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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it's 8:02 p.m.
I apologize for the fact that
we delayed the start of the broadcast a little, but
in any case, we're still live.
This is the *Russia of the Future* program, and I am
its permanent host, Alexei Navalny, and
today I am a “celluloid doll,” so we
had to close the window because
motorcyclists are roaring outside. We'll shut everything, and today I am
a “celluloid doll,” as Vladimir Solovyov called me.
Vladimir Solovyov. Let's listen to
this wonderful man:
“When, in all seriousness, that little fool by the name of
Navalny, that cold little doll,
starts reasoning about some three parts—
yes, that fool Navalny, that
celluloid doll.” Vladimir Solovyov
has made my task easier. I mean, of course,
among the huge number of
state media outlets, you can always
pick some funny nickname
they've used for me, but Solovyov
burst onto YouTube and started doing
giant broadcasts, and there are plenty of absolutely
great names there. As I said, he
apparently does it on purpose because
he likes that I show clips from him on my
broadcast, thereby promoting
his YouTube channel. Well, basically,
big YouTube channels should help
small and new ones, so
basically, a big strong channel
is extending a helping hand to this half-dead
newcomer named Vladimir Solovyov. As for
long broadcasts, I don't know
how much time we'll spend together today.
I kept cutting, cutting, cutting
the script for you, and then suddenly it
turns into something huge every time. But don't
be alarmed—if anything, write, write. I don't
know, just write to me in big capital
letters: “That's it, log off, we're sick of it,” with
the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter. They will
pass your questions on to me, and I
will answer them. The news that
came literally five minutes before we went on air
is that Russian Prime Minister Mikhail
Mishustin has been diagnosed with coronavirus. We do not
like Mikhail Mishustin. We consider him
a crook and a thief. We know that he is a crook and
a thief; we have proven it many times. The most
popular investigation this year was about
Mikhail Mishustin. But of course I
wish him good health. He should get through this
completely healthy and, sooner or later,
stand trial and answer for all
the things he did together with
his accomplices, when he and
they, while sitting in the tax service, stole from
the Russian budget billions. But everything
that is happening with Mishustin—well, let's forget
that he is a crook. He is a human being,
a high-ranking person, a person
around whom, you know, they built
a large number of cordons and
medical, and also social and cultural, protections.
You can't accuse Mishustin of
having, you know, gone out for a barbecue
without listening to Dr. Malysheva (a well-known Russian TV doctor), or
having listened to
her and then gone and gotten wasted with the guys
and, I don't know, run after someone at a
village disco, and therefore
caught coronavirus. No—Mishustin
is at the very center of a situation
where people have the ability to take
the maximum possible measures against
coronavirus, and nevertheless he got sick. Here it is
appropriate to recall how certain
state media gloated when
Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister of
the United Kingdom, fell ill. Now the same thing has happened in Russia.
This shows us that this is
a dangerous disease, and it is very difficult
to protect yourself from it. And most importantly—again,
forgive me, I'm just like
a ram staring at a new gate (a Russian idiom meaning someone fixated on one thing), repeating the same thing—this
can affect anyone. Therefore we need
to help everyone now, absolutely everyone. Well,
now Mishustin is down, and instead of him
Belousov is acting in his place—a
much more hellish economic
figure. He is known for always
being portrayed by journalists as—
in reality it's not quite so simple—there is a kind of
liberal wing in the government and
in economic policy overall—people like Kudrin and the like—and
then there are these hellish satans
who want to immediately spend all
the money on gigantic state
projects. Belousov represents
that wing, although of course this is a simplified
picture. So one can assume that if
God forbid something happens with Mishustin, if
this drags on longer, if he gets sicker and
is out for a long time, then Belousov
will begin an amazing money giveaway, and
he will be handing it out to large companies,
to oligarchs, not to people at all, even though it is
clear that people are the ones who need money. Mishustin
got sick, but anyone could get sick—
the father of a family, the mother of a family, any
person who is the head of a household.
If that person gets sick, the family may already have
lost its income, and all the more so now it has
lost income. There is no money. You need a whole room,
you need to isolate the person so that he
stays there, no one goes in, and he is treated.
You need medicine, you need to buy it. Mishustin
can get medicine—he'll be fine—but
how many such Mishustins are there? We
already understand now that
the scale of the epidemic
does not match the official figures, and
getting sick right now is very expensive. Therefore
people need to be given money. Therefore I still urge you—
I still urge you, there has already been a lot...
The signatures have probably totaled around
a million.
But even so, well, this program is watched
by a much larger number of people in a week
than have signed on the website so far.
Frankly, this really upsets me.
It means I haven’t found
the right words for you,
the words needed to convince everyone, and so on.
It also means that you, of course, don’t believe
in signatures and all that. But still,
this has to be done very quickly.
We need to make sure a lot of people hear about it
and that many people demand it, because we
will talk about this today. Apparently,
the quarantine measures will be lifted from May 11 არა
not because the epidemic will be over, but because
because they simply do not want
to give out money.
But our task in any case, even if
the quarantine measures are lifted, is that April has passed
while we were sitting under all these
well, essentially under
self-isolation rules. For this April, give people
money. Even if everything is lifted tomorrow,
we are not withdrawing our demand for direct support
for people, and we believe that
for April, the government should give each person
20,000 rubles (about US$215), because that is a fair
and reasonable compensation. Even
Mishustin has fallen ill, so in that case let’s
give everyone money, because people are getting sick, people
are paying for medicine, and so on.
I’m going to talk about this in detail now.
But I saw statistics: in 40 or 37
regions, a so-called mask
regime has been introduced. Has anyone been given masks for free there?
They have to be bought—that’s a separate issue.
They aren’t available, but you’re still supposed to buy them.
You don’t give people free masks, but you tell them:
if you go outside
without a mask, you’ll be punished. But how are you supposed
to buy one? Sure, it’s 100 rubles, 400 rubles,
500 rubles (roughly US$1–5), but you still have to find the money and pay.
So if you want people to pay out of their own pockets,
to come up with the money themselves and pay,
then why is it impossible to squeeze anything out of the budget?
They won’t give it, they won’t. And now, interestingly enough,
notice how, through various
people—both openly pro-government ones and
obvious pro-
propagandists, and even moderately
opposition-minded publicists and
commentators—they are pushing the idea that
well, in wartime, it’s wartime, guys.
There’s an epidemic right now, a serious problem, so
let’s just stop
criticizing the government for now.
Let’s all pull together, defeat this
coronavirus, and then, in peacetime,
we’ll criticize. But right now, anyone who criticizes
is suspicious—what do they want?
Do they want their own people to lose?
Why are they going after Putin now? This is not the time
for criticism. And perhaps the best
version of this was voiced by my favorite propagandist,
Vladimir Pozner (a well-known Russian TV host), because he is, of course,
the most sophisticated propagandist.
Even now, in 2020, it’s amazing
to watch how a large number of
seemingly normal people just kind of
turn to mush and melt when
they see Pozner, and there he is, all smooth and polished, and he
says these things, and he speaks very well,
very elegantly, and he constantly reminds everyone that
he is a citizen of three countries and has spent a lot of
time in France, and can pronounce French
restaurant names with charm.
And people completely fall for this
nonsense. But in my view, this was one of the most
outrageous statements that
has been made. Let’s listen to the clip; I’ll
stay in the corner, because this is Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel),
and I’ll
be insulting the wonderful
Vladimir Pozner with my presence. Fifty-nine seconds on why
you must not criticize the government in difficult times.
On the internet and in a number of our
media outlets, including
some that are not ours, there are very often appearances by
opponents of President Putin and the current
authorities. But what strikes me is that often, in
these appearances,
there is poorly concealed, and sometimes even
openly gloating
commentary about the number of
people infected,
the number of deaths. And I think, perhaps
for the duration of the pandemic,
at a time when the country as a whole is fairly
tense, when people are tense too, and many are
confused,
perhaps for this period it would be worth setting aside
your grievances and accusations.
Perhaps it would be better to direct your efforts,
your energy, your mind, toward
supporting people’s hopes, and only later,
when the pandemic subsides,
return to your usual concerns.
Well, you see how all of this sounds
logical enough: the country is tense right now, maybe
we should direct our efforts…
Alexander writes: what should be done about attempts
to throw medical students into the line of fire
in the fight against COVID? Indeed, today
there are simply huge numbers of people on Instagram
who study at medical colleges and
are writing that they are being forced
—medical college students, and also those at
medical faculties—
people whose specialties are only loosely related to this,
for example cosmetologists,
write that they are being made to go work in these
hospitals, supposedly as internships, and for free.
And these people too, for example—are they also not supposed
to criticize the government right now?
You see, on Instagram, students are writing en masse that they are being
forced to work.
for free
But if it's effectively martial law and we
are supposed to
then all stand together, shoulder to shoulder,
and not criticize the government, then
fine, we've propped up the government with our shoulder,
and we say: come on, Volodya, Vladimir,
Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich,
Posner, go ahead — but what about the government?
Doesn't it want to push a little
in the other direction? But these medical students —
fine, say 20,000 rubles to each of them
— that's what we're demanding. Why should they have to work
for free, while all the others — Rosgvardiya
troops, various police officers,
Mikhail Mishustin goes on sick leave, but
he still gets paid. Why should medical students
have to do this for free?
Again, there's a gigantic budget and enormous
amounts of money — some mythical 17 or 18
trillion rubles. So maybe they should be paid
a salary, for example, for what they'll be doing?
No, no — we all have to shut up and
help the beloved government because
these are hard times, and I can't calmly
watch Vladimir Pozner (a well-known Russian TV host) as he
once again tells us about hard
times, because he's exactly the kind of person
who has spent his whole life talking about hard times,
about hard times — his whole life, all his
life he has always had some explanation for why
the government is right, while the people — or these
as he put it, "certain people" —
who criticize the authorities are somehow gloating, or whatever.
This man has been doing this his whole life. Here, a video —
I'll show you now.
It's 1979. Little Alexei Navalny is 3
years old; he's not watching TV yet, but
Vladimir Pozner, even back then, already
in a turtleneck and a soft little jacket,
is looking into the camera very intelligently
and explaining: these dissidents — no one
is afraid of any dissidents in Russia
or the Soviet Union; they're just breaking the law, listen.
If they break the law, they must be
punished. Back then they were locked up in psychiatric hospitals
for nothing at all — for "slandering"
the Soviet system.
People would come out and say, you know,
there is no real socialism in the Soviet Union,
there's nothing to eat — and you'd be jailed
instantly. Ordinary people were jailed
just like that. And then Vladimir
would come along and say, my God, look, there's an article of law,
this is Soviet propaganda — they need to be imprisoned.
And if you break the law, you must be
prepared for that. 1979 — let's watch. "In your country
there are a small number of dissidents. Why does
your government in your country seem so
afraid of them?" — "No one is afraid."
"Why do you think it's afraid?" "Then why
is life so difficult for them here?" "Well,
life is difficult for them because they are few, and because
in general they are going against
the colossal majority.
And of course life is hard for them, but no one is
afraid of them. Another matter is that when they
break certain laws, when that
happens — and far from all of them break the law —
the law is the law. You may like it or not,
but it must be respected.
If you break it, then you should expect
the consequences. But no, they are not really
afraid of them."
You see? They're all like that, at any
time, under any regime — the very same
people sitting there on television,
including on state TV. They used to be
Soviet propagandists, then they became
democratic propagandists, and now they are
— forget ideology altogether — simply
Putin's propagandists for a thieving system, and they
always find a reason
to explain to us why there are certain
outcasts who criticize
the government, that they are breaking laws — but what kind
of government is this anyway? Right now everyone is
completely rallying behind the authorities: let's once again
support them because these are hard times. And it has always been
about hard times.
Look it up on YouTube.
During the Afghan war, he said that
it was the right decision. When the USSR shot down
the Korean airliner, he said they had not
shot down any Korean plane. We must
unite in times like these. The government always
has a reason to lie, and that lie is always
made to sound so convincing. What's more, they also
try to climb onto a hill of moral
superiority and from there tell us
how shameful we are. Like right now, when it's so
hard for the country, in the middle of an epidemic, and you
are saying things with a certain malicious glee.
You know,
dear Vladimir Pozner, all the rest of us
are speaking not with glee, but rather
with a kind of desperation, because, well,
what is your government doing? We
launched this "Five Steps" campaign, and
the entire political establishment
said it was nonsense. We simply
put out a call: guys,
tell us your personal stories. And these
personal stories — I'll show you two small ones,
from completely different people,
from different walks of life, and there are
tens of millions of such people.
What are they guilty of? In what way
have they wronged this government?
Here, yes — Tatyana from Kostroma worked at a
jewelry factory.
Let's watch her story. "Hello, my name is Tatyana.
I worked at one of the jewelry factories
in the Kostroma region. Due to the coronavirus
epidemic, my company
laid me off.
My loans and utility payments at the moment
right now...
monthly
exceed the amount I will still be receiving
only in unemployment benefits from the employment office
labor
the federal and regional authorities
are providing no support in this situation, and I
don’t know what to do in this situation. I
signed the petition “Five Steps to”
which I urge you to support as well. It is the only
way to survive the epidemic
damn it, this is nonsense
So Tatyana—how exactly is she supposed to
rally around the government now? Why shouldn’t she
be allowed to criticize it? How is she
supposed to unite around it? But here’s the thing:
this person worked at a factory
I mean, not some hipster, not a journalist
not a businessman—worked at a factory, and
was laid off. And generally, in theory, it’s assumed that
for some of these ordinary people
who were laid off, there are procedures and they are given
some kind of assistance. But she wasn’t given any help
so why, how exactly is she supposed to
love the government now, when she
paid taxes? She works in Kostroma Oblast
(a region in western Russia)
Some of you may have been surprised
to hear the phrase, “I worked at a
jewelry factory in Kostroma Oblast,” because
that is traditionally a region with a huge
number of jewelry factories
located there
But people are being laid off, so how can they
possibly love the government now? They can’t
not at all. Now, a completely different
story: an entrepreneur from
Yekaterinburg. Let’s hear from him. Hello,
my name is Vladimir Pan, I am a co-owner
of a chain of cafeterias in the city of Yekaterinburg. Due
to the events
related to the quarantine, my cafeterias
are closed, my employees are not working, and all
the funds I had available, I
have already paid out to my employees. I no longer
have the ability to keep paying
so people are left without money. How my
business will fare after
the quarantine measures are lifted, I also do not know
That is why Mr. Navalny’s proposal
“Five Steps for Russia” seems to me very
timely and necessary. First of all, it
will help my employees survive—this money,
these payments, these monthly payments
And then it may also help
me survive as an entrepreneur, because
Navalny proposes paying all
businesses and entrepreneurs 3.2 trillion
rubles and cancel taxes
To collect taxes when we are currently not
working is, at the very least, absurd. I signed
this petition, and I urge you to sign
Mr. Navalny’s petition
Thank you
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As I understand it, my words—“damn, this is
nonsense”—from the previous video made it into
the broadcast somehow. I apologize; I just
thought it would be trimmed down a bit, shortened
But in fact, right now we
are flooded with a huge number
of personal stories
There is simply no money. And yet somehow they
seriously have the nerve to say
“let’s rally around the government”
Fine—but if the government has no money
and does not want to pay, then maybe
they should have prepared the country better. And
right now the government is generally on very good terms
with the WHO, the World Health Organization,
because there
international institutions have been quite
complimentary toward the Russian
government and did not criticize it for
anything
But then it published—well, this is not some
malicious American source or anyone else
it is an organization in which Russia sits on every
more or less significant commission—and it
published a ranking
of countries’ preparedness for epidemics. Do you know
what place we took there? 49th
We ranked 49th there. The ranking reflects
each state’s ability
to cope with unforeseen crises
in the healthcare system, taking into account
the number of hospital beds, doctors, and
nurses per 10,000 people. But
of course, we carried out the so-called
“optimization” here—everything was cut back
cut and slashed, and it turned out—whoops
we are in 49th place, with 48 countries
ahead of us. And for that too, we’re not supposed to
criticize the government? Well, because they
were obviously doing everything wrong in terms of
preparing for the epidemic, and now they are doing
everything very badly in terms of fighting this
epidemic as well. I mean, when I
was preparing this, I did not yet know that Mishustin
had fallen ill. That is one of the new
striking examples—they could not even protect
the top leadership, the most important people. But people are
completely
different, including young people, and those who
are, generally speaking, in the upper
part of society in terms of their
ability to access medical care
This week, for example, a
34-year-old employee from the
Sixth Department died
of the Government Communications Directorate, and he went
to an FSB hospital, and at that hospital he
came in, they asked him
if he had been coughing, if he felt unwell
As I understand it, colleagues describe him, and they
asked whether he had been in contact with foreigners
He said no, he had not
and they told him: no test for you,
not indicated, not indicated, not indicated—but in the end
It all ended with him winding up in
the hospital, likewise on a ventilator
and he died. He was 34 years old, 34
years old.
A death from coronavirus. But this really
is the point: this was someone being treated in Moscow
at an FSB departmental hospital (a hospital run by Russia’s Federal Security Service).
So what does that say about the rest of Russian
medicine? There’s absolutely none of it, and we
are supposed to be grateful for it. Right now
we’re supposedly meant to rally around something. Yes, I
think this is exactly the moment
when we should be criticizing and going after this
government. But we’re not calling on
people to leave their homes or anything like that.
But right now the situation is such that they
can’t lie about their organizational,
political, or any other kind of incompetence.
They can’t. All the measures
taken by our government—today there was
an absolutely brilliant headline about Putin.
Everyone reposted it on social media. I
was even going to show it at the beginning—it was about mattresses.
Putin said that he is confident in
growing demand for mattresses, and that, that
perfectly characterizes the situation.
It’s some kind of hellish circus where
no one understands what is happening and
no one understands what the government is doing.
It’s been a month now, I think exactly a month today,
since we all started sitting at home.
Do you—do you understand the government’s
strategy, what it is doing from the standpoint
of assistance, from the standpoint of fighting
coronavirus? What strategy is there? No. I
am sure you don’t understand, and no one
understands what they are doing. From the standpoint
of isolation—first they said masks
weren’t needed, now masks are mandatory for everyone.
At first they were against mass testing,
now they seem to be in favor of mass
testing, but that mass
testing still is not actually being carried out. No
one understands. A certain level
of chaos exists in every country because
this is something new. But in Russia, for the most part,
they talk but do not do anything, basically.
They just sit and wait, like,
someone died, someone didn’t—well, that’s just how it is.
We’ll probably just wait out some amount
of time. And from the standpoint of
this same isolation, fines, and
punishments, it’s also just some kind of
peak chaos. That Moscow hostel—I
when I watched it, our Moscow штаб (operational headquarters) made
a video about it, and I thought: this
cannot be real. We actually have in Moscow
a hostel—well, a hostel, an ordinary cheap hotel.
Some people arrived there,
people at the
hostel. One of them had been in contact with someone, and they
literally locked them inside that hostel—
strangers who had come from different places—
and are keeping them there. Let’s watch, 1 minute 14 seconds.
So how did you end up there, and how many
people are there? After that, the hostel became
sealed off; employees of Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer safety watchdog)
issued orders prohibiting
people from leaving the premises. In the closed hostel,
with each passing week more and more
people are falling ill. At the moment, several
have been taken to the hospital, but many who came down
with coronavirus remained in the hostel
to self-medicate. What happens when
couriers bring you food? Do they also
bring it upstairs?
We are being kept in absolutely unacceptable conditions.
There is no protection at all. Even the antiseptics that
used to be in the kitchen were removed.
As punishment, the administrator showed
that the water had been turned off—as punishment.
They removed the antiseptics as punishment. And one more thing:
the shift
And what were you punished for? For not
obeying.
That’s how I understand it.
One more thing: today they cut off our electricity.
That is, the lights in the rooms do not work.
Only a few people still have working
outlets.
So, 50 random people are there, like in
some film like *And Then There Were None* (known in Russian as *Ten Little Indians*),
gathered somewhere, then someone got sick,
they took him away, and locked the rest in.
Then, as usual, they turned off the lights and
turned off the water, locked the place, and what is
supposed to happen? If there is a risk
of illness, then let’s test them,
send them home, after all.
You cannot just take random people,
lock them up with a padlock, and
not let them out. And in the end, okay, Misha—
now Mishustin has fallen ill, Mishustin got
coronavirus, confirmed.
Confirmed. How is that any different from
the hostel? It’s the same thing: there is a hostel,
they locked it up, and there is the government building.
Mishustin got sick, so
let’s just go up to the government building,
put a huge padlock on it,
lock everyone inside, and let them sit there.
And then, in exactly the same way, raise plastic bottles
with some food up to them there. But that is
complete nonsense. And even in matters like these,
there is simply no
plan whatsoever. And there was a huge scandal after
our Moscow штаб (operational headquarters) published a video saying
things were supposedly improving, while these people had their water cut off.
The Moscow government says
it will solve this problem, but this is
a very strange thing, because at
any construction site, if sick people are identified, at
any workplace, in any group, anywhere—
and again, they recently created
huge traffic jams across the city because of the metro checks, but at the same time one
idiot for some reason decided that this
hostel—let’s lock up the dormitory.
An astonishing story, absurd once again.
Thank you very much to everyone who took part in
Smart Voting, because the rector
of this university, Natalia Pochinok,
a disgusting United Russia member, and you and I
managed to throw her out.
She did not become a deputy there;
Maxim Kruglov won, excellent, now representing
Yabloko in that district.
Simply thanks to Smart Voting. But
just look at what this person is actually doing.
She has a dorm there, students in it,
students living in the dormitory,
and the students living in the dormitory are subject to
the usual Moscow rules, the ordinary
Moscow rules that I live by too.
They mean that, well, if you need to,
you go to the store, and if you need to go to the store,
or go to the pharmacy, you go to the pharmacy.
The same applies to students, yes, they
Again, we do not have an official quarantine in Russia;
there is no official quarantine in
Russia, only self-isolation, so students
are supposed to observe self-isolation. That means
this United Russia member simply issues
an order saying: no, everyone must stay locked
up, and they are literally being kept
under lock and key. Here, a person is recording:
look, here is the order, yes: it is forbidden
to leave the dormitory, and it is forbidden to
order anything online, you understand, through
the internet, the purchase of goods is prohibited.
Show it again, I just didn’t manage
to read it. There was also text saying it is forbidden
to purchase goods via the internet, and
courier delivery too. But excuse me, I am
sitting at home, and if they told me that I was not
allowed to have anything delivered here by courier,
well, that is already called prison.
That is not called self-isolation.
No one can forbid anything like that, except
within the limits of the law, I mean.
And they were told: so, sit here,
you cannot order anything, and you are under arrest.
Here, for 30 seconds, a person is trying to leave
the dormitory, look.
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The person got out, well, after a scandal.
He called the police, because, well, he called
the police, the police came and said,
indeed, they had no right not to let him out, and he left.
After that scandal, they did not
let him back in, and then they sent him a notice by email saying that he had been
expelled. I mean, what for? Why?
They sent a notification. And this student,
an honors student, you understand, an excellent student, he was
expelled for leaving the dormitory.
But everyone leaves their homes, so what
is going on? What outrages me here
is that it simply shows that there is
no strategy, no plan, no
law at all, just some kind of lawlessness, some
kind of nonsense. This rector, for this
order banning students from
leaving and from receiving the things they need,
should be prosecuted. This is abuse of
official authority. This is simply
an overreach of official powers.
It is outrageous: she just went ahead and expelled a student.
This student recorded a video, he
told his story. Let’s listen.
What is simply astonishing here is that
it means a rector appointed by
the state, a civilian official,
can now actually impose
a prison-like regime on her own
students, who are not subordinate
to her in that sense at all. She is not some kind of commandant.
A dormitory manager has no right to restrict you in anything.
I mean, these are simply
ordinary civilians who live
there, just as if my building manager right now
said that Navalny (Alexei Navalny, Russian opposition politician) was
forbidden to leave his apartment and
to order anything delivered home. It is the same thing.
But this is happening to students. Let’s watch.
Hello, my name is Anton Ocheretin, and
together with the other students, I was
not allowed to leave the dormitory building.
We were also forbidden from receiving
deliveries ordered online. On April 25,
I tried to leave the dormitory, but I was not
allowed out. The administration cited
quarantine; however, they could provide no documents
confirming
that there was a quarantine in the dormitory.
The administration was unable to do so.
With the help of the police, on April 26 I was able
to leave the dormitory.
However, I was unable to return.
And together with Daniil Petrov,
Daniil,
we were left out on the street. On the 27th, we found out
that Daniil and I had been expelled on the basis of
Clause 2 of Order No. 505 dated April 22,
signed by the rector.
This order was removed from the official
website.
Right now, the dormitory building houses
a very large number of
international students,
as well as students from the Russian Federation,
who cannot leave it.
They are very frightened and are in an extremely
distressed emotional state.
That is why I say this is chaos. And this is not even
some story from far away; this is Moscow.
It is not as if some news came from somewhere far away in the Urals
about a petty tyrant boss in a village forbidding people
to leave a dormitory. This is all happening in Moscow.
People are posting videos online,
saying: guys, they have locked everything down here completely.
I mean, no one is getting in, no one is getting out,
and nothing is happening at all, because
nobody understands the basic concept here:
what are we doing — keeping them locked up, or allowing them
to move around? The countries that are
handling the spread of the
coronavirus much better than we are give people
They allow people to run, for example, to exercise,
to do physical exercise, and generally just walk more,
while keeping a certain distance. Here, on the one hand,
there’s chaos, and on the other hand,
they’re looking for someone to blame, and overall the strategy is completely unclear.
That is, it’s just totally unclear.
Putin has spoken four times, and we still
haven’t understood what the plan is, but
apparently we’ve understood that there is no plan at all, and
all this nonsense
— what I showed, with people being kept in a hostel,
people being kept in a dormitory — is happening against the backdrop of
the fact that I posted — and I was
the first to post —
an order from the head of the Moscow Department of Health,
Aleksei (Alexei) Khripun, and in it
it simply says that, actually,
people who are sick with
coronavirus, but are not in serious condition,
are now being sent home. The order exists — please show it.
Can we take a look at this
order? Here it is. So, in order to keep
hospitals from being overcrowded, people are
told — doctors tell them — to sign
a voluntary consent form, a refusal of
hospitalization under outpatient conditions,
and that’s it. And this sick person, a person with coronavirus,
goes home — whether they take him there or
however it happens — in theory he is supposed to
self-isolate. He shouldn’t be out and about, but
the fact is that they are sending people home from the hospital.
So then why are we keeping healthy people locked up?
Or people whose status is unknown — healthy or not healthy?
You do a test — look outside or in
the metro, people are riding around, and we don’t understand
whether they’re healthy or sick, but they look
exactly like these students; outwardly they seem fine,
no one is dragging them anywhere, while we send sick people
home. And one of the most monstrous stories
that happened in this regard is about
this woman. When they sent me
— a small digression here — when they sent me
the order, which in general
looks reasonable, and hospitals shouldn’t
necessarily keep everyone
who is asymptomatic or almost asymptomatic.
Doctors wrote to me: “Alexei, look,”
“they’ve created this arrangement. It looks
reasonable, but under that cover they’ll simply
do this: an elderly woman is lying there, she’s sick, and
a doctor comes up to her. Naturally, she’s afraid of him,
she’ll do whatever he says. He says,
‘Ma’am, sign this voluntary
consent form. We’re sending you home.’ Great, right?
‘Doctor, home?’ — ‘Yes, yes, yes…’
And she’s been lying there for three days,
‘What procedures have they done for you?’
She says, ‘None.’ Well then, basically,
that’s it — right, let’s send you home.’
So they just send her home like that,
simply in order to
shift responsibility off themselves.
And when I suggested this, many
officials were outraged: ‘How can you
even suggest such a thing?’
And then this one video showed how such cases
lead to absolutely monstrous
situations. People like this are then transported
by what they call a ‘social taxi’.
So, they’re in the hospital with coronavirus,
in the hospital.
A doctor comes up and says, ‘Want to go home? Then go,’ and
this social taxi picks up several people
and drives them around.
And we all saw the video. Let’s
watch it — I’ll comment off
camera — showing how this social taxi
arrives, and they help a woman out. The woman —
there was no one at home for her.
A common situation: she’s in the hospital,
her relatives weren’t expecting her. They take
this woman by the arm — she’s clearly in bad shape — and sit her down on
a bench. As you can see, she’s really
feeling pretty awful.
But apparently, according to them, everything is fine. You can see the exchange:
‘Everything’s fine.’ And then she lies down, lies down on
the bench. Hardly normal. And this happened, I think,
not long ago.
It was cold, and a woman doesn’t lie down outside in the cold
on a bench because she’s enjoying life
or feeling well. But
it all ended with the taxi
driving away, and the woman died. She had just been discharged from
the hospital, and she died.
It’s unclear whether this mattered, but in
that same taxi
there was also a woman named Olga Gracheva.
She is a high-ranking Moscow
official. Later, the media outlet *Baza* reported
on this and established that when
they were sending several people
home to recover, this
senior official was among them.
It’s hard to say for sure, but here she is,
you can see her here, circled.
Naturally, she very much wanted
to go home, and this social taxi didn’t stop.
But honestly, in general,
they had no right to take out of
that taxi a person who was in such bad shape
that she lay down on a bench. If you see
a person collapse onto
a bench, what do you do? You call an ambulance.
They didn’t call one — they put her on a bench,
and then took the official on home. But
again, we don’t know whether she said, ‘You see,
take me home, let her die,’ or whether, on the contrary,
she said something else. Maybe it had nothing to do with her at all.
Maybe none of this happened because of her. But nevertheless,
the fact remains a fact.
I’m simply saying this to show
that on the one hand, they catch someone,
drag them somewhere, take them away, lock them up in some
dormitory, while on the other hand: ‘Oh, you’re sick,
you’ve got coronavirus, you’re having trouble, ma’am,
breathing? Well, lie down on the bench, have a rest,
for a bit, maybe they’ll let you go in a moment,’
and she died. And who was punished for that?
No one was held accountable for it—they just discharged her.
And now the doctor says, “Well, look…”
After all, she signed voluntary consent.
Not everyone signs voluntary consent, though.
People do sign voluntary consent forms, you know.
You were in the hospital yourself—it doesn’t matter whether you’re there...
an elderly person who is afraid of doctors
or a young person who
well, the point is, a doctor in a hospital is
a doctor, yes, and he carries that kind of authority.
...just lie there and then go home.
That’s it, he went home and died on a bench.
There’s a piece of paper saying that you refused
hospitalization—there, everything is in order, and that’s it.
I mean, this is truly an absolutely monstrous
situation that shows the chaos and
irresponsibility. No one has been punished.
What, did someone resign? Did anyone apologize?
To whom, exactly, is this investigation even accountable?
Did they jail anyone? But of course it’s unclear
who could even be jailed for this.
What do you do about it? Well, this is how it happens.
And this is just the case that happened to be caught on
video.
And there was a female official there, so it became
a huge scandal. But can you imagine
how many people are simply discharged, and then
they die somewhere, and they say, well,
“cardiovascular failure,” or
“her kidneys failed,” you know, or there was
cancer, and so she died of cancer.
“We have nothing to do with it.” Well, of course.
It’s just that against the background of the cancer,
her lungs failed, yes. There are so many different
questions. Alex asks me—my name is Alexei now,
There’s a lot of news right now about the purchase of grenades and
other weapons by the National Guard (Rosgvardiya, Russia’s internal security force).
Please share your thoughts on this news.
Well, this whole story was actually dug up by
a member of our RosPil project team (an anti-corruption project focused on public procurement).
He really did publish the procurement notice.
The National Guard is buying them, and it’s actually written there as
“combat offensive grenades.”
Some number of units—
I’m afraid to get it wrong—worth around 70 million rubles (about US$750,000 at current rates).
So, that means tens of thousands of grenades.
So why does the National Guard need them?
Still, the National Guard used to be
the Internal Troops; they have various kinds of
weapons. But why grenades? After all, we do have
an army—a very, very large army—that has
a great many grenades already.
It shows their priorities, doesn’t it? They have no money
for anything—we can’t buy masks for people—but
grenades, those we absolutely have to buy right now.
Of course, they’re not going to start tomorrow
throwing these grenades at you just because you’re
going to the store, but in general, of course...
Putin and Zolotov (Viktor Zolotov, head of the National Guard) clearly think
they really do view the National Guard as
their own punitive guard,
needed to suppress the population
when the population is, quite justifiably,
driven to the brink—when people are
already howling in despair. They seem to think
people have forgotten about General Zolotov. Should we
be afraid or not? Well, they should be afraid of grenades,
so they bought 67 million rubles’ worth,
and they think: we’ll just bomb everything, no problem.
That’s really how they think. And again, this is about
priorities, you see. If
they—even as was said at the beginning of
the program, as Pozner said at the start
of the broadcast—I showed you a clip
where he says to us:
“Come on, in this difficult time
let’s close ranks and support the government.”
Fine—but then let the government not
buy grenades right now. If they really, really
want to buy grenades, let them buy them
in three months, please. But right now,
maybe they could buy medical masks and
hand them out? No, they don’t do that. But
grenades—those, of course, must be purchased.
So, Tracy asks me:
Sberbank has moved on to COVID testing—what do you
think about that? I’m not sure I understand the question.
Is Sberbank doing it for everyone who wants it, or for its own
employees? In any case, when it comes to testing,
I’m all for it. I believe that right now everyone
should be doing a great deal of testing.
It’s the most important strategy, and so far
our state still hasn’t properly declared it as such.
It needs to be done. There are a lot of questions and
complaints.
In connection with my livestream yesterday, let me
explain myself.
Ninety thousand people are watching us live right now.
You can see the button here that says
“Become a sponsor,” a friend of our channel, and
you can subscribe and support us with
the money this all runs on. Yesterday I
did a kind of closed livestream that
at its peak was watched by 320 people, and overall
about 2,000 people can watch it.
And this livestream could be watched by
sponsors at levels 2, 3, and 4. I saw a lot of
comments like, “Alexei, have you
completely lost it? What do you mean
by ‘elite Navalny news,’
an ‘elite livestream’? I’m subscribed, I
share links, I’m fully committed,
I volunteer, but I can’t give money,”
“and now there are some special broadcasts for the privileged?”
Guys, it’s very simple.
Do you want me to do
advertising collaborations or
some other things? This is a big
YouTube channel. Our main YouTube channel
with videos is even bigger. We could make a lot
of money if I came on here and said,
‘Putin is a scoundrel, and by the way,’
‘this program is brought to you
in partnership with Rosneft,’
‘please use Rosneft gas stations.’
We do not do advertising, and you
can be absolutely sure that
I never take a single kopek from anyone.
No donations of any kind, whether
sponsorships or anything else, and we do not
take money from anyone. We are not dependent on anyone.
But this is, in a way, a kind of
compromise, and the understanding is this:
we say that we will not take anything from anyone,
we will just do our job well,
but then, well, give us something
so that we can buy cameras and pay
salaries to people and rent an office. That is why
we have these subscriptions, and within
the subscription model I will do private
streams, not very often, and these
private streams
are not, you know, some place where
I will supposedly make some kind of news there
or produce more interesting news
or share insider information.
The only “inside scoop” there was
that I explained how I
was recording and showed a short video
of myself recording under a blanket
at home, making a segment for a video, for, for
the little ones that we will discuss today. So
it is more of a conversation with those who are
so invested in promoting our
channel that they subscribed, and it is very important for us
to get some feedback from you. Well,
it is hard to gather feedback from hundreds of thousands of people,
so this is more like a group
of people discussing how to further
develop YouTube, how to further develop
the channel. I answer questions there, and this
really is, I mean, something we want
to do as a nice thing for everyone. We work for everyone,
but people also support us
financially, and we want to do something
extra nice for them. There are many
tools for this in the West; over there
politicians raise money by
having dinner with someone. For us, that sounds
a bit strange, you know, that you can buy a dinner with
Navalny (Alexei Navalny, Russian opposition politician).
But we really did seriously consider
something like that, and probably still are considering it.
If money is needed, we will probably
do things like that — send postcards, some kind of
I do not know, and little ducks float across the screen here,
so there will probably be some way to get
more ducks. These are just tokens of attention. We do not have any
exclusive information,
though of course it is very important for us to additionally
talk with people who have
a somewhat higher level of involvement.
But please do not worry about
the idea that I somehow have
news for the rich and news for those
who do not pay. When it comes to
politics, everything here is absolutely the same for everyone.
The only division is in the
organizational side: some people are more
immersed and involved, while others are less
immersed and involved. But that is normal; that is how it
will be. Returning to the point: 91,000 people are
watching Kafer.
As for the idea that we supposedly have no right
to criticize our state and that we must
rally together — this is now being implemented in a rather
interesting way, probably.
The loudest case that happened over the
past week involved a footballer.
I do not think they will be happy to hear
this at the Samara football club, the club
Krylia Sovetov ("Wings of the Soviets," a Russian football club).
But their goalkeeper, Yevgeny Frolov, he is
a decent guy. He gave an interview, and in
that interview he said things that, I think,
the whole country is saying right now — basically,
what our government is doing,
is it helping anyone? No, it is helping no one.
It is not helping. In general,
it was a harmless interview. He did not say that
Putin is a thief, he did not say that
Sechin (Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft) should be hanged, and he did not say that they all
should be arrested. He simply said
the most obvious things,
the things that are on everyone’s mind. Let us
listen. One minute and five seconds: “There is no
coronavirus for them.
They are making us stay at home, while there is absolutely no
help from the state at all, and
on top of that they are fining all of us for it. They do not care about the people.
They need us like serfs, like a labor
force — serfdom, call it whatever you want,”
not “Christian law.”
To clarify: serfdom. “The authorities simply do not give a damn about you,
they will just brush you off and say, ‘Guys,
there is no money, but hang in there’ (a well-known phrase associated with former Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev). They have money for everything
for themselves; for ordinary people there is
nothing. Look at the rest of the world — America,
Europe — many, many countries are really
helping their citizens, helping them
financially. Here in Russia, none of that exists.
What the president says on television
is all empty talk. There are no real
actions at all.”
And where is he wrong? Where is even a single word of falsehood here?
It is the truth: they are giving us absolutely no money.
It is all very strange — serfdom,
really. For them there is no coronavirus;
they run around here and there, and whatever rules
of self-isolation they are not following. They are giving us nothing.
He said it exactly as it is.
Right now, together with him, tens of
millions of people are saying the same thing along with Yevgeny Frolov.
So his club watched
this video, or someone watched it and
snitched on him, came and said:
can you imagine, he went out there and
said that our government
is doing nothing, and that President Putin
is speaking empty words.
And they did not even hesitate — they have now announced
that they are outraged. The club’s management
declared its disagreement with the athlete
and highly praised the support from the
country’s leadership, and said that he
would be punished. Punished for what?
testimony, I mean, you can see it right here
how cunningly and, I would say, how quickly
this censorship tool works in general.
This is absolutely illegal, and yet they
are publicly saying that they will commit, with regard to
our goalkeeper, something absolutely
illegal that they have no right
to do under any circumstances, because he
simply expressed his rather
neutral political opinion, and they will
punish him because they want to curry favor.
And all of this is being said with some kind of
official, state-like air, with all these
regalia, and of course, what did I do?
I immediately went to look up who
owns Krylia Sovetov (a Russian football club; literally "Wings of the Soviets"). Of course,
it belongs to the region.
It belongs to the oblast (regional government), and it is run by it.
This club was allocated money from the budget, and from
the overall federal budget, it receives
1.6 billion rubles a year, while 1.3 billion rubles are provided by the region.
That is, this club gets up to 80
percent of its funding from the people—
from the budget. In other words, from the very people whom
the goalkeeper Frolov was, in fact, standing up for.
And from those people
they first collected 2 billion rubles,
and then
gave it to this club, and now the management
is punishing a guy who said just two
words. And what's more, I immediately
looked into it. Fine, the goalkeeper—but the Accounts Chamber
audited this club's budget and
said that the club's low level of achievement
and its instability indicate
the inefficiency of budget investments in
the club's development.
That's from the Accounts Chamber report. So
the official picture looks like this:
there are talentless crooks from the
regional government of Samara Oblast (a federal region in Russia)
who received billions and are doing a very
poor job of managing them,
and on top of that they go after their own goalkeeper and punish
him. In other words, these people are basically—
the Accounts Chamber says that they
are making ineffective budget
investments—they ought to be hiding under
the bed and keeping quiet, because the Accounts Chamber
already nailed them on this. But no, they
have to crawl out of their own hole
and punish their goalkeeper. And of course, once
these first crooks crawled out,
then, from somewhere in the depths of United Russia (the ruling political party),
there emerged the very embodiment of
United Russia in power, in all its
stupidity, all its idiocy, all this
mockery of the Russian
parliament—and that is, of course,
State Duma deputy Nikolai
Valuev. He is the man who writes
our laws. So this deputy came out and
uttered, in a tone of great dignity,
the following phrase: "Maybe Frolov wanted
to cite other countries as examples where they don't do things
like this. But in what sunny country of
Lumumba—damn it—do they not act this way?
Then he shouldn't go off to Lumumba and live
a free life there.
"To eat at breakneck speed and not pay...
Let him find some country that's so free
in every respect and go live there,
wherever and however he wants." You see? So now
Nikolai Valuev is going to tell everyone
how we should live. Why—
why should Frolov
have to go off to "Lumumba"?
What's more, first he has to pay the salaries
of Valuev and his colleagues,
who are simply complete idiots and thieves.
First we have to pay all of them, we
have to keep funding this club inefficiently,
and then Nikolai Valuev comes along and says,
"Go off to Lumumba if you don't like
something here." What Lumumba? We already
live in "Lumumba" because of Nikolai Valuev and
this United Russia—they have turned our
country into a Third World country where there is no
rule of law, where people in power are just empty
words, as Frolov said, where people sit in office
who don't know how to do anything. That is
the real giant "Lumumba."
It is, in fact, pretending that
it isn't. Damn it, good Lord, I studied at
Patrice Lumumba University (the former Soviet name for RUDN University), and separately I should say
this is rather offensive, and he was actually quite a
cool guy, by the way. I mean,
but for Valuev—he understands
nothing—so for him
"Lumumba" is this kind of
insulting epithet. We are dealing with
a kind of "Lumumba" that has disguised itself
as a supposedly very great country,
because of course here we have
held a parade, we will hold a parade, we
handed out ribbons, we're very great—go off
to another country. But those other countries
are places like Germany, which
is paying money; the United States, which is paying
$1,200 to each person right now;
the United Kingdom; Japan, which is paying
money; South Korea, which did an excellent job
of beating the coronavirus epidemic—those are
not any kind of "Lumumba." We are the ones living in "Lumumba," but apparently we
are supposed, you understand, to give way to people like
Nikolai Valuev.
Smart Voting—how did we elect him?
Why should he be a deputy? That is
the task for everyone, plain and simple:
to make sure that this very stupid man, who
cannot be a deputy, who
understands absolutely nothing—he may have been
some great boxer, fine, great,
let him be a boxer, excellent, Nikolai Valuev,
we'll give you another medal, and maybe
10 or 30 more medals,
you were great—but what are you doing in the
State Duma if you can't even
To speak, not to write, not to think—why there?
to be located, but is located, and the whole team is all on
minutes
So, within the framework of Smart Voting,
we have to push him out of there; he shouldn’t be there
He shouldn’t be there, and so it will be
very frustrating. What can you do—he’ll run in the
single-member district, and again they’ll
of course clear the field, remove all
the competitors, and push him through again, and he’ll
just sit there like this, looking on
I really don’t understand what’s going on, but once
a year he spouts some nonsense about how
if someone doesn’t like that I’m sitting here
sitting here
then go from here to Lumumba (a reference to Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow), because they
supposedly have support. They have no support
at all. They have nothing except
the falsification of these elections. It’s very
important. Let me take a couple of questions.
to your mister chit in both of your
sir—this is, this is, this is a person’s name
to your mister... anyway, a question about
Vladimir Solovyov—will he be allowed tomorrow
to leave the country, because
departure is being allowed for all holders of residence permits, and we
will miss Vladimir Solovyov
Indeed, the government has adopted
a decision under which it now allows
people to leave Russia if they have a residence
permit. Vladimir Solovyov, as well as his whole
family, as is well known, hold
residence permits in Italy, and they
really can go there now; everything is already
fine there now, better, easier
He can get off our backs and head to Lake Como, and from there
they’ll lecture us again from there
telling us that we should
go to Lumumba (Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow). Generation of the ’90s asks:
Please comment on the mosaic with Putin and
other “saints” in the Armed Forces Cathedral
By the way, that cathedral was built where
I spent most of my life, in that
military settlement, the village of Kalininets
though everywhere they call it Alabino there
They built that Patriot Park nearby on the
training ground, and this structure is of gigantic
proportions—a cathedral, and in a place where
no one is going to go. People wrote to me
several times, and believers there
came up to me and said, “Alexei, you just
don’t understand the problem with this cathedral. Actually,
the Russian Orthodox Church seems rich, but
at the grassroots level, people live very
poorly because there’s never enough money for anyone
ever. And the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, for example,
is a huge structure; it devours enormous
budgets, and is basically maintained
by the city, but nevertheless
huge sums go into its upkeep, and there in
Alabino they built—you just can’t imagine what
what kind of
scale of structure. And in a place where
there are no parishioners—there are no parishioners there, no
communities. You can hold some kind of
ceremonial events there, probably herd in
soldiers so they can pretend that
they’re praying. But in itself, what
is happening is the height of idiocy, and
of course those mosaics with Putin, Spo
lonsky, whoever else—well, what is there
to comment on? These people, they’re
building a little cult of personality
They sat down and commissioned all of this because
they wanted to immortalize themselves for the ages. I don’t
think they’ll succeed, but that is
exactly what they were aiming for. Like, here we are
with our mugs here—this is God’s
temple
Probably even a different government
would be embarrassed to chip us out of there. No,
it won’t be embarrassed—someday, believe me,
a different government, of course. But then this
this is simply, truly
blasphemy and mockery of God’s
temple. Dmitry Ushakov asks:
There’s enough material for one program a week
and it’s becoming a lot—maybe it’s time
to go on air twice a week? You wouldn’t
manage twice a week
It would be hard for me, yes. The thing is that
there really is so much
happening. I’ve already been live for an hour now
and the script has only gotten through about
one third. If we do it twice a
week—well, twice a week
it’ll come out to two and a half hours each. Well, I
actually have thought about it, but
in the end I thought that probably twice a
week would be too much. I’m being
told that we already have 6,000
sponsors—that is, six thousand people
who clicked the button and
joined us and became the people
who, well, support our channel
to a greater extent. I urge everyone
to click those buttons, including so that later
you can watch my
streams, Sobol’s streams, and everyone else’s, where
we just sort of keep discussing things further
and develop the channel. A lot of questions are about
a strange news story, a strange story
that came out of Ust-Kut, where supposedly
at first they wrote that local residents, some men,
caught and beat up officials who
wanted to set the forest on fire
This is probably exactly that
rare case where some
news happened and, honestly, I still
don’t understand what happened. I mean, I’ll
tell you about it, but I don’t have
any clear opinion because
the whole thing looks rather strange. At first
they said that some men caught and beat up
officials who wanted to set the forest on fire
then they said that one of the officials
caught and beat up the other officials
who allegedly wanted to set the forest on fire, and then
They say the mayor of Ust-Kut caught
some other people from his own city administration and
beat them up on his own territory because
they were allegedly trying to set the forest on fire. Let's
watch the video, 53 seconds.
Here are three canisters of gasoline too, yes, I believe that.
So, on April 28, at around five o'clock
in the evening, a boat arrived at the agricultural lands
at Kamni and they tried to set fire not to the forest nearby
Yekaterina Anisimova, all together
a handsome guy from Kyiv was there too
they were caught red-handed.
All of this sounds strange and
well, I mean, the first version of the story is
that some guys caught them and beat them up,
while they were trying to set the forest on fire.
That seemed understandable, because back in 2010,
if I remember correctly, forests were burning across
the whole country.
That was when the well-known incident happened with
State Duma deputy Burmatov,
who was a representative of the youth wing
of United Russia (the ruling political party), and he was caught because
they would go out somewhere as volunteers
supposedly to put out forest fires, but they were actually looking for
a real fire—they wanted one badly enough.
So they would drive up, set the forest on fire, then supposedly
take photos of themselves putting it out, and
leave. They were caught doing that and exposed.
It was a big scandal. Burmatov
basically disappeared somewhere for several years,
hid under the bed, and now he's crawled back out again
and is giving a lot of comments.
He's a typical United Russia man, but still
old-timers remember that, so at first I
thought this was the same kind of story. Then
it turned out they were all officials there.
So as for what happened in Ust-Kut,
I'm flooded with questions. The answer is: I don't know what
happened there. Some kind of
very strange story took place. Maybe
local residents listening can shed some light on it.
I see a question from Vlad Dolnikov.
It's signed right there, Dolnikov. He's asking me
a question in this vein: Alexei,
do you get a pass for trips to the
dacha and for going out onto the street in general?
Why is it a loaded question? Because Vlad
is a very good person who helps us
a lot all the time. He's in IT, and
he also has a fairly large Telegram channel,
and he's a principled opponent of these
passes and urges people not to use them
because they're not legal. I also
think this is illegal. Today, a big
comment on this was given by our head of legal,
the former head of the legal department,
our lawyer Ivan Zhdanov.
He explains there why all these
penalties for
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for the fact that, say, you go outside and
the police stop you somewhere—are absolutely
illegal. All these police reports are illegal.
But I can say this: I traveled a couple of days
ago, and I did get a pass, because, well, in
my situation, it's just that I
am under a certain level of monitoring,
so if I don't get a pass,
then basically I just won't be able to get anywhere.
I absolutely consider all of this illegal. I
absolutely think this is a gigantic,
meaningless scam
by the Moscow city government.
But still, I can't unequivocally tell everyone,
guys, don't get a pass,
fight with the cops when they stop you.
I can't say that to everyone, because
in the end, the person will get fined. This is exactly
the kind of situation in which
some of us
are forced to comply with certain
illegal, humiliating rules, well,
because they are forced to—say,
because they simply need to go somewhere,
so I got a pass. But I
completely share Vladislav's opinion
that this is absolutely not
legal.
Spooky Vans writes: Alexei, if this stream
lasts less than two and a half hours,
we'll organize a DoS attack. No need
to organize one, because judging by
it, this stream won't be very short either.
Excellent question. Ksenia Kuznetsova: Alexei,
hello. Russia has allocated 10
million to fight locusts in Africa.
How would you comment on that?
There really was news about this, which of course
infuriated everyone, because the United Nations
through its Twitter account
cheerfully announced that Russia
had joined the global initiative
to fight locusts in Africa and had allocated 10
million dollars, and of course everyone was
furious.
They're allocating money to Africa, but not to us.
The thing is, of course money should be allocated,
because it's a major problem in Africa,
and not only in Africa—with global
warming, we could end up with
the same problem too, so this is something
that needs to be addressed. But the outrage is understandable, because
sure, 10 million dollars for Africa
is not a lot of money for a useful cause, but
then give something to your own citizens too.
That's exactly the point. The whole thing is that 10
million is a laughably small amount for the
state, but at the same time it's important money—
for an entire city, even several cities,
you could distribute masks for free
and buy a huge number of ventilators
with that money. But it wouldn't even occur to us
to compare these things if they were actually
helping their own citizens
and spending money on them. So
overall, I think those 10 million dollars should have been spent on
something useful at home.
this matters, and it matters for all of humanity, but
in this particular situation, it looks
offensive, because we can’t even
buy something as basic as boots for our hospital staff
for medical workers for a whole month,
for more than a month—almost two months—I’ve been showing you every day
videos of some kind of
ruined, destroyed hospitals, and
here we are sending $10 million somewhere
to help Italy, from the U.S., and everything
else—this is just absolutely
absurd. So sign the Five Steps
petition. You see, it keeps popping up endlessly
right here on the screen, and it will
keep appearing—I just want you
to sign it. There was a question here: my
parents are afraid. They fully support
the Five Steps program, but they’re afraid
to sign it because they’re afraid
It’s striking how badly everyone has been intimidated, if
people are genuinely afraid to put their names
on online petitions because
their surname will appear under some kind of
anti-government text. That’s
of course quite a remarkable shift in our
collective mindset, because, my God,
it’s such a harmless thing—not going to a rally,
just signing a petition online, not
that I’m criticizing anyone—I’m simply talking about
how quickly and how severely
the state is degrading. Every one of us has probably thought
about Stalin-era times (the period of Joseph Stalin’s rule in the USSR),
or about what is happening now
in North Korea, when we see
those wild videos where there’s this
still-alive, current Kim Jong-un, and
before him all the other
rulers, and people run after them, cry,
write things down in little notebooks, and we watch
and laugh, thinking: how did people come to this? But
that’s exactly how. Look how quickly it
happens. It seemed like everything was still
normal not so long ago, and now already
someone gets punished for criticism on the internet,
even the goalkeeper of Krylia Sovetov (a Russian football club) was
penalized, fined for
saying something completely harmless.
These people are being kept in dormitories, and in general
we’re already afraid just to sign a petition
online, and tomorrow we’ll be afraid of something else
too. That’s exactly how it works.
So there’s no need to be afraid. Explain to your parents
that this is absolutely
safe. Nothing will happen. But the most
important thing is: they’re still politicians,
they’re not monsters who’ll all suddenly start trembling
and fainting—but that’s what happens with us
all the time, you understand. This
entire government is really just a tiny
cockroach; tomorrow nothing will be left of it.
They will do whatever we
say, if we truly
demand it. Realize your own power. And yes,
they won’t literally tremble and faint—well, specifically
not the people watching these broadcasts, but the whole country
as a whole, yes. And that is our
biggest problem. Still, we can see
how the rhetoric is changing radically. The protest
in Yakutia (a republic in Russia’s Far East) that took place this
week was very telling. I think
whether to show you this video or not
—it’s 1 minute 40 seconds long, and it contains a lot of
profanity. We tried to
bleep it out, because otherwise we would have had to bleep half
the video. But it’s simply an excellent example of how
things have changed at these regional
protests. The rhetoric there—at the Kondinskoye
field, I think it belongs to Gazprom,
it’s an oil field, and there are
a lot of shift workers there.
And it all turned into an outbreak hotspot.
Naturally, there was basically no protective equipment.
People started getting sick; some of them were
taken away, and accordingly everyone was told that
they were under quarantine. And as so often happens,
as it often does in Russia, under
quarantine they were confined, but the living
conditions were bad, they were fed poorly, and these people
had come there to do
very hard work for very good
pay, obviously, and they want
to be fed properly. But the authorities do not
degrade in parts—they degrade all at once.
It’s systemic. Even all these state
corporations understand that
since the people have no rights and you’re the powerful one,
the state can do whatever
it wants, and a state company can also do
more or less whatever it wants, including
in particular
not feeding its workers properly. Then there was a protest.
And if earlier protests of this kind
used to be, you know, in the format of
well, not exactly ‘let’s get down on our
knees before Vladimir Putin’—although
there was some of that too—but they
were more like: let’s
appeal to the authorities, let’s
call on them somehow, and they would appeal: Vladimir
Vladimirovich (Putin’s patronymic), but here the rhetoric was completely
different. Let’s listen to this 40-
They herded us all together
with all kinds of infected people, didn’t they?
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[applause]
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[applause]
[laughter]
with you.
There are 10,000 people working there, and a huge
number are infected. Everyone there has now
been tested, but the results of those tests
still aren’t available.
And all of this is continuing, and that’s why it is
important.
Although it’s a rather strange video recording:
Gazprom workers just ran around swearing at the bosses,
and people applauded—well, it’s clear that
They were talking about these... and about how they...
They were talking about this government, and somehow...
In a word, they were reacting sharply even to the word “president,” well...
even...
They can’t even pay them properly, and neither can they pay us...
Oil workers on shift duty—good Lord—they have always...
been paid huge sums, and even there they can’t...
they can’t even pay properly, I mean...
organize some kind of system. This is not...
I don’t know—some kind of separate isolation there, or...
something like that. Nothing is happening, and this...
conflict is escalating. Today I saw...
a video showing that they had already blocked the roads and were not...
letting vehicles through to the work site. Let’s...
watch 22 seconds. “We’re striking over pay, we...”},{
are on strike, we’ve blocked the roads, they’re not letting...
our people...
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I keep saying that things like this...
are extremely important, because when people say...
People often write to me asking, “When will it all begin?”
Guys, it will all start with strikes. Everything...
will start with strikes. It will all start with...
trade unions, when people like this at these...
oil and gas fields—when they finally come out and...
block things off—what are you going to do to them then? Well, let...
them try. What can you do? Now they’ll start...
stalling / stringing people along...
They’ll probably open a criminal case against someone...
but overall that will not solve the problem, it won’t...
solve anything. And when people start coming out...
and production stops, then...
this regime will start falling apart piece by piece. And it is very...
important to support people like this at these...
work sites, because, well, if...
I’ll repeat: if those who sit on top of the oil wealth...
in the richest company cannot...
whatever they’re shouting about there—tape or whatever—can’t even provide...
decent food and cannot provide them with...
proper testing conditions, then what should...
everyone else expect? By the way...
in Murmansk...
Did you know that in Murmansk, at a specific...
Novatek facility...
since...
Mikhelson has several times been the...
richest man in Russia—a billionaire...
a billionaire among billionaires, really, absolutely...
on a massive scale—and their facility in...
Murmansk Region has now become one...
of the biggest infection clusters there. I think...
it’s 3,200—if I’m giving you the exact figure...
Well, that is, according to official data there...
more than 800 people are infected; in reality...
it’s much more. Let’s take a look. So...
why did the outbreak happen?
Because, as usual, everything was concentrated in one place...
while the cops were running around catching people somewhere else...
and there they were creating huge lines, but...
at the work site there was no such thing as social distancing...
so people were infecting one another...
This is what that queue looked like. Let’s watch 26...
seconds.
[music]
world...
and his speech...
frames...
and here we are, still working...
So, as usual...
they made them stand in lines, and then...
it turned out that hundreds of people there...
were infected. They said, “Okay, hundreds of people...
are infected.” Then the governor...
came out and said, “There will be a quarantine. We are introducing...
a quarantine. Everyone goes home.” Naturally, everyone...
could see that there was no quarantine at all. Here’s a video...
29 seconds long, showing that everyone could calmly...
go into the city of Murmansk or anywhere else...
Let’s watch. Look, a bus has just pulled up...
the bus brought them in. You see, not a single mask...
on anyone. Look how many people there are...
I can’t count them, I don’t even know how many— they...
just keep coming and coming and coming and coming...
So much for self-isolation—the management...
is allowing them to move around like this through the settlement...
They’re simply brought here by bus, and they...
just do this...
stock up on groceries and all sorts of things...
And now there are about a thousand infected there according to...
official data; according to unofficial reports...
in particular, lists were passed to our штаб (campaign office/headquarters)...
by locals who work there, showing nearly...
3,000 infected. But at least according to...
the information coming in, no one really...
knows. No one really knows...
how to deal with this, what to do with...
these workers. And this is Novatek...
whose owner has billions—many...
many billions of dollars, which...
he earned to become one of the very...
richest people—and this is what is happening to his...
workers. So I’m simply...
calling on you, guys, to strike. It’s clear that, well...
it may seem impossible, but it...
is actually easy if you show...
a little persistence, because the whole history...
of strikes—I’ve said this many times—is not...
just the story of the last ten years, but...
20 years—really, the analyzed history...
of strikes over 150 years shows that people always...
achieve their goals. Wherever you...
work, call for strikes...
and strike against any...
injustice. If you show...
some persistence, and your comrades do not...
sell you out in the first five minutes, and you...
manage to agree among yourselves, then you will almost certainly...
win, because there is nothing they can do to you...
they can’t do anything. And now, let me ask...
Dmitry Taratuta.
Alexei, what is your attitude toward the low...
level of trust in Putin—28%, according to some forecasts?
Well, it is obvious that his rating is falling, and...
they’re not giving people money, people are suffering, and so...
now they have this idea—just as Peskov said—that...
in a month and a half we will all forget about this...
and we’ll just go back to...
dealing with whatever difficulties there are...
We had faced difficulties before.
That is exactly what they are counting on—that it will simply
now all the restrictions will be lifted, and they will stop
talking about it, stop recording people
as being sick.
And then, after some time, supposedly
people will muddle through, and everything will settle down.
Their ratings will start going back up. That is very important,
because they have elections in September, and they
do not want you and me to crush them
through Smart Voting. Besides, they also have
that vote on
the Constitution, which they are going to shove down our throats.
And, well, they will simply compensate, as usual,
by making sure there is a very
very strong and very
blatant lie about how everyone supports Putin,
about what a wonderful leader Putin is.
As Posner said again at the very
beginning of our program, everyone who is against it
is supposedly going against the absolute majority. We are
still going to be told that
those who love Putin are the absolute
majority. That is no longer true at all—not
online, not offline. It is simply not
true, and it is very important for you and me to understand that.
That is why pressure through the network is needed.
First of all, there are a great many questions
about what is happening in the courts. Second, it is important simply
to talk about it, because there was a
rally there.
That rally was broken up in a very underhanded
way, and now people there—well, there
are basically three things happening there
that we need to pay attention to. On the one
hand, they are repressing the local
population. As a result, five people received
administrative arrests.
They are already fabricating charges under
the hooliganism statute; two people were detained supposedly for
alleged hooligan actions. In other words,
as usual, several thousand
people came out, and the entire republic supports
them, but everyone is sitting and waiting to see what
will happen next. After that, our authorities and the Investigative
Committee simply arrest random people
just so that, once again,
like a cockroach scaring animals,
the animals will tremble and faint
from fear. They just grabbed several people,
arrested them, dragged them off somewhere, and that was that.
Oh my God, they arrested him, so tomorrow
they will arrest me too—and so everyone stays silent.
Although if everyone demanded it, tomorrow they would
release them all, as we have actually
seen happen several times before, though not with such
targeted repression.
But there is something remarkable there, and
I am always criticizing the police, but there
is a great, honest police officer there who
even spoke out publicly. He said that he
would not take part in beating down his own
people. In other words, he is a decent
guy.
They fired him. What can you do—this is a police force that
what does the police do?
Its purpose is to protect villains from good
people. They fired him. He even recorded a
video address in which he thanked people for
their support. Good for him. So
someone like that should be supported. Let us
watch his address now—it is a minute and a half
long.
Well done, young man. "Greetings to you, kind
people.
I have always believed that in our vast
country there are many kind, responsive, and
compassionate people, and now, from my own
experience, I am convinced of it. I am receiving
a great many messages and
calls asking me to post my bank details
and give sincere
people the opportunity to help me financially. Please do not take
my refusal as rudeness.
I do not see any urgent need for money, and
there are no hopeless situations. If I had
been chasing money, if money had
mattered more to me than anything else, then I
would have stayed on the sidelines and next year
received a housing certificate worth
4 million rubles or more, but
money is nothing—here today, gone tomorrow,
whereas honor and dignity stay with us
always.
And after death, I want to stand before
my ancestors
with my head held high. There is only
one thing I would ask of you:
pray for my family.
That is far more valuable, and my gratitude
will know no bounds. Thank you sincerely,
thank you for your compassion, for your understanding, for
your support."
Well, you see—a decent, honest person.
He worked in the police, and then
he refused. He said, yes, I am not going to disperse
my own people. How could I beat them?
For what? My neighbor is right—am I supposed
to beat him, and have someone drag him away?
He refused. So what, did they destroy him? No, they fired him.
That was his choice. If everyone there had refused,
and written letters, and there had been a collective
appeal, no one would have been fired.
Nothing terrible happened to him, but it means
he was fired alone, and they just crushed him
and devoured him.
On the contrary, everyone loves him. He is a good
person. I hope everything will be
all right for him. In any case, he is a
respected man in the republic. As for those
who carried out the dispersal—they are ashamed, but they sit
at home and tell each other, well,
if it had not been us, they would have found others.
And they come up with a million other justifications
for their own meanness and cowardice. But every one of
them
envies this normal,
free, honest man.
holds its head high, and therefore
Police officers, you do not have to be
enemies of your own people. The authorities turn
you into enemies of your own people, but you do not
have to become them.
And if you stand against this en masse,
then there will be nothing they can do to you,
absolutely nothing. Well, as for the network—
they brought in the Rostov OMON (special riot police), and just as
in Rostov, it should refuse, because
after that they will bring in Ossetian units to Rostov, and
that is exactly how the whole system is arranged. It needs
to be said plainly: but what for, if they are
there smashing something or breaking windows, okay, then we
will disperse them or detain
someone. But if they have simply gathered there,
for some kind of rally—well, they do have the right
to hold it, and they have every right
to hold their peaceful rally. It is obvious
that if people are being shot at that rally,
then we stand there, and we absolutely do not
have to carry out unlawful orders. That is
bound to happen sooner or later, but
I would like it to happen sooner.
Then the third thing that happened in
Ossetia was absolutely
outrageous: the local
Rospotrebnadzor (Russia’s consumer safety watchdog) — just as an example of how
a good person, a good son of his
people—what a disgrace for the Republic of Ossetia,
for all Ossetians. This regional office of
Rospotrebnadzor in North Ossetia
recorded an increase in coronavirus cases
and explained it by saying that there had been
a rally against all these measures,
against the quarantine. Amazing—so that is how you can
explain it. Well, perhaps, perhaps
someone even got infected at that rally, but
then why does Rospotrebnadzor also tell us
at the same time that dozens and hundreds
of similar gatherings that took place in
the metro—let’s watch 29 seconds of how
it looked when they were locking
people in the metro, and they stood there for several tens of
minutes waiting to be let inside. 20
seconds.
electronic
So this—when people are standing somewhere in an
enclosed space, in the view, in the
official view of Rospotrebnadzor,
did not affect the spread of
coronavirus in any way at all. But when
someone went out to protest in Ossetia
in the open air, of course that led to
terrible illness. I mean, it is simply
total, absolute hypocrisy.
Dmitry Kharitonov: Alexei, give us your
comment on the latest film about Yuri
Dud and Dolina. An excellent film, three
hours long—longer than this broadcast. I wanted
to discuss it with you in detail, maybe
in the next broadcast.
But I will not spoil it for those who have not yet
seen it. Watch it—it is a very good
film. There is some kind of critical
discussion there about why it did not show more women,
why there were so few women, but it is a very interesting and
very good film. I watched it with great
interest.
One good acquaintance of mine appears in it.
It is definitely worth discussing, so
thank you for the suggestion to discuss it in
the next program.
Bolee2367 asks whether there is any merch
from Navalny. Well, go to our store in May—
I think it is working now, yes,
and it delivers. Go there—we will put the link in
the description. A few questions about my TikTok:
but why do you need TikTok?
Alexei, please make TikToks. I
do not know why TikTok—well, I just
want, you know, not to fall behind and not
to turn into
that classic kind of person to whom
children bring phones and say, look,
and he is like, what is this, what does
this mean? But now
millions of people use it. I am not sure that
I will be recording much for TikTok,
and I am definitely not sure I will be making
musical videos where you have to do this
and that and show some kind of
responses.
But it is an important means of communication, yes.
TikTok is bigger than YouTube now in terms of
download volume, so who the hell
knows—just in case.
Subscribe; the link is in the description.
Zikot asks me: Alexei, what do
you think will happen if after the May
holidays they lift the self-isolation regime? Will
the number of infections increase?
It looks more like genocide. Well, let us
talk about Putin, who made his
fourth address in this
fourth address.
Basically, in essence, he said
that we have made major breakthroughs in
industry, and that we will extend
this self-isolation, this quarantine, until May 11.
And it very much looks as though, judging by the fact that
everyone has already started saying that we are reaching
a plateau—and a plateau means the number of cases is not growing—
the point is how actively they are
lying about it. It looks like after
the May holidays they will lift the quarantine, I
believe.
And I am not a virology specialist; I
simply listen to smart people who write
about this and who analyze both
our country’s experience and foreign experience. Foreign experience shows
that these quarantine measures are lifted
when there really is a clear plateau,
not when the number of cases is rising.
Here, we can see that, first of all, the number
of cases is growing very sharply; second,
they are clearly concealing the death toll, and they want
to lift these restrictive measures in order to
to defuse public discontent
people are stuck without money, so Putin's
overall concept, as I see it,
is basically this: to hell with it, let them
get sick if they must, and we'll just hide
these statistics
but we'll let them out of their homes and send them
to work, because otherwise they'll tear us apart
that's what they're afraid of, as far as I can tell
that's what's happening here, in this way, and now they
are now saying in the Moscow region
something like, we've reached a plateau, and quite
rightly, the doctors' union points out
yes, they say: show us. There's a tweet,
from Vasilyeva, and she quite rightly
wrote: what plateau are you talking about if in Podolsk
a children's hospital has been converted for all this
every day more and more
hospitals are being opened specifically for
coronavirus—what kind of plateau is that?
That means that according to the real statistics,
the number of cases is rising. In
Yekaterinburg, in the previous
program,
I told you—I was outraged that a hospice there
had been turned over for coronavirus, and now they've
also given over the main maternity hospital. There isn't
anywhere else to handle complicated births there.
There are 128 pregnant women there on
bed rest to preserve their pregnancies, and they're handing it over for
coronavirus. Does that look like a plateau? No,
it doesn't look like a plateau. It looks like
active growth. And just now, literally
before the broadcast,
Moscow's deputy mayor said this strange
phrase. She said: we urge all
Muscovites to stay home or go to
their dacha (country house), literally. And those who can,
if possible, go to your dacha. That's really
sending mixed signals, let's say, and
as for the fact that people will head out en masse
to their dachas,
I don't know, but I think they were simply
trying to hide all this for now. But anyway,
getting back to Putin, let's listen
to this statement of his that everything
is being extended until May 12. 46 seconds.
Putin: On April 2, I signed a decree under which
the days through April 30
inclusive were declared non-working. In
this connection, the following
decisions have now been made. First, we have a series of
major May holidays ahead of us. Between them
are working days: the 6th, 7th, and 8th.
We know that
under normal circumstances many people would not work,
but would take time off or vacation days.
And now, all the more so, we cannot take risks.
Therefore, I consider it right to declare these
three days non-working, with
pay preserved. Thus, taking into account
all the May holidays, the period of non-working
days will last through May 11 inclusive.
See what a scam that is? Like, I'm
announcing—well, you know, we've already spent a month
not working, and now I'm extending it for you
by another three days
but that actually means until May 11, so that's another
month and a half. Just say it plainly:
we are imposing quarantine until mid-May. We've
already been under quarantine for a month, and we need
to stay under it a bit longer. But if you just say
it like it is, everyone will say, good job,
he finally said it straight. But then
you'd have to give people something, you'd have to pay
and they are panic-stricken about doing that. Today
Maxim Mironov, a fairly well-known economist,
published a great article.
He explains a question many people ask:
why don't they want to give out money? Because
that would also be beneficial, and every country
is doing it—only Russia isn't, even though
it has very large reserves. Because
they are really
saving all that enormous money for the oligarchs.
They will hand it out to them, and you'll see—it
will happen very soon. The fall in
oil prices
has already led to 300 million being given recently, and they'll give more.
It's just that all these huge companies where
Putin's cronies are sitting
are carrying out massive investment projects,
and on those projects, Putin himself profits,
personally, as do his family and his
inner circle. And those investment projects have
driven the companies into huge losses
and debt, and they want to cover all of that
with our reserve funds, and
that's why they're spouting all this nonsense.
For me—probably like for you too—but what specifically
really pissed me off, honestly, was that for the fourth time
the man addresses the nation and he was late.
How late was he? Three and a
half hours. Three and a half. Which
raises the question: when the president is addressing
the nation during an epidemic, and you delay it by
three and a half hours—what more important business
could you possibly have? What is it—eating cottage cheese with honey,
swimming in the pool? What's going on?
What's more important—chatting with girls, telling them jokes?
Telling stories at some government meeting?
There cannot be anything more important for the
president of a country
than addressing the nation. Fine, if
there was something super-mega important,
and you absolutely had to swim two more
laps, or I don't know, do something like that,
okay—but how long could that take?
Be 15 minutes late, 20 minutes late,
but on every
single address he was late by more than
an hour.
And this time he was three and a half hours late—what was happening there?
It shows total contempt,
you understand? I mean, just imagine
if I were late to this broadcast by three
hours—you'd think, what is he, an idiot or something?
Is he sick? But I'm the one doing this broadcast here, and you
Watch it voluntarily, I'm running late.
A live broadcast, you say? Well, I probably won't.
watch Navalny anymore, because, well...
If I went on air and didn't explain
where I'd been — like, at the police station for three hours —
that would be understandable. But if I just said, well, so what,
what did you expect, let them wait,
whatever — 94,000 people are watching
live right away, they'll be watching.
You know, I'm just so great.
And I'm telling such great
jokes here on YouTube, and telling
the blunt truth — so it shouldn't make no difference to them.
They've got nowhere to go anyway. So I might think of it that way, or
put it like this, or show it all, and
tomorrow I'll have 4,000
watching live instead of 40,000 or 94,000, and
it's just astonishing that they do this to
the whole country — they seriously
think: whatever. More than that,
quite the opposite.
The idea is that this somehow makes us more valuable,
that people will love us more because of it,
because they'll understand how much
above everyone else we are, how much cooler we are, that we can just
show up for an address to the nation
four hours late. Why?
Fine, if he'd come out and
delivered some kind of amazing address,
like, I don't know, laid out
how we're supporting people, that we have this kind of
medical plan, we've got this, we've got that,
we've really
done everything brilliantly. But he came out and
said, basically, for three days I'm introducing... we, we
produced this many masks, and before we
were producing 60 ventilators, and now
we're producing 600, and we'll
be producing 700. What a
breakthrough, right? The epidemic started in January,
and by February-March it was already clear
to everyone. First of all, we've now
admitted that, it turns out, an entire
huge country with a population of 147
million people wasn't producing any
ventilators at all, and we've finally started
producing them. We had this clip about
the great economic breakthroughs.
Let's watch it. No, we don't have that clip.
They're telling me we don't have that clip with
the great... I mean, who among you watched it?
I mean, no — nothing was said.
Absolutely nothing. And in substance, nothing
that would justify postponing it by
four hours. I saw, I think, on
TikTok.
There was a very funny video on TikTok
that parodied this
address by Putin.
With a man not wearing pants — and it really
perfectly captures all the government's proposals,
because if you just
sit down right now and honestly ask yourself:
what exactly has the government, over these two
months — and Putin over these two months —
during all this quarantine time, what measures
has it proposed and implemented?
And if you sit and think, you'll come up with something like:
none. That we should self-isolate,
that we should do this ourselves, do that ourselves,
and that's exactly what this video shows.
Let's watch.
Hello everyone, you're watching the news on
Borodaty ("The Bearded One").
Breaking news from the government
of the Russian Federation: a plan has been developed to
combat coronavirus. Healthy people
are advised to isolate themselves; sick people,
to cure themselves; students, to educate themselves;
the unemployed, to provide for themselves; the hungry,
to feed themselves; the dead, to bury themselves. And those who are unhappy are advised to
just
shut themselves up.
That's all the news for today.
That really is exactly
what they offered us: just do everything
yourselves. Just somehow manage it all yourselves.
Figure it out yourselves — but at the same time Putin is
great, and now they really just
despite the fact that, as I already told you,
the United Nations
recognized that we're basically sitting at a
very bad place in terms of preparedness.
We have a complete failure across the board,
absolutely everywhere. I mean, I literally have
a bunch of videos in my script that
show that there is absolutely nothing,
no protective equipment at all. More than that,
right now doctors are being persecuted for
saying that they aren't being given
protective gear. Remember I showed you a woman
from the town of Kalach-on-Don, a doctor
named Tatyana Deryoma.
Her video got a huge number of views
on VKontakte and everywhere else, because
she simply came out and on video
showed that they had absolutely nothing.
What happened next? An inspection followed.
The Investigative Committee came to check
it, and as a result they issued her three
disciplinary
penalties in a row, and now the Investigative Committee is conducting an inquiry there.
Let's listen.
One second — what? We don't have the video?
Sorry, please — the problem with live broadcasting
from home: it's in the script, but in reality
it's not there. All right. So, the doctor who
spoke out — you saw it here, I showed it in my
program — she complained,
and the very next day they immediately sent
an inspection from the local committee,
which is mainly going after her,
because, well, because you can't
admit it — you have to punish someone and prove
that Putin is the greatest. And of course
the head of Bashkortostan (a republic in Russia), Khabirov, spoke in a truly remarkable way.
Khabirov of Bashkiria (Bashkortostan) — yes, that very same Khabirov
who...
in the republic, but simply one of the most
obvious outright failures—a center
of infection, and this is an absolute fool and
a thief sitting there, and he also
a useless thief, usually rolling up his sleeves, sleeves
a high-ranking official
from the Presidential Administration, he
naturally, when there were major scandals
around Ufa, Ufa fins afinskaya
the Republican Hospital, which became
a hotspot of infection, his response was to say that
he was holding the first online summit
Russia–Eurasia, naturally hiring all
the bought-off crooks; Sobchak came to this
summit
to talk with him about what a
wonderful, magnificent Vladimir Putin is
and the man comes out and publicly says
that, actually, you know, here we have
we’re so lucky, we have such a low
fatality rate
it’s thanks to the mobilization of our
institutions around a strong leader
Vladimir Putin. Let’s listen, check this
human society after the pandemic
there will still be a desire for stability
social stability, political
and economic stability, and I dare to suggest
that our country, which is fairly
well organized, has quite successfully
organized the work to prevent the spread
of the pandemic, and by many indicators is
showing very good numbers, for example
the COVID fatality rate
is capable of implementing these measures in many
ways thanks to the fact that we have a very
high degree of efficiency and
manageability, and the fact that we have all
united under the leadership of a very strong
leader, our national leader
the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin—this is
a very serious fact, in my view
that we also need to think about
if there was a Vladimir
Vladimirovich Putin factor, it consisted in the fact
that there is simply a global failure there, in
particular in Bashkiria (Bashkortostan) there is simply a failure
but in reality the hospital became a hotspot
of infection, and they began hiding all of it
they shut the hospital down, the doctors there, how should I put it,
it all started coming out, and the Investigative Committee began
opening criminal cases against those who
were talking about it; there was an appeal there
from half the hospitals in Bashkiria (Bashkortostan) saying there was no
protective equipment, nothing at all, and today these
doctors—already several dozen people there
just imagine, this is Bashkiria (Bashkortostan), where generally
everything is tightly controlled, where traditionally people
are afraid of the authorities, and people, so to speak,
don’t usually show off or push back against the authorities
where the voting level, where
the falsification is always 84 percent—the doctors
of the Republican Hospital recorded a 6-
minute appeal in which they describe
how terrible everything is
one moment, let’s watch a clip from it: Hello,
I am an employee of the Institute of Traumatology and
Orthopedics named after Vreden, and today is the 26th
of April
I am at the institute, in quarantine. Since the 6th
of April, all staff and patients
have been inside the institute
the staff have all already been sick; a large
part of the staff were sent to hospitals
some to Botkin Hospital, some to Hospital No. 40. We are taking
coronavirus tests; I personally have taken them
five times already
not a single result has come back, and I’m sitting here and
I can’t understand whether I’m infected or not
infected
the doctors aren’t examining us because there’s no one
to do it
there is no treatment at all, neither for the staff nor for
the patients, because we are an institute of
traumatology; we don’t have the medicines, we
aren’t being treated with anything—basically, holy water
staff members who already have pneumonia
are being falsely marked and sent through regular sick leave
even though they got sick at the workplace
while in quarantine. Our
management tells us nothing about anything
they say nothing. On the 9th, all of my
management was taken away, that is, the senior
department head, two excellent doctors
and an orderly were taken, and then everything went wrong
please forgive me, this video is
actually a video with mixed-up labels; I’m honestly
confused among the videos of suffering doctors; this
video is not from Ufa
from that Republican Hospital. If
you have that video, please play it for us
if not, well, you can find it for me on
social media
I apologize for the slight mess
well, it’s
of course connected with our, our complicated
situation—I’m working remotely today, but the point is
find the video and watch it, there
for a full 6 minutes doctors are speaking, doctors
from the main Republican Hospital in Ufa
are appealing to the whole world; there are appeals to
the Investigative Committee
the Prosecutor General’s Office, President
Putin, and I don’t know, UNESCO, to everyone—where
they say that everything is monstrous
there is horrific infection across the entire republic
everything is very, very bad, and the head
of the republic at the same time comes out and
feeds everyone nonsense, saying, you know,
everything is so good here, and of course that’s because
of the wonderful role of Vladimir
Vladimirovich Putin, and this is, as it were, their
number one measure now in fighting the coronavirus
virus: to lie about how wonderfully
Putin is doing everything. And measure number two—
well, that is, they kept thinking what else
they could do in order to
show that they are fighting the coronavirus
the virus, but at the same time not paying for anything
paying, and it was obvious visually, I don't
they're now introducing a mask mandate, and as
usually happens here in Russia, you know
at first they were showing and explaining everywhere
that no masks were needed
that all of this was nonsense, and now they are in
a huge number of regions, but here I was
here in the script, when I was preparing
today it mentioned Primorye (a region in Russia's Far East) and it mentioned
Tatarstan (a republic within Russia); by the start of the broadcast, already a large
number of regions, and by this evening we
by evening, the Moscow Region had already announced: everyone
must wear masks; whoever doesn't wear a mask
will be detained by the police. The question is: where
are people supposed to get masks? I mean, we're not even asking
the next question yet: why should we
pay for masks? But even if we're ready
to pay, where do we get them? There are no masks in
pharmacies, no gloves, and none of the other stuff either
there's no sanitizer. I mean, in some places you can
buy them, but most of the time you can't buy decent masks
at all
I'm helping the Doctors' Alliance collect
money, and their main problem is
yes, you donate money, and with that money
they buy protective equipment for doctors
the main problem is that the money exists
but buying proper
personal protective equipment is impossible, even
ordinary masks are unavailable, and now the regions
are introducing all this, and in Primorye (a region in Russia's Far East) they've introduced
it, and local people there are writing to our штаб (campaign office)
there are no masks; in Vladivostok, there are no masks in pharmacies
none. In the Moscow Region and in Tatarstan they've introduced
a mask mandate, and what did they do right away? Not
use Tatarstan's huge budget
to give everyone masks. Not even, like I showed you
here in the video from
the Madrid metro: there were
police officers there, and for everyone coming out they took out
and handed them a mask, and people either went
wearing masks, or put one on, or took one
because you'd need a spare mask too
you need to change it every
three hours. But what is happening
in Tatarstan? Of course, they need to send in
cops who will walk around
the store and catch those who violated the rules
and are walking around without masks. Let's watch
the video for a minute, I hope it's there
our
hours not for recovery, you didn't come in
to break apart
with yourself
why not insert it with lubricant now
you'll have to come with us
[music]
young man
well, here we are again, a month later, and we've
already seen what seemed like idiocy
that couldn't be topped, when people with
dogs out for a walk were being detained. And here
they've introduced a mask mandate, and a cop deliberately
goes into a store
to hunt for someone, even gets in his face
and says something like, "Hey man, you're without a
mask." He says, "Yeah, I'm without a mask," and then
"if you're without a mask, you'll infect
someone" — "Will I infect someone?" — "No, you need to
come with us to the station." For what? So that at the station you can
give him a mask? I'm practically
falling apart here, I'm getting tongue-tied — what is
this for? It's idiocy. A whole bunch of cops, and
one of them is actually running after him, you understand?
The guy is taking off — just give him a mask! You're a wealthy
Tatarstan; if these masks exist, buy them
from the pharmacies and hand them out to people. When I
when all this was just beginning — and
remember, I put out a video about how Moscow
bought masks for 400 million rubles (about US$4.3 million)
I made a video about how they bought them
at an enormous price, inflated several
times over, but still, they bought
millions of masks. Where are those millions of masks?
Why aren't they being handed out for free somewhere?
No, no — you can't buy them for money either, but still
it's the same thing, well, if
if they assume that people now in all
regions are supposed to walk the streets in
masks, under a mask mandate, then that means everything
should be overflowing with the cheapest,
simplest masks — but they don't have them
So now what, we're supposed to make them out of paper
and attach elastic bands?
Meanwhile, a police officer is running around already catching someone, but
this is simply outrageous — it's abuse
of citizens. And then there's this whole
discussion about whether it's necessary to introduce
a state of emergency
Navalny is calling for giving everyone
money and declaring a state of emergency
but they say that's not necessary, because that would mean
there would be police all over the streets — and
what the hell is this now, then? Seriously, here we have
no quarantine, no state of emergency
nothing at all, really
no actual legal framework for any of this
and yet, in reality, cops are running after
people in the street because they aren't wearing masks
and under what law, exactly? I mean
at this point I'm not even discussing
that it contradicts common sense
the detention of these people. The president
of the Republic of Tatarstan
to whom we'll bring at least a clip
of this video — why are you engaging in this idiotic
nonsense? You have the money; this is
not that much money to give everyone, regardless
of the size of the republic's population
Tatarstan, you can afford
to buy these masks and give them to people. If you
can't buy them and hand them out, then say so — say that
we can't buy them because there aren't
enough of them. Then where are people supposed to get them?
If there aren't enough masks, where are they supposed to get them?
If they introduce a mask mandate in Moscow now
there will be a huge number of people, at least in masks, well
Look, in Moscow you’ve got this strict regime in place — where are the masks?
Where are people in the Moscow region supposed to get these masks?
There are 5 million people living there, that’s all.
Summer cottage residents (dacha owners) are asking: where are we supposed to get these masks? There aren’t any.
There are no masks, but they introduced the mask regime and the cops went out.
They started finding people and fining them, that’s what’s happening.
I’ve been saying since the very start of the broadcast: there is no—
there’s no strategy at all, I mean none.
No kind of plan whatsoever, just some kind of—
[ __ ] someone was sitting there saying, let’s do something like this—
something that makes everyone think we’re fighting it.
A mask mandate has been introduced, and then everything will look—
visually right: people walking around in masks, comments saying—
they’ll go around checking: oh, you don’t have a pass?
They don’t just check a little — they check everything.
And that means they think even more needs to be checked.
Your mask — and now come with us to the police station.
This is just the absolute limit, instead of—
instead of grabbing a person without a mask and dragging them to—
the station, driving with them in a police car, taking them into—
the station, when right now a huge number of—
by the way, police officers have been infected, even—
my favorite 2nd Operational Regiment — the very same one
whose officers are always, for example, detaining me.
They keep hauling people in; they’ve got a lot of infections there in the lockup.
There’s a large number of infections there. I saw—
media headlines coming out saying that there were—
dozens of people there, maybe hundreds of people in—
that 2nd regiment. Well, of course — they’re all there in—
the barracks.
In those close quarters, obviously, they—
infected each other, and now everyone’s sick too.
And of course, the thing to do is grab some guy off the street and—
take him to the police station too.
Write up a report saying he isn’t wearing—
a mask. And this is actually happening.
And it’s happening because we, damn it—
even though the whole country is furious— but I—
even judging by these broadcasts of mine, for however long now—
we’ve been on air for almost two hours, and 97,000 people are watching.
I’ve never seen viewership like this for us—
on the channel right now, I mean never.
It’s exploding everywhere, everyone is watching—
trying to find at least some information.
Everyone is outraged, everyone is sitting online.
Everything is boiling over there — well, then it needs to boil over—
against the government. People need to write to it,
to this president of Tatarstan (head of the Republic of Tatarstan), saying:
“Man, damn it, give us masks for free or—”
or else—
otherwise United Russia gets zero votes, zero.
Sure, you’ll falsify the results, obviously, and so on.
But if normally you falsify from—
a real support level of 30 percent—
and then add another 30 percent for United Russia—
another 30 percent — now you’ll be adding from—
from zero, because not a single—
vote until you buy us masks. That’s how it should be demanded.
That’s what people need to demand. They just need to write about it—
write about it everywhere, just say it—
be outraged, persuade your grandmother, and this—
won’t pass completely without a trace, because—
I assure you, the authorities are very, very—
sensitive.
They feel public opinion. Now we’ll move on—
after almost two hours on air — to the—
women’s marathon. It turned out kind of funny for us—
that by the end of the program—
I specifically waited until more—
viewers had gathered online, because I’ve got—
Sobchak, Putin’s “daughter,” Todorenko, Maria—
Zakharova — really interesting topics.
Topics I really want to discuss, actually.
Even Todorenko — it may seem like—
not all that political—
not political events, not the kind of events—
that I usually—
discuss on the program, but they’re very important.
And all of this, basically, happened because—
all these wonderful women—
said some things on the internet.
And it’s very much worth discussing, because—
it reflects the whole country. And we should start—
of course, we should begin with—
Ksenia Sobchak.
who has now become our queen of—
crabs, and that was a very strange piece of news.
Because at first I didn’t pay any attention to it at all.
I mean, some kind of thing where—
pro-Kremlin Telegram channels started—
going after Sobchak because she got mixed up in—
this crab scam. Meaning that—
Sobchak is supposedly this kind of—
schemer and con artist. Well, obviously—
obviously she got involved in something—
someone didn’t share with someone, so now they’re smearing her.
But I decided to take a closer look at the situation.
More closely, because when she appeared—
on the air at Echo of Moscow (independent Russian radio station), she actually—
formulated it really well.
She essentially expressed the opinion and attitude of the entire—
ruling elite, of which she considers herself an important part,
with regard to all of—
our initiative and choice, saying that—
you shouldn’t just hand 20,000 rubles (about US$220) to everyone.
You need to help people selectively, but not—
not just help people across the board; you need to help—
the strong. Because if you simply give everyone—
20,000 or 30,000 rubles (about US$220–330), they’ll just spend it, and that’s it.
It’s pointless. Here’s what she said, more or less:
“It’s easy to say: let’s hand out money to everyone—
20,000 each, or let’s make it 100,000—
let’s just hand it all out. For him, that’s just a way—
you understand, to needle the authorities.
It sounds nice. But it’s not his money, not his—
reserve fund. They won’t be coming to him in—
two years, hungry, saying: ‘So what happened?’
‘Why is our country bankrupt?’”
That’s the basic attitude right there.
“It’s not his money.” But it’s not theirs either, not mine,
not yours — as if it belongs to no one,
and it’s just supposed to sit there because that’s the guarantee.
And if we hand it out to people—
they’ll spend it all on Rotenberg (a wealthy businessman close to the Kremlin) or on—
some other people we’re about to—
talk about, then everything will heat up. We need—
to help the strong. Because if we give it to ordinary people—
we’ll go broke. But if we give it to certain—
to enterprises, state-owned companies, oligarchs, and so on
and about the economy in general, I thought, what a
brazen and cynical statement. I turned my attention
to that whole, so to speak, crab affair
and
and the point there is—I’m not going to spend too long
getting into it—but the crab business in general
is a very criminalized business
because it’s a raw commodity; in fact, it
is essentially no different from oil or
something like that. I mean, crab is just
also a resource. Oil gradually
formed underground, and now some
people say they want to pump it out
and the state says, well, pay us and
go ahead and pump it
and otherwise it’s all ours. Same with crab: the shellfish
was living somewhere under a rock, minding its own business
and this crab, its crab family,
grew and grew and grew, and then
some guys said, okay, we’re going to
catch these crabs and sell them to Japan
but those crabs belong to no one—well, in a way they belong
to themselves, but they’re also ours, because it’s a raw commodity, and we
and the state sells quotas, and some
guys buy those quotas, and they’re very expensive because
everyone is ready to catch these crabs—the Japanese
and our people alike
I mean, it’s a commodity: they catch them and
sell them. So some guys got
a license to catch this crab, then they
fell out with some other guys and
as I understand it, those others also had connections to the authorities, and one side
had the other side jailed. I’m not going to get into
who was right and who was guilty there—they got jailed
their license was suspended, people were arrested, and
the ones who got hurt, well, they
as usual, this gets resolved by slipping money
as bribes to the cops, you pay off these people, you
pay off those people, and then your police, prosecutors, and
investigators start fighting against their
police and prosecutorial machinery, and then
eventually one side beats the other
catches the crab and sells it, while the one who
made the wrong move ends up in jail. So they decided to try
some more exotic option
alongside just paying off the usual people
apparently that didn’t work, so they came to
Sobchak and said, Ksenia Sobchak, come into our
business and sort out our little problems for us, and we’ll
give you a share. And they apparently did, so in this bloody
business they brought her in, and the whole country
learned with surprise that, it turns out, Sobchak
is now our queen of the crab business
There was a segment—I watched a small piece of it
just a little bit, while I was trying to make sense of
this situation—of a broadcast with Vladimir
Solovyov, because Vladimir
Solovyov
was among those brought in for this kind of
PR management of the situation, because
well, everyone connected with that crab business
and Sobchak started getting attacked by pro-Kremlin
Telegram channels, and everyone was asking questions
she clearly understands nothing about it
it’s obviously zero expertise—clearly, the person
was given a stake because she would smooth over
certain issues, because, well, that means she’s
close to the right people. And it turned out, very
comically, that she really did start trying to resolve those issues
because her mother, who sits in the
Federation Council (the upper house of Russia’s parliament) and gets paid by us
a salary—she used to represent
a republic there; now I don’t know, I think
I think it’s still the Republic of Tuva
though I may be mistaken—but she sits in the
Federation Council, and like the whole Federation Council
does nothing except write parliamentary
inquiries. So she started writing very
funny, idiotic inquiries. We even have
a photo proving it: Sobchak’s mother
writes an inquiry to a court, to a judge
saying, “I have been approached
by a constituent, Ksenia
Anatolyevna Sobchak, and Ksenia Anatolyevna
Sobchak reports that someone there has been wronged in the
crab business, so could you please
issue a fair judicial decision
so that, so that, well, my
dear daughter can get lots and lots of money.” The actual
meaning of that inquiry was exactly
that. And then something even funnier
came out:
Vedomosti wrote about it—that’s a media outlet
I’m not especially fond of these days
but this was genuinely a good scoop
they were the only ones who dug it up: she wrote a request
to the government, to the agriculture minister
Patrushev—the son of Patrushev (Nikolai Patrushev, former head of the FSB, Russia’s security service)
—saying that
“please include this
crab enterprise, where my daughter is a shareholder,
in the list”—yes, she wrote a request to put it
on the list of specially designated systemically important
enterprises. Right now the government
is drawing up these lists in order to help very
important enterprises. This enterprise
of course is not that important, but it
was included
well, because that’s how it works. And here
the important point—the most important thing—is that all of this
works like this. For example,
today the government published certain
support measures under which you
will be allocated exactly 0 rubles and 0 kopecks
but an enterprise on these lists of systemically important
supported companies, in particular,
has the right to receive subsidized loans
at 5 percent annual interest. You will never get a loan from
the state or from a bank at 5 percent
annual interest—never. Even
Putin recently announced that subsidized
mortgage loans that citizens
can apply for are at 6
percent annual interest, whereas here enterprises
are being given 5 percent annual interest. You
understand that the difference between the market
rate and this subsidized rate is
You’re the ones paying for it, exactly right.
These are funds from the reserve fund itself,
and that money goes there so that various
businesses—including, right now, this
crab business linked to Sobchak (a reference to Ksenia Sobchak, a Russian public figure)—receive money, and
this, specifically, in the most direct sense,
is corruption. She got a stake in the company—
Masha, does it knock a year off on
loans? This is real money. So you
can go and take out a loan—say you need 100
million rubles (about 1 million USD), you borrow it at 10
percent annual interest.
But if they put you on the list, you borrow at
5 percent annual interest—real, actual
cash. And so, you see what the situation is?
It’s simply truly disgusting
that a person is simultaneously engaged in
making sure that you,
me, and everyone else pay into this reserve fund,
put money into it, and then his crab business gets it,
while he goes out and says that ordinary people
mustn’t be given money—better not give it to them, because they’ll just
spend it all away. It’s pointless. That’s
‘populism.’ But grabbing a chunk for yourself—
for some vague, incomprehensible business—
asking for some amount of money and declaring, ‘Give
us our usual slice,’ writing to
the government, and then getting that fat slice—
that’s considered normal. So right now,
during a crisis, during an epidemic,
it is supposedly vitally important for the state
to make sure that Ksyusha Sobchak (Ksenia Sobchak)
earns however many extra
millions of dollars. That’s apparently very important.
That’s what the economy is supposedly built on. This is also
called ‘helping the strong,’ in their
terminology. But giving money to everyone
else—that’s ‘populism.’
That just offends me to the very depths,
to the depths of my soul, because that’s
exactly how the whole system is set up. And this reserve
fund is exactly where the money will go. It will be
spent on people like the Rotenbergs,
Timchenko, Sobchak—on this whole gang, really,
these St. Petersburg thieves who came out
of the mayor’s office, from one office—from
three offices, really—and then gradually
built themselves up and took everything for themselves. That’s why
they aren’t giving out money now, because they’ve
already mentally divided up those 17 or 18
trillion rubles. Just imagine it:
it’s like a pile made of bricks, and each brick
has already been claimed by someone—this one for crabs,
that one for something else—and
they’ll drag it all away, and that pile
will be gone, or what’s left of it will be very, very small.
And in any case, it will run out within
a fairly short period of time.
But as long as we stay silent, we won’t get
a single kopek out of it—they’ll take everything.
So sign up, guys. So, well,
if you don’t want to sign, then at least don’t
stay silent. Tell everyone about this situation: that
right now, they will help them, but they will not help you
at all. More than that, they’ll even say,
‘It’s populism to give people money—they’ll just spend it all.’
That phrase—‘they’ll just spend it’—really
infuriates me.
And what are you supposed to do with it? You’re supposed
to save it? Put it in a passbook,
stick it in a cupboard so it sits there until the right
times? This reserve fund exists
so that we can spend it when needed.
After all, this is money people saved up.
They saved it, and now when you don’t have money,
you take out your rainy-day stash and use it up—that’s how it works,
in an ordinary family. That’s how it works
in business, and that’s how states work too.
That’s how it works, you understand? But they’ll come to you and
say something like, ‘What are you, idiots? Have you gone mad?
Are you completely crazy? Of course you can’t
just spend it. Of course we need to support
the right people—the crab business, of course, needs support.
The oil sector needs support; Sechin (Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft) needs to be given money,
because his young wife has
a yacht about this big—really, it has to be
that big.
And then maintaining all of that—it's all
very expensive. The money has to go there, and they
will take it all as long as we stay silent. Yes, I
understand that just signing a
petition may seem pointless, but damn,
many of you haven’t even done that.
Do it. Spread the word. Push this forward.
So, as for that—let’s go
in order. We’ve discussed the first woman on our
list.
I’ll take a couple of questions, then move on to the next
woman. And in 1986—well, Alexei, did you find out
who produces these masks? And was there a decree
specifying the manufacturers? But the masks
covered in the investigation—we
showed the manufacturer and the distributor there.
They were completely different kinds of masks.
And this is completely public information.
We compared the price—
the wholesale price publicly listed on the website—
with the price at which the Moscow city government
was buying them, and we saw that the Moscow government
was purchasing them at four times the price. But right now, we
don’t even need especially sophisticated
masks. It’s clear that if we want to put masks on
tens of millions of people—and
that will have to be done, because in the most
populous regions, the Moscow region,
Tatarstan, Primorye,
that’s already millions of people—many millions
of people.
Those masks have to come from somewhere.
So they have to be some kind of, well,
relatively inexpensive masks, because
you can’t put some super-complex
surgical masks on everyone. The point
isn’t really who exactly makes them,
the point is also who is going to
pay for them now. The main question is where to get them.
They can be obtained somewhere—here, Sporyvy writes, sport-
positions in Ryazan as well… prenatal…
They’re shutting down huge centers because of the coronavirus.
What, are women supposed to give birth out in the fields or something?
That’s the question. I mean, maybe sometimes you can,
use some kind of
additional space, but first of all, that
always looks pretty strange.
Closing maternity wards, and secondly,
most importantly, it clearly shows that there is
absolutely no plan whatsoever, not even close, and
there’s no decline at all, not even close. Everything they
say about a decline
is an absolute lie. And so,
Alexei asks: what do you think about
Mizulina’s residence permit?
Her reaction to the leaked information—I saw
some posts on social media saying that Mizulina
was involved in some scandal and had filed a lawsuit over it,
but I don’t know anything about her residence
permit. I’ll read up on it a bit more
before I tell you anything. Ruslan,
Fokin asks: is the second part of Ferro Pro
coming to an end? There hasn’t been a word about it yet.
As for today’s stream, it’s not going to be
four hours long, but who the hell knows.
I don’t want it to be four hours long, I mean,
two and a half at most, probably, but
don’t run off, don’t leave me here alone.
I’ll try now.
I just can’t ignore all these wonderful
women and not mention Putin’s daughter. Well,
what’s happening right now is just wonderful.
The BBC Russian Service
has put out such a great
investigation—a report about how
soon, very soon, we’ll apparently be fixing
our bad genetics. So all this stuff you’re doing—
showing off, watching this kind of thing—look,
watching streams like this means that in
your genes, something is wrong, and soon all of that
will be corrected. Maria Vorontsova, Putin’s elder
daughter, and the BBC wrote that
there will be a special
grand-scale genetics research project.
It will be carried out by Rosneft,
and Rosneft will
finance it, allocating up to $1 billion
for this research, spending it on
this whole venture.
It will be some kind of autonomous non-profit organization, and
well, it doesn’t say outright that all
this billion will be controlled by Putin’s daughter,
but it strongly hints at it, indicating
that she will, or may, join the board, and well,
indeed,
that’s more or less what it looks like: that all of this
is being done for Putin’s daughter. Because really,
what does Rosneft have to do with it?
Where do genetics research and Rosneft even intersect?
Why on earth should Rosneft
be doing any kind of genetic
research? But this all, of course,
reminds me of that association
with acrobatic rock-and-roll, because
Putin’s younger daughter, Katerina Tikhonova, likes
acrobatic rock-and-roll, and suddenly all
the state companies—Rosneft and the rest—
fell in love with it too and started
pouring money into it, and somehow palaces started appearing for them.
It suddenly became the richest sport of all.
The same thing will happen here. Tomorrow,
if Putin’s daughter decides she loves, I don’t know, embroidery
or
wood burning, Rosneft will allocate
a billion dollars so they can make
the very best little plaques and pyrography tools,
and so all of it can be studied, and there’ll be a huge
museum of various pictures and everything
else, because that’s how our country works.
Someone gets interested in something and immediately it’s like:
“Masha, how are you? Feeling down? Want to
take up genetics, maybe? Sure, let’s do it.”
“Igor Ivanovich, let’s allocate a billion.”
“Please, the girl has a hobby.”
She got interested in genetics, and there’s
something absolutely amazing here. First of all,
Rosneft has already said that it
will sue over claims that Putin’s daughter
has anything to do with this. This was stated by
their wonderful press secretary
Mikhail Leontyev of Rosneft, and there
they have these absolutely fantastic
official comments. Please show them
if you have them. “In the course of the
research, it is planned to determine
whether there are genetic defects typical of the Russian
ethnic group that
can be identified and subsequently
edited.” That’s the maximum program. The project’s working title is
“The Genome of Russians.”
So it’s clear, this genetic
defect in Russians is exactly the kind of thing
people like you have—oh, excuse me, apart from the virus—
people like you, the ones who watch streams like this.
That’s the genetic defect. And then
it goes on to say that as part of the research,
they plan to collect for study
genetic material from 100,000 Russians.
It will mostly be taken from Rosneft employees
as part of routine
medical checkups. I mean, how does that
sound? It certainly sounds like complete
nonsense—utter absurdity. Rosneft, a company
with very, very serious financial
problems,
is going to work on the genome of Russians,
edit their genomes,
and treat their genetic defects. I mean,
the girl is entertaining herself, and this [__]
entertainment explains it perfectly. So look,
the reserve fund—how much is it, 103.6 billion?
Well, a billion has to be handed over
to Rosneft so it can
finance little Masha. She’s such a
smart girl, such a good girl, she needs
to work on genetic defects. Another
billion for the girl—she also likes
acrobatic rock-and-roll,
and we should probably set aside another 5 billion too.
because at Moscow State University (MSU) they were doing some kind of things there
like, I’m smart, and what do we have there at Yandex?
working on little projects there with professors
a billion, Ksyushka came in all scatterbrained
like, well, it seems a neighbor had been living there for a long time
and we know her well, so come on, let’s go over all of it
and we’ll throw money at the crabs there too, and so
so little by little it keeps melting away, while we
stay silent, but if we stay silent there, then the window can
come out four hours late for
an address to the nation, so, vivid, but if
if they stay silent, I’ll decorate a billion cars, take it
also study genetic defects, that’s exactly
that’s exactly how it works, and that’s what we need
to talk about
just tell everyone around you as well
the BBC Russian Service published there
some little note, and nobody knows, you
tell them
that everyone is sitting there with no money, while the daughters
of Putin are being given money to fix genetic defects
through rising oil prices
a billion dollars — that’s an important thing
that everyone should know about, so come on
we finally got there, done — wonderful Elena
Malysheva — there were a lot of questions about why
why exactly Malysheva
but why not any of our other
investigations? Because, well, we have
some groundwork, we keep an eye on all
these propagandists, and Elena Malysheva was one of them
we understood that something was off with her
that she was just, right now,
the agenda is all about coronavirus, and Elena
Malysheva really is also a person
who consistently, just constantly,
kept insisting that corona-
virus was complete nonsense
that coronavirus wasn’t anything serious, just something minor
basically some kind of trivial technical illness
there was a lot of it, just complete nonsense
like when she said, well, basically,
there’s nothing scary about it, it’s no worse than the flu
and that’s why we decided to look into her seriously
when we started digging, we discovered
that, well, I mean, who could have guessed
that this funny old lady
we know she annoys a huge
number of doctors, because basically
what she does is sit there
on federal television
and federal TV simply brainwashes
older people on politics and
including medicine, and this
made Malysheva, for a huge
number of people — basically decent people
but people who don’t read, and that’s true
who don’t read literature, don’t have
the opportunity, and rarely get to talk with
real doctors — she became this kind of
main source of information about medicine
and in that sense, the degree of influence
and persuasion over millions of people is very
high. What Malysheva did
as a person, you are potentially someone
who can do great good or
great harm, and Malysheva went in the direction of
great harm, because she
the party and the government said
to downplay the threat, and she dutifully downplayed
the threat, and because of this the party and government
created a situation in which
fantastic amounts of money could be made
fantastic money. A lot of people watch our
investigations — really a lot — and I’m genuinely
very pleased. Let’s take a minute and a half
from there as a reminder — let’s watch
what real luxury looks like
a huge house with columns, a well-kept
plot with neatly trimmed
lawns and trees, but the most interesting part
is of course inside: you walk in and — wow — gold
gold, gold everywhere, a huge chandelier
carved panels, marble, stucco
and from above, look how luxurious it all
looks. The most interesting thing is where
this glittering golden
mansion is located. Where could such beauty be?
Usually at moments like this I say:
we are in the most elite part of
Rublyovka (an ultra-wealthy area outside Moscow), but right now it’s really not very
clear where we are. Here we fly off in this direction
to get our bearings — a river, probably this is
the Volga
but no, guys, this isn’t the Volga, because on the
other bank we find Manhattan
she bought it in 2016 for 6
and a half million dollars — 430
million rubles at the exchange rate at the time
take a look at this video from his
Instagram, and here he talks about what
Bernie Sanders is actually suffering from. Behind
Yuri, it’s hard to miss the New York
skyline. This video was filmed in this very building
on Park Avenue, specifically
Yuri is standing in this apartment right here. You can
compare the view yourselves. This apartment was
bought by the Malyshevs in October 2014
for $2 million. In the same building they have
another apartment exactly like it
but on a different floor, bought on the same
day as the first one and registered identically. So, two
apartments in central New York, 110
square meters each, with a total value of 4
million 200 thousand dollars
when I first saw those golden
interiors, I honestly thought it was
a mistake — that just couldn’t be real
first of all, you’d really have to be
not entirely mentally healthy
second, it just doesn’t really fit her image
and I think that’s important, which is why our
investigation got such an active response
she has this image of a rather Spartan grandmother
who
works with other grandmothers, tells them things
and does her strange dancing
human-organs-in-the-studio routines, but overall
You know, her life was supposedly like this: hunger and...
cold. I mean, obviously they do have money.
She works for Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel).
And, importantly, she repeatedly
emphasized that her main source
of income was Channel One, so we expected her life to be
well, something like
comfortable,
but probably with a tilt toward a kind of ostentatious
Spartanism. But there, it was ostentation of the exact opposite kind.
Just the opposite. And all of this comes against the backdrop
of her saying that Moscow is the best city on earth,
that Sergei Semyonovich (Sergei Sobyanin, Moscow’s mayor) is the best person in the
world. She constantly talks
about how things abroad aren’t really
that great. In our investigation, there’s a clip where she says:
there’s this excerpt.
“My son works as a doctor in a New York hospital.”
“Yes, the expenses are enormous, and what he actually takes home
is 40,000 to 60,000 rubles (about $430–$650).” I mean,
anyone who knows anything starts laughing out loud
at the suggestion that a doctor in
New York would end up with
46,000 rubles (about $500) left after all expenses.
But she had been working on this audience’s minds
for the benefit of the entire Channel One machine
for many years. She had simply been
stringing them along—just
deceiving them—and investing all of that there,
investing it in things like golden tables.
And it really just looks like
absolute
hell. And this is very important, because we
know what she’s going to say and do now.
For a while, she’ll get scared, she’s turned off
comments on Instagram, and now she’ll start
saying, “You know, I have
a big business, I have lots of companies,”
“dozens of companies are registered under my name,” and
that this is even referred to in newspapers as
“Elena Malysheva’s business empire.” I want
people to understand very clearly that these are not
the same thing. She
really does have
a lot of different companies, but having many companies does not
mean there are large profits from those
companies.
First of all, she repeatedly said that
her main source of income was money from
Channel One. Let’s take a look, let’s
remember—there was even a clip compilation of this.
You also have a medical center.
And your website, Zdorovie Info. And then at home...
well, essentially they do
franchises of your
diet and nutrition internet
business, medical centers, and also
a PR agency—so this is all your
business. Which of them brings you the most
income? The medical center
doesn’t bring in any income at all—zero.
The diet business—well, right now, at the moment, quite a lot.
But for a long time, of course, basically
the main income—not even income, really, but
on television, after all, I receive
a salary as a host, and so on. Of course,
that’s the main thing.
And what she said there is very important.
Elena Malysheva lies a great, great deal, but
here she wasn’t too far from the truth, because
we looked at the documents for all these
companies—you can look them up too,
it’s public information. There are, basically,
effectively two sources
of income: her medical centers—they
showed some income—and all these
diet businesses, which in principle show
a more or less decent income. But there’s
nothing even close there to paying for
all this real estate in New York.
I mean, if someone spent $11 million
on real estate in New York alone,
that person is dealing with
huge amounts of money and sources
of income. They are not getting any
substantial income from this. And honestly, right now
we’re simply being flooded with letters
from various pharmaceutical companies, from
marketers, who write: “What, didn’t you know?”
“Didn’t you know?”
“She just takes money for
advertising various
medications, which in fact
is directly prohibited, and that most of that money
doesn’t go to Channel One
but straight into her own pocket. More than that,
there’s even a fairly well-known
episode where she advertises one of
the medications, and in this interview with Shikhman
—the one I showed you a quote from—
they talk about it. Let’s watch.
Who started this advertisement for Essentiale?
A minute and six seconds of advertising consists of the fact that it
includes phone numbers, addresses, and even names
the brand name, even though you’re not supposed to show any
medication at all. I have a question for you:
did that company pay for this?
“Of course it paid. Well, you know...”
Or maybe it was just that, as far as I know,
Elena Malysheva strongly
said, “This is how it should be done.”
That’s what they always say. And when you personally
say that this drug treats people,
even though you yourself say that you only
requested studies from them, and your
colleague never once said that the drug
cures anything—she only listed all its
properties. What else is there for the liver? I
have to show this drug. It is one of
the best-selling medications in Russia.
Essentiale Forte N. It has one effect:
it stabilizes membranes.
It stabilizes the membranes of those very
damaged liver cells, and thanks
to that, there is no tragic
destruction and development of cirrhosis.
Well, you just saw it: formally,
it may not count as advertising, because in
An advertisement is supposed to say: buy it.
Please, this medicine—contact us at
the phone number 3 2 2 2 2 2.
And this is advertising, but what you saw in the process
was direct advertising for this medicine,
shown in close-up, and Shifman, who worked
there, apparently, says you can't do that, and
who took money for it? People write to us about this,
all kinds of things. By the way, while I have the chance,
I'd like to call on everyone—marketers,
pharmaceutical marketers—to get in touch with
us and tell us where and how
you are paying for this abuse.
And the money for what Elena Malysheva
squeezed out of these unfortunate pensioners
by using Channel One—why is this happening here?
This is yet another case of corruption. Channel One is hugely
loss-making, and you paid for
every second of this show. They can
say it has high ratings and
so on, but Channel One is operating at a loss; she
is paid a fee, and so is the production team of this
show.
It's a loss-making channel, and those losses are covered
by you, and she uses a state-run
channel in order to effectively run
what in Russian media is called *dzhinsa* (paid-for covert PR), hidden sponsored
advertising, and then she drags that money
where? To America. She takes it to America, and
even, frankly speaking, her businesses
connected with selling diets are also, in
essence, a byproduct of
Channel One, because this whole
business is built like this: she
goes on Channel One live on air
and says, subscribe to my Instagram,
and on that Instagram, well, we'll
be discussing diets with you there. Let's
watch this clip.
Everyone who wants to join these groups, go to my
Instagram, malysheva.life, write to me,
leave your contact details, and we will get in touch with
all of you. But in the meantime, stay at home.
Stay home.
Look, when you write to me on Instagram
that you're eating everything as instructed, well, at least for some
point we'll need to meet sometime
so you can be properly examined.
Well, you see, dear women who are watching,
come to my Instagram.
Women came to Instagram because
Channel One sent them there. And what do they see
on Instagram? She is already selling
this diet directly. Let's watch. And
now let's move on to the project "Lose the Excess"
"Win a Million" for our viewers.
I want to say that on the website of the program
*Health*, we have published menus for those
who want to lose weight. If you're ready to
cook for yourselves, then cook—we'll only be glad.
That's not quite the right video. We have a video
where, directly on Instagram,
she urges people to buy all these various things of hers.
I mean direct advertising on Instagram.
Well, no—but in any case, you can
trace it all quite easily. This whole
scheme is easy to follow. It's basically
simple: Channel One, which you paid for, invites
everyone to Instagram, and on Instagram she starts
selling these diets of hers. Without Channel One,
none of this works. In other words,
in that sense, Channel One has turned into
a huge corruption feeding trough,
where she is parasitizing. We don't know with whom
she shares it, or exactly what she does,
but what is absolutely certain is that all of this is arranged
in such a way that the enormous trust
built up over 22 years
of dumbing down mainly middle-aged
and elderly women is converted into
actual money for her. That money she
takes abroad, and then she comes back here
and talks about how wonderful and beautiful
our country is. But sometimes it gets funny.
There was an episode—Malysheva is from Kemerovo (a city in Siberia),
and she was speaking somewhere in Kemerovo, and she was
asked, "Would you like to return to your native
Kemerovo?" And somehow, apparently,
she answered honestly: "Have I lost my mind?"
Let's watch this short clip.
And now,
to live in Kemerovo in the future—I would have to be
crazy to do that.
Well of course I'm not going there today.
Today I have two programs in Moscow.
You'd have to be crazy—what, is there not enough
to do in Moscow? No, of course not.
This is really quite something—it's genuinely
a textbook phrase, an exemplary expression of her attitude
to all of this. I mean, she has a program in
Moscow, her mother is in Moscow, but in reality
what really infuriates those people back home
is that she has already stepped across the ocean, and all
her future, everything ahead of her, is tied to
America. And basically it's a simple business model:
sit in Moscow, being favored
by the authorities. And by the way, in Moscow she has
an apartment of 250 square meters (about 2,690 sq ft),
a two-story one. So in Moscow she is doing
very well too. We decided not to drag her husband into our
investigation because
there was already so much material in Moscow about
how, under the protection of the authorities, you flatter the authorities,
and that's why you stay on Channel One, and through
Channel One you peddle some nonsense to those Kemerovo residents
of yours, and they pay you
money. It bypasses taxes,
goes into your pocket, and then you take it all to
America and buy, there in Manhattan,
you understand, in Manhattan, a 110-square-meter
apartment (about 1,184 sq ft) for your children, one
of whom is a doctor with an American
education, another some kind of media/startup person,
and the whole family is in
America. Everything is very good, everything is very
nice. But every so often you need to
go on air and say whatever is required about viruses and so on.
Here are those six seconds—let's watch them once again.
She comes out and says, in my view, for the weak-minded,
listen, I'll just say this, sorry, if this is
some American plot, then don't embarrass yourselves
because the virus is weak.
And she's speaking on behalf of such a smart,
cool Zadornov, a Russian patriot (Mikhail Zadornov, a satirist),
saying, well yes, of course, they say
the Americans made this virus, but the virus
can't handle our Russian, Kemerovo,
Siberian health with this virus,
you won't beat it with this virus, ha-ha-ha. Americans, you've made fools of yourselves,
says Elena Malysheva.
She leaves the studio, gets on a plane
in business class, and flies home to
America, where she has
a golden jacuzzi, a golden table with a golden
ceiling, I don't know, a golden bathtub, a golden
toothbrush, everything's golden, a little golden dog,
an elephant made out of shrubbery, and lovely children,
very smart, very nice, one of them is a doctor.
Two sons, I think—anyway, they help their mom
and appear in
a video called "The Song of Testicles." Because of
that video, by the way, our, our, our
this clip here, which has now been watched by
more than 4 million people, has monetization turned on,
which means it's pretty funny that, uh,
Channel One (Russia's main state TV channel), apparently at least in part,
and Elena Malysheva, it turns out, are even
making money from the fact that you're watching
this clip, because it shows ads on it.
It would be even more ironic if
those ads were ads for
diet pills or Elena Malysheva's diet
food products. It's getting a lot of views.
That shows there's
real potential, a real point, in
sending this to your mom and
your grandma—that is, to this target
audience—because people will be
shocked. They thought she was
one of us, a good person, telling us things, she
shows dancing organs, she makes
us better and healthier, but all of this is just
nothing but massive hypocrisy, lies, and
deceit.
You can't imagine how many
doctors wrote to me.
And in general, the feeling now is: finally,
you talked about this, because
it's impossible to listen to this nonsense, which
really does cause enormous
harm. She does paid propaganda, and everyone knows it.
She engages in political
prostitution on top of everything else, but all of it is wrapped in
this image of a sweet, smiling woman, with this
hairdo, and we see her and think, yes, she's this
nice, kind doctor of ours. She's nothing of the sort—
not nice, not kind, but disgusting, malicious,
and very greedy. Today I saw a great 15-second video on Twitter.
A great 15-second video where this
girl sat her grandma and grandpa down
and
showed them this video. So let's
watch it—15 seconds. That's what everyone should do.
Everyone.
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There'll be an interesting link. So let's take
another look at it.
See? People watch it without taking their eyes off it
because it's, well, because it's all
very clear, and very quickly
it makes a lot of different things clear,
including the absolute hypocrisy of these
propagandists, who are all there
Here's an interesting thing: Solovyov is in
Italy,
Brilev is in the UK,
and they lie as much as possible about wonderful
Mother Russia, while in reality they're trying
to get as far away from that Russia as
they possibly can, taking with them,
of course, a large amount of money.
So please help us
spread these investigations.
Regina Todorenko—an astonishing and very
instructive scandal erupted around her, and it
really, in a certain part of
society, on social media—on Instagram, at least—
completely overshadowed
the coronavirus. It was the only news.
There were lots of jokes that the Americans had released
the UFO videos—you've probably seen them—and
the coronavirus had so completely captured
humanity's attention that no one even noticed the UFOs.
But in Russia, Regina
Todorenko really did just
take over the conversation. And to a lesser extent I even want
to discuss in substance what exactly was said there,
though we'll touch on that a bit.
What struck me was the situation itself, because Todorenko
effectively became the first
person to seriously suffer
because of public opinion, to be punished
and lose a ton of money
specifically because of public opinion,
because of outrage on social media over the fact that
[__] how could anyone say something like that? Have you ever seen Slutsky (Leonid Slutsky, Russian politician)? It's like water off a duck's back for him.
All the people featured in our
investigations—yes, some resigned,
we filmed things, and after some time
people stepped down. The head of
Russian Railways, for example—once we found apartments in
Miami, and then he
resigned from the Duma the next day.
But most often it's connected with our
investigations in general. But this is nonsense—like,
when some deputies do all kinds of crazy things.
Khinshtein stages a drunken brawl on
a plane, acting like some drunken pig
arguing with the crew—and so what?
He lay low somewhere for six months, and now
he's a deputy again, even cockier, writing
showing off in front of everyone, and he introduced
a bill saying that for insults on the internet
people should now be
fined
and punished. Apparently that was made especially for me and
for people like me, basically, I mean,
it just rolls right off, like water off a duck’s back. But Regina
Todorenko, of course, really got hit with
a major backlash and ended up becoming the person
whom public opinion really
punished. For those who haven’t been following it that closely,
on Instagram, let’s just
go over what happened. It all started when
she gave an interview together with her
husband, Vlad Topalov, and Regina Todorenko
is a very sweet woman, and basically her whole
business is built on the fact that she’s very
very charming — you look at her and you just
can’t help smiling back. Some people just have
that quality. She smiles at you from the screen,
and you think she’s smiling
right at me. That
is a great asset, and it earns her a ton of
money — $880,000 a year, according to
Forbes estimates; at least $1 million a
year, minimum, she earns. And her
husband is
less likable, kind of a pro-government guy
named Vlad Topalov.
So, they gave a joint interview, and
Regina said that when, basically,
a husband beats his wife, that’s a reason to
stop and think what she did for him to hit
her. Here are the 22 seconds that
started the huge scandal.
Russian glamour needs a psychologically
disturbed person who’ll turn on a camera and
start spouting nonsense.
He’s not going to kill you, come on. What is going on inside your head?
Do you even have a brain? How do you even put words together
to say something like that? There must be some kind of
critical moment that happens for you to
say something like that. Why don’t you
ever stop and think about what you did before that
to make him not — well, to make him
hit you?
And that sounded very, very strange.
I mean, Regina Todorenko is a genius when it comes to
marketing and PR.
She knows how to work with huge audiences on
Instagram. But then she stepped a little into
the public-political arena and said a fairly
strange, unacceptable thing. But then it all
really blew up when she
went and gave an interview to
*Glamour* magazine and essentially confirmed all of it.
And she also said that men
who beat their women are merely
the result of how women raised them. Let’s watch
this video: “These men who beat their
wives
are merely the result of women’s
upbringing.”
Why did she say that? I have a
hypothesis, and it is that
this whole Instagram and TikTok world, and everything
else, is built on this thing
called “new sincerity.” They all keep
showing — Todorenko and everyone else —
these supposedly wonderful, actually
quite charming Instagram stars
acting out little scenes from life, things a
person has felt or seen, and then they
look at it and say that phrase — I hate
this expression, but it’s common — like, yeah,
“this is how we do our makeup, and this is how
we get drunk, and this is how people talk
when they’re in relationships” — like, “that’s life.”
And she probably thought that she too could
offer some “new sincerity” and say what
everyone supposedly really thinks, because
every one of us has either been involved in a family
scandal or, as a child,
watched one happen, and it always
looks ugly. There are all kinds of situations in
life, and a hundred times we’ve heard things like,
“yeah, he hit her, but she was nagging him
for ten years,” and actually
she was to blame, and there are all these kids. I mean,
we watch films — love stories, which are
very popular right now — and *Marriage
Story*, that recent film,
I’m getting tongue-tied, Lord — with Scarlett
Johansson — and there too, they
have scandals, they argue, they almost fight,
and it’s presented as some part of life, and there are endless
discussions about how everyone is to blame
and it can’t be avoided.
So she probably thought that if she said
something that is, basically,
quite widespread
in our society — like, that he
hit her because she herself was in the wrong —
people would say, “See? Regina gets it, that’s real life,” and that would be
really cool. But it turned out that “real life”
in Russia is a little different.
And it doesn’t look like the film *Marriage
Story*, where people just argue,
smash dishes, or are ready to — I don’t
know —
fight, make up, argue, whatever.
The reality in Russia is that
someone gets drunk and beats his wife every day,
and then, after a while,
he stabs her to death. We’ve all seen this, and it
is, in fact, a massive problem here.
Dozens, hundreds of women are killed every year
— even every month — in all these domestic violence cases.
I mean, all of this is compounded by alcoholism,
by aggression in society,
by patriarchy in general, and by the fact that
entire state institutions say
that domestic violence is basically just a private matter,
that there’s no need for such a law here — that’s our
reality. And these people who
sit there looking at Instagram and being shown
ads for foundation and all that,
they’ve seen a different life, and
the level of violence is such that
you can’t just say, “well, who knows
they fought, who was to blame, maybe
someone was at fault” — because all of that
ends in a stabbing.
This ends with you
just saying, well, some guy is beating his wife and kids,
or his parents too — that’s just how everything is set up here,
and millions of people are caught up in it.
And so even if someone, of course,
is familiar with situations where,
say, spouses are fighting and God knows which of them
is to blame, still it is absolutely impossible
and unacceptable in Russia to say,
you know, he beats her every night, but
well, maybe she shouldn’t have nagged him, maybe she shouldn’t have
been messing with his head all the time, maybe she should have
thought about it too. You cannot say that in Russia.
You can’t say that in Russia, because if you do,
if you say that, it simply
opens the door to some
completely ugly things. You just can’t
talk like that. It is simply absolutely
unacceptable as a judgment.
And then, accordingly, it all took off.
People basically said,
“Sorry, Regina, but life is different.”
They simply unleashed on her the fury
of retribution, and they attacked
quite skillfully, targeting vulnerable points.
That same magazine, *Glamour*, which had featured the interview,
first responded sarcastically,
and then stripped her of it — they
first said, “Sorry, we can’t”
“take away the title of Woman of the Year,” but then
they did strip her of that title, Woman
of the Year. After that, things just kept falling apart.
And
then one after another, people started dropping her.
Pampers dropped her, a psychologist distanced herself,
and some other brands as well.
They demanded more too; an apology was not enough.
They started terminating contracts with her, because
huge numbers of women were writing in.
Women were writing, including to Western
offices, and in those Western offices people are sitting there
saying, “What did she say?” I mean,
you can talk in different ways about
the complexity of the situation,
yes, but to say that you should
“think about it”
and then imply that, basically,
women get beaten because of something they did —
that is something you cannot say, even if it
corresponds to your own truth or
your experience,
or to some extent to historical reality.
You cannot say that, because people die.
A lot of people die, children
grow up deeply traumatized for
the rest of their lives, families collapse in the broadest
sense — your mother gets stabbed, your father
gets sent to prison for 20 years. This is not an isolated
story. This is just — this is just life
in Russia. This is just ordinary life
in provincial Russia.
So naturally, people in the West are shocked, and
they throw her out of advertising contracts.
And on top of that, of course, her husband
handled the whole thing very strangely, and his
friends were posting things in
support, saying stuff like, “Here we have a bunch of”
“sexually frustrated women,” basically,
who had come to her defense, and Todorenko’s
husband was liking those posts. Naturally,
outraged women and everyone else
were keeping track of who liked what,
and simply started writing to sponsors, and this
had already gone way, way beyond
all bounds. But what I want to say now is
that, well, I
certainly do not want to join
some strange chorus
of people who started
writing letters in defense of
Regina Todorenko.
Because they too very often
phrase things rather strangely. But I want
to say that, in principle, this story is
instructive and important. It matters from the point
of view of — well, the people who
managed, through letters,
through public campaigns, and also
through, among other things,
mockery — I have a great video,
though it is much funnier if you don’t
bleep out the swearing, but even with the swearing censored
— how can I show this on Instagram? Olya
Izmailova,
as I understand it, also some kind of activist
in the feminist movement, trolled her, and
here is that video. Let’s watch one
minute of it.
My lip isn’t split, nobody’s...
I wake up in the morning and I’m full of thoughts:
how do I make my boyfriend
cook dinner in the evening?
Should I steal some soup or...
...and thank God, I wasn’t beaten today either.
Very...
And what did you do?
That’s what I said — believe me.
Run, run, and...
a mistake on the side, now, now, now...
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So, a whole lot of impassioned women on
the internet really did achieve
a political goal and showed
what an enormous force they are. And essentially,
what was the task? To instill
the correct pattern of behavior. Now
everyone has basically been trained. That is,
negative reinforcement, punishment, public shaming —
it really worked. A person ended up losing
hundreds of thousands of dollars, all her contracts, and
she will be dealing with and remembering all this
for a very long time. But now, probably,
there should be positive
reinforcement. In fact, she and
Todorenko has already said that she
was terribly wrong and is offering an apology.
which, apparently, looks quite genuine
sincere — or at least she
put enough emotion into it for them
to seem sincere. They are making a series of videos
about people who became
victims of violence, and this campaign
was very instructive, so, well,
basically, proper behavior should be encouraged
— in other words, they got
Todorenko to do the right things, so
it seems to me that the stick has already been used here,
so now it’s time for the carrot, so to speak.
That’s how everyone should act. Many
people who make mistakes need to be given a way out: for that
they should be punished — yes, that corrects their model of
behavior — but if they are moving in the right
direction, and really going far and doing well in
that right direction, then they should be
encouraged. So probably, yes, she
really did stop to think seriously and realized
that domestic violence in Russia is not
what she used to imagine — like,
“Vlad and I had a fight, and he grabbed a bouquet
of tulips and smacked me with the bouquet
of tulips across the face.” No, that’s not it.
Domestic violence
in Russia is blood, it is horror, it is
people living in communal apartments (shared Soviet-style housing) chasing
each other around in a state of delirium tremens
while three-year-old children are watching it all,
their eyes wide like this. That’s what domestic
violence in Russia is. So I
God forbid I give advice to feminists,
because if you get involved, you’ll be torn to pieces,
nothing but horns and legs left, but it seems to me
that right now it is very important
at least to say that yes,
Todorenko acted absolutely
correctly, and this is how
media figures and public personalities should act
when they, well, blurt something out or do
something wrong — because that can happen
to many people. And in that case, go in that direction, and
sooner or later, at least
most people will forgive you.
I’ve broken the record for all my streams: 2 hours
45 minutes. But I still have one more woman to talk about,
and this woman is much, much less
pleasant
than Regina Todorenko. She says unpleasant things
far more often, and what’s more,
characteristically,
she never apologizes at all. So here are two
examples. In one case, there’s no need to win back
public opinion — the person moved in the
right direction. But this, on the other hand,
does not provoke any pleasant emotions in
anyone at all. In fact, it is a disgrace to our
country, and specifically a disgrace to the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs. I am, of course, talking about Maria
Zakharova, a monstrous woman who
appeared out of nowhere — I mean,
in terms of her views and the kind of things she says —
truly a monstrous woman who emerged
from nowhere and became one of the faces
and symbols of Russia. Good Lord, the things she says
all the time. And Kira Yarmysh, press secretary
of the Anti-Corruption Foundation,
released a video today.
She drew attention to a livestream of hers that
Zakharova recorded on Instagram
with Mikhail Zygar, a well-known journalist, and
there were some statements there that were really
worth paying attention to.
You really need to listen to this very, very carefully
and say everything we
think about it, because
Maria Zakharova really came out and said
that, you know, a whole lot of our
compatriots are now stranded abroad, but
why on earth did they rush off abroad in the first place?
They flew by plane even though they have
loans.
But if you want to go on vacation, then you should
be a wealthy person. Those things should be
off-limits, because vacations and air travel
are a privilege, they are
for the so-called upper class, for those
fancy people — people like me, like all
my friends,
all those wonderful people at
Alexei Venediktov’s birthday party,
Margarita Simonyan,
we can go on vacation and sunbathe, but
what were you doing going there? And if
you did go without money, then sit in the airport
— well, then it’s your own fault. Let’s listen.
At 1 minute 19 seconds in Kira’s video, there
is a quote from Zakharova herself:
Maria Zakharova believes that flying
on a plane is a privilege of rich people, whereas
many of those people had very little to their name
as they traveled around the world, and for them
air travel became something ordinary
because sometimes you don’t even need
to have money for it. She nostalgically recalls
her childhood, when it was available
to a certain class of people who had
the means. After school, I would come to
the embassy’s consular section and watch
my mother at work. Everything was clear
to me then: people who
have money, they
dress accordingly, they
do certain kinds of work, they travel
by plane, they have those
opportunities.
And people who don’t have money, they
travel however they can, they
hitchhike, they are
dressed accordingly, they don’t
lay claim to anything, they are ready to sleep, eat,
wait, and so on, on the floor of a train car, and so
on and so forth. And as for vacations, Zakharova believes
those aren’t for everyone either.
If you do not have enough
money and connections,
you have no right to travel abroad.
A trip abroad is an extremely serious
high-responsibility and very risky
undertaking; basically, you need
a fairly substantial amount of money or
some pretty good connections. You see how brazenly it was put?
It was really addressed as a caste system
of society. And for a person born in
1975, a year
older than me, and generally speaking, back in
those Soviet times, when we’re talking about
the late 1970s and early 1980s, flying on a
plane was not considered any kind of
luxury at all. There was a huge amount of
regional air travel, and in that sense
the Soviet Union made it so that
a large number of Soviet citizens
across that enormous Soviet country could
fly. It’s just strange in the 21st century
to even say that flying on a plane
is only for the elite. And this person, whose
mother worked in the consular department—damn,
in the 1970s, with a mother in the consular department,
this person had it made.
Imported jeans, all the things Soviet people dreamed of
just came along with
an elite Foreign Ministry job, and so even then she
already saw that there were people who
were entitled to things.
They’re decently dressed, they earn well,
they sit here in our wonderful
spacious offices, and then there are ordinary people, like,
there’s you, and then there’s everyone else. Right now, according to official statistics,
69
— or rather 69 percent of people — have no
savings at all,
literally zero savings, and 20-something
percent of people are constantly
in debt. And Maria
Zakharova immediately lumps all of them into some kind of
category, like: well, those people there, they don’t
dress properly, they’re ready to sleep
who knows where, doing who knows what.
What kind of fancy vacation, what kind of flights
on planes are we even talking about? So you see what kind of
wonderful society is being built. Actually, we
see a global trend that it’s normal for
a person to have a home with a mortgage,
a car on credit, to go on vacation on credit,
and retirees everywhere
travel, because that’s
how modern society works: you
get a salary, you have a job,
there are jobs, and you can afford
let’s be honest, not exactly elite
forms of leisure like going to Turkey or
Spain. That’s exactly how it works all over the world,
for God’s sake.
But this is just the basic level of recreation.
A person has a right to rest. But Maria
Zakharova sees society differently. She
sees it as a kind of
elite, an establishment, and then simply everyone
else, who apparently shouldn’t be going
abroad. It’s a dangerous undertaking,
very risky, very expensive. First
check your means: do you
have enough money, are your
clothes clean enough? If you’re just
some student
who’s going somewhere just to
stay in a hostel—why the hell did you even go there?
It’s not for you. You might even be standing in
line next to Maria Zakharova and on the plane
stain her clothes, and who knows what you’re
doing with your backpack, bumping into her. She has so little
time for all this.
She works at the Foreign Ministry now, she’s all
super-elite.
She’s out there presenting herself and drawing the conclusion:
go enjoy your little luxuries somewhere else.
You go off to your Turkeys and Spains,
and then Maria Zakharova has to
pull you out of there, supposedly deal with
the fact that, with your own tax money, they have to hire
a plane for you and bring you back. That’s unacceptable,
it’s outrageous. How dare you,
how dare you bother these wonderful people in
their clean clothes. Well, in terms of how anti-social
these statements are,
Todorenko still outdid Zakharova. But
Todorenko is just a person,
a famous Instagram blogger, singer,
TV host, whatever—but still a private
individual.
But here we have a government
official who, in all seriousness,
is saying that there are, basically, elites,
and then there are just ordinary people, people from
Kemerovo (a Siberian industrial city),
and they can’t fly anywhere. Everything should be arranged differently.
That is, if you
don’t have enough, if you’ve got
a mortgage on your apartment, a loan on your
car, then you supposedly have no right
to have a normal vacation, to fly on a plane
to Sochi or Turkey—you have no right, because
you’re not a good enough person.
You’re just a serf, a [__], who
is supposed to serve these wonderful people. For
them, we open doors; for you, we
do nothing. And I mean, just
watch this broadcast—it’s on
Instagram and on YouTube.
We should not put up with government
officials talking like this. And nobody has yet
forced her to apologize—not at the Foreign Ministry, and no one
has slapped her down. Public opinion
is applying absolutely no pressure, and that leads to
officials continuing to talk like this
because, it has to be said,
Igor is sitting there, Misha is sitting there—someone I think very
highly of—nodding along. Well,
say it: “Maria, even if you think that,
you cannot say it like that, because
you are a government official.”
These people are so poor because they pay you
such an undeservedly large
salary, you useless, talentless
the person who is there with her at all in
some unclear
either, I don't know
whether she's drunk or just pretending to be drunk
a constant beach-party of "Kalinka-Malinka" (a famous Russian folk song)
and we're paying for all of this, so
so pay for him, pay for him there at
Putin's daughter has it too, so they have become
poor, and so they have to buy everything
on credit — you drove them into that
so even if you think that, you do not
have the right to say it, and if you do
say that, then you have no business being in
public service, in state service
you have no place in public service
and we need to get this burden off our backs and not
pay them another kopeck, not one more penny, so here
here we saw a good example of when
both the stick and the carrot were used in relation to
a private individual
but in relation to a government
employee, this should be applied almost
for three hours
93,000 people stayed with the live broadcast until the end
until the end. I salute you, thank you
very much — you're the toughest, well done
I hope you found it interesting. See you
next Thursday. Bye
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