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Hi everyone. My name is Georgy Alburov, and

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once again I’m doing a response-to-a-response.

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It’s not that I really

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enjoy it, but what I like even less is

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when Medvedev and his cronies

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take all of us for complete

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idiots. A month and a half later, following

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oligarch Alisher Usmanov, our

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investigation also got a response from Ilya

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Yeliseyev, who gave a detailed, extensive

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interview. Let me remind you, this is the very same

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deputy chairman of Gazprombank, one of

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Medvedev’s closest friends, and the man in charge of all

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the foundations that hold title to

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the numerous palaces and estates. And right away,

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here’s a lovely detail: Yeliseyev gave the interview

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to the newspaper *Kommersant*, which—now, don’t

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be surprised—is owned by Alisher Usmanov,

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the very oligarch who gifted this

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wonderful estate on Rublyovka (an elite area outside Moscow) to a foundation controlled by Medvedev.

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I

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actually counted exactly how much time

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Yeliseyev spent preparing this

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—sorry—response: 42 days, 12 hours, and 50 minutes.

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That’s exactly how much time passed between the publication of

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the investigation *He Is Not Dimon to You* and the release of

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the interview in *Kommersant*. And that’s despite the fact that

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both Medvedev and Usmanov can afford

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pretty much an unlimited number of

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lawyers and PR people. That is more than enough time

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to demolish absolutely

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any false accusation and defend

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the prime minister. Anyone who knows how

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to use the global

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telecommunications network known as the internet and

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a computer pointing device of the mouse variety

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could expose this in about five minutes. But why am I

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telling you this? Better to just

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show you everything myself. Let’s go. First, the good news.

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When Yeliseyev was answering our questions, he

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seemed to have the diagram from

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our investigation right in front of him and went from one company to

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the next without denying ties to a single one of them.

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All that effort, wasted for nothing.

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These foundations deliberately came up with

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different names and addresses, bought different

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domains, registered phone numbers in the names of

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people who were supposedly unrelated to one another, and yet

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Yeliseyev just went ahead and acknowledged the links between all

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of them. He even confirmed that he controls

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most of them. The only thing

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Yeliseyev didn’t borrow from our

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investigation was the name for the scheme.

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We called it everywhere Medvedev’s corrupt

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empire. But for Yeliseyev, well, that’s not a very

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convenient way to put it.

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So he came up with a great substitute: “the foundation and

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its perimeter.” All these palaces, yachts, dachas,

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vineyards—apparently that’s the “perimeter” of

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a nonprofit foundation. So whenever you see

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“the foundation and its perimeter,” read: corrupt

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empire. Now let’s take a closer

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look at what exactly Yeliseyev said in

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the interview. Here he is talking about

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the Italian vineyards, calling them

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a purely personal investment. That’s very

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easy to verify, right?

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The vineyards belong to a Cypriot offshore company.

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Let’s look at its financial statements and

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find out what kind of personal investment this really was,

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and where the money came from to buy hundreds

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of hectares of Italian land. Here’s the section on

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loans. In 2012, when the vineyards were

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purchased, the offshore company had $60 million, mostly

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in the form of a loan from a company called Oron, which is

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the renamed management company of

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the Dar Foundation, and from Fin Consulting K, which is

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the renamed financial

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consulting company of the Dar Foundation. These are

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the very companies that financed the construction of

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palaces for Medvedev. We spent a long time looking for

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where, exactly where, those so-called

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purely personal investments of Ilya Yeliseyev were, and

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you won’t believe it—we found them in more

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recent financial statements, from 2014.

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By then, yachts and Tuscan vineyards had already been bought through this company, and

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the yachts and Tuscan vineyards were already there, and

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Yeliseyev’s investment at that moment

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had finally come through. And it was—attention—

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$53.49. Yes, yes, you heard that right.

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$53.49. So Medvedev’s money men

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put $60 million into the company, while his

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trusted associate puts in 53 dollars and calls

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the company his personal investment.

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Dmitry Anatolyevich, rein him in somehow—

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he’ll leave you without your pants. Here are a couple more

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great examples of how Yeliseyev

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is not just lying, but setting everyone around him up.

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About the oligarchs Simanovsky and

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Mikhelson, who contributed more than 30

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billion rubles to the Dar Foundation, he says:

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“I meet with them periodically,”

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“inform them about our projects.” That’s meant to

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create the impression that responsible

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managers are reporting back to

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noble benefactors. But now

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let’s take a look at Mikhelson’s interview. And

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what do we see there?

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A statement that he is not involved with the Dar Foundation at all,

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that he didn’t even know how much

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he had donated there. Mikhelson does not know what

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the money is spent on because, quote, he “takes no

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part whatsoever in managing

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the foundation,” and therefore has nothing

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to comment on. So he shows no interest in

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its activities, let alone in receiving regular

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reports. Yeliseyev is making it all

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up. Here’s another good example.

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Yeliseyev admits that Medvedev stays at

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the residence in Plyos (a town on the Volga River), and—attention—pays for

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his stay there. What is this nonsense?

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Guys, do you not coordinate

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with each other at all? Create, I don’t know, some kind of group

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chat, throw your brilliant ideas in there,

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write them down, for heaven’s sake, keep track of each

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other, advise one another. Why, just half a year ago,

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Medvedev’s press secretary, Natalya

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Timakova, said that—and pay attention—

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is owned by Medvedev and is not

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being used by him on any other

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legal grounds. So is it being used or

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not? Is he paying or not, after all? Otherwise

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it turns out the payments are being made under the table, without

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any legal basis, without a contract.

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Wait a second. And who is paying — Medvedev himself?

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Out of his own pocket? That would be pretty expensive.

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And what about the security detail, the Federal Protective Service officers (FSO, Russia’s state bodyguard service)?

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Are they billed separately, or included in the price

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of the hotel, or is it the Presidential Administration

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— or perhaps the government —

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that pays? And on what grounds would that come out of the budget?

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There are already more than enough state

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residences — why rent additional ones?

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So let’s demand together

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the receipts and invoices for Dmitry

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Anatolyevich’s stay in Plyos. Surely we can’t help but

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believe his best friend, Ilya Eliseev,

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who says outright that

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Medvedev pays for absolutely everything himself.

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And the most interesting — even mysterious — part, I saved

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for last. When Eliseev

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talks about the foundations and the so-called

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“perimeter,” he says it includes

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the Mansurovo agricultural complex and the vineyards

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at Skalisty Bereg in Anapa. He calls them

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investments by the Dar Foundation in agriculture

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and goes into great detail about

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their achievements, plans, and other details.

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It gives the unmistakable impression that both of these

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these

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agricultural assets are managed by Eliseev; he

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talks about them as if they were his own. But here’s the

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huge catch: both the vineyards and

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the Mansurovo agricultural complex are

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75% owned not by the foundations, but by the mysterious

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— though very familiar to us — ZAO

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Tech Pro. That’s the very company whose address

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Medvedev uses to order himself

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sneakers. Now that’s a twist. Now that’s

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something else. In other words, the company whose email

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and physical address he uses for

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his online shopping also falls within

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the perimeter of Ilya Eliseev and all his

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foundations. So it turns out that within this so-called

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“perimeter” there are

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several dachas where Medvedev regularly

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vacations, an agribusiness in his

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native Mansurovo, a joint venture

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with his cousin,

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Medvedev’s wife’s charitable foundation,

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and the company that delivers his sneakers.

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So what kind of “perimeter” is this? Why

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is absolutely everything in this perimeter directly

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connected to Dmitry Anatolyevich? In fact,

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I am 100% sure that Eliseev

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simply forgot that the agricultural complex

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and the vineyards had been re-registered to another legal

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entity — that’s why he let it slip. He is constantly

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getting confused in interviews, saying something

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belongs to the Sotsgorod Foundation, when in fact

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it belongs to Dar, and vice versa.

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So many mistakes. Shame on you, Ilya Vladimirovich.

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Even we have already memorized what

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your scheme looks like. If it’s difficult, use

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our investigation as a cheat sheet.

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To be honest, I don’t really want to draw

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any conclusions or repeat what

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has already been said so many times. And in general, it is obvious

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to anyone: what we are watching is

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a giant operation unfolding to

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to

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cover up what he did, and

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the people covering for him are the very same people who

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helped Medvedev commit these

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crimes. But the most important thing is this: if

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you ever happen to run into Ilya Eliseev

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on the street — or, for example,

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if you happen to be a journalist and can

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submit an official inquiry — then ask

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him this: why is it that his — as he himself claims —

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dacha in Plyos is guarded by the FSO,

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and why is there a no-fly zone over it?

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Do we really close the skies over the dacha of every

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deputy chairman of Gazprombank?

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Why does Medvedev use his yacht, Fotini,

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and which Svetlana is it named after?

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Why did Eliseev decide to build an agricultural

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complex in

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the tiny village of Mansurovo,

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where Medvedev’s family comes from? How did it

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happen that Medvedev stays only at

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his dachas? Who exactly stays at these dachas?

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Why has not a single one of the commercial projects

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for reconstructing these palaces, over 10 years, ever

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become available for use or

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booking by ordinary people? How exactly would we

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go about booking, say, a week in winter

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at the residence in Plyos, or for summer

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vacation the residence in Milovka? Vacation —

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I’ve never even had a vacation yet. These are

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the biggest inconsistencies, the things

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that will be very, very hard to explain.

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And they do need to be explained. Thank you for watching

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our channel, and don’t forget

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to subscribe. They tell the truth here.

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