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Hello everyone, it's 8:02 p.m. in Moscow, and

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in the studio is Alexei Navalny, or

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"Malchish-Plokhish" (a Soviet fairy-tale villain, used here as an insult), as I was called by

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the Tsargrad TV channel. When I can't

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immediately find on the internet

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some insults or name-calling, I

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always go to my favorite TV channel,

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Tsargrad — there's always something interesting there.

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Please send me your questions with

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the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture, and I will

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try to answer them.

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And I'll start with what really impressed me —

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maybe it didn't impress anyone else, but I'll

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explain now why this deserves

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admiration: the parents of children who suffered

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during that mass food poisoning incident

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in Moscow kindergartens

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that happened because of

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Prigozhin, Putin's cook, have filed one

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class-action lawsuit in the Moscow courts. But

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it may seem like nothing, but actually, guys,

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this is a big deal. Why? Because, first of all,

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first,

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it's a huge amount of work. Just imagine —

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powers of attorney alone — there are 16 people involved now,

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but there will be many more. For

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each person there's a stack of medical documents. I mean,

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any lawyer who has done or

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tried to do this kind of work knows that it is

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very hard, and it's something to admire.

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Second, I've always been in favor of class-action

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lawsuits. I tried many times to file them

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when

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I was acting as a representative of shareholders

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in Gazprom, Rosneft, and so on.

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The courts always threw out that kind of claim.

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And in that sense, I even envy Lyubov

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Sobol, who is acting as the legal

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representative of these people, because for

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any lawyer, this is genuinely great

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work.

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And third, why this should be admired

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and supported:

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because in the Beautiful Russia of the Future

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everyone will be suing everyone. It's a great

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mechanism for achieving justice, if

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you have a normal judicial system. In

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the Beautiful Russia of the Future, it will exist.

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But right now, in theory, what does the state

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suggest you do? Your child

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was poisoned in kindergarten, you understand that

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they were poisoned, you have a paper saying

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that they have dysentery — and you are supposed to

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go to the prosecutor's office, or you are supposed to

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write a complaint to the mayor. And he'll tell you to go

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to hell, because the mayor has received

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money from that cat Prigozhin

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who makes billions from this.

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The prosecutor's office is also sitting there

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on Prigozhin's payroll. Even if in

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the Beautiful Russia of the Future no one is

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on Prigozhin's payroll, there will still be some

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people there — bureaucrats, officials —

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who don't want extra work. Most importantly,

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they are not as interested in the matter as you are.

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But if the judicial system works, then

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Prigozhin — or some hypothetical Prigozhin — will

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understand: if you poison children, then here, in

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this specific case, say 500 people

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ended up in the hospital, you'll be sued

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and you'll pay each of them 1 million rubles in compensation

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— 500 million rubles, half a billion, is at stake.

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So you'll put in extra

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controls so you don't get sued. For example,

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take Sibay in Bashkortostan,

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I talked about it in the previous

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program, one of the earlier broadcasts. So

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right now people are living literally on the edge

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of a giant pit from which

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poisonous gas is coming out, and they are literally

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being poisoned. They protest,

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they hold rallies, and everyone just tells them to get lost.

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And the oligarch who owns

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that very quarry — abandoned, where

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the necessary

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land-reclamation work was simply never done — he insults local

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residents and says that they are

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just faking all of this.

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That they're simply pretending,

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staging fake footage. He said they were like

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the White Helmets in Syria,

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who supposedly fake injuries, killings, and

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bombed hospitals. Now, if they had

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the simple ability — and they will have it

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in the Beautiful Russia of the Future — to say: have you

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lost your mind, man? And then all together

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file a lawsuit and bring medical

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documents, then the judge would naturally say:

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their health has suffered, so please,

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1 million rubles in compensation for each person.

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1,000 people — that's 1 billion rubles. Goodbye.

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Oligarch, you're not much of an oligarch anymore. Or at least

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not as much of one, and so on.

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And so on and so forth. As someone

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who for decades — well, let me say,

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I lived there for 16 years — right in

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close proximity to

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an oil refinery in Kapotnya (an industrial district of Moscow),

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in Maryino, when I lived there — I knew, just like

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tens of thousands of people in the area knew, that these

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bastards were poisoning us. At night that flare

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visibly burned ten times stronger, and

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they were burning off some kind of toxic crap there, because

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during the day that flare is visible, and

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during the day there are apparently some

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oversight mechanisms, but at night

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— I repeat — it was impossible to breathe.

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If it had been possible to sue, that

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oil refinery would have

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run right away to install treatment facilities,

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would have gotten rid of that flare,

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because it would have understood: they'll sue us,

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they'll bankrupt us. And so, in the Beautiful Russia

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of the Future, the ability of injured people

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to sue and bankrupt those who

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supply poor-quality products, who

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poison the environment, who there...

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If the police offend you, it’s not just a criminal case.

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You also sue them in civil court.

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They themselves end up paying you huge compensation.

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The city police will know that they can be

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sued into the ground.

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They’ll hand over their entire budget if necessary—this is

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tremendous.

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It’s a mechanism of restraint, a mechanism

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of balance, and a mechanism for achieving

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equality. That’s why I’m incredibly glad about

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this first class-action lawsuit. We

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understand perfectly well that it has now been

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filed.

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It was filed against the kindergarten itself and against this Concord LLC

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and the women’s department in Riga—

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the Moscow Department of Health, the Department

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of Education of Moscow. Of course, right now they

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control the judiciary and will

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brush off all these parents.

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Sobyanin (the Mayor of Moscow) is personally interested in making sure this

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story gets buried, but even so, this is

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very important, because at least the parents

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have started acting this way. When

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we start suing more often, and filing lawsuits

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becomes a routine

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tool of protest for us, among other things, it will be

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much, much better. I’m very,

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very, very glad. Some people ask, well, but

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Good evening, Alexei.

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I assume you already know that on February 26

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the outlet *Current Time* published

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an investigation into Prigozhin’s schemes.

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Well, of course I know. Read it there on

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*Current Time*—they published a big, what do you call it,

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a three-part feature about

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that very “Putin’s chef.” Well, he’s a crook and a

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thief, and they additionally

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prove that he’s a crook, a thief, and a murderer.

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It’s quite interesting material—give it a read.

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There’s a video of a sentence being read out—I’ll show it to you now.

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Probably many of you have seen it, but

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it’s worth watching. Yes, it’s a 47-second clip,

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and in it they literally, in the name of the Russian

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Federation, read out a sentence, and then

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destroy the criminal. The best part

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is that they even, they actually even burn

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the criminal. Can you imagine?

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The 21st century: a violator is

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read a sentence.

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Then burned. Let’s take a look at this

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triumph of justice and the pinnacle of Russia’s

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Russian law-enforcement

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and political system. This is what we are building,

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this is the kind of society we are building so that

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these astonishing things can happen. Forty-seven

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seconds of a sentence: “By me, the head of the department…”

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“…of state veterinary oversight…”

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“…of the Ministry of Agriculture in Saratov Region…”

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“…in accordance with the decree of the President of the Russian Federation…”

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“…No. 560…”

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“…of the Russian Federation, as well as…”

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“…the government resolution…”

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“…of the Government of the Russian Federation of May 31,”

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2005.

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“By resolution of the Government of the Russian

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Federation of…”

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…”

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“…Irish amber cheese…”

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“…it has been decided…”

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“…to seize and destroy…”

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“…a batch of cheese weighing 6 kilograms 322 grams…”

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…”

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…”

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And then they set it on fire. Can you imagine? There

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are very dramatic shots, we just

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won’t show the whole thing for too long; we’ll show you

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in the corner how this official

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with a big salary stands in front of

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boxes of cheese and reads out its sentence.

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And says: “You, cheese weighing 6 kilograms…”

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Did you hear that? Something like 322 grams.

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“In the name of the Russian Federation, in accordance

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with the government resolution, you must be

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destroyed. Dear cheese, what do you have

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to say in your defense? Foreign cheese?”

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The cheese, the cheese remains silent. Well, apparently by doing so it

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silently confirms its guilt, after which

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they take it out of the boxes and throw it,

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throw it into the furnace, and there burns this

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terrible criminal. What an astonishing

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degree of idiocy. I mean, from any

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side, from any point of view, yes. But we

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can also look at it from a humanitarian

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point of view. Saratov Region

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is generally recognized as one of the poorest

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regions in Russia.

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The average salary is 31,000 rubles.

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Ten percent of the population

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earns less than the amount needed to stay above

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the poverty line. Let me remind you that this is

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just over 10,000 rubles—that is,

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every tenth person in Saratov

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Region

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earns—well, I mean, they are

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truly destitute. And in Saratov Region,

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6 kilograms of cheese—good Lord, just take it

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somewhere. If you really want to “destroy” it, then

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let’s take it, I don’t know, to a nursing home

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and let it be “destroyed” there. Let’s take it

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to a summer camp, let’s take it wherever

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you like, we’ll take it here ourselves at the office

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and eat it. No—they destroy it, and this

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procedure probably costs even more than

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the cheese itself.

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The state is doing this. And this

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comical reading of the cheese’s

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sentence and fate

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is a kind of super-idiocy: the destruction of

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food.

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A poor region, and yet all this immoral

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nonsense and stupidity—astonishing stupidity. But the

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cheese is from Germany, and these

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counter-sanctions don’t work, we understand that perfectly well,

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but they still do it anyway,

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demonstratively. We’ve generally spent a lot of time

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laughing lately at how

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they crush geese with bulldozers and all sorts of other

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ridiculous things, and it was assumed that

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The authorities seem to have realized their 10 centimeters—

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they're still destroying cheese, but somehow

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they're doing it now without those ritualistic,

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ridiculous theatrics, as if, you know, in

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Spain they were burning a heretic in the town square.

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That's how it was with the cheese, Boris, but they

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keep this idiocy going. It will never stop,

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ever, and everyone laughs at it, practically dying

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of laughter.

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I'm more than sure that this video

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is being passed around among themselves—over at the Federal Bailiff Service,

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where someone was burning it. I'll tell you now:

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it was burned by our regional office of

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Rosselkhoznadzor (Russia's agricultural watchdog).

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They send this video to each other and

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laugh, sending those crying-with-laughter emojis

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back and forth.

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But they keep doing it. Why? Because

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the people at the very top encourage this

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idiocy. But remember, Putin said that

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there is supposedly some economic law: if you

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don't—if we don't destroy

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6 kilograms and 322 grams of cheese in Saratov Region

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(6.322 kg), it will somehow affect

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jobs in some way. That's the kind of

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idiocy this is.

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It's approved in the Kremlin, which means that when it reaches

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Saratov Region,

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we'll see a sentence passed on cheese. Since we've started

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talking about idiocy and

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video-idiocy—video idiocy leads us

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to this: let's watch Kiselyov. Of course

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we immediately turn to Dmitry Kiselyov,

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because wherever there's idiocy, wherever there's video,

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there he is, gesturing with his hands like this.

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Kind of like me, but a little differently—he

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does it like this.

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Dmitry Kiselyov has somehow staged a

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renaissance of atomic war, and once again

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he told us that he's ready to destroy

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America, and that in general our mission is—and we

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should boast about the fact that we're now going to

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destroy everyone. Actually, this

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mutual nuclear parity has existed

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for a long time, and we've been able to destroy America since

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the 1960s. On that

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rests part of the global balance: we can

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destroy America, America can

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destroy us, and in that sense, well,

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it's stupid to show videos like this and explain

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it, because both we and they

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have enough missiles to ensure that on

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planet Earth no one would be left alive except

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cockroaches—or maybe some especially

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radiation-resistant turtles, I don't know, whoever else

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there might be.

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But nevertheless, once again we start

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talking about this. And I wouldn't have paid

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attention, except there are also these

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great, funny little things in this video.

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Let's quickly watch Dmitry

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Kiselyov—at 1 minute 6 seconds, he's destroying everyone.

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Fire, Gendevit.

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The government command post where

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the presence of the President of the

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United States is предусмотрed—Fort Ritchie, Maryland; the

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U.S. presidential command post and the command

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center of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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Let's leave it at that for now. And now—West

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McClellan in California, the command of

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the strategic offensive forces, and

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Jim Creek, Washington State.

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Let them calculate.

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The range and speed of our advanced

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weapons systems—we ask only that.

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Let them calculate first. Putin asks them

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to calculate.

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So let's calculate right now. All these

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decision-making centers are not that far from the coast either—

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let's say another 400 kilometers (about 250 miles).

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That makes 800. Zircon flies at a speed of 11,000

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kilometers per hour (about 6,835 mph).

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If so, then to cover 800 kilometers

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Zircon would take just under five minutes.

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A problem for a third-grader.

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A problem for a third-grader: we'll

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destroy everyone, just do the math. But this is only

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the first level

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of idiocy. In fact, the deeper

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issue is that they,

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while making this video,

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watching it, apparently think that we should

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be filled with incredible pride: yes, we

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can destroy Fort Ritchie, a training center

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in Maryland—wow, how awesome, we can

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destroy it. But what's absolutely astonishing is

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that half of these targets that

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Kiselyov talked about—well, that same

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training center, Fort Ritchie, for example, was closed

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in 1998, and McClellan Air Force Base

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hasn't been used since 2001. So this

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video is clearly intended, of course,

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to give some fools inside Russia

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a chance to feel proud of something

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strange—though there's nothing here to be proud of—

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but also to scare Americans. Yet

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Americans just laugh at this, because

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first of all, in your

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propaganda video

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you're saying, 'We know where your

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training center is,' while showing something that

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hasn't existed for a long time. And second—and this is the

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main thing—it's hilariously funny and,

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on the one hand, on the other hand, very

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sad: this famous Zircon missile,

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which Putin talks about endlessly,

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and which Solovyov has just been talking about,

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this very missile has been shown many times,

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and our souls were filled

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with pride.

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That we have a missile, and even, you know,

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those who like

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to sneer were forced to admit: well,

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look, after all, it's obvious that

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we really have revived the defense industry—there is

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a missile, there it is in the photograph,

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just look how beautiful it is. But then

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it turned out that it was a Boeing missile.

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You see, they simply took a photograph

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of an American X-51 missile test

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that was conducted five years ago, in 2013,

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and this whole famous circus act

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turned out to be just a stolen image

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from the internet—an American missile.

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How we would supposedly like to destroy that very

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base. But it is obvious that Kiselyov's program

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is mainly for people who do not use

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the internet and cannot verify any

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information—for those who will probably never

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find out that the Zircon missile does not

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exist—or at least that

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what Kiselyov is showing is an invented

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image.

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But nevertheless, at the very least, the people

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who prepare the program, Dmitry

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Kiselyov himself, and those commissioning it in

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the Presidential Administration, hold so-called

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what are they called again—

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some kind of Friday meetings where everyone

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is given various talking points,

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briefing sessions where they are told:

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you must show this, you must

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show that. Quite a lot has been written in the press

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about this, so we have an idea of what

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is really going on there.

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They tell them: here, you need to make this kind of

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segment. So some guy in

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the Presidential Administration, some

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Putin aide, told Kiselyov

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or his deputy to make a report

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about, well, let's calculate it—Putin

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said to calculate it, so calculate it, and

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show the Zircon missile too. And where are we

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supposed to get a Zircon missile from? No problem—

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for the Zircon missile, just take a picture of an American

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missile. People will swallow it. We'll show it all.

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Crooks, thieves, scoundrels who despise

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the Russian people. In fact,

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this is actually a highly insulting

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report for everyone—liberals and

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"vatniks" (hardline pro-Kremlin patriots), anyone at all. It really is,

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you have to admit, quite insulting. I

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mean, this is crap for Russia's military-industrial complex,

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for the defense sector. Well, it

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shows that, first of all, all of this is a bluff,

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a myth, made-up nonsense—none of it exists. But also,

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they could at least have drawn their own

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Zircon missile, depicted it somehow. But no,

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they simply take and steal an American

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image.

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It is very, very depressing, of course, to

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watch this. Someday, let's just

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remember this one thing:

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when Dmitry Kiselyov

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is sitting in the dock and

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answering for many different things, and

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explaining where he got the money for his apartment—

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first and foremost, of course, we will go after him

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for illicit enrichment, regardless

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of his propaganda antics—he will be

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in the dock because he will not

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be able to explain where he got the money for

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his expensive real estate. But we

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absolutely must ask him there:

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Dimon (a diminutive nickname), now go on, explain this to us—

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right now, here, now that you're already sitting here

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repenting, now that you're here,

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and you've written about how they forced you, Oleg,

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how they pressured you, how you actually always

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hated Putin, how every

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Thursday, every evening,

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you ran to watch YouTube and completely

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agreed with everything being said there—how did you

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screw up so badly with the Zircon missile, and

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don't you think that this is humiliating even

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for your vile propaganda

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little show? Have no doubt, Dmitry

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Kiselyov is watching this program, or

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will watch this clip. And I would very

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much like him to explain to us,

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dear Dmitry, how exactly did it happen

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that an American

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missile was passed off as a Russian one? Ministerial

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rat. Did you hear what Kiselyov said about

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400 kilometers (about 250 miles) to America? To that

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someone reacts—but no, he was saying that it was

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400 kilometers (about 250 miles) from the submarine to

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America, and then another 400 kilometers (about 250 miles) to the

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targets.

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All right, I'll talk about Smart Voting later.

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About the previous segment—Vladislav asks,

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"Alexei, I am surprised

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why sanctioned food is being destroyed.

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Couldn't they simply stop buying it

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and sell off what has already been bought?" Well,

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it is commercial businesses that buy it.

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You see, they cannot stop doing that

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because you want to eat cheese

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produced in France or Germany—

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that is, you simply want normal

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cheese, as well as

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other products. Look at what

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they supposedly bring us from Belarus now—oysters

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and cheese and everything under the sun—because demand

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creates supply. You sit there and say,

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"Damn, I want proper cheese,"

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you go to the market and buy it. But if you go to any

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market—at least in Moscow—

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you will see a lot of

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so-called sanctioned products.

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People bring it in anyway. We are a very

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corrupt country, and customs is

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one of the most corrupt institutions

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in this "cultured" country, so everything

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is flooded with so-called sanctioned

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products. Where they need to file a report,

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they destroy this cheese, but its flow

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cannot be stopped. I mean, this could

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only be done if everything were fully produced here

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in Russia, but some

22:53

products, as you yourself understand,

22:57

objectively cannot be produced in

22:59

Russia because of the climate, for example. Besides,

23:02

that,

23:03

to shut ourselves off is simply to shut ourselves off,

23:06

including from global technologies. But we

23:08

No, we can't—we never learned how to produce

23:10

this kind of cheese, and we probably never will. In the

23:14

global division of labor, if we're going to use

23:16

terms like that, okay,

23:20

Russia will never be able to produce

23:22

cheese like they do in France. There's nothing

23:24

terrible about that. It means we should learn

23:26

to produce something else, and in that

23:29

sense, people in France will buy something

23:31

from us—I don't know, maybe bread slicers, whatever.

23:35

Or better yet, some kind of machinery or

23:37

software. In that sense, the state can't

23:39

stop imports; it can only

23:42

make money off this

23:44

smuggling—specific officials can.

23:46

Or it can absurdly destroy goods like this. We

23:48

already discussed one idiotic video, but

23:54

we've got another idiotic video. Do you

23:57

remember, not long ago I showed you one and

23:59

was really outraged, because I genuinely

24:01

was outraged by that train

24:03

that was traveling from Laos across all of Russia,

24:07

for thousands and thousands of kilometers, carrying

24:10

Czechoslovak tanks made after

24:13

the war, passed off as some kind of wartime T-34s

24:17

that people were literally bowing to

24:19

and praying to. It was, well, the height of idiocy.

24:22

Yes, but now something even more outrageous

24:28

is happening. Apparently they decided that train worked,

24:30

and now

24:31

they're hauling something else across Russia, and people are again praying to it and

24:36

bowing down and greeting it in cities—it's just

24:39

some kind of Syrian junk

24:43

being presented as war trophies. That is,

24:46

it's supposedly weapons taken from militants in

24:51

Syria, where, incidentally, formally speaking, we

24:53

don't have any ground troops at all. Right? We

24:56

only have ground forces there for

24:57

base security. And now across Russia they're

25:00

dragging around some scrap metal too and

25:02

solemnly

25:03

welcoming it at every little station, while Young Pioneers

25:06

give salutes and Komsomol members (Communist youth league members) kiss the banner,

25:10

and all sorts of generals

25:13

talk about what a wonderful thing it is.

25:15

Let's listen. Here's a colonel general

25:19

from the Ministry of Defense, from the Main

25:21

Military-Political

25:23

Directorate—that is, a political commissar, a political commissar

25:26

telling us what a

25:28

great idea this is. Forty-three seconds in: trophy

25:31

weapons. Today, on Defender of the Fatherland Day,

25:40

we are launching a traveling military-

25:45

patriotic campaign.

25:47

"Syrian Breakthrough." This campaign is being held

25:51

by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian

25:53

Federation by decision of the president of our

25:56

country.

25:58

Departing from Kazansky Railway Station here in Moscow,

26:01

this train carrying weapons and equipment seized from

26:05

terrorists in Syria will cover nearly 29,000

26:08

kilometers and finish on April 27

26:14

at Patriot Park.

26:17

It's astonishing that these are actually people

26:20

in real life, not in a comedy film. This wasn't invented

26:24

by some random guys. Danila Poperechny (a Russian stand-up comedian) didn't

26:28

make this up for one of his sketches. This is

26:31

actually, genuinely happening. These are people with

26:33

big salaries, standing there and saying:

26:35

"By decision of the president of our country, we

26:38

are sending something on a 29,000-kilometer journey for two

26:42

months, and obviously spending many millions

26:46

of rubles on hauling around some kind of

26:49

bits of metal of unclear

26:52

origin, and this is called a military-

26:55

patriotic campaign, Syrian..." And

26:56

what exactly are we celebrating, tell me, please?

26:59

I mean, you announced three times that we

27:03

had defeated the militants in Syria, and yet

27:05

apparently we hadn't, because when there was some kind of

27:11

fairly large combat clash

27:13

on the ground, involving on one side

27:15

those representatives of that very

27:17

"Putin's cook" (a reference to Yevgeny Prigozhin) on the other side, and

27:20

some Syrians there as well,

27:21

and with American support,

27:23

unfortunately our side there was completely crushed.

27:26

A hundred people were killed

27:28

without a single loss on the opposing

27:30

side. Is that what you're proud of? I don't

27:33

understand. I mean, it's not clear what's

27:36

going on, with no clear

27:37

end in sight. Putin repeatedly

27:39

declared that he had withdrawn the troops, sent in

27:40

troops, defeated the militants—oh no, not defeated them,

27:43

just a little left, we're continuing

27:44

the operation, we've won again, and then a month

27:48

later we've won yet again—and now they're hauling this for 29,000

27:53

kilometers across the country. All this

27:56

just shows that we still have more to see

27:59

ahead.

28:00

Oh, as the band Nol (a Soviet/Russian rock band) sang: how lovely the berries will be

28:04

if the flowers are already so lovely. Because

28:08

this is just total trash. People were always

28:12

interested in how the Soviet

28:14

Union, or North Korea, or Turkmenistan

28:18

slides into this kind of extreme idiocy.

28:22

You all love watching all sorts of

28:24

funny videos from Turkmenistan—how the president

28:27

plays golf better than anyone, how he beats everyone,

28:29

how he lifts weights, how he

28:31

dances better than anyone else, literally

28:33

how he, I don't know, sings better than anyone,

28:36

recites poetry,

28:38

he does everything—and you watch it and

28:42

laugh and think, wow, those Turkmens are really something.

28:45

Or those famous videos of Kim

28:48

Jong-un walking around, and around him, first of all,

28:51

there are generals standing there with these little

28:53

notebooks, supposedly writing down his wise

28:54

thoughts, while ordinary people are weeping. You

28:58

can easily find it on YouTube right now—they're crying

29:00

and running, and you think to yourself,

29:04

well, thank goodness we don't live there. But on

29:07

that train traveling from Laos, and

29:12

now back again from Laos with those supposed T-34 tanks,

29:14

those T-34s, and now again with some kind of

29:17

rusty bits of metal that most likely

29:19

It won’t even be Syria anymore — it’ll just be scrap metal.

29:22

they’ve piled it up

29:22

And on this very train, we’ll arrive exactly there.

29:25

And we won’t even have time to look around before it happens so fast.

29:28

Because now, as you know, they’ve passed

29:31

the law on insulting representatives

29:32

of the authorities. First of all, and second, because of

29:35

this law, state

29:38

media are already being shielded from it — that is, Dmitry Kiselyov.

29:41

Sorry, I misspoke.

29:44

They passed the law on combating fake news, and because of

29:47

the fake news law, Dmitry

29:49

Kiselyov is exempt, because otherwise you and I

29:52

would have had the opportunity to file, for example,

29:55

a complaint against him under that law, like:

29:58

"Dude, you showed a fake missile,

30:00

an American one — so let me now..."

30:02

But there will be no administrative liability.

30:03

This law is supposedly going to apply to us,

30:07

to you and me, but not to Dmitry Kiselyov.

30:08

It won’t, because, as that

30:11

author said, right now we don’t have the tools

30:13

for sufficient oversight, and so, basically,

30:15

traditional media are supposedly free of that — well,

30:17

what kind of fake stories does Kiselyov tell — but anyway.

30:19

One, two, three — by climbing this little staircase, we’ll get fairly

30:23

close to the place where Turkmenistan

30:27

and North Korea already are. We’re getting very close.

30:30

We keep getting newer and newer details about the military

30:35

heroics of Putin’s father. It’s already turning out that

30:37

he supposedly went on reconnaissance missions there, and tomorrow

30:40

it’ll turn out that he personally went there

30:43

and captured

30:45

Field Marshal Paulus, and something else will come out too.

30:49

I assure you, it will all gradually come out.

30:52

In the previous program, I talked about

30:54

that funny case with Beglov (Alexander Beglov, a Russian official), who

30:56

first lied that he had saved a woman from

30:58

Then some lackeys came running up and

31:00

started saying, yes, yes, yes, he saved a woman

31:03

because he’s used to saving everyone, after all

31:05

back in 1988 in Armenia,

31:07

after the earthquake, he saved a boy from

31:09

a house. I mean, people invent these

31:12

stories at such a speed that it’s

31:15

truly astonishing, and they’ll come up with many more like them,

31:19

from fabricated defense successes

31:26

to made-up victories. Now let’s

31:29

move on to the real state of our

31:32

defense-industrial complex, which is

31:34

of course very, very depressing. And do you know

31:39

which one is Putin’s

31:41

favorite factory? What is Putin’s favorite factory?

31:43

Tell me — and you know me from this angle,

31:45

Alexei — and of course it’s Uralvagonzavod.

31:48

The guys from Uralvagonzavod came out

31:51

and said they’d come and break up you and

31:53

people like you who were gathering there on

31:56

Bolotnaya Square (a well-known protest site in Moscow). That video has been shown

32:01

many times — 32 seconds, or rather 25

32:03

seconds — but we have to keep

32:05

watching it, because it’s one of those "spiritual staples" (a Russian ideological buzzword)

32:07

of Putin’s 2012 election

32:10

and of his current government in general, which

32:13

says that there are these supposedly

32:15

real Russian people, real men,

32:18

who want to look at a train carrying

32:21

trophies from Syria, and the next day they

32:24

want to look at a train carrying

32:26

Czechoslovak T-34 tanks, and they want

32:29

to watch Dmitry Kiselyov. So you

32:32

there, all you hipsters,

32:33

with your paper cups, shut up and be glad

32:36

silently

32:37

while the real men do what they want.

32:41

And these men said it — those 25 seconds

32:44

were very important, and they continue

32:47

to play

32:47

a key role in Putinist ideology. 25

32:51

seconds to the screen.

32:54

I want to say this about these rallies: if our

32:56

militsiya — or whatever it’s called now,

32:58

the police — doesn’t know how to do its job and can’t

33:01

cope, then we men are ready to go out ourselves

33:04

and defend our stability. Well,

33:06

of course, within the framework of Russian law.

33:09

Look, our police are doing their job — victory

33:14

because if events on the square start up, come by

33:16

and you’ll see how cool they were joking: we

33:20

will come, we’ll disperse them — come on over, guys.

33:23

And now I want to say that, well,

33:26

you

33:27

you filthy Kremlin crooks sold out all

33:30

these men. I keep talking here about Uralvagonzavod,

33:32

by the way — I mention it constantly here,

33:34

but on television they’ve completely stopped

33:38

talking about it. I mean,

33:41

of course it certainly irritates me

33:43

that Uralvagonzavod and

33:46

some of its workers were at one time

33:47

used for this propaganda,

33:50

and probably many people at Uralvagonzavod back then

33:54

really did buy into it and thought, well yes,

33:56

those Moscow guys are showing off or something,

33:58

why are they showing off, everything’s

34:00

fine. But now time has passed,

34:03

and at Uralvagonzavod people

34:06

are taking their own lives because

34:10

their standard of living — because there’s nothing to eat, and

34:13

now news has come that at this

34:16

plant, during a work shift, one of the

34:19

employees killed himself. The suicide

34:21

of the 27-year-old man happened after

34:24

he came out of a meeting with managers where

34:28

they said that wages were being cut again,

34:31

that it was impossible to raise pay,

34:33

to increase wages. And according to the words

34:36

of the plant’s employees, this is already the third case

34:39

of suicide in recent times. These

34:41

suicide cases are in many ways

34:44

happening simply because people

34:45

have been driven to despair. They have

34:47

no prospects at all.

34:48

And this is very easy to verify right now.

34:55

If you and I simply go to job websites

35:00

and imagine that we live in Nizhny Tagil,

35:03

a fairly significant number of people

35:05

living in Nizhny

35:06

Either they are watching this program, or

35:08

they’ll watch it later, not live.

35:10

That’s how people live there. Whether you’re a man or a woman,

35:13

you have to feed your family, you have to

35:16

feed your child, or two children, you want to

35:18

find a job. It’s a town-forming enterprise (the main employer in the city),

35:20

there are two big enterprises there. You look at

35:22

Uralvagonzavod, and Putin, after all, keeps saying to

35:24

the men there: come on in.

35:26

The assumption is that somehow he’ll take care of

35:29

them, give them something. So we search, we type in

35:31

“jobs at Uralvagonzavod.”

35:34

And what do we find there? Gear grinder — 20,000

35:39

rubles.

35:39

Machine operator — 20,000 rubles.

35:43

Milling machine operator — 20,000 rubles. Drill operator —

35:46

drill operator, drill operator.

35:49

20,000 rubles. How can a family

35:54

live and survive on that money? This is for an adult

35:57

man. Obviously, a machine operator,

35:59

or a gear grinder, or a milling machine operator — that’s

36:02

someone who works hard, expends

36:05

a lot of physical effort. He needs to eat

36:08

properly, at the very least. Could he do that

36:11

on 20,000? No, he couldn’t. Why does a state-owned

36:14

enterprise under Rostec pay him 20,000?

36:17

And right now that question sounds especially

36:20

sharp, damn it, against the backdrop of the apartment

36:23

that belongs to the head of Rostec,

36:26

Sergei Chemezov. This grinder,

36:28

all these people, these

36:30

workers — how long do you think they would have to work

36:33

to buy an apartment like

36:36

Chemezov’s?

36:37

20,000 years, you understand.

36:43

Now, I’m not disputing that the head of Rostec

36:46

should earn more than a milling machine operator

36:49

at Uralvagonzavod.

36:50

But 20,000 years to save up for an apartment like that —

36:55

you see, 5-billion-ruble

36:58

apartments and 20,000-ruble salaries — how does that

37:02

happen? Two weeks ago, 25

37:05

Uralvagonzavod workers

37:08

went to court over new rules for calculating their

37:11

wages, because under the new rules

37:15

their pay became

37:16

lower. How can you make sense of this?

37:21

How can the purchase of

37:24

5-billion-ruble apartments and 20,000-ruble salaries

37:27

happen at the same time, especially at a factory that Putin is supposed to

37:30

practically worship? If you’ve made

37:34

Uralvagonzavod the symbol of

37:37

your power, then give them money. If you’re

37:40

pouring such enormous amounts of money

37:43

into defense right now, and all day long

37:46

you’re on television just brainwashing everyone

37:48

about our missiles, our super-tanks,

37:51

our defense industry, how our

37:54

American partners should count on our missile

37:56

reaching them,

37:56

well, if that’s what you’re doing, then

37:59

pay them. Yes, yes, maybe there’s no way

38:03

to pay everyone 100,000 or 200,000

38:06

rubles, which would be a normal

38:10

salary for a skilled worker at

38:13

a large factory in any European

38:15

country. 200,000 rubles would be close to the minimum there.

38:17

But at least, I don’t know, raise it to

38:21

70,000 to 80,000. Can’t you make it so that

38:24

the minimum wage for workers at

38:26

Uralvagonzavod is equal to the average salary in

38:29

Moscow? You can.

38:31

Why not? Because the urge to steal

38:33

is so strong that

38:36

it would never even occur to Chemezov, not even remotely,

38:40

you understand, to buy an apartment not

38:43

for 5 billion rubles, but for 1 billion, and

38:45

let the rest go to someone else.

38:48

It doesn’t even occur to them that they ought

38:51

to feel ashamed about this. They do not want

38:55

to feel ashamed. And what is Uralvagonzavod to them?

38:58

So what if three people took their own

39:00

lives? Well, it’s not us — that’s just life,

39:05

that’s how life is.

39:06

After all, ha-ha-ha, they supported Putin, so

39:09

fine, let them now get their fill of that Putin

39:11

by the spoonful. And I absolutely do not

39:15

approve of those sarcastic

39:17

comments. I saw a lot of them, as always,

39:19

on Twitter, of course. Everyone

39:21

remembered and started writing things like, well,

39:23

let them

39:25

suffer for how they

39:29

voted, let them suffer for what they

39:31

were calling for there in their workshop.

39:33

That is absolutely the wrong position. They

39:37

may have said those things back then, and they may have pressured others,

39:39

they may even have spoken sincerely — but still,

39:41

they are people. You cannot treat them like that,

39:44

you cannot mock them like that, you cannot insult them like that, you cannot

39:46

humiliate them like that, you cannot drive people to

39:48

suicide. That is what they are actually doing.

39:52

Scoundrels — what else is there to say? And you see,

39:55

Putin claimed to love Uralvagonzavod, but he does nothing.

39:58

More than that,

40:00

the workers there have to sue for their wages.

40:02

And I’m saying right now, on air:

40:05

those 25 people who are suing there — I don’t know whether you have

40:07

a union or no union — if

40:09

the workers of Uralvagonzavod need

40:12

legal help to sue

40:15

their management over their wages, then I will help them,

40:17

and the Anti-Corruption Foundation will help them,

40:19

and you and I, if necessary,

40:21

if we need to hire lawyers in Nizhny Tagil,

40:23

we’ll chip in and hire lawyers in Nizhny

40:25

Tagil. I very much want us to do that

40:28

so that we can shove it in Putin’s face, and in the faces of all

40:29

the others, and say to them:

40:32

here are your workers, you understand, here are your

40:34

workers who puffed out their chests over Bolotnaya Square (the site of major anti-government protests in Moscow), and when things got bad for them,

40:37

who was it that did not come to help?

40:39

It was decent people, the people who gathered

40:41

at Bolotnaya Square, who are helping — and you

40:43

did nothing except steal from them

40:45

the last of what they had. So it turns out that this

40:50

program, in a way,

40:51

today’s episode is devoted to power, to might.

40:58

our defense about mice with our

41:00

space industry before we moved on

41:02

to Dagestan.

41:03

I just can't skip over the topic

41:07

of a grand breakthrough in space

41:10

that is supposed to happen in the near future,

41:14

because, well, in recent years, after

41:17

Dmitry Rogozin took charge of the whole

41:19

space sector, nothing has really

41:23

been happening—except for putting on these,

41:27

you know, flashy, loud

41:30

presentations. I mean, our Vostochny Cosmodrome

41:33

Vostochny

41:35

was presented with much less pomp,

41:38

even though there was not much there worth presenting,

41:40

since everything failed there—deadlines, everything.

41:42

But then they also somehow managed

41:44

to outdo themselves with this whole spectacle.

41:46

We got this super-mega space

41:50

presentation that Rogozin held in the presence

41:53

of a huge number

41:55

of journalists—and it was about an office building

41:59

that Roscosmos was going to build, if you can believe it.

42:03

Because what Russian space really needs right now,

42:08

more than salaries, not

42:14

technology, not specialists who

42:17

have all scattered, not young people, not even the old

42:19

Soviet-era staff who are already too old—no,

42:22

none of that is needed. Or if it is, then only

42:25

secondarily.

42:26

Good contractors who actually build things without

42:28

stealing money, like at Vostochny—

42:30

no, that's not what's needed. What we need is an office, we need

42:34

a major construction project in Moscow, and here you can see

42:37

in these images

42:38

they really want to build in Fili, in

42:40

Filyovsky Park, some gigantic monstrosity

42:44

of course of colossal size and,

42:47

naturally, shaped like a rocket.

42:49

Elon Musk, excuse me, you're a loser,

42:52

because you don't understand that in order

42:55

for your little thing there to land and

42:58

take off better, you need to

43:00

build a huge

43:01

building shaped like a Tesla—specifically, a Tesla taking off

43:05

into the air. Only then will anything

43:08

start working. At Roscosmos, that seems to be exactly

43:11

how they think: you need a giant building. It

43:13

will cost 25 billion rubles (about US$270 million). Apparently there is no

43:18

greater priority, it turns out.

43:21

Back in the Soviet Union, we had

43:24

a huge number of enterprises.

43:25

Take the Khrunichev Center plant, for example, on the site

43:28

of which they now simply want

43:29

to build this monstrosity. And all those other countless

43:33

enterprises—they were built, well,

43:35

as it turns out, with no office space at all.

43:38

There was apparently none to be found anywhere.

43:41

The designers must have been sitting

43:43

out in the street all the time—there were no design bureaus, none of that.

43:46

Korolev (the chief Soviet rocket engineer) must have done it all from a dugout.

43:49

And now Rogozin came in, looked around for a year,

43:51

and said: guys, I've figured it out—we need buildings

43:55

shaped like rockets, and then everything will work.

43:59

What I'm saying isn't just some kind of

44:01

mockery or sarcasm, you know. This genuinely

44:04

really worries me, because

44:06

I live in Moscow, and I don't like that these

44:09

people are, first of all, going to build this building

44:13

for 25 billion rubles (about US$270 million) when we have better things

44:16

to spend money on, and we simply do not need

44:18

yet another kind of strange, incomprehensible

44:20

ugly Pyramid of Khufu looming over Moscow.

44:23

NASA, for your information, does not build buildings like that.

44:27

If we look at the launch charts, at

44:31

the number of launches—let's compare

44:33

Russia with the United States and even China—

44:37

there, you see, that red, sad red

44:41

line going downward is the number

44:43

of our launches. You see, it has fallen. In the

44:48

space sector, we have started falling behind

44:51

in a truly catastrophic way. If you look at

44:53

the commercial launch charts, well, we have

44:55

completely collapsed there.

44:57

We are lagging behind very seriously, even behind

45:00

China, and our response to that is to build

45:02

a new building. That's the first thing. And second,

45:06

come on, guys, let's be honest here—we all

45:08

know why.

45:09

And why is this happening? If you

45:12

live in Moscow, especially in the western

45:14

part of the city, then you understand. And if you don't,

45:16

let's just look at the picture.

45:18

Even Muscovites will find it useful

45:23

to get a better sense of where the Khrunichev plant

45:27

is located. You see this nice little

45:30

spot, surrounded on all sides by the Moscow

45:35

River? I mean, it's just amazing, and

45:39

a really great place for what? For residential

45:45

development, damn it—for luxury housing.

45:48

And it has already been stated outright that part

45:51

of the Khrunichev plant's territory will be

45:54

given over to

45:54

an ugly giant rocket costing 25

45:57

billion rubles (about US$270 million),

45:58

and everything else will be handed over for development.

46:02

So basically, we'll just cram in private

46:04

housing, and some people will make

46:07

a lot of money from it. I think both Rogozin and Sobyanin (Moscow's mayor)

46:10

will be very pleased, as will the Moscow

46:12

construction establishment, because in

46:16

western Moscow

46:16

—an environmentally cleaner part of the city—there are no longer

46:19

such enormous sites available for

46:21

large-scale development. And of course,

46:23

the infrastructure there is excellent. Well, the

46:27

Khrunichev plant used to manufacture the Proton rocket,

46:29

which for many years was the most

46:33

reliable launch vehicle in the world.

46:36

And only in recent years did it stop

46:38

being that way. So what exactly is Putin's fault in this?

46:40

That he wrecked the space

46:43

industry—even the ultra-reliable Proton

46:45

stopped being reliable, and it was

46:49

produced there. Obviously,

46:50

the utilities, electricity, sewage,

46:54

networks, and everything else there are

46:56

all in very good shape. In other words, it's a really prime

46:58

It’s a site on the west side—just take it and build.

47:01

With the Moscow River all around, it’s perfect for housing.

47:07

It’ll sell brilliantly—fly off the shelves.

47:09

Like hot pies, and they

47:11

and they’re destroying the factory for all of this, well,

47:17

if such a large facility isn’t needed on this site

47:19

such a big factory in our city,

47:21

then fine, you can do something else there.

47:26

But they’re seriously

47:30

trying to tell us that, for the sake of

47:33

developing the complex, we’re supposed to stick up a huge

47:35

rocket and surround it with commercial housing, but

47:38

maybe they should continue doing something on that

47:40

territory, since it’s connected to

47:44

space—it’s high technology, it’s like

47:47

Putin said there,

47:48

highly skilled jobs, and

47:51

obviously they should be well paid.

47:53

Maybe we should keep doing something on that

47:55

site, if it’s such a unique place.

47:56

But no—they don’t care. Tomorrow

48:00

we won’t be here anymore, thinks Rogozin,

48:03

Sobyanin, Putin, and all the rest: we need

48:05

to grab what we can in five years, and now they’ve simply

48:07

seen a piece of land, and on that piece of

48:10

land they want to cash in. Of course, I would really

48:12

like Muscovites—and really, this

48:14

concerns every citizen of Russia—to

48:18

understand that this is happening and to treat it

48:21

less lightly, simply.

48:24

We shouldn’t be outraged that

48:26

the rocket costs 25 billion rubles (about $270 million); we

48:28

should be outraged that this is

48:30

a sham, that instead of

48:33

developing the space industry,

48:35

this whole gang has given up on

48:40

the space industry and rushed off

48:42

to actually carry out nothing more than a project

48:44

to build luxury housing, and nothing

48:47

else. That is exactly

48:48

what this is: a luxury housing development

48:51

project.

48:54

BadComedian—I want to talk to you about

48:57

BadComedian, because

49:00

I watched his latest video,

49:04

where he reviews the film *Gazgolder*.

49:08

It’s already got almost five

49:09

million views. I think almost everyone

49:11

has seen it, but if you haven’t,

49:13

watch it through to the end. I watched it, and

49:15

usually I watch, laugh—he’s incredibly

49:18

funny, what a talented guy—but this time I

49:21

actually felt a kind of jealousy,

49:23

because in a review that’s almost an hour long,

49:28

for the last 20 minutes Evgeny just

49:33

took this

49:35

pension reform—Putin’s increase in the

49:38

retirement age—and just like at the start, when

49:40

they showed the destruction of

49:44

imported cheese (a reference to Russia’s food embargo), he just took it and

49:46

absolutely burned it to the ground, and did it amazingly

49:49

well. And it seemed very important to me,

49:55

because what we saw there was not just

49:58

someone dragging officials’ faces across the table,

50:01

all of them,

50:03

but, really, this is

50:04

a public figure, and this is a person

50:06

who normally just reviews movies,

50:08

but he considered this important, and he

50:12

did it, he did it.

50:14

Brilliantly, fantastically. More than that, he

50:16

very effectively mobilized public

50:20

opinion and showed, with just one of his videos,

50:23

how, through the force of public opinion, he even

50:27

made one of those people loudly speaking out

50:32

in favor of the pension reform—

50:33

the rapper Basta—publicly apologize.

50:36

But before we discuss Basta, I wanted

50:39

to show you a short clip.

50:40

I was watching and thinking: why didn’t I do that?

50:43

Why didn’t I do it? He just went ahead

50:47

and put together a few seconds. Let’s

50:49

look at how they lied about the number of

50:55

workers per pensioner, because in the logic of this reform

50:58

one of the main ideas was a fake one:

51:00

that supposedly almost nobody in our country

51:03

works, while there are far too many

51:06

pensioners. Let’s watch—if I remember right,

51:08

it’s literally 40 seconds. We have fewer than

51:11

two people

51:12

per pensioner—more precisely, 1.8 working

51:15

citizens.

51:16

1.2 workers support

51:20

one pensioner. 1.2—see, that’s just not true.

51:23

In today’s Russia, where

51:26

half the adult population are pensioners,

51:29

and working people are actually a minority—

51:34

such a simple thing. Yes, just a few seconds, but he simply

51:36

destroyed them—burned it all down.

51:38

Absolutely magnificent. And with Basta, it turned out

51:41

great. I remember very well

51:44

when we were organizing rallies against

51:47

raising the retirement age, I was writing

51:50

posts, recording videos every day. What an

51:53

unpleasant moment it was when the rapper

51:55

Basta, at a press conference and then

51:57

several times on his social media,

51:59

openly came out in support of this

52:03

increase in the retirement age. This was

52:05

used very actively

52:08

by propagandists. I talked about it, and it seemed

52:10

pretty obvious to me that he had been paid,

52:12

frankly. And in

52:15

Evgeny BadComedian’s review, he also

52:18

talked about it, and he said there quite clearly and

52:21

plainly that

52:23

you were paid. There were a lot of

52:25

complaints directed specifically at Basta on this issue,

52:29

addressed to him,

52:30

and they were delivered in a rather

52:32

specific, direct, and aggressive

52:34

manner. Let’s watch this 42-second clip.

52:36

Basta & BadComedian

52:37

This is, you know, forced therapy.

52:40

It resembles a surgical procedure

52:42

that simply has to be done. All of this

52:44

is inevitable,

52:46

a condition for survival. I’m very sorry, well.

52:48

Of course, that’s how it happens, for example, with

52:50

Basta (stage name of Russian rapper Vasily Vakulenko) — it’s hard for him to know about the outrageous

52:53

tax breaks granted to major corporations.

52:55

It’s hard to know that official wages

52:57

are understated relative to

52:59

labor productivity.

53:00

As a result, contributions to the Pension Fund of Russia (PFR) are lower.

53:04

He has no time — he sings songs. But why is it that

53:06

you, the working class, never asked yourselves

53:08

why we ended up in a situation where

53:12

supposedly there’s no money — “hang in there, all the best to you” (a reference to a famous dismissive phrase by former Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev).

53:15

All the best, good luck, and so on — and yet

53:17

we keep ending up in this situation over and over again,

53:19

when those at the top are supposedly forced not to pay people

53:23

or feel the need to squeeze even more out of them

53:25

than before.

53:26

I’m pointing this out not to say, “Look,”

53:29

“how cool, there was this battle between”

53:32

Zemlyanoy, Basta, and BadComedian (Russian film critic and YouTuber) — “destroyed,”

53:35

sure, someone got “destroyed” there, but much more importantly,

53:37

something else happened: public opinion was mobilized.

53:41

It was brought together, and that public opinion

53:44

ran straight to Basta to tell him, “Dude,”

53:47

“how could you do this? You shouldn’t have done it.”

53:50

And besides, now

53:51

it’s become clear that all of it was a complete lie.

53:54

Back then, some people understood it; now

53:56

many people understand it — why did you do it?

53:58

And Basta apologized — which is absolutely

54:02

an amazing thing, something we can and

54:05

should achieve through mobilizing this

54:08

public opinion. Our public figures,

54:12

artists, singers — whoever they may be —

54:18

the best of them try to stay silent. Well, actually,

54:22

only a very small number of them

54:24

speak out. And what does a significant

54:28

number of the most disgusting and

54:30

corrupt ones think? They’ve sold out. And a large number

54:32

simply stay silent.

54:35

And that is awful — their silence

54:37

is disgusting, especially when we see that

54:39

when an opinion leader like

54:41

BadComedian specifically starts

54:44

speaking out, everything changes instantly, and

54:46

Basta came out too — and to give him his due,

54:48

yes, he understood, he understood that he

54:53

shouldn’t have done it. He understood that

54:55

public opinion was completely against it, and

54:57

he fully realized it was a mistake. Whether he was paid or not —

54:59

he says he wasn’t paid —

55:01

no one will know that now, at least

55:03

not until we find out. But pressure was put on him, in the

55:06

good sense of the word.

55:07

So everyone rushed in, and he said something like,

55:09

“Alright then, I’ll say that I was wrong.”

55:13

Let’s take a look for a minute.

55:14

Basta after BadComedian: “Dear friends,”

55:18

“After discussing Zhenya BadComedian’s (Evgeny Bazhenov’s) latest release, in which he

55:20

reviews our film and touches on

55:22

my modest person,”

55:24

“my modest person,”

55:25

“I decided to record an official video statement.”

55:29

“I’ll be reading it, and to be very clear,”

55:32

“I want to offer my sincere apologies

55:33

to everyone who was not indifferent to, or was offended by,

55:36

my position on the pension

55:37

reform, voiced by me at a press

55:39

conference in Rostov-on-Don in September.”

55:41

“I should not have asserted anything

55:44

without fully understanding the important nuances

55:46

of the pension reform.”

55:47

“My opinion was based on several

55:49

articles I had read,”

55:51

“using inaccurate and distorted data. I am sincerely sorry

55:53

that my words were understood

55:55

and quoted in that way, and also

55:57

compared with the position of propagandists.”

55:59

“I also do not understand the accusations of my

56:01

being bought by the authorities, financially or

56:03

ideologically. I have never had, and do not have,

56:05

any such relationship with the authorities.”

56:07

“I offer my sincere apologies to everyone

56:09

for whom my position became the basis

56:11

for a discussion that I would like

56:13

to end with my one clear point of view:”

56:15

“I do not support the pension

56:17

reform; I consider it a major mistake. I have always

56:20

had the courage to admit my mistakes,”

56:21

“and I believe it is necessary to do so now.”

56:23

“Thank you for your understanding. Hugs to everyone.”

56:26

“Yours, Vakulenko.”

56:28

It’s a success story from every angle, you see.

56:32

BadComedian recorded a video and got

56:34

more views, and I looked at

56:36

the comments — people were simply

56:38

thrilled, absolutely thrilled.

56:40

With the second part, he got even more

56:42

views.

56:43

In the end, he’ll probably get

56:46

more money, more donations; his

56:48

authority has grown. All those cowardly

56:51

bloggers and actors who say, “I’m not going

56:52

to talk about politics because, well, I don’t know,”

56:54

“people might not like it, or my support might

56:56

drop, so I’ll just hint at things between the lines” —

56:59

no need for that. Here, this person showed

57:01

that if you say everything you really think, honor and

57:05

respect come from all sides. It benefits him,

57:07

and that’s good. It benefits us too, and that’s good,

57:10

because Vakulenko also came out and said,

57:12

“Guys, I read the wrong article. I shouldn’t have

57:15

spoken in favor of it,” and that’s good for him too. People are writing to him,

57:18

“Well, Vasya, so after all

57:21

you made a mistake and admitted it — that means something.”

57:23

People love that. It benefits us, and it benefits him,

57:26

as well. That’s great. So, dear

57:29

figures of culture,

57:31

don’t just talk in your kitchens — speak out, you know,

57:34

record it on your phone and post it.

57:36

That’s first. And second, everyone, please apply

57:39

pressure

57:40

to those cultural figures who stay silent, and

57:43

give support to those cultural figures

57:45

who do not stay silent. That is very

57:47

important. So then,

57:50

naked men and women are always interesting,

57:53

after all, it’s something to discuss, especially since

57:55

naked men and women — well, probably if

57:58

If they were completely naked, I wouldn’t be able to show them to you.

58:00

But

58:01

a video with slightly undressed men and

58:05

women — it

58:07

caused a huge stir this week and became

58:10

one of the main news stories, and a very

58:11

significant one, it seemed to me, at the news level.

58:13

Despite a certain strange

58:15

comic undertone, let’s immediately

58:17

watch this scandalous 32-

58:21

second video.

58:25

[music]

58:31

edit

58:36

And now a significant number of

58:57

viewers of the program are saying: you promised

59:00

us a naked man and a naked woman — what

59:02

is this?

59:05

It looks quite modest, doesn’t it?

59:10

But because of this theatrical

59:12

production in Dagestan, there was almost

59:14

a revolution over it, because

59:17

Khabib, our famous, celebrated

59:20

athlete, currently the most famous

59:23

Dagestani in Russia and certainly in the world,

59:26

one of the most famous athletes in the world,

59:30

in Dagestan he is an absolute legend, and well,

59:32

he has 17 million followers

59:34

on Instagram — somehow he saw

59:37

this video, and the nudity of these people outraged him

59:39

so much that he wrote a post on

59:42

Instagram, then deleted it, then again

59:44

wrote one. Let’s look at this post.

59:46

So: naked men and women are kissing

59:50

in the city center.

59:53

Where is the law? Who will answer for this pornography?

59:56

Then he advises the governments of other

59:58

countries that they conducted an investigation,

1:00:00

and apologized.

1:00:01

Otherwise, we’ll take to the streets and take

1:00:04

everything into our own hands. Take action — you are mistaken.

1:00:06

And it was really such a harsh attack, with a

1:00:09

fundamentalist character.

1:00:12

Naturally, the frightened, miserable

1:00:14

actors of this troupe from the MMC

1:00:18

from Moscow, the play *Hunt for Men*,

1:00:20

naturally got scared and put out

1:00:23

some kind of apology, and there were really

1:00:26

some dramatic events

1:00:28

around all this.

1:00:30

And this is very important, because we

1:00:35

need to discuss whether it can be

1:00:38

that one person, very, very

1:00:41

popular and very conservatively

1:00:43

minded, can simply literally

1:00:46

drive musicians out of an entire federal subject (region of Russia),

1:00:48

including musicians like Yegor Kreed in particular.

1:00:51

As I recall, he also drove out some rappers, well,

1:00:53

basically everyone else who gets a little

1:00:55

undressed — he just

1:00:58

drives them out of Makhachkala and out of

1:01:01

Dagestan. He has quite a large group

1:01:02

of supporters, people like him, and well, this

1:01:06

looks a little strange. For example, in

1:01:08

Makhachkala there is a beach, and today I did

1:01:11

the strange thing of googling pictures

1:01:13

for the query “Makhachkala beach,”

1:01:15

and there, generally speaking, there are fairly

1:01:19

undressed people — in swimsuits — and they

1:01:22

are on the beach. I don’t know, tell me,

1:01:25

those of you from Makhachkala: are these people

1:01:27

then stoned afterward or what?

1:01:29

What happens? I mean, I assume that

1:01:31

after all, in Makhachkala

1:01:32

there are different kinds of people.

1:01:35

Many love wrestling and love Khabib, and

1:01:38

there are also those who go to the theater.

1:01:42

Some go to the movies, some go to

1:01:45

libraries, and they don’t see any big

1:01:49

problem in the fact that there are books there, and in books

1:01:52

there are different illustrations. Or there is a museum, and in a

1:01:55

museum — imagine this — many

1:01:57

artists painted naked people. But Khabib

1:02:00

hates nudity, and he seems to think that

1:02:03

everywhere naked men and women

1:02:07

kiss, or are simply naked, that is

1:02:09

pornography.

1:02:11

And now, apparently making up to you

1:02:15

for not having shown enough naked

1:02:16

men and women, would you like me to show naked

1:02:18

men in a bathtub? Let’s look at naked

1:02:21

men in a bathtub. Let’s put them on the big

1:02:23

screen — yes, let’s put it on the

1:02:26

big screen, thank you very much.

1:02:28

A terrible photograph. Apparently Khabib should

1:02:31

be shocked, but he won’t be shocked because

1:02:33

he himself is in this photograph. I’m not

1:02:36

trying to tease or mock anyone

1:02:38

or anything like that. What are the men in

1:02:41

this photograph doing? Why are they packed so

1:02:43

tightly into this bathtub? Nothing, they’re not

1:02:46

doing anything, actually. I’m sure that

1:02:48

there is no hidden meaning in this story

1:02:50

and there is no story at all. People simply decided

1:02:52

to get into a bathtub and take a picture.

1:02:54

Do they have the right to do that?

1:02:57

They do. Does someone have the right to post their own

1:02:59

photograph? Yes, they do. Well then, dear

1:03:03

followers of Khabib, and dear Khabib

1:03:06

Nurmagomedov, someone also has the right to go

1:03:10

to a play.

1:03:13

It’s in an enclosed venue, marked 18+.

1:03:16

You cannot come there with children.

1:03:18

Adults come there, people who have

1:03:21

the same rights as you, and they want

1:03:23

to watch a play where people are far

1:03:26

more clothed than those in the bathtub

1:03:28

just now. Well, they kiss there — apparently it is

1:03:31

some kind of production about love, about

1:03:33

relationships, about human relationships. Well,

1:03:36

that’s just how it is: they are connected with the fact that people

1:03:38

argue, kiss, joke with one

1:03:41

another, flirt — that’s how this world works, and

1:03:43

it’s not clear why now, simply at the

1:03:48

first snap of the fingers, at the first

1:03:51

call, people say: now we’ll come and create

1:03:53

disorder in order to “restore order.”

1:03:55

Who is supposed to apologize? Is someone supposed to

1:03:57

run around and

1:04:00

just literally, really, actually run away

1:04:05

People are afraid to go there from Makhachkala (the capital of Dagestan, Russia).

1:04:08

Because, well, let's be honest, they are being told

1:04:11

they are essentially being threatened with violence: “We’ll come and use force,”

1:04:14

“and we’ll restore order ourselves, we’ll beat everyone up.” I,

1:04:17

by the way, am a big supporter of the idea

1:04:21

that religiously minded people should express

1:04:23

their concerns. Absolutely everyone has

1:04:26

the right to do so—there are liberals, there are conservatives,

1:04:29

there are atheists, there are people who are not religiously

1:04:31

inclined. Picket if you want, by all means.

1:04:35

File lawsuits—you absolutely have

1:04:39

every right to. If you don’t like it, take it to

1:04:42

court, you know, hold a picket line, protest,

1:04:44

boycott this theater, or this

1:04:47

venue, or, I don’t know, the director, in order to

1:04:50

ruin them financially—that’s a great idea. Call on all of

1:04:53

Makhachkala to stop going to this theater

1:04:56

because, in your view, there are bad people there, they are

1:04:58

full of what you consider pornography—that’s

1:05:00

a great idea.

1:05:01

You have every right to do that. This happens all

1:05:03

over the world.

1:05:04

In America, for example, there are conservative

1:05:06

communities that go around

1:05:08

boycotting concerts, picketing

1:05:10

them. Madonna’s concerts were boycotted and picketed

1:05:15

for many years by various

1:05:18

people and different groups. Outside virtually every

1:05:21

medical clinic in the United States where

1:05:25

abortions are performed, there is a weekend picket

1:05:28

by abortion opponents—religious

1:05:30

and conservative people. They don’t like it, and they

1:05:32

have every right to speak out against

1:05:34

it, just as Khabib has every right

1:05:37

to raise his voice there, so to speak. Well,

1:05:39

if he believes that people shouldn’t undress and

1:05:42

that everyone should be covered from head to

1:05:44

toe,

1:05:44

he has the right to say that if that’s what he believes in.

1:05:46

But calling for violence—what

1:05:51

is happening now, the way it is

1:05:53

happening like this—

1:05:55

in Dagestan, well, that is Islamist

1:05:58

fundamentalism.

1:05:59

And sooner or later it will lead to violence,

1:06:02

because someone writes a

1:06:04

tweet or an Instagram post, and then

1:06:07

tomorrow some

1:06:08

person who has gone off the rails over it will come running

1:06:11

onto a beach and stab someone, or shoot them,

1:06:14

or attack a woman because

1:06:16

she is showing that her shoulder isn’t sufficiently

1:06:19

covered. This is exactly what whips these fanatics up.

1:06:24

In the previous program, I spoke a lot about

1:06:26

how all these monstrous

1:06:30

conflicts, including those in Moscow,

1:06:32

happen because

1:06:35

Chechen and Azerbaijani communities, among others,

1:06:37

argue with each other, and they happen because

1:06:39

everyone is endlessly offended, damn it,

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and everyone endlessly starts writing

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on Instagram about how they are so

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offended that everyone must

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apologize to them, that you must ask

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for forgiveness, or else we’ll come and

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restore order ourselves.

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That should not be happening. I would like

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Khabib Nurmagomedov, being a very

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authoritative figure in Dagestan and in the

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Caucasus in general, to say, for example, that the house

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in Kabardino-Balkaria (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus) that

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Kaitov built after getting out of

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prison, having served less than ten years for

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seven murders—that is the real obscenity.

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It’s outrageous that things are arranged so that ordinary people

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get 12,000 rubles a month while management

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steals billions. If people were writing in his

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comments, “Yes, yes, that’s right,”

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“we’ll come out and restore order ourselves if

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the authorities, the prosecutor’s office, the FSB (Russia’s security service), or anyone else doesn’t

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start putting things right”—that would be

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great. But threatening some

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poor actors who came

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simply to perform for the people who bought tickets,

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to show, I don’t know, how they walk around there

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or take their shirts off,

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that, it seems to me, is not cool, and it is not

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it’s not cool, bro. All of this really

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is not cool. But getting outraged about watches—

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that’s cool. Asking how, exactly,

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while earning a salary of 74,000 rubles,

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the head of Karachay-Cherkessia (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus) buys

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himself watches worth several million rubles

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—several of them. Let’s talk about that.

1:08:22

Let’s put up a great post on

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Instagram—it would get a huge

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number of likes. But for some reason that doesn’t

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happen, and that would be great.

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The last thing I want to say: I saw

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this news today, and it hit me. I

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hope it hits you too, because, well,

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because one of Russia’s most legendary

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nature reserves, Kronotsky Nature Reserve,

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they want to devour it, bears and all.

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Those of you who just thought

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and said, “What reserve? We don’t know

1:08:53

that one,” I assure you, you do know it.

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Because if you’ve seen cool,

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funny, amazing—whatever kind of—

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photos of bears catching

1:09:04

fish and doing all sorts of funny and amazing

1:09:09

things—those Kamchatka bears, all of that

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comes from there. It is the staff of that very

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legendary and unique Kronotsky

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Nature Reserve who take those photos, and right now

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what is happening there is simply a real

1:09:21

outrage.

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Because certain wheeler-dealers have decided

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to start industrial fish farming there, and for

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that they simply need to

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crush the reserve’s management, because

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of course they are against it—they are scientists, not

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businessmen. They say that if you start

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industrial fish breeding here

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and making money from it, then you will

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destroy the reserve. Let’s

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Let's leave it alone—it's a nature reserve.

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You can't breed commercial sockeye salmon there, or whatever it is

1:09:52

they want to farm there. You can

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go to the reserve's website, to its social media pages,

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and read about it—it's all explained there in great detail.

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So what do people do when they

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want to make money? They don't care about

1:10:03

the uniqueness of the reserve or the beautiful,

1:10:05

amazing bears that you and I

1:10:07

watch now—but our children, or our grandchildren,

1:10:10

may never see them except in

1:10:11

photographs—old photographs.

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There won't be any new ones.

1:10:16

Naturally, in their usual manner, they

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had Darya Panicheva, the head

1:10:23

of the scientific department of this reserve,

1:10:25

arrested and fabricated charges against her,

1:10:27

some kind of embezzlement charges. All

1:10:29

the reserve's staff, with one voice,

1:10:31

say that these charges are completely fabricated.

1:10:34

Look at what they're doing to her.

1:10:36

Here, let me show you a piece of the map. You

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see where the reserve is located, right? In

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Kamchatka, and you see where the city of Khabarovsk is.

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So they arrested her there and transferred her

1:10:49

to a pre-trial detention center (SIZO) in Khabarovsk. I mean,

1:10:50

just imagine the sheer span of Russia and

1:10:53

the fantastical distance involved.

1:10:55

This is a woman who isn't accused of

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killing anyone, or of a violent

1:11:00

crime, or anything like that. She's

1:11:02

been charged with embezzlement, and they

1:11:05

shouldn't have arrested her at all.

1:11:06

But they specifically want to break her—and everyone else—

1:11:09

to intimidate them. And so, she has

1:11:11

a minor child, and visiting her

1:11:13

out in the middle of nowhere is practically impossible.

1:11:17

You have to fly via Moscow from

1:11:18

Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky to Khabarovsk, and

1:11:21

they didn't even keep her somewhere locally, in the local police system.

1:11:23

They didn't even hold her there, or in

1:11:25

Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky—of course there is

1:11:26

a SIZO in Kamchatka.

1:11:29

They deliberately dragged her to Khabarovsk in order

1:11:31

to send exactly this message to all of you:

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we can crush you. Scientists, don't get smart.

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We're going to farm fish here and

1:11:37

make money off it. I urge

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everyone simply to go

1:11:43

to this reserve's Facebook page and read

1:11:45

about what's happening, support these

1:11:46

people, spread this information, and also

1:11:49

defend this woman, Darya Panicheva,

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because, well, they're devouring people, and the reserve

1:11:56

is devouring our bears too.

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They're devouring everything in the Beautiful Russia of the Future (an ironic political slogan).

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We need bears, and we will love them very much,

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because they will stop being

1:12:05

symbols of the United Russia party,

1:12:08

because there won't be any United Russia party left.

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See you next Thursday. Bye.

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