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Hello everyone. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, which means

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that we're live in the Navalny LIVE studio. I'm Alexei

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Navalny, here to discuss with you

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the latest news of the day.

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My nickname today is Alexei

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Navalny, or "a serious man," as

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Alexander Rumyantsev called me,

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the co-chair of Vladimir Putin's campaign.

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You see, sometimes you can even get a bit of

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praise from these people.

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Let me remind you that you can ask questions

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on Twitter. Please send them

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using the hashtag #Navalny2018, and I

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will read them and answer them. And I

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also remind you that today's broadcast—

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today's broadcast—

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we're continuing to raise money.

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I thun—

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Well, that was a tense moment in

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today's broadcast. We're continuing to raise funds

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for a new drone, one that will replace

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our Volodya, this very one

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that brought a lot of joy to all

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Russian citizens and a lot of frustration

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to various officials, because we filmed

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all of them with Volodya. But now it's become obsolete,

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so we need a new drone

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that can fly farther in order

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to overcome all sorts of

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barriers and obstacles that they keep putting up

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farther and farther out around the perimeter

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of the properties they guard, which for us are simply

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of course just sites

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where crooks have invested their money. Let me

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remind you that the grand prize goes to the person

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who donates the largest amount

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toward our new drone. We need to raise

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a total of 450,000 rubles (about $7,700 at the time).

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The grand prize is that the drone will be named after

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that person. And right now the standings are as follows:

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In third place we have user

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dimon, who donated 8,500 rubles, and for now

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is in line to receive our branded hat from

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our store.

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In second place is Kirill Yudin with 10,000; he'll get

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a hoodie.

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And in first place, with 18,200

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rubles, is the user named Trump.

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So based on the current standings,

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most likely the new drone we're raising money for

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will be named Trump. But then,

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what is, in fact, the main

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political news? What's happening in

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the country? And the answer, of course,

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is that in the country

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there are these frantic

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truly frantic attempts

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to come up with something to boost voter turnout,

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because the election itself isn't visible

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in the form of debates, or political discussion,

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or really in any form at all—nothing

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shows up in the media or anywhere else. And all

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week we've seen only news about how

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the Kremlin decided to lure us to

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the polls. And a very funny article came out in

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the publication RBC, where they fairly

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thoroughly described the mechanisms

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Kiriyenko came up with in order to

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draw people to the election. They include

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actual contests, actual

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some kind of

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entertainment—really, it's very funny. Among

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the things mentioned is one

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called "Big Family Games."

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"Photo at the Election" is actually

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a selfie contest: we're supposed to come vote,

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take pictures, and through a fairly

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large and complicated selection system, there will be

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winners. There will also be school referendums.

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I have no idea what schoolchildren will be

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deciding in those referendums—what decisions they'll make.

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Maybe they'll pretend to remove principals and appoint

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someone else in their place: "Let's appoint

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the gym teacher instead." But I think the Kremlin is ready

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to go that far in order to solve the turnout

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problem. There's even some contest

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called "Star Voters"—I don't really

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understand it. Besides that, yesterday the outlet Mediazona

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reported that referendums

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really will happen, and they published

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information saying that in

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the Maryino district, my home district,

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a decision has been made that there will be

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a referendum held simultaneously with

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the presidential election on merging

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the Lyublino and Maryino districts. It all sounds

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very strange, but it basically

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confirms everything that, quite recently,

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Yevgeny Roizman, the mayor of Yekaterinburg,

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told us when he said that the authorities care about nothing

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except turnout, turnout alone. And to boost

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turnout they'll resort to all kinds of

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exotic methods, including

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referendums.

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Some people doubted it, but it's obvious

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that Roizman was telling the truth. Let's listen to 40 seconds

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of him to remind ourselves

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what he told us: direct instructions

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have been given to ensure the maximum possible

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participation in President Putin's election and

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to guarantee maximum turnout.

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As of today,

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the main task is turnout. Here, as I understand it,

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they are planning to hold

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a referendum—that is, they'll launch, they'll start pushing

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a referendum on whether to remove

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the Lenin monument from 1905 Square (a central square in Yekaterinburg). Let me tell

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you one more serious thing: all

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financial-industrial groups have been given

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well, let's say, instructions—wishes

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that are more serious than instructions—

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to collect signatures. They will be collecting signatures

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here in the region

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for Putin and Sobchak.

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They will be collecting signatures for two candidates.

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Signatures. I think all of this

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is not enough. But it's not enough simply to have

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referendums and some kind of flashy contest.

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Electoral, in fact—here's what I want to say.

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While I have the chance, since I'm sure

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the Presidential Administration is watching our

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wonderful program—maybe they'll even

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show a clip of it to Putin—guys, I'll

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tell you how to solve your problems. I

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know: you're just out of touch with ordinary people and don't

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remember what kinds of contests actually

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get people going—get the whole country going. So,

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a selfie contest? That's ridiculous.

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Let's think about it together: every one of us

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has been to a contest, and it's the kind of contest that

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you remember for years. It's

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of course not some selfie contest—it's

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wedding games.

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That's the country's main entertainment genre.

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I'm more than sure that

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the overwhelming majority of viewers

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have been to weddings, and when the tamada (wedding host) there

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announces a game, everyone just

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tenses up like this and thinks, "Dear God,

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dear God, please, anything but

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me—just don't drag me out there right now

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to take part in this game." That's

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what we need. I think that at every

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polling station, Putin personally,

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Kiriyenko, and all the others should

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organize games like that, and the entire

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election process—the whole election process—

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should be organized exactly

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like those games are run.

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Then turnout would rise. For example, why drop

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your ballot in like this—pull out a boring

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piece of paper and put it in the ballot box—when, like in a game,

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this is how we ought to

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vote.

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Come on, admit it—that looks much

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cooler. And how much more interesting it would be for observers

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to count. They can count it, but if it's done this

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way...

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Still, holding a piece of paper like that isn't very

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convenient. There's another well-known method of

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voting that we can borrow from a

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wedding.

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The pencil-in-the-bottle game—it's just

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a classic. Every one of us has seen it, every

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one of us still breaks out in red blotches

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from sheer, horrible embarrassment

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that we saw it and can never

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unsee it. And at polling stations, that's exactly what we should see,

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precisely that, because these

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games

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that we all feel ashamed of in front of each other

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are very close in spirit to these elections,

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because these elections are themselves a shameful spectacle.

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This whole inflating of turnout—what

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the Presidential Administration is doing—is

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turnout inflation.

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And weddings—weddings in particular—best of all

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show us how they manufacture turnout.

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See? That's exactly what's

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happening: on one chair, Putin,

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on the other, Medvedev—they jump, jump,

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jump, inflating turnout, and then—bang—

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the climax, it explodes, and Putin once again

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becomes president. Great, right? That

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would attract people to the election, it would attract them.

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And in general, the whole election process—

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why is it so boring if we have such

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great weddings?

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If we're talking about debates, then let's

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remember the famous game that I'm sure everyone

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knows—the famous contest of who can

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do it faster, or rather, how the debaters can pop

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a balloon. That's what I think

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the debates between Sobchak and Grudinin should

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look like.

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And

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prize.

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You admit that I'm right—just

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admit that no selfie contests,

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none of those little gimmicks they've

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come up with, can replace this.

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That's all. Listen, just now it was

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announced last week that the Moscow

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Regional Election Commission

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had purchased some keychains, pencils, and

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notebooks for 236 million

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rubles (about 2.6 million USD).

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Why? Why is any of this necessary? We're throwing away

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huge amounts of money, hoping that

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people will come not for a notebook,

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but for a balloon, and for candidates

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who, like at a wedding, enter into debate using

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a balloon—and then people will go

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to the polling stations, and those will be real elections

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for Vladimir Putin. Beautiful—and, by the way,

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as you've probably heard or read

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in the newspapers, this is an official instruction

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from the Presidential Administration:

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to make sure there is

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a festive atmosphere at polling stations. I think our

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wedding traditions would create exactly that kind of

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atmosphere. Besides all that, the referendum

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I already mentioned—I personally

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am baffled, because

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it has been announced that in Maryino

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there will be, in Maryino and Lyublino, a

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referendum on merging these districts.

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Well, apart from the fact that substantively it's

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meaningless even to discuss this—it would create some kind of

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super-district with a population of 500,000

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people—

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the question arises: how are they going to lure people

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with the idea of such a referendum?

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I don't really understand what the residents of Maryino

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Sure, but they have to rush in order

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to vote for the merger

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of the districts, or conversely to vote against

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the merger of the districts. And probably

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the only thing one can assume is that

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they’ll simply start intimidating election officials.

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So Zinaida Petrovna will be saying in

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her news feed, can you imagine:

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“Those bastards have called a referendum — the liberals

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have called a referendum, they want to merge

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our districts, and our local clinic

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and move Mariinskaya somewhere else, or vice versa.”

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And so we have to go out and vote,

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because otherwise, can you imagine,

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we’ll have to take the bus just to get to the clinic.

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Right, that’s true. And as far as we understand,

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at the moment, based on whatever

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inside information there is from government

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agencies, such referendums are being planned

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across the country and all over Moscow.

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They just want to announce them and

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present it to us as, “Folks, you’re going to have

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a referendum directly in March.”

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Which, by the way, is very interesting, because

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a referendum is practically such a

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prohibitive procedure — to hold one,

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you have to collect votes,

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signatures from 5 percent of the residents of that

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locality — here, of the districts — and that’s

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simply unrealistic, can you imagine?

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There, within some compressed time frame, in a month,

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to collect signatures from 5 percent of residents

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and to do it secretly from us as well, so that

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then directly in March they can say, “Oh, there will be

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a referendum, they collected the signatures.”

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Well, it’s obvious that this will be a gigantic

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fraud, a massive forgery of those very

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signatures. So anyone who knows how

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this is being prepared, please send us tips,

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and we will do our best

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to catch these crooks. But apparently, yes,

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come on, he’s right — this will happen all over the country,

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and they’ll try to deceive us.

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The idea of, “Well then, let’s

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take part in referendums,” has produced a lot

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of amusement. I saw on social media — after

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that article in Mediazona (an independent Russian outlet), several

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tweets really drew attention to genuinely

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great ideas.

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For example, people think that, well, if we’re going

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to hold a referendum, then let’s hold

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a referendum on real issues,

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not on merging districts. For example,

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Samara and Saratov — let’s hold

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a referendum on renaming and

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merging Samara, Saratov, and Saransk

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so that

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first, we change the name, and second,

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we combine them into one region. For example, you could

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merge Marino and Maryina Roshcha (Moscow districts with similar-sounding names).

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Okay, okay, I see the progress bar on my jokes

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has stopped because we just held — let me

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clarify — am I right in understanding that we

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raised the money for our drone? Apparently the fact

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that it flew into the frame here made

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such a huge impression. Am I understanding

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that correctly?

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We got a donation of 30,000 rubles (about 300 euros / 325 US dollars). What’s the name of this

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person? There wasn’t one? Well okay, our new drone

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will be — hooray. I mean, I’m incredibly happy. It’s a

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strange name for a drone: Nebula.

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But the thing is that some person just

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made a one-time donation of 30,000

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rubles (about 300 euros / 325 US dollars), if I understand correctly.

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The investors are proposing to name the drone

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in honor of the newest blac chyna oblacheno — I don’t

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know what that means.

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I assume that somewhere some crafty people

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decided to advertise themselves this way,

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but one way or another, we raised the money.

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In accordance, in full accordance with

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our promise, the new drone will be

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named Nebula.

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Maybe in some strange

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language it’s a terrible swear word, or if you

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read it backwards it turns into

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“Glory to Putin,”

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or some kind of abbreviation, but in any

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case, the successor to our Volodya will be Nebula.

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So, I congratulate the winner — get in touch

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with us then.

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Accordingly, Trump gets

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our signature hoodie, and Kirill Yudin gets

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a branded hat. Guys, thank you

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so much to everyone who took part in raising money

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for the drone. It’s not about the prizes — it’s about

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the fact that this is our solidarity, this is our response

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to the authorities. Together we’ll raise money for new drones

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and keep filming.

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Alborov is sitting right here. It’s a pity that you

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can’t see how happy — happy, very

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very joyful — he is that there’s money for

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a super-drone. Which exact drone it is, you can

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read about on his Twitter — he explains it there in detail.

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He writes about it there. Let’s get back to the referendums.

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So yes, you could merge Samara and Saratov,

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you could, for example, merge Marino and Maryina

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Roshcha so that no one gets confused. Well,

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in the end, one of the

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users on Twitter also pointed

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out that you could hold a referendum on

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moving

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Kotelnicheskaya Embankment and the high-rise on

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Kotelnicheskaya to the Kotelniki district.

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The joke is only clear to Muscovites (residents of Moscow), but

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it actually shows very well

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what these referendums really are.

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But I’d suggest taking a really hard-line approach altogether:

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if we want a referendum and we want everyone

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to show up, let’s announce a referendum on

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mandatory same-sex marriage, and then people

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will come out, and you can also say, can you

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imagine:

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“The liberals secretly collected signatures with the

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help of the U.S. State Department and want to hold

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a referendum, and there will be mandatory

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same-sex marriages — all the men will be

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counted up and married off to other men.”

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And the only way to stop this

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is that all across the country there will be a rallying cry, and Putin will

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be shouting, "Vote for me"

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and also, go to the polling stations and make sure

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that we don't end up marrying men off to other men anymore

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and then men will go, and

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men and women and everyone else will go

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And honestly, jokes aside, I

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have no doubt that something like this

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some hellish thing, like "you want to take Lenin out of

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the Mausoleum" (Lenin's tomb on Red Square)

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or something along those lines, they will definitely

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use it, because they have no

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other way, simply no other

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way to lure people to these elections

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because the elections are a complete sham. By the way,

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have you noticed that almost

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nowhere are there any opinion polls? Usually

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before elections we're flooded with

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ratings, this rating, that rating, look

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at the ratings

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Why are they doing this? Because, well,

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obviously fake, fake

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ratings—no one would believe them, while publishing

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the real ratings would show people

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the lay of the land in advance

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After all, the Presidential Administration

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put together this lineup of candidates

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and created a situation in which Putin

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is guaranteed to get his 70-plus

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percent, because the other candidates

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aren't doing anything and aren't capable

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of gaining any votes. So we—I

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just want to announce to you that the Anti-Corruption Foundation

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(FBK)

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and our voter strike штаб are starting

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to conduct weekly nationwide

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opinion polls. You remember that

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experience has repeatedly confirmed that

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our opinion polls are the most accurate

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We have a methodology, and we absolutely

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do not lie about the results, and we

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will be doing this every week—

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a nationwide poll, and I will publish its results

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right here in this program

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So every week, through this program, you

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will get the best-quality

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polling data. We need volunteers who

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will take part in this. We already have quite

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a lot of people who are ready to conduct surveys in the

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evenings, but since we also need to survey

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the country's Far East, we need people

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who are ready to work

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and help us. We'll teach you everything, and

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we especially need help in the first half of the day. And if anyone in

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Moscow wants to take part in this very

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important work, please come by if you have questions

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to our штаб at 13 Vostochnaya Street

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It's open daily from 11:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.

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18 minutes

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Come by, they'll talk with you there, and we

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will figure out when it's more convenient for you to work. We will

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teach you everything and send you to the call center

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where, in good company, you will

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take part in conducting surveys. I also

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go there quite often and also

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take part in these surveys, and we will

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tell you about the candidates' ratings

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By the way, we keep talking about the elections, the elections,

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the choice, the candidates—what has been happening with the

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candidates over the last

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week, over the last two weeks? Because

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during an election campaign, and during its

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official phase, there are two especially

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intense moments. The last super-

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intense moment is those two or

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three weeks before the end of the election

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campaign—there should be debates, there should

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be heavy advertising, and in general the candidates

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should be working themselves to exhaustion

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But in a sense, an even more

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important moment is now, when candidates

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have to collect signatures. Exempt from collecting signatures

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are, in our case—who is it?

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Grudinin, as the candidate of a parliamentary party, and

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Zhirinovsky—they do not have to collect

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signatures. All the other candidates, including

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Putin, and first and foremost Putin, they

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are actually supposed to

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collect signatures. Some need 100,000

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—Yavlinsky, Sobchak, Titov

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some need 300,000—Putin, and then there

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will apparently also be a couple of self-nominated candidates

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I look at this and I'm amazed. In our case,

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starting from January 2,

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I and my entire штаб would have gone into

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you know,

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a mode like a hysterical squirrel—you've probably seen those

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pictures on the internet, those squirrels

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jumping around a tree screaming, "Oh my God,

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this is a disaster, it's a tree, a leaf, a leaf,

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it's a leaf, we have to do something!" Because

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collecting signatures is very hard. We

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spent a year building the system

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for a year; we have штабы in 84 regions. We

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understood that as soon as the official

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signature collection began, we would

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be catastrophically short on time. It's very

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expensive, very difficult, and during

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this program I wouldn't be fooling around with a drone

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named Vova or whatever they were going to call

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our next drone. I would simply, every

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second, be saying: guys, come

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and give signatures, we need them. In Moscow we've

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already collected them, in St. Petersburg we've collected them, come in

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Lipetsk, come in Oryol

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It would be super-intensive work

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—the very reason we built this whole network. And

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just look at how these guys

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are collecting signatures. It gives the impression

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that, I don't know, kind little gnomes are

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doing it for them. These candidates, you know, they

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sit there with cigars

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and basically do nothing. They don't write

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these appeals on social media, they

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don't travel around, they don't hold any rallies. As for

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Putin,

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an astonishing thing has happened with him

21:59

In various shopping malls, some kind of

22:02

booths have appeared, set up at different spots.

22:06

There are some boys and girls standing there, and the entire

22:08

internet is full of accounts showing that

22:10

if you stand in front of one of these booths, you

22:12

will see that over the course of an hour, two or three

22:13

people come up to it. So, signatures are not exactly being

22:15

collected

22:16

in any serious numbers. The others are not really doing it at all.

22:19

From that point of view, they are doing nothing. And yet,

22:21

this is an enormous, extremely intensive job. I

22:25

do not understand how this is happening, and I want

22:28

to tell you once again: I know that

22:31

the candidates get offended by what I say, but I want

22:34

to say that, of course, all the signatures they

22:38

take to the Central Election Commission

22:39

(Russia’s federal election authority) will, of course, be fake, and

22:41

we can see that this is exactly what is happening.

22:43

It is impossible to collect them, have them notarized,

22:46

have the signature gatherers certified, get all these

22:49

papers properly filled out,

22:51

distribute them across the country, fill them in,

22:55

sort through them, stitch them together, check every

22:57

signature, cross out the invalid ones, and send them off

22:59

here. We have done this many times. It is a very, very

23:04

complicated job. But nobody is really

23:06

doing it at all. Where are all these candidates? When I

23:09

hear that Yabloko (a Russian liberal political party) has already said that

23:12

they have supposedly collected 70 percent or

23:14

60 percent of the signatures—how did you

23:18

manage to do that in such a way that

23:20

literally no one in the country even noticed?

23:23

Without any real launch, without any visible campaign

23:25

effort. And of course, from the standpoint of

23:29

active participation in collecting signatures,

23:32

the person who probably surprised us most this week was, of course,

23:35

Ksenia Sobchak.

23:37

This made an impression on our campaign headquarters,

23:40

in particular because Ksenia is supposed to be

23:45

actively collecting signatures right now, and instead she

23:47

went off—I do not know to collect signatures or to

23:49

do whatever it is people do in Bali—and

23:51

here you can see photos from Instagram:

23:53

some hotel marked in red,

23:55

some corporate event there, maybe Anatoly is hosting it,

23:57

or maybe he is not hosting it,

23:59

but in any case, a candidate who

24:02

says, “Guys, I am

24:03

an opposition representative, I am running in these

24:05

elections,” during the most crucial and

24:08

very short period allotted for collecting

24:10

signatures, went off to Bali. But in fact,

24:13

the issue is not really Ksenia. After all, these

24:15

seriously—did we really expect

24:18

some different vision or format

24:19

for an election campaign? It is just that

24:21

her trip to Bali specifically made me think of

24:23

something. Do you remember that

24:26

hashtag—I cannot quite say it outright here—“fairytale Bali,”

24:30

I will not pronounce it as one word. It was a well-known

24:33

internet meme; everyone remembers it.

24:35

Some girl went to Bali and posted

24:38

beautiful photos of herself there, on the waves,

24:40

with her hair flowing and all that, and she

24:42

decided to use the hashtag “fairytale Bali,” but

24:45

the girl made a rather unfortunate mistake—she did not think it through—and

24:48

put the two words together, and I

24:51

thought: you know, this is actually

24:55

the universal hashtag for what is happening

24:58

in these elections. You only need to add

25:00

a little something to it: a fairytale

25:04

screw-over of all Russian voters—and I apologize, but I

25:07

could not resist. It was just sitting there

25:11

in my head, and I thought I had to

25:12

say it to all of you. That is exactly what is connected with

25:16

elections in Russia. So there is no need to

25:19

go to them if you do not want to be treated the way

25:22

that Bali meme implied.

25:25

There is no need to go there—it is shameful and disgraceful.

25:29

Why do it? Why take part in this

25:33

campaign, where Putin is guaranteed 70

25:36

percent, and all the other candidates are, well,

25:38

busy with things like this? Do we want

25:41

to be part of all this? No, we do not.

25:43

That is why I urge you to continue

25:47

demanding real elections, to continue

25:51

demanding that your voting rights be returned to you.

25:54

That means you need to take part

25:56

in our

25:58

voters’ strike by every means possible.

26:01

Simply—just encourage people not to

26:04

go.

26:04

Do whatever you can, whatever is possible,

26:08

to make sure that no one goes to

26:10

the elections. Take part in our rally

26:12

on January 28. In the description to this video there is

26:16

a link—go there, find your city, and

26:19

come to the demonstration. This is not a rally for

26:21

Navalny’s registration anymore; that is no longer the point.

26:24

This is a rally to demand that our

26:27

political rights be returned to us. It is a rally for the idea

26:29

that we must be reckoned with. It is a rally for the idea

26:32

that we are not prepared to call this

26:35

a presidential election, and that we are fully

26:37

ready for there to be real

26:41

elections, real candidates, real

26:44

debates that would take place over

26:46

a substantial period of time, and for there to be

26:48

candidates who would fight for our

26:50

votes. We refuse to take part in this,

26:52

and every single person can

26:55

make their contribution to this voters’ strike.

26:57

And listen, if they

26:59

are hanging all this nonsense up in

27:02

every apartment building entrance—you have seen those

27:05

logos,

27:06

the Central Election Commission (CEC) leaflets and papers saying

27:10

“everyone, come vote”—they are going to do repeated door-to-door canvassing,

27:12

they are going to go apartment by apartment twice over,

27:15

and your building entrance,

27:17

your school, your university, your

27:20

institution—everything will be plastered with this

27:24

filth. Of course they will spend billions of rubles

27:26

on it: “come vote, come to

27:29

the elections.” Well, if they are sticking it up in your building,

27:31

take a marker and write over it

27:34

whatever you want. If it is hanging there, or if it is in

27:37

your school or university, then take out a pen and

27:39

Write that too—tear it down, we need to fight against

27:42

them. Water doesn’t flow under a lying stone (meaning: nothing happens unless you take action).

27:44

I can’t directly call on you, I don’t know,

27:47

to damage any large structures,

27:49

because someone could already

27:50

interpret that as causing damage to property.

27:53

There are billboards up, though—for example, in the city of

27:55

St. Petersburg,

27:57

the Central Election

27:58

Commission put up this thing at

28:01

the entrance to the city of St. Petersburg, and then,

28:03

a couple of days later, someone wrote on it:

28:05

"Strike on January 28." Well done.

28:09

Well done, people of St. Petersburg—whoever did that.

28:12

That’s exactly how this should be fought, and there’s no need

28:14

to consider it vandalism. These crooks take

28:17

our money in order to advertise

28:19

this fake thing they call

28:22

elections. This cannot be tolerated; this

28:23

must be fought with all our strength.

28:26

Everyone, please take part. So, I’ve

28:29

gotten carried away and haven’t been answering your questions.

28:32

Sorry. I’m opening the feed with the hashtag

28:33

#Normal2018. I’ve received a huge number of

28:37

messages about some kind of campaign

28:39

called Flowers for the Police. Everyone is asking me about

28:41

it, and I don’t know what it is.

28:43

But after this broadcast I’ll look into it, and on

28:46

the next program I’ll tell you what

28:48

Flowers for the Police is. For now, I don’t know.

28:50

Alexander Lyapin, alright, I see it—I’ll say it.

28:54

Use the hashtag #FairytalePain.

28:56

Tell us about the preparation of lawsuits

28:58

to the district court and, above all, to the

29:00

Constitutional Court. We are preparing them, yes.

29:02

These are almost unrelated processes. I am supposed

29:04

to be in Strasbourg on January 24, and I will be there

29:07

speaking before the Grand Chamber on my

29:09

case concerning administrative detentions. There

29:11

the question will be decided whether they should be recognized as

29:14

political or non-political, but

29:16

this is not connected with the elections and not connected with

29:18

my being barred from them, actually.

29:20

Really, let’s close this topic: no

29:22

European Court or European Union is going to help

29:24

us achieve normal elections. Only

29:26

we ourselves can do that. We will go through all these legal

29:29

steps, but there’s no need to

29:31

[music]

29:33

pay too much attention to it. Here, Yozhkin

29:36

writes angrily: are you going to answer questions today

29:38

or not? Well, I am answering. So—Flowers

29:40

for the Police, Flowers for the Police—everyone is

29:44

asking about it nonstop.

29:47

And how do we fight fraud if one

29:49

person can go around 10 polling stations and

29:50

cast votes, and what if there are 250 such people?

29:53

How do we fight turnout falsification? We won’t

29:55

be able to remember each and every one. Thank you.

29:56

Jeffrey, that’s exactly what distinguishes our

29:59

strike from a simple boycott. It’s not just

30:02

about not going to the elections—we will try to deploy

30:05

a huge number of

30:07

observers. And when I say huge,

30:09

I really mean

30:11

tens of thousands. Our election-monitoring

30:14

movements, various parties, and candidates

30:16

have done this many times, but honestly,

30:18

let’s be clear: no one has ever

30:20

simultaneously deployed an effective,

30:22

coordinated force of more than, say, 7,000

30:24

observers—8,000 at most, maybe 10,000. And if they were deployed,

30:28

it was mainly in Moscow and

30:30

St. Petersburg, first and foremost Moscow.

30:33

In the city center, we know there were as many as 8

30:35

observers at a polling station, while on the

30:37

outskirts there were far fewer. We will be

30:39

covering Bashkortostan (a republic in Russia) with observers,

30:42

Tatarstan (a republic in Russia),

30:44

Dagestan (a republic in Russia), Mordovia (a republic in Russia)—the regions where

30:48

lawlessness is happening. So that is exactly how

30:50

we will resist. We are

30:53

boycotting the election, and we are taking part in

30:55

the strike, but that does not mean that we

30:57

have shut our eyes and are doing nothing. We

30:59

are monitoring this process, we are watching

31:02

it, we are commenting on how it unfolds, we

31:05

are mocking it, and we are deploying

31:08

observers in order to

31:09

control it. That is absolutely essential. So,

31:13

Flowers for the Police—well, I don’t know what

31:16

the Flowers for the Police campaign is, but its

31:18

organizers can definitely

31:20

mobilize a fairly large

31:22

number of people.

31:25

Because everything here is simply flooded with

31:27

questions about Flowers for the Police. Trooper Harley

31:30

asks me: how do you

31:31

comment on the rumors that

31:32

Putin has long been dead and the country

31:35

is being ruled by his clones?

31:36

Well, I’ve seen the same very funny

31:39

compilations about there being different Putins, but

31:41

of course he’s not any kind of clone—that’s the real

31:43

Putin, actually. It’s just that he seems to me

31:46

to have gotten a little too carried away

31:48

with plastic surgery, and it may not

31:51

have gone especially well for him,

31:53

but there are no clones there. It’s really

31:56

the actual Putin himself.

31:58

Islam Yusupov: my mom at work—she’s

32:01

a teacher—at a staff meeting they were handing out

32:02

leaflets that said, ‘We are for

32:04

Putin.’ The principal said, ‘You must

32:06

sign this.’ They replied, ‘What if we don’t want

32:08

to sign it?’ He answered, ‘It’s already all been

32:11

decided for you.’ Khasavyurt, Republic of Dagestan.

32:13

Islam, well, the boss has decided that

32:16

everything has been decided for you—you’re for Putin. But

32:19

if the teachers say, ‘We don’t want

32:21

to sign this,’ and the answer they get is, ‘It’s been decided

32:23

for you,’

32:23

well then, if it’s decided, it’s decided—take your leaflet back.

32:25

Hand the leaflet back.

32:27

There’s no need to argue with the boss. Just

32:29

tell the other teachers—let your mother simply

32:31

say:

32:32

‘Oh, if that’s how it is, then we won’t go, then we…’

32:34

We'll tell our neighbors that we won't go.

32:37

Then I'll ask my son Islam

32:39

to come to the polling station and observe how many

32:43

people showed up. But we've seen this happen in Dagestan (a republic in southern Russia), too.

32:45

It happened there, and we did the same thing quite

32:47

recently in Tatarstan (a republic in Russia), when there were

32:49

referendums there. I talked about this

32:50

on the program. At the polling stations where we

32:52

placed observers, turnout was 20

32:55

percent, 15 percent, 10 percent, while

32:57

where there were no observers, it was again 85

32:59

or 95. So there's no need—well, not always a need—

33:05

to enter into direct confrontation unnecessarily.

33:07

You don't need to grab a boss, take away leaflets, or throw them

33:09

in his face. He's exactly the same; he's not for

33:11

Putin either. You just need to quietly and persistently

33:14

do your job: don't go, campaign,

33:17

observe. Well, and maybe flowers for

33:21

the police. Sergey writes, clarifying that it is not

33:23

the rally participants on January 28 who want

33:26

to give flowers to police officers

33:28

to show their peaceful intentions.

33:30

What do you think, Alexei?

33:33

Well, I think that's normal, and

33:36

these kinds of actions have taken place everywhere.

33:38

They've happened in many countries; it's one

33:40

of the more common flash mobs

33:45

during peaceful demonstrations, when

33:46

the authorities are trying to prove that

33:49

the demonstrators are villains from the outset, while

33:51

we, on the contrary, give flowers to the police. You just

33:54

have to be prepared for the fact that, of course,

33:55

the authorities—as on the Maidan (the 2013–2014 protest movement in Ukraine)—

33:58

did the same thing, and Ukrainians did the same, and

34:00

Serbs did the same, and in Egypt the same

34:02

thing was done too.

34:03

But in any case, you'll say, well,

34:04

overall it's not a bad action. Right now more than a hundred

34:08

cities are taking part in the January 28 action.

34:10

Once again, you can find the link in the description

34:11

and check it out. If in some cities this

34:15

can still be organized, it's still a good

34:16

idea. It's peaceful, it's a good idea, kind and

34:19

sweet. What do you think about the gambling

34:22

business in Moscow? Well, I think the gambling

34:24

business exists, despite claims that it was shut down.

34:26

We were told that it

34:28

had been eliminated; there is much less of it now,

34:30

but illegally it still exists in fairly

34:33

large numbers. The last time I was

34:35

in a special detention center, there was a guy there who

34:36

worked as a security guard at an illegal casino.

34:38

He told me quite a lot, and very interestingly,

34:41

about how it all works. But the main thing is

34:44

that, of course, all of it is

34:46

covered by the police. Everyone knows it; the

34:48

police bosses themselves go there and gamble,

34:50

and money gets kicked up to them. In other words, it's all

34:52

arranged exactly that way. There's one topic

34:55

that

34:57

the press has talked about very little, but it seems to me

35:00

that it's really very important,

35:02

especially in the liberal press,

35:05

especially among supposedly advanced people on

35:07

the internet. For some reason, they think that questions

35:10

of the trade union movement are somehow

35:12

strange and not in the least

35:14

worthy of attention. By the way, yesterday

35:18

something happened that is fundamentally

35:21

important and very clearly

35:23

shows the transformation and

35:26

mutability of this political regime.

35:27

By the way, this year, on February 1, I think,

35:30

it will be 100 years since the beginning of the real

35:33

trade union movement in Russia, when the first

35:35

trade unions were registered.

35:37

Yes, the anniversary. And now, in this anniversary year,

35:41

the Ministry of Justice has moved to liquidate one.

35:44

At the same time, the Ministry of Justice

35:46

and a court in St. Petersburg satisfied the claim

35:49

of the city prosecutor to dissolve the trade union

35:52

of workers at auto industry enterprises in

35:54

Russia—the interregional trade union Workers'

35:56

Association. This is the first time a court has

36:01

dissolved a trade union through judicial proceedings.

36:03

Why was this done? We know what a trade union in Russia

36:06

officially is, and what the trade union movement

36:09

officially consists of—the so-called

36:11

Federation of Independent Trade Unions.

36:13

It is, of course, a gathering of utterly corrupt

36:15

people and collaborators—

36:18

Putin's lackeys, who received

36:20

a huge amount of real estate from the

36:25

Soviet Union era—trade union property—

36:27

and now in front of Putin

36:29

they're ready to stand on their hind legs.

36:30

They vote to support all

36:32

bills, including those

36:34

aimed against workers. They have repeatedly nominated

36:37

Putin for president, for all 18

36:39

years. So, in other words, this is an absolutely

36:40

collaborationist organization. But in

36:42

Russia there are a few—very few—independent

36:46

trade unions, and there is one union that

36:49

really organized work stoppages and

36:52

strikes in order to win

36:55

higher wages for workers—working people,

36:59

which is what a trade union is supposed to do. And

37:01

it was they who organized strikes

37:04

in the Leningrad Region, in Vsevolozhsk,

37:07

that is, the very same people at the factory

37:09

at Volkswagen in Kaluga Region, and everywhere

37:12

where these foreign

37:15

cars are assembled, where at least some

37:17

sort of, you know, at least

37:20

formal measures are in place to pay

37:22

workers somewhat higher wages, where there is some kind of

37:24

foreign management—there, people

37:26

came together and began, quite

37:28

reasonably, in fact. They did not demand

37:30

enormous salaries; they demanded

37:32

reasonable, normal wages, organized

37:35

work stoppages, and achieved all of this. There were

37:38

attacks on union leaders there,

37:40

beatings,

37:41

and one of their leaders, Tumanov,

37:43

was beaten—he was even

37:44

nearly killed several times, and now

37:46

The authorities dissolved this trade union.

37:48

Through the courts. This goes to the point that

37:52

our struggle against Putin and against

37:55

this regime is not some kind of struggle by

37:56

you know, hipsters

37:58

or freelancers, journalists, people

38:03

in creative professions, and so on. They are all

38:05

with us, but this regime is a gang

38:08

of thieves. There you go: they are oppressing workers,

38:10

they dissolved a trade union.

38:13

It may have seemed, God, that we were just

38:15

these trendy city dwellers,

38:18

walking around with cups of coffee, and like this,

38:22

here we are, all bearded, while the real

38:25

workers demanded a pay raise. No,

38:27

you will not get a pay raise.

38:28

We'll shut the union down — and they did.

38:30

Do you know why? Because this trade union

38:32

was a real, proper one: it joined

38:34

an international trade union movement,

38:36

that's how it is organized, and they

38:38

sent them some money, because, again,

38:41

that is how the international trade union

38:43

movement works: wealthier unions and those same

38:46

auto industry workers there

38:49

were helping their fellow workers and colleagues here

38:53

in Russia, and because of that they were declared

38:54

"foreign agents," and because of that

38:56

they were dissolved. So the only

38:59

trade union — or probably the only one that

39:01

organized strikes — has been dissolved. This

39:03

actually shows how broad

39:06

our movement must be, can be, and will be,

39:09

because everyone will join us on this issue:

39:12

all the people who do not like

39:15

political prisoners, people who do not like

39:18

censorship, people who do not like

39:20

obscurantism, and people who do not like

39:22

having their labor rights violated,

39:25

who are denied decent pay,

39:27

Where else are they supposed to go — to court, to

39:30

United Russia (the ruling political party), which supports

39:32

liquidating it? The Communists, who in fact

39:35

should be the first to stand up for

39:36

workers' rights, are silent, keeping quiet.

39:39

They say nothing about it at all. Who is

39:40

speaking about it? I am. We are.

39:43

We are speaking about it. This is actually very important. I

39:46

urge everyone, first of all, to study this

39:48

situation. Second, I urge all

39:50

journalists to write about it actively,

39:51

and human rights defenders to help. By the way,

39:53

today Agora (a Russian legal and human rights group), one of the few

39:56

real, significant

39:57

human rights organizations, wrote a lot about this,

39:59

and of course I want to express

40:02

my gratitude to all the workers who were

40:05

members of this trade union.

40:07

All right, let's see what else

40:10

you are asking me. You can find out about the action on

40:18

the Zhukov Blog channel, as I understand it — that's about

40:20

flowers for police officers. Go there. Alexei,

40:24

it is very important to know the title in the Great

40:26

Punic War — I am not ready to answer

40:28

that question. Hello, Alexei

40:31

Anatolyevich, listen to the song "Russia for the Sad"

40:32

by the band Ploho. Actually,

40:35

it has often been played at my rallies. You know

40:37

that I have often spoken about this slogan:

40:39

"Russia for the Sad." Inferno overkill.

40:42

Where did the dislikes go? Did they ban everyone, or what?

40:44

Let me check. So, we have

40:47

2,394 people — sorry, 20,000

40:51

20,000 watching us.

40:53

8,000 likes. Come on, guys, use your

40:56

mouse there, click like, and then

40:58

the video will get boosted and more people

41:01

will see this broadcast. Where did the dislikes go? I do not

41:04

know, but maybe YouTube finally

41:06

banned those things that

41:08

exist — there was some news this morning

41:09

that YouTube had in fact

41:11

banned some of those Kremlin-linked

41:13

channels that were engaged in artificial boosting,

41:15

but possibly — I hope — some, some

41:21

steps will be taken. Bulat

41:23

asks: Good evening, why don't you

41:25

buy TV ads so that older people

41:27

would know who Alexei Navalny is? Bulat,

41:29

are you joking? What TV advertising?

41:33

The social network VKontakte and even Yandex

41:37

refuse to sell us advertising.

41:39

They say that they do not accept

41:40

political advertising. It is an interesting

41:42

thing, because literally

41:44

last week VKontakte ran

41:47

an ad for Sobyanin, and everyone asked them

41:50

a reasonable question: how is it that Navalny

41:52

was demonstratively refused many times over, while

41:54

Sobyanin's ad is somehow not political advertising?

41:57

And VKontakte sort of squirmed around,

41:59

mumbling vague things like,

42:02

well, Sobyanin is the mayor, so his advertising is

42:05

not political advertising.

42:06

But Navalny, since he is not the mayor and not

42:08

the president, his advertising is political.

42:11

Well, in fact, it is obvious.

42:12

They are hypocrites and cowards. For all my

42:16

love for the social network VKontakte,

42:18

its managers are now, without a doubt,

42:20

people who serve the interests

42:22

of the authorities. So, sadly, that is the reality. We have many times

42:24

wanted to buy advertising

42:27

everywhere; I think in some places we actually do,

42:29

but TV is absolutely closed to us. Maybe

42:32

you remember, Bulat — and if you do remember,

42:34

you will find an interesting

42:35

and funny story on my blog. In 2015 we

42:37

took part in elections in Kostroma (a Russian city),

42:39

Ilya Yashin took part there, and PARNAS (an opposition party); we

42:40

supported and organized that campaign, and

42:43

I went there and took part in local debates,

42:46

and we just sort of

42:48

decided, rather brazenly, to go ahead and buy

42:51

several billboards there. And one

42:54

fine day people went out

42:56

into the street and saw a billboard, and on it there was

42:58

Navalny sitting there — his photograph, if I remember correctly.

43:00

It was there, and in the end we put it up in

43:05

Twitter after all—pretty impressive, right?

43:06

People were already celebrating, joking, and

43:10

laughing. The following night, they arrived—

43:12

some guys just took those billboards

43:14

down. I mean, not just tore them down, you know,

43:16

not just ripped off the paper—they actually

43:18

told the company that had sold us the ad space

43:21

that their billboards,

43:22

their structures, were illegal, and literally cut them down

43:25

with an angle grinder. So that's how it was. Bulat, so—

43:30

someone suggests

43:32

I don't have 331,000 rubles

43:35

but we need to name the drone Sauron.

43:38

A beautiful name—Sauron, yes, a beautiful name.

43:42

Listen, we promised that we would name it

43:45

after whoever donates the most,

43:47

in honor of the biggest donor.

43:50

Alexei, how do you feel about the idea that in

43:52

elections only actual

43:54

taxpayers should take part? asks

43:55

"American Spy." That's the question from

43:57

American Spy. No, I'm against that.

43:59

There are many different theories that

44:02

there should be a property qualification,

44:04

an educational qualification, so that

44:06

only these advanced people, like,

44:08

"we're smart, we pay taxes,

44:11

we're savvy, let's not let

44:12

those louts in"—or pensioners,

44:14

"they don't pay taxes, so let's have only

44:16

us vote." In fact, that's

44:18

a flawed system. It leads nowhere good.

44:20

There must be universal

44:21

suffrage. We simply don't need

44:25

all these tricks like "only

44:27

taxpayers." When all candidates

44:30

are allowed onto the ballot, then this

44:32

simply won't be necessary. So, Zhukov's bloc—

44:36

Zhukovka—we need to figure out who this Zhukov is,

44:38

because he's flooded absolutely all the

44:42

questions. Nadezhda Baranova: "Yesterday I almost

44:46

persuaded a Grudinin supporter, and today I

44:49

successfully called the audience of the

44:51

website to strike (boycott)."

44:52

So that means I'm great, I'm great, I

44:55

did well. Nadezhda, of course you did well.

44:57

Of course you did. Each of us should spend 5 minutes a day

45:02

on this, and then there won't be

45:04

any turnout, and Putin will personally

45:06

be dancing with a pencil, dropping it,

45:08

a bottle of champagne, or taking part in

45:10

those debates with Zhirik (Vladimir Zhirinovsky) just to

45:12

attract someone, of course, with huge—well,

45:16

this program, the previous program,

45:18

has so far been watched by 380,000

45:22

people. Let's say 80,000 of them

45:25

disagree and watched it only so they could

45:27

say, "What a scoundrel that Navalny is,"

45:29

what a scoundrel.

45:29

But just imagine—even 300,000, just 300,000

45:32

people, that's far more for us

45:34

than signatures. We can actually, in principle,

45:36

get everyone to do something for 5 minutes a day,

45:40

and that's it. Leonid writes: graffiti.

45:43

Draw graffiti, absolutely right.

45:45

Draw graffiti—just don't get caught,

45:47

please. And please don't paint

45:49

graffiti on any cultural or

45:52

historical sites, or anything of value.

45:54

What do you think about the YouTube channel

45:56

Anti-Kadyrov? I don't think anything about it—I don't know it.

45:58

So, Jeffrey comes back to me with

46:01

a question and scolds me:

46:03

"You didn't answer my question. At each

46:05

polling station there will be different observers; a person

46:07

who casts 5 to 10 identical votes

46:09

will still be the same person." But Jeffrey means the so-

46:11

called carousel voting, when

46:13

people vote in different places.

46:15

Organized transport—right, this is when

46:17

a car or minibus drives ten

46:19

guys around to all the polling stations, and everywhere

46:21

they vote. We'll fight that too.

46:23

Observers are not only at polling stations; there are also

46:25

mobile observers, observers

46:27

from the Russian movement who have worked in Russia for many years, and

46:32

we know all about mobile groups there.

46:33

We know the methods for fighting

46:35

electoral fraud, so

46:37

in any case, at the very least we will be able

46:38

to document all of it. So, Viktor writes

46:43

that by training he's an environmental scientist, and what kills him

46:46

is the lack of competence of politicians, including

46:47

yours and mine, on environmental issues. Everything

46:50

gets reduced to garbage, smokestacks, and deforestation,

46:52

so when are you going to educate yourselves on

46:53

environmental issues? Well, Viktor, if you

46:56

help educate politicians on this,

46:58

at least I'm ready to learn

46:59

about this issue. It's a politician's job

47:01

to keep learning constantly, and that would be

47:03

good. But I just want to say why

47:05

politicians so often talk about garbage,

47:07

smokestacks, and deforestation: because voters

47:09

are most concerned about those things. When they

47:11

talk about the environment, they mean

47:12

the quality of food, the quality of drinking

47:15

water,

47:15

the little park near their home, an incineration

47:18

plant they want to build, and the cutting down

47:20

of forests. So politicians, after all,

47:22

are responding to the questions voters ask them.

47:25

There are a lot of questions. I have

47:30

a separate topic about registering the Party of

47:32

Progress.

47:33

Today on my blog I wrote that we are

47:37

starting for the sixth time. Can you imagine?

47:39

For the sixth time. I think that even our

47:42

opponents have no doubt

47:45

that we have real support across

47:47

the whole country. In Russia, under the law,

47:50

you only need 500 people to establish a party.

47:53

Our movement alone had them in

47:56

20 cities, each of which had

47:58

far more than 500 people, and we've been doing

48:02

all this since 2012,

48:03

since 2012, and of course we have much more

48:05

More people support us in every—

48:09

in every city, in every town and settlement.

48:10

But now, for the sixth time, we’ve gone through

48:13

absolute hell: a congress, regional

48:17

conferences, an initiative group,

48:18

separate registration for each branch,

48:20

and it’s not enough just to gather the documents.

48:23

It’s not enough to submit them to the Ministry of Justice in Moscow; in every region

48:25

you also have to register everything separately there, and

48:27

then register the branch, then collect it all, then

48:29

submit it all—it's an absolutely hellish

48:31

procedure. We’ve done it six times. Twice

48:34

with the People’s Alliance party,

48:36

then the Kremlin, through its spoiler party, stole

48:38

our name and renamed one of

48:40

the parties under its control the People’s Alliance,

48:42

taking all our symbols. You probably

48:44

remember that absurd episode.

48:46

Then we started registering the Party of

48:48

Progress, and we even got it registered, and at

48:50

one point everything was in order for us

48:52

on paper. We prepared to

48:54

take part in elections, after which the Kremlin

48:56

decided, no, that’s too scary after all—they

48:58

might actually get in and win seats in

49:01

the legislative assembly. And we would have gotten in,

49:03

of course we would have. They were right to be afraid.

49:05

They had it dissolved through the courts—not

49:08

suspended, but outright liquidated immediately.

49:09

Nevertheless, we are starting this

49:12

for the sixth or seventh time now. Why? Because we

49:17

want to take part in elections. Yes, right now

49:21

we are organizing a strike; we are calling on people not

49:23

to go to these so-called “elections,” but

49:26

without a doubt, we want to, and we can,

49:29

and we know that we are ready to win in

49:31

a legal political struggle, because

49:33

there is no party, no political force, that

49:37

represents normal people in Russia.

49:39

There is United Russia, which is a pack of ghouls, and

49:43

then there are the other parties, but at best they are

49:46

just weak and

49:48

cowardly people who do not want

49:50

to work and are afraid to say anything.

49:52

So we understand perfectly well that such a

49:55

party would have enormous potential.

49:56

That’s the first point. The second is that we really do have

49:59

a huge number of

50:00

supporters. And yes, not everyone

50:03

is comfortable with the party form of

50:05

organization. Of course, many people

50:07

say: well, Navalny, I would vote for you,

50:08

but a party—a party is always

50:11

something crooked, and any

50:13

sociological survey shows

50:14

that among all public

50:17

institutions, parties are the least

50:20

respected. People do not trust parties, and

50:23

for historical reasons: no one has ever

50:25

seen a normal, honest party.

50:26

So how can they believe in parties

50:29

if a person has lived 40 or 50 years and

50:33

all they have seen is that parties are, after all,

50:34

crooks? So in principle people are not

50:36

inclined to trust them, and we understand perfectly well

50:38

that this is not for everyone in our

50:40

huge movement of hundreds of thousands of people. But

50:42

within it there are quite a lot of people

50:45

who want a party, especially in the regions,

50:48

because they need what you might call

50:50

a legal umbrella, so that they can

50:52

join properly and be able to take part

50:54

in local elections there, in their own small

50:56

city, town, settlement, or in a

50:58

big city.

50:59

They are ready to win elections; at the very least

51:02

they are ready to fight. But if there is no party,

51:04

you can go to some

51:06

registered one, but then you have to get down on one

51:08

knee,

51:09

kiss the chairman’s ring, so to speak,

51:11

sign some paper saying you must

51:13

support someone in the presidential election,

51:14

and so on and so forth.

51:16

Well, first of all, not everyone enjoys that, and

51:19

second, I would say that almost always, and

51:23

almost certainly, a person who can

51:26

successfully take part in elections and is ready

51:28

to win them will not do that. He will not

51:29

want to bow to some people there. We are

51:32

creating a party in which you do not have to bow

51:33

to anyone. From the very beginning, everything was

51:36

built on the principles of electronic

51:37

democracy, with voting throughout. It’s not

51:40

a matter of me appointing, for example, who

51:43

goes to the State Duma—all party members

51:46

vote on that. The political council

51:49

is also elected by all party members, not

51:50

by a conference, not by the heads of regional

51:53

branches. All party members can

51:54

vote. Why does this need to be done? So that

51:57

people who want to break through

52:00

have the chance to do so. If you get into

52:03

a conflict with the head

52:04

of your regional branch, then in the parties that currently

52:05

exist, no one will

52:07

let you rise any higher.

52:08

You won’t get to, I don’t know, the party chairman

52:10

so that he gets to know you. With us,

52:13

it works completely differently.

52:14

Campaign, talk about yourself, and people will

52:18

vote for you. And even party representatives—

52:19

whoever they may be, whether it’s me or

52:21

someone else—you do not need them at all, because

52:25

you can do everything effectively on your own

52:28

if you are a good politician. So

52:30

we are beginning this registration now. We estimate that

52:32

in the first days of January

52:35

we will be able to hold the founding congress.

52:37

It is very important. Right now we are submitting

52:40

documents to the Ministry of Justice, a notice to

52:43

the Ministry of Justice, and beginning to register

52:46

the initiative group. And we have calculated everything so that

52:50

if we are registered by then,

52:53

in the next elections, which will take place on

52:55

the Single Voting Day in September (Russia’s nationwide election day), we

52:56

will be able to take part in elections in some places—I’m not

52:59

saying in all of them; there are dozens.

53:01

elections, big and small, but somewhere

53:03

we will be able to take part

53:04

we understand perfectly well that the Kremlin won't

53:07

want to register us, and there is a high

53:09

probability that they will once again

53:11

shut it down, but probably from a political point

53:13

of view, it is harder for them to do that now

53:15

because, well, everyone can see it; it's impossible

53:18

to say, you know, what kind of party that is in

53:20

Navalny's case and his headquarters there, because, well,

53:22

they don't have 500 supporters across Russia—that

53:26

would obviously make anyone laugh

53:28

even someone who is critical of us

53:30

so yes, we are doing this and will keep doing it

53:34

I'm not calling on everyone to join right now

53:36

because for the purpose of, from the standpoint of

53:38

registration, but I need a great many

53:40

people; the more people there are, the more

53:41

paperwork has to be prepared, so for now

53:44

we are proceeding on the principle of minimum numbers

53:45

so that everything can be done quickly. So again, Zhukov

53:49

Zhukov, Zhukov, Virtual Auto asks me

53:52

why not nominate as a presidential candidate

53:53

one of your own people, for example Volkov

53:56

from among your people? That's not how it works, well,

53:58

just think about it yourselves: for us, for

54:02

all of us, it sounds humiliating—someone from

54:04

our own circle, like, okay, just point

54:07

your finger at someone and we'll run off

54:09

to vote for him because you pointed

54:11

your finger at him. That's not how choosing one of our own works

54:14

that way. Volkov can

54:16

take part; he is a very effective, honest

54:18

good politician, but if you want

54:20

to take part in

54:21

it, you should not be, you should not be there

54:23

taking part just because Navalny

54:24

showed you

54:25

or because you are his wife or a relative or

54:27

his chief of staff. You have to run

54:29

a campaign, travel around the regions

54:32

talk to people—that is what

54:34

real politics is. But fiddling with this

54:36

substitution—first of all, it's ineffective

54:38

and second, it simply won't work because

54:40

well, it won't come together that way; that's not

54:42

how it works. Ivan Ivanov asks me the following

54:46

question: are you morally ready to press the

54:48

nuclear button if it comes to that? Well, if

54:51

it really comes to that, then of course I am, but the task of any

54:55

president, of any normal person, is to

54:59

think about it with horror. I think with horror, in general,

55:02

even about the theoretical possibility that

55:06

someone might be pressing some kind of buttons

55:09

but this is exactly

55:12

it—and nuclear weapons are a weapon of deterrence

55:14

they are meant so that wars

55:16

never happen at all; in principle, so far

55:19

they have fulfilled that role. I mean, again,

55:22

if aliens were to arrive tomorrow

55:24

and, I don't know, we needed to shoot down their flying

55:26

saucer with a nuclear bomb, I would press it—well, if

55:28

if they suddenly started doing some bad things

55:30

only if they were bad aliens

55:33

Navalny, are you promising to introduce visas with

55:35

Kazakhstan? And what will you do if the Kazakhs, in

55:37

response, take away Baikonur? How is that any better than

55:38

Putin?

55:39

If instead of integration with our neighbors

55:40

you are proposing conflict with them. Andrei

55:42

Ivanov, Andrei Ivanov, I am not proposing conflict with

55:45

anyone. There is a visa regime

55:47

between Russia and Germany—are we

55:49

in conflict with them? There is a visa regime

55:51

between Russia and, well, with

55:54

a lot of countries that are friendly to us

55:56

a lot of friendly or relatively friendly countries in

55:58

Europe or Asia or elsewhere, and

56:00

believe it or not, Andrei, there is still

56:03

a visa regime with them. So I propose that with

56:05

Kazakhstan we cooperate perfectly well. No one

56:07

can take Baikonur away; the status of

56:10

Baikonur is regulated differently

56:12

by agreement; we pay money for it

56:15

separately. Cooperation on this with the Kazakhs

56:17

come on, that's nonsense. They are normal people

56:19

no one is going to take anything away, and they

56:20

also look to their own interests. But a visa

56:23

regime is needed so that we can

56:25

bring migration into order. There is no major problem

56:28

with migration from Kazakhstan to Russia

56:31

because in Kazakhstan now salaries are

56:32

even somewhat higher than in Russia, but any

56:35

effort to establish order begins with introducing

56:38

a visa regime

56:39

After all, no one in Europe is abolishing the visa

56:42

regime with us, and we are not trying to abolish it either

56:46

And now Alexei asks me

56:49

about Alexander Pochinok: what do you think about

56:51

the tax amnesty before the elections? Well,

56:53

what Putin announced is of course not

56:55

a tax amnesty at all—it's some kind of nonsense. They

56:57

are effectively amnestying those who already

56:59

were not going to pay anything anyway—things like

57:00

overdue debts, closed

57:04

legal entities, abandoned sole proprietorships, and so on. No,

57:06

of course there is no real tax

57:11

amnesty there, no genuine tax amnesty at all

57:13

Grigory Savich asks:

57:14

have you been in contact with Chichvarkin? He

57:16

often mentions you and comments, including on

57:18

the weaknesses of Navalny's presidential program

57:20

We are often in contact with

57:23

Chichvarkin; I am very grateful for his

57:24

support. He sends us money and he

57:26

raises money for us in order to

57:28

transfer it to us in the end. And as for the fact that he

57:30

criticizes us—well, he isn't Navalny

57:33

Chichvarkin has a coherent

57:35

well-developed system of his own political

57:37

views. He is a libertarian, and from

57:39

libertarian positions he criticizes

57:42

our program. That is how it should work

57:45

Chichvarkin criticizes us from the right

57:47

the communists criticize us from the left; our

57:50

program is, by and large, fairly centrist

57:51

That is normal. But in the course of this

57:54

criticism, he still says that

57:56

He would vote for me, and he

57:59

identifies with it; he is part

58:01

of this movement. That is the most important thing. And

58:03

policy debates should always

58:05

exist. Even within a single party there will always

58:08

be debates between me and you,

58:11

Grigory, on some issue. We will start

58:13

discussing what we like and what we do not like,

58:16

and somewhere we will inevitably find disagreements.

58:19

We will debate them, but that does not

58:21

mean that we cannot be part

58:23

of one and the same political movement. So,

58:27

can you be called the Russian Che

58:29

Guevara? They ask. No, you should not call me that under

58:31

any circumstances, the Russian Che

58:32

Guevara. There is really nothing

58:34

close about it, not in a complimentary sense

58:37

or a negative one. In general, all these comparisons

58:39

are rather meaningless, and

58:42

there is no need to resort to them. Oleg

58:46

Vaitman asks: how will you

58:48

develop small oil towns,

58:49

for example Langepas, with a population of 45,000? I

58:52

will develop them very well, because

58:54

they are oil towns. We will leave them a little more

58:56

of the tax revenue, and they will

58:59

prosper, as happens in Norway

59:03

and as happens in the United States, where there are

59:05

oil settlements in Alaska,

59:08

for example, and they prosper. They have a great

59:10

deal of money. But why else live in

59:12

Langepas and suffer from terrible

59:15

climatic conditions if your town is not

59:18

a town that is richer than all

59:20

the others?

59:21

Well, that is often the case to some extent.

59:23

Surgut and Nefteyugansk are a little richer,

59:27

better maintained, more decent than the average

59:29

Russian city, but not as much as they should be.

59:31

Not long ago, for example, Tyumen

59:34

— but you cannot say that it is truly flourishing.

59:37

You really cannot say that it

59:39

is flourishing.

59:40

But these towns should flourish in the

59:42

literal sense. There should be

59:44

a ton of money there. That is how it should be, because

59:46

these people live there, and of course the

59:49

oil they extract from the ground

59:52

belongs to everyone, and all of us

59:54

receive some share from it.

59:56

But they should get a little more, because they

1:00:00

have much colder winters, because they

1:00:03

hardly have a summer, because they...

1:00:05

because their children do not see the sun. Well, this

1:00:08

does not apply only to oil; it also applies to Karelian

1:00:11

nickel and everything else. But I have already gone over

1:00:14

my time. Let us take one last question.

1:00:19

With minimal turnout, the election will still be recognized

1:00:21

as legitimate, and Putin will become president.

1:00:22

The strike only shows the low

1:00:24

level of support for the current government. What is the plan?

1:00:28

With a strike, without a strike, with whatever, with

1:00:33

candidates or without candidates, Putin

1:00:36

will reappoint himself president. Now

1:00:39

understand this main point: there is no such thing as

1:00:43

an electoral strategy here. There is nothing you can

1:00:47

do at a polling station to

1:00:50

prevent him from becoming “president,”

1:00:54

in quotation marks. He has usurped this power and

1:00:57

seized it, and at the moment when they did not

1:01:00

allow me onto the ballot, they kept all of us — all of us, including you — out of

1:01:03

the election. They made it so that

1:01:05

there is no suspense at all, not even

1:01:07

a political process, not even debates.

1:01:10

There is nothing. No one can go on television and

1:01:12

say the right things. None

1:01:14

of this exists. So stop calling

1:01:18

this an election. It is a reappointment, and our

1:01:22

task over these next three months

1:01:24

is to demand real elections. Therefore,

1:01:27

take part in the strike.

1:01:29

Do not go there, and if you do go, go only

1:01:31

as observers.

1:01:33

Persuade everyone around you. Take part in the rally

1:01:35

on January 28.

1:01:37

There is a link in the description below. Choose your

1:01:39

city, register, and come

1:01:41

to declare: guys, hey, those in power,

1:01:45

Putin and everyone else, you are obliged to reckon with me.

1:01:47

You must take me into account.

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Thank you very much. See you next Thursday.

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