreign-policy propagandist, and there

30:15

at first, under every Facebook post,

30:18

so you'd know: everyone truly matters,

30:22

she writes that she'll save everyone, yes, so that you

30:26

know—she writes, for example, on March 28,

30:29

about how she's saving everyone, practically taking off

30:32

her last pair of red boots and selling them.

30:34

In the next post she writes: we're all working on this

30:38

together around the clock, says Maria

30:42

Zakharova, with such theatrical anguish.

30:44

And then it all stopped. There's nothing.

30:47

Nothing is happening because Russia

30:49

stopped evacuating its citizens, and these

30:51

citizens

30:52

are recording these heart-rending

30:55

videos, but no one even notices them anymore. Yes,

30:57

why can't we get these people out?

31:00

They paid for their tickets.

31:02

Well, aren't they our fellow citizens? And even if

31:06

some of them are super

31:09

careless people—yes, let's call them

31:11

honestly, idiots—who in the middle of

31:14

an epidemic went off to Thailand—yes, there are people like that too.

31:16

But I'm sure most of them are not like that.

31:18

They were simply working there somewhere, or

31:20

again, they have relatives living there, or some

31:22

other circumstances. I read people's posts.

31:24

People can't fly out of New York.

31:26

They bought tickets several times, but the flights

31:29

were canceled, and then the last flight was taken away

31:31

for only those who live in Moscow and

31:33

the Moscow region. And there is a 16-year-old

31:36

girl from Novosibirsk who was there on an

31:39

exchange program. She came to study.

31:42

She was studying, but the educational institutions

31:44

closed. The girl said she had been living

31:46

with a host family, and they told her,

31:48

"Your stay is over, fly back home to Russia."

31:51

The girl can't leave; she's 16 years old.

31:54

Her parents can't fly in to rescue her.

31:57

What the hell is going on? Where is the Russian Foreign Ministry?

32:00

That plane arrives,

32:02

and they say, "We'll only take Muscovites," and this

32:04

girl is left there. And from some countries,

32:09

like Israel—but you understand yourselves,

32:11

Israel is obviously a place where

32:13

there is constantly a huge

32:16

number of Russian citizens. Why

32:18

can't they be brought back? They are definitely ready

32:19

to pay.

32:19

Let's watch a video from Israel, from 1 minute to 1

32:22

second: by the toilet,

32:32

in the Spartan conditions of the waiting hall,

32:33

Russian tourists have been living for almost a week. On March 29,

32:37

they were supposed to return to Russia

32:39

on an Aeroflot flight.

32:40

However, the flight was canceled. Some

32:42

of the travelers went off to

32:44

hotels, but those who had no money stayed at

32:46

Tel Aviv airport, in the deserted halls

32:49

of Ben Gurion. Sixteen Russians are living there, including

32:51

people from Chelyabinsk.

32:52

And there's a woman after surgery—she's really

32:55

in very, very bad shape.

32:57

Poor thing, she doesn't even know how

32:59

to lie down, and she has had her entire

33:01

stomach removed. They were supposed to fly out, and there's

33:03

absolutely zero attention even to her.

33:05

Because of the coronavirus, Russia suspended

33:07

international air travel. Those who

33:09

remained abroad are being evacuated by charter flights, but

33:11

not on a mass scale—there is a limit, according to

33:13

a government decree. Moscow

33:15

accepts up to 500 fellow citizens a day; in

33:17

airports in other regions, the limit is

33:20

200 people a day. Yes, yes, yes—I do not want

33:36

Russian citizens spending the night

33:38

next to a toilet in some airport. I

33:40

forbid this eternal thing where we have to

33:43

ban everything—but this is really just

33:45

abuse, just disgraceful. Do we really need

33:46

this kind of cruelty toward people?

33:49

And returning to my point: even if there are

33:51

super-mega-stupid people who went off

33:54

in the middle of an epidemic,

33:55

they are still our citizens. There aren't that

33:59

many of them—they need to be brought back. Fine, yes,

34:01

you can say, "Guys, you're idiots, we'll

34:04

bring you back now at the state's expense,

34:06

but then within, say, a year, you must

34:09

pay for the ticket," or immediately, those who can

34:11

pay for the ticket. But that's not even

34:12

the problem, because all of them bought

34:15

tickets and are ready to pay for a ticket,

34:17

but we're not bringing them back. Take the foreign minister—

34:20

whose surname is Vinokurov,

34:23

our foreign minister's surname is

34:25

Vinokurov—ah,

34:29

sorry, please, the stress of a live broadcast.

34:32

My wife is standing here next to me, prompting me

34:34

that it's Lavrov. Sorry, please, I remember

34:36

Lavrov.

34:37

Take Vinokurov—

34:39

a multimillionaire earning money through a very

34:41

dubious business.

34:42

He himself, with his own money, could bring everyone

34:46

out.

34:47

It would be a grand, beautiful gesture. In any

34:50

case, we have enough money in the budget

34:52

to bring everyone back. Why should we be so

34:54

humiliated? Why should these people be so

34:56

humiliated?

34:56

Why should they live in an airport for a week while people

34:59

walk by? Maybe someone will say that

35:01

this too reflects some kind of

35:04

chauvinism in me or something, but I absolutely

35:06

it really infuriates me that some

35:08

people walk past us in transit and think,

35:10

"Oh, Russians are lying around here,

35:12

they've made themselves a little nest here in the corner

35:14

by the toilet." Koreans, Chinese,

35:17

all sorts of people pass by,

35:19

Arab sheikhs—or not sheikhs, just ordinary people—

35:22

they walk by proudly, and here are Russians

35:23

lying around like homeless people.

35:24

No, this is absolutely impossible, and

35:29

we most certainly have the money, and we definitely

35:31

should not be engaged in this nonsense—

35:34

sending to all countries of the world

35:37

some Boeings, some military

35:40

huge aircraft, and yet not bring back our

35:42

people. Just send planes for

35:44

these poor people in South Korea,

35:46

pick them up. Is that so hard? Yes, probably

35:48

there is a problem, because they would need to be

35:50

brought back and put into quarantine.

35:51

Then bring them back and put them into quarantine.

35:54

Because otherwise this is simply

35:58

real national betrayal.

36:00

And it is being committed precisely by those

36:03

Foreign Ministry employees who, I believe,

36:06

lie every day and boast about how they

36:09

never abandon their own, how they do everything, how they save everyone.

36:12

As usual, you abandoned everyone.

36:14

You humiliated everyone, insulted everyone. And as if that weren't enough,

36:17

later, when they finally do get out—

36:18

you'll also lie and say that

36:21

you never abandoned your own. So let's

36:23

pay attention to this situation too.

36:25

88,000 people are watching live.

36:28

They watched live my embarrassment, how I

36:31

couldn't remember the surname of the foreign

36:33

minister on an actual live

36:36

broadcast.

36:37

Sometimes you just blank out terribly, Anatoly.

36:41

I’m continuing to answer questions from those

36:44

people who became sponsors of our

36:45

channel by clicking the “Sponsor” button.

36:47

Anatoly Myvrynkov asks me:

36:49

“Alexei, how are you coping without your morning runs?

36:50

Do you run around the apartment, or

36:52

do you still break self-isolation for

36:54

that?”

36:54

Anatoly, even if I wanted to break

36:57

self-isolation—which I do not—I wouldn’t

37:01

be able to go running without you noticing it

37:03

right away. Around the entrance to my building,

37:04

there are always several of these

37:06

idiots on duty—Prigozhin’s trolls (supporters of Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Kremlin-linked businessman).

37:08

They constantly stand there

37:10

waiting for me to break self-

37:14

isolation. When I go to the store, they film me

37:17

walking to the nearest shop.

37:19

They don’t post it because the footage would be

37:21

not very interesting from the standpoint of,

37:23

“Navalny, carrying a shopping bag, goes to the store.”

37:24

If I went out for a run somewhere—which I’d really

37:27

like to do, because I’m suffering stuck in the apartment—

37:29

you can’t really run enough indoors. I mean, in an apartment

37:31

you can walk around, and of course it’s hard to make yourself

37:33

pace around the apartment, and every day you think,

37:34

“Today I’ll do 40 minutes,

37:37

I’ll exercise,” and

37:38

of course I’ll get back to it. Unfortunately, like all

37:41

of you, I don’t end up doing those physical

37:42

exercises—you have to force yourself. In other words,

37:45

I’m like everyone else: I miss running,

37:48

but I’m not breaking self-isolation, and I urge everyone

37:50

not to break self-isolation either.

37:52

Because the situation with

37:57

coronavirus—let’s now move fully

37:59

to that topic—is not

38:01

very good. I’d say it’s quite

38:03

bad. We see different charts, but I’ll

38:06

give you just one number.

38:08

I’ll give you several different figures, but I’ll start with

38:10

one. You know, I’d like to ask you:

38:13

where was there a high number of coronavirus cases

38:16

per

38:18

capita? You tell me, or I’ll

38:21

tell you. And also—

38:22

you answer me: China. And here’s

38:26

the news, my dear friends: this morning we had

38:28

an announcement that more than ten

38:30

thousand people are infected with coronavirus in

38:32

Russia, according to Russian statistics, which we do not

38:35

believe. And that means that per

38:37

capita, we now have more people infected with

38:39

coronavirus than China does. In

38:41

China, recalculated, it was 57 people

38:43

per 1 million.

38:44

For us, it is already 69 people per million.

38:48

Sixty-nine people per million may not sound

38:51

like a very large number, but in any

38:53

case, the scale of the problem here is already

38:57

greater than in China, and we of course

39:01

absolutely must stay home. And those who

39:04

are forced to go to work one way or another,

39:06

or simply have to go to work because

39:08

they are a doctor, or because they are a cashier in

39:10

a store—right now that is truly a very important

39:13

profession. It has always been a normal profession;

39:15

now it is a profession for brave and

39:17

noble people. Everyone who works at

39:20

retail outlets, who handle food there,

39:21

who produce and sell it—all of that

39:24

is important, and these are very important jobs right now, and we

39:27

should be proud of these people. If you

39:28

have to go out, take care of yourself, because

39:30

it’s hard to imagine what the real

39:34

percentage of infected people actually is right now.

39:37

Because, as I said in the previous

39:40

program, about statistics: you should not, cannot, it is simply impossible

39:43

to trust the statistics

39:45

they are giving us.

39:48

Last Thursday they said that 670,000

39:51

people in Russia had been tested. I

39:54

even ran a poll here on YouTube.

39:56

Several tens of thousands of people

39:57

voted, and all of them said: we don’t

39:59

know anyone around us

40:02

who has actually gone through this

40:05

testing. So it’s all lies. This

40:06

Thursday they are already claiming the figure of 1

40:08

million people tested. We

40:11

of course simply understand objectively

40:13

that this is a lie. On the one hand, we

40:16

understand that it is a lie; on the other hand,

40:17

today the Moscow Department of Health—

40:19

the region with the highest

40:23

number of cases—finally, out of this

40:25

enormous stream of lies, very harmful

40:28

lies—I would like to dwell today

40:30

on how these lies

40:32

will do us great harm—finally

40:34

said one tiny word of truth.

40:37

The head of the department

40:38

of Moscow’s Health Department, a man named Khripun,

40:40

a person I find completely unsympathetic,

40:42

whom I consider corrupt, sent out

40:44

a fairly candid letter in which he very

40:47

clearly wrote: guys, these our

40:49

tests—obviously meaning

40:51

the domestically produced tests

40:53

made by Vector in Novosibirsk (a Russian state virology center)—

40:55

because others are not certified

40:56

here—they show nothing; they produce

41:01

a large number of so-called false

41:03

negative results. Volkov

41:06

wrote an excellent post on this topic

41:08

on Facebook. Indeed, if you

41:10

read Facebook and VKontakte, your

41:13

acquaintances tell their stories

41:15

about how they ended up in the hospital with coronavirus.

41:17

That story

41:19

in 99 percent of cases begins like this: “They took a sample from me,

41:23

and it showed

41:25

a negative result.”

41:26

Then they took another sample from me, most often a second one,

41:29

and it showed a negative result too. And

41:32

only later, when I had already basically started

41:34

dying, they did some other test

41:36

and it showed a positive result for

41:38

We don’t know for sure whether

41:41

these tests really were as terrible as

41:45

the ones produced by our domestic

41:46

industry, unfortunately, or whether they

41:48

manipulated the statistics. But by now

41:50

it is absolutely clear that a huge number

41:53

of negative results among those who

41:55

came in for testing were simply wrong.

41:58

They were producing false negatives. This

42:00

isn’t just my opinion — it’s the official position

42:03

of the Moscow Health Department, and

42:05

that probably helps explain, at least in part,

42:08

why we are carrying out

42:10

additional testing. But

42:12

the main reason, of course, is

42:16

massive, extreme corruption, which even

42:19

here continues unabated, and in general it’s just

42:21

a massive scam. Afterward I saw

42:23

a person on Facebook who carried out a very

42:25

simple experiment,

42:28

He took a calculator and the official

42:30

statistics from different countries: how many people

42:33

had been tested, how many infected people

42:36

had been identified, and worked out the ratio of how many

42:38

tests were used per one infected person. In

42:41

every country in the world, several

42:42

tests are used per infected person, because there

42:45

are so-called false-negative

42:47

results, and then any person

42:49

while they are ill needs several tests

42:51

to be done — first one, then confirmation,

42:53

then a check whether the illness is still present,

42:55

and so on. That’s obvious. And the statistics show

42:57

that in the United States — show that post if we

43:00

can — yes, in the U.S. they do 5 tests

43:03

per infected person, in Spain 2, in Germany 9,

43:06

in the UK 4, and in Russia 129. That is,

43:12

per one infected person, if we take

43:14

the official testing statistics. And now

43:17

it has become much higher still, because

43:19

this supposedly one million

43:20

tested people — those are very recent

43:22

figures — 129 tests per infected person. Well, we

43:25

both understand that this is a lie,

43:28

a complete, absolute lie. If

43:31

you took 129 tests from every infected

43:34

person, that would mean they had no time

43:36

to be sick, no time to cough, and

43:38

no time to die — they’d be taking a test every five minutes.

43:40

But that obviously wasn’t happening.

43:42

Each of them gets one, two, three, four, maybe five tests, while in

43:45

other countries it’s five tests. Can you imagine

43:48

the scale of the lie? And this woman,

43:50

this disgusting woman, who I believe

43:53

should get what she deserves, with the surname

43:54

Popova, from Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer safety watchdog), she is simply

43:57

endlessly talking about the number

44:00

of people tested, and

44:02

it’s just — it’s a lie that is impossible

44:06

to tolerate.

44:06

Because the consequences of this will be

44:11

monstrous. They say that we

44:13

tested this many people and identified this many

44:15

tested this many and found this many

44:16

infected people, but in reality they

44:19

tested this many and found this many

44:21

infected people, and about all the rest

44:22

they lied. And there too, possibly, those

44:25

infected people, instead of — they don’t necessarily

44:27

need to be in hospital, because when

44:29

a person is told, “We tested you,”

44:31

“you’re positive, stay home,” then

44:33

a normal person will, more often than not,

44:35

remain under a much stricter

44:38

quarantine than just some guy under

44:40

suspicion. But that isn’t happening. This is

44:43

a lie that leads to the fact that

44:45

the disease keeps spreading.

44:48

For the young, it may be manageable; for the elderly,

44:51

it is deadly dangerous, and this deadly

44:54

danger is being created, unfortunately, by

44:58

our Rospotrebnadzor, which now

45:00

is one of the key

45:02

agencies

45:03

that is supposed to be fighting the coronavirus.

45:05

Actually, I ended the program

45:09

with a funny video — well, maybe not

45:12

that funny, maybe sad instead. So,

45:15

the speaker of the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly,

45:18

a man named Makarov, says from the podium

45:21

that the city on the Neva, our beautiful

45:23

St. Petersburg, will be protected by an icon,

45:25

some icon of some saint or

45:27

some Mother of God,

45:28

which was taken up in a helicopter and flown around

45:32

the city.

45:33

They would fly around St. Petersburg with it, and

45:36

an invisible dome of holiness would protect it from the

45:39

malicious virus. Everyone laughed at that, but

45:42

that’s what Makarov said.

45:45

Then, a couple of days later,

45:48

almost the very next day, we quite seriously

45:50

saw this. Let’s watch:

45:52

a black Mercedes,

45:53

flashing lights, an icon — all of Russia was in this video.

45:58

I

46:01

[music]

46:11

Scheler

46:16

[music]

46:24

the very

46:31

our

46:33

Vanya

46:34

[music]

46:38

foundation

46:41

Apple

46:44

I showed you the wrong video, sorry about that.

46:47

Please excuse the mix-up. That video really does show

46:48

how they fly around in a helicopter —

46:50

with clergy singing — but

46:52

there is a much more colorful video. If

46:55

you spend a lot of time on social media,

46:57

especially on Twitter, you’ve seen plenty

46:59

of photos — very clear ones — showing some kind of

47:01

Mercedes, with Patriarch Kirill sitting inside, holding

47:05

an icon there in that black leather interior,

47:08

with flashing lights blinking from all sides, and they are reading

47:12

and singing a prayer at the same time as he drives

47:15

along the MKAD (Moscow Ring Road). It’s interesting that he’s circling Moscow like this.

47:17

So I went around that way, and I didn’t go into New Moscow (the expanded administrative area of Moscow).

47:19

I didn’t drive in there — I went around via the MKAD (Moscow Ring Road).

47:21

And on the one hand, that really is...

47:23

...nothing all that bad — there are religious people,

47:25

and maybe it somehow makes things feel better or

47:28

easier for them. Fine. Believers can be different,

47:30

faith comes in different forms too. I’m a believer myself,

47:32

but this, this whole thing here,

47:35

these icons in a Mercedes on the MKAD,

47:38

it only makes me laugh. If it makes someone feel

47:40

better, then fine. But no, there’s no video of it,

47:44

unfortunately. I won’t be able to show you that video,

47:46

but it really, very clearly

47:49

shows everything that’s happening in the country.

47:52

If it were, let’s say, anyone at all in

47:55

any Mercedes — though of course I’d prefer

47:57

fewer flashing escort lights around them — but if

48:00

all of this were accompanied by some kind of

48:02

real effort by the federal authorities toward genuinely

48:07

fighting the epidemic, actually fighting it for real,

48:09

and providing real help to the public,

48:12

I was going to say, to hell with it, let them be,

48:14

let them drive them around — but that’s not what’s happening. And the main thing is,

48:18

the main thing for us is this:

48:19

right now it’s just obvious, I mean,

48:24

there’s a gigantic gap between how

48:27

officials ought to understand the situation, how

48:30

they actually understand it. And these two videos from this week

48:34

illustrate

48:36

how the Russian authorities perceive

48:38

what’s going on. First of all, there’s

48:40

that icon in the Mercedes, and second,

48:42

second of all,

48:43

there’s this photo of my mustachioed favorite,

48:48

the press secretary. Maybe, if you can,

48:50

put it up full screen.

48:52

Putin’s press secretary,

48:56

Dmitry Peskov, came to a meeting wearing a badge

49:00

that supposedly repels viruses. I mean,

49:02

at first I thought it was

49:04

some kind of mistake, just a badge with

49:06

“Peskov” written on it. But no — then

49:08

he confirmed it, he actually confirmed it himself. He’s not even

49:10

embarrassed. He really bought a clip-on badge

49:14

that drives away viruses. This is the kind of thing

49:16

all sorts of scammers advertise on Instagram

49:20

for half-senile old grannies and people with

49:24

three years of schooling. It literally says there

49:26

that there’s this kind of

49:27

little device, this gadget, that repels

49:31

viruses if you clip it on.

49:33

Maybe you can also get a zirconium

49:35

bracelet from them, or something else, and the viruses will

49:38

just fly away from you. And Peskov, in complete

49:41

seriousness,

49:41

is using this as protection against viruses.

49:44

And this is not a joke. It just shows — I would’ve

49:49

forgiven Peskov

49:50

more readily for wearing a necklace of garlic,

49:54

or, you know, if he had shown one of those

49:55

photos like in kindergartens,

49:58

where they take a Kinder Surprise egg,

50:00

poke holes in the little Kinder Surprise container,

50:02

put garlic inside, and hang it on children

50:04

around their necks so they won’t get sick,

50:06

so they’ll stay healthy, because

50:08

the amazing garlic fumes kill all

50:11

the germs. I mean, I’d forgive him that

50:13

little garlic thing, because I eat garlic myself

50:16

when I’m sick. But come on, seriously,

50:20

this is the president’s press secretary. He showed up

50:24

wearing this thing, and first of all, it

50:26

shows that these people reject

50:28

the scientific approach.

50:29

They reject medicine. And these aren’t just

50:31

ignorant cave people — they’ve stolen

50:35

a lot of money, he has a watch worth 37 million rubles,

50:37

a yacht, and everything else. But really,

50:40

these are the kind of people who, by any

50:42

logic, ought to be somewhere

50:44

hanging around some back alley. It’s just that

50:46

fate turned out in such a way that they

50:49

became the masters of this country. And we shouldn’t

50:51

underestimate what’s happening,

50:53

because Peskov with this little badge

50:55

is a demonstration that even within

50:57

the innermost, most important circle,

51:01

they genuinely do not understand what needs to be done.

51:04

They believe any kind of bullshit, they don’t read a single

51:08

proper article. I mean, right now,

51:10

of course, we’ve all become virologists,

51:12

there are lots of jokes about that, but

51:16

that’s normal. I think people are reading a lot

51:19

about this topic right now. Ideally, if they’re

51:22

reading in English — lots of people are translating things now —

51:23

but at the very least you should have a

51:26

responsible approach to all of this,

51:27

especially if you’re an official, especially

51:30

a public official. But you’re a public

51:32

official, the aide to the most important person in the

51:35

country, and you walk around with a badge that

51:37

supposedly drives viruses away from you — so then

51:40

what can we expect from other people?

51:42

Why would we even be able to demand

51:44

anything from anyone? Of course we can’t, if

51:48

our president’s press secretary is a [__].

51:49

A public [__]. You know, there’s such a thing as a public

51:52

intellectual — someone who writes

51:54

all kinds of smart columns — and then there’s a public

51:56

idiot.

51:56

That’s Dmitry Peskov, walking around with

51:58

a gadget that repels viruses. That’s how it is, that’s

52:01

how it works. And they — I mean, it’s not like

52:03

he came in and someone said,

52:05

Putin or maybe Golikova (then Russia’s deputy prime minister for social policy) jumped up

52:08

and said, “You idiot,” slapped him, “get out of here, you’re

52:10

setting a terrible example for people.” No one

52:13

did that. He sat there proudly, sat there proud

52:15

of his badge, then gave an interview and said,

52:17

“This is such a cool little thing, I use it to drive away

52:19

viruses.”

52:20

Let me take another question from those who

52:25

became sponsors of our channel.

52:27

Mukh Lyudmi Mukh Rifme asks me:

52:29

“Alexei, what channels do you watch on

52:31

YouTube?”

52:32

Well, listen, probably the same ones you do.

52:35

I watch all sorts of things. Timecodes are a wonderful thing.

52:38

I love video no less than text.

52:42

Because I read very quickly—much

52:45

faster than people can manage to say anything

52:47

in their videos.

52:48

Ever since I discovered timestamps, I watch

52:51

almost all interviews that way, because down below

52:53

I can see what's interesting there.

52:55

You just jump to it and watch it, and that's why for

52:58

my own videos I often add timestamps,

52:59

because I understand: I'm sitting here talking for two hours,

53:01

some people will watch the whole thing,

53:03

and some will watch by timestamp, so I

53:05

just

53:06

well, I go by the same principle: when I'm on

53:09

social media and I see someone write that

53:10

something is interesting, I click through and watch a snippet

53:13

of what they're saying. Right now I watch

53:14

all sorts of our people there, Volkov among them.

53:15

He launched a YouTube channel—subscribe to

53:17

it. I watch everything that comes out live, and

53:20

I watch various interesting

53:23

social and political channels. I just

53:26

set up my feed properly, I think,

53:29

my Twitter feed, and everything interesting happening

53:31

on YouTube, sooner or later, including

53:33

shows up in my Twitter, and I

53:34

can click and watch the interesting

53:37

part of it. Last Thursday I told you

53:39

quite a lot, in a fairly

53:43

outraged voice, in raised

53:46

tones,

53:47

about the raid—well, not a raid exactly—

53:51

about the actions of the Doctors' Alliance, a trade union

53:54

of medical workers that raises money

53:55

and delivers masks and protective equipment to doctors,

53:59

personal protective equipment, to those

54:02

hospitals where there is absolutely nothing. The authorities

54:04

do everything they can to obstruct this, and it so happened

54:06

that exactly

54:07

while I was doing a live broadcast,

54:11

I couldn't have known about it yet—you probably

54:13

may have seen it happening somewhere in parallel, but I

54:14

couldn't have known about it—some kind of

54:16

completely insane, total nightmare was going on, an absolute mess,

54:18

because during this first trip, when

54:20

they went to one of the most

54:24

impoverished hospitals in Novgorod Region,

54:26

which is a very poor region—if you've

54:28

been there, things are really bad there, and there are

54:31

truly destitute hospitals where

54:32

very good doctors work—they

54:34

brought them a small

54:36

amount of protective equipment, and they really

54:38

just detained everyone there. What's more,

54:39

they started beating them. Let's watch this.

54:42

One second—what are you doing?

55:32

[music]

55:41

I spoke and wrote a lot about this

55:44

last week, and really, it

55:47

just looks insane, and you see,

55:49

even by the standards of the current

55:51

authorities, it looks wildly inappropriate. We're used

55:53

to them acting a certain way, I mean, we know

55:56

that they hate

55:57

the Doctors' Alliance because it's an independent

55:59

trade union. They hate anything independent.

56:01

They are constantly going after these people and

56:04

constantly trying

56:06

to discredit them, lying about them all the time.

56:08

They always operate according to some specific

56:11

tactic, within a certain framework,

56:13

with everyone who doesn't bow down to Putin. If you don't

56:16

bow down to Putin, then

56:18

Vladimir Solovyov will go after you, and all

56:21

the others will endlessly

56:22

smear you, and Prigozhin-style bots

56:24

will write about you. But even if they

56:27

don't like you, this is clearly just not

56:29

a proportional response. People raised money,

56:32

bought a few boxes of these miserable

56:34

masks, and took them

56:35

there—and they drag them to the police station, saying they are

56:37

illegally present on the territory

56:39

of Novgorod Region, that they arrived illegally,

56:41

like Pechenegs (a historical nomadic people often invoked in Russian rhetoric), and

56:44

they just left this

56:46

and Vasilyeva, who has two

56:48

minor children,

56:50

to spend the night at the police station, which

56:52

is absolutely illegal, because

56:53

the law prohibits

56:55

arresting women or detaining for 24 hours

56:58

women who have

56:59

minor children. Nevertheless,

57:01

that is what happened, and I kept thinking,

57:07

trying to figure out how to explain

57:09

my view of why this is happening

57:12

in this way. There is, in principle,

57:15

an explanation, and I gave it before in general terms:

57:19

they are simply afraid

57:20

to show the real picture.

57:23

When a person watches live, and in

57:25

our authorities' case, what really upsets them is not that

57:27

doctors don't have protective equipment, but that

57:31

someone might find out that doctors have no

57:34

protection. Because when a trade union

57:37

is forced to deliver these pitiful masks,

57:39

it shows that Russian healthcare has suffered a complete

57:40

failure. But today

57:44

the most precise, absolutely spot-on

57:48

explanation was given by

57:50

a doctor from that very hospital where

57:53

the protective equipment had been delivered, because

57:56

the story continued there in that

57:58

those masks and gloves and everything else

58:01

were brought in, and then the chief doctor came

58:03

and said: I forbid anyone from using this.

58:06

It's all contaminated

58:09

with coronavirus. I forbid anyone from

58:11

using it. If I see that this is here—

58:12

They really have nothing there, objectively.

58:15

After all this scandal, objectively, it's not as if

58:17

they were suddenly flooded with supplies—no, they were not given

58:21

anything of the sort.

58:21

They still don't have a damn thing,

58:23

they're still talking about gauze bandages,

58:26

but if you use what was

58:30

brought to you, we'll really...

58:32

We'll tear them apart and kill them, and the governor...

58:35

of the Novgorod Region said that, well...

58:38

if it concerns humanitarian aid,

58:40

if it were brought to United Russia,

58:43

then there would be no problem — I would personally distribute it.

58:47

Let's watch this doctor — you all know her.

58:50

Apparently, on April 2, personal protective equipment was being brought to us

58:54

personal protective equipment at the

58:56

request

58:57

of healthcare workers from Staraya Russa and Okulovka

59:01

and Borovichi — meaning that right now

59:05

with these supplies here, we had to

59:07

step in.

59:08

All of this had to be unloaded, instead of being distributed among different hospitals,

59:11

unloaded in Okulovka in the presence of

59:14

the police.

59:15

We unloaded these supplies and the medical workers took them home,

59:19

the medical workers took them home because the chief doctors

59:22

of the emergency hospital

59:24

refused to accept these supplies.

59:27

Moreover, they spread a rumor that they

59:29

were contaminated with coronavirus. In fact,

59:32

today I got a call from Borovichi

59:35

asking

59:36

for at least some respirators like these,

59:38

because at the district central hospital they were told

59:44

to sew masks out of gauze.

59:46

At the Okulovka Central District Hospital, there was another story yesterday:

59:49

I was called and told they were being forced to sew masks, and

59:53

none of this exists. What's more, doctor

59:57

Vadym Yuryevich Bodyagin said that if he

1:00:00

saw anyone

1:00:01

with supplies brought by Anastasia Vasilyeva,

1:00:05

I would confiscate them and take them from the hospital for disposal.

1:00:08

Thanks to the actions, I believe,

1:00:11

of our governor, Nikitin,

1:00:14

the governor of the Novgorod Region,

1:00:16

he decided that only he, officially,

1:00:20

and United Russia can

1:00:22

distribute humanitarian aid.

1:00:27

You see, that's exactly where

1:00:29

the problem lies. They robbed all of us, they failed at everything,

1:00:33

and if there is some problem in the country,

1:00:35

then it must be resolved through

1:00:38

United Russia, through United Russia's volunteer centers,

1:00:41

the ones they hastily created.

1:00:43

They keep announcing it constantly;

1:00:45

we keep hearing about some United Russia

1:00:47

volunteers having appeared, but nobody sees any

1:00:49

United Russia volunteers or any other volunteers.

1:00:51

But you have no right, even if

1:00:54

you want to do a good deed, you have no

1:00:56

right to just go and do it. You must

1:00:58

first go to the governor

1:01:00

and to United Russia and say: I want to do

1:01:03

a good deed, I bought a box of masks here.

1:01:05

Fine, give it here, we'll stick

1:01:08

a United Russia label on it and then donate it

1:01:11

as a gift from United Russia. That's the kind of

1:01:14

help they welcome. But if you

1:01:17

do it directly, that's it.

1:01:19

And Vladimir Solovyov, whom

1:01:22

I mentioned at the beginning of the program — he was simply

1:01:24

there was a whole 10-minute segment where he

1:01:27

was genuinely losing it and raging about

1:01:30

the Doctors' Alliance. I'll play you just one minute

1:01:32

that I clipped, where he's talking

1:01:34

about how, my God, an ophthalmologist

1:01:37

— how does she have the right?

1:01:39

An ophthalmologist who, supposedly, treated Navalny

1:01:40

— how does she have the right to go around saying things?

1:01:42

You understand, the person realizes

1:01:45

how absurd and dishonest this is.

1:01:47

A medical trade union — an ophthalmologist in

1:01:51

a medical trade union can purchase

1:01:53

masks and bring them to any doctors, including

1:01:56

ophthalmologists, who can

1:01:58

catch coronavirus and then

1:02:01

infect elderly women who come in for

1:02:03

cataract surgery. Let's watch.

1:02:06

So, this woman is driving there,

1:02:09

it's unknown whether she was tested or not, and she's going

1:02:11

and causing a scene, while at the same time she

1:02:13

is going to inspect some hospital. She

1:02:16

hopes to explain something. Tell me, in

1:02:17

secret, what can an ophthalmologist who doesn't understand a damn thing

1:02:20

about virology, who knows nothing

1:02:22

about it at all — and how can

1:02:24

an ophthalmologist who diagnosed her

1:02:27

only patient, whose last name was

1:02:29

Navalny, through a door, and said, 'You've been

1:02:31

poisoned' — how can this person claim

1:02:35

to any authority on anything?

1:02:36

She was bringing some kind of protection — what, 500 and one

1:02:39

different masks, protective gear?

1:02:42

Are you people crazy? Have you seen that

1:02:44

Spanish video they made? I don't know

1:02:47

whether our guys saw it, where they tested

1:02:48

different masks.

1:02:49

That mask does nothing. Five hundred disposable

1:02:53

masks — maybe just so you don't touch your face. If

1:02:55

you really wanted to bring something, you should have bought real

1:02:57

protective suits and ten of them.

1:02:59

What made you decide, anyway,

1:03:02

that you could bring anything? You have no

1:03:04

authority whatsoever.

1:03:05

You're an ordinary crook who understands nothing about

1:03:08

medicine. What kind of Doctors' Alliance is that?

1:03:11

An alliance of crooks, grifters, scoundrels, and

1:03:14

villains, you understand? You see, there

1:03:17

the key phrase is this: sure, there are lots of funny

1:03:19

insults, but 'you have no authority' — that's

1:03:22

the point.

1:03:22

She brought something, 500 masks, but you can see

1:03:25

these doctors yourselves — they don't even have 500 masks,

1:03:27

they don't even have five masks, they have nothing, they're making them out of

1:03:30

gauze.

1:03:31

But if you're bringing something, then what exactly are you

1:03:34

bringing, and where? You needed a whole bunch of authorizations.

1:03:36

What right do you have to bring it? What authorizations

1:03:39

are required — some kind of license or what?

1:03:41

According to Vladimir Solovyov, you need to come here, and here

1:03:43

there's some

1:03:45

United Russia member sitting here, and Vladimir Solovyov from

1:03:48

Lake Como (in Italy) sitting here,

1:03:49

and here sits a representative of the authorities, and

1:03:51

it's like you've come before an admissions committee,

1:03:53

and they look at you and ask: what was it given for, and for what purpose?

1:03:56

You decided to send your five thousand

1:03:58

rubles to help doctors.

1:04:01

Are you even worthy of doing that? Did you get

1:04:03

permission? For what purpose did you

1:04:05

decide to buy 500 masks and take them not

1:04:08

to a hospital in Novgorod? No, first you must

1:04:10

to begin with, join the United Russia party

1:04:12

(the ruling political party in Russia), please fill out a form,

1:04:14

tell us how many rallies in

1:04:16

support of Vladimir Putin you've attended, wow, how often

1:04:18

and after that we'll license you, and then

1:04:21

you'll be able to help everyone officially under

1:04:24

our label. That's exactly

1:04:26

how all of this works. But the thing is

1:04:28

that they don't help anyone at all. They

1:04:31

won't let us help, and they don't help themselves.

1:04:34

But then what does it mean to 'help'? United

1:04:36

Russia is the ruling party. United Russia

1:04:38

should simply allocate money to purchase

1:04:41

these damn protective supplies that

1:04:43

we've been talking about here endlessly already.

1:04:45

I'm sick of the phrase 'protective equipment,'

1:04:48

but it's super important, super important,

1:04:51

because hospitals

1:04:53

without protective equipment turn into

1:04:56

breeding grounds for coronavirus. I've talked about

1:04:59

this in probably the last 34 broadcasts, and

1:05:02

that is exactly what's happening now. It

1:05:04

is happening right now, and we can see it.

1:05:06

Something absolutely—well, you saw it—happened.

1:05:10

Last Friday there was an appeal from

1:05:13

Pokrovskaya Hospital

1:05:15

in St. Petersburg. Let's take a look

1:05:17

at that appeal, to which the authorities

1:05:20

in St. Petersburg later said: it's all lies.

1:05:23

They said they have all the equipment, that they

1:05:24

weren't even doctors—not even doctors, just

1:05:26

some people. Let's watch: 'We, the staff

1:05:29

of Pokrovskaya Hospital, are appealing for

1:05:31

help to the media, and what prompted us to do this is

1:05:37

that as of yesterday, our hospital

1:05:39

has been admitting all patients, including those with

1:05:45

coronavirus.

1:05:46

We have no protective equipment. Working in such

1:05:53

unprotected conditions is unfortunately

1:05:56

not possible. We appealed

1:05:58

to our management in writing, with a

1:06:00

written request to provide us with

1:06:03

personal protective equipment, and due

1:06:06

to the hospital's response, unfortunately we

1:06:08

were refused.

1:06:10

The department has been allocated 12 respirators

1:06:15

for working with infectious patients. That is

1:06:18

clearly not enough for treating viral

1:06:22

cases. First and foremost, what is needed is

1:06:24

oxygen. Our wards have not been equipped with

1:06:27

oxygen, which means we cannot help

1:06:28

patients in that respect. And if they have already

1:06:32

repurposed us for this, then we want

1:06:36

to be provided either with oxygen

1:06:38

cylinders or to have oxygen lines installed

1:06:41

as urgently as

1:06:43

possible, because that is also very important.

1:06:44

Help us.

1:06:46

Provide us with protective equipment

1:06:48

so that we ourselves do not become infected,

1:06:51

and with something—at least some kind of,

1:06:54

I won't even speak about highly specific, but

1:06:57

some medicines, medications

1:07:00

that are necessary in such conditions. Please provide us with them.'

1:07:03

Why do I say that lies

1:07:06

kill? Because now, without any exaggeration,

1:07:08

they do kill. People are dying because of this, because

1:07:10

everywhere the pattern has three parts, and here

1:07:14

we saw it plainly. Ideally, step one:

1:07:17

the doctors and medical staff of the hospital—

1:07:21

a hospital in St. Petersburg, not in some village

1:07:23

somewhere—say: hey, we

1:07:24

don't have protective equipment, we're all going to

1:07:27

get sick here now and infect others. Step

1:07:30

number two: the city administration

1:07:32

of St. Petersburg—almost Governor Beglov himself—

1:07:34

comes out and says: what lies, everything is there, everything is

1:07:37

wonderful at Pokrovskaya Hospital. These are

1:07:40

some people who aren't even doctors

1:07:42

or nurses; they're misleading everyone. Step three:

1:07:45

what happens to the hospital? That's right, it

1:07:47

is closed for quarantine. People there got infected,

1:07:49

staff got infected, and the hospital was shut down. And

1:07:52

step four: someone will die because of this, because

1:07:55

the hospital is closed for quarantine.

1:07:57

Accordingly, an entire medical—some kind of

1:08:01

medical—unit,

1:08:03

a medical facility that people badly need, can no longer

1:08:05

function properly. It was closed for

1:08:07

quarantine because these people

1:08:09

lied. Why do they lie? Why not just say directly:

1:08:13

'Y-yes, can you imagine, guys, thank you

1:08:15

very much,

1:08:16

dear doctors of Pokrovskaya Hospital, for

1:08:18

bringing this to our attention. We will immediately

1:08:20

take action, allocate from some

1:08:22

emergency budget

1:08:24

some urgent funds, buy you

1:08:26

what you need'? No, they don't do that. They don't

1:08:28

say that. They say everything is there, and then

1:08:31

the hospital is closed for quarantine. And I'm not

1:08:33

just picking on this particular hospital,

1:08:35

Pokrovskaya—this is happening now

1:08:37

all the time. Right now, we have

1:08:41

several hospitals in Russia that have become

1:08:43

centers for the spread of coronavirus.

1:08:45

And this has happened just now; it is

1:08:47

happening in Bashkortostan (a republic in Russia). What is it called there?

1:08:50

That hospital—it is the largest

1:08:53

Republican Clinical Hospital

1:08:54

named after Kuvatov.

1:08:56

A huge, gigantic hospital, and from there

1:08:59

doctors have been writing for the past several days

1:09:02

that people are coming in, and they're being

1:09:07

diagnosed with pneumonia. We understand that

1:09:10

it's coronavirus, but we're forbidden to write

1:09:12

that it's coronavirus, and we—we are

1:09:15

trying to treat them.

1:09:16

They have no protective equipment. Please show

1:09:18

the letter from that

1:09:21

hospital in Bashkortostan, the internal one—who

1:09:23

can get it a bit closer?

1:09:25

And just read this—it's absolutely...

1:09:29

a completely typical situation: they kept forbidding it, forbidding it.

1:09:32

They forbade doctors from diagnosing coronavirus.

1:09:35

They even forbade people from getting CT scans, because, well, because...

1:09:37

because on a CT scan—on computed tomography—

1:09:39

you can actually see it right away.

1:09:40

You can make a virtually certain diagnosis from the scan.

1:09:42

They forbade using tomography for this.

1:09:44

They forbade prescribing CT scans. And what did that lead to?

1:09:47

Everyone knew there was no real protection. What did it lead to?

1:09:49

It led to exactly this.

1:09:50

Several doctors there—already now, a couple of...

1:09:52

dozens of doctors have fallen ill.

1:09:55

They're hospitalized with pneumonia, and the hospital is under quarantine.

1:09:58

The hospital is closed. Look, when I saw...

1:10:01

the video of people climbing out...

1:10:04

of a hospital window, I honestly...

1:10:07

was stunned. It all looks like terrorists...

1:10:09

have taken over the hospital and someone in there...

1:10:12

is trying to escape. Let's watch—22 seconds.

1:10:27

You can get out from there from the first floor...

1:10:37

...

1:10:41

So people are fleeing from the hospital through the windows.

1:10:45

A hospital that has been put under quarantine. Once again, this is...

1:10:48

a huge hospital, the biggest hospital in...

1:10:51

Bashkiria (Bashkortostan, a republic in Russia), the biggest hospital in Ufa...

1:10:53

a city of over a million people. It's under quarantine.

1:10:56

They shut it down. And they're lying about it, saying...

1:10:59

that there is no quarantine, that nothing...

1:11:01

has been closed, that they haven't locked anything down.

1:11:02

The Investigative Committee in Bashkiria—lackeys...

1:11:05

who obey this crook...

1:11:07

Khabirov, who organized all of this,

1:11:08

by the way.

1:11:09

They're trying to hide all of this and sweep it under the rug.

1:11:12

They're opening criminal cases and saying this is...

1:11:15

fake news, that there is no quarantine right now.

1:11:17

They say, now we're going after people who spread...

1:11:19

this kind of information and videos like this,

1:11:21

and we'll prosecute them criminally. But there is...

1:11:23

video evidence, and people are climbing out of windows.

1:11:25

Doctors are writing letters to all kinds of authorities about...

1:11:27

how everyone here has fallen ill, how they...

1:11:29

were forbidden to do all this...

1:11:30

to diagnose it. And what did this lying lead to?

1:11:33

What did the lies of this very...

1:11:36

Khabirov lead to? Because of course this was...

1:11:38

his personal order—I don't doubt that...

1:11:40

for a second—because he needed...

1:11:42

the number of cases in Bashkiria to look smaller. And so...

1:11:45

what did they end up with?

1:11:46

The largest hospital is under quarantine.

1:11:47

Doctors, instead of...

1:11:50

treating people, are now getting sick themselves. Why did you lie?

1:11:52

And on top of that, this man still has the nerve...

1:11:54

to go on the media and say, hey...

1:11:56

doctors, stop begging.

1:12:00

Quote from Khabirov: 'I appeal to the chief...

1:12:03

physicians of all our hospitals, to the heads...

1:12:05

of our medical institutions. Colleagues, we are a very wealthy...

1:12:08

republic, and we have a serious budget.'

1:12:09

'Let's stop this begging.

1:12:11

Stop this whole story of: give me...

1:12:12

fifty masks, give me a kilogram...

1:12:14

of cucumbers. If help is needed, we allocate funds immediately.'

1:12:16

It's shameful? Then allocate the money.

1:12:20

That's the whole point—you allocate nothing.

1:12:22

You've stolen everything there, spent it on black...

1:12:25

Mercedes cars, and you're giving 0 rubles—zero.

1:12:27

Not a kopeck. And you forbid people from telling the real...

1:12:30

truth about the coronavirus.

1:12:32

And what is the consequence of that?

1:12:34

More sick people.

1:12:36

Doctors in hospitals are getting infected.

1:12:39

Hospitals are ending up under quarantine, and you still want...

1:12:41

to say, 'Stop begging'?

1:12:42

Well, if you don't want people to beg...

1:12:44

then give them money. But they don't, and these lies...

1:12:46

are killing people. I am absolutely convinced of that, and...

1:12:50

it seems to me this is an important point that everyone...

1:12:52

needs to understand: in the problems...

1:12:56

with coronavirus that Russia has now...

1:12:58

and will continue to face in the future...

1:12:59

at least 30 percent of the blame—probably even more—

1:13:02

belongs to the stupidity of our...

1:13:04

officials, who lie for some reason. But why...

1:13:08

does Khabirov need to lie? What is the point of it?

1:13:10

Why do this? But I'll repeat: no one is...

1:13:12

blaming Putin, or Sobyanin, or...

1:13:14

Khabirov for the fact that the coronavirus appeared.

1:13:16

I'll say this honestly: we were not prepared...

1:13:18

for this. The whole world was unprepared...

1:13:20

The U.S. has problems, Italy has problems, and...

1:13:23

even the richest countries have problems.

1:13:24

So why is this lying necessary?

1:13:26

Remember how everyone endlessly discussed...

1:13:29

that cruise ship, the *Diamond Princess*, where there were...

1:13:32

huge numbers of sick people?

1:13:34

Those sick people simply were not allowed off the ship.

1:13:36

Well, the exact same thing is now happening here...

1:13:38

in Ufa, in one particular...

1:13:40

hospital building. And for what reason?

1:13:42

Why are these idiotic visits...

1:13:45

by governors necessary? It's obvious why.

1:13:46

Because Putin went, put on a yellow...

1:13:49

protective suit, went to Kommunarka (the Moscow hospital complex),

1:13:51

showed himself off there, staged a PR stunt.

1:13:54

It's forbidden.

1:13:55

According to the rules, officials are not...

1:13:57

supposed to walk around infectious-disease hospitals.

1:13:59

But of course the old man went, and so...

1:14:01

now every idiot in the regions, every...

1:14:04

governor, wants to do the same thing.

1:14:06

And in Pskov Region, one of them barged in too. Let's...

1:14:09

watch this video, and pay attention...

1:14:10

to what kind of suit the governor is wearing, what all...

1:14:13

his entourage are wearing,

1:14:14

and what the doctors are wearing.

1:14:20

Little shoe covers for themselves...

1:15:23

...

1:15:26

What's interesting is that they themselves didn't even...

1:15:29

realize it, didn't understand it. I found this...

1:15:31

video online too, and all...

1:15:33

the comments—every single one of them—

1:15:36

were saying that...

1:15:37

the officials and their attendants...

1:15:39

and the journalists were dressed like some kind of ultra-mega...

1:15:42

deep-sea divers in super protective suits.

1:15:45

while below them, doctors are walking alongside in body armor

1:15:47

with just a mask, or even no mask at all, just a gown and

1:15:50

a cap on their head. They themselves didn’t even notice

1:15:53

that they had barged into an infectious disease

1:15:55

hospital in order to show

1:15:57

essentially that your doctors are walking around without

1:15:59

proper protective equipment.

1:16:01

You went in there and interfered with their work, and then

1:16:03

it started — why? Because, apparently, Putin

1:16:06

went there in that pearl-style stunt, and everyone wants

1:16:07

to get some publicity.

1:16:08

The same with Minnikhanov in Tatarstan, of course

1:16:10

of course — don’t feed him, just let him put on

1:16:13

a suit and walk into a hospital to make

1:16:15

a report about how everything is under control, what a

1:16:17

brave Minnikhanov he is.

1:16:19

He wasn’t afraid of the coronavirus and went into

1:16:21

the hospital. Fifteen seconds — Minnikhanov,

1:16:39

what are you even doing there? You have no business

1:16:42

being in that infectious disease hospital. There is

1:16:44

no courage there, no bravery at all,

1:16:48

and no intelligence in

1:16:50

getting infected with the coronavirus. Take, for example,

1:16:53

the chief doctor at Kommunarka (a Moscow hospital).

1:16:54

That was, in fact, his real

1:16:56

mistake: he got infected with the coronavirus and

1:16:59

now he should be in strict

1:17:00

quarantine,

1:17:01

full quarantine, but instead he’s sitting in his office.

1:17:03

And now these United Russia people are already saying, let’s

1:17:05

nominate him for the Hero of Russia star

1:17:08

in all seriousness — for the Hero of Russia medal.

1:17:11

For what? For catching the coronavirus?

1:17:13

For not following quarantine

1:17:16

rules? For bringing these people into

1:17:18

the hospital for reasons that are completely unclear?

1:17:20

What is all this for? It’s an infectious disease

1:17:22

hospital. People are sick there; you can get infected

1:17:24

with coronavirus there — what exactly is

1:17:26

good about that?

1:17:27

If we consider that, you know, to be a

1:17:29

heroic act,

1:17:30

then we already officially have 10,000

1:17:33

such heroes, and in reality God

1:17:36

knows how many — maybe 30 percent of the population

1:17:39

will go through this sooner or later.

1:17:40

Should we give every one of them a Hero of Russia star? And as for

1:17:43

these idiots who barged into

1:17:44

an infectious disease hospital, why don’t we just also

1:17:46

give them the Order of Glory in all three classes — why not?

1:17:49

Well, as I said on the previous

1:17:51

program, if there is idiocy at the top, in power,

1:17:54

then this is what happens: they put on yellow

1:17:56

suits and walk around with badges like some kind of

1:17:58

coronavirus command center, of course.

1:18:01

Governors and city mayors will do the

1:18:03

same thing, because this kind of wellspring of

1:18:06

idiocy flows downward: if there’s a fool at the top,

1:18:09

then down here you’ll get an idiot, and over there a cretin.

1:18:11

It’s completely unclear what is going on here,

1:18:12

and that’s not even an exaggeration — you

1:18:15

can see it yourselves. I mean, take this video from

1:18:17

the Pskov region, where the governor is in

1:18:19

full gear while the doctors are without it — it simply

1:18:21

amazingly confirms it. Let’s take

1:18:23

another question from our sponsors. Basir

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Sherman Madina asks me whether there are

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legal, transparent ways to return

1:18:33

stolen money to the state treasury after

1:18:35

a change of power, including money that has been moved

1:18:37

abroad. Of course there are. I’ve said many times

1:18:39

that

1:18:40

even African countries have recovered money.

1:18:42

All of this is fairly easy to get back. Look,

1:18:43

all these people like Abramovich

1:18:45

and Usmanov, not to mention the official

1:18:47

Shuvalov — his money is obviously illegitimate.

1:18:49

We issue an arrest warrant for

1:18:53

Shuvalov, or simply arrest him here

1:18:55

and send him to a fair court.

1:18:58

A fair court tries him fairly and orders

1:19:00

his assets confiscated. The assets will be

1:19:02

confiscated. I assure you that

1:19:04

the United Kingdom and Austria, in Shuvalov’s case,

1:19:06

and, I don’t know, Switzerland, wherever

1:19:09

his bank accounts are located, of course will

1:19:10

return that money, because this is

1:19:13

normal practice: if a country

1:19:15

requests it, other countries

1:19:17

generally comply. The only thing is that

1:19:19

right now Russia recognizes nothing,

1:19:22

admits no losses, and does not ask for stolen

1:19:24

money to be returned. But in the Beautiful Russia

1:19:25

of the Future, we will of course ask for that.

1:19:28

Now let’s talk about who

1:19:31

is completely happy right now. The happiest

1:19:34

people in the world right now are our

1:19:37

our

1:19:39

varied and numerous

1:19:42

security forces, because at last their wish has come true:

1:19:44

they can now simply

1:19:48

arrest us and chase us around for

1:19:50

going outside. They could only dream of this.

1:19:53

Because before, they had to invent some

1:19:55

pretext in order to harass people

1:19:57

and extort some 100, 200,

1:19:59

or 500 rubles from them. Now, though, now

1:20:02

you really can just go out — you’ve got

1:20:04

your uniform, your shoulder straps, and you can

1:20:07

walk down the street, I don’t know, smoking a cigarette, and then

1:20:10

see some guy walking by and say to him:

1:20:12

you have no right to be here — detain him,

1:20:15

take him to the police station, lock him up for 15 days,

1:20:17

fine him — with absolutely anyone.

1:20:20

And this is now happening like an avalanche

1:20:22

across the whole country. We are seeing

1:20:25

absurd, completely absurd

1:20:28

reports and videos about how

1:20:31

a person was detained for going 100

1:20:34

meters from home, even though the rule says 100 meters from

1:20:37

home — that’s for walking a dog — he wasn’t supposed

1:20:38

to go that far, so apparently he was going the wrong way, that’s

1:20:41

not allowed. And in the overwhelming majority

1:20:43

of cases, in almost all cases, it’s just one

1:20:45

person walking — not, you know, a group

1:20:48

having a street party and refusing

1:20:51

to obey, so the authorities had to

1:20:53

break it up and detain them. No.

1:20:55

One person, one elderly woman. The elderly woman was sitting

1:20:58

at a bus stop. Six police officers in Kazan

1:21:02

— this is what Minnikhanov (the head of Tatarstan) is busy with,

1:21:04

this nonsense. An elderly woman is going to the hospital, sitting at

1:21:06

the bus stop, and six police officers are carrying out

1:21:08

a special operation against this elderly woman.

1:21:11

Let's take a look.

1:21:44

Here, too, everything is

1:21:52

no, either just once by right of words, because

1:21:55

ID and

1:21:56

[music]

1:21:58

No, no, no, no, we're not filming.

1:22:01

You understand, a certificate or... an old woman,

1:22:04

alone with a bag, either to the store or on some

1:22:07

personal errand. It's bad that she went out, she at night

1:22:10

— she clearly went out on business. It's bad that she

1:22:12

went out; she's in a high-risk group. Six

1:22:14

police officers are detaining her, you understand.

1:22:16

Instead of saying, "Ma'am, where

1:22:19

are you going? We'll give you a ride in this

1:22:22

vehicle so you can get

1:22:24

home faster, so that you spend less time out there

1:22:28

and are less likely, probably, to encounter it," they

1:22:29

detain her. Really — six. Did you count these

1:22:31

people? Six people.

1:22:33

Well, Kuban (the Krasnodar region), of course — Krasnodar — all

1:22:35

of this is now turning into complete trash there,

1:22:37

I mean, Kuban always remains

1:22:40

Kuban. Here's how a detention happens in

1:22:42

Kuban: a person who was sitting on a bench

1:22:44

near the apartment entrance, specifically because he had come and

1:23:21

— let go, I'm saying, you lawless thugs.

1:23:26

Guys, he came to visit. Why are you doing this?

1:23:30

Seriously.

1:23:30

We live right here.

1:23:36

I'll put on the next one.

1:23:48

What fascist bastards. Fine, even

1:23:52

so, we understand that the guy came there

1:23:54

— you can hear it — he came to visit, and we live here.

1:23:56

He lives in the neighboring building; he came to visit.

1:23:58

That's bad, but he isn't observing

1:24:01

quarantine. He really shouldn't have come to visit, that's

1:24:05

truly awful. But to wrestle him down,

1:24:09

twist his arms, put him in handcuffs for

1:24:12

sitting on a bench — come on.

1:24:15

Whether we like it or not,

1:24:16

a huge number of people are visiting each other.

1:24:18

They need to be persuaded otherwise. You need to drive up

1:24:20

there and say, "Man, what are you

1:24:22

doing here?" He'll say, "I came to visit.

1:24:24

Please don't visit people. It's very

1:24:27

bad." Suppose he's also really

1:24:30

reckless or drunk and says, "Ah, go

1:24:32

to hell, I'll keep visiting people."

1:24:34

Then get out of the car and say,

1:24:36

"Show your passport. We'll fine you

1:24:38

300 rubles," and then he won't go visiting

1:24:40

anymore. But, I mean, this is not how it

1:24:43

works. It's just that right now this crowd

1:24:46

of sadists has finally been given maximum

1:24:49

power: literally any person — if, for some

1:24:52

reason, they don't like his face — we'll walk up and

1:24:54

ask him for a pass, and now you

1:24:56

have to show it. What pass? For

1:24:58

what exactly? For example, I still don't understand.

1:25:01

I have a store near my house, and there

1:25:04

is a market nearby. To the market I walk

1:25:06

about 250 meters, probably, and there's an Auchan

1:25:10

in the shopping center — that's the nearest Auchan there.

1:25:11

It's probably about 800 meters away. So if I

1:25:14

walk 800 meters, will I be detained? And if I

1:25:18

walk 300 meters, will I be detained or not?

1:25:20

I genuinely don't understand. There's a store right

1:25:21

in my building, a small one, but in it I can't

1:25:24

buy what I want to buy. So what

1:25:26

am I supposed to do? Where am I allowed to go?

1:25:28

There is no explanation for this at all.

1:25:30

In fact, across the country there are wandering around

1:25:32

huge numbers of people.

1:25:34

But nevertheless, for someone sitting on a bench, they

1:25:36

have to twist his arms, wrench them, and

1:25:38

put handcuffs on him — this is

1:25:40

literally legalized brutality and

1:25:45

legalized — I don't know — the worst

1:25:49

that existed in our law enforcement

1:25:51

system is now just rolling out into the open.

1:25:53

Completely out in the open, and in that sense

1:25:55

of course one of the most, probably one of the most

1:25:59

high-profile stories this week

1:26:01

was the story of Jesus, because he was also

1:26:03

Jesus on Patriarch's Ponds (a famous area in Moscow).

1:26:05

That was simply the biggest hit. I mean,

1:26:08

the man lives at Patriarch's Ponds,

1:26:10

and it turned out he has a rather unusual

1:26:13

name, Jesus, and this man went out to walk with

1:26:16

his dog, went with the dog onto the boulevard.

1:26:18

The boulevard had been taped off with ribbon,

1:26:21

like it was closed, although on the list

1:26:22

of closed parks there are no boulevards at all.

1:26:24

It's completely unclear why the boulevard should be

1:26:26

closed. The man was walking his dog literally

1:26:28

100 meters from his home when

1:26:33

a patrol drove by, and exactly, exactly

1:26:36

in this logic: they were driving, driving,

1:26:37

got bored — let's hassle him, like

1:26:41

his face looks wrong, and the boss told us

1:26:44

we need to fill quotas, we have to

1:26:46

bring people in, so let's go over

1:26:47

and pick on this guy. There he is,

1:26:49

walking his dog. Obviously he's alone, not

1:26:53

in a crowd of ten, hooray — he's walking, he's not

1:26:54

spreading his deadly bacilli.

1:26:56

He was alone, walking his dog. They came,

1:26:58

and detained him.

1:27:00

The dog was left behind. Naturally, a huge

1:27:02

scandal broke out, and I was involved in it too,

1:27:04

because, I mean, they took

1:27:06

the man away, and the dog was left

1:27:09

on the street. Fortunately, the dog knew the way

1:27:11

home — it was nearby — and ran back home.

1:27:13

If it had disappeared, that dog

1:27:16

Look at how they detained Jesus — 32 seconds.

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[music]

1:27:38

This.

1:27:52

You see? And he's shouting, "Yes, I'll take the dog," and

1:27:55

they drag him into this van. What exactly

1:27:57

did they pick on him for? What bad thing did he do?

1:28:00

Fine, he stepped onto the boulevard, tore off

1:28:02

I've seen a lot of discussion about the tape, and

1:28:05

people saying, like, well, here he broke the rules

1:28:08

because he tore down the tape and went onto the

1:28:11

boulevard.

1:28:12

And here, of course, the police were in the wrong

1:28:14

because they didn't take the dog, and there was

1:28:16

this other legal opinion: were the police supposed to

1:28:18

whether the police should

1:28:19

detain the dog and catch it while it was loose,

1:28:22

because, well, if, say, another

1:28:24

person killed someone with a dog, should the

1:28:26

police officer catch the dog, kill it—

1:28:28

probably not.

1:28:29

And all of this is abstract theorizing and pointless hair-splitting

1:28:31

because the main issue here

1:28:34

the key point isn't whether people should

1:28:36

or whether the police should catch the dog—the main thing is

1:28:38

whether the police should be bothering a person

1:28:41

who is walking a dog. What is the public

1:28:44

danger, even if he was walking a kilometer

1:28:47

from his home, a kilometer away from home?

1:28:49

If that's so terrible, you can walk up and ask

1:28:52

him, "Excuse me, do you live here

1:28:54

or do you live on the other side of Moscow?"

1:28:57

If he says, "I live on the other side of Moscow,"

1:28:59

then they should have said, "Please don't

1:29:01

come here again." That's what the function

1:29:04

of the police is, because the public

1:29:05

danger from a person who is alone, at a

1:29:08

distance—as we can see there, 100 meters

1:29:10

away from everyone, walking by himself—is zero. The police

1:29:13

shouldn't have been paying him any

1:29:15

attention at all. But nevertheless, they dragged this out,

1:29:17

then started issuing press releases, and

1:29:19

the next day they hauled him to court, and in court

1:29:22

he was fined. They would have jailed him if there hadn't been

1:29:25

a huge scandal. If it had been called not Jesus but Kolya (a common Russian male name, like "Nick"),

1:29:26

not Jesus but Kolya,

1:29:28

and especially if he hadn't had

1:29:29

a dog, then absolutely no one would have paid

1:29:31

any attention. But if, I don't know,

1:29:33

he had carried the dog in his arms,

1:29:35

people wouldn't have started getting upset that

1:29:37

the dog had been abandoned in the street. They would have

1:29:39

locked him up for 15 days. So the police,

1:29:41

the judges, then the detention center—everyone would have been

1:29:45

involved in this super-mega

1:29:48

law-enforcement operation that arose

1:29:51

because of what? Because of nothing. Out of zero, out of

1:29:53

thin air. None of this needed to be done at all.

1:29:55

And the reason I'm saying now that this is

1:29:58

a holiday for all law-enforcement officers

1:29:59

is because our law-enforcement agencies, for the most

1:30:02

part,

1:30:03

are basically fake and spend their time on

1:30:05

useless nonsense, and right now they're simply in

1:30:07

ecstasy over the fact that this useless

1:30:09

nonsense gives them ready-made case files,

1:30:13

ready-made criminal cases, ready-made clearance statistics,

1:30:16

ready-made administrative case materials.

1:30:18

You can walk in and say, "Today we

1:30:20

detained 18 people,"

1:30:22

and they say, "What a good job, top marks for you, you'll get

1:30:24

another rank, or you'll get a bonus."

1:30:26

And the stupidest thing in this whole series

1:30:31

that I've seen is, of course, the opening of a

1:30:34

criminal case. On the website of the Investigative

1:30:36

Committee (Russia's main federal investigative body), there appeared this proud, very proud

1:30:40

statement from the head of the press service

1:30:43

of the whole committee, saying that we

1:30:46

have opened a criminal case against

1:30:49

citizen Thorn. I saw that I was asked here

1:30:52

a question specifically about Thorn, so

1:30:54

someone here under the nickname Version20 asks:

1:30:57

"Tell us about Alexander Thorn, against whom

1:30:58

a criminal case was opened."

1:31:00

The Investigative Committee solemnly

1:31:03

announces: we have opened a criminal case against

1:31:05

this person because he

1:31:06

is spreading fake information about the coronavirus.

1:31:08

This is a comedian who recorded a parody

1:31:12

video, a joke about the coronavirus, and it's

1:31:16

absolutely obvious to anyone that

1:31:19

he's a well-known comedian. Go to his

1:31:20

Twitter and you'll see he constantly posts

1:31:22

little humorous videos. Let's watch this

1:31:25

joke, for which they'll probably later open a

1:31:27

criminal case against me too, because I

1:31:29

shared it. Friends, I ask everyone to

1:31:34

spread this video. The information

1:31:37

came to me from firsthand sources. So, that

1:31:40

September explosion at the laboratory

1:31:42

at Vector in Novosibirsk (a Russian state virology center), which you've all

1:31:44

heard about, where the coronavirus was developed—

1:31:47

it was blown up deliberately so that the

1:31:51

virus would get into the air. And note that

1:31:54

that was exactly when the forests in Siberia were burning. They

1:31:58

were also set on fire deliberately so that this

1:32:01

smoke from the fires would pick up the virus and

1:32:03

carry it to China, so that from there all of this would

1:32:06

spread. It was an operation by the shadow

1:32:09

world government,

1:32:10

the Freemasons, and I hope it's clear that this was so everyone

1:32:14

would start talking only about the virus, while the truth about

1:32:16

the fact that the Earth

1:32:18

isn't round would stop spreading,

1:32:21

to drown it out,

1:32:22

so that all of us, like sheep, would now beg for

1:32:26

a vaccine—in other words, to get us hooked on

1:32:28

vaccinations. You understand, I think it's already

1:32:31

clear enough that this is mass

1:32:34

microchipping to control the population.

1:32:36

This is being pushed by Bill Gates and George Soros.

1:32:39

They're also forcing us to eat GMO

1:32:42

products so that we get sick and need

1:32:45

their vaccines with chips, you understand, and

1:32:47

then the microchipping becomes a game—

1:32:51

it all turns into complete nonsense, I mean,

1:32:53

you understand, there are literally officers from the

1:32:56

local committee sitting there in their offices,

1:32:58

with Bastrykin (head of Russia's Investigative Committee) peering through a magnifying glass at the

1:33:01

laptop screen—on the laptop screen

1:33:02

a guy is saying that the Freemasons

1:33:05

set the forest on fire so the smoke would carry the corona-

1:33:09

virus to China, so that everyone would start talking

1:33:11

about the coronavirus and stop discussing

1:33:13

the fact that the Earth isn't round. I just can't

1:33:15

deal with this, and it seems to me that this

1:33:18

Like, as a joke, they open a criminal case.

1:33:21

They open a criminal case, and then another criminal case, and

1:33:24

they also put out some pompous press release on

1:33:28

the website of the Investigative Committee (Russia's main federal investigative agency), and then

1:33:30

Putin will read out, at one of his regular addresses, this

1:33:33

statement from a piece of paper and say, "According to information

1:33:36

from the local committee, there have been

1:33:38

such-and-such number of criminal cases opened." True, they are fake cases, and

1:33:42

many of these so-called offenses were spread

1:33:44

abroad. So, for example, Thorn lives

1:33:46

abroad, and they have now opened

1:33:48

a criminal case against him. He will plainly go into

1:33:49

these statistics: he spread a dangerous

1:33:52

fake, the purpose of which was supposedly

1:33:55

to cause panic among the population. He lives

1:33:56

abroad, but obviously, of course, it was exactly those

1:33:59

same Masons, 5G, and Bill Gates

1:34:01

who did all this. I mean, that's what they do,

1:34:06

that's what this is, and there's no

1:34:08

and it even seems absurd to me

1:34:10

because they genuinely enjoy it, they

1:34:12

revel in the opportunity to do super

1:34:14

idiotic things two hours before this

1:34:17

program.

1:34:17

I mean, we still assumed

1:34:19

that the Investigative Committee under the leadership of

1:34:22

Bastrykin (Alexander Bastrykin, head of the Investigative Committee) is certainly

1:34:24

an organization incapable of fighting

1:34:26

corruption, with a leadership that is totally

1:34:28

corrupt. I mean, it's really packed with

1:34:29

crooks and swindlers, and yet it does

1:34:34

things like this. But today they also

1:34:36

opened a criminal case—guess what

1:34:39

for—over events from 1942–43,

1:34:45

over the mass murder

1:34:49

of residents of the Rostov region by SS troops.

1:34:52

You probably think I'm joking, that somehow

1:34:55

to some extent you think I'm not

1:34:57

serious.

1:34:58

I'm telling you, do you think I'm joking?

1:35:01

I'm not joking at all. This is official

1:35:03

information: the Investigative Committee opened

1:35:05

a criminal case against SS troops. You can

1:35:10

laugh at that,

1:35:12

but at the same time, remember—remember at

1:35:15

the Raspadskaya mine, 91 people died less

1:35:19

than ten years ago, and they closed that criminal

1:35:21

case because the statute of limitations had expired.

1:35:24

Do you understand? Ninety-one people died,

1:35:27

and not that long ago—less than ten years ago—

1:35:29

they closed the case because of the statute

1:35:31

of limitations. Well, because money changed hands there,

1:35:34

they "settled things," but of course they

1:35:37

opened a criminal case against

1:35:38

SS troops who committed war

1:35:42

crimes. That's how our

1:35:44

law enforcement system works, and we

1:35:47

are supposed to keep feeding it when we don't have enough

1:35:50

money for masks for doctors—we're supposed to feed

1:35:52

these idlers and louts. Let's

1:35:55

shame them, really. What needs to happen is simply this:

1:35:57

everyone who knows an investigator or someone in the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service)

1:36:01

or anyone else should just go up to them,

1:36:02

show them this, and say: you should be

1:36:04

ashamed that you work for this system.

1:36:07

You should spit in your boss's face.

1:36:09

If you're afraid, then go into the office and spit on

1:36:12

the portrait of your, I don't know, superior,

1:36:15

the head of the Investigative Committee, and the President

1:36:17

of Russia, because you are engaged in this shameful

1:36:18

filth while Russia has monstrous

1:36:21

crime and an enormous number of problems,

1:36:23

and you have turned yourselves into a pack of parasites

1:36:25

who паразitize within

1:36:27

the law enforcement system. It is genuinely

1:36:28

very, very shameful.

1:36:30

Aidar Latypov asks me: "Alexei, in your

1:36:33

opinion, how much longer will

1:36:34

self-isolation in Russia last?" Well, listen, I

1:36:36

think it will last until summer. I

1:36:42

think that, judging by the dynamics we're

1:36:44

seeing now,

1:36:46

this definitely will not all be over

1:36:48

that soon. Well, we can probably see that our

1:36:50

government is now gradually

1:36:52

lifting this self-isolation, and in general

1:36:54

the quarantine measures—more and more

1:36:56

factories are starting to work again. For example,

1:36:58

in the Moscow region they said:

1:37:00

we are allowing all factories, all

1:37:03

manufacturers, all foreign companies

1:37:05

to operate. Well, basically all the factories

1:37:06

in the Moscow suburbs are factories of foreign

1:37:08

companies, and in that sense, I mean,

1:37:12

it's just

1:37:14

completely obvious that they will

1:37:16

be easing this quarantine

1:37:20

because they do not want to give people money

1:37:21

and are forced to send them back to work.

1:37:24

But from the point of view of fighting the epidemic,

1:37:27

I'm not sure that's a good idea. At

1:37:29

the very least, we can see that in countries where

1:37:31

the epidemic began much earlier,

1:37:34

in European countries, nowhere has the quarantine

1:37:37

been lifted. So it probably should

1:37:39

remain in place until... Well, it's already 21:39 on the clock,

1:37:45

I've been on air for more than an hour and a half,

1:37:47

and yet people are still watching,

1:37:49

there are still 100,000 people—wow,

1:37:51

100,000 people. Thank you very much for watching,

1:37:53

so I'll chat a little longer.

1:37:55

I actually wanted to draw attention to

1:37:57

one thing here. On the one hand, we see

1:38:00

something absolutely—this is complete

1:38:02

police lawlessness, including toward

1:38:04

an ordinary person whose arms are being twisted behind his back.

1:38:06

On the other hand, as I said in the last

1:38:08

program—and I'll repeat it—

1:38:10

because this is only going to grow—we

1:38:13

see some hellish, utterly

1:38:15

dismissive attitude from all these

1:38:17

people in power, especially those who

1:38:20

are passing the most repressive laws against us.

1:38:23

The Moscow City Duma, for the last two weeks,

1:38:25

has simply been bending over backward

1:38:29

so that the United Russia faction in the Moscow City Duma

1:38:31

could introduce as many fines as possible

1:38:34

and as many kinds of measures as possible.

1:38:36

So, QR codes for Muscovites are like this:

1:38:39

passes, these kinds of passes.

1:38:40

We’ll arrest these people, disperse those people — a system

1:38:43

of video surveillance that will be watching

1:38:45

all of you. And as for these deputies, it turned out

1:38:48

that inside the Moscow City Duma (Moscow’s city parliament), there are only

1:38:50

45 people — forty-five deputies — and there,

1:38:54

according to official data already, four

1:38:56

have fallen ill, that is, ten percent of

1:38:58

the Moscow City Duma deputies are infected

1:39:02

with coronavirus. This happened because

1:39:04

at the head of the Moscow City Duma is an idiot named

1:39:08

Shaposhnikov, who simply spat on quarantine

1:39:10

measures. He knew he had infected

1:39:13

deputies, and nevertheless he held

1:39:16

meetings. That’s exactly the kind of thing people should be jailed for

1:39:18

under the new law — any one of us, really,

1:39:21

if you know

1:39:22

that you have coronavirus and you

1:39:24

throw a party, you can be imprisoned for that.

1:39:26

Imprisoned.

1:39:27

He knows he has sick deputies, and he

1:39:29

holds a meeting, and that’s apparently fine. More than that,

1:39:31

after that meeting, he knew that he had

1:39:33

been in contact with infected people. Under the law

1:39:36

that you, damn it, are supposed to obey, he

1:39:39

was supposed to go home and spend two weeks

1:39:41

in strict quarantine. What does he do? He goes on

1:39:43

television and speaks, and tells people

1:39:45

about how, supposedly, we need to

1:39:47

punish and fine them. Here’s a short excerpt from

1:39:49

our team’s investigation,

1:39:52

which is absolutely right, and I

1:39:54

join this demand, saying

1:39:56

that criminal charges should be brought

1:39:57

against Shaposhnikov.

1:39:58

He gathered the deputies for emergency meetings

1:40:02

on April 1. At that meeting, he said that everyone in the hall

1:40:06

was healthy because the day before they had taken

1:40:09

coronavirus tests. However,

1:40:11

the speaker lied: the test results only became

1:40:14

known several days later, and

1:40:17

many of them turned out to be positive.

1:40:19

At the meeting, there were at least

1:40:21

two people who actually, at that

1:40:24

moment,

1:40:24

had coronavirus. Moreover, already on

1:40:28

April 2, it became known that Stepan Orlov,

1:40:30

Shaposhnikov’s colleague in the United Russia

1:40:32

faction, was also sick with coronavirus. But more than that,

1:40:35

Shaposhnikov not only continued

1:40:37

to actively interact with people, he

1:40:39

refused to close the Moscow City Duma for

1:40:41

quarantine, even though there had clearly been

1:40:44

an outbreak there, with a lot of sick people, which

1:40:47

only became known weeks later

1:40:48

because the tests provide inaccurate

1:40:51

information. And only several

1:40:52

days later, I filed a statement with the Investigative

1:40:55

Committee, demanding that it open a case

1:40:57

against Shaposhnikov under Article 236

1:40:59

of the Criminal Code.

1:41:01

Objectively, I don’t like

1:41:03

Shaposhnikov. He’s an absolutely disgusting

1:41:05

United Russia politician, he leads the United Russia members,

1:41:07

and he lies endlessly. This week he gave

1:41:09

an interview to Echo of Moscow (a Russian radio station),

1:41:10

to Yegor Zhukov. Watch it — I assure you,

1:41:13

you won’t be able to get through even half

1:41:15

of that broadcast before Shaposhnikov’s behavior

1:41:17

drives you mad.

1:41:18

I mean, we don’t like him, but let’s forget that

1:41:20

for a moment — let’s say he isn’t even a United Russia politician.

1:41:23

This is an objective situation: there are

1:41:25

at least four people there — 10 percent of

1:41:28

the official roster — plus staff members

1:41:29

who are sick with coronavirus. Judging by

1:41:32

everything, there are more. Today I read a post by Shuválova,

1:41:34

and there are also several

1:41:36

deputies who, as far as we know,

1:41:40

are in the hospital, but they still won’t admit

1:41:41

that they have coronavirus. In other words, there’s

1:41:43

an outbreak there, and all of them should be in strict

1:41:46

quarantine. What does Shaposhnikov do?

1:41:48

He goes on television, appears publicly, lives

1:41:51

his normal life, goes to work, and so

1:41:55

on and so forth, passes laws

1:41:57

and resolutions under which we’re supposed to have passes

1:41:59

and under which we’re supposed to be fined.

1:42:01

But for him personally, everything is just fine.

1:42:03

So if he wants

1:42:04

to spit on the law like that, then against him

1:42:06

a criminal case needs to be opened. My question is

1:42:07

for Sobyanin (the Mayor of Moscow):

1:42:08

you’re the one who, of course, put Shaposhnikov there —

1:42:11

do you think this is normal? Today there was

1:42:13

a statement — Sobyanin said before

1:42:15

the program that Muscovites had started to

1:42:17

observe self-isolation poorly, and that

1:42:20

is true.

1:42:21

People sat at home for a week, but they need money,

1:42:23

so they started going to work, and now he’s like:

1:42:26

now we’re going to fine everyone, now

1:42:27

we’re going to punish everyone. Start with

1:42:29

your own Shaposhnikov — punish him first, start with yourselves.

1:42:32

This isn’t just some ordinary guy off the street — this is

1:42:34

one of the leaders of the city

1:42:36

of Moscow, who publicly spits on

1:42:39

quarantine and who publicly, in fact,

1:42:42

is committing acts that constitute

1:42:44

a criminal offense.

1:42:45

And you just ignore it all, carry on

1:42:47

as if absolutely nothing

1:42:49

is happening. One of the deputies, a very

1:42:51

good deputy — I’ve shown him here several times —

1:42:52

Stupin. There are also deputies who got sick,

1:42:56

like Gubenko and

1:42:58

Stepan Orlov, and I wish all of them

1:43:01

a full recovery.

1:43:02

Of course, I hope they get better. It’s very telling

1:43:05

that when Stupin fell ill — I’ll just

1:43:07

play this for you — we asked him to record a little something

1:43:09

for our program. Just

1:43:10

take a look: this is a Moscow City Duma deputy from

1:43:14

the opposition faction, who understands perfectly well that

1:43:16

if anything happens, he could

1:43:17

make a scandal out of it.

1:43:18

He says himself that he even ended up being...

1:43:21

The test comes back negative, they do the test,

1:43:22

negative, and you’ll just keep running around and

1:43:25

begging them to start treating you.

1:43:28

And that won’t happen until

1:43:30

— I don’t know — until you practically start dying. Let’s watch.

1:43:32

Stupin.

1:43:33

Minute 43. Hello, friends, my name is

1:43:36

Yevgeny Stupin. On March 30, I took a test

1:43:40

through a doctor at our city Moscow

1:43:42

outpatient clinic for coronavirus. By that time,

1:43:45

I had already had a fever for three days. After

1:43:48

I took the test, the fever went away. Overall,

1:43:51

I was sick for only four days in total.

1:43:53

And on March 30, they told me that within 72

1:43:58

hours there should be a result. On the sixth day,

1:44:02

the clinic informed me that, after all,

1:44:04

my test was positive. By the time

1:44:07

I found out that I had tested positive

1:44:09

for coronavirus, I had basically already recovered

1:44:12

and was feeling fine, and the fever

1:44:14

and cough were already gone by that point. But at

1:44:17

that moment, they started calling me.

1:44:20

From 10 to 18 calls a day — and it’s now the third

1:44:23

day this has been going on. They call from the

1:44:28

telemedicine center,

1:44:29

from Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer protection and public health watchdog), from Moscow City Hall,

1:44:34

from various clinics — from all sorts of places.

1:44:37

I don’t even remember all the institutions

1:44:39

anymore, and they all ask the same questions:

1:44:40

who do you live with, have you been abroad,

1:44:43

what’s your temperature, what about your children,

1:44:46

and so on. Just imagine — every

1:44:47

half hour, some call with the exact same

1:44:50

questions. ‘Why are you asking me

1:44:52

the same thing every time?’ ‘We don’t have

1:44:54

a unified database. That’s just how we

1:44:56

work — everyone is on their own.’ Which

1:44:59

shows that the real work right now

1:45:00

to combat coronavirus is

1:45:03

effectively not being coordinated by anyone. And the

1:45:07

people formally leading this fight —

1:45:09

right now that’s Sobyanin and

1:45:12

Mishustin — in reality, they are not getting into it

1:45:14

at all, they have no real idea

1:45:16

of how this is actually happening on the ground.

1:45:18

You understand, this is a deputy of the Moscow City Duma

1:45:20

who, obviously, should receive

1:45:23

some degree of attention — and even he takes a test

1:45:27

and only on the sixth day does

1:45:30

some actual result come in. We understand perfectly well

1:45:32

— and it’s not because we’re especially smart —

1:45:34

we understand this from the real experience of different countries:

1:45:37

mass, rapid testing. What should

1:45:40

have happened with Deputy Stupin, who

1:45:42

felt unwell and took a test?

1:45:45

He should have been checked immediately, and it should have been established that he had

1:45:48

coronavirus within a day —

1:45:49

or better yet, within a few hours — and

1:45:51

they should have told him: ‘Yevgeny,

1:45:52

you’re not feeling well. You need to

1:45:54

stay home, stay home alone, do not leave

1:45:58

your apartment. You and your family are under strict

1:46:01

quarantine.

1:46:01

In a few days, we’ll come and check on you

1:46:03

again. If you feel worse,

1:46:06

you’ll be hospitalized.’ That’s what needed

1:46:08

to be done, you understand. Not this thing where they sort of

1:46:10

test you and say the result will come in a week,

1:46:12

and in the meantime the person is, well,

1:46:14

still living their life — went to the store,

1:46:17

went here, went there.

1:46:19

But wait — in Stupin’s case, no, he started

1:46:21

behaving very conscientiously and wrote

1:46:23

posts on Facebook about how, basically,

1:46:25

even taking out the trash was difficult, and things

1:46:28

like that.

1:46:28

But in general, that is exactly how it should work:

1:46:30

a person gets sick, and you need to immediately

1:46:32

determine, as quickly as possible, whether it’s coronavirus

1:46:36

or not, do the best available test, and after that

1:46:38

isolate them and prevent another 10

1:46:41

people around them from getting infected. That’s the only way

1:46:43

to fight an epidemic. Here, as Stupin just said, we have the opposite mess.

1:46:45

As Stupin just said, it’s the exact opposite nonsense.

1:46:47

Reporting — everyone needs reporting.

1:46:50

Certificates, paperwork, statistical reports — that’s why

1:46:51

the calls keep coming. Constant manipulation of

1:46:55

statistics and record-keeping, different agencies,

1:46:57

different bosses calling different people and

1:46:59

asking them to report on the situation, and then

1:47:01

reporting on the situation again — and the whole system

1:47:03

is busy endlessly

1:47:05

reporting on the situation, while nobody does a damn thing

1:47:07

about treatment or

1:47:09

prevention. Since we’ve started talking

1:47:12

about our Moscow and our wonderful

1:47:16

mayor of Moscow, Sergey Sobyanin, the

1:47:20

probably most repeated phrase this

1:47:23

week was the one about how the budget won’t

1:47:25

burst. I even wrote it on my mug,

1:47:26

because, well, you know,

1:47:29

that’s what Sergey Semyonovich blurted out. We

1:47:32

know that the federal authorities, generally speaking — and

1:47:34

I’ll talk about this a bit later too —

1:47:36

have chosen a strategy of

1:47:38

not spending any money, not

1:47:41

giving people money directly under any

1:47:44

circumstances — maybe forgiving some taxes or doing

1:47:47

something else, but

1:47:48

but probably only doctors received those

1:47:51

measly 10 billion rubles (about $108 million USD) in

1:47:53

support — two times less than the annual budget of RT,

1:47:55

yes — and as I already said, that is

1:47:56

the only direct payment. Everything

1:47:58

else requires you to meet

1:48:00

fairly complicated conditions to get it, and

1:48:03

Sobyanin, explaining why they don’t want

1:48:05

to help people, said: ‘Well, we can’t

1:48:09

help everyone. Even if we helped everyone,

1:48:10

the budget would burst.’ And

1:48:13

of course, the outrage was absolutely justified,

1:48:16

and only the laziest person didn’t say he deserved a punch in the face,

1:48:18

over that one,

1:48:21

because at the same time

1:48:23

a truly enormous scandal is unfolding

1:48:26

over the fact that Moscow City Hall, under cover of all this,

1:48:28

has simply poured some gigantic

1:48:30

amounts of money into its favorite paving tiles.

1:48:35

Their favorite curb again: they announced

1:48:37

the purchase of curb stone worth 19

1:48:41

billion rubles. Just compare that again:

1:48:45

10 billion rubles for all the doctors

1:48:50

across all of Russia who are fighting

1:48:51

coronavirus, and 19 billion rubles for

1:48:55

these paving tiles. And as usual, the devil

1:48:59

is in the details: they will be relaying the tiles

1:49:02

in places where they do not need to be relaid.

1:49:04

Not long ago, a piece was published about this.

1:49:07

The outlet Baza, a sort of semi-pro-Kremlin

1:49:10

media outlet, even did a special

1:49:12

investigation on the subject.

1:49:14

There, the first 12 billion that

1:49:17

was allocated needs to be separated out: 12 billion

1:49:20

was allocated for beautification, and 19

1:49:23

billion they allocated for

1:49:24

the purchase of curbs. And about those first 12

1:49:27

billion, Baza even simply

1:49:29

went around the places where they are going to

1:49:31

relay the tiles and found that

1:49:33

the tiles are already there. Look: just in

1:49:35

February and March, in the months when

1:49:37

the active fight against

1:49:38

coronavirus began, the capital awarded

1:49:40

more than

1:49:43

12 billion rubles in beautification tenders. These are the same tiles

1:49:46

they are relaying. Well, here, you can

1:49:48

see the boundary: here are the tiles that

1:49:50

were relaid, and the tiles that were there before. In my

1:49:53

view, the tiles that were already there look

1:49:55

much better. We walked from Tsaritsyno Square

1:49:58

literally about 100 to 150 meters

1:50:01

and came out right here. What is here?

1:50:04

Here, basically, there are concrete tiles

1:50:06

that are also supposed to be replaced under the

1:50:09

terms of the tender. The tiles seem

1:50:10

perfectly fine; it is not even clear what else needs checking.

1:50:12

Well, they are not loose.

1:50:15

They are set solidly in place, look perfectly fine.

1:50:18

What is the problem? Here is a section with

1:50:21

asphalt and curbs that also, under the

1:50:25

terms of the tender, are supposed to be replaced

1:50:27

with new asphalt and new curbs.

1:50:30

So what is wrong with them? The curbs do not

1:50:34

look worn at all; they look excellent. They were replaced

1:50:36

probably a year or two ago, judging by

1:50:37

their appearance. They are granite; they can stand for

1:50:40

centuries. The asphalt is also very good, and in

1:50:44

the end it will turn out that they are once again burying

1:50:47

money in the asphalt, literally. But

1:50:52

they did not spend it on coronavirus or on the elderly. And

1:50:56

this is a Kremlin-linked outlet; they do

1:50:59

decent investigations, but we all

1:51:00

understand that it belongs

1:51:02

to the Kremlin-linked Life News holding.

1:51:04

Even they are outraged. But here we should

1:51:06

not use the word “bury” — in reality

1:51:08

they will steal it, because all of this is being stolen

1:51:11

in plain sight. And within this

1:51:14

big, big scandal that

1:51:16

everyone in Moscow is outraged about,

1:51:18

what can we say about the regions? People write to me:

1:51:19

“Korolyok, please remind Putin

1:51:22

that people need cash, and utility bills

1:51:24

really ought to be canceled for a couple of months.” In other words,

1:51:25

people genuinely cannot pay for

1:51:27

utilities because they have no work, they

1:51:29

have no money. Moscow will spend 31 billion

1:51:33

rubles on this damn beautification program.

1:51:35

At the same time, I recorded a video on Instagram

1:51:38

and said that roughly

1:51:40

about 40 percent would be stolen there. Now I understand

1:51:42

that 80 percent will be stolen, judging by

1:51:45

what an amazing scandal has unfolded

1:51:48

around the specific situation involving Ilya

1:51:50

Yashin and the relaying of tiles at Chistye

1:51:53

Prudy. It is genuinely very interesting,

1:51:56

and it needs to be watched closely. Even Sobyanin

1:51:58

was forced to respond to it

1:52:00

on his website. So, what happened?

1:52:02

A video was posted online

1:52:07

showing how at Chistye Prudy

1:52:09

people were relaying the tiles. Let’s look.

1:52:24

You can see it all — a huge area, simply

1:52:27

right by the Chistye Prudy metro station, and importantly,

1:52:29

they are relaying it there. And if you

1:52:32

live in Moscow or spend time in these places,

1:52:34

you saw that it had already been relaid. And when I

1:52:36

saw this, I immediately grabbed

1:52:39

the phone and started calling Yashin, because

1:52:41

Ilya Yashin heads the municipal council

1:52:44

of the Krasnoselsky district, and the most popular

1:52:47

video on his YouTube channel, which you

1:52:49

should subscribe to,

1:52:50

has a million views. Last year he

1:52:53

recorded it and was absolutely

1:52:55

tearing them apart because

1:52:57

in his area — the Krasnoselsky

1:53:00

district, around Chistye Prudy metro —

1:53:02

they had laid brand-new tiles, and

1:53:05

laid them terribly. Let’s watch a clip from

1:53:08

Yashin’s video from a year ago. “Let me

1:53:11

give you a tour so that you can see with your own

1:53:13

eyes this much-praised

1:53:15

beautification, those very tiles

1:53:17

that cost the Moscow budget

1:53:19

tens of billions of rubles. This is Myasnitskiye Vorota Square,

1:53:22

right in front of Chistye Prudy

1:53:23

metro station.

1:53:24

The tiles here were replaced and laid just

1:53:27

a few months ago.

1:53:28

Look at the condition they are in

1:53:30

now. This is not just negligence —

1:53:35

it is dangerous to walk on these tiles.

1:53:38

The tiles have simply buckled into waves, and this

1:53:40

is happening not just on one small

1:53:42

section

1:53:43

but across the entire square.” A year ago — that is, I

1:53:47

myself recorded this video a year ago — they

1:53:49

relayed the tiles there.

1:53:50

He recorded that video, a scandal broke out,

1:53:52

and they relaid them again, because when the

1:53:55

head of the municipality is walking around, and everyone is walking around, and

1:53:56

everyone can see that the tiles are bad, they have to

1:53:58

redo them. So they laid them twice,

1:54:00

and now we see them doing it a third time,

1:54:03

literally right before our eyes.

1:54:04

During the epidemic, Sobyanin comes out and

1:54:07

says, well, we can't help everyone.

1:54:09

The budget can't take it, he says, and at the same time they

1:54:12

are out there relaying paving tiles and buying

1:54:15

curbstones worth 19 billion rubles

1:54:19

while the whole country is crying out, saying, "I—

1:54:21

there'll be nothing to eat soon." Of course, the lucky ones are those

1:54:24

who work in the public sector and just keep getting their salaries.

1:54:26

Some Rosgvardiya (Russia's National Guard) troops, for example,

1:54:28

do nothing, sit at home, and still get paid.

1:54:30

But not everyone is that lucky.

1:54:32

Some people, you know, are getting paid and still have to

1:54:35

go to work.

1:54:36

People have no money, while these people keep making purchases. I

1:54:39

asked Yashin to record a special

1:54:40

video for our program about what he

1:54:42

thinks about all this right now—about the fact

1:54:44

that in his district they are once again

1:54:46

during a crisis

1:54:47

relaying the paving tiles.

1:54:49

This is Ilya Yashin. Greetings to everyone from

1:54:52

my kitchen, in self-isolation, and

1:54:54

like you, I continue to be amazed by

1:54:56

the outrageous arrogance of Moscow

1:54:58

officials.

1:54:59

A year ago, I filmed a video near the

1:55:01

Chistye Prudy metro station

1:55:02

where the paving tiles had literally buckled up

1:55:05

and it was dangerous to walk there. The video

1:55:08

caused a huge stir—almost a million

1:55:10

views—and the officials sprang into action.

1:55:12

They sent workers, replaced everything, fixed it all, and

1:55:15

overall there were no major complaints about the result.

1:55:16

Then a year passes, I open

1:55:19

social media and see that in this same

1:55:22

place, where just a few

1:55:24

months ago they replaced the tiles, work is underway again.

1:55:26

They've dug everything up and are laying new

1:55:29

tiles again. The question is: why is this being done?

1:55:32

But the problem is that I can't even ask

1:55:34

anyone that question, because under the

1:55:36

self-isolation regime Sobyanin has ordered everyone to stay

1:55:39

at home. I can't go to the square, I can't

1:55:41

demand

1:55:43

that they show me the documents, I can't

1:55:45

talk to the foreman or anyone else.

1:55:47

Under threat of fines and arrests,

1:55:49

we are being forced to stay home. But the regime

1:55:53

of self-isolation applies only to

1:55:55

you and me—it doesn't apply to the workers at all,

1:55:57

even though they live

1:55:59

close together in dormitories and can infect

1:56:01

each other, their acquaintances, their friends.

1:56:04

But they don't care—they have to spend the budget,

1:56:06

and they've completely forgotten about the coronavirus.

1:56:09

Officials forget all about it when it comes to spending

1:56:12

multi-billion-ruble budgets. For you,

1:56:14

there's no money because "the budget will burst," as

1:56:17

Sobyanin says. But for the fat rats in the

1:56:19

housing and utilities department, there's money without limit. I

1:56:22

submitted a request to the prosecutor's office today

1:56:26

right from my home computer

1:56:28

through the prosecutor's office website, but honestly

1:56:30

I doubt there will be any response—well,

1:56:33

at least not a substantive one—because in

1:56:34

cases like this, only

1:56:36

public pressure works. And that's why I urge

1:56:38

everyone to draw attention to what

1:56:41

is happening in the city. It's very important. We

1:56:43

are

1:56:44

being robbed of 30 billion rubles. That's all I have

1:56:50

to say about that. Now, questions from

1:56:52

sponsors—well, I see questions coming

1:56:53

in through Twitter right now.

1:56:55

Alexander writes: "Alexei, do you think

1:56:57

it's right to pay rent for an empty

1:56:59

premises? Will any measures be taken? Will there

1:57:01

be any help for entrepreneurs?"

1:57:03

Someone asks me how to help yourself

1:57:05

during the crisis if the state isn't

1:57:06

helping. It wasn't possible to negotiate a freeze on

1:57:08

part of the utility payments with the landlord,

1:57:10

and with the rent for the premises it's the same

1:57:12

story.

1:57:12

The only way to help yourself is to

1:57:15

put pressure on this government. Listen, they have

1:57:16

an enormous amount of money. Do you know how much

1:57:19

they have now?

1:57:19

The total accumulated assets of the Russian

1:57:23

state, according to the Central Bank, as of this

1:57:26

week, are 17.7 trillion rubles—trillion,

1:57:33

rubles, almost 18 trillion rubles—and we're being given

1:57:36

absolutely nothing. Well, they're not giving us anything

1:57:39

because they simply don't want to.

1:57:42

And if we don't put pressure on them,

1:57:44

if we don't express our outrage, if not

1:57:46

just one person sits here talking for two hours,

1:57:48

but everyone in the country voices their anger, then

1:57:50

first we will force them

1:57:52

to answer, and then we will force them to take

1:57:54

at least some measures. Because, by the way,

1:57:56

after Yashin went after

1:57:58

Sobyanin and posted an open letter on Facebook,

1:58:00

Sobyanin

1:58:01

actually deigned to respond in his own name.

1:58:04

On his website he wrote something like this,

1:58:08

a fairly lively little letter, saying that we

1:58:11

of course must spend money now on

1:58:13

urban improvement projects, because stopping

1:58:15

the process is easy, but restarting it is incredibly

1:58:17

difficult. Of course, it must be incredibly

1:58:21

difficult to restart your money-laundering

1:58:23

process, the one in which out of 31 billion

1:58:25

you steal 28. That must be very hard. But excuse me,

1:58:28

relaying paving tiles—come on. It's just people sitting there,

1:58:31

migrant workers who yesterday were

1:58:33

shepherds, and today they've come here

1:58:35

to lay tiles. They stretch a string line

1:58:39

and lay the tiles on sand along it,

1:58:42

exactly the same way you, or your father, or your

1:58:44

grandfather or uncle, would do it at your

1:58:46

dacha (country house) on the garden paths.

1:58:49

That's exactly how they do it, with the same

1:58:51

quality—or even worse. So don't try to tell us

1:58:52

what kind of complicated process this is.

1:58:54

And this so-called business process of yours—

1:58:57

so difficult? Give me a break.

1:59:00

So now we're just not going to steal billions?

1:59:02

it will stop there, and just imagine, we won’t

1:59:04

relay the paving tiles on the streets

1:59:07

of Moscow for the fourth time, and that will be very difficult too.

1:59:09

It’s a terrible process. We need to put pressure on them.

1:59:11

We need to be outraged by this, we need to just

1:59:14

say it directly: we will never vote for you.

1:59:16

Once the lockdown is over, we will

1:59:19

go out and protest against you, we

1:59:20

will go after your party, United Russia.

1:59:22

That’s the only way. Otherwise, out of these

1:59:25

17 trillion rubles

1:59:28

they’ll keep it for themselves, because

1:59:31

they want to carve it up in exactly the same way,

1:59:33

into little slices.

1:59:34

for paving, for procurement, for something else,

1:59:38

they’ll divide it up like that, just as they

1:59:39

have always divided up the country’s reserves.

1:59:42

In times of crisis, those reserves always turned

1:59:44

into nothing and ended up in the hands of oligarchs, but now

1:59:46

it’s simply a different situation. Here, really,

1:59:49

every one of us has suffered, and the authorities

1:59:51

are not reacting at all, and our old man

1:59:53

for whom this should be an important issue,

1:59:54

I’m probably going to break a record today—more than

1:59:56

two hours for the program—but the old man

1:59:58

has really disappeared, and he’s already behaving

2:00:00

completely, wildly inappropriately. It looks

2:00:03

really strange. It looks, well,

2:00:05

strange and unacceptable, because, well,

2:00:08

this is the biggest crisis of all those

2:00:11

that Russia has faced

2:00:13

during Putin’s presidency. He

2:00:15

came to power, and back then the price of

2:00:18

oil shot up. He always had

2:00:19

money to spare. Now the price of oil has

2:00:22

collapsed, there’s a global crisis, an epidemic, and

2:00:24

we had hoped that now he would

2:00:26

put on his favorite camouflage

2:00:29

jacket—the one that says right here

2:00:31

“Supreme Commander-in-Chief Putin”—and he

2:00:33

would take charge and sort things out.

2:00:36

But what do we see instead? This guy has really

2:00:37

vanished. He hasn’t been seen for two weeks.

2:00:41

First of all, he wasn’t there. In my last

2:00:44

program I didn’t want to talk about it,

2:00:45

because, like everyone else, I noticed that in the

2:00:47

last program, in the previous address, and in the

2:00:50

one before that, he had the same

2:00:53

tie, the same shirt, and even by the

2:00:55

lighting—you could tell. A lot of people wrote that, well,

2:00:57

it was all recorded at once and then released

2:00:59

a week apart. But I didn’t want to

2:01:02

talk about that. But when there are three TV

2:01:05

segments in a row and he’s in the same

2:01:07

setting, it’s obvious it’s the same thing, and they

2:01:09

release it to us a week apart,

2:01:11

telling us that Putin is doing something.

2:01:13

The question is: where is he hiding? Why has the old man

2:01:17

disappeared? Where is his famous toughness?

2:01:20

Why isn’t he—

2:01:20

Well, if he doesn’t want to put on his

2:01:22

military tunic with the words “Supreme

2:01:23

Commander-in-Chief,” then he could at least strip down like

2:01:26

he likes to, bare-chested, get on a horse

2:01:28

and ride off and do something. That’s what we

2:01:30

were expecting.

2:01:31

That’s what they keep telling us all the time—all

2:01:33

the people who love Putin and demand

2:01:35

that he stay on for a 23rd term, because

2:01:37

only he, in a crisis,

2:01:39

whether bare-chested, in a tank, in a mask, or on horseback,

2:01:42

will come running, come galloping, and solve all the problems.

2:01:44

He has really disappeared. Let’s look at the video in which

2:01:48

there are three videos that came out—not 30

2:01:51

seconds apart, but three videos, each released

2:01:54

a week apart—and we were told

2:01:56

that these were different videos filmed

2:01:59

at different times.

2:02:00

But excuse me, you can’t fool us that easily.

2:02:03

Just by the shirt and tie, we can see that this was

2:02:05

all filmed on the same day, all of it shot

2:02:07

within the same couple of hours. Let’s watch.

2:02:09

Right now it is critically important to prevent the threat of

2:02:12

the rapid spread of the disease, therefore

2:02:17

I declare next week a non-working week

2:02:21

with pay preserved.

2:02:24

Dear friends, dear citizens of Russia,

2:02:29

the week that was declared

2:02:31

in Russia is coming to an end

2:02:33

as non-working. Today, at our meeting,

2:02:38

scientists, specialists,

2:02:41

professionals are taking part, whose opinions are

2:02:44

of fundamental importance. After that,

2:02:48

it’s clearly the same videos, filmed on the same

2:02:50

day. They show other meetings too. Here he is,

2:02:52

for example, meeting with the head of

2:02:54

the Ministry for the Development of the Russian Far East, Kozlov.

2:02:57

So it turns out he met with him not at all

2:02:59

Let’s watch nine seconds.

2:03:02

In Transbaikalia, for example, we have a project there

2:03:05

that is being implemented literally by

2:03:08

thousands of people, and they had returned there.

2:03:11

First of all, you can see it’s the same clothes.

2:03:13

Second, this Kozlov is talking to him about

2:03:16

a trip to Transbaikalia. On that

2:03:18

he literally says, “We were there last week.” We go

2:03:20

to the website of the Ministry for the Development of the Russian Far East

2:03:23

and see that he was there on March 13, that is,

2:03:26

a week later this is presented as him

2:03:29

meeting with Putin, and these

2:03:31

pre-recorded bits are being passed off to us now as perfectly

2:03:33

fresh. So Putin really disappeared for two

2:03:35

weeks. He was who-knows-where, and we don’t

2:03:38

understand why—maybe he got sick, or

2:03:40

maybe something is wrong with his head,

2:03:41

maybe he ran off, I don’t know, to Siberia, or

2:03:44

went to some astrologer or to shamans,

2:03:47

or I don’t know what, or went off to

2:03:49

fight in Syria, or went to Italy in a doctor’s suit

2:03:53

to save someone—we don’t understand.

2:03:55

Maybe he’s literally sitting in a basement.

2:03:57

Maybe, like Michael Jackson, he’s living in a

2:03:59

hyperbaric chamber. But this is really some kind of

2:04:01

weird nonsense, and the whole country—all 145

2:04:04

million people—is being humiliated by being shown

2:04:06

old videos as if they were his new

2:04:09

appearance. It’s really strange. I mean,

2:04:14

I mean, I don’t believe in body doubles, I—

2:04:17

I understand that, well, the man really does disappear.

2:04:18

Because he’s into plastic

2:04:20

surgeries, and after every plastic

2:04:22

surgery you need some time to

2:04:24

lie low so the bruises on your

2:04:25

face can fade and all that. We know that, in

2:04:28

principle, he doesn’t really like working, and

2:04:30

would rather swim endlessly in his pool. I

2:04:32

don’t usually push any kind of conspiracy

2:04:33

theories, but here I’m

2:04:36

simply forced to say that yes, Putin

2:04:38

is disappearing in an inexplicable, incomprehensible, and even in some

2:04:41

sense criminal way, given the situation in

2:04:43

the country. He vanishes to who-knows-where, and

2:04:46

everyone needs to talk about this, about the fact that

2:04:47

this is a crisis situation, a crisis situation.

2:04:50

He’s gone. He has taken all, all power in the country

2:04:55

into his own hands. Now he has introduced

2:04:57

constitutional amendments under which he

2:04:59

will have even more power, while everyone else

2:05:01

will have even less power. Well,

2:05:02

if you’ve amassed that much power, then

2:05:04

do your job. But instead, he really disappears,

2:05:06

just vanishes and reappears from who knows

2:05:08

where. But now he has finally surfaced and

2:05:13

made yet another address to the nation.

2:05:16

We were waiting so much, thinking that at last he would

2:05:19

say something, because people are at the breaking point.

2:05:22

People have no money, businesses are going bankrupt, people can’t

2:05:25

pay their utility bills, and most importantly, we

2:05:28

look at the rest of the civilized

2:05:30

normally functioning world: Germany

2:05:33

is giving money to businesses simply

2:05:35

free of charge; in the U.S., people are being given

2:05:37

— the most capitalist of capitalist

2:05:39

countries — direct cash injections

2:05:42

to people, to businesses, to everyone else. There,

2:05:46

in Germany, 20 percent of GDP is being spent on

2:05:48

all this. In other words, all countries that

2:05:50

want to get out of all this with

2:05:51

the fewest losses possible

2:05:52

want to help people because

2:05:54

they understand that if a person today

2:05:56

has no money even for food, then tomorrow it’s not at all

2:05:59

clear what will happen — he may end up

2:06:00

stealing someone’s bag in a store

2:06:02

just to steal some cabbage to feed

2:06:04

his relatives. Nothing good will come from

2:06:06

mass impoverishment. People need to be

2:06:08

supported. Everyone is giving money; here, nothing

2:06:11

is happening. Putin speaks, and as

2:06:13

I already said, effectively the only

2:06:15

direct unconditional payment

2:06:18

is those same miserable ten

2:06:20

billion rubles being given to doctors. Listen:

2:06:23

As for the 10 billion, we have also provided for

2:06:26

additional payments to doctors and

2:06:28

nurses, to medical personnel, for

2:06:31

special working conditions and the increased

2:06:33

workload.

2:06:34

Funds from the federal budget for these

2:06:36

purposes — more than 10 billion rubles — have been allocated

2:06:39

and will be sent to the regions in the near future.

2:06:43

People must receive these payments

2:06:46

on time, without delays.

2:06:49

On time, without delays — as if he really

2:06:52

tore 10 billion rubles from his own heart and gave it away.

2:06:56

And let me repeat once again, as he repeated many times,

2:06:58

so that everyone remembers:

2:07:00

10 billion rubles is half of what

2:07:03

is allocated to RT (Russia Today, the state-funded Russian media outlet),

2:07:05

and three times less than what Sobyanin allocates

2:07:08

right now to buy his idiotic paving tiles

2:07:10

that he has laid

2:07:11

several times already in these very same places.

2:07:13

And 10 billion rubles is what they’re giving to all

2:07:16

the doctors who are now, truly,

2:07:18

working at risk to their lives. Read doctors’ posts

2:07:20

about how they are working right now, there where

2:07:22

they treat coronavirus patients: you put on

2:07:24

a full protective suit, you put on an adult diaper

2:07:27

because you work

2:07:29

a full 8-hour shift and you are not allowed

2:07:32

to leave the contaminated zone, and you are not

2:07:34

allowed to take off the suit. So people

2:07:36

are slogging away in these diapers under the threat of

2:07:39

getting infected and dying, or being seriously

2:07:41

harmed, and for all of them they allocated 10

2:07:43

billion rubles. Everything else, well, there are

2:07:46

similarly ridiculous

2:07:49

amounts. They said they would provide unemployment

2:07:52

benefits increased to a level no

2:07:54

lower than the minimum wage. But excuse me, the minimum wage is

2:07:57

13,000 rubles, and they announced it with such pomp

2:08:01

as if they were really about to give

2:08:03

everyone a lot of money. But first you have to

2:08:06

register, provide a copy of your passport,

2:08:09

present a copy of your work record book

2:08:11

with a dismissal note. But listen,

2:08:13

let’s be honest: we have a huge

2:08:16

number of people who work entirely without

2:08:17

any work record books; they have no dismissal

2:08:19

note. Besides, they weren’t fired —

2:08:21

they were told to take unpaid leave.

2:08:23

Millions of people were told this. They weren’t fired, so

2:08:27

they have no note in any

2:08:30

work record book, and they have no right

2:08:32

to claim the pathetic 19,000 rubles in Moscow and

2:08:35

the pathetic 13,000 rubles in the rest of the country.

2:08:37

And this is all designed so that,

2:08:40

as Putin himself says, they don’t “burn through the reserves.”

2:08:44

That’s the key point. I have a huge

2:08:48

number of questions here from sponsors,

2:08:49

a huge number of questions here from

2:08:52

viewers right now, and all of them are about

2:08:55

whether they will give any help to people at all, and

2:08:57

what needs to be done to make them

2:08:58

give it. Right now, we need to understand very clearly

2:09:01

we need to understand that the strategy

2:09:02

of the government and of Putin is aimed at

2:09:05

not burning through the reserves. That is a direct

2:09:08

quote from Putin, which was recounted to us by the outlet

2:09:11

Znak, because he

2:09:13

said it plainly to the government: here

2:09:15

we have a stash fund, and we must not

2:09:18

give out any money from it. And this

2:09:20

stash fund, let me remind you, is enormous — almost 18

2:09:23

trillion rubles.

2:09:24

I have absolutely no doubt that our

2:09:29

task is to organize right now

2:09:31

a truly mass nationwide movement across Russia

2:09:33

and demand proper measures. Proper

2:09:36

measures mean handing out

2:09:38

money to people right now: 20,000

2:09:41

rubles per adult, 10,000 rubles per

2:09:43

child. If all this drags on into May and

2:09:46

June,

2:09:47

then at least 10,000 each. That is not such a large

2:09:49

sum — 2.3 trillion rubles for April

2:09:53

and another 2 trillion rubles in May–June. Compared

2:09:57

with the 18 trillion rubles

2:09:59

that we have right now, that is

2:10:01

perfectly manageable money. We must provide direct

2:10:03

subsidies to businesses, as they do in

2:10:04

Germany and Austria.

2:10:06

In the United States, in all developed countries, they give

2:10:09

people money. Here, Putin's strategy is clearly to

2:10:12

give nothing at all. So

2:10:13

instead they say, well, we will allow

2:10:17

you for some period of time not to

2:10:18

pay taxes. Fine, but that is only

2:10:20

a deferral. And then, we will allow you not to

2:10:23

pay your loans, and you can, for example,

2:10:25

take out preferential loans to pay

2:10:27

salaries. But in practice, all of this

2:10:29

is surrounded by so many conditions

2:10:32

that you will never get them. You know, guess

2:10:33

how many, in our entire gigantic country,

2:10:36

how many businesses applied to

2:10:38

Sberbank to take out

2:10:41

a preferential loan to pay salaries? Do you

2:10:43

think it was 10,000? 20,000? There are millions

2:10:46

of businesses, right? Out of those millions

2:10:48

of businesses, there are hundreds of thousands

2:10:50

or close to a million suffering, and

2:10:52

you would think at least thousands must have applied for

2:10:53

it. Two hundred. According to Sberbank's official statistics,

2:10:57

for this super-preferential

2:10:59

loan, only 200 businesses applied

2:11:01

because the conditions

2:11:02

are such that you get nothing. Just like when they

2:11:04

announced that we will allow you temporarily not to

2:11:09

pay your mortgage.

2:11:10

And then it turned out that the cap for this

2:11:13

mortgage relief was 1.5 million rubles

2:11:15

you see? But what kind of 1.5 million

2:11:17

rubles — even in the regions, for most

2:11:20

people, of course, mortgage loans are larger

2:11:22

than 1.5 million rubles. You go in

2:11:24

and say, but Putin said it was allowed

2:11:26

that I don't have to pay — and they tell you, no, you can't do that.

2:11:28

If your mortgage is up to 1.5 million

2:11:31

rubles (about $18,000), what kind of apartment

2:11:32

can you buy for $18,000?

2:11:35

We won't even start talking about Moscow. So

2:11:37

they announce some kind of measures,

2:11:38

but all these measures are designed so that

2:11:41

people

2:11:41

do not get paid any money. And that is the authorities' strategy:

2:11:45

not to pay people money. And they will not

2:11:47

pay a single kopeck until we

2:11:51

put pressure on them. And in their reports

2:11:55

they will talk about how, well,

2:11:57

I don't know, someone gave someone else

2:11:59

some tiny useless thing. Just 20 minutes

2:12:01

before the program,

2:12:02

a video from the Ministry

2:12:05

of Economic Development came out — a one-minute clip. They

2:12:07

posted a self-congratulatory video on Twitter about how

2:12:09

all Russians have now united in this

2:12:12

time of crisis and are helping one another.

2:12:14

Let's watch this video.

2:12:16

[music]

2:12:48

Can you imagine what a great achievement for the whole

2:12:51

country — a car-sharing company allocated cars, and

2:12:54

what else was there — an airline credited

2:12:57

100 miles to everyone. How lovely. There it is,

2:13:00

the long-awaited aid that

2:13:02

the Russian government can boast about.

2:13:03

The Russian government is standing right

2:13:06

here, and here is a gigantic

2:13:08

mountain of money that the Russian government is sitting on.

2:13:10

And here, in front of that mountain

2:13:12

of money, stand millions of people saying,

2:13:15

give us something,

2:13:15

like in other countries. You are demanding

2:13:17

that we stay home — give us something.

2:13:20

And they say, what do you mean, money? Do you

2:13:23

realize what you're asking? How about we credit

2:13:25

100 miles to your card? Surely you

2:13:28

have a card. Surely you, dear

2:13:30

Russians, do nothing but

2:13:32

fly around on trips all the time. We

2:13:34

credited you 100 miles — you don't like it? Well,

2:13:37

then how about this piece of news:

2:13:39

one car-sharing company allocated several cars

2:13:42

for ambulances. Let's all applaud

2:13:44

that news. That is exactly how everything works with them.

2:13:47

And now, moving on, they are already

2:13:50

because they do not want to give out money,

2:13:53

people are furious, people are saying that prices

2:13:55

are rising. And of course, immediately the talk started:

2:13:58

United Russia (the ruling political party),

2:13:59

Mishustin has already supported it — let's freeze

2:14:01

prices. Let's watch Volodin, who says

2:14:05

that retail chains are somehow raising

2:14:08

prices and need to be reined in. I'll

2:14:10

stay in the corner because this is a Channel One

2:14:12

video, so that you don't get banned.

2:14:14

It turns out that these retail

2:14:18

chains of ours, especially the biggest ones,

2:14:21

are simply taking away from people what they are now

2:14:24

going to receive in the form of aid,

2:14:27

payments, and additional wages.

2:14:30

I have just been handed a report on

2:14:34

the retail chains Pyaterochka, Lenta, and Magnit

2:14:38

which announced in tenders their desired

2:14:40

purchase price for produce. For

2:14:43

cucumbers, they buy at 27.3 rubles per

2:14:48

kilogram, and then sell them for 140

2:14:52

9.9 rubles. The same

2:14:54

situation exists with tomatoes, the same situation

2:14:57

with other produce as well. We are not even

2:15:00

talking about lemons, and not talking about what

2:15:06

price bracket

2:15:10

ginger is in right now — it has simply shot up twentyfold.

2:15:13

But this lawlessness has to be

2:15:15

stopped, because for some, war is

2:15:19

a mother dear.

2:15:22

You understand, our dear father has drawn

2:15:25

attention to the price of cucumbers. First you

2:15:27

raised taxes, and now you are not

2:15:30

letting cheap gasoline into the country. You

2:15:32

are doing everything to make prices rise.

2:15:34

And what solution do you offer? Let's

2:15:36

freeze prices? Come on. You know, in

2:15:38

Russia and the Soviet Union there was never

2:15:40

anything like freezing prices.

2:15:42

What if it happens that now you

2:15:43

freeze prices, and tomorrow those cucumbers

2:15:45

won't be in the store? Give people money

2:15:47

so they can go and buy those cucumbers,

2:15:49

because even if you freeze prices

2:15:52

for cucumbers, if you don't have money, you

2:15:55

still won't buy them.

2:15:56

Give people money. I repeat, and I will

2:15:58

keep repeating it: as long as this

2:16:00

quarantine continues, I believe this is now

2:16:01

the basic political demand, and it is necessary

2:16:05

to keep talking about it endlessly, of course:

2:16:06

we demand direct payments to the population

2:16:10

for the duration of the quarantine. We demand

2:16:12

that utility charges and housing fees be suspended for

2:16:14

the duration of the quarantine, because if you

2:16:16

want people to stay home—and they

2:16:18

are ready to stay home—

2:16:19

you must give them money from the enormous

2:16:21

reserve fund that already exists

2:16:24

right now.

2:16:25

But they don't even want to talk about that, and

2:16:27

once again they start trying to distract us.

2:16:30

Sorry, but the main highlight of

2:16:33

Putin's address after his mysterious, uh,

2:16:35

mysterious disappearance was that

2:16:37

everyone immediately started fussing over those

2:16:40

Pechenegs and those Polovtsians.

2:16:43

The main joke I saw on the subject

2:16:45

really went like this: we're already sick

2:16:47

to death of Putin endlessly talking

2:16:49

about the Great Patriotic War (the Soviet term for World War II), and we

2:16:51

were waiting

2:16:52

for when he would finally say

2:16:54

what else Russia could be proud of—and Putin

2:16:56

told us that we should

2:16:58

be proud of victory over the Pechenegs.

2:17:00

Let's listen: "Everything passes, and this too shall pass.

2:17:04

Our country has gone through

2:17:07

serious trials more than once. The Pechenegs

2:17:09

tormented it, and the Polovtsians too.

2:17:11

It coped with all of it.

2:17:14

We will defeat this coronavirus infection as well.

2:17:18

Together, we will overcome everything.

2:17:21

Thank you." And this is the response of the country's leader, understand?

2:17:26

A paltry 10 billion rubles (about 100 million USD)

2:17:28

for doctors, loans, and all sorts of support schemes

2:17:31

that aren't really needed.

2:17:32

No help for people—but hey, guys,

2:17:34

remember how we supposedly defended Moscow

2:17:38

from the Pechenegs?

2:17:39

And I thought: but Moscow didn't even exist

2:17:41

back then. Yaroslav the Wise was the prince of Kyiv at the time.

2:17:45

He was dealing with them then—but never mind, let's

2:17:47

not get sidetracked by that nonsense right now.

2:17:48

Let's talk about the Pechenegs instead.

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And as if that weren't enough, it turned out

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of course, almost immediately, that

2:17:55

he stole that strange ending of the speech from

2:17:58

a famous Russian lawyer from the days of

2:18:02

Tsarist Russia, Plevako. But I

2:18:04

noticed the same thing immediately.

2:18:05

First, it's easy to google. Second, when I heard

2:18:07

about it, I thought: my God, I've heard

2:18:09

this about the Pechenegs somewhere before.

2:18:11

Anyone who studies at a law faculty

2:18:14

learns about

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great speeches by various lawyers, and

2:18:19

one of the great speeches

2:18:22

by one of the legendary Russian

2:18:24

lawyers, Plevako, was exactly like this.

2:18:26

The case was that

2:18:28

an old woman stole a teapot worth 30

2:18:31

kopecks, and the state prosecutor

2:18:33

stood up and said: yes, this

2:18:36

teapot may seem trivial, just 30 kopecks, but

2:18:38

the sacred right of private property

2:18:41

is what everything rests on—and then launched into a whole

2:18:43

solemn speech whose point was

2:18:45

that everything rests on private

2:18:47

property.

2:18:48

If we forgive the old woman, then we

2:18:51

will be encroaching on that sacred right, and then

2:18:53

the whole world order will collapse. And Plevako

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stood up—whether this really happened

2:18:58

or it's just a legend—and said: yes,

2:18:59

Rus' endured everything: the Pechenegs, the Polovtsians,

2:19:02

they all tormented it, and the Poles tormented it too, but

2:19:05

if we forgive this old woman for a 30-kopeck

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teapot, then

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Rus' will fall apart and won't survive. After that, according to

2:19:13

according to

2:19:14

the old legend—or perhaps true story—

2:19:16

the old woman was acquitted, and even

2:19:18

that is what he stole—well, borrowed.

2:19:21

He first came up with some nonsense and decided to add some kind of

2:19:24

pompous, solemn flourish that had nothing

2:19:27

to do with the substance of the issue—and even that

2:19:29

he swiped.

2:19:30

And that is genuinely disgusting, really.

2:19:34

I'm sure we will cope with everything, and

2:19:36

we will defeat any Pechenegs and Polovtsians,

2:19:37

because I can see that there are still

2:19:39

106,000 people watching live, and you

2:19:42

have been putting up with me for 2 hours and 20 minutes.

2:19:45

I'm wrapping up our program now, and at the

2:19:48

end I wanted to show you a rather

2:19:51

sad video, actually. It is

2:19:54

Putin's meeting with scientists, and it fits very

2:19:58

well into the pattern of what I've already

2:20:01

shown you today. We had Peskov

2:20:03

wearing antivirus gear, we had

2:20:06

people with icons flying over

2:20:08

Moscow, we had Putin who instead of

2:20:10

helping people talks about some Pechenegs

2:20:14

and Polovtsians, and we have Putin's meeting with

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the best Russian scientists and doctors, and

2:20:21

at that meeting, there was this speaker,

2:20:23

a well-known man, quite a prominent scientist, by the

2:20:27

name of Ivan Dedov. He is a member of the Russian

2:20:29

Academy of Sciences, a very establishment-type

2:20:32

figure. And his son, by the way,

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is Russia’s judge at the European Court of

2:20:37

Human Rights. And you might ask: how

2:20:40

did this scientist, Dedov,

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manage to place his son in the

2:20:45

European Court of Human Rights

2:20:46

as the Russian judge? Because he also

2:20:49

happens to be the academic supervisor

2:20:50

of Putin’s elder daughter,

2:20:54

Maria,

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who is an endocrinologist, and she works at

2:20:59

that very endocrinology institute

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headed by Ivan Dedov himself.

2:21:03

So basically, well, the man is

2:21:06

an establishment insider who knows Putin’s daughter.

2:21:09

A real problem is being discussed — the coronavirus,

2:21:12

and everything else — and really this is

2:21:15

a good moment to, well, I don’t know,

2:21:18

if you want, you can criticize,

2:21:20

but then you should propose

2:21:22

some real measures, what actually needs

2:21:25

to be done for the country. But instead, what does

2:21:28

the man who is supposedly meant to be

2:21:32

part of the elite,

2:21:33

the elite of Russian science, say — someone who ought to say

2:21:36

important, sensible things at this difficult

2:21:38

moment, when all around there is coronavirus, Pechenegs,

2:21:41

and Polovtsians (historical nomadic tribes often invoked in Russian rhetoric). Let’s look. Today the situation is different

2:21:44

for Vladimir Vladimirovich’s team,

2:21:50

for the authorities today what stands out is

2:21:52

self-control and competence. This is very

2:21:56

important. I understand the whole range of problems which, like

2:22:01

the submerged part of an iceberg, the team,

2:22:04

the government, and the president have to solve, but

2:22:09

then you need to come out

2:22:10

to the people and speak to them. And since

2:22:14

Vladimir Vladimirovich addressed them twice, he

2:22:17

found that tone

2:22:22

of conversation

2:22:23

when he speaks to us doctors,

2:22:25

speaks to volunteers, speaks to

2:22:29

young people, speaks to veterans, saying:

2:22:33

let’s do it together; only together can we

2:22:37

resolve this very difficult

2:22:41

situation the country is facing. And at the same

2:22:44

time, in Vladimir Vladimirovich’s words one hears this struggle for

2:22:48

minimizing losses,

2:22:49

above all, of course, for the state and for those

2:22:53

who have found themselves in this situation. But this tone

2:22:57

of truthful, very correct

2:23:01

and tactful conversation resonates with our

2:23:06

hearts. We are in unison with it. The absolute

2:23:10

majority of the population understands this and

2:23:13

is ready, of course, to accept all

2:23:15

the measures so that we can truly

2:23:18

get out of

2:23:21

this situation faster and with fewer losses. You have to admit, that was some shameless boot-licking.

2:23:26

He really licked those boots clean — “this tone of truthful

2:23:29

conversation, very correct, so

2:23:31

tactful,”

2:23:32

“resonates with our hearts” — it seems to me

2:23:35

the saliva from all that licking was flying

2:23:37

so hard that even through the

2:23:39

teleconference it splashed dear

2:23:42

Vladimir Vladimirovich,

2:23:43

who speaks to doctors, speaks to

2:23:45

volunteers, speaks to young people.

2:23:47

How can this grown

2:23:51

man not be ashamed to be such a disgusting lackey?

2:23:55

How can he not be ashamed not to understand that this is

2:23:58

simply inappropriate right now? Fine, you

2:24:01

may be, by your very nature, a [__]. Maybe

2:24:04

you need something from him, or there are

2:24:06

some personal reasons for it, I don’t know,

2:24:09

but understand the sheer

2:24:11

inappropriateness of doing this at a meeting on the problems of

2:24:13

fighting the coronavirus. Just shut up then.

2:24:15

Later, somewhere behind the scenes,

2:24:18

go kiss his hand, lick his little shoes,

2:24:21

run to his daughter at work, I don’t

2:24:23

know, fall down outside her office, scratch at the door

2:24:26

and say, “Masha (diminutive of Maria),

2:24:27

please tell your dad that his words, his tactful

2:24:30

conversation, resonate deeply with my

2:24:32

heart.”

2:24:33

But no, you see, he has to say it publicly,

2:24:35

and make sure everyone hears it. And he listened

2:24:38

to Putin’s lies first. He probably knows

2:24:41

that Putin is deceiving someone,

2:24:42

and yet he keeps saying that your

2:24:44

so truthful conversation so

2:24:46

deeply resonates with our hearts. That is why

2:24:49

I said it was rather sad, and

2:24:51

seeing this endless stream of lackeys

2:24:53

who allow themselves this — supposedly respected

2:24:57

people, members of the Russian Academy of Sciences,

2:24:59

some famous endocrinologist,

2:25:02

they destroy everything, because instead of

2:25:04

a substantive conversation, instead of

2:25:06

discussing the problems — that is, the coronavirus

2:25:08

and the economic crisis, a whole set of

2:25:10

very difficult problems that

2:25:12

we are faced with — instead of honestly discussing

2:25:14

these problems and their solutions, it’s all just

2:25:17

endless “you’re the best, you’re the greatest, you’re the most

2:25:20

wonderful.” He’ll get something for it — he placed his son,

2:25:23

got hold of somebody’s money,

2:25:25

skimmed something off some tender — everything will be fine for him.

2:25:27

And what will we get from all this?

2:25:31

In the end, we’ll get a doctor

2:25:33

who has no protective equipment, and when we

2:25:35

come in for an appointment, who will cough on

2:25:36

us and infect us with the coronavirus.

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Thank you very much to everyone who watched.

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A sad note to end on.

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Thank you very much to everyone who watched.

2:25:44

this gigantic two-and-a-half-hour broadcast.

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I won’t do that again, I promise.

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See you next Thursday. Bye.

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