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whether

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Hello, dear

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residents of Kostroma. To be honest, I really

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doubted

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that there would be so many people here. Thank you very much

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to all of you for

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coming. Who am I? My name is Vladimir

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Andreichenko. I live in Kostroma, and I am taking part

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in this event called

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the primaries

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Since I am taking part in this,

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what the coalition is proposing

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resonates, I believe, with every ordinary

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resident of the region and, more broadly, of the country. That

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is, it means a free press,

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an independent judiciary, and rotation of power

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Believe me, as a former official, if someone

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says rotation of power is a good thing,

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that means something.

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So why am I convinced

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that in the

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coalition’s appeals I did not see

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any incitement to revolution. I did not

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see calls for rallies. What I saw

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were proposals and an invitation for ordinary people

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to try their hand at politics and

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solve their own

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problems. Another thing I liked

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about this principle

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of the coalition—being on the side of the people—is that it may not sound

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very lofty, but I believe it is a very

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serious responsibility to be on the side of

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the people. It is very hard to earn people’s trust,

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and even harder to preserve that

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trust. The program, the policy points

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being proposed by the

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Democratic

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Coalition—I can tell you that they do not

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contain a single threat to the Kostroma

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region. What is being proposed? Interbudgetary

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relations—that matters to us.

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Direct mayoral elections are important. And I believe that

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the people of Kostroma are capable of, and should, choose

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their mayor. Elections for governor without

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the municipal filter—that is normal.

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Corruption and embezzlement of public funds as well—after all,

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no one is going to say those are

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good things.

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For all these reasons, I am taking part in

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the primaries. The primaries were organized

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and their main driving forces were two

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political parties: the RPR

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PARNAS party and

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the

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Progress Party. My colleague and at the same time

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competitor

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in these primaries is a member of the political council

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of RPR

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PARNAS, Ilya Yashin. Yes, he lives in

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Moscow. He will now come up to this podium and

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tell you why he wants specifically to be on the

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side of the people of Kostroma, what he will tell you

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is that he came here not to deceive you, but

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that he is ready and wants to work for

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Kostroma and for the needs of Kostroma.

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Thank you. Hello, dear

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residents of Kostroma, I really did come from Moscow,

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and now I will tell you why I

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did it. Some time ago I received

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a letter, a letter from residents of Kostroma

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and the Kostroma region, in which they

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told me, essentially, what I already

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knew, what we all know: that

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for a long time now we have been

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conditioned to believe that we have no

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rights. We have been conditioned to

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the idea that who will represent our

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interests in the legislature is decided by others,

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who will be president is decided by others, what laws there will be

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is decided by others. I was asked to come here in order

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to freshen the air here. I am not

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connected either to officials or to oligarchs.

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I am a completely independent person, and I was

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asked to take part in the Democratic Coalition’s primaries

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here in

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Kostroma in order to run in the elections,

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become your candidate

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and defend your

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interests. And I have good news:

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for the first time in a long while, you and I

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have a chance to change something. For the first time in

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a long while, you and I have a chance

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to break this vicious circle, when you and I

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have no ability to influence

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anything. The same faces have been in

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parliament, in the Kremlin, and here in the Kostroma

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region for 15 years—the same faces. It is time to

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change something, because the faces are the same,

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but so are the same broken

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roads, and the same awful

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housing and коммунal services. Nothing

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changes. Let us try to change that.

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Right now we are holding primaries. Few people

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know what that is—it is an unfamiliar word.

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a list of candidates. We want

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to form a people’s list, not there in the

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quiet of offices, where politicians

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make deals among themselves, but when citizens

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themselves nominate their candidates. They

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compete with one another honestly. In

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open competition there emerges

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a truly strong people’s list.

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That list goes into the elections, wins, and

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forms a faction in the Duma that

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works in the interests of the people, on the side of

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the people. Therefore, I ask you

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to register for these primaries,

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take an active part in them, and in

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September come to the elections and vote

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so that others do not decide for us. Because

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to significantly raise the standard of living here

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in the Kostroma region and in the country, we will only be able

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to do so only

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by pressing and forcing this government to work

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in our interests. Am I

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right?

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Will you support a visiting Muscovite like me?

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A touring outsider, convicted three times. But the man

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whom you all know very well—Alexei

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Navalny. Thank you very much, dear

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friends. I’m very glad to see you here.

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Please, everyone who’s standing,

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come closer—those behind the little fence, too.

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I’m glad to be speaking in your wonderful, very beautiful

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city. I only have one

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question: has there been some kind of

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bombing in the city lately or something? I

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was driving today along Prospekt Mira (Peace Avenue), and I just couldn’t

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understand—what on earth has been happening in

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this regional capital? I don’t

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understand. And before I say

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why I came, and answer all your questions,

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let me tell you a little anecdote, just so you

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understand. A joke—but really, it’s the real-life context

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in which we work. Today the guys

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were setting up the stage, the structures, the backdrop, and

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they put out chairs. Then a representative

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from the administration came and said the chairs had to be removed. And

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the police weren’t even insisting on it. Remove the chairs. Why?

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“It’s an order.”

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From the deputy governor. First you put out chairs,

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and then you’ll start a revolution.

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So everyone sitting on a chair—you

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understand that this is the prologue to a revolution. Why

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did I come here to see you?

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I came here so that together

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with all of you here in Kostroma

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Region, we could enter into a conspiracy—form

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a conspiracy. And yes, a conspiracy is supposed to be

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something secret, but I’m saying this

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completely openly.

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I want you to take part in it—you, the police officers

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guarding this rally, the people

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standing with placards, even

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the wonderful woman who just

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told me, “Go away, you with your American

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passport.” I’m sure you’ll want

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to take part in this conspiracy because

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it will be a conspiracy of people who love

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Kostroma Region against those who

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hate it. Look, when I

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was preparing, I went to the website of

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the Ministry of Regional Development to see where

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Kostroma Region stands

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and what the official

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information says about it now. And it says

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it’s a bankrupt region. Worse than Kostroma

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Region, apparently, only Kamchatka has debt

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that practically equals its revenue; income is minimal;

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everything depends on transfers from the federal

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budget, and so on. It’s just some kind of

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nightmare. I really don’t understand:

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do people in Kostroma Region not

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work? Are they drunk all the time? Or

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did they steal something from themselves? Why

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is Kostroma Region running at a loss?

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Absolutely—why? Do you have an answer to

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that question? But on the other hand,

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if I look not at the official websites

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but at normal ones, where people

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actually write things, here’s what I learn about Kostroma Region.

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Tell me yourselves: Kostroma is

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the cheese capital of Russia, Kostroma

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is the jewelry capital

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of Russia,

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the flax capital of Russia, and one of the

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key cities of the Golden Ring (a famous tourist route through historic Russian cities), and a

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major tourist city in Russia.

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So the question arises: how the hell can a city

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that is famous for all this, where many people

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work—why is it a loss-making

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region?

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A bankrupt one? I want to form a conspiracy with you

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against the people who are trying

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to turn Kostroma and Kostroma

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Region into a bankrupt region.

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They take all the money away to Moscow

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that is earned here, and they

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simply steal every day by taking away all

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the money. I know that for certain, and this is

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the most important point of our program. I’m simply

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looking at how much tax you pay here.

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The main plank of our platform,

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the one we are campaigning on, is this:

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return money and powers to the regions.

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The value-added tax that

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you pay here—what percentage of it

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stays here, and how much goes to Moscow?

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Who knows?

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Zero stays with you here.

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We believe, demand, and want

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you, as part of this conspiracy, to demand

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together with us: guys, we want

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40% of the value-added tax

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to remain here, where we actually pay it.

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These are your prices. When you pay in

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a store, you indirectly pay this tax, and

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that would bring in an additional 4 to 8 billion

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rubles, and the problem of Kostroma Region’s deficit

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would be solved immediately. Then it would be possible

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to allocate not 980 million rubles a year to roads, as now,

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but 1 billion or 2 billion. I think

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we all want that together.

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We also want excise taxes on alcohol and tobacco

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that you pay here—which directly affect

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your healthcare, because

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people drink and smoke, they get sick from it, and you

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pay for those hospitals, and so on—but

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right now Moscow takes 60% of the excise tax, and 40%

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stays with you. We’re not proposing to take it all away.

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Our program is this:

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let’s reverse it—60% stays here and 40% goes to

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Moscow. And that would bring in an additional 500 million

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rubles. This year your healthcare

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budget was cut by 340 million

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rubles. So we’re saying: let’s change that, and

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you’ll have additional money for

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healthcare. In Kostroma

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Region, medicines that people are supposed

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to receive free of charge are not being given to them. You

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know there were scandals—an unfortunate disabled child

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had to sue

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the governor over medication, and while the case was going on,

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the girl died—she couldn’t get

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the medicine. The money exists—it’s just that right now

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the official position of any deputies

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who sit in your city assembly

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and in the regional legislature, United Russia sits there, and

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its official position is that

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guys, we want to hand over all the money

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to Moscow. Why would Moscow ever give you

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any money back if, apparently,

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your deputies are saying, no, we are completely

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fine with it, let everything go there

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Within this conspiracy, we want

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to unite people who will finally

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create the one party

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the one political force, people who will say, well,

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enough already—there is plenty of money in the federal center

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as it is: oil revenues, gas revenues,

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customs duties. We want

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at least some of our money, the money we pay,

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to stay in our region. Second,

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the theft—the spoons, the dacha (country house)

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Yakunin, the head of Russian Railways, the state-owned

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railway company, bought himself

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an estate for more than 1 billion rubles

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(about $11 million). Your

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Kostroma

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to St. Petersburg train is being canceled from July 5, right?

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That’s right? Yes, yes. So the question is: shouldn’t

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we join you in a conspiracy

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so that finally someone says, what the hell

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is Yakunin doing spending 1 billion rubles

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on a dacha when he has no such income, while you

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are having this train canceled, even though it costs

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far less, after all

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And so we look at these

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endless mugs who have

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an official salary of 1 million rubles, but build

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houses worth 100 million, 20 million, 50 million rubles—this is

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illicit enrichment. But obviously, if

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an official—look, he has

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even a high salary, 150,000 rubles a month

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(about $1,650)—that’s a very high salary. Your average

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salary in the region is what?

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25,000.

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Officially, 21,000.

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Officially, Rosstat (Russia’s state statistics agency) says 21,000 rubles

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(about $230), though it’s probably less. An official

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earns 100,000, but at the same time builds himself

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a dacha for 10 million rubles—where did he get

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the money? He stole it. Saved it up, saved it up—by stealing

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a little at a time, and

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eventually accumulated it. That’s obvious to me, it’s obvious to you

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it’s obvious to the whole country, but

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when we say this is illicit

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enrichment, stop stealing, then this

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official says: Navalny, that’s slander

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you’ll go to court, I’ll have you held legally

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liable. And where I got the money from

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is none of your business, nor your

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fellow Kostroma residents’ business—you have no right

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to ask us such questions, the officials say

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I want us together

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to form a conspiracy of people who demand

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that we do have the right to ask such questions

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About this seed farm—your

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newspapers all wrote that 154 million rubles were stolen

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that’s a very large sum for your

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region. How did the case end?

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Amnesty. Nothing was built, the money was not

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returned, no one was held

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accountable, everyone feels

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just fine. But let there at least appear in the

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legislature someone who says: I demand

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criminal charges. I

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demand it, I demand these 154 million rubles be returned

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Because right now there are no such deputies, there simply

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aren’t any, that’s all. Supposedly there are

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people’s

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representatives sitting there, drawing salaries, doing something

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but the person who will raise

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their voice is not there, and that person should be there

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because all of you here want that

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There are probably lots of people who do not

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agree with my political

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position on everything. But surely each of us

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agrees that crooks like these must be

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held

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accountable. Your roads are in

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a monstrous state, but if we look

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at our Anti-Corruption Foundation

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which analyzes how road tenders are awarded

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we see nothing but

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a monopolistic scheme there—there is no competition at all

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naturally there are no roads, people are enriching themselves

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we need deputies who will deal with this

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we need such deputies. I want

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you to elect those deputies yourselves

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The idea

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behind the party list is very simple

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for example, I am even officially

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forbidden from forming blocs right now, and I don’t

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want to anyway, but you have elections in 2016

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in September 2015, the task before us

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before all of us is how to

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put together a list in Kostroma Region

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that you will believe in, so that

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you will come to the elections and finally send to the

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Duma deputies who will demand that

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your money be returned to you and that they start

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fighting corruption. We have already decided

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how to answer this question

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in the only possible way:

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you should compile this list

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you—these local people, or Yashin

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for example, who came from Moscow and wants

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to represent your interests—they come

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to you and say: guys, we want to be

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the face of the Kostroma opposition, please

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trust us. After that, you come to the

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primaries and decide who should be

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first, who should be second, who should be in

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a winnable spot and become a

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deputy. Do you need someone older,

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younger, local, or an outsider? That is not a question

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Navalny from Moscow can decide, nor

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should Navalny from Moscow decide it. I

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believe that you should decide that question

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you, the people of Kostroma. The main purpose of my trip

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is to convince you that, well, in fact

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democracy really does work, and me

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Journalists were asking today, "So, Alexei..."

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"So who will head the party list in Kostroma?" And I

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said, "Guys, I'm happy to tell you that

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I don't know. I really don't know. Because

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I don't know who you

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will vote for. Enough already—I'm sick of all this,

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all this politics and these big-headed politicians

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from Moscow. When Moscow leaders decide everything

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themselves, it leads to a situation where you're

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simply not interested in voting for such

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lists. So either you don't go to

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the polls, or you spoil your ballots. As a result,

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there is no opposition. In power there is only

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United Russia. We all suffer, they steal,

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there are no roads, and so on. We have to change

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this situation. I urge you to believe in

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the fact that what we are doing is genuinely honest:

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to register, look at

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the candidates, talk to them, ask them

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questions, and choose the list that

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will go to the election and beat

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United Russia—the party of crooks and thieves—and

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bring into the Duma people who will finally

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say loudly, and make sure that

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the official voice of Kostroma Region

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sounds like this:

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"We demand a fight against corruption." I

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am sure we will do this, and together with

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you—together with you—we

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will break into parliament, and after that we

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will definitely win, because

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well, I simply do not believe that what

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is happening in the country now will

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go on forever.

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This country extracts such enormous

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amounts of oil and gas, we are one of the richest

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countries, and yet we live in poverty. In your region's second-largest

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city, right here in

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Sharya, they shut off hot water for five months

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in 2015. Come on—that's un

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thinkable. Here, hot water should be shut off

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for 14 days. But in practice, for how long

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do they shut it off? A month. A month. Why the hell are you

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paying more than 15% of your monthly budget for housing and utility services

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(utilities), right?

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Then why do people say, "No,

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that can't be, that just can't be,

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it can't be that all the nation's wealth is going

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to these oligarchs." In 1990, we had

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officially recognized dollar billionaires

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ten or maybe eleven people; now there are 120

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official dollar

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billionaires in Russia. What did they

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make their money on? I don't understand. They

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made it on the fact that your region became

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bankrupt. They siphoned everything off into Swiss

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bank accounts.

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So once again, I urge you: we are

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forming a patriotic conspiracy with you

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against the thieves, together with everyone—with the police, with

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Center E (the anti-extremism police unit), which is filming us right now

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on camera—with everyone. Because nobody likes

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this. A patriotic conspiracy against

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crooks and thieves, for the people of Kostroma. Thank you

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very much. I'm ready to answer your

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questions. Let's start first with the

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woman who said that I have two

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passports. I promise you—please, your

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first

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question. Go ahead, go ahead.

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Tell me, I'm interested. I'll give you the

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microphone, just briefly, okay? Did

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the American

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embassy pay you? And how much did the

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American embassy pay you to come

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here? All right, tell me then,

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was it Obama who bombed your roads after all?

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You bombed the roads. In 1991

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I bombed the roads? In 1991

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in 1991 I destroyed—you destroyed

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the country? I destroyed

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the country? Excellent, thank you.

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Thank you very much. Let me give you the microphone—no

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need? All right, fine. I can answer, I can

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answer. What's your

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name? Thank you very much for that question. I

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am glad it was asked, because

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here's what happens: some

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people come out and say

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they are against corruption, and that means the

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American embassy paid them, and in

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1991 they somehow

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bombed something. In 1991 I was

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in school, you understand? I didn't bomb

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anything. And as for the American embassy, I don't

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know what's in that embassy. Where is

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this America? Very far away. What I do know is that

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there is no hot water here. I know that here

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everything has been stolen. I can see Yakunin's dacha (country estate)

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right here and now. Second question.

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Let's have the second question. How did the trial end

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when you stole

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Kirovles? How did the trial end when I stole from Kirovles?

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At

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Kirovles? The Kirovles trial ended very

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simply: I was sentenced to five years, but the

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next day, people came out into the streets of Moscow

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who know that all of this is a lie,

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who understand that these are corrupt officials and

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crooks trying to lock me up.

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The next day they released me, and as you

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can see, as you can see, I am standing here before

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you. And no matter how much they try to brainwash us

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about America—guys, why should I talk

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about America? I want to ask a question. I don't

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know—there are a bunch of police officers standing here. I

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want them to think to themselves

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here we have a director, a former director

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of the FSB, Patrushev. In our booklet, you can

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see that his wife bought herself

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a palace in Serebryany Bor for 100 million

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Please tell me, in short, how

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can an FSB director, while in government service, buy

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himself a house for 1 billion rubles? Is that possible?

24:08

That is betrayal and treason. Those are

24:11

the traitors of Russia—all those who simply keep stealing

24:15

from the budget endlessly. Well, I've given you

24:17

the chance to ask two questions. So

24:20

that’s enough, we want to ask questions too. Dear

24:23

friends, we need to change the agenda.

24:29

Next. I don’t want to talk about America. I

24:30

want to talk about housing and public utilities in the city of Kostroma.

24:33

I want to talk about why you are

24:35

being robbed on the roads. I want, I want to talk

24:39

Sorry, about your great friend

24:43

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin’s friend named

24:45

Anatoly Serdyukov. Now tell me,

24:47

please, where is Anatoly

24:50

Serdyukov now? He was removed, he was removed. So let me

24:53

tell you that Serdyukov, the man we were

24:56

told on television had stolen 20

24:57

billion rubles, did not spend a single day in the

25:00

defendant’s dock. He was amnestied, and

25:03

now he heads a federal

25:05

state enterprise in the field of

25:07

defense. I don’t like that. And I’m

25:10

not interested in America or some

25:12

American embassy. I simply want

25:14

Serdyukov to be jailed. Do you

25:17

want that? Well, let’s vote: who is in favor of

25:19

bringing Serdyukov to

25:22

justice? Please...

25:24

American embassy.

25:27

That is what we will rally around.

25:30

We will unite around this. Next

25:35

question. Go ahead.

25:38

revolution... many of you probably know me.

25:42

know me.

25:43

I worked at... under Boris... I

25:46

want to speak about the roads: I fell and broke my hip. Yes, I

25:51

on November 16 of that year I fell, broke my hip, and

25:54

for three years I’ve been suing and just trying to survive.

25:59

And then suddenly, on November 8, I’m told that the

26:02

person responsible for the roads is bankrupt, some kind of

26:04

manager. We have roads, and they are all under

26:07

a bankrupt entity, which is why there was such terrible ice. He

26:10

holds two jobs, and his administration

26:12

is driving the company into bankruptcy. They do not pay taxes

26:15

on purpose; this is done deliberately. They don’t pay taxes.

26:18

He holds two jobs and receives two

26:21

salaries, and they are not planning to pay me either.

26:24

That’s how it is, and my whole body...

26:29

The point is that the enterprise that has

26:31

the roads on its books has been formally

26:33

declared bankrupt, and it cannot even

26:34

pay compensation. So what are we talking about?

26:36

How is it possible that in one of the richest

26:39

countries in the world, which has sold oil and gas

26:42

for 3 billion in recent years, our

26:45

road maintenance enterprise ends up

26:46

bankrupt? This is abnormal. This is what

26:49

we are joining together against; that is why I am

26:51

standing on this stage. Let’s have the next

26:53

question. Yes.

26:57

Please, your attitude toward Mikhail

27:02

Kasyanov? My attitude toward Mikhail

27:04

Kasyanov, toward Mikhail Kasyanov, my

27:06

attitude is good. I’ll explain: he was

27:09

prime minister in Putin’s government,

27:11

and, by the way, he served for three or four years

27:15

as prime minister in Putin’s government. And

27:17

even by Putin’s own admission, he was

27:21

prime minister—indeed, he was

27:23

the best prime minister

27:25

of Putin’s government. And in that sense,

27:27

I follow his work. I am not going to be his

27:29

lawyer; without me, he is perfectly

27:32

capable, I’m sure, of coming and answering

27:33

questions. But I follow his

27:35

activity over recent years, and I see that

27:37

he is, in fact, a fairly

27:39

sincere person engaged in independent

27:40

political activity. Kasyanov probably could have—I am

27:43

sure of it—as a former prime minister,

27:45

like all the others, headed some

27:47

state bank or something of that sort,

27:50

become an oligarch, and so on. But

27:52

none of that happened. So Kasyanov

27:54

heads the RPR-PARNAS party. You know

27:57

that my party, the Party of Progress, was liquidated;

27:58

they are not allowing us to register it.

28:00

They are too afraid. He made this

28:03

party available for holding democratic

28:04

primaries and honestly said that he was ready on one

28:08

condition: that the candidate lists be formed by people from Kostroma.

28:10

This is very important, because the

28:12

deputies you elect will be

28:14

accountable only to you—not to me, not to Kasyanov,

28:17

and not to anyone else. And that is exactly how we want it, so that

28:19

the deputies sitting there do not feel

28:21

indebted to Navalny. Because

28:22

what if tomorrow I become a bad person and

28:24

demand that they cover for

28:26

corrupt officials? And then, at that moment,

28:28

the deputy will say, ‘Lyosha, go home, get out of my

28:31

Kostroma, because I was elected on a list formed by

28:33

people from Kostroma, not by you.’ Next

28:38

question. Tell me, this young man

28:40

is shouting, ‘This country isn’t Bolotnaya (a reference to Moscow’s Bolotnaya Square protests)... go back to your own...’

28:42

America.’ Judging by appearances, you came here from

28:44

Tajikistan. Please come over here.

28:45

Come here. Go on, come over, come over. Yes, come over.

28:47

Both of you.

28:49

Come over, come over, both of you, come over.

28:54

Come on, come over.

29:00

All right, if you tell me, ‘Go back to your own

29:03

America,’ then I’ll tell you, ‘Go back to Uzbekistan.’

29:04

You, come here. Let’s take a look.

29:08

Kostroma. There you have it, you see—the wonderful

29:11

authorities took two migrant workers

29:13

paid them 300 rubles each, and they are afraid to come

29:16

up here. So come here, guys, come over.

29:19

I’m not going to eat you. This is a peaceful

29:22

rally. This matters, this matters. I’ll give you

29:25

a chance to speak. Come over, come on.

29:29

Come over.

29:30

Come here. There, you see, that’s exactly how it works.

29:33

You understand? He stood up and shouted about ‘your America.’ Once

29:37

again, please, no incidents. Just

29:39

let them stand there, let them stand there and listen, and so

29:44

on. Fine. As soon as I send you to

29:47

Dushanbe, I’ll immediately go to

29:52

[applause]

29:56

America. A local issue of interest...

29:59

I want to ask for help. In general, under the former...

30:02

Governor, damn it, so, on behalf of...

30:05

the fans of Spartak club, about the stadium...

30:07

Spartak was handed over to Dynamo just now...

30:10

all my friends go to training sessions, even...

30:12

the poor kids in Karavaevo, 7 km (4.3 miles) from

30:14

the city. Our hearts ache, we all...

30:17

the enterprises contributed, all of them, Metalist...

30:19

Mashina built Spartak—this stadium...

30:22

is 50 years old, and by some stroke of the pen, with chatter and...

30:25

empty drivel, they signed it away and handed it over to the cops.

30:27

We want this stadium back, like it was...

30:28

That’s it.

30:30

Uh...

30:33

The only way I can do this...

30:36

I can’t do it alone. You need your own deputies.

30:38

They shape the budget, they approve the budget

30:41

of the region; among other things, they also form

30:43

property committees, they elect...

30:45

their own deputies. They distribute everything, they

30:48

are the ones who should be dealing with this. You have, you have...

30:50

a lot of similar situations. Maybe...

30:52

after all, I’m not a local person, not...

30:53

entirely, but the right analogy here is...

30:56

some well-known pond here that recently...

30:58

Shai Pond, yes, the one someone tried to...

31:01

build over—the person who heads

31:03

the committee on

31:04

ecology. Well, that’s exactly why you need

31:08

to bring in decent deputies so that this

31:10

crooked nonsense doesn’t get through, because a person

31:12

gets elected in this district saying, ‘I’ll stand up for you,’

31:14

and then tries to build over your own pond.

31:16

So voters need people who

31:20

will shape the budget in such a way that

31:22

there is funding for this

31:23

sports club, who will demand, as

31:26

I’ve already said and will never tire of repeating, that

31:28

excise tax, VAT, and part of the

31:32

mineral extraction tax stay here, and then you

31:34

will have money for everything. Once again,

31:36

this is important. Today I spoke with many people,

31:39

and unfortunately you yourselves have been

31:41

sold this whole paradigm: that here

31:44

in Kostroma everything is terrible and we’re

31:46

very poor. You’re not poor at all—where did you

31:49

get the idea that you’re poor? Just look

31:51

at how much tax you yourselves

31:53

pay. If even some of it stayed with you, you’d be able

31:56

to...

31:58

to support yourselves—and that’s exactly how it should be.

32:00

Because, after all,

32:01

who is Russia for? Explain to me—what is it for?

32:05

Why do you pay excise tax and VAT here—so it can go to

32:08

Chechnya? They’re doing fine there as it is.

32:11

There’s enough money; we maintain the army, we have enough

32:13

oil money, plenty of gas money, as I already

32:16

said, and plenty of customs revenue.

32:18

A lot. Right now, Russia’s national idea

32:22

should be to let

32:23

people live normally, so that, damn it, your

32:27

money stays with you.

32:36

How

32:37

is it possible to dismantle this system when there...

32:40

after all, everything is...

32:47

like that?

32:57

There’s no clever trick—if only there were a simple button

33:00

I could walk up to and just press once,

33:03

and...

33:05

But it won’t be easy. On the other hand,

33:08

we are the majority in our

33:11

country. We’ve been sold the idea that we’re some kind of

33:14

you know, people with democratic

33:16

views, of whom there are many in every

33:18

city, who stand for elections, for

33:20

justice, for a fair

33:22

distribution of national wealth. We’ve

33:23

basically been made to think that there are

33:25

just too few of us, while some rather narrow-minded

33:29

people are very numerous and outvote us everywhere.

33:31

That’s complete nonsense.

33:33

On every issue on our political

33:35

agenda in this country, 70 to 80%

33:39

of people are with us. So how do we change this

33:41

system? By uniting, including in order

33:43

to go to the polls. Of course, the system is rigid,

33:46

of course it’s all the same old mess, if they

33:48

appointed this governor for you. What did you call him—

33:50

Zhora Bordyur or something? Like...

33:54

Gosha Bordyur? If the whole region is laughing because they

33:58

appointed some clown—a clown who simply

34:01

steals money. He’s pointless and

34:04

useless. Everyone seems to agree with that.

34:06

It seems impossible to break through the system, but we need

34:10

to mobilize, we need to mobilize. We know for sure

34:13

that if we ourselves make

34:16

a small effort, and each of you

34:18

goes up to someone and says, ‘Listen,

34:20

friend, neighbor, acquaintance, girlfriend—there’s

34:23

a party, there are deputies, and they stand for

34:26

our Kostroma money

34:29

staying here. Don’t sit at home—right now, in these elections, even if only

34:32

20% of people come out and vote—if everyone comes,

34:35

if everyone votes, that’s where the breaking of

34:38

this system will begin—not a revolution, but a normal

34:41

evolution, when we force officials

34:43

to change something. Because of course, who

34:46

would ever voluntarily give up? In our booklet,

34:48

look at the page with the salaries

34:50

of the heads of state companies. My favorite figure—

34:53

I keep repeating it, you’ve probably heard it too—you know the salary?

34:56

What is it?

34:58

5 million rubles a day (about $55,000-60,000 per day). Where have you ever seen that in a

35:02

state company? It’s simply

35:04

madness. You tell people and they don’t

35:07

believe it. I often tell

35:09

people I know, I meet people, and I tell them: 5

35:11

million rubles a day. ‘No way, that can’t

35:13

be true, it doesn’t fit in your head’—but it

35:15

is true. Obviously, they themselves will never

35:18

give it up; they will never give up

35:21

the opportunity to steal, to steal the nation’s

35:23

wealth without control. But

35:25

we need to apply pressure. That’s why I came here, and we

35:29

need some kind of group to emerge

35:31

of people who will pressure this government

35:34

and force it to change. Let’s take the next

35:41

question: do I believe in fair elections?

35:44

Excellent question. And do you believe in fair...

35:46

All right. Raise your hands, those who believe

35:49

in fair elections.

35:57

In—

35:59

Good. So, I’m facing an optimistic

36:02

audience. I

36:03

can see that. I want to tell you the facts. Fact

36:07

number one is that when it comes to

36:09

voting for United Russia,

36:11

your region is second from the bottom. One of the

36:13

lowest voting rates—that’s a fact. As for

36:16

voting for Putin, you are in last

36:18

place. In Kostroma, people do not vote for Putin.

36:21

That

36:22

is a fact. It’s obvious. Why? Because

36:27

it’s not that you’re voting for some supposedly good candidate, it’s simply that you

36:30

know everything has been stolen and ruined.

36:33

So don’t vote? From this I draw

36:35

the conclusion that, first of all, of course everything

36:37

will not be easy, but on the other hand

36:39

the conditions are there.

36:42

So the elections will be fair if we

36:44

force them to hold fair elections. If

36:47

we draw up a list and send

36:49

a fairly large number of people,

36:51

if observers take part, if we sign up

36:53

hundreds—we did this in Moscow, and we’re doing it here too.

36:56

When I ran in the elections in Moscow,

36:58

they told me too: “What are you even getting yourself into?”

37:00

“You’ve got a criminal case against you.” I was

37:03

put on trial right in the middle of the election

37:05

campaign, and I was even jailed during

37:06

the campaign. There was no television coverage,

37:09

there was no money. “What are you getting into? You’ve got

37:11

absolutely nothing.” Nevertheless, in

37:13

Russia’s largest city, where 10% of the country’s

37:16

population lives, I got 30%. It wasn’t all for

37:19

nothing. If we force them to hold

37:22

fair elections, they will hold them for us. We just need

37:24

to push them. A little more optimism,

37:26

friends. Next question.

37:30

Alexei, good afternoon. We came from Ivanovo

37:32

to be, so to speak,

37:35

part of this. And I have a question. Well,

37:38

the problems are most likely the same.

37:39

It’s a subsidized region, which means the governor

37:41

looks in only one direction—where the money comes from. So

37:44

the situation for small business is absolutely

37:46

identical, just like with the roads—maybe a little

37:47

better, but he measures his effectiveness

37:50

by his ratings, by how high he

37:51

climbs. My question is this:

37:58

after three of these announcements—it’s

38:00

such a nightmare—to constantly be ready with

38:02

a bag packed and come in. Please understand me

38:04

correctly: why

38:07

Niko’s question: haven’t I gotten tired of endlessly

38:10

drying rusks (a Russian expression meaning preparing for prison)? Well, yes, I have.

38:13

Really. If I had been speaking

38:15

here two years ago, I would have said:

38:16

“Guys, I’m a respected lawyer, I have

38:19

high fees,” and so on. Now I

38:20

really can tell you that I am

38:22

a three-time convicted repeat offender; I was expelled

38:24

from the bar association as someone criminally

38:26

convicted, and so on and so on.

38:28

But if, in order to speak the truth,

38:32

I need to dry rusks, then I’ll

38:35

dry them, because that is the most important thing

38:38

for me. What matters deeply to me is that, standing on

38:41

this stage, I know that I am not lying in a single

38:45

word. Besides, in fact I’m

38:46

saying fairly obvious things.

38:48

Yes, you looked at the little booklet. But it’s all

38:50

documents, unfortunately.

38:53

Corruption is out in the open; there’s no need even

38:55

to prove anything. But I simply get

38:56

pleasure from speaking the truth in

38:59

our country. In other countries, in

39:02

societies before ours, this is simply

39:04

the constant story of humanity:

39:06

decent people fight bad people;

39:09

bad people—crooks, thieves, and murderers—

39:11

try to stop good people from speaking

39:14

the truth. But the whole history of humanity, again,

39:17

tells us that good, sooner or

39:19

later, wins. I believe that it

39:21

will win. I simply believe in Russia. I believe—I don’t

39:24

know—even in that woman who

39:26

came up to me and talked about the embassy. I

39:28

basically believe that at some point

39:30

she’ll figure it out: when she

39:32

turns on the hot water and nothing

39:33

comes out, she’ll understand that Obama is not

39:36

on the other end of the pipe drinking up

39:38

all the hot water. She’ll understand. I believe in

39:41

people. Maybe someone will consider my position

39:45

naive, but it is truthful, and for its sake I

39:47

am ready to dry as many rusks as necessary.

39:52

[applause]

39:56

Thank you. My last name is Leontyeva. Kostroma.

40:00

So, the Kostroma Regional Duma

40:02

has more than thirty members, and yet

40:06

despite the fact that in more than

40:09

half of Russia’s cities a law on

40:13

“children of the war” has been adopted,

40:16

these leading figures, so to speak, have

40:19

settled in for three or four convocations

40:23

working in the Duma—that is, they are already

40:25

permanent fixtures.

40:31

Yes, and in April they allowed themselves

40:36

despite the fact that in neighboring

40:41

regions—around 35 or 40 regions—

40:45

this law on “children of the war” was adopted, they

40:48

They refused.

40:51

They refused.

40:53

May I make a comparison?

40:58

There are far more people in the regional Duma.

41:01

Compare it with the Moscow City Duma.

41:04

That’s how it works in our

41:07

country. Thank you very much. It’s not even really a question,

41:10

more of an opinion. But the idea is very important: the fact that

41:13

these people sit there for years—these deputies really

41:16

were in the Communist Party, then

41:19

they were with Chernomyrdin in Our Home Is Russia (a pro-Kremlin party of the 1990s), then

41:21

for a while they became

41:24

“democrats” and signed up

41:30

for Fatherland, then Unity, and now in

41:32

United Russia—the same old faces are still sitting there.

41:34

for years. At the same time, if I asked you

41:36

whether there are, in your Duma, at least, I don't know,

41:39

a couple of deputies who really

41:41

will stand up for your

41:43

interests—just one or two.

41:45

There might be one name

41:48

that comes to mind, but most often there are none.

41:58

Support for United Russia is among the lowest

42:00

in the country—30%—but United Russia in your Duma

42:04

holds

42:06

85%. How does that happen?

42:08

That's exactly the problem. That's why

42:11

we are holding this rally: it's time

42:13

to kick United Russia out of there.

42:16

If they have 30% support, then let them

42:19

keep their 30%, and let normal deputies

42:22

form the majority and pass

42:24

the right laws. Next question.

42:27

Kostroma, thank you for giving me the floor.

42:30

Thank you. Dear residents of Kostroma, for 17 years I have

42:33

been corresponding with officials at the very

42:35

highest level, up to and including the President

42:37

of the Russian Federation—no fewer than two

42:39

dozen during his third term. In total,

42:42

my appeals have been sent

42:45

regarding repression and the issue of

42:47

returning the diplomat of the Kingdom of Sweden

42:50

from the Galskoye Cemetery in the city of Kostroma

42:53

to Sweden, where he should be, in

42:56

Malmö, in the family burial place.

42:58

This is a man who, for those who do not know, saved during the years of

43:03

the war, more than 70 years ago—today already

43:07

already

43:08

around 100,000 human

43:11

lives among the Jewish population. He was

43:14

abducted by SMERSH (Soviet military counterintelligence) and taken to

43:17

the Lubyanka, where he was held, and in prisons across

43:20

Moscow, including for about two years at

43:23

the Lubyanka, where he was interrogated

43:28

before being sent to

43:30

a prison transport convoy.

43:31

While

43:34

on Red Square in 2013, I was

43:41

arrested by people dressed in police uniforms, in

43:45

a group of 13 to 15, and taken to

43:48

Kitay-Gorod, and subsequently to the district police station.

43:54

By court order, in

43:57

again. This was because I had repeatedly sent

44:00

appeals

44:03

to Prosecutor General Chaika and others. The military

44:07

prosecutor's office sends only brush-off replies everywhere; not a single

44:11

appeal has been considered

44:16

on its merits. Counterintelligence, the FSB,

44:19

the head of the military prosecutor's office openly

44:23

mock me, saying instead of giving

44:27

the answer I request in my appeal,

44:30

in writing: 'Especially important government

44:33

prisoner.'

44:34

Then in another brush-off reply: 'released prisoner.' This is

44:38

despicable. If Wallenberg

44:40

had been released, a plane from

44:44

Sweden would have

44:46

landed immediately, and he would have been escorted

44:49

back to his homeland. At present

44:51

they send me brush-off replies over the signature of General

44:54

from our FSB, who instructs them to send

44:56

these dismissive replies.

44:58

And this is

44:59

outrageous.

45:01

Thank you. It's difficult for me to comment on this

45:04

specific situation. Judging by the passion with which

45:06

you describe it, I do not

45:08

doubt that you are doing something

45:09

noble. And on the one hand,

45:12

you understand, we have huge—there are

45:14

military archives, there is the Main Military

45:16

Prosecutor's Office, the Ministry of Defense, which

45:17

should be dealing with this, yet they are silent. So again, I am not ready

45:20

to comment on this situation. But this is

45:22

a question about the quality of government in general. And why

45:24

are they silent? We have a fantastical number of officials

45:26

—fantastical.

45:35

It's a question of the quality of government. Let's simply

45:37

discuss this particular issue one-on-one afterward.

45:40

Next question. Would you like to ask a question?

45:47

At the rally on December 7 last

45:50

year,

45:57

you said, 'I'm scared, but I'm used to it.' What are you

45:59

doing for your personal safety? Because

46:01

we are all very

46:06

worried about you. Well, listen, who should I be afraid of?

46:09

Look how many people are protecting me—and

46:11

you too, including people in uniform, and so on. But seriously,

46:13

what can you really do here?

46:16

Even if I had the money

46:18

to hire four bodyguards

46:20

and have them stand there like in a Hollywood movie,

46:22

in dark protective glasses, big guys like that,

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huge men—still, competing

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with the state is impossible.

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You know who killed

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Nemtsov (Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician). He was killed by Chechen

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policemen, if you can call them

46:39

policemen—really just some kind of bandits,

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bearded thugs.

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Everyone knows that right now the FSB is officially

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trying to question this Yeremeyev—yes, that's his

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surname—who officially

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helped organize it,

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in a republic that is supposedly part of Russia.

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They can't even come and question him. What's more, he

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officially left through Grozny

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International Airport. Now he is in Dubai.

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So

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I understand that the situation is such that

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there may be, I don't know, dangerous

47:12

situations. But again, that does not

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stop me, and I believe that none of

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us should be stopped by it. Because

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these acts of terror, including against

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Boris, were carried out—they were

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intended simply to kill one person

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and intimidate everyone else.

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We have to keep doing our work. Next question.

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Yes, Alexei, I'm very glad to see you. You

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know, we have great respect for

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your work. My son and I came specially

47:38

from Ivanovo to see you.

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live

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Can you imagine—we know that you

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are taking part in the elections here in

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Kostroma. In Kaluga, they watched you

47:52

speak; in Novosibirsk; when in

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Ivanovo—well, yes, I’ll make it everywhere.

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Listen, to be honest with you,

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I get so much pleasure from this. After all,

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I spent a year at home under house arrest, and

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by the final stage of it, my entertainment

48:06

during that house arrest

48:08

was simply opening a map and

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imagining where I would go, and my wife

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used to call it something like “Alexei is out walking again.” I

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would look at the map and imagine where I

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would travel. I’ll try to get everywhere, but that

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is not an easy task in our situation—there are

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a lot of obstacles being put in our way, first and foremost.

48:24

Of course, right now I’m traveling to cities where

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elections are taking place. But people are the same everywhere, and

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everywhere people want to hear a word of truth, and

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to be honest, sometimes it even upsets me that

48:33

someone can come and say

48:35

fairly banal things—nothing I’ve told you

48:37

just now is something you yourselves don’t already

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know without me—

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and yet it somehow becomes popular.

48:44

That’s the wrong situation. I want

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to achieve this:

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I want my job to disappear, so that all

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these stories of mine about corruption and so on

48:54

would no longer be needed, because I would

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talk about someone, and people would tell me, well,

48:58

that’s enough talking—there he is already

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sitting in the defendant’s dock. If I talked about

49:02

Serdyukov, they would tell me, stop talking about

49:04

Serdyukov—he got 10 years. If I

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talked about all those United Russia party members,

49:09

you would tell me, enough already, they’ve all been

49:11

held criminally liable under

49:13

the law on combating illicit enrichment.

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I will definitely achieve that. I hope

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that together we will definitely achieve it,

49:21

and that our conspiracy will work, my friends. In

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our team there is a doctor who

49:25

told me something: “Alexei, the meeting shouldn’t

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last more than one hour, because

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you’ll leave all your voters out in the cold and

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they’ll all come down with pneumonia.” Thank you

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so much, my friends. Thank you for

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coming and spending your time

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to listen to me. I urge all of you not

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to delay—register and

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build your list, the list from which

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victory will begin—and it will begin

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in Kostroma. Thank you.

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[applause]

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