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8:18 p.m. in Moscow. Alexei Navalny's studio.

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Or a person who quite plainly does not

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match the political scale and

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of the largest country in the world, as one

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Kremlin political analyst once called me. I am

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very, very glad to be with you, because

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by all my calculations,

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and not just mine, most

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observers were assuring me that over the next

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three episodes at least, I would not be able to host

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this program because I would be spending time in

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a special detention center. Nevertheless, that did not

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happen. Something I don't quite understand

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took place: on the 28th, I was detained and

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I was preparing to go away for 30 days, but

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then suddenly they released me, having confiscated

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my phone, and now

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the astonishing thing is that, in effect, I

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am now trying to get the police and those who are

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handling this to do something already—come on, put me on trial

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at last—but they don't want to. My lawyer

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comes, and they don't give her a single document.

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They still haven't given me a copy of the police report

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in hand. When the court hearing will be, they say, is unknown. But

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apparently the plan is quite simple:

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not to lock me up now, because if

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they lock me up now, I'll be out in 30

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days—that is, roughly speaking, by March 1. They need to

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put me away in such a way that I

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am jailed right before the election,

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on voting day, or better yet, on the day

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of the vote—or better still, so that I spend the whole

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of March sitting in a detention center, because

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for some reason Putin seems to think that if

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they throw me in jail then, you will work less

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and the headquarters will, let's say,

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lose the momentum of our strike. That

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most definitely will not happen. Just

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be prepared for the fact that after some

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time, other people will be replacing me on this broadcast.

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That's nothing страшного—after all,

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they've already jailed all the hosts of

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*Cactus* (a Russian political talk show); we found people who

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could replace them, and they'll replace me too. Everything will be

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completely fine.

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Great job—well done to everyone who took part in

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the January 28 protest.

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It was really cool, it was

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simply wonderful,

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just amazing. People are asking me here in the chat

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how I assess the results of the protest. I assess

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the results this way: you and I

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have seen for ourselves

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that we have created a living political network. The

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protest took place in 118 cities across Russia, and

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in 27 of them, we didn't even really understand

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who exactly was organizing it or how it was being organized. In

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most of the country, it was already

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for the most part terribly

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cold. In 26 cities, the protests were

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not authorized at all, and nevertheless

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they still took place. That means that you and I,

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my friends, did not pour 225 million rubles (about US$4 million at the time) into

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some unknown void, but built

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a real political network. In some places

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more people come out, in others

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fewer people come out.

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When only a few come out, of course you wish

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more had come—but one way or another, it works. We

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come up with something and decide together:

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let's hold a nationwide protest. We

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press the launch button here, and

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it starts working—this

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nervous system, signals pass through it, and

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in every city people do something. No one

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forces these people, no one

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pays them. They themselves understand

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that they are part of this living political

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system. That is the most important thing. But still,

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protests—and politics in this country in general—

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have to be understood by comparison. We have

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a country that is, in principle, very inert, and

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in general, doing anything here in terms of

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politics is very difficult, especially

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when it comes to holding mass protests. What can we compare it to?

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Well, I made a note of something just now,

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simply out of curiosity: the Communists

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are holding a nationwide protest for

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social justice in February, and on the 3rd

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of February they announced there would be

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a nationwide protest. It's not that

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I want to laugh at

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the Communists or troll them—let's

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just look. This is the country's second-largest

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political force, which

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receives billions of rubles from the state budget,

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and has deputies in every federal subject (region)

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of the federation.

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There are deputies in every city; this is

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hundreds of thousands of members. In the State Duma (Russia's lower house of parliament), they have

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had a faction for many, many years; they had black

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cars and

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even flashing lights, or used to have them, and all that.

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But just watch: their

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nationwide protest will take place,

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and compare it with our nationwide protest.

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They are happening at roughly the same time,

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so you can't really blame it on the weather,

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and you will see that you and I

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have created the largest truly

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existing living political network

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in the country. Usually, how does it happen?

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There was an election, or some party-building effort,

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a ton of money was spent, and then all

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of it just dissolved and ceased to exist.

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But that's not how it is with us. We built this thing, and it

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works for us. That is a very great

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achievement. This network does not belong to me,

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it does not belong to the Anti-Corruption Foundation, and it does not

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even belong to the election campaign headquarters.

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It belongs to you. I am very glad

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that this is exactly how you see it,

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that you use it, take part in it, go out

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and do all of this. It is

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simply amazing. We are, of course,

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naturally seeing quite a

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brisk reaction from the authorities to the creation of it.

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this network and the work of this network, this is

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a pretty brisk reaction, and it shows up in

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all kinds of ways in the regions right now

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let me look at the statistics now, quite a

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a lot of people have been prosecuted

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by now, people have already been unlawfully brought to

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liability; as for those arrested, we have

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probably around 40 people already, which is quite

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a lot of people who have been fined

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illegally. In other words, they’re afraid of us. For me personally,

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it was quite difficult to make it to

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Tverskaya Street on January 28. It was a whole kind of

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either a second-rate action movie or

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a comedy, because after me, because of

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the head of the Anti-Corruption Foundation

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the campaign chief

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Roman Rubanov, and the campaign chief

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Leonid Volkov, after our chief

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lawyer Ivan Zhdanov, on the eve of any

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actions there was this really very tight

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surveillance: too many people, too many cars, every

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your

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every one of your steps is monitored, but

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I really wanted to get to the rally

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because I was there on March 26, but at all the other

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rallies I didn’t even manage to attend, because I was

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always detained at home. At some point I said

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to myself,

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“Alexei, please try, even if

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despite the fact that you’ll have to do

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these fairly comical things, act like you’re

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running from a chase, please try

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to make it to Tverskaya on the 28th after all.” I

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managed it, but really, in fact, it

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looked like some kind of second-rate

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action movie, except nobody was killing anyone and

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nothing was exploding. I was on Sanders

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somehow jumping out of a car, into the metro

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literally running away from surveillance, and these

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people who are following you, at first they

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pretend they’re just walking and don’t

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notice you, then they literally suddenly

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start running; you jump into a metro car, and they

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jump in after you. If anyone

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ever, I don’t know, gets footage from

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the metro’s surveillance cameras from the

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exact moment when I escaped into

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the metro from that tail,

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it will be very funny. And really, you’re

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literally running and thinking, “My God, you’re forty

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one years old, and basically you’re a lawyer, you do

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serious work, but on the other hand, somehow

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as I was running I thought, well, this is probably what

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they call an interesting life. In any

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case, I was very happy that I at least

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managed to be on Tverskaya Street, even if only briefly

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The nearest police officer who

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saw me recognized me, of course—I could clearly see it

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—reported it immediately, then this bus pulled up and these

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“cosmonauts” (slang for riot police in full gear) detained me. But still,

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that running around the metro, then two days

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of not sleeping at home, the phone and

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it all added up into this rather

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strange and low-grade spy

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story. But nevertheless, as a

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result of all that, on the 28th I managed to go out

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into the street, see all of you, and together with

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you walk at least a few hundred meters

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which I was very glad about. In the regions, people are also being

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cracked down on. Why? Because they’re afraid. But I’m

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very glad to see that they haven’t

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intimidated anyone at all, and they haven’t managed

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to scare people, even though there are some pretty unpleasant, fairly

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long administrative

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sentences being handed down—some people get 30

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days; a coordinator in St. Petersburg received

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20 days in Kaliningrad

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but nevertheless, no one is giving up, no one

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is afraid, everyone is participating, and everyone

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understands the value of this, our

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political network, and how one needs to work in it

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I remind you that you can

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write to me using the hashtag #Navalny2018

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ask questions, so send in your questions and

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I’ll answer them

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Alex RM asks me: what do you think,

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is it realistic in the near future to organize

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a rally comparable in size to

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Bolotnaya in 2012? It is realistic

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Well, as you remember, Bolotnaya in 2012 was

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an authorized rally. Actually,

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that’s why, since what year now,

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probably since 2014 or even 2013,

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not a single rally for our specific group has been

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approved. That is,

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they either send us off somewhere temporarily

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to Maryino or Shchukino (districts in Moscow), or somewhere else, or

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we hold an unauthorized rally

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because they’re afraid. If we had a month

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to prepare such an authorized event

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—and authorized events always draw

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an order of magnitude more people—then I think, of course,

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it would be possible. The authorities are simply afraid of that

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and that is exactly why they don’t allow it

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Even unauthorized rallies draw

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20,000 or 30,000 people there, but if you

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translate that into a legal

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version, a fully legal, properly

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authorized one, then that’s your Bolotnaya

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right there

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41 people

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have currently received administrative

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arrest; others have been fined, and so on. They are very,

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very afraid of any of our actions

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Something completely comical came in today

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—news that indeed

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this information has been verified

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Recently, some initial reports simply started appearing online

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saying that in Russia’s regions

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where banners with Putin are hanging, you can see

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those traditional campaign banners

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with Putin, and

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police cars are parked there. People noticed

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this and started looking into it, and it turned out

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that police officers are literally guarding those

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banners. All of Novokuznetsk is talking about it

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There’s been yet another confirmation that this is indeed the case:

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the police are guarding

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Putin campaign billboards so that no one

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writes “thief” on them, because that’s

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what’s happening in some regions. And just

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imagine what

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Russian police officers must feel, those who

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took an oath, those officers

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who believe they’re doing something

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useful with their lives—and then they have to spend the whole

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night sitting in a car. And very often they’re even asked

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to do it in unmarked civilian cars,

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in plain clothes, guarding

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a billboard of the “beloved by all” Vladimir

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Vladimirovich Putin so that no one

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comes up to it and writes

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“thief” on it with spray paint. You know what to do.

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So yes—but you can spot them: if

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there’s some car nearby and below it

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two people are standing guard, then that’s

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the police. Our leaflets—fine, the billboards—but our

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leaflets are simply ordinary

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guerrilla-style flyers, and they’re considered so

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dangerous that the election commissions

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in a number of regions have said that

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they are criminal. Today in Mozdok, Rosberg, AMV—

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the Investigative Committee was asked

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to determine whether

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these leaflets might

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constitute a criminal offense.

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Can you imagine the level of panic they’re in

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simply because you’re printing

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these leaflets and posting them in apartment building entrances?

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Today Ella Pamfilova once again

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greatly surprised us by saying

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that

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of course no one has the right

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to campaign for a boycott—or rather, some

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people do have the right to campaign for a boycott,

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but to do that they must be registered candidates,

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Ella Pamfilova said.

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It’s an astonishing construct. In other words, for me,

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an ordinary

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average Kolya Ivanov, a citizen of Russia,

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to say, “I do not recognize these

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elections, I urge everyone not to go to these

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elections,” I first have to register

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as a presidential candidate and open

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an election campaign account.

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And from that campaign account, Kolya

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Ivanov would have to pay for a leaflet

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that he prints on his home printer.

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That is utterly absurd.

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Anyway, we’ve made a new leaflet,

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by the way,

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one that Pamfilova really shouldn’t

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have any complaints about. Our lawyers removed

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everything that could even theoretically

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contradict the law. Look: there is no

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word “Putin” here, there is no campaigning

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for or against any candidate—nothing of the sort.

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It simply says: “You don’t matter to them. Don’t go.”

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And surely everyone has the right to do that without any

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restrictions. Go to the boycott website;

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the link will be in the description of this video, and

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print them and distribute them. We would like to have a dialogue with Ella

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Pamfilova

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both on the issue of campaigning and on the issue of

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election monitoring, because she

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has said many, many times—and when I

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was at the Central Election Commission and she was refusing

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to register me, she said to the young people there,

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“These are young guys, they’re such good

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kids. Navalny, that scoundrel, has filled their heads with nonsense, but

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you’re such good young people, just very

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mistaken, and I’m ready

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to meet with you, ready to talk, ready

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to have a dialogue, and together we’ll

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work something out.” Well then, dear

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Ella Aleksandrovna, we very much want to

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meet with you. We have a whole

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delegation—Leonid Volkov, Ivan Zhdanov, and I—and we

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really do want to, without any

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jokes, without trolling, without any

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antics. It’s not that we’re inviting you

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to our office—we understand you won’t come,

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that you’ll be afraid of what we might do to you—

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but yes, we would like to hold

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a meeting in order to understand

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why you consider our leaflets

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illegal, even though that directly contradicts

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current law, and in general

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what is happening with election monitoring.

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Monitoring is important to us. Everyone asks

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what we are going to do now, whether we clearly understand

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our plan. We do clearly understand

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our plan. There are

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about 45 days left until voting day, a little more, and

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our main task for these 45 days is

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organizing election monitoring. We are

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boycotting these elections, we are campaigning against them, but

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we are also monitoring them. In the description of this

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video there is a link—the usual one,

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Navalny 2018—and it will go live tonight.

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Tonight, there will already be

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a special form there. Those watching this

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broadcast not live, but

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tomorrow, the day after, and so on—go there.

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We are registering observers there. You

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can fill out your form

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and choose the polling station

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closest to you, or we will suggest

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another one. This is critically important.

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Why? Because turnout is falsified.

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Who among you believes in 99 percent turnout in

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the North Caucasus? Who among you believes in 83

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percent

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in Bashkiria (Bashkortostan)? None of you

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believes that Novosibirsk Region

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and Kemerovo Region, which are right next to each other,

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with basically the same people living close by,

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and yet, amazingly, in

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Novosibirsk Region, 40 percent fewer

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people take part in the election. That

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is simply impossible in principle. But we

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understand that these votes are falsified.

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That is why we are now announcing a large-scale

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recruitment drive for election observers, especially in the regions.

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To be honest, here in Moscow we expect

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turnout figures to be falsified, but in the regions even more so

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we expect especially heavy falsification

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of turnout in the Moscow region

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and, naturally, in the Volga region and Tatarstan

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Bashkortostan, Mordovia, and of course the North

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Caucasus, and it is precisely in the regions that we will

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be working—first and foremost in St. Petersburg

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By the way, from what I've been told, not

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a single election in St. Petersburg has ever taken place without

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such blatant, massive, and brazen

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fraud. So

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I am announcing a real call for election observers

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a real call, not the usual thing where

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it's something like 3,000 people in Moscow, 1

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thousand in St. Petersburg, and 500 across the whole

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country. No.

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We are determined to train thousands and thousands

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tens of thousands of people across the country

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deploy them, and collect

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their data and process it. We are going to do this

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because we understand perfectly well that old man

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Putin, in order to show his

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70 percent turnout, in order to

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stage a nationwide victory, needs to

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falsify

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the voting results. And we will fight

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that falsification together with you. I mean,

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I won't be able to do it alone from Moscow, from this studio

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Come join us—we'll fight together.

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So, questions. Let's put some questions up.

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And please tell me, has Belykh

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already been sentenced or not?

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No, not yet, as far as I can see. Yes,

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they're asking how badly

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the studio was trashed. Well, I don't know how it looks

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on your screens—I probably look rather

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harsh right now, and that's because

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the studio really was pretty badly

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wrecked. They took away, again,

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cameras, computers, and so we've got a terrible

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mess going on. In fact, the first

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episodes on Navalny Live or on Cactus

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in the news—you saw them—they were not just

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slightly yellowish; it was like

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the hosts looked like little chicks

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sitting in the studio, because we were simply

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filming with ordinary cheap webcams

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at first. But now we've somehow

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managed to get some equipment, rented some,

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kind people brought some in, and we

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are continuing to raise funds for

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Operation Phoenix—that is, an operation

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of revival. They rob us, and we want to show

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that despite the fact that they blocked

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our legal entity and froze 2 million

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300 thousand rubles (about 2.3 million rubles)

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despite the fact that once again they've

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cleaned us out of our equipment, we will still be able to

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recover and still be able

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to keep working, and I hope you will

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help us. During the last broadcast I raised

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about 200,000 rubles

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The live broadcast on January 28 raised

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1 million 700 thousand rubles—800 thousand

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rubles—they're telling me, actually 1 million 400

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thousand rubles. So we will keep raising money

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until we collect this amount—2 million 300 thousand

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exactly the amount that was blocked in our

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account.

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Jeffrey asks sincerely:

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I support you, but are we going to use

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other methods of nonviolent

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resistance—not just rallies?

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Well, Jeffrey, people ask about this often:

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will you use other

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methods? What methods, Jeffrey? Of course we

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will use everything we intend

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to do already. As I already said,

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we are organizing election monitoring—that is

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the main line of work. Campaigning is

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another main line of work. We are trying

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to make our campaigning more sophisticated, more

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systematic, but given how they crack down on it,

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of course

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an ordinary person who prints something out

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on a printer and puts it up in their apartment building is

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the main tool of campaigning. That is what we

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will be doing. In principle, any

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methods—we want to, are ready to, and will

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use them. But we need to be

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inventive. People very often write:

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When are you going to do graffiti? When are you

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going to do, I don't know,

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art photography, and so on? But

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guys, all of that can be done, but still

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if we're talking about graffiti, we can

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hire or find a volunteer who

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will make one great piece of graffiti on

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some cool wall in Moscow

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but that isn't systematic work. We want

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to do things in which, if not all

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volunteers can take part, then at least

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a significant share of them can—things that matter

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things that thousands of people can do. Thousands

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of people still can't just go and paint graffiti

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you need skill, talent, a spray can, and

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everything else. So if there are some cool

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exotic, effective methods

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but individual ones, then please use them

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yourselves. You don't need my team or

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my blessing, as if I have to

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approve it so that some graffiti saying

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"Aristov" or whatever can be painted somewhere—go ahead, well done.

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Anything you feel capable of, anything

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that can be done to fight this vile

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regime—do it. We will try

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to do the more systematic things, which is

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what

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our organization is for. Vladimir

21:47

asks: when will there be car stickers with

21:49

the boycott message? We are making car stickers, well

21:51

but they confiscate them. We make them, but

21:54

we'll make stickers again and spend the money again. Khalif Ul

21:59

asks: President Vladimir Putin

22:00

spent a billion rubles on his election campaign

22:02

exceeding the legal limit several times over. How

22:05

do you think—will Putin report himself for that?

22:06

On the subject of the elections, what do you think?

22:10

Putin has effectively exempted himself from real participation in the election, right?

22:12

There was an investigation in *Sobesednik* (a Russian newspaper) where

22:15

a reporter simply sat down and calculated

22:16

how much Putin, formally speaking, should have spent on all this

22:19

and came up with about 1 billion rubles

22:21

while the maximum size

22:23

of an election fund is 400 million rubles

22:25

but I’d say it was actually much

22:28

more than 1 billion rubles. Well yes, it

22:30

isn’t even really possible to calculate it all.

22:32

All the TV channels, all the news programs, just nonstop

22:35

— all of it devoted to him, even back in 2018.

22:38

Everything is working for Putin.

22:42

Just think: how much do those top

22:44

hosts on the *Vremya* news program cost? It’s impossible

22:47

to calculate. His election campaign has swallowed the entire country.

22:50

It’s the use

22:53

of the whole country. As I understand it, this weekend

22:54

they’re starting their pro-Putin events

22:58

all across the country — that is, rallies

23:01

that, as we can see, are happening in huge

23:02

numbers.

23:03

They’re herding students there again, herding

23:06

state employees there again. Calculate how much that costs.

23:08

Calculate how much the police cost, the police who

23:10

were running around there, chasing me, Volkov, Rubanov,

23:14

and

23:14

and really people all across the country. It’s

23:16

tens of billions of rubles.

23:18

The entire country’s economy is now working

23:21

to help Putin re-elect himself.

23:23

It’s all very sad, so there’s really

23:27

— Shershavy or Seshcha, however you come up with

23:29

these nicknames — asks:

23:33

“What do you think about the list

23:34

of Putin’s trusted representatives? Do these people

23:36

bear moral responsibility for

23:37

supporting Putin?”

23:38

“Is public condemnation of

23:40

these people necessary, regardless of the awards they’ve received

23:42

for their loyalty to Putin?” You put it correctly:

23:44

they are indeed his widowed—

23:45

No, of course they are not Putin’s

23:47

trusted representatives — it’s disgusting, very disgusting

23:48

to watch. Some people, even elderly

23:52

people — my God, Yevgeny Petrosyan (a well-known Russian comedian) is there. Why

23:55

does he need this? Some athletes,

23:59

some actors, and in general even fairly

24:02

distinguished people whom we might have considered

24:03

decent people — and there they are, standing there

24:07

on their hind legs for him. Recently there was again some kind of gathering

24:09

of these trusted representatives.

24:11

It’s revolting to watch. Of course these

24:14

people should be subjected to

24:15

public condemnation, regardless

24:18

of their awards. They can’t tell us, in effect,

24:20

“Look, I’m an honored film artist,”

24:23

or “I’m an honored doctor,” or “I’m an honored

24:25

athlete, I won three Olympics.”

24:27

You won three Olympics yesterday, and today

24:31

you helped rob a hospital, today you stole from

24:34

orphans, because you support Putin.

24:37

And your Putin, through his oligarchs and

24:40

through his friends, is robbing the healthcare system

24:43

to the point where it’s impossible to get even bandages

24:46

in some rural hospital. In fact,

24:49

that is exactly how things are. These people

24:52

who support Putin, together with

24:56

him, are robbing the people, and they bear direct

24:59

responsibility for everything that is happening.

25:01

They bear responsibility for these

25:03

run-down schools; they bear

25:05

responsibility for the terrible roads; they are responsible

25:07

for all of it, because

25:08

Putin has been in power for 18 years. If it had been four

25:12

years, or even at least eight, then maybe you could

25:14

still blame Yeltsin

25:15

or the “cursed ’90s” or Gorbachev and so on. But

25:19

he has been there longer than Gorbachev and

25:20

Yeltsin combined, so

25:23

together with this whole gang

25:25

of trusted representatives, of course they bear direct

25:27

responsibility for what is happening in the

25:29

country. My next topic was

25:31

Nikita Belykh, who, as I understand it,

25:34

still hasn’t been sentenced. Well, let me

25:37

say a couple of words on that anyway.

25:43

Well, I don’t know how much time they’ll give him after all.

25:50

I haven’t spoken to him in a long time. The last time

25:53

I talked to him was probably in 2009. Before that

25:56

we of course had friendly,

25:58

companionable relations. We diverged quite

26:00

sharply in our views on things.

26:03

I certainly feel no gloating

26:05

now, looking at how he

26:09

is sitting in that cell, looking at this whole

26:12

trial, the witness testimony. He also seems to be

26:15

experiencing fairly serious

26:16

health problems. Well, I don’t know exactly what

26:23

happened there. All the people mentioned in

26:27

these materials — there aren’t that many names —

26:30

I’m not even acquainted with them.

26:31

All these events happened

26:33

after I had left. I can say

26:35

only one thing: of course it’s a pity that Belykh

26:40

was swallowed by this system, and it’s a pity he didn’t

26:43

leave in 2013, when — well, you

26:48

can see the photo there — and he, well,

26:52

he seemed like this rather gray

26:53

democratic, opposition-minded governor,

26:55

but then, after all — if you live with wolves,

26:57

you howl like a wolf.

26:59

He started playing his own games

27:02

with all these vile

27:04

characters, making friends — or pretending to make friends —

27:07

and constantly talking about how

27:09

civil society can be wrong too, and

27:12

why are you criticizing the authorities? He probably thought

27:15

that this made him somehow, well,

27:17

untouchable. It’s a pity it turned out this way.

27:22

Probably if he had left that system of power in

27:23

2013, then probably

27:26

what happened to him would not have happened.

27:28

On the other hand, it’s easy to get in and hard to get out.

27:31

And getting out — I don’t know how possible it really was

27:32

to leave from there. But in any case, I

27:35

really do feel sorry about it. I hope not too much.

27:37

He’s going to get some long sentence; he’s already...

27:39

He’s been sitting in pretrial detention (SIZO, a Russian remand prison) for two years, in my view, and I can

27:43

express only

27:45

deep, deep regret about the fact

27:47

that this happened to him. It’s strange that even now

27:52

there still, still isn’t

27:56

still no verdict at all. So,

27:59

people are writing to me here saying, I hope the St. Petersburg headquarters

28:01

won’t be shut down; they’re constantly putting pressure on us.

28:03

The coordinator of the St. Petersburg headquarters got 30

28:05

days, and several other people from

28:06

the St. Petersburg headquarters were arrested. Come on, guys, could you

28:09

even theoretically imagine

28:11

a situation where the St. Petersburg headquarters would shut down because of that?

28:13

It’s the most incredible headquarters overall; in St. Petersburg,

28:16

the most amazing rally took place

28:20

on January 28, and St. Petersburg now, of course, in terms of its

28:23

protest potential in its own way—well, it’s

28:27

just a fantastic city. I went there

28:29

when we were just starting to discuss the rally

28:32

on the 28th, and I said, so, guys, what’s the situation there?

28:34

Most likely, you’ll be denied permission.

28:36

The authorities are set up in such a way that thinking about

28:38

getting a rally officially approved

28:40

isn’t really necessary for us at all. We don’t need anyone’s permission;

28:43

even if they did give permission here, we’d

28:46

still go to an unauthorized one anyway. So

28:47

in that sense, the mood in St. Petersburg is really great,

28:50

and St. Petersburg has once again, like sometime

28:53

in the late 1990s, the late 1980s,

28:57

and early 1990s, become

28:58

in this sense a leading city overall,

29:02

a leading city for the Russian opposition,

29:03

a leading protest city. That’s wonderful,

29:07

really wonderful, really cool. So,

29:10

they’re asking about Belykh. Is it true

29:12

—tell me if I understand correctly—

29:13

that the case against him was fabricated? I don’t understand why.

29:17

I’m not up to speed on it, but I want to look into it.

29:19

The verdict takes seven hours to read—I don’t know

29:20

whether it was fabricated or not. To be honest with you, I’m not

29:23

going to get involved in that case, and I’m not

29:27

going to sort it out there. Even when

29:29

I fundamentally do not intend to get into

29:31

all of this, I don’t know any of the people involved.

29:35

I myself was tried by the same kind of judges,

29:39

including judges in Kirov,

29:42

and it’s impossible to get any justice from these judges.

29:44

Whether you’re right or guilty, it’s impossible to achieve justice.

29:46

So I don’t know what happened there; I can

29:49

only, on a human level, regret that

29:53

this is happening. Maxim Alexeyevich asks:

29:55

Alexei, are there plans to shut down anything else?

29:57

No, for now nothing is planned to be shut down anywhere.

29:59

Because the headquarters are

30:02

the network of our Voters’ Strike campaign, and we

30:04

have cut some positions.

30:06

For example, right now we don’t need

30:08

to verify signatures. We had

30:10

special operators for that system, and we’re

30:12

reducing them. But we’re also raising fewer

30:13

donations. By the way, please send

30:16

us donations and support the Voters’ Strike.

30:18

That network costs money.

30:21

Renting headquarters costs money, so we

30:25

maintain exactly as much as you

30:28

send us in donations. We have

30:30

one single source of income.

30:32

Based on the current, the current

30:37

transfers, we see that until the election we

30:39

will try not to reduce our network,

30:42

not to cut it back, not to close it down.

30:44

Some local offices, though, may

30:46

close or may not close.

30:47

They are maintained

30:49

by the enthusiasts themselves—they either keep them going or they don’t.

30:51

But despite the monstrous

30:54

pressure that exists right now, we

30:56

will try not to shut anything down. So,

30:59

Alexei, I’m begging you, I’m begging you,

31:01

please come up with a clear, normal,

31:04

clear—put it in all caps if you want—clear agenda for

31:07

people: against corruption, fair elections.

31:08

These are such vague demands, without people. We’re

31:11

for a strike—not a strike, but for Navalny to be allowed on the ballot.

31:14

That’s understandable; those are concrete demands.

31:15

asks Yozhkin M. Well, I don’t agree with

31:19

you, Yozhkin M. “Against corruption” is

31:21

also quite clear: we demand

31:23

an investigation into Medvedev’s corruption allegations.

31:24

That’s also quite clear. You see, as many people as there are,

31:26

there are that many

31:28

points of view. Some say that demanding

31:30

Navalny be allowed to run is too narrow

31:32

a topic, and they’re right. But in the end, the point

31:34

isn’t Navalny—it’s that, in general,

31:36

real elections do not exist. That’s why we

31:39

try to choose slogans that

31:43

are, as far as possible, less vague, but

31:46

that cover the whole system as a whole. Well, yes,

31:48

“Let Navalny run” and everything else—Grigory

31:51

is absolutely right to say that even with

31:54

Navalny, these would not be fair elections.

31:56

They would still be unfair, but

31:58

people would relate to these elections differently,

32:00

they would view them differently. By the way, since

32:03

we’ve started talking about this, let’s look at

32:05

the results of our new

32:07

opinion poll that we

32:09

conducted. I remind you, we carry out

32:12

polls every day and report on

32:16

the ratings. This time it’s an anti-rating—well,

32:18

that is, once again we conducted a poll across all of

32:20

Russia. Before that, there was a poll for the city of

32:22

Yekaterinburg; before this one, it was

32:24

nationwide. Let’s take a look at

32:25

the new nationwide poll, then.

32:28

Let’s have slide number one, please.

32:31

Please. So, look:

32:36

we ask people who intend

32:38

to take part in the election, and in red

32:42

the last question is highlighted. So, everyone knows about Putin;

32:44

Sobchak is in second place.

32:47

We can see that even more people

32:49

now know that Sobchak is taking part in the

32:51

election. Even more people know that

32:53

Zhirinovsky

32:54

47 percent know who Yavlinsky is.

32:57

Grudinin has about the same level here, and compared with

32:59

the poll that was conducted

33:01

from the 15th to the 18th, the number of people increased

33:05

who know about their participation. Interestingly, by the way,

33:07

the number of people who know has increased

33:10

who know that Zubanov

33:13

is taking part in the election—29 percent; that

33:15

Mironov is taking part in the election—27 percent; and

33:18

that Tsvetov is taking part in the election—25

33:21

percent, compared with 19 in the previous

33:23

This suggests that, well, people keep talking about the election

33:25

constantly—talking, talking, talking

33:27

and discussing it—and it already seems to everyone that

33:29

everyone is taking part in the election, everyone knows about it, that is,

33:31

awareness is fairly high.

33:33

Let’s look at the next slide.

33:35

The main slide is, essentially,

33:37

the candidates’ ratings.

33:42

So, something jumped there—now we can see

33:45

that the candidates’ ratings have not changed

33:50

compared with the previous measurement, that is,

33:52

support for Putin is still

33:54

80 percent among those who have decided how they will vote

33:57

—in other words, nothing has changed

34:00

compared with the other candidates.

34:01

Everyone only sees Putin.

34:04

Zhirinovsky has 7 percent, compared

34:07

with 8 percent before; Grudinin

34:11

has 7 percent; Sobchak, 1

34:14

percent; Tsvetov, 1 percent; Yavlinsky,

34:16

1 percent; another politician, 3 percent.

34:19

So it’s all the same. In this

34:23

setup that we have, things are completely

34:25

stable—the candidates, basically, aren’t doing a damn thing

34:27

at all.

34:28

That’s why the ratings aren’t changing. But

34:30

maybe there will be debates later, and after all,

34:33

one of them might, during the debates,

34:34

cause a scene or say something

34:36

striking. But for now, essentially,

34:39

this format of running the campaign, in which

34:40

nothing happens, doesn’t lead anywhere

34:43

at all—it produces exactly the same

34:45

frozen ratings, and Putin is

34:49

absolutely dominant over them. Let’s look at a new

34:51

slide. For the first time, we measured the anti-

34:53

ratings of politicians, and the results here are very interesting.

34:56

With Putin, it’s clear: he has

34:59

the lowest anti-rating. We phrased

35:01

this question in the harshest

35:03

possible format:

35:04

“Which politician would you not vote for

35:06

under any

35:07

circumstances?” And only 3 percent

35:09

dare to say that they dislike Putin

35:12

that strongly. But this is also a well-known

35:13

phenomenon in sociology: people are simply afraid

35:16

to say it. Personally, I don’t believe that he really has

35:18

such a low anti-rating. As for everyone else,

35:20

things get more complicated here, and even I’m wary, and

35:23

both Tsvetov and Grudinin have

35:26

relatively low anti-ratings—14

35:28

percent and 13 percent—but they are

35:30

simply not that well known.

35:32

Zhirinovsky is already significantly higher at 22

35:34

percent. Interestingly, Yavlinsky, in terms of anti-

35:36

rating, has overtaken Zhirinovsky. Usually

35:38

Vladimir Volfovich (Zhirinovsky’s patronymic) is one of the

35:41

leaders in anti-ratings. And of course,

35:42

Sobchak is absolutely, here,

35:46

also

35:46

the queen of the field, and her anti-rating is 71

35:49

percent—simply far, far higher

35:52

than everyone else’s.

35:53

She is, of course, one of the most

35:57

unpopular politicians in the country for a large share of the population,

35:59

and, well, well, that

36:04

is noticeable, we can see it, and overall

36:07

it matches the data we

36:10

recently showed from an independent question

36:11

that was asked in Yekaterinburg.

36:14

True, they measured it a bit higher there:

36:15

they found her anti-rating to be 84

36:17

percent, while we see only 71. So there you have it.

36:20

Essentially, in this election

36:23

campaign, movement is zero.

36:24

Nothing is happening. But still,

36:27

write to me yourselves: have you seen anything at all

36:30

from the candidates’ activities over

36:33

the past two weeks? We, at least, did something—

36:38

yes, we held this voters’ strike

36:40

(a protest boycott campaign), what a cute GIF, I’m petting

36:42

a dog. The other candidates—

36:45

I’m genuinely baffled. But

36:47

fine, obviously not everyone has a network

36:49

like ours, because they didn’t build it

36:51

over the course of a whole year. But for any

36:54

candidate, for any campaign headquarters, it was probably

36:56

a fairly obvious idea: let’s

36:57

also hold some mass rallies

36:59

in support, at least in

37:00

cities with populations over one million. If you can’t

37:02

hold one in Stary Oskol or Kurgan,

37:04

if you can’t, can’t hold one

37:08

in Vladivostok because your network doesn’t reach that far yet,

37:10

then in Novosibirsk,

37:12

Yekaterinburg, Moscow, or St. Petersburg,

37:13

surely you could have organized something.

37:15

But no one is doing anything, no one is doing

37:17

anything at all. Just watch what the Communists do on February 3,

37:19

and you’ll see

37:21

this corpse—I don’t mean the Communists specifically,

37:25

but the Russian

37:26

political system in general. It’s something

37:28

completely, completely dead, lying there without

37:30

moving.

37:31

This election campaign is not

37:33

moving even a tiny bit, not one bit.

37:38

As for our news, I wanted to tell you

37:41

about it—you probably noticed

37:42

that we launched a news program on the

37:46

Navalny LIVE channel. We launched it, overall,

37:48

in a raw, unprepared form because

37:51

we decided that on January 28 it had to

37:54

go on air, and we released it. It turned out

37:59

to be rather unusual, a kind of

38:01

baptism by fire.

38:02

But at the same time, all the people whom we

38:05

We brought them onto the news project.

38:07

They’re absolutely wonderful, and they’re all new.

38:09

They had never worked at the Anti-Corruption Foundation before.

38:10

Corruption.

38:11

They had previously worked on the election campaign,

38:13

so, well, in a way,

38:15

this was a bit new for them, except for Dmitry

38:17

Nizovtsev, whom you’ll see now.

38:19

Let’s take a look. You’ve probably seen it already, but

38:21

still, it’s remarkable footage of how

38:23

our news team worked at that very

38:25

dramatic moment when a large number of police officers

38:27

tried to force their way into this

38:29

studio. They were pounding on the

38:31

door for several seconds. Let’s watch.

38:33

If they had immediately said there was a bomb threat,

38:36

I think people in police uniform would be clearing this place out.

38:38

They’re dragging our lawyer away right from his home, and

38:44

the person who, by all appearances,

38:46

please introduce yourself.

38:48

Show your ID, please.

38:49

All right, what’s your name? As I understand it, there is

38:52

a bomb threat. What’s your name? That’s what I need—

38:53

show me your ID.

38:54

All right, your ID...

38:57

How should I address you?

38:59

Tell me—come on, say it here. I’ll

39:01

move through here past all this stuff.

39:02

There’s no one to appeal to here, we

39:08

understand that. Show us your

39:10

ID first, and then we’ll continue. Dima

39:13

Nizovtsev, who got ten days in jail,

39:16

and who heroically resisted the

39:18

police here in this footage, sitting at this

39:21

table, and then also filmed them in the lobby, for

39:25

which, basically, he was punished there.

39:27

They were trying to take his phone away there.

39:29

He’s a journalist from Khabarovsk and used to work at

39:32

a Khabarovsk outlet, and in general, in

39:34

Khabarovsk they really crack down hard. He was

39:36

arrested again, yes, even before the protest began.

39:39

He was the campaign headquarters coordinator then, so he was familiar with it.

39:41

But all the others are new people, and

39:43

they conducted themselves absolutely heroically.

39:45

They did a fantastic job. As for the news, we’re going to

39:47

hand out... I get a lot of

39:49

questions. People write to us in the comments: “Alexei,”

39:51

“what kind of news is this of yours?”

39:53

“Because your anchors are openly expressing

39:57

their own opinions. How can that be?”

39:59

“An anchor is supposed to just sit there,”

40:01

“and the news is supposed to be,”

40:04

“like robots sitting there and repeating

40:07

what the news agencies say. We’re used to that kind of

40:08

news. If you want that kind of news,

40:12

go somewhere else. Our

40:14

news concept is exactly this: we

40:18

are going to say it in our own words, plainly

40:21

and directly.

40:22

And we are going to tell the truth about what is happening

40:24

in a country with an authoritarian regime.

40:28

This “on the one hand, on the other hand”

40:31

approach no longer works. So we will have

40:33

real news. We will not lie in

40:35

our news. That is the main principle: we will not

40:38

lie, but we will say everything

40:40

plainly and directly. And all our anchors,

40:43

and the news editor, and everyone there,

40:45

including the technical team, are people with

40:49

a clear political position, and they will

40:52

express their political position and their attitude toward

40:55

those sitting in the Kremlin

40:57

in these news broadcasts. But at the same time,

40:59

we will not lie, and we will not

41:00

distort things, but we also will not be shy.

41:02

We’re not really... not настоящие (proper) professionals,

41:06

we don’t really know how to do

41:10

news, we don’t really know how to do television,

41:12

so we have quite a lot of

41:14

slips, shortcomings, and things like that.

41:18

Of all of us, only one person—Yelena

41:23

Malakhovskaya, whom you also saw—

41:24

was a professional TV presenter. She is

41:27

the only person who had worked on camera

41:29

before. Everything else, well, we’re going to

41:31

build together with you. In that sense, this is

41:33

a kind of media startup—sorry for such a

41:37

corny word—that we are launching together with you.

41:39

So watch the news,

41:42

help us, advise us, but please don’t

41:45

tell us that the anchors should just

41:49

read dry copy and not express

41:51

their attitude toward events, because for that

41:53

we wouldn’t have launched a news project like this.

41:55

This kind of news—

41:56

go elsewhere. There are news outlets where

41:58

anchors speak dryly and keep their attitude toward

42:01

events hidden, and please look at what

42:03

has happened to all those dry-speaking

42:06

outlets—what happened to *Kommersant*, what

42:08

has now happened to *Vedomosti*, what

42:09

has happened to all the others.

42:11

So we are going to say everything

42:14

plainly and directly. Support us.

42:19

The activities of the other candidates—zero. And in

42:21

answer to the question of whether, in theory, there is

42:24

a possibility that because of calls for a

42:25

boycott, people will go vote out of spite:

42:27

I saw a video where some elderly women literally said,

42:30

“A boycott? Then I’ll go vote just out of spite.”

42:32

A reverse effect. Well, an elderly woman goes onto

42:35

YouTube, watches my videos, and says,

42:37

“I’ll go vote just to spite Navalny.”

42:39

Of course, that effect can happen, but only on a

42:43

small scale. You know, someone

42:45

might watch and say, “I didn’t want to go to

42:47

the polls, but I dislike Navalny so much

42:49

that I’ll go vote.”

42:51

Sure, there is probably some number of such people,

42:53

but I think not many.

42:56

After all, people’s actions in life, their

42:59

basic attitudes toward politics, toward elections, toward

43:02

their own future and the country’s future—those things

43:05

still are not derived from

43:07

their love for me. They go to vote or they do not

43:10

because they do or do not consider

43:12

this to be an election. And the task of our boycott

43:15

is precisely to explain that. There is 198.

43:22

"Ways," writes to us Mariy Ustinova.

43:23

of nonviolent resistance, including

43:25

rallies. Your official support for one

43:27

action or another generates a great deal of

43:29

sympathy for your position and more

43:32

actively spreads information. More

43:33

large-scale turnout at protest actions.

43:35

Think about it. Maria, well, 190 methods

43:39

of peaceful, nonviolent resistance

43:41

including rallies — that's what all sorts of

43:43

political scientists and various theorists write about

43:45

in all kinds of books. In reality, well,

43:48

I mean, I'm not arguing with that. If you know

43:50

190 ways to deal with vampires, share them with

43:53

us. Well, you can probably google them.

43:54

Do it.

43:55

Method 196, 198, 199 — we are trying

44:01

to implement the formats for which

44:04

our network is needed and that will be

44:06

mass-based.

44:07

The kind that can involve a large number of people.

44:09

Let a million flowers bloom. Of course, I do not

44:13

for a second doubt that somewhere

44:15

there are people sitting who are a hundred times better than I am

44:18

at coming up with what needs to be done. Great.

44:21

There are always people who do something

44:23

better. Then do it — and I say this without any

44:28

irony or sarcasm. Come to our

44:30

headquarters, or without any headquarters at all, organize

44:34

a few of your acquaintances, or if your

44:36

123rd method allows for individual

44:39

work, then do that individual

44:41

work. That's generally the coolest thing

44:44

you can do. Everything we have is built

44:46

on that. Listen, Viktor Bondarenko asks:

44:49

"Alexei, what do you think about the Venus

44:51

Project? You promised to look into this

44:52

issue." Second, in every... from the physical to people... (unclear)

44:56

Someone writes about the Venus Project. I confess, I was

45:00

going to google it right now or

45:01

look it up on Wikipedia. You look and think:

45:03

the Venus Project — for now, we are not discussing the Venus Project,

45:06

and I'm not ready yet. Let's

45:09

talk instead about anonymity on the internet.

45:11

This is a very important topic, and Putin

45:15

at roughly the same time when my

45:18

press secretary Kira Yarmysh and press secretary

45:21

company... Ruslan Shaveddinov, who

45:23

were broadcasting live, were detained at

45:26

Sheremetyevo Airport and then put in

45:29

— literally, this is not a joke, I'm not making it up —

45:32

so, in the official ruling it says: for

45:34

tweets, and for some reason they added

45:36

"forming a negative attitude toward

45:39

one of the president's candidates/associates". At that

45:41

same time, Putin stated that

45:43

this is not 1937 now

45:46

and the black Marias (NKVD arrest vans) are not coming for anyone.

45:48

So why, then, do we need anonymity on

45:50

the internet? Why hide? Write whatever

45:52

you want — nothing will happen. Let's see

45:54

what he said. A short video, 25 seconds.

45:56

Here it is:

45:57

"Internet anonymity, on the one hand,

46:02

seems to be good for democracy, but on the other

46:04

hand it creates many problems because

46:08

behind these accounts no one knows who

46:09

is hiding, and indeed if a person

46:12

something...

46:12

Even now it's not 1937,

46:15

right? People say whatever they want, especially

46:18

on the internet. No devilish black van is

46:20

coming for you tomorrow. One and a half million

46:24

rubles (about 16,000 USD) is what we've raised so far. To take part in

46:27

the fundraising, within the framework of the

46:30

Phoenix project, we want to raise as much money as

46:32

the villains took from us by freezing the

46:34

funds in the account. You just heard Putin

46:36

telling us that, in general,

46:38

internet anonymity is unnecessary, and

46:40

the astonishing thing is — well, fine, he lied

46:45

about the fact that we don't need

46:49

anonymity because supposedly you can write

46:52

whatever you want on the internet. We both know that

46:54

right now, every week, some people

46:57

are being prosecuted for what

46:59

they write on the internet. But what interested me

47:02

even more was this kind of double,

47:06

double hypocrisy of this position, because

47:08

these people — Putin specifically —

47:11

in recent years, his entire

47:14

rule, all of it,

47:16

his whole new style of governance has been built on

47:18

anonymity, and anonymity — the attempt to hide

47:21

something — is his main trademark. Well, let's

47:24

look at who is in this photograph. In this

47:29

photograph there is some sweet,

47:30

very sweet chubby little man, and you

47:33

will probably say, "Oh yes, he looks very much like

47:37

the younger son of Prosecutor General

47:39

Yury Chaika." No, he has a completely different

47:43

official name. Our state believes

47:45

that this person's name is

47:47

"I Shou 9," and that is exactly how he

47:53

is officially entered in Rosreestr (Russia's state property registry). He

47:56

is hidden from you and me. The state has

48:00

officially and unlawfully granted him

48:03

anonymity so that you or I could not

48:06

find his property. That is, this is not even about

48:09

some posts on the internet, but rather

48:12

a simple public record of the existence of

48:15

apartments. Your apartment in the registry

48:16

can be found by anyone

48:18

under your full name, but Chaika's son

48:20

we will not find. Now let's look at

48:22

the next person. And those of you who

48:24

have seen the film *Chaika* will say: yes, that's

48:26

the elder son, Artyom Chaika, owner

48:31

of all sorts of monopolies in the country, owner

48:34

of real estate in Switzerland, and so on, and

48:36

real estate in Russia. But no, this is not

48:39

Artyom Chaika. Officially, his name is "LS Dush"

48:43

or "LSD 3" — no one even really understands.

48:47

The same goes for his property.

48:50

It is officially encrypted. These people again

48:53

receive official anonymity. Just think about it:

48:55

they even wrote it on the little cups, and we

48:58

were once struck by the fact that they...

49:01

officially, at the state level, already

49:04

we went to court over this; we filed a

49:06

lawsuit and said: how on earth can you

49:08

turn a public record in a public

49:11

state real estate registry

49:12

into a secret one like this? And they told us

49:15

no, we have the right to do that, and we lost that

49:18

case. But fine. Let's

49:20

look at the next person, and here

49:24

you can't say we don't know who he is — this

49:27

is the man who wanted to be out there, burning

49:28

in a tank in Luhansk and spending years in the trenches

49:31

but life turned out so hard that somehow

49:35

he didn't make it to Luhansk, and instead he works as

49:37

Deputy Prime Minister of the government

49:39

this is Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin

49:42

and no, no, no, no, because in

49:45

Rosreestr (Russia's state property registry), for his wonderful, luxurious

49:49

very expensive real estate, it simply

49:51

says directly: private individual

49:54

value unavailable — in other words, a paraphrase

49:57

for the word anonymous: an official anonymous person. So

50:01

the state grants Rogozin

50:04

anonymity, while to you it says: you must

50:07

register with your passport, your

50:10

Telegram, your username — I don't know, Pink

50:13

Dog27 on Twitter, VKontakte, and

50:17

Facebook. And now let's look at

50:20

the next person. Who is this?

50:22

This is Kirill Shamalov

50:24

the youngest billionaire in Russia and the son-in-law

50:28

of President Putin

50:29

So, let's see what he's called in that

50:31

very same registry. And actually, not at all —

50:34

not in any way. If Rogozin had

50:36

"value unavailable" written there, then

50:41

for Kirill Shamalov there's just some

50:42

strange abbreviation: L.S., LCP

50:45

and just a number — not even a name, damn it

50:49

from official databases, the state gives him

50:52

illegal anonymity. But there are people about

50:55

whom it's as if they don't exist at all — phantom people. Let's

50:57

look at this nice young woman here. Who

51:03

is this? This is Katerina Putina, the younger daughter

51:07

of President Putin and the wife of Kirill Shamalov

51:10

and accordingly also

51:11

a young billionaire. And in accordance with

51:14

the Family Code — or perhaps as if she

51:17

doesn't exist at all — the state

51:20

officially gives her a cover identity

51:22

because there she is Tikhonova, with

51:24

some unclear surname. To this day, about her

51:26

we all know she is Putin's daughter, but

51:28

that is, as it were, confirmed nowhere. Any

51:31

newspaper writes "the alleged daughter

51:33

of Putin." In other words, a man has been in power for 18 years

51:34

and citizens actually have the right

51:37

to know. We're not interested, perhaps, in

51:39

the details of her private life — how she

51:41

dresses and what goes on there. We

51:43

understand that for security reasons

51:45

there is probably some sense in concealing

51:48

her exact place of residence. But at least

51:51

the basic facts — what her name is,

51:52

what her surname is, what income she is supposed

51:56

to disclose — none of that exists

51:58

Let's look at the next

51:59

photograph: an even more mysterious

52:02

person. To this day, in fact,

52:04

it's not even clear whether it's her at all

52:05

This is President Putin's elder daughter, supposedly

52:08

named Maria — or maybe not. What is known about her

52:11

informally is that

52:13

she works at one of

52:14

the medical

52:15

one of the medical centers in

52:17

Moscow, but neither her real surname nor

52:22

her real workplace nor even the facts

52:25

of her existence as an adult, or of her

52:28

children

52:28

— none of it exists. So this is also official

52:31

anonymity: absolutely everything is hidden. And then

52:34

this person, who created all of this,

52:37

says to us: come on, everyone should

52:40

disclose everything — why would you want to hide something

52:42

from me?

52:43

Vladimir Putin. I certainly won't send to

52:46

you a white minibus like the one that

52:48

came for Kira Yarmysh and Ruslan Shaveddinov

52:50

at the airport, or a black prison van

52:52

if you cut off my access on VKontakte, can we

52:55

— well, no, we can't. And of course we

52:58

must, but I believe that the issue

53:01

of anonymity on the internet is even a matter

53:03

of national importance. People have

53:06

the right to some degree of privacy on

53:09

the internet, even people who are not

53:11

involved in politics. Because as soon as

53:13

they reveal all of this, well,

53:15

someone who wants, I don't know, to find out

53:21

what their wife or husband is writing in

53:24

Telegram will go and hand over

53:27

a small bribe to the police and get

53:29

all the data and messenger records. Someone

53:31

will hand over a small bribe to the police or

53:34

the FSB (Russia's security service) and get all the correspondence data of their

53:36

competitors, and so on and so on and so

53:39

on. People must have the right to

53:41

private correspondence, at the very least. And now we're being

53:44

told: let's make people register

53:47

on Telegram with their passports. Besides

53:49

the fact that this would require spending

53:50

billions of rubles additionally

53:52

in government expenditures, this is super

53:53

idiotic. And in that sense, of course, we

53:56

all need to take a united

53:58

position: guys, if you want, if you even

54:00

so much as mention

54:02

fighting anonymity on the internet, then for

54:04

us, please, all these your

54:06

L.S.s and "private individual

54:10

value

54:11

unknown" entries — disclose them to us first, and

54:13

then we can discuss anything else

54:16

So, I'm answering your questions, and at the same time

54:19

I'm looking at one for Navalny: have you listened to

54:25

the song "Russia for the Sad" by the band Pornofilmy

54:27

? I'm seriously waiting for an answer, I know that

54:29

There’s a song like that—I think I’ve even heard it.

54:31

They might teach me, but I honestly wouldn’t be able to sing it back. I’m talking about...

54:35

what exactly the candidate has, if it’s not a secret?

54:37

asks Ivan Ivanov, your press secretary.

54:39

He was probably shaping a negative opinion of them.

54:42

Grud... day.

54:43

Well, my press secretary insulted Grudinin.

54:45

And because of that, she was sentenced to five days of administrative arrest.

54:49

Right, right—about election monitoring in Moscow, a good...

54:54

...Kovi asks me. Ksenia Simonova, we...

54:57

will conduct monitoring everywhere and

55:00

work with everyone. Our main

55:03

task, after all, is regional monitoring.

55:05

But Moscow, even though it’s a big city, is the boring part.

55:10

Whether they send one percent or five percent

55:12

of polling stations, we expect

55:14

falsification in Moscow.

55:15

But we know for certain that

55:18

there will be falsification in the Moscow region.

55:20

There will be falsification in Bashkortostan.

55:22

There will be falsification in Tatarstan.

55:23

And in Dagestan, there most definitely will be falsification.

55:26

That’s why we have a huge project that

55:30

requires extremely high-level coordination on

55:34

a scale of a kind that, so far,

55:36

no one has ever done before—simply because no one

55:39

has had this many volunteer resources. We

55:41

will, of course, involve absolutely everyone,

55:43

bringing in anyone who can take part in these

55:45

projects. We’ll work with everyone.

55:49

Let me ask: why not direct a larger

55:51

share of your efforts and resources toward working with

55:52

state-sector employees who are being forced to go

55:55

to the polls for Putin? We are directing them there, well...

55:58

Actually, when we work with

56:01

teachers—the same state employees—or doctors,

56:04

that is, state employees, and the people who

56:06

walk through your apartment building where they put up

56:08

a leaflet—they include both state employees and non-

56:09

state employees.

56:10

The opportunities to work

56:12

directly with state employees are

56:14

fairly limited, because it

56:16

requires

56:17

campaigners who reveal themselves and who will be

56:19

inside that environment—that is, among teachers

56:21

who campaign among others. And yes, there are people like that.

56:23

Of course, we always urge

56:25

state employees to work with us and not be afraid

56:27

to help. There are quite a lot of them, but this is

56:30

also, as you understand, quite

56:32

a difficult task. So, a regular

56:35

commenter, Inferno Overkill, writes:

56:37

“Just put them all before a tribunal. That’s not even a question.”

56:38

Down below they’re saying: “Put them all before a tribunal, every last one.”

56:42

“Before a tribunal.” Right, Mari says:

56:47

She writes, correcting me: Sobchak is running

56:50

her campaign with videos, spamming obvious

56:52

points on federal TV channels, pushing

56:53

democracy. The problem is that Ksyusha (diminutive of Ksenia)

56:55

Sobchak has a negative rating, and then she goes on

56:58

in every possible way

56:58

to criticize Ksenia Sobchak. But videos

57:02

are not enough. Listen, I was releasing videos

57:06

and I still am, from the very beginning

57:09

of the campaign until now, I’m still putting out

57:11

videos—more videos than all the others

57:13

combined. And of course,

57:15

interviews, appearances on television, on

57:17

federal channels—they showed Grudinin,

57:19

Yavlinsky, and Sobchak, but for running

57:22

a nationwide campaign, that is absolutely

57:24

not enough. But we can see that even in

57:27

a more informationally developed society like the

57:30

United States,

57:31

you just recently watched how

57:34

the election campaign unfolded, and still

57:36

the main emphasis was on meetings with

57:39

voters, mass rallies,

57:42

network-based organizing, volunteers—it’s that

57:44

grassroots component that

57:46

comes into being when the core of your local

57:49

campaigners is doing something every single day.

57:51

That’s what’s missing, and only in that way

57:54

Besides, it’s not enough just to release videos

57:56

and appear on federal TV channels.

57:58

Dear Maria says you need to peel off

58:02

percentage points from the main competitor—that is, from

58:04

Putin. Every one of your television

58:07

appearances should be an appearance

58:09

that lowers Putin’s result and

58:12

raises yours. That is what an

58:15

election campaign is. And then there’s the

58:17

sociology—that is, the polling—we’re showing you, but

58:19

frankly, judging by people’s perceptions,

58:20

it’s obvious that this is not happening.

58:24

The Saudi prince has shown us an example.

58:28

People here were writing about putting them before a tribunal—well, over there

58:30

roughly the same thing happened. We have

58:37

a truly striking example of how

58:41

the sheer political will of a leader,

58:44

the current main prince of

58:47

Saudi Arabia, led to the point where he

58:49

shook down all the other princes who

58:51

through corruption had simply

58:52

carried off the oil money—107

58:56

billion dollars. What is 107

58:58

billion dollars? That’s five months’ worth of

59:01

revenue from oil sales for Russia.

59:05

Now, I’m not saying that we should

59:07

resort

59:07

to using such methods

59:10

in dealing with our oligarchs—they are

59:12

obviously illegal. But listen, if even

59:14

Saudi Arabia, a country that is thoroughly

59:16

corrupt and, on top of that, a monarchy,

59:19

is taking at least some general measures and steps

59:23

to recover money

59:26

made through corruption, then maybe

59:28

we ought to do a little of that too.

59:30

What’s funny is how they handled all those princes.

59:33

The main prince gathered all the others,

59:35

and then this prince locked

59:37

them in the Ritz hotel. And recently, this

59:40

—I won’t even try to pronounce

59:42

his name because I’ll get it wrong—this main

59:46

prince, the one you can see in the picture now,

59:47

locked the other princes in the Ritz hotel.

59:49

I got in there as a BBC News correspondent.

59:52

Not in Latakia—the interiors, well, let me explain quickly.

59:54

The basic idea was that they were living in some kind of

59:56

house arrest in that hotel.

59:58

There were golden rooms, golden showers,

1:00:02

and, again, golden toilets—every possible luxury.

1:00:06

So they were not being kept in a cell at all,

1:00:08

but they were held there for a while, kept there,

1:00:12

and in the end they started letting them out only when

1:00:14

they agreed to share these

1:00:17

corrupt funds. And I’m simply

1:00:20

just saying that Moscow has one too—

1:00:23

there is this mechanism there as well, this

1:00:26

version—probably not as beautiful,

1:00:28

probably not covered entirely in gold, but at the very least

1:00:31

it is worth thinking about. Maybe not immediately

1:00:33

locking someone up in that hotel, but

1:00:35

gathering all these oligarchs together,

1:00:37

bringing them in, showing them, and saying:

1:00:39

Guys, you have to pay taxes in Russia.

1:00:43

Through legal mechanisms,

1:00:46

there is no need to seize anything from anyone, but simply

1:00:48

through a proper legal mechanism, somehow

1:00:52

the nation’s wealth should be redistributed.

1:00:55

Because it is only in Russia

1:00:57

that all these oil magnates and oligarchs,

1:01:00

the owners of oil companies, pay so

1:01:02

little in taxes and rise so quickly

1:01:05

in the Forbes rankings.

1:01:07

They should pay as much as

1:01:09

oil company owners pay in the United States,

1:01:12

in Europe, in the Scandinavian countries. When

1:01:16

they pay that much, then probably we

1:01:20

will all live a little better together, and the

1:01:22

state will have a little more money

1:01:24

to cover certain

1:01:25

social spending and simply develop.

1:01:27

You see, by different methods—legal ones in

1:01:31

Europe and the United States, and completely, well, not

1:01:33

legal ones in Saudi Arabia.

1:01:35

Only Russia is stuck somewhere in between and cannot

1:01:38

choose either side; it is simply

1:01:41

slowly, slowly sinking into a swamp.

1:01:43

And you and I are fighting so that it does not

1:01:45

sink into that swamp.

1:01:46

Take part in the voters’ strike.

1:01:49

In the description to this

1:01:51

video there is a link where you can

1:01:52

download a leaflet, and another link through which you can

1:01:54

sign up as an election observer. Let’s fight

1:01:58

for our country. See you next

1:02:00

Thursday.

1:02:01

If, before next Thursday, they suddenly decide not to

1:02:02

let me stay free—or if they decide to

1:02:05

lock me up for a while—well, in short,

1:02:08

sooner or later, we’ll see each other again.

1:02:10

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