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complaints, and so on. And today we

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have a lot to discuss, as

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usual, really. I do not know how long it

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will take—three, two hours, or less, or more.

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We will see. We will go with the flow.

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I will gauge it by how much you

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are watching. Those who came on time, I will

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treat to a very cool document right

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off the bat. This document really

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does a great job of, first, putting everything

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in its proper place—showing who is who in today’s

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Russia—and second, it gives a straightforward

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instruction manual for action for everyone. If

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you want to achieve something—whether to stop construction

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from happening, or to make sure wages are paid, or

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to get candidates registered, or whatever

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else—there is a direct instruction there.

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Although it is not some

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telegram from the Washington obkom (a sarcastic Soviet-style reference to an alleged foreign command center), and it is not a secret

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manual on how to carry out orange

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revolutions. It is a letter from the Minister

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of Ecology of the Moscow Region. The thing is,

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that in the Ruzsky District—for those who do not live

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in the Moscow Region and do not really know

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it, there is such a district called Ruzsky.

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It is not the near suburbs of Moscow, but it is the kind of place with

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an elite reputation, good ecology, and where land

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is fairly expensive. And so the minister

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of ecology for the Moscow Region

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is coordinating with Governor Vorobyov,

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a billionaire, well known,

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a notorious election rigger, and generally a kind of

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mafioso, the location for sand

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quarries. Well, they need to make

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sand quarries. You understand perfectly well that

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nobody wants a sand quarry built next to their

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dacha (country house). And the way they choose

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where to build

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and dig out that sand quarry,

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and where it cannot be done, is explained by

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the Moscow Region’s ecology minister. Look,

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he writes to the governor that in this

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particular place he is issuing a negative

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opinion. Construction is not allowed there because,

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please show this document,

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part of the population has high social

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status and wealth. In other words,

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he says outright that you cannot build

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in this place because

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rich people live there. In addition,

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apparently some officials live there too, a couple of

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bureaucrats, so building here

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is not allowed. Wealthy people, high social

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status. And where can they build? That is on the second

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page of this letter. It says directly

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that mineral extraction can be carried out

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where there is low protest

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activity among the population. That is, if you

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do not make a fuss, do not go to rallies, do not

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write open letters—in other words,

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if you simply do not do the things that

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the authorities really dislike—then right next to

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your home they will build a sand quarry.

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And this really is a very

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important description of what

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is happening in Russia. And probably some of you

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are thinking right now: “Well yes,

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we have seen what those dachas

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look like. I am not an oligarch, but

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I have a decent dacha, two or three

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stories. I drive there in a foreign car, while

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over there there are these places where some

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drunks have put up little shacks, maybe

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or they just have vegetable gardens and

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greenhouses. So of course it makes sense that

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it is better to build a sand quarry there,

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knock down all those ramshackle huts, and

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put something there, build something, right?”

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But the thing is that those

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greenhouses, compared with you, are a

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shack. And your own little house, the one you

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drive to in your foreign car, bought on

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credit—or even not on credit—is also

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just a shack compared with

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Rotenberg, compared with any

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official whatsoever, compared

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with simply any rich person at all.

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That is exactly how the system works.

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They simply look at wealth,

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high social status. So if, say,

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I do not know, some

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buddy of our governor Vorobyov,

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Shoigu, or that whole prosecutorial

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mafia, just needs some space, you know, at the

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dacha. “We decided to ride ATVs, so

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we need a couple of hectares of open land,”

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then they will demolish your place, relocate you, or

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simply deny you any permits for anything.

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And that is because they have

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high social status, while you

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have nothing. And on top of that, you have low

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protest activity. So, my friends,

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in order to

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achieve at least something, you need high

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protest activity. It is absolutely not

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guaranteed in our country that if

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you have strong protest activity, you

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will definitely get your way. But

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it is guaranteed that if there is no

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protest activity, you will get 0

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rubles, 0 kopeks. In other words, you’ll get a dump,

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a landfill nearby, a sand quarry, and so

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on, and so on, and so on. Remember

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that. Today we’re going to discuss, uh, many topics

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that, as usual, in fact

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as always, require a high level of

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protest activity. 40,000 people

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hovering here on my screen. There are a lot of, uh, sort of

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snarky questions for me. So

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well then, Alexei, what do you think about the fact that

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Maria Zakharova was given the Order of Honor? There are lots

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of jokes about this, that Maria Zakharova was

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awarded the Order of Honor for winning the

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debate against me. Well, actually,

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that’s exactly what it is. It’s a pattern

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of behavior. It’s not even just some kind of

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joke in the Kremlin, like, let’s

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award her because, well, you know,

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Navalny went after her, and she got torn apart

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on social media. Even the association

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of travel agencies is writing her huge

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letters, there are thousands of signatures, tens

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of thousands collected demanding her

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resignation. I mean, this person is genuinely

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bringing disgrace on the country, both by

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her behavior and her stupidity, however

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you want to put it, a real disgrace, an embarrassment. And they

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award her the Order of Honor right

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now. Why? Because this is what they

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always do. Let’s remember how this

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works. There have been many such cases. Let me

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just remind you. Geremeyev, remember

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Geremeyev, from the

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Federation Council, was awarded on the day of the

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fifth anniversary of Boris Nemtsov’s murder, although,

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well, you know very well, I personally believe

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that his nephew, Geremeyev’s nephew, and obviously

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the elder Geremeyev, were involved in all of this. He,

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uh, I mean, even from the case materials

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everything points to the fact that he was one of the

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organizers of this murder. And they

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knew perfectly well that the fifth anniversary of the

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murder was coming. And everyone on social media would be writing

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how outrageous it is that even Geremeyev wasn’t

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questioned, the organizers weren’t found,

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the masterminds weren’t found, everyone would be furious.

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And specifically on that day, they demonstratively

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support their own. The same goes for Maria

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Zakharova. Precisely because she is being criticized on

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Twitter, precisely because, well, it’s hard

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to find a person in the country who would

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look at Maria Zakharova in any way other than

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like this and say: "Horrible, horrible, horrible."

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It is very important for them to support her because,

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well, basically, she does what her

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she just lies endlessly, yes, she

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lies in a deeply shameful way, but she is ready

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to serve them, uh, in absolutely any way and do

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whatever is required and endure any humiliation,

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for the sake of her superiors’ interests.

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That is why it is so important to award her the Order

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of Honor with the wording: for implementing

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the foreign policy course and for many years of

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conscientious diplomatic service.

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It’s funny to us. Funny. It’s shameful for us to

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look at this. It’s shameful for us to look at this. But

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for Putin, this is very important. Let me give one more

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example. Remember there was

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Yakunin, the head of Russian Railways. Some of you may

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have forgotten. And how much time we at FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) spent

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on this man? My God, the biggest

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chart that ever hung

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on our office wall was a chart

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of Yakunin’s offshore empire. It was

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enormous. We printed it on several printers,

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uh, photographed it, released film after film

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about him endlessly. I mean,

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we took his whole empire apart

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piece by piece. He was the head of Russian Railways, a very

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powerful man; nothing could

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be done to him. In 2013

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we released an investigation about him, and he was

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awarded the Order of Friendship for his

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labor achievements and many years of

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conscientious work. Demonstratively.

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So, we lay out all the

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irrefutable evidence that

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the man simply stole everything. Simply everything

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at Russian Railways. The famous fur storage room.

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Where did that come from? Remember Yakunin? Well,

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in his enormous estate in Akulinin

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there was a special little room that on the

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floor plan was marked as: a room with

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refrigerators, a fur storage room. Because

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fur coats have to be kept cold so that

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their, you know, little bits of fur

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from these killed animals would stand up and

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look beautiful, smooth, and shiny. And,

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I mean, so he too was specially,

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demonstratively awarded, like yes,

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of course, Navalny came after you,

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millions of people saw it,

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everyone is outraged, everyone at Russian Railways is sending it

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to each other and saying: "What a

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crook our boss is. But no, that won’t do." Despite

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the fact that he was a crook and unpleasant, and

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even though we did eventually secure Yakunin’s dismissal

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a few years later, right then and there

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it was important for Putin to show support for his own

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— for these thieves, crooks, these

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nonentities, drunks, idiots, riffraff

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everyone he has gathered around him. It is very important

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to show support. And the main method of support

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right now is what? Of course, trinkets. And so

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that’s what he is handing out in this sense. We can see that

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Putin is rapidly turning

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into Brezhnev. And in that sense, there is

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nothing new about it. Every crazy,

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authoritarian leader who sat on

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his throne for decades eventually reached

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the stage where he simply started

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handing out various things to everyone and, well, pinning on himself

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endless medals. And they are simply

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covered in all these medals. Putin has now

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reached that stage. This is now their

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main form of entertainment. And today

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Shoigu was given one. And how exactly was he awarded?

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With the Order

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For Merit to the Fatherland, First

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Class—but not the regular one, the one with swords. And

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all the media stressed so heavily that it was with

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swords—so what? I mean, good grief,

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some swords—it's all ridiculous, but for

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them it is very important, because they

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give each other these baubles, and we will see a lot

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more of this in the near future. 53,000

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people are watching us live. Go ahead and

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send me your questions, and I will

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answer them.

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People are asking me why there is a 0.5 on my

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mug. What does it mean? Where else have you

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seen the number 0.5, my dears? Of course,

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you’ve seen it on numerous—or maybe not so

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numerous, but still passing by you—

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lowered, tinted Lada Prioras. That is,

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of course, Dagestan, which I’m going to

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talk about today and to which, in

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fact, we all ought to express

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our support, because today there is

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a real catastrophe unfolding there. We’ll

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talk about that. That’s why today my

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mug is about Dagestan. But before we

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move on to the main topics, I wanted

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to follow up on some recent reports.

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It’s very interesting. I know that, generally speaking,

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not many people follow regional politics,

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because, well, what’s happening out in the regions—

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elections there, some kind of

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local peculiarity. But in fact, this is

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very important politics. So anyone who

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does follow it, good for you. And if you don’t follow it and

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find it boring, bear with me a little. Last time I

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talked about, uh,

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the scandal that is now unfolding

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in the northern part of the country, because there is

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an administrative process underway

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to merge Arkhangelsk Oblast and

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the Nenets Autonomous Okrug. And the Nenets

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Autonomous Okrug is categorically against

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this merger. And every person

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who follows regional

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politics knows this. But in Moscow, someone

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decided, let’s merge them. And they

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started trying to do it. I spoke about this in

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the previous program and said it would be

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very difficult to pull off. And of course,

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they will falsify all the results of the

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referendum, and there both federal

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subjects have to vote in favor, but

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it will still be very difficult. And it is

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interesting how the notorious vertical of

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power works, right? It would seem that everyone there

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has been trained: once they’re told, well,

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obviously this has been coordinated with Putin.

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Merge. They are all supposed to fall in line from the top

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down. But no, the vertical of power there

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has bent or warped in this

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case, because absolutely everyone is

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outraged. The governor of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, of course, is signing

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everything, but people there are genuinely furious,

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holding one-person pickets and so on. Well,

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the population there is small, but

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very angry. And on the spur of the moment they

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came up with the following option: let’s

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have another United Russia member pop up and say:

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"Why don’t we merge three

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federal subjects then, so that, you know,

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the residents of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug would be happier that

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Arkhangelsk Oblast is being joined to them,

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and it wouldn’t be just Arkhangelsk Oblast, but

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Arkhangelsk Oblast, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, and Komi." Well,

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I mean, for those of you who can picture

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the map of the country, right? Roughly

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what it looks like? You see

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how large that federal subject would be

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if you just, you know,

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draw it with a marker. It would be, damn it, a third

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of Europe, and still with a fairly small

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population—probably somewhere around 2 to 2.5

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million. I mean, population-wise, it’s

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just complete nonsense. Once again, they simply want

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for some unclear reason to take a gigantic

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territory and cram it into one

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federal subject. As it is, the country is already

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quite difficult to govern. I mean,

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in that case, why not just merge the entire

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European part of the country? Why not? There are

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some tiny regions there—let’s just mash them

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into one region. But most importantly, why?

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It’s as if United Russia said so, and

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everyone is supposed to say, "Yes, sir," and go

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do it. But no, in Komi this no longer

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works. And it’s not just that it can’t even

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be faked there anymore, because Komi is

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a fairly, well, nationally minded

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region in the sense that they

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want Komi identity to remain, they want to have

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their language, because there really is

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a people there, an ethnic group, and even the governor,

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the newly appointed governor, comes out

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and, well, sort of

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in mild terms, says: "And why exactly

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should we be merging here?"

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Even despite the fact that the Kremlin

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and United Russia ordered: let’s

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create a super-region. Let’s watch

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Komi Governor Vladimir Uyba. 1 minute 9

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seconds.

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This is a very serious issue. It is

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the issue that has emerged over the past week

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of merging the Nenets Autonomous Okrug (NAO) and Arkhangelsk Region.

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I want to say right away that I, uh, am against

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such

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such talk, against such

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ill-considered actions.

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I believe this initiative should

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come from the grassroots. It should come from

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the people living in these regions. If

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they need it, if it is a mutual decision

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of two or three federal subjects, then yes, it

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could happen. But if it is

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some kind of bureaucratic decision-making

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without the opinion of the people living in the

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territory, then it is a doomed

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option from the outset. So, of course, once again I

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want to tell you: please do not

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give in to the feeling that

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this issue has already been decided, that this

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is really happening. In fact,

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this is just a hypothesis that is

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being discussed.

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My

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position on this is what I have just expressed.

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You see, now even the governor, the governor,

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United Russia (the ruling political party), United Russia, is already

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wriggling like a little snake and saying, "Don’t

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fall for this." And you can practically hear

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that the word is already on the tip of his tongue—

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the word "provocations." But he can’t quite say, "Don’t

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fall for provocations." After all, these are deputies,

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members of United Russia, the official, official

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message from the Kremlin, but he can’t say it anymore,

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because the public is pushing back,

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because, well, in order for everyone in Komi

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to vote for unification,

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they would have to falsify 100% of the votes. And in

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the NAO they would also have to falsify 100% of the votes,

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and the people on the ground, well, somehow

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the times are different now, they understand

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that Putin is no longer nearly as

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popular, and on top of that we have elections coming. United

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Russia is completely, utterly unpopular.

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Well, of course it’s clear that teachers will

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be made to help rig the elections, but even those

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teachers, both in the NAO and in Komi, are strongly against

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this whole thing, uh, so the vertical chain of command

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immediately works much, much worse.

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All right, a couple of questions. Viktor asks

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me: "Alexei: comment on

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the latest 1 million ruble lawsuit from the National Guard (Rosgvardiya, Russia’s internal security force).

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When will they finally stop?" They never

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will. As I understand it, the question

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came up because reports appeared in the media

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and I had already decided not to

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write about it, but once again I was

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fined over the lawsuit—excuse me,

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the very same Zolotov case, the army general, the general

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covered in medals, who robbed his own

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soldiers, stole money on cabbage,

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potatoes, and so on. After that we

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released a video, and he sued me.

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Naturally, he won that case, despite

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the fact that we fully proved that

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every word in our video was true, but

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now they are demanding that I

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delete all of it. And as long as I do not delete it, they

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keep opening administrative cases

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against me and fining me. Then, probably,

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they’ll open a criminal case. The exact same

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thing is happening to the director of

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our foundation, Ivan Zhdanov, who

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refuses to delete the film *He Is Not Dimon to You*

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(an anti-corruption documentary about former Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev). What’s more, he cannot

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delete it because it is on my personal

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YouTube channel. But nevertheless

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Zhdanov is being fined, and they have opened

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a criminal case against him. The same thing is happening with

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me over this Rosgvardiya lawsuit.

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Alexander Shidnikov asks me:

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"Please don’t forget to cover the issue

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of Synergy’s lawsuit against the blogger and simply

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good person Alexander Gorbunov,

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aka Stalingulag. Well, indeed, I

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wrote about this today on social media and

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shared a link to his video.

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They are threatening to launch

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lawsuits against Gorbunov, even some kind of criminal case,

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because they are demanding that he, uh, also

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delete the video he made about

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Synergy University, which he caught

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engaging in some, uh,

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some sort of abuses. As far as

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I understand, from everything I have seen that he

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says, it is absolutely well-founded.

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Well, this is exactly how things work in modern Russia.

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Back in the day they used to say:

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"Well, either take it down or we’ll

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sue, or let’s sort it out, because you’ve supposedly

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damaged our

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honor and dignity." Now everything works

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differently. Especially since Synergy University

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is the kind of place with

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administrative

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clout, let’s put it that way. And they,

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naturally, go straight to: we’ll jail you, sue you,

19:32

fine you. In other words, they are trying

19:34

to crush him. And in that sense, of course,

19:36

he needs support. First and foremost, we need

19:38

to give this situation public attention,

19:40

because Synergy University probably

19:42

doesn’t want negative publicity,

19:44

and they may possibly back off from him

19:47

if people keep talking about it. All right, about the petition—

19:50

I see two questions. Ah, and I’ll talk about

19:54

that a bit later. The petition is an important

19:55

thing. Now,

19:58

you have probably noticed that

20:00

when Vladimir Solovyov had only just started

20:02

running his

20:05

YouTube channel, I was constantly taking little clips

20:07

from him, and all those nicknames of mine

20:11

for myself came from

20:14

when I introduce myself in the very

20:16

first seconds of the program, like "toad-like

20:18

hopper," I borrowed them from Vladimir Solovyov,

20:21

because he used to be so amusing on

20:23

his channel. That’s it, I’ve fallen out of love with Vladimir.

20:26

Solovyov's show. A new star. This is, of course,

20:29

Dr. Myasnikov. He is just an absolute idol

20:32

for us right now, really an idol of everything under the sun,

20:34

because he is not just, not just

20:37

some figure within Solovyov's program, but

20:40

also a catastrophic

20:42

and astonishing—rather, astonishingly—liar; he also

20:46

officially heads the information department of the task force

20:49

for combating the coronavirus. That is,

20:51

the chief official spokesperson for Russian

20:54

officials on the subject of coronavirus. And

20:57

he is simply a star. A marvelous

21:01

man—incidentally, the chief physician of a

21:04

large hospital in Moscow. Well, as a

21:07

doctor, frankly speaking, he's mediocre at best, he's

21:09

just one of those, well, from Soviet times,

21:11

nomenklatura types. His daddy was a big-name

21:14

doctor. Accordingly, this

21:16

spoiled little golden boy was sent abroad.

21:19

He came back and now has also landed

21:20

an administrative post. So, in other words,

21:22

a hereditary, uh, Soviet-style

21:24

nomenklatura figure, very brazen and very

21:26

pushy and also catastrophically, of course,

21:28

stupid, uh, and insolent.

21:31

So, the reason I

21:34

paid attention to his statement is simply that

21:36

because, well, fine, you can

21:37

be whatever kind of person you are, but you are supposedly

21:39

still a doctor, right? And the chief physician

21:43

of a major Moscow hospital. If you are

21:45

the chief physician, can you really reason in

21:48

such

21:50

categories, the way, I don't know,

21:52

not even a Christian but a pagan would, like,

21:55

yes, we all die. Everything that happens to us

21:57

is, you know, written in the

21:59

book of fate. And whatever measure is allotted to us,

22:04

that is what will happen to us. I mean,

22:05

whether you get treated or not, do something or don't,

22:09

try or don't try, you'll die anyway.

22:11

And it seems, honestly,

22:13

speaking, insane, but this is what is being said to us by

22:15

the official spokesperson on the topic of coronavirus.

22:17

49 seconds

22:19

Dr. Myasnikov and the book of fate.

22:22

You have your own life,

22:25

and it has been ordained by the Lord God. And you will die

22:27

when it is written in your book

22:29

of fate. You cannot do it either earlier

22:31

or later. It says there: "Don't

22:34

fuss, it will be so anyway." And

22:36

there is no point in being afraid of fear. What are you

22:38

afraid of? Dying. Remember, I read to you

22:41

about dying, but there in unknown forests there wanders

22:43

a husband/man, he waits and does not forgive. Before

22:46

your time, you will not die anyway. Therefore

22:48

live the life that has been allotted to you,

22:50

and don't listen to anyone. The only thing

22:53

you can do yourself, aside from what

22:56

is written in life's book of fate, is

22:58

to ruin your own mood. That's all. So

23:02

don't ruin it. Smile. Smile.

23:05

We will all die. God willing. We will die

23:08

an easy death. If not,

23:10

then we will atone.

23:12

Well, it really makes you want to say the classic

23:14

phrase: Excuse me, are you definitely a doctor? And

23:17

I'm curious—at the admissions desk in the hospital

23:20

headed by Dr. Myasnikov,

23:22

is that how it works? A person arrives

23:23

by ambulance, someone looks at him

23:25

with the same philosophical

23:26

mindset and says: "Hmm, it looks like in

23:29

your book of fate it is written that you

23:31

should be taken to the morgue." Or: "As for you,

23:33

it seems to me you might be worth treating."

23:36

Well, generally speaking, basically, whatever

23:38

is written there is written there. Or

23:40

let them just lie there in the ambulances. And this guy

23:42

didn't just, you know, say something stupid, he

23:44

is actually, uh, pushing this main line,

23:47

that, well, why are you even worrying about

23:48

this coronavirus, running around,

23:50

shouting on the internet, getting outraged.

23:53

Well, everyone who is meant to die will die.

23:56

12 seconds.

23:58

Just live. The infection will take its toll anyway.

24:00

It will take its toll. We will all

24:03

get sick sooner or later anyway.

24:06

Whoever is meant to die? They'll die. That's how they

24:08

all, all die.

24:12

I am seriously suggesting that this be

24:14

written, say, on the hospital in

24:16

Kommunarka (the Moscow infectious-disease hospital) or, really, on every

24:17

Russian hospital right at the entrance, the way

24:20

slogans were written at concentration camps,

24:22

like "work makes you free." So let them

24:24

write: everyone who is meant

24:26

to die will die, so that a person simply

24:29

has no inflated

24:31

expectations of Russian medicine, of

24:33

doctors. So it would be clear right away: everyone

24:35

who is meant to die will die. But really,

24:37

this man, with his, well, some kind of

24:41

this sort of

24:43

cheap attempt at philosophizing—he is

24:46

the chief physician, he is the main man on

24:48

coronavirus. What on earth are you talking about? The head of Moscow healthcare

24:51

should be telling him that,

24:53

and so should other

24:55

officials. But no, he just

24:56

keeps saying things, just, well, just babbling on

24:59

and on. That's why he has actually become

25:01

such a huge sensation right now, uh, such a

25:04

mega-celebrity. And I can just see how

25:07

uh, all the top-tier

25:11

suppliers of nonsense, the ones

25:14

the internet loves, and Twitter especially,

25:16

are just smoking nervously on the sidelines

25:18

across the country, because Dr. Myasnikov, he

25:20

is on fire, and his little videos with his

25:22

statements are just spreading

25:24

everywhere. And in fact he is also some kind of

25:27

astonishing liar who

25:30

has, well, this talent for convincingly

25:34

spouting ultra-mega nonsense. Let's listen to

25:36

how he explains how things work

25:37

an American hospital, because

25:38

an American hospital is a branch of Hell.

25:41

You know, they shoot there in

25:43

the wards, they shoot in the emergency room, there

25:45

it happens all the time. You walk into

25:46

an American hospital, and, uh, there’s just

25:48

someone shooting, or someone has

25:50

like, a knife in their heart, I mean, well,

25:52

the hospital there is Sklif (the Sklifosovsky Emergency Medicine Institute in Moscow). Come to Sklif,

25:55

they probably regularly bring in

25:57

people with knives in their hearts there too, but in

25:59

an American hospital, in any one of them, this

26:01

just happens constantly, because

26:02

Dr. Myasnikov saw it with his own

26:04

eyes. 1 minute 11 seconds.

26:06

In New York, there are several large

26:08

hospital monsters that are

26:10

overcrowded. Really, it’s hell. There

26:13

they shoot right in the ward, they shoot in

26:17

the emergency room. I’m a personal witness. There

26:20

is a situation where you’re on duty, sitting there,

26:22

a gunshot, the door opens. A woman runs in,

26:24

holding her stomach, and collapses in front of you. You

26:26

look at her. But why? This one

26:27

shot me. I personally

26:29

had that happen. It happened to me personally. I

26:31

talked about it with my doctor, she’s from

26:34

Armenia, a man comes running in, you’re like

26:37

stunned, and another one comes after him and

26:39

shoots at him. And we’re standing right in the line of fire

26:41

like this. This is a hospital. This is so it’s clear

26:43

what an American

26:45

hospital is, where every night, if I see

26:48

it filling up with police officers, then I

26:50

understand that a police officer has been shot,

26:51

because they’re bringing in a colleague.

26:53

it starts, where all the time these patients

26:54

are handcuffed by one arm to— It’s a branch of hell.

26:58

It really is a branch of hell. When

27:02

they bring in a person, you push your way toward him through the nurses

27:03

through the crowd,

27:05

a big, healthy guy with his throat completely slit from ear

27:08

to ear. You look, still

27:11

shocked. And the nurse tells you: "You’re not

27:13

looking in the right place." You lower your eyes, and

27:15

his heart is sticking out, the knife handle goes

27:17

like this: thump-thump."

27:20

72,000 people are watching us live

27:21

on air. I hope you understood why all

27:23

this was being said: that it’s, uh, horrible,

27:26

horrible. If you ever have the chance

27:28

to choose between ending up in

27:30

an American hospital and the clinic of

27:32

Dr. Myasnikov, then of course go only

27:34

there, because there everything will be

27:35

wonderful. Well, of course, everything is written, basically,

27:37

in your book of fate, but nevertheless

27:40

this is, actually, jokes aside,

27:42

an important function: to keep lying about

27:45

how terrible everything is there, because, well, we

27:47

are simply outraged by what’s happening. We

27:49

say: "My God, we’re a fairly

27:50

rich country, why is there nothing?"

27:53

Why is everything falling apart? Why are ventilators

27:55

catching fire?" And to that, Malysheva replies.

27:57

They say: "What, do you think that over there

27:59

the salaries are high?" As I showed in

28:01

the last program, in the one before that

28:02

program, when there was that segment with Malysheva.

28:04

There, yes, it comes out to 40,000 if

28:06

you convert it into rubles as take-home pay. The same

28:09

thing Myasnikov says: "What, do you

28:10

think it’s good there? Sure, our

28:12

ventilators catch fire, and this many burned,

28:14

six people died. But on the other hand, in

28:16

an American hospital in New York

28:17

they shoot there too. You just walk in, and

28:20

bullets are whistling over your head. And

28:23

most people just say that

28:25

this idiot is talking nonsense. But some people do believe it.

28:29

Some people do believe it. And that’s exactly what it’s designed for,

28:31

so that those who believe it will go

28:34

to the polls in the end and vote. It’s this

28:36

small part of the population that

28:38

understands nothing, that is ready

28:40

to believe people like Myasnikov, that will once again

28:43

determine the future of our country, because

28:45

it will vote for its vile, disgusting

28:47

party, United Russia, Solovyov’s fist. And

28:51

you’ve seen, of course, that cool video of

28:53

Vladimir Solovyov, who

28:54

demonstrates his super punch that

28:57

would knock absolutely anyone down. And apparently

28:59

that’s where Solovyov’s fist comes from. Alexei asks me:

29:01

Alexei. Rosneft’s lawsuit against RBC for 43 billion

29:05

rubles (about 43 billion RUB). Is this a challenge to the Russian media, or what

29:06

are they trying to achieve with it? Well, it’s obvious

29:09

what they’re trying to achieve. The company

29:11

Rosneft, with Sechin personally, uh, through his

29:15

press drunk—remember, there was that

29:17

Leontyev, uh, journalist, always this kind of

29:20

half-drunk guy who kept spouting all kinds of

29:22

nonsense. Uh, he was probably most

29:24

famous for the fact that on air

29:27

—not live, on his

29:28

first program on Channel One

29:30

he was showing satellite images, supposedly,

29:32

of fighter jets that shot down the Malaysian

29:34

Boeing. All of this seemed, well, of course,

29:37

all of it seemed like lies—what kind of

29:38

satellite images of planes in flight? But

29:41

nevertheless, he showed them

29:43

and convincingly claimed that it was true.

29:45

And now he works for the company

29:47

Rosneft. Sechin and his people have this strategy,

29:50

without question: to crush and bankrupt

29:54

everyone who writes something

29:56

bad about them. But journalists are frightened that

29:59

a lawsuit for 43 billion rubles is possible. Even if

30:01

it gets reduced forty-threefold, that

30:04

would mean that RBC would cease

30:06

to exist. And RBC is already a fairly

30:08

censored media outlet. Well, the same goes—also

30:10

they act this way toward Vedomosti as well,

30:13

toward everyone. So by now, in fact,

30:14

everyone has gotten the message and nobody writes anything,

30:18

because he won’t just simply

30:20

bankrupt you like that—he’ll take your publication away afterward.

30:22

for themselves. Ah, and since people are asking me about the petition,

30:26

I'll say a few words about it. Uh, Viktor

30:29

asks: "Alexei, why are they now

30:30

considering holding a

30:32

parade in June? If the date marking the end of

30:34

World War II, and therefore the parade as well,

30:36

was moved to September 3. Guys,

30:39

don't look for logic in this. There is absolutely no

30:42

logic here. It's just that in Putin's head, and in the heads of the people

30:45

who work with him, there is

30:46

a certain construct. And they genuinely believe that

30:49

when they hold a parade and once again

30:52

spend some absurd amount of money on it

30:54

in rubles, everyone will get so inspired that they'll go

30:59

and vote for Putin's constitution.

31:02

So, uh, they'll come up with some date. I

31:05

think that, most likely, it will

31:06

happen on June 24, or maybe September

31:09

3. Or it'll be some other date, I don't

31:11

know, August 6, 7, or 28. They'll also

31:15

come up with some kind of heroic

31:17

date, but in any case we'll once again see

31:20

this hysteria. "A parade, we must

31:23

hold a parade." Why? There will still

31:24

be a parade next May 9 (Victory Day) anyway,

31:27

so why can't they hold the parade next

31:30

year? They can't, because

31:32

they believe that when you see a parade on

31:35

television, you get up, go to the

31:38

polling station, and vote for

31:41

Putin. Well, presumably this is backed up by

31:43

some kind of sociological research

31:45

or something else, because, well, in

31:47

principle, there will probably be an Immortal Regiment march

31:50

that day, and they'll start running around and

31:52

shouting: "On the day of the Immortal Regiment

31:54

let's stop talking about anything

31:56

else. Let's speak only about the most, most

31:58

sacred things, about the fallen,

32:00

blah blah blah blah blah." In other words,

32:02

this is simply an attempt to appropriate

32:06

the victory, to appropriate all those

32:09

heroic sacrifices of the Russian and Soviet

32:11

people, and by using all of that,

32:14

that truly sacred thing, to resolve

32:16

the issue of getting people to vote for Putin,

32:19

when, generally speaking, hardly anyone

32:21

really wants to vote at all.

32:23

I was just telling you

32:29

[music]

32:39

it looks like we're live again. I haven't

32:41

told you this, but over the last few

32:43

shows we've really been in a kind of battle

32:44

for the broadcast. It's pretty funny, because

32:47

they've started cutting off my home internet. And it's

32:51

very funny. We ask

32:52

the provider: "By the way, how many people

32:54

dropped off? Please show me

32:55

how many are watching." So,

32:56

it looked like about 75,000 people were watching when, uh,

32:59

everything cut out. They'll tell me the new

33:02

number in a moment. But in any

33:04

case, the point is this:

33:06

the provider started saying, "You know,

33:07

there seem to be some problems with your panel or

33:11

something somewhere." These

33:13

"problems" start exactly at 8:00 p.m. Here,

33:17

this time they started a little later, but

33:20

to be honest, we had originally

33:22

planned a backup setup, because

33:24

we understood that, uh, of course the authorities

33:27

would try to shut us down. The fairly

33:29

obvious solution is simply to cut off

33:30

my home internet and take my

33:32

show off the air, each episode of which

33:34

now, thanks so much to you, is watched by

33:36

more than a million viewers. It really

33:37

irritates the Kremlin, Putin, and everyone

33:39

else. So they were cutting off my home

33:41

internet. We had a clever backup

33:43

scheme. Today, half an hour before the

33:46

show, they sent me photos. I won't

33:49

go into the details of how we set it

33:51

up. Well, actually, I could

33:52

tell you. In short, we installed a

33:54

transmitting antenna there, and somewhere else they

33:57

found it and cut it out. They simply stole

33:59

the transmitter, cut all the

34:02

wires clean off, ripped everything out, and

34:06

half a day later, half an hour before the broadcast, we were left

34:08

without internet. But it seems we managed

34:11

to restore it using yet another backup

34:13

scheme. I hope our

34:16

broadcast won't crash again before the end, and that I'll still

34:18

be able to finish the stream. Uh, does this

34:22

annoy me? Absolutely, it annoys me a lot,

34:23

but they really are just blatantly

34:25

cutting off my home internet with complete impunity.

34:27

My provider is Rostelecom, by the way,

34:28

Rostelecom. As far as I can tell, they just

34:30

go ahead and individually cut off

34:32

my internet, Alexei Navalny's, in my apartment,

34:34

they shut off the internet, they steal

34:36

the transmitter. In other words, they're simply

34:38

engaging in this kind of, uh, petty

34:40

criminality. Though of course, at the same time,

34:43

I honestly feel a slight sense of

34:46

self-satisfaction and gratification from the fact

34:49

that our show irritates them

34:52

so much. So once again, thank you very

34:54

much for watching it, for asking me

34:56

questions, and for sharing this

34:58

link. So they switched it off. But it

35:01

didn't work. Last time they tried

35:02

to shut us down, and it didn't work. Nor the time before that.

35:04

So for the last three times, we've really had

35:07

an ongoing

35:08

competition over who can knock out whom

35:11

using technical means.

35:13

Though maybe I'm bragging too soon,

35:15

maybe they'll do something now. They're

35:16

perfectly capable of, I don't know, switching off all the cell

35:18

towers around the house

35:21

in order to

35:23

take my stream down. Anyway, before I got

35:25

cut off, I was saying that you should definitely

35:26

watch Volkov's video,

35:28

and subscribe to his channel, because he

35:30

explains very clearly what is happening

35:32

with mortality right now. And I’ll repeat that

35:35

what I said last time—this

35:37

lie about how in Russia

35:39

very few people were dying—will be the main thing

35:42

they will keep saying ahead of

35:44

the constitutional vote. Every time

35:45

someone even starts to say, “You

35:47

failed at everything, your Putin failed at everything

35:50

in a crisis situation,” they will

35:51

reply: “Failed? What? How dare you

35:55

even say that? You know, this is

35:58

like desecrating the Immortal Regiment

36:00

(the annual Russian march commemorating WWII veterans) and saying that Putin failed at everything.

36:03

After all, mortality in Russia is 10

36:05

times lower than in all the other countries.”

36:08

They will lie about this. And that is why

36:09

let’s watch a minute and a half of Volkov’s video, but

36:11

please go and watch the whole thing.

36:13

Russia’s official coronavirus statistics

36:15

are lying. It is as obvious as

36:18

two times two is four. The state’s lies

36:20

are bad and criminal in themselves,

36:22

but in our case they also

36:25

lead to tragic consequences.

36:27

The official charts published by

36:29

many Russian regions have an

36:31

artificial rather than natural pattern.

36:34

In real life, under no circumstances

36:35

can a real chart of detected cases under

36:38

genuine and conscientious testing

36:40

look the way it does in

36:42

Krasnodar Krai, or the way it does in

36:45

Lipetsk Oblast, or in Kursk, or

36:49

in Kabardino-Balkaria,

36:51

or in Moscow Oblast. All these

36:54

figures are simply made up. A real

36:56

chart looks like a hedgehog, with

36:58

spikes sticking out in different

37:00

directions. Why? Because in

37:02

the real world, the detection of many

37:03

cases is affected by a large number of

37:05

random factors pulling in different directions.

37:08

The available open data not only

37:10

collectively paint a vivid, unmistakable picture

37:13

of the total falsehood of Russian medical

37:14

statistics, but also make it possible to

37:17

estimate, more or less accurately, the true scale

37:19

of the disaster that has struck Russia. We are talking

37:22

about roughly 20,000 deaths, but

37:25

in about six out of seven cases, the

37:27

deceased are listed as having died from other causes.

37:30

The main problem is that

37:32

distorted, falsified data

37:35

are being used as the basis for long-term conclusions and

37:38

decisions. If the authorities do not

37:40

immediately revise their

37:43

approach to the numbers and to the management decisions

37:45

made on their basis, there will be

37:47

even more victims. Tens of thousands of lives

37:50

will be on Putin’s conscience.

37:54

Leonid Volkov’s channel. The link will be below.

37:56

Subscribe and watch the video. Roman

37:58

Artyukhov asks: “Alexei,

38:00

switch to another provider.” Well,

38:02

I will. But only if we’re talking about

38:03

ordinary home internet in an apartment.

38:06

First, I have a limited choice of

38:08

providers. Second, obviously,

38:09

any provider will disconnect me,

38:11

because every provider is completely

38:14

dependent on the FSB (Russia’s security service) and, more broadly, on this

38:16

law-enforcement system. And in that

38:18

sense, no new provider will

38:20

help me. But still, still,

38:22

I’m on the air. You’re watching me.

38:24

So apparently there is still some technical

38:26

ability for us to keep broadcasting.

38:29

69,000 people are watching me live

38:32

—the numbers are recovering. I hope we

38:33

get back to where we were. So,

38:38

I see a lot, a lot of questions.

38:42

Kantslerka Gorchakova: The authorities jail people

38:44

for emotional social media posts.

38:45

Meanwhile, Poznyakov is engaged in inciting

38:47

hatred, propaganda, fascism,

38:50

harassment, and violence. Will anything

38:52

at all be done against him? Uh, well,

38:55

please comment on the situation with Poznyakov.”

38:56

Katabulka Klubnichnaya asks. I have

38:58

a lot of questions about this. And I can’t

39:01

say that I know the situation in detail,

39:03

but as far as I understand, there is this guy

39:05

named Poznyakov, he has a public page on

39:08

VKontakte, and I think he also

39:10

heads this strange organization

39:12

called Male State.

39:16

Uh, mainly it is engaged in,

39:19

well, I used to think it was engaged in

39:21

trolling feminists, but in fact

39:22

what they are doing, as far as I

39:25

understand, has by now turned into outright

39:27

cybercrime,

39:29

harassing people online. In

39:30

particular, their latest stunt, if you can

39:33

call it that, is that

39:35

some unfortunate woman who

39:36

worked as a teacher, uh, somewhere in

39:40

a school or university, apparently

39:42

a hundred years ago

39:43

appeared in some porn video, and they found

39:45

it, posted it everywhere, sent it to her

39:48

workplace, sent it to her children, sent it

39:50

to everyone. I mean,

39:54

first of all, that is everyone’s private business,

39:55

second, it is a private matter for each person’s family,

39:57

third, nobody knows

39:58

what circumstances she had in life

40:00

that may have forced her into it. In any

40:03

case, this is none of

40:05

Poznyakov’s business, none of

40:07

Male State’s business, and most importantly,

40:10

I believe this is a very real

40:11

crime. I mean, you cannot

40:14

do this, and it should be—and it is

40:15

illegal. But there are a lot of

40:17

questions here about, basically, what can

40:19

be done about him. Again, I can’t say

40:22

that I know the situation in detail, as far as

40:23

I understand it, he simply lives somewhere in

40:25

another country. And in that sense, well,

40:27

he is doing this because he believes he has

40:29

some kind of right to do it there,

40:32

some moral right, or he thinks this is

40:34

an expression of free speech. But in any

40:37

case, what can I say? It is a rather

40:38

disgusting act. And from my point

40:41

of view, this is unquestionably a crime. And

40:45

what kind of pleasure, really, can a person

40:49

possibly get from simply attacking

40:50

this unfortunate woman and trying

40:52

to destroy her life now?

40:56

to make her child's life much harder.

40:58

They are practically sending these photos

41:00

to the children in his class. I mean, this is

41:02

just, frankly, the work of some

41:04

perverts doing this kind of crap. And

41:07

I am ashamed that they are engaged in

41:08

this. And, well, unquestionably, this is,

41:10

without a doubt, a crime.

41:12

Of course, legally speaking, right now,

41:15

as far as I understand, there is nothing

41:17

that can be done to him because he is

41:18

abroad. But, well, then, simply,

41:22

maybe at the very least, we should not

41:25

help him spread

41:28

this information, because after all

41:30

he is counting on publicity. Although, on the other

41:32

hand, of course, these things need to be

41:34

condemned, and the people who condemn them are doing the right thing. So, I have

41:35

a lot of questions about the petition, but I will say more about it later.

41:39

Right now Sergio Pogano

41:42

is asking me:

41:45

"Alexei, the petition

41:47

has collected 100,000 signatures. Does it still make sense

41:49

to keep collecting signatures, including

41:51

on Change.org and VKontakte? Of course, yes.

41:54

Well, first of all, it is not difficult. Second,

41:57

continuing to collect signatures is a kind of

42:00

political act that shows

42:02

that we continue

42:04

to demand cash compensation

42:07

for people and direct aid for businesses,

42:09

because, well, excuse me, I am still

42:11

broadcasting this livestream from home, not from

42:13

the office, because I am forbidden to leave

42:14

my home. And many of you are forbidden

42:17

to leave your homes, while you are still buying masks

42:18

with your own money, and

42:21

you are required to buy them with your own money, and

42:23

so on and so forth. Tens of millions of people are still

42:26

sitting without

42:29

any income, so we have done this. Once

42:31

again, thank you all very much. We collected these

42:33

100,000 despite the fact that they

42:35

tried very hard to obstruct us; we collected hundreds

42:37

of thousands, and there are already several million

42:39

signatures on other platforms. We need

42:40

to keep doing this, and most importantly,

42:42

to keep talking about it, because

42:45

many people are getting the impression:

42:46

"So, like, isn't the coronavirus

42:48

almost over already?"

42:51

No, unfortunately not. And it will still be with

42:55

us for several more months. And everyone's incomes

42:59

will fall. And in fact, direct

43:01

cash compensation is absolutely relevant

43:03

and even more urgent now. And our demand remains

43:05

to make payments for April,

43:08

to make payments for May and June, to all people,

43:13

who have been affected, absolutely everyone. And

43:14

to pay children 10,000 rubles each (about $110). To everyone,

43:17

not just

43:19

those who are receiving payments now, but

43:21

specifically from age three to sixteen. Payments should be made

43:23

to absolutely everyone. We continue to uphold

43:25

this demand. 76,000 people are watching us

43:28

live, which means more

43:29

than before the stream cut out. Hooray! Thank you very much for

43:31

joining us.

43:33

What should we call them in the Kremlin?

43:34

Kremlin crooks, or I don't know,

43:36

Kremlin riffraff. They cut us off, but we still

43:39

came back on. We rose from the ashes.

43:42

Let's talk about Vladimir Vladimirovich

43:44

Promisekin.

43:46

I gave

43:49

an interview to Radio Svoboda (Radio Liberty). Sergei

43:51

Medvedev is a great guy. He is

43:54

one of the professors, I think, at the Higher

43:55

School of Economics. And he asked me

43:58

a question there: "So, Alexei,

44:01

right now everyone is sitting at home, and we can see

44:03

that, of course, protest activity in

44:05

the country has declined, so what is

44:08

the opposition going to do? It's all so difficult, blah blah blah,

44:10

there are no protests."

44:12

That is absolutely, 100 percent not true." Well, I answered

44:15

that question somewhat incoherently,

44:17

and then I thought: "Well, of course,

44:18

we are all wise after the fact." And then I realized

44:24

that in fact, right now, in May 2020,

44:29

we are witnessing one of the highest

44:31

levels of protest activity,

44:34

and not just online, you know,

44:36

not just online where everyone furiously likes

44:39

opposition posts, but actually

44:42

practical activity, including street

44:45

activity. One of the highest

44:46

levels. Right now we are truly

44:49

witnessing an unprecedented confrontation

44:52

between the authorities and 3.5 million people,

44:56

at a minimum, including their family members, who

44:58

are Russian medical workers. And this

45:02

confrontation is also, well,

45:05

spilling out into the streets, because they

45:07

gather near their hospitals and

45:10

actually record public appeals. This is

45:12

a mass phenomenon. Every one of you has seen

45:14

such appeals: "My God, they are everywhere,

45:15

Instagram is full of them." That is, people

45:18

are gathering and, with varying degrees of

45:21

aggressiveness, they are demanding something. The

45:24

government has not seen anything like this. In all

45:27

the time I can remember, maybe in the 1990s

45:29

the miners did something similar, but in all these 20

45:32

In all the years of Putin's rule, he has never

45:34

faced such a massive reaction

45:36

from specific groups all across the country.

45:39

And that is very important. I want to

45:41

talk about it, because, well, Putin

45:44

makes promises and lies. He makes promises and lies. That's what

45:46

his entire rule is built on. He just

45:48

keeps promising. For 20 years he has been promising

45:51

all sorts of things. But now he has entered

45:53

a situation where there is this kind of

45:55

absolute specificity. He is not promising

45:57

something vague like building you a market

45:59

economy or getting rid of dependence on raw-material

46:01

exports, or fixing this or that, or

46:05

creating 25 million jobs. By that year, for

46:07

example, he clearly promised there would be 25

46:10

million high-tech jobs. But

46:13

who exactly did he promise that to? To you personally,

46:15

the viewer of this program, to the

46:17

76,000 people watching? No. I mean,

46:20

he just promised it in general, and then didn't

46:22

deliver. And everything else he promised, he also didn't

46:25

deliver. And yes, we get outraged, but somehow

46:28

there are no people who were personally

46:31

deceived, as if something was directly stolen from them. And

46:34

now this situation has developed because

46:36

with the coronavirus, everyone is shocked that

46:41

a huge number of doctors are falling ill,

46:44

a huge number of doctors are dying,

46:47

and doctors are simply, well, starting to

46:49

rear up in protest. Go and read,

46:51

if you haven't already, a great piece by

46:55

Mediazona (an independent Russian media outlet).

46:57

They analyzed all the doctors' deaths. Did you

47:00

know that doctors themselves keep this kind of

47:03

well, just a Google spreadsheet online,

47:04

and they enter the names of their

47:07

deceased colleagues there. And, well, everyone

47:10

knows that doctors themselves maintain it, so

47:12

there is no fraud there. But even so,

47:15

it always gives all those Kremlin

47:17

propagandists a reason to say, "Oh, that's just nonsense,

47:18

some list on the internet."

47:20

Anyone can make one, it's just a Google

47:21

document. I could create one tomorrow, and

47:23

it would have 1,000 names on it. Mediazona

47:26

went ahead and analyzed that entire

47:29

list in full. And, well, basically,

47:33

the numbers are catastrophic. They, they

47:35

removed some people from that

47:37

list because there were, for example,

47:38

doctors who had died, but their deaths were obviously

47:40

not related to coronavirus in any way. In the

47:42

end, they kept only those who died

47:46

directly from coronavirus. And

47:48

it turned out that 7% of those who died in Russia were

47:52

doctors, nurses, and other medical workers.

47:55

That is an enormous number, and it is simply

47:58

16 times higher than in those

48:02

countries that have a number of cases

48:04

comparable to ours. Where the epidemic has simply

48:06

reached a similar scale,

48:09

it is 16 times higher. This is just some kind of

48:12

catastrophe. And at the time the article was published,

48:17

in Russia, the total number of medical workers infected with coronavirus was

48:19

9,500. 9,500. So, basically,

48:24

right now the medical profession is very

48:27

dangerous. Being a doctor now is more dangerous than

48:30

being a police officer. I won't even say

48:31

it's more dangerous than being a

48:32

member of the National Guard (Rosgvardiya), because a Rosgvardiya officer

48:34

faces no danger at all. I don't know,

48:36

a miner, or anyone else.

48:39

A medical worker in Russia is now in the most dangerous

48:42

profession. And they are not being paid. And when

48:45

before, they were being paid 17,000

48:47

or 18,000 rubles a month,

48:49

well, they weren't paid, they weren't paid. No one is

48:51

paid properly in Russia, but here they pay 17,000

48:54

or maybe 25,000, or 40,000, and say:

48:56

"What a great salary you have, but you

48:59

are working at risk to your life." And that changed everything.

49:01

And here Putin is already forced

49:04

to respond. And when I said 3.5 million

49:06

people, in Russia 3.5 million people are

49:09

doctors, mid-level medical staff—

49:11

nurses, junior medical staff,

49:14

paramedics, plus drivers, and so on.

49:16

So that is 3.5 million people. Plus their family

49:18

members—they feel that, basically,

49:22

this has spread across the whole country, people are buzzing,

49:25

they are going to announce strikes. What does

49:27

Putin do? He comes out and starts making promises.

49:30

Promise number one, at 1 minute 19 seconds.

49:32

We have also provided additional

49:34

payments to doctors, nurses, and medical

49:38

personnel for special working conditions and

49:40

increased workloads.

49:42

More than 10 billion rubles from the federal budget have been allocated

49:44

for these purposes and will

49:47

be sent to the regions in the near future.

49:51

People must receive these payments

49:53

on time, without delays.

49:56

In addition, I consider it necessary

49:58

to implement one more measure, namely, for 3

50:02

months starting in April, to establish

50:06

a special federal payment for

50:07

specialists who directly

50:10

work with coronavirus patients and

50:13

risk their health every minute.

50:17

For doctors working directly with

50:19

patients infected with coronavirus,

50:21

this additional payment will amount to 80,000

50:24

rubles per month. For mid-level medical

50:27

staff, paramedics, and nurses, 50,000

50:31

rubles. For junior medical staff,

50:34

25,000 rubles per month.

50:37

As for ambulance doctors,

50:39

who also work with patients sick with

50:41

coronavirus, they will receive a payment of

50:44

50,000 rubles per month. Paramedics,

50:47

nurses, and ambulance crew and vehicle drivers will get

50:50

25,000 rubles.

50:54

81,000 people are watching us live.

50:55

And you saw it: an absolutely

50:57

traditional problem arises—

50:59

you need to do something, promise something,

51:01

lie. And then Putin comes out and says: "We

51:02

"we’ll pay everyone." Blah blah blah — he promised it,

51:04

made the promise, and left. But then his apparatus took over.

51:07

He knows those promises don’t have to be

51:10

kept. I mean, they never have been,

51:11

really. He promised something or other, and then

51:14

the wheeling and dealing begins. They

51:16

first issue a decree saying

51:18

that payments are supposed to go to everyone

51:21

who is in the risk zone. You see,

51:24

it’s underlined in red. Everyone who faces

51:27

the risk of infection. But after a while

51:30

they no longer feel like paying. That’s the,

51:32

you see, idiocy of our state:

51:35

there’s money — tons of it. And in principle, yes, they could

51:38

and should pay them all. But if this is

51:39

right now, in fact the riskiest

51:42

profession, if doctors are dying at a rate 16 times

51:46

higher than in developed countries, well,

51:49

then let’s pay them. Besides,

51:50

they weren’t promised a million rubles each, after all.

51:54

80,000 rubles to those working in

51:56

the red zone, 25,000 rubles to the driver:

51:59

"Come on, for God’s sake, that kind of money exists. It’s

52:02

not some astronomical sum, right? None of them is going to

52:03

become a millionaire, and nobody is going to

52:05

blow it all at a casino. Tomorrow they’ll go back to

52:07

being ambulance paramedics. No,

52:09

it’s not a huge amount — it can be paid. But

52:11

why pay, really? We never have

52:12

paid before. It’s always like the old man

52:14

promised something, and then they issue a new

52:16

decree saying that we pay,

52:19

but only to those who are directly

52:21

involved in treating patients with

52:23

COVID-19. And then the

52:26

wheeling and dealing begins,

52:28

so, an ambulance driver or

52:30

a paramedic — they spend all day transporting

52:33

patients. Obviously, half of those

52:34

patients have coronavirus, and he expects

52:36

to receive his 25,000 rubles afterward. But then he’s

52:39

told: "Well, you know, you transported

52:42

eight patients, and only one had a test

52:45

confirming coronavirus. And you transported him from

52:48

4:23 p.m.

52:51

17 seconds until 5:01

52:55

25 seconds? That’s the time we’ll pay you for".

52:58

So here is your

53:00

pay slip, and it says 45 rubles 27

53:04

kopecks." And naturally,

53:07

the internet was instantly flooded, because

53:09

a unique situation emerged:

53:12

it was simply

53:15

like, have you completely lost it? They had just

53:17

been promised, told: "You’re like people on the

53:19

front line, go on, we’ll pay all of you,

53:21

we’re counting on you." Everywhere people

53:24

put up badges: Thank you, doctors.

53:26

Margarita Simonyan launched a flash mob. Uh,

53:29

all sorts of things were said.

53:31

Of course they were promised awards, some kind of

53:33

badges, pennants, and everything else — but no money,

53:36

as usual, damn it. They just don’t pay,

53:38

that’s all. So medical workers started going out into the streets and

53:43

recording videos. And probably the most

53:45

telling example was the appeal

53:48

from medical workers in Armavir, because they didn’t

53:50

just say it — they said it in a, well,

53:52

creative way: "Well done." And I

53:55

therefore wrote a post on Instagram,

53:58

saying I applaud them. Really

53:59

well done. But on the other hand, it’s frustrating.

54:02

To force them to pay you your salary,

54:05

you apparently have to come up with some creative stunt,

54:07

I don’t know — soon you’ll probably have to dance

54:09

or sing or clap your hands

54:11

just to get someone’s attention. Let’s watch

54:14

the video from Armavir. Twenty seconds.

54:17

Let’s go.

54:18

Armavir ambulance service. We did not receive

54:24

the promised payments. Not the doctors, not the paramedics,

54:29

not the nurses, not the drivers — no one. Not

54:34

a single ruble, not a single kopeck.

54:38

And what can you even say against that? At this point

54:40

you can’t say something like, Navalny is spinning tales

54:43

with State Department money,

54:45

because this is the ambulance service in

54:48

Armavir. The ambulance service in Armavir drives

54:51

around the city of Armavir. And when they meet someone,

54:53

people ask them,

54:56

some grandmother asks: "How are you doing, kids?

54:57

" And they say: "Terribly,

54:59

grandma, that’s how we’re living. Because Putin isn’t

55:02

paying us our bonuses. So you,

55:04

grandma, should know that Putin is a liar and that

55:07

Putin is bad." And right away the situation

55:10

started to change. This was a mass

55:11

phenomenon, absolutely widespread. And then Putin

55:14

comes out and starts clarifying things.

55:19

He says, well, you know,

55:21

it turns out there was suddenly some

55:23

bureaucratic red tape. Thirty-one seconds.

55:26

Listen to me, listen carefully.

55:29

We agreed, and it was stated clearly and plainly

55:31

that this money must be paid

55:33

for work with patients suffering from

55:36

coronavirus infection, and not for

55:38

some hours, minutes, and so on. No,

55:41

they turned it into some kind of

55:44

bureaucratic mess. They started counting

55:46

something there, some hours. Did I tell them

55:49

to count hours or what?

55:51

No.

55:53

I hope, I hope that by

55:56

the end of today, if it hasn’t yet been done somewhere,

55:57

everything will be fully sorted out.

56:00

It’s just that

56:02

they immediately started turning the situation into the same

56:05

old classic: the good tsar, the bad

56:08

boyars (nobles). Your government wrote

56:11

that decree, didn’t it? Of course he knew.

56:13

Of course he knew what they had put in there,

56:15

because from the very beginning, on

56:17

television, they said: "We’ll pay everyone."

56:19

But among themselves they decided: "Well, this is just

56:21

like always. There’s a promise, but no implementation.

56:24

" How do you make it so that you

56:26

make a promise but don’t have to pay? By using little

56:28

write it out in words by hours and by

56:30

minutes. But the medics went out into the streets.

56:33

The medics started recording public appeals.

56:35

Let’s look at Irkutsk. Here’s the major city of

56:37

Irkutsk. They simply are not paying, that’s it. An appeal from

56:39

Irkutsk.

56:40

We, the ambulance service workers

56:42

of the city of Irkutsk, want to draw attention

56:45

to the fact that there is a constant failure to comply with

56:47

the directives of the President of the Russian

56:49

Federation, starting with the May decrees (a set of major presidential policy directives issued in May 2012).

56:52

The promised bonus payments of 25,000 and 50,000 rubles

56:56

as incentive compensation for special

56:58

working conditions during the COVID-19 pandemic

57:02

to all ambulance service workers

57:04

in the city of Irkutsk—to doctors,

57:06

paramedics, and drivers—as of 16/05

57:11

have not been paid.

57:15

So what can you even do with that? I mean,

57:17

you can lie as much as you want. But they’re out there

57:19

recording these messages—I could, in fact, show you many such videos here in the script.

57:21

There really are a lot of them. I just

57:23

don’t want to show them all. Although

57:25

honestly, I want to support every one of them,

57:28

yes. Because they post these videos on

57:31

Instagram. And all of Irkutsk, all of

57:33

Vladimir Region, all of Krasnodar

57:35

knows that, yes, they are not paying a damn thing. Even

57:37

to the medics now on the front line,

57:40

blah blah blah, ‘thank you doctors,’ but they’re not paying

57:43

a kopeck. They held back 25,000 rubles there,

57:46

held back 80,000 rubles from those going into this

57:48

red zone. That is, people who are literally

57:52

in this risk zone,

57:54

a zone of mortal risk. They withheld it and didn’t pay. And

57:57

they still are not paying. And this, of course, is

57:59

the huge confrontation that

58:02

is happening right now. What’s interesting is that

58:06

how

58:08

they seem afraid to toy with this even in those very

58:11

moments when something slips out like

58:14

‘what are they demanding from us there,’

58:16

and how quickly they backpedal.

58:18

A telling story happened in Perm.

58:20

There, the health minister

58:23

is holding a meeting. And at this

58:25

meeting, naturally, someone from the ambulance service

58:27

says, “You haven’t paid us.” And

58:31

the head doctor of that ambulance service is sitting there and

58:33

mocks him. Well, the head doctor’s salary

58:35

is huge. And he imitates him—or rather, not

58:38

exactly imitates, but, you know,

58:40

he makes these gestures like

58:42

‘look at our fighters over there, demanding

58:44

something,’ smirking. Let’s watch this

58:46

little clip—they’ve already deleted

58:48

it. But every move was recorded. 26

58:50

seconds.

58:51

You handled it incorrectly. Every

58:53

employee, as in Vladimir, should

58:56

receive 25,000 rubles each. That’s for doctors, and

58:59

mid-level medical staff

59:00

must unconditionally receive their

59:02

11,000, and then there will be no

59:04

discord.

59:06

And as I understand it, our trade union

59:09

is doing absolutely nothing. And things will move

59:13

off dead center only when we

59:15

turn to other unions.

59:19

Well, you see, he put on a bit of an act,

59:20

but all the medics were watching that livestream.

59:22

And the comments

59:24

were exactly what you’d expect, like, ‘Are you

59:26

out of your mind? You’re not paying people

59:29

their money, and when they get upset, you

59:31

mock them as if this were some kind of game.’ Well,

59:33

for him, those 25,000 rubles are genuinely

59:36

very important. It’s his tiny,

59:40

microscopic payment for the deadly, without

59:42

exaggeration, risk he faces

59:46

every day.

59:48

He recorded an apology, because they immediately

59:50

understood that you cannot play games with things like this.

59:52

Here are 30 seconds of how this

59:54

head doctor apologized for those

59:57

gestures of his.

59:58

Quite often, decisions have to be made

1:00:00

in emergency mode. And unfortunately, I,

1:00:03

like everyone else, am not immune to mistakes,

1:00:05

or emotional reactions to what is happening.

1:00:10

If my behavior yesterday offended anyone,

1:00:13

I ask your forgiveness.

1:00:17

for my rather sharp reaction

1:00:21

I was emotional.

1:00:25

Thank you. Wishing you good health.

1:00:29

Of course, the authorities want to suppress all of this.

1:00:31

And suppress it in their usual way.

1:00:33

And of course, Krasnodar immediately

1:00:35

stepped in the way it usually does. So, at the

1:00:37

Abinsk Central District Hospital

1:00:39

people recorded a similar video appeal about

1:00:42

the fact that they had not received the payments. Here are

1:00:44

21 seconds. Let’s watch what

1:00:47

the doctors said.

1:00:49

We, the ambulance workers of Abinsky

1:00:51

District in Krasnodar Krai, state that

1:00:53

the payments promised by our president

1:00:56

had not been transferred to us as of May 18, 2020.

1:01:00

The management of Abinsk Central District Hospital is trying to

1:01:03

convince us that no payments

1:01:05

are due to us.

1:01:07

We

1:01:07

are being paid nothing.

1:01:12

What do the local authorities do? What does

1:01:14

the local police do? They bring these doctors

1:01:16

a warning about the inadmissibility of

1:01:19

extremist activity by medical workers

1:01:22

who complained about the lack of

1:01:24

payments. So people are literally saying:

1:01:26

“We are not being paid the Putin-promised,

1:01:28

repeatedly promised bonuses.” And they

1:01:31

say: “Yes, they are being paid. In that case, we are warning you

1:01:32

not to engage in

1:01:34

extremist activity.” And

1:01:35

at the same time, the game began. They started

1:01:37

paying those who were protesting,

1:01:40

they paid them.

1:01:42

And at the same time, they are also trying to, well,

1:01:44

who can do more to please the federal authorities,

1:01:48

at the same time, they are trying both to

1:01:49

intimidate them and, at the same time, pay them,

1:01:51

because, well, the situation really is

1:01:54

for Putin, for this entire government,

1:01:55

explosive. I’ve been getting a lot of, uh,

1:01:58

messages from medical workers asking, basically, what should we do?

1:02:02

Please explain what needs to be done.

1:02:05

The main question is that people genuinely do not

1:02:06

understand whether they are entitled to these bonuses or not

1:02:09

because there are two government resolutions

1:02:11

and they say that payments must be made

1:02:13

to those who directly

1:02:14

interact with coronavirus patients. There is

1:02:16

another government resolution, and fewer people

1:02:18

read it, but that is exactly the one that needs

1:02:20

to be read, because it states very clearly, let me

1:02:22

show it again, please, it says

1:02:24

underlined in red, that payments are due

1:02:27

to everyone who falls into the risk group

1:02:30

for infection.

1:02:32

So, dear medical workers, dear

1:02:35

relatives of medical workers and friends of medical workers,

1:02:37

who can forward this video,

1:02:40

to medical staff, doctors,

1:02:42

uh,

1:02:44

ambulance drivers, or simply

1:02:46

hospital employees. You know that

1:02:47

there are hospital employees such as,

1:02:49

for example, someone working at reception—

1:02:51

a woman at the front desk who is not formally a medical worker

1:02:54

by status. I mean, what does she do at

1:02:55

reception? She sits there, and people come up to her

1:02:57

and say, "Dear, how do I

1:03:00

get an appointment with such-and-such doctor?" She

1:03:02

fills out their file for them, and then

1:03:05

the next person comes in and coughs on her.

1:03:07

Then, of course,

1:03:09

all the people who are currently working in

1:03:12

medical institutions and who

1:03:14

interact with people share

1:03:17

this risk and danger. Therefore,

1:03:20

the position is very clear: payments should be made

1:03:24

to everyone. No—if you are asking yourself

1:03:27

the question, "Should I be paid?" the answer is:

1:03:29

yes, you should be paid. What should you

1:03:32

do? First of all, pay attention to

1:03:35

the medical union’s resources created specifically for you.

1:03:37

A brief digression: how incredibly

1:03:40

happy I am that I turned out to be right. And all of us

1:03:43

turned out to be right when, 2 months ago,

1:03:45

we were running around shouting, "We will

1:03:48

support the medical union."

1:03:49

We raised money here for protective

1:03:51

equipment, we were outraged, and we said that

1:03:54

infected doctors would become sources

1:03:56

of infection for everyone. How right we were.

1:03:59

We were right in absolutely every word. We,

1:04:02

there was the medical union. Now everyone

1:04:04

has seen that we were absolutely right.

1:04:07

And so, once again, thank you to everyone who

1:04:09

supported the Doctors’ Alliance. They launched

1:04:11

a project, a special map. So

1:04:13

step number one: what should

1:04:17

every medical worker and every hospital employee

1:04:18

do? Go there, and there is

1:04:21

a special map of these violations.

1:04:23

Select your issue and report what is

1:04:25

happening to you. Let’s take a look. Uh,

1:04:28

here is one minute from one of the appeals in the

1:04:30

video instructions for this website, which

1:04:32

was created by the Doctors’ Alliance.

1:04:34

A new feature has appeared on the medical inspection website:

1:04:36

an interactive map. On it, we

1:04:39

will mark problems, both new and

1:04:41

resolved. Now everyone, from an ordinary

1:04:44

citizen onward,

1:04:53

You see, I was bragging to you that we

1:04:55

would beat the Kremlin and be able to stream without

1:04:58

interruptions, but that’s not

1:05:00

working out. We’re back on the air again, but

1:05:03

every time it takes

1:05:05

some effort, because they are

1:05:08

doing all sorts of cunning

1:05:10

things. To be honest, I don’t understand it all that well.

1:05:11

We have a technical

1:05:12

team—many thanks to them—that is

1:05:14

dealing with this right now. But here I am,

1:05:16

back, and probably some number of people

1:05:19

dropped off the stream again.

1:05:21

Anyway, back to what I was saying. It is very important

1:05:24

to

1:05:24

understand a few things. First, go

1:05:28

to the union’s map and indicate

1:05:30

your problem. Second,

1:05:33

attention: the most important thing you need to

1:05:35

do. If you are a doctor, a medical worker, and so

1:05:37

on, and you are not being paid these bonuses, you

1:05:39

must sit down and write a statement by

1:05:42

hand saying: I, so-and-so, work

1:05:45

there and face a risk of infection,

1:05:48

a direct risk, which I want to notify you about,

1:05:52

and I want to receive the bonus payment,

1:05:54

and submit this to the chief physician. And you can

1:05:57

also send it to the prosecutor’s office, because

1:05:59

the thing is, these people keep asking me,

1:06:01

sweetly, "How do

1:06:03

we know? It’s Putin’s fault, not the officials’—

1:06:05

they are refusing to carry out his orders." Well,

1:06:07

of course, you see, Putin bangs

1:06:10

his fist on the table, and the officials

1:06:12

refuse to carry out orders.

1:06:14

The officials were not given the money; the officials

1:06:16

were instructed to pay as little as possible,

1:06:19

so they are twisting themselves into knots. Abuse number two:

1:06:22

abuse number one is calculating it by

1:06:24

the minute. And abuse number two is that

1:06:26

in every specific case,

1:06:28

the chief physician issues a local order and

1:06:31

writes: "This person has a risk of infection, but

1:06:34

this one does not." Therefore, you

1:06:36

must submit a statement and write that

1:06:39

I believe that I am at risk of infection

1:06:42

and I demand to be paid. Until you do that,

1:06:45

they will not include you anywhere

1:06:47

on their own. And most importantly, just do not

1:06:50

stay silent. And right now, we have, I don’t know,

1:06:52

how many of us are left before we

1:06:54

...dropped off; 84,000 people watched it through live.

1:06:56

broadcast. Ah, well, it has started. And now,

1:06:59

how many? Please show me.

1:07:02

Still, yes, 80—more than eighty

1:07:05

thousand are still watching us. We started with

1:07:07

30,000. At the beginning of the broadcast I showed

1:07:10

a very important document. Please show

1:07:11

it again, if you can find it for me right now,

1:07:13

uh, the letter from the minister of the Moscow

1:07:16

Region, which he sent and in which he

1:07:19

explains in what cases it is not allowed

1:07:22

to build, specifically, near

1:07:24

certain homes, sand quarries and so on

1:07:26

and so forth. Can you show me that letter?

1:07:29

What, did we cut out again?

1:07:36

I can’t tell whether I’m live or not.

1:07:39

Ah yes, here’s the letter. Look, here

1:07:41

they write that if people who

1:07:44

have high social status and

1:07:46

wealth are involved, they must not be inconvenienced. And

1:07:48

the second page of this letter says that

1:07:51

sand quarries can be built where there is

1:07:54

a low level of protest activity.

1:07:57

So doctors and everyone else: if you have

1:08:00

a low level of protest

1:08:02

activity, you’ll get nothing. Meanwhile,

1:08:05

everyone who protests and records these

1:08:06

videos will get paid, I have no doubt, because

1:08:09

they’re afraid you’ll disrupt the vote,

1:08:12

that you really will simply

1:08:13

tank United Russia’s ratings in every

1:08:16

specific area. Still, a protesting hospital

1:08:18

really is in some

1:08:20

village, town, and so on. It can

1:08:22

lower the level of

1:08:25

voting for United Russia or for

1:08:26

President Putin by several percentage points. They are terribly

1:08:28

afraid of that. So if you protest,

1:08:31

they’ll pay. If you don’t protest,

1:08:34

they won’t. That’s how the system works, because

1:08:36

they do not want to pay and do not consider it

1:08:38

necessary to pay. And for them, really, it is

1:08:41

some kind of critical, almost

1:08:43

hostile act. To pay wages

1:08:46

to anyone in Russia is like, you know,

1:08:50

paying tribute to the enemy. Because the population—

1:08:53

really, any people who demand

1:08:55

something—are seen as collective enemies

1:08:58

who must be fought, and they do fight them.

1:09:01

And when you put something out, you—

1:09:05

you start fighting them, and they

1:09:06

are afraid of open battles and begin to

1:09:08

pay you. My personal political

1:09:10

advice is this: if they absolutely won’t

1:09:12

pay, if they don’t want to pay you, make

1:09:14

a video appeal. Of course, it’s better if you make it

1:09:16

interesting, like that Armavir

1:09:18

hospital did. But, I repeat, this is a

1:09:20

humiliating kind of advice in some sense,

1:09:22

basically: sing and dance for your own

1:09:24

money. Better, perhaps,

1:09:26

you know what to do? Just

1:09:27

record an appeal saying that

1:09:29

if we are not paid, then on the gates,

1:09:33

on the doors of our hospital, we will hang a

1:09:35

notice saying that our

1:09:37

hospital opposes the United Russia party

1:09:41

and opposes extending the powers of

1:09:43

Putin. And to every person who

1:09:46

comes to us, the staff of our

1:09:48

hospital will say: "Do not vote

1:09:51

for United Russia, vote against it, and do not

1:09:54

vote for extending the powers of

1:09:55

Putin." Then vehicles with flashing lights

1:09:59

will come racing to you, loaded

1:10:01

with money, and they will pay your wages.

1:10:04

Because that is what they fear most of all.

1:10:07

They are afraid that you will destroy their

1:10:10

ratings, and they are ready to—there’s a sea of money

1:10:13

in the budget, a sea of it. But they will give it only to those

1:10:16

who fight for it. So, uh, Oleg, why

1:10:20

is there this difference in payments between a doctor, a driver,

1:10:23

and an orderly, if they all work in the same risk zone?

1:10:25

Is that fair? Well, actually,

1:10:27

it is fair, because there are

1:10:29

people who are in the red zone,

1:10:31

dealing directly with coronavirus patients, and there are

1:10:34

people who simply face a somewhat lower

1:10:35

level of risk. In principle, I agree

1:10:37

that everyone should be paid more overall.

1:10:40

Without question, everyone should be paid more,

1:10:42

not to mention that, well,

1:10:44

come on, seriously, the maximum

1:10:46

bonus, the maximum extra payment for people

1:10:48

at the highest risk is 80,000 rubles (about US$1,000). 1,000

1:10:50

dollars. Yes, that is simply ridiculous. But

1:10:53

to be fair, there should be

1:10:56

some kind of scale. People simply need to

1:10:58

be paid. I believe that absolutely at least

1:11:00

some money should be paid to absolutely

1:11:02

everyone. Right.

1:11:05

Hit Surf asks: "Why was it necessary at all

1:11:07

to funnel these payments through governors,

1:11:08

to push this money to medical workers through the regions, through

1:11:10

the bureaucracy? There’s a register of medical workers, so why

1:11:12

can’t payments be made directly to them?"

1:11:14

Excellent question. In fact, it can’t be done,

1:11:17

because there is no such register of medical workers,

1:11:19

because they kept building, building, building

1:11:21

this system. And it turned out that there is no

1:11:25

such direct button, you know. You

1:11:27

think there’s a button that Mishustin (Russia’s prime minister)

1:11:29

presses and a doctor’s salary is credited to

1:11:31

their bank card? No, absolutely not. Because

1:11:33

for a long time they deliberately built such a

1:11:36

differen-

1:11:37

differentiated system under which

1:11:40

the chief physician and the governor can pay

1:11:42

less. Why did I run this campaign?

1:11:45

So that everyone—teachers, doctors, everyone

1:11:47

who is entitled to it—would be paid in accordance with

1:11:49

the May decrees. But no one was being paid,

1:11:51

because, well, exactly the same kind of

1:11:53

fiddling is going on: base rate, salary, bonus,

1:11:56

allowance. This one works 1.5

1:11:58

positions, that one six. And this one was brought in

1:12:00

full-time on a half-time basis. They created

1:12:03

a system under which the chief physician,

1:12:06

The minister can rig things. They set it up so

1:12:09

they could pay less. And now, basically,

1:12:12

this whole top-down system,

1:12:13

for doctors, teachers,

1:12:16

the military, the cops,

1:12:18

basically any state employee and any worker

1:12:21

at state-funded enterprises, is designed

1:12:23

in such a way that the chief

1:12:24

distributor of funds—the head doctor in this case—

1:12:27

can receive a lot of money, and he

1:12:29

really does receive fantastical sums.

1:12:31

Take that same Myasnikov I showed you

1:12:33

in the middle of the program—he,

1:12:34

I think, gave an interview today and said:

1:12:36

"I earn..." Well, literally he said,

1:12:38

"a hell of a lot" or "a whole damn lot." Something

1:12:40

like that. In Moscow, head doctors very

1:12:43

often make millions of rubles. There are

1:12:45

doctors who earn 500,000,

1:12:48

700,000, 200,000 rubles. But this system is built

1:12:51

so that if you want him to be paid

1:12:53

500,000, you pay him that and he

1:12:55

gets 500,000. If you want him

1:12:57

to get 17, he gets 17. And all of it

1:13:00

is perfectly legal. They created a system whose purpose

1:13:03

is to pay as little as possible,

1:13:05

because as much money as possible has to

1:13:07

remain with the federal center so it can

1:13:09

go to construction projects, corruption, and so

1:13:12

on and so forth. Because, well,

1:13:13

healthcare is expensive.

1:13:15

They do not want to put money into it, and

1:13:18

they cannot let it bypass the governors.

1:13:20

That is the whole point of this system.

1:13:24

So, what else are people asking me?

1:13:27

A video in which a police officer is choking

1:13:30

a man. Are we all just going to watch things like this

1:13:31

and tolerate it—is that enough?

1:13:32

Muva Mokh asks me. I am not going to

1:13:34

show you that video. I saw it myself

1:13:36

online; it was widely shared. Well,

1:13:37

it really is just police

1:13:39

lawlessness. As I have said many times on this

1:13:42

program, we have now

1:13:44

entered a zone where, with the latest

1:13:47

amendments, the law on the police has truly put us

1:13:49

into a state of genuine

1:13:50

police lawlessness. You can easily

1:13:52

find the video. In it, cops are simply choking

1:13:54

a man—just choking him—while around them

1:13:56

women are screaming, children are crying, everyone is yelling,

1:13:59

shouting that they are going to strangle him; blood is

1:14:01

coming from the man’s mouth. They keep choking him,

1:14:03

even though he is offering no resistance

1:14:04

at all. The era of the

1:14:07

police state has arrived. Do not

1:14:09

stay silent. We need to be outraged every day.

1:14:11

We need to vote against it. We need to persuade

1:14:14

everyone to vote. Speaking of voting,

1:14:16

someone asked me about it. Let me find that

1:14:18

question. Maybe it was removed. The person

1:14:20

asked: "Why boycott

1:14:22

the vote? Wouldn’t voting against it be

1:14:24

much more effective?" Guys,

1:14:27

the so-called vote on the

1:14:29

Constitution and its results will have absolutely

1:14:31

nothing to do with how you

1:14:33

actually vote. And there will be no effectiveness

1:14:34

there at all, because there is no

1:14:36

monitoring, there is nothing, no

1:14:38

procedure—there will just be a screen on

1:14:41

which the results will be announced to us. Therefore,

1:14:44

our approach to this vote

1:14:45

is this: we do not recognize it. I will not

1:14:49

take part in it. If you are being forced to go, and

1:14:52

it is clear that all state employees—

1:14:54

all doctors, all teachers, all

1:14:56

employees of municipal organizations—

1:14:58

that is, tens of millions of people—will be forced

1:15:00

to go there, then vote against it. In that case,

1:15:03

you should vote against it. But overall, it is about non-

1:15:05

recognition, because no matter how we

1:15:07

vote, the result there will be

1:15:09

whatever they say it is—they will say that 90%

1:15:11

voted to extend Putin’s powers.

1:15:13

Well, let’s move on to Dagestan (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus).

1:15:15

My mug has 05 written on it.

1:15:18

Why is this so important?

1:15:21

Because in Dagestan, exactly what

1:15:24

we were warned about is happening right now.

1:15:27

We were told that what makes coronavirus dangerous

1:15:29

is not that there would be people,

1:15:31

I don’t know, lying dead in the streets,

1:15:33

or that there would be millions dead. No, that is

1:15:35

not it. The particular danger of coronavirus is

1:15:38

that it overloads the healthcare

1:15:40

system, and indeed

1:15:42

hospitals will be packed with bodies, packed

1:15:44

with sick people, and nothing can be

1:15:46

done about it. The healthcare system will simply

1:15:49

break down. That is exactly what is now

1:15:52

happening in Dagestan. But the most

1:15:55

terrible thing is that here, well, in

1:15:58

Italy too, at one point, the healthcare

1:15:59

system broke down. But in Dagestan,

1:16:03

it seems the only thing it has in common with Italy is the beautiful

1:16:05

mountains; everything else is very different,

1:16:08

because all of this there is layered

1:16:09

on top of monstrous lies and

1:16:12

monstrous corruption. Because,

1:16:14

despite the fact that the situation in Dagestan

1:16:17

is extremely hard to hide, the peculiarity

1:16:19

of Dagestan is this: do you know your

1:16:22

second cousin? No. But in Dagestan,

1:16:26

everyone knows their second cousin. Do

1:16:29

you even have this concept in your

1:16:31

head: "my village"? No, you do not.

1:16:34

But there, many people have a particular

1:16:37

village, relatives, a huge number of

1:16:40

people. So everyone is connected, everyone knows

1:16:43

about everyone else. When your, I don’t

1:16:45

know, second cousin or some

1:16:47

god-knows-what nephew dies, that is the death

1:16:50

of a close relative. Everyone

1:16:53

finds out about it fairly quickly.

1:16:55

And Dagestan, despite the fact that

1:16:57

it has received enormous amounts of money in recent years,

1:17:01

had everything stolen there. The system there

1:17:03

the healthcare system is simply destroyed,

1:17:05

especially in villages, in small

1:17:07

settlements. I mean, there

1:17:08

is total collapse there. And right now in Dagestan

1:17:11

that very catastrophe is unfolding, and they

1:17:13

are lying outrageously. So, the minister

1:17:16

of health of Dagestan did a livestream

1:17:19

last week, because it was impossible

1:17:21

to hide the situation, and it had already started

1:17:23

to be discussed by literally the entire country

1:17:24

everyone is talking about it, because, well, a catastrophe

1:17:26

is happening. He starts the livestream, and in

1:17:28

that livestream, uh, he still keeps

1:17:31

saying that there are only something like

1:17:33

13,000 sick people, but only 3,000 of

1:17:35

them, uh, have coronavirus, and the rest

1:17:38

have pneumonia. Let's listen.

1:17:40

Well, the number of people who have fallen ill, due to, uh,

1:17:44

is more than 13,000.

1:17:47

13,000 sick people.

1:17:50

Overall, if you count, uh,

1:17:52

confirmed COVID infections and

1:17:55

community-acquired pneumonia, to be more precise,

1:17:58

that is to say,

1:18:00

697.

1:18:03

Confirmed

1:18:05

uh, COVID infection cases: 128.

1:18:12

Hospitals are packed with the sick and the dead. According to

1:18:16

official statistics, only 3,000

1:18:18

people are ill and only, uh, 36

1:18:21

people have died. That is the official

1:18:23

statistic. Everywhere they say: "We have

1:18:24

had 36 deaths." In that same livestream

1:18:27

meanwhile, the health minister

1:18:29

of Dagestan says that among doctors alone

1:18:30

40 people have died. By now they already have

1:18:33

at least 50 doctors dead. At that

1:18:35

moment, 40 doctors had died, but officially

1:18:38

they were saying that only 36 people had died in total. Let's look

1:18:40

at these 40 dead doctors.

1:18:43

How many doctors have died

1:18:46

as of today while on the front line?

1:18:48

Well,

1:18:52

as for our colleagues who

1:18:57

there are more than forty of them, I, I can say

1:19:01

Yes,

1:19:04

at the same time, one of Dagestan's particular features

1:19:06

is that everyone there loves

1:19:08

Instagram and uses it to spread this

1:19:09

information. And again, Instagram

1:19:11

is simply starting to overflow with

1:19:13

video testimony that

1:19:15

spills beyond the borders of the republic. They

1:19:17

are already being seen by everyone. And basically, uh, well,

1:19:19

now anyone can, uh, talk about

1:19:22

something. And in one of these livestreams, to that same

1:19:24

blogger named Ruslan Kurbanov,

1:19:26

uh, one of the nurses simply describes

1:19:28

live on air what is going on in the

1:19:29

hospital. And this account, well, completely

1:19:32

matches what people know, and

1:19:34

does not match at all what

1:19:35

the official authorities are saying. Let's see

1:19:37

what the situation is today in the hospitals of

1:19:39

Makhachkala.

1:19:40

Terrible.

1:19:41

There are very many infected people. My

1:19:44

acquaintances, my coworkers, all the ones who

1:19:46

work there, they say: "There are bodies in the

1:19:48

corridors, here and there, and no one is taking them away."

1:19:50

The military even went door to door, knocking,

1:19:52

trying to find the relatives of these bodies, because

1:19:54

I also couldn't find my dead for a whole day.

1:19:56

I only found them later; they had been lying there for a day

1:19:58

even though they had phones, they

1:20:00

called, I was outraged too, the documents

1:20:03

were lost, we can't find them. That's the kind of

1:20:05

circus going on there. The hospital staff can't

1:20:07

keep up. They live there, the medical workers,

1:20:09

that's clear. Many thanks to them. They

1:20:11

live there, they don't leave. But then again, you

1:20:14

understand—there are so many infected people, so many.

1:20:17

Well, excuse me, but if the ambulances

1:20:18

weren't properly equipped and kept going out like that, then wouldn't the number of infected

1:20:20

rise? I'm telling you honestly,

1:20:22

there is chaos here. This is not Makhachkala anymore.

1:20:24

There is no real leadership here. I

1:20:27

don't know, it's as if no one cares about

1:20:28

Makhachkala, as if nobody cares about anything. It feels

1:20:30

as though we have been left alone,

1:20:32

no one is helping us. I don't know whom

1:20:34

to turn to. I have already, in this

1:20:36

state, decided to come to you.

1:20:40

And this situation has, well, simply so far

1:20:43

exceeded

1:20:44

the usual level of chaos. In principle,

1:20:46

you could say there is chaos here

1:20:48

about almost any Russian region. But

1:20:50

there, that chaos has immediately risen

1:20:53

several levels higher. And Putin is forced

1:20:55

to hold a special meeting, because

1:20:57

several million people are watching this

1:21:01

unfold. It's the North Caucasus, very

1:21:03

densely populated. And every word

1:21:06

of lies keeps angering and angering people,

1:21:09

because anyone can go on

1:21:12

Instagram and watch a video like this

1:21:14

from the intensive care unit in

1:21:16

Khasavyurt. Let's watch.

1:21:20

Khasavyurt

1:21:23

intensive care unit.

1:21:27

[music]

1:21:29

You

1:21:31

[music]

1:21:37

can see for yourselves, I can't show everything,

1:21:40

because I think it would be

1:21:42

too shocking.

1:21:44

Just now,

1:21:46

just now, two people died here.

1:21:50

I'll say just one thing:

1:21:52

[music]

1:21:55

we've been abandoned here, abandoned.

1:22:01

Only Allah can help,

1:22:03

not our healthcare system.

1:22:06

Cursed be the one who brought this

1:22:08

to such a state.

1:22:11

No one is responsible for anything.

1:22:14

No one.

1:22:16

Nobody cares about anyone. I mean the

1:22:20

people and our officials.

1:22:24

Our officials are sitting in their ivory towers, completely

1:22:27

isolated from everything, because they have

1:22:29

a lot of money they've stolen.

1:22:34

Only the people suffer. In any case,

1:22:37

it is only the people who suffer.

1:22:41

And still, here we are now

1:22:43

discussing this, and the information there is simply

1:22:45

absolutely overwhelming. Everyone is talking about

1:22:48

20 people having died in this village, 10

1:22:50

people having died in that village, and in

1:22:51

some villages 500 people are infected,

1:22:54

600 people. The hospital is packed with corpses.

1:22:56

And their official statistics still say

1:22:59

36 people. I mean, it's just some kind of

1:23:01

mega-lie. TV Rain (an independent Russian media outlet) did an excellent

1:23:03

report. They went there and

1:23:07

spoke with Ziyudin Uvaysov. He is

1:23:10

the head of an NGO that simply monitors

1:23:12

the coronavirus situation. He is the one who

1:23:13

explains why everyone knows. Well, because

1:23:16

the population is very tightly connected. And simply

1:23:19

everyone in Dagestan knows how many people are sick

1:23:22

in their village. Let's take a look.

1:23:23

It's one minute and 15 seconds.

1:23:25

Standing next to me now is Ziyudin Uvaysov,

1:23:28

the head of the public organization

1:23:30

Monitor Patients. What is the situation overall?

1:23:33

Hello. In fact, the situation is,

1:23:35

you could say, terrible. There are very,

1:23:38

very many sick people. I think the health minister's figures

1:23:41

are close to the truth.

1:23:44

Most likely, in reality we actually have

1:23:46

somewhat more cases, and the number of deaths is probably

1:23:48

approaching a thousand after all

1:23:51

patients. All the hospitals are overcrowded.

1:23:54

I have to ask about the villages. As I

1:23:55

understand it, that is where the situation is most serious,

1:23:57

because some villages have already almost entirely

1:23:59

gone through coronavirus; people there

1:24:00

are dying, but there are no tests at all, and

1:24:03

they are being diagnosed with pneumonia. Could you

1:24:05

tell us about the main hotspots, the biggest

1:24:07

problems in Dagestan specifically from the point

1:24:09

of view of the villages?

1:24:10

As for the villages, in fact, people there

1:24:11

interact more closely. And because in the

1:24:13

initial stage the virus is not noticeable, they

1:24:16

were not afraid of infection. There are villages

1:24:19

where more than twenty people have died. These include

1:24:21

Gergebil, uh, Tlokh in Botlikhsky District,

1:24:26

Tebekmakhi in Akushinsky District,

1:24:28

where the number is approaching twenty, and Gubden,

1:24:30

and in Komsomolskoye, they said, there are also

1:24:34

more than twenty dead.

1:24:36

There are very, very many villages

1:24:39

where 5 to 10 people have died.

1:24:41

There. I mean, why lie like this? If

1:24:44

everyone knows. Twenty people died in a village.

1:24:46

Can you imagine what it means when in a village

1:24:47

20 people die in a month?

1:24:51

Everyone there is in an uproar; everyone knows it.

1:24:53

Why this lie? And of course,

1:24:56

the final nail in the coffin of this

1:25:00

lie was hammered in by Khabib. Probably the most

1:25:03

famous—well, definitely the most

1:25:04

famous person from Dagestan. Possibly the most

1:25:06

famous Russian. His level of fame

1:25:09

in the world is probably comparable to

1:25:10

Putin's. He recorded—I’ll show you a clip—

1:25:12

it’s about four or, I think,

1:25:14

five minutes long. A very heartfelt video on

1:25:17

Instagram. Well, he has his own

1:25:19

difficult situation, because his father, as I

1:25:21

understand it, is ill with coronavirus,

1:25:23

and was taken somewhere to Moscow. So

1:25:24

it’s a serious situation. And here he is

1:25:28

recording a message and describing the real

1:25:30

situation—just plainly, calmly—

1:25:32

and asking all his fellow Dagestanis

1:25:35

not to take part in the holiday celebrations. Right now, uh, not to

1:25:38

go to Friday prayers simply

1:25:39

because the virus is spreading, and this

1:25:41

is no joke. Let’s watch, uh, a minute of it.

1:25:44

I, Khabib, would like to make an appeal to

1:25:47

my fellow countrymen, to the people of Dagestan, in connection with

1:25:49

the recent events involving this virus, this

1:25:51

disease.

1:25:53

We are in a very difficult situation in

1:25:55

Dagestan, a very dire one.

1:25:58

Hospitals are overcrowded, many people

1:26:01

have fallen ill, and very many people have died.

1:26:05

It is a very difficult situation. I personally had

1:26:07

more than twenty people from among my

1:26:10

relatives, my close relatives, hospitalized.

1:26:12

I’m not talking about acquaintances; I’m talking about

1:26:14

more than 20 close relatives

1:26:16

who were in intensive care.

1:26:20

Many of them, many, are no longer

1:26:23

with us. Very many acquaintances have died, very

1:26:26

many parents of my close friends and acquaintances

1:26:28

have died.

1:26:31

He recorded a long video. There was also

1:26:32

an interesting exchange in the comments.

1:26:34

One user wrote to him saying

1:26:37

that, basically, “I’m disappointed that

1:26:40

you believe in coronavirus.” To which he

1:26:41

replied: “In my village, 500 people have fallen ill

1:26:44

with pneumonia, 11 have died, and

1:26:46

dozens are in hospitals. In the neighboring village, over the course of

1:26:48

one night, 14 people died. They couldn’t

1:26:51

bury them fast enough.” Can you imagine—that phrase really

1:26:53

was said: “They couldn’t bury them fast enough.” When

1:26:56

medical workers record video appeals like these,

1:26:58

like the one I showed you, from

1:27:00

other regions—and in Dagestan they really did

1:27:02

record them too, I think

1:27:04

it was the Khasavyurt hospital, with the

1:27:06

words: “There are very few of us left.”

1:27:09

Do you understand? It’s as if they are actually

1:27:11

standing on the front line. But in a sense

1:27:12

they are on the front line. But there are fewer

1:27:14

medical workers now, because they are dying,

1:27:17

because there aren’t enough of them for everyone,

1:27:19

because everything is full, everyone knows about

1:27:22

the dead in their village, their relatives, and so

1:27:23

on. And this lying continues. I

1:27:28

I’m deeply outraged by all of this and

1:27:30

by how utterly senseless it all is. Why are they

1:27:32

lying? What exactly are they lying for? There,

1:27:34

the most popular person in the republic comes out

1:27:36

and says, "We have a very grave

1:27:37

situation, a huge number of people have died."

1:27:39

Then an official says, "We have had 36

1:27:42

deaths." And everyone knows that’s a lie. But

1:27:43

why? I mean, it’s not Putin, not

1:27:47

United Russia, really, that is directly

1:27:49

to blame for this. Yes, they are guilty of

1:27:51

stealing all the money and destroying

1:27:54

the healthcare system. They are guilty of that. And,

1:27:56

apparently, in order to somehow

1:27:58

hide that guilt of theirs, uh, they

1:28:02

just lie. But the scale of the lying, the way they

1:28:05

look people straight in the eye. And again,

1:28:08

this is Dagestan, where this whole culture of

1:28:10

being a "real man," uh,

1:28:13

of manly behavior and masculine deeds,

1:28:16

all this talk of masculinity and

1:28:18

honesty and decency, is, uh, at least

1:28:21

in words, constantly elevated by officials

1:28:23

into some kind of absolute ideal. If you

1:28:26

say anything there, go apologize. You

1:28:29

have to apologize for this, you have to

1:28:30

apologize for everything. But who is going to

1:28:31

apologize for these lies? And how are they,

1:28:33

all of them, these petty officials, not ashamed

1:28:36

to come back to their very own village,

1:28:39

where 20 people have died? Or they’ll

1:28:41

come there in a month, after they

1:28:44

lied that there were only 36 deaths in the entire republic.

1:28:47

It’s astonishing, absolutely astonishing

1:28:50

super-mega hypocrisy

1:28:54

from Dagestan’s elite, and really, from

1:28:56

the elites of the North Caucasus and

1:28:58

Chechnya as well. We’ll talk about Chechnya now.

1:29:00

They just constantly

1:29:03

lie outrageously, and at the same time demand that everyone else

1:29:06

apologize, believe their

1:29:09

lies, and under no circumstances challenge

1:29:12

their words. And of course, the worst part is this.

1:29:14

This really is just

1:29:16

I don’t even know how this could be

1:29:18

said. There is this speaker of the

1:29:20

Legislative Assembly, Khizri

1:29:23

Shikhsaidov.

1:29:25

A grown man, gray-haired.

1:29:29

You’re the speaker of the Legislative Assembly.

1:29:31

Putin is holding a meeting on this

1:29:33

coronavirus situation, because it’s impossible not to

1:29:35

do so. In fact, out of all the federal subjects

1:29:38

of Russia, Putin separately addressed

1:29:40

Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Dagestan. And nothing

1:29:43

else. Because in Dagestan

1:29:44

there is a catastrophe, and you can’t not hold

1:29:46

a separate meeting. So Putin

1:29:48

is holding a meeting on coronavirus, uh,

1:29:52

and it concerns your republic. You are

1:29:54

the speaker of the Legislative Assembly. All the

1:29:56

people’s representatives, so to speak, are

1:29:58

subordinate to you to one degree or another. You

1:30:00

show up, and all of Dagestan is watching you.

1:30:03

So what do you say? What does this

1:30:05

man say? Listen:

1:30:07

"People are asking you, uh, that those

1:30:13

amendments that we are supposed to make to the

1:30:16

Constitution of the Russian Federation not

1:30:18

be delayed, but be adopted

1:30:20

in a timely manner, because people are waiting

1:30:22

for this. And there is understanding,

1:30:25

so to speak."

1:30:28

I watched this, and my jaw just

1:30:30

dropped. A gray-haired man, probably

1:30:32

some kind of respected figure. He was elected

1:30:34

somehow, after all. So this whole

1:30:37

ritual dance is performed around him.

1:30:39

This whole performance: let’s appoint a respected

1:30:41

man. Everyone is looking at you. Zero

1:30:44

people in Dagestan right now have any

1:30:48

desire or request to extend Putin’s

1:30:50

powers. And at the same time, absolutely everyone

1:30:53

has a request: "Help with money,

1:30:55

send ventilators, we need medical staff, we need

1:30:58

something." We’ve got the Emergency Ministry puffing

1:31:00

itself up with some kind of mobile

1:31:02

hospitals and whatever else. At the very least,

1:31:04

you could pay doctors more money,

1:31:07

pay them more, like in Italy. In Italy

1:31:09

there was a catastrophe. Italy, uh, honestly

1:31:11

said, "Guys, we have a catastrophe,

1:31:13

help us." And everyone helped them,

1:31:16

sending aid, and we sent

1:31:18

some assistance too. And it was an honest

1:31:20

conversation, because really,

1:31:23

you cannot hide the deaths of your

1:31:25

neighbors. And this man, when he,

1:31:28

well, even just from a political

1:31:30

point of view, should have said: "Vladimir

1:31:32

Vladimirovich, if you really want to flatter him,

1:31:34

we all love you very much. In Dagestan

1:31:36

everyone respects you so much, everyone values you so highly.

1:31:39

And of course, we are sure that now you will

1:31:42

provide us with help. You will send us

1:31:43

ventilators, give us additional

1:31:46

financial assistance, and to some villages we will

1:31:48

send mobile hospitals, and so

1:31:50

on and so forth. In other words,

1:31:52

you would use the opportunity and get something out of

1:31:54

him, because this is live on air.

1:31:55

Because in this situation Putin cannot

1:31:57

answer anything other than

1:32:00

"Dear Mr. or Comrade Shikhsaidov,

1:32:05

of course, yes, of course. We always

1:32:07

allocate huge amounts of money to

1:32:09

Dagestan for everything. And in this

1:32:11

situation we will help and send it." But

1:32:13

instead, the man really burns up this

1:32:15

opportunity of his just to

1:32:17

show that when his

1:32:21

fellow countrymen are dying right now, he must

1:32:25

fawn over Putin. Notice and remember,

1:32:27

Putin: even in a tragic, crisis

1:32:31

moment, I bowed and grovelled before

1:32:35

you so that you would remember my

1:32:36

servility. It’s simply disgraceful. I

1:32:38

know that right now in Dagestan signatures

1:32:40

they’re rallying against him, but they’re all like that,

1:32:42

the whole of United Russia, they’re all built that way

1:32:45

They really are traitors. What’s

1:32:47

happening right now is an act

1:32:49

of betrayal of Dagestan. What irony,

1:32:52

yes, everyone is writing to me about it now. You

1:32:53

used to shout, “Stop feeding the Caucasus” (a Russian nationalist slogan about ending federal subsidies to the North Caucasus). And

1:32:55

now you’re the one running around there the most. Well,

1:32:57

that’s exactly what I’ve always said,

1:33:00

that no matter how much money you give them, they’ll

1:33:03

steal it all, that whole elite, they’ll

1:33:05

loot it and siphon it off. And that is exactly what

1:33:08

happened. They took everything. There is absolutely no

1:33:12

healthcare at all. Everything

1:33:14

has fallen apart. And now they’re

1:33:16

coming back and fawning over Putin again. For

1:33:18

what? So they can once again get

1:33:20

uncontrolled money, which they will again

1:33:23

steal. And for that they need

1:33:25

people to vote for United Russia. When

1:33:26

the time comes to vote for United

1:33:28

Russia, they’ll run to these doctors and

1:33:29

force them to vote. They’ll

1:33:32

go to those villages where there were

1:33:35

huge numbers of deaths, which they

1:33:36

lied about, and once again they’ll ask everyone,

1:33:38

pressure them, falsify things,

1:33:40

make them vote, and so on. Don’t

1:33:42

do that. In the next election, in the

1:33:44

vote on the constitution. I just

1:33:47

really hope—I know that

1:33:50

a fairly substantial number of people

1:33:51

from the North Caucasus, from Dagestan, are watching.

1:33:53

Well, of course not everyone, certainly not everyone,

1:33:56

but let’s somehow, well, let’s try just once

1:33:59

to be outraged and respond to this insult

1:34:03

by not voting

1:34:05

for them, plain and simple, and by not staying silent about

1:34:06

this insult. Because, well,

1:34:08

it’s impossible, simply impossible. How can anyone

1:34:12

cover up the deaths of hundreds of people and 36 doctors?

1:34:16

It’s just absolutely

1:34:17

outrageous. Chechnya.

1:34:20

We’re not getting the same kind of information from there as from

1:34:23

Dagestan, but something bad is clearly happening there too.

1:34:25

Well, first of all, today

1:34:27

reports appeared saying that Ramzan

1:34:29

Kadyrov had been hospitalized with

1:34:31

coronavirus. There are a lot of jokes going around online about it.

1:34:34

I’m not going to

1:34:35

gloat under any circumstances.

1:34:36

A sick person is a sick

1:34:38

person. I wish any sick person

1:34:40

a recovery. And I wish Ramzan Kadyrov

1:34:42

a recovery as well. But of course I

1:34:46

can’t help noting that after all these years

1:34:50

he has been in power there, after the enormous, unimaginable

1:34:53

amount of money poured into Chechnya,

1:34:56

there wasn’t even a single intensive care unit

1:34:59

to treat the president of the republic.

1:35:02

No one is even saying otherwise: he

1:35:04

is in Moscow; he was flown there on a special aircraft

1:35:06

and is being treated in a Moscow

1:35:08

hospital because, well,

1:35:10

the man needs to be cured. That’s how

1:35:12

the country works, you see. If you need

1:35:14

to treat someone—not only in Chechnya, but in

1:35:16

Kamchatka, the Urals, or Chechnya—if

1:35:20

they really need proper treatment, what do you

1:35:22

have to do? Take them to Moscow. Damn, but

1:35:25

you can’t exactly send everyone by special plane,

1:35:29

can you?

1:35:32

There’s nothing there. Where did all that truly

1:35:35

colossal money that was

1:35:36

allocated to Chechnya go? We don’t know, but

1:35:38

it went somewhere. Or rather, we

1:35:40

do know. Just open YouTube, please,

1:35:43

and watch videos from Chechnya. And the most popular videos

1:35:46

from Chechnya—there are hundreds like them—show

1:35:48

some motorcade driving around in Bentleys,

1:35:50

Porsches,

1:35:51

I mean, I don’t know, gold

1:35:54

rims and all that stuff, some

1:35:56

leopards jumping around, and people throwing

1:35:59

money. That’s where it all went,

1:36:02

you see? We can send entire gigantic lines

1:36:05

of Bentleys down the roads

1:36:07

of Chechnya, but there isn’t even one hospital to treat

1:36:10

at least the president of the republic.

1:36:13

There’s nothing.

1:36:15

Let Ramzan Kadyrov be treated in Moscow.

1:36:17

That’s very good. But then why

1:36:19

at the same time actually intimidate and

1:36:22

humiliate your own medical workers there in the

1:36:24

hospital? There,

1:36:26

the medical staff tried to do the same thing

1:36:29

that people are doing all across Russia. They did exactly the right thing.

1:36:30

They spoke out,

1:36:32

saying that they, uh, didn’t have enough

1:36:34

protective equipment. They simply gathered

1:36:36

in front of the hospital. I’ll show you 23 seconds of it.

1:36:38

It’s mostly in Chechen, but

1:36:41

people who know the language translated it, and the medical workers

1:36:45

are protesting the lack

1:36:47

of protective equipment. This is what it looks like.

1:37:13

Nobody likes videos like these. I

1:37:16

show them here often. I’m drawing

1:37:17

attention to the medical workers’ union. These videos

1:37:20

don’t please anyone. Not in Chechnya, not in

1:37:22

Dagestan, not in Smolensk. And in

1:37:24

the Pskov region, no one in the authorities likes them either,

1:37:26

but only in Chechnya, in its finest

1:37:29

traditions, did they

1:37:31

force the medical workers to apologize publicly. Yes,

1:37:33

good Lord, why? They came out

1:37:38

simply to say there isn’t enough

1:37:40

protective equipment, we’ll get sick, we’ll infect

1:37:42

you. But no, instead someone has to come and

1:37:44

make a special report, a TV segment,

1:37:47

on the Grozny TV channel. They called those

1:37:49

poor medical workers provocateurs. And they

1:37:52

were made to explain on video what

1:37:53

terrible mistakes they had made. Forty-seven seconds.

1:37:57

As for the protective equipment, we didn’t know.

1:37:59

It turns out the hospital did have it. We

1:38:01

got scared; we weren’t prepared for this.

1:38:03

Basically, it was panic because

1:38:05

I was not informed about the availability of

1:38:07

of COVID-19 protective equipment,

1:38:11

uh, a meeting was held. Well, we were

1:38:15

later told and had it explained to us

1:38:18

that such forms do exist. For the time being,

1:38:20

those same forms were provided. We, as

1:38:22

doctors, should not have been so

1:38:24

worried. And our problem

1:38:27

is that we raised

1:38:30

a problem that, supposedly, we do not have. We

1:38:34

did not know that this protective

1:38:36

equipment was

1:38:37

actually available. Of course, we should first have

1:38:39

made sure, uh, whether, ah, the

1:38:42

personal protective equipment was in stock.

1:38:45

That was a brilliant phrase. Our mistake was

1:38:48

that we raised a problem

1:38:49

that we do not have. I mean, I

1:38:51

laugh at it, but the situation is actually

1:38:53

monstrous. Again, the whole republic

1:38:54

knows that doctors really did not have

1:38:56

protective equipment. They are obliged—

1:38:59

if they are decent people, they are obliged to

1:39:02

shout about it, because otherwise

1:39:04

they themselves become a source of

1:39:05

infection. I am simply curious how this

1:39:08

works. So they watched this video,

1:39:10

and then, I do not know, Kadyrov and some of his

1:39:12

top officials saw it. And what did they do?

1:39:15

Did they, I do not know, drive to that

1:39:17

hospital with assault rifles and say, "Record this or we

1:39:20

will kill you," or, I do not know, somehow

1:39:22

shame them or pressure them? I mean,

1:39:24

these are clearly frightened people,

1:39:26

intimidated people, and it is obvi-

1:39:29

ous that they were telling the truth, that they

1:39:32

did not have protective equipment, and now they are being forced

1:39:34

to lie and say that the protective equipment

1:39:37

is there. Why? That is the question: why?

1:39:40

Oh, supposedly so as not to disgrace

1:39:42

the republic, so they can say

1:39:44

that everything is available. But in Moscow, doctors

1:39:47

—and Moscow is richer than even Chechnya—

1:39:49

even in Moscow, doctors say: "We do not have

1:39:51

protective equipment." So they said it there on

1:39:53

the issue of protective equipment, Kadyrov could have come out

1:39:56

or the others could have said: "Yes, the

1:39:58

doctors appealed to us, and now we will buy from

1:40:01

the Ramzan Kadyrov Foundation masks and

1:40:04

respirators and so on." But no, they

1:40:06

send in some people who are

1:40:07

simply intimidated and then humiliated before

1:40:10

the entire republic, forced to apologize for

1:40:13

speaking the truth. What is going on? Why is this

1:40:15

being done? And again, all of this is done under

1:40:18

the banner of: "We are a great people, we are

1:40:22

the proudest," while they themselves force their own

1:40:25

people to humiliate themselves.

1:40:27

It is simply, absolute- it is simply

1:40:29

disgusting and utterly monstrous. And

1:40:31

this is, of course, the style of United Russia. And on

1:40:34

Instagram it is the same thing; Instagram is very popular

1:40:36

there, and everything gets pushed through Instagram.

1:40:38

It is very prominent. They have a man,

1:40:39

the chief physician of the local hospital, Kozbek

1:40:41

Sultanovich Mezhidov.

1:40:44

His account is extremely pro-Kadyrov. Every other

1:40:45

photo is Kadyrov, Kadyrov, Kadyrov,

1:40:47

Kadyrov. And between those photos: such-and-such

1:40:49

doctor has died. He is basically

1:40:51

writing almost every day: "The chief doctor of the ambulance service,

1:40:54

the deputy chief doctor of the ambulance service,

1:40:56

has died, another person there

1:40:58

has died." That is, he is constantly writing

1:41:01

about colleagues who have died. When you

1:41:03

were just showing it, please bring it back,

1:41:04

please, yes. And the deputy chief of the ambulance

1:41:07

service, yes, a young man—young

1:41:09

people, young doctors are dying, including

1:41:12

because there is no protective equipment. So why

1:41:14

are you busy with this nonsense,

1:41:16

making them apologize on camera?

1:41:17

This video was sent from Chechnya. I will say right away

1:41:20

that it is in the Chechen language. We asked

1:41:22

an acquaintance from Chechnya to translate it. And

1:41:24

it is claimed—I cannot

1:41:26

say this with 100% certainty, because I did not get it from

1:41:28

Instagram, right? What is this? A hospital

1:41:31

in Grozny. At that, at that

1:41:33

moment—it was recorded, I think, yesterday—

1:41:37

the official line in the republic says that they have

1:41:40

only nine deaths. Here

1:41:41

a woman in this video says:

1:41:45

"Who said that only nine people

1:41:46

have died? We alone have had two

1:41:49

people die—there are still warm bodies. And here there are another

1:41:51

four bodies. Let us watch this

1:41:52

video.

1:42:12

Four.

1:42:18

We do not know how catastrophic

1:42:21

the situation in Chechnya is. Whether it is

1:42:22

as catastrophic as in Dagestan. Well,

1:42:24

it seems that in Chechnya there was a much

1:42:26

stricter self-isolation regime,

1:42:27

because Kadyrov introduced it from the very

1:42:29

beginning. But clearly there is the same

1:42:31

lying about this there, about everything. I very much

1:42:33

hope so. I know for a fact that

1:42:35

the leaders of the republic will be watching

1:42:36

this broadcast, and tomorrow whoever it usually is there,

1:42:39

some press minister, will put out a whole

1:42:41

angry and indignant

1:42:45

statement. Every time I say something about them,

1:42:47

about corruption in Chechnya,

1:42:48

they say that Navalny has slandered

1:42:50

our republic. Do not go looking for the

1:42:53

person who recorded this video. Do not

1:42:55

waste time on this nonsense. Just

1:42:56

admit it—what is the problem? Admit it. I

1:42:58

for the life of me really do not

1:43:00

understand. If you tell the truth about all

1:43:03

those who have really died and fallen ill, who

1:43:06

will be worse off because of that? As Volkov said in

1:43:08

his video: "And when you conceal

1:43:10

mortality, you are committing

1:43:12

a crime against your own people, including

1:43:14

because, well, you make it harder

1:43:17

to fight viruses like this in the future,

1:43:19

because, well, we have to understand,

1:43:20

what the real dynamics of the spread are

1:43:22

in the North Caucasus. There, there is a particular

1:43:24

kind of distinct way of life, it seems,

1:43:27

probably, into play. On that very day, many

1:43:28

people infect one another. It is customary

1:43:31

to hug, kiss, and so on.

1:43:33

It is important to understand how

1:43:36

rapidly and intensely infection is spreading in

1:43:39

the republics of the North Caucasus, and how

1:43:41

dire the healthcare situation is there.

1:43:44

It is important to know this so that people can survive in

1:43:47

the future, starting right now. And when you lie,

1:43:50

you are committing, and I repeat for the millionth time,

1:43:52

what is simply a crime against

1:43:54

your own people. You must immediately,

1:43:56

immediately stop lying about this. And I

1:43:57

am simply calling on everyone, and on the residents, well,

1:44:00

of Russia and of the North Caucasus in particular,

1:44:02

where the lies are the most brazen, to simply

1:44:05

go after your authorities. Well, in Chechnya,

1:44:06

of course, that is very difficult to do. There,

1:44:08

for every comment you leave on Instagram, someone

1:44:09

comes to see you and forces you

1:44:11

to apologize somewhere on a treadmill. But

1:44:13

even so, do not vote for them. Talk

1:44:15

to one another, agree among yourselves on

1:44:17

the fact that it is right to fight and go after this

1:44:20

government. Show solidarity with such

1:44:22

medical workers. Now, to the questions. 92,000 people

1:44:25

are watching us live. And the account FANAkunt

1:44:27

Dashki asks me: "Why do you

1:44:28

think officials from Tyumen

1:44:30

keep ending up in high-ranking positions in

1:44:31

the state?" Sobyanin, Yakushev, Falkov,

1:44:33

is there some kind of pattern?"

1:44:34

Of course there is. The mafia. The wealthy Tyumen

1:44:37

mafia. And it became allied with Putin's St. Petersburg

1:44:40

mafia. That is why Sobyanin drags

1:44:43

his own people along and brings them from

1:44:45

Tyumen. Tyumen is a region where

1:44:48

political lawlessness and

1:44:50

electoral fraud have always been the norm. In that sense,

1:44:53

well, they are simply bringing in their own

1:44:56

mafia, so that this mafia

1:44:58

could help here, including

1:45:01

to loot money. But it is not only, not only

1:45:03

the Tyumen one. For example, now

1:45:05

the construction minister, and before that

1:45:07

the deputy

1:45:08

to Sobyanin for construction, Khusnullin, brought his own

1:45:11

entire Kazan mafia with him.

1:45:14

Yeltsin used to bring along various

1:45:16

people from Sverdlovsk. In that sense, this is a

1:45:18

tradition, a disgusting tradition

1:45:19

of Russian politics: a person arrives

1:45:22

and brings a whole clan with him. Ah, and it is not

1:45:25

even in the sense that these are people with whom

1:45:27

he has worked. Any person

1:45:29

who is appointed somewhere—if I were

1:45:30

appointed or elected somewhere, there would be people with me

1:45:33

whom I know, whom I trust,

1:45:34

with whom I have worked. But there

1:45:36

it is a geographic principle, because, well,

1:45:38

it is like, we handled little matters together there,

1:45:40

and that is why they keep bringing them in. This is

1:45:43

the kind of personnel reserve they feel they need to bring in. And

1:45:46

that is because, well, well, like any mafia,

1:45:48

there is this, uh, system of mutual

1:45:51

cover-up and simply a system of oaths and

1:45:54

never giving up your own people. That is how everything is built

1:45:56

in Russia.

1:45:59

And when will they officially comment on

1:46:01

the petition? Well, there are a huge number

1:46:03

of questions about the petition. Last time, we

1:46:05

were not able, live on air, to collect

1:46:07

100,000

1:46:09

votes, because apparently, in the Kremlin,

1:46:11

not apparently—obviously—in the Kremlin they were very

1:46:12

worried that we would, right there live

1:46:14

on air, literally within a day, within a few

1:46:16

hours, triumphantly collect 100,000

1:46:18

verified signatures. So they

1:46:21

simply stopped counting signatures during

1:46:23

the broadcast. But in any case, we

1:46:25

did it in less than a day; we did it the

1:46:26

next day. And when will they

1:46:29

comment on it, and what will they say?"

1:46:30

Of course, they will drag it out until the very end.

1:46:32

Look, the political setup

1:46:34

is as follows: millions of people

1:46:37

are demanding that financial

1:46:39

assistance be paid out. Putin and his group, all of his

1:46:42

various economic advisers and his,

1:46:45

well, in the literal sense of the word, mafia—all

1:46:47

these Rotenbergs, Timchenkos, and so on—

1:46:49

they are also looking at these 11

1:46:51

trillion rubles. The main message behind

1:46:54

"let's provide aid" is that

1:46:56

there are 11 trillion rubles, so let's distribute them.

1:46:59

On the other hand, a few people are looking at that

1:47:00

and saying, "Damn, that is

1:47:03

11 trillion. It would be stupid to give it away." And

1:47:06

Putin, together with them, is sitting at the same

1:47:07

table, because they are one gang

1:47:09

of crooks. They say, "Damn, it would be

1:47:12

so upsetting and unpleasant. We

1:47:16

saved up these 11 trillion in order to

1:47:17

carve them up among ourselves, and now what, we are supposed to

1:47:19

hand it all over to some random Vasya

1:47:22

Petya, Kolya, and Makhmud?"

1:47:24

Of course not. That is why they do not want

1:47:26

to say anything. And when the time comes to say something,

1:47:29

they will, of course,

1:47:30

start talking about how, uh,

1:47:33

well, there are supposedly 100 reasons why they should not

1:47:35

give you money. That is exactly why we must not

1:47:37

stop collecting signatures. There must be

1:47:40

political pressure of sufficient

1:47:42

scale. Sitting there at their table and

1:47:44

worrying that those 11 trillion will have to be

1:47:48

not carved up, but partly handed out to people,

1:47:49

they will hand it out to people, because they

1:47:51

will be afraid of a political catastrophe, and

1:47:54

it will happen if we do not gather

1:47:57

a sufficient number of votes. And there is,

1:47:59

of course, one more important factor:

1:48:01

basically, these people who are sitting

1:48:04

there, they,

1:48:07

As I've said many times, they are so far

1:48:09

removed from real

1:48:10

life,

1:48:12

uh, for them it's like, you know, "I know

1:48:14

ordinary people" means you've talked to your driver

1:48:17

or you've talked to

1:48:18

the housekeeper.

1:48:20

They are so out of touch that they

1:48:24

really think that, well, there is no

1:48:27

such situation where everyone is outright

1:48:28

demanding it. And in that sense, of course,

1:48:30

the quote of the week, absolutely the quote of the week,

1:48:32

possibly of the month.

1:48:34

It was our labor minister, Kotyakov, when he

1:48:37

appeared on Pozner's program, he simply

1:48:40

said a brilliant line; everyone was

1:48:41

quoting it this week: you

1:48:43

know, we started, we made this

1:48:45

decision, one of the points of our

1:48:46

program, to allocate 10,000 rubles per

1:48:48

child. And we didn't expect, can you imagine,

1:48:51

we didn't expect that people would need

1:48:54

those 10,000 rubles so badly. 40,000 applications a minute.

1:48:58

Can you imagine, Pozner was really

1:49:00

there with him, and he understands he'll be shown

1:49:03

to an audience of millions, but he doesn't

1:49:06

understand what nonsense he's spouting. He

1:49:07

says to Pozner: "Can you imagine, we didn't

1:49:09

expect it. Let's look at 31

1:49:12

seconds. I'll play the clip. Vladimir

1:49:14

Vladimirovich announced this measure. And

1:49:17

on the ...th there were

1:49:20

around 40,000 requests per minute from

1:49:23

different... per minute. 40,000 requests per

1:49:25

minute to the website to receive these

1:49:27

payments.

1:49:28

Per minute,

1:49:29

of course, to be honest, my colleagues and I

1:49:31

probably did not expect such

1:49:32

demand for this measure. Right. But

1:49:35

already today, as of the time I was

1:49:37

coming here for the program, already today we

1:49:40

have received almost 8 million applications

1:49:43

through the government services portals. They

1:49:45

cover more than 11 million children.

1:49:50

Didn't expect it. He's the labor minister. You're the

1:49:52

labor minister. You pay unemployment

1:49:54

benefits. You're a minister, for God's sake.

1:49:56

You know the official statistics: 22 million

1:49:58

people below the poverty line. Official

1:50:00

statistics. And he says, "We didn't expect it.

1:50:02

People need 10,000 rubles. Damn, I spend

1:50:05

that 10,000 rubles just to, I don't

1:50:07

know, buy coffee in a café. One lunch

1:50:10

costs me 10,000 rubles. So who could

1:50:13

have known, who could have guessed that they

1:50:15

really are sitting there with no money? And they

1:50:16

discuss it. And Pozner is like, "40,000 a

1:50:18

minute. Wow, yes, 40,000 a

1:50:21

minute, because your Channel One and

1:50:23

all your officials have literally, excuse

1:50:26

the expression, eaten everyone else alive."

1:50:28

People have no money." And this, of course, this

1:50:31

is very important for understanding the psychology

1:50:33

of this government. Every other question here

1:50:34

is about psychology. Why do they do

1:50:36

this, why do they do that, uh, all

1:50:39

of this they do because,

1:50:43

well, Putin has been sitting in the Kremlin since 1996.

1:50:46

Since 1996, we're talking

1:50:48

about someone who has been ruling the country for 20 years,

1:50:51

since 1996 he has been a senior

1:50:54

official, deputy head of the

1:50:56

Presidential Property Management Department. The most

1:50:58

thievish sphere there was in 1996 under

1:51:01

Yeltsin. They stole just about everything there. And

1:51:03

Putin was there, busy with all sorts of shady dealings.

1:51:05

Then he headed the FSB (Russia's security service) in order to

1:51:07

cover up those shady dealings. And before that he

1:51:10

was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg. So

1:51:12

for decades now he has been a major

1:51:16

official with a government car,

1:51:19

huge state apartments, a pile of

1:51:21

privileges, and envelopes, envelopes,

1:51:24

envelopes full of cash. And all of them, well,

1:51:26

look at them all there, whether it's

1:51:27

Sobyanin or anyone else. They've been there for decades

1:51:30

and for decades have been

1:51:33

millionaires and billionaires in dollar terms

1:51:36

and so on. So to them, really,

1:51:38

10,000 rubles is like—what's the point of giving

1:51:41

him 10,000 rubles if we'd rather

1:51:43

save up that money and take it for ourselves?

1:51:47

They genuinely think that's the more

1:51:48

rational and proper thing to do—like,

1:51:51

steal it and spend it wisely. That is,

1:51:53

buying a yacht somehow, well, seems

1:51:57

more normal than handing out money to some

1:51:59

people—10,000 rubles each. What do they need 10,000 for?

1:52:01

They still won't buy a yacht or anything with it.

1:52:04

And that is exactly how

1:52:06

exactly how everything is

1:52:08

set up for them. And at the same time, in

1:52:11

Russia, two astonishing

1:52:13

processes are taking place. Well, not just in Russia—in the world.

1:52:15

People are getting poorer. Ministers are surprised that

1:52:18

people are getting poorer and need 10,000 rubles. And this

1:52:20

week a ranking of the richest

1:52:23

people in the UK comes out. Two

1:52:26

of them are from Russia. Two people.

1:52:29

What place is Usmanov in? Second

1:52:30

or third? Ah, seventh.

1:52:32

Seventh place with a fortune of £1.6 billion

1:52:36

pounds sterling, and in twelfth place

1:52:38

Roman Abramovich. So there you have the

1:52:40

direct connection. Both Usmanov and

1:52:42

Abramovich—people who have brought zero benefit.

1:52:45

These are just old Soviet

1:52:49

enterprises that, in Abramovich's case,

1:52:51

pulled oil out of the ground, and in

1:52:54

Usmanov's case pulled ore out of the ground,

1:52:56

sold it abroad, and now

1:52:59

they are the richest citizens

1:53:00

of the United Kingdom. And here, someone is choking in an

1:53:02

electronic queue just to

1:53:04

get a share of 10,000 rubles. Let's recall

1:53:06

30 seconds of the wonderful Usmanov, from the

1:53:09

absolute classics of Russian

1:53:11

the oligarchs when he made his

1:53:13

video address to me and said that

1:53:14

I was, like, just jealous, while he

1:53:16

lives in peace with himself.

1:53:18

The profit I made there

1:53:20

amounted to more than $4.5 billion.

1:53:22

So, out of that money, besides

1:53:25

taxes, I gave away another billion.

1:53:28

to charity and simply to help

1:53:31

people. And with the rest, if you're

1:53:33

really that interested,

1:53:35

I just want to explain this to you so that

1:53:37

you won't be jealous. I bought everything I

1:53:40

have, including a beautiful boat and

1:53:44

a plane, because I live in

1:53:46

happiness, Lyosha, unlike you.

1:53:50

Well, of course he lives in happiness, unlike

1:53:52

everyone else. Sure. He stole

1:53:54

$12 billion, gave $1 billion

1:53:56

to charity, and with the rest of the

1:53:58

money bought a yacht and everything else.

1:54:00

Now he lives in happiness and thinks

1:54:02

that's normal. But this wasn't some

1:54:04

hidden camera footage — it was an address

1:54:07

made in such a way that it would be

1:54:09

seen by as many people as possible.

1:54:11

That just perfectly

1:54:15

explains why all of this is happening.

1:54:18

A lot of questions are coming in about, well, the Moscow Region

1:54:21

passes being canceled. What do you

1:54:24

think, in general, about how

1:54:25

the quarantine will be organized going forward? What

1:54:26

is happening right now with the quarantine,

1:54:29

the restrictions, and everything else? Well,

1:54:31

look, it's a mess. The mess

1:54:34

is continuing. And in that sense, it is still

1:54:36

the key word for Russian

1:54:39

public administration. The best, uh, the best

1:54:42

demonstration of what this

1:54:43

mess looks like — I saw it today from the head

1:54:45

of our штаб in Bashkortostan, Lilia Chanysheva.

1:54:48

She simply posted an image showing

1:54:50

the sequence of actions taken by

1:54:53

the president of Bashkortostan. Uh, here's what he

1:54:57

did when the coronavirus hit. So,

1:55:00

Khabirov first introduced a self-isolation regime,

1:55:04

then nine days later a curfew,

1:55:07

then the next day allowed people to travel

1:55:09

somewhere if they completed electronic

1:55:11

registration, then canceled, canceled that

1:55:14

travel registration, then after

1:55:16

a few days lifted the isolation regime,

1:55:18

but kept the curfew, then

1:55:20

brought back self-isolation only for, uh,

1:55:23

the elderly, then allowed people to travel

1:55:25

somewhere. I mean, uh, you know, there's

1:55:28

this famous funny thing, funny

1:55:30

and true, where people were proving that

1:55:33

investment bankers aren't really

1:55:34

needed, because, well, because they

1:55:36

are pointless, they deceive people, and, uh,

1:55:38

they took a stock portfolio put together by

1:55:40

investment bankers, and they took

1:55:41

a monkey — an actual monkey — and

1:55:43

rearranged blocks in front of it. And

1:55:45

the monkey chose the blocks, and

1:55:47

according to those blocks, an investment portfolio was

1:55:49

formed in exactly the same way.

1:55:51

So the smart investment bankers, like

1:55:53

this Khabirov in a tie, and

1:55:55

the monkey competed. And in the end, the monkey won.

1:55:58

If you appointed a monkey right now

1:56:01

as head of Bashkortostan, it wouldn't just win,

1:56:03

it would do a hundred times better than this

1:56:05

President Khabirov. Just absolutely

1:56:08

a million times better. Because what

1:56:09

is happening across the country right now, not

1:56:12

just in Bashkortostan, is simply chaos,

1:56:15

random numbers, as if someone were tossing

1:56:17

some dice. But most importantly, it's just

1:56:19

a bunch of crooks whose, well, only task

1:56:22

ever was

1:56:23

to rig elections for Putin and

1:56:25

steal. They never did anything else. So

1:56:26

Khabirov has never done anything in his life

1:56:28

other than rig elections and

1:56:31

steal. And now he's been told:

1:56:33

"Some kind of healthcare, some kind of

1:56:34

coronavirus." And he genuinely doesn't know what

1:56:36

to do. He doesn't understand how to read

1:56:38

an article. He doesn't understand how to

1:56:40

analyze foreign experience. He

1:56:41

understands nothing. So they do

1:56:43

all these strange things. And that's exactly

1:56:45

what is happening right now across the

1:56:47

country. And in Moscow there's this absolutely astonishing

1:56:49

story involving

1:56:51

the super-mega-technological Sobyanin.

1:56:53

Billions of rubles have been spent on a system

1:56:56

for, uh, registering citizens, tracking them,

1:56:59

analyzing their whereabouts, and so on. All

1:57:01

these passes, all these self-isolation violation

1:57:04

cases. And there was a disabled woman named

1:57:06

Irina Karabulatova. She has a

1:57:09

Facebook account, and she simply wrote there — which is how

1:57:11

everyone found out. She felt

1:57:13

unwell.

1:57:15

A doctor came. She is disabled, she cannot

1:57:17

move at all, she is bedridden. And she

1:57:21

felt unwell, a doctor came,

1:57:23

diagnosed her with ARVI, and then she received

1:57:26

a fine for violating self-isolation, because

1:57:28

she was supposedly required to install some

1:57:30

kind of app on her phone. She, uh,

1:57:32

wrote a post saying, guys, I am

1:57:37

a person confined to bed. I do not

1:57:39

go anywhere at all. And you're sending me

1:57:42

a huge fine for allegedly violating

1:57:45

the self-isolation regime. Naturally,

1:57:48

a scandal erupted. They apologized to her,

1:57:52

and the mayor's office said, my God,

1:57:54

this is a terrible mistake. It's one

1:57:56

small glitch. And of course we are canceling,

1:57:59

voiding Irina Karabulatova's fine.

1:58:02

What happened the next day? She

1:58:04

was issued another fine. She was issued yet

1:58:07

another fine. And now thousands of people

1:58:10

in Moscow are receiving notifications that

1:58:12

A fine has been issued for no clear reason, for

1:58:15

some alleged rule violation. I mean,

1:58:16

there is simply a system through which

1:58:19

a huge amount of money was stolen. This system works

1:58:21

terribly; it glitches nonstop. Ah, but

1:58:24

Sobyanin kept telling us for years

1:58:26

what a great IT expert he is, what a

1:58:28

brilliant manager he is, and how he was now going to

1:58:30

roll out his Big Brother system here.

1:58:33

And maybe the system does perform the function

1:58:35

of surveillance, and it performs the function of stealing

1:58:37

money through it perfectly well, but

1:58:40

the damn thing does not work. And all these

1:58:42

passes need to be abolished, but they still

1:58:44

keep them in place. And it still

1:58:46

keeps issuing fines. It’s like the saying: the mice cry, prick themselves, but

1:58:49

keep eating the cactus. That’s what

1:58:51

is happening. And in that sense, uh, we are

1:58:54

the same kind of mice, watching all of this.

1:58:56

Uh, and so when you ask me

1:58:58

what will happen next, I really do not

1:58:59

know what will happen next. I understand one

1:59:01

thing: they need to hold a vote.

1:59:04

They want to hold this vote on June 24,

1:59:07

and along with it they want a parade,

1:59:09

the Immortal Regiment (a Russian commemorative march honoring WWII veterans), in other words, some kind of

1:59:12

tinsel around this vote

1:59:14

to muddle our minds. And

1:59:15

that is why right now they are lowering all the

1:59:18

statistics so that by June 24 they can pretend

1:59:22

that we have defeated the coronavirus and hold

1:59:23

the vote. Probably, if this

1:59:25

kind of Dagestan situation keeps going on

1:59:27

and there is total chaos across the country, they will not

1:59:29

risk holding it on June 24 and

1:59:32

will do it later. But in any case, this is

1:59:34

the main and only thing the authorities are

1:59:37

thinking about right now: how to organize this

1:59:41

phony referendum, because Putin, uh,

1:59:43

understanding that his ratings are falling, wants

1:59:46

it immediately—well, like an old man

1:59:47

throwing a tantrum, he says: immediately.

1:59:49

I want them all to vote right now

1:59:52

and I want a piece of paper on my desk

1:59:53

that says: "All the people came to the

1:59:57

not a referendum, but a nationwide

1:59:58

vote and said that I am the most

1:59:59

beautiful, rosier and fairer than anyone else, I am

2:00:02

the loveliest of all in the world. The old man just

2:00:04

wants it and is being petulant." And the whole

2:00:06

system of power is geared precisely toward that.

2:00:10

A funny situation came up with these

2:00:14

Putin speeches about SNiPs (Russian construction codes) and

2:00:16

all that nonsense. I noticed it because

2:00:18

I immediately remembered that this had happened

2:00:20

exactly a year ago. And in fact, it has happened

2:00:22

many, many times.

2:00:24

At one of his regular meetings, Putin

2:00:27

started scolding people—well, as usual, the boyars (a sarcastic reference to subordinates) are

2:00:28

to blame. And he started complaining: "Guys,

2:00:30

why aren’t we building hospitals? I

2:00:32

promised that we would now be building

2:00:34

hospitals, but we can’t do it like in

2:00:36

China, where they just go ahead and

2:00:38

knock out these hospitals in five days. And it is all

2:00:40

because we have, supposedly, some kind of

2:00:42

SNiPs, some kind of nonsense, some heap of

2:00:44

paperwork and red tape going on, which I

2:00:47

said long ago should be abolished. Let’s watch it. 31

2:00:49

seconds.

2:00:50

A year. He told me it would take a year

2:00:52

for the design work, and another two years for

2:00:55

construction.

2:00:58

Listen, by the end of July this facility will already be

2:01:00

completed. I am perfectly well aware

2:01:03

of what is happening in this field. We

2:01:05

have discussed this many times. All these SNiPs,

2:01:07

all this nonsense, and the people who have latched onto this kind of

2:01:11

activity, uh, these quasi-participants

2:01:14

in the process—listen, they need to be

2:01:16

finally cleared out; in the end, we need to

2:01:19

put things in order there,

2:01:24

Exactly, just as he says—bravo,

2:01:26

our national leader: clear them out, put things

2:01:29

in order—that is exactly what needs to be done. For 20 years

2:01:31

he has been in power, and he says: "Clear them out,

2:01:32

put things in order." Exactly one year ago, on

2:01:34

May 16, 2019. So what did our

2:01:38

energetic tsar-president say about

2:01:40

SNiPs? Let’s listen. We need to change outdated

2:01:43

rules and SNiPs, and we need to

2:01:47

resolve the issue of pricing. It is

2:01:49

completely obvious, yes, because under

2:01:51

today’s rules, something may cost

2:01:55

10 rubles, but if it is valued at two,

2:01:59

it is impossible to carry out this work. That is

2:02:01

true.

2:02:04

He says the same thing about these SNiPs

2:02:06

—that it is impossible to get anything done. So then, what

2:02:08

is actually happening in the country? Look,

2:02:10

it makes sense when a president wants some

2:02:12

reforms, but there is a large opposition

2:02:14

in parliament, and he cannot push them through

2:02:16

because he has to negotiate.

2:02:18

It makes sense when there is a president who wants

2:02:21

to change something—for example, abolish SNiPs—

2:02:23

but he is generally in opposition, in the minority,

2:02:25

a minority in parliament, and no matter what he does there,

2:02:27

he just cannot get that law

2:02:29

passed; it does not work out. As very often happens

2:02:30

all over the world, in places where

2:02:32

there are parliamentary republics: you promise things,

2:02:34

you win on those promises, and then you cannot

2:02:36

deliver. But here, United Russia

2:02:39

controls not just parliament, but

2:02:41

every regional parliament; they have been sitting there

2:02:44

for the same 20 years with one-hundred-percent

2:02:47

control over everything. Any law can be

2:02:50

passed just like that, in a minute, just as

2:02:52

they in fact did with

2:02:53

the Constitution. And they sit there saying:

2:02:55

"We need to abolish SNiPs." Yes, we need to abolish

2:02:56

SNiPs. A year later, the All-Russia People’s Front says we need to

2:02:59

abolish SNiPs. Yes, we need to abolish SNiPs. And

2:03:01

yes, for 20 years you can simply sit down

2:03:05

and look at every single problem. Rising fuel prices,

2:03:08

business regulation, these

2:03:10

wretched SNiPs every year

2:03:13

They say, "Yes, it needs to be removed." And then they don't remove it.

2:03:15

Never, because the task is

2:03:18

different. So then he was asked a question:

2:03:20

"Why the hell can't we build a

2:03:21

hospital?" Mm, the SNiPs (Soviet/Russian construction and building regulations), the SNiPs are getting in the way. Then

2:03:24

they got moving, and then right away the Rotenbergs,

2:03:27

Timchenko—let's sort things out, what the hell

2:03:29

do we need building codes for? We need to carve up 11 trillion.

2:03:32

And they started carving it up. And this isn't

2:03:35

an exaggeration. Theft requires

2:03:38

administration. It requires, well,

2:03:41

some kind of complex organizational schemes, and then

2:03:43

you no longer have time for anything

2:03:45

else. And a great example of this is our

2:03:49

wonderful, magnificent Speaker of the

2:03:51

State Duma, Volodin.

2:03:54

I mean, he is the

2:03:56

embodiment

2:03:58

of the toady who rules the country. The speaker

2:04:03

of parliament. Before that, one of the

2:04:06

top officials in the presidential administration.

2:04:08

The most famous thing Vyacheslav

2:04:10

Volodin has done in all his long

2:04:12

political career, where he prostituted himself

2:04:14

everywhere, was being a flunky,

2:04:17

first in Fatherland – All Russia, then

2:04:19

he switched over to United Russia—he was always

2:04:21

groveling before everyone and always clawing his way up. And

2:04:23

now, of course, his signature phrase is

2:04:25

that Russia's advantage is not oil

2:04:27

and gas, but Putin. Let's remember that. 15

2:04:30

seconds. Those threats that exist in the world

2:04:33

today.

2:04:35

Oil and gas are not our advantage, as you

2:04:38

can see—both oil and gas can fall in

2:04:40

price. Our advantage is Putin, and we

2:04:43

must protect him. Thank you.

2:04:47

And you see, with such forcefulness: it's not oil and

2:04:49

gas that are our advantage, it's Putin. What, are you

2:04:52

stupid or something—haven't you understood that

2:04:53

by now? Putin is our main

2:04:55

advantage. *The Insider* published a great

2:04:57

investigation about Volodin.

2:04:59

Go read it. But I'll briefly

2:05:02

tell you about it. Remember our

2:05:06

investigation about how Vyacheslav

2:05:08

Volodin has a mother who is 84

2:05:12

years old, and he registers things in the name of this mother of his—her name is

2:05:15

Lidiya Barabanova—including

2:05:18

his businesses, some of his shares, and in

2:05:20

particular, his property. And a huge

2:05:23

apartment there—500 square meters (about 5,380 sq ft)—was also

2:05:25

registered in the name of his elderly mother. And then he even

2:05:27

said, well, you know, my

2:05:29

mother is, like, in business,

2:05:31

ha-ha. And everyone laughs, everyone understands. There was

2:05:33

a huge scandal, for example, involving me

2:05:35

personally—a clash with the newspaper *Vedomosti*,

2:05:37

censorship, in which, among other things,

2:05:39

it started with them not passing on, not

2:05:40

reporting anything about this

2:05:42

mother's apartment to Volodin. Well, because Volodin

2:05:44

is a big, powerful man. And, well, the situation

2:05:47

is just completely obvious. I mean,

2:05:49

the woman is 84 years old, and she owns

2:05:52

a 500 m² apartment (about 5,380 sq ft). Guess who

2:05:55

that apartment really belongs to? Just to

2:05:57

refresh your memory—40 seconds from that

2:05:58

video of ours.

2:05:59

An extract from Rosreestr (Russia's state property registry) showing that

2:06:02

Vyacheslav Volodin created such wonderful conditions around his

2:06:04

elderly mother—conditions of love, tenderness, and care—

2:06:07

that Lidiya

2:06:10

Petrovna acquired for herself ownership of

2:06:12

a 400-square-meter apartment (about 4,300 sq ft) in the elite

2:06:15

residential complex Bely Lebed (White Swan) on

2:06:17

Vorobyovy Gory near Moscow State University. The place is

2:06:20

absolutely stunning—see for yourselves.

2:06:22

One of the best residential complexes in Moscow,

2:06:25

400 square meters. Apartments like that probably

2:06:28

barely even exist. That's four sotkas (about 400 m²), almost like

2:06:31

a standard dacha plot.

2:06:36

And now it has turned out.

2:06:44

[music]

2:06:47

We're back online again. It's a funny

2:06:48

standoff. Apparently, every time

2:06:50

I sort of boast and say, "And we've

2:06:52

managed to reconnect again," over there they

2:06:54

start running around, changing things, disconnecting

2:06:56

us. But nevertheless, we're live again,

2:06:58

and I'll continue the story about

2:07:01

Volodin. So then, let's

2:07:03

take a look at his young wife, who

2:07:04

sings in a sarafan (traditional Russian dress).

2:07:07

Singing is the winner of the contest "Shumbrat, My

2:07:11

Land, My Mordovia"—Yana Polyakina.

2:07:15

Lisa Angelii Pavser.

2:07:21

Sankelisia.

2:07:28

summer

2:07:32

chashuch mamatoru

2:07:37

moronva sushnatsachu

2:07:43

mama storo

2:07:45

[music]

2:07:49

Our speaker got so lucky that he has not just

2:07:51

a young wife, but a rich young

2:07:54

wife, because along with the wife came

2:07:55

—who had also been his assistant—

2:07:57

an apartment: a two-level

2:07:59

apartment in the Fusion Park residential complex,

2:08:01

347

2:08:04

m² (about 3,735 sq ft). As you can imagine, that's a very, very

2:08:06

expensive apartment. But *The Insider* dug up the fact

2:08:09

that this apartment was registered in her name,

2:08:10

and then she transferred it to

2:08:14

a company, and that company, in turn,

2:08:15

belongs to his mother. So, in short, this whole

2:08:17

long story, briefly: now another

2:08:20

huge Volodin apartment belongs

2:08:23

to his mother as well—84-year-old

2:08:26

Lidiya Karabanova. And this is the kind of

2:08:27

thing that, you know,

2:08:29

always happens with them:

2:08:31

they sit in state, damn it,

2:08:33

positions, and then somehow the mother has an apartment

2:08:37

from who knows where, and then oh—there's a young

2:08:38

wife, and the young wife has some kind of

2:08:40

huge apartment. And all of it

2:08:42

adds up, and all of it gets registered in the name of

2:08:43

his mommy. And none of this will show up in the disclosure.

2:08:46

No, none of it will. And when the elections come around,

2:08:48

Volodin will come out and say:

2:08:50

"Guys, I don’t have anything,

2:08:54

except my salary in the State Duma.

2:08:56

I’ll be out there walking around Saratov for you," where he

2:09:00

is usually elected—well, where they

2:09:01

falsify the election for him so that

2:09:03

he becomes a deputy." And he goes on

2:09:05

about what an honest lawmaker he is, while

2:09:07

all these apartments are registered in his mother’s name. And how

2:09:09

did his thirty-three-year-old

2:09:11

assistant end up with, in the first place,

2:09:13

an apartment measuring 374 sq. m? Well, obviously,

2:09:17

we understand perfectly well. We know how

2:09:21

this works. It’s just that we don’t know exactly

2:09:24

how this money was carried around in suitcases

2:09:28

and who delivered it. But what we see here are

2:09:30

huge, colossal, corrupt,

2:09:32

obviously illicit incomes being hidden from us.

2:09:35

What I was getting at is that

2:09:38

all of this is complicated to administer. So

2:09:40

just imagine how much time Putin

2:09:43

has to spend stealing something,

2:09:46

squirreling it away, and registering it in his

2:09:48

family’s name, because he has to hide it ten times

2:09:51

better.

2:09:53

That’s because

2:09:55

Volodin can simply afford to put

2:09:57

everything in his mommy’s name. And then some

2:10:00

new young wife appears somewhere, but with Putin,

2:10:02

it’s even more complicated, right? Even for that same

2:10:04

Volodin, to set up this whole scheme

2:10:06

and control it all, it still takes

2:10:08

time. Lawyers, trusted people,

2:10:10

powers of attorney to sign, paperwork to process,

2:10:12

documents to transfer. All of that takes time. And instead,

2:10:15

of actually

2:10:17

running the country, they spend most

2:10:19

of their time on these

2:10:21

schemes. And then they say:

2:10:23

"Damn, I worked like a galley slave"—

2:10:26

that’s what Putin tells us, because all day long

2:10:28

there are people standing in the reception room.

2:10:30

Sign for this one, sign for that one,

2:10:33

assign something to another one, have something done for someone else. And

2:10:35

remember Volodin—we found a dacha

2:10:39

there, and not just Volodin’s, but a whole

2:10:41

crowd of them—a dacha cooperative called Sosna—in

2:10:45

the Istra District, with enormous country houses. There,

2:10:48

you can see how beautiful it is. But now it’s

2:10:49

even more beautiful, because

2:10:50

everything has been built. So now, in the end,

2:10:53

as our insider tells us, there’s

2:10:55

1 billion rubles’ worth of real estate there alone, and all of that

2:10:58

had to be built. Contractors had to be

2:11:01

hired, things had to be allocated somehow, hidden away,

2:11:03

all so that later he could walk around and

2:11:05

say, you know, I don’t have any of

2:11:07

this. I mean, the apartments kind of

2:11:09

exist, but on paper there’s nothing.

2:11:11

That takes a certain amount of time. And then

2:11:14

of course, you also need to have

2:11:17

a kind of superhuman brazenness. These people really do have

2:11:19

a superpower, like in

2:11:21

Batman, I don’t know. No, actually Batman

2:11:23

didn’t have a superpower, by the way. He was

2:11:25

just a rich guy. Superman has

2:11:26

a superpower, some

2:11:28

Green Lantern has a superpower, but people

2:11:30

like Volodin—their superpower is, of course,

2:11:32

the ability to lie shamelessly,

2:11:35

without even blinking or stumbling. Just

2:11:38

with such force and

2:11:43

such sincere indignation. Today in the

2:11:45

State Duma, there was some kind of

2:11:47

session, and a Communist deputy got up and

2:11:50

said what I said on my previous

2:11:53

program—well, everyone is saying it now.

2:11:54

If we introduced a mask mandate,

2:11:57

then let’s buy masks for people,

2:12:00

because it would cost the state

2:12:02

relatively little. And now you’ll

2:12:03

see this video, and first

2:12:06

United Russia member Makarov says something similar—he

2:12:09

literally says, you know,

2:12:12

buying masks for people is PR off

2:12:14

the coronavirus, and that’s heartless.

2:12:18

Heartless. In other words, the proposal

2:12:20

to give these poor people,

2:12:22

who are forced every time they enter

2:12:24

the metro to buy a mask, a mask

2:12:26

for free—what are you talking about? That’s heartless.

2:12:29

They’re simply staggering in their

2:12:32

brazen lying and their brazen,

2:12:35

even irrational behavior. We say:

2:12:37

"Give people money." They say that’s

2:12:39

heartless. It’s really something. And Volodin

2:12:42

immediately echoes him and says too: "What

2:12:44

is this? Why? Why do you keep

2:12:46

doing this all the time? You’re constantly

2:12:47

discrediting something. Discrediting what?

2:12:49

Let’s watch 56 seconds of heartless

2:12:51

behavior.

2:12:54

Please, Kurenny. Alexei

2:12:56

Vladimirovich.

2:12:57

The body or level of government that

2:12:59

introduces a state of emergency or

2:13:01

a high-alert regime is the same one that

2:13:03

must also provide, if the wearing of these

2:13:05

PPE—personal protective equipment—is

2:13:07

made mandatory,

2:13:08

the population with the appropriate

2:13:10

personal protective equipment. This is absolutely

2:13:12

normal, absolutely clear. If the state

2:13:14

or the municipality introduced it, then it should also

2:13:15

provide it, if it is mandatory.

2:13:18

We’re already used to PR at the budget’s expense. PR

2:13:22

off the coronavirus is inhumane.

2:13:25

Those enterprises that are operating now

2:13:29

have that option. And the state—

2:13:33

we made that decision together—counts

2:13:36

those expenses toward their

2:13:39

production activity.

2:13:42

Why do we take everything and not only

2:13:44

call it into question, but constantly

2:13:47

discredit it?

2:13:50

Yes, it’s hard for us not to question it,

2:13:52

because it’s completely unclear where you’re getting

2:13:53

all these apartments from, one after another,

2:13:55

worth hundreds of millions of rubles.

2:13:57

It’s genuinely impossible to understand where they come from. You

2:13:59

register them all in your mother’s name, and then

2:14:01

tell people they don’t need to buy

2:14:03

masks. This isn’t just some heartless mistake,

2:14:04

it’s inhumane. It’s simply inhumane.

2:14:07

The sheer nerve is absolutely astounding,

2:14:09

just unbelievable arrogance. And I wanted to tell you a funny story

2:14:12

about, uh,

2:14:15

Medvedev’s yacht. Anyone interested—I mentioned this exclusively—

2:14:17

anyone who wants to can right now

2:14:21

buy Medvedev’s yacht called

2:14:24

Fatinia. Do you remember the story from the film *He Is Not Dimon to You*

2:14:26

(a well-known anti-corruption documentary about Dmitry Medvedev)? You probably do: there was

2:14:28

first one yacht, and then later

2:14:31

another. Both of those yachts were named Fatinia.

2:14:33

And that was one of those, well,

2:14:35

indirect but amusing pieces of evidence

2:14:36

that this yacht really

2:14:38

belonged to Medvedev and was used by

2:14:39

his wife. Let’s take a few seconds—well,

2:14:42

three minutes and forty seconds—and watch a clip from

2:14:44

*He Is Not Dimon to You* so you can

2:14:45

remember which yachts we’re talking about,

2:14:47

because take a close look, please,

2:14:49

check the price. And right now you can

2:14:51

buy one of these yachts.

2:14:55

[music]

2:14:59

We uncover yet another Cypriot company,

2:15:01

Furina Limited, 100% owned

2:15:06

personally by Medvedev’s former classmate Ilya

2:15:08

Yeliseyev. And then just how much more

2:15:10

opened up to us after that. Furina has

2:15:13

a subsidiary company in Russia. It is called

2:15:15

Investment Partnership. Among

2:15:18

the certificates issued to this company, we

2:15:20

see a certificate for a Princess

2:15:23

85 MY yacht. At the time of purchase, such a yacht

2:15:27

cost around 200 million rubles. It looks

2:15:30

like this. Finding out what this yacht

2:15:33

was called is not difficult. In 2009,

2:15:35

Roskomnadzor (Russia’s communications regulator) issued the Investment

2:15:39

Partnership two radio station licenses

2:15:41

and specified which vessel they would

2:15:44

be installed on. The yacht is called Fatinia.

2:15:47

We immediately begin searching for this yacht

2:15:49

across Russia and find

2:15:51

a photograph from 2014, and in it we see

2:15:54

that very yacht, moored—where do you think?

2:15:57

In Plyos, at the pier of the Milovka estate,

2:16:00

that very secret country residence

2:16:02

of Medvedev. But that’s not all. In 2015,

2:16:05

the Investment Partnership

2:16:08

acquired another yacht. It was completely

2:16:11

new and much more expensive. The model was

2:16:14

a Princess 32M. The price was already $11 million

2:16:18

at the exchange rate at the time of purchase—

2:16:20

that was 630 million rubles. And with customs duties,

2:16:24

close to 900 million rubles. It was imported in the summer of 2015

2:16:29

and was called—you simply won’t

2:16:31

believe it—Fatinia as well. Their second

2:16:34

yacht was given exactly the same name.

2:16:38

So, Medvedev and his wife are crooks who have

2:16:41

a great deal of money. First they buy

2:16:42

one yacht for 150 million rubles.

2:16:46

Then, well, apparently that yacht isn’t fancy enough

2:16:48

for them. There you can see it in the

2:16:49

photo. So they buy another one for 865

2:16:52

million rubles. But what do you do with the old one?

2:16:56

Medvedev may like lots of houses, lots of

2:16:58

luxury, but he apparently doesn’t need the yacht anymore.

2:17:01

So where does it go, how do you get rid of it? How do

2:17:03

officials, corrupt ones,

2:17:05

get rid of assets in general? They

2:17:07

bring in some wealthy crook and

2:17:09

sell it to him. Enter Nikolai Shamalov.

2:17:13

No one knows this information. You’re

2:17:14

hearing it for the first time. Let’s take a look, please,

2:17:16

show us the image proving that this yacht

2:17:18

—Fatinia 1—was sold to Nikolai Shamalov.

2:17:22

He’s a friend and in-law of Putin. And here,

2:17:25

we’ve underlined it, yes: Shamalov, Nikolai

2:17:27

Terentyevich, you see? And he, by the way,

2:17:29

also renames the yacht in honor of

2:17:30

his wife Tatyana. Ah, so

2:17:33

Shamalov buys this very yacht from Medvedev,

2:17:37

but apparently he didn’t

2:17:39

really take to it, and now

2:17:41

he’s trying to sell it. Guess where—

2:17:45

on Avito? They actually listed

2:17:47

Medvedev’s yacht on Avito. It’s exactly the same

2:17:50

yacht—you can see the registration numbers and everything else

2:17:52

for 134 million rubles, which shows

2:17:55

how accurately we actually estimated

2:17:56

its value. So, first of all,

2:17:58

it really is funny. You know how it is:

2:18:01

you’ve got an old vacuum cleaner, you buy

2:18:02

a new one, and you say to your wife, ‘What

2:18:04

should we do with the old one?’ And she says, ‘Let’s

2:18:06

put it on Avito.’ Fine,

2:18:07

so you list it. And for them it’s exactly the same with

2:18:09

yachts. Like, ‘Medvedev made me buy this

2:18:12

yacht I don’t need,

2:18:13

just so I could funnel money to him. What am I supposed to do with

2:18:15

it now? Maybe let’s put it on Avito.’

2:18:16

I don’t know how often yachts are sold through

2:18:20

Avito, but in any case,

2:18:22

right now, at 22:23,

2:18:25

you have a unique chance to beat everyone else to it

2:18:27

for—sorry—

2:18:29

COVID doesn’t sleep. To go onto, uh, Avito and

2:18:33

pick up the yacht that was used by

2:18:36

the President of the Russian Federation, who

2:18:38

bought it with stolen money. It’s very

2:18:40

funny. Now let’s talk about something very

2:18:43

fun—well, I mean, it really

2:18:45

did look very funny. I watched

2:18:46

that segment and laughed. Ah, but in fact,

2:18:49

like everything in our program, it’s not

2:18:51

funny at all when it comes to my hometown. There is

2:18:55

a settlement in the Moscow region called Kalininets,

2:18:56

where I spent most of my life.

2:18:59

It’s a military town. The Taman Division is stationed there

2:19:01

and, uh, military personnel live there. These

2:19:04

servicemen and women are constantly suffering because

2:19:06

they don’t have apartments. It’s an endless

2:19:09

This is a scourge of Russia in general, and of state employees in particular,

2:19:11

especially the military. They don’t give them apartments,

2:19:13

even though they promised to. And then on Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel),

2:19:17

a report comes out about how wonderful it is

2:19:21

that in the settlement of Kalininets in the Naro-Fominsk

2:19:23

district, military personnel have started receiving apartments, and

2:19:26

they’re supposedly very happy with them. Well,

2:19:29

they show them standing there saying:

2:19:31

"Yes, everything is great here, we received

2:19:34

the keys to our service apartments." And somehow

2:19:36

it

2:19:37

just doesn’t look very sincere. And

2:19:39

their insincerity becomes obvious

2:19:41

when the camera shows what

2:19:43

these buildings and apartments actually look like. I’ll even

2:19:45

show you now not that report itself, I think

2:19:47

it was from Channel One, right? But rather a guy

2:19:50

filming that Channel One report on his phone

2:19:53

and his reaction to it.

2:19:56

Because my reaction was about

2:19:58

the same. I’ll stay in the corner of the screen because otherwise we’ll

2:20:00

get banned for showing Channel One footage

2:20:02

for 29 seconds.

2:20:04

More than 130 service members in the Naro-Fominsk

2:20:07

district are celebrating a housewarming. Together with

2:20:09

their families, they received the keys to service

2:20:11

apartments in the settlement of Kalininets. The rooms are

2:20:13

fully ready for occupancy. There is

2:20:15

everything necessary there: furniture, including

2:20:16

kitchen furniture, household appliances, even

2:20:18

curtains on the windows. There are separate areas for

2:20:20

storing baby strollers. In the courtyard there are

2:20:22

playgrounds, a sports complex, a recreation

2:20:24

area, and bicycle parking. Right now in

2:20:26

the same district, construction is being completed on

2:20:28

two more similar buildings for military personnel.

2:20:33

Come on, the director must have made a mistake and shown you

2:20:34

the wrong footage there. I mean, the guy

2:20:36

shows it, and then just starts laughing

2:20:38

hysterically, because they really are trailer units.

2:20:40

He’s literally choking with laughter, shouting:

2:20:41

"Trailers!" And in fact, they’re

2:20:45

housing military personnel in the near Moscow region, in an elite

2:20:48

Tamanskaya Division (a prestigious Russian military division), in

2:20:50

trailers, just like, I don’t know, like

2:20:52

migrant laborers on a construction site, as if they were not people

2:20:55

living in temporary housing. They’re

2:20:57

putting them in trailers and telling everyone that this is

2:20:59

great, super-modern housing, and everyone

2:21:02

is supposed to be proud. And that this is comfortable

2:21:04

housing. Seriously. I mean, this is just

2:21:08

on Channel One, and it’s not even that,

2:21:11

you know, they lied—they absolutely lied—

2:21:13

when they said this was comfortable

2:21:14

housing, but they actually showed what it looks like

2:21:17

from the outside. They are completely serious

2:21:19

in trying to convince all of us that this is a great

2:21:22

situation for Russian military personnel when they’re

2:21:25

living in trailers.

2:21:28

And of course, right away there was

2:21:29

a lot of laughter, a huge scandal around

2:21:31

this video. Russian-speaking

2:21:34

videos were immediately found and people started sharing them

2:21:36

everywhere. About how a serviceman who,

2:21:39

as I understand it, is originally from somewhere

2:21:41

in Central Asia, serves at a military

2:21:44

base in the U.S. And what does housing for

2:21:46

families in the U.S. look like? Let’s take a look. 1

2:21:50

minute 2 seconds.

2:21:51

They put these up specially for Bai so that

2:21:53

he’d feel more comfortable.

2:21:55

More comfortable, yeah.

2:21:57

I think the boogeyman will come get me at night.

2:22:00

Right. You’re the scary one, and I’m the boogeyman. Yeah.

2:22:05

Here we have our bedroom. Yeah. And

2:22:09

over here I just keep my army stuff,

2:22:13

you know.

2:22:18

My workout gear is here too. Nothing

2:22:24

special.

2:22:26

It’s enough. Sometimes buddies come over. And if

2:22:28

a second child is born, do they add another

2:22:31

room for you then?

2:22:32

Yes, then I’d move into a three-room apartment. This one

2:22:34

counts as a two-room. Damn.

2:22:38

Wow.

2:22:39

Here we sometimes play together. I even

2:22:42

bought this specially for Bai. There’s OCP too,

2:22:45

you know. By the way,

2:22:46

how many people live here in your

2:22:48

military town?

2:22:49

People? I heard that here, together

2:22:51

with civilians, it’s 35,000.

2:22:55

Well, there is a difference between this kind of

2:22:58

housing and a trailer. Fine,

2:22:59

maybe we can’t buy this kind of apartment for every one of our

2:23:02

officers. Although this isn’t exactly an apartment,

2:23:04

it’s more like

2:23:06

family dorm-style housing—what in Russia

2:23:08

is usually called a *malosemeyka* (a small family apartment unit), right? But can we really not

2:23:11

provide even something like this? Are we really

2:23:13

going to house people in trailers in the settlement of

2:23:15

Kalininets? Next time I’m there,

2:23:17

I’ll go there on purpose,

2:23:19

and take a look at those trailers. Maybe

2:23:21

I’ll do a report from there for you, maybe even

2:23:23

talk to someone, because this is genuinely

2:23:24

a disgrace. I mean, I come from a military

2:23:27

family, everyone around me is military, and they’re

2:23:29

being shown this and told that it’s

2:23:30

great housing. What a shame and humiliation.

2:23:33

And at roughly the same time as this

2:23:35

report, Putin comes out and says that

2:23:37

Russia is, in fact, a completely separate

2:23:41

civilization. And everything here should

2:23:43

be built on high technology. 13

2:23:46

seconds. Russia is not just a country.

2:23:49

It truly is a separate civilization.

2:23:51

If we—if we want to preserve this

2:23:54

civilization, then of course we must place emphasis

2:23:56

specifically on high technology and on

2:23:59

its future development.

2:24:01

You see, not a country but a separate

2:24:03

civilization. Apparently this is our great

2:24:05

civilizational glue: putting people in

2:24:08

trailers. Foreign military personnel also sometimes live in trailers,

2:24:10

in combat zones,

2:24:12

of course. If you google how

2:24:15

American military personnel live in

2:24:16

Afghanistan, you will see exactly the same kind of

2:24:20

trailers that officers live in

2:24:22

in the settlement of Kalininets, Naro-Fominsk District,

2:24:24

Moscow Region. But there is still

2:24:26

a small difference between Afghanistan and

2:24:29

a combat zone, and the settlement of Kalininets. There is one,

2:24:32

and it is quite a big one. I mean,

2:24:34

this is just really, of course, absolutely

2:24:37

an utter, complete disgrace.

2:24:40

And at the end of the program I wanted to

2:24:42

tell you a story from the category of “we were

2:24:47

right.” It is very satisfying to say that,

2:24:49

because, because indeed we

2:24:51

were right. And even though only after

2:24:55

several years, you cannot say that

2:24:58

the truth has prevailed, because

2:25:00

there has been no happy ending so far,

2:25:02

but nevertheless I feel enormous,

2:25:04

enormous satisfaction from

2:25:07

telling you this story. Novaya

2:25:09

Gazeta published a major investigation.

2:25:11

Andrei Zayakin is the author, a person

2:25:13

who is a friend of the Anti-Corruption Foundation

2:25:14

and has done a lot together with

2:25:15

us, a terrific guy. He wrote about

2:25:19

the fact that the Attorney General

2:25:22

of Switzerland is now under threat of

2:25:25

resignation.

2:25:26

That is the preface.

2:25:29

Uh,

2:25:31

we at the Anti-Corruption Foundation

2:25:34

run into this quite often.

2:25:35

Naturally, the authorities are always

2:25:36

telling us that, well, our investigation is

2:25:38

nonsense, a hit job, and completely made up

2:25:41

and all that sort of thing. Well,

2:25:43

we know that our investigations are

2:25:45

absolutely real, well-founded, and

2:25:48

supported by all the documents. But the most

2:25:51

problematic part for us is when

2:25:53

we file complaints abroad somewhere, and there

2:25:56

nothing happens. And we, well, and everyone

2:25:57

around us sees that, ah, well, here there are

2:26:00

absolutely ironclad grounds. And here

2:26:01

the courts and the police and everyone else

2:26:03

refuse us. Well, because they are the same kind of

2:26:04

crooks and thieves. They obey those

2:26:06

crooks and thieves. But in such

2:26:08

cases we say: “Well, they refused us here, so we’ll

2:26:10

complain somewhere abroad, where

2:26:11

there are honest courts and prosecutors, and

2:26:13

there they’ll nail these people, crack down on them,

2:26:17

do all sorts of other things to them.” And

2:26:18

when that does not happen, the Kremlin

2:26:21

rejoices, shouts, squeals, chirps with delight

2:26:24

and says: “Ah, see, that means

2:26:26

they have no evidence at all,

2:26:28

they have nothing, because even in

2:26:30

such-and-such a country they refused to investigate

2:26:33

Navalny’s materials.” These are always very

2:26:35

unpleasant moments. And that is exactly what happened to us

2:26:38

with Switzerland and

2:26:40

Prosecutor General Chaika. Our first

2:26:42

major investigation, when we were just

2:26:44

starting to make investigative videos,

2:26:46

was Chaika. It is second by number of

2:26:48

views on our channel. I am not even in it

2:26:50

because back then I was still afraid

2:26:52

to appear on camera. Let’s watch 1 minute 49

2:26:55

seconds just to remind you of

2:26:57

the story. It is the story of the corrupt

2:26:59

prosecutor Chaika and his whole family. In

2:27:01

particular, there was a section about Artyom

2:27:03

Chaika and his business in Switzerland. One minute

2:27:05

forty-nine. In the documents appointing the president

2:27:08

of the hotel and the company that owns it,

2:27:11

it is stated that Artyom Chaika is the holder of a

2:27:13

Swiss identity card.

2:27:15

That means this person pays

2:27:18

taxes there, owns

2:27:19

real estate there, and lives there. We found

2:27:21

that property.

2:27:23

In Swiss registries, the son of

2:27:25

Russia’s Prosecutor General is listed as connected to this

2:27:27

small house on the shore of Lake Geneva.

2:27:29

And on the mailbox it says:

2:27:33

“Monsieur and Madame Chaika.” We checked

2:27:36

the land registry, but it turned out that this house

2:27:38

does not belong to Artyom’s family.

2:27:40

The practical purpose of this house, in

2:27:42

principle, is clear. It is not meant for

2:27:44

living there, but rather for, uh, building up

2:27:47

residency time, for some kind of official,

2:27:52

paperwork, for obtaining citizenship or something

2:27:54

else. And second, it is to have

2:27:57

a mailing address in Switzerland, where

2:27:59

the Swiss authorities could send

2:28:02

correspondence.

2:28:04

Obviously, the search had to continue

2:28:07

and that if Artyom Chaika had already decided

2:28:08

to tie his life to Switzerland, then

2:28:11

we needed to look for a house on a more prosecutor-general

2:28:13

scale. What gave us hope was the fact

2:28:16

that the small house whose mailbox

2:28:18

bore the name Chaika,

2:28:20

was owned by a certain

2:28:23

Lisurenko family. As it turned out, this family was

2:28:26

not random at all. Liliya Lisurenko

2:28:29

is a friend of the family of Deputy Prosecutor General Gennady

2:28:32

Lopatin. Artyom Chaika’s real house

2:28:35

was found practically around the corner, a couple

2:28:38

of kilometers from the house with the mailbox.

2:28:41

A year earlier, Artyom Chaika bought a mansion

2:28:44

for almost 3 million francs. That is about 3 million

2:28:47

dollars. Stylish modern housing,

2:28:50

a great terrace, you can put out a table and

2:28:53

drink tea overlooking Lake Geneva and

2:28:55

the Alps.

2:28:57

You see, Georgy Alburov was already

2:28:59

a brave guy back then and appeared on video, while I still

2:29:01

was afraid at the time. But in any case,

2:29:03

this story, this part of our

2:29:05

investigation into Chaika, was that

2:29:07

Artyom Chaika, who was 25 years old at the time,

2:29:09

and the son of the prosecutor general,

2:29:11

comes to Switzerland, brings with him

2:29:13

several million dollars, he

2:29:16

sets up companies, he buys

2:29:18

real estate; he brings the money in and keeps it

2:29:21

in bank accounts in Switzerland.

2:29:23

Go ahead, try opening

2:29:26

a bank account somewhere abroad,

2:29:27

and putting, I don’t know, $100,000

2:29:30

into it. They’ll say, "Are you out of your mind?"

2:29:31

Please explain where you got those

2:29:34

$100,000. But there, the prosecutor’s son,

2:29:37

a young guy with millions of dollars, is buying up everything,

2:29:39

and the Swiss don’t ask any

2:29:42

questions. So of course, rubbing our hands together, on December 8,

2:29:45

2015, we filed a complaint,

2:29:47

a huge, beautiful, magnificent

2:29:50

complaint with the Swiss prosecutor’s office.

2:29:53

And then on March 28, a few months later,

2:29:56

it turns out they reviewed it, but they would not open a case

2:30:00

because there were

2:30:01

various reasons. In particular, in Russia,

2:30:03

Russia does not recognize this as

2:30:05

a crime at all, so they cannot

2:30:06

investigate money laundering because

2:30:08

there was no crime in Russia. And so,

2:30:11

of course, all the Kremlin people are jumping for

2:30:14

joy. Prosecutor Chaika is probably

2:30:16

laughing his head off. His whole family

2:30:18

is celebrating. Everyone points at us and says, "So,

2:30:20

what now? All your, all your materials

2:30:23

turned out to be complete nonsense, because

2:30:25

the Swiss — honest, wonderful,

2:30:28

incorruptible Swiss — well, obviously

2:30:30

you were wrong there, ha-ha-ha. What, did Putin

2:30:32

pressure them? They refused because

2:30:34

your investigation is nonsense, because

2:30:36

you have no evidence at all." But

2:30:38

it turns out

2:30:39

that none of that was true at all, that in fact

2:30:43

our investigation, and many others

2:30:45

that were being done at the time into

2:30:48

corruption — the corruption of our fellow citizens

2:30:51

and their stolen money in Switzerland —

2:30:53

were entirely real. It’s just that, uh,

2:30:58

the Prosecutor General’s Office, and really the Russian mafia as a whole,

2:31:00

had set up an effective system of bribery,

2:31:04

entertainment, and generally some kind of

2:31:06

integration of all

2:31:10

those Swiss prosecutors into their own corruption.

2:31:11

That is exactly what *Novaya Gazeta* published an investigation about.

2:31:15

They describe there

2:31:17

how the attorney general,

2:31:19

whom you see — no, that’s not him in the

2:31:21

picture — I mean Michael Lauber,

2:31:23

who came to Moscow, and his

2:31:26

assistants — they would simply arrive and then be

2:31:30

entertained. They were taken hunting in

2:31:33

Irkutsk Region, which, incidentally,

2:31:36

is where Prosecutor General Chaika himself is from. They were taken

2:31:38

on another hunting trip. Then one of the assistants to this

2:31:41

attorney general

2:31:42

comes over, supposedly

2:31:45

to do some shooting somewhere outside Moscow, but

2:31:47

they put him on a plane, then on a helicopter,

2:31:49

and fly him to Kamchatka. And there they

2:31:51

have fun and shoot. There was even

2:31:53

a special deputy prosecutor general for this,

2:31:55

Saak Karapetyan. But

2:31:57

may he rest in peace. He, incidentally, also

2:31:58

died in a helicopter crash during

2:32:00

an illegal hunting trip. Bring back that photo

2:32:03

from the boat. Here they are cruising

2:32:06

on Lake Baikal. Sitting on one knee there

2:32:11

is the attorney general of Switzerland. And

2:32:13

the third person from the right or left — well,

2:32:16

anyway, the guy with the blurred

2:32:18

face, the one being hugged next to him — that is

2:32:20

Deputy Prosecutor General Saak

2:32:23

Karapetyan, who was specifically responsible for

2:32:26

corrupting and entertaining this whole

2:32:29

Swiss, well, gang, because

2:32:31

it was exactly the same kind of gang. And, uh, in

2:32:35

order to, well, repay

2:32:37

the hospitality, perhaps they provided

2:32:39

some other services as well. We don’t know that yet,

2:32:41

but what is plainly obvious is that there were some

2:32:44

corrupt ties, and lavish,

2:32:46

expensive gifts. There’s one very funny,

2:32:48

well, funny detail. *Novaya Gazeta* also writes about it.

2:32:51

In 2017, this

2:32:53

Lauber received from Russian prosecutors

2:32:56

a dinner set as a gift. And this set was

2:33:00

so large that for several years

2:33:03

it was kept at the embassy; for several months

2:33:05

they couldn’t take it away, because, well, I

2:33:07

don’t know — it’s hard for me to imagine

2:33:08

how big a dinner set would have to be

2:33:10

if you simply can’t send it

2:33:12

as luggage or by mail to Switzerland, but it

2:33:13

must have been the size of a room. I mean,

2:33:15

I don’t know what kind of set it was, but that’s

2:33:17

the kind of relationship they had.

2:33:20

And at the same time, Switzerland was not

2:33:23

pursuing cases. Take our case about

2:33:26

Artyom Lopatin, Artyom Chaika, and

2:33:28

Lopatin. Same thing. Remember there was

2:33:30

Agriculture Minister Skrynnik,

2:33:32

who was accused here in Russia,

2:33:34

and who — well, this is a proven fact —

2:33:36

stole several million — several tens of

2:33:38

millions of dollars, laundered them in

2:33:40

Switzerland. She should have been held

2:33:42

accountable. And the case was closed.

2:33:44

In fact, the Magnitsky case was also

2:33:46

closed, and no one understood what

2:33:48

was going on. Why was Switzerland

2:33:50

somehow, well, unwilling to investigate any of this?

2:33:53

Why were these supposedly strict

2:33:54

German-speaking prosecutors like this? When this

2:33:56

Michael Lauber himself came,

2:34:00

we picketed the Swiss embassy.

2:34:03

We had special — you can see them —

2:34:04

placards in German,

2:34:06

and placards in English. Well,

2:34:08

because we were outraged. At the time I gave

2:34:11

many interviews to Swiss media and

2:34:13

said, "How can this be? That prosecutor’s office of yours

2:34:16

is supposed to — you can see it there,

2:34:18

another placard near the Swiss embassy —

2:34:20

it is supposed to investigate." This is very

2:34:22

important. Of course, we believe that your

2:34:24

the prosecutors were supposedly very honest and decent, while at the same time

2:34:26

these supposedly honest and decent

2:34:28

prosecutors were hanging out

2:34:30

on hunting trips with our crooks.

2:34:34

They were drinking with them, taking part in

2:34:37

completely illegal poaching

2:34:38

hunts, traveling all over the country,

2:34:41

accepting enormous dinner sets as gifts.

2:34:43

So anyway, right now in

2:34:45

Switzerland, proceedings are underway in which

2:34:47

the attorney general of

2:34:49

Switzerland, this distinguished gentleman

2:34:51

with his impressive gray hair, may, I hope,

2:34:55

be impeached, but in any case

2:34:57

there is already no doubt whatsoever

2:35:01

that this is how, guys, the export of

2:35:04

corruption works: the Russian

2:35:06

Prosecutor General’s Office somehow managed

2:35:08

to corrupt the leadership

2:35:09

of an entire country’s law enforcement system.

2:35:12

Just step by step: a hunting trip, then

2:35:15

something else, then something else. And

2:35:17

the most important cases, which had enormous

2:35:20

impact in our country — like the

2:35:21

Magnitsky case. Possibly the biggest,

2:35:25

the most important case in terms of how

2:35:27

deeply it left its mark on the political history

2:35:30

of our country. All of this — the

2:35:32

Magnitsky Act, the sanctions over

2:35:33

Magnitsky, the “Scoundrels’ Law” (a mocking name for Russia’s Dima Yakovlev law banning U.S. adoptions), and so

2:35:35

on — this is a huge story that

2:35:38

had a massive effect on everyone, on

2:35:40

the whole course of our country. And yet

2:35:43

the Swiss turned a blind eye to it.

2:35:45

Why? Because they were taken bear hunting.

2:35:47

Because they were taken to shoot

2:35:48

ducks somewhere around Kaliningrad. Not in

2:35:50

Kaliningrad itself — somewhere, uh,

2:35:51

well, in Yaroslavl Region, where

2:35:53

the hunting is good. They were taken there,

2:35:55

that’s how it worked. That’s how the whole thing is set up.

2:35:57

But as you can see, in Switzerland

2:36:00

this process is underway, and we’ve already learned

2:36:03

a lot. Maybe one day we’ll learn

2:36:05

even more. And when, at last,

2:36:07

the Beautiful Russia of the Future arrives,

2:36:09

I think there could be parallel

2:36:12

trials: in Russia, we will

2:36:14

try and imprison all the Chaikas (a reference to Prosecutor General Yury Chaika and his family), while in Switzerland

2:36:17

they will try and imprison all those

2:36:20

crooks who were funneling money to the Chaikas.

2:36:22

And as I wrap up this program, I want

2:36:26

to show you

2:36:27

a wonderful video. At the end of every

2:36:30

program I tell you: let’s

2:36:31

vote against United Russia, because

2:36:33

it’s very important, because it is

2:36:34

bad. Because it is awful. And here is

2:36:37

a 58-second video that you can basically

2:36:39

just send to your relatives,

2:36:40

friends, grandmothers — anyone, really — those

2:36:42

people who love Putin. It’s

2:36:45

extremely eloquent. Doctors in

2:36:49

Lipetsk — medical workers in Lipetsk — are also

2:36:51

complaining that they are not being paid those

2:36:54

Putin bonus payments. United Russia,

2:36:56

the United Russia party, responded to

2:36:58

the fact that doctors were not receiving the bonuses

2:37:00

by sending them, uh, material aid. In other words,

2:37:04

a decision was made to provide doctors with

2:37:08

material assistance. What does

2:37:10

material assistance from the ruling party

2:37:13

of our country look like?

2:37:15

Today the ambulance staff were given a food package.

2:37:19

Lipetsk. From United Russia. This is

2:37:22

instead of 25,000 rubles

2:37:25

— or for 25,000? You still can’t quite

2:37:28

figure it out.

2:37:29

Maybe 20,000, maybe 25,000.

2:37:31

There are five ingredients here. Each one is worth

2:37:33

5,000.

2:37:34

Tea: 5,000. 5,000.

2:37:36

One, two, three, four — yes, five ingredients.

2:37:38

Each one is 5,000.

2:37:40

The bread rings are 5,000. Yeah.

2:37:42

When else in your life are you going to eat a chocolate bar worth

2:37:44

5,000? No, don’t. This isn’t United Russia.

2:37:47

You need to set the spoon aside over there.

2:37:49

Come on, scoop out the spoons.

2:37:50

Open the tea bags — the money must be

2:37:52

inside.

2:37:53

Oh, come on, really?

2:37:56

So how much is in here?

2:37:58

Well, count it. 5,000. Tea alone is 5,000.

2:38:02

These things are 5,000. Damn. Oh, Vladimir

2:38:04

Vladimirovich, we don’t need money. Just

2:38:07

send us another food package like this

2:38:09

and that’ll do. We don’t need money at all.

2:38:14

They promised 25,000 in COVID bonus payments, but they didn’t even give them that,

2:38:17

and instead they sent a handful

2:38:19

of bread rings, some tea bags, and three oatmeal

2:38:23

cookies. It’s a perfect metaphor for what

2:38:26

is happening in Russia as a whole, when

2:38:27

instead of our share of the nation’s

2:38:30

wealth, instead of our part in

2:38:32

the wealth of our economy, we receive

2:38:34

exactly this: a handful of bread rings and three

2:38:37

oatmeal cookies. We will not put up with

2:38:39

this, and we will fight this system until

2:38:41

we make it at least

2:38:43

a little more just. Thank you very

2:38:45

much to everyone who watched. I’ll see

2:38:46

you next Thursday. Please excuse

2:38:48

the technical interruptions.

2:38:50

We hope that next time we’ll

2:38:51

come up with something clever and they won’t be able

2:38:53

to block us. Bye.

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