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Hello everyone. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, and in the studio—

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Alexei Navalny, or rather,

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"a certain individual," as Vladimir

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Putin called me at the Interior Ministry board meeting. He spoke about a number of

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individuals who organize

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unauthorized rallies, and said that these individuals

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must be fought and stopped. So,

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that's all—three times "individuals."

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They're insolent and provocative, so

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there you go: I am insolent and provocative.

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And today I also have a weapon with me. We

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will be talking a lot on our program about

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weapons.

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Here is our weapon. It's this little device—you may have

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seen it with flight attendants or with some

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other people whose job is to count things.

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Because on the 18th, at those elections

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that we do not recognize, we will be counting

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people, and all of our observers will have

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one of these cool devices. And there's also

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an even cooler version—

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an electronic one that somehow fits on your finger

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and counts people. Already

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tens of thousands of people have signed up, and I urge you

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to sign up as well for our

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observation campaign. We are boycotting

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the election, and we are urging everyone not to go, but

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we are going to count those who do come

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so the authorities can't rig things and

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claim that the whole country, supposedly,

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turned out in one great patriotic surge.

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A lot of people will apparently come because they'll be forced to, but

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we'll count them anyway. Today we have

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item number one, item number two, and

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item number three in our giveaway. We are

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raising money to run the observation campaign,

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and those who send the

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largest donations will receive this

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counter with an autograph—this very counter

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signed. And the grand prize is Nastya Rybka's book,

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that very book by Nastya Rybka. We'll talk a little

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about it today, though I can't promise

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Nastya Rybka's signature on it, because she

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has certain problems—she often

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ends up in jail in Bangkok.

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Well, I'll probably sign it for you myself. That would be

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a little strange, but anyway, you can

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ask me questions on Twitter using the hashtag

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#Навальный2017, and I will

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try to answer them.

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Three prizes in our program—sign up

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to be observers.

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A huge number of things happened this

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week—it was genuinely hard

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to choose what to cover, because things happened

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that seemed impossible.

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So impossible that if we had seen

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all this in a TV series, we would of course have said,

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"Come on, what kind of nonsense is this? This can't

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possibly happen—some cocaine in an

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embassy, and a plane belonging to the head—

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the former head of the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service), now

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the head of the Security Council—carrying

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something dubious, or flying off somewhere

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to Bangkok

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to rescue a girl—Nastya Rybka, no less—and

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all of this is impossible to imagine, and yet

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it happened. A disappearing and

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reappearing nephew of Deputy Prime Minister

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Dmitry Rogozin—we'll try to talk about all

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of it. But of course it's impossible

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to start with anything other than our

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grandpa, who reappeared—you remember, in the

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last program he had vanished, and I was looking for him.

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Where had our grandpa gone for a whole week?

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Vladimir Putin.

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He had disappeared somewhere, and now he was back—and

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he came back in a very belligerent mood, because

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at this public appearance of his

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today—his address to the Federal

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Assembly, an annual mandatory

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event—they postponed it.

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It should have been held in 2017, but they held it in

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2018, and staged it with maximum pomp.

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And, really, this was apparently

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the main—probably the only—

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campaign event in which

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Vladimir Putin is taking part. And it was

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right there in the Manege (the exhibition hall by the Kremlin); they packed in

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the maximum number of people. There were two

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giant video screens that

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showed various graphics, and everyone was

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very surprised that for 47 minutes

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Vladimir Putin talked about the successes

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of our defense industry and basically

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gave us a virtual

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tour of new secret types of

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weaponry.

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This is something almost unthinkable in

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Russian politics—even in Soviet

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politics. The Soviet Union and Russia are, of course,

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known for loving to talk

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about weapons and rattle the saber,

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and that's not necessarily bad. I myself

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like parades—they're interesting. But it was impossible

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to imagine Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev

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listing, in his address,

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some tactical and technical

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characteristics of weapons. But that's

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just silly; it's somehow beneath the level. Nevertheless,

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Putin spent 47 minutes talking about it,

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surprising the whole world, and showed us

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some astonishing computer graphics. So let's

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probably start with that: 47

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seconds of Vladimir Putin, President

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of the Russian Federation, presenting

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new weapons—retaliatory weapons. Forty-seven

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seconds.

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The project—well, in this phase we will install

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giant

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—you know, the Moon revolves

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around the Earth like this.

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When the Moon reaches the proper position

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in its orbit, I will destroy the city of

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Washington. As you can see, I have turned the Moon into

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something like a Death Star.

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[laughter]

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This isn’t the video, but you know the one I mean.

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It’s better because, well, first of all,

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the audience listening to it

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looked more respectable

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than those strange people who were sitting in

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the hall today, representing

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the Federal Assembly. Second, actually,

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you’ll laugh, but these

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mock-ups and this computer graphics, this

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what we just saw in this clip from

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the film *Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me*

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looks far more

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convincing than what was shown today

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by Vladimir Putin, because

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well, he really stunned us. By now, you probably already know

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and have heard that there’s already

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a huge discussion on social media that

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basically, Putin has, well, beaten his own

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previous record. Not long ago, in the

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interview with American director Oliver Stone,

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he showed missile strikes by the

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Russian Aerospace Forces, and

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it turned out that it was footage of

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Americans in Afghanistan. Then we were shown

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video game footage passed off as

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some kind of recordings from military

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operations. But today we were shown

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some fragments from a film that aired on

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Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel) in 2007, that is, 11 years

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ago. Channel One showed

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some nonsense back then, and today it was shown to us

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as some kind of prototypes of super-weapons

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that supposedly have absolutely no

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equivalent. Still, let’s take a look, without

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any jokes. It’s 1 minute 52

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seconds, but it’s worth it. And I

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hope this footage captured the

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moment when they show the hall during this whole

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story about the missile, they show the audience, and

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even they are laughing. Let’s watch: 1

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minute 52 seconds of video, I’ll show it

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to you now.

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[applause]

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[music]

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By the way, the provisional names of these two

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new types of Russian strategic weapons,

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the global-range cruise missile

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and the unmanned underwater vehicle,

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have not yet been chosen. We are awaiting suggestions on the

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Ministry of Defense website.

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I was watching all this and thinking—one

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thought was in my head: Lord, Lord,

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please let our achievements in the field of

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weaponry be at least a little better than our

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achievements in computer graphics.

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Because, well, the computer game

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I played when I was still in school

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looked better than all of this, and

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well, well, well—it’s even a little embarrassing

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to look at all this. Already now I can see in the

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press that comments have appeared from

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various scientists and physicists, very

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prominent ones, who are simply laughing at

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what Putin is saying about some kind of

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nuclear-powered missile. I think that

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in the near future we’ll hear many more

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sarcastic comments of that

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kind.

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What I wanted to say is this: I read that

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quite a lot of people

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interpreted these statements,

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these belligerent, strange

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computer videos, as a kind of

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preparation for war, or that

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Putin’s rhetoric is going to move into a

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practical stage and we’ll see the start of

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a new war, a new Cold War with the United States,

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or a new arms race will begin, or

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something else like that will happen. It seems to me

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that it’s nothing like that at all. No new arms race

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can begin, because

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unfortunately, Putin’s Russia does not

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produce anything. Everything we have is

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still the legacy of the Soviet Union, no matter what

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Putin may say. During his years in power, we

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have ended up with absolutely nothing. We aren’t even capable of producing

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a calculator now, and all

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our so-called high technology is all Chubais-style stuff (a jab at Anatoly Chubais, a Russian reformer/business figure), like

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these smartphones, phone cases

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that don’t exist, that exist only

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virtually.

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At some exhibition, when

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they show a single prototype and then

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talk about it on television, then apparently

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that means the technology exists. In real life, none of

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this exists. I am convinced that the main reason

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why Putin talked so much about these

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weapons, and why

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he showed all these videos, is

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that this is the only subject on

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which he can lie with impunity.

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Because, really, listen—what can he

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tell you? Every time he talks

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about successes in healthcare, well,

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you laugh, because you go to those hospitals.

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How can anyone convince you that

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healthcare has improved? It’s impossible.

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As for education—

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you laugh, because you or your children go to

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school. You know what it’s like. You can’t be fooled.

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Security, good roads, economic

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development—but today Putin once again

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said that they would ease the pressure on

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business owners. He has been saying this for 18 years,

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every year, and every year he says it

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several times. But everyone understands that it is

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complete nonsense, and it’s impossible even to lie

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convincingly. But when it comes to weapons,

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you can spin all sorts of tales about how we have

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these kinds of devices,

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but we won’t tell you about them—that you can do.

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You can still talk about some

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top-secret weapons that

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are already in service, and that means we’ll

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defeat everyone, crush everyone, and all that.

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You can lie about that as much as you want.

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It’s impossible to disprove, because to

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any refutation you make, well, you say

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Well, listen, all Russian physicists

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say that right now no kind of

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nuclear-powered rocket is possible, because

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that would have had to be preceded by

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decades of development, and

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you all know that such developments did exist

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but they ended back in the 1950s.

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But then they tell you: this is just a very

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secret project, you know, it's so, so

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secret that even those physicists

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don't know about it. It was supposedly developed at

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the secret Omega facility

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so just trust us. That's what

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all this is for. There won't be any

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arms race, nothing like that. What there will be is

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endless lies, and that

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has, in fact, already begun. This

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absurd statement that we have

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a super-weapon, and it doesn't even have

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a name yet, so anyone interested, please take part

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in the contest to name the

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super-weapon. Putin announced this

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billboard-style appeal—you just heard it in that clip.

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And already Margarita Simonyan is rushing in and saying,

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"I've got it: the rocket should be called Volodya"

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"I'm entering this contest—let's

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call the rocket Volodya." And then they'll

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say, well no, naming it after Volodya is immodest,

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let's give it some other name, but then

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its unofficial name will still be Volodya, and there'll be

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a vote. And some kind of laser

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system doesn't have a name either, and they need

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to come up with one, and there'll be

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voting, and there'll be scandals, and there'll be

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discussions, and there'll be this whole

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endless fuss around

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some supposed weapons. A bit later we'll

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talk about Mr.

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Rogozin, not only Russia's failures in space but also

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unfortunately the failure with thermal imagers. But

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everything we can actually assess, we

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see that Putin's economy has failed at

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everything. Putin's entire

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way of governing the state has failed at

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everything, including in the defense sector.

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The only thing they know how to do is PR, and already

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Volodin—look at him, the legend is already

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growing instantly.

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So, about this super-weapon, it turns out

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Volodin has spent the whole day on the super-weapon theme, and

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Volodin, the former deputy head of

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the presidential administration, now

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the speaker of the State Duma, has already declared

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that, you know, Putin personally took

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part in developing the super-weapon. Well,

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good Lord, it's just ridiculous.

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But nevertheless, the myth lives on.

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Wait a little longer and we'll learn that he was

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a master designer, and that when one

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engineer made a mistake, Putin came over and pointed it out

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and said, "You know, you've calculated this incorrectly here

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because back when I was in school

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the KGB taught me in math class, and I found

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the error in your calculations." And then the engineer

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and everyone applauded him, and only

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thanks to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

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did the rocket fly exactly to its target. This is not

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a joke—that's how it will be. Well, in North

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Korea that's exactly what happens. At their

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parades

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they literally haul mock-ups

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of this or that weapon around in order

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to show North Koreans

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what powerful weapons they have. In North Korea

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they air reports saying that

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the North Korean national football team

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or whoever else has become world champion

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even though they didn't even compete anywhere.

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Of course, all this won't be on quite the same

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scale as in North Korea. You and I

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will laugh at it, but a significant

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number of people—well, they'll have this nonsense

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fed to them. So this is not an arms

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race, and it's not a new Cold War.

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It's just a load of nonsense from a man

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who has completely wrecked and

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failed at everything

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and can now only lie about some

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amazing secret developments. Let me

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remind you that today we have

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we are raising money for election monitoring, and we have

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three prizes. Our weapon is far more

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powerful than Volodya's rocket: it's this

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counter. At the very least, the presidential administration and

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Putin himself are clearly much more afraid of this

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thing than they are of

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any weapon. That's exactly why they are so

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hysterically driving up turnout. Svetlana

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Lazovskaya asks me how

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to resist people being herded to

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polling stations under threat of expulsion

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or dismissal. Just don't go. No one is going to

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expel you, no one is going to fire you. How

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could they possibly fire you for not going

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to a polling station? It's that kind of threat—

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just a figure of speech. In reality they can do

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nothing to you. Just don't go. Ideally,

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you go up to the person

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who is trying to herd you there and say,

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"You know, I'm actually in the opposition, I'm against

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these elections, I'm not going," and I assure you, they'll

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leave you alone immediately. They'll leave you alone, no one

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will want to mess with you. You

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can also just nod along and

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do absolutely nothing. March 19 will come

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and they'll forget all about it, and in general

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no one will care anymore. So just

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don't.

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Don't go. So, Obormot 2018 writes that he

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knows the names of several people

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who are currently organizing carousel voting (multiple voting by bussed-in voters).

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Well, for 1,000 rubles for themselves, 1,000 rubles

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for the carousel voters—they've already recruited about 200

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people. But of course, not a single election in

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Russia has ever gone without fraud,

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so this time there will be fraud as well.

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There will be ballot stuffing for Putin too, although it's not

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really that necessary—they mainly need it for turnout.

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ballot stuffing

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So, guys, that’s why you should join

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us — there’s a link in the description of this video

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to sign up as election observers.

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We’ve already received 2,400 rubles (about $25), and there is already one contender

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for our prizes. Sign up as

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observers in order to catch these

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carousel voters — they’ll be out in huge

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numbers, especially in certain regions:

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Kemerovo, Tambov Region, Tatarstan,

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Bashkortostan — they simply can’t do anything there without fraud and falsified additions to the vote totals.

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They can never do anything there

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without that, so that’s where they’ll do it first.

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Dmitry asks how many training courses on

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election observation you’ve organized and how to take them.

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So, we run observer training courses at

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our campaign offices. Go to the public page of our headquarters

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in your region, and you can sign up for

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the courses. But mainly we try to make it so

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that being an observer is easy. This

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time, observing is easy because we are

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primarily tracking turnout, so

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don’t be afraid.

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Don’t be afraid — sign up. In fact,

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from my personal experience, I’ve been

19:08

an observer at polling stations many times.

19:09

What you really need there is, well, not exactly nerve,

19:13

not brazenness, but rather the ability

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to stand up to the authorities when they

19:18

try something. It doesn’t happen often, but if they

19:21

try to throw you out or somehow

19:23

push you into a corner, you need to say: no,

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I’m not leaving, I’ll stand right here and

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press my clicker, counting every

19:29

ballot. That’s the main quality

19:31

of observers, along with knowing the law. So, well,

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let’s talk after all about how such

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astonishing things

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happen in our country — that when we

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discuss what’s happening and politics in

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our country, we end up

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having to discuss cocaine, because

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two weeks ago in Russia there erupted

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an absolutely enormous

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scandal, of course.

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A scandal on such a scale that, really,

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the entire leadership of the Ministry of

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Foreign Affairs

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and the leadership of the Russian security services

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should resign. Unfortunately, that

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is not happening. But in general, the situation

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deserves extraordinary attention.

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400 kilograms of cocaine were found at

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the embassy in Argentina, and in fact

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somehow this did not make it into the Russian press.

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Argentine newspapers were writing about it until

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a remarkable person named

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Maxim Mironov brought it up. He helps us a great deal

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in the election campaign. He has

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written many articles; he is a fairly well-known

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economist and mathematician. He works at

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a Spanish business school, and he lives in

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two places: part of the time he lives in

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Spain, and part of the time he lives in

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Argentina. It so happens that his children

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attend the school at the embassy,

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and, as it happens, it was in

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the premises of that school that the

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drugs were found. And Maxim Mironov,

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understanding what an embassy is

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and how strict access control is there,

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which is quite strict, after reading all

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the Argentine newspapers and all the papers that

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wrote about it, wrote a post that

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essentially brought the story of this

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cocaine into the Russian media space.

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Mironov wrote some fairly simple and

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obvious things: that of course this was not the first

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time;

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that of course this was obviously a

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standing channel for drug trafficking

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through diplomatic channels via the Russian embassy

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into Russia; and that

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this could not have happened without the involvement of

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diplomats and security service officers. Then

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it all started: Mironov was

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denied by the Foreign Ministry and denied by the embassy.

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And the denials were very characteristic:

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they started dragging his name and his wife’s name through the mud,

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saying that he was the leader of some kind of

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Argentine

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opposition cell,

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that he was generally a very bad person, that his wife

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had supposedly fallen out with someone somewhere

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over money — in other words, they dumped a pile of

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gossip. Then not only the Russian embassy

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in Argentina, but the entire Russian Foreign Ministry

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started denying all of this, and in particular

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responding to Mironov’s statements. It was very interesting to watch.

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I asked

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Maxim Mironov himself today,

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we called him on Skype, and we have

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literally two minutes of what he thinks

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about this whole

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scandal, and about the position of the Russian

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Foreign Ministry — why they are so actively

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denying him. Let’s listen to Mironov.

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As for the cocaine scandal, this whole

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story began on Thursday, if memory serves,

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in Moscow,

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with a report in the Argentine newspaper *Clarín*

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saying that 400 kilograms of cocaine had been found

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at the Russian embassy, and very quickly

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it got thousands of views, and so on, and

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there was complete silence from the Russian Foreign Ministry.

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Then there was an official comment, a standard one,

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basically saying that the cocaine belonged to a former

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former

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technical employee, and that

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this was a successful operation. But if you start

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looking into it, it becomes clear that

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it wasn’t just one technical employee involved.

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certain

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And within that framework, well, I simply

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wrote down some facts myself,

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and some conclusions based on my own

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experience, since my children attend the embassy school,

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and apparently I hit the mark very precisely.

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it turns out I was right, and that is exactly what caused

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the hysteria, and the further it goes, the worse it gets

23:56

I was right on this point; you can see it in every

23:59

Kovalchuk came out and started saying that

24:01

the poor guy was transporting coffee in a private jet that

24:03

costs—well, I happen to know roughly how much it costs

24:05

again, it costs at least 300 euros

24:09

I don't know of any coffee that costs 1,000

24:11

dollars per kilogram—there simply isn't any such coffee

24:13

that would justify even

24:15

sending a little plane out for it, let alone

24:20

the fact that they are all essentially admitting to

24:22

smuggling—whether it's cocaine, cognac,

24:25

or coffee, if it's brought in without customs clearance, that means you are using

24:27

a diplomatic status as a cover for smuggling

24:29

any ordinary person understands that

24:32

no one is going to

24:34

go to such lengths over coffee that doesn't even grow there

24:37

they do make cognac there, but in general, what are you

24:44

really chasing after?

24:46

It seems to me that one of the main

24:48

pieces of evidence that, after all,

24:50

senior officials

24:51

of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were involved in

24:54

this drug-smuggling operation involving Russia

24:56

is the astonishing way they lie

24:59

so brazenly. But in general, Zakharova and

25:02

all these people basically lie in

25:04

every sentence—they do not speak

25:05

any truth

25:06

ever. But now, interestingly, in fact

25:09

it's worth looking at what their real dialogue is

25:12

They are not arguing with Mironov; they are already

25:16

arguing with the Argentine police, because

25:18

they claimed it was a lie that

25:22

the drugs were transported out on the plane on

25:25

which Security Council Secretary

25:27

Patrushev flew, saying it was a fake

25:29

photograph, after which the Argentine

25:31

police said: here is the video recording

25:34

These are case materials; this is not a photograph, but a

25:36

screenshot from the video recording, and

25:38

and now we know for a fact that on

25:40

Patrushev's plane, somewhere there sat

25:42

Patrushev, and somewhere nearby with him

25:44

there were 400 kilograms of cocaine. We do not know

25:48

whether he had anything to do with it or not

25:49

whether the delegation of FSB officers (Russia's Federal Security Service) was using it or not

25:52

whether they were sniffing cocaine or not, but the fact

25:54

is that Patrushev's plane

25:57

was carrying this cocaine. They claimed that

26:01

the Russian Foreign Ministry said that this involved

26:03

only some technical staff

26:05

and that no real

26:07

diplomats were involved, after which

26:09

the Argentine police leaked wiretaps

26:11

from which it is absolutely obvious that

26:13

diplomats were involved in all of this

26:16

It is now clear that the Russian ambassador did not

26:19

just suddenly, on his own initiative,

26:21

come forward and say something—the Argentine

26:23

police tracked the shipment precisely by

26:26

seeing how cocaine was being brought into the

26:29

embassy. After that, under the pressure

26:31

of such facts, the Russian ambassador was

26:33

forced to acknowledge it. By the way,

26:36

that tells you quite a lot about the ambassador

26:38

But in reality, unfortunately, of course

26:41

we do not know, and apparently under this regime we

26:43

will not find out what really happened. We

26:47

simply have several facts that

26:49

seem impossible to refute

26:51

First, Yevgeny Roizman said something absolutely correct about this

26:53

matter

26:55

This was obviously not the first shipment

26:57

If it had been the first shipment, there would have been

26:59

one kilogram, or two kilograms, maybe 10

27:02

kilograms—but no one is going to

27:05

test a route with 400 kilograms

27:08

of cocaine worth tens of millions

27:10

of dollars. Second, this of course could not

27:14

have happened without the involvement of

27:17

high-ranking diplomats

27:18

and senior embassy officials

27:19

because, well, it is impossible

27:22

to just carry it in under a coat—there were 12 suitcases

27:25

Anyone who has ever been in an embassy

27:28

any embassy, including a Russian one, has seen

27:30

what security measures are in place

27:33

You cannot even bring in a mobile phone

27:35

everything is scanned, and yet these

27:38

suitcases were moving around everywhere

27:40

Obviously, the plane on which

27:43

the head of the Security Council apparatus

27:45

or the Security Council secretary flies—but

27:48

that is probably not the kind of plane on

27:50

which you can bring absolutely anything. If

27:52

you can bring aboard a suitcase full of cocaine, then

27:55

you could bring a bomb aboard too. There were

27:56

twelve such suitcases—400 kilograms

27:59

Besides, let's look at the other

28:01

side of this. After all, 400

28:04

kilograms of cocaine, even for a city as large as

28:06

Moscow, is, I don't know, half a year's

28:09

consumption, or several months' worth

28:11

of consumption. So on this end, in

28:13

Moscow, there must be a huge

28:16

distribution system

28:17

You are not just going to transport

28:20

400 kilograms if you cannot

28:22

move them here. If this was a route through which

28:26

dozens of kilograms or hundreds of

28:29

kilograms were passing, that means here in Moscow

28:31

there is some kind of extensive

28:35

drug-mafia network for selling this cocaine. And

28:39

when officials of the Russian Federation

28:42

from the security services say that

28:44

they arrested two people—well then, two

28:48

people? Where is everyone else, then?

28:51

It turns out one person was arrested at the

28:54

embassy, one person is somewhere on the run in

28:56

Germany, and two other people

28:58

were arrested here who were supposed to

29:00

receive it. It all looks as though

29:04

the Russian authorities—well, of course, probably, I

29:09

hope Putin was not involved in this, and

29:11

that would be strange—but some

29:13

high-ranking diplomat and staff members

29:15

the intelligence services organized such a large-scale

29:18

drug mafia, and when they were forced to

29:21

shut it down, well, yes, they arrested four people

29:23

because if this had been

29:24

a normal police operation, they would have needed

29:27

to catch everyone who was supplying

29:30

the cocaine — Argentina is responsible for that part — but

29:33

once it was brought here, presumably it should have been delivered under

29:36

the control of the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service) to

29:38

the major dealers, and then those major

29:41

dealers, at some warehouse where they

29:44

store other things too, where there should have been

29:46

some kind of packaging operation — well, we’ve seen it in movies

29:49

at least, and in reality all the viewers

29:50

of this program have only seen this in movies

29:52

how all this gets distributed, at least

29:55

through medium wholesale or large wholesale channels

29:58

but still, nobody writes

30:01

on the dark web, “a suitcase of cocaine for sale” — no,

30:04

it’s sold in batches, portions of 100

30:06

grams, 50 grams, well, maybe by

30:08

the kilogram — so there must have been somewhere

30:10

some kind of lab where it was somehow

30:12

what do they call it — diluted or

30:14

mixed or packaged — why was none of that

30:17

raided? It wasn’t raided because

30:20

they themselves were organizing it. Here are some frequently

30:22

asked questions and objections.

30:24

Well, it seems kind of stupid — why would they do this?

30:27

These are people who can simply

30:30

steal from the state budget, so why get involved in heroin too?

30:31

That would be stupid on the part of

30:34

officials, to engage in smuggling

30:36

heroin and cocaine — or heroin, I don’t know

30:39

what exactly they’re transporting there. Listen, but siphoning off

30:44

money from the tax service

30:46

and buying houses in Dubai with that money, and then

30:50

killing lawyer Magnitsky (Sergei Magnitsky, the Russian anti-corruption whistleblower) who

30:53

exposed that scheme — wasn’t that stupid too?

30:57

And all the other things, from the war in

30:59

Ukraine to the downed airplane, and those

31:03

Wagner people who tried to

31:05

storm an oil facility guarded

31:07

by Americans, where they were killed, and

31:10

now we’ve disowned them —

31:11

wasn’t that stupid? So these people

31:14

who are in power now are driven

31:18

only by greed and avarice, and

31:20

further down, at different levels — someone at

31:22

Gazprom may be stealing, some people in

31:24

the media — well, those lower down also want their

31:26

million dollars somehow, and some

31:29

FSB guys

31:30

handling embassy security

31:32

or with Patrushev (Nikolai Patrushev, senior Russian security official), who travel the world with him,

31:34

they also want to get a million

31:36

dollars, and they want to grab it however

31:39

they can. On cocaine? Sure, no problem, on

31:42

cocaine — because who’s going to do anything to us?

31:45

We are the power here. And they were right, weren’t they?

31:47

Look, they didn’t bust any drug mafia.

31:50

They arrested two people, and one of them

31:53

has already said that this was an American

31:57

provocation, and the officially accepted

32:01

versions being discussed here are things like

32:03

coffee, or cigars, or something else — right,

32:06

Mironov said it’s simply laughable

32:08

to discuss whatever kind of

32:11

coffee or whatever kind of

32:12

cigars — you’re not going to charter a plane

32:14

for tens of thousands of dollars to bring in

32:17

coffee or cigars. That’s ridiculous. So it seems to me

32:21

an absolutely indisputable fact

32:23

that this very drug mafia existed

32:26

and was being covered up or organized

32:29

by intelligence officers and Foreign Ministry staff.

32:31

Maybe at some point it started as

32:33

an operational game: they found

32:36

a drug mafia, they infiltrated it, and

32:38

then, after some number of years,

32:40

they were supposed to shut down the whole

32:43

network. But they infiltrated it and realized that, well,

32:47

there was cash — here’s a million,

32:49

there’s another million — and gradually they simply

32:51

put this drug network to work for themselves.

32:53

And when the Argentines started saying, well,

32:56

let’s finally do something, after all this had been

32:58

discovered a year earlier, let’s move already

33:00

and expose it — they didn’t expose it. Why would they?

33:02

It was bringing in money. That’s why I

33:05

absolutely do not rule out — in fact,

33:08

I am convinced — that none of this could have happened

33:10

without the Foreign Ministry and without the FSB, without

33:13

the leadership, without generals and ministers

33:17

and deputy ministers. The fact that our Foreign Ministry is mired in this

33:20

is absolutely disgusting.

33:23

It’s very revealing, by the way. You may

33:25

remember that I once did

33:26

not even an investigation — it wasn’t an

33:28

investigation, just a piece based on the American

33:30

press, which wrote when our

33:32

diplomats in the U.S. were caught cheating on

33:35

insurance claims. Again, it seemed like,

33:37

well, idiots — why were you doing this?

33:39

As diplomats in the U.S. — in the U.S., obviously,

33:42

you are under constant surveillance. It’s the most

33:45

risky country from the standpoint of

33:46

any kind of cheating or illegal side income.

33:48

Nevertheless, dozens of embassy

33:50

employees were cheating on insurance claims,

33:52

making a few thousand

33:54

or tens of thousands of dollars from it. They

33:56

did it there; with heroin, the same thing, and with cocaine

34:00

they can do the same and did do the same, unfortunately.

34:02

What can you say?

34:04

Degradation, degradation. Roge writes to me:

34:08

“The missile should be called ‘Pensions.’” Well yes, that is,

34:10

the missiles should be named

34:13

‘Instead of Pensions.’ On the website of the Ministry of

34:15

Defense, after all,

34:15

they announced that there is a vote underway on their site.

34:17

Go there and name the

34:19

missile ‘Instead of Pensions.’ I think that

34:21

would be very popular.

34:22

Let me remind you that today we are giving away three

34:25

items: two tally counters

34:28

that will help — we’ll sign them and

34:31

reserve them — they’ll help election observers count.

34:34

people in the by-elections on the 18th, and

34:39

Nastya Rybka's book, which Nastya Rybka

34:41

won't sign, but I will sign it, by the way.

34:44

Speaking of which, let's talk about Nastya Rybka then.

34:45

I've already mentioned it, but I'll say a couple of words because

34:49

I feel a certain responsibility.

34:53

There are a lot of jokes about this.

34:55

There are also a lot of conspiracy theories about it

34:56

because there can't help but be.

34:59

Conspiracy theories, because it was the very same

35:02

"cocaine plane" that Patrushev

35:05

used to bring here either cocaine or

35:08

flour disguised as cocaine, or something else entirely.

35:10

It was exactly the same plane, with the same

35:12

Patrushev, that suddenly flew to Bangkok

35:15

when this whole situation there began with

35:17

Nastya Rybka, thanks to Instagram,

35:21

through which the investigation was released

35:24

about oligarch Deripaska and Prikhodko

35:26

who was sailing with him on a yacht, all together

35:29

with this Nastya Rybka. And now it has been announced that

35:31

they will be deported—and deported are Nastya Rybka,

35:36

this Alex Lesley, their sex coach,

35:39

they are being deported to Russia. There are plenty of jokes,

35:41

about this, but I, without

35:46

but without any snickering, I think that

35:48

of course, if they are deported to Russia, then

35:50

they are in danger. This Les-

35:53

ley spoke with Kira; we have 36 seconds.

35:57

They are literally being taken from one

36:00

sort of prison and deportation facility to

36:02

another prison, and journalists gave them a

36:04

phone; over Skype he said a few

36:06

words. Let's listen—three seconds, look.

36:46

This really does look very strange.

36:48

You can talk about whether

36:49

he went there by chance or not by chance, whether he

36:51

went to rescue someone else or not—

36:53

but listen, these people, sex coaches,

36:56

were arrested in Thailand. That already sounds

36:58

a little absurd. Thailand is a rather

37:01

specific country,

37:03

with effectively legal prostitution,

37:05

countless sex bars, sex

37:08

shows, and so on—and suddenly these people are arrested

37:11

for some kind of sex seminar.

37:13

That hardly sounds believable. Then they

37:16

are, for some reason, not released on bail,

37:18

the appeals for bail go nowhere, and then they are

37:19

again

37:20

detained, their visas are canceled, and they are

37:23

told that they will be deported to

37:25

Russia, even though Rybka is a citizen of Belarus,

37:28

and many other

37:30

surprising things are happening. They are being moved from

37:33

one place to another, but they say that

37:35

they have some kind of

37:36

kompromat (compromising material) on Trump, Manafort, whoever,

37:39

you like. This is already in all the world's

37:42

news outlets—I saw a CNN report about them.

37:45

And even if the things they are saying now—

37:50

the claims that they

37:54

know certain things about American

37:57

politics—even if they are making it up and

37:59

inventing it—most likely they are inventing it,

38:01

yes, but they are doing it to save

38:03

their own lives, simply because, well,

38:05

it's more or less clear why they want to

38:09

take them to Russia: they want to bring them somewhere,

38:11

I don't know, to a police station or

38:14

just to a safe house,

38:16

hook wires up to them, and then, you know,

38:18

turn that little telephone machine,

38:20

beat them with electric current until they

38:22

record a video saying that

38:24

State Department agent Navalny bribed us

38:26

to slander

38:28

Deripaska and Prikhodko, or that all of this

38:30

was made up, that there was no yacht at all,

38:32

something like that. That is obviously what

38:35

the Russian Federation expects from them.

38:37

So I really do, in fact,

38:39

believe they are in danger. They are

38:41

not my heroes by any means.

38:44

I have no

38:50

admiring attitude toward them, but in this

38:53

sense, of course, I think that they should not

38:55

be handed over to the Russian Federation.

38:56

They obviously will receive no fair justice there,

39:00

but we need

39:02

to follow their fate, because overall

39:04

this scandal is, of course, very important for

39:07

understanding how power is structured. I

39:09

still want to remind everyone that if you

39:13

are discussing Rybka, then please discuss

39:15

Prikhodko along with her; please discuss

39:17

Deripaska as well, because this

39:19

is a story about monstrous corruption,

39:22

a story of monstrous corruption

39:25

that was witnessed by a young woman

39:28

who worked in escort services and wrote some kind of

39:31

little book about it—and for that, for having been

39:34

a witness to all of this, they are now hunting her down.

39:37

Aha, Putin V.V. donated 10,000 to us.

39:40

He clearly wants to get this book

39:42

signed not by Rybka, but by me.

39:44

So anyway, our state, instead of

39:47

dealing with Prikhodko,

39:49

sends planes in order to

39:51

hunt down this unfortunate

39:52

Nastya Rybka. Today is Cat Day, apparently,

39:56

and there is also a cat behind me. I send

39:58

my regards to the cat.

40:00

Behind me, Voda is sitting in our window.

40:03

Greetings to all cat owners.

40:05

So, 21 Green writes: tomorrow the film

40:09

**He Is Not Dimon to You** turns one year old. And that is

40:10

true—one year ago we released the investigation

40:12

**He Is Not Dimon to You**.

40:14

And yet it feels as though ten years have already

40:16

passed; many different things have happened,

40:19

but the main thing did not happen: Medvedev

40:21

remained in power. Putin has already said that

40:24

Medvedev should continue as prime minister

40:25

after his re-election.

40:27

After his reappointment, essentially nothing changed for you.

40:29

Only we got dragged through the courts here; they

40:32

seized our equipment and dispersed people at

40:35

at protest rallies, so, well, a year has passed

40:37

and we need to understand that if we haven’t

40:39

achieved all this in a year, we must

40:41

keep pushing forward, because it’s impossible

40:43

to just put up with all of this. So, Yelena

40:46

Yatsenko writes: “Alexei, the MFC (multifunctional public services center) is herding people to

40:48

Luzhniki (a major Moscow stadium) for the concert on March 3. I’m planning to go. They say

40:50

you have to check in three hours before it starts,

40:52

at the beginning and at the end, and then they’ll give you

40:54

time off,” writes Yelena, with a smiley face.

40:57

You can clearly see it’s bought-and-paid-for. What I like is that they break up

41:00

the illusion for me — and I like that. But

41:03

at one time, friends, I saw it differently. To me,

41:05

all mass rallies of any

41:08

significance — if there are

41:10

more than 1,000 people at any event

41:12

in support of the authorities, that means they were rounded up

41:14

either for money, or for time off, or

41:17

simply forced to go. That always happens. And

41:20

on March 3, we’ll once again see this dreary

41:22

spectacle.

41:23

When work collectives start marching in, everyone

41:26

will be checking in. You need to document all of it,

41:27

record it all, expose it all,

41:30

record audio, record video,

41:33

upload it online. This is the best, the perfect

41:36

example that there is no such thing as 80 percent — not

41:39

a damn chance. It exists

41:42

only in a vacuum; it does not exist in

41:44

real politics. And since we’re talking about this,

41:46

let’s move on to the ratings.

41:51

This is quite interesting for us, because

41:53

today we have Moscow’s ratings. It’s the

41:59

main city for candidates, especially those

42:03

with a democratic orientation. But

42:05

it is a federal subject with the largest

42:07

number of voters — 10 percent

42:09

of the country’s population lives here — and in

42:11

many ways, how Moscow votes

42:13

will determine the outcome of the election. And many believe

42:16

— we published polls, and you saw

42:19

the polling figures —

42:20

that all the candidates except Putin are getting

42:22

very little. And there was a common objection:

42:24

“Well, Moscow will change everything. You’re not measuring Moscow.”

42:27

Moscow is very hard

42:28

to measure. Muscovites — our sociologist, and

42:32

the head of our sociological

42:33

service, was cursing Muscovites in the strongest

42:35

terms, because of course no one here

42:37

wants to talk about anything, and they immediately

42:39

tell everyone to get lost. Muscovites are brazen and secretive.

42:41

But nevertheless, thanks to volunteers

42:45

who had to serve as a logistical center,

42:47

we conducted quality polling, surveyed

42:49

a sufficient number of people so that later

42:51

we could weight the results by demographic groups

42:53

and do everything properly. And now I want

42:56

to tell you what

42:59

the voting results in Moscow are likely to be.

43:01

Let’s look at slide number one. If

43:08

we imagine that the election were held

43:10

next Sunday, which of these

43:11

politicians would you vote for? You can see

43:13

the red is Moscow, and the blue is

43:16

the nationwide poll. Let’s just

43:19

look right away at the very last line

43:22

in the second column: you can see that in Moscow, “won’t say / undecided” is

43:25

significantly higher than in

43:29

the rest of Russia. And as I already said,

43:31

Muscovites are secretive, and of course that affects

43:34

all of the poll results. We

43:37

can see that

43:39

out of 100 percent, Putin in Moscow has

43:41

significantly less. Grudinin here is clearly

43:46

ahead of Zhirinovsky. Sobchak, yes, has

43:51

2 percent, but if we look — that is,

43:53

it’s also somewhat higher than in

43:56

the rest of Russia. Now let’s

43:58

measure this approximately — well, not approximately, but quite precisely —

44:01

by looking at the rating among decided voters, that is,

44:03

if we remove that 41 percent,

44:07

what will happen? What will the result be

44:10

in the actual ballot-box vote?

44:12

We immediately see here that Putin gets

44:15

significantly less — 75 percent — although it is still

44:18

an enormous lead. Apart from him,

44:21

no one really sees anyone else. We can see that

44:24

in Moscow, Grudinin will almost certainly

44:27

overtake Zhirinov

44:28

sky: his Moscow rating is above 10

44:31

percent, compared with 6 percent

44:33

nationwide. Zhirinovsky is also in Moscow

44:36

a little above 7 percent, compared

44:38

with 6. There is a margin of error, but in

44:40

any case,

44:41

Zhirinovsky is in third place. Sobchak gets 3

44:45

percent among decided voters, and

44:50

that is already significantly more than across

44:52

the country, where it is 1 percent. Yavlinsky has 2 percent

44:55

— also higher in Moscow than in Russia as a whole.

44:59

Nationwide it’s 1. So this is exactly

45:01

why the ratings of these liberal candidates, or

45:04

candidates presenting themselves as liberal,

45:07

are higher in Moscow, but not as high as

45:10

they usually are. Which suggests that

45:12

of course

45:14

Muscovites, too, have figured out what these

45:19

elections are. They don’t want to support anyone.

45:22

Forty-one percent of them don’t even

45:24

want to say anything, and those who do want to

45:26

speak — 75 percent support Putin.

45:30

But by the way, don’t take down

45:32

this slide just yet.

45:32

If we conduct a little thought

45:34

experiment, and take this 41 percent of those

45:39

who refused to say whom they

45:41

would vote for, and divide them equally

45:43

among everyone except Putin — the hypothesis

45:46

is that no one was afraid to say they were for Putin,

45:49

but they were afraid to say it for all

45:52

the others, and we divide them among

45:54

all the others — there’s no slide for this, but simply

45:57

these figures would turn into, for Grudinin,

45:59

in that case — that is, this is the assumed

46:02

upper-bound maximum estimate for our

46:05

candidates — Grudinin would have 20 percent

46:09

in Moscow, Zhirinovsky 15, Sobchak 7.

46:13

Yavlinsky gets 5, but let me repeat,

46:15

assuming that everyone who refused

46:19

is redistributed only among the opposition

46:21

candidates, and Putin gets 0 from them, that is,

46:23

that’s the maximum upper-bound estimate, but

46:25

still, frankly speaking, it shows no super

46:28

breakthroughs at all. Let’s

46:31

look at the negative ratings in Moscow. These

46:35

ratings in Moscow are different too. We

46:39

can see that Sobchak’s negative rating in Moscow

46:42

is 63 percent, which is slightly lower than

46:44

the 68 percent nationwide

46:46

across Russia, though it is still

46:48

off the charts, enormous—interesting.

46:49

Yavlinsky is very interesting: for some reason, in

46:52

Moscow—honestly, we just, well, we

46:56

were surprised ourselves—but in Moscow his

46:58

negative rating is higher than across

47:01

Russia as a whole: 27 percent of people say they would not

47:03

vote for him under any circumstances.

47:05

It’s 24 percent nationwide.

47:07

But, as expected, Zhirinovsky is disliked in Moscow

47:11

even more than in the rest of

47:13

Russia: his negative rating is 26 percent, compared

47:16

with 21 percent

47:18

For Grudinin in Moscow, the same thing

47:20

is happening: his rating in Moscow is higher, and

47:22

so is his negative rating, because he was more

47:23

well known here. What’s interesting is Putin.

47:26

Across the country, in the rest of the country,

47:28

people are obviously afraid to say that they do not

47:32

like Putin that much. In Moscow they are afraid too,

47:34

but in Moscow many more people say it openly:

47:35

8 percent of people clearly and directly

47:37

state that under no circumstances would they

47:40

vote for Putin. Let’s

47:42

take a look at whether campaigning is at least noticeable in Moscow,

47:45

whether the candidates’ campaigning is visible.

47:49

And we can see that yes, this is where the biggest

47:51

differences are: Muscovites notice the election

47:55

campaign, while in the rest of the country

47:57

somehow people barely see it. In Moscow, well,

48:00

that is, still 47 percent

48:03

—almost half of Muscovites—do not notice any election

48:05

campaign at all, but in the

48:07

rest of the country that figure is 67 percent. But at the same time,

48:09

37 percent of Muscovites see

48:12

Zhirinovsky’s campaign, while in Russia overall only

48:14

16 percent do. 30 percent see Sobchak’s campaign, 29

48:19

percent see Grudinin’s campaign, and Putin’s

48:21

is noticed by 24 percent. Around 19 percent

48:24

have noticed Yavlinsky. Interestingly,

48:29

Zyuganov and Mironov are also mentioned in Moscow

48:31

—though Mironov is not taking part; we

48:35

include them simply as reference indicators—but

48:37

Muscovites clearly say that they do not see

48:39

any campaigning by Zyuganov or Mironov. Well,

48:41

strictly speaking, that is entirely correct:

48:43

they do not see it. So overall, what I want to say

48:49

is that, broadly speaking, the results in the

48:52

country’s largest city, the city with the

48:54

largest number of voters, are not very

48:56

different from the nationwide ones. In Moscow too,

48:59

people have figured out and understood what kind of

49:04

strange, murky, and fake

49:06

election campaign this is.

49:09

The candidates who were put forward

49:12

to pretend that there was some kind of contest

49:14

enjoy no real support, because

49:17

everyone can see that there is no real contest, and

49:18

of course, I have already seen a lot of

49:21

tweets asking, precisely, what do you think

49:23

about the statement by Sobchak’s campaign chief

49:24

regarding the lack of choice. There were many

49:26

questions about what I think of the debates, what I

49:29

think of everything else. Well, indeed,

49:31

we were waiting for the debates, and I was waiting for them too. Everyone

49:34

was interested, and in fact for

49:37

these candidates—but Putin is not taking part

49:40

anywhere. He has already won. Putin

49:41

is getting 80 percent—this is a

49:43

reappointment, and there is no point discussing it

49:47

in Putin’s case. But for the other candidates,

49:51

the puppet candidates, obviously, it still

49:53

matters who comes in second

49:55

and who comes in third, whether they get

49:58

1 percent or 4 percent—that is still

50:00

a big difference. And we were all waiting for the debates, and

50:03

I was waiting for them too. They could have gone in two

50:06

directions. Option number one: create

50:10

a scandal and draw attention to themselves through

50:12

harsh criticism of Putin, attacks on Putin,

50:14

and exposing Putin. Of course, I

50:17

expected that; I hoped for that path.

50:19

Option number two: draw attention to themselves through

50:21

some kind of scandal, a fight, splashing

50:23

water around. Here, in our weekly editorial meeting,

50:28

my colleagues won’t let me lie,

50:31

I kept saying to them constantly

50:33

that there would be debates, and all these campaign teams that

50:36

had done nothing would try to attract

50:38

attention simply by starting a fight,

50:39

a squabble, and throwing things at each other.

50:41

And that is exactly what happened. We

50:44

saw debates in exactly that format. Of course,

50:47

it was pre-programmed: Zhirinovsky

50:49

does this at every election. Zhirinovsky

50:52

shouts and does not let anyone say anything, and everyone

50:54

else shouts back at him, and in this

50:57

predictable clown show, in this complete

51:01

trashiness, even

51:03

Vladimir Solovyov seems to feel

51:04

his own superiority. 3,500 rubles (about 35 euros / 38 US dollars) have been received

51:07

from Karina. Let me remind you that

51:10

we are raising funds for election monitoring. Even

51:13

Vladimir Solovyov—there he is, standing there already,

51:15

saying: I am forced to put up with all this,

51:18

I, the respectable Vladimir Solovyov, even I

51:21

am better than these pathetic candidates.

51:23

Come on, of course you all saw this

51:25

water-splashing and everything that

51:28

happened. Let’s look at it once again,

51:30

just please do not analyze it from the

51:34

point of view of who acted correctly

51:36

or incorrectly, or whether it was a brave act.

51:37

But look at the happiness on Ksenia

51:40

Sobchak’s face—real happiness. She is smiling.

51:42

At last, she has found herself in a setting familiar to

51:45

In this format, Zhirinovsky is pleased too, you can tell.

51:48

Everyone is happy with it except Yavlinsky and, apparently, Lesky.

51:50

He stood there looking sad because, well, somehow...

51:53

He turned away and was clearly upset, while everyone else...

51:56

finally got what they wanted.

51:59

They splashed water around, they caused a scandal.

52:02

They got their clip, which ended up with a million

52:05

views on YouTube, and that is exactly what

52:07

their election campaign basically amounts to, by God.

52:09

Their campaign. One minute six seconds. Let's

52:12

watch it, ladies and gentlemen.

52:24

Gentlemen, but I keep saying...

52:43

And you, Baburin, broaden it...

53:19

Everyone is satisfied, everyone is happy, everyone got

53:23

what they wanted. And the happiest of all is

53:25

Putin, because, naturally, any

53:26

ordinary voter—just read the comments under

53:29

the YouTube video—this isn't even

53:30

an unusual reaction. A voter from

53:33

the internet looks at all this and thinks:

53:34

"Well, they're clowns, aren't they?"

53:35

"Sure, I don't like Putin, I'm sick of him, but

53:38

I'd still rather vote for Putin

53:40

than for these

53:42

squealing, shouting, and on top of that

53:44

water-splashing people." That was all obvious. But I

53:47

took part in similar debates during

53:50

the Moscow mayoral election; I was there too.

53:51

At one point there was an LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia) representative who wouldn't let

53:53

anyone get a word in, constantly

53:54

babbling on. But if you want to play

53:58

that game of shouting over him,

54:00

then he'll gladly play it with you.

54:02

And there was Ksenia there,

54:05

pushing and pushing at Zhirinovsky,

54:06

shouting and shouting something at him, and then she got

54:08

what was coming to her: he splashed water. And now everyone is

54:11

talking about it. And the only question is whether

54:15

it was worth causing this scandal, or whether she should have drawn

54:18

attention to herself by doing something through

54:19

criticism of Putin, somehow

54:22

exposing him, bringing up his son-in-law or

54:25

some other things like that. You're a candidate—

54:29

say something about him, about how he

54:33

personally singled out Kiriyenko (likely Sergey Kiriyenko, a senior Kremlin official)...

54:35

Say something about that. No—none of that

54:37

is of interest to anyone. If you don't like

54:40

the debate format—and the debate format

54:42

is monstrous—then Grudinin was absolutely

54:44

right. I saw several questions here asking

54:45

whether Grudinin did the right thing by

54:48

walking out. He absolutely did. But

54:50

if you guys are real

54:53

candidates and you really want real

54:56

debates, then don't stand in the studio shouting that you don't

54:58

agree. All of you have members

55:01

on the Central Election Commission, with the right

55:04

to vote decisively—the Communists and

55:06

Zhirinovsky do, and Sobchak has the right

55:08

to an advisory voice. Go make a scene there.

55:10

Cause a scandal there.

55:10

Tell Ella Pamfilova (chair of Russia's Central Election Commission) that you

55:13

will disrupt a CEC meeting if you are not given

55:15

proper debates, that you will walk out

55:17

in protest, that all of you will refuse

55:19

to continue, that you will withdraw from the election

55:21

if you are not allowed to debate properly.

55:23

But they don't do that, you see. They

55:26

perform outrage in public, like when they

55:28

were splashing water around, but they don't take

55:31

the right steps. They don't go after the CEC, they don't

55:35

threaten to withdraw. That's what they should

55:37

be threatening, because they're happy. They

55:39

exist quite comfortably in this

55:43

format that suits them. But in the end, this

55:45

format is clearly uncomfortable for Yavlinsky.

55:47

He feels bad there, it's unpleasant for him. This format

55:50

is clearly uncomfortable for Grudinin too. But for everyone

55:53

else, it's just great. It's exactly what

55:55

they need.

55:56

But the ones who lose from all this are us.

55:58

I hope these debates once again

56:01

showed what a sham all these elections are.

56:04

And let me remind you that today we are

56:07

raising money for election observers.

56:08

We have three prize lots, and the person who

56:13

sends the largest donation

56:14

will receive the grand prize: a book by Nastya Rybka (a Russian media personality known for scandalous memoirs),

56:17

which also would have fit in perfectly at

56:18

these debates. I noticed two

56:21

things. Let's start with this: there are only

56:27

six seconds where one of the candidates directly

56:30

assesses his prospects in this

56:32

election and says what kind of

56:34

election this is: "None of us will

56:38

become president of Russia. Unfortunately, in our country

56:40

the president is always the same

56:42

person." Great. Just great.

56:46

It's wonderful to take part, go into these elections, and then

56:50

tell the whole country

56:51

right from the start: "Well, of course none of

56:54

us will become president. We're basically

56:56

just some random people here." And then later

56:58

splash water around. Everything is simply being done

57:01

to play into Putin's hands

57:04

completely. Why say that? Talk about

57:06

Putin, at least somebody talk about him. But neither

57:09

Yavlinsky nor Grudinin—nobody there—said the surname

57:12

Putin more than just a few

57:14

times. And then there was the person who—I ended up

57:17

talking a lot about Sobchak in this

57:19

episode—but Sobchak's campaign chief, Igor

57:22

Malashenko, simply astonished me, really

57:25

pleasantly surprised me, genuinely impressed me,

57:27

because he probably formulated his

57:29

attitude toward these elections on this program

57:34

even better than I could. It's 43 seconds.

57:37

Let's listen to the only honest

57:40

person among all the campaign staffs of all

57:44

the candidates. Here's how he relates to these

57:46

elections—and this is how we should relate to them too.

57:49

Igor Malashenko. Forty-three seconds. Look, he

57:52

said, in essence: it turned out the way it turned out.

57:54

Putin—Putin is already president of

57:57

Russia again, forgive me.

57:59

I'll try to be brief: he is again

58:02

the president. There are no elections, as you

58:04

know. That's what your participation is called...

58:07

candidate Ksenia Sobchak

58:09

She is taking part in a certain political

58:12

process that

58:16

was organized, so to speak, in connection with the day of

58:19

the nationwide vote on March 18, and

58:22

Come on, really, why kid ourselves

58:25

there is no election, Putin is the next

58:28

president

58:31

There is no election; Putin is the next president.

58:34

Who are we to argue with that?

58:36

If Igor Malashenko, the campaign chief

58:38

of the candidate, says, Igor, I agree with you

58:40

completely.

58:40

We have our weapon: we will count

58:43

the voter turnout. We won't go. Somehow I've

58:45

been talking about Rogozin for too long, and I

58:47

absolutely have to say this:

58:48

it's an amazing story.

58:49

Novaya Gazeta released a report, and for

58:52

us it was very important, because we had also

58:54

been looking into this topic a little, only from

58:56

a different angle. We were not dealing with

58:58

Rogozin's relatives, let's say.

58:59

What interested us was a situation in which

59:02

1 billion rubles was spent on

59:04

thermal imagers, an absolutely essential

59:07

type of equipment for the Russian

59:09

army, absolutely crucial in modern

59:11

combat conditions. A billion was spent, but

59:14

nothing was received, and after several

59:17

different iterations, the shares of the company into which

59:22

huge sums had been invested turned out

59:24

to belong to the son of one of the

59:27

top officials of the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service).

59:28

And on the board of directors of this company

59:30

sits Rogozin's nephew. And with this

59:33

nephew, Rogozin simply got into

59:35

a comedic farce. I know Dmitry

59:38

a little personally; you can

59:40

feel differently about him, generally speaking,

59:42

but he is a rather cunning, smart man

59:45

who understands PR well—what can

59:47

be said and what cannot. And here I don't

59:49

know, maybe in the government they had some kind of

59:50

collective brain freeze, because

59:52

with Rogozin, the classic thing happened.

59:55

Novaya Gazeta published this investigation

59:57

—read it, by the way, it's very good.

59:59

Rogozin started denying it and said,

1:00:01

"I don't have any nephew, never have,

1:00:03

Novaya Gazeta, learn the facts." But

1:00:06

you can still find a huge

1:00:10

number of screenshots, because Dmitry

1:00:12

Rogozin is proud of his relatives.

1:00:14

He wrote many times about his nephew.

1:00:17

You can see there was just a whole set of tweets, photos

1:00:21

of this nephew, congratulating him on

1:00:24

various things. And when

1:00:26

the scandal naturally broke out, Rogozin

1:00:28

started saying, "I never had a nephew," and

1:00:30

deleted all those tweets. It got even funnier

1:00:34

because he's such an international

1:00:36

guy, right? Look, screenshots are still all over the place.

1:00:41

By the way, those screenshots were published everywhere

1:00:45

because he too,

1:00:47

Dmitry Olegovich, likes to joke around.

1:00:49

He started sort of trolling journalists and

1:00:51

saying, "I called my

1:00:53

aunt and asked whether she had given birth to any

1:00:55

nephew, and she said she hadn't, haha."

1:00:57

But Rogozin forgot to delete

1:01:01

his English-language Twitter.

1:01:02

And there too it was full of all these references

1:01:06

to his nephew. So, in other words, the nephew exists.

1:01:09

After that, Dmitry Olegovich began making

1:01:12

some truly chaotic

1:01:13

moves. First he

1:01:14

deleted his Facebook, and made access to his Twitter

1:01:17

restricted, so then he

1:01:19

deleted

1:01:20

his English-language Twitter. Then he deleted

1:01:23

—actually, he restored the deleted Facebook

1:01:25

but locked it, and he also locked

1:01:27

his Twitter. And now we simply

1:01:30

can no longer enjoy his wonderful

1:01:33

gems, like that one about trampolines

1:01:35

and the American rocket—remember how he bragged

1:01:37

and said that the Americans still couldn't

1:01:39

manage it at all? Or those heart-rending

1:01:41

statements about how he would give anything

1:01:43

to leave this warm

1:01:45

government post and end up in a trench

1:01:47

near Sloviansk (a city in eastern Ukraine).

1:01:51

He has deprived us of a lot. I've been following him for a long time,

1:01:54

but for me he

1:01:56

didn't delete me, so I won't be able to

1:01:58

enjoy all that. But the real question is:

1:02:00

all of this is pretty funny, it's a kind of

1:02:03

media fiasco for Dmitry Rogozin.

1:02:05

But 1 billion rubles disappeared, the thermal imagers

1:02:10

are nowhere to be found, and the company that received the 1 billion rubles

1:02:14

belongs to the son of an FSB general, and on the board

1:02:17

of directors sits this nephew. So

1:02:19

explain it, Dmitry Olegovich, explain

1:02:21

it to us, government; explain it to us, FSB: what

1:02:24

happened? Where did the 1 billion go?

1:02:27

Military experts—and in fact

1:02:29

this is not even denied, not denied even by

1:02:31

Russia's own defense-industrial complex—

1:02:33

say that nothing worked out with

1:02:35

these thermal imagers. Putin can

1:02:36

tell fairy tales about some super-

1:02:38

missile

1:02:39

at the Federal Assembly,

1:02:40

but thermal imagers—which, let's be honest,

1:02:43

are less technologically complex to produce than

1:02:47

a nuclear-powered missile—

1:02:49

could not be made. What did succeed

1:02:52

was siphoning off the money. Of course, we would very much like

1:02:53

this story

1:02:55

to end with something other than simply

1:02:57

deleting Twitter and Facebook and all sorts of

1:02:59

comic antics like these.

1:03:01

We want an answer: where did you put

1:03:04

the 1 billion rubles, and why are your

1:03:07

relatives suddenly involved in

1:03:09

the production of thermal imagers when they

1:03:11

should have absolutely nothing to do with it?

1:03:13

relations — I mean, this is an extremely important thing.

1:03:17

a corrupt, corrupt manifestation.

1:03:20

to which we have no answers at all.

1:03:22

Our time is coming to an end, but of course I

1:03:23

can't help but mention the disgusting

1:03:26

things that are happening. One such

1:03:28

disgusting thing was the arrest of

1:03:30

Konstantin Sudakov — he was arrested.

1:03:33

He was detained together with me. Here he is,

1:03:35

they were detaining me, and they detained him because

1:03:38

he supposedly grabbed a police officer the wrong way,

1:03:39

and he spent 30 days in custody, and yesterday

1:03:42

he was arrested again — they simply opened

1:03:44

a criminal case and put him under arrest. Let's

1:03:47

watch these few seconds of his

1:03:49

detention and try to understand what exactly he

1:03:52

did that could have caused, as they say,

1:03:55

the police officer such acute pain that

1:03:58

a person has to be kept in a cell for a month

1:04:01

and now needs to be sent on to a

1:04:02

pre-trial detention center. Let's watch these

1:04:04

few seconds of the detention.

1:04:35

So, you can see this fair-haired guy

1:04:38

next to me, standing at first in

1:04:40

the line beside me. He was immediately pushed aside there, then he

1:04:42

then grabbed one of the police officers,

1:04:44

tried to pull him away from me, and this

1:04:48

is supposedly inflicting acute pain so severe that

1:04:51

it means a person has to be kept behind

1:04:53

bars. These same police officers at every

1:04:56

rally do things like this all the time.

1:04:58

And that's not even mentioning what they do as part of their

1:05:00

ordinary work — things for which,

1:05:03

if this is enough, then they should all simply be locked up for life.

1:05:05

If this is grounds for arresting

1:05:09

a person — a young man — he has no

1:05:11

parents, he lives alone. Right now my team there

1:05:14

is helping him, we're helping with a lawyer, helping

1:05:16

however we can. But we're simply seeing yet another

1:05:18

example of a random person being simply

1:05:21

snatched up for no reason and then they try

1:05:23

to jail him. Today, Mikhail Golyashkin as well,

1:05:26

who was prosecuted over the protest on the 12th, fortunately received

1:05:29

a suspended sentence. And what does “fortunately” mean here? It means that

1:05:31

he was punished for nothing — yes, he sprayed something from a canister there,

1:05:34

he shouldn't have sprayed from a canister at

1:05:36

the rally, but he was given a one-year suspended sentence. I also have

1:05:40

a suspended conviction, and it's not the most

1:05:41

pleasant thing in the world, so of course

1:05:43

regarding Mikhail, I can say that I'm glad he's

1:05:44

still free, even with a suspended sentence, but

1:05:47

that suspended sentence was for nothing, and all of this

1:05:49

is happening against the backdrop of a huge scandal.

1:05:54

Though it's not as huge as it ought to be,

1:05:56

when FSB officers (Russia's Federal Security Service) seized some

1:06:01

anti-fascists and, in fact, simply

1:06:04

tortured them with electric shocks. They

1:06:07

told their lawyers about it, they

1:06:10

spoke about it in interviews, and on their

1:06:13

bodies anyone could see the so-called

1:06:15

electrical marks — traces left by electric shocks.

1:06:18

So they were tortured with electricity. As if that weren't enough,

1:06:21

the developments there became absolutely monstrous:

1:06:23

some people decided to support them

1:06:26

and came out with one-person pickets against

1:06:28

torture.

1:06:29

So they were grabbed too, taken to the FSB, and

1:06:33

they too were tortured with electric shocks, about which

1:06:36

they gave numerous

1:06:38

interviews — and nothing happens. No one

1:06:41

is arresting any of these investigators, these

1:06:45

operatives, these people

1:06:47

these deranged fascists who simply

1:06:50

grabbed some random left-wing

1:06:54

activists and are trying to force confessions out of them

1:06:56

that they have some kind of weapons caches.

1:06:58

Using torture — and no one

1:07:01

arrests them, nothing is done to them,

1:07:02

nothing happens to them. This is the

1:07:05

revolting face of the regime, and that is why

1:07:07

we will fight these people.

1:07:09

Tell me, are we ready to sum up

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the results of our contest? Today we have

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counter number one, counter number two, and

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a book by Rybka, which at the end I'll wrap

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in plastic wrap and sign

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for the winner. I see Oksana is writing to me

1:07:26

to tell me what the

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results of this contest are. So then, in

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third place, counter number one

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goes to Karina,

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who donated 13,500 rubles today.

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And we'll send 22,024 rubles to you.

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He gets this stylish counter.

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And Snow Bilen, who donated 23,000

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rubles, gets this wonderful book,

1:07:55

which I do not recommend reading. Here, I'll

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sign it.

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But I sincerely recommend that Snow Bilen,

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who donated 23,000, and the observers —

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no, thank you very much — read no further than my signature,

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because if you do read it,

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it will never leave your head again.

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Huge thanks to everyone who watched this

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broadcast. In the description there's a link where you need

1:08:17

to sign up as election observers; you'll get

1:08:19

the same kind of counter, and you'll be counting people.

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Until next Thursday — bye everyone.

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