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Hello everyone, good evening. It's 8:00 p.m. in Moscow.

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You're watching the live broadcast of *Russia of the Future*.

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And I'm Alexei Navalny, or

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the citizen who supposedly proposed poisoning

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migrants with insecticide powder, as I was called by

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the magnificent Vladimir Solovyov. Let's

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start by enjoying this moment right away. Notice

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how much Americans love a man

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who built his election campaign

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in Russia, at the beginning, on the fact that he was

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a certified nationalist and proposed

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poisoning migrants with insecticide powder. Who is that? That is...

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They fought, but it was all so new. I don't consider

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myself... whoever can't be shot through...

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But amazingly, he has nothing

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No, well, he was a fervent supporter of the Russian March

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(an annual Russian nationalist rally), while those who have no journalistic integrity...

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This is not journalism—it's a disgrace.

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Well, isn't it wonderful? And people are just

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clucking away: Navalny, Navalny,

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Navalny. By the way, it's very funny—

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today on his radio show, Vladimir

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Solovyov, answering the question of why he needs

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so many of those Italian villas, said an

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absolutely astonishing thing. He explained

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it by saying that his family is large, and it's cheaper

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to buy houses in Italy than to buy

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tickets, because with tickets and hotels

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you'd spend a lot of money. I'm not joking—

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he really said that, and it's

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astonishing. What marvelous people—how much

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they must think everyone is an idiot. But he thought,

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well, these [__] have never traveled anywhere, they

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have never stayed in hotels, they don't understand, and

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you can tell them anything. Sure,

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of course I bought one villa, then a second villa,

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but you know—I saved on hotels.

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Wonderful, wonderful Vladimir Solovyov.

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I'll start with something completely concrete.

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I like concrete things, concrete matters,

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specific people.

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One of those specific people is my broadcast neighbor,

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who was already on air today—

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Vladimir Milov announced that he is

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running for the Moscow City Duma, and I

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strongly support that, because

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we've had this somewhat theoretical

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conversation about the elections that will take place in

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September in nearly 20 regions, including

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the biggest ones—in Moscow and St. Petersburg—and this is

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something completely concrete, because

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Smart Voting—yes, we want to inflict

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damage on United Russia,

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we will damage United Russia, but we'd like

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it not to be just emotions. Of course, we're going after

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United Russia, but we're supporting some

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decent people too. So I very much

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welcome the fact that nominations have finally

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started. Milov has put himself forward; he

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will run in the Konkovo and Tyoply Stan districts

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(districts in Moscow). I urge everyone to take part in the campaign,

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because, because I know him. You

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watch his broadcasts—he has many viewers,

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more than 100,000 views now on

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each stream. He helped a lot during the time of the

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election campaign. Here you can see his

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website, and as a rule we know for sure that

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this is a person who will go there and, on our behalf, in the end

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—this is a kind of shared

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public agreement between us—we will support him.

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We're saying to Volodya: come on, we'll

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support you, yes, please—go ahead and hit United

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Russia hard. And he will. And if we

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elect him, if we make the effort, then he will continue

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to hit back. He won't peck timidly, he won't

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be one of those quiet deputies. He will

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fight the Moscow mafia, he will

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fight the bureaucrats. He understands

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finance extremely well. So, just a little

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promotion for Milov—go and

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watch any of his broadcasts. So I very much

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support him, and I'm waiting for other candidates too. And all

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of us are waiting, right? We want

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them to be serious, strong people,

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to run seriously, the way Milov is running.

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Support him. On Sunday there was a rally.

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Thank you very much to everyone who was there. You

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know that I wasn't there, but it seems to me that I

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still made a fairly significant contribution

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to making it successful. Well, maybe not huge,

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but some contribution, large or small, I did make.

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I am very happy that this rally

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drew more than 15,000 people.

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I am very happy that all of us together

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managed to outplay the Kremlin, which had clearly

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been counting on this being a

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small rally, or some kind of

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failure. And they were even forced

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to resort to one of their cheap tricks:

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they flew a drone about an hour

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before the rally started and showed everyone

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when there were still few people there—ha-ha—writing,

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look, nobody's here. Even though everyone perfectly

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well knew that this really was

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the biggest rally in recent years.

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Thank you to everyone who took part, thank you.

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Well done to the Libertarian Party, which

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organized all of this. And separately,

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many thanks to the Libertarian Party

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for not letting those vile, disgusting

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crooks who, by some misunderstanding, call themselves

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journalists into

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the area behind the stage. Right now RT (Russia Today),

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Margarita Simonyan, is going on about it. But my favorite

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part—the one I talk about a lot—is that they lie a lot

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about how they were supposedly not allowed into

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the rally at all. Those of you who have been to

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rallies and came closer to the stage

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know perfectly well that there is, so to speak,

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the general rally area, and everyone is allowed in there.

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Any journalists are allowed in there;

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it's impossible not to let them in—the police handle access.

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And then there is the area around the stage,

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and there the organizers decide whom they want

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to let in. They didn't let them in there, and

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they were right not to. And now they're losing their minds

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over it, writing tweets and saying, look...

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Look, these people claim to stand for freedom.

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Internet freedom, yet they barred all of us.

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It’s all lies, absolutely all of it.

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And even the libertarians are trying, just a little,

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to justify themselves, saying, “Well, we let them in there,”

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or “not there,” or “we were right,” or “we were wrong.”

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RT (Russia Today) needs to be driven out from everywhere, to hell with it,

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because these are not

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journalists.

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These are people who lie deliberately and intentionally.

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Why should we have to see these people at rallies?

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Just go to RT’s website

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and try to find any socially

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significant news from Russia — you won’t

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find it there. What you’ll find is endless

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lying. And that lying is paid for with our

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16 billion rubles from the state budget (about $250 million at historical rates). If we’re

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feeding this whole gang, it would be even

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more disgusting to see them in the

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rally area, wandering around there and

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snooping about. That does not in any way infringe

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on freedom of speech. Staying on the topic

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of the rally, it’s interesting how officials are reacting to this.

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They’re joking, they understand

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that these laws are completely absurd,

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idiotic laws. They understand that

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they’ll be very hard to enforce, and that

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the whole country is now turning against

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them. Let’s watch for 51 seconds how

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Valentina Matviyenko explains

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the problems that arose after these laws

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were passed. Yes, they joke and joke — they passed

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vile laws and now they joke and laugh. 51

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seconds of Valentina Matviyenko: “Just yesterday

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the Klishas laws were passed, and today already

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we’ve got not only smart scientists and

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experts,

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but an immensely talented, brilliant, creative people.”

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“Just yesterday the Klishas laws were passed, and

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today already — if you scold the authorities to your heart’s content,”

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“you fall under the law on insulting the authorities.”

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“Or rather, if you praise — if you scold the authorities,”

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“you fall under the law on”

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“criti— rather, if you criticize, excuse me, if you”

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“criticize the authorities, you fall under the law on

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insulting the authorities. If you praise the authorities,”

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“you fall under the fake news law.”

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And so on and so forth.

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The people aren’t asleep.

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So if you speak badly, you fall under

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one law — and there’s your punishment.

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Well, isn’t that adorable, right? I mean, we’re sitting here

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furious — and we really are furious, because

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ha-ha-ha, someone gets fined up to 300,000 rubles (about $4,500),

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or 30,000 rubles (about $450), excuse me.

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They’ll fine some person in some region,

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whether in a region, in Moscow, or anywhere else,

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simply because he wrote, “The mayor of our

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city is a scoundrel, a bastard, and a thief” — which is the plain

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truth. And they joke: ha-ha-ha.

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Just look at this attitude: “We have such

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talented people, listen, we have scientists,

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teachers, doctors — and so many jokers

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on the internet, making up jokes about us.”

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“They came up with a funny joke, and now

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let’s go ahead and punish all these

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people — we’ll fine them,”

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“we’ll jail them, we’ll lock them up for 15

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days for insulting the authorities.” They will

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of course snap back and joke, and we will

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retell their jokes here and laugh our heads off,

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glancing at our watches worth hundreds of thousands,

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millions, billions of rubles or dollars,

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whatever you like.

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Disgusting people. Even in these, actually,

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what seems like a human moment,

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they laughed — but if you really think

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about what’s happening there, how they

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cackle, understanding that they are some kind of super-

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elite, and that they can impose whatever

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laws they want on the rabble, and then

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receive feedback in the form of memes.

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It’s very, very nasty and revolting.

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Speaking of idlers, alcoholics, and the elite,

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I hope many of you have already

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seen our report today.

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If you haven’t watched it yet,

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you should. Though it’s not even really an investigation,

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I don’t even know what to call it — really,

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it’s more of a comparison. In the previous program I showed you

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that very same Gasan Nabiyev

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from United Russia,

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a deputy from Volgograd who said that

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a pension

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of around 8,000 rubles (about $120) is received only by

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idlers and alcoholics. Let’s take 15 seconds

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to refresh our memory: “Those who worked properly,”

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“earned a decent salary, or who created”

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“something over the years, receive this…”

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“The rest are drunks.”

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That outraged the whole country, outraged it

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so much that he was expelled. I already

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saw the news this evening: he was

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expelled from the party, despite his

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position at Gazprom, despite the fact that

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what he said is, essentially,

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the official position of United Russia. They

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were saying exactly the same thing for half a year before

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the retirement age was raised.

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They kept saying that, well, if a person

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worked hard, then their pension would be good; we

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would raise everyone’s now, but those who

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complain just don’t want to work themselves.

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Drunks, idlers — that’s basically what

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they said, in different ways, many, many times,

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and different speakers repeated it. But then

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Gasan Nabiyev ended up taking the heat.

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Maybe he expressed it in the most

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aggressive way, and maybe, I don’t know,

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perhaps those sociologists

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who endlessly talk about secret

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pollsters in the Kremlin monitoring

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public opinion all the time, and that

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Putin makes decisions in line

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with public opinion — well, perhaps

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somehow they really did pick up on the fact

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that Gasan Nabiyev in particular infuriated everyone

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a little more than usual.

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What’s happening is that he was expelled from United

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Russia, but nevertheless, here we are, on the subject of

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what prompted this video was actually a very

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interesting and instructive comparison we made.

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We compared an ordinary pensioner

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whom Gasan Nabiev should supposedly love

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with someone who came out of Gazprom itself.

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This Valery Golubev himself, well,

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nobody knows him. You don’t know him.

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Most likely, you’ve never even heard

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his name, unless you’ve taken an interest in Gazprom

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or regularly watch the program

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by Milov. But this, it seems to me,

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is the main point of what we

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should be thinking about: that some

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frankly, total nobodies came out of nowhere and devoured everything around them,

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and not just became fabulously rich, but

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super-fabulously rich. Let’s

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watch 46 seconds from this fairly long

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16-minute video. We’ll

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just take a look at the dacha. Golubev

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once allocated an apartment to a not particularly

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important

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St. Petersburg official named Putin,

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Vladimir Vladimirovich.

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Well, of course, we’re on Rublyovka (an elite residential area outside Moscow) right now.

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Right now, we’re looking at the main house,

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with 3,000 square meters in the main section

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and along a curved gallery you can walk to

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the bathhouse complex on the right. The total

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area of these buildings is 3,800 square meters.

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All of this—the land and the houses—with a total value of

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more than 3 billion rubles belong to

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Golubev, Vyacheslav Valeryevich,

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the 23-year-old son of Gazprom’s deputy chairman. He

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bought and built all of this when he was

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nineteen years old.

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Can people own houses worth three

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billion rubles? They can. Even houses worth 33 billion

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rubles, houses, I don’t know, steamships, yachts—

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they can own them. What’s the issue? But

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we would at least like these people to have somehow

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actually earned that money, so that there would be

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some correspondence between this person’s contribution

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and the benefit he brought

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to society, his, I don’t know, intellectual

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potential,

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and so on and so forth.

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So that it would match up, however crudely

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you break it down—sorry for such a primitive

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approach—but what we are seeing in Russia

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is literally some kind of hellish

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orgy of excess.

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Just random people,

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utterly worthless, literally neighbors

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of Putin, Putin’s former colleagues, and some

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pitiful clerks who sat

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in the office next to him in the St. Petersburg

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mayor’s office—they were absolute nobodies,

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complete nonentities. And that is precisely why, in our

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case, nothing works out for us,

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nothing develops; on the contrary,

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everything falls apart, because Putin’s кадровый ресурс (personnel pool),

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his key people who took

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all this for themselves, are just, well,

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neighbors, you understand? If I came to

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power and took my apartment neighbors or, say,

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I don’t know, went around and found

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the neighbors from my parents’ dacha, like,

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“these are reliable people, I’ve had shashlik (barbecue) with them,”

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so I’ll bring them in and appoint one of them

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—the neighbor on the right—to Gazprom, then

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I’d find some former classmate of mine

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from university who, back in

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the dorm, slept in the bunk next to mine,

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and I’d appoint him to Rosneft just like that,

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and so on—let’s be honest, that would end

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in nothing good. Most likely, everything

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would collapse. And you’ll say: well, that’s exactly what happened here—

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everything collapsed.

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Now look at this Golubev, and of course the question arises:

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well,

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“Come on, why are you harping on about his billion-ruble house?”

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After all, he was on the

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Gazprom management board—he’s supposed to be

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rich, right?” Fine, then let’s

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assess it objectively. Let’s forget about

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Putin and imagine that we know absolutely nothing

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about anyone. We’ve never heard of Golubev,

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or of Gasan Nabiev, and nobody has

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insulted us over

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the retirement age. There was Gazprom,

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it was worth $350 billion in 2008,

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and in 2008 Miller said that

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Gazprom would be worth a trillion. Please tell me,

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then: to what figure, by how much,

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did Gazprom grow? It was

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worth $350 billion, and these guys

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got yachts and planes out of it. This

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Golubev got several billion

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rubles, earned them—but that would make sense if

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Gazprom had grown and become something bigger. Logical,

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right? But since then Gazprom has fallen;

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now it is worth $60 billion.

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In other words, its value has collapsed.

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They simply wrecked everything there,

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dragged everything away—just objectively speaking.

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Even if you don’t take into account my

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dislike of Gazprom and its officials, or my

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desire to accuse everyone there of

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stealing everything—fine, let’s say they didn’t

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steal everything. But in any case, they

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managed it so badly, at the very least,

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that it shrank and became several times

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cheaper. They ruined Gazprom for us,

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they broke it. They were given Gazprom for 20 years,

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and they turned it into a much worse

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company than it was before it fell into their

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hands. So why the hell should we

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be looking at houses worth billions, and why should we

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calmly look at these houses now while

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for some reason OMON and SOBR (Russian riot police and special rapid-response units) aren’t storming in there

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shouting, “Explain yourselves—where did you get

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the money for all of this?” But meanwhile,

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at the same time,

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companies like Amazon and Samsung used to be

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smaller than Gazprom,

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but now all of these companies

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They are worth exactly that same trillion dollars.

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dollars, while Gazprom is not. Well, let’s

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just, then, based on the results of this

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performance, based on the results of actual

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work, pay these people money—meaning

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Golubev, apparently, should not receive

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anything.

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Or he should be paid, but only some kind of

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ordinary salary. Let him get 150,000

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rubles a month, or let him

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get 500,000 rubles a month, but

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let’s not pay

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them—after all, they keep going there, that whole team,

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Miller and all the rest, we pay them

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billions for the company to become

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worse and worse and worse. That’s what the video was about.

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Besides all these things, professions, everything

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else—against the backdrop of sheer poverty, against the backdrop

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of collapse—we officially keep handing out

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and handing out more, and nobody is outraged, and

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even deputies there, the communists in the

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State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament), aren’t especially

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outraged, which separately really

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annoys me a lot. Fine, LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia), and at least

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A Just Russia—but they are formally

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the opposition. Introduce a bill saying that

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they should strip the hell out of them of their money—all those whose

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market capitalization is falling, and it was falling even

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back in the days when oil was doing just fine

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and rising. That, that, that is what needs to be done. What really

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gets to me—and not just me—is this

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situation, because, well, time is passing

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and Gazprom is getting smaller and smaller. It’s not as if

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things have stopped there.

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They keep tearing everything apart and

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looting it.

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And someday they will leave, of course,

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but what exactly will be left after them

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for us, or even for our children? There will be nothing left.

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Absolutely nothing. Gazprom used to be worth 350,

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now it’s worth 60, and how much will it be worth next—6?

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That is the thing that hits a nerve and that

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needs to be discussed. Chechen officials

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are astonishing and continue simply to

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amaze us, really.

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Amaze us—I personally watched with amazement

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the incident that happened

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this week with the speaker of Chechnya’s parliament,

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Magomed Daudov, nicknamed “Lord.”

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In Chechnya, everyone knows him as Lord, and he is one of

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Ramzan

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Kadyrov’s closest associates—this is all well known—but

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he publicly declared a blood feud

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via Instagram. He declared a blood feud

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against the video blogger Tumso Abdurakhmanov.

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Abdurakhmanov.

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Tumso Abdurakhmanov—I know him a little indirectly.

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He took part in my

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contest

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for video clips, video blogs, which I

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once announced on my birthday.

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Lately I’ve been following him fairly closely.

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By the way, I recommend that all of you watch him.

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I recommend watching him—he is quite an

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interesting person. He is a Chechen who

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is currently living in forced exile.

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I disagree with quite a large

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range of his views, but everyone

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in Chechnya watches him. No matter whom

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among Chechens I have spoken with, mostly

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in detention centers, everyone knows him.

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Everyone watches him. Go to his channel and

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you’ll see that he doesn’t have that many subscribers.

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It’s scary to subscribe too—someone might see it

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and punish you. But everyone watches him. If you

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want to understand what is happening in Chechnya,

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you absolutely have to watch him. And he

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speaks Russian, and in good

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Russian too. Everything is very clear; he is very

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good at explaining things clearly.

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And in fact, this confrontation

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between Abdurakhmanov, on the one hand,

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and Daudov and Kadyrov, on the other,

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this kind of public

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confrontation, is the most interesting thing

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happening in Chechnya right now, and therefore

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through this confrontation

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you can see the main political

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process taking place in the republic.

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Well, that is, it’s clear that in this confrontation

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Abdurakhmanov is, of course, in favor of

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Chechnya leaving the

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Russian Federation altogether. Those arguing with him

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have to argue with him—they are Russian

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officials, despite the fact that they are Chechens,

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despite the fact that they are all there with

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gold-plated pistols hanging off them,

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formally they are Russian officials. They have

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Russian official IDs, they

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sign the payroll sheets and receive

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a salary. In other words, these are people who are

22:29

supported by—well, by the money

22:30

of taxpayers. But at the same time, from within

22:34

this formal structure,

22:38

they go off to various ministries, to

22:41

some state councils and who knows where else, and then a person

22:43

simply

22:44

comes out and declares a blood feud.

22:47

Let’s take a look at the Chechen-language clip, but we

22:49

have subtitles—35 seconds of Daudov.

22:52

Officially, after your words about Akhmat-Haji (Akhmat Kadyrov, Ramzan Kadyrov’s father),

22:55

we declare a blood feud against you.

22:58

You are my enemy,

23:01

you are the enemy of my brothers, and we

23:03

will look for you.

23:07

We are not going to kill you tomorrow—don’t

23:11

say that we want to kill you. We will

23:13

deal with you in our own way. I fear

23:18

no one but God. If I do what

23:21

I promised to do to you, it makes no difference to me

23:23

even if I die.

23:25

And

23:30

my brothers and I will be looking for you.

23:33

So there you have it. Well, every one of us

23:37

has heard things like this many times. It is some kind of

23:41

talk—whether real or just

23:43

bragging—that happens constantly,

23:46

but in general we expect to see this—but

23:49

somewhere in an alleyway, and

23:51

or at a market, or in that same

23:53

detention center, or some conversation

23:56

between people with a criminal past, with

23:58

a criminal present, or simply

24:00

you know, some people had a drink

24:04

or some recently discharged conscripts got into a fight with each other, and they

24:07

say to each other, "Oh yeah? I'll

24:09

find you with my brothers, we'll deal with you,"

24:11

"so watch your back now, walk carefully."

24:15

The speaker of parliament. That's why I'm

24:19

so astonished. I was watching and thinking, well,

24:22

now it's going to start, because surely they have to

24:25

react somehow, the officials, to

24:27

this. I mean, what the hell — a guy is declaring

24:30

a blood feud.

24:31

We understand perfectly well that Ramzan Kadyrov

24:35

is feeling a whole range of emotions because

24:38

Abdurakhmanov is saying something

24:40

bad about him, about his father, and Daudov

24:43

is feeling a lot of emotions too. Well, they all are.

24:45

They're all feeling a lot of emotions. In Russia there are

24:49

hundreds of thousands of people who have said, or

24:53

still say, bad things about the father

24:55

of Ramzan Kadyrov, Akhmad-Hadji Kadyrov

24:58

because at one point in his

25:00

life he fought against federal troops.

25:03

That is part of Russian history.

25:05

Obviously it's very unpleasant for them, but

25:08

so what if it's unpleasant for an official?

25:10

Tell your friends something like that,

25:12

or the other one — if he really has time

25:15

to watch a video blogger — instead

25:17

he just goes on Instagram, on a live stream,

25:19

and declares a blood feud. And this

25:22

is seen by all Chechens, and they understand: well, if they

25:25

can do that, then what can we do? And this is seen by

25:27

all Russians, all of the North

25:29

Caucasus sees it, officials in the Kremlin see it,

25:32

Dmitry Peskov sees it, and he then

25:35

refuses to comment on this

25:36

statement. He says, quote:

25:39

"I don't know, I haven't seen it myself, so I won't

25:41

undertake to comment. In general, as you

25:43

know, in the legal field there is no such concept

25:45

as the tradition of blood feud,

25:48

and it's not even very clear what that

25:51

means." Peskov is telling us that

25:53

since there is no such thing as a blood feud,

25:56

then let them declare it — they're declaring

25:58

something nonexistent — or

26:02

maybe, on the contrary, he is condemning it.

26:04

It's not very clear. But I want to say to

26:07

Peskov

26:08

and to the astonishingly inactive

26:10

Investigative Committee, the police, everyone

26:12

else, that this concept absolutely does

26:14

exist in our law. There is an article on murder, and there

26:17

are aggravating circumstances for murder

26:20

committed on the grounds of blood feud.

26:23

This has always existed. It was in the criminal

26:26

code

26:27

of the USSR, the RSFSR, and the various Soviet republics,

26:31

which Chechnya was always part of. I remember perfectly well

26:34

when I was still preparing for exams, it was

26:36

in the RSFSR criminal code — blood feud

26:39

was there, and it is still there now. And there is also

26:41

the offense of, excuse me, making a death threat. This is

26:45

an explicit, obvious death threat

26:48

made by an official, and it just

26:51

floors me. Just imagine:

26:53

the speaker of parliament — there he is at the same

26:56

address by Putin, sitting at those

26:59

other events, you know, right there,

27:02

here the prosecutor general is having a discussion about

27:05

investigations and clearance rates,

27:07

over here the human rights ombudsman

27:09

is discussing with a representative

27:11

something about the situation in prisons,

27:13

what needs to be done there — and here this guy

27:15

is talking about blood feud and the murder

27:18

of a video blogger. This cannot be happening.

27:22

Not to mention that I often say on my

27:25

program that this is

27:27

absolutely disastrous for the North

27:29

Caucasus,

27:30

for Chechens themselves, for Chechnya. This once again

27:32

reinforces the image of some kind of wild

27:34

republic where a high-ranking

27:37

official, the second most important person in the republic,

27:38

declares a blood feud. Good grief.

27:40

Wild people, wild people with beards running around,

27:44

waving pistols, declaring

27:46

blood feuds to each other, with brothers, like they're

27:47

hunting someone down.

27:49

It should not be like this. And against the backdrop of

27:52

all this, they're saying to tourists today:

27:54

"Come to Chechnya, we'll be

27:57

very glad to welcome you to our wonderful,

28:00

our wonderful, hospitable

28:03

republic." Wait a second, just hold on there,

28:05

we're just going to kill this man's soul with

28:07

our brothers — we've found him,

28:08

we want to "entertain" him our way, the

28:10

Chechen way — and then come on over and check into

28:13

our cozy hotel. It's a complete mess,

28:16

absolute nonsense. I

28:19

am simply watching very closely

28:22

the Interior Ministry, the Investigative Committee, all

28:25

the rest, because they have to do

28:26

something. We called

28:29

Tumso Abdurakhmanov and asked him

28:34

to speak specifically for the viewers

28:35

of the program about what he thinks

28:38

about all this. He responded and recorded

28:40

a short video for us. Many thanks to him for that.

28:41

Let's listen to Tumso

28:44

Abdurakhmanov, against whom a blood

28:47

feud has been declared. One minute and a few seconds. As for

28:50

the blood feud declared against me

28:52

by the chairman of the Chechen parliament,

28:54

Daudov, I have long since stopped being surprised

28:56

by anything that representatives of

28:59

the Kadyrov authorities say or do. If

29:01

even tomorrow, on the central square

29:02

in Grozny, a person were publicly executed,

29:05

even that would not surprise me. But what does surprise me

29:08

is the absence of any adequate response.

29:10

from the highest echelons of the Russian

29:11

authorities toward the blatant disregard

29:15

for Russian laws by their vassals in

29:17

Chechnya. How can the speaker of parliament

29:20

openly threaten a person, declare

29:22

a blood feud, thereby violating

29:24

Russian law, and yet there is absolutely no

29:26

reaction from either the Investigative Committee

29:28

or any other bodies? Although if, say, you

29:31

take Navalny, for example—if he merely hinted

29:33

somewhere on Twitter that somewhere

29:36

an unauthorized rally would take place, he would

29:38

be locked up for 30 days. We know perfectly well

29:41

how this works. Or how can, for example,

29:43

another representative of this same

29:45

parliament, Andreev, openly say that

29:47

he basically, in our country,

29:49

does not like Russians—and again, there is

29:53

no reaction at all. This person remains

29:54

in his post. Yes, of course, we

29:57

respect human rights, and

29:59

he is entitled to his opinion—he may dislike Russians,

30:01

Chechens, the whole world, anyone he wants—but

30:03

a Russian official, a sitting

30:07

member of parliament, cannot allow himself such

30:09

public statements. I think the

30:12

Russian authorities should long ago have

30:14

pay attention to this.

30:16

The Russian authorities really should

30:19

pay attention to this.

30:21

But if you noticed, in the second

30:23

part of his speech, Dud

30:25

also mentioned another deputy who

30:28

said that he does not like Russians.

30:30

I got curious and went to look it up.

30:32

It was a statement in Chechen,

30:35

in the Chechen language, and when we translated it, I

30:40

was once again genuinely astonished.

30:44

Now, we understand very well that people

30:48

can say whatever they want in their own kitchens.

30:49

Chechens say all sorts of things about

30:52

Russians; Russians say things about Chechens too,

30:54

and not only in their apartments but also in

30:56

various conversations elsewhere. But it is assumed

30:58

that officials have certain restraints.

31:02

And yet another member of United

31:06

Russia, Magomed Khanbiyev, also a deputy

31:09

in that very same parliament, simply

31:12

made an astonishing statement.

31:16

There he was, live on his Instagram, and

31:19

considering that this man has such an

31:21

interesting biography—during the war

31:23

he also fought against federal troops, and he

31:27

was even the defense minister of Ichkeria (the self-proclaimed Chechen Republic of Ichkeria), that is,

31:29

if you were defense minister and then

31:32

switched to Russia’s side, joined

31:35

United Russia, and became an official

31:38

Russian official, your leader is Dmitry

31:41

Medvedev.

31:42

You simply should not be saying things like

31:45

the things he said. Let’s watch 21

31:47

seconds of it now; then it will be easier for you

31:50

[unintelligible speech]

31:54

[unintelligible speech]

31:57

[unintelligible speech]

32:01

[unintelligible speech]

32:04

[unintelligible speech]

32:06

[unintelligible speech]

32:11

Fine, no problem—if you don’t like Russians, then don’t

32:14

talk to them, if you don’t want to.

32:15

Don’t talk to them. Good Lord, there are plenty of

32:18

Russians

32:19

who do not want to talk to Chechens either.

32:20

But then don’t go into

32:23

United Russia. Then you shouldn’t

32:26

become an official. Then you shouldn’t

32:30

go around saying, ‘Vladimir Vladimirovich

32:32

Putin, you are our president,’ and all the rest of it.

32:35

This is the ruling party. How do these people

32:37

manage

32:39

to be part of the ruling party and

32:42

for that same government to keep talking endlessly about Russophobia:

32:45

look, there’s Russophobia in America,

32:47

there’s Russophobia in Poland, where

32:50

that Tumso lives, there are Russophobes in the Netherlands,

32:53

Russophobes there, and of course on

32:55

Ukraine—an entire nest of Russophobia.

32:58

And then this very same representative of the authorities,

33:01

a deputy of the Chechen parliament and a member of United Russia,

33:04

says: well yes, Russians—I don’t like Russians.

33:08

I mean, my—how did he put it—my

33:11

padishah is Chechen, I am a son of Ichkeria,

33:14

I don’t shake hands with them, I don’t speak to them.

33:19

And United Russia stays silent.

33:23

Silent about this.

33:26

That other gentleman who spoke about pensioners

33:28

and ‘a few thousand rubles’—they have already

33:30

expelled him. I am very curious what they

33:34

will do with our wonderful Magomed

33:37

Khanbiyev. I am publicly appealing to the party

33:42

United Russia and its leadership:

33:44

please, my dear friends,

33:47

either express solidarity with his words

33:50

or expel him, or at least

33:53

do something—somehow make your

33:56

position clear in connection with this,

33:57

well, with this strange position

34:01

of a member of your party. Separately, by the way,

34:03

it is simply very, very funny. I started

34:07

looking into who this person is. I do not

34:11

know very well—perhaps to my shame—the

34:12

history

34:15

and the key figures of the First Chechen

34:16

War. I went to Magomed Khanbiyev’s

34:20

biography on the Chechen parliament’s

34:23

page, and we know that Khanbiyev

34:25

from 1998 to 2004

34:28

fought against federal troops and

34:31

was defense minister. And there is an entry there, but

34:34

it is worded in such a way that from

34:36

1994 to 2005, during that time he worked in

34:41

various positions.

34:43

That, taken separately, is Homerically funny.

34:46

Well, ‘worked in various positions’—does that

34:49

mean first he shot at federal

34:51

soldiers with an assault rifle, then got promoted to shooting with a

34:54

grenade launcher, and then became defense minister

34:55

in the end? They might as well have just written that.

34:58

We know everything about Chechnya’s history.

35:00

A lot of the current police officers there were, back when...

35:03

...they were fighting against the federal troops, and then later...

35:05

So, all of that changed, well, and...

35:07

write that

35:10

at such-and-such a time, he took part in

35:12

combat operations—no, rather, worked in

35:15

various positions and continues

35:18

to work now in various positions.

35:20

United Russia still simply doesn’t

35:22

like Russians and doesn’t want to speak with

35:24

Russians, doesn’t want to talk to Russians, and this isn’t even

35:26

happening only in Chechnya—it’s a completely

35:28

wild story; today, actually, somehow

35:31

I don’t know why, but all at once online

35:32

they decided to make so many

35:35

statements. In Ingushetia, there was perhaps

35:38

an even more absurd story there.

35:41

The head—the mayor of Magas, Beslan Sataev. Magas is

35:47

the capital of Ingushetia, for those who don’t know. He, well,

35:51

seemed to take offense not even at Russians; he decided

35:53

to threaten not Russians, but an anonymous

35:55

Telegram channel. It had published his

35:57

post that he had made on VKontakte.

35:59

So, some Telegram channel wrote something

36:02

bad about him—a small St. Petersburg

36:04

pathetic little Telegram channel. Later I

36:07

tried—I got curious about how, exactly,

36:09

a small Telegram channel

36:10

had insulted the mayor of Magas.

36:12

So he declared—I’m explaining here—

36:16

“And I promise that I will find out the personal data

36:20

of this channel’s author and

36:22

the punishment will be harsh. To find and punish

36:24

you—that’s the meaning of life.” Good grief, man,

36:32

seriously? Your meaning of life is

36:34

to find and punish some guy

36:37

who writes on a Telegram channel? So I

36:40

tried to find it—I got curious how exactly

36:42

he had been so offended. I couldn’t even find that

36:43

Telegram channel—it’s impossible to find. And

36:47

basically, probably no one except

36:49

the channel’s five readers would ever have

36:51

known about it. But this has become a habit

36:55

among our officials from the Caucasus, and this

36:59

whole business of trading messages through

37:02

Instagram demanding apologies—it

37:05

keeps spreading further and further. Well,

37:07

you see, he has already declared that the meaning

37:09

of his life is to find someone and

37:11

punish them. So now he’ll be muttering all the time,

37:13

saying something like,

37:15

“Beslan, have you found him? Punished him? Have you

37:19

fulfilled your life’s purpose somehow?” And this will

37:21

just keep building up.

37:22

He’ll get worked up, and then, foolishly,

37:23

he’ll actually go and find

37:24

the author of the Telegram channel, and then what will he

37:27

do to him in some back alley? Why do these people

37:30

engage in such nonsense? Why do they

37:32

disgrace their own people, and why do they disgrace

37:34

their own republics by digging up something somewhere and

37:37

making these idiotic appeals while being

37:42

Russian officials? Look, you’re an official.

37:45

By definition, you understand that officials

37:48

are not liked by people. If I become an official, then

37:50

they’ll write that kind of stuff about me too, and

37:52

they already do. It’s an inevitable part

37:55

of public politics: you always have

37:58

enemies, and they insult you in various

38:01

ways—funny ones, nasty ones,

38:05

stupid ones, or sometimes genuinely quite

38:08

offensive ones. That’s just part of it. If

38:11

you don’t want anyone to insult you,

38:12

then don’t become

38:14

a Russian official, and no one

38:16

will insult you. Since we’ve started talking

38:18

about Russophobia, I see people are asking on the topic.

38:22

Pavel asks me:

38:25

“Hello, Alexei, tell me what the U.S. investigation

38:27

into Putin’s assets will be like.

38:30

Will it be similar to yours, or completely different? Aren’t they

38:32

taking away your so-called

38:36

bread and butter? Thank you.” And indeed,

38:39

the U.S. Congress passed a resolution

38:43

saying that they will look for

38:45

Vladimir Putin’s assets. Dmitry

38:49

Peskov immediately called it Russophobia. Before

38:54

we discuss that a little, just for

38:56

a second, so you understand better what

38:58

is going on—one second—the Americans’ statement

39:00

that they are going to do something there

39:02

regarding Vladimir Putin.

39:44

[music]

39:56

And Dmitry Peskov says that these are,

39:59

I quote,

40:01

“Russophobic attempts.” But why Russophobic?

40:05

Anti-Putin—sure. But what exactly is Russophobic

40:09

about it, really? If you set aside the fact that

40:12

they’re speaking English and

40:13

are in another country, what they’re saying is

40:15

basically this: Vladimir Putin

40:16

is corrupt; he stole a lot of money

40:18

from the citizens of Russia, and we are instructing our

40:22

national intelligence

40:23

to find Vladimir Putin’s money and

40:27

provide information about that money.

40:30

That seems to me like a pretty pro-Russian

40:33

gesture. After all, if Vladimir

40:35

Putin didn’t steal anything and didn’t hide anything, then

40:38

they won’t find anything.

40:39

And if he did steal and hide it, then they will find it,

40:42

and that will be good for us. Probably sooner or

40:44

later that money will come back to us. Why

40:46

does Dmitry Peskov call this Russophobia, while

40:49

a statement by a Chechen deputy saying that

40:51

with Russians

40:52

there is no need to speak is not considered

40:53

Russophobia? That’s no mystery at all,

40:55

because Dmitry Peskov is the same kind of

40:57

thief, and he is afraid that his money, his

41:02

Swiss—whatever—Liechtenstein

41:04

accounts, and his wife’s accounts,

41:06

will be found. So it’s obvious that

41:08

all these people are worried. However, answering

41:10

Pavel’s question about what

41:12

the Americans’ investigation will be like, I assume

41:14

it will be nothing of the sort. I assume that I have nothing...

41:17

They won’t find it, because no such thing exists

41:20

as a secret Swiss bank where

41:25

there’s supposedly a safe-deposit box with a label saying

41:28

“V. V. Putin,” and he comes there secretly, wearing a mask, and

41:33

opens it with some kind of diamond key, and inside

41:35

there’s cash, or diamonds, or I don’t know

41:38

the relics of Seraphim of Sarov (a revered Russian Orthodox saint), or whatever

41:41

like that.

41:42

There’s nothing like that. Putin and his friends

41:47

really did steal an enormous amount

41:50

of money, and that money is very much in plain sight. Well,

41:52

take Rotenberg’s money,

41:54

that’s Putin’s money. The money of various Shama-

41:57

lovs and everyone else—that’s all bribery money,

41:59

Putin’s money. Billionaire Kirill Shamalov,

42:02

a billionaire.

42:03

It’s still unclear whether he divorced Putin’s daughter

42:06

or not, but either way, that is

42:07

Putin’s money. And the money of Timchenko and

42:10

Shamalov—that is, the money sitting in

42:13

Surgutneftegas: billions of dollars

42:15

sitting in accounts—that’s all Putin’s money,

42:19

which he can use

42:20

at any moment, and do whatever he wants with it.

42:22

The other question is that with that much

42:24

money, there’s not really much special you can do,

42:27

and besides, what is he supposed to do

42:28

with money? Go to McDonald’s

42:30

and buy himself a double cheeseburger, or I don’t

42:32

know, a yacht? He already has a yacht for free.

42:35

A plane too—well, not exactly free, but he doesn’t need money for a plane either.

42:37

He doesn’t need any money, so he doesn’t need any

42:40

Swiss account either, and

42:41

since he wants to be president for life,

42:43

he doesn’t need any rainy-day stash

42:47

for hard times.

42:48

Well, I mean, he does need one, and he has one.

42:50

When, excuse me,

42:53

those very same billions belonging to the cellist

42:55

Roldugin—billions of dollars sitting in

42:59

a friend’s accounts—that is his rainy-day stash.

43:02

But again, it’s registered in a friend’s name, in the name of

43:04

a cellist. They won’t find any money specifically

43:06

belonging to Putin. And I think

43:08

U.S. intelligence will publish a report

43:12

that will simply contain a bunch of facts from

43:14

our own investigations. They’ll tell us

43:17

that Vladimir Putin and his friends stole

43:18

a lot of money, and that this money sits in the accounts

43:20

of Putin’s friends. And really,

43:22

we already know that perfectly well. Let me

43:27

take a look.

43:29

Sora V. asks me where to check

43:32

the promised salary in your field under the May decrees

43:35

relative to the subsistence minimum in your region.

43:36

How do you calculate it? You don’t need to calculate anything.

43:38

Just type in “Navalny Trade Union”

43:40

(Profsoyuz Navalnogo).

43:41

Click the first link, enter your region,

43:44

enter your profession, and you’ll have

43:47

there—you can see the link on the screen right now—

43:49

a convenient interface that

43:52

will tell you: this is what your salary should be

43:54

if you work full-time,

43:56

at a minimum, and you’ll be able

44:00

to file a complaint right there. “Northern Reindeer” asks me

44:03

why the outrage over

44:04

Klishas’s bill on illegally acquired property

44:06

died down so quickly, and what needs to be done to get

44:08

a meaningful response to this kind of law.

44:10

But the outrage hasn’t died down,

44:12

has it?

44:14

Northern Reindeer, no, it hasn’t died down for me.

44:16

Inside, I’m still boiling, I assure you.

44:20

Millions of people are boiling inside too, but

44:22

it’s not that the outrage died down—it never even

44:24

arose where it should have arisen:

44:26

in the State Duma.

44:29

So our task is simply to make sure that it doesn’t

44:32

go out inside us, and when there are

44:35

rallies, public speeches,

44:39

and elections,

44:41

and Smart Voting in 20 regions, to go out and

44:44

you, my dear Northern Reindeer, should take your

44:47

indignation to the polling station

44:50

and vote in accordance with

44:51

the Smart Voting recommendation. Right now,

44:54

the link has appeared—go there,

44:55

register right now, don’t wait,

44:57

damage United Russia. But the authorities—

45:00

I mean, what, is Klishas going to condemn himself?

45:02

No. As long as they are in power,

45:05

they won’t show any dissatisfaction

45:07

at all. When we remove them, then

45:09

that will be a different matter. When that happens, when

45:12

events start unfolding, we will remind them of all

45:14

of this. So: bad children, we’ll

45:19

send to camps, and good children

45:21

we’ll send to Yunarmiya (the Young Army youth movement).

45:25

A very interesting process is happening right now.

45:27

It seems to me that many people have treated it

45:31

as a joke, and it’s hard not to,

45:33

because it is

45:34

very funny. But generally speaking, this is

45:38

a strategy already being adopted

45:40

by the authorities toward young people, schoolchildren, and

45:44

students. You’ve seen that they’ve used lots

45:47

of different tricks: rapper Ptakha was paid

45:50

to record songs, and

45:53

to rap about how protesting is bad.

45:55

Then Alisa Vox sang, and after that they spent a long time

45:58

doing all sorts of ridiculous things, inviting

46:01

blogger Sasha Spielberg to speak in

46:03

the State Duma. And now they

46:05

are allocating money and trying, basically,

46:09

to split young people into two groups:

46:12

the good group will be

46:14

in Yunarmiya, a movement

46:18

which already claims that

46:20

it has 170,000 members, but they simply

46:23

automatically enrolled

46:26

all

46:28

students of military schools and so on,

46:30

various cadet schools. But it has been announced that

46:33

the size of this Yunarmiya

46:36

will be increased to one million people, and

46:40

quite concrete steps are being taken,

46:42

by the way, to make that happen.

46:43

for example, at every Rostec enterprise

46:46

there is a directive to set one up there

46:49

a Yunarmiya branch, and

46:51

all employees' children, all employees' children

46:55

need to be enrolled in this Yunarmiya, well,

46:57

so that way, after all, in our

46:59

Rostec, which brings together the entire defense industry,

47:02

a huge number of people work there

47:04

they'll shove a lot of people into this Yun

47:07

Army. What does Yunarmiya look like? It's very

47:09

funny, even cooler than the Young

47:12

Pioneers, which I was a member of in Soviet

47:15

times, and I tied my neckerchief myself. Even now

47:17

if you wake me up, with my eyes closed

47:19

I'll still be able to tie that red

47:22

but let's look at the Yunarmiya website

47:25

where they've posted the anthem and all that sort of thing

47:28

39 seconds of what

47:30

good children who see and love

47:33

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

47:35

[music]

47:50

with

47:59

don't whine

48:00

they keep formation

48:05

[music]

48:15

and

48:15

and the banners rustle. It looks very funny

48:19

and amusing, but we shouldn't forget that

48:21

the clichés of the Pioneer organization—good Lord, in

48:23

an instant you remember what we had there

48:25

"Bonfires blazed up"—children, not children, blaze up

48:29

like bonfires. God, I forgot Pioneer Day

48:31

why I forgot: because every time we would

48:34

sit around and drink and sing, "Blaze up like bonfires

48:36

in the blue night, we are Pioneers, children of workers," and

48:39

naturally all children, all children who

48:42

are my age remember perfectly well that we sang

48:44

"Blaze up like bonfires, barrels of gasoline, we are

48:46

Pioneers, children of Georgians, in dry cleaners"—what

48:49

Georgians have to do with it, that got lodged in

48:50

my head too. The media laughed at all this

48:53

but this was, after all, the Pioneer

48:56

organization. It was impossible not to

48:58

join it. A person without a red neckerchief

49:00

was an absolute outcast, simply in their own

49:02

class. And here too, gradually, step

49:06

by step, they'll herd people into this Yunarmiya, and I

49:09

think we'll see, especially in small

49:11

towns where Rostec enterprises

49:14

are the town-forming employers, in so-called

49:16

single-industry towns, that children will be driven there

49:19

because the money has already been allocated, and for

49:21

that money they have to report results. And what are we

49:23

going to do with the bad children?

49:24

Well, Nikolai Patrushev told us about that

49:27

the Secretary of the Security Council, former

49:29

FSB director. Speaking at this very

49:31

Security Council meeting in

49:33

Izhevsk, he said that the Ministry of Internal Affairs has a working

49:36

group for preventing and solving

49:39

crimes connected with

49:41

manipulating the minds of

49:45

minors through social media

49:47

so this working group

49:49

has stepped up its activity. But when

49:51

we talk about who is manipulating

49:53

the minds of minors through

49:55

social media, your humble servant

49:57

always, in such cases,

49:59

is obviously what they mean—me and people like me

50:02

I won't name names. Their children should be read to

50:05

those who fell for the sweet talk

50:08

of certain destructive video bloggers

50:11

they will be sent, as Patrushev said,

50:13

to military-patriotic camps, well

50:17

that is, apparently the good Yunarmiya kids, they

50:20

apparently stand guard over something, while the bad ones

50:23

where

50:24

and there, under the supervision of Yunarmiya members, they

50:26

are re-educated, using, who knows,

50:28

peeling potatoes or being forced to crawl

50:30

or

50:31

being locked in cells until you

50:33

go through re-forging (ideological re-education) and become a

50:36

normal Yunarmiya member and start

50:38

marching in formation

50:39

singing a little song about rustling banners, and

50:45

in that sense, something else quite close to this topic

50:49

is also rather interesting, something that

50:50

happened: Putin met with the head of Ros

50:53

finmonitoring—Rosfinmonitoring, so that you

50:55

understand, this is a very powerful

50:56

organization because it sees all

50:59

bank transfers, all payments, everything, everything

51:02

everything, everything, everything. In that sense,

51:04

Rosfinmonitoring can see perfectly well how much

51:07

everyone steals, because all the cash-out schemes are there,

51:11

you can see it all there. And it's a disgusting

51:15

organization entirely in the sense that

51:17

it does nothing. According to official data, from Russia

51:20

billions are being taken out

51:24

tens of billions of dollars. A large

51:27

part of it, a large part of that money,

51:29

is connected one way or another with officials

51:32

with corruption and with tax

51:34

evasion, and they just cover their faces like this and

51:36

pretend not to see any of it. But they did see 80

51:41

billion rubles that, they say, are being directed

51:44

toward goals of a certain

51:47

destructive nature. Let's listen to what

51:49

this Yuri Chikhanchin, the head of

51:52

Rosfinmonitoring, said to Putin. 22

51:54

seconds—go ahead

51:57

and today, for good causes, we have

52:01

something on the order of 80 billion that we're tracking

52:04

let's try to understand—this is where I got completely lost

52:06

ladies

52:07

from foreign countries, and also from

52:09

within the country, including those that go toward

52:13

certain somewhat destructive things

52:19

What a disgusting, lying crook. What I

52:21

want to say—listen, this is phrased rather

52:24

cunningly: 80 billion rubles

52:27

came from abroad to Russian NPOs (non-profit organizations)

52:32

and an ordinary person listening at home

52:34

thinks, holy hell, I listened and thought, damn, where

52:37

do such rich NGOs come from, where

52:40

is that 80 billion rubles going, and then

52:43

When you start looking into it, you see that

52:45

the picture is nothing like it seems.

52:47

It’s presented as if

52:48

things are moving toward a certain level

52:52

of destructiveness; it makes it look as though

52:54

there’s some story in Russia that somehow

52:56

the Americans, the State Department, are pumping in a huge amount of money—80

53:00

billion—and that they’re doing something here. But in

53:03

reality, if we take the organizations

53:06

designated as “foreign agents” out of those

53:10

80 billion, they received only

53:13

600 million.

53:14

And most of the money, most of those

53:16

80 billion—do you know what it is? It’s the ROC (Russian Orthodox Church).

53:20

A nonprofit organization that

53:22

receives money from the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia

53:24

which gets donations from abroad.

53:26

Then, you know what else it is?

53:29

A nonprofit organization that

53:30

deals with the destruction of chemical

53:33

weapons—that’s a state partnership.

53:35

It’s all sorts of United Russia (the ruling party) foundations, because

53:39

the overwhelming majority of this money,

53:41

of these 80 billion, does not come from

53:44

the United States.

53:45

It comes from Cyprus. And from Cyprus, what kind of money comes?

53:48

That’s right—our own money.

53:52

It was taken out, laundered, and then various

53:55

people like Yakunin, the former head of Russian Railways, they funnel the money

53:59

back here into their own charitable

54:00

foundations.

54:01

The St. Andrew the First-Called Foundation, for example.

54:03

In our investigations, we talked about such

54:05

foundations—oligarchic ones, or some kind of

54:07

bureaucratic setup where the official’s wife has to be occupied with something.

54:11

So the wife sets up

54:13

a charity to help children, or

54:15

some other kind of

54:17

Orthodox cause, or whatever, I don’t know—or she

54:19

just sings songs. Every wife of every

54:23

respectable official or oligarch is supposed to have

54:26

a charitable foundation. And for those

54:27

charitable foundations, where do you get the money?

54:29

People aren’t exactly going to donate, so you

54:31

send money there from your Cypriot offshore account,

54:33

and then she spends it here on something,

54:35

makes donations, and so on. That’s what this is.

54:38

In other words, it’s the same bureaucratic

54:41

money, interstate money. And then there’s

54:43

also a large amount of completely

54:45

normal funding: educational institutions

54:49

take part in international scientific grant programs,

54:52

win them, receive this money, and with it

54:55

scientists do their work, carry out

54:57

research—and that also gets counted within

55:00

those 80 billion. It sounds better that way,

55:02

you have to admit—more ominous, as if it were for some

55:04

destructive purpose. In reality, there’s nothing

55:07

of the sort there. So it’s simply

55:09

an outright lie.

55:10

But as the elections get closer, you’ll hear about these 80

55:13

billion many, many more times.

55:15

And every time it will be framed in a context

55:17

as if it means: look, the Americans

55:20

have allocated 80 billion,

55:23

they’re giving it to Russian NGOs, so we must

55:25

give even more to people like Vladimir Solovyov

55:28

—800 billion—so that they can

55:31

take part in this information war.

55:35

German Rey asks me what’s going on with

55:37

Brilyov. He writes that Brilyov was removed from

55:39

the public council. Is that true?

55:41

Yes, he was removed, and our little campaign

55:46

against this Briton in Russia—our wonderful

55:48

Brilyov—unfortunately continues to remain

55:53

a state propagandist living off

55:55

our money. But we really spent a huge amount

55:58

of effort on it: correspondence with the Defense Ministry,

56:01

the prosecutor’s office, and everyone else. We

56:02

forced them, at least in a ritual,

56:06

symbolic sense, to remove Brilyov from

56:08

the Public Council of the Ministry

56:10

of Defense. It’s just ridiculous: here is a man

56:12

who swore allegiance to the British monarch

56:14

and the British state, sitting on the council

56:16

of Russia’s Ministry of Defense, which

56:19

regards Britain as one of its main

56:21

potential

56:24

adversaries.

56:24

At first, Shoigu and all the others

56:27

replied to us: we are not going to

56:29

remove him, even though the law directly

56:30

states that a person with dual

56:32

citizenship cannot serve on a public council.

56:34

They said, well, his term will expire and

56:37

that will be the end of Brilyov. But we

56:39

got genuinely angry and simply

56:41

bombarded them, bombarded them, and now

56:44

the deadline for the prosecutor’s office response was approaching.

56:47

The prosecutor’s office would have been forced to acknowledge

56:49

a violation of the law, so they simply moved

56:51

preemptively, and Shoigu personally struck

56:55

Brilyov from the ministry’s Public

56:58

Council. So congratulations to everyone.

57:01

Congratulations to our lawyers. We still

57:03

remain annoyed by the fact that

57:05

Brilyov is maintained on

57:07

taxpayers’ money, but at least this is something—

57:09

a small but pleasant victory. Doctors—

57:12

greedy, terrible doctors—you know, that’s how

57:17

people in white coats are portrayed.

57:18

They’re supposedly greedy, and that is exactly how

57:23

our authorities treat them. And right now it’s

57:27

extremely interesting—I strongly advise everyone

57:29

to watch how the confrontation is developing

57:31

in one small

57:35

little town in Novgorod Oblast (a region in northwestern Russia),

57:39

.

57:39

In fact, several towns in Novgorod Oblast.

57:42

.

57:42

Not Nizhny Novgorod Oblast—specifically in

57:44

Novgorod Oblast. There, doctors

57:47

have actually even announced that they

57:49

will go on strike, and it’s very interesting.

57:53

It really is a tiny hospital,

57:55

poor and very small, and they simply

58:00

said this out of desperation, even though for many

58:03

many years there have been no strikes at all.

58:06

Naturally, everyone came down on the doctors over this.

58:09

All the local newspapers are writing that no

58:11

strike is going to happen; they published a letter

58:13

from the doctors of this hospital saying that there is no

58:16

strike. But on closer

58:17

inspection, it’s clear that this letter

58:20

was signed by some economist there, that is,

58:22

not by the doctors, but by the chief physician, his

58:25

deputies,

58:25

the hospital economist, and various other

58:27

people like that. It’s an extremely interesting confrontation.

58:30

Let’s first watch 42 seconds of this

58:33

statement.

58:34

from the Doctors’ Alliance trade union saying that

58:36

there will be a strike if by March 16, in

58:39

Okulovka, an additional

58:41

ambulance is not provided,

58:42

the number of hospital beds is not restored to

58:43

last year’s level, and the salaries

58:45

of medical workers do not

58:47

comply with the president’s May decrees (a set of Russian social spending and wage targets announced in May 2012).

58:48

On March 18, medical workers will begin

58:51

a strike and will not work until

58:53

the promises are fulfilled. I am sure

58:56

that the region’s residents will support them and will

58:58

come out and demand decent wages

59:00

for those who treat them and bring them

59:02

health. The rally has been officially authorized, but we

59:08

won’t stop there; next we will

59:10

block federal highways. Together we

59:13

must make sure that medical workers can

59:15

work for the good of the people, rather than thinking about

59:17

how to buy a piece of bread.

59:20

Guys, it’s really important here to listen carefully to

59:23

the doctors’ demands, and it’s astonishing that

59:26

they are demanding this, and the authorities are saying

59:29

no, we won’t do it. They’re not asking for

59:31

some huge salaries for themselves. When I

59:34

heard about the strike, I thought: now I’ll

59:36

look at the demands and see, well,

59:39

the usual bargaining — they announce

59:41

a strike and come out with a whole list of

59:43

demands so that later

59:45

some of them get partially satisfied and something

59:47

gets granted. But what are they actually demanding? I thought they were demanding

59:50

just this: buy us one ambulance.

59:53

They’re not asking for, I don’t know, golden chairs

59:56

or Mercedes cars. They’re asking for

59:59

an ambulance to be bought. My question

1:00:01

to Novgorod Region Governor Nikitin is:

1:00:03

why the hell can’t you buy them

1:00:06

an ambulance? We’re an oil-and-gas

1:00:08

state, we have a budget surplus,

1:00:10

a huge one. If you don’t have enough, then go to

1:00:13

the Health Ministry and say: we have doctors here,

1:00:15

buy an ambulance for them. They are asking for

1:00:18

a salary increase

1:00:21

up to the level guaranteed by the May decrees. That

1:00:23

means that a nurse should be earning

1:00:27

31,000 rubles (about 31,000 RUB)

1:00:28

— not 60,000, not 90,000, not 150,000. They’re saying:

1:00:33

we’re not demanding salaries like in Germany, or even

1:00:37

like in Estonia, or Poland, or

1:00:39

Moscow. They’re not saying that. They’re saying:

1:00:42

guys, could you please

1:00:44

finally stop paying us 15,000 and instead pay us

1:00:46

the 31,000 you promised?

1:00:48

And also buy an ambulance

1:00:50

so that we can transport patients. And they’re told:

1:00:53

no, your demands are unacceptable.

1:00:56

Well, that’s exactly why I’m saying that

1:01:00

we need to watch this

1:01:03

confrontation closely, in this town — or maybe not even a town,

1:01:05

I don’t know, a town, an urban-type settlement, a village —

1:01:07

it’s called Okulovka.

1:01:09

And nearby there’s also Borovichi, Okulovka and

1:01:12

Borovichi too — hospitals there are now in revolt

1:01:14

because they’re being shut down or reorganized.

1:01:17

People have nowhere to get treatment, there are no ambulances,

1:01:20

so accordingly, there’s simply no one

1:01:22

who can even get you to the hospital. Everyone is

1:01:24

furious — local residents and doctors alike. And

1:01:27

it’s very interesting to watch how doctors

1:01:31

are demanding what they need: they should be bought

1:01:33

an ambulance. How else are they supposed to transport

1:01:35

patients? And the governor says no.

1:01:38

You can’t. You scoundrels, your strike is

1:01:40

some kind of political action. We’ll see — if

1:01:44

this strike happens, we will also

1:01:46

cover it in some way. It will be the first

1:01:49

doctors’ strike in many, many years. And again,

1:01:53

since we’ve started talking about the union,

1:01:55

let me show you 43 seconds. This story just

1:01:58

really got to me too; maybe it will

1:02:01

affect you as well.

1:02:02

We get sent a lot of things like this,

1:02:05

about miserably low wages, yes, but this one

1:02:08

caught my attention: nurse

1:02:10

Galina Naumenko. She

1:02:14

is from Rostov Region,

1:02:16

though not from Rostov-on-Don, but from the town of Bataysk. She

1:02:18

works there in a tuberculosis clinic.

1:02:20

Just imagine — a tuberculosis clinic.

1:02:22

That’s the kind of place we’re talking about. Let’s watch her

1:02:23

short video, 43 seconds.

1:02:25

Hello, my name is Naumenko Galina.

1:02:28

I work as a nurse

1:02:30

at the anti-tuberculosis clinic in the city

1:02:32

of Bataysk.

1:02:32

The authorities of Rostov Region report that

1:02:35

that

1:02:36

the president’s May decrees are being successfully

1:02:38

implemented — that is, the salary of junior

1:02:41

medical staff is more than 29,000 rubles.

1:02:44

I honestly try to do my job well,

1:02:47

but my salary

1:02:50

is 7,500 rubles, and with extra payments

1:02:54

it comes to 10,500.

1:02:56

So it turns out that for my work I receive

1:02:59

less than the subsistence minimum.

1:03:01

Please support me and the other hospital employees

1:03:03

in our fight for the salary that

1:03:06

we are entitled to by law.

1:03:08

Thank you. Well, you can see that this is

1:03:11

a real nurse. She really is one.

1:03:14

Not just in name — anyone who has been to a

1:03:15

regional hospital knows: that’s what a nurse looks like.

1:03:18

She’s a nurse, not some planted person or anything like that.

1:03:20

But I didn’t just show you some person there.

1:03:23

With that tiny salary, you know what really got to me?

1:03:24

What finished me off was that she earns less than the subsistence minimum.

1:03:28

Less than the subsistence minimum, and for a long time they were paying her that way.

1:03:31

Only when she started complaining and writing letters

1:03:33

to the relevant authorities did it become clear this was completely illegal.

1:03:35

You cannot pay less than the subsistence minimum,

1:03:38

especially considering that

1:03:39

she was actually supposed to be paid 29,000 rubles,

1:03:42

but instead she was getting 10,600.

1:03:43

And do you know what they replied? They said, well, you see,

1:03:47

once she had already complained everywhere,

1:03:49

now our bureaucracy has gotten involved,

1:03:51

and it turns out it was just a mistake,

1:03:54

in 1C Accounting (a popular Russian accounting software program).

1:03:59

The software made an error, and that’s why

1:04:02

you were paid less. But now we’ll

1:04:05

add another 1,500 rubles so that you cross this

1:04:08

poverty threshold, you see. I mean, come on.

1:04:13

It was obviously clear that they were deliberately paying

1:04:17

these people starvation wages because

1:04:19

they needed to spend the money on something else,

1:04:21

I don’t know, maybe on media coverage

1:04:23

of the governor’s work and

1:04:25

buying him yet another Mercedes,

1:04:28

because the old ones apparently don’t drive

1:04:30

fast enough. And when they get caught doing this,

1:04:32

they just say, here, take this.

1:04:35

Keeping a person below the subsistence minimum? A mistake.

1:04:37

A 1C Accounting error. Okay, here’s 1,500 rubles

1:04:40

added on. There it is, there it is—

1:04:44

that’s the real Russophobia. This is done by people who

1:04:48

hate everyone, and in particular a nurse

1:04:52

from the city of Bataysk. And Russia has

1:04:56

one main problem.

1:04:57

German Gref, today—literally today—

1:05:01

gave an astonishing answer at some forum,

1:05:04

at yet another forum. What was it? It was the

1:05:06

forum

1:05:06

“Leaders of Russia,” where people gathered who are

1:05:09

supposedly Russia’s leaders. Meaning, we’re loafers,

1:05:11

alcoholics, while they are the leaders of Russia. So, the leaders

1:05:13

of Russia gathered, and German Gref

1:05:15

was asked:

1:05:16

“Please tell us, what are the main, key

1:05:18

problems of our country?” And Gref said something

1:05:22

rather dangerous. He began: “I won’t name

1:05:24

several; I’ll tell you one main

1:05:27

problem that exists in Russia.” And everyone

1:05:30

held their breath.

1:05:31

And of course it seems like

1:05:32

he’s about to say: Putin.

1:05:35

But rationally, you understand that he’s not

1:05:37

going to say Putin. He’ll say something very

1:05:40

vague, like a lack of

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economic growth,

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as well as low population mobility combined

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with low

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labor productivity. But German Gref

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went surprisingly hard on this one and

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really surprised us. Let’s listen to his 36 seconds.

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My name is Andrei Knysh, and I have the following

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question: what are the three most important

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root problems that currently

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exist in Russia?

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“All right, let’s do one.”

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“The absence of a system—

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an effective system of state

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governance. That is the main thing. If this problem

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is solved, all the others will be

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overcome automatically. That is why I

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am deeply convinced of this.”

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That was it.

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Did you hear how everyone in the hall laughed?

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As if to say, sure, there’s one problem, got it.

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If you read between the lines, Gref was plainly

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saying exactly this: the absence of

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an effective enough system of

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governance.

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And who has been in power here for twenty years?

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Excuse me, who are the very people

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who built this system of state

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governance? Built it and built it and built it

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for 20 years—and this is what they built.

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They made billions, built their dachas (country houses), and then—

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bam.

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After 20 years, the country’s top banker,

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the country’s

1:07:10

the head of the bank that underpins practically the entire

1:07:13

Russian economy, the whole banking system of Russia—

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and that’s Sberbank—says that in Russia

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there is one problem: the absence of a system

1:07:21

of effective state governance. Translated

1:07:23

into plain Russian, that means:

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Putin is a bad president.

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And when this problem is resolved,

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then everything here will be just fine.

1:07:34

So, essentially, German Gref—

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when he was a minister, he was part of

1:07:38

this ineffective system.

1:07:39

He publicly supports Putin, and

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therefore he continues to support this

1:07:44

system. But these astonishing

1:07:46

moments, these flashes of candor,

1:07:49

are amazing even at an official forum.

1:07:52

Even official bankers are basically saying to each other:

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“The camera isn’t really catching this, right?

1:07:58

What’s the problem? These officials of ours—

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they’re just bad officials. Our state is being

1:08:04

poorly governed.” We got it.

1:08:08

We understood who you were talking about, dear

1:08:11

German Gref. And to finish, some poetry.

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Though I won’t be the one reciting it. I’m no poet,

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I can’t write verse. But someone who can

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is

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Natalia Poklonskaya’s husband. It turns out

1:08:25

Natalia Poklonskaya has a husband, and he

1:08:28

was offended that on the previous program I

1:08:29

called Natalia Poklonskaya “Natusik” (a cutesy diminutive of Natalia) and mocked her.

1:08:31

And they held a press conference

1:08:33

dedicated to Natalia Poklonskaya’s book, but

1:08:37

it turned out that the press conference was

1:08:40

effectively dedicated to me, because

1:08:41

he just couldn’t let it go.

1:08:44

So Ivan Solovyov, Poklonskaya’s husband,

1:08:46

couldn’t take it and wrote

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poems about me: “Lyokha has a crush on Natusik…”

1:08:53

But never mind that—on to the fight against corruption.

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He’s always ready. I—I just won’t be able to...

1:09:00

read this with proper expression because

1:09:02

I’ll start laughing like crazy and keep stumbling over the words.

1:09:03

Let’s just listen. Natalia

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Poklonskaya and her husband wrote poems about Alexei

1:09:12

which somehow, completely unintentionally, produced this masterpiece.

1:09:15

It was born.

1:09:16

A poem was born. I’ll read it out. It’s called

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It’s called: “Evidence, map, little mutt, people...”

1:09:27

“...collapse, hanging out”—but that’s not the point. In the fight against

1:09:31

corruption, he’s always ready there,

1:09:34

and nobody needs some enormous junk.

1:09:36

Personal information, who has how much...

1:09:38

By the end of the program, basically, about himself...

1:09:41

As for the actual matter, some full list—he

1:09:44

should announce it publicly. How devastating.

1:09:46

Master of Poland on the shore... you really didn’t think this through.

1:09:49

All the way to the very end.

1:09:51

Don’t think too much about the x’s.

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Their day is full; from him, just slop, but also...

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thrown together against it, without yeast.

1:09:59

Charlie, splash it around, that’ll do.

1:10:02

I agree—what an honest guy you are.

1:10:05

to demonstrate once per regiment on the second...

1:10:08

little ball.

1:10:09

Great. Take all of that, a little bit there...

1:10:12

someone willing to pat him on the head for it. But if

1:10:14

little Alexei keeps mocking my wife, then he may

1:10:18

lose his manly dignity too.

1:10:20

Investigating corruption is not the same as plowing a field.

1:10:22

Love, high ratings...

1:10:24

be proud, let it drop—but God forbid Alexei’s

1:10:28

...whatever she was doing—if they come by their own

1:10:32

territory. Hello everyone. That will surpass this.

1:10:35

Hello, Alexei Navalny, wave...

1:10:39

God forbid, Alexei, that your people come to power.

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I don’t even know. Isn’t this, like...

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isn’t it flattering, I mean, that Natalia Poklonskaya

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and her husband sit there reading poetry and

1:10:51

discussing it, thinking about beauty in the sequel?

1:10:54

“Enormous thingamajig”—yes, I suppose I find

1:10:58

this situation, you know, kind of... well, yes, it’s

1:11:01

very strange. I’d like to stay

1:11:04

as far away as possible from this couple’s fantasies.

1:11:06

However, I am prepared, and I will by no means

1:11:11

under any circumstances call Natalia

1:11:13

Poklonskaya some kind of “collapse-mutt”; I will

1:11:15

refer to her exclusively as the respected

1:11:17

Deputy Poklonskaya—well, if she

1:11:19

finally does announce the whole

1:11:21

list—that is, comes out and says:

1:11:23

“Just as I wrote in my book, I have

1:11:26

compromising material on deputies. They have

1:11:27

real estate in France and elsewhere.

1:11:29

These deputies—I am initiating

1:11:32

proceedings to remove them. Get out of here,

1:11:35

out of my State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament).”

1:11:36

“I am Natalia Poklonskaya,

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a real deputy, not some kind of

1:11:40

‘collapse-party girl.’” That’s what I’m waiting for. I’d like

1:11:43

the next brilliant poem from this

1:11:46

married couple to lash not only

1:11:48

me—you can target me too, okay—but also those

1:11:51

very deputies on whom there is

1:11:54

compromising material. We’re ending our program with a 22-

1:11:59

second amazing clip from the series

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“How Moscow Has Improved”

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under Sergei Semyonovich Sobyanin. You know how

1:12:09

Sergei Semyonovich works, right? Well,

1:12:11

Moscow has a gigantic budget—just imagine,

1:12:13

a trillion rubles, a sea of money. We can

1:12:16

just throw this money around like this, and still

1:12:18

it won’t run out. All the country’s money is in Moscow.

1:12:20

Moscow has purchased an enormous amount of

1:12:24

various equipment. Sergei Semyonovich introduced

1:12:27

a system so that in every—down there—in

1:12:31

every KamAZ truck, every snowplow,

1:12:33

every bus, there is a

1:12:35

GLONASS system, and this GLONASS system

1:12:38

shows that the equipment is moving, and if

1:12:41

some KamAZ driver suddenly

1:12:44

decides to slack off,

1:12:45

then the GLONASS system will see that he’s being lazy,

1:12:48

and then the dispatcher will punish him.

1:12:50

That way, Sergei Semyonovich Sobyanin

1:12:54

doesn’t let himself be deceived and uses

1:12:58

taxpayers’ money efficiently.

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He organized such a great, effective system.

1:13:04

Let’s take a look at how it

1:13:07

works.

1:13:31

Well, everything is just great: the vehicle is moving, GLONASS

1:13:34

is tracking it, the fuel is burning, wages are

1:13:37

being paid out—high technology, everything

1:13:40

is excellent. To make sure this stops happening,

1:13:43

take part, folks, in Smart Voting

1:13:46

in the September elections to the Moscow

1:13:47

City Duma. Let’s at least try

1:13:49

to push as many United Russia members as possible

1:13:52

out of the Moscow City Duma.

1:13:53

Because otherwise—otherwise they’ll just keep driving

1:13:56

and driving and driving. See you

1:13:59

next Thursday.

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