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Good evening. It’s 8:00 p.m. in Moscow, which

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means we’re live with the program

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*Russia of the Future*, and I’m Alexei Navalny

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— or “Alexei, who steals grants,” as

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the media in Novgorod Region called me this week

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.

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They got offended, along with their

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governor, because we supported

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the medical workers’ strike there — and we supported it

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gladly, because

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the medical workers won. I’ll say a little more about that

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during the broadcast. Let me remind you that you

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can ask me questions using the hashtag

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#RussiaOfTheFuture. Post them on Twitter; they’ll

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put the questions on screen, and I’ll

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answer them without any censorship, without

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any special selection of those

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questions. You can ask

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me anything. I’ll start with the fact that

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today was an awesome, amazing day.

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It’s always an amazing day when you’re

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surrounded by a lot of people

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who are on the same wavelength as you. And I

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spent today with exactly those kinds of people

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— today and yesterday. Yesterday we had a kind of

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working meeting, and today we

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re-established our party, Russia of the Future,

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for the ninth time. Guys, for the ninth time, I

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held a founding congress for the party.

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We had people there from 56

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regions — real, live people. I think

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no one has the slightest doubt

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that we have a large, active

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regional structure, that we have

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more than 500 supporters, which is what’s required

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under the law on political parties. But

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even so, our party is not being registered. For

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eight times in a row we were denied; now for the ninth

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time we’re submitting this application, and

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that’s great. We’ll keep doing it. We are

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completely confident in ourselves. We understand

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why they won’t register us: because we would

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wipe out United Russia. I mean

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not just us, our party — all of us together,

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you and me, all the viewers of this program — we

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would simply crush them. And, well, essentially

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that’s what the Kremlin is afraid of. As a kind of

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reproach, people often tell me, “Well, you’re

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wasting your time on nonsense with this party.

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You should be doing other things. It’s obvious

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they’re not going to register it.” First of all,

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the situation can change. Second,

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the fact that we’re trying to register a party does not

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mean that we aren’t doing other things —

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fighting corruption, or

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holding rallies, or anything else. We have a

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multi-track strategy, as always.

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We do a lot of things, and we keep adding

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new projects — new directions, whether it’s

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trade unions or Smart Voting — but

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we never abandon the old ones. If we’ve

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decided and said that we would seek

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party registration, then we do it. And

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huge thanks to all the great people

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who support our party

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and came to the congress today. It was really

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wonderful and great.

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There are two extremely gratifying things I want

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to mention. Gratifying, because I don’t like

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United Russia, I don’t like Putin, I don’t like

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Medvedev, I don’t like Sobyanin,

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and it gives me great satisfaction when the fight against them

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becomes very concrete and very

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specific — real political struggle

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in real elections. In our

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political system, which is generally so constrained,

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what can we do? We can hold rallies,

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we can, here and there, on

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the air, criticize them, we can release videos,

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but from time to time we can

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enter into direct confrontation with them in

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elections. I’m always in favor of that kind of confrontation.

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I did it myself in the mayoral election; I did

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it in the presidential election, where I

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wasn’t allowed to run. But still, you have to admit,

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there was a confrontation there. And in September there will be

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elections in several regions,

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including Moscow.

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And today Lyubov Sobol announced her candidacy.

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You all know her very well. She is

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one of the longest-serving employees of the Anti-Corruption

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Foundation, and I’ve known Lyuba for many years. She’s

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excellent.

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She has an excellent background: she graduated from the law faculty

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of Moscow State University

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with honors. And with that degree with honors,

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she didn’t go work for some corporation — she

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came to the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation). Back then, there was no big team; she

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joined RosPil (Navalny’s anti-corruption procurement project). She

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investigated corruption in public procurement.

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She’s a superb candidate, and she is running

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in the city center — that’s Arbat,

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Khamovniki, and Presnya. And not only those

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residents, but all Muscovites in general

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— and really the whole country — if, if we

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manage to get her elected there as a deputy,

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she’ll be a great deputy, because Moscow

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is always a national-level story. Let’s watch

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a short clip.

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Let’s watch a bit of Lyubov’s video, where she once again

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in her trademark voice tells

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us that she is running in the election. This is

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Lyubov Sobol: “In September, Moscow will hold

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elections to the Moscow City Duma.

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And I’ve decided to take part in them, in District 43.

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That includes the Arbat, Presnensky,

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and Khamovniki districts. I decided to run because

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I want to stand against corruption and

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the lies of the current authorities. At the Anti-Corruption

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Foundation, that’s what I do, but elections are

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an opportunity to make our voice sound

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louder, and I want to use that

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opportunity. Today we launched a website for

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preliminary contact collection for those who

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live in District 43 and are ready to support me

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in the election. The link to the site is on the screen

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and in the description. I understand that collecting

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Collecting signatures, and the campaign itself, will be very

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difficult.

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But I’m ready to do it. I want to say

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to Sobyanin and the other United Russia members everything

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that I, and thousands of Muscovites, think. That’s why I’m

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running for the Moscow City Duma and asking

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for your support.

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You’ve seen the link — go there and sign up.

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Why am I so excited

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and spending so much time on this? In the previous

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program I talked about Mylov; now I’m

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genuinely speaking with enthusiasm about Sobol.

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Because politics is always

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a confrontation between specific people, and it’s

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great when there’s a candidate about whom

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we know that she isn’t afraid.

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They injected her husband with some kind of

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substance — they ambushed him outside his building,

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gave him a shot in the leg, and he blacked out. We

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understand that this is being done by Prigozhin, the

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so-called “Putin’s chef.” Sobol has been investigating his

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activities for many years. Now she has

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organized a class-action lawsuit for

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the parents of the children who were

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poisoned by rotten food supplied by this

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same “Putin’s chef.” She’s going to wage

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a real battle, and of course that

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makes me happy. And I know for sure that

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at least one election

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campaign, I know for sure, is going to be uncomfortable

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for them. There’s also Sobol, so that makes two

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election campaigns where there will be

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a genuinely brave, not cowardly,

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candidate who will tell

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the blunt truth and will truly

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fight. And that’s just great,

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you have to admit — even watching it is great.

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I’m simply calling on everyone

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to take part in all of this. Those who live in the

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district should, of course, give their signatures.

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Those who don’t live in the district should just follow it,

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I don’t know, repost information,

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support them, chip in some money. That same

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Sobol — just look at how interesting things are

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with the lawsuit she initiated.

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Already now she has

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forced Prigozhin to pay 300,000 rubles

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to those parents whose children

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were harmed, if they agree to withdraw

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their lawsuit. In other words, she

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organized a collective court complaint, and

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now they’re going around to all these parents

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and saying: we’re offering you, from Concord,

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300,000 rubles if you withdraw the lawsuit. Like,

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of course we didn’t poison your children, but if

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you’re willing to drop it, we’ll pay you

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300,000 rubles. You can look at her Twitter;

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all the documents confirming this are there.

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What’s more, now they’re already

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offering 5 million rubles to break up

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this lawsuit. They approached one of the parents

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and said that if you make it so that everyone

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pulls out,

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we’ll pay you 5 million rubles.

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But it’s great when politicians do

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things like this. He thought he was

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very cool, all-powerful — this “Putin’s chef”.

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Everyone knows him; he has contracts worth 139

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billion rubles.

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Today, Proekt (an independent Russian media outlet) published a great

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investigation about this crook. They

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analyzed not only his Moscow

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contracts for supplying food products

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to social institutions,

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but across the country as a whole, and

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found that it’s the same story everywhere.

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Everywhere, it’s the same: here they found

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polyethylene, there worms, here some kind of

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spoiled products.

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This is in Leningrad Region,

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Kaliningrad, Pyatigorsk, Tver — in other words, he

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supplies low-quality products across the entire country

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and has received 139

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billion rubles from the state,

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from us, from you and me. And he thought he was

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really tough, super-mega tough. Then along comes

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some Sobol, and she starts genuinely

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kicking this man around so hard

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that he’s forced to go around trying

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to bribe people, paying them 300,000

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rubles. Isn’t that great? It is. So

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let’s follow these amazing

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adventures

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of Sobol, Prigozhin, and Sobyanin, and everyone

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else.

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And especially — by the way, I

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read something this week,

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a very minor news item, but I happened to see it on

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Facebook and thought I should tell you about it

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as an example of just how far, how utterly far,

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these authorities have descended into absurdity.

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So, Sobyanin — you know that he is actively pushing his

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renovation program, and as part of it

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they spend enormous

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amounts of money on PR, feeding us a stream

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of lies about how wonderfully the renovation is going.

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And I saw that on social media people noticed

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and started discussing how Sobyanin

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came to a housewarming party for the Merzlyakov family,

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or the Kurochkins, somewhere on Shchyolkovskoye Highway.

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So Sergey Sobyanin arrived, and

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in the traditions of the Soviet Union, they

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show us: oh, an ordinary family, and to them

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comes the mayor. They open the door: hello,

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Sergey Semyonovich, we weren’t expecting you. He

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says: hello, Kurochkins. And they

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lead him inside and say: thank you, Sergey

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Semyonovich.

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Look what a wonderful apartment this is.

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A two-room apartment.

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Here we have linoleum, and here

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parquet. Would you like some tea, Sergey...

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we’ll make you some tea right away. Come in.

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And they show us all this sickly-sweet garbage,

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what a great guy he is, what a

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wonderful, improved Moscow — and people noticed

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it.

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But strangely enough, in quite a lot of detail...

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They show an apartment with lots and lots of

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rooms, supposedly for a big family, like this.

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An expensive kitchen.

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But there’s no washing machine, and then

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they show that the kitchen is arranged in such a

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way that there’s a microwave with curtains hanging

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over it, so those curtains would catch fire if someone

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used the microwave. And there are other

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small details that show this is

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not a real apartment.

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They really filmed it in a showroom. They either

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set up some kind of separate apartment, well,

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or they had just specially furnished

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an empty, nonexistent apartment where no one

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named Kurochkin lives. And I don’t know, maybe

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some Kurochkins do physically

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exist, but maybe their surname isn’t, I don’t know,

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Kurochkin or Vasichkin — but I mean, it’s a complete

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absolute fake.

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Good Lord. With a city budget — a budget

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of 2.5 trillion rubles (about tens of billions of U.S. dollars) —

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you still don’t have any real Kurochkins, their

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real apartment? Let their apartment

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be less beautiful, maybe a bit

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run-down — like a real apartment belonging to

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real people. But no, damn it, they’ve taken

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their lying to such a point, they’ve reached

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such a level that you can’t even call it perfected —

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there’s no imperfection left. My team

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exposed it instantly. It’s just

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the degree of contempt they have for us is such

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that their PR people say: come on, give us some Kurochkins,

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let’s just grab

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some people, drag them into a showroom or some

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apartment, and film an ideal tea party there

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in an ideal apartment. And that’s what they did.

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Well, they need to be hit back for this, they need

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to be hit back — Sobyanin and all these scumbags and crooks,

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the United Russia members sitting there in the Moscow City Duma

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need to be shown: no, enough already,

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stop doing this crap. For that we need

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people like Sobol and Melkova.

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I hope other candidates will appear too.

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For that, we need

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Smart Voting. Register right

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now. If you live in Moscow, in Moscow or in

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St. Petersburg, or in any region,

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register right now, because

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we have to knock United Russia out, and in order

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to knock them out, the only

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way is to vote

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in a consolidated way. When everyone goes off in different directions,

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you vote for yourself, you

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vote for some other nice

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candidate — we all together must

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vote for one person, and then we’ll

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pick off the United Russia candidates. That’s the only

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way this works. Now I’m being asked here

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a question.

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Fini Kulise Nicula — I see a user with

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that name — asks: why so many party congresses when

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there’s already a lawsuit? Meaning, why do you

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keep holding congress after congress when

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you can appeal to the European Court?

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But we have appealed to the European Court many

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times. But the European Court takes years

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to deliberate. Just because the name

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Navalny appears in the complaint doesn’t mean

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the European Court will consider

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our complaint any faster.

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There will be a decision, and we have no doubt that

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it will be in our favor, because this is

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absolutely blatant lawlessness. But we don’t

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know how many years it will take, and we

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still keep declaring, time and again, that

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we have the right

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to register our party.

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Sergey Kapitonov asks:

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Could they arbitrarily refuse to register

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Lyubov Sobol? What do we do then? They absolutely could

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refuse to register Lyubov Sobol arbitrarily, but

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what’s more, I don’t want to demotivate anyone,

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including Lyubov Sobol.

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I think that outcome is likely,

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because they’re afraid of fair

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elections in this district. But I hope that

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the residents of this district will understand that this is

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the best option for them, and they will support

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Sobol.

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Does Sobyanin want someone in the Moscow City

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Duma sitting there who

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will go for his throat over those same

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food supply contracts? Notice that

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for several months now, Sobyanin has

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basically been getting dragged by Sobol, and he

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stays silent.

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He hasn’t said a word. He only said something like,

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“I’m taking the situation under personal control,” but he

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says nothing about the supply contracts

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for food, because it’s a scheme, because

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it involves billions of rubles, and Sobyanin is

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benefiting from it too.

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Does he want Sobol

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to win the election? Of course not. So

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will they try to keep her

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off the ballot? Of course they will make such an

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attempt. But our task is to fight back, and our

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task is to defend our candidate.

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In any case, the task right now is

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to collect a huge number of signatures,

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and launch a powerful election campaign.

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Well,

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if there’s a refusal to register or something else,

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then we’ll make a separate decision. I

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think that, of course,

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all of Sobyanin’s and United Russia’s hopes for the

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Moscow City Duma elections are tied to the fact that, first,

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they will falsify the results. For that they invented

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online voting,

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which is completely beyond public oversight. And

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second, they will try not to

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register candidates, because they’re

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simply afraid of them. But in any case, we

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must carry out our threat and

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nominate strong candidates, and where we don’t

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have strong candidates, support

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through Smart Voting, well, simply

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opposition candidates, even if they’re not quite as strong.

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cool

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like Sobol, but at least we

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know they’re not United Russia members. Well then,

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let’s talk about

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arrests. Of course, the main news this

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week is that this one was jailed, that one

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was detained — it’s enough to make your eyes dart around.

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There’s so much to discuss, and it’s just

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so satisfying that they’re devouring each other, and not

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a single one of them deserves even a drop of pity, because

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we understood they would start eating each

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other alive. We told them: you bunch of

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crooks, you think you’ll always

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live like this — we’ll be the ones getting jailed,

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while you keep making money, because

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the system supposedly protects you from us.

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But the grass under your feet is running out.

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Autumn has come, the economy has fallen, and

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the easy pickings are drying up, the feeding base

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is shrinking, and the guys have started eating each

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other, and that’s wonderful. Let them eat each other. Let’s

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start from the other end. The latest

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arrest is Ishaev — that is, Ishaev and

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Abyzov are two symbolic cases that

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have happened. Let’s start with him, the former

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governor of Khabarovsk Krai.

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If you live in Moscow or St. Petersburg, in

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the European part of Russia, the surname may

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ring a bell — like, sure, we’ve heard it

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before, but who the hell knows where

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it’s from — somewhere way out in the Far East.

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But if you live not only in

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Khabarovsk Krai but in the Russian Far East

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in general, then you know that

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Ishaev is like Luzhkov in Moscow (Yury Luzhkov, former longtime mayor of Moscow).

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If they arrested Luzhkov tomorrow,

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it would mean roughly the same thing for

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the entire Far East, because

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Ishaev is that kind of monster who sat there since

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1991 — Yeltsin appointed him back then.

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He’s just a completely thieving face,

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the kind of guy who ran everything — basically a gangster and

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a murderer, I’d say — who did whatever

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he wanted. His son seems to be just the same.

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Reports say he was detained too. It’s that kind of

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brazen family of entitled rich kids.

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Some time ago, his grandson committed

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let’s take a look — the grandson looks very

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colorful, what a stylish little dude.

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He caused a traffic accident.

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The victim in that crash suffered serious

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injuries. That’s Ishaev’s grandson right there,

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a street racer type, naturally.

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Of course, he got away with it. The criminal case

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was closed because they supposedly

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reconciled with the victim — meaning they simply

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paid the victim off.

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Obviously, they used administrative leverage

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to pressure the police. So this is the kind of

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family that did whatever it wanted.

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But what kind of clout, for example, in Moscow — in

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Khabarovsk Krai?

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After all, Ishaev had been in power since ’91.

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He has some substantial

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support base. So why was he arrested?

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There’s the official version, and there’s the real

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version. I don’t really doubt that

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the real version — and I’ll say this too — is

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true.

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Because, among other things,

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the official version sounds genuinely

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ridiculous. In the latest news, at first they said

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it was about timber or something, that he

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stole wood — like, he stole timber.

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But that’s not actually what the criminal case is about.

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It was stated that the injured party in the case was

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the company Rosneft, and this

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Ishaev, after he was removed from the post of

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governor, was made presidential envoy, and

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later became a vice president of Rosneft, and

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he leased out, for the company’s representative office,

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a building in Khabarovsk to Rosneft that

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belongs to him through some

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intermediaries. And this building has an area of, you won’t

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believe it, 284 square meters.

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I mean, come on, you have to admit that’s genuinely funny.

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The guy was stealing for years

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and years, by the millions and millions, and now they’re

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charging him with leasing something out at an inflated

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price.

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Some ridiculous, pathetic office somewhere

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in Khabarovsk.

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I saw some angry posts from some

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Kremlin guys: Ishaev leased out

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a building in Khabarovsk

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at the price of a Moscow building — my God,

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what a shocking crime. Well, of course, that’s

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complete nonsense. Sobyanin lays paving tiles in Moscow

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at four times the price, spending

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billions on it. Rosneft buys things

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at roughly four times the price — so what building are we even talking about?

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So why was he arrested?

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Ishaev was arrested for the elections, because the governor

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matters, he has some kind of

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authority and still possesses

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major levers of influence in Khabarovsk Krai, and

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you remember that in the last election there was

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a conflict between United Russia and not-United Russia,

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and Khabarovsk Krai was one of

21:11

the regions where the United Russia candidate,

21:14

nicknamed Horseshoe — surname Shport — lost badly,

21:17

in a landslide. And here you see Ishaev and Shport

21:20

in this photo. And, as usual, all these

21:23

regional crooks and bosses often

21:25

pull this kind of stunt: there was a setup where

21:27

Ishaev is a United Russia man, he sort of

21:30

seemed to support the United Russia candidate Shport,

21:32

but in reality he supported the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia)

21:36

candidate Furgal, who in the end

21:39

won. Everyone knew it then, and everyone knows it now.

21:43

And in Khabarovsk Krai everyone knows it, not just

21:46

some grand political strategists,

21:48

just ordinary people. And what we’re seeing now

21:51

is a kind of public flogging.

21:55

They’re arresting him, and apparently the investigators

21:59

— I heard — are coming forward with a proposal for

22:01

house arrest, which also seems to me

22:03

to confirm this — it supports this

22:04

the version

22:05

if they had really wanted to either

22:07

jail him to boost Putin's ratings, or

22:11

for some other reason, they would at least have

22:13

gone after him properly. It would've looked angry, brutal. But here they're simply

22:16

showing all the other governors

22:19

a straightforward public flogging: oh, so you didn't

22:23

support our United Russia candidate, you were playing

22:25

some kind of political game, well then

22:28

sit in jail for a while.

22:29

So sit there. You'll be pushed away from

22:32

the feeding trough. You thought you were some heavyweight

22:34

and basically untouchable? No such thing.

22:37

No one is untouchable — you have to back our people.

22:40

Why? Again, because Smart Voting

22:42

works. I mean, before,

22:44

it wouldn't even have occurred to someone like him

22:47

to think of it

22:47

to pull off this combination — to somewhat

22:49

support this one

22:51

but in reality somewhat support

22:52

that one, because with United Russia, Putin

22:55

and everyone else used to get, bang, 60 percent right away

22:57

automatically. But now, no — now it's the opposite: if

23:01

you're not from United Russia,

23:03

bang, people will hand you 34 percent right away

23:05

because they don't want to support United

23:07

Russia. That's why Smart Voting

23:09

is working now, and all these kinds of things

23:11

are working, and the Kremlin is very afraid

23:15

that the elite will start, start playing

23:19

this kind of double game.

23:20

Anton, I see people are asking me: Alexei,

23:23

why are Abyzov's own people putting him in jail? Let's

23:26

talk about our

23:28

Mishanya Abyzov. This really is a very

23:33

interesting thing, a symbolic thing.

23:36

How does a man who was minister for Open

23:39

Government, a close associate

23:42

of Dmitry Medvedev — don't forget, Abyzov

23:48

headed Dmitry

23:52

Medvedev's council of supporters. You're probably laughing now

23:53

because, in principle, something like

23:56

Dmitry Medvedev's council of supporters

23:58

— or Dmitry Medvedev supporters בכלל — is

24:01

very strange and funny. But that's how it seems now

24:05

after our film *He Is Not Dimon to You*

24:06

(*Он вам не Димон*, an anti-corruption documentary). But in 2011 — or rather, in

24:09

2010, when Medvedev was still

24:11

president — he thought he was quite

24:14

a big deal, and he had this council of supporters, and

24:16

Abyzov was one of his closest

24:19

guys.

24:22

And now something very funny happened: as soon as

24:24

he was arrested and people started paying

24:26

a lot of attention to it, Medvedev — who has

24:28

a VKontakte account — removed him from his friends list

24:32

within an hour. I mean, really —

24:37

good Lord, what petty people. But

24:41

he headed your council of supporters. You

24:45

came up together with some kind of

24:46

idiotic Open

24:48

Government project and ran around with this Open

24:50

Government thing. A lot of people probably don't

24:52

remember, but there were meetings with bloggers

24:54

and all sorts of gimmicks — all this 'open'

24:56

government stuff.

24:57

Medvedev really loved it; it was his thing.

24:59

He was all about openness,

25:01

about open data, and they were all running around there

25:04

together. He could at least have waited a little — I mean,

25:07

why throw him out of your friends list within an hour?

25:10

Why did his own people devour him?

25:15

Well, basically,

25:17

the question we need to answer right away

25:20

is this: should we feel sorry for

25:23

Abyzov, who at first was super-cool

25:26

and now has fallen to just 'Mishanya'? If you've seen

25:30

the coverage of him in court and in the tabloids, they

25:34

actually describe a fairly

25:36

disgusting phenomenon, when journalists

25:38

under the guise of public monitoring commission members

25:40

slip in there with a camera, and the next

25:43

day headlines come out saying, 'Abyzov gave

25:45

his first interview from detention.'

25:47

But anyway, they went in to see him,

25:50

and he

25:51

while talking there with

25:54

them, was mumbling something half-asleep — he'd been

25:57

interrogated all night, and the guys with the

25:59

camera were saying, 'Come on, Mishanya,

26:00

stand up and answer the people.' And so, from

26:02

being Medvedev's super-cool friend, Misha

26:05

Abyzov came crashing down. So the question is:

26:07

should we pity him? Well, look, he doesn't

26:10

really look like such a horrible

26:12

nasty stereotypical official — not like Sechin

26:15

or Ishayev. He seems more like

26:16

an unshaven, likable

26:19

and fairly easygoing person.

26:22

I spoke with him once on the phone

26:25

or maybe even twice. He's probably the only

26:27

minister, the only high-ranking official

26:28

I ever talked to when we

26:30

submitted our initiative on combating

26:34

illicit enrichment to that very

26:36

Open Government.

26:37

The phone rang, and they said: it's Abyzov himself,

26:40

the real Abyzov, not a prankster. We actually

26:42

spoke quite politely, but he said

26:45

— well, he didn't explain why our bill was bad;

26:47

I explained to him why our

26:49

bill was good. He didn't understand anything.

26:51

I mean, he was basically playing at

26:53

this kind of democracy. Should we

26:56

feel sorry for our Mishanya? No, we shouldn't. I don't

26:59

feel sorry for any of them, and especially not for him, because

27:03

I want everyone to understand very clearly:

27:05

understand this.

27:06

Abyzov is a terrible thief and a corrupt official.

27:10

I mean, the guy literally stole everything.

27:13

Absolutely everything — anything that was lying around,

27:17

anything that wasn't nailed down, and even things that were.

27:19

He worked at RAO UES (Russia's former state electricity monopoly), and even by RAO UES standards

27:22

— and that was basically a thieves' outfit

27:25

under the leadership of the thief Chubais — even there

27:28

he was considered completely lawless. But

27:30

as a matter of fact, what they've jailed him for now is

27:33

What I described back in 2017 may

27:37

be something some of you remember.

27:38

At the time, there was a huge

27:41

scandal in Novosibirsk: utility and housing service rates were sharply increased.

27:44

They went up dramatically, and a rally was being prepared there.

27:47

It was being organized by

27:49

my colleague sitting next to me, Sergei Boyko, and I

27:52

came to that rally and spoke there, and in order

27:54

to help the people of Novosibirsk, we

27:57

did a small investigation and showed

27:58

Abyzov's real estate in Italy.

28:01

Back then,

28:01

he had an unfinished building there, and I

28:05

briefly described what the scheme consisted of.

28:09

Abyzov being summoned to court in Siberia—let's

28:13

remember.

28:14

A one-minute flashback to 2017, where I

28:19

talk about what is now being

28:21

presented to us by the Investigative Committee

28:22

as some kind of major revelation: Abyzov—

28:25

the Italian estate of a minister

28:28

in the government of the Russian Federation

28:29

—Mikhail Abyzov, the very man

28:33

who owned the entire energy sector

28:36

of the Novosibirsk Region, and now there is

28:38

an energy monopolist there, Sibeco,

28:40

which, broadly speaking, is the one raising

28:42

the rates. This monopolist is part of

28:45

Abyzov's holding through a chain of companies.

28:48

Through these

28:49

Abyzov-linked Novosibirsk energy companies,

28:51

you can trace a direct chain to the offshore structure

28:55

that owns the Italian estate.

28:57

We are looking at a plot with an area of 346,000 square meters

29:00

and an estimated value of about

29:02

750 million rubles.

29:04

The houses range in size from 200 to 630

29:08

square meters. Next we see

29:09

a tennis court.

29:11

We go around it, and immediately we are

29:13

greeted by a private golf course,

29:16

and behind it, vineyards. Right there

29:18

there is a fountain, and here is another one a little

29:21

farther away, right in the middle of the area in front of

29:23

Abyzov's houses. Slightly to the right, we can see

29:27

a huge covered garage

29:28

for about 15 cars. And of course, what kind of

29:32

estate would it be without its own

29:34

artificial pond?

29:38

I don't know what the FSB (Federal Security Service) and

29:41

the Investigative Committee were investigating there, but everyone knew this.

29:45

And it is confirmed by documents. We

29:47

knew it, and we told you about it two years

29:49

earlier. The entire energy sector of the Novosibirsk

29:53

Region—a huge chunk of the energy industry—

29:55

belonged to Abyzov, and he acquired it

29:58

through corrupt schemes, tariffs, and so on.

30:01

Everything worked for him. He simply

30:03

siphoned money from everyone, and of course he had

30:07

a scheme for moving that money abroad,

30:09

and he moved it out. And now, suddenly,

30:12

we are being told

30:15

by men in blue peaked caps, "You know,

30:18

it turns out Abyzov owned the entire

30:21

Siberian energy sector, received money from

30:24

inflated tariffs, sold something there

30:26

to the state, and moved the money abroad."

30:29

Abroad.

30:30

Really? And we, supposedly, had never

30:34

talked about this before? Even though this

30:36

Italian estate was registered to

30:39

the very same offshore entities that owned

30:41

the energy assets. And now

30:42

Abyzov

30:44

is being arrested and dragged off to prison.

30:48

Actually, what is really interesting is how he

30:53

became a rich man. He was

30:56

one of the young billionaires, and in

30:59

the Russian Forbes list they didn't much like

31:01

writing about him, because he was that type of figure:

31:03

pleasant on the surface, and at the same time close to Putin, because

31:06

he seemed relatively young,

31:08

and all our so-called liberal

31:10

intelligentsia—really pseudo-liberal—

31:12

that super-mercenary glamorous crowd—

31:15

absolutely adored Abyzov. How did this man

31:18

make his money? I'll explain briefly

31:20

once again, so that no one

31:22

is under any illusions or feels sorry for him, because

31:25

already a whole flock of various

31:27

charitable foundations are ready to post

31:30

bail guarantees for Abyzov, and Anatoly

31:33

Chubais and so on and so forth are involved. Don't

31:36

feel sorry for these people. How did he become rich? Well,

31:41

there was the gigantic energy system

31:43

of the former Soviet Union, in Russia, and it

31:48

was reformed by Chubais, who created for this purpose

31:52

the Russian Joint-Stock Company of the Unified

31:54

Energy System. And there was a separate piece

31:58

called Novosibirskenergo. It did not

32:00

fully belong to RAO UES because it

32:02

was large, very valuable, and very important.

32:05

And a large block of shares there belonged

32:07

to the local authorities, the government

32:09

of the Novosibirsk Region, and together with Abyzov they

32:11

set up a very simple scheme. Abyzov was

32:14

a local crook who handed out all sorts of

32:16

bribes to everyone. They created

32:18

artificial debt: he supposedly supplied

32:21

something to certain enterprises

32:24

in the Novosibirsk Region.

32:26

They failed to pay once, and then said,

32:28

"We can't settle with you,

32:30

so let's give you shares in

32:32

Novosibirskenergo instead." And they did. And that is how

32:34

he became the owner of all of it.

32:36

After that, he went to work for Chubais.

32:40

Anatoly Borisovich (a formal Russian first name and patronymic). And now one

32:42

of the unpleasant things is that everyone is

32:44

discussing Abyzov, but if we need

32:48

to find the person without whom Abyzov

32:51

could not have carried out these schemes and

32:53

stolen billions,

32:55

then if we want to find that person,

32:57

we need to look at photographs

33:01

from that same Italian villa. Who is standing there?

33:03

What people are there at that

33:06

villa? Well, the very same beloved...

33:09

Anatoly Borisovich

33:11

together with his wife in Tuscany at

33:14

Abyzov's villa, they are holding glasses of

33:17

champagne and discussing something. This,

33:20

this is exactly that organized

33:22

criminal group that stole everything. So,

33:24

when Abyzov had already started working under

33:27

Chubais at RAO UES (Russia’s former state electricity monopoly), as his deputy. About

33:30

this, Nilov wrote in detail in an article

33:32

he published, but overall this is a well-known

33:34

story. Anyone working in

33:37

the energy sector will confirm it for you. Abyzov

33:39

was engaged in

33:42

privatizing service companies. That is,

33:45

say, there is generating capacity,

33:46

roughly speaking, there is a power plant, and there is

33:49

a company, or a part of this

33:52

power plant

33:53

that handles servicing, repairs things,

33:55

the workers there who fix things,

33:57

but they are needed all the time, because things keep breaking down.

33:59

It’s a huge enterprise, and they decided:

34:01

let’s privatize all of it, and then on the

34:03

free market, within the framework of

34:05

competition,

34:06

other companies will appear, and then

34:08

there will be outsourcing, and the price

34:11

for these services will go down. Great idea. Abyzov was

34:13

in charge of this, and he really did

34:16

privatize all these service

34:18

companies.

34:18

And then, six months later, it turned out that

34:21

oops, they had all ended up with him.

34:24

I’m not exaggerating here — that is exactly

34:27

what happened. There was a deputy chairman who

34:30

oversaw the privatization of service

34:32

companies, and somehow they all

34:35

ended up in his personal ownership.

34:38

Then, some time later, he

34:40

bankrupted them, but in fact his

34:41

billions came precisely from that.

34:45

He simply stole everything, and all these

34:50

people — let’s look at the list

34:53

of those who came there for him

34:57

to post surety for him: Arkady

35:00

Dvorkovich, Anatoly Chubais,

35:03

Natalya Timakova. Then the philanthropists

35:05

got involved as well: Ksenia Rappoport,

35:08

Nyuta Federmesser, Chulpan Khamatova.

35:11

For some reason, I have not seen these people

35:15

posting any

35:17

sureties for anyone more or less

35:19

decent. Though, in my view, Khamatova did for

35:22

Kirill Serebrennikov as well,

35:24

she also submitted a surety there.

35:26

But for the Bolotnaya defendants (participants in the 2012 protest case), or for

35:29

ordinary people who were unjustly

35:32

put on trial, they did not post surety. But for

35:35

this complete crook, they do — and then they look on with wide

35:41

eyes, with tears standing in their eyes.

35:44

This whole situation perfectly shows

35:48

the sadness and horror of modern

35:53

Russian charity — or rather,

35:55

of the big charitable foundations. There are

35:56

many wonderful, amazing people

36:00

working there, and of course they

36:02

do a lot of good. But overall, the essence

36:07

of Russian charity

36:08

has been that people like

36:10

Abyzov steal a billion, and then

36:13

allocate 7 million rubles to charity

36:15

(about $75,000 at recent exchange rates), and we are supposed to say, oh my God,

36:18

God bless him, thank you,

36:21

thank you so much, Misha,

36:24

you philanthropist — and then kiss this

36:27

Misha and say, what joy, what

36:29

happiness. No, guys, we need to look at

36:32

this differently.

36:33

We need to remember that he stole a billion,

36:36

and we would not need any charity

36:38

at all, and all these children would be treated for free

36:41

— these kids.

36:42

If these people did not steal and

36:45

loot so much. That is why I am talking about this

36:47

for so long and in such detail. I hope

36:50

that all these people — I mean, I have no

36:51

illusions about Dvorkovich, Chubais,

36:55

Timakova, and, Lord, Voloshin was there too,

36:58

posting surety for Abyzov — well,

37:01

it is completely pointless

37:03

to appeal to their conscience, and of course they are the same

37:05

as Abyzov — members of his criminal

37:07

group. But these philanthropists

37:09

— come on, guys, you should be ashamed. I

37:12

understand that over there in Italy, together with

37:14

him, you hang out and drink champagne from

37:18

crystal glasses, but you should be

37:20

ashamed.

37:21

To post surety for this

37:23

disgusting swindler and thief. And at this hearing

37:27

there was another absolutely astonishing

37:30

thing. When I read it,

37:33

I just cried. So, they were discussing

37:37

the issue of house arrest as a preventive measure. Well,

37:39

naturally, the investigators were saying something like

37:41

lock him up, and the lawyers were saying no, don’t lock him up,

37:44

let’s do house arrest — which is normal enough,

37:46

that is what defense lawyers are supposed to do.

37:49

But then this phrase was said:

37:52

you know, let’s place Abyzov under

37:54

house arrest, because he has

37:56

apartments in Moscow and a dacha in Barvikha (an elite suburb outside Moscow),

37:58

because — and this is a direct quote from

38:01

Mediazona’s live coverage — because

38:03

summer is approaching, it will be hot, and it would be

38:07

preferable for Mikhail Abyzov to spend the

38:11

summer

38:12

period at the dacha. I do not know what

38:16

happened in the courtroom at that moment. I hope

38:18

the judge simply burst out laughing, and

38:21

even Abyzov himself, I hope, laughed too.

38:23

And then I realized where I had actually

38:26

heard something almost word for word like this before. I mean, really,

38:29

what great people writers and

38:32

poets are, how perceptive and precise

38:35

they are in capturing things about Russia, because

38:38

this whole “well, let him be under arrest,”

38:41

“but at a dacha in Barvikha” — that is practically verbatim.

38:44

quoting a famous poem 12

38:48

seconds, you all know it: "There is no war, I will accept anything"

38:52

I will accept exile, hard labor, prison, but

38:57

preferably in July, and preferably in Crimea

39:02

yes, yes, that's exactly it, I will accept anything

39:05

exile, hard labor, prison, but preferably in

39:08

July, and preferably when it will be hot at the

39:10

dacha in Barvikha (an elite suburb near Moscow), simply amazing, simply

39:14

unbelievable. As for—I see

39:17

questions. Zak Saturday.

39:18

Why did Abyzov call Medvedev when he was being arrested?

39:21

Artyom Loshchin will ask me. Well, I don't know

39:23

whom exactly he called there, whether he did at all, but with that kind of

39:25

opportunity, whom else was he supposed to

39:26

call?

39:27

He headed the supporters' committee for

39:29

Medvedev.

39:30

I doubt it. When he was arrested—I've been

39:34

arrested many times, as you know—

39:36

you don't really manage to make many

39:38

calls. I think I myself would hardly have

39:41

been able to do it quickly, but I think that

39:43

of course he did turn to Medvedev

39:44

but it didn't help him. Why was he

39:46

jailed? There are many theories. It seems to me

39:48

that some of them are completely idiotic, such as

39:50

the idea that it was somehow meant to boost Putin's ratings

39:53

or that it was an attack on Chubais. More likely, not on

39:56

Chubais.

39:58

I think it was about a narrow circle—that Abyzov had been

40:00

servicing them financially for quite

40:02

a long time. I have a very simple explanation:

40:05

it's called redistribution. They are

40:09

simply dividing up among themselves what has already been stolen,

40:13

what has already been looted. As I said, the feeding

40:15

base is shrinking. I often talk about

40:17

how everything in the country belongs to a thousand

40:20

families—well, about a thousand families—and

40:24

that whole pie is shrinking, while at the same time

40:27

things are getting worse and worse from every side.

40:29

The economy is declining, and if people's incomes

40:34

have been falling for five years in a row, then

40:36

people spend less and buy less, so everything

40:39

contracts. And those thousand families somehow

40:41

don't have enough.

40:42

They used to want to buy houses of 5,000

40:45

square meters, and now they have to tighten their belts

40:47

and buy ones of 4,500 square meters instead.

40:48

square meters. And I have no doubt there

40:51

was just some ordinary little conversation there

40:53

between some, I don't know, FSB officers

40:55

or oligarchs or Putin's friends, and they

40:58

ended up having, in a sense, a rather

41:01

"fair" conversation, like, well,

41:04

we seem to be short on money.

41:06

That Misha, Abyzov—well, he's a thief and

41:09

a crook, after all. He blatantly stole energy

41:13

assets, cheated everyone in the

41:16

market, and nobody likes him anyway. So let's take

41:19

everything from him. Would that be fair?

41:22

To take everything from Abyzov? And anyone

41:25

would answer: of course, that would be fair.

41:27

They can take everything. What's more, I

41:29

would say that, in fairness, taking everything from

41:33

Abyzov would be justified. It's just that this should not be done

41:34

by some other crooks. In fairness,

41:36

Abyzov, together with Chubais, should be

41:39

put in the dock for this

41:41

put on trial for this

41:43

corruption.

41:44

Then all of it should be returned and put back

41:48

into the market, into the market economy, so

41:51

that these would become genuinely normal

41:53

private assets belonging to normal

41:55

businesses.

41:56

They were former top managers of RAO UES (Unified Energy System of Russia),

41:59

who had been executives and then became

42:02

owners. So they

42:04

judged it according to their own underworld-style notions and reasoned as follows:

42:08

well, this businessman is a crook,

42:11

a con man and a scoundrel, and on top of that he lives in Italy.

42:14

Is it fair that he has all this?

42:17

It's unfair. Let's strip it from him, let's take it.

42:19

Then they will seize it

42:20

and sell it to some

42:23

Fridman or Vekselberg. This is being discussed

42:26

very actively.

42:27

Not just discussed actively—they have

42:29

official legal disputes between

42:31

Vekselberg and Fridman on one

42:33

side, and Abyzov on the other. Maybe

42:36

they ordered something, maybe

42:38

they paid for something—something like that. But the point

42:40

is, this is

42:42

redistribution: they take from one

42:45

another what was stolen, and the thing is, everything

42:47

was stolen. That's exactly the point: from the standpoint of their

42:50

own notions, some people are sitting there—

42:53

Putin's friends—and for any

42:56

asset, whether Lukoil or, I don't know,

42:59

Surgutneftegaz, for anything at all you can

43:01

say: come on, is it fair that it belongs to

43:04

him, to that oligarch over there? It's unfair.

43:06

Let's take it. If we take from anyone, the

43:10

public will support it. Will they

43:12

be happy that this person's assets are being seized?

43:14

They will be happy.

43:15

That's how Putin's system works. Here

43:17

there is no secure

43:19

property ownership. They devour one another, and

43:21

that's wonderful, because

43:22

first of all, once again, it is karmic

43:27

retribution for all of them, and especially for Abyzov,

43:30

who was a public figure and who

43:35

declared that our law on combating

43:37

illicit enrichment was somehow this

43:39

bad thing, unnecessary, unnecessary, and

43:42

impossible to apply. You remember—well,

43:44

some of you remember this story—

43:46

when Putin was running for election, he said that

43:50

the public should be allowed to submit

43:52

a bill, and that it would be necessary to collect, that is,

43:54

100,000 signatures. We rather quickly

43:56

collected 100,000 signatures for two

43:58

bills: one banning

44:00

officials from buying expensive cars costing

44:03

more than, say, 2 to 2.5

44:04

million rubles.

44:07

And the second point is about combating illicit

44:09

enrichment — that people who cannot

44:12

explain their wealth should

44:13

be held criminally liable, and

44:15

Abyzov was exactly the kind of person

44:17

who went around saying — and this is a direct

44:19

quote — that right now

44:25

Article 20

44:27

of the anti-corruption convention

44:28

is optional for adoption and does not fit

44:32

with Russian law because

44:34

the Constitution enshrines the presumption

44:36

of innocence. They set things up very nicely for themselves.

44:41

And I liked the article under which we

44:43

could ask, “Mikhail, explain after all

44:46

how it was that you, as a manager, ran

44:50

a huge chunk of Russia’s

44:52

energy sector, and then suddenly

44:54

became its owner? That is probably

44:57

illicit enrichment.” And Mikhail

44:59

Abyzov said that we did not need such a

45:01

law, and he thought he was untouchable,

45:03

while we would keep getting thrown in jail for 15 days at a time

45:06

and the system worked only for him. And

45:08

now he has seen that this is not so. And once

45:11

again, my formula for all these people is:

45:16

we should give them exactly as much sympathy as

45:20

they gave

45:21

to those who were jailed arbitrarily

45:24

and when people were tortured. However much sympathy

45:28

all these systemic liberals — from

45:30

Chubais to Abyzov, all these Dvorkoviches,

45:33

Voloshin, and all the rest — contributed, that same amount of

45:35

sympathy should be given to them when they

45:37

are jailed. And they will be jailed, because these

45:39

people will devour one another and take

45:44

from each other those very stolen

45:47

assets. So that your

45:51

proletarian hatred may flare up — especially since

45:53

the next topic is proletarian

45:56

hatred — I want to show you a video. It

45:59

just came in today. It is 51 seconds long.

46:02

Kaliningrad is a major city. In one of the

46:04

districts — no, wait, I am mixing it up,

46:07

I was mistaken — it is the town of Sovetsk

46:09

in Kaliningrad Region. Well, anyway, in

46:10

one district of the town they connected gas, and

46:14

now I will show you 51 seconds of what

46:17

a ceremonial

46:19

event for the launch

46:23

of gas looks like. They lit a gas flare, and

46:26

in 2019, in Kaliningrad Region,

46:30

which is, after all, located in Europe

46:33

and is our outpost there, and in

46:36

some sense even a showcase — look

46:38

at this and stop feeling sorry for Mikhail

46:41

Abyzov, because it is precisely thanks to

46:42

Mikhail Abyzov that in 21st-century Russia

46:48

the launch

46:49

of a gas connection to a district looks exactly

46:52

like this. At the gas launch and flame-lighting

46:55

ceremony, taking part is the governor of Kali-

46:57

ningrad Region, Anton Andreyevich Alikhanov,

47:02

Deputy Chairman of the Government

47:06

of the region, Alexander Semyonovich Rolbinov,

47:30

[music]

47:45

It is funny, but it is also awful: ruined

47:49

shacks, nightmarish shacks, mud — this is

47:54

just unbelievable. Poor people are standing all around.

47:56

It really looks like some kind of horrific

47:59

ghetto.

48:00

The governor’s Mercedes, the governor himself,

48:04

and some other bureaucratic mugs with him

48:06

are standing there, and “zavalinka, zavalinka, Rus’” — a little song

48:11

about old Russia. Good Lord, why do we, why

48:15

do we live like this and put up with all this? But

48:19

this really looks like

48:20

one of the most horrifyingly Russophobic

48:23

videos — a video about this government’s hatred for

48:27

its own country. The governor arrived in

48:29

his Mercedes,

48:30

in a Mercedes, to this

48:32

unpaved, filthy lot.

48:36

They connected gas there, do you understand, in 2019, and

48:40

they are ceremonially opening it with a song about

48:43

the zavalinka (a traditional bench by a peasant house), for heaven’s sake. In a country with

48:46

an unimaginable amount of money, this is how

48:49

we live — thanks to all these

48:53

wonderful oligarchs. And many people consider these

48:56

remarks of mine to be proletarian

48:59

hatred, that I am somehow stirring up

49:01

hatred toward the rich by showing, say,

49:04

someone’s villa in Italy — that this is incitement of

49:07

hatred toward the rich. And I was reproached for this

49:10

by the famous TV showman and star Maxim

49:15

Galkin, in fact one of

49:17

the most famous people in the country.

49:19

Speaking on the program “Hard Day’s Night” (a TV talk show), after

49:22

that we

49:23

had a bit of a polemic

49:26

on Instagram. I actually

49:28

give Maxim Galkin credit for the fact that he

49:30

did engage in that debate

49:31

instead of, like many others, pretending

49:35

that such a person does not exist.

49:36

Let us first watch 57 seconds of

49:40

Maxim Galkin on TV Rain (Dozhd).

49:42

Navalny has chosen for himself such a clever

49:44

path.

49:45

It fits so well with the proletarian

49:48

subconscious of the masses, because after all he

49:52

is playing on Bolshevik proletarian

49:54

hatred. In reality,

49:56

even when he exposes officials, he is still playing

49:59

the pipe of hatred toward wealth, that is,

50:01

it is all obvious — he says, “This one

50:03

acquired his wealth illegally,” but forgive me,

50:05

there are all sorts of ways people can grow rich,

50:08

and all kinds of things happen. But wait a second, with all

50:10

due respect for the work

50:12

of Alexei Navalny,

50:13

when he accuses my

50:15

television colleague Vladimir

50:16

Solovyov over his real estate, I

50:19

have a question: why are you accusing him?

50:21

He brings colossal ratings to his

50:24

channel; his channel, Rossiya-1, sells

50:27

advertising much more expensive thanks to

50:29

the existence of Solovyov on Telegram, he owes him

50:31

he owes him regardless of whether it is

50:33

a state channel or not, to pay

50:35

big money, and Solovyov has the right

50:37

to use that money to buy—playing the tune

50:42

of hatred toward the rich

50:44

What tune the hell am I supposed to play?

50:46

When I see this whole song and dance about the village bench

50:49

and I see this monstrous poverty

50:52

every day, and at the same time Abyzov with his

50:56

Italian estate, and all these

50:58

well,

50:59

Chubais-types

51:01

and Dunya Smirnova (Avdotya Smirnova, Russian filmmaker) with whom, how they

51:04

walk around there with a wine glass amid all of this

51:06

all sorts of people like Chulpan Khamatova (Russian actress) walking around—well, you

51:10

can call it

51:11

proletarian envy, if you like

51:14

call it whatever you want, but I’m talking about the fact

51:17

that yes, I really do find it somehow

51:19

deeply unfair that these people

51:21

robbed everyone here, and then here they are

51:25

sort of setting aside for us

51:27

some pennies so that, well, there

51:29

some of your children, who will be

51:32

luckier, can get into our

51:34

charity foundations and get treatment there

51:36

and

51:36

but overall, of course, you continue

51:39

to make us pay—let the Novosibirsk Region

51:41

keep paying an inflated tariff so that

51:45

Abyzov can keep getting money. That is

51:48

my tune. If that’s proletarian hatred, I don’t

51:51

mind, by the way. Back then as well

51:53

people in Novosibirsk already fought it off thanks to

51:54

Boyko

51:55

thanks to the people who came out to the

51:57

rally; even then the mayor, the Communist

52:00

Lokot (Anatoly Lokot, former mayor of Novosibirsk), by the way, ended up supporting this

52:02

rip-off operation and supported Abyzov then

52:04

but if you want, I played in front of him

52:09

yes, I played the tune of hatred toward

52:11

wealth—I showed that Italian

52:14

estate of Abyzov’s, and somehow they

52:16

backtracked. Not enough, but still

52:18

I find it not just unfair but

52:22

disgusting, and I will never stop

52:25

talking about it, and yes, I will keep stirring up

52:28

hatred toward these people who

52:31

became rich unjustly and unrighteously

52:33

who got rich simply through

52:36

theft. As for

52:38

Vladimir Solovyov, basically our

52:40

further argument with Maxim Galkin (Russian comedian and TV host)

52:42

came down to this: he says, well

52:46

fine, officials are officials, but why are you

52:47

going after Vladimir Solovyov, because he is

52:50

a top professional, he has high ratings

52:53

and he brings in a lot, a lot of money

52:58

to his channel. Even when I objected and

53:00

said that he brings in nothing—the money

53:02

for the channel comes from us, because the channel

53:05

Rossiya-1 is deeply unprofitable, and you and I

53:08

pay 17 billion rubles a year (about hundreds of millions of U.S. dollars) there

53:10

to keep this thug outfit afloat

53:12

including the disgusting Solovyov

53:14

Galkin said, well, still

53:16

he gets ratings, so that means

53:18

he’s a talented host. I noticed

53:20

that many people started nodding along like that

53:23

even Sobchak (Ksenia Sobchak, Russian media personality) came in and wrote: yes, I

53:26

don’t agree with him, but what a talented

53:28

Vladimir Solovyov he is

53:31

So, well, this is going to be a strange

53:34

video, because I’m going to be sitting in the corner

53:36

of this video now. I can’t do otherwise, because

53:38

the Rossiya-1 channel sends us strikes

53:41

if we cut out clips of Solovyov and his

53:43

disgusting lies, so under the rules

53:48

of YouTube, if I sit here like this

53:50

in the corner of the video, they won’t be able to

53:52

hit us with a strike. But I’d like to show you something about

53:56

Vladimir Solovyov’s professionalism

53:58

Many have probably noticed this

54:00

in his programs, in particular

54:05

Evening with Vladimir Solovyov, he invites

54:07

all kinds of monstrous

54:08

trash

54:09

who call themselves experts. This

54:11

monstrous trash lies monstrously, and Solovyov

54:14

nods along with them. But here is one absolutely super

54:18

super lie that really caught my attention

54:20

Let’s watch 45 seconds, and I’ll sit in the

54:22

corner—just wonderful

54:25

“In response to a Western journalist, our

54:27

great Russian actor Yevgeny Leonov

54:29

was asked, ‘Have you ever been abroad?’

54:32

‘Sure—Poland, Czechia, Germany.’

54:35

‘As a tourist?’ ‘No, in infantry.’ But this, this is

54:40

an objective fact, yes, it is recorded in

54:42

that very interview for Western mass

54:44

media.”

54:53

“Why?” “I went on foot.” “Ivan Vasilievich, one

55:01

moment—an objective fact, yes,”

55:04

“recorded in that very interview for

55:06

Western mass media.” And

55:11

these bastards are just lying to your face. It’s the comedy *Thirty-Three*

55:15

Probably many younger viewers of this

55:18

program haven’t seen it, but people

55:21

my age and older have all

55:22

seen this comedy, without exception, and know perfectly well

55:25

that first of all, Leonov is one of the most

55:28

famous—possibly the most famous

55:30

Russian actors

55:31

He did not fight in the Great Patriotic War (the Soviet term for World War II on the Eastern Front), because

55:34

he was too young then. He

55:36

worked at a military factory, and this is

55:38

a famous dialogue from the Soviet comedy

55:41

*Thirty-Three*, about a man who had three

55:45

teeth

55:45

so everyone thought he was an alien

55:47

and these scoundrels took this dialogue

55:51

and presented it as if it were an interview, meaning

55:54

an interview with Leonov—an ‘objective fact’

55:57

that he supposedly told foreign journalists

55:58

and Solovyov, the greatest professional, just

56:01

goes, ‘Yes, yes, yes, that happened, that happened.’

56:04

Now that’s professionalism.

56:06

the endless lying he engages in

56:09

taking advantage of the fact that all the real ones were pushed out

56:12

Parfyonov was kicked out, Kiselyov was kicked out, who

56:16

the good Kiselyov was kicked out, Savik Shuster was kicked out

56:18

no, all the others too—Svetlana Sorokina and

56:21

and so on and so on

56:22

all of them were gradually

56:24

driven out—some moved to Ukraine, some

56:26

gradually simply stopped working there

56:29

as journalists, some went to YouTube and

56:31

have done quite well there, like Parfyonov

56:33

and he continues making documentary

56:36

films there and so on. But when they were all

56:38

on television, Solovyov was there too, but he occupied the place

56:41

he was supposed to occupy—he was of no interest to anyone

56:43

just a [__] third-rate host, and

56:46

now, since he has no one to compete with

56:49

there he is everywhere, on every program, as far as

56:52

I can tell, he’s already peddling this garbage of his every

56:55

evening. Why? Because he’s ready

56:58

to lie twice as much. He’s ready to lie and

57:02

to nod along, saying that a dialogue from a famous

57:05

comedy was actually a documentary

57:08

interview that was given to foreign

57:10

journalists. This vile

57:13

clown, this so-called expert Kulikov, the

57:16

next day—since it really caused a stir—

57:18

he was pressed on it and told, well,

57:21

you’re lying, and he admitted it, saying,

57:23

I misspoke, then remembered—but that

57:25

doesn’t change the meaning, because it’s

57:28

a cultural archetype.

57:31

But the fact is, that ‘slip of the tongue’ was just

57:34

unbelievable, you understand—he simply lied.

57:36

And this Putinist

57:39

expert tells us all this was somehow about

57:41

cultural archetypes. Vile

57:44

disgusting crooks. So, what is happening

57:47

in Ingushetia (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus), in Ingushetia?

57:49

Is there an uprising in Ingushetia, or

57:53

unrest in Ingushetia? In Ingushetia

57:55

something is happening connected with the fact that

57:58

people have had enough—they were insulted, humiliated, and they

58:01

did not calm down and did not fall silent, because

58:05

the last protests there were four

58:07

months ago, and they were connected with the fact that

58:09

part of Ingushetia’s territory was handed over

58:13

you can’t even say it was handed to the Chechen

58:15

Republic

58:16

but more specifically to Ramzan Kadyrov, and

58:18

no one explained what had happened. There were

58:19

protests, and in various ways they were

58:23

somehow shut down

58:24

people were deceived, strung along, but

58:26

then they came out again and acted quite

58:28

aggressively. Let’s watch a few

58:31

videos, and when you watch them

58:33

you understand that this really is

58:36

serious. Let’s play 49 seconds—this is Magas,

58:40

the capital of Ingushetia—this is what’s happening there.

58:50

[applause]

58:55

uh

58:56

uh

59:01

[music]

59:16

yes

59:23

uh

59:25

how

59:25

And someone might say that this is

59:28

outrageous—throwing chairs at

59:29

police officers. But I would say, you know,

59:31

what’s outrageous is that they were even

59:33

being dispersed at all. Why the hell can’t the residents of Magas

59:36

who live there, in Ingushetia,

59:38

why can’t they gather in their own

59:41

main square and ask a question:

59:44

Explain why part of our territory

59:47

was handed over to someone.

59:48

They have every legal right to do that, absolutely.

59:50

Absolutely. Why should you disperse them, and

59:52

should they be throwing chairs? How else

59:54

are they supposed to react to lawlessness?

59:56

What’s lawless is that across the entire

59:59

republic, mobile internet was shut off.

1:00:02

I mean, that’s just some kind of extreme

1:00:04

boorishness, so that people couldn’t

1:00:06

contact each other, send these

1:00:09

videos, and among other things make it harder

1:00:11

for these videos to reach the rest of

1:00:13

the country. Someone called all

1:00:16

the major companies there

1:00:18

the ‘big three’ telecom operators and said, you know,

1:00:20

cut the internet, and they said okay and

1:00:22

cut the internet. People, apparently, paid for that.

1:00:25

There are service terms and conditions.

1:00:29

Half a million people live in the republic.

1:00:32

How can they just go ahead, without a court

1:00:34

order, and switch off the internet? But they did. Go ahead,

1:00:36

watch this 27-minute clash that

1:00:39

is happening there, which shows it

1:00:41

from a slightly different angle—just look at what they’ve

1:00:44

driven these people to. Twenty-seven seconds, let’s roll it.

1:00:47

[applause]

1:01:07

[music]

1:01:17

38,000 people are watching us live

1:01:20

right now. I hope that among them there are

1:01:21

at least some residents of Ingushetia

1:01:23

whom I absolutely want to support and

1:01:26

express my solidarity with, because you

1:01:28

see, we—we’re not in Ingushetia, you

1:01:29

have never been there, just like me, for example, yes, you

1:01:32

don’t know exactly what’s happening, but we can see

1:01:34

some very simple facts.

1:01:35

Part of the territory has been transferred. No one explains why.

1:01:39

Everyone more or less understands that there’s either

1:01:42

oil there or something else—someone wants

1:01:44

to make money, and as I already said

1:01:45

earlier on this program, it’s simple:

1:01:48

Kadyrov wants to make money for

1:01:50

some of his oil people or someone else; he

1:01:53

made a deal about it with Yunus-Bek Yevkurov

1:01:54

but then come out and say it openly: you know,

1:01:57

we decided to make money off this territory

1:01:59

but we’ll share some of it, so to speak,

1:02:03

with you. After all, only 500,000 people live in Ingushetia

1:02:06

altogether—we’ll do something for you. But

1:02:08

no, instead they were told: just shut up.

1:02:11

And this Yevkurov comes out and starts up this

1:02:15

that so-called Caucasian masculinity

1:02:17

it was basically this idea that here in the

1:02:20

Caucasus, you must not go out into the streets, and that it's

1:02:24

beneath the dignity of a real man,

1:02:26

to go out there and demand something.

1:02:29

Apparently, what is worthy of a real man

1:02:31

is quietly selling off part of your land.

1:02:34

And now,

1:02:35

what's most remarkable and absolutely right is that in

1:02:39

Ingushetia, the people taking part in these

1:02:41

protests are already putting forward political

1:02:43

demands. They are demanding Yevkurov's resignation,

1:02:45

they are demanding the dissolution of the government, and they

1:02:48

are demanding the return of direct elections for

1:02:51

the governor. In other words, they are demanding

1:02:52

democracy, popular rule. They are demanding

1:02:55

that their voice be returned to them. So, well,

1:02:57

of course their demands are right. When

1:03:00

they come out and block the Kavkaz highway, well,

1:03:02

we understand that, of course, some people are stuck there,

1:03:05

and

1:03:06

and probably for those who found themselves in that situation

1:03:09

it's extremely unpleasant. But what else are they supposed to

1:03:12

do? Those 30 seconds while they

1:03:13

block the Kavkaz highway

1:03:17

[applause]

1:03:19

[music]

1:03:22

[applause]

1:03:22

[music]

1:03:35

[applause]

1:03:36

[music]

1:03:39

[applause]

1:03:39

[music]

1:03:42

[applause]

1:03:44

And these videos are nowhere to be seen, and on

1:03:47

television they aren't shown, even though in reality

1:03:49

the republic is in an uproar. I mean, for a republic of 500,000

1:03:51

people,

1:03:52

these are very, very large and significant

1:03:55

protests. They matter to all of us.

1:03:57

By the way, there's a very widespread

1:04:00

opinion that nothing will ever work out in Russia

1:04:02

because there is this supposedly terrible

1:04:04

Caucasus, where people are supposedly even more

1:04:08

corrupt, where the tradition of corruption

1:04:11

is supposedly even stronger than in the rest of

1:04:13

Russia. That is partly true, because

1:04:16

the Caucasus is indeed even more susceptible to feudalization,

1:04:18

even more so. But look: in Ingushetia

1:04:22

they are demanding democracy right now. In five

1:04:26

days, a new rally has been scheduled; it will be on

1:04:28

Monday, and I hope that many

1:04:31

people will take part in these processes,

1:04:33

in these protests, and will achieve some kind of

1:04:35

democratization, will get answers to the

1:04:37

question of why part of our

1:04:39

territory was given away. But what's interesting is that when

1:04:42

something similar happens in Moscow, it is

1:04:44

the opposition that does it, and look—immediately there are

1:04:45

criminal cases, detainees, 15-day jail terms,

1:04:48

1,000 people locked up. In Ingushetia,

1:04:51

that isn't happening, and once again we see

1:04:54

a very different approach to all

1:04:57

the national republics. Look at what

1:05:00

is happening now in Yakutia. In my previous

1:05:04

program, I spoke in detail about the unrest

1:05:06

that broke out there after

1:05:08

a migrant from Kyrgyzstan

1:05:11

raped a local resident, a Yakut woman.

1:05:14

And there, it was precisely this kind of ethnic protest;

1:05:18

it was specifically Yakuts who entered into

1:05:20

confrontation with migrants. And an absolutely

1:05:23

incredible thing happened: the president

1:05:26

of the republic said today, essentially, 'free

1:05:31

of migrants.'

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If some Russians here in Moscow

1:05:35

demanded a city free of migrants,

1:05:37

criminal proceedings for inciting hatred would immediately

1:05:40

be opened against them. But there,

1:05:44

the president of the republic does it, and nothing happens.

1:05:45

More than that, he issued a special decree and

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closed off a number of

1:05:51

sectors of the economy so that

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migrants could not work there.

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In fact, strictly speaking from a legal standpoint,

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governors do have such powers—though not

1:06:00

such broad ones. They can restrict

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foreign labor, but first of all,

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this does not really apply to the former

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Soviet Union, so those very

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Kyrgyz migrants, in theory, cannot be restricted that way. And secondly,

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well, secondly,

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what happened there is unprecedented: they banned them from working in

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food service, hospitality, and so

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on. So in effect, they are trying

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to make Yakutia free of migrants, and

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it's impossible to imagine any

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official making statements like that or doing things like that

1:06:30

about any Russian region. But in Yakutia,

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when they were faced with an ethnic

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protest—an ethnic protest against migrants—

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you can't exactly start talking about 'Russian fascism,' can you?

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It's inconvenient, so everyone pretends

1:06:41

that nothing of the sort is happening. Well,

1:06:43

in fact, what they are doing

1:06:45

in Yakutia right now is a strange thing that

1:06:48

will lead nowhere. But we

1:06:49

understand why they are doing it: they need to

1:06:52

calm the residents down, so they are simply

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telling them stories like, 'We've

1:06:56

passed a law, so there will be fewer immigrants,'

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but across the whole country we are supposedly

1:07:02

saying that migrants

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are hardworking, industrious, that there are no

1:07:06

problems with them. Still, in general, I would like

1:07:08

to see migration restricted overall, and at least

1:07:11

a visa regime introduced with the countries of Central

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Asia. We have conducted many

1:07:16

surveys on this topic: 85 to 86 percent of the population

1:07:19

would support the introduction of a visa

1:07:21

regime. But that is not happening, it is not

1:07:24

happening.

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Instead, there's some kind of absurdity with the construction of

1:07:27

a wall, like in *Game of Thrones*, between

1:07:31

somewhere—that is, a virtual border between

1:07:34

Yakutia and Kyrgyzstan—and a wall is being erected there.

1:07:36

It's complete nonsense, but it's happening

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when they feel the need to throw the public a bone, well.

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So once again, we’re seeing this kind of data.

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Quite disgusting.

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We’re seeing some pretty disgusting double standards right now.

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More than thirty-eight thousand people are watching me right now.

1:07:52

I’ve already gone a little over my one-hour limit.

1:07:54

But I still have a couple of topics left, including one about Anya.

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I want to tell you about her, because in the country—

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a new mayor has appeared, and her name is Anya Shchukina.

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Shchyokino.

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And that’s actually really great, no—

1:08:03

no irony here: a 28-year-old woman has become the mayor of—

1:08:06

the city of Ust-Ilimsk, for one simple reason:

1:08:08

people there hate United Russia.

1:08:11

When the United Russia members

1:08:12

removed the main candidate for mayor of that

1:08:16

city, from the Rodina party, people simply, out of

1:08:18

principle, said: “Oh really? In that case,”

1:08:21

“we’ll go and vote for 28-year-old Anya from the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia).”

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And they did vote.

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She was elected with 44 percent against 37 percent.

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They beat the United Russia candidate and made her mayor.

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Why? Because people spontaneously organized

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that very “smart voting” around a candidate.

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They said, “Fine,”

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“we’ll concentrate on one person and elect”

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“that person. It doesn’t matter who she is, it doesn’t matter”

1:08:48

“how old she is — any person is better for us”

1:08:51

“than a United Russia candidate.” So this spontaneous

1:08:54

voting in Ust-Ilimsk worked.

1:08:56

It works everywhere for us, and we need to keep doing it.

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And we need to keep doing it, because the reaction from

1:09:01

United Russia was just priceless.

1:09:04

One former head of the local branch of the Young Guard

1:09:07

in that very Ust-Ilimsk

1:09:08

wrote a post on VKontakte, I think.

1:09:12

He deleted it pretty quickly, but he wrote it.

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Because he wrote what he really thinks.

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This is what a United Russia member thinks about people. I’ll quote him directly:

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“People, residents of your own city, you don’t

1:09:22

understand what you’ve done. You don’t know a damn thing about

1:09:25

politics. You are a very limited

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herd.”

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“If you don’t understand that, then you’re [__] and”

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And this is what United Russia is telling us.

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You don’t know how to vote, you’re

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[__] and a limited herd, so

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stay in your stall.”

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“And we know who should be mayors, who

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should be governors, and who should

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run the energy sector, and so on, and so

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on.” That’s it.

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Register for Smart Voting.

1:09:54

So that this person—

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well, so that he understands that he’s the one who belongs

1:10:00

[__] — he’s the one who should be driven into a stall, not

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normal people. As for Kokorin and Mamaev, I

1:10:06

haven’t said anything on this topic while it was

1:10:09

being discussed everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.

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Because, among other things, I absolutely

1:10:16

believe it was right to hold them

1:10:18

criminally liable.

1:10:20

Because they really did start

1:10:22

a fight. But now the case is already heading toward

1:10:25

trial, and I wanted to draw your attention to

1:10:28

the following: let’s take a look. It was a fairly

1:10:32

ugly fight, to begin with.

1:10:34

Let’s look at those 26 seconds of what

1:10:37

Kokorin and Mamaev actually did.

1:11:06

Basically, drunk, wasted thugs

1:11:09

completely numb from their own

1:11:11

sense of impunity, jumping someone.

1:11:14

But this may sound strange, and yet I

1:11:18

now actually want to speak up in defense of

1:11:20

Kokorin and Mamaev. They’ve been held

1:11:23

for half a year. What’s more, I just

1:11:25

read about it.

1:11:26

I hadn’t realized the scale of it. There were, well, two

1:11:28

episodes — you saw them — and basically

1:11:31

all the court is examining is these

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two episodes you just saw: 26

1:11:37

seconds. There are 18 investigators on it — 18! What is

1:11:44

that supposed to be? Both of them

1:11:46

should get 15 days. I know absolutely nothing

1:11:49

about Kokorin and Mamaev, and I’m not

1:11:51

into football.

1:11:52

To my shame, if you ask me

1:11:53

which team Kokorin and Mamaev play for, I

1:11:55

have no idea. I don’t know whether they’re good

1:11:58

players or bad ones. But I can see that these two

1:12:01

drunken hooligans started a fight and should

1:12:03

be held criminally

1:12:04

responsible. Both of them need to be punished.

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But they’ve been kept for half a year in pretrial detention.

1:12:09

Eighteen investigators have been assigned; they’ve turned it into a show

1:12:12

for the whole country. A lot of people can’t even

1:12:16

get criminal cases opened

1:12:18

when their apartment has been robbed,

1:12:19

when someone has been raped, when someone has really

1:12:22

been beaten — or lightly beaten, as happened

1:12:25

in this video — and

1:12:27

no one deals with those cases either; there aren’t enough

1:12:28

investigators. But here, apparently,

1:12:31

you can assign a team of 18 people

1:12:34

to investigate something for half a year.

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And now there’ll be a trial, a long trial, and they’ll

1:12:40

keep showing us Kokorin and

1:12:42

Mamaev endlessly — footballers, scandals, all of it.

1:12:45

Blondes and brunettes — they’ve turned

1:12:47

justice into some nasty, vulgar

1:12:50

farce. Kokorin and Mamaev need to be punished,

1:12:53

and then the person who assigned 18 people

1:12:56

to their miserable case

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— a case that isn’t worth

1:13:02

a damn thing, and that a magistrate could have resolved

1:13:05

in a single day — should be jailed too. That’s how I think

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it all should work. Remember, there used to be

1:13:11

a section called “And Everyone Laughed”,

1:13:17

in Soviet Pioneer youth magazines,

1:13:20

they really, really loved that kind of thing. And

1:13:23

a truly remarkable episode happened in

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Bashkiria (Bashkortostan), where

1:13:28

where, by the way, such an accomplished crook as

1:13:30

Radiy Khabirov is running in the election,

1:13:32

and he tells us that he pays

1:13:36

good salaries to doctors, good salaries

1:13:39

to nurses. There was a great

1:13:42

meeting of the staff at a maternity hospital there.

1:13:45

And let’s take a look at what people there actually said.

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reacted to

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the words about what their real

1:13:51

salaries are

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27 seconds doctors no she the latest UNIAN

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atolla at 60–65, obstetrician 35, and 4 she 20

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people aren’t laughing at jokes, they’re laughing

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at the information there and at what their

1:14:31

salary is

1:14:31

you heard the figure, 21.3, they

1:14:35

say junior medical staff get 21.3 — that

1:14:38

means that a nurse, an orderly, or

1:14:41

a feldsher (mid-level medical practitioner)

1:14:42

on paper, on average, gets 20.13, and

1:14:45

people burst out laughing

1:14:46

because it’s obvious that they actually

1:14:48

earn somewhere around 15 — that’s poverty right there

1:14:53

you see, this is where it comes from — these are interconnected

1:14:56

vessels: Abyzov with his villa in Italy

1:15:00

Ishayev, Putin, Medvedev, all the rest, and

1:15:02

the people who laugh at salaries of 21,200

1:15:06

to 21,300 rubles because they dream of earning

1:15:09

21,300 rubles. I wish that in this maternity hospital

1:15:12

people would also — I don’t know — organize some kind of strike

1:15:14

because in Novgorod Region

1:15:16

we helped the strikers, and they won

1:15:20

in fact, really, there now

1:15:22

they called off the strike because, because

1:15:26

they held firm under pressure, and most of

1:15:29

their demands were met, or almost all

1:15:31

the demands were met. But as for what I need

1:15:33

to say about holding strikes — it turns out yesterday there was

1:15:35

a nationwide Russian strike

1:15:38

by truck drivers. Today on Twitter

1:15:41

by chance I saw in the news that

1:15:43

they were staging a strike — they were driving at

1:15:45

low speed somewhere, and about this

1:15:48

absolutely nobody wrote anything, nobody knows, and

1:15:51

I just wanted to say to the truck drivers, to the

1:15:53

truckers’ union: guys, seriously

1:15:55

are you in kindergarten or what? If

1:15:57

you’re carrying out an action like a strike

1:16:00

if you have hundreds of

1:16:03

thousands of people taking part, come to me, I’ll talk about it

1:16:06

at least hundreds of thousands of people will

1:16:09

hear about it from my program, we

1:16:11

will make sure that many people in the country

1:16:14

find out. Because to hold

1:16:16

a strike in such a way that nobody

1:16:18

hears about it is, at the very least, ridiculous

1:16:21

that’s why they don’t care about your demands

1:16:23

you can justify it all you want, but from

1:16:25

blocking some road in the middle of nowhere on

1:16:28

Rublyovka (an elite Moscow suburb), nobody’s life got any worse

1:16:30

so before doing things like that

1:16:33

a strike, properly, against the system

1:16:35

against Platon (Russia’s truck toll system) — come to us and we’ll help you, and

1:16:37

we don’t need anything from you in return. I’m not

1:16:41

going to ask you to go around there with

1:16:43

placards for Volny or anyone else

1:16:45

you want to support, and most importantly whether you support Putin or not

1:16:46

within the framework of your strike

1:16:48

that’s all — we’ll help you completely

1:16:51

selflessly. I want to end the program

1:16:54

with a very funny story, a rather amusing

1:16:57

story from the city of Belgorod about the new

1:17:00

you may have seen it, but I still want to

1:17:01

show it. There, the city mayor was being inaugurated

1:17:06

was taking office, and, and let’s

1:17:10

listen to this music — he came out at 21

1:17:13

seconds, for the greeting and oath-taking

1:17:16

the floor is given

1:17:19

to Golda, well, and to Yuri Vladimirovich, I ask everyone

1:17:21

to stand

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[applause]

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[music]

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where was the lightsaber? That’s what was missing

1:17:38

— Star Wars. But the continuation of

1:17:41

this story is even funnier because

1:17:43

the Empire Struck Back, and that

1:17:46

same music — which was good, because he didn’t

1:17:47

come out to the dun-dun-dun-dun theme, he

1:17:50

came out to the Rebels’ march. But after that

1:17:55

the head of the department

1:17:58

of culture, who apparently was responsible for this

1:18:00

event, was fired because

1:18:02

well, everyone laughed about it on

1:18:05

social media. So in this way, it turns out

1:18:06

that in the end the Imperials fired

1:18:09

the poor victim — the rebel who

1:18:11

played their anthem. I just want to say

1:18:14

you can’t take things with such beastly

1:18:17

seriousness. So they played music from

1:18:18

Star Wars, everyone laughed, everyone

1:18:21

noticed that there is in

1:18:23

Russia such a cool city as Belgorod

1:18:26

why they fired the person is unclear

1:18:29

therefore I call on the authorities of Belgorod

1:18:31

Region not to give in to the Imperial

1:18:34

stormtroopers and to reinstate the person

1:18:37

who played that great Star Wars

1:18:40

music. And many thanks to everyone who watched

1:18:42

see you next Thursday

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