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Hello everyone. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, and in the studio—

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Navalny Live, Mikhail Saakashvili.

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Or I don't even know what to call myself anymore.

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All those names you mentioned—maybe that could actually

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become the trademark of my show, because

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every time they come up with

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wonderful new names for me. In

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recent episodes, as you may remember, I was

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a bungler, then I was a visiting

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ticket inspector, and today I'm Mikhail Saakashvili.

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And obviously that's because this is

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the main thing—the most, I think,

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quoted piece of news from today's

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press conference by President Putin,

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which, generally speaking, was supposed to be

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something momentous. After all,

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the man is running for a fourth term. He's been in power for 18

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years, he had just announced before

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workers that he was running in the election, and

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then held a press conference. We were all waiting.

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I'll be honest: I watched all three

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hours—well, with breaks. I went

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to lunch, attended one meeting, but

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overall I watched almost all of it, because

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I was expecting something interesting. What exactly

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would Putin's answer be to

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today's challenges, to the obvious

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public fatigue with him, to the obvious

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economic downturn, the lack of

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economic growth, and finally to

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the rallies that took place across the whole—well, all

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the things happening in the country. He

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was supposed to give some kind of

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powerful response at least—one that he himself

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would consider powerful.

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After all, last time there were the May decrees

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and various other interesting little things,

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statements that were meaningless but loud,

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foreign-policy ones. But this time all we heard was

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a double serving of coughing,

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and overall, of all the press conferences,

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this was of course the most

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uninteresting and unconvincing one.

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Nothing at all was really said. But we

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were expecting something new on

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the economic program, at least some

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promises.

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Something like last time—remember, when it was like,

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"We'll create 25 million

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high-tech jobs." Well,

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it was terrible nonsense, and everyone understood that

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you couldn't actually do that, but at least

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it sounded like something. You may remember that some

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time ago all the newspapers were writing that

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the presidential administration was busy searching for

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an "image of the future." Those people sit there earning

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big salaries, and we all hoped that they would

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somehow formulate this image of the future

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and present it. Our fingers were already poised

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over the keyboard so we could joke about

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this image of the future and mock everything

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Putin would say. But he said absolutely

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nothing. He just came and said

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nothing, except that

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the opposition has no program—whereas he does.

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He doesn't have one, in fact. And besides,

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there was the whole "I'm Mikhail Saakashvili" thing. Let's

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take a look. We have two minutes; we've

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trimmed it a bit. Ksenia Sobchak

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asked Vladimir Putin a question, and he

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answered it. Let's watch it and discuss.

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My question concerns competition in elections.

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Your press secretary, Dmitry Peskov,

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has already said that our opposition has not

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matured yet.

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Today we were saying that, well,

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it's not for me to cultivate it, because there are no

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people. But it seems to me that everyone matured long ago,

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and no one needs to be cultivated—everyone has

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grown up on their own. But the problem is

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something else: today either

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opposition candidates are not allowed onto

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the ballot,

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or obstacles are created for them. I feel this

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myself. For example, there is a candidate, Alexei

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Navalny, who has been campaigning for a year.

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Against him,

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fabricated criminal cases were deliberately

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created. Their falsity was

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proven by Alexei Navalny in the

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European Court. The European Court's ruling,

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as you know, is recognized by the Russian

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Federation.

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And yet he is still not being allowed to run

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in the election, even though it is known that there is also

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a separate opinion from the Constitutional Court on

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this matter, and so on. The same thing

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is happening in connection with my own activities after

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my announcement.

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It's very difficult to rent any hall in the country; people

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refuse, even on normal commercial

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terms, to cooperate. It's hard to place

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any campaign materials at all, and all of this

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is simply connected with fear. People understand

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that being an opposition politician in Russia means

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either you'll be killed, or you'll be

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jailed,

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or something else of that sort will happen.

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My question is: why is this happening?

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Is the government really afraid of real competition?

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As for competition, as for

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where we have a viable opposition—I have

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already answered that at some length, and

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the point of that answer is not that

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someone hasn't matured enough for something, but

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rather that

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the opposition must come forward with clear, understandable

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programs for people—programs of positive

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action. You are running under the slogan

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"Against Everyone"—is that a positive program

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of action? And what do you propose to

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solve those

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to solve those problems that

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we are discussing today, specifically regarding—

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As for the figures you mentioned,

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that question has already been raised here.

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About Ukraine—you want our

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public squares to be filled with dozens of such, excuse me,

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Saakashvilis? Those you named are

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Saakashvili.

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Only in the Russian version, and you

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want

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such Saakashvilis to

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destabilize the situation in the country?

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Do you want us to go through one

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Maidan (the 2013–2014 Ukrainian protest movement) after another, so that we have

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attempted coups? We

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have already been through all of that.

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Do you really want to bring all that back? Saakashvili,

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Maidan, running around the squares, Maidan,

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Maidan, Maidan, Saakashvili—what are you even

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talking about? Why isn’t Navalny

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allowed to run in the election? Saakashvili, Maidan, not

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allowed to run—what does all of this even

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mean? And what do your

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speculations about a program have to do with it?

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We actually do have a program; we

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just presented it. In general, we have

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always had one. By the way, on the subject of me spending a year traveling around,

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“running around the squares”—yes, I do go to public squares,

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because I speak in front of people. That is

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my job as a candidate. It is very strange

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that Putin is not out in the squares now and

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is not meeting with anyone and not

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talking to people and not trying

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to tell them about his program. But I

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want to point out something that

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so far no one has paid attention to. I

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followed the media reaction—everyone is laughing:

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ha-ha, Saakashvili, he basically didn’t name

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Navalny by surname. It’s a strange

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thing. Honestly, this time I was

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sure he would finally say “Navalny,”

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as if to prove to everyone that he

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could do it. He couldn’t. But all that is

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nonsense. In fact, Putin once gave

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a very simple answer. We all forgot it. It was in

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December 2013, and back then he

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was asked during his annual call-in show about this—well,

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Navalny had taken part in the election; did you

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approve of that? I don’t want to misquote him,

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so let me not get it wrong—I’ll

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even show you the headline from the newspaper

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*Vedomosti*.

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What did Putin say in response to the question: under what circumstances

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would Navalny be allowed to run in the election?

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“They will not bar Navalny from the election

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if he did not pose a threat; if he posed a threat, he would not have been allowed

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to run.” That is a direct quote

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from Putin, straight out of 2013. It is as if

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from there, from the past, he is answering us here

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in modern Russia, not letting us move forward

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into our beautiful Russia of the future:

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“Guys, Navalny poses a threat,”

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and that is why we are not allowing him into the election.

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What happened at that

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press conference is very important, because he did not,

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of course, phrase it that way directly; on the contrary,

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he lied.

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He said that he is afraid of no one. But for the first

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time, he did not resort to his usual pseudo-

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legal nonsense. He said quite plainly

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that we are not allowing this candidate to run

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because we do not like him. Yes, there was an added

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bit about Saakashvili and because

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he will be running around, but this candidate will

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do certain bad, unpleasant things

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to me, Vladimir Putin, and to my friends—

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Dmitry Medvedev, Gennady Timchenko, or

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Arkady Rotenberg. We do not like these people.

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They will do something bad to us.

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Maidan, blah blah blah blah blah—therefore, in the

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election, we will not allow him in, because

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the state is not some bearded peasant, as

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was put so vividly, who

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pulls cabbages out of the ground. Rather, it is—well, I don’t

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know—we are these cool technocrats

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who can solve problems, and we are eliminating this

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threat and not allowing the person into the election.

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That is the most important thing that

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was said, and I urge everyone to pay

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attention to it. And what Putin said

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only strengthens my conviction that we

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must all together demand my

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registration. This is not specifically a question of my

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registration; it is a question of our right

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to put forward our own candidate.

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We need to draw attention to this and

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say that an election without a candidate

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is not an election—especially when you are directly

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saying that he poses a threat, so we

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are not letting him run. But as for all this

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funny stuff about Maidan and Saakashvili,

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there is simply no need to pay attention to it.

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It has, in principle, turned into

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a kind of running joke: in response to every

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question, to every uncomfortable question, Putin

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for some reason keeps bringing up Maidan,

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Ukraine. He has been doing this since 2014, and

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right after the press conference there even appeared

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a funny edited video.

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I talked about it at one of the

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rallies, and now we will show you—there is

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literally one

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where you can see that Putin is simply speaking from a

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prepared talking-points sheet. “Alexei Navalny, regarding

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the figures you mentioned—this has already

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been asked a hundred times—or there is the question of Ukraine.” As soon as you

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say something about corruption, the response is immediately:

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“He wants what happened in Ukraine.”

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“Do you want our squares to be filled with people running around,”

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“dozens of such—excuse me—Saakashvilis?”

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What does Ukraine have to do with it?

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I was telling you that Medvedev has a palace,

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damn it—and the answer is: “He wants to stage a Maidan.” You

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“want us to go through”

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“one Maidan after another.” Damn, well, there you go.

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You see, it is a real joke: in response to

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absolutely anything you say to him, yes, something like

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a question about the U.S. national debt—and he somehow did not bring it up there.

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Actually, it would be more accurate to put it this way:

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“But these gentlemen whom you mention...”

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Of course we won’t let them in, because they’ll

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stage a Maidan (an uprising like Ukraine’s 2013–2014 Euromaidan), and as a result of that

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terrible Maidan, we’ll end up in as

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dire a situation as the United States is in now, by the way.

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Just look at their enormous national debt — that’s

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the last thing we need. Everything else that was said

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was, of course, well, not even

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sad to watch.

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I mean, the man has the entire

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presidential administration working for him there. They could

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have come up with something better. They could have, well,

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at least simply lied about something at

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that press conference, and the sheer audacity

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of that lie would have taken everyone’s breath away.

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But they can do nothing except

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endlessly, endlessly drone on about

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Maidan.

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I’d like to draw your attention to the fact that, first of all, we have

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an app for the program

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Navalny Live, and you can download it. We already have

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quite a few thousand downloads.

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It works, so go ahead and get it. We had an app

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for iPhones before, and now we also have

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an app for Android. I know that

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many people were offended when last time

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I said that Android owners are used

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to suffering. Well, you don’t have to suffer anymore.

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End your suffering, Android owners.

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Come on in and

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download the app, and you’ll be able to

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watch the broadcasts, listen to them like

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radio, and read transcripts. Besides, I

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noticed something remarkable:

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viewers like it when we raise money live on air.

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We were terribly uneasy before

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starting to do it, because we

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thought it would really annoy all of you.

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But it turned out to be quite

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an entertaining thing, so in this

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broadcast we’ll continue fundraising. I want

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to say that over several

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programs we collected

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850,000 rubles (about 8,500 USD), and we need only another 150,000

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rubles (about 1,500 USD) to reach a million. So I’m curious:

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in this broadcast, will I be able to make it

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to a million in total? The money we

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raise today will go to the project that pays

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fines for everyone who was detained or fined for

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attending rallies. So basically, everything

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you donate will go toward that.

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If you were fined for

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a lawful rally that you took

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part in, then you can send those

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funniest GIFs that will

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appear in the background over my face, and

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various messages. Another decent

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question that came up was asked by Tatyana

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Felgengauer. She was talking about something very important:

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in effect, two legal systems. That is

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absolutely true. One system is the one in which

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we all live, where criminal cases are fabricated

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and there is complete

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lawlessness. And then there is a second system where

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there exist these people with

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“special status,” as Prosecutor General

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Chaika called them when defending Suleiman Kerimov. He

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said: how can it be that a senator,

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a person with special status, can simply be

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detained on suspicion of a serious

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crime? But what else would you detain him for,

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if not on suspicion

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of a serious crime? But they were

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completely serious about it. He simply

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he was genuinely astonished: how could this be?

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Imagine that — some police force detains

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a person with special status. And that’s exactly what

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Felgengauer was talking about, using

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these people with special status as an example.

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Let’s watch it very briefly. We have clip 220.

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Q&A. My question is about the situation with

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the rule of law in the Russian Federation.

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We see two different legal realities.

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In one of them, a real

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repressive machine is actively at work, when criminal cases are opened

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over reposts on social media,

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when people are sitting in prison on

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completely unfounded charges, and

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this has been proven in many cases — Oleg Navalny, for example,

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when the case against Kirill Serebrennikov is underway,

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and Alexei Malobrodsky is being held in pretrial detention.

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We see another legal

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reality: in it, Boris Nemtsov has been murdered,

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and Ruslan Geremeyev is not questioned

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because, well, investigators were simply not

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let in.

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Andrei Turchak has not been questioned in the case of the

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attack on journalist Oleg Kashin.

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Igor Sechin, the head of Rosneft, does not appear in

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court for the crucial trial in the case of Alexei

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Ulyukayev, ignoring all summonses, and any

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other citizen would almost certainly

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be brought in by force, because

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that is contempt of court. However,

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Igor Sechin gets away with all of it.

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So the question is: what rule of

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law can we even talk about if in our

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state there are different legal

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realities?

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I agree with you that there are

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plenty of problems, but I cannot agree that

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there are different legal

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realities. As for Sechin and his failure to appear in court,

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if there is any violation of

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the law here, then the law must respond

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accordingly. But

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as far as I understand — I may be mistaken,

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I have seen the public reaction

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on this matter —

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the law has not been violated in any way here, and as

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the investigation believes, enough material has been collected,

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including testimony from

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Sechin himself. But I also cannot but

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agree with you that Sechin could have

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come in — there would have been nothing difficult about it —

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and repeated everything he had said during

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the preliminary investigation and questioning. Well,

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as for someone being in prison and you

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considering it unjustified — that is your view.

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unfounded, while the investigative authorities consider it

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well-founded. In such cases, only the court can resolve the dispute.

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Only a court of first instance can do that. We will need to

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continue strengthening the judicial and legal

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system. 22,000 people are watching us

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live, while Putin’s broadcast peaked at

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mostly around 32,000 viewers at its peak.

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32,000 people — we’re falling a little short.

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But then again, I’m Mikhail Saakashvili,

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and he’s Vladimir Putin, so

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I’m supposed to have slightly fewer

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views.

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The answer to that question was quite interesting,

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because in situations like this, Putin usually

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speaks more evasively. I

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expected him to say something like,

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“Well, yes, of course, Igor Ivanovich should

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pay close attention to the requirements of

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the judicial system, and if there are any

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violations there, then of course

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the authorities will look into it. But I’m sure, I

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will draw his attention to the fact that he must

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treat the courts with particular respect.”

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And he would say roughly the same thing

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regarding political

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prisoners — that their cases are under review, there are

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appeals, we are watching all of this closely,

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we are not violating anything, after all.”

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Tatyana Felgenhauer, thank you. And what

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she said about Oleg Navalny as well,

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and about the ruling of the European Court,

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somehow ended up

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showing that Putin still tries not to present himself as

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a complete villain when answering these

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questions. But today, here, he

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fully switched into what you might call

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a brazenly indifferent mode.

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Meaning: he was right about everything, he did

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everything correctly, everything according to the law — although he

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obviously broke the law, obviously

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disregarded the judicial system, obviously.

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What cool things are changing around me — I

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started talking and then suddenly

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there were fireworks all around. Obviously, he disregarded

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the court — just like that, plainly enough.

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It was demonstratively

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and brazenly dismissive. Nevertheless, everything

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is supposedly fine. So this time, in

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answering that question, it was stated very clearly

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that basically, “we’re the tough guys, and

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indeed, Tatyana Felgenhauer, you

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are right: there are two legal systems.

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In one legal system, we are absolutely

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right. The other legal system is for you.

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If you’re unhappy, then go to

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our legal system — it will

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explain to you which part of it you belong to.”

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That was quite a cynical answer, and it seems to me

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that it shows us how the rest of the

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election campaign will go as well.

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The same thing will happen again,

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all over again.

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They will treat you with complete lawlessness; in everything

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they will refuse us, they will keep refusing, they will

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do absolutely whatever they want.

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And he will say, “But we are absolutely

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right.” In that sense, there won’t even be

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any of those ritual phrases like,

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“Let the Central Election Commission

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look into what exactly went wrong there.”

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I don’t think even that will happen. They

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will simply put on stony faces and

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keep insisting how they are one hundred

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percent completely right. Anton Lesovoy

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reminds me — corrects me — that it was time to mention

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America, though not “long ago,” but Occupy Wall

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Street. That’s right — in fact, he

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did say at the end, correctly, that

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“Just look at what happened in America.

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There was this movement, Occupy — where is it now?

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Where is it? It’s gone home, that’s where,”

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he said. “Where is the Wall Street movement?” As if,

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you know, they had all been shot or

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thrown in prison, and that was that.

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And this is called democracy? As if they had

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been rounded up onto barges and the whole movement drowned.

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That’s what he calls democracy.

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There was an Occupy Wall Street movement; it

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did exist.

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It was more or less active for several months, and

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then it simply, gradually, fell apart

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like any political movement — it lost

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its relevance.

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The participants in that movement, the leaders of that

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movement, are perfectly free.

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They are engaged in political

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activity, they continue doing it, and

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most certainly

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no one has banned them, no one forbids them

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from taking part in elections, and no one forbids them

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from continuing this activity.

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They can still get approval for their

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actions,

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rallies, and everything else. So when Putin

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brought up America again, he nevertheless

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lied again.

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This election campaign, right now,

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in my deep conviction — and I think that in the

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very near future you will also become

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convinced of this —

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will of course be focused on turnout. He

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didn’t even try

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during his main first

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press conference to say anything

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that would inspire people, win some

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votes. They are convinced that everything has already been

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decided.

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Since Navalny is not being allowed in — although we

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will of course continue fighting for

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registration — it very much looks like

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they will try to issue a decision saying

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that I am not being admitted to the election. Because of that, they

21:28

believe that

21:29

their direct electoral problems

21:31

have been solved. They have only one problem left:

21:33

voter turnout.

21:35

Whatever they may say, of course they do not

21:37

want fewer than half of voters to show up.

21:39

voters, or so that turnout is much

21:41

lower than last time, so

21:44

they’ll drag people in by the ears if they have to, using every means possible.

21:48

You probably read it—newspapers wrote this week

21:50

that the Presidential Administration gave

21:52

instructions to all governors to turn

21:54

the election into a celebration, both literally and

21:57

figuratively. So at every

21:59

polling station there will be cheerful clowns,

22:01

giveaways of detergent powder, an accordion player—

22:04

everything will be there. Plus there will be

22:07

—you’ll see—I’m sure that in the near

22:09

future such plans will be published:

22:11

blanket door-to-door canvassing in order

22:13

to drag everyone to the polls.

22:15

Workforces will be pressured into going to

22:17

vote, some kind of ward captains and block captains,

22:19

lotteries—we’ll see it all. They’re terribly afraid

22:23

of what’s happening—how should we even call it properly?

22:26

It’s not even really a boycott; probably it shouldn’t be called a boycott

22:28

at all, because the word itself

22:29

“boycott,” of course, implies that you’re

22:31

doing something to our

22:33

electoral strike—that’s exactly what it is.

22:36

That should be the attitude. In other words, this

22:38

is a strike: we refuse to participate in

22:41

this disgusting farce. That is, we want

22:43

to take part in elections, just as strikers

22:46

actually want to work, want to receive

22:48

their wages—so do we, we want to participate in

22:51

elections. But if you won’t let us have a real

22:53

choice, if you think you should decide for

22:57

us who is supposed to be our

22:59

candidate, then we will strike. And that’s

23:01

what they’re terribly afraid of—the very idea of this strike.

23:03

They will fight it with all their might. In

23:06

the last State Duma elections, you

23:08

remember, they blocked websites

23:10

that called for a boycott. I think that

23:12

this time they will try even

23:14

harder to do that. And so our

23:16

task is to wage a very active

23:18

guerrilla campaign in order

23:21

to convince everyone around us that you cannot

23:23

and must not take part in this.

23:26

So, how much money have we raised? I can already

23:28

see the bar moving, moving, moving.

23:31

Let me remind you that today we want to reach

23:33

one million.

23:34

And the money we raise during this broadcast

23:36

will be directed toward

23:37

paying fines for those who, those who

23:43

have been fined.

23:45

Will Navalny be nominated through a call

23:47

from PARNAS (the Russian opposition party) or by an initiative group? We

23:49

were asked—Dmitry Anufriev asks:

23:52

how do you view Katz’s forecast about

23:53

the prospects of both options? Well,

23:55

these forecasts have neither

23:57

legal nor political meaning. From the very beginning, we

23:59

have said that I would

24:01

run as the nominee of a group of voters. That

24:03

will be the movement itself; a nomination from

24:05

PARNAS is impossible, unnecessary, and has

24:08

no legal significance whatsoever. That is, I

24:10

consider myself a candidate who

24:12

truly represents large

24:14

groups of people that are much broader than

24:16

the PARNAS party.

24:17

With all due respect for it,

24:19

that’s why I want to be nominated by

24:21

the voters; that’s how I’ll run. And in the near

24:23

future we plan to hold, we plan to hold

24:28

a meeting of such an initiative

24:30

group.

24:32

Artyom asks me what will happen to those

24:34

people who have already taken out a mortgage at 10

24:36

percent annual interest for 15 years. He

24:38

is apparently asking me in connection

24:40

obviously, with

24:43

the publication of the program provisions stating

24:45

that I believe mortgage rates should be reduced

24:48

to 2 percent—they should be below two percent.

24:50

And so Artyom asks the question:

24:52

“Alexei Navalny, you’ll most likely become

24:54

president in 2018, so what

24:56

am I supposed to do? I’ve already taken one out at 10 percent.”

24:58

Artyom, in that case the obvious thing

25:00

should happen: banks will revise those

25:04

contracts, which in fact happens

25:06

all the time.

25:07

In developed countries—Leonid Volkov, who

25:10

is still being held in a special detention facility

25:12

in Nizhny Novgorod, told me that when

25:13

he took out a mortgage for a home in Luxembourg

25:15

—yes, he was working in Luxembourg—he initially

25:17

got a mortgage at 1.75 percent

25:20

annual interest, and then the bank sent a notice

25:21

saying, as you know, the central bank’s key rate has been lowered,

25:24

so we will revise it

25:26

unilaterally, and now the rate

25:28

will be 1.5—that is, they lowered it. And here

25:30

the same thing should happen. Alexei,

25:38

please comment on Meduza’s article

25:40

about your program. First of all,

25:44

today on Vladimir

25:45

Milov’s program, he and I discussed

25:48

the program in quite some detail. We will continue

25:49

to talk about it for another hour; I’ll say more about

25:51

that a bit later. As I understand it, Milov

25:54

is preparing a point-by-point response

25:58

to Meduza’s criticism of our program,

26:01

the criticism and the questions they raised. We

26:03

are grateful for all the questions; we are grateful

26:05

to everyone who criticizes or praises us.

26:07

The main thing is: discuss it. We’re happy that

26:10

people are discussing it. Look at the other would-be

26:12

presidential candidates—have you ever seen an article

26:14

in

26:15

Meduza about Yavlinsky’s program,

26:18

or Titov’s, or Sobchak’s, or Katya Gordon’s? I

26:21

hope there will be—it would be

26:22

interesting to compare. But I looked at this

26:25

critique that Meduza has just

26:26

published, and it seems rather weak to me.

26:28

It doesn’t stand up to any serious

26:31

analysis. For example, it begins by saying

26:32

that Alexei Navalny did not explain to us

26:35

happy holidays, and someone writes to us

26:37

Alexei Navalny did not explain at what

26:39

prices he was using, or where he got these figures

26:42

that he uses in his video, although in

26:43

that video it says that these figures

26:46

were taken from the consolidated budget for 2016

26:48

the last budget for which

26:50

full execution data has been published. I

26:53

say there that I am a real

26:55

candidate, and I am working now with specific

26:58

figures. These specific figures I took

27:00

from the actual 2016 budget because

27:02

I want to discuss not a hypothetical

27:05

situation in the economy, but a completely

27:07

specific one. But we are grateful for all these

27:09

questions, and we will answer them one by one there

27:12

Volodimir Lov, I hope, will publish tomorrow

27:15

such a

27:17

[music]

27:18

will publish such an answer. An important

27:21

question is written to me by Arrakhat: the spiritual leader

27:23

of Russian Buddhists, the Dalai Lama, under

27:25

Putin's rule, has almost never

27:26

been to Russia. As a result, pilgrims

27:29

have to spend tens of thousands of rubles on

27:31

travel. Under your presidency, will it

27:32

be permitted for the Dalai Lama to come? You can

27:34

find some very funny photos on the

27:37

internet if you google "Navalny and

27:39

the Dalai Lama." That is, no, unfortunately I have not

27:40

met the Dalai Lama, I have never seen him

27:42

but once I was one of the organizers

27:44

of a picket, you'll laugh, in front of the Ministry

27:48

of Foreign Affairs, demanding that the Dalai Lama

27:52

be allowed into Russia. A whole

27:53

delegation of Buddhists from Kalmykia

27:56

and Buryatia came. I filed the application, we helped, so

27:59

you will definitely find photos where

28:01

I am standing there, surrounded by a bunch of people

28:04

in some kind of orange outfits and such

28:06

robes, with signs, and they, they were still

28:09

chanting: "We demand that

28:14

the Dalai Lama be allowed to visit Russia." You

28:16

understand, it's hard to chant that, but they

28:19

really were chanting it right in front of

28:20

the Foreign Ministry building. Those were the blessed

28:22

days when you could file an application for a picket

28:25

in front of the Foreign Ministry and get approval for

28:28

a picket there. I know the Chinese will

28:31

be very angry with me, but I do not

28:33

see any problem with the Dalai Lama

28:36

visiting Russia, especially considering that

28:38

Russia has traditional

28:40

Buddhist populations: the Kalmyks and Buryats

28:43

who practice Buddhism. He is their

28:46

religious leader, so why not

28:48

let him in? By all means, let him come. He

28:50

has visited Russia before, it's just that

28:52

under Putin he is not allowed in

28:55

One year and one day ago, I announced

28:59

that I was running for president, and

29:02

this time, for me and for many

29:06

people working here at the FBK headquarters (Anti-Corruption Foundation),

29:08

has of course been very compressed; it feels

29:10

like it was just recently, yet a whole year

29:13

has passed, because we have worked very, very

29:15

hard. And guys, everyone who is watching this broadcast

29:18

now or who will watch it later,

29:19

the main thing I want to say, of course,

29:22

is that I am tremendously grateful to all of you for

29:25

taking part in the campaign. In fact,

29:28

we often write about how, I don't know,

29:31

they squeeze us, illegally obstruct us,

29:34

interfere with us, open cases, and

29:37

arrest people. All of that is real, I repeat

29:40

the campaign manager is in jail right now, but

29:42

the main thing we have encountered, the main thing I

29:44

have encountered, is of course help and

29:46

support. That has made up 90, 99

29:51

percent of what we have been doing, and the atmosphere

29:53

we have been in has been one of support and

29:56

help. One percent has been obstacles

29:58

it's just that we write about that constantly because it

30:00

hits hard when people end up somewhere under

30:02

arrest or under pressure. But mainly

30:06

of course, this, this, this campaign is moving forward. I

30:08

am not summing it up

30:10

but it is going on, developing, and it's really great

30:12

just last week

30:15

I came back from another tour, and there were

30:18

wonderful, absolutely amazing

30:21

rallies

30:22

and even marches in the city of Kaliningrad. We

30:24

pulled it off, it was really great, and I am proud

30:27

that I have received your support. I am

30:29

proud that we have truly created

30:31

a political system of 83 campaign offices across

30:35

the whole country, 13 of them are so-called

30:37

people's offices, where we do not even provide any money

30:39

people do it entirely on their own

30:42

We now have almost 700,000

30:45

signatures, and signatures are not just email addresses

30:47

these are people who left their phone numbers and

30:48

verified themselves fully, or rather, not

30:51

fully verified by coming to the office, but

30:52

confirmed themselves through their mobile phones

30:55

We have recruited 190,000 volunteers, and

30:59

raised and spent 241 million rubles, and held an

31:04

uncountable number of pickets and

31:06

meetings. We held two major

31:09

nationwide rallies that

31:11

took place in dozens and even hundreds

31:13

of cities across Russia on March 26 and June 12

31:17

Since September 15 alone, I have held 27 major

31:21

rallies, really large ones

31:23

in cities across Russia, despite the fact that

31:25

we are simply forbidden everywhere from holding them

31:27

everywhere there are problems, and it has to be

31:29

done in spite of that. So this is a very

31:32

cool, real election campaign, and

31:34

most importantly, I would not for a second

31:37

be disingenuous if I told you now:

31:40

I traveled around cities, held these

31:43

meetings, some were good, some were different

31:46

somewhere in Volgograd, remember, they grabbed me by the arms and

31:47

by the legs

31:48

provocateurs with badges tried to drag me out of

31:50

the office, or rather, they were dragging the provocateur by the legs

31:52

Our volunteers were practically carrying me along, and

31:55

then somehow all of this was happening without any obstruction,

31:58

but I know one thing: this government can be beaten

32:02

at the polls. All this talk

32:05

that they’re so powerful and enjoy

32:08

massive support—if you work, if

32:11

you travel from city to city like this, put out

32:13

a platform, talk about it—you can

32:15

win elections against them. But that’s exactly why they

32:17

won’t let me in, won’t allow it, because they

32:19

understand that perfectly well. All these

32:22

approval ratings exist when there’s nothing else,

32:24

when a Russian citizen looks at the TV

32:26

and says, “Damn, I’m sick of everyone,”

32:29

“I don’t like Putin, he doesn’t pay my salary,”

32:31

“but who am I supposed to vote for? Vote

32:34

for someone else? Fine, I voted for Putin.” That’s

32:37

the only thing this system is standing on: the fact that

32:40

the other candidates do nothing. Right now they’ve

32:42

woken up from hibernation and gone out there

32:45

hoping they’ll get more than three

32:46

percent and qualify for

32:48

state funding, and then they’ll be given

32:50

a pile of money from the budget. They’re not really

32:52

interested in anything else.

32:53

Going somewhere and campaigning to people doesn’t

32:56

interest them. But I travel and campaign, and I see

32:58

that people’s opinions change. You come to

33:01

the city of Kaliningrad, and everyone knows

33:04

who you are. Whether they support you or not,

33:06

at the very least, in Kaliningrad or in

33:09

Novokuznetsk or somewhere else, everyone definitely

33:11

says: “Right, Navalny came to us,”

33:13

“he campaigned here, he paid attention to us,”

33:16

“he came, he answered questions while standing

33:20

out in the cold, like a candidate should.” So

33:22

that makes him stand out from the other candidates, and we

33:24

can support him simply because he

33:27

came to our city. Moscow is

33:29

more or less spoiled in that respect, but here

33:31

there are at least some political events.

33:33

In Russia’s regions, especially in cities

33:35

with fewer than a million people, basically no one

33:38

ever comes, nothing happens there. These

33:40

people don’t even remotely feel that they

33:44

have any influence on politics

33:46

in the country, let alone on presidential

33:48

elections. So go to them, and you’ll get

33:50

support. I got that kind of support, and I’m

33:52

proud of it. It’s really great, what

33:56

we’re doing, and we need to keep

33:59

doing it. You can see Kaliningrad now—

34:00

we were there,

34:02

the photos show a pretty powerful,

34:04

inspiring rally. On my cup it says:

34:10

“I have a platform. You don’t.”

34:12

And that’s the plain truth, because today

34:14

we still haven’t heard what Vladimir Putin’s

34:16

platform is. I do have a platform, and we’ve

34:20

published it. I just wanted to draw attention

34:22

to the fact that this isn’t something Navalny

34:24

published yesterday. The platform

34:26

has been there from the very beginning. I’ve been involved

34:29

in politics for a long time.

34:30

I’ve had a whole system of views and policy positions, and

34:33

almost all of you are fairly well

34:35

aware of them.

34:36

I ran with a platform in the

34:40

2013 mayoral election.

34:42

For a long time I’ve been involved with various parties and have constantly written

34:45

all kinds of articles. I think that

34:49

when it comes to political and journalistic

34:51

texts, I’ve probably written

34:55

more than all the other politicians put

34:57

together—simply because I was forced to.

34:59

I don’t have television access, so I wrote in my blog.

35:01

I write about this, I write about my system of

35:04

views, so yes, I do have a platform. But

35:05

this time we also packaged it, as it seems to me,

35:08

quite successfully, because we

35:11

decided, as Putin said today,

35:15

to put it in language people can understand.

35:17

So that’s exactly the kind of language we used for everything. I’m

35:19

very proud that we came up with these

35:22

case studies for Russia—that is,

35:25

translating policy points into the lives of

35:27

specific people. And I’ve received a whole lot of letters

35:29

saying it’s impossible to watch

35:31

the story of the teacher who

35:33

earns 14,800 rubles a month (about US$250 at the time), or the doctor’s story,

35:35

or all the other stories, without tears. And if you had seen

35:37

the full video about Nikolai

35:39

Kudryavtsev, then you definitely would have

35:41

broken down in tears. He’s a wonderful man,

35:43

a teacher from Yaroslavl.

35:45

Yaroslavl is actually considered one of the wealthier regions

35:46

of Russia, and he gets 14,800 rubles a month (about US$250 at the time) for one and a half

35:49

full-time positions, including extra pay for difficult working conditions,

35:53

because he works at a boarding school for hearing-impaired

35:54

children. It’s just impossible. What we wanted

35:58

was to show all this through the example of specific people

36:01

and explain to many of those who haven’t

36:04

been touched by it that this is actually

36:07

the reality for most of Russia. Nikolai

36:10

Kudryavtsev is not some kind of, you know,

36:13

isolated case from an otherwise prosperous society,

36:14

some extreme situation where we all have to rush out and

36:16

save him. No—the greater part of the country is made up of people like

36:19

Nikolai Kudryavtsev.

36:21

And we need to do something so that

36:23

this stops being the case, because it’s impossible—

36:25

everything simply becomes meaningless if

36:29

a teacher earns 14,800 rubles a month (about US$250 at the time).

36:31

I got several letters saying that

36:33

we should invite him onto Navalny

36:35

Live. In fact, all the people we’re doing

36:38

these case studies with should be invited here and given

36:40

more time to speak.

36:43

I think we’ll do that.

36:45

That’s a good idea. I’ve received 148 new questions.

36:47

Let’s take a look. “Did Vladimir

36:51

Vladimirovich (a familiar form of patronymic for Putin) misspeak when he said that fair

36:53

and honest political competition will exist,

36:55

thereby admitting that it doesn’t exist now?” one viewer writes.

36:57

But I’ll repeat: this time he spoke quite cynically,

37:03

and said quite clearly that

37:05

there is no political competition. Why?

37:06

Because we do not want political competition.”

37:08

competition, and we do not believe it is right.

37:13

So Gennady Nes... says to us that

37:18

Navalny and Sobchak are a Kremlin project aimed at

37:20

replacing personnel while genuinely

37:22

banning truly opposition parties from printing

37:25

their own press—for example, *Kurs Pravdy* and

37:29

*Yedineniye* in the Lipetsk region. As I understand it,

37:31

those are the only newspapers

37:33

representing an honest position—*Kurs Pravdy*, *Yedineniye*—in

37:37

the Lipetsk region.

37:38

So does that mean I’m a Kremlin project too, Denis? Well,

37:42

we are also being forbidden to print newspapers in

37:44

the Lipetsk region as well, so believe me, I am not

37:46

a Kremlin project, and

37:47

judge us by our actions—look at what we do.

37:51

Look at our campaign, how the authorities treat us,

37:53

that is the main thing. Look

37:55

at whether we suddenly popped up and are helping

37:58

the Kremlin solve certain problems, or whether

38:01

we are creating those problems. Then you will see

38:04

that for the past year we have been working and creating

38:07

very serious problems for those guys.

38:09

We are definitely not solving anything for them. Starting tomorrow,

38:12

will it already be forbidden to donate or campaign? writes

38:14

Baranov Alex. Tomorrow there will likely

38:18

be an announcement of the election. Most likely,

38:21

the Central Election Commission

38:22

will officially launch the start of the election

38:25

campaign.

38:26

That will mean that from that moment on I

38:29

will have to specially

38:31

label campaign materials and things like that.

38:35

But until that moment, and until

38:40

I receive registration or at least

38:42

enter the formal procedure and submit

38:44

the documents, of course we can

38:45

raise money, and we can do everything else

38:47

as well—there will be no restrictions. Well,

38:51

we’ll see. Tomorrow the Central Election

38:53

Commission is supposed to

38:54

publish it. So, Inferno Overkill,

39:00

wow, what a username you have.

39:03

The Kremlin bots are disliking again, well,

39:05

listen, they’re disliking—so what? It’s nothing

39:06

to worry about. If 22,000 people are watching

39:08

the livestream right now, then all of you should

39:10

hit like right now at the same time.

39:13

Let’s get all 26 thousand—twenty-six,

39:17

twenty-six thousand likes. And what a cute GIF.

39:19

Who smells so bad? Ah, the scurvy ones. There are 26 thousand

39:22

people watching.

39:23

Hit like, and then no Kremlin bots

39:26

will be scary. We just need to stop, even a little,

39:30

paying attention to it. They

39:33

have created a structure and pumped money into it.

39:35

Putin’s cook (a reference to Yevgeny Prigozhin) is most likely behind it.

39:37

They will push their videos to the top of

39:39

YouTube, and they will bury

39:42

all the other videos in dislikes.

39:43

This will go on for months, and possibly even years.

39:46

As long as Putin remains in power, they will be there

39:48

disliking every video. It’s nothing страшного.

39:51

The way to fight it is, in response,

39:53

to like the videos. In any case, there are far more of us—real people—

39:55

than all of these Kremlin bots.

39:58

It’s a huge mistake not to respond to donations and

40:00

many people want to ask a question and are ready

40:02

to donate money for that. Writes

40:03

Ivan. That’s absolutely right, Ivan. As I already

40:06

said, I have one problem, and it is entirely

40:09

technical. We’ll try to solve it. Right now

40:13

I’m looking into the camera and at the same time

40:15

looking at the screen where I can see myself. I

40:17

see GIFs,

40:18

I see messages, but if you write

40:20

a question yourselves and pay for it

40:23

so that it appears in that corner behind me,

40:26

it appears there, but I simply won’t see it. I’ll

40:28

have to do this like this. You don’t want

40:30

that, do you? We’ll figure something out later.

40:33

After they splashed me with brilliant green antiseptic dye (zelyonka) (a common attack on Russian opposition figures), my

40:35

vision got a little worse.

40:36

It’s not sharp enough for me to

40:38

read those questions off the screen. That’s our

40:41

problem, and we’ll solve it. We do not want to make money from this.

40:43

It’s a pity that I

40:48

am a citizen of Kazakhstan and cannot

40:49

vote for Navalny, writes Ramis

40:51

Sadygov. In any case,

40:53

you can still support us or say a few

40:55

kind words. I remember all of Kazakhstan came down

40:57

on me because somewhere in

40:59

some interview I said that I did not know

41:01

the poet Abai (Abai Qunanbaiuly, a foundational Kazakh poet). After that, by the way,

41:03

while I was in the special detention center, they handed me three

41:05

volumes of Abai, and I became very well acquainted with his

41:08

work. But in any case, I’m glad

41:11

that someone is watching us from Kazakhstan, and I

41:14

have atoned for my guilt before the Kazakh

41:16

people for having once said

41:18

that I did not know Abai. This is an extremely

41:23

important story that is happening right now.

41:27

Wait, Dendera asks: Alexei,

41:30

please briefly explain—when is candidate registration,

41:31

and when does signature collection begin? Look,

41:33

if the election is announced tomorrow, then before

41:36

the New Year there must be a meeting of

41:39

voters.

41:40

Putin will hold his own voters’ meeting

41:42

on December 24, most likely.

41:45

They say it will be at VDNKh (a major exhibition complex in Moscow); they’re preparing whole pavilions there.

41:47

And around those same days, we will also

41:51

hold our own voters’ meeting. We

41:53

have it harder than Putin does, and

41:57

let me get out from behind this GIF.

41:58

We have it harder than Putin does. It is

42:01

difficult for us to find a venue. It has to be

42:03

fairly large—big enough for 1,000 people—because

42:05

500 people take part there just in

42:08

the voters’ group, plus journalists.

42:10

So, in other words, we need to find a venue for about a thousand people.

42:12

They are not giving us a venue, and we are dealing with that

42:14

issue right now. After that, we take the

42:17

documents to the Central

42:18

Election Commission.

42:19

The Election Commission registers me as a candidate, and

42:22

then we collect signatures.

42:24

And that must happen after the New Year.

42:26

And precisely because Putin has

42:30

a meeting scheduled

42:32

with his voter initiative group on December 24, there is now

42:35

an extremely, extremely interesting

42:37

story unfolding. You remember, we got elected

42:42

municipal deputies in Moscow and

42:44

loudly discussed how this was a victory, and many

42:47

municipal councils, that is,

42:50

had been taken over politically — there was a majority there.

42:52

I wasn’t all that actively involved in this

42:54

process, but there was one municipal

42:55

council where we very actively

42:57

supported the candidates, and Ilya

43:00

Yashin was running there, and he got his whole team elected

43:02

and became the head of the municipal

43:05

council in the Krasnoselsky District of Moscow.

43:06

He has a majority there, and they

43:11

started working quite actively.

43:12

They’re doing all sorts of good things,

43:14

including demonstrative, principled political

43:16

things. For example, Yashin refused

43:18

the official car that he

43:19

was entitled to, because why would the head of a

43:21

municipal council of deputies need an official

43:23

car, when he can use

43:25

public transportation or

43:27

drive his own car? Why on earth should

43:29

Moscow taxpayers

43:31

have to pay for an official car? So he

43:33

said, quite rightly: I’m refusing it, and this

43:35

money should be redirected to social taxi services

43:37

so wheelchair users can be transported

43:39

for free.

43:40

So, besides these proper

43:43

social initiatives, they’re also doing the right

43:45

political things. In particular,

43:49

when they had just been elected, many people

43:51

laughed at the fact that among their

43:53

powers — which are fairly limited —

43:55

there is such a thing as organizing local

43:58

holidays, organizing and holding

44:00

local celebrations. There’s also

44:01

the organization of patriotic activities,

44:03

work with the military commissariat, and things like that. But organizing

44:05

local holidays — those who live in Moscow

44:07

have seen these holidays a million times. It’s

44:09

some event, I don’t know, in some park

44:12

somewhere,

44:13

a celebration called something like “We Are Cheerful”

44:16

and

44:17

“We Bake Mari Pancakes,” or whatever

44:19

“Happy Kapotnya” or “Joyful Lianozovo” is called.

44:22

These kinds of events happen all the time:

44:24

some middle-aged ladies stand in the square,

44:27

doing something, schoolchildren dance, all sorts of

44:30

things like that. In other words, it always

44:31

has no political

44:33

context. But this municipal council

44:35

in Krasnoselsky got together there,

44:37

heard the matter, passed a resolution, voted,

44:39

by majority vote, and established a holiday

44:42

called the Day of Free

44:44

Elections, and it will take place on December 24 on their

44:49

territory. In Krasnoselsky there is

44:51

Lermontov Square

44:52

— Lermontovsky Square, to be precise —

44:53

located right next to

44:55

the Krasnye Vorota metro station. They said: Muscovites,

44:57

we invite all of you to the Day of Free

45:01

Elections. This is one hundred percent

45:03

in line with the charter of this

45:06

municipality and with Moscow law.

45:08

But City Hall immediately

45:12

went into full panic. And not just City Hall — it was

45:16

clear that some

45:18

federal-level

45:18

forces were involved here, because yesterday on Rossiya-2 (a Russian state TV channel)

45:22

there was an absolutely hellish TV segment aired.

45:24

I’ll show you a small excerpt from this

45:25

segment now, but really,

45:27

we haven’t seen anything like this since 2012.

45:30

Let’s watch a little piece of it.

45:32

I read with bewilderment in the media a statement by

45:34

some clerk from Moscow City Hall.

45:36

Ilya Yashin, on his Facebook page, is outraged over

45:38

the ban on the so-called Day

45:41

of Free Elections on December 24.

45:47

Back when they worked together in Yabloko (a Russian liberal political party),

45:49

Navalny and Yashin had close

45:52

contacts with representatives of American

45:54

international institutions. However, it’s not only

45:56

with Navalny’s circle that they have someone to cooperate with.

45:59

There are partners in the “near abroad” (former Soviet states) as well. They say that last

46:01

week, the Krasnoselsky municipal deputy was visited by none other than

46:03

none other than

46:04

Heinrich, a citizen of Ukraine, who spoke personally with

46:07

Yashin

46:08

and proposed establishing an exchange of experience

46:09

in municipal governance with the people’s

46:11

representatives of “Nezalezhnaya” (a sarcastic reference to independent Ukraine). What a joke.

46:16

So, as you can see, this is just completely insane.

46:19

Some Ukrainian named Heinrich — I

46:22

call Yashin. We’ve raised a million rubles on air (about 10,000 USD at the time), everyone.

46:24

Congratulations, we’ve raised one million rubles

46:26

live on Navalny LIVE. I applaud all of you.

46:28

The money raised today will go to those who

46:32

were detained and those against whom

46:34

fines were imposed. We are continuing to raise money.

46:38

Let me continue talking about Yashin and about

46:40

this segment. I call Yashin and say:

46:43

“So, did this Ukrainian Heinrich come to see you, or did they

46:47

just make up some Ukrainian?”

46:49

And what a name they came up with — really,

46:53

they might as well have said, “A man came in,”

46:56

“to the administration of the Krasnoselsky District,”

46:58

“he spoke with a German

47:01

accent,”

47:02

“and his name was Adolf.” That’s the only thing

47:04

missing here. It’s just

47:07

utter madness. And we really didn’t understand

47:09

why they were so worked up. A rally — or not even a rally,

47:12

but a holiday event — people will come

47:14

to this celebration, so what’s the big deal? And then

47:16

it turns out that on that very same day Putin

47:20

scheduled the nomination meeting of his

47:22

voter initiative group, so he really does not want

47:25

two events to be taking place

47:27

simultaneously: the Day of Free Elections, where

47:30

Many people, obviously, will point to

47:32

the fact that elections in Russia are not at all

47:34

free, and that this event is one where they

47:36

will keep feeding people nonsense

47:37

through the state apparatus: everything is fair, everything is wonderful,

47:39

and we will defeat everyone, and all that.

47:42

This confrontation between the Kremlin and, clearly,

47:45

a group of brave deputies from Moscow's

47:48

district councils is one of the most interesting

47:49

political stories right now, because

47:51

other deputies have already started supporting them.

47:53

The council of the Konkovo district

47:56

has adopted a decision in their support. Just now,

47:59

I saw that Dmitry Gudkov published

48:02

a letter in which nearly 100 municipal

48:05

deputies

48:06

spoke out in support of Yashin, and

48:09

really, in no uncertain terms, declared:

48:13

we call on everyone to come to this

48:15

festival. This is very important because, well,

48:17

many of these people are, how to put it

48:21

without offending anyone, cautious. So,

48:25

when it comes to an unauthorized event, will we go to an

48:26

unauthorized rally or not? We won't. But here,

48:28

even though in general they ban them, here

48:31

the prosecutor's office literally brought over today

48:34

this evening some kind of order that is absolutely

48:37

illegal. Do we have the video? If we do,

48:38

let's show it. The prosecutor's office came to

48:40

Yashin.

48:42

They recorded the text—let's show

48:46

the receipt of this document.

48:50

So, in the official log, personally...

48:52

in the presence of citizen

48:55

Boris Lisovich,

48:57

born on May 1, 1963, residing at

49:02

the address: Moscow, Akademika

49:03

Volgina Street, building 23, apartment 131. His

49:07

passport details... and that's it. So,

49:15

you see how interesting this is.

49:16

City Hall, the Kremlin, the prosecutor's office—they have very clearly

49:19

stated, essentially,

49:22

that they understand this is illegal, because

49:24

one hundred percent

49:26

municipal deputies have the right to

49:29

do this. Please show the screenshot. There is

49:31

Article 8, Clause 8 of the law on the organization of

49:34

local self-government, which states in black and white

49:36

that they have the right to organize

49:39

local festive

49:41

and other public entertainment events. That is,

49:43

there is simply no way to argue with that at all.

49:45

You just can't argue with it. But nevertheless,

49:48

they are now, across all channels and

49:51

through the media and the prosecutor's office, declaring that it is completely

49:54

impossible and that they will ban it. But despite

49:57

this, even fairly cautious people

49:59

are saying: we are going anyway. One hundred

50:01

deputies signed in support of Yashin.

50:03

They didn't just sign—they appealed to

50:05

all the other deputies and to Muscovites, saying:

50:08

friends, we are all coming to Lermontovsky

50:10

Square on the 24th for the Day of Free Elections. This is

50:13

a festival organized by deputies.

50:16

They have the right to organize it. This is not

50:19

a situation where, as usual, Alexei

50:21

Navalny filed an application for a rally and City Hall

50:23

says, well, Navalny is there

50:25

running around the streets like Saakashvili (former Georgian president often invoked in Russian political rhetoric),

50:27

so they won't allow it because it obstructs

50:28

pedestrians. These are the authorities—municipal

50:31

deputies.

50:32

This is the government, and the government has made a decision to

50:34

hold a festival. In other words, this is not

50:37

an application for a rally that can be rejected

50:39

or where they can say that some other people managed

50:41

to file earlier than you. They literally had

50:43

some commission on social issues

50:45

meeting, a vote, all the paperwork, the whole

50:48

process. These are actual officials—well,

50:50

municipal officials, in fact—

50:51

who made the decision, and now federal

50:54

officials are trying to stop them, while other

50:56

municipal officials, meanwhile,

50:58

are backing them up. Very interesting.

51:00

Let's watch how all this unfolds. And of course,

51:03

all of us should take advantage of this and

51:07

accept the invitation

51:09

to take part in this festival, the Day of Free

51:12

Elections. So I will try

51:14

to definitely come. Twenty-six thousand people

51:19

are watching right now—well, if you are watching,

51:20

can you send money using the new cards too?

51:22

Send it?

51:23

How much have we raised already? More than

51:26

1,015,000 rubles (about 11,000 USD), so we have already beaten

51:29

our, our

51:31

our target. But remember, we are raising this money

51:34

for those who were fined for

51:37

taking part in rallies. Tomorrow, if you are fined,

51:38

we will raise money for you too.

51:40

So, there is still no proper

51:44

law that would truly protect

51:46

homeless animals. We are being asked by animal rights

51:48

activists who are pushing for the adoption of this

51:51

document.

51:53

Animal rights defenders are doing great work. At almost

51:56

every rally I go to, I am

51:58

asked about this law. I am constantly

52:00

asked about it on air. This is actually

52:03

the right kind of work: forcing

52:05

presidential candidates to speak about their

52:07

position. I said on the previous program,

52:09

and I will say again that I absolutely

52:11

support the adoption of this law and do not

52:13

understand why it is not being passed in the

52:14

State Duma (Russia's lower house of parliament). Yes, of course, there is

52:16

a certain hunting lobby

52:18

connected with hunting dogs.

52:22

There is also a lobby of those who believe that

52:25

animal shelters for stray animals

52:28

should not have to be maintained by municipalities. But

52:30

overall,

52:31

it is possible to come to an agreement with hunters.

52:32

Hunters, in the overwhelming majority of cases,

52:34

are actually great lovers of animals.

52:37

And as for the municipalities, it is simply

52:40

sheer stupidity on the part of the authorities that this is not being adopted.

52:42

The law—Alexei, will you seek to organize

52:44

Putin's impeachment in the event of his victory in the

52:46

election?

52:47

Denis Denis asks me: in accordance

52:49

with Russian law, to carry out an

52:51

impeachment—first of all, we citizens simply

52:53

cannot do that. Deputies can, but

52:56

in practice it is impossible. The thing is,

52:58

the impeachment law is written in such a way that it

53:02

cannot be implemented. But of course, if he

53:05

doesn't allow anyone onto the ballot and then

53:06

stages a victory, then we will not

53:08

accept his rule. We will work

53:09

to ensure that no one recognizes

53:12

his authority. What will you do with Putin's squad?

53:15

Andryukha asks me: Putin's squad—

53:17

these are just some athletes,

53:19

performers. These people will always swear loyalty

53:22

to whatever power exists. Do you know what I'll do with them?

53:24

I won't force them to create

53:27

a Navalny squad. I won't force

53:28

them to humiliate themselves the way they are humiliating themselves now.

53:31

Why are they lining up behind Putin? Because

53:33

their sports careers, their money, their

53:36

shows and productions depend very heavily

53:39

on Putin, on the authorities, and so they

53:41

crawl over there like lackeys and kiss his

53:43

little boots, creating Putin squads. But I will not

53:45

do that. I have no use for it.

53:48

I just want to give all these Dobbys back their

53:50

socks so they can go off and mind

53:52

their own business. Alexei, do you have

53:58

a pet? Victoria asks me.

53:59

I used to have a dog, a French

54:01

bulldog named Snoopy.

54:03

Dasha had a guinea pig—

54:07

no, I remember, a Djungarian hamster.

54:09

A Djungarian hamster. Her name was Zoya, but she

54:10

unfortunately died too. They really don't

54:14

live very long. We have five minutes

54:18

left, and in those five minutes I'll show you

54:20

two disgusting videos—truly

54:22

disgusting videos. Let's start with

54:25

the son of the head of the Investigative Committee

54:30

in Volgograd Region.

54:32

This man works as an investigator. He

54:34

also works for the Investigative Committee, but in

54:36

Moscow. And he got involved in some drunken

54:38

brawl, and today the police tried

54:41

to detain him.

54:42

And they weren't having much success.

54:48

We have the video—let's watch it.

54:56

[inaudible]

54:57

[inaudible]

55:02

[inaudible]

55:07

Please, you need to keep your hands—

55:09

tell us if you're recording, let us know.

55:12

Investigative Committee... brother. [inaudible]

55:16

I am the subject's... [inaudible] You saw in that

55:19

picture, in that video—usually

55:21

these are, you know, funny little sketches from the lives

55:23

of alcoholics, homeless people, or someone else. But this

55:26

is power. This is real power.

55:28

It's not just some investigator—it's the son

55:31

of the head of the Investigative Committee in

55:34

one of the largest federal subjects (regions) in Russia—

55:36

Volgograd Region.

55:37

There's a city of over a million people there, plus the whole region.

55:39

And by the way, why this especially

55:42

struck me: the father of this

55:44

gentleman is the one who fabricated the criminal

55:48

case against Alexei Volkov, our chief

55:51

in Volgograd.

55:52

That same ridiculous case over

55:55

a Photoshop image on the internet—they opened a case

55:57

against him for, what was the formal charge again,

55:59

let me put it correctly, desecration of

56:01

symbols—no, justification of Nazism. In other words,

56:04

complete nonsense, absolutely. But those brazen scumbags

56:08

kept him under house arrest, then

56:11

transported him from St. Petersburg, and put out

56:14

various press releases saying that

56:16

this Volkov, with his picture on the

56:18

internet, where he had photoshopped something,

56:20

was therefore an enemy of the state. And these

56:22

same people—these drunk mugs, this 'subject' crowd—

56:25

who don't even—well, fine, not to us,

56:28

they say all this—they don't even treat the police officers

56:30

who come and film them there

56:32

with any respect. He's not so drunk that he can't see

56:34

he's being filmed. He genuinely

56:37

thinks he's in the right. His father will

56:39

protect him—and his father will indeed protect him.

56:42

Just watch.

56:43

Probably after a video like this, this

56:46

fellow will be fired, but nothing will happen in the Investigative Committee

56:47

to his father, because

56:49

his father opens these kinds of

56:51

criminal cases for Putin, fabricates criminal cases

56:54

like the one they brought against our guy.

56:56

And as long as he keeps doing these things

57:01

for this regime, these people remain

57:03

completely unpunished.

57:05

That's why we need to go to the polls

57:06

to drive them all the hell out.

57:09

This whole gang of boors—

57:12

who put on blue suits

57:15

and shoulder boards and tell all of us to our faces:

57:17

'We are the masters here.' And not just to us—

57:19

they say it to the police too.

57:21

Come on, brother. Next one.

57:23

The second disgusting video is perhaps even

57:25

more disgusting. I want to show you

57:26

the apology that TNT (a Russian TV channel) made

57:31

to the Ingush people. It seems to me this is

57:35

even more insulting to the Ingush people

57:38

than the original offense. The background is this: TNT

57:42

had a comedy show with some kind of sketch.

57:44

The sketch was rather odd, not

57:46

very funny, and it was supposedly from the life

57:48

of prostitutes. So, the madam—

57:50

their pimp—reads something out and says,

57:52

they answer, and one of the prostitutes

57:54

starts saying something they don't

57:55

understand, and someone says, 'Oh, I know—'

57:58

'that's the Ingush language,' and that's where the girl was from—

57:59

from Ingushetia (a republic in Russia's North Caucasus).

58:04

Okay, it wasn't a funny sketch, yes, it was just all...

58:09

The others were speaking Russian.

58:11

Without an accent, which made it obvious that they were

58:12

Russian. One of them was from Ingushetia (a republic in Russia), and

58:16

there were some signs they were bandits

58:19

or some kind of strange armed men.

58:21

They just showed up at TNT and

58:24

demanded an apology in front of the whole honest

58:26

public, and to our great surprise and amazement

58:32

they were not taken away by the police, and nothing

58:35

happened. And TNT first

58:38

apologized there, so to speak, to the Ingush

58:40

people in one format, then in another

58:42

format, and now they have recorded an entire video

58:44

which we are about to watch now. Just try not to

58:46

throw up. Where are they all there,

58:49

seriously, where are they performing, and

58:51

they come across as completely disgusting, just

58:54

utter nonentities, and

58:56

and... well.

58:57

Let's watch it.

59:00

[music]

59:03

For 20 years, the TNT channel has been broadcasting across the entire

59:06

territory of Russia and the world, and over these 20 years the channel has

59:09

created hundreds of projects

59:12

in many multinational and diverse settings,

59:15

projects that bring people together. The TNT television channel

59:19

has always promoted love and

59:21

mutual understanding among people and nations, and throughout all

59:26

these years we have entertained and united

59:28

people and have never called for hostility or

59:31

hatred. And now we want to offer

59:33

an apology to our Ingush viewers for

59:36

the joke.

59:37

For hurting their feelings, we apologize

59:40

for the words and actions that offended

59:42

the great Ingush people.

59:44

And we, the entire multinational staff

59:49

of the channel, call on everyone who watches us

59:53

and loves us to be more tolerant

59:56

more respectful, and kinder to one another.

1:00:00

You know, I want to address the

1:00:03

Russian people: please look at

1:00:05

me, Ingush people, I... I want to

1:00:07

apologize to you for TNT's behavior, because

1:00:09

well, this is simply disgusting for the Ingush

1:00:13

people to watch.

1:00:15

What people? I don't know—any Ingush person whatsoever—and what does

1:00:17

some joke on TNT have to do with it?

1:00:19

They made a joke, whether successfully or unsuccessfully, and out of that

1:00:22

first some incomprehensible officials

1:00:25

or simply—God, I'm tired of this—bandits, or

1:00:28

I don't know, some strange illegal

1:00:30

groups decided to use this to

1:00:32

score political points and staged

1:00:34

a rampage at TNT.

1:00:36

And now this apology, because of which

1:00:38

ten times more people will watch that sketch.

1:00:40

Most importantly, it is impossible to insult

1:00:42

an entire people with a joke, whether successful or

1:00:45

unsuccessful. Okay, TNT,

1:00:48

I have a message for you then:

1:00:53

aren't you disgusted with yourselves? Then please,

1:00:56

apologize for Ravshan and

1:00:58

Jamshut to the Tajik people, and

1:01:00

I also remember you had those homeless characters, Siphon and

1:01:03

Boroda.

1:01:03

Please apologize to the Russian

1:01:05

people too. From now on, every time

1:01:07

you mock someone in some sketch—

1:01:08

which is the whole point of a sketch, the whole point

1:01:11

of humor is to laugh at something, including

1:01:14

laughing at such vicious

1:01:16

phenomena as prostitution—you yourselves

1:01:19

have mocked it. It is obvious that the general

1:01:22

context of the jokes is that we are discussing

1:01:25

what prostitution is; we are laughing at

1:01:27

certain sketches, slices of life, and

1:01:29

every time you show

1:01:31

well,

1:01:32

a Russian drunk or a Russian prostitute,

1:01:34

will you apologize to the Russian

1:01:36

people? You won't. And who are you after

1:01:39

that? This is disgusting, and it's servility. Well, I

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can understand it: some

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bearded bandits with Stechkin pistols

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came to you and started saying, 'Come on, Vasya, apologize right now,'

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and if you are going to apologize, then

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you shouldn't

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start joking in the first place; you shouldn't be doing

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this if you are such cowards and

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bootlickers.

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It's revolting for all of us to watch this.

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In the Beautiful Russia of the Future (an opposition slogan referring to a hoped-for democratic future for Russia),

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this definitely will not happen. In the Beautiful

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Russia of the Future, the Ingush people will say,

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'We don't care about you,' as Alisher Usmanov once said,

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'we don't even notice your jokes at all.'

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Well, this is just complete nonsense. And in the

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Beautiful Russia of the Future, people who

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host comedy shows—okay, they may

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apologize for a bad joke, maybe

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saying it wasn't funny, and they will

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try to joke better—but they will not

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take part in this shameful spectacle

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that has simply humiliated the whole country, because

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we have seen that the police, it turns out, in

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Russia do not work, that you can just show up and

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intimidate these miserable, cowardly

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TV hosts to such an extent that they

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will record ten different apologies

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and all the other viewers

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will be forced to become part of it too.

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Once again, we have become convinced that

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there is no state, there is no law-enforcement

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system; there is only

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some kind of order in which you show up,

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bearded

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guys with pistols, and people apologize to them.

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Which means that for those on whose behalf

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bearded guys with pistols do not show up,

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you can do whatever you want to them. That is

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not the kind of country we need. And in the Beautiful

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Russia of the Future, we will get rid of these shameful

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phenomena. Thank you very much to everyone

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who watched this broadcast, and to those who will watch

1:03:24

it later in the recording. Thank you very much to everyone

1:03:26

who donated money to us. We have raised

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—someone tell me now—1,059,000, we...

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So, Zephyr raised the full 200,000, and

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we’ll send this money to those who were fined.

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Well, see you next Thursday.

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Bye.

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