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complaints, and so on. And today we
have a lot to discuss, as
usual, really. I do not know how long it
will take—three, two hours, or less, or more.
We will see. We will go with the flow.
I will gauge it by how much you
are watching. Those who came on time, I will
treat to a very cool document right
off the bat. This document really
does a great job of, first, putting everything
in its proper place—showing who is who in today’s
Russia—and second, it gives a straightforward
instruction manual for action for everyone. If
you want to achieve something—whether to stop construction
from happening, or to make sure wages are paid, or
to get candidates registered, or whatever
else—there is a direct instruction there.
Although it is not some
telegram from the Washington obkom (a sarcastic Soviet-style reference to an alleged foreign command center), and it is not a secret
manual on how to carry out orange
revolutions. It is a letter from the Minister
of Ecology of the Moscow Region. The thing is,
that in the Ruzsky District—for those who do not live
in the Moscow Region and do not really know
it, there is such a district called Ruzsky.
It is not the near suburbs of Moscow, but it is the kind of place with
an elite reputation, good ecology, and where land
is fairly expensive. And so the minister
of ecology for the Moscow Region
is coordinating with Governor Vorobyov,
a billionaire, well known,
a notorious election rigger, and generally a kind of
mafioso, the location for sand
quarries. Well, they need to make
sand quarries. You understand perfectly well that
nobody wants a sand quarry built next to their
dacha (country house). And the way they choose
where to build
and dig out that sand quarry,
and where it cannot be done, is explained by
the Moscow Region’s ecology minister. Look,
he writes to the governor that in this
particular place he is issuing a negative
opinion. Construction is not allowed there because,
please show this document,
part of the population has high social
status and wealth. In other words,
he says outright that you cannot build
in this place because
rich people live there. In addition,
apparently some officials live there too, a couple of
bureaucrats, so building here
is not allowed. Wealthy people, high social
status. And where can they build? That is on the second
page of this letter. It says directly
that mineral extraction can be carried out
where there is low protest
activity among the population. That is, if you
do not make a fuss, do not go to rallies, do not
write open letters—in other words,
if you simply do not do the things that
the authorities really dislike—then right next to
your home they will build a sand quarry.
And this really is a very
important description of what
is happening in Russia. And probably some of you
are thinking right now: “Well yes,
we have seen what those dachas
look like. I am not an oligarch, but
I have a decent dacha, two or three
stories. I drive there in a foreign car, while
over there there are these places where some
drunks have put up little shacks, maybe
or they just have vegetable gardens and
greenhouses. So of course it makes sense that
it is better to build a sand quarry there,
knock down all those ramshackle huts, and
put something there, build something, right?”
But the thing is that those
greenhouses, compared with you, are a
shack. And your own little house, the one you
drive to in your foreign car, bought on
credit—or even not on credit—is also
just a shack compared with
Rotenberg, compared with any
official whatsoever, compared
with simply any rich person at all.
That is exactly how the system works.
They simply look at wealth,
high social status. So if, say,
I do not know, some
buddy of our governor Vorobyov,
Shoigu, or that whole prosecutorial
mafia, just needs some space, you know, at the
dacha. “We decided to ride ATVs, so
we need a couple of hectares of open land,”
then they will demolish your place, relocate you, or
simply deny you any permits for anything.
And that is because they have
high social status, while you
have nothing. And on top of that, you have low
protest activity. So, my friends,
in order to
achieve at least something, you need high
protest activity. It is absolutely not
guaranteed in our country that if
you have strong protest activity, you
will definitely get your way. But
it is guaranteed that if there is no
protest activity, you will get 0
rubles, 0 kopeks. In other words, you’ll get a dump,
a landfill nearby, a sand quarry, and so
on, and so on, and so on. Remember
that. Today we’re going to discuss, uh, many topics
that, as usual, in fact
as always, require a high level of
protest activity. 40,000 people
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snarky questions for me. So
well then, Alexei, what do you think about the fact that
Maria Zakharova was given the Order of Honor? There are lots
of jokes about this, that Maria Zakharova was
awarded the Order of Honor for winning the
debate against me. Well, actually,
that’s exactly what it is. It’s a pattern
of behavior. It’s not even just some kind of
joke in the Kremlin, like, let’s
award her because, well, you know,
Navalny went after her, and she got torn apart
on social media. Even the association
of travel agencies is writing her huge
letters, there are thousands of signatures, tens
of thousands collected demanding her
resignation. I mean, this person is genuinely
bringing disgrace on the country, both by
her behavior and her stupidity, however
you want to put it, a real disgrace, an embarrassment. And they
award her the Order of Honor right
now. Why? Because this is what they
always do. Let’s remember how this
works. There have been many such cases. Let me
just remind you. Geremeyev, remember
Geremeyev, from the
Federation Council, was awarded on the day of the
fifth anniversary of Boris Nemtsov’s murder, although,
well, you know very well, I personally believe
that his nephew, Geremeyev’s nephew, and obviously
the elder Geremeyev, were involved in all of this. He,
uh, I mean, even from the case materials
everything points to the fact that he was one of the
organizers of this murder. And they
knew perfectly well that the fifth anniversary of the
murder was coming. And everyone on social media would be writing
how outrageous it is that even Geremeyev wasn’t
questioned, the organizers weren’t found,
the masterminds weren’t found, everyone would be furious.
And specifically on that day, they demonstratively
support their own. The same goes for Maria
Zakharova. Precisely because she is being criticized on
Twitter, precisely because, well, it’s hard
to find a person in the country who would
look at Maria Zakharova in any way other than
like this and say: "Horrible, horrible, horrible."
It is very important for them to support her because,
well, basically, she does what her
she just lies endlessly, yes, she
lies in a deeply shameful way, but she is ready
to serve them, uh, in absolutely any way and do
whatever is required and endure any humiliation,
for the sake of her superiors’ interests.
That is why it is so important to award her the Order
of Honor with the wording: for implementing
the foreign policy course and for many years of
conscientious diplomatic service.
It’s funny to us. Funny. It’s shameful for us to
look at this. It’s shameful for us to look at this. But
for Putin, this is very important. Let me give one more
example. Remember there was
Yakunin, the head of Russian Railways. Some of you may
have forgotten. And how much time we at FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) spent
on this man? My God, the biggest
chart that ever hung
on our office wall was a chart
of Yakunin’s offshore empire. It was
enormous. We printed it on several printers,
uh, photographed it, released film after film
about him endlessly. I mean,
we took his whole empire apart
piece by piece. He was the head of Russian Railways, a very
powerful man; nothing could
be done to him. In 2013
we released an investigation about him, and he was
awarded the Order of Friendship for his
labor achievements and many years of
conscientious work. Demonstratively.
So, we lay out all the
irrefutable evidence that
the man simply stole everything. Simply everything
at Russian Railways. The famous fur storage room.
Where did that come from? Remember Yakunin? Well,
in his enormous estate in Akulinin
there was a special little room that on the
floor plan was marked as: a room with
refrigerators, a fur storage room. Because
fur coats have to be kept cold so that
their, you know, little bits of fur
from these killed animals would stand up and
look beautiful, smooth, and shiny. And,
I mean, so he too was specially,
demonstratively awarded, like yes,
of course, Navalny came after you,
millions of people saw it,
everyone is outraged, everyone at Russian Railways is sending it
to each other and saying: "What a
crook our boss is. But no, that won’t do." Despite
the fact that he was a crook and unpleasant, and
even though we did eventually secure Yakunin’s dismissal
a few years later, right then and there
it was important for Putin to show support for his own
— for these thieves, crooks, these
nonentities, drunks, idiots, riffraff
everyone he has gathered around him. It is very important
to show support. And the main method of support
right now is what? Of course, trinkets. And so
that’s what he is handing out in this sense. We can see that
Putin is rapidly turning
into Brezhnev. And in that sense, there is
nothing new about it. Every crazy,
authoritarian leader who sat on
his throne for decades eventually reached
the stage where he simply started
handing out various things to everyone and, well, pinning on himself
endless medals. And they are simply
covered in all these medals. Putin has now
reached that stage. This is now their
main form of entertainment. And today
Shoigu was given one. And how exactly was he awarded?
With the Order
For Merit to the Fatherland, First
Class—but not the regular one, the one with swords. And
all the media stressed so heavily that it was with
swords—so what? I mean, good grief,
some swords—it's all ridiculous, but for
them it is very important, because they
give each other these baubles, and we will see a lot
more of this in the near future. 53,000
people are watching us live. Go ahead and
send me your questions, and I will
answer them.
People are asking me why there is a 0.5 on my
mug. What does it mean? Where else have you
seen the number 0.5, my dears? Of course,
you’ve seen it on numerous—or maybe not so
numerous, but still passing by you—
lowered, tinted Lada Prioras. That is,
of course, Dagestan, which I’m going to
talk about today and to which, in
fact, we all ought to express
our support, because today there is
a real catastrophe unfolding there. We’ll
talk about that. That’s why today my
mug is about Dagestan. But before we
move on to the main topics, I wanted
to follow up on some recent reports.
It’s very interesting. I know that, generally speaking,
not many people follow regional politics,
because, well, what’s happening out in the regions—
elections there, some kind of
local peculiarity. But in fact, this is
very important politics. So anyone who
does follow it, good for you. And if you don’t follow it and
find it boring, bear with me a little. Last time I
talked about, uh,
the scandal that is now unfolding
in the northern part of the country, because there is
an administrative process underway
to merge Arkhangelsk Oblast and
the Nenets Autonomous Okrug. And the Nenets
Autonomous Okrug is categorically against
this merger. And every person
who follows regional
politics knows this. But in Moscow, someone
decided, let’s merge them. And they
started trying to do it. I spoke about this in
the previous program and said it would be
very difficult to pull off. And of course,
they will falsify all the results of the
referendum, and there both federal
subjects have to vote in favor, but
it will still be very difficult. And it is
interesting how the notorious vertical of
power works, right? It would seem that everyone there
has been trained: once they’re told, well,
obviously this has been coordinated with Putin.
Merge. They are all supposed to fall in line from the top
down. But no, the vertical of power there
has bent or warped in this
case, because absolutely everyone is
outraged. The governor of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, of course, is signing
everything, but people there are genuinely furious,
holding one-person pickets and so on. Well,
the population there is small, but
very angry. And on the spur of the moment they
came up with the following option: let’s
have another United Russia member pop up and say:
"Why don’t we merge three
federal subjects then, so that, you know,
the residents of the Nenets Autonomous Okrug would be happier that
Arkhangelsk Oblast is being joined to them,
and it wouldn’t be just Arkhangelsk Oblast, but
Arkhangelsk Oblast, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, and Komi." Well,
I mean, for those of you who can picture
the map of the country, right? Roughly
what it looks like? You see
how large that federal subject would be
if you just, you know,
draw it with a marker. It would be, damn it, a third
of Europe, and still with a fairly small
population—probably somewhere around 2 to 2.5
million. I mean, population-wise, it’s
just complete nonsense. Once again, they simply want
for some unclear reason to take a gigantic
territory and cram it into one
federal subject. As it is, the country is already
quite difficult to govern. I mean,
in that case, why not just merge the entire
European part of the country? Why not? There are
some tiny regions there—let’s just mash them
into one region. But most importantly, why?
It’s as if United Russia said so, and
everyone is supposed to say, "Yes, sir," and go
do it. But no, in Komi this no longer
works. And it’s not just that it can’t even
be faked there anymore, because Komi is
a fairly, well, nationally minded
region in the sense that they
want Komi identity to remain, they want to have
their language, because there really is
a people there, an ethnic group, and even the governor,
the newly appointed governor, comes out
and, well, sort of
in mild terms, says: "And why exactly
should we be merging here?"
Even despite the fact that the Kremlin
and United Russia ordered: let’s
create a super-region. Let’s watch
Komi Governor Vladimir Uyba. 1 minute 9
seconds.
This is a very serious issue. It is
the issue that has emerged over the past week
of merging the Nenets Autonomous Okrug (NAO) and Arkhangelsk Region.
I want to say right away that I, uh, am against
such
such talk, against such
ill-considered actions.
I believe this initiative should
come from the grassroots. It should come from
the people living in these regions. If
they need it, if it is a mutual decision
of two or three federal subjects, then yes, it
could happen. But if it is
some kind of bureaucratic decision-making
without the opinion of the people living in the
territory, then it is a doomed
option from the outset. So, of course, once again I
want to tell you: please do not
give in to the feeling that
this issue has already been decided, that this
is really happening. In fact,
this is just a hypothesis that is
being discussed.
My
position on this is what I have just expressed.
You see, now even the governor, the governor,
United Russia (the ruling political party), United Russia, is already
wriggling like a little snake and saying, "Don’t
fall for this." And you can practically hear
that the word is already on the tip of his tongue—
the word "provocations." But he can’t quite say, "Don’t
fall for provocations." After all, these are deputies,
members of United Russia, the official, official
message from the Kremlin, but he can’t say it anymore,
because the public is pushing back,
because, well, in order for everyone in Komi
to vote for unification,
they would have to falsify 100% of the votes. And in
the NAO they would also have to falsify 100% of the votes,
and the people on the ground, well, somehow
the times are different now, they understand
that Putin is no longer nearly as
popular, and on top of that we have elections coming. United
Russia is completely, utterly unpopular.
Well, of course it’s clear that teachers will
be made to help rig the elections, but even those
teachers, both in the NAO and in Komi, are strongly against
this whole thing, uh, so the vertical chain of command
immediately works much, much worse.
All right, a couple of questions. Viktor asks
me: "Alexei: comment on
the latest 1 million ruble lawsuit from the National Guard (Rosgvardiya, Russia’s internal security force).
When will they finally stop?" They never
will. As I understand it, the question
came up because reports appeared in the media
and I had already decided not to
write about it, but once again I was
fined over the lawsuit—excuse me,
the very same Zolotov case, the army general, the general
covered in medals, who robbed his own
soldiers, stole money on cabbage,
potatoes, and so on. After that we
released a video, and he sued me.
Naturally, he won that case, despite
the fact that we fully proved that
every word in our video was true, but
now they are demanding that I
delete all of it. And as long as I do not delete it, they
keep opening administrative cases
against me and fining me. Then, probably,
they’ll open a criminal case. The exact same
thing is happening to the director of
our foundation, Ivan Zhdanov, who
refuses to delete the film *He Is Not Dimon to You*
(an anti-corruption documentary about former Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev). What’s more, he cannot
delete it because it is on my personal
YouTube channel. But nevertheless
Zhdanov is being fined, and they have opened
a criminal case against him. The same thing is happening with
me over this Rosgvardiya lawsuit.
Alexander Shidnikov asks me:
"Please don’t forget to cover the issue
of Synergy’s lawsuit against the blogger and simply
good person Alexander Gorbunov,
aka Stalingulag. Well, indeed, I
wrote about this today on social media and
shared a link to his video.
They are threatening to launch
lawsuits against Gorbunov, even some kind of criminal case,
because they are demanding that he, uh, also
delete the video he made about
Synergy University, which he caught
engaging in some, uh,
some sort of abuses. As far as
I understand, from everything I have seen that he
says, it is absolutely well-founded.
Well, this is exactly how things work in modern Russia.
Back in the day they used to say:
"Well, either take it down or we’ll
sue, or let’s sort it out, because you’ve supposedly
damaged our
honor and dignity." Now everything works
differently. Especially since Synergy University
is the kind of place with
administrative
clout, let’s put it that way. And they,
naturally, go straight to: we’ll jail you, sue you,
fine you. In other words, they are trying
to crush him. And in that sense, of course,
he needs support. First and foremost, we need
to give this situation public attention,
because Synergy University probably
doesn’t want negative publicity,
and they may possibly back off from him
if people keep talking about it. All right, about the petition—
I see two questions. Ah, and I’ll talk about
that a bit later. The petition is an important
thing. Now,
you have probably noticed that
when Vladimir Solovyov had only just started
running his
YouTube channel, I was constantly taking little clips
from him, and all those nicknames of mine
for myself came from
when I introduce myself in the very
first seconds of the program, like "toad-like
hopper," I borrowed them from Vladimir Solovyov,
because he used to be so amusing on
his channel. That’s it, I’ve fallen out of love with Vladimir.
Solovyov's show. A new star. This is, of course,
Dr. Myasnikov. He is just an absolute idol
for us right now, really an idol of everything under the sun,
because he is not just, not just
some figure within Solovyov's program, but
also a catastrophic
and astonishing—rather, astonishingly—liar; he also
officially heads the information department of the task force
for combating the coronavirus. That is,
the chief official spokesperson for Russian
officials on the subject of coronavirus. And
he is simply a star. A marvelous
man—incidentally, the chief physician of a
large hospital in Moscow. Well, as a
doctor, frankly speaking, he's mediocre at best, he's
just one of those, well, from Soviet times,
nomenklatura types. His daddy was a big-name
doctor. Accordingly, this
spoiled little golden boy was sent abroad.
He came back and now has also landed
an administrative post. So, in other words,
a hereditary, uh, Soviet-style
nomenklatura figure, very brazen and very
pushy and also catastrophically, of course,
stupid, uh, and insolent.
So, the reason I
paid attention to his statement is simply that
because, well, fine, you can
be whatever kind of person you are, but you are supposedly
still a doctor, right? And the chief physician
of a major Moscow hospital. If you are
the chief physician, can you really reason in
such
categories, the way, I don't know,
not even a Christian but a pagan would, like,
yes, we all die. Everything that happens to us
is, you know, written in the
book of fate. And whatever measure is allotted to us,
that is what will happen to us. I mean,
whether you get treated or not, do something or don't,
try or don't try, you'll die anyway.
And it seems, honestly,
speaking, insane, but this is what is being said to us by
the official spokesperson on the topic of coronavirus.
49 seconds
Dr. Myasnikov and the book of fate.
You have your own life,
and it has been ordained by the Lord God. And you will die
when it is written in your book
of fate. You cannot do it either earlier
or later. It says there: "Don't
fuss, it will be so anyway." And
there is no point in being afraid of fear. What are you
afraid of? Dying. Remember, I read to you
about dying, but there in unknown forests there wanders
a husband/man, he waits and does not forgive. Before
your time, you will not die anyway. Therefore
live the life that has been allotted to you,
and don't listen to anyone. The only thing
you can do yourself, aside from what
is written in life's book of fate, is
to ruin your own mood. That's all. So
don't ruin it. Smile. Smile.
We will all die. God willing. We will die
an easy death. If not,
then we will atone.
Well, it really makes you want to say the classic
phrase: Excuse me, are you definitely a doctor? And
I'm curious—at the admissions desk in the hospital
headed by Dr. Myasnikov,
is that how it works? A person arrives
by ambulance, someone looks at him
with the same philosophical
mindset and says: "Hmm, it looks like in
your book of fate it is written that you
should be taken to the morgue." Or: "As for you,
it seems to me you might be worth treating."
Well, generally speaking, basically, whatever
is written there is written there. Or
let them just lie there in the ambulances. And this guy
didn't just, you know, say something stupid, he
is actually, uh, pushing this main line,
that, well, why are you even worrying about
this coronavirus, running around,
shouting on the internet, getting outraged.
Well, everyone who is meant to die will die.
12 seconds.
Just live. The infection will take its toll anyway.
It will take its toll. We will all
get sick sooner or later anyway.
Whoever is meant to die? They'll die. That's how they
all, all die.
I am seriously suggesting that this be
written, say, on the hospital in
Kommunarka (the Moscow infectious-disease hospital) or, really, on every
Russian hospital right at the entrance, the way
slogans were written at concentration camps,
like "work makes you free." So let them
write: everyone who is meant
to die will die, so that a person simply
has no inflated
expectations of Russian medicine, of
doctors. So it would be clear right away: everyone
who is meant to die will die. But really,
this man, with his, well, some kind of
this sort of
cheap attempt at philosophizing—he is
the chief physician, he is the main man on
coronavirus. What on earth are you talking about? The head of Moscow healthcare
should be telling him that,
and so should other
officials. But no, he just
keeps saying things, just, well, just babbling on
and on. That's why he has actually become
such a huge sensation right now, uh, such a
mega-celebrity. And I can just see how
uh, all the top-tier
suppliers of nonsense, the ones
the internet loves, and Twitter especially,
are just smoking nervously on the sidelines
across the country, because Dr. Myasnikov, he
is on fire, and his little videos with his
statements are just spreading
everywhere. And in fact he is also some kind of
astonishing liar who
has, well, this talent for convincingly
spouting ultra-mega nonsense. Let's listen to
how he explains how things work
an American hospital, because
an American hospital is a branch of Hell.
You know, they shoot there in
the wards, they shoot in the emergency room, there
it happens all the time. You walk into
an American hospital, and, uh, there’s just
someone shooting, or someone has
like, a knife in their heart, I mean, well,
the hospital there is Sklif (the Sklifosovsky Emergency Medicine Institute in Moscow). Come to Sklif,
they probably regularly bring in
people with knives in their hearts there too, but in
an American hospital, in any one of them, this
just happens constantly, because
Dr. Myasnikov saw it with his own
eyes. 1 minute 11 seconds.
In New York, there are several large
hospital monsters that are
overcrowded. Really, it’s hell. There
they shoot right in the ward, they shoot in
the emergency room. I’m a personal witness. There
is a situation where you’re on duty, sitting there,
a gunshot, the door opens. A woman runs in,
holding her stomach, and collapses in front of you. You
look at her. But why? This one
shot me. I personally
had that happen. It happened to me personally. I
talked about it with my doctor, she’s from
Armenia, a man comes running in, you’re like
stunned, and another one comes after him and
shoots at him. And we’re standing right in the line of fire
like this. This is a hospital. This is so it’s clear
what an American
hospital is, where every night, if I see
it filling up with police officers, then I
understand that a police officer has been shot,
because they’re bringing in a colleague.
it starts, where all the time these patients
are handcuffed by one arm to— It’s a branch of hell.
It really is a branch of hell. When
they bring in a person, you push your way toward him through the nurses
through the crowd,
a big, healthy guy with his throat completely slit from ear
to ear. You look, still
shocked. And the nurse tells you: "You’re not
looking in the right place." You lower your eyes, and
his heart is sticking out, the knife handle goes
like this: thump-thump."
72,000 people are watching us live
on air. I hope you understood why all
this was being said: that it’s, uh, horrible,
horrible. If you ever have the chance
to choose between ending up in
an American hospital and the clinic of
Dr. Myasnikov, then of course go only
there, because there everything will be
wonderful. Well, of course, everything is written, basically,
in your book of fate, but nevertheless
this is, actually, jokes aside,
an important function: to keep lying about
how terrible everything is there, because, well, we
are simply outraged by what’s happening. We
say: "My God, we’re a fairly
rich country, why is there nothing?"
Why is everything falling apart? Why are ventilators
catching fire?" And to that, Malysheva replies.
They say: "What, do you think that over there
the salaries are high?" As I showed in
the last program, in the one before that
program, when there was that segment with Malysheva.
There, yes, it comes out to 40,000 if
you convert it into rubles as take-home pay. The same
thing Myasnikov says: "What, do you
think it’s good there? Sure, our
ventilators catch fire, and this many burned,
six people died. But on the other hand, in
an American hospital in New York
they shoot there too. You just walk in, and
bullets are whistling over your head. And
most people just say that
this idiot is talking nonsense. But some people do believe it.
Some people do believe it. And that’s exactly what it’s designed for,
so that those who believe it will go
to the polls in the end and vote. It’s this
small part of the population that
understands nothing, that is ready
to believe people like Myasnikov, that will once again
determine the future of our country, because
it will vote for its vile, disgusting
party, United Russia, Solovyov’s fist. And
you’ve seen, of course, that cool video of
Vladimir Solovyov, who
demonstrates his super punch that
would knock absolutely anyone down. And apparently
that’s where Solovyov’s fist comes from. Alexei asks me:
Alexei. Rosneft’s lawsuit against RBC for 43 billion
rubles (about 43 billion RUB). Is this a challenge to the Russian media, or what
are they trying to achieve with it? Well, it’s obvious
what they’re trying to achieve. The company
Rosneft, with Sechin personally, uh, through his
press drunk—remember, there was that
Leontyev, uh, journalist, always this kind of
half-drunk guy who kept spouting all kinds of
nonsense. Uh, he was probably most
famous for the fact that on air
—not live, on his
first program on Channel One
he was showing satellite images, supposedly,
of fighter jets that shot down the Malaysian
Boeing. All of this seemed, well, of course,
all of it seemed like lies—what kind of
satellite images of planes in flight? But
nevertheless, he showed them
and convincingly claimed that it was true.
And now he works for the company
Rosneft. Sechin and his people have this strategy,
without question: to crush and bankrupt
everyone who writes something
bad about them. But journalists are frightened that
a lawsuit for 43 billion rubles is possible. Even if
it gets reduced forty-threefold, that
would mean that RBC would cease
to exist. And RBC is already a fairly
censored media outlet. Well, the same goes—also
they act this way toward Vedomosti as well,
toward everyone. So by now, in fact,
everyone has gotten the message and nobody writes anything,
because he won’t just simply
bankrupt you like that—he’ll take your publication away afterward.
for themselves. Ah, and since people are asking me about the petition,
I'll say a few words about it. Uh, Viktor
asks: "Alexei, why are they now
considering holding a
parade in June? If the date marking the end of
World War II, and therefore the parade as well,
was moved to September 3. Guys,
don't look for logic in this. There is absolutely no
logic here. It's just that in Putin's head, and in the heads of the people
who work with him, there is
a certain construct. And they genuinely believe that
when they hold a parade and once again
spend some absurd amount of money on it
in rubles, everyone will get so inspired that they'll go
and vote for Putin's constitution.
So, uh, they'll come up with some date. I
think that, most likely, it will
happen on June 24, or maybe September
3. Or it'll be some other date, I don't
know, August 6, 7, or 28. They'll also
come up with some kind of heroic
date, but in any case we'll once again see
this hysteria. "A parade, we must
hold a parade." Why? There will still
be a parade next May 9 (Victory Day) anyway,
so why can't they hold the parade next
year? They can't, because
they believe that when you see a parade on
television, you get up, go to the
polling station, and vote for
Putin. Well, presumably this is backed up by
some kind of sociological research
or something else, because, well, in
principle, there will probably be an Immortal Regiment march
that day, and they'll start running around and
shouting: "On the day of the Immortal Regiment
let's stop talking about anything
else. Let's speak only about the most, most
sacred things, about the fallen,
blah blah blah blah blah." In other words,
this is simply an attempt to appropriate
the victory, to appropriate all those
heroic sacrifices of the Russian and Soviet
people, and by using all of that,
that truly sacred thing, to resolve
the issue of getting people to vote for Putin,
when, generally speaking, hardly anyone
really wants to vote at all.
I was just telling you
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it looks like we're live again. I haven't
told you this, but over the last few
shows we've really been in a kind of battle
for the broadcast. It's pretty funny, because
they've started cutting off my home internet. And it's
very funny. We ask
the provider: "By the way, how many people
dropped off? Please show me
how many are watching." So,
it looked like about 75,000 people were watching when, uh,
everything cut out. They'll tell me the new
number in a moment. But in any
case, the point is this:
the provider started saying, "You know,
there seem to be some problems with your panel or
something somewhere." These
"problems" start exactly at 8:00 p.m. Here,
this time they started a little later, but
to be honest, we had originally
planned a backup setup, because
we understood that, uh, of course the authorities
would try to shut us down. The fairly
obvious solution is simply to cut off
my home internet and take my
show off the air, each episode of which
now, thanks so much to you, is watched by
more than a million viewers. It really
irritates the Kremlin, Putin, and everyone
else. So they were cutting off my home
internet. We had a clever backup
scheme. Today, half an hour before the
show, they sent me photos. I won't
go into the details of how we set it
up. Well, actually, I could
tell you. In short, we installed a
transmitting antenna there, and somewhere else they
found it and cut it out. They simply stole
the transmitter, cut all the
wires clean off, ripped everything out, and
half a day later, half an hour before the broadcast, we were left
without internet. But it seems we managed
to restore it using yet another backup
scheme. I hope our
broadcast won't crash again before the end, and that I'll still
be able to finish the stream. Uh, does this
annoy me? Absolutely, it annoys me a lot,
but they really are just blatantly
cutting off my home internet with complete impunity.
My provider is Rostelecom, by the way,
Rostelecom. As far as I can tell, they just
go ahead and individually cut off
my internet, Alexei Navalny's, in my apartment,
they shut off the internet, they steal
the transmitter. In other words, they're simply
engaging in this kind of, uh, petty
criminality. Though of course, at the same time,
I honestly feel a slight sense of
self-satisfaction and gratification from the fact
that our show irritates them
so much. So once again, thank you very
much for watching it, for asking me
questions, and for sharing this
link. So they switched it off. But it
didn't work. Last time they tried
to shut us down, and it didn't work. Nor the time before that.
So for the last three times, we've really had
an ongoing
competition over who can knock out whom
using technical means.
Though maybe I'm bragging too soon,
maybe they'll do something now. They're
perfectly capable of, I don't know, switching off all the cell
towers around the house
in order to
take my stream down. Anyway, before I got
cut off, I was saying that you should definitely
watch Volkov's video,
and subscribe to his channel, because he
explains very clearly what is happening
with mortality right now. And I’ll repeat that
what I said last time—this
lie about how in Russia
very few people were dying—will be the main thing
they will keep saying ahead of
the constitutional vote. Every time
someone even starts to say, “You
failed at everything, your Putin failed at everything
in a crisis situation,” they will
reply: “Failed? What? How dare you
even say that? You know, this is
like desecrating the Immortal Regiment
(the annual Russian march commemorating WWII veterans) and saying that Putin failed at everything.
After all, mortality in Russia is 10
times lower than in all the other countries.”
They will lie about this. And that is why
let’s watch a minute and a half of Volkov’s video, but
please go and watch the whole thing.
Russia’s official coronavirus statistics
are lying. It is as obvious as
two times two is four. The state’s lies
are bad and criminal in themselves,
but in our case they also
lead to tragic consequences.
The official charts published by
many Russian regions have an
artificial rather than natural pattern.
In real life, under no circumstances
can a real chart of detected cases under
genuine and conscientious testing
look the way it does in
Krasnodar Krai, or the way it does in
Lipetsk Oblast, or in Kursk, or
in Kabardino-Balkaria,
or in Moscow Oblast. All these
figures are simply made up. A real
chart looks like a hedgehog, with
spikes sticking out in different
directions. Why? Because in
the real world, the detection of many
cases is affected by a large number of
random factors pulling in different directions.
The available open data not only
collectively paint a vivid, unmistakable picture
of the total falsehood of Russian medical
statistics, but also make it possible to
estimate, more or less accurately, the true scale
of the disaster that has struck Russia. We are talking
about roughly 20,000 deaths, but
in about six out of seven cases, the
deceased are listed as having died from other causes.
The main problem is that
distorted, falsified data
are being used as the basis for long-term conclusions and
decisions. If the authorities do not
immediately revise their
approach to the numbers and to the management decisions
made on their basis, there will be
even more victims. Tens of thousands of lives
will be on Putin’s conscience.
Leonid Volkov’s channel. The link will be below.
Subscribe and watch the video. Roman
Artyukhov asks: “Alexei,
switch to another provider.” Well,
I will. But only if we’re talking about
ordinary home internet in an apartment.
First, I have a limited choice of
providers. Second, obviously,
any provider will disconnect me,
because every provider is completely
dependent on the FSB (Russia’s security service) and, more broadly, on this
law-enforcement system. And in that
sense, no new provider will
help me. But still, still,
I’m on the air. You’re watching me.
So apparently there is still some technical
ability for us to keep broadcasting.
69,000 people are watching me live
—the numbers are recovering. I hope we
get back to where we were. So,
I see a lot, a lot of questions.
Kantslerka Gorchakova: The authorities jail people
for emotional social media posts.
Meanwhile, Poznyakov is engaged in inciting
hatred, propaganda, fascism,
harassment, and violence. Will anything
at all be done against him? Uh, well,
please comment on the situation with Poznyakov.”
Katabulka Klubnichnaya asks. I have
a lot of questions about this. And I can’t
say that I know the situation in detail,
but as far as I understand, there is this guy
named Poznyakov, he has a public page on
VKontakte, and I think he also
heads this strange organization
called Male State.
Uh, mainly it is engaged in,
well, I used to think it was engaged in
trolling feminists, but in fact
what they are doing, as far as I
understand, has by now turned into outright
cybercrime,
harassing people online. In
particular, their latest stunt, if you can
call it that, is that
some unfortunate woman who
worked as a teacher, uh, somewhere in
a school or university, apparently
a hundred years ago
appeared in some porn video, and they found
it, posted it everywhere, sent it to her
workplace, sent it to her children, sent it
to everyone. I mean,
first of all, that is everyone’s private business,
second, it is a private matter for each person’s family,
third, nobody knows
what circumstances she had in life
that may have forced her into it. In any
case, this is none of
Poznyakov’s business, none of
Male State’s business, and most importantly,
I believe this is a very real
crime. I mean, you cannot
do this, and it should be—and it is
illegal. But there are a lot of
questions here about, basically, what can
be done about him. Again, I can’t say
that I know the situation in detail, as far as
I understand it, he simply lives somewhere in
another country. And in that sense, well,
he is doing this because he believes he has
some kind of right to do it there,
some moral right, or he thinks this is
an expression of free speech. But in any
case, what can I say? It is a rather
disgusting act. And from my point
of view, this is unquestionably a crime. And
what kind of pleasure, really, can a person
possibly get from simply attacking
this unfortunate woman and trying
to destroy her life now?
to make her child's life much harder.
They are practically sending these photos
to the children in his class. I mean, this is
just, frankly, the work of some
perverts doing this kind of crap. And
I am ashamed that they are engaged in
this. And, well, unquestionably, this is,
without a doubt, a crime.
Of course, legally speaking, right now,
as far as I understand, there is nothing
that can be done to him because he is
abroad. But, well, then, simply,
maybe at the very least, we should not
help him spread
this information, because after all
he is counting on publicity. Although, on the other
hand, of course, these things need to be
condemned, and the people who condemn them are doing the right thing. So, I have
a lot of questions about the petition, but I will say more about it later.
Right now Sergio Pogano
is asking me:
"Alexei, the petition
has collected 100,000 signatures. Does it still make sense
to keep collecting signatures, including
on Change.org and VKontakte? Of course, yes.
Well, first of all, it is not difficult. Second,
continuing to collect signatures is a kind of
political act that shows
that we continue
to demand cash compensation
for people and direct aid for businesses,
because, well, excuse me, I am still
broadcasting this livestream from home, not from
the office, because I am forbidden to leave
my home. And many of you are forbidden
to leave your homes, while you are still buying masks
with your own money, and
you are required to buy them with your own money, and
so on and so forth. Tens of millions of people are still
sitting without
any income, so we have done this. Once
again, thank you all very much. We collected these
100,000 despite the fact that they
tried very hard to obstruct us; we collected hundreds
of thousands, and there are already several million
signatures on other platforms. We need
to keep doing this, and most importantly,
to keep talking about it, because
many people are getting the impression:
"So, like, isn't the coronavirus
almost over already?"
No, unfortunately not. And it will still be with
us for several more months. And everyone's incomes
will fall. And in fact, direct
cash compensation is absolutely relevant
and even more urgent now. And our demand remains
to make payments for April,
to make payments for May and June, to all people,
who have been affected, absolutely everyone. And
to pay children 10,000 rubles each (about $110). To everyone,
not just
those who are receiving payments now, but
specifically from age three to sixteen. Payments should be made
to absolutely everyone. We continue to uphold
this demand. 76,000 people are watching us
live, which means more
than before the stream cut out. Hooray! Thank you very much for
joining us.
What should we call them in the Kremlin?
Kremlin crooks, or I don't know,
Kremlin riffraff. They cut us off, but we still
came back on. We rose from the ashes.
Let's talk about Vladimir Vladimirovich
Promisekin.
I gave
an interview to Radio Svoboda (Radio Liberty). Sergei
Medvedev is a great guy. He is
one of the professors, I think, at the Higher
School of Economics. And he asked me
a question there: "So, Alexei,
right now everyone is sitting at home, and we can see
that, of course, protest activity in
the country has declined, so what is
the opposition going to do? It's all so difficult, blah blah blah,
there are no protests."
That is absolutely, 100 percent not true." Well, I answered
that question somewhat incoherently,
and then I thought: "Well, of course,
we are all wise after the fact." And then I realized
that in fact, right now, in May 2020,
we are witnessing one of the highest
levels of protest activity,
and not just online, you know,
not just online where everyone furiously likes
opposition posts, but actually
practical activity, including street
activity. One of the highest
levels. Right now we are truly
witnessing an unprecedented confrontation
between the authorities and 3.5 million people,
at a minimum, including their family members, who
are Russian medical workers. And this
confrontation is also, well,
spilling out into the streets, because they
gather near their hospitals and
actually record public appeals. This is
a mass phenomenon. Every one of you has seen
such appeals: "My God, they are everywhere,
Instagram is full of them." That is, people
are gathering and, with varying degrees of
aggressiveness, they are demanding something. The
government has not seen anything like this. In all
the time I can remember, maybe in the 1990s
the miners did something similar, but in all these 20
In all the years of Putin's rule, he has never
faced such a massive reaction
from specific groups all across the country.
And that is very important. I want to
talk about it, because, well, Putin
makes promises and lies. He makes promises and lies. That's what
his entire rule is built on. He just
keeps promising. For 20 years he has been promising
all sorts of things. But now he has entered
a situation where there is this kind of
absolute specificity. He is not promising
something vague like building you a market
economy or getting rid of dependence on raw-material
exports, or fixing this or that, or
creating 25 million jobs. By that year, for
example, he clearly promised there would be 25
million high-tech jobs. But
who exactly did he promise that to? To you personally,
the viewer of this program, to the
76,000 people watching? No. I mean,
he just promised it in general, and then didn't
deliver. And everything else he promised, he also didn't
deliver. And yes, we get outraged, but somehow
there are no people who were personally
deceived, as if something was directly stolen from them. And
now this situation has developed because
with the coronavirus, everyone is shocked that
a huge number of doctors are falling ill,
a huge number of doctors are dying,
and doctors are simply, well, starting to
rear up in protest. Go and read,
if you haven't already, a great piece by
Mediazona (an independent Russian media outlet).
They analyzed all the doctors' deaths. Did you
know that doctors themselves keep this kind of
well, just a Google spreadsheet online,
and they enter the names of their
deceased colleagues there. And, well, everyone
knows that doctors themselves maintain it, so
there is no fraud there. But even so,
it always gives all those Kremlin
propagandists a reason to say, "Oh, that's just nonsense,
some list on the internet."
Anyone can make one, it's just a Google
document. I could create one tomorrow, and
it would have 1,000 names on it. Mediazona
went ahead and analyzed that entire
list in full. And, well, basically,
the numbers are catastrophic. They, they
removed some people from that
list because there were, for example,
doctors who had died, but their deaths were obviously
not related to coronavirus in any way. In the
end, they kept only those who died
directly from coronavirus. And
it turned out that 7% of those who died in Russia were
doctors, nurses, and other medical workers.
That is an enormous number, and it is simply
16 times higher than in those
countries that have a number of cases
comparable to ours. Where the epidemic has simply
reached a similar scale,
it is 16 times higher. This is just some kind of
catastrophe. And at the time the article was published,
in Russia, the total number of medical workers infected with coronavirus was
9,500. 9,500. So, basically,
right now the medical profession is very
dangerous. Being a doctor now is more dangerous than
being a police officer. I won't even say
it's more dangerous than being a
member of the National Guard (Rosgvardiya), because a Rosgvardiya officer
faces no danger at all. I don't know,
a miner, or anyone else.
A medical worker in Russia is now in the most dangerous
profession. And they are not being paid. And when
before, they were being paid 17,000
or 18,000 rubles a month,
well, they weren't paid, they weren't paid. No one is
paid properly in Russia, but here they pay 17,000
or maybe 25,000, or 40,000, and say:
"What a great salary you have, but you
are working at risk to your life." And that changed everything.
And here Putin is already forced
to respond. And when I said 3.5 million
people, in Russia 3.5 million people are
doctors, mid-level medical staff—
nurses, junior medical staff,
paramedics, plus drivers, and so on.
So that is 3.5 million people. Plus their family
members—they feel that, basically,
this has spread across the whole country, people are buzzing,
they are going to announce strikes. What does
Putin do? He comes out and starts making promises.
Promise number one, at 1 minute 19 seconds.
We have also provided additional
payments to doctors, nurses, and medical
personnel for special working conditions and
increased workloads.
More than 10 billion rubles from the federal budget have been allocated
for these purposes and will
be sent to the regions in the near future.
People must receive these payments
on time, without delays.
In addition, I consider it necessary
to implement one more measure, namely, for 3
months starting in April, to establish
a special federal payment for
specialists who directly
work with coronavirus patients and
risk their health every minute.
For doctors working directly with
patients infected with coronavirus,
this additional payment will amount to 80,000
rubles per month. For mid-level medical
staff, paramedics, and nurses, 50,000
rubles. For junior medical staff,
25,000 rubles per month.
As for ambulance doctors,
who also work with patients sick with
coronavirus, they will receive a payment of
50,000 rubles per month. Paramedics,
nurses, and ambulance crew and vehicle drivers will get
25,000 rubles.
81,000 people are watching us live.
And you saw it: an absolutely
traditional problem arises—
you need to do something, promise something,
lie. And then Putin comes out and says: "We
"we’ll pay everyone." Blah blah blah — he promised it,
made the promise, and left. But then his apparatus took over.
He knows those promises don’t have to be
kept. I mean, they never have been,
really. He promised something or other, and then
the wheeling and dealing begins. They
first issue a decree saying
that payments are supposed to go to everyone
who is in the risk zone. You see,
it’s underlined in red. Everyone who faces
the risk of infection. But after a while
they no longer feel like paying. That’s the,
you see, idiocy of our state:
there’s money — tons of it. And in principle, yes, they could
and should pay them all. But if this is
right now, in fact the riskiest
profession, if doctors are dying at a rate 16 times
higher than in developed countries, well,
then let’s pay them. Besides,
they weren’t promised a million rubles each, after all.
80,000 rubles to those working in
the red zone, 25,000 rubles to the driver:
"Come on, for God’s sake, that kind of money exists. It’s
not some astronomical sum, right? None of them is going to
become a millionaire, and nobody is going to
blow it all at a casino. Tomorrow they’ll go back to
being ambulance paramedics. No,
it’s not a huge amount — it can be paid. But
why pay, really? We never have
paid before. It’s always like the old man
promised something, and then they issue a new
decree saying that we pay,
but only to those who are directly
involved in treating patients with
COVID-19. And then the
wheeling and dealing begins,
so, an ambulance driver or
a paramedic — they spend all day transporting
patients. Obviously, half of those
patients have coronavirus, and he expects
to receive his 25,000 rubles afterward. But then he’s
told: "Well, you know, you transported
eight patients, and only one had a test
confirming coronavirus. And you transported him from
4:23 p.m.
17 seconds until 5:01
25 seconds? That’s the time we’ll pay you for".
So here is your
pay slip, and it says 45 rubles 27
kopecks." And naturally,
the internet was instantly flooded, because
a unique situation emerged:
it was simply
like, have you completely lost it? They had just
been promised, told: "You’re like people on the
front line, go on, we’ll pay all of you,
we’re counting on you." Everywhere people
put up badges: Thank you, doctors.
Margarita Simonyan launched a flash mob. Uh,
all sorts of things were said.
Of course they were promised awards, some kind of
badges, pennants, and everything else — but no money,
as usual, damn it. They just don’t pay,
that’s all. So medical workers started going out into the streets and
recording videos. And probably the most
telling example was the appeal
from medical workers in Armavir, because they didn’t
just say it — they said it in a, well,
creative way: "Well done." And I
therefore wrote a post on Instagram,
saying I applaud them. Really
well done. But on the other hand, it’s frustrating.
To force them to pay you your salary,
you apparently have to come up with some creative stunt,
I don’t know — soon you’ll probably have to dance
or sing or clap your hands
just to get someone’s attention. Let’s watch
the video from Armavir. Twenty seconds.
Let’s go.
Armavir ambulance service. We did not receive
the promised payments. Not the doctors, not the paramedics,
not the nurses, not the drivers — no one. Not
a single ruble, not a single kopeck.
And what can you even say against that? At this point
you can’t say something like, Navalny is spinning tales
with State Department money,
because this is the ambulance service in
Armavir. The ambulance service in Armavir drives
around the city of Armavir. And when they meet someone,
people ask them,
some grandmother asks: "How are you doing, kids?
" And they say: "Terribly,
grandma, that’s how we’re living. Because Putin isn’t
paying us our bonuses. So you,
grandma, should know that Putin is a liar and that
Putin is bad." And right away the situation
started to change. This was a mass
phenomenon, absolutely widespread. And then Putin
comes out and starts clarifying things.
He says, well, you know,
it turns out there was suddenly some
bureaucratic red tape. Thirty-one seconds.
Listen to me, listen carefully.
We agreed, and it was stated clearly and plainly
that this money must be paid
for work with patients suffering from
coronavirus infection, and not for
some hours, minutes, and so on. No,
they turned it into some kind of
bureaucratic mess. They started counting
something there, some hours. Did I tell them
to count hours or what?
No.
I hope, I hope that by
the end of today, if it hasn’t yet been done somewhere,
everything will be fully sorted out.
It’s just that
they immediately started turning the situation into the same
old classic: the good tsar, the bad
boyars (nobles). Your government wrote
that decree, didn’t it? Of course he knew.
Of course he knew what they had put in there,
because from the very beginning, on
television, they said: "We’ll pay everyone."
But among themselves they decided: "Well, this is just
like always. There’s a promise, but no implementation.
" How do you make it so that you
make a promise but don’t have to pay? By using little
write it out in words by hours and by
minutes. But the medics went out into the streets.
The medics started recording public appeals.
Let’s look at Irkutsk. Here’s the major city of
Irkutsk. They simply are not paying, that’s it. An appeal from
Irkutsk.
We, the ambulance service workers
of the city of Irkutsk, want to draw attention
to the fact that there is a constant failure to comply with
the directives of the President of the Russian
Federation, starting with the May decrees (a set of major presidential policy directives issued in May 2012).
The promised bonus payments of 25,000 and 50,000 rubles
as incentive compensation for special
working conditions during the COVID-19 pandemic
to all ambulance service workers
in the city of Irkutsk—to doctors,
paramedics, and drivers—as of 16/05
have not been paid.
So what can you even do with that? I mean,
you can lie as much as you want. But they’re out there
recording these messages—I could, in fact, show you many such videos here in the script.
There really are a lot of them. I just
don’t want to show them all. Although
honestly, I want to support every one of them,
yes. Because they post these videos on
Instagram. And all of Irkutsk, all of
Vladimir Region, all of Krasnodar
knows that, yes, they are not paying a damn thing. Even
to the medics now on the front line,
blah blah blah, ‘thank you doctors,’ but they’re not paying
a kopeck. They held back 25,000 rubles there,
held back 80,000 rubles from those going into this
red zone. That is, people who are literally
in this risk zone,
a zone of mortal risk. They withheld it and didn’t pay. And
they still are not paying. And this, of course, is
the huge confrontation that
is happening right now. What’s interesting is that
how
they seem afraid to toy with this even in those very
moments when something slips out like
‘what are they demanding from us there,’
and how quickly they backpedal.
A telling story happened in Perm.
There, the health minister
is holding a meeting. And at this
meeting, naturally, someone from the ambulance service
says, “You haven’t paid us.” And
the head doctor of that ambulance service is sitting there and
mocks him. Well, the head doctor’s salary
is huge. And he imitates him—or rather, not
exactly imitates, but, you know,
he makes these gestures like
‘look at our fighters over there, demanding
something,’ smirking. Let’s watch this
little clip—they’ve already deleted
it. But every move was recorded. 26
seconds.
You handled it incorrectly. Every
employee, as in Vladimir, should
receive 25,000 rubles each. That’s for doctors, and
mid-level medical staff
must unconditionally receive their
11,000, and then there will be no
discord.
And as I understand it, our trade union
is doing absolutely nothing. And things will move
off dead center only when we
turn to other unions.
Well, you see, he put on a bit of an act,
but all the medics were watching that livestream.
And the comments
were exactly what you’d expect, like, ‘Are you
out of your mind? You’re not paying people
their money, and when they get upset, you
mock them as if this were some kind of game.’ Well,
for him, those 25,000 rubles are genuinely
very important. It’s his tiny,
microscopic payment for the deadly, without
exaggeration, risk he faces
every day.
He recorded an apology, because they immediately
understood that you cannot play games with things like this.
Here are 30 seconds of how this
head doctor apologized for those
gestures of his.
Quite often, decisions have to be made
in emergency mode. And unfortunately, I,
like everyone else, am not immune to mistakes,
or emotional reactions to what is happening.
If my behavior yesterday offended anyone,
I ask your forgiveness.
for my rather sharp reaction
I was emotional.
Thank you. Wishing you good health.
Of course, the authorities want to suppress all of this.
And suppress it in their usual way.
And of course, Krasnodar immediately
stepped in the way it usually does. So, at the
Abinsk Central District Hospital
people recorded a similar video appeal about
the fact that they had not received the payments. Here are
21 seconds. Let’s watch what
the doctors said.
We, the ambulance workers of Abinsky
District in Krasnodar Krai, state that
the payments promised by our president
had not been transferred to us as of May 18, 2020.
The management of Abinsk Central District Hospital is trying to
convince us that no payments
are due to us.
We
are being paid nothing.
What do the local authorities do? What does
the local police do? They bring these doctors
a warning about the inadmissibility of
extremist activity by medical workers
who complained about the lack of
payments. So people are literally saying:
“We are not being paid the Putin-promised,
repeatedly promised bonuses.” And they
say: “Yes, they are being paid. In that case, we are warning you
not to engage in
extremist activity.” And
at the same time, the game began. They started
paying those who were protesting,
they paid them.
And at the same time, they are also trying to, well,
who can do more to please the federal authorities,
at the same time, they are trying both to
intimidate them and, at the same time, pay them,
because, well, the situation really is
for Putin, for this entire government,
explosive. I’ve been getting a lot of, uh,
messages from medical workers asking, basically, what should we do?
Please explain what needs to be done.
The main question is that people genuinely do not
understand whether they are entitled to these bonuses or not
because there are two government resolutions
and they say that payments must be made
to those who directly
interact with coronavirus patients. There is
another government resolution, and fewer people
read it, but that is exactly the one that needs
to be read, because it states very clearly, let me
show it again, please, it says
underlined in red, that payments are due
to everyone who falls into the risk group
for infection.
So, dear medical workers, dear
relatives of medical workers and friends of medical workers,
who can forward this video,
to medical staff, doctors,
uh,
ambulance drivers, or simply
hospital employees. You know that
there are hospital employees such as,
for example, someone working at reception—
a woman at the front desk who is not formally a medical worker
by status. I mean, what does she do at
reception? She sits there, and people come up to her
and say, "Dear, how do I
get an appointment with such-and-such doctor?" She
fills out their file for them, and then
the next person comes in and coughs on her.
Then, of course,
all the people who are currently working in
medical institutions and who
interact with people share
this risk and danger. Therefore,
the position is very clear: payments should be made
to everyone. No—if you are asking yourself
the question, "Should I be paid?" the answer is:
yes, you should be paid. What should you
do? First of all, pay attention to
the medical union’s resources created specifically for you.
A brief digression: how incredibly
happy I am that I turned out to be right. And all of us
turned out to be right when, 2 months ago,
we were running around shouting, "We will
support the medical union."
We raised money here for protective
equipment, we were outraged, and we said that
infected doctors would become sources
of infection for everyone. How right we were.
We were right in absolutely every word. We,
there was the medical union. Now everyone
has seen that we were absolutely right.
And so, once again, thank you to everyone who
supported the Doctors’ Alliance. They launched
a project, a special map. So
step number one: what should
every medical worker and every hospital employee
do? Go there, and there is
a special map of these violations.
Select your issue and report what is
happening to you. Let’s take a look. Uh,
here is one minute from one of the appeals in the
video instructions for this website, which
was created by the Doctors’ Alliance.
A new feature has appeared on the medical inspection website:
an interactive map. On it, we
will mark problems, both new and
resolved. Now everyone, from an ordinary
citizen onward,
You see, I was bragging to you that we
would beat the Kremlin and be able to stream without
interruptions, but that’s not
working out. We’re back on the air again, but
every time it takes
some effort, because they are
doing all sorts of cunning
things. To be honest, I don’t understand it all that well.
We have a technical
team—many thanks to them—that is
dealing with this right now. But here I am,
back, and probably some number of people
dropped off the stream again.
Anyway, back to what I was saying. It is very important
to
understand a few things. First, go
to the union’s map and indicate
your problem. Second,
attention: the most important thing you need to
do. If you are a doctor, a medical worker, and so
on, and you are not being paid these bonuses, you
must sit down and write a statement by
hand saying: I, so-and-so, work
there and face a risk of infection,
a direct risk, which I want to notify you about,
and I want to receive the bonus payment,
and submit this to the chief physician. And you can
also send it to the prosecutor’s office, because
the thing is, these people keep asking me,
sweetly, "How do
we know? It’s Putin’s fault, not the officials’—
they are refusing to carry out his orders." Well,
of course, you see, Putin bangs
his fist on the table, and the officials
refuse to carry out orders.
The officials were not given the money; the officials
were instructed to pay as little as possible,
so they are twisting themselves into knots. Abuse number two:
abuse number one is calculating it by
the minute. And abuse number two is that
in every specific case,
the chief physician issues a local order and
writes: "This person has a risk of infection, but
this one does not." Therefore, you
must submit a statement and write that
I believe that I am at risk of infection
and I demand to be paid. Until you do that,
they will not include you anywhere
on their own. And most importantly, just do not
stay silent. And right now, we have, I don’t know,
how many of us are left before we
...dropped off; 84,000 people watched it through live.
broadcast. Ah, well, it has started. And now,
how many? Please show me.
Still, yes, 80—more than eighty
thousand are still watching us. We started with
30,000. At the beginning of the broadcast I showed
a very important document. Please show
it again, if you can find it for me right now,
uh, the letter from the minister of the Moscow
Region, which he sent and in which he
explains in what cases it is not allowed
to build, specifically, near
certain homes, sand quarries and so on
and so forth. Can you show me that letter?
What, did we cut out again?
I can’t tell whether I’m live or not.
Ah yes, here’s the letter. Look, here
they write that if people who
have high social status and
wealth are involved, they must not be inconvenienced. And
the second page of this letter says that
sand quarries can be built where there is
a low level of protest activity.
So doctors and everyone else: if you have
a low level of protest
activity, you’ll get nothing. Meanwhile,
everyone who protests and records these
videos will get paid, I have no doubt, because
they’re afraid you’ll disrupt the vote,
that you really will simply
tank United Russia’s ratings in every
specific area. Still, a protesting hospital
really is in some
village, town, and so on. It can
lower the level of
voting for United Russia or for
President Putin by several percentage points. They are terribly
afraid of that. So if you protest,
they’ll pay. If you don’t protest,
they won’t. That’s how the system works, because
they do not want to pay and do not consider it
necessary to pay. And for them, really, it is
some kind of critical, almost
hostile act. To pay wages
to anyone in Russia is like, you know,
paying tribute to the enemy. Because the population—
really, any people who demand
something—are seen as collective enemies
who must be fought, and they do fight them.
And when you put something out, you—
you start fighting them, and they
are afraid of open battles and begin to
pay you. My personal political
advice is this: if they absolutely won’t
pay, if they don’t want to pay you, make
a video appeal. Of course, it’s better if you make it
interesting, like that Armavir
hospital did. But, I repeat, this is a
humiliating kind of advice in some sense,
basically: sing and dance for your own
money. Better, perhaps,
you know what to do? Just
record an appeal saying that
if we are not paid, then on the gates,
on the doors of our hospital, we will hang a
notice saying that our
hospital opposes the United Russia party
and opposes extending the powers of
Putin. And to every person who
comes to us, the staff of our
hospital will say: "Do not vote
for United Russia, vote against it, and do not
vote for extending the powers of
Putin." Then vehicles with flashing lights
will come racing to you, loaded
with money, and they will pay your wages.
Because that is what they fear most of all.
They are afraid that you will destroy their
ratings, and they are ready to—there’s a sea of money
in the budget, a sea of it. But they will give it only to those
who fight for it. So, uh, Oleg, why
is there this difference in payments between a doctor, a driver,
and an orderly, if they all work in the same risk zone?
Is that fair? Well, actually,
it is fair, because there are
people who are in the red zone,
dealing directly with coronavirus patients, and there are
people who simply face a somewhat lower
level of risk. In principle, I agree
that everyone should be paid more overall.
Without question, everyone should be paid more,
not to mention that, well,
come on, seriously, the maximum
bonus, the maximum extra payment for people
at the highest risk is 80,000 rubles (about US$1,000). 1,000
dollars. Yes, that is simply ridiculous. But
to be fair, there should be
some kind of scale. People simply need to
be paid. I believe that absolutely at least
some money should be paid to absolutely
everyone. Right.
Hit Surf asks: "Why was it necessary at all
to funnel these payments through governors,
to push this money to medical workers through the regions, through
the bureaucracy? There’s a register of medical workers, so why
can’t payments be made directly to them?"
Excellent question. In fact, it can’t be done,
because there is no such register of medical workers,
because they kept building, building, building
this system. And it turned out that there is no
such direct button, you know. You
think there’s a button that Mishustin (Russia’s prime minister)
presses and a doctor’s salary is credited to
their bank card? No, absolutely not. Because
for a long time they deliberately built such a
differen-
differentiated system under which
the chief physician and the governor can pay
less. Why did I run this campaign?
So that everyone—teachers, doctors, everyone
who is entitled to it—would be paid in accordance with
the May decrees. But no one was being paid,
because, well, exactly the same kind of
fiddling is going on: base rate, salary, bonus,
allowance. This one works 1.5
positions, that one six. And this one was brought in
full-time on a half-time basis. They created
a system under which the chief physician,
The minister can rig things. They set it up so
they could pay less. And now, basically,
this whole top-down system,
for doctors, teachers,
the military, the cops,
basically any state employee and any worker
at state-funded enterprises, is designed
in such a way that the chief
distributor of funds—the head doctor in this case—
can receive a lot of money, and he
really does receive fantastical sums.
Take that same Myasnikov I showed you
in the middle of the program—he,
I think, gave an interview today and said:
"I earn..." Well, literally he said,
"a hell of a lot" or "a whole damn lot." Something
like that. In Moscow, head doctors very
often make millions of rubles. There are
doctors who earn 500,000,
700,000, 200,000 rubles. But this system is built
so that if you want him to be paid
500,000, you pay him that and he
gets 500,000. If you want him
to get 17, he gets 17. And all of it
is perfectly legal. They created a system whose purpose
is to pay as little as possible,
because as much money as possible has to
remain with the federal center so it can
go to construction projects, corruption, and so
on and so forth. Because, well,
healthcare is expensive.
They do not want to put money into it, and
they cannot let it bypass the governors.
That is the whole point of this system.
So, what else are people asking me?
A video in which a police officer is choking
a man. Are we all just going to watch things like this
and tolerate it—is that enough?
Muva Mokh asks me. I am not going to
show you that video. I saw it myself
online; it was widely shared. Well,
it really is just police
lawlessness. As I have said many times on this
program, we have now
entered a zone where, with the latest
amendments, the law on the police has truly put us
into a state of genuine
police lawlessness. You can easily
find the video. In it, cops are simply choking
a man—just choking him—while around them
women are screaming, children are crying, everyone is yelling,
shouting that they are going to strangle him; blood is
coming from the man’s mouth. They keep choking him,
even though he is offering no resistance
at all. The era of the
police state has arrived. Do not
stay silent. We need to be outraged every day.
We need to vote against it. We need to persuade
everyone to vote. Speaking of voting,
someone asked me about it. Let me find that
question. Maybe it was removed. The person
asked: "Why boycott
the vote? Wouldn’t voting against it be
much more effective?" Guys,
the so-called vote on the
Constitution and its results will have absolutely
nothing to do with how you
actually vote. And there will be no effectiveness
there at all, because there is no
monitoring, there is nothing, no
procedure—there will just be a screen on
which the results will be announced to us. Therefore,
our approach to this vote
is this: we do not recognize it. I will not
take part in it. If you are being forced to go, and
it is clear that all state employees—
all doctors, all teachers, all
employees of municipal organizations—
that is, tens of millions of people—will be forced
to go there, then vote against it. In that case,
you should vote against it. But overall, it is about non-
recognition, because no matter how we
vote, the result there will be
whatever they say it is—they will say that 90%
voted to extend Putin’s powers.
Well, let’s move on to Dagestan (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus).
My mug has 05 written on it.
Why is this so important?
Because in Dagestan, exactly what
we were warned about is happening right now.
We were told that what makes coronavirus dangerous
is not that there would be people,
I don’t know, lying dead in the streets,
or that there would be millions dead. No, that is
not it. The particular danger of coronavirus is
that it overloads the healthcare
system, and indeed
hospitals will be packed with bodies, packed
with sick people, and nothing can be
done about it. The healthcare system will simply
break down. That is exactly what is now
happening in Dagestan. But the most
terrible thing is that here, well, in
Italy too, at one point, the healthcare
system broke down. But in Dagestan,
it seems the only thing it has in common with Italy is the beautiful
mountains; everything else is very different,
because all of this there is layered
on top of monstrous lies and
monstrous corruption. Because,
despite the fact that the situation in Dagestan
is extremely hard to hide, the peculiarity
of Dagestan is this: do you know your
second cousin? No. But in Dagestan,
everyone knows their second cousin. Do
you even have this concept in your
head: "my village"? No, you do not.
But there, many people have a particular
village, relatives, a huge number of
people. So everyone is connected, everyone knows
about everyone else. When your, I don’t
know, second cousin or some
god-knows-what nephew dies, that is the death
of a close relative. Everyone
finds out about it fairly quickly.
And Dagestan, despite the fact that
it has received enormous amounts of money in recent years,
had everything stolen there. The system there
the healthcare system is simply destroyed,
especially in villages, in small
settlements. I mean, there
is total collapse there. And right now in Dagestan
that very catastrophe is unfolding, and they
are lying outrageously. So, the minister
of health of Dagestan did a livestream
last week, because it was impossible
to hide the situation, and it had already started
to be discussed by literally the entire country
everyone is talking about it, because, well, a catastrophe
is happening. He starts the livestream, and in
that livestream, uh, he still keeps
saying that there are only something like
13,000 sick people, but only 3,000 of
them, uh, have coronavirus, and the rest
have pneumonia. Let's listen.
Well, the number of people who have fallen ill, due to, uh,
is more than 13,000.
13,000 sick people.
Overall, if you count, uh,
confirmed COVID infections and
community-acquired pneumonia, to be more precise,
that is to say,
697.
Confirmed
uh, COVID infection cases: 128.
Hospitals are packed with the sick and the dead. According to
official statistics, only 3,000
people are ill and only, uh, 36
people have died. That is the official
statistic. Everywhere they say: "We have
had 36 deaths." In that same livestream
meanwhile, the health minister
of Dagestan says that among doctors alone
40 people have died. By now they already have
at least 50 doctors dead. At that
moment, 40 doctors had died, but officially
they were saying that only 36 people had died in total. Let's look
at these 40 dead doctors.
How many doctors have died
as of today while on the front line?
Well,
as for our colleagues who
there are more than forty of them, I, I can say
Yes,
at the same time, one of Dagestan's particular features
is that everyone there loves
Instagram and uses it to spread this
information. And again, Instagram
is simply starting to overflow with
video testimony that
spills beyond the borders of the republic. They
are already being seen by everyone. And basically, uh, well,
now anyone can, uh, talk about
something. And in one of these livestreams, to that same
blogger named Ruslan Kurbanov,
uh, one of the nurses simply describes
live on air what is going on in the
hospital. And this account, well, completely
matches what people know, and
does not match at all what
the official authorities are saying. Let's see
what the situation is today in the hospitals of
Makhachkala.
Terrible.
There are very many infected people. My
acquaintances, my coworkers, all the ones who
work there, they say: "There are bodies in the
corridors, here and there, and no one is taking them away."
The military even went door to door, knocking,
trying to find the relatives of these bodies, because
I also couldn't find my dead for a whole day.
I only found them later; they had been lying there for a day
even though they had phones, they
called, I was outraged too, the documents
were lost, we can't find them. That's the kind of
circus going on there. The hospital staff can't
keep up. They live there, the medical workers,
that's clear. Many thanks to them. They
live there, they don't leave. But then again, you
understand—there are so many infected people, so many.
Well, excuse me, but if the ambulances
weren't properly equipped and kept going out like that, then wouldn't the number of infected
rise? I'm telling you honestly,
there is chaos here. This is not Makhachkala anymore.
There is no real leadership here. I
don't know, it's as if no one cares about
Makhachkala, as if nobody cares about anything. It feels
as though we have been left alone,
no one is helping us. I don't know whom
to turn to. I have already, in this
state, decided to come to you.
And this situation has, well, simply so far
exceeded
the usual level of chaos. In principle,
you could say there is chaos here
about almost any Russian region. But
there, that chaos has immediately risen
several levels higher. And Putin is forced
to hold a special meeting, because
several million people are watching this
unfold. It's the North Caucasus, very
densely populated. And every word
of lies keeps angering and angering people,
because anyone can go on
Instagram and watch a video like this
from the intensive care unit in
Khasavyurt. Let's watch.
Khasavyurt
intensive care unit.
[music]
You
[music]
can see for yourselves, I can't show everything,
because I think it would be
too shocking.
Just now,
just now, two people died here.
I'll say just one thing:
[music]
we've been abandoned here, abandoned.
Only Allah can help,
not our healthcare system.
Cursed be the one who brought this
to such a state.
No one is responsible for anything.
No one.
Nobody cares about anyone. I mean the
people and our officials.
Our officials are sitting in their ivory towers, completely
isolated from everything, because they have
a lot of money they've stolen.
Only the people suffer. In any case,
it is only the people who suffer.
And still, here we are now
discussing this, and the information there is simply
absolutely overwhelming. Everyone is talking about
20 people having died in this village, 10
people having died in that village, and in
some villages 500 people are infected,
600 people. The hospital is packed with corpses.
And their official statistics still say
36 people. I mean, it's just some kind of
mega-lie. TV Rain (an independent Russian media outlet) did an excellent
report. They went there and
spoke with Ziyudin Uvaysov. He is
the head of an NGO that simply monitors
the coronavirus situation. He is the one who
explains why everyone knows. Well, because
the population is very tightly connected. And simply
everyone in Dagestan knows how many people are sick
in their village. Let's take a look.
It's one minute and 15 seconds.
Standing next to me now is Ziyudin Uvaysov,
the head of the public organization
Monitor Patients. What is the situation overall?
Hello. In fact, the situation is,
you could say, terrible. There are very,
very many sick people. I think the health minister's figures
are close to the truth.
Most likely, in reality we actually have
somewhat more cases, and the number of deaths is probably
approaching a thousand after all
patients. All the hospitals are overcrowded.
I have to ask about the villages. As I
understand it, that is where the situation is most serious,
because some villages have already almost entirely
gone through coronavirus; people there
are dying, but there are no tests at all, and
they are being diagnosed with pneumonia. Could you
tell us about the main hotspots, the biggest
problems in Dagestan specifically from the point
of view of the villages?
As for the villages, in fact, people there
interact more closely. And because in the
initial stage the virus is not noticeable, they
were not afraid of infection. There are villages
where more than twenty people have died. These include
Gergebil, uh, Tlokh in Botlikhsky District,
Tebekmakhi in Akushinsky District,
where the number is approaching twenty, and Gubden,
and in Komsomolskoye, they said, there are also
more than twenty dead.
There are very, very many villages
where 5 to 10 people have died.
There. I mean, why lie like this? If
everyone knows. Twenty people died in a village.
Can you imagine what it means when in a village
20 people die in a month?
Everyone there is in an uproar; everyone knows it.
Why this lie? And of course,
the final nail in the coffin of this
lie was hammered in by Khabib. Probably the most
famous—well, definitely the most
famous person from Dagestan. Possibly the most
famous Russian. His level of fame
in the world is probably comparable to
Putin's. He recorded—I’ll show you a clip—
it’s about four or, I think,
five minutes long. A very heartfelt video on
Instagram. Well, he has his own
difficult situation, because his father, as I
understand it, is ill with coronavirus,
and was taken somewhere to Moscow. So
it’s a serious situation. And here he is
recording a message and describing the real
situation—just plainly, calmly—
and asking all his fellow Dagestanis
not to take part in the holiday celebrations. Right now, uh, not to
go to Friday prayers simply
because the virus is spreading, and this
is no joke. Let’s watch, uh, a minute of it.
I, Khabib, would like to make an appeal to
my fellow countrymen, to the people of Dagestan, in connection with
the recent events involving this virus, this
disease.
We are in a very difficult situation in
Dagestan, a very dire one.
Hospitals are overcrowded, many people
have fallen ill, and very many people have died.
It is a very difficult situation. I personally had
more than twenty people from among my
relatives, my close relatives, hospitalized.
I’m not talking about acquaintances; I’m talking about
more than 20 close relatives
who were in intensive care.
Many of them, many, are no longer
with us. Very many acquaintances have died, very
many parents of my close friends and acquaintances
have died.
He recorded a long video. There was also
an interesting exchange in the comments.
One user wrote to him saying
that, basically, “I’m disappointed that
you believe in coronavirus.” To which he
replied: “In my village, 500 people have fallen ill
with pneumonia, 11 have died, and
dozens are in hospitals. In the neighboring village, over the course of
one night, 14 people died. They couldn’t
bury them fast enough.” Can you imagine—that phrase really
was said: “They couldn’t bury them fast enough.” When
medical workers record video appeals like these,
like the one I showed you, from
other regions—and in Dagestan they really did
record them too, I think
it was the Khasavyurt hospital, with the
words: “There are very few of us left.”
Do you understand? It’s as if they are actually
standing on the front line. But in a sense
they are on the front line. But there are fewer
medical workers now, because they are dying,
because there aren’t enough of them for everyone,
because everything is full, everyone knows about
the dead in their village, their relatives, and so
on. And this lying continues. I
I’m deeply outraged by all of this and
by how utterly senseless it all is. Why are they
lying? What exactly are they lying for? There,
the most popular person in the republic comes out
and says, "We have a very grave
situation, a huge number of people have died."
Then an official says, "We have had 36
deaths." And everyone knows that’s a lie. But
why? I mean, it’s not Putin, not
United Russia, really, that is directly
to blame for this. Yes, they are guilty of
stealing all the money and destroying
the healthcare system. They are guilty of that. And,
apparently, in order to somehow
hide that guilt of theirs, uh, they
just lie. But the scale of the lying, the way they
look people straight in the eye. And again,
this is Dagestan, where this whole culture of
being a "real man," uh,
of manly behavior and masculine deeds,
all this talk of masculinity and
honesty and decency, is, uh, at least
in words, constantly elevated by officials
into some kind of absolute ideal. If you
say anything there, go apologize. You
have to apologize for this, you have to
apologize for everything. But who is going to
apologize for these lies? And how are they,
all of them, these petty officials, not ashamed
to come back to their very own village,
where 20 people have died? Or they’ll
come there in a month, after they
lied that there were only 36 deaths in the entire republic.
It’s astonishing, absolutely astonishing
super-mega hypocrisy
from Dagestan’s elite, and really, from
the elites of the North Caucasus and
Chechnya as well. We’ll talk about Chechnya now.
They just constantly
lie outrageously, and at the same time demand that everyone else
apologize, believe their
lies, and under no circumstances challenge
their words. And of course, the worst part is this.
This really is just
I don’t even know how this could be
said. There is this speaker of the
Legislative Assembly, Khizri
Shikhsaidov.
A grown man, gray-haired.
You’re the speaker of the Legislative Assembly.
Putin is holding a meeting on this
coronavirus situation, because it’s impossible not to
do so. In fact, out of all the federal subjects
of Russia, Putin separately addressed
Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Dagestan. And nothing
else. Because in Dagestan
there is a catastrophe, and you can’t not hold
a separate meeting. So Putin
is holding a meeting on coronavirus, uh,
and it concerns your republic. You are
the speaker of the Legislative Assembly. All the
people’s representatives, so to speak, are
subordinate to you to one degree or another. You
show up, and all of Dagestan is watching you.
So what do you say? What does this
man say? Listen:
"People are asking you, uh, that those
amendments that we are supposed to make to the
Constitution of the Russian Federation not
be delayed, but be adopted
in a timely manner, because people are waiting
for this. And there is understanding,
so to speak."
I watched this, and my jaw just
dropped. A gray-haired man, probably
some kind of respected figure. He was elected
somehow, after all. So this whole
ritual dance is performed around him.
This whole performance: let’s appoint a respected
man. Everyone is looking at you. Zero
people in Dagestan right now have any
desire or request to extend Putin’s
powers. And at the same time, absolutely everyone
has a request: "Help with money,
send ventilators, we need medical staff, we need
something." We’ve got the Emergency Ministry puffing
itself up with some kind of mobile
hospitals and whatever else. At the very least,
you could pay doctors more money,
pay them more, like in Italy. In Italy
there was a catastrophe. Italy, uh, honestly
said, "Guys, we have a catastrophe,
help us." And everyone helped them,
sending aid, and we sent
some assistance too. And it was an honest
conversation, because really,
you cannot hide the deaths of your
neighbors. And this man, when he,
well, even just from a political
point of view, should have said: "Vladimir
Vladimirovich, if you really want to flatter him,
we all love you very much. In Dagestan
everyone respects you so much, everyone values you so highly.
And of course, we are sure that now you will
provide us with help. You will send us
ventilators, give us additional
financial assistance, and to some villages we will
send mobile hospitals, and so
on and so forth. In other words,
you would use the opportunity and get something out of
him, because this is live on air.
Because in this situation Putin cannot
answer anything other than
"Dear Mr. or Comrade Shikhsaidov,
of course, yes, of course. We always
allocate huge amounts of money to
Dagestan for everything. And in this
situation we will help and send it." But
instead, the man really burns up this
opportunity of his just to
show that when his
fellow countrymen are dying right now, he must
fawn over Putin. Notice and remember,
Putin: even in a tragic, crisis
moment, I bowed and grovelled before
you so that you would remember my
servility. It’s simply disgraceful. I
know that right now in Dagestan signatures
they’re rallying against him, but they’re all like that,
the whole of United Russia, they’re all built that way
They really are traitors. What’s
happening right now is an act
of betrayal of Dagestan. What irony,
yes, everyone is writing to me about it now. You
used to shout, “Stop feeding the Caucasus” (a Russian nationalist slogan about ending federal subsidies to the North Caucasus). And
now you’re the one running around there the most. Well,
that’s exactly what I’ve always said,
that no matter how much money you give them, they’ll
steal it all, that whole elite, they’ll
loot it and siphon it off. And that is exactly what
happened. They took everything. There is absolutely no
healthcare at all. Everything
has fallen apart. And now they’re
coming back and fawning over Putin again. For
what? So they can once again get
uncontrolled money, which they will again
steal. And for that they need
people to vote for United Russia. When
the time comes to vote for United
Russia, they’ll run to these doctors and
force them to vote. They’ll
go to those villages where there were
huge numbers of deaths, which they
lied about, and once again they’ll ask everyone,
pressure them, falsify things,
make them vote, and so on. Don’t
do that. In the next election, in the
vote on the constitution. I just
really hope—I know that
a fairly substantial number of people
from the North Caucasus, from Dagestan, are watching.
Well, of course not everyone, certainly not everyone,
but let’s somehow, well, let’s try just once
to be outraged and respond to this insult
by not voting
for them, plain and simple, and by not staying silent about
this insult. Because, well,
it’s impossible, simply impossible. How can anyone
cover up the deaths of hundreds of people and 36 doctors?
It’s just absolutely
outrageous. Chechnya.
We’re not getting the same kind of information from there as from
Dagestan, but something bad is clearly happening there too.
Well, first of all, today
reports appeared saying that Ramzan
Kadyrov had been hospitalized with
coronavirus. There are a lot of jokes going around online about it.
I’m not going to
gloat under any circumstances.
A sick person is a sick
person. I wish any sick person
a recovery. And I wish Ramzan Kadyrov
a recovery as well. But of course I
can’t help noting that after all these years
he has been in power there, after the enormous, unimaginable
amount of money poured into Chechnya,
there wasn’t even a single intensive care unit
to treat the president of the republic.
No one is even saying otherwise: he
is in Moscow; he was flown there on a special aircraft
and is being treated in a Moscow
hospital because, well,
the man needs to be cured. That’s how
the country works, you see. If you need
to treat someone—not only in Chechnya, but in
Kamchatka, the Urals, or Chechnya—if
they really need proper treatment, what do you
have to do? Take them to Moscow. Damn, but
you can’t exactly send everyone by special plane,
can you?
There’s nothing there. Where did all that truly
colossal money that was
allocated to Chechnya go? We don’t know, but
it went somewhere. Or rather, we
do know. Just open YouTube, please,
and watch videos from Chechnya. And the most popular videos
from Chechnya—there are hundreds like them—show
some motorcade driving around in Bentleys,
Porsches,
I mean, I don’t know, gold
rims and all that stuff, some
leopards jumping around, and people throwing
money. That’s where it all went,
you see? We can send entire gigantic lines
of Bentleys down the roads
of Chechnya, but there isn’t even one hospital to treat
at least the president of the republic.
There’s nothing.
Let Ramzan Kadyrov be treated in Moscow.
That’s very good. But then why
at the same time actually intimidate and
humiliate your own medical workers there in the
hospital? There,
the medical staff tried to do the same thing
that people are doing all across Russia. They did exactly the right thing.
They spoke out,
saying that they, uh, didn’t have enough
protective equipment. They simply gathered
in front of the hospital. I’ll show you 23 seconds of it.
It’s mostly in Chechen, but
people who know the language translated it, and the medical workers
are protesting the lack
of protective equipment. This is what it looks like.
Nobody likes videos like these. I
show them here often. I’m drawing
attention to the medical workers’ union. These videos
don’t please anyone. Not in Chechnya, not in
Dagestan, not in Smolensk. And in
the Pskov region, no one in the authorities likes them either,
but only in Chechnya, in its finest
traditions, did they
force the medical workers to apologize publicly. Yes,
good Lord, why? They came out
simply to say there isn’t enough
protective equipment, we’ll get sick, we’ll infect
you. But no, instead someone has to come and
make a special report, a TV segment,
on the Grozny TV channel. They called those
poor medical workers provocateurs. And they
were made to explain on video what
terrible mistakes they had made. Forty-seven seconds.
As for the protective equipment, we didn’t know.
It turns out the hospital did have it. We
got scared; we weren’t prepared for this.
Basically, it was panic because
I was not informed about the availability of
of COVID-19 protective equipment,
uh, a meeting was held. Well, we were
later told and had it explained to us
that such forms do exist. For the time being,
those same forms were provided. We, as
doctors, should not have been so
worried. And our problem
is that we raised
a problem that, supposedly, we do not have. We
did not know that this protective
equipment was
actually available. Of course, we should first have
made sure, uh, whether, ah, the
personal protective equipment was in stock.
That was a brilliant phrase. Our mistake was
that we raised a problem
that we do not have. I mean, I
laugh at it, but the situation is actually
monstrous. Again, the whole republic
knows that doctors really did not have
protective equipment. They are obliged—
if they are decent people, they are obliged to
shout about it, because otherwise
they themselves become a source of
infection. I am simply curious how this
works. So they watched this video,
and then, I do not know, Kadyrov and some of his
top officials saw it. And what did they do?
Did they, I do not know, drive to that
hospital with assault rifles and say, "Record this or we
will kill you," or, I do not know, somehow
shame them or pressure them? I mean,
these are clearly frightened people,
intimidated people, and it is obvi-
ous that they were telling the truth, that they
did not have protective equipment, and now they are being forced
to lie and say that the protective equipment
is there. Why? That is the question: why?
Oh, supposedly so as not to disgrace
the republic, so they can say
that everything is available. But in Moscow, doctors
—and Moscow is richer than even Chechnya—
even in Moscow, doctors say: "We do not have
protective equipment." So they said it there on
the issue of protective equipment, Kadyrov could have come out
or the others could have said: "Yes, the
doctors appealed to us, and now we will buy from
the Ramzan Kadyrov Foundation masks and
respirators and so on." But no, they
send in some people who are
simply intimidated and then humiliated before
the entire republic, forced to apologize for
speaking the truth. What is going on? Why is this
being done? And again, all of this is done under
the banner of: "We are a great people, we are
the proudest," while they themselves force their own
people to humiliate themselves.
It is simply, absolute- it is simply
disgusting and utterly monstrous. And
this is, of course, the style of United Russia. And on
Instagram it is the same thing; Instagram is very popular
there, and everything gets pushed through Instagram.
It is very prominent. They have a man,
the chief physician of the local hospital, Kozbek
Sultanovich Mezhidov.
His account is extremely pro-Kadyrov. Every other
photo is Kadyrov, Kadyrov, Kadyrov,
Kadyrov. And between those photos: such-and-such
doctor has died. He is basically
writing almost every day: "The chief doctor of the ambulance service,
the deputy chief doctor of the ambulance service,
has died, another person there
has died." That is, he is constantly writing
about colleagues who have died. When you
were just showing it, please bring it back,
please, yes. And the deputy chief of the ambulance
service, yes, a young man—young
people, young doctors are dying, including
because there is no protective equipment. So why
are you busy with this nonsense,
making them apologize on camera?
This video was sent from Chechnya. I will say right away
that it is in the Chechen language. We asked
an acquaintance from Chechnya to translate it. And
it is claimed—I cannot
say this with 100% certainty, because I did not get it from
Instagram, right? What is this? A hospital
in Grozny. At that, at that
moment—it was recorded, I think, yesterday—
the official line in the republic says that they have
only nine deaths. Here
a woman in this video says:
"Who said that only nine people
have died? We alone have had two
people die—there are still warm bodies. And here there are another
four bodies. Let us watch this
video.
Four.
We do not know how catastrophic
the situation in Chechnya is. Whether it is
as catastrophic as in Dagestan. Well,
it seems that in Chechnya there was a much
stricter self-isolation regime,
because Kadyrov introduced it from the very
beginning. But clearly there is the same
lying about this there, about everything. I very much
hope so. I know for a fact that
the leaders of the republic will be watching
this broadcast, and tomorrow whoever it usually is there,
some press minister, will put out a whole
angry and indignant
statement. Every time I say something about them,
about corruption in Chechnya,
they say that Navalny has slandered
our republic. Do not go looking for the
person who recorded this video. Do not
waste time on this nonsense. Just
admit it—what is the problem? Admit it. I
for the life of me really do not
understand. If you tell the truth about all
those who have really died and fallen ill, who
will be worse off because of that? As Volkov said in
his video: "And when you conceal
mortality, you are committing
a crime against your own people, including
because, well, you make it harder
to fight viruses like this in the future,
because, well, we have to understand,
what the real dynamics of the spread are
in the North Caucasus. There, there is a particular
kind of distinct way of life, it seems,
probably, into play. On that very day, many
people infect one another. It is customary
to hug, kiss, and so on.
It is important to understand how
rapidly and intensely infection is spreading in
the republics of the North Caucasus, and how
dire the healthcare situation is there.
It is important to know this so that people can survive in
the future, starting right now. And when you lie,
you are committing, and I repeat for the millionth time,
what is simply a crime against
your own people. You must immediately,
immediately stop lying about this. And I
am simply calling on everyone, and on the residents, well,
of Russia and of the North Caucasus in particular,
where the lies are the most brazen, to simply
go after your authorities. Well, in Chechnya,
of course, that is very difficult to do. There,
for every comment you leave on Instagram, someone
comes to see you and forces you
to apologize somewhere on a treadmill. But
even so, do not vote for them. Talk
to one another, agree among yourselves on
the fact that it is right to fight and go after this
government. Show solidarity with such
medical workers. Now, to the questions. 92,000 people
are watching us live. And the account FANAkunt
Dashki asks me: "Why do you
think officials from Tyumen
keep ending up in high-ranking positions in
the state?" Sobyanin, Yakushev, Falkov,
is there some kind of pattern?"
Of course there is. The mafia. The wealthy Tyumen
mafia. And it became allied with Putin's St. Petersburg
mafia. That is why Sobyanin drags
his own people along and brings them from
Tyumen. Tyumen is a region where
political lawlessness and
electoral fraud have always been the norm. In that sense,
well, they are simply bringing in their own
mafia, so that this mafia
could help here, including
to loot money. But it is not only, not only
the Tyumen one. For example, now
the construction minister, and before that
the deputy
to Sobyanin for construction, Khusnullin, brought his own
entire Kazan mafia with him.
Yeltsin used to bring along various
people from Sverdlovsk. In that sense, this is a
tradition, a disgusting tradition
of Russian politics: a person arrives
and brings a whole clan with him. Ah, and it is not
even in the sense that these are people with whom
he has worked. Any person
who is appointed somewhere—if I were
appointed or elected somewhere, there would be people with me
whom I know, whom I trust,
with whom I have worked. But there
it is a geographic principle, because, well,
it is like, we handled little matters together there,
and that is why they keep bringing them in. This is
the kind of personnel reserve they feel they need to bring in. And
that is because, well, well, like any mafia,
there is this, uh, system of mutual
cover-up and simply a system of oaths and
never giving up your own people. That is how everything is built
in Russia.
And when will they officially comment on
the petition? Well, there are a huge number
of questions about the petition. Last time, we
were not able, live on air, to collect
100,000
votes, because apparently, in the Kremlin,
not apparently—obviously—in the Kremlin they were very
worried that we would, right there live
on air, literally within a day, within a few
hours, triumphantly collect 100,000
verified signatures. So they
simply stopped counting signatures during
the broadcast. But in any case, we
did it in less than a day; we did it the
next day. And when will they
comment on it, and what will they say?"
Of course, they will drag it out until the very end.
Look, the political setup
is as follows: millions of people
are demanding that financial
assistance be paid out. Putin and his group, all of his
various economic advisers and his,
well, in the literal sense of the word, mafia—all
these Rotenbergs, Timchenkos, and so on—
they are also looking at these 11
trillion rubles. The main message behind
"let's provide aid" is that
there are 11 trillion rubles, so let's distribute them.
On the other hand, a few people are looking at that
and saying, "Damn, that is
11 trillion. It would be stupid to give it away." And
Putin, together with them, is sitting at the same
table, because they are one gang
of crooks. They say, "Damn, it would be
so upsetting and unpleasant. We
saved up these 11 trillion in order to
carve them up among ourselves, and now what, we are supposed to
hand it all over to some random Vasya
Petya, Kolya, and Makhmud?"
Of course not. That is why they do not want
to say anything. And when the time comes to say something,
they will, of course,
start talking about how, uh,
well, there are supposedly 100 reasons why they should not
give you money. That is exactly why we must not
stop collecting signatures. There must be
political pressure of sufficient
scale. Sitting there at their table and
worrying that those 11 trillion will have to be
not carved up, but partly handed out to people,
they will hand it out to people, because they
will be afraid of a political catastrophe, and
it will happen if we do not gather
a sufficient number of votes. And there is,
of course, one more important factor:
basically, these people who are sitting
there, they,
As I've said many times, they are so far
removed from real
life,
uh, for them it's like, you know, "I know
ordinary people" means you've talked to your driver
or you've talked to
the housekeeper.
They are so out of touch that they
really think that, well, there is no
such situation where everyone is outright
demanding it. And in that sense, of course,
the quote of the week, absolutely the quote of the week,
possibly of the month.
It was our labor minister, Kotyakov, when he
appeared on Pozner's program, he simply
said a brilliant line; everyone was
quoting it this week: you
know, we started, we made this
decision, one of the points of our
program, to allocate 10,000 rubles per
child. And we didn't expect, can you imagine,
we didn't expect that people would need
those 10,000 rubles so badly. 40,000 applications a minute.
Can you imagine, Pozner was really
there with him, and he understands he'll be shown
to an audience of millions, but he doesn't
understand what nonsense he's spouting. He
says to Pozner: "Can you imagine, we didn't
expect it. Let's look at 31
seconds. I'll play the clip. Vladimir
Vladimirovich announced this measure. And
on the ...th there were
around 40,000 requests per minute from
different... per minute. 40,000 requests per
minute to the website to receive these
payments.
Per minute,
of course, to be honest, my colleagues and I
probably did not expect such
demand for this measure. Right. But
already today, as of the time I was
coming here for the program, already today we
have received almost 8 million applications
through the government services portals. They
cover more than 11 million children.
Didn't expect it. He's the labor minister. You're the
labor minister. You pay unemployment
benefits. You're a minister, for God's sake.
You know the official statistics: 22 million
people below the poverty line. Official
statistics. And he says, "We didn't expect it.
People need 10,000 rubles. Damn, I spend
that 10,000 rubles just to, I don't
know, buy coffee in a café. One lunch
costs me 10,000 rubles. So who could
have known, who could have guessed that they
really are sitting there with no money? And they
discuss it. And Pozner is like, "40,000 a
minute. Wow, yes, 40,000 a
minute, because your Channel One and
all your officials have literally, excuse
the expression, eaten everyone else alive."
People have no money." And this, of course, this
is very important for understanding the psychology
of this government. Every other question here
is about psychology. Why do they do
this, why do they do that, uh, all
of this they do because,
well, Putin has been sitting in the Kremlin since 1996.
Since 1996, we're talking
about someone who has been ruling the country for 20 years,
since 1996 he has been a senior
official, deputy head of the
Presidential Property Management Department. The most
thievish sphere there was in 1996 under
Yeltsin. They stole just about everything there. And
Putin was there, busy with all sorts of shady dealings.
Then he headed the FSB (Russia's security service) in order to
cover up those shady dealings. And before that he
was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg. So
for decades now he has been a major
official with a government car,
huge state apartments, a pile of
privileges, and envelopes, envelopes,
envelopes full of cash. And all of them, well,
look at them all there, whether it's
Sobyanin or anyone else. They've been there for decades
and for decades have been
millionaires and billionaires in dollar terms
and so on. So to them, really,
10,000 rubles is like—what's the point of giving
him 10,000 rubles if we'd rather
save up that money and take it for ourselves?
They genuinely think that's the more
rational and proper thing to do—like,
steal it and spend it wisely. That is,
buying a yacht somehow, well, seems
more normal than handing out money to some
people—10,000 rubles each. What do they need 10,000 for?
They still won't buy a yacht or anything with it.
And that is exactly how
exactly how everything is
set up for them. And at the same time, in
Russia, two astonishing
processes are taking place. Well, not just in Russia—in the world.
People are getting poorer. Ministers are surprised that
people are getting poorer and need 10,000 rubles. And this
week a ranking of the richest
people in the UK comes out. Two
of them are from Russia. Two people.
What place is Usmanov in? Second
or third? Ah, seventh.
Seventh place with a fortune of £1.6 billion
pounds sterling, and in twelfth place
Roman Abramovich. So there you have the
direct connection. Both Usmanov and
Abramovich—people who have brought zero benefit.
These are just old Soviet
enterprises that, in Abramovich's case,
pulled oil out of the ground, and in
Usmanov's case pulled ore out of the ground,
sold it abroad, and now
they are the richest citizens
of the United Kingdom. And here, someone is choking in an
electronic queue just to
get a share of 10,000 rubles. Let's recall
30 seconds of the wonderful Usmanov, from the
absolute classics of Russian
the oligarchs when he made his
video address to me and said that
I was, like, just jealous, while he
lives in peace with himself.
The profit I made there
amounted to more than $4.5 billion.
So, out of that money, besides
taxes, I gave away another billion.
to charity and simply to help
people. And with the rest, if you're
really that interested,
I just want to explain this to you so that
you won't be jealous. I bought everything I
have, including a beautiful boat and
a plane, because I live in
happiness, Lyosha, unlike you.
Well, of course he lives in happiness, unlike
everyone else. Sure. He stole
$12 billion, gave $1 billion
to charity, and with the rest of the
money bought a yacht and everything else.
Now he lives in happiness and thinks
that's normal. But this wasn't some
hidden camera footage — it was an address
made in such a way that it would be
seen by as many people as possible.
That just perfectly
explains why all of this is happening.
A lot of questions are coming in about, well, the Moscow Region
passes being canceled. What do you
think, in general, about how
the quarantine will be organized going forward? What
is happening right now with the quarantine,
the restrictions, and everything else? Well,
look, it's a mess. The mess
is continuing. And in that sense, it is still
the key word for Russian
public administration. The best, uh, the best
demonstration of what this
mess looks like — I saw it today from the head
of our штаб in Bashkortostan, Lilia Chanysheva.
She simply posted an image showing
the sequence of actions taken by
the president of Bashkortostan. Uh, here's what he
did when the coronavirus hit. So,
Khabirov first introduced a self-isolation regime,
then nine days later a curfew,
then the next day allowed people to travel
somewhere if they completed electronic
registration, then canceled, canceled that
travel registration, then after
a few days lifted the isolation regime,
but kept the curfew, then
brought back self-isolation only for, uh,
the elderly, then allowed people to travel
somewhere. I mean, uh, you know, there's
this famous funny thing, funny
and true, where people were proving that
investment bankers aren't really
needed, because, well, because they
are pointless, they deceive people, and, uh,
they took a stock portfolio put together by
investment bankers, and they took
a monkey — an actual monkey — and
rearranged blocks in front of it. And
the monkey chose the blocks, and
according to those blocks, an investment portfolio was
formed in exactly the same way.
So the smart investment bankers, like
this Khabirov in a tie, and
the monkey competed. And in the end, the monkey won.
If you appointed a monkey right now
as head of Bashkortostan, it wouldn't just win,
it would do a hundred times better than this
President Khabirov. Just absolutely
a million times better. Because what
is happening across the country right now, not
just in Bashkortostan, is simply chaos,
random numbers, as if someone were tossing
some dice. But most importantly, it's just
a bunch of crooks whose, well, only task
ever was
to rig elections for Putin and
steal. They never did anything else. So
Khabirov has never done anything in his life
other than rig elections and
steal. And now he's been told:
"Some kind of healthcare, some kind of
coronavirus." And he genuinely doesn't know what
to do. He doesn't understand how to read
an article. He doesn't understand how to
analyze foreign experience. He
understands nothing. So they do
all these strange things. And that's exactly
what is happening right now across the
country. And in Moscow there's this absolutely astonishing
story involving
the super-mega-technological Sobyanin.
Billions of rubles have been spent on a system
for, uh, registering citizens, tracking them,
analyzing their whereabouts, and so on. All
these passes, all these self-isolation violation
cases. And there was a disabled woman named
Irina Karabulatova. She has a
Facebook account, and she simply wrote there — which is how
everyone found out. She felt
unwell.
A doctor came. She is disabled, she cannot
move at all, she is bedridden. And she
felt unwell, a doctor came,
diagnosed her with ARVI, and then she received
a fine for violating self-isolation, because
she was supposedly required to install some
kind of app on her phone. She, uh,
wrote a post saying, guys, I am
a person confined to bed. I do not
go anywhere at all. And you're sending me
a huge fine for allegedly violating
the self-isolation regime. Naturally,
a scandal erupted. They apologized to her,
and the mayor's office said, my God,
this is a terrible mistake. It's one
small glitch. And of course we are canceling,
voiding Irina Karabulatova's fine.
What happened the next day? She
was issued another fine. She was issued yet
another fine. And now thousands of people
in Moscow are receiving notifications that
A fine has been issued for no clear reason, for
some alleged rule violation. I mean,
there is simply a system through which
a huge amount of money was stolen. This system works
terribly; it glitches nonstop. Ah, but
Sobyanin kept telling us for years
what a great IT expert he is, what a
brilliant manager he is, and how he was now going to
roll out his Big Brother system here.
And maybe the system does perform the function
of surveillance, and it performs the function of stealing
money through it perfectly well, but
the damn thing does not work. And all these
passes need to be abolished, but they still
keep them in place. And it still
keeps issuing fines. It’s like the saying: the mice cry, prick themselves, but
keep eating the cactus. That’s what
is happening. And in that sense, uh, we are
the same kind of mice, watching all of this.
Uh, and so when you ask me
what will happen next, I really do not
know what will happen next. I understand one
thing: they need to hold a vote.
They want to hold this vote on June 24,
and along with it they want a parade,
the Immortal Regiment (a Russian commemorative march honoring WWII veterans), in other words, some kind of
tinsel around this vote
to muddle our minds. And
that is why right now they are lowering all the
statistics so that by June 24 they can pretend
that we have defeated the coronavirus and hold
the vote. Probably, if this
kind of Dagestan situation keeps going on
and there is total chaos across the country, they will not
risk holding it on June 24 and
will do it later. But in any case, this is
the main and only thing the authorities are
thinking about right now: how to organize this
phony referendum, because Putin, uh,
understanding that his ratings are falling, wants
it immediately—well, like an old man
throwing a tantrum, he says: immediately.
I want them all to vote right now
and I want a piece of paper on my desk
that says: "All the people came to the
not a referendum, but a nationwide
vote and said that I am the most
beautiful, rosier and fairer than anyone else, I am
the loveliest of all in the world. The old man just
wants it and is being petulant." And the whole
system of power is geared precisely toward that.
A funny situation came up with these
Putin speeches about SNiPs (Russian construction codes) and
all that nonsense. I noticed it because
I immediately remembered that this had happened
exactly a year ago. And in fact, it has happened
many, many times.
At one of his regular meetings, Putin
started scolding people—well, as usual, the boyars (a sarcastic reference to subordinates) are
to blame. And he started complaining: "Guys,
why aren’t we building hospitals? I
promised that we would now be building
hospitals, but we can’t do it like in
China, where they just go ahead and
knock out these hospitals in five days. And it is all
because we have, supposedly, some kind of
SNiPs, some kind of nonsense, some heap of
paperwork and red tape going on, which I
said long ago should be abolished. Let’s watch it. 31
seconds.
A year. He told me it would take a year
for the design work, and another two years for
construction.
Listen, by the end of July this facility will already be
completed. I am perfectly well aware
of what is happening in this field. We
have discussed this many times. All these SNiPs,
all this nonsense, and the people who have latched onto this kind of
activity, uh, these quasi-participants
in the process—listen, they need to be
finally cleared out; in the end, we need to
put things in order there,
Exactly, just as he says—bravo,
our national leader: clear them out, put things
in order—that is exactly what needs to be done. For 20 years
he has been in power, and he says: "Clear them out,
put things in order." Exactly one year ago, on
May 16, 2019. So what did our
energetic tsar-president say about
SNiPs? Let’s listen. We need to change outdated
rules and SNiPs, and we need to
resolve the issue of pricing. It is
completely obvious, yes, because under
today’s rules, something may cost
10 rubles, but if it is valued at two,
it is impossible to carry out this work. That is
true.
He says the same thing about these SNiPs
—that it is impossible to get anything done. So then, what
is actually happening in the country? Look,
it makes sense when a president wants some
reforms, but there is a large opposition
in parliament, and he cannot push them through
because he has to negotiate.
It makes sense when there is a president who wants
to change something—for example, abolish SNiPs—
but he is generally in opposition, in the minority,
a minority in parliament, and no matter what he does there,
he just cannot get that law
passed; it does not work out. As very often happens
all over the world, in places where
there are parliamentary republics: you promise things,
you win on those promises, and then you cannot
deliver. But here, United Russia
controls not just parliament, but
every regional parliament; they have been sitting there
for the same 20 years with one-hundred-percent
control over everything. Any law can be
passed just like that, in a minute, just as
they in fact did with
the Constitution. And they sit there saying:
"We need to abolish SNiPs." Yes, we need to abolish
SNiPs. A year later, the All-Russia People’s Front says we need to
abolish SNiPs. Yes, we need to abolish SNiPs. And
yes, for 20 years you can simply sit down
and look at every single problem. Rising fuel prices,
business regulation, these
wretched SNiPs every year
They say, "Yes, it needs to be removed." And then they don't remove it.
Never, because the task is
different. So then he was asked a question:
"Why the hell can't we build a
hospital?" Mm, the SNiPs (Soviet/Russian construction and building regulations), the SNiPs are getting in the way. Then
they got moving, and then right away the Rotenbergs,
Timchenko—let's sort things out, what the hell
do we need building codes for? We need to carve up 11 trillion.
And they started carving it up. And this isn't
an exaggeration. Theft requires
administration. It requires, well,
some kind of complex organizational schemes, and then
you no longer have time for anything
else. And a great example of this is our
wonderful, magnificent Speaker of the
State Duma, Volodin.
I mean, he is the
embodiment
of the toady who rules the country. The speaker
of parliament. Before that, one of the
top officials in the presidential administration.
The most famous thing Vyacheslav
Volodin has done in all his long
political career, where he prostituted himself
everywhere, was being a flunky,
first in Fatherland – All Russia, then
he switched over to United Russia—he was always
groveling before everyone and always clawing his way up. And
now, of course, his signature phrase is
that Russia's advantage is not oil
and gas, but Putin. Let's remember that. 15
seconds. Those threats that exist in the world
today.
Oil and gas are not our advantage, as you
can see—both oil and gas can fall in
price. Our advantage is Putin, and we
must protect him. Thank you.
And you see, with such forcefulness: it's not oil and
gas that are our advantage, it's Putin. What, are you
stupid or something—haven't you understood that
by now? Putin is our main
advantage. *The Insider* published a great
investigation about Volodin.
Go read it. But I'll briefly
tell you about it. Remember our
investigation about how Vyacheslav
Volodin has a mother who is 84
years old, and he registers things in the name of this mother of his—her name is
Lidiya Barabanova—including
his businesses, some of his shares, and in
particular, his property. And a huge
apartment there—500 square meters (about 5,380 sq ft)—was also
registered in the name of his elderly mother. And then he even
said, well, you know, my
mother is, like, in business,
ha-ha. And everyone laughs, everyone understands. There was
a huge scandal, for example, involving me
personally—a clash with the newspaper *Vedomosti*,
censorship, in which, among other things,
it started with them not passing on, not
reporting anything about this
mother's apartment to Volodin. Well, because Volodin
is a big, powerful man. And, well, the situation
is just completely obvious. I mean,
the woman is 84 years old, and she owns
a 500 m² apartment (about 5,380 sq ft). Guess who
that apartment really belongs to? Just to
refresh your memory—40 seconds from that
video of ours.
An extract from Rosreestr (Russia's state property registry) showing that
Vyacheslav Volodin created such wonderful conditions around his
elderly mother—conditions of love, tenderness, and care—
that Lidiya
Petrovna acquired for herself ownership of
a 400-square-meter apartment (about 4,300 sq ft) in the elite
residential complex Bely Lebed (White Swan) on
Vorobyovy Gory near Moscow State University. The place is
absolutely stunning—see for yourselves.
One of the best residential complexes in Moscow,
400 square meters. Apartments like that probably
barely even exist. That's four sotkas (about 400 m²), almost like
a standard dacha plot.
And now it has turned out.
[music]
We're back online again. It's a funny
standoff. Apparently, every time
I sort of boast and say, "And we've
managed to reconnect again," over there they
start running around, changing things, disconnecting
us. But nevertheless, we're live again,
and I'll continue the story about
Volodin. So then, let's
take a look at his young wife, who
sings in a sarafan (traditional Russian dress).
Singing is the winner of the contest "Shumbrat, My
Land, My Mordovia"—Yana Polyakina.
Lisa Angelii Pavser.
Sankelisia.
summer
chashuch mamatoru
moronva sushnatsachu
mama storo
[music]
Our speaker got so lucky that he has not just
a young wife, but a rich young
wife, because along with the wife came
—who had also been his assistant—
an apartment: a two-level
apartment in the Fusion Park residential complex,
347
m² (about 3,735 sq ft). As you can imagine, that's a very, very
expensive apartment. But *The Insider* dug up the fact
that this apartment was registered in her name,
and then she transferred it to
a company, and that company, in turn,
belongs to his mother. So, in short, this whole
long story, briefly: now another
huge Volodin apartment belongs
to his mother as well—84-year-old
Lidiya Karabanova. And this is the kind of
thing that, you know,
always happens with them:
they sit in state, damn it,
positions, and then somehow the mother has an apartment
from who knows where, and then oh—there's a young
wife, and the young wife has some kind of
huge apartment. And all of it
adds up, and all of it gets registered in the name of
his mommy. And none of this will show up in the disclosure.
No, none of it will. And when the elections come around,
Volodin will come out and say:
"Guys, I don’t have anything,
except my salary in the State Duma.
I’ll be out there walking around Saratov for you," where he
is usually elected—well, where they
falsify the election for him so that
he becomes a deputy." And he goes on
about what an honest lawmaker he is, while
all these apartments are registered in his mother’s name. And how
did his thirty-three-year-old
assistant end up with, in the first place,
an apartment measuring 374 sq. m? Well, obviously,
we understand perfectly well. We know how
this works. It’s just that we don’t know exactly
how this money was carried around in suitcases
and who delivered it. But what we see here are
huge, colossal, corrupt,
obviously illicit incomes being hidden from us.
What I was getting at is that
all of this is complicated to administer. So
just imagine how much time Putin
has to spend stealing something,
squirreling it away, and registering it in his
family’s name, because he has to hide it ten times
better.
That’s because
Volodin can simply afford to put
everything in his mommy’s name. And then some
new young wife appears somewhere, but with Putin,
it’s even more complicated, right? Even for that same
Volodin, to set up this whole scheme
and control it all, it still takes
time. Lawyers, trusted people,
powers of attorney to sign, paperwork to process,
documents to transfer. All of that takes time. And instead,
of actually
running the country, they spend most
of their time on these
schemes. And then they say:
"Damn, I worked like a galley slave"—
that’s what Putin tells us, because all day long
there are people standing in the reception room.
Sign for this one, sign for that one,
assign something to another one, have something done for someone else. And
remember Volodin—we found a dacha
there, and not just Volodin’s, but a whole
crowd of them—a dacha cooperative called Sosna—in
the Istra District, with enormous country houses. There,
you can see how beautiful it is. But now it’s
even more beautiful, because
everything has been built. So now, in the end,
as our insider tells us, there’s
1 billion rubles’ worth of real estate there alone, and all of that
had to be built. Contractors had to be
hired, things had to be allocated somehow, hidden away,
all so that later he could walk around and
say, you know, I don’t have any of
this. I mean, the apartments kind of
exist, but on paper there’s nothing.
That takes a certain amount of time. And then
of course, you also need to have
a kind of superhuman brazenness. These people really do have
a superpower, like in
Batman, I don’t know. No, actually Batman
didn’t have a superpower, by the way. He was
just a rich guy. Superman has
a superpower, some
Green Lantern has a superpower, but people
like Volodin—their superpower is, of course,
the ability to lie shamelessly,
without even blinking or stumbling. Just
with such force and
such sincere indignation. Today in the
State Duma, there was some kind of
session, and a Communist deputy got up and
said what I said on my previous
program—well, everyone is saying it now.
If we introduced a mask mandate,
then let’s buy masks for people,
because it would cost the state
relatively little. And now you’ll
see this video, and first
United Russia member Makarov says something similar—he
literally says, you know,
buying masks for people is PR off
the coronavirus, and that’s heartless.
Heartless. In other words, the proposal
to give these poor people,
who are forced every time they enter
the metro to buy a mask, a mask
for free—what are you talking about? That’s heartless.
They’re simply staggering in their
brazen lying and their brazen,
even irrational behavior. We say:
"Give people money." They say that’s
heartless. It’s really something. And Volodin
immediately echoes him and says too: "What
is this? Why? Why do you keep
doing this all the time? You’re constantly
discrediting something. Discrediting what?
Let’s watch 56 seconds of heartless
behavior.
Please, Kurenny. Alexei
Vladimirovich.
The body or level of government that
introduces a state of emergency or
a high-alert regime is the same one that
must also provide, if the wearing of these
PPE—personal protective equipment—is
made mandatory,
the population with the appropriate
personal protective equipment. This is absolutely
normal, absolutely clear. If the state
or the municipality introduced it, then it should also
provide it, if it is mandatory.
We’re already used to PR at the budget’s expense. PR
off the coronavirus is inhumane.
Those enterprises that are operating now
have that option. And the state—
we made that decision together—counts
those expenses toward their
production activity.
Why do we take everything and not only
call it into question, but constantly
discredit it?
Yes, it’s hard for us not to question it,
because it’s completely unclear where you’re getting
all these apartments from, one after another,
worth hundreds of millions of rubles.
It’s genuinely impossible to understand where they come from. You
register them all in your mother’s name, and then
tell people they don’t need to buy
masks. This isn’t just some heartless mistake,
it’s inhumane. It’s simply inhumane.
The sheer nerve is absolutely astounding,
just unbelievable arrogance. And I wanted to tell you a funny story
about, uh,
Medvedev’s yacht. Anyone interested—I mentioned this exclusively—
anyone who wants to can right now
buy Medvedev’s yacht called
Fatinia. Do you remember the story from the film *He Is Not Dimon to You*
(a well-known anti-corruption documentary about Dmitry Medvedev)? You probably do: there was
first one yacht, and then later
another. Both of those yachts were named Fatinia.
And that was one of those, well,
indirect but amusing pieces of evidence
that this yacht really
belonged to Medvedev and was used by
his wife. Let’s take a few seconds—well,
three minutes and forty seconds—and watch a clip from
*He Is Not Dimon to You* so you can
remember which yachts we’re talking about,
because take a close look, please,
check the price. And right now you can
buy one of these yachts.
[music]
We uncover yet another Cypriot company,
Furina Limited, 100% owned
personally by Medvedev’s former classmate Ilya
Yeliseyev. And then just how much more
opened up to us after that. Furina has
a subsidiary company in Russia. It is called
Investment Partnership. Among
the certificates issued to this company, we
see a certificate for a Princess
85 MY yacht. At the time of purchase, such a yacht
cost around 200 million rubles. It looks
like this. Finding out what this yacht
was called is not difficult. In 2009,
Roskomnadzor (Russia’s communications regulator) issued the Investment
Partnership two radio station licenses
and specified which vessel they would
be installed on. The yacht is called Fatinia.
We immediately begin searching for this yacht
across Russia and find
a photograph from 2014, and in it we see
that very yacht, moored—where do you think?
In Plyos, at the pier of the Milovka estate,
that very secret country residence
of Medvedev. But that’s not all. In 2015,
the Investment Partnership
acquired another yacht. It was completely
new and much more expensive. The model was
a Princess 32M. The price was already $11 million
at the exchange rate at the time of purchase—
that was 630 million rubles. And with customs duties,
close to 900 million rubles. It was imported in the summer of 2015
and was called—you simply won’t
believe it—Fatinia as well. Their second
yacht was given exactly the same name.
So, Medvedev and his wife are crooks who have
a great deal of money. First they buy
one yacht for 150 million rubles.
Then, well, apparently that yacht isn’t fancy enough
for them. There you can see it in the
photo. So they buy another one for 865
million rubles. But what do you do with the old one?
Medvedev may like lots of houses, lots of
luxury, but he apparently doesn’t need the yacht anymore.
So where does it go, how do you get rid of it? How do
officials, corrupt ones,
get rid of assets in general? They
bring in some wealthy crook and
sell it to him. Enter Nikolai Shamalov.
No one knows this information. You’re
hearing it for the first time. Let’s take a look, please,
show us the image proving that this yacht
—Fatinia 1—was sold to Nikolai Shamalov.
He’s a friend and in-law of Putin. And here,
we’ve underlined it, yes: Shamalov, Nikolai
Terentyevich, you see? And he, by the way,
also renames the yacht in honor of
his wife Tatyana. Ah, so
Shamalov buys this very yacht from Medvedev,
but apparently he didn’t
really take to it, and now
he’s trying to sell it. Guess where—
on Avito? They actually listed
Medvedev’s yacht on Avito. It’s exactly the same
yacht—you can see the registration numbers and everything else
for 134 million rubles, which shows
how accurately we actually estimated
its value. So, first of all,
it really is funny. You know how it is:
you’ve got an old vacuum cleaner, you buy
a new one, and you say to your wife, ‘What
should we do with the old one?’ And she says, ‘Let’s
put it on Avito.’ Fine,
so you list it. And for them it’s exactly the same with
yachts. Like, ‘Medvedev made me buy this
yacht I don’t need,
just so I could funnel money to him. What am I supposed to do with
it now? Maybe let’s put it on Avito.’
I don’t know how often yachts are sold through
Avito, but in any case,
right now, at 22:23,
you have a unique chance to beat everyone else to it
for—sorry—
COVID doesn’t sleep. To go onto, uh, Avito and
pick up the yacht that was used by
the President of the Russian Federation, who
bought it with stolen money. It’s very
funny. Now let’s talk about something very
fun—well, I mean, it really
did look very funny. I watched
that segment and laughed. Ah, but in fact,
like everything in our program, it’s not
funny at all when it comes to my hometown. There is
a settlement in the Moscow region called Kalininets,
where I spent most of my life.
It’s a military town. The Taman Division is stationed there
and, uh, military personnel live there. These
servicemen and women are constantly suffering because
they don’t have apartments. It’s an endless
This is a scourge of Russia in general, and of state employees in particular,
especially the military. They don’t give them apartments,
even though they promised to. And then on Channel One (Russia’s main state TV channel),
a report comes out about how wonderful it is
that in the settlement of Kalininets in the Naro-Fominsk
district, military personnel have started receiving apartments, and
they’re supposedly very happy with them. Well,
they show them standing there saying:
"Yes, everything is great here, we received
the keys to our service apartments." And somehow
it
just doesn’t look very sincere. And
their insincerity becomes obvious
when the camera shows what
these buildings and apartments actually look like. I’ll even
show you now not that report itself, I think
it was from Channel One, right? But rather a guy
filming that Channel One report on his phone
and his reaction to it.
Because my reaction was about
the same. I’ll stay in the corner of the screen because otherwise we’ll
get banned for showing Channel One footage
for 29 seconds.
More than 130 service members in the Naro-Fominsk
district are celebrating a housewarming. Together with
their families, they received the keys to service
apartments in the settlement of Kalininets. The rooms are
fully ready for occupancy. There is
everything necessary there: furniture, including
kitchen furniture, household appliances, even
curtains on the windows. There are separate areas for
storing baby strollers. In the courtyard there are
playgrounds, a sports complex, a recreation
area, and bicycle parking. Right now in
the same district, construction is being completed on
two more similar buildings for military personnel.
Come on, the director must have made a mistake and shown you
the wrong footage there. I mean, the guy
shows it, and then just starts laughing
hysterically, because they really are trailer units.
He’s literally choking with laughter, shouting:
"Trailers!" And in fact, they’re
housing military personnel in the near Moscow region, in an elite
Tamanskaya Division (a prestigious Russian military division), in
trailers, just like, I don’t know, like
migrant laborers on a construction site, as if they were not people
living in temporary housing. They’re
putting them in trailers and telling everyone that this is
great, super-modern housing, and everyone
is supposed to be proud. And that this is comfortable
housing. Seriously. I mean, this is just
on Channel One, and it’s not even that,
you know, they lied—they absolutely lied—
when they said this was comfortable
housing, but they actually showed what it looks like
from the outside. They are completely serious
in trying to convince all of us that this is a great
situation for Russian military personnel when they’re
living in trailers.
And of course, right away there was
a lot of laughter, a huge scandal around
this video. Russian-speaking
videos were immediately found and people started sharing them
everywhere. About how a serviceman who,
as I understand it, is originally from somewhere
in Central Asia, serves at a military
base in the U.S. And what does housing for
families in the U.S. look like? Let’s take a look. 1
minute 2 seconds.
They put these up specially for Bai so that
he’d feel more comfortable.
More comfortable, yeah.
I think the boogeyman will come get me at night.
Right. You’re the scary one, and I’m the boogeyman. Yeah.
Here we have our bedroom. Yeah. And
over here I just keep my army stuff,
you know.
My workout gear is here too. Nothing
special.
It’s enough. Sometimes buddies come over. And if
a second child is born, do they add another
room for you then?
Yes, then I’d move into a three-room apartment. This one
counts as a two-room. Damn.
Wow.
Here we sometimes play together. I even
bought this specially for Bai. There’s OCP too,
you know. By the way,
how many people live here in your
military town?
People? I heard that here, together
with civilians, it’s 35,000.
Well, there is a difference between this kind of
housing and a trailer. Fine,
maybe we can’t buy this kind of apartment for every one of our
officers. Although this isn’t exactly an apartment,
it’s more like
family dorm-style housing—what in Russia
is usually called a *malosemeyka* (a small family apartment unit), right? But can we really not
provide even something like this? Are we really
going to house people in trailers in the settlement of
Kalininets? Next time I’m there,
I’ll go there on purpose,
and take a look at those trailers. Maybe
I’ll do a report from there for you, maybe even
talk to someone, because this is genuinely
a disgrace. I mean, I come from a military
family, everyone around me is military, and they’re
being shown this and told that it’s
great housing. What a shame and humiliation.
And at roughly the same time as this
report, Putin comes out and says that
Russia is, in fact, a completely separate
civilization. And everything here should
be built on high technology. 13
seconds. Russia is not just a country.
It truly is a separate civilization.
If we—if we want to preserve this
civilization, then of course we must place emphasis
specifically on high technology and on
its future development.
You see, not a country but a separate
civilization. Apparently this is our great
civilizational glue: putting people in
trailers. Foreign military personnel also sometimes live in trailers,
in combat zones,
of course. If you google how
American military personnel live in
Afghanistan, you will see exactly the same kind of
trailers that officers live in
in the settlement of Kalininets, Naro-Fominsk District,
Moscow Region. But there is still
a small difference between Afghanistan and
a combat zone, and the settlement of Kalininets. There is one,
and it is quite a big one. I mean,
this is just really, of course, absolutely
an utter, complete disgrace.
And at the end of the program I wanted to
tell you a story from the category of “we were
right.” It is very satisfying to say that,
because, because indeed we
were right. And even though only after
several years, you cannot say that
the truth has prevailed, because
there has been no happy ending so far,
but nevertheless I feel enormous,
enormous satisfaction from
telling you this story. Novaya
Gazeta published a major investigation.
Andrei Zayakin is the author, a person
who is a friend of the Anti-Corruption Foundation
and has done a lot together with
us, a terrific guy. He wrote about
the fact that the Attorney General
of Switzerland is now under threat of
resignation.
That is the preface.
Uh,
we at the Anti-Corruption Foundation
run into this quite often.
Naturally, the authorities are always
telling us that, well, our investigation is
nonsense, a hit job, and completely made up
and all that sort of thing. Well,
we know that our investigations are
absolutely real, well-founded, and
supported by all the documents. But the most
problematic part for us is when
we file complaints abroad somewhere, and there
nothing happens. And we, well, and everyone
around us sees that, ah, well, here there are
absolutely ironclad grounds. And here
the courts and the police and everyone else
refuse us. Well, because they are the same kind of
crooks and thieves. They obey those
crooks and thieves. But in such
cases we say: “Well, they refused us here, so we’ll
complain somewhere abroad, where
there are honest courts and prosecutors, and
there they’ll nail these people, crack down on them,
do all sorts of other things to them.” And
when that does not happen, the Kremlin
rejoices, shouts, squeals, chirps with delight
and says: “Ah, see, that means
they have no evidence at all,
they have nothing, because even in
such-and-such a country they refused to investigate
Navalny’s materials.” These are always very
unpleasant moments. And that is exactly what happened to us
with Switzerland and
Prosecutor General Chaika. Our first
major investigation, when we were just
starting to make investigative videos,
was Chaika. It is second by number of
views on our channel. I am not even in it
because back then I was still afraid
to appear on camera. Let’s watch 1 minute 49
seconds just to remind you of
the story. It is the story of the corrupt
prosecutor Chaika and his whole family. In
particular, there was a section about Artyom
Chaika and his business in Switzerland. One minute
forty-nine. In the documents appointing the president
of the hotel and the company that owns it,
it is stated that Artyom Chaika is the holder of a
Swiss identity card.
That means this person pays
taxes there, owns
real estate there, and lives there. We found
that property.
In Swiss registries, the son of
Russia’s Prosecutor General is listed as connected to this
small house on the shore of Lake Geneva.
And on the mailbox it says:
“Monsieur and Madame Chaika.” We checked
the land registry, but it turned out that this house
does not belong to Artyom’s family.
The practical purpose of this house, in
principle, is clear. It is not meant for
living there, but rather for, uh, building up
residency time, for some kind of official,
paperwork, for obtaining citizenship or something
else. And second, it is to have
a mailing address in Switzerland, where
the Swiss authorities could send
correspondence.
Obviously, the search had to continue
and that if Artyom Chaika had already decided
to tie his life to Switzerland, then
we needed to look for a house on a more prosecutor-general
scale. What gave us hope was the fact
that the small house whose mailbox
bore the name Chaika,
was owned by a certain
Lisurenko family. As it turned out, this family was
not random at all. Liliya Lisurenko
is a friend of the family of Deputy Prosecutor General Gennady
Lopatin. Artyom Chaika’s real house
was found practically around the corner, a couple
of kilometers from the house with the mailbox.
A year earlier, Artyom Chaika bought a mansion
for almost 3 million francs. That is about 3 million
dollars. Stylish modern housing,
a great terrace, you can put out a table and
drink tea overlooking Lake Geneva and
the Alps.
You see, Georgy Alburov was already
a brave guy back then and appeared on video, while I still
was afraid at the time. But in any case,
this story, this part of our
investigation into Chaika, was that
Artyom Chaika, who was 25 years old at the time,
and the son of the prosecutor general,
comes to Switzerland, brings with him
several million dollars, he
sets up companies, he buys
real estate; he brings the money in and keeps it
in bank accounts in Switzerland.
Go ahead, try opening
a bank account somewhere abroad,
and putting, I don’t know, $100,000
into it. They’ll say, "Are you out of your mind?"
Please explain where you got those
$100,000. But there, the prosecutor’s son,
a young guy with millions of dollars, is buying up everything,
and the Swiss don’t ask any
questions. So of course, rubbing our hands together, on December 8,
2015, we filed a complaint,
a huge, beautiful, magnificent
complaint with the Swiss prosecutor’s office.
And then on March 28, a few months later,
it turns out they reviewed it, but they would not open a case
because there were
various reasons. In particular, in Russia,
Russia does not recognize this as
a crime at all, so they cannot
investigate money laundering because
there was no crime in Russia. And so,
of course, all the Kremlin people are jumping for
joy. Prosecutor Chaika is probably
laughing his head off. His whole family
is celebrating. Everyone points at us and says, "So,
what now? All your, all your materials
turned out to be complete nonsense, because
the Swiss — honest, wonderful,
incorruptible Swiss — well, obviously
you were wrong there, ha-ha-ha. What, did Putin
pressure them? They refused because
your investigation is nonsense, because
you have no evidence at all." But
it turns out
that none of that was true at all, that in fact
our investigation, and many others
that were being done at the time into
corruption — the corruption of our fellow citizens
and their stolen money in Switzerland —
were entirely real. It’s just that, uh,
the Prosecutor General’s Office, and really the Russian mafia as a whole,
had set up an effective system of bribery,
entertainment, and generally some kind of
integration of all
those Swiss prosecutors into their own corruption.
That is exactly what *Novaya Gazeta* published an investigation about.
They describe there
how the attorney general,
whom you see — no, that’s not him in the
picture — I mean Michael Lauber,
who came to Moscow, and his
assistants — they would simply arrive and then be
entertained. They were taken hunting in
Irkutsk Region, which, incidentally,
is where Prosecutor General Chaika himself is from. They were taken
on another hunting trip. Then one of the assistants to this
attorney general
comes over, supposedly
to do some shooting somewhere outside Moscow, but
they put him on a plane, then on a helicopter,
and fly him to Kamchatka. And there they
have fun and shoot. There was even
a special deputy prosecutor general for this,
Saak Karapetyan. But
may he rest in peace. He, incidentally, also
died in a helicopter crash during
an illegal hunting trip. Bring back that photo
from the boat. Here they are cruising
on Lake Baikal. Sitting on one knee there
is the attorney general of Switzerland. And
the third person from the right or left — well,
anyway, the guy with the blurred
face, the one being hugged next to him — that is
Deputy Prosecutor General Saak
Karapetyan, who was specifically responsible for
corrupting and entertaining this whole
Swiss, well, gang, because
it was exactly the same kind of gang. And, uh, in
order to, well, repay
the hospitality, perhaps they provided
some other services as well. We don’t know that yet,
but what is plainly obvious is that there were some
corrupt ties, and lavish,
expensive gifts. There’s one very funny,
well, funny detail. *Novaya Gazeta* also writes about it.
In 2017, this
Lauber received from Russian prosecutors
a dinner set as a gift. And this set was
so large that for several years
it was kept at the embassy; for several months
they couldn’t take it away, because, well, I
don’t know — it’s hard for me to imagine
how big a dinner set would have to be
if you simply can’t send it
as luggage or by mail to Switzerland, but it
must have been the size of a room. I mean,
I don’t know what kind of set it was, but that’s
the kind of relationship they had.
And at the same time, Switzerland was not
pursuing cases. Take our case about
Artyom Lopatin, Artyom Chaika, and
Lopatin. Same thing. Remember there was
Agriculture Minister Skrynnik,
who was accused here in Russia,
and who — well, this is a proven fact —
stole several million — several tens of
millions of dollars, laundered them in
Switzerland. She should have been held
accountable. And the case was closed.
In fact, the Magnitsky case was also
closed, and no one understood what
was going on. Why was Switzerland
somehow, well, unwilling to investigate any of this?
Why were these supposedly strict
German-speaking prosecutors like this? When this
Michael Lauber himself came,
we picketed the Swiss embassy.
We had special — you can see them —
placards in German,
and placards in English. Well,
because we were outraged. At the time I gave
many interviews to Swiss media and
said, "How can this be? That prosecutor’s office of yours
is supposed to — you can see it there,
another placard near the Swiss embassy —
it is supposed to investigate." This is very
important. Of course, we believe that your
the prosecutors were supposedly very honest and decent, while at the same time
these supposedly honest and decent
prosecutors were hanging out
on hunting trips with our crooks.
They were drinking with them, taking part in
completely illegal poaching
hunts, traveling all over the country,
accepting enormous dinner sets as gifts.
So anyway, right now in
Switzerland, proceedings are underway in which
the attorney general of
Switzerland, this distinguished gentleman
with his impressive gray hair, may, I hope,
be impeached, but in any case
there is already no doubt whatsoever
that this is how, guys, the export of
corruption works: the Russian
Prosecutor General’s Office somehow managed
to corrupt the leadership
of an entire country’s law enforcement system.
Just step by step: a hunting trip, then
something else, then something else. And
the most important cases, which had enormous
impact in our country — like the
Magnitsky case. Possibly the biggest,
the most important case in terms of how
deeply it left its mark on the political history
of our country. All of this — the
Magnitsky Act, the sanctions over
Magnitsky, the “Scoundrels’ Law” (a mocking name for Russia’s Dima Yakovlev law banning U.S. adoptions), and so
on — this is a huge story that
had a massive effect on everyone, on
the whole course of our country. And yet
the Swiss turned a blind eye to it.
Why? Because they were taken bear hunting.
Because they were taken to shoot
ducks somewhere around Kaliningrad. Not in
Kaliningrad itself — somewhere, uh,
well, in Yaroslavl Region, where
the hunting is good. They were taken there,
that’s how it worked. That’s how the whole thing is set up.
But as you can see, in Switzerland
this process is underway, and we’ve already learned
a lot. Maybe one day we’ll learn
even more. And when, at last,
the Beautiful Russia of the Future arrives,
I think there could be parallel
trials: in Russia, we will
try and imprison all the Chaikas (a reference to Prosecutor General Yury Chaika and his family), while in Switzerland
they will try and imprison all those
crooks who were funneling money to the Chaikas.
And as I wrap up this program, I want
to show you
a wonderful video. At the end of every
program I tell you: let’s
vote against United Russia, because
it’s very important, because it is
bad. Because it is awful. And here is
a 58-second video that you can basically
just send to your relatives,
friends, grandmothers — anyone, really — those
people who love Putin. It’s
extremely eloquent. Doctors in
Lipetsk — medical workers in Lipetsk — are also
complaining that they are not being paid those
Putin bonus payments. United Russia,
the United Russia party, responded to
the fact that doctors were not receiving the bonuses
by sending them, uh, material aid. In other words,
a decision was made to provide doctors with
material assistance. What does
material assistance from the ruling party
of our country look like?
Today the ambulance staff were given a food package.
Lipetsk. From United Russia. This is
instead of 25,000 rubles
— or for 25,000? You still can’t quite
figure it out.
Maybe 20,000, maybe 25,000.
There are five ingredients here. Each one is worth
5,000.
Tea: 5,000. 5,000.
One, two, three, four — yes, five ingredients.
Each one is 5,000.
The bread rings are 5,000. Yeah.
When else in your life are you going to eat a chocolate bar worth
5,000? No, don’t. This isn’t United Russia.
You need to set the spoon aside over there.
Come on, scoop out the spoons.
Open the tea bags — the money must be
inside.
Oh, come on, really?
So how much is in here?
Well, count it. 5,000. Tea alone is 5,000.
These things are 5,000. Damn. Oh, Vladimir
Vladimirovich, we don’t need money. Just
send us another food package like this
and that’ll do. We don’t need money at all.
They promised 25,000 in COVID bonus payments, but they didn’t even give them that,
and instead they sent a handful
of bread rings, some tea bags, and three oatmeal
cookies. It’s a perfect metaphor for what
is happening in Russia as a whole, when
instead of our share of the nation’s
wealth, instead of our part in
the wealth of our economy, we receive
exactly this: a handful of bread rings and three
oatmeal cookies. We will not put up with
this, and we will fight this system until
we make it at least
a little more just. Thank you very
much to everyone who watched. I’ll see
you next Thursday. Please excuse
the technical interruptions.
We hope that next time we’ll
come up with something clever and they won’t be able
to block us. Bye.
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