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Good evening, everyone. It is exactly 8:00 p.m. in Moscow.
That means the program *Russia of the Future* is live on air,
and I am its permanent host,
Alexei Navalny—or,
as the Tsargrad TV channel called me this week,
“the man who rudely insulted Vladimir Putin.”
I hope all of you are alive and well,
that you are observing the self-isolation regime,
staying at home and not going anywhere
unless absolutely necessary, and doing
everything you can so that your relatives,
especially those who belong to the older generation,
have the chance to truly
self-isolate properly. You
help them by following precautions,
buying groceries for them, and
in general, preferably not doing anything
that would require them to leave the house. Please send
your questions on Twitter with the hashtag
#RussiaOfTheFuture. I will answer them.
I can already see a very funny
question from Yuri Lopukhov: Do you
think that in the middle of the epidemic the authorities
might try to get rid of
opposition figures and blame it all on the virus?
Well, you mean, they’ll start finding
opposition activists with smashed-in heads
and say the virus is mowing people down—no one is sitting there,
just the virus. In reality, our authorities—
as we can see, and we’ll talk about this
in some detail today—
during a crisis, of course, always
act very strangely, nervously, and
in a confused way. They always try to present themselves
as these tough guys,
but now a real major
crisis has happened, and they do not know what to do. But
without a doubt, they will try in some way
to resort to various
petty and illegal tricks in order
to somehow
—you can’t even call this muddy water—
to extract some benefit
from this horrible environment where
these viruses are floating around. For example, I have no
doubt that they will try,
even when, I hope, this virus is over,
to keep banning any
mass events for as long as possible.
We will almost certainly see mandatory
quarantines where people are locked up, and then try
figuring out whether they actually have coronavirus
or not—but they will be placed under
quarantine, effectively under house arrest.
That cannot be ruled out either. So, well,
our authorities lie, steal, and
cheat, so something like that could
very well happen. And since I’ve started answering
questions, let me grab one more right away.
Sakhare asks me: “Alexei, why do you think
troops are being moved into
Moscow?” There are already videos of this all over the internet.
I’ve seen videos on Twitter too,
on Facebook—some military convoys,
but honestly, for now it seems to me
that this is either made up, or
just some routine troop movement
being presented as troops being massed
in Moscow. It is hard for me to
imagine a situation arising
where Moscow would need to be blocked off
by troops. That would already be some kind of
zombie apocalypse—people running around and being
shot from armored personnel carriers. Unlikely. I
don’t think so. But
I do know for sure that the police
have been put on heightened alert.
Stricter quarantine measures
may be introduced, and police officers may,
as in Italy now, walk the streets and tell everyone,
“Go back inside.” That could
happen. But actually massing troops would be
pretty stupid. Not to mention that
bringing troops together somewhere means
all those troops will infect one another.
Of course, the troops are mostly made up
of young people, but they also have
commanders and other people who are
older. I think they understand too
what that could lead to. And this whole
coronavirus situation
has completely pushed aside the entire news agenda.
You can see it: no one is discussing
anything else anymore. Any other news
is completely relegated to the margins.
And that is obvious, because our
entire way of life has changed completely.
It may change even more. This is
a kind of enormous experiment on
humanity, unfolding in many
different areas. For example,
take the sphere of
distance education,
where this is truly a massive experiment:
students who used to study in person
are now all studying remotely. And
that includes university students, schoolchildren, poor performers,
solid students, and top students alike. And after
some time, we will have a huge
amount of data that will let us
finally understand whether
distance learning is actually effective
or not. That is one small point. Of course, there is
far, far more that is negative. I
simply want to urge that
when we discuss coronavirus, we
should still pay attention and keep track—we must not
forget about other
news and events that are
happening and have happened. And it seemed right to me
to begin today’s program
by recalling that two
years ago, a terrible, horrifying
tragedy occurred that shook and
united the entire country. It is hard for me
to remember another event that
also, well,
Obviously, coronavirus is a much bigger issue,
but nevertheless this was the main topic
of discussion for several days.
The whole country was genuinely horrified, grieving
and crying. This was the infamous fire at Winter
Cherry (the Zimnyaya Vishnya shopping mall in Kemerovo), when 60 people died, of whom
37 were children. Let’s watch this
29-second video of what it looked like.
Remember, at the time we watched all of this
in real horror. These live images were simply
online just
unbearable to watch.
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rescuers. If it is possible to use them
during emergency
rescue operations.
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You can see—you just saw this
Winter Cherry shopping mall after
the active phase of the fire had
been extinguished; it was still smoldering
for several more days. And two years have passed, yet
the investigation is still ongoing there. And unfortunately, very few people
are following that investigation,
and very few people understand at all what is
happening there. And the worst thing is that, basically,
you can’t say that any
lessons were learned, and you can’t say that
those responsible were punished. There were also
repeated rallies, and in
Kemerovo there were huge protests, uh, back
then. But what is happening now?
The investigation is already in its final stage. And
the most senior person who has been charged
is the head of the local EMERCOM (Russia’s Ministry of Emergency Situations). That’s it. And we have not
seen any systemic, truly
major systemic changes
not the kind where they say, let’s
send inspectors around to check all
the shopping malls. No, we have not seen
any systemic changes in this
very permit-and-approval system, where for
money you can always get any
authorization you want. It worked that way before,
and it still works that way. Yesterday I was
on air on Echo of Moscow with Yegor Zhukov, and he
asked me this question: “Alexei, you
are aiming for leadership, so
why do you keep focusing on
such a small and narrow issue as
corruption?” And at the time, well, I
said that I simply believe that
corruption is one of the key
problems. And the political regime is built
on corruption. But unfortunately I did not think of
this example. And the day before yesterday, I think, Poland
extradited
the co-owner of Winter Cherry, finally, to
Russia. And he is accused of
paying a bribe to the local fire safety
inspectorate—7 million rubles (about $90,000 at the time)—so that
his property would not be inspected. And accordingly,
it was not inspected for five years,
after which all this happened.
And the thing is that, as we can see, well,
in this specific
case corruption became the cause of people’s deaths.
And more broadly,
it is the cause of the system’s overall rot, because
everything is arranged exactly this way. It’s just that
here, tragically and horrifically, 60
people burned to death. And in all the other places, well,
fortunately, no tragic situations
have occurred, so exactly the same thing
continues to happen. We saw no
resignations, no punishments,
no reckoning at the highest levels of EMERCOM, where
absolutely everything is rotten, everything has decayed,
especially in this area of fire
protection, and in the sphere of obtaining any
permits, sanitary [ __ ] permits. Everything
is done for money, absolutely everything. And here
we simply have one specific case
where once again we saw a 7 million ruble bribe.
No inspections, and complete—uh—they give you
all the paperwork in full, after which
people die. The outlet Baza released a full
documentary about this. I’ll show 30 seconds of it.
It’s simply a demonstration of just how
fundamentally wrong everything there
was done.
Investigators from the Investigative Committee were documenting everything
that might point to the cause of the fire or
to ways it could have been prevented. Here,
for example, on the fourth floor they
noticed two cabinets with fire hose valves.
And look at this photo. Here is the valve with
the handwheel for turning on the water. The fire hose
is supposed to connect here. See,
the thread is male. And here is another photo—this is
the hose itself. And as you can see, its thread
is also male. So what does that mean?
It means that physically it was impossible
to connect them. And it was like this in every fire
cabinet. The hoses were just placed there
for show.
Great that the Investigative Committee officers are now
walking through the ashes, photographing these
hoses, and seeing that the threads are the wrong
type. But we understand very well
—someone from “Chel Democracy” is asking me:
“Alexei, who do you think is to blame for
this Winter Cherry tragedy?” Every
tragedy has specific people responsible. There,
part of the blame lies directly with
the firefighters, who acted improperly
during that situation.
Of course, and, properly speaking, the
people who took bribes first and foremost,
the people who paid bribes, and in general
the entire permit-and-approval system of Russia and
of Kemerovo Region—the governor, Tuleyev,
effectively created within Russia
a small mafia-style gangster
state. And in Kemerovo Region everything
was decided, and still is decided, exactly this way. For
money. Well, in reality the police there are
quite simply real bandits.
are simply no different from
bandits. And all the authorities in Kemerovo
Region are just outright
bandits. They do everything in exactly this
way. Fine then. They found a local
EMERCOM official (Russia's Ministry of Emergency Situations), uh, and jailed him. But Tuleyev,
and all the others? We understand that
major facilities like a large
shopping mall in the city center
paid everyone off. And the owner of that shopping
mall paid officials, he paid
sanitary inspectors, he simply paid
the local administration. Bribes were delivered to
everyone, and everyone took part in it. But more broadly,
the whole country is structured in exactly
the same way. And, uh, everyone kind of
hoped that after this terrible
tragedy there would at least be some kind of, uh,
discussion about how, even if, obviously, on the whole
Putin's system is corrupt,
still, at least within this corrupt
system, we might create some kind of
segment of the permitting
documentation where, well, corruption
can't be eradicated, but it wouldn't be
on such a scale that it could lead
to tragedies. Absolutely none of that
happened. They just, like, forgot about it, and that was that.
They found scapegoats and jailed
the scapegoats. Some families are still
crying. Every year they light candles,
with photos of the children who died. And the state
has moved on and no longer looks back. And
the new fire safety chief gets
a new 7 million rubles from the new mall director
(about $75,000). Because those are the rules,
and they tell each other: "It's not that we're
like this, it's life that's like this." Because
that really is how everything is set up, and
life should not be arranged this way. 40,000
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And
coronavirus
won't let me move on—no, let's put it this way,
coronavirus won't let Tatyana Navka get away
without my mentioning her on my
broadcast, because nobody is noticing this.
It's terribly frustrating. Terribly
frustrating that, as I already said,
coronavirus has swallowed up absolutely the entire
news agenda, while right now
there is an absolutely astonishing,
wild corruption scandal unfolding, involving
the
wife of the press secretary—uh,
the press secretary to the President of Russia,
Dmitry Peskov. They are quite a
corrupt couple. We'll talk about Peskov
more later. This week he angered the whole country
by saying that it was a very good idea
to tax bank deposits of, uh,
one million rubles (about $10,700). We'll talk about
that. But right now we're talking about Tatyana
Navka, and a very interesting thing is happening with her.
She has an ice
show. Obviously, she's a woman with resources. Well,
besides that, she really is a genuine,
the real deal—not just a figure skater, but a
talented athlete. I mean,
she's a corrupt and hypocritical woman,
but nevertheless she's a talented
athlete and skates in her ice show.
She put on a show, and among others
it features the famous young figure skater
Alina Zagitova. But since these are
crooks, they can't do things any other way. And what do
crooks do? Well, there's this man,
the vice president of the Moscow Figure Skating
Federation and deputy head of the Khrustalny Ice
Palace. His name is Eduard
Aksyonov. And this Eduard Aksyonov is playing
the role of his life. I'll still be
talking about the investigation into
these parasites. Many of you probably saw
how Margarita Simonyan got 9 million rubles (about $96,000)
for a screenplay. But this guy did something even
more outrageous. So, there's an ice show. And, uh,
this ice show takes in money from
ticket sales and pays fees. So there,
Zagitova gets some fee,
Navka probably gets some kind of
fee—she gets
6.5 million rubles (about $69,000) for taking part in this show. Pyotr
Chernyshev, I don't know, probably some
well-known figure skater, also gets 3 million
rubles (about $32,000). And this Aksyonov
supposedly performs some role there and gets
8 million rubles (about $85,000) for it. While formally
speaking a government official, he is with the
Moscow Figure Skating Federation, meaning he
effectively works for the Moscow sports authorities,
yet he gets 8 million rubles. The thing is,
he doesn't skate there. There is no such
role. They literally invented a
fictional role in this show so that
this official could receive 8 million rubles.
So Navka is effectively
handing over
a bribe, simply legalizing it through
a fake contract for, uh, the provision of
some kind of acting services by this very
Eduard Aksyonov, and in this way she is simply handing over
a bribe to the deputy head
of the ice palace. And now, of course,
a scandal has erupted, though not as big as
one might have hoped, because once again
coronavirus. And, uh, well, they were basically backed
all up against the wall and told: "Well, 8 million rubles
(about 80,000-90,000 USD) are there. Please, just look at the man,
he doesn’t dance on the ice. No double
toe loops, no triple toe loops, no
toe loops at all. He just sits there in his
office room, collecting 8 million
rubles. And Navka gave an absolutely astonishing
comment. She said:
"Indeed, the question arose as to why
Eduard Aksyonov received money but did not
skate in the show. He really did not
skate; he is not a figure skater at all." So
they drew up a contract for him, damn it, for
participation in an ice show, but he isn’t even
a figure skater. And she goes on to explain:
"The thing is that Alina Zagitova
is a minor, and under
Russian law she cannot have
her own sole proprietorship." Therefore Eduard Aksyonov
with the agreement of Alina’s parents
represented, and continues to represent,
the figure skater’s interests. Everything is in strict
compliance with the law.
My God, what brazen people they are, and what
idiots they really take us for.
So, Zagitova can take part in
all championships, she can receive
fees, she can enter into
advertising contracts. I mean,
it doesn’t matter that she is a minor and
cannot register a sole proprietorship. Why would she
need one at all?
A person who is one day old
can still be arranged to receive
money; you can sign a contract with their
parents. No problem. You can pay money
to a person of any age. So, I mean,
they are just blatantly lying. And I’m very
interested to see how they are going to wriggle out of
this situation. Because
this is simply a fake contract, an obvious
forgery. An official, and moreover the
deputy head of this palace, receives 8
million rubles under a fake contract.
The explanation is a complete lie. In other words,
Peskov’s wife has been caught in her
corruption scheme. I’m very
interested to see what happens next, and I urge all of you
to keep an eye on this, because
well, they’ll hush it up, using the epidemic as a
distraction. A quick shuffle here and there,
people will basically stop discussing all this,
and Navka will go back to her usual
business, buying another watch for 37 million
rubles (about 370,000-400,000 USD), or however much those
watches they give each other cost. It’s very important
to keep this issue alive. So just
follow what is happening, and I will also
keep watching and report on it here.
And we must not leave this whole disgusting corrupt
family alone
for a single second. 48,000 people are watching us
live. That’s really cool, actually.
Well, actually 50,000 people are watching
live. I’m already being corrected here.
You’re all sitting at home in quarantine, you’re
all bored, so you’re all watching
the program. I’m very glad. They say that
YouTube is now going to reduce streaming speeds.
So far that hasn’t happened, but
I hope it won’t, and that
we won’t end up in a situation where
we’re all locked at home and our only
friend is the internet. And then, bang,
the internet slows down and we can’t
watch anything. And Anna Vaska, Anna
Vaska One says: "Alexei, please tell
my husband
to disinfect his hands. He’ll definitely
believe you. Dear husband, I’m honestly
surprised that anyone needs to tell you such an
elementary thing. There are actually
a lot of people now who call
themselves COVID dissidents, and they
say that all of this is really
not that important, that the death rate
is indeed low, 1 or 3 percent, nobody
really knows. But in any case, you often
hear this line of thinking: "Well, where are these
mountains of corpses? Please show us." So,
there’s quarantine, so much talk, but where are the
people dying in the streets? And there are no people
dying in the streets. I hope we
never, ever see that. But if everything
goes wrong, then there will be many
people dying in hospitals. Those people, uh,
will most often, unfortunately, be elderly
people. Though young people, as we know,
are dying now too. People are getting sick. Lev
Leshchenko (a famous Russian singer) is currently in serious condition
in the hospital. Boris Akunin (a well-known Russian writer) wrote today on
Facebook that he also has
coronavirus. So, dear husband,
do it, if not for yourself—if you are
a COVID dissident—then for the rest of
your family. You grab onto something somewhere in the metro
and bring this virus home,
infecting everyone there. And maybe
you’ll get off lightly and just
spend a day in bed. Maybe you’ll carry it
without symptoms and not even notice, or maybe not.
Are you really prepared to expose your own family even to
a one-percent
chance of death? Probably
not. So please wash
your hands constantly, and put
these little bottles everywhere, if you can still
buy them, filled with disinfectant.
That is the simplest thing we
can do, and we must do it.
Uh, General Shoigu,
uh, dragged our Ruslan Shaveddinov off to
Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), and also somehow
showed off in a completely hellish way in this
last week, and he was speaking in the Federation
Council. And of course, he was talking about
how, uh, around Russia
hordes of terrible pro-Western
liberals are gathering. And all Western countries,
of course, are sharpening their daggers and weaving
their intrigues against Mother Russia. And so he
was speaking in this Federation Council, and well, I mean
obviously, he was talking nonsense. Shoigu
is talking nonsense. In general, basically, these days
any official is always talking nonsense,
because whenever they are asked about pretty much
anything, they start talking
about the terrible West. About absolutely anything.
But what is monstrous is that the entire
Federation Council is sitting there, applauding him or
nodding along. Here is a man saying:
"Nonsense!" And there sits a whole gang
of idlers, each of whom earns
half a million rubles a month (about several thousand U.S. dollars). And they nod,
saying, "Well done, Sergei Kuzhugetovich,
let's hear him out." Western countries
regularly accuse Russia of involvement
in high-profile incidents such as
interference in U.S. elections,
various hacking attacks, concealment of
combat losses, and so on. In our
country, these claims are picked up by the
pro-Western opposition division,
regularly trained abroad.
Sheltering behind media laws,
its activists try
to infiltrate military facilities, hunt
for relatives and witnesses,
push their way into hospitals where our
wounded and sick are being treated, into cemeteries and to
memorial gatherings
and into the families of our fallen boys,
film the entrances and exits of our restricted
facilities and post them online. One can
imagine what kind of liability they would face
in Western countries. This area
requires further legislative
regulation.
About the pro-Western opposition division. And,
of course, this area requires
legislative regulation. In other words,
ban something again. How about you
just stop lying. Here he is
contradicting himself. He says: "They
accuse us of covering up
combat losses." Well, you are covering them up.
You really are hiding them. And no one would
be running around cemeteries filming
random graves if you would just stop
hiding it, for heaven's sake. But this is simply
disrespectful toward our own
soldiers. If you send them somewhere
to Syria, in whatever capacity, as
contract soldiers, regular servicemen, or
members of Wagner PMC (a Russian private military company), whatever you call it, they are
still Russian citizens. We do not
really understand what they are fighting for there in
Syria, but if they die, why are you
hiding all of this? Why do you keep
lying endlessly? And with Shevedin, what
is happening is still completely
unclear — no one knows where the person is.
The Ministry of Defense comes out and
says: "He has contacted his relatives. He has
such-and-such status, he is in such-and-such
unit." But he does not call. And he is supposed to have
a phone. He is supposed to make a call at least once a week.
We do not know where
he was taken. They literally kidnapped
the man, took him to Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), and are holding him
in a status somewhere between a prisoner and a
hostage.
And on top of that, they blame the pro-Western
opposition division. They do not like it
that we are poking around and trying to
find things out. Well, of course we are trying
to find out why you kidnapped a person. And,
not to mention that, well, good grief,
look,
I have already said that EMERCOM (Russia's Ministry of Emergency Situations) is one of the
most corrupt agencies. This whole, uh,
halo that has been created
around Shoigu, as if he created
some kind of super-efficient rescue
ministry — he created no such thing. It is
an absolutely hyper-corrupt,
inefficient system in which people now
are paid next to nothing. These
EMERCOM rescue workers write to us at
FBK (the Anti-Corruption Foundation) all the time, saying, guys,
pay attention to us. They raise salaries for these people,
and for those people, but for us
they pay practically nothing. There are these
cushy, lucrative positions. Those are exactly
the ones where
all sorts of fire-safety approvals get signed off. And
everything else is just poverty,
destitution, and collapse — there is nothing. And meanwhile
there are just super-rich people: Shoigu,
whose house we showed a few years
ago, and all his deputies — they are all
millionaires and multimillionaires,
you understand? Yet they pin medals all over themselves,
climb onto the stage, and lecture us about the
pro-Western opposition division. Every one of
them has an account in the West. Every
single one. Maybe not in Switzerland, but
somewhere, I do not know, in the Middle East, in the
broader foreign "West." All of them
keep money abroad. All of them live
in direct luxury. All of them are
multimillionaires, but damn it, they lecture us and
demand measures of legislative
regulation. It is simply outrageous.
Dig, dig, dig and find. Apparently,
that is the username. Fourteen planes flew to Italy.
There are no masks in our pharmacies, and they are going to take 13%
from bank deposits. We will talk about
that. Ah, just before the program
I saw an excellent tweet by Vladimir
Varfolomeyev, head of the news service at
Echo of Moscow, who, uh, was complaining
about Minister Manturov, who two weeks
ago said, "Guys, don't buy
any antiseptics, don't buy
any disinfectants, because
you're rushing out in a panic and clearing everything off the shelves."
In a week, everything will be supplied, everything
will be in abundance. Our government will produce everything,
our industry
is capable. There's nothing.
Go to a pharmacy and try to buy this
little bottle of disinfecting
liquid. You won't be able to
do it. There are no masks, no—there's nothing. Well,
we'll talk more about this now, but it's just
all terrible that they can't even manage
the most basic things
at all.
And
yesterday, on that very broadcast on Echo
of Moscow (a Russian radio station), where I was with Yegor Zhukov, he
—look, on the Echo of Moscow website there's
a transcript posted, there's both a transcript and
video. And, well, he was, uh, grilling
me. It was very interesting. I really
liked the broadcast. And I liked Zhukov too.
I hadn't met him before. And he,
well, asked me: "So, you
held this rally and achieved nothing."
You organized such a rally and achieved
nothing. You said a lot of things,
but you accomplished nothing. What
did you achieve? Now I can say. I
achieved this. The FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) achieved this:
Margarita Simonyan has been silent for four days
in a row. She's an absolutely relentless person,
someone who is practically bursting
from the inside if she's not sitting on Twitter
or on her Telegram channel praising her
boss. For four days she's kept her mouth shut
or, I don't know, stuffed her mouth with some kind of,
I don't know, beaver meat or something
like that—and stayed silent.
And that is, of course, thanks to the second part
of our investigation, *Parasites*, which
we released on Tuesday. I think that,
of course, this is quite a painful blow
for these family parasites, because
in fact, this film *The Crimean Bridge*
was made as a gift for Putin. They
kept saying it was being made as
a gift for Putin and were feeding everyone
a line. They really love talking about
what philanthropists they are, what good
people. And I have no doubt that they
went around all their superiors and told them how
wonderfully they made this film, what a great one it was,
using Film Fund money, and that they didn't take a kopeck
for themselves. And we simply came along and
explained that they took for themselves approximately
everything—they just stole it all. And now even by
their own internal-understanding system,
why is Simonyan sitting quietly there and saying
nothing? Because even by the standards
of these crooks, on this film
they obviously had no right to steal
that much, and now they are in a very
difficult situation. Well, the film is up on
the main channel. Let me remind you—1
minute 16 seconds—what it's about.
So, there are 100 million rubles (about 100 million RUB), and filming can begin.
But before that, they need to assemble
the film crew.
Kiosayan: David Kiosayan, Tigran's daughter
Laura Kiosayan, the wife of Tigran Kiosayan's brother's son,
Yunona Glotova. Alexander
Kiosayan—Tigran's daughter, second director.
Edmond Kiasayan, David's son, line
producer. And even Alyona Khmelnitskaya,
Tigran Kiosayan's ex-wife. And she
appeared in this film too. 9 million rubles (RUB).
That is exactly how much of the Film Fund money
was transferred to Margarita's personal
account. To Tigran Kiosayan's account at
Sberbank went 14 million rubles (RUB) for his services as
director and music producer.
The final financial breakdown, taking into account
money from Putin's friend Rotenberg,
looks like this: some relatively
substantial money was spent on
computer graphics and equipment
rental. The rest is far less
significant. And any, any expenses on
the picture simply pale in comparison to
the parasites' fees. They receive 30% of
the film's total budget.
When we started working on this
investigation, *Parasites*, well, we immediately
saw that they were stealing a lot of
money in the production of this
disgusting program, uh, *International
Sawmill*. And we understood that with
*The Crimean Bridge*, there would be something there. Because
these are the kind of people who simply cannot help but
steal. Basically, everything
they do, they do with the idea that
something can be stolen from it. But of course,
I didn't suspect, and none of us
suspected that this could be done
so openly. Just go ahead and
pay yourself 9 million rubles (RUB) for the screenplay.
Everywhere, in every interview, emphasizing
—we didn't force them to say it—in every
interview they said they wrote it in the evenings, that it was
a hobby. Why? Because
it was a gift. Because Margarita
went to her main job—glorifying
her boss. She got very tired, but
still came home and stole away
minutes from her children, from her loved ones, from
cooking, from the things she loved. She took
time just to sit there
and secretly write the screenplay for
*The Crimean Bridge*. What a heroine. And then—bang—
9 million rubles (RUB). More expensive than a screenplay by the most
renowned screenwriter in Russia. And that is,
of course, well, that's why they are
silent now—they're suffering now. Well, the Film
Fund allocated 100 million rubles (RUB), and they took it
half of it, 50. This is, of course, well, this is
really something criminal. And
right now, of course, there won’t be any criminal case there
there won’t, there won’t be one, they’ll hush it all up. But how are they
supposed later, this Cinema Fund, to deal with
other directors, and with other
producers, and how are they supposed to build
relationships at all, when now everyone knows that,
guys, you can’t make
any claims against anyone over misuse of funds.
If out of 100 million rubles, Simonyan and Kiasayan
took 50, and took it, uh, well, like
directly there—and what’s more, we only counted
the direct expenses. Well, there, if there is
a contract, Simonyan gets 9 million rubles, Kiasayan
gets 14 million rubles. We added it all up
and saw that overall, from the budget, with
Rotenberg’s money included, they took for themselves
30%, and 50% of the Cinema Fund’s money. But people
who understand film later told us
already said, guys, look here,
here’s Kiasayan’s brother, uh, David, he pays himself
13 million rubles there as a producer. Plus
he hires two producer’s assistants, uh, and
pays them there—his son and his son’s wife, I think
his son and his son’s wife—and pays them 3–4 million rubles there.
Plus, look, another 8 million rubles.
for the production team. You understand,
that those three people are
the production team. So that money
was stolen too. Same thing with the directing
team. There’s director Kiasayan, 14
million rubles. His daughter, the second director, 4
or 5 million rubles, I don’t remember off the top of my head.
And then there’s also the directing team, also
several million rubles there. That’s them
too. So in fact, the amount
stolen was even greater. But we
just didn’t want to get into those
film-industry weeds. We just did it the way
people who don’t understand film would do it:
we simply looked at the budget estimate and saw everything.
These are, of course, astonishingly greedy
people. And to just steal like this right under
the noses of Putin and Rotenberg over
the very holiest thing they have,
the Crimean Bridge, well, that’s really something.
And it’s interesting. We monitor
the reaction, including the reaction of various
pro-government guys to our film.
And, well, naturally, all
the opposition people are outraged, all
normal people are outraged. But there is
this Konstantin Rykov—old internet-timers
will remember one of the most
disgusting things there ever was
that the Russian
internet had seen, back when the show
*International Sawmill* (a Russian political satire TV show) didn’t exist yet. Before that, the most
disgusting and vile thing was this
KontrTV, which was made by Kremlin
political strategist Rykov together with this
crook Anton Krasovsky, who
now works for Rusha Today
and another crook, Sergei Minaev. It was
some completely, well,
disgusting, pathetic show. Nobody
watched it. They shut it down, as I understand it,
after siphoning off a huge amount
of money there. And now they’ve remade
the program, and someone sends me a clip of it. He
says: “Look at what these
pro-Kremlin people are saying about Margarita
Simonyan. It’s very interesting. Let’s
listen.”
The complaint there, in my view, is
an aesthetic one about this film. It’s awful.
You just want to turn it off immediately
on aesthetic grounds. A film’s function is to be
beautiful aesthetically. And moreover,
well, to carry some meaning, you know,
you can’t just engage in pure speculation
using the word “Crimea.” That’s, that’s what
my personal complaint is, and it’s a very awful
simply disgraceful execution. There are, uh,
certain people to whom, well, film
shouldn’t be entrusted at all. Uh, this is
exactly what the Crimean Bridge is an example of,
that films like this are better not
made at all, so as not to disgrace yourself.”
Well, maybe Tigran Kiasayan has
some good film to his name. I haven’t
heard of it, to be honest. So. Well, this is
just a very bad project, uh, from the very
beginning, and a very bad story. And all
the people who got involved in it and
knowing the film was bad, said: “Oh,
how wonderful it is, oh, how
marvelous it is.” In reality, well,
God will judge you all. If you
call it
marvelous, it won’t become marvelous
because of that,
right? How much are writers’ fees
for books, for example? Obviously there
are certain models by which this is
calculated. There are also
certain models for how—well,
there is, yes, of course, a market. Of course,
9 million rubles, uh, that’s, let’s say,
about twice too much for—well, no, for this
project, I really don’t know. I think
here, well, what, did this film even have
a script?
You’ve just seen a conversation not among opposition figures, but
from Putin’s chief internet man. Well,
maybe he’s no longer the chief one now, and that
same Margarita Simonyan has become
the main one. But Konstantin Rykov was simply
Putin’s number one fighter. We did
an investigation into him and found
his villa, of course, in Nice. So this is
the man who was the internet director of Channel One
(Russia’s main state TV channel). In other words, he stole a lot of money,
bought himself a villa in Nice. Everything is going very
well for him, and he loves Putin very much. The second one, this
young woman here, her name is Maria Kasatonova
or Katasonova. Ah, Katasonova, yes, she’s also
That’s how it is.
Mm.
an internet diva from the support apparatus of all these
pro-Putin brigades. I mean, these are people
who are, of course, pretty small-time, these
Putin cockroaches, obviously, but still
just listen to the words they use. You can’t endlessly
exploit the issue of Crimea. You can’t
double the budget for scripts. That’s
important. And, uh, I’m very
satisfied that, as it seems to me,
this is also a good way of influencing
that whole pro-Putin audience, so that
they can see just how deceitful and disgusting
all these people are. I saw a question here:
"Alexei, why do you think Margarita
Simonyan makes all these awful films?"
Well, she makes them for two reasons.
First, because she simply cannot
do anything properly.
I mean, it’s a case of negative selection.
Only very stupid and
talentless people rise to the top. Do you think Simonyan
and Keosayan wouldn’t like to come up with good jokes
for their, uh, that
little comedy revue of theirs? Or that they wouldn’t want
to write a good film script? They would,
but they can’t. They are, in
essence, talentless, stupid people. That’s
the first reason they do it. And second,
well, they need money. Our state is
very rich. There is an enormous amount of money
in these corporations, and they simply
make the rounds. And everywhere they take a little—or
quite a lot, as we’ve seen. And
we simply can’t imagine
how much these people make from Rusha
Today. Because everything we described in
our investigations—all those schemes involving,
uh, NTV and Aeroflot, all those schemes with
the Crimean Bridge—they pale in
comparison to RT Today’s budget of 20 billion
rubles (about US$250 million). Just think: if on a
film with a budget of 150 million rubles (about US$1.9 million) they stole 54 million (about US$675,000),
how much are they siphoning off together with Gromov
and various other people from
Russia Today. These are enormous,
colossal sums of money. And someday,
when Margarita Simonyan is sitting on the
defendant’s bench and we find all her
accounts and pull out of some basement
some gold bars or
diamonds—I don’t know, whatever it is
wherever she keeps that money—we, I
think, will be very shocked by the scale
of the wealth these people have. Uh, and, uh,
many thanks to everyone who is helping us
spread this investigation right now,
when nobody is interested in anything
except coronavirus. It’s very important
to show that these are not just some
ordinary guys from Krasnodar who came
here, simple folks who love Putin. They are nothing
of the sort. They are greedy crooks,
multimillionaires.
And when they say—when Simonyan says
that she donates her salary
to children, to charitable
projects, she should be told: "Please be quiet,
Margarita, because you
may well donate your large salary—I don’t know, a million
rubles a month (about US$12,500)—you may donate it
to someone, but from those same sick children
you are taking hundreds of millions of rubles." That
is exactly how this should be viewed.
63,000 people are watching live.
A reminder: you can ask me questions
using the hashtag Russia of the Future on
Twitter. I’ll try
to answer them.
And Putin
has postponed his idiotic vote. This is
the best news of the week, but he
couldn’t avoid doing it. It’s clear that they
dragged this out until the very last moment. It was
obvious that Putin personally wanted
to hold this vote on April 22 after all
and get all this over with,
all of it, and finally enthrone himself as
a super-mega-president
with super-mega-powers. But in fact
these really are extraordinary
powers. Any lawyers
or political scientists who study what
Russia is, how its system is structured, what it’s
called—they call it a super-presidential
republic, where the president has
super-powers. That was before. Now
to this super-presidential
republic they are adding powers that,
well, simply should not exist in a country
that declares, for example,
the separation of powers. In other words,
the president will control
absolutely everything. And, uh,
the revolting, vile, disgusting
people who
are urging, really urging the general
public—pensioners first and foremost—to
go vote in this. They inspire in me
a special kind of disgust. I wanted
to talk about them, yes. This
vote, it
has been postponed; it will take place at some later
time. But at the same time, I repeat, it has already
entered into force. Even former, former
former Constitutional Court judge,
Constitutional Court judge Tamara
Morshchakova, wrote a long
detailed opinion on the matter. You
can read it, and especially if you’re a
lawyer, you’ll find it interesting. She is one
of Russia’s best-known legal scholars.
She writes very clearly that, folks,
under Article 136 of the Constitution,
all of this has already entered into force. Therefore
the Constitutional Court, when it was
reviewing all this, should have
to regard these amendments as
already in force, because in the
constituent regions of the Russian Federation
they voted, so all of this has already been adopted. And
this so-called nationwide vote is
a clown show, but they need it. And these
disgusting people here, I won’t, I won’t
hold back on derogatory, uh, whatever
insults and comments about them,
despite the fact that they’ll be there
squealing back in response, all these Moshkovs,
Bezrukovs, Gazmanovs. And I urge
everyone to treat them exactly the same way. Well,
yes, a talented actor, fine,
a talented actor. You skillfully portray
other people on screen, but then you
step off that, that stage,
go back to ordinary life, go to the
Kremlin and lie for money. And for money
you deceive people, you deceive these
poor pensioners and say:
"Folks, let’s come out and vote for
the Russian language." But everyone will come out and
be voting to give Putin more powers. And all of
this has been arranged deliberately in such a way
as to fool everyone, to deceive everyone. So
now we’ll have more time before the
fake vote on these amendments.
We, uh, despite the fact that right now
there’s a postponement and everyone has already forgotten
about the vote, to hell with it, there’s
coronavirus, we’re just trying to survive. But this
can’t simply be dropped. Every
day we have to campaign, explaining to
people what a lie this is. Did you see, uh,
what Gazmanov is urging people to vote for?
Let’s take a look at
the disgusting Oleg Gazmanov.
My parents lived through the entire Great
Patriotic War (the Soviet term for the Eastern Front of World War II). My father ended the war
in Berlin, and my mother in distant Khalkhin Gol.
And I will vote for those amendments to the
Constitution that will not give even a chance
to distort our history, trample on the memory of
our heroes, or desecrate the graves of
my ancestors. It is important to come and
vote.
What a shameless man. He’s combed over his little fringe,
all gray, looks respectable enough. Khl-
Khalkhin Gol, the graves of his parents, his ancestors,
he’s dragged all of that into this. He knows,
the bastard knows, that all this was done so that
Putin would get the votes he needs
for his powers, for resetting
his term limits. And this has absolutely nothing
to do with it. No one is going to revise the outcome,
no one will be able to mock it. What could you
possibly write into the Constitution so that no one could
mock it? What does any of this even
have to do with history? You can’t
write something about history into the Constitution.
He knows that perfectly well, but he took the money
and lies to these people. Then he’ll sing for
them, jump around, spin like a top,
performing “Yesaul,” “Eskadron,” and all
his other songs with their stolen
melodies, and keep on lying,
what utterly repulsive people they are. And those
very people whom you now ought to, uh,
protect from coronavirus—first and
foremost the elderly—they watched this
Gazmanov, many of them like him, and these are
familiar tunes, we all know Gazmanov’s songs
and so on, but you simply need to
tell them: you’re being lured in, folks,
that these people, with their respectable
appearance, with their gray little fringes, are
lying brazenly, they are deceiving you, they
are doing it so that you can be
robbed. Moshkov,
good Lord, has grown his beard down to his waist. And
with that beard he comes out too and lies just
completely shamelessly. Let’s watch
the disgusting Moshkov.
Our country is not just a territory,
it is a big family with centuries-old traditions
and a unique culture. I want
the borders of our homeland to be inviolable and
for no one to have the opportunity
to take part of our territory for themselves,
or rewrite our history. The amendments to the
Constitution guarantee the protection of
Russia’s sovereignty. If this matters to you
as much as it does to me, come to the
vote.
Well, it’s just, it’s simply impossible
to watch. What hypocrisy too. And those
supposedly intelligent eyes. And there he is,
nodding his head. And that’s it. And it was all
deliberately conceived and
done that way. People sat around saying to
each other: "What can we do?" Well, in order
to better deceive those people
who do not follow
politics very closely.
Let’s bring out Moshkov. He’ll have
that full beard, and with his
smart-looking eyes he’ll lie right to the faces of all these
people. But in fact, I know perfectly well,
no one wants to tangle with actors.
Well, they’re famous people, many people love them.
And so politicians generally try, well,
why, so to speak, criticize Moshkov or
Gazmanov, because in response they’ll
say something back, and it’s more trouble than it’s worth
to get involved. I think the stakes now
are high enough that it is worth
taking them on, because they really are
scoundrels who will damage our country
for years to come. So, things are already fairly
bad here, very bad, but they got
their fees at the cost of
making life worse for us and for our children.
They, uh, will continue to destroy
the country’s economy. Just look at what
is happening now. In fact, for the sixth year in a row
people’s incomes have been falling. And these people come out and
do everything so that Putin can
to be elected in '36, in 136,
and so on, and so on. Ella
Pamfilova, when discussing these amendments,
also
sort of let something slip in a very revealing way.
She also effectively admitted
that these amendments already have legitimacy,
because they have already been voted on.
Let's listen.
We all already understand that the
procedure, in accordance with the currently
effective Constitution, which
has taken place, already legitimizes those
amendments that have been adopted. It is absolutely
legitimate already on the basis that
the legitimately elected State Duma
and the Federation Council, and our legitimately
elected legislative assemblies
of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation
by two-thirds, three-fourths, and three and two
thirds, this law has already been adopted, these
amendments have been adopted. This
process itself is already legitimate
and one can only treat with
great respect the fact that
the president did not stop there, and his
political will and desire to hear, in this
case, something not provided for under the
current Constitution: the opinion
of the people. Additionally—the key phrase—he
went for it, and that deserves great
respect. Well, that's already a bit of a lyrical
digression.
Did you hear that? The opinion of the people is an extra,
you see—they've already done everything there, but
the opinion of the people is additional, and therefore
deserves great respect. So,
this person, too, is just dancing this
dance full of lies,
of hypocrisy. And here, of course, I cannot
help but say that I feel
great, great satisfaction from the fact
that neither I nor the colleagues with whom I
worked and work, not for a single
second ever doubted that Ella
Pamfilova is such a corrupt,
disgusting woman. Ah, let's recall 2015,
when she had just replaced Churov, and
we went after her, because back then there were
elections in Barvikha, and we carried out this kind of
experiment, where we put forward an entire team
of people. We wanted to take over,
we said outright that we
would take over the municipality in Barvikha, and
see whose land this is and what kind of
rich people live there, and we would simply
establish real people's rule there. And either
Ella Pamfilova would ensure fair
elections there, and we had no doubt that we
would win, or they would let no one in, and
then we would find out whether she was a good head
of the Central Election Commission or not. And they,
naturally, began rigging things.
A huge scandal broke out. She
canceled the elections. And, my God, Dmitry
Gudkov, Vladimir Ryzhkov—not to
mention all those Vinokurovs, Baronovs,
everyone under the sun kept writing to us endlessly: "How
wrong you were about Ella Pamfilova,
she's so good, she canceled the elections,
she's an honest person." Ella Pamfilova
held those elections again six months later,
having completely falsified them, and then
continued down that path of falsification. And
the only person who has since
come up to me and said:
"Alexei, I admit that I was
wrong," was Dmitry Muratov from Novaya Gazeta,
who argued with me fiercely and wrote
entire columns saying, what do you mean, Navalny, don't
go after Pamfilova, because she and I
went somewhere together in our youth, and
she was so good, such a great
woman. And we all believed in her. Well, maybe
maybe once she really was a good,
great woman. Now she is absolutely
a corrupt, hypocritical thief. And there is no other
way to describe her. And I said this
back then. I am very glad that now, on this,
it seems to me, absolutely
everyone is convinced of it. And of course, I am waiting—not that
like Ramzan Kadyrov (head of Chechnya), I want, so to speak,
everyone to apologize to me for
defending Ella Pamfilova back then, but
simply—guys, if a person is in this
system, we cannot expect that he or she will be
even in the slightest degree
honest. And if, within this system, that person is also in a
responsible post like the CEC, we understand very well
that when they took that position, they
were already compromised up to here. They, uh,
have absolutely agreed to any monstrous
fraudulent manipulations that they
will have to carry out there. Alexei, why
do you think these actors, singers, and
other talented people are promoting these
amendments and the vote on them? Daniil asks
me. Money?
Actors, of course, are also very
dependent people. And I often
hear this from decent
actors, who say: "Why are you
going after Bezrukov or
someone like Vladimir Mashkov? You
have to understand that Vladimir Mashkov is
a slave, uh, and he works in a theater; officials
can throw him out at any moment.
He can lose his job, he can
lose everything. So, well, that's why he
does their dirty work." But I don't think that's
an excuse. After all, everyone else isn't
doing their dirty work. In the end, Vladimir
Mashkov probably has enough to eat. As I
understand it, he has an apartment in Miami,
he spends a lot of time in the
United States. He's doing very well. He is
very, very rich, but he takes part in
all of this because he wants even more
money, because he wants more
administrative leverage. Bezrukov
why do any of this at all? But he wants
to be given an extra pat on the
cheek, you know, to be let into places where
the powers that be are, and to be allowed
to have some tea somewhere and eat a sandwich from
their table. That’s how the allure
of officialdom works. That’s why they grovel, because
they want to be useful to these
villains. Ah, it turned out to be a great parody,
really great, a little crazy, of
Bezrukov. And it was made by the comedian Sobolev.
But first, let’s spend a few seconds on Bezrukov
and recall him, because his, uh, his
campaigning for the Constitution was the most
nauseating, because in all that
typical Bezrukov-style act of his, where he’s
either impersonating Yesenin (the Russian poet), or maybe even someone else,
let’s watch Bezrukov first.
The Russian language is one of the richest
languages in the world. No other language in the world has
such metaphors, comparisons, epithets, and imagery
as Russian. That is probably why it is so difficult
to translate the poetry of Alexander Pushkin
into a foreign language. And it is in this language that we
speak, feel, and declare our love.
That is why, it seems to me, the amendment
to the Constitution of the Russian
Federation on protecting and preserving the Russian
language is so important.
[applause]
[music]
And Sobolev recorded a crazy parody, but
a very funny one, about fishing floats and
prostitution. Let’s listen. And here,
it seems to me that, uh, there’s no need
to look for too much meaning in it. Just as there was no need
to look for too much meaning in what
Bezrukov was saying. But all of this here
is captured perfectly. Let’s listen.
Language is a means of communication and
mutual understanding,
and fish are basically rabbits, just without
paws, without ears, without a little tail, without fur,
without a skull—exactly the same.
There’s a saying: "To eat the fish and
eat the rod too." But I’m not Mashkov (likely referring to actor Vladimir Mashkov), I don’t do that
kind of crap.
Shnurov (Sergey Shnurov, musician) has a wonderful song, "The Fish
of My Dreams." I have a dream too.
I dream of shooting lasers from my eyes and
climbing trees using only
my legs. You climb to the top, let go, fall, and
it doesn’t hurt.
And I also dream of fishing with
prostitutes.
That is why fishing floats and
prostitution are so important. It concerns every one of
us.
[music]
Constitutional amendments, fishing floats, and
prostitution. And humiliating this vote
every single day is something each of us should do.
Humiliate it, expose it, denounce
it absolutely, I’m not afraid to say it,
denounce everyone who is taking part
in all of this. Marianna Maksimovskaya,
you remember, she used to be so good. She
was one of those journalists who was genuinely
honest and decent, and she left television
because, well, on television it had become
impossible
to remain honest and decent there. And what
do we see? Good Lord, now here she is in 2020,
not even for some election, but specifically
for the most outrageously fraudulent thing
that has been done in the entire history of the
Central Election Commission. You know,
the 2011 elections were fraud on this level,
right here.
The 2018 presidential election
was fraud on this level. But
the fake vote was
fraud somewhere out in space. And Marianna
Maksimovskaya, having arranged her hair like
Joan of Arc, came to the CEC and
simply made a complete fool of herself there. Was it really worth
it for you, Marianna Maksimovskaya,
to spend all that time building your
reputation only to destroy it and
trample it into the ground? Let’s watch. 70,000
people are watching us live as
Marianna Maksimovskaya humiliates herself, after
which, of course, she can no longer be considered
a decent person. I now present to your attention
an online resource
created specifically for the
nationwide vote on introducing
amendments to the Constitution. We also have
one additional
option for convenience and faster access to
information—a chatbot. We named
our chatbot Konstantin because it sounds similar
to our Constitution, yes, we chose that
name for our chatbot, Konstantin. Well,
at any rate, it’s easy to remember.
I think it’s important to add that, in general,
for easier access to this website,
special banners will be displayed online
with the option
to go directly from them to the website
Constitution 2020 RF. All you’ll need to do is
click on the banner. We very much
hope that creating this resource
will help people make an informed and
responsible choice.
A man who has been in power for 20 years
is resetting his term limits, and she comes out
and says: "Chatbot Konstantin, ha-ha,
what a great thing. We came up with this
brilliant creative concept. At our PR agency
we thought it up—hilarious. And then, of course, Ella
Pamfilova and all the other cronies
sitting around him are supposed to
clutch their stomachs laughing and say, "How
great—Constitution and chatbot Konstantin,
it’s simply impossible to even think about without disgust
watch." And after that she was still there,
presenting some absolutely disgusting
videos. I don’t even want to—maybe in the
next program I’ll show them to you—but it was simply
an absolutely nauseating spectacle. And on top of that,
we’re the ones paying for all of it. And what
I showed you—all that stuff with Moshkov
and Gazmanov—you have no doubt, do you, that it was
obviously campaigning in favor of
those amendments. In other words, it wasn’t just
“come out and vote,” it was campaigning for those
amendments. But we’re being told, we’re being
told that this is neutral advertising
funded from the state budget. And so this
whole gathering of parasites, from
Maksimovskaya to some Gazmanov,
sit there and grub around in budget money.
And then they look at us and say: "Guys,
there’ll be a chatbot named Konstantin, and you’ll
have fun with it, ask it
questions, and it’ll give you funny
answers." Big spit. I’m being asked:
"If Moshkov doesn’t know, then in 2005 Putin
handed over two of our islands to China."
That’s absolutely true. Absolutely true. All these
people saying, “we won’t give up a single inch of land”—
Putin handed over two islands,
huge ones, by the way, on the Amur River, to China.
That was a completely illegal
transfer of that supposedly sacred Russian
land over which Moshkov tears out his
beard and, well, scatters it
to the wind. People just
don’t pay attention. Well, money,
money. Vlad Chestyakov asks me:
"Alexei, please tell me, will the
coronavirus epidemic interfere with resetting
Putler’s term count to zero?" Well, it will only interfere
if the coronavirus kills the entire
population of the Russian Federation. For
Putin, this is an absolutely fundamental
task. He wants to,
I’ve said many times that Putin’s goal is
to remain president for life,
a tsar-emperor. But now this
tsar-emperor—and that’s no
exaggeration—wants to be, uh,
the ruler of Russia with extraordinary powers.
He can even dismiss judges. Powers like that
have literally never existed for
anyone. He really wants to be
Russia’s autocrat until death. And absolutely everything
is aimed at that. And yes, they’ve
postponed it for now because they’re simply
afraid. If they held that vote now, on April 22,
it would be—well, it would go down
in human history as
the greatest crime in the field of
epidemiology, because it would be
the largest planned operation to
infect people, especially the elderly,
with this very coronavirus.
They were afraid to do it, so they postponed it.
So, you watched, uh, you all watched
Putin’s addresses. It was a very, uh,
very highly rated program, a highly rated
speech. And really, this is
very important; this isn’t some
made-up crisis, it’s a crisis affecting all humanity
right now. And of course, we were expecting
some kind of, well, clearer response
from Putin. He’s supposed to be a tough guy. All
the others around him are tough guys too.
Judging by the number of medals they’ve
hung on themselves, they all fancy themselves as very
tough guys. What is Shoigu, some kind of
generalissimo or marshal?
Rotenberg, Hero of Labor—everyone got handed
various stars and honors, everything’s great for them. And
then a crisis situation hit us, and
we expected from them some genuinely,
well, at the very least sensible decisions.
After all, the coronavirus reached Russia
a little later, fortunately for us, and we
saw the mistakes that were made in
Italy, the right things that were done
in Singapore, first the mistakes and then
the very right things that were done
in South Korea, which
carried out an absolutely remarkable operation
to contain this
coronavirus. We see Germany’s very successful
experience, France’s less successful experience,
and the drama now unfolding
in the United States. So, in
principle, you can look at what was done
well and implement it.
And I saw a very apt tweet on this
topic—I don’t remember who wrote it, I won’t
pretend otherwise—saying that for the first time we’re seeing
as a measure
to fight the coronavirus, as a measure
to fight the coronavirus, the adoption of
higher taxes. That’s absolutely true.
Putin came out and said that, well, basically, we’ll
give you a week off. Let’s listen
to him.
Right now it is critically important to prevent the threat
of the rapid spread of the disease.
Therefore, I am declaring next week
non-working
with pay preserved.
That means the days off will last from Saturday,
March 28, through Sunday, April 5.
That, essentially, was the main measure
that was adopted. I mean, you’re supposed to
take measures to prevent
the disease from spreading, in order
to support the population. And as a
measure, what do they do? A week off.
A week off is not a quarantine. It
doesn’t require people to stay home. And even
if we assume that, uh, well,
our people will be sensible and won’t
go out for barbecues—and that’s already not the case. I
saw photos today from somewhere in
Sokolniki, I think, with some little shelters
for those barbecues, or from Serebryany
...yard. Everyone is busy, of course, everyone has gone
out for shashlik (grilled meat cooked outdoors). They grill, talk to
each other, drink wine. Naturally, people
will go to their dachas (country houses). So this is a strange
measure. Why did you do this? Well,
probably, yes. If, uh, you look at it overall,
then during the days off, fewer
people will leave home or take the metro. But
overall it's a strange measure, because
there is no quarantine and no support for either business or
ordinary people. Because why aren't people
staying home? Because they have no money. They
need money. It's simple. Why
are businesses suffering now? Small
businesses practically howled after Putin's address.
Well, because they're being told:
"Send all employees off for a week of
paid leave." And most likely
it will even be extended. Fine, you're
a restaurant or a café or, I don't know,
a workshop making whatever.
You have to send everyone home. And where are you
supposed to get the money? You're closed, you have
no revenue, nothing at all. You want to pay these
people because they are your
employees. You understand everything, you're in the same
situation yourself, but you have nothing. In
the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson made
the decision that all these small businesses,
bars, restaurants, little
shops, are being given £25,000. In
America, if your income is
under, I think, $70,000,
they're giving out $1,800 per person; in Canada
they're giving about $2,000. So
people are struggling, they need money, and they're being given
that money, because that is what
the state exists for. This is exactly
the kind of emergency that has happened. Give them
money. Here, basically nothing
is happening at all. Milov made
an excellent livestream today. Watch it today at 14,
it was at 16:00. He said something very
important. They didn't even declare
a force majeure situation. This is very important,
because, look, our office
is still operating; you just give us donations
and subscribe to the channel. So we
can pay the rent for this office. But
if we were ordinary lawyers, I
would send everyone home right now. I have no revenue.
I go to the landlord, and he tells me,
"Pay." I say, "Well, you understand,
I had to send everyone
home." He says, "Well,
there is no force majeure situation. If you
declare force majeure,
then you can stop paying utility and housing-service bills."
And the utility company can,
the management company can stop paying
the utility provider. In other words, at
least legally, for a time, we can
somehow pause these chains of payments. If you do not
declare force majeure, then
some people still demand
rent from others. You still cannot
go to court and say, "I didn't pay
because I couldn't, because there was
a force majeure situation." It may seem
like a legal technicality, but it is very
important. They didn't even do that.
They didn't declare a quarantine; in fact, nothing
is really happening. And of course,
there's also this super-measure that
just leaves you astonished. It's like
suddenly, you know, like that meme:
Nobody, absolutely nobody: Putin: let's tax
your bank deposits over
1 million rubles (about $12,500). What? Why? How is that
connected to coronavirus at all? How does it
help anyone right now? It will help the budget,
sure. But presumably there are other
ways to fill the budget right
now besides taxing citizens' savings?
Let's watch this statement by Putin,
29 seconds.
Second. In many countries around the world,
individuals' interest income from
bank deposits and investments in securities
is subject to income tax.
In our country, such income is not taxed.
I propose that for citizens whose total amount of
bank deposits or investments in
debt securities exceeds 1 million
rubles, a tax be introduced on interest
income at a rate of 13%.
And this was announced as a measure to combat
coronavirus. So here is the situation:
a quarantine is needed, and everyone is running around saying:
"Quarantine will kill our economy." Everyone
is getting poorer, everyone is losing money, nobody has
any money. And you say: "Well, let the rich
pay." Peskov said this—Peskov, the one with
that same Navka, who paid 8
million rubles to a person who did not take part
in her figure-skating, in that skating show
mentioned at the start of the broadcast—for those who have just
joined, you can go back and watch it.
74, because 1,000 people are already watching us
live. These are the people with
watches worth, what was it, 37 million rubles,
who spend 20 million rubles on a week-long
yacht trip. Peskov comes out and
says: "You know, this
taxation of those who have deposits
of 1 million rubles—this is a restoration of
fairness."
And there are two things here. First,
think about this: how bad things are in
our country—how dreadful it is—that the people considered rich,
the ones who are supposed to be taxed,
are those who have $12,500
to their name. And they themselves said that this
would affect 1% of people. So it turns out that
Russia, which for 20 years sold oil
and gas for trillions of dollars, has
only 1% of the population with
$12,500.
dollars. Well, first of all, this is, well, that
is, basically, well, insane. It
means total collapse. If, if you
have governed the country for 20 years in such a way that here
there is no one—only 1% of people have
even 1 million rubles (about 10,800 USD), then resign
immediately, the sooner the better. You can’t do
anything. But in reality, this is just
a way of increasing income
tax, because of course 1 million rubles
is something a large number of people have. Well,
someone sold an apartment, some
pensioner saved up for a lifetime. Those are
funeral savings, spread across accounts,
and notice, they did it very
cunningly. They, uh, they add up all
the accounts. You won’t be able to say, if you had
1.5 million rubles (about 16,200 USD), you can’t split it into 500
here, 500 there, and 500 there. Nothing
of the sort. Through a special system, they’ll
count everything and say you have 1.5 million
rubles. And on those extra 500,000
we will levy a tax on
your interest income.
Why do this now? If you want to
do it, let’s discuss it. Because
this is not, not, not a tax on the rich.
These are obviously not rich people; it’s a tax
on those who earn at least something in
our impoverished country. You want to do that?
Fine, then let’s discuss it. Why the hell does this need to
happen now? Like Sberbank is now
introducing a fee on transfers over 50,000
rubles (about 540 USD). People have no money. They’re being forced
to stay home. If you have some
relative stuck somewhere, and they
text you, “Hello, Kolya,” or write or
call and say, “Please send me
60,000 rubles (about 650 USD), because I’ve ended up in
this situation and I have nothing to feed
my family with.” You go and have to pay
this fee to Sberbank. Why do this
now, when things are bad for absolutely everyone?
It’s astonishing, staggering, and, and
unthinkable. Russia has a police
state. It is a police
state. Not as efficient a
police state as China,
which simply put entire cities under lockdown
right away and shut everyone in. But we
also have a police state. And what of it?
Apparently, we can impose a lockdown.
But they don’t impose one, and instead they keep
coming up with measures to take more money
from people. From these poor, miserable people. I
saw a photo of a woman. She was standing there with
a sign: “I’ll stay home, but only if you
feed my family. Give this woman
money.” Because really,
she has no chance of staying home. How
can you stay home if your business
will shut down, if you have no salary, and
of course no business owner can
keep paying that salary? Right now everyone has been
told: “Well, send everyone on leave,
but keep paying their wages.” Where are they
supposed to get the money if they’re shut down? Well,
nobody has it, they just
Putin seems to assume that somehow
they’ll muddle through somehow.
I talked about this when we were here with you
discussing that astonishing gem about
how the middle class consists of people with
a salary of 17,000
rubles (about 185 USD). That shows a loss of
touch with reality, a fundamentally distorted
sense of aim. Neither Putin nor the others
basically understand anymore how life
actually works. There are just some people out there,
running around, some kind of, you know, some
vagrants or whatever. Maybe they get 17,000 rubles,
maybe 700—who the hell knows,
we don’t. Well, 17,000 is the middle class.
Then, I suppose, a million means you’re very
rich. Let’s tax them heavily.
These people have nothing, and now you’re trying
to take something from them. The whole world
is announcing support measures for
businesses, saying they’ll give something. They gave
nothing at all. There are some measures
that have been announced, and maybe you can
get tax deductions or something
else. But for all of that, you have to
run around, bring paperwork, prove things,
and after some time they’ll allow you
not to do something or other. Well, right now that’s
supposed to be a good measure, right? They deferred all
these mortgage loans, but they deferred them
only for a while. Because look, for people,
this will all end eventually, and then
people will be told: “All right, folks,
now you start paying your loans again.” But all that
time, people weren’t earning anything. They
still have nothing. They’ve
used up what they had and gone into debt. Well,
maybe not huge debts. But if we want
the country to stay at home, and we
do want the country to stay at home,
then give money to these people and give money
to these businesses. Because when there was
the 2008 crisis, we spent half of the National Welfare Fund
(Russia’s sovereign reserve fund), half
of all reserves, simply
handing it out to oligarchs. And that was apparently fine.
And now no one even remembers it,
no one worries about it. All that happened was
our billionaires were turned into even
richer billionaires. Now, when
Nabiullina says: “Maybe, like in
the United States, or in the United Kingdom, or in
Canada, we should give people a little money.” They
say: “Good Lord, have you lost your mind?
Who does such terrible, terrible
populist things as giving these people
10,000 rubles (about 110 USD)? What for? So that
they can buy food? That’s an absurd idea.
But why would they need to buy food? says
Elvira Nabiullina. I come home,
I say to my housekeeper, “Glasha, bring
the food to the table.” And Glasha brings the food
to the table for us. And that’s why I don’t understand why these people can’t
do exactly the same thing. It’s just
some truly gigantic
mockery, what’s happening. And I,
well, still, uh, hope that, uh,
the situation with the coronavirus won’t deteriorate too sharply
although everything we’ve seen
so far points to exactly that. But if
it does get worse, then I’d like
them at least to take some
very clear measures and say which
model we’re following. We can say that,
well, basically, like in Belarus,
there is no coronavirus, we
don’t care. We’ll just wait until
everyone over 80 here
dies, and we’ll pretend that nothing
is happening. Or else we actually go
down the path of quarantine. It looks like they are going
down the path of quarantine. Well then, let’s go
with quarantine and pay people. But they’re not doing that.
That shows that the authorities
are pointless. They put on this image of being
tough and formidable, but they can’t do
even the most basic
things. But what they can do,
good Lord, is once again stage a PR stunt
over all this nonsense with
Italy—it’s just impossible to watch
this. I mean, in principle I
understand the political idea. Things in Italy are
very bad. And many people around the
world are making some kind of symbolic
gesture of support for Italy, sending something
some masks, for example, or simply
saying, “Italian friends, stay strong.”
We should do that. And you can, well, in
principle, it seems to me—uh, I know that
many people criticize me for this position.
It seems pretty absurd to me when
we have sheer poverty here and doctors have no masks,
nothing at all. And then we go and send nine
planes of something to Italy. That’s
just a slap in the face to our own citizens. I mean,
these are the same kinds of doctors from
the regions. They look at the television, their
mouths hanging open, and the TV tells them:
“You know, we sent nine
planes, and what did we get in return?”
I mean, what political
effect was there? That video they, good Lord,
ran on every channel about the Italian
old man who took down the EU flag
and pulled out a Russian flag. All
the Kremlin Telegram channels were flooded, all
the TV channels too—with that video of the old man. That’s what we got
for sending nine
planes there. Let’s watch that video, since it’s
so, uh, dear to the Kremlin.
indeed
Quite possibly, the man with the flag is a very
good person, and he did it sincerely.
He may have thought that
the European Union had abandoned them there, while Russia
sent nine planes and helped them.
By now, the newspaper *La Stampa* has already published
an article saying that almost everything we sent
there was basically unusable.
We didn’t send any virologists there
at all. Well, that’s more or less
understandable. What we sent there were
vehicles that disinfect asphalt. And
here, unfortunately, to our great regret,
we don’t have any tests, nothing real.
Why is it written on my cup—I wanted to write on it
14,500 rubles. Instead I wrote
afterward: “May God protect you.” 14,500 rubles.
That is the salary a virologist receives
in Novosibirsk. We have the main, uh,
the main institution that is, basically,
supposed to come up with a vaccine for us
that will defeat the coronavirus. I went onto
the job listings page of this, uh, wonderful
institute. They really do pay people there
14,500
rubles to a research associate specifically in the
virology department. So it’s obvious that, well,
we can’t do anything when we spend
this kind of money on science. And we cannot
actually, unfortunately, to our great regret,
give absolutely anything either to Italy, or to Stavropol Krai (a federal region of Russia),
or to Uryupinsk (a small Russian town),
nothing at all. And yet, good Lord, they whipped up so much pomp
around this Italy story. And here
it says: “May God protect us, God protects
our land.” Because the fuller, more genuine
quote is from State Duma deputy
Svetlana Khorkina of United Russia. In my
view, everything that happened is because
the Olympics were canceled too, right? And why
was it necessary to insult Russia, including
our athletes? You shouldn’t do that; it’s not for nothing
that our anthem says that our
land is protected by God. Right now
this deadly filth is spreading all over the world,
but there was no need to stage these
political distortions,”
Svetlana Khorkina tells us,
a State Duma deputy. And you look at that and
think: well, Svetlana Khorkina is great.
She jumps well and runs well and
does all sorts of things. And we’re proud of her
when she’s an Olympic champion. But,
good Lord, athletes come in all kinds.
Like ordinary people—like all people—they
can be smart or stupid. Why is it that in the State Duma
only the stupidest people end up there? I mean,
really, why did I connect this
to Italy in my segment?
Because, uh, in principle,
our authorities lie about everything and twist
everything around. Even in situations like this, uh,
truly difficult ones, they cannot
help putting on some kind of clown show
with Italy, telling everyone that in Europe
things are absolutely terrible. And we are riding at full
seriously, saying, we're going to save
Europe. And somewhere nearby stands Khorkina (Svetlana Khorkina, a former Russian gymnast and politician),
spouting some nonsense about how our land
is protected by God. And that this coronavirus was sent by God
because people were offending our
athletes. Be quiet. Just be quiet. Svetlana
Khorkina, please go and do
the uneven bars, or whatever it is you're supposed to be doing
instead. Jump around with a sword. You do not
need to be in the State Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament),
because you simply cannot
speak competently about things
that have at least some
logical connection to each other. But they
really are sitting there, and they are passing
laws for us, and those are our laws, and now
they are passing ones under which Putin
will reset his presidential terms to zero. It's just
completely, well, just monstrously
unbearable. And it's especially unbearable
to watch all of this, really, during
the coronavirus crisis. And if
you watched Sobyanin (Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin) meeting with
Putin on the eve of Putin's address, you could
see it written all over his face that yes, he was lying,
of course he was lying, but he understood everything.
Before we watch
Sobyanin, let's take a look at Moscow's chief
public health doctor, who quite
recently came to the Moscow
City Duma, explaining how everything
was great, absolutely excellent, nothing to worry about, everything
would be fine, we had enough ventilators,
let's listen.
But nevertheless, we have strengthened control over
flights from Thailand, and in total we have
screened 150,000 passengers.
And
we have no registered cases. If
we identify sick
passengers, we have an established protocol
under which we immediately send them to the airport's medical
station. After that, we decide
whether to hospitalize them or not. That
is, this is a well-established system. I won't even
talk to you about it from here right now.
So, we have identified all routes of entry
and exit into the city involving citizens of the People's Republic of China.
We have placed under special
control all entry points, not only
airports and railway stations,
but also, naturally, bus connections. So
that area has also been fully worked out.
It's just that we are not in a position to
talk about this openly from the podium, but you
should simply know that every point,
every group, if it raises
concerns among our colleagues, they
pass the information on to us, and we provide
follow-up monitoring.
Together with the Health Department, we carried out
an audit of all existing
resources for disinfection measures,
protective equipment control,
transport, medical
masks, oxygenation equipment — that is,
our ECMO machines. I want to tell you right away
that as of today
there are absolutely no complications in the city
at all.
That was Moscow's chief public health doctor,
who told us: "Everything
was in place, everything was wonderful, folks. I won't even
tell you about it from this podium. Just
believe us, just trust
the professionals," as they always
say. You know, always in that
slightly condescending way, as if it's all just
panic, some kind of fuss, some articles,
whatever those idiots are writing in their
Twitter and Telegram channels. Just
believe us, guys. Every single
point is under control. Everything is just fine.
Citizens of the People's Republic of China — uh,
everyone was absolutely under control already at that
time. And everyone was saying:
"Guys, this is going to be a huge problem." They lied
and they keep lying. About the number
of people being tested — it's just
the lying has reached such a scale that at
that meeting, where Sobyanin, Putin,
and Golikova (Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova) were sitting — watch this clip now —
Sobyanin is already saying outright that
we have a huge number of untested
people. And Golikova, as you'll hear there,
says: "No, we have checked
190,000 of them. Let's listen."
We have now introduced... Well, thank you very much.
We supported measures for
those over sixty-five, who are now
the risk group. If before we considered those who
came from abroad — and 1 million of them arrived
in Russia over the last 10 days.
And we have to make them stay home
for a while. That's one story. But
today the real risk group emerging is
older people aged 65 and over. Especially,
yes, we have
put them under quarantine. Starting Thursday,
they are staying, and will all stay, at home. Even
those over 65 who are still working
will move to a different режим. I think we need
to adopt a similar measure
and recommend it to those places where
there is a fairly serious trend. We have
basically created an identical system. This needs to be done in
St. Petersburg too. It needs to be done in all
cities with populations over 1 million as well,
because our main
problem now will be with them: they
will be lying in intensive care
beds. They have the most severe course of
the disease. And this peak, when
they all start coming into our hospital system,
needs to be flattened as much as possible,
so that it happens gradually. Otherwise
the system simply will not cope with them. The volume
of testing is very low, and the real
and no one in the world knows the real picture.
To test
it is objectively like that there. I’m not saying
whether that’s good or bad, it is objectively like that everywhere,
but we need to understand that if 6,000 people arrived in Primorsky Krai
(a region in Russia’s Far East) who had been abroad
in infected areas, that is still
a problem, a big problem. And sooner
or later, that problem will surface.
You see, when they’re actually in
some real meeting, all this
empty bravado is gone. Besides,
Sobyanin is someone who
has now really come face to face with this. You
know that I, uh, am definitely not someone
who likes praising Sergei
Semyonovich (Sergei Sobyanin), but at least we
can see that he is in a situation
where he more or less understands the real
picture. And most importantly, he understands
that he will be the one left holding the bag if everything
goes badly—and hopefully it won’t
go badly. But if it does, and for now, unfortunately,
the graph shows that everything
is moving in that direction, Sobyanin will be
the one blamed. And those kinds of attitudes
are already gone. But at the same time, for them everything is split into this:
“We’re saving Italy, everything here is
great, Europe is dying.” But
here he understands. And he says that
there is no testing. It’s all a gigantic
lie. And the main crime that
the authorities are committing now against their own
people, and against themselves, because
they will have to deal with the consequences, is
that they lie endlessly
about testing. They made up some
190,000 people who supposedly
have been tested. But even now, if you
want to get tested, you won’t be able to.
A doctor will only send you for one if you have
really severe symptoms. Even
if you came from abroad, no one will
send you for testing. And
when they do send you, they’ll take the test and
after a few days it’s unclear whether
they’ll tell you the result or not. By now
the entire internet is full of stories
from people who tried to get
tested. 81,000 people are watching us
live. That’s a record. Ah, well,
you’d almost want to say thank you
to the coronavirus, but I’m not going to say
thank you to the coronavirus. Uh, all of you are in
self-isolation and watching the broadcast.
That’s great. 81,000 people are watching us.
Sergei Dichenko asks: “Why is Putin
in such a hurry? All his actions are unreasonably
hasty.” No, actually, unfortunately,
their actions in this situation
are unreasonably slow, because their
idea is that later on,
after some time, if by some miracle
they dodge it, they can say: “Well, you see,
Europe over there was, as usual, a complete
disaster. In Italy everyone was dying. Italy
only survived at all because
our military virologists went there. And
the EU didn’t help them. We
sent our ordinary military guys,
and they saved the Italians. And here
it’s like God simply protected our land,
as Svetlana Khorkina (Russian Olympic gymnast and public figure) said.
So everything turned out more or less normally
for us. Therefore, let Putin remain
forever. That is, of course, their idea—
to make it look as if things were better here than in
the rest of the world. But looking at what
is happening in Russian hospitals, it very much
looks like things will be worse here. And this
lie about the number of people tested will
backfire badly. And this lie is, well,
being exposed by absolutely everyone. I
specifically asked for a short
one-minute video for our program
from Mark Shirchenko, a local council deputy from the city of Dubna.
This is a city where physicists and scientists live.
And those scientists travel
constantly all over the world. So, in
theory, if testing is being carried out across the whole country,
then a lot of people there should simply
be getting these tests. What is actually
happening in reality? Let’s listen. Mark Shirchenko.
Hello everyone. My name is Mark Shirchenko. I
live in Dubna, a town outside Moscow. And,
I am a deputy of the local city
council and an employee of the Joint
Institute for Nuclear Research. Yesterday
I read the wonderful news that
our—what is she again—Deputy Prime Minister
Golikova had counted nearly 200,000 tests
performed for coronavirus. That
rather astonished me. Naturally, I can’t speak for all of Russia,
but
I can speak specifically about Dubna. And for
context, Dubna has a population of 75,000,
with nearly 5,000 employees at this
international institute, many of whom
travel abroad, mainly to
Europe and to China. And this
happens all the time. Accordingly,
during the entire period of this
epidemic, 54 tests have been done here.
Just 54. So there can be no talk of
anything like 200,000. Even by simply multiplying by
Russia’s population, the numbers don’t add up. In
my replies, though, a whole
sect of math lovers immediately showed up, saying:
“That’s only half as much
as Golikova promised.” Come on, do you
really think that in a city with
a population that is constantly traveling on
business trips abroad, the ratio should be the same as in
some other city—say, if you take
my native Voronezh—the proportion should be identical?
So, well, I don’t believe these figures
at all. I think that
the problem is precisely that there are not enough tests.
enough. For example, here tests are being done
only for those who have returned from abroad and
show signs of illness, and for those
who are admitted with serious ARVI (acute respiratory viral infection) complications and
pneumonia to hospitals. Those are,
essentially, the categories that,
as I understand it, are being tested here.
All the other categories
are simply put under quarantine, and a fairly
basic one at that.
And if you ask me why they are lying
about this testing, I genuinely do not
understand. I mean, this lie is going to
become more and more obvious
as they keep
increasing the supposedly
tested count. If right now they are lying
about 200,000 people having been tested,
then after a while they will have to lie about
250,000 people. And at the same time
there is a growing wave of people who tried
to get tested. And these people
were unable to do so. And they will be posting on
VKontakte, Facebook, telling you,
their friends, their acquaintances, that it is impossible to get
any tests done. And even when you do
manage to take one, getting the result of that test
is impossible too. And it is unclear
there are no tests in Russia at all. And in
fact, our authorities are carefully
making sure that these
rapid tests do not enter the country in large numbers,
the kind they have now learned to make in
Israel, South Korea, and China. They are already
making tests there that can show results in 2
hours or even less
than that. None of that exists here.
There is plenty of money in the country, at least
enough that these tests could have been
brought here. But they are not bringing them in. Why
do they not want to identify the true number of cases? I mean,
I mean,
well, after all, no one is
accusing Putin of bringing
the coronavirus to Russia. And no one is accusing Sobyanin (the mayor of Moscow) either.
Just tell it like it is.
Say: yes, this is how it turned out. All over
the world things are bad. And here right now we do not have
tests, there are this many infected people,
but they lie. They say that in
Russia the number of cases is lower than
in Luxembourg. Just look at the size of
Russia and the size of Luxembourg. You can,
of course, say that in Luxembourg
the population is more mobile, it is in Europe,
whereas Russia is more remote.
Russia is remote, of course, but in Moscow and
in other major cities there are hundreds
of thousands of people who also travel
abroad, and they bring this, this
virus back here. And of course there is far
more of it. That is not a reason to panic, but
why lie about it? Well, because they
simply always lie. They lie and stage
some kind of PR stunts. Anatoly Dast asks me:
"8,000 people are watching us live.
When will you, how would you
comment on Putin's yellow protective suit
?" Well, let me
comment on Putin's yellow protective suit
now. This is, of course, a typical
example of how this entire government
does everything for television. They sat there
thinking not about how to fight
the coronavirus, but about what kind of, you know,
picture they should present.
And the picture they came up with was the same kind
they always come up with,
more or less the same thing. One moment Putin is riding
a horse, the next he is flying with some
Siberian cranes, then he is
well, flying a plane, diving down and
coming back up with amphorae. And now
let us put him in some kind of yellow
suit and send him to a hospital where
patients with
coronavirus are being treated. And this is the main,
indeed essentially the only
specialized hospital. Why the hell go there,
is beyond me. And from the standpoint of
the risk of getting sick, the president should not expose
himself to such danger. And from the standpoint of
the fact that, well, you understand, in our
country, where the president's motorcade is 8 km long
(about 5 miles), for him to go anywhere simply
paralyzes the work of an institution for
several hours. Why the hell do you need
to go to a hospital? Just call in those
doctors; if you need a photo op, put on
a white coat and hold some kind of meeting.
But no, it was absolutely necessary
to go to that very hospital. So I think
this was, of course, simply
some monumental stupidity. But there was also
a rather amusing
situation involving Dr. Dmitry
Gorkaviy, who, probably, whom
I did not treat entirely fairly when I
went after him; he got caught in the crossfire. And so I wanted
to explain in more detail
so that no one is left with the impression that
I unfairly accused the man.
This whole PR stunt was devised
so that Putin would go there. And then all over
television they said that
Putin was the only person who
visited this dangerous
medical facility where he could have turned into
a zombie. And Ksenia Sobchak spoke very well
about this on Channel One (Russia's main state TV channel).
I will stay on screen now so that
Channel One does not block us, and you
watch Ksenia Sobchak.
Our president is the only one among
European leaders who has visited
a clinic where people with
suspected coronavirus are being treated. Today he
visited the hospital in Kommunarka (a district of Moscow). Here are these
footage.
But our film crew also
went there.
This footage here—it’s a pity she didn’t say whether it was,
some kind of sacred footage or just
remarkable footage. I saw some kind of
after that there was a joke that Putin was
the only one of the European leaders
who visited the hospital in Kommunarka (a settlement outside Moscow).
Ah, well, it was obviously a PR stunt. And in
this PR operation there was a man involved,
Dmitry Gorkavi, who
ended up in the hospital. Frankly,
it looked rather suspicious. I
saw a post by one of the doctors saying that
a man had ended up in the hospital with,
pneumonia, severe
pneumonia, and at the same time had developed
some kind of hyperactivity. He started running
Telegram channels. On Telegram he began
talking about what a great hospital it was,
how tasty the food was there. He photographed
the food, posted it, and, well, discussed
how wonderful everything was in this
hospital. Then Putin comes to this hospital,
meets with this Dmitry
Gorkavi, and has some kind of conversation. After that
Dmitry Gorkavi, despite his
pneumonia, gives interviews to
pretty much every channel—Channel One, Channel Two,
Channel Twenty-Seven. And generally appears
everywhere, telling the same story, and everywhere
the headlines come out: how a hospital patient
described meeting Putin—as if,
so to speak, Young Pioneers had met Grandpa
Lenin (a Soviet-era propaganda-style comparison). And then the next day, or
maybe even that same day, it turned out that
Dmitry had tested negative for
coronavirus. And apparently he had almost
recovered, and I saw a sarcastic post
from one of the doctors, reposted it, and
wrote that, uh, well, it looked like they had even
used a fake patient. But I
got in touch with people—I didn’t speak to
Dmitry himself, but several doctors wrote to me
that, well, maybe because he turned out to be a doctor too.
This Dmitry Gorkavi, he
turned out to be a doctor. And, naturally,
everyone started writing: "Well, this is just
some absolute fake fabrication." But,
apparently Dmitry really was
being treated there for pneumonia.
Probably, simply in order to
help his colleagues in the profession, he
approached
Putin’s visit with a bit too much enthusiasm and made those cheerful
reports. But nevertheless, he
is certainly not a fake
patient. He is there with
pneumonia. And so I offer my apologies
to Dmitry and to everyone who, so to speak,
after reading my tweet, uh, thought badly
of him. Uh, and of course a separate apology
for the fact that people wrote him
a lot of rather unpleasant things
in the comments, uh, under his
various posts. But overall, of course,
this whole situation also shows that
they don’t want to do anything; they’re simply
producing some kind of PR product. But as for any
real, uh, product of fighting the
epidemic, they don’t understand it, they don’t know how,
there is no strategy. And that is where
all these rumors come from. At the beginning I
was answering the question of whether they would
send troops into Moscow, whether there would be
a state of emergency, whether there would be
a quarantine. All of this is genuinely very
unclear and uncertain. And in his address Putin
should have said something straightforward,
namely: you know,
we are now introducing a non-working
week, but if things get worse, we will impose
a quarantine, so be prepared that we will not
let you leave your apartments. For some reason he
didn’t say that. And that simply
just
uh
and that shows that they simply
really don’t know what to do. But out of
inertia, out of habit, they still
keep on lying and producing
these kinds of staged reports with those very
yellow suits, reports with
fishermen, like the reports they did with everyone
else. And all of this, all of this, all of this
will lead,
unfortunately, to a bad situation,
because the reality is that, especially if we
move away from Moscow somewhere, even to
some nearby part of European
Russia, things are very, very bad. If in fact
we end up with not hundreds of
thousands of infections, as in Europe, and
even if the mortality rate—we hope
it will be very low—and
even if it mostly affects only
very elderly people. But if in Europe
it is already difficult to save these elderly people, and there
you really very often have to face
a choice: they bring you
a thirty-year-old and an eighty-year-old, and
you start treating the, uh,
thirty-year-old, while the eighty-year-old
is essentially written off. A tragedy, an enormous
human tragedy. You understand that
the person will die because you simply
do not have a
ventilator. In
Europe everything is very difficult. Here, in
principle, not a damn thing works in
healthcare. And one of the
unfolding
catastrophes happening before our eyes,
which, unfortunately, not many
people are paying attention to, is the complete
lack of protective equipment for medical staff. And
Italy’s mistake was that
From the very beginning, they did not deal with protective equipment
for medical workers, and doctors turned into
people who infected everyone around them.
They infected elderly people in all
the hospitals, because at that time
they did not understand that a doctor, of course,
will save everyone, but an infected doctor without
protective equipment is simply a mechanism
for infecting everyone around them. And today on
Twitter I just logged in and saw a video from a doctor
from Vladimir Region. Let's watch.
Hello, dear friends, respected
colleagues. I am ready to go out to a coronavirus
hotspot. This is what the
suit looks like. True, I don't have gloves, but
I will put them on later, when I go in to see the child.
They get in the way. This suit was issued for only 4
days. There are no more suits left at the outpatient clinic.
There are no masks.
No disposable spatulas—there is nothing at all.
They are forcing us to work.
Mr. Putin promised a bonus payment, but they said:
"No, on top of that,
for January and February they cut our
salary by 5%."
This is Aleksandrovsky District,
Vladimir Region, the town of Strunino.
That's all, bye. I'm off.
This is a town, not a village; this is not a
feldsher-midwife station (a small rural medical post), this is a
hospital in a town, and there is nothing there. In fact,
across the whole country there is an absolutely
colossal, simply terrible,
monstrous situation. And instead of
admitting it and saying that,
guys, we have a major problem right now,
we cannot buy ventilators for Russia right now,
even though we could, we have
enough money, well, at least let us
buy protective equipment for medical workers. But they,
do not buy it, and instead lie that this
protective equipment exists. Moreover, both
the management and the Ministry of
Health are forcing chief
doctors to lie about it. Yesterday I posted, uh,
a letter that was sent to the Doctors' Alliance union
by a doctor from the town of Kalach
on the Don, in Volgograd Region. Well, and
she writes, and accordingly the Doctors' Alliance
forwarded it to me: look at what
is happening. And she writes: guys, we
have nothing in the hospital. We have three
machines, one of which is broken. We
have no antiseptics. They are making us sew
gauze masks by hand ourselves, and then
wash them. I post this, and it,
naturally, spread widely. This morning
they sent me a screenshot: some chief
doctor at that hospital was writing to a nurse,
not saying, you know, how great you are,
Alexandra, for writing all this,
because now
the Volgograd regional government
is finally buying us masks and protective
equipment. No. Instead, he writes to her: "Why did you
do this? See you in court, I'll fire
you." And then starts intimidating her. Well,
simply
why? You really do have nothing.
Why try to hide it? Because
if in the town of Kalach five
elderly people with this coronavirus
just five elderly people will
need artificial lung ventilation
and they have three ventilators, one of
which is broken, then that means two can be
saved and three will die. And the doctors who
work at the hospital in the town of Kalach
on the Don are in fact
going to be sources of infection,
because without protective equipment they will infect
everyone around them. So why are you
covering all this up? Why are you hiding all this? This is
simply a catastrophe. When
people start dying later, what are you going to
say? You will just write it all off.
Because when one person dies, it is
a tragedy. When 1,000 people die,
that is already just statistics. Well, that is probably
the calculation. I asked
the union to contact this doctor. Such a
brave woman. She did not give in to
pressure from this chief doctor and even
recorded a one-minute video about
what is happening there.
Friends, my name is Tatyana. I am an
anesthesiologist-resuscitation specialist.
I work at the Central District Hospital. I am also a Zemsky Doctor (a state program for doctors working in rural areas).
I have been working here for a year now. This is
Volgograd Region, a small town.
Medical workers are not being provided with
personal protective equipment, because
we do not have anti-plague suits, we
do not have N95 or FFP respirators, we
do not have special
face shields, we do not have goggles, we do not have skin
antiseptic, we do not have
reagents. The chief doctor issued, issued
a local order stating
that gauze masks must be sewn.
The management claims, reports at
every doctors' conference, that we
have all personal protective equipment,
that we are fully supplied, that everything will be
fine, that we are ready for anything. All of this
is a lie. We are not ready, we have
nothing. And we are not provided with any
personal protective equipment.
And if a patient like that actually
comes in and I have to go up to
them in the admissions department—yes, if they are
serious, they will call me, and I will go
wearing nothing but this little mask.
An amazing, brave doctor, whom I
called Alexandra, but in fact she is
Tatyana. Glory to decent, honest
doctors who are helping right now,
who are working and are not afraid to speak about
problems. And of course, shame on this
chief doctor, who right now,
you understand, there’s an epidemic raging, and yet his
one task is to make sure no one sees
that Navalny wrote on Twitter
that they don’t have this skin,
God, they don’t have antiseptic, damn it.
But they’re trying to hush this situation up. And,
uh, right now, of course, each of us simply
as a top-priority and genuinely
very cheap measure. But this is practically
nothing in terms of the country’s budget,
in terms of the healthcare budget,
to provide all doctors, nurses,
orderlies with protective equipment—it costs
next to nothing. But they’ll do it only
if there is pressure. But there is no pressure; we
only we, together with you, can
create it. And this is something we need to work on
every day. As I wrap up the program, I want
to show you a very, very horrible,
horrible, disgusting photograph. And
if you think I’m about to show you zombies
created by the coronavirus, well,
it’s even worse than that. Please show this
photograph. This is the Boyarsky father and son. Uh,
Mikhail Boyarsky, a wonderful Soviet
actor. And who now is also
put the photo back, keep it up, let
people look at it. 85,000 people are watching it live.
They’re looking at this awful photograph.
Mikhail Boyarsky is a wonderful actor, but
now, of course, he is an utterly bought-and-paid-for
toady, singing some kind of
hosanna to Putin. And standing next to him is a completely
vile little creature. This is his son Sergei
Boyarsky, who, unlike Mikhail
Boyarsky, means absolutely nothing to us. He
didn’t star in *The Three Musketeers*. And this
crook, who sits in the State Duma
as a deputy from United Russia, and these two
hypocrites are standing there with signs saying: "Thank you
doctors." Here’s one: a Putin campaign surrogate.
The other is a State Duma deputy
who votes on the budget. Because of
both of them, Tatyana from the town of Kalach-on-Don
does not have hand sanitizer and does not
have a proper mask. She has to
make one herself, sew it herself—in the 21st century, in 2020, she herself
has to sew a gauze mask. So I have
therefore, uh, a proposal for the Boyarsky
family, such a powerful, well-connected
family, one that, well, comes from that old
St. Petersburg clique—they lived in the same building as
Sobchak (Anatoly Sobchak, former mayor of St. Petersburg), they socialized with Putin.
Please, dear Boyarskys, make sure
that instead of standing there with your
hypocritical signs saying, "Thank you, doctors,"
you make it so that at least in the hospital
of the town of Kalach-on-Don
in Volgograd Region there finally appear
basic protective equipment
for doctors. Once you do that, then
you will have the moral right to stand there with
some signs, thanking
someone, or saying anything at all
in public, because right now you are
part of the authorities, and you bear
responsibility for everything that is happening.
Thank you very much to everyone who watched. It was
great being with you. See you
next Thursday, if the coronavirus lets us
do it. Bye.
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