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Good evening, everyone. It's exactly eight o'clock in Moscow,

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and I am its permanent host,

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Alexei Navalny, and apparently the kind of person

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who could have pocketed union money,

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as various Kremlin-controlled media called me this week,

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yes, someone who could have pocketed union money — but

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I didn't pocket the unions' money.

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I didn't pocket the unions' money because

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the unions collect money into their own

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separate account, and they are very transparent.

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They report on everything, and I am very proud

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to help Russia's independent trade unions,

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and I urge you to support them too. Send in your questions

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with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter. I won't

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be answering questions from

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the mugs today — specifically, from the people who

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these wonderful people are the ones who are

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sponsors and friends of our channel, and there

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is an option there where you can

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get your name written on a mug. There are a lot

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of such people, and I don't even know whether I'll have

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enough time in the program — or enough mugs —

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to write down all the names. Of course, I won't do it every

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single time, but right now

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it's an important moment: on

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the previous program, we set a record for

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those little ducks — the money ducks

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that float across the bottom of the screen carrying money.

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We were raising money for fines, and today I'm also

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continuing to raise money for those very fines

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that staff members, municipal deputies, campaign workers,

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I, and many others — almost all independent

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candidates — now supposedly owe to Mosgortrans (Moscow public transport),

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the police, the National Guard, and the Armenia restaurant,

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a huge amount of money. And that money

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has to be paid — these are the kinds of sums

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they will have to pay because all of us together

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demanded our right to

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independent politics, demanded our

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right to

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participate in peaceful protests. It's a kind of tax

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that Putin has imposed on everyone

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who takes part in organizing

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mass demonstrations. So it would probably be fair

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if all of us chipped in a little

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and together raised the amount.

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23,000 people are watching us live right now.

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There are a huge number of questions. The week,

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of course, was packed with

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events. Let's try to discuss

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more or less all of it — lots of different

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topics. Send your questions, I'll be asking, I'll be

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answering your questions. I want to start

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with the issue of bars and the issue of

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St. Petersburg. It seems to me very

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important — St. Petersburg is actually a very telling city.

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If you've been to St. Petersburg

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recently, especially if you went there on vacation,

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then, after all, probably

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for most people — for most people,

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and for me in particular, of course —

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St. Petersburg's wonderful museums

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and various beautiful

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landmarks matter, but so do all the bars and

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places where people eat and spend their evenings

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enjoying themselves in a civilized way — they are also

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absolutely wonderful, really.

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It's wonderful when you're in St. Petersburg

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in the evening, in these

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popular nightlife spots, and you look around

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and see how well everything is organized, even under

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this government, which simply

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crushes everyone and doesn't let anyone develop.

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You realize that, basically, if you give

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normal Russian people

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freedom, they'll do everything very well.

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In that sense, St. Petersburg looks very good,

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very cool, and really impressive compared

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with any European capital. Eating and drinking there

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there

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is just one continuous pleasure. And now the United Russia party

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wants

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to make there be a lot less

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of that pleasure. This week they

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passed a law under which all bars

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with an area of less than 50 square meters will be shut down.

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All of this is being done under the pretext that

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residents are against it. Very often these

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small bars open simply

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in residential buildings, and naturally,

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cities always involve conflict — especially

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a big city, which is always a big

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conflict. And there are St. Petersburg residents who

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live there and say, 'I just love that

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some Navalny cultist has dragged himself over from Moscow

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to our Rubinstein Street.' As everyone knows,

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what do those Moscow suckers do?

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They go to Rubinstein Street,

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start drinking there and wandering back and forth.

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Naturally, some people don't like that,

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because it disturbs their peace and sleep.

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That's a natural conflict in any big

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city. But United Russia's solution is always

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to ban things — and in fact it has banned all

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these bars by passing this special law.

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6,000 people will lose their jobs,

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and around 200 establishments will close.

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And that's why I chose this as the first topic

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and why I'm talking about it for so long: it's simply

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a typical example of how United Russia, and

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the authorities in general, won't let anyone live,

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won't let anyone live in peace, and will destroy everything

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good that exists. And really,

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the coronavirus crisis has only just ended,

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and all these places and businesses are barely hanging on.

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There's a big food court here,

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right across from our office, and we

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go there for lunch every day. I come in and see that

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30 percent of the places have closed.

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Thirty percent. And it's like that everywhere. Some people

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worked there, someone made some profit,

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but someone lived off that. That's exactly the kind of

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business that makes everything around it

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better and makes people a little wealthier. And nobody

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became a millionaire from it, no.

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Everything is fine when it comes to billionaires and the billionaire class.

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Fine, but these small little places here—

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these cool establishments apparently need to be banned urgently.

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A deputy spoke well on this issue:

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Maxim Reznik in the Legislative Assembly

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of St. Petersburg. Let’s listen.

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1:28 — Reznik on this.

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Even before this law was passed, I simply

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want to address United Russia and say:

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Guys, you’re doing something wrong, and you

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don’t need to hit yet another new low. This is

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ultimately a matter of self-respect.

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Where are all the people who still respect themselves?

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And colleagues, I would like to propose that you remove

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item eight from the agenda—the issue

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of regulating the circulation of alcoholic and

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alcohol-containing products, or more simply,

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the “50-meter law.” Dear colleagues,

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members of the Legislative Assembly, a number of

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deputies, including the Assembly’s leadership, have received

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an appeal

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from more than a hundred entrepreneurs

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who will be affected by this law. Colleagues, I am not

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asking you right now to reject it outright,

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just give me one minute for the reasoning

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as to why I still believe it should be

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removed. The entrepreneurs, broadly speaking,

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are citing rather alarming figures. They say that

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passing this law will lead to a drop of

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700 million rubles in direct revenue alone

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for the city, and, by their estimate, 1.4

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billion rubles in total losses. Six thousand

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jobs could be lost in the city.

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Colleagues, let’s think about this. We have only just

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started emerging from the epidemic (pandemic), and we have not

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done much to help businesses. And now, of course,

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I understand residents’ concerns—

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that is sacred, and we must respond to issues

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connected with violations of their rights

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to a comfortable living environment. But if

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there is a clash of interests, what will it give us

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to pass this in the third reading? Think about it.

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We will only make the situation even more conflict-ridden.

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We’ll pass it in the third reading, the governor will sign it,

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but that won’t solve the problem.

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Then I or someone else will introduce a reverse law,

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and again there will be this kind of forced

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dialogue—in a confrontational mode, in a

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conflict-ridden environment. Maybe now

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it makes sense to stop.

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Still, United Russia went ahead and did it.

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Despite Reznik’s speech and

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the objections of other deputies, there is

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a petition on Change.org, various

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open letters—yes, all of that is absolutely right.

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But I call on these representatives

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of business, especially small business

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in St. Petersburg, the representatives of all these

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cafes that are going to be destroyed, and those

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six thousand people who will lose

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their jobs: guys, simply asking is not enough here.

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What’s needed here is a real ultimatum.

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This is a large segment of business, and while

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understanding that some

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city residents have a somewhat different view

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of all this, they may need some kind of compensation.

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Not that you necessarily have to pour

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free drinks for all the people

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living on the floors above these cafes,

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but still, some kind of arrangement with them

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has to be worked out. This is not a matter of simply

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shutting everything down.

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It is generally clear why United Russia

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did this: it was financed,

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lobbied for, and paid for by the owners

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of large establishments. They want these

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cool little bars packed with people

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to be shut down so everyone moves over to them, and some

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United Russia member made out well from it.

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So here’s the point.

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There’s no need to just ask, beg, and

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send in all kinds of appeals. You need to say:

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Fine, you may shut us down, but we will not disappear.

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We will declare war.

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United Russia did this, after all.

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We will wage a fight against the governor—

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a war.

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Against the city administration, whose head is not

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especially loved in St. Petersburg as it is.

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And we will go after them; we will declare war on Putin.

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We will drive down their ratings. Six thousand people

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stripped of their jobs—

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that is a major force. Hundreds of establishments,

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each with owners behind them—that is

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a fairly substantial organizational resource.

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And they need to fight back; this government needs to be pressured,

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just as we actually tried to do

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during the “Five Steps” campaign.

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On Vladimir Milov’s broadcast there was

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Konstantin Sonin,

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one of Russia’s best-known

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economists. He said that if it had not been for

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the “Five Steps” program, if we had not

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put forward it at the time as an

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ultimatum to United Russia—if you don’t pay,

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not a kopeck, we’ll crush you in Moscow at

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the elections—then Putin, of course, would never

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have paid those 10,000 rubles, and then another

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10,000 rubles per child, nor

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fulfilled that part of the program. Because

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this government understands no other language.

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When you ask it for something and try

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to negotiate, it doesn’t work, because

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someone has already brought over a bag of money.

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The owners of the big establishments have, and your

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requests interest no one. What they fear

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is not even just the language of ultimatums, but

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a real threat—

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when it starts to interfere with their political

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interests. In St. Petersburg this

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week, the governor distinguished himself because

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he was probably at some point under the illusion

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that he had

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high approval ratings, and that Putin had high

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approval ratings too, apparently forgetting for a second

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that all of that was fabricated.

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So he went off to a football match to congratulate

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the Zenit football club at the Zenit stadium.

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at the Zenit Arena, and he was booed there

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let's watch about three minutes of this

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for context, at first it's 1 minute 17 seconds in

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Alexander Dyukov is speaking

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the head of the Russian Football Union, and

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then Beglov speaks, and you'll hear

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what a striking difference there is. So,

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Beglov was booed at the stadium

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I know

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and in the upper stands too

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as you can see. Beglov clearly wanted

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to insert himself right into a very

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St. Petersburg story, but Zenit is above all

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a source of pride specifically for the people of St. Petersburg, and so

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he showed up in a scarf and all that, and got

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complete rejection. And this is actually not

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nonsense — it's an extremely important political

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thing. Do you remember what marked the beginning of the end

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for the previous governor, Governor

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Poltavchenko? Let me remind you of these

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remarkable 21 seconds, after which

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it became absolutely, definitively clear

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that Poltavchenko was finished as the head

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of the city of St. Petersburg. Let's watch this one

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moment

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[applause]

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for what?

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[applause]

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this

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[applause]

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that's it — there was no more Poltavchenko after that

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he had been showing off somewhere, like every

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United Russia politician, and said on some occasion that

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the residents of St. Petersburg, supposedly,

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often behave like petty nobodies (a reference to his insulting remark), and then

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he came to the stadium again, and

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the stadium chanted against the governor — and that was it, no more

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Poltavchenko. And the same thing

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will happen to Beglov, because the authorities

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have traditionally claimed that

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fans and organized supporter groups are

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a kind of stronghold for the regime, these

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radical fan groups

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at one time they were even used for

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attacks on the opposition; in general, the authorities do quite a bit

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with them and think this is a

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in their view, patriotically

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minded segment that will

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go all out for the authorities. But that hasn't been true for a long time

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and when it breaks through like this, when at the

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stadium they boo the governor, that

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means his approval rating is way below

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rock bottom. And I started with the case of the

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restaurateurs in St. Petersburg who

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are simply being destroyed right now because

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the area of their establishments is less than 50

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square meters. That's where the pressure should be applied, that's where

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you need to hit. There's no need to beg Beglov

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you need to say: Beglov, you may shut us down,

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but our swan song will be

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that we will

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bury you politically, and we will destroy your ratings. And as the famous historian said,

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do you think I won't outplay you?

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do you think I won't

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destroy you? That's what needs to be said. Well,

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shut us down — and we'll destroy you. And that's exactly

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what needs to be done. So, wrapping up

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this topic, I just want once again to

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support all those establishments that

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they are now trying in St. Petersburg

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to shut down. They are the pride of St. Petersburg, and

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truly, absolutely

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a European-style project that emerged

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on its own, without support from the authorities. What

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the authorities are doing now is destroying

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this European project. A lot of people here are asking

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Art Maniac asks,

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by what system the Investigative Committee and the Interior Ministry choose whom

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to squeeze, whose place needs to be searched

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Anatoly Mavrinkov asks: what is happening

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at all? Every day it's either a search, an interrogation, or

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an arrest — wake up in the morning and get ready for prison

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Anatoly writes to us

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dear Art Maniac, dear Anatoly, they

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choose all this for only one

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reason: to do something like this so that

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Art Maniac and Anatoly Mavrinkov

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will be intimidated. Because, well, the purpose of all these

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arrests — we'll discuss them later

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today; they are very different: Furgal, and

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Open Russia, Verzilov, and so on — but

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the goal is one: to make you afraid. Because

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there are a lot of you, and the Investigative Committee

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is small — the number of Investigative Committee

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personnel is far smaller than the audience of this

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program. And the number of all these

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security-service people involved in

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the repression is much smaller than the number of viewers

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of this program. So the only

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way for this regime to survive

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is simply to grab one person

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make an example of them, publicly

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torment and persecute them so that

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you all become terrified. There is no other way

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for them to do it. That's why they

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engage in this kind of crap. And by the way,

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speaking of local courts and so on,

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there is some good news too — very rare news, all the more so because

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once again the news came from

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that same St. Petersburg, to which we've already devoted 17

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minutes of our program, but

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St. Petersburg undoubtedly

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deserves it. The video I

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showed you — I probably showed it three times over the summer

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because it's such a

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cool video, one that perfectly illustrates

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how the elections were conducted in

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St. Petersburg, where everything was

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totally falsified in the

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municipal elections. There, for 30

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seconds, you can see commission members simply

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running away with the documents because they couldn't

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forge them right in front of

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the observers, so they grabbed all

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the documents and ran. Let's watch — it's just

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simply

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it really is absolutely astonishing

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Video: polling station election commission number

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1280 — they needed to falsify the votes

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the results in favor of their own candidates. The thing is,

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here people simply just took the ballot papers

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not the official tally sheet, and went off somewhere with the help of

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the commission. So, we can see that the observer

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is simply shocked and can’t even understand what

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can be done in this situation. But the

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good news is that

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yesterday the Moskovsky District Court

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of St. Petersburg partially annulled

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the voting results at this polling station

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because it was simply impossible not to

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annul them: a commission member

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was sitting there and then left with the ballots. And so

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three Smart Voting candidates

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became deputies in this district. That is very

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great. In fact, court cases are still ongoing there

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— it’s not always possible everywhere to

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win like this and ensure that those who

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won actually become deputies, but nevertheless it

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shows how important it is

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to do this work consistently

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how important it is to become an observer

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and how important it is, when there is a real election, yes

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that’s what made it different from the notorious

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nationwide vote. In St. Petersburg there was

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lawlessness — complete lawlessness — during that

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nationwide vote across the whole

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country, but there were observers there, there

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was at least some procedure, it was possible there

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to go to court. So this is very important. And once

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again during this program I’ll repeat

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for the millionth time: go to the Smart Voting website

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and register. There are 61

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election campaigns that it will cover, and

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that is the scope that

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Smart Voting will cover. There will also be many, many

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campaigns at a smaller level where we

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won’t be able to cover everything. Well, there are 31

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regions, guys — this is where your efforts are needed

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so please take part

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54 thousand people, people

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54 thousand people are watching us live

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on air

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About ice cream

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Someone is asking me — I’ll say something about it, Witch

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well, when you write such, such

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obscene usernames, I can’t even

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say them out loud — maybe you can see this username

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I can’t pronounce it, although it’s fairly

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funny and cleverly rhymed. Should we expect

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new cases, Abbas, for so-called

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justification of terrorism? What do you think about the case of

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Svetlana Prokopyeva, and she

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received a guilty verdict and

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fortunately a fine rather than

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a prison sentence. What did I think? I spoke about what

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I think when the Prokopyeva case

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began

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She wrote a column after

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a young man blew himself up in

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the reception area of the FSB (Federal Security Service) and left a note saying that the FSB

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uses torture, that the FSB torments people

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and therefore, basically, “I’ll go and blow this up”

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She wrote that the FSB itself was to blame for the fact that

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he went and blew himself up, and to prosecute her

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criminally for justifying

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terrorism

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But Svetlana Prokopyeva was absolutely right in

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every word

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The method used by that

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terrorist — well, of course the method

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was terrorist: he went to that reception office and

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blew it up. Some warrant officer was standing

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at the gate for no particular reason — he personally

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hadn’t tortured anyone, he was just, just

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an ordinary guy who had simply found a job

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at the FSB, and yes, he died

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for nothing

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But the logical conclusions that

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pushed this person toward a completely

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wrong method of struggle — they existed, they

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arose in his head precisely

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because the FSB tortured people, tormented people

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absolutely innocent people. And when people

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look at our Federal Security Service

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which receives enormous

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amounts of money in order to protect

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our security, our country, from threats

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and instead itself simply grabs

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random people and shocks them with electricity to force out of them

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confessions of participation in

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nonexistent extremist groups

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well, obviously this leads to people’s

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alienation and hatred. So Prokopyeva

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wrote everything absolutely correctly, and

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I say this with absolutely no fear that

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a case like that will be brought against me or you

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a criminal case — go ahead and open one. Anyone can see that

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all of this happened

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precisely because inside the FSB there are

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scoundrels who say, “Let’s torture

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people, let’s torture them,” and then when

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photos emerge in court showing these

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electrical burn marks from electric shocks

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they say, “Well, he was bitten by

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insects.” And that is not an exaggeration either — it is

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the pure truth. They look everyone straight in the eye

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— the judge, the public — smile and

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say, “Well, you know, he was bitten by

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insects, we didn’t beat him

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with electric current.” So they

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are [__] scoundrels and in fact are

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enemies of our country, despite the fact that

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they have

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FSB ID cards. In that

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sense, of course, the truth was entirely on

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Svetlana Prokopyeva’s side, and that is exactly

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why they formally convicted her but did not

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dare to punish her with any kind of

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real prison term, because that would have been

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utter, absolute lawlessness

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So, Alexander asks me: if

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multi-day voting is extended

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to elections, how can it be monitored? Well, we’ll

22:28

monitor it the same way, Alexander. You should

22:30

go right now to the Smart Voting website

22:32

I’m in the voting section there right now.

22:33

As of today, an article has appeared there.

22:35

Sign up as an observer, and then you’ll—

22:38

it will be hard for you, hard for us, and hard for everyone

22:41

else too. People will have it hard—three times harder.

22:43

Before, all it took was money.

22:44

Now there will be three days of voting there,

22:47

and there’s no telling what they’ll do, plus it’s unclear

22:49

what will happen overnight. Everything will be very

22:53

difficult. But if you sign up there, we

22:55

will be able to monitor at least something, in any

22:58

case, because there will be some kind of

23:00

formal procedure, some kind of control

23:01

over the number of ballots—well, that is,

23:04

we’ll have to improvise.

23:05

You have to understand that under the chosen

23:09

procedure, elections in our country will go

23:12

completely off the rails, because Putin and United Russia

23:16

simply have no other way to win.

23:18

They understand that very well.

23:22

That’s why they will keep making elections

23:26

worse and worse. But as you can see from

23:29

the examples of Moscow and St. Petersburg,

23:31

we can still beat them, because the most

23:33

important thing is this:

23:34

people aren’t voting for us—they are voting

23:36

for themselves, and therefore against United Russia, which

23:38

suits us perfectly. So we will

23:40

monitor things—well, we will

23:42

monitor, we will work on it, and

23:44

most importantly, we need to take to the streets

23:47

if we are monitoring and see that they

23:51

have rigged things.

23:51

Without that, nothing will ever work. 56

23:55

thousand people are watching us

23:58

live. A question from STREST:

24:03

“Olja, what is the point of this? Am I understanding something incorrectly?”

24:05

This is about the amendments—there is a provision here

24:07

on borders. According to the amendment to the law on

24:08

countering extremism, officials

24:10

will be able to transfer state

24:11

territory of Russia to other states. But

24:13

the real issue is this: they were running around

24:16

with these constitutional amendments

24:18

shouting that now, under the new Constitution,

24:21

no one would be able to give away part of Russian

24:24

territory, because that is

24:25

forbidden. But there is a little caveat there, because

24:28

it is forbidden

24:29

except under interstate

24:31

agreements. Because in reality,

24:33

the main person

24:33

who has been giving away Russian lands

24:35

in recent years is Putin, who

24:38

handed over territory to China.

24:40

He gave islands to China. But when this

24:42

is done, you can give away Russian

24:44

territories, but within the framework of inter-

24:46

state agreements. But if you

24:47

simply say, “Let’s give the islands

24:50

on the Amur River to China,” criminal charges

24:52

could be brought against you.

24:53

And then Putin comes along and says, “Let’s

24:55

give the islands on the Amur to China,” and he gives

24:58

those islands away, and nothing happens to Putin

25:00

because, well, that’s the kind of Constitution it is.

25:02

As for coronavirus news, the situation is developing

25:06

in such a way that by now it is

25:09

almost—well, no, it is still

25:10

being discussed in the media, but it seems like

25:13

less and less. Everyone is tired of the topic, which I

25:17

have said repeatedly on broadcasts. And

25:18

in general, this week I flew twice

25:21

by plane, and you can clearly see

25:23

people’s fatigue and irritation with the very

25:26

topic itself, with all these

25:28

mask rules. You walk into the airport,

25:31

and there is this typically

25:33

Russian absurdity in security procedures:

25:35

you can’t get past the first checkpoint

25:37

without a mask, so you put one on.

25:39

Then as soon as you get through,

25:41

everyone immediately takes them off in irritation

25:44

and walks around without masks. Nevertheless,

25:47

the authorities as a whole strongly support

25:52

the idea that there is no more coronavirus,

25:54

but the objective data that

25:57

is now, of course, coming in from

25:58

across the country shows that right now

26:00

things are very bad and everything is trending upward. Our

26:04

authorities, of course, have found

26:06

the one possible, utterly “brilliant”

26:08

way to improve the situation—

26:11

or rather, the coronavirus statistics. This

26:14

week they fired a well-known

26:15

demographer named Alexei Raksha. This

26:18

caused a minor scandal, and it is

26:20

very important, because he was not

26:22

just some person, you know, sitting on the

26:25

internet counting things and

26:27

convincingly using numbers to prove that

26:30

all the coronavirus statistics

26:32

are fake, like Leonid Volkov, for example.

26:34

He does that too, relying on official

26:36

data to show that all of it is lies. But this

26:39

was Alexei Raksha—he worked as an adviser

26:41

to Rosstat (Russia’s federal statistics agency), so he was an official

26:45

person who, relying on the real

26:48

data available in Rosstat,

26:51

consistently proved that this whole

26:54

situation, all the Russian coronavirus

26:56

statistics, was absolutely fabricated,

26:59

that it was all a complete lie.

27:01

But several of his interviews caused

27:03

serious dissatisfaction among the official

27:06

authorities, and it all ended with

27:08

him simply being dismissed. He wrote about it

27:10

on Facebook.

27:12

And he wrote officially: “My work at

27:14

Rosstat has come to an end.”

27:16

“The idea was neither mine nor Rosstat’s.”

27:18

That wording makes it clear that

27:20

this was not, even for a moment,

27:23

Rosstat’s initiative—

27:25

rather, of course,

27:27

it was obviously an initiative from the Kremlin, which

27:29

needs to prove, especially now,

27:31

that the coronavirus is practically gone and no longer a problem.

27:34

the nationwide vote, some parades

27:36

doesn’t affect anything at all, and

27:39

at the same time

27:40

a person comes in—a person from Rosstat (Russia’s federal statistics agency), that is

27:44

and says, you know, right now in

27:46

Russia, it’s not 11,000 deaths

27:48

as in the official figures, but between 30,000 and 40,000

27:52

thousand. Read it—I highly recommend it. There was an

27:55

interview with him, with Alexei Raksha

27:58

—Raksha, I suppose the surname declines—in Radio Svoboda (Radio Liberty)

28:03

I really recommend reading it

28:05

it’s a very informative interview, especially

28:07

from the point of view of statistics in the Caucasus

28:11

he talks quite interestingly there about

28:14

the fact that, first of all, the statistics are completely

28:16

falsified; the spread is such that we don’t understand

28:19

whether 30,000 people died or 40

28:21

thousand people died, because in the

28:23

Caucasus there are basically no statistics at all, but

28:24

as for the official statistics, again

28:28

please show that quote

28:30

from the official Stop Coronavirus website, here

28:33

he says outright that all this

28:36

statistics on the state-run website

28:38

Stop Coronavirus are made up

28:41

fake, adjusted, tidied up

28:44

trimmed down

28:45

well, and manually engineered, controlled—in other words, once

28:47

again, this is a person who worked at Rosstat

28:50

and dealt with all this data, and relying on

28:54

the real Rosstat data, he says

28:56

that the authorities are lying, and that is of course

29:00

the most important thing that every

29:02

person should understand right now: that

29:07

600 people a day are dying now

29:10

hospitals in the regions are completely full

29:12

they simply aren’t making the diagnosis

29:16

testing for coronavirus has practically

29:18

stopped, because the more

29:20

you test, the more cases you find

29:22

and there mustn’t be any cases

29:24

because, as we know, Putin has

29:26

defeated the coronavirus, and the nationwide

29:28

vote was held in a situation

29:30

where there was supposedly almost no coronavirus, so despite

29:33

our general exhaustion from everything that

29:35

is happening, still, take care of yourselves

29:38

take care of your elderly relatives

29:40

An interesting

29:41

thing happened here with the

29:44

statistics—this is also about the coronavirus

29:46

remember there was a rather scandalous

29:47

episode, and I talked about it here, when

29:50

the governor of Lipetsk Region, whose surname is

29:52

Artamonov—I talk about him often, a very

29:55

stupid governor who really likes talking

29:58

all kinds of nonsense—and in particular he

30:00

got caught when he was talking on the phone and

30:04

was directly giving instructions about

30:07

how the coronavirus statistics needed to be falsified

30:09

it was quite a high-profile

30:11

case. Did you play that recording? Let’s

30:14

listen again—28 seconds. Governor Arta...

30:17

and he later confirmed that it was him

30:20

on that recording saying that the statistics needed to be

30:23

falsified. So far I can

30:32

see what he’ll answer as soon as they respond to me

30:35

they reply to me, well, for now they’re giving the data...

30:38

you understand how to change it, why

30:48

won’t you catch on

30:50

[music]

30:56

the governor simply says outright: the numbers

30:59

need to be changed. Then later this

31:00

governor says, yes, actually that was my

31:02

voice, and he confirmed it

31:05

people in Lipetsk, naturally, were outraged

31:07

they filed a complaint with the prosecutor’s office, and then

31:09

a reply came from the prosecutor’s office. The prosecutor’s office

31:10

reports

31:11

you know, we will not conduct

31:14

any investigation, we will do nothing

31:15

because

31:16

it is impossible to identify the persons participating in the

31:19

dialogue. Yes, the governor said

31:22

it was him—well, first of all, it’s obvious that

31:24

it was him, and second, he confirmed that it was

31:27

but for the prosecutor’s office it is apparently impossible

31:30

to identify that, so there will be no

31:32

investigation. Again, right before everyone’s eyes

31:33

before an astonished public

31:36

there occurs this situation where

31:40

the prosecutor’s office, the body responsible for overseeing

31:43

legality, ignores that legality

31:47

to an even greater extent than that crook

31:49

that governor. At least he had enough

31:52

courage to say, yes, I said it on the

31:55

phone, while the prosecutor’s office says, no, it

31:56

wasn’t him. And that’s simply to say that

31:58

what is happening now—Dr. Roshal has simply

32:02

performed in a truly remarkable way. He

32:04

still remains for us Leonid Roshal, our

32:06

doctor, lodged there in the boarding house of saints

32:13

—that is, a person who simply

32:15

consistently speaks in support of this government

32:18

always one of Putin’s trusted representatives

32:20

constantly backing any lie

32:23

of Putin’s. In fairness, it should be said

32:24

that he does sometimes speak up for doctors

32:26

but mainly, of course, he goes all in

32:29

for this government and always sticks to

32:32

the government line

32:33

but this children’s doctor Roshal, supposedly, he

32:35

is still treated as sacred—you’re not supposed to criticize him

32:37

but in that sense, as you know,

32:40

I don’t recognize such authorities or idols

32:42

Roshal included, and I too will say

32:44

everything plainly. And this week he of course came out

32:46

as simply a model

32:49

hypocrite without a shred of conscience—he wrote a tweet

32:53

and, in heartrending fashion, decided to address everyone

32:55

like a kind doctor. So, the tweet says

32:58

July 5: My dear friends,

33:01

don’t be fools, keep wearing them on the street

33:04

on public transport and in public places—wear

33:05

masks

33:06

nothing is over yet. On the streets of Moscow

33:09

there are crowds of people who don’t understand that if

33:12

the number of infections rises, and so on and so forth

33:14

For the deaths, you’ll blame the mayor,

33:16

the government, and the president — but not yourselves.

33:21

How interesting: dear Dr. Roshal is once again

33:25

saying that Muscovites are to blame because they don’t

33:27

follow any rules, and then he’ll go on blaming

33:30

the president and the mayor — but not himself, of course.

33:33

The doctor, practically jumping out of his white coat and

33:36

his pants, wants to defend the mayor and

33:39

the president, because Muscovites aren’t wearing

33:41

masks.

33:42

And then, supposedly, they’ll wake up — but it will already

33:45

be too late. What was Dr. Roshal telling us on March 3?

33:50

Roshal, in a 28-second clip, called for punishing people

33:54

for spreading panic: “There’s nothing like that, nothing at all.”

33:58

“Live calmly and work calmly.”

34:02

What is happening now, according to these gentlemen,

34:06

about this

34:07

or about the coronavirus, is in fact not

34:10

much scarier than the flu, from which

34:16

people die

34:17

in even greater numbers.

34:19

That is, on March 3, when it was necessary

34:24

to introduce quarantine in Europe — and it was already

34:26

everywhere there — it was still possible to take

34:29

some measures, and the numbers of infected and dead

34:31

were much lower. Dr. Roshal

34:32

was calling, you understand, for “panic-mongers” to be punished.

34:36

Here is his tweet: “Nothing has ended; on

34:38

the streets of Moscow there are crowds,” and so on. “People need

34:40

to wear masks” — which, according to him, was basically

34:42

panic-mongering. That was March 3.

34:44

Dr. Roshal’s March 3 version was that

34:46

such people should be punished. On March 23, he

34:49

was telling us that all this was not at all

34:51

more dangerous than other illnesses. In a 30-second clip:

34:54

“There’s no need to fear it or whip up

35:02

such

35:03

a nervous atmosphere among the people, because if

35:07

you look at it, the contagiousness

35:11

of this virus is in many ways lower than

35:13

the contagiousness of others, and mortality from

35:17

this virus is much lower than from many

35:20

other viral infections.”

35:23

But now Dr. Roshal

35:27

is twisting himself in midair, bending over backwards

35:30

as much as possible in order to

35:32

protect

35:32

the mayor and the president, and once again blame

35:35

Muscovites. I mean, maybe he is, of course,

35:36

a good doctor,

35:37

but as a person he is genuinely without a conscience,

35:40

really — just

35:41

a shameless person.

35:42

A shameless person can probably

35:44

treat children too, and he specifically does — but still,

35:47

this is Dr. Roshal, and of course

35:49

the absence of his conscience is probably best

35:53

confirmed by the fact that he is

35:54

constantly a trusted representative for Putin

35:57

and Sobyanin, and all the rest. One might at least feel

35:59

a little ashamed. After all, on television he was

36:01

recently saying that all this was nonsense, that there was no

36:03

need to panic — and now it’s “Muscovites,”

36:06

“why are you going out without a mask, be

36:09

responsible.”

36:09

Blame the president instead? So all these

36:11

figures the television keeps selling us as

36:15

saints — “don’t you dare criticize them,”

36:17

“he saved so many children,”

36:20

“how can you criticize Dr. Roshal?” No, I

36:23

am not criticizing the children he saved, and the children have nothing

36:26

to do with this. But when this person is absolutely

36:27

hypocritical, lies, and shields the authorities

36:31

who are killing people, including through their own

36:33

irresponsible behavior, then of course we need

36:35

to say everything we think needs to be said.

36:36

So Dr. Roshal himself should go

36:39

and treat children, if he is still capable of

36:41

treating children, instead of going on talk shows and

36:43

wagging his tongue, because what he

36:46

is doing is simply disgusting, just

36:47

disgusting. I’m really

36:49

worked up about Dr. Roshal, because

36:52

it’s just impossible,

36:54

simply impossible to watch. Especially when he

36:56

puts on that white coat and says

36:58

he is speaking on behalf of the medical community.

37:00

He is simply, simply lying and being hypocritical. So,

37:02

questions.

37:05

A sensible person asks: have I heard about Roman Putin and

37:07

his current push

37:09

into politics? Of course I have.

37:11

I commented on it in the previous

37:12

program. I think this is, or rather

37:16

most likely, Roman Putin’s own initiative — Putin’s nephew.

37:19

As for everyone else, how are they supposed to

37:21

stop him? I mean, in principle, if

37:22

Roman Putin is Roman Putin — he is

37:24

a relative — and tomorrow he starts doing

37:26

more or less whatever he wants, then how are they supposed to

37:28

stop him? Who can? People from the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) or

37:31

from any other body can call

37:34

Putin and say, “Excuse me, Vladimir Vladimirovich,

37:36

your Roma is acting up — did you

37:38

approve this or not?” In the current system

37:40

of power, there is no way to find that out.

37:42

So just in case, Roman Putin will

37:46

more or less be allowed the same thing — that is,

37:49

he’ll be allowed almost anything. Almette Amir

37:51

asks me whether I knew about Putin’s nephew.

37:53

It’s the same story. Kalashnikov EMS:

37:57

“Please comment on the documentary about

37:59

... please — I haven’t seen it. I know

38:01

that it’s a high-profile film about the rights

38:03

of homosexuals in Chechnya, but I haven’t seen it, so

38:05

I’m not prepared to comment on it.

38:09

There are a lot of questions about the rainbow,

38:12

about the rainbow, and this is not entertainment.

38:17

Of course, as a news story it was entertaining in its own way;

38:19

everyone listened, everyone laughed, and Twitter was full

38:22

of jokes on the subject. But this is an extremely important

38:27

news story, because it shows that the authorities

38:30

are degrading not along some smooth,

38:33

gradual downward line, slowly hitting bottom,

38:36

but rather

38:37

in these sudden lurches downward, and

38:39

of course this whole rainbow issue

38:43

shows exactly that kind of plunge downward.

38:45

because it’s a little closer to the bottom

38:47

Why? Because this whole adoption of

38:51

the Constitution, and one of its main

38:54

features, one of the main driving forces

38:56

behind Putin’s whole falsification here

38:59

was precisely the theme of some kind of strong family

39:01

What’s especially funny about this is that the entire

39:05

leadership of the Russian authorities

39:07

well, there are loads of divorced people there; in our country

39:10

every second marriage falls apart, and that’s not

39:11

a tragedy—well, it didn’t work out, it just didn’t

39:14

for some people family life works out, and for

39:16

others it doesn’t

39:17

that happens. But there, people have started second

39:20

families, some have a bunch of children born out of wedlock, and

39:24

let’s be frank, everything we see in the

39:27

private lives of Russian officials

39:30

differs very, very sharply from the

39:33

idea of a traditional strong family. But

39:35

all the same, it is this “strong family” that is supposedly

39:37

going to teach us how to become solid

39:41

family people, and all of this is very skillfully

39:43

mixed in with the claim that they are

39:46

fighting “perversions,” homosexuality

39:49

— homosexuals, gays

39:51

and everyone else as well

39:54

what they call Western

39:56

perversions. And it’s clear why this

40:00

is being done: if we conduct any poll, we’ll

40:03

see that in our society there is

40:05

a negative attitude toward any manifestations

40:07

of homosexuality, and they are simply trying

40:11

to extract the maximum

40:13

political dividends from it. But it no longer

40:17

works only in that way, where

40:19

there are, as is well known, a certain number

40:22

indeed a huge number of high-status

40:24

homosexuals within the Russian authorities

40:26

who use

40:27

anti-gay hysteria in order

40:30

to strengthen their own hold on power. There are also

40:32

a lot of people lower down who are simply nuts

40:37

and in the example of

40:38

Yekaterina Lakhova and representatives of the

40:41

Women of Russia Union, we see representatives

40:43

of a genuinely deranged establishment who

40:46

also want to get some

40:49

political dividends out of this, and Putin

40:52

goes along with it because he can no longer

40:54

backtrack—after all, he already said he was the main

40:57

fighter against homosexuality, against this

40:59

“perversion” that supposedly prevents

41:02

our traditional families from flourishing, and so he

41:04

is forced to humor people who are genuinely crazy, and

41:07

Ms. Lakhova, of course, is simply

41:10

a madwoman—read her biography

41:13

you’ll be amazed. This madwoman also came out

41:16

against Rainbow ice cream

41:19

Let’s listen to a 47-second

41:23

episode that ought to remain in the

41:27

history of Russian politics, because

41:29

a crazy woman, calling things by their proper names,

41:31

spouts nonsense, and after this nonsense Putin

41:34

says the issue needs to be taken under

41:36

control. Let’s listen: “After all, they gave a platform

41:39

to Roskomnadzor (Russia’s media and communications regulator) and said that propaganda

41:42

— that there must be no propaganda here. But

41:46

today, for example, on billboards

41:48

they put up

41:49

these rainbow, beautiful colors—it seems

41:52

subtle, with nice words—or

41:55

they advertise ice cream that is also

41:57

called Rainbow, and so on: consume

42:00

this ice cream, and so forth. In this, it is

42:02

indirect, but it still makes

42:04

our children get used to that color, to that

42:08

symbol which is, generally speaking, displayed

42:10

including at the U.S. embassy

42:13

Therefore, I would very much like

42:15

the values that we tried

42:18

to enshrine in our Constitution to be

42:20

kept under control. We had a couple of

42:22

actual instructions issued on the ground…”

42:25

And after that, Putin took all of this under

42:28

control and said the issue required

42:30

monitoring. So this wasn’t just

42:32

empty talk—actually, following the

42:34

meeting, at the suggestion of Comrade

42:37

Lakhova, a proposal was made to check—I don’t

42:40

know whether by Roskomnadzor or someone else—whether

42:42

a rainbow on ice cream might be something

42:46

that violates the principles

42:48

enshrined in the Constitution, and whether this

42:51

ice cream turns children into

42:53

homosexuals. And of course everyone laughs at this

42:57

and you’re smirking right now, and some people

43:00

are tapping their temple, but this is real, and

43:02

the instruction was actually issued, because deputy

43:05

Lakhova is called crazy—and the crazy ones

43:08

have been sitting in this vertical of power for a very long time

43:12

Go to her Wikipedia page right now

43:14

and you’ll plainly see 30 years

43:18

of idleness. She’s been serving as a deputy since 1990

43:21

— a People’s Deputy of the USSR

43:24

then, accordingly, she was

43:26

a Communist, then she ran over to

43:28

Luzhkov’s Fatherland party, then United Russia, and

43:33

so on and so forth. In other words, she’s spent 30 years

43:37

sitting in power doing nothing—an idler

43:40

an idler, but one who understands how everything works

43:43

You have to say: ‘Vladimir Vladimirovich,

43:46

issue an instruction, because this violates the

43:48

values we have just enshrined

43:51

in the Constitution.’ All of this is framed in such

43:55

a way that you can’t really say, well, people like

43:57

Lakhova—are you kidding? I mean,

44:01

you can’t just say she’s completely insane

44:04

because you yourself just

44:05

dragged all that into the Constitution, so

44:07

the instruction was given. I can imagine how everyone

44:10

must have been stunned in the Jewish Autonomous

44:12

Oblast (a federal region in Russia’s Far East)

44:13

because let’s take a look at the coat of arms

44:16

of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast—what do we

44:18

see? A rainbow—the very same terrible rainbow

44:22

that supposedly turns everyone into homosexuals

44:25

gay people, or whatever else. And do you know

44:27

what the old badge of the center used to look like?

44:29

the election commission—let's recall it like this.

44:32

This is what the election commission's emblem and central office logo look like, well—

44:35

pull that up. They changed it later, apparently,

44:37

so that people wouldn't, you know, get the wrong idea from it.

44:38

So that wouldn't happen. But the regional

44:40

election commissions have logos too, and

44:43

take Voronezh, for example, and in

44:45

particular, the election commission there has a rainbow.

44:47

It's not on this picture anymore, but here

44:49

it is, please: the Electoral

44:50

Commission of the Voronezh Region—right

44:52

now they still have this ominous rainbow.

44:55

It's really something. And what if children see it

44:58

while walking past a polling station in

45:00

the Voronezh Region?

45:01

Children might see a sign like that—what will happen to them?

45:03

And what if they see the sign first

45:06

at the election commission

45:06

and then eat some ice cream? We'll really have to

45:09

bomb Voronezh after that,

45:11

because of course this is just such a

45:14

complete Sodom. Once upon a time,

45:16

the Lord destroyed Sodom, and Putin, apparently, will have to

45:19

bomb Voronezh, because he

45:20

may—well, maybe not, but we're being told this in all seriousness, one hundred percent,

45:23

in complete seriousness.

45:24

A war on the rainbow is being declared, and there's this

45:26

lady sitting there.

45:27

Just google, out of curiosity, a children's drawing contest.

45:31

I was preparing for today's

45:32

program, and I thought: children's drawing contest, I love that.

45:34

What do we see? Kindness, goodness—we see

45:37

because what does a child draw?

45:40

They draw the sun, they draw their mom,

45:42

they draw little things, and they draw a rainbow,

45:45

because all children draw rainbows. Who

45:48

could ever have imagined that

45:51

something this absurd would actually be said out loud, and that there would be

45:55

an order to put it under strict, ironclad control—

45:58

to monitor depictions of rainbows,

46:00

because they're supposedly against the Constitution. But it

46:03

actually happened. That's why I say this isn't

46:05

a gradual degradation—it's happening in leaps.

46:09

They'll probably, of course, try to hush up

46:12

this whole Lakhova situation (Yekaterina Lakhova, a Russian senator), because

46:15

they understand that it just looks

46:16

ridiculous, and everyone is laughing at them.

46:19

But even so, separately, there's another

46:21

very funny part: the ice cream called Rainbow

46:23

was advertised by—who advertised it?

46:25

Putin's official campaign surrogates.

46:26

Let's take a look at who's advertising

46:29

this dangerous ice cream. It's 40 seconds long, but: what

46:32

is Rainbow? A brightly delicious plombir-style ice cream from

46:40

Chistaya Liniya.

46:41

What is Rainbow? Rainbow is ice cream,

46:45

wickedly tasty ice cream, brightly delicious

46:49

plombir-style ice cream from Chistaya Liniya. Rainbow is

46:52

ice cream that makes you want to sing about it.

46:57

Brightly delicious plombir-style ice cream from Chistaya Liniya.

47:01

Tell me, what is Rainbow? Rainbow is

47:05

bright ice cream.

47:06

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47:08

Brightly delicious plombir-style ice cream from Chistaya Liniya.

47:12

The Zapashny brothers

47:14

—well-known animal trainers, thoroughly pro-Putin,

47:16

the kind you couldn't stamp with enough marks—such

47:18

typical sellout representatives

47:20

of show business, constantly serving as

47:23

Putin's trusted surrogates, constantly fawning over him

47:26

far more than they were fawning over

47:28

this dangerous ice cream in their ads. But

47:31

now they're already forced to write some kind of

47:33

responses there, to make excuses, because

47:36

well, because you have to justify yourself,

47:38

you have to somehow

47:40

explain why this supposedly dangerous

47:42

ice cream

47:43

was being advertised. And it's funny, funny—well, not

47:47

really funny, because it's from little blocks like these

47:49

that state

47:52

ideology gets built. They said it at some official meeting,

47:55

there are instructions now, and I assure you,

47:58

next time any

48:00

I don't know—organization, ice cream company, whatever—

48:03

whatever it may be, they won't

48:06

put a rainbow on their logo purely for

48:10

these reasons. That's exactly how it

48:11

works: on the one hand, everyone laughed,

48:14

but on the other hand, some

48:16

kindergarten called Rainbow, or someone wanting to name

48:18

a club 'Rainbow'—

48:19

someone will say, 'Listen, damn, maybe

48:22

let's not call it Rainbow, to hell with it.'

48:23

'You get mixed up with rainbows even a little bit,

48:25

and there'll be trouble.' That's how it becomes normal. Because

48:28

this is actually being discussed at the

48:30

state level.

48:31

That's exactly how it works: step by

48:33

step, and the rainbow

48:35

will be pushed somewhere—toward the realm

48:37

of marginal symbols. And then

48:40

a rainbow appears in the sky,

48:42

and when a rainbow appears in the sky, instead of

48:45

saying to the person next to you,

48:47

especially to a child, 'Look, a rainbow,

48:49

how beautiful,' now it'll be more like, 'Oh, look, a rainbow—

48:51

heh-heh.'

48:52

Lakhova and Putin don't like it. But that's

48:54

exactly how it works, and how it will keep working

48:56

always, because the state machine

48:59

doesn't go into reverse. It just

49:02

has now reached the point of 'rainbow bad,' and

49:04

it will never go back. And about Lakhova—

49:06

there was another very funny story.

49:08

Do you remember Bondarenko from Saratov (Nikolai Bondarenko, an opposition politician), whom

49:12

I often mention here? He

49:14

once, about a month later, proposed that

49:16

deputies try living

49:17

on 3,500 rubles a month (about 35–40 USD at the time),

49:19

on the subsistence minimum, and that really got under United Russia's skin.

49:23

And Lakhova then

49:24

outraged everyone—she was a senator from

49:27

the Bryansk Region.

49:28

She basically said that people shouldn't

49:31

show off too much, because let's

49:34

remember how people lived during the war, and

49:36

in general, sometimes...

49:38

If someone tells you that you're poor, you want

49:41

to get indignant. "Let's remember the horrors

49:42

of war, and you can eat buckwheat every day

49:46

— that's fine, nothing will happen to you

49:47

— let's eat buckwheat every day."

49:49

That's absurd too, and it was infuriating —

49:52

a completely absurd statement, an attempt

49:55

to prove to poor people that they're not actually

49:56

poor, and that they should compare their

49:59

salary — well, "salary," I don't know — to salaries in Estonia

50:01

or Poland or Moscow? For residents

50:04

of Bryansk Region, they're supposed to compare, I

50:07

don't know, with 1943, with what people

50:09

ate during the war? It's complete nonsense, but

50:12

still, the head of the Union of Women of Russia

50:15

keeps attending Putin's meetings,

50:18

and across this whole area — across the whole

50:21

family-and-children policy track —

50:26

conservative policy is being handled by

50:29

this exact crazy woman who wants

50:32

to ban... This is very important: 69

50:37

thousand people are watching us live

50:39

and asking us what's happening with our

50:42

conscripts. I'll tell you about the military enlistment office.

50:44

I'll explain. Right — a clown asks me:

50:47

"Please comment on the increase

50:49

in housing and utility fees in Moscow and the Moscow

50:51

Region."

50:52

The tsar is taking back the money supposedly given to doctors and

50:54

children. And this isn't happening only in

50:55

Moscow and the Moscow Region.

50:57

Right after this vote, they immediately raised

50:58

utility rates by 4%.

51:00

Well yes, he is taking it back — the tsar, absolutely,

51:03

is taking this money back, and we can see that

51:07

every time after elections, after some

51:09

important event like that, when they

51:13

forced everyone to make a gesture of approval

51:17

toward the authorities, what do they do? Raise taxes.

51:19

Putin won the presidential election

51:22

and immediately raised the retirement age. And now

51:24

they've breathed out, held the vote,

51:28

passed the Constitution amendments, and are starting to raise

51:29

utility rates. Of course, yes — that's what they do.

51:31

They've always done it and always will, and this regime has no

51:34

other way to achieve economic growth —

51:36

or rather,

51:37

no other way to fill

51:39

its budget except by raising taxes and

51:42

further robbing people and businesses.

51:44

They simply don't have any other option. In the end,

51:47

they just can't

51:49

get money in any way except

51:51

by taking it out of your pocket.

51:53

And of course state monopolies, first and foremost

51:55

the housing and utilities sector — or rather, in that

51:57

state, private monopolies too — well, they're

51:59

a sacred cow for them. They'll do

52:00

whatever they want, and they'll keep

52:03

raising taxes, and then they'll keep

52:05

raising them. It's very interesting how the authorities

52:10

are reacting.

52:12

[music]

52:13

are nervous about how this "zeroing out"

52:18

was received. Probably everyone

52:20

would agree that

52:22

Putin, generally speaking, from the standpoint

52:24

of his own goals, did not achieve what he wanted. He wanted

52:26

there to be

52:27

a feeling in society that

52:30

once again, truly, everyone

52:32

came out and voted for Putin, supported Putin —

52:35

a new round of that familiar line:

52:37

"Well yes, of course there was fraud, but

52:39

it's obvious that even in a fair election

52:42

Putin would have won." And now, perhaps

52:45

for the first time, that feeling

52:47

doesn't exist for anyone — and first of all

52:50

Putin himself doesn't have it. On the contrary, there is

52:53

an understanding that many people

52:55

didn't go to the referendum because he would have lost,

52:57

and that they stuffed in so many votes because otherwise he

53:00

would have lost. And there is both irritation and

53:04

among the elite a clear realization that

53:07

the "Putin magic" no longer works, and

53:09

therefore

53:10

it's funny to watch how this whole

53:12

propaganda machine is now trying

53:15

to convince us how the whole

53:18

country is rejoicing over the results of this

53:21

referendum. The best example is, of course,

53:23

the round dance in support of Putin on

53:24

Channel One.

53:26

I'll put it in the corner for you. They showed how

53:29

residents of Yakutia (Sakha Republic) literally formed a round dance

53:32

in support of Putin, a round dance in support

53:35

of adopting the Constitution. Twelve seconds, in the corner.

53:38

Nearly a dozen and a half regions

53:40

supported the amendment on protecting the cultural

53:42

identity of all peoples. Residents of Yakutia

53:44

staged a round dance whose scale is best

53:47

appreciated in footage shot by

53:49

a drone.

53:51

See how wonderfully the residents of

53:54

Yakutia are celebrating? But here's what's important:

53:58

there was a bit of sleight of hand here, because in Yakutia

54:01

the vote actually went rather badly for them, and the mayor

54:03

of Yakutsk, Sardana

54:07

Avksentyeva — I hope I'm pronouncing

54:09

her name and patronymic correctly — she

54:12

even publicly posted her ballot

54:15

showing that she had voted against it. So even there,

54:18

in Yakutia itself, residents supposedly

54:21

came out and started dancing in circles — except

54:23

it turned out that all this footage was from 2017.

54:26

That is, they really — can you imagine? —

54:28

took an old recording and started airing it on

54:31

Channel One, saying that this was

54:33

the rejoicing of Yakutia's residents over

54:37

the adoption of the Constitution.

54:38

Twenty-three seconds of how this report

54:40

was shown back in 2017.

54:45

[music]

54:51

[music]

54:54

[applause]

54:55

[music]

55:08

They absolutely, desperately needed to show exactly this,

55:10

and the captions were basically saying: yes, that's the translation.

55:12

Long live—it's all just shouting, yes.

55:14

"Long live Vladimir Putin," but who there

55:15

can translate it?

55:16

The seventeenth year, a national holiday.

55:19

A dance at the national—at this, at this.

55:22

At this celebration, and now they are presenting it

55:24

as joy and support for Putin, because

55:26

they want to show that—but there is no

55:29

joy at all, and there is no sense in

55:33

society of it, and so they are trying to prove to society

55:35

that, guys, don't believe what

55:38

it seems to you—actually, the whole

55:40

country is incredibly happy. Just look at

55:42

Yakutia, and of course, well, that's at least the basic

55:48

foundation of this whole thing, and elsewhere it is already quite

55:52

virtuosic. And of course, this was explained to us

55:55

by the well-known TV host and State Duma deputy

55:58

who used to be a television presenter,

55:59

Pyotr Tolstoy. Because, fine, you can

56:03

show old video footage and lie outright

56:06

that these people are rejoicing because of

56:08

Putin, but Tolstoy went so far as to reach, well,

56:11

that stage we had, after all, been waiting for—

56:12

when they would say to us directly that people

56:15

died in the war 75 years ago so that

56:18

Putin could now pass his amendments.

56:21

Tolstoy did, after all, do it, because, well,

56:23

go ask—they died there,

56:25

speaking at the opening of the memorial, and you could just hear it—

56:29

Tolstoy came out and flat-out

56:31

said that back then they were dying so that

56:33

the people of Russia could now

56:36

adopt the Constitution and the amendments

56:38

they supposedly want to adopt. Let's

56:41

listen to a minute and a half

56:44

of a story about Soviet soldiers who

56:46

were dying for Putin in 1943.

56:49

You know, the president, against the backdrop of this

56:53

majestic monument, said

56:56

important words about the uniqueness of our

56:58

civilization and about the sovereignty of our

57:00

country. One million three hundred thousand people who

57:04

died gave their lives for the freedom

57:06

of our homeland long ago. They did it

57:12

so that the next generation would have

57:15

the freedom to choose the path along which

57:17

the country would go.

57:18

They tried to deprive us of that freedom; they tried

57:21

to impose

57:22

foreign values on us in the 1990s, and in many ways

57:26

even today most of our elite lives

57:28

by clichés that were formed

57:31

20 or 30 years ago.

57:33

A new Constitution

57:36

and the amendments to the Constitution make this

57:38

document absolutely fundamental and

57:41

new. This is a new step in the development of our

57:43

country; it is an opportunity for Russia

57:47

to go its own way. It is the enshrinement in

57:51

the country's basic law of those principles, those

57:56

values for which, properly speaking,

57:57

our ancestors gave their lives. Before these

58:01

amendments,

58:01

our basic law had a kind of

58:04

half-measure character; it had neither

58:07

a national idea nor a national spirit

58:09

that is inherent to our country and without

58:11

which Russia cannot develop.

58:13

That is precisely why the president spoke about

58:16

our unique civilization and about how important

58:18

sovereignty is for us—the sovereignty for which

58:20

those who died near Rzhev gave their lives.

58:24

Just an absolutely incredible line

58:26

of reasoning. Did you notice that

58:28

of course our Constitution was bad,

58:30

half-baked—you lived under it for 20 years, for 20

58:34

years Putin ruled under it, under this

58:37

Constitution. Under it he took power from Yeltsin

58:39

and the Yeltsin "family" (his inner circle), and ruled by it for 20 years,

58:42

and now it turns out that only now, finally,

58:46

what people died for

58:49

near Rzhev has been realized. It's just a complete,

58:52

absolute triumph of hypocrisy and brazenness.

58:54

They stand there with brazen faces—every second one has an account in

58:58

a Western bank, every third one has

59:00

property abroad, yet they stand there

59:03

practically swelling with their own

59:05

nobility and say that near Rzhev

59:07

people died so that they could defend here

59:10

our sovereignty. What

59:12

sovereignty? Your sovereignty is on Lake Como

59:15

that's where your sovereignty is. But I get

59:17

asked—and Gref, Alexei, asks: "So, Alexei,

59:20

you've been fighting the regime..." It kind of strikes me.

59:21

Igor asks: "Alexei, you've been dealing with

59:24

the regime for more than 10 years—compare what it was like then and how

59:26

they are now, how it happened that it turned out this way."

59:28

It's not exactly that I've been fighting the regime for 10 years, but

59:32

rather that I simply live my life,

59:34

a normal life, and within that normal

59:37

life I don't like what

59:39

is happening, and I do everything possible

59:42

to say, first, to those in power that I

59:45

do not like what they are doing, and second,

59:46

to organize people around me for

59:49

the struggle against this government. So you could say

59:52

that in this way I am fighting the regime. I

59:54

just see it this way: I simply

59:56

live the life of a normal person. But

59:59

Igor noted something absolutely correctly:

1:00:00

they've become unbelievably deranged. It was impossible

1:00:02

to imagine 10 years ago that a

1:00:05

United Russia member would come out and say that people died near

1:00:07

Rzhev so that Putin could make

1:00:09

his amendments. Years ago, for something like that,

1:00:11

someone might have gotten punched in the face. Now it's

1:00:13

normal. Well, because what else

1:00:17

are they supposed to say to strengthen their

1:00:19

power? It's like drug addiction—you need an ever

1:00:21

bigger and bigger dose, more and more

1:00:24

pathos. They need something—before, they

1:00:27

could say that Putin

1:00:29

—I don't know—saved Russia from hunger; then

1:00:32

they said that Putin saved Russia from

1:00:34

collapse; and then they said that Putin

1:00:36

is saving Russia from a hostile external

1:00:41

environment. Now they have to say

1:00:43

that Putin is doing this because

1:00:45

Soldiers were dying, and that was exactly what it was for.

1:00:48

Otherwise it doesn't work — only upward.

1:00:50

The degradation happens in these sudden jumps.

1:00:52

Downward, while Euronews-style pomposity is tied up with all of this.

1:00:56

the pompousness of the lies

1:00:57

it only keeps growing, and that is very

1:01:01

it is very noticeable, and it will keep increasing further

1:01:02

it will intensify, but besides that they are frantically

1:01:05

Why? Because by now even those people

1:01:10

who used to be pointedly

1:01:12

apolitical,

1:01:14

not anymore — now they are simply talking about it.

1:01:18

And they talk about it in a very, very telling way.

1:01:20

There is this famous blogger, +100500,

1:01:22

Maxim Golopolosov.

1:01:23

You all know him, of course — one of the most

1:01:25

well-known video bloggers on YouTube.

1:01:27

In his latest episode, what does he talk about?

1:01:29

Funny videos and so on, but he talks

1:01:32

about the vote, and he says, understanding that

1:01:36

this topic is funnier,

1:01:39

more absurd, and somehow more

1:01:42

provocatively attention-grabbing than, say,

1:01:45

I don't know, photos of cats or funny

1:01:47

videos of men falling over, because

1:01:49

what Panfilova did is far

1:01:52

funnier than photos of drunk men falling

1:01:55

over. One minute of +100500 talks about it.

1:01:58

+100500 talks about the “reset.” Hey there,

1:02:01

people — so, Putin drank an elixir

1:02:03

of renewal in the form of constitutional amendments,

1:02:04

the vote on which concluded

1:02:06

this week, and without any difficulty

1:02:08

he reset himself with a result of almost 78

1:02:11

percent in favor

1:02:12

and 22 against, according to data as of July 2.

1:02:15

All right, and in my view, being surprised by such

1:02:17

triumphant numbers is altogether

1:02:18

pointless, considering the week

1:02:20

of early voting, the lack

1:02:22

of proper oversight, and all this

1:02:24

abundance and variety of all kinds

1:02:25

of polling-station options. This whole

1:02:28

thing with the polling stations, by the way, absolutely

1:02:29

killed me: on a tree stump, on a

1:02:31

rock, on a bench, and in a tent,

1:02:33

after getting past two mini-bosses first — you could even

1:02:35

vote out in an open field, and

1:02:37

next door by a combine harvester.

1:02:39

And also on a bus, in a car trunk,

1:02:41

on a car hood, on another tree stump, well,

1:02:43

and on a sports ground.

1:02:46

In short, our turbo-managers

1:02:49

decided not to bother at all with making it

1:02:50

look even remotely

1:02:52

decent or reasonable.

1:02:55

Well, as the amendments were, so was the voting.

1:02:59

Basically, nothing new. And this is very, very

1:03:03

revealing: people who

1:03:05

had never talked about politics at all

1:03:08

started talking about it. And all these Petrs

1:03:10

and Tolstys and everyone else — they

1:03:12

feel it too. I don't know, their children

1:03:14

are watching it,

1:03:15

or their grandchildren are watching, and they look and think,

1:03:18

“Kolya (a diminutive of Nikolai),”

1:03:18

“what are you watching on YouTube — jokes and funny clips?

1:03:20

Let me watch these funny clips with you.”

1:03:22

And there they are being told that, basically,

1:03:24

our hapless rulers — what kind of constitution,

1:03:26

such a reset. Of course they are going crazy

1:03:29

because of this, and that is why they keep

1:03:31

convincing each other.

1:03:33

And they are trying to convince us that all of this

1:03:35

was just great. They are spending

1:03:37

absolutely colossal amounts of money on it.

1:03:40

In the previous program, I think,

1:03:43

I showed a video by Dud (Yury Dud), who

1:03:45

said he had been offered 7 million

1:03:47

rubles (about 70,000-80,000 USD) to run ads for the amendments

1:03:49

to the Constitution, and many wrote that all this

1:03:51

was nonsense. But this week Morgenshtern

1:03:52

also came out and said that he

1:03:54

had been offered 10 million rubles (about 100,000-115,000 USD) for the constitutional

1:03:57

amendments. Let's listen to 20 seconds.

1:03:59

Recently I got a request

1:04:02

to advertise these amendments to

1:04:04

the Constitution, and they attached 10 million.

1:04:09

“Did you agree?” “Of course not.” Good for him.

1:04:12

You know, on Instagram you actually

1:04:16

turned it down, because just look at how much

1:04:19

they are willing to spend.

1:04:22

Yes, we did exactly the same thing

1:04:25

when we saw how much they were willing to spend.

1:04:27

So of course they were offering 7,

1:04:29

10 million, 20 million — however much Buzova

1:04:32

was paid, I don't know, and everyone else too.

1:04:34

They are ready to spend enormous

1:04:37

amounts of money on this, but people still understand everything anyway.

1:04:40

When they read that this is a paid

1:04:42

sponsored post by Buzova, Borodina, and all

1:04:44

those people — that whole Instagram crowd

1:04:47

who will write about anything for money — it still

1:04:49

only creates an even stronger sense

1:04:52

that all of this was fake and rigged.

1:04:55

That is exactly why this week they were really

1:04:57

firing from all guns with stories about how

1:05:01

everyone was rejoicing — starting with this sticky

1:05:03

round dance of enthusiasm and ending with the absolutely splendid

1:05:06

dialogue between Putin and

1:05:09

Panfilova, where it was just...

1:05:11

I even posted a clip of it on my Instagram

1:05:13

because what a duet, what

1:05:16

perfectly synchronized work.

1:05:18

They were literally telling each other

1:05:22

— they understand everything, but in public

1:05:25

they say how wonderful it all was.

1:05:26

“Take note: there were no violations at all,”

1:05:29

“all the observers said it was very

1:05:31

good.” “Yes, yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich,”

1:05:33

“this was an example, really, a concentration

1:05:36

of democracy.” Why are they doing this? Because

1:05:39

they can feel that everyone is laughing at

1:05:44

this, at what happened, and they

1:05:45

— you know, everyone is laughing, and so they have

1:05:48

this staged dialogue, like,

1:05:52

“we don't know what you're all muttering there,”

1:05:54

“just listen, listen to what we are saying.”

1:05:56

So convincingly put, and therefore, believe me.

1:05:59

A little bit for us.

1:06:00

At 54 seconds, it's just magnificent.

1:06:03

the synchronized work of two hypocritical

1:06:05

crooks, watching how it was organized

1:06:09

was.

1:06:09

It was organized

1:06:11

in a modern way, properly, at

1:06:13

a high level, creating opportunities for

1:06:17

people to state their position openly

1:06:20

on the constitutional amendments in the highest

1:06:25

degree of democracy; everything was

1:06:27

organized, and as I understand it, with

1:06:29

a minimal number of violations. In

1:06:31

any case, observers say so,

1:06:33

and media representatives as well, and with

1:06:36

them it was necessary to work accordingly.

1:06:37

The voting itself

1:06:40

took place absolutely

1:06:43

freely, with unprecedented openness and

1:06:45

transparency, and so one must say

1:06:49

that the nationwide vote

1:06:52

became, in general, a concentrated

1:06:54

expression of direct democracy.

1:06:57

Concentrated—I insist on that.

1:06:59

Direct democracy—will anyone

1:07:01

argue with that? Yes, I'm ready to argue with you.

1:07:04

Pretty much everyone. And, in fact, what

1:07:07

you're doing—breaking up this little

1:07:09

comedy—

1:07:10

perfectly shows just how insecure they all are there.

1:07:12

Insecure, but this whole sort of

1:07:14

"concentrated, concentrated"

1:07:17

"I insist on it." Today, Meduza (an independent Russian media outlet)

1:07:19

published an excellent, actually

1:07:21

investigation into how

1:07:22

electronic voting went. Well, there

1:07:24

first of all, openly, just publicly,

1:07:27

1.5 million—one and a half million—

1:07:29

sets of passport data of all those

1:07:32

people who took part in

1:07:33

electronic voting. There were tens

1:07:36

of thousands

1:07:36

of already invalid passports, and some

1:07:39

people participated using old passport data

1:07:41

in that vote. That is, it's a complete

1:07:44

fake, a forgery. That is, they

1:07:45

organized the voting, including

1:07:48

using outdated passport data. This is

1:07:51

simply a completely fabricated thing, and

1:07:53

well, they understand that everyone knows all this, and

1:07:55

that's why they especially emphasize

1:07:58

"concentrated, concentrated" and all that.

1:08:00

Go read it, it's a very good

1:08:02

article by Meduza.

1:08:03

At the same time, though,

1:08:06

the minimal number of recorded

1:08:08

violations happened because there simply

1:08:12

weren't these

1:08:13

observers. But where there still

1:08:16

was some blatant violation,

1:08:18

there, of course, these violators

1:08:21

were met with serious punishment. Did you see

1:08:23

that great video where

1:08:26

the chairwoman of the election commission

1:08:28

—her name was Zoya, I think—just, well,

1:08:30

this clever woman walked right into the camera's view.

1:08:33

There were hardly any cameras, but she came up and pulled out

1:08:35

from under her blouse a stack

1:08:38

of ballots and started feeding them into

1:08:42

the voting machine. Let's watch.

1:08:45

She was stuffing ballots for 40 seconds.

1:08:47

Another woman was sitting by the monitor.

1:08:53

She put down her pen, stood up, and took her place.

1:09:01

The chairwoman came over, she goes and

1:09:06

then that other woman stood up and

1:09:09

pulled them out—there, you can see it—and

1:09:12

kept feeding them in.

1:09:29

What a marvelous little trick.

1:09:32

And the punishment, of course, was truly severe:

1:09:35

she was dismissed—that is,

1:09:37

well, not exactly fired, since where could they fire her from,

1:09:40

but she was removed from the post of chair

1:09:43

of the election commission. Well, probably

1:09:45

a person who was literally caught on video

1:09:48

pulling ballots out from under a sweater

1:09:50

and stuffing them into a ballot box should not

1:09:52

be the chair of an election

1:09:54

commission. But she was removed only from that

1:09:56

position—no criminal case, nothing.

1:09:58

Why? Because this is exactly what I was talking about

1:10:01

when I was proving to everyone that this

1:10:04

vote was completely fake, because

1:10:07

you can't prosecute her—on what grounds? In this

1:10:09

vote there were absolutely no rules

1:10:12

at all. And so this whole hysteria now,

1:10:15

these desperate attempts to prove to themselves

1:10:19

that people liked it,

1:10:22

are just extremely noticeable.

1:10:24

Nilov is absolutely right. I

1:10:28

heard him talk about this, and now many people

1:10:29

are writing about how this ferocity

1:10:32

of the authorities that we've seen over the last

1:10:34

week is, of course, connected with the fact that

1:10:36

things turned out not at all

1:10:39

as they had planned—really not at all.

1:10:41

That is, from the point of view of achieving

1:10:43

the formal result,

1:10:45

well yes, it was clear there would be

1:10:47

a result—they'd simply fabricate it and say,

1:10:49

"the amendments have been adopted."

1:10:49

They had effectively been adopted even before that, but of course

1:10:53

they wanted once again to crush us with

1:10:57

a demonstration that the masses of people

1:10:59

were flocking to polling stations and voting for Putin, but

1:11:03

this time that didn't happen at all, and it became

1:11:06

clear that the masses are against

1:11:08

Putin—or at least they do not

1:11:11

support him. And this moment needs to be

1:11:14

used, and we, guys, you and I,

1:11:17

have plenty to do. There are 74,000 people

1:11:19

watching the live broadcast.

1:11:20

Even more will watch later. In the fall there will be

1:11:24

elections in many places: 30 regions, 61 major

1:11:31

election campaigns. And within the framework of

1:11:33

Smart Voting, we cover only those

1:11:35

election campaigns where there are more—those

1:11:38

that is, in populated areas where the population

1:11:40

200,000 people, but there are many

1:11:42

small but very important things. Go to the website

1:11:46

for Smart Voting — there is now a section there

1:11:47

called “Become an Observer.” Sign up in

1:11:50

the Moscow Region — there will be a huge

1:11:52

number of election campaigns there, well, there

1:11:53

among the major places where Smart

1:11:55

Voting is active are Balashikha and Podolsk, two

1:11:58

huge cities where they are constantly

1:12:01

falsifying things. Sign up to be an observer.

1:12:04

You absolutely have to go vote. There is still

1:12:05

time to run as a candidate.

1:12:07

Run as a candidate. We need

1:12:10

to seize the moment, when right now everyone

1:12:13

even Putinists understand that, damn,

1:12:17

something has gone wrong and nobody wants

1:12:20

to support this government in these elections.

1:12:22

In September, of course, everything will be difficult. There will be

1:12:25

ballot stuffing, there will be fraud, there will probably be

1:12:28

multi-day voting almost for sure

1:12:30

because otherwise they will lose badly.

1:12:32

But we have to go, and we have to get involved. There are

1:12:35

a lot of us — 74,000 watching the live stream in

1:12:38

Russia, and across the whole country there are 90,000

1:12:41

polling stations. If half of you

1:12:44

— though many of you, of course, live in Moscow —

1:12:46

from Moscow you can go to the Moscow

1:12:49

Region, from Moscow you can go to Nizhny

1:12:52

Novgorod, one of the largest

1:12:53

cities. You can go to Tambov — and in

1:12:55

Tambov we have a great campaign underway.

1:12:57

Our team is running in the elections in Tambov.

1:13:00

It is a completely lawless region,

1:13:02

an absolutely lawless region, and our team, under the

1:13:04

leadership of Diana Rudakova, has simply

1:13:07

thrown down a challenge to the entire mafia. Let’s

1:13:09

watch 52 seconds of Diana Rudakova, and

1:13:11

yes, here is Diana Rudakova.

1:13:13

I am the head of Navalny’s regional headquarters,

1:13:15

and this fall I am running in the elections

1:13:18

to the Tambov City Duma from the third

1:13:20

electoral district.

1:13:21

I constantly see how city land

1:13:24

is handed out left and right, while almost all

1:13:26

deputies side with

1:13:28

the authorities, not the residents. Several

1:13:31

times, the local diocese, by deceiving residents,

1:13:34

tried to fence off the embankment and

1:13:36

the square near Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya (Soviet WWII heroine).

1:13:37

With the support of headquarters volunteers and concerned

1:13:39

citizens,

1:13:40

I was able to bring public attention to it

1:13:42

and defend these areas. By training, I am an

1:13:45

architect.

1:13:46

I know that Tambov can become more beautiful

1:13:48

and more comfortable for residents, and I understand what

1:13:50

needs to be done for that. I believe that

1:13:53

the final word on development issues

1:13:55

involving historic and green spaces should belong

1:13:57

to the residents, not to officials. In the City Duma,

1:14:00

I will push to ensure that public

1:14:02

hearings become more frequent. Well, what is

1:14:06

that you just saw? It’s not just

1:14:08

some small-scale platform of minor fixes, you know — “I

1:14:10

will push for this, I will push for

1:14:11

everything.” To run in an election in Tambov is

1:14:14

a genuinely brave civic act, because

1:14:17

there, they are simply bandits.

1:14:18

United Russia there is not just made up of officials,

1:14:21

but of gangsters, as in many, many other

1:14:24

regions.

1:14:24

That is why people like Diana really need your help,

1:14:28

people like Diana all across the country — in

1:14:30

Novosibirsk, Tomsk — we simply

1:14:33

have every opportunity to crush them there.

1:14:37

In Novosibirsk, an entire coalition has also

1:14:40

put itself forward against United Russia — everyone

1:14:42

has united. Go to the website nsk2020

1:14:46

.ru

1:14:46

If you live in Novosibirsk, find

1:14:49

your own candidate for deputy,

1:14:51

go out and sign for them. If you live

1:14:53

in a completely different region and there are no

1:14:55

elections, nothing at all — just promote it online,

1:14:58

write something, say

1:15:01

something.

1:15:02

The main thing is not to sit on the couch, because

1:15:05

this September there will be a small

1:15:09

window of opportunity. We can

1:15:11

break into it and widen it. The next one will come

1:15:14

only in the State Duma elections,

1:15:15

and quite possibly they will be early, but

1:15:17

the State Duma elections will, of course,

1:15:19

be important — more important than these.

1:15:21

But they will, of course, rig something there too, and our success

1:15:24

in the State Duma elections

1:15:27

will, of course, be determined to a large extent

1:15:29

by our success this September, and

1:15:31

that is why it is very important to take part somehow, not

1:15:34

to think, “What is this nonsense, who

1:15:37

cares, Navalny is sitting there

1:15:39

talking about elections in Balashikha?” Yes, they

1:15:41

are of fundamental importance — the elections in

1:15:43

Balashikha.

1:15:44

A big city near Moscow — in

1:15:46

the Moscow suburbs, it is easy to beat United Russia

1:15:49

in terms of votes, easy to beat them.

1:15:51

It is much harder to defend that victory, but

1:15:54

it has to be done. So right now

1:15:57

go to the Smart Voting website,

1:15:59

register, and participate in any way you can.

1:16:03

That is real politics. Whether we beat

1:16:06

United Russia in these elections or not

1:16:09

depends only on us, and Putin will not be able

1:16:11

to do anything about it. And now probably the

1:16:16

loudest political event — though perhaps an even

1:16:18

louder one was the arrest of Safronov, the former

1:16:22

journalist from *Kommersant* — but still,

1:16:24

for the elite, in terms of

1:16:26

political consequences, of course, the arrest

1:16:29

of the governor of Khabarovsk Krai, Furgal,

1:16:32

is the main event, the one that

1:16:34

really shows, quite simply,

1:16:37

Putin’s panic. So let’s

1:16:41

look at this in more detail, because it is

1:16:43

just a perfect

1:16:46

demonstration of how Putin is simply

1:16:49

losing his control over

1:16:51

who criticized the political system so harshly

1:16:53

He was a State Duma deputy from

1:16:57

Khabarovsk Krai and a member of the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia), and there was

1:17:02

in the gubernatorial election a candidate from

1:17:05

Putin’s camp named Vyacheslav Shport, and the whole

1:17:08

entire administrative machine was working

1:17:09

for Vyacheslav Shport, and most importantly,

1:17:12

as they saw it, Putin represented

1:17:14

United Russia, so his victory was guaranteed

1:17:16

simply because Putin supported him

1:17:20

There was that photo: Putin and Shport, and that was supposed to settle everything

1:17:23

That solves every problem for any candidate

1:17:26

because supposedly the pro-Putin majority

1:17:29

exists everywhere, and the poorer the region, the

1:17:32

larger the pro-Putin majority, plus

1:17:34

administrative resources, plus mass

1:17:36

propaganda on television, and so on

1:17:38

and so on, and then along comes this proud

1:17:40

Putin heading into the gubernatorial election, a month

1:17:43

with his man Shport, and against him

1:17:44

some guy named Furgal

1:17:45

some kind of LDPR figure, apparently

1:17:48

who wasn’t even running any particularly aggressive

1:17:50

campaign. And what did the residents

1:17:51

of Khabarovsk Krai do?

1:17:52

They took, I don’t know, a piece of paper or

1:17:57

a dead cat, or just used their hand and slapped them

1:18:00

across the face

1:18:01

— Putin, United Russia, that Shport, all of them

1:18:04

And that insult is what led to the arrest that

1:18:08

happened today. And this arrest,

1:18:12

of course, I could say all sorts of things right now

1:18:13

and of course, certainly,

1:18:17

Governor Furgal, like any

1:18:20

businessman from the Russian Far East

1:18:22

who was involved in those rather murky

1:18:24

businesses like timber and scrap metal — this is

1:18:28

a man with a colorful past

1:18:30

Could he have been involved or connected

1:18:33

Could he have been connected with criminal

1:18:35

groups?

1:18:35

One hundred percent — like pretty much any

1:18:37

businessman back then, he may well have been connected

1:18:39

Could he be linked to some crimes,

1:18:41

even murders?

1:18:42

Sure, absolutely, he could be. The only question is:

1:18:44

he was a local

1:18:48

deputy for three years, then spent 11 years

1:18:52

as a State Duma deputy, and all that time we kept

1:18:54

hearing them shout lately: we won’t let

1:18:57

criminals into power, and they refuse to register

1:19:00

our party for elections, they don’t allow

1:19:02

independent candidates, because they won’t

1:19:04

let criminals into government. And the Interior Ministry, by the way,

1:19:07

said today that it turns out

1:19:08

they knew about the involvement

1:19:11

of Governor Furgal in committing

1:19:12

crimes — they knew very well. So why were you silent

1:19:15

all that time? And now they’ve simply

1:19:18

taken him down

1:19:20

because, well, of course they’ll jail him, and

1:19:22

we won’t see, I’m more than sure,

1:19:24

any serious evidence there

1:19:26

simply because Putin is specifically taking revenge on him

1:19:29

for public humiliation number one

1:19:35

when they slapped him across the face during

1:19:38

the gubernatorial election — humiliation

1:19:40

Public humiliation number two came in similar

1:19:43

regional elections, which took place

1:19:44

in September

1:19:45

These were elections for deputies to the

1:19:48

Khabarovsk City Duma and

1:19:51

for deputies to the Legislative Assembly

1:19:53

of Khabarovsk Krai. Let’s take a look

1:19:54

at the chart

1:19:55

Smart Voting was especially active there

1:19:57

in that vote — let’s look

1:19:58

On the left you see a kind of bar

1:20:01

completely red — that’s how

1:20:04

the deputies were elected in 2014

1:20:06

— all United Russia

1:20:09

in the Legislative Duma of Khabarovsk Krai

1:20:10

nothing else at all. And then 2019: Smart

1:20:13

Voting, and the public mood toward United

1:20:17

Russia — zero. United Russia there was simply

1:20:20

destroyed, and Furgal was part of that. He

1:20:23

came in and showed that, you know, if

1:20:25

the governor isn’t from United Russia, and on top of that

1:20:28

there’s Smart Voting, then United Russia

1:20:30

doesn’t just get a small share

1:20:31

— United Russia gets zero. And of course

1:20:35

there was no falsification there, by the way

1:20:38

people simply came out and once again, en masse,

1:20:40

slapped United Russia

1:20:44

and Putin across the face, really

1:20:46

And the third humiliation came when

1:20:48

they slapped them a third time — that happened

1:20:50

just now, on July 1, in that

1:20:53

nationwide vote, when turnout

1:20:56

there was 44 percent

1:20:58

one of the lowest in the country — that is, fewer than

1:21:00

half the residents showed up. They didn’t even bother falsifying anything there

1:21:03

and the result for those

1:21:06

Putin constitutional amendments was one of the

1:21:07

lowest in the country. Again, they slapped him across

1:21:10

the face — because the governor did not

1:21:14

falsify the vote

1:21:15

because the governor did not rig things, because

1:21:17

the governor was not working for United

1:21:20

Russia. And Governor Furgal — I would never

1:21:21

in any way call him

1:21:23

some beacon of freedom or, you know, a great

1:21:26

opposition figure. He’s LDPR — that’s LDPR, and that

1:21:30

says it all

1:21:31

But nevertheless, as they see it in the

1:21:34

Kremlin, he let the residents get out of hand, and the residents

1:21:37

in front of the whole rest of the country

1:21:39

kept smacking Putin in the face and rubbing him

1:21:42

face-first across the table, and they really

1:21:44

did not like that at all. And Furgal, of course,

1:21:47

is being jailed precisely because of that. I asked

1:21:50

Alexei Vorsin, the coordinator of our

1:21:52

headquarters in Khabarovsk

1:21:54

a truly outstanding politician and

1:21:57

a prominent figure in Khabarovsk Krai, who of course

1:21:59

the United Russia people never allow onto

1:22:00

any ballot — to share his

1:22:02

view as a local resident, a local

1:22:05

of an opposition politician on what is happening

1:22:06

Let's listen to Alexei.

1:22:08

One and a half minutes.

1:22:09

Hello everyone. Today they arrested

1:22:11

the governor of Khabarovsk Krai, Sergei

1:22:13

Furgal, and sent him to Moscow. As

1:22:16

the investigation claims, Furgal is accused

1:22:18

of organizing murders that

1:22:20

were carried out around 2005. Let me

1:22:23

remind you that by 2005, Furgal had already spent two

1:22:27

years serving as a deputy in the Khabarovsk

1:22:29

Regional Legislative Duma, and after that for 11 years

1:22:33

he served as a deputy in the State

1:22:35

Duma of the Russian Federation.

1:22:37

He was elected to the State Duma three times,

1:22:40

and not once did the security services bring

1:22:43

any charges against him in connection with these

1:22:45

crimes.

1:22:46

After Sergei Furgal became governor of Khabarovsk Krai in 2018,

1:22:50

after Sergei Furgal became governor of Khabarovsk Krai,

1:22:52

he began having his first problems with the security services.

1:22:54

After United Russia's defeat in the

1:22:56

regional elections, Putin's envoy to the

1:22:59

Far Eastern Federal District,

1:23:01

Yury Trutnev, summoned the governors, and

1:23:03

reprimanded Furgal because Furgal's approval rating

1:23:05

was higher than President Putin's.

1:23:08

In other words, from the envoy's point of view,

1:23:10

the governor was being blamed for the fact that

1:23:12

a governor's rating cannot be higher

1:23:14

than Putin's.

1:23:15

The last straw was

1:23:18

that in the so-called vote on

1:23:20

the constitutional amendments, turnout in Khabarovsk

1:23:23

Krai was a record-low 44

1:23:26

percent, the third-lowest result in all of

1:23:28

Russia, and accordingly Moscow's patience

1:23:30

ran out. They decided

1:23:33

to arrest the governor, which of course

1:23:35

caused very strong outrage among the residents

1:23:37

of Khabarovsk Krai. The voters of Khabarovsk

1:23:40

Krai, I am sure, will not tolerate such

1:23:42

an arrogant attitude toward them from

1:23:44

Putin. 74,000 people are watching us

1:23:47

live right now. There is a whole block of questions about

1:23:49

Furgal. Pasha Balakh asks me:

1:23:51

"Is Furgal's arrest a response to the arrest—"

1:23:53

Furgal's arrest is a response to all the residents

1:23:56

of Khabarovsk Krai, who simply

1:23:58

consistently, in three—I said three—

1:24:01

recent campaigns, did not just, well,

1:24:03

behave badly toward them; they simply crushed

1:24:06

United Russia. Just imagine:

1:24:07

in the regional legislative assembly, zero

1:24:10

members of United Russia, zero. Of course, they are simply

1:24:13

going crazy there; Putin is jumping to the ceiling

1:24:15

and squealing, and so there has to be a response

1:24:19

to all the residents of the region. Alexei Abramov

1:24:21

asks: what do you think the residents should do

1:24:22

in Khabarovsk Krai in order to

1:24:24

stand up for Furgal? I think defending him

1:24:26

is already impossible. Furgal entered

1:24:29

this system—if you live with wolves, you howl like a wolf.

1:24:31

Howl.

1:24:31

The residents of Khabarovsk Krai simply need

1:24:34

to keep crushing United Russia even harder.

1:24:37

Because this is truly arrogance, and there in

1:24:39

Khabarovsk Krai

1:24:40

there really are bandits and corrupt officials in

1:24:43

power in huge numbers. Our штаб (campaign office/headquarters)

1:24:44

is constantly publishing investigations about them.

1:24:46

Have they jailed even one of them? Removed even one?

1:24:48

No. But Furgal, for the fact that, for the fact that

1:24:52

people voted not quite the way they wanted,

1:24:54

they have already cooked up criminal cases. And

1:24:57

why do I say they are fabricated? Because

1:24:59

it is entirely possible he may have been connected

1:25:02

to someone there, but the way this is being presented is

1:25:05

just a classic. We saw this in the Yukos case

1:25:07

(the prosecution of the former Russian oil company Yukos), when some guys sit in

1:25:09

prison for eight years and then suddenly give

1:25:12

testimony: 'Oh, you know, in the cell with

1:25:15

me there was this guy, and in a

1:25:17

private conversation he said that

1:25:19

Khodorkovsky had the mayor of Nefteyugansk killed.'

1:25:22

It is precisely on testimony like that that

1:25:25

Pichugin is serving time, and

1:25:26

they issued

1:25:28

all sorts of rulings in the Yukos case.

1:25:31

It's just that some people testify that

1:25:35

'we knew.' Come on—they sit there for 15

1:25:37

years; for three cartons of cigarettes they will do anything.

1:25:39

The same thing, absolutely the same thing,

1:25:42

we recently saw with Bykov in

1:25:43

Krasnoyarsk Krai.

1:25:44

Exactly the same: some people

1:25:46

suddenly start giving testimony. By the way,

1:25:50

'Well, we knew—once, during a prison transfer,

1:25:53

someone told me that Bykov

1:25:56

killed 17 people,' and now a criminal case has been opened against Bykov.

1:25:59

A criminal case has been opened.

1:26:00

Because he needs to be removed from the election. The

1:26:02

same thing is happening here with Furgal: some

1:26:04

people suddenly—they were jailed there, or they had been

1:26:07

sitting there, then they came to their senses and gave the 'correct'

1:26:10

testimony, suddenly remembering that Furgal

1:26:13

killed some people 15 years ago. If he really

1:26:17

was involved in these

1:26:19

murders, then we will probably see some

1:26:22

evidence—we should see it. But I

1:26:24

am more than sure that no

1:26:26

evidence, apart from this kind of

1:26:28

words from some people who were sitting

1:26:31

somewhere in a cell, we will see absolutely none.

1:26:33

A few questions about Zhirinovsky: what

1:26:36

do you think about the statements

1:26:37

made by Zhirinovsky?

1:26:40

[Unclear fragment]

1:26:43

With a username like that, you need to be handled manually in Russia.

1:26:44

What do you think about Zhirinovsky and his

1:26:47

possible departure from the LDPR over Furgal? Zhirinovsky

1:26:49

said today that possibly the entire faction

1:26:53

would surrender their mandates in protest. Of course they

1:26:55

will not do that.

1:26:57

Roizman said it correctly today:

1:26:58

Zhirinovsky says whatever he wants, but he does

1:27:00

only what he is told to do in the Kremlin.

1:27:02

Of course, this is a major blow to the LDPR, because

1:27:06

that they suddenly ended up with a governor

1:27:08

who beat the United Russia candidate, and they wiped out

1:27:10

United Russia there completely, and now

1:27:13

people there are wiping their feet on them, so

1:27:15

Zhirinovsky is certainly making noise, but he will

1:27:17

do nothing about it, of that I am absolutely

1:27:19

not

1:27:20

in no doubt. To wrap up the Furgal topic,

1:27:25

I just found this recording for you, the one about

1:27:26

which Vorsa mentioned in his video. So

1:27:28

now I’m going to play it for you.

1:27:29

It’s a recorded conversation between the then

1:27:32

presidential envoy Trutnev and a dollar

1:27:34

millionaire, by the way,

1:27:35

an official multimillionaire, and this involves

1:27:37

Furgal. And on this recording

1:27:40

you will hear exactly the kind of thing governors are jailed for

1:27:44

— Furgal included. It’s a dialogue about

1:27:47

why this is happening there. Furgal explains that

1:27:50

you’re coming after me, opening criminal cases

1:27:53

against my relatives,

1:27:55

launching all this, and because of that, a movement is already starting in the region:

1:27:57

“Let’s defend the governor.” And here

1:28:01

is Trutnev’s response to that little

1:28:04

monologue of his — simply a complete and

1:28:07

exhaustive explanation of why today

1:28:09

Furgal was arrested with such pomp.

1:28:11

Let’s listen. Five seconds in, what’s being said

1:28:13

is already beyond the pale,

1:28:15

honestly, just beyond even

1:28:18

the bounds of reason. They are simply starting to

1:28:20

deliberately destroy the ratings — the ratings

1:28:24

of the authorities, the government, the rating

1:28:27

of the president.

1:28:28

And they’re doing it in a targeted, proper,

1:28:30

professional way. And people coming in from

1:28:34

Moscow... I didn’t quite understand, though,

1:28:36

why I should interfere, because you

1:28:38

said a “Let’s defend the governor” movement is forming.

1:28:43

So they’re defending you, relatively speaking.

1:28:46

Don’t you want to see what’s

1:28:48

happening? Because, you see,

1:28:51

just a second, because by the

1:28:54

numbers, the story looks very

1:28:58

clear: your rating is growing, while the president’s rating

1:29:01

is falling. So you see, that kind of

1:29:05

politics — not me, not Alexander, Alexander...

1:29:08

someone else told me that, actually.

1:29:12

That’s it. There you have the whole explanation, you see.

1:29:14

For the presidential envoy, what looks sad is not that

1:29:18

salaries in Khabarovsk Krai are very low

1:29:20

— and they really are very low — or that there are no decent jobs,

1:29:23

that people are getting involved in some kind of

1:29:25

I don’t know, illegal

1:29:26

logging, because again, there’s no work,

1:29:29

and everyone is leaving. That’s not

1:29:31

the problem. What makes the situation look sad is that

1:29:33

your rating is rising, while the president’s rating

1:29:36

is falling. That’s all. That’s the main thing.

1:29:39

That is the main crime a politician

1:29:42

can commit in Russia.

1:29:43

Especially a politician holding an

1:29:45

official post. And that is the main thing

1:29:47

the entire power vertical is engaged in:

1:29:50

making sure the president’s approval rating

1:29:53

doesn’t fall. And Furgal — well, he is what he is,

1:29:55

flesh and blood of Khabarovsk Krai,

1:29:58

and the local residents said: yes, let him be governor

1:30:00

rather than those rotten United Russia people. That’s it.

1:30:02

And Putin’s rating falls — that’s the whole calculation.

1:30:04

He committed the crime, so now

1:30:06

he’ll go away for 15 years. I have not the slightest doubt that

1:30:09

it will just be some kind of

1:30:12

show trial, without any real

1:30:14

evidence. They’ll just say something like:

1:30:16

“Agent Cornflower, Agent Daisy, in the cell,”

1:30:18

secret witnesses in the cell reported

1:30:21

that Furgal killed everyone there; they personally

1:30:23

saw it — and that’ll be it. At the same time, I don’t have any

1:30:25

great love for this Furgal.

1:30:27

Well, the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia) is a strange bunch too, not exactly saints.

1:30:29

But they elected him. They themselves elected him. So

1:30:32

my appeal to all residents of Khabarovsk Krai

1:30:34

— some of you are probably watching me now,

1:30:35

despite the fact that it’s already very,

1:30:37

very late at night there, or even early morning — but

1:30:39

simply this:

1:30:40

you won’t have elections this September anymore,

1:30:42

probably, yes; the next election is only in

1:30:45

a year. Well then, you need to vote out

1:30:46

any Putin-backed governor, any one of them, and

1:30:49

that’s it. All of Khabarovsk Krai should now

1:30:52

do everything possible to help ensure

1:30:55

that everywhere in the Far East, in

1:30:57

Siberia, and elsewhere, United Russia candidates are also

1:30:59

crushed at the polls.

1:31:01

Because there is no other way to respond

1:31:03

to this kind of thuggery.

1:31:05

If you have some

1:31:08

claims, present the evidence.

1:31:10

If there is evidence, then arrest him — not

1:31:12

because his rating is higher than Putin’s. So

1:31:14

I’m being asked:

1:31:15

“Pasha Bulakhov again: do you yourself expect

1:31:18

repression ahead of Smart

1:31:19

Voting?” Pasha, what do you mean, “expect”?

1:31:23

Artyom Ionov,

1:31:25

who was working on these broadcasts,

1:31:30

was abducted and taken away. Right now, what’s happening is just

1:31:33

completely outrageous.

1:31:34

There’s a lot to say about Artyom Leonov,

1:31:37

then they abducted him and took him into the army. The guy has

1:31:40

asthma; he has all the documents proving it,

1:31:42

and right now this is what’s happening to him:

1:31:44

specifically, we are trying to get to him

1:31:49

some SIM cards and a phone, because any

1:31:50

soldier — yes, if he’s already been

1:31:52

conscripted and has taken the oath —

1:31:55

can have a phone and a SIM card, he can

1:31:57

make calls. But they gave him nothing at all, they

1:31:58

broke everything.

1:31:59

They lied to him, told him they were taking him to a hospital.

1:32:02

He said, “Take me to the hospital, let them examine me,”

1:32:04

“do the tests and you’ll see that I can’t

1:32:06

serve.”

1:32:06

But after saying they would take him to the hospital in

1:32:09

Blagoveshchensk, they took him to

1:32:11

Chukotka, to a settlement called

1:32:14

coal mines

1:32:16

Well, I mean, you understand, someone is behind this,

1:32:18

coming up with it in the Presidential Administration.

1:32:20

Obviously, it’s not the Ministry of

1:32:22

Defense, because he was

1:32:23

detained by the FSB and handed over by the FSB to the army.

1:32:27

And so there was someone sitting there,

1:32:29

some smirking Kiriyenko, or—I don’t know who,

1:32:32

who decided to ship one person off to Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago), and

1:32:35

you took another to the settlement of Ugolnye Kopi

1:32:37

in Chukotka, where, well,

1:32:40

well, people live there too, and someone serves there, but

1:32:43

it’s obvious why they did it.

1:32:44

Automatically, you see, to send someone somewhere

1:32:46

where the sun comes out twice a year—that’s

1:32:52

just abuse. If you don’t punish this, it will

1:32:54

continue, and the pressure will keep building.

1:32:56

Well, the pressure will grow, but I’m urging you

1:32:59

to crush United Russia.

1:33:01

And more than that, I believe that together we

1:33:04

will be able to crush United Russia in a number of

1:33:06

regions. In some regions, that will be

1:33:08

very difficult, but we have to fight for it.

1:33:11

And I call on you to take to the streets if

1:33:13

they start falsifying things again.

1:33:15

Of course, we can’t just sit by and do nothing.

1:33:17

And what happened this week—

1:33:20

well, of course, this is really a kind of Putin-style

1:33:22

hysteria. He wanted July 1

1:33:26

this whole sequence of events around

1:33:30

the vote,

1:33:32

the Immortal Regiment (a Russian commemorative march honoring WWII veterans), to be a time of

1:33:35

triumph.

1:33:36

After 20 years in power, he wanted to show

1:33:39

what a great approval rating he had, and with a new

1:33:41

springboard, soar upward. But the springboard

1:33:45

that Ella Pamfilova (head of Russia’s Central Election Commission) gave him turned out to be so

1:33:47

bad that when Putin took off, he landed

1:33:49

face-first in the mud, in a puddle, and now he’s wallowing in it.

1:33:52

And of course he’s very uncomfortable in that puddle.

1:33:55

That’s why this hysteria is starting, and why

1:33:57

there’s this simply insane

1:33:59

number of arrests and searches

1:34:02

this week. It very clearly

1:34:04

is shown by what’s happening with Pyotr Verzilov.

1:34:06

1:34:07

He is the founder of one of the best media outlets in

1:34:10

Russia today, Mediazona.

1:34:12

Of course, Verzilov keeps jokingly boasting

1:34:14

that over these two days

1:34:16

he’s had more searches than I ever did—and that’s true.

1:34:18

These concentrated eight searches

1:34:21

took place at his home, at his parents’ home, and at the homes of some

1:34:25

of his parents’ acquaintances. In that sense,

1:34:28

he definitely beat me in terms of the number

1:34:31

of searches over a given period of time.

1:34:33

But it shows one thing clearly: they hate

1:34:35

Mediazona as a media outlet,

1:34:38

an independent publication that doesn’t ask anyone for

1:34:40

anything. It writes about

1:34:42

political prisoners and has become

1:34:44

an influential media outlet.

1:34:45

And this bearded, incomprehensible Verzilov,

1:34:48

from their point of view, is some kind of

1:34:49

weirdo, a junkie, someone who posed

1:34:53

naked in some museum—he supposedly has no right at all

1:34:56

to be involved in anything connected with

1:34:58

politics. And so they’re simply very

1:35:00

outraged, and within the limits of their imagination they’re now

1:35:02

carrying out endless searches on him,

1:35:04

and it’s not clear what they’re even looking for. Well, they found

1:35:07

a Canadian passport that he received in childhood

1:35:08

because he was a child. As I understand it,

1:35:11

his parents were working there, in

1:35:13

Canada, at the time, so naturally he

1:35:14

ended up with that passport. And now they’ve opened

1:35:16

a criminal case

1:35:17

because he failed to notify the authorities about this

1:35:19

passport. We asked Pyotr Verzilov

1:35:20

to record, exclusively for our program,

1:35:24

two minutes on what is happening

1:35:26

around him.

1:35:27

Today, after yet another one of the

1:35:29

searches, Verzilov was taken for a psychiatric

1:35:32

evaluation, and apparently somewhere there, at the psychiatric

1:35:35

hospital, after the evaluation, he recorded for us

1:35:38

these two minutes.

1:35:40

Hi everyone. Another investigative procedure has just ended for me

1:35:43

as part of

1:35:47

my grand, consolidated

1:35:49

criminal case,

1:35:50

which, just for a moment, combines

1:35:53

the criminal cases on the mass unrest of July 27,

1:35:55

2019,

1:35:57

the alleged assault on law enforcement

1:35:59

officers, and—attention—

1:36:02

the criminal case over my failure to report

1:36:06

my Canadian passport. All three of these

1:36:08

enormous events have now been rolled into

1:36:10

one single criminal case, under which

1:36:13

for effectively the third week now

1:36:16

they’ve been trying to torment me somehow,

1:36:22

to harass me, to make me undergo some

1:36:23

extremely difficult, insane procedures.

1:36:26

Everything that has been happening to me over the last three

1:36:29

weeks—from giving me 15 days for swearing,

1:36:31

to the alleged assault on a provocateur police officer,

1:36:34

and ending with yesterday’s search of the apartment

1:36:37

of my mother’s friend—all of this is simply

1:36:40

indescribable. These events, which in our

1:36:45

usual

1:36:45

even by our usual Russian

1:36:48

criminal-justice reality—even for

1:36:51

that reality, this is some new peak of absurdity

1:36:55

and madness that is now unfolding

1:36:57

in relation to me over these now

1:36:59

almost three weeks. It’s impossible

1:37:02

to say exactly why this is being done; one can only

1:37:04

only

1:37:07

draw the general conclusion that they have

1:37:10

developed a desire to make my life harder,

1:37:13

to put pressure on me, and to send a signal to all

1:37:16

of society: this is what happens if you behave like this,

1:37:19

like Verzilov. Under no circumstances

1:37:21

should you do that—or there will be criminal cases even at your mother’s friends’ homes.

1:37:24

There will be criminal

1:37:26

proceedings and all the rest. But none of this

1:37:30

will work, and we will win anyway.

1:37:33

We’ll be stronger than all of them, 38 times over.

1:37:36

Hooray, maybe even 39 times over. Good for me.

1:37:41

I like Verzilov’s attitude — he’s holding up well.

1:37:43

He’s staying upbeat. I know from personal experience that searches

1:37:45

are a pretty unpleasant thing, especially

1:37:47

in a situation where you’re serving 15 days in detention and then

1:37:49

they take you to a search in another region,

1:37:52

all the more so when searches are being carried out at your

1:37:55

parents’ home, or at the homes of your parents’ acquaintances. It’s always

1:37:57

very uncomfortable. No one blames you for any of this,

1:37:59

but that doesn’t make it any easier when they come and

1:38:01

take away computers, phones — everything.

1:38:02

They take things away from children too. It’s

1:38:05

a pretty unpleasant situation. But everyone else should

1:38:09

understand that this is being done

1:38:11

to intimidate you. There are 76,000 people

1:38:14

watching this live, and it’s being done so that

1:38:16

you’ll get scared and won’t sign up

1:38:18

as an election observer, won’t get involved in politics, won’t

1:38:21

do anything like that, won’t go and take part

1:38:23

in smart voting. A search is being conducted at

1:38:25

Verzilov’s place, and that’s why today, in connection with

1:38:28

Open Russia, this is sheer lawlessness.

1:38:30

Mass searches are being carried out there — searches at everyone’s homes:

1:38:32

Galyamina’s,

1:38:33

all the representatives of Open Russia’s,

1:38:35

Pivovarov’s, Usmanova’s,

1:38:37

Olga Gorelik’s, Prostakov’s — and many other people’s.

1:38:40

Searches are being carried out. It’s basically

1:38:43

meaningless, within the framework of a criminal case

1:38:45

against Yukos from 2003. Everyone being searched today

1:38:49

was either still in school back then or

1:38:51

hadn’t even started school yet at the time.

1:38:53

But these searches are being carried out for one reason: so that everyone

1:38:56

gets scared.

1:38:57

So there’s no need to be afraid. They can’t carry out searches on everyone,

1:38:59

that’s impossible, and no one

1:39:01

will be able to do it. The turning point

1:39:04

will come when we understand that there are

1:39:06

so many of us that they can do

1:39:09

absolutely nothing to us. Verzilov

1:39:11

will endure it.

1:39:12

And I’ll endure it too. Will there be more

1:39:14

pressure, more repression? Of course.

1:39:16

There’s much more of it. For example, today in

1:39:19

Kurgan, our coordinator is likewise being

1:39:21

targeted with a criminal case, allegedly because he

1:39:23

is evading the military draft office.

1:39:27

That’s the only thing they can do:

1:39:30

harass specific people with targeted pressure and repression,

1:39:33

torment particular individuals. But it’s impossible

1:39:36

to do this even to thousands of people — that’s

1:39:39

something we need to understand very clearly. Here, I’m being asked

1:39:40

by someone from Dosage... or Vian...

1:39:45

In our city there will be elections, but

1:39:48

there is no regional Navalny штаб (campaign office).

1:39:49

I’d like to become an observer — where

1:39:51

should I apply?

1:39:52

We have campaign offices in 41 regions,

1:39:55

and elections

1:39:56

are taking place in a number of regions, including

1:39:59

some with very promising races. And where we don’t have our

1:40:00

offices — Komi, for example, is a great region where

1:40:04

United Russia could simply be crushed.

1:40:06

But as it happens, we don’t have an office in

1:40:08

Komi. What you need to do is the following:

1:40:11

go to the Smart Voting website — the link

1:40:15

is below. A section has appeared there: “Become

1:40:17

an Observer.” Go there,

1:40:20

register, and let us know that you

1:40:23

want to be an observer. And after that, we

1:40:26

will move on — it won’t be a simple process.

1:40:28

We’ll have to coordinate and organize things,

1:40:30

find people who can issue the necessary referrals,

1:40:32

so there will still be a huge, huge

1:40:34

amount of work for us to do.

1:40:36

But the main thing is for us to see that you

1:40:39

want to be an observer, that you want

1:40:42

to monitor and campaign.

1:40:44

That is of fundamental importance. Again,

1:40:46

Moscow, Moscow Region.

1:40:48

There are 76,000 people watching live, half of them from

1:40:51

Moscow.

1:40:51

If a third of that half — 10,000

1:40:56

people — start from tomorrow

1:40:58

working on the elections in the Moscow Region,

1:41:00

we will just absolutely

1:41:03

wipe out United Russia there — just wipe them out.

1:41:05

And from you, we only need, I don’t know,

1:41:07

15 minutes a day, 15 minutes

1:41:10

a day.

1:41:10

So please, please, just don’t

1:41:14

be lazy.

1:41:14

And against the backdrop of all this, of course, amid the absolutely

1:41:17

lawless things that have been

1:41:19

happening this week, I noticed

1:41:20

a completely astonishing piece of news about

1:41:24

the authorities’ loved ones. Verzilov is being searched,

1:41:28

Open Russia activists are being jailed, our guys are being tormented,

1:41:30

people are being abducted and taken off to the settlement of

1:41:32

Ugolnye Kopi.

1:41:33

But remember, some time ago there was

1:41:36

one of the most popular videos about

1:41:39

a search at the home of the regional head

1:41:46

of Rostekhnadzor (Russia’s federal environmental, technological, and nuclear oversight agency).

1:41:48

He was the head of Rostekhnadzor for the Northwest, and it was

1:41:50

a very popular video because when they

1:41:52

came to his home with a search, you could see that

1:41:54

the entire apartment was stuffed with money.

1:41:56

I mean, it was literally everywhere, and there were

1:41:58

lots of video recordings. I’ll show you one of them.

1:42:00

A man named Grigory Slabikov

1:42:04

was detained in May 2018, and he was accused —

1:42:07

or rather, excuse me, accused of involvement in

1:42:09

the theft of nearly 6 billion rubles (about tens of millions of U.S. dollars), and

1:42:12

several billion rubles were apparently found

1:42:13

right there in his home. Judging by the photos

1:42:16

obtained by our colleagues,

1:42:18

Grigory Slabikov has a weakness for

1:42:20

elite alcohol and expensive wristwatches. On the

1:42:23

floor there were also stacks of banknotes seized in various

1:42:25

currencies. Initially, the money had been chaotically

1:42:27

scattered across bookshelves, among clothes,

1:42:29

in shoes, or simply lying on the table.

1:42:32

Surprisingly, many of the envelopes with

1:42:33

cash had not even been opened. This

1:42:35

may suggest that keeping track

1:42:37

of his illegal funds was beyond the apartment’s owner.

1:42:39

He didn’t even have time—this person simply had

1:42:43

an apartment filled with cash, in bank-wrapped

1:42:46

bundles, because there was just so much money

1:42:48

that there wasn’t even time to unwrap it.

1:42:50

The bundles are just lying there. What’s happening to him?

1:42:53

It’s as if, somehow—I don’t even know how to put it—

1:42:56

they barely touched him.

1:42:57

The law enforcement system isn’t crushing him at all—he’s sitting under

1:43:00

house arrest, not even in a cell, and with him there’s

1:43:03

the daughter who helped him pull off all these schemes. And

1:43:06

this week the court

1:43:09

eased her restrictions: she had been

1:43:12

under house arrest, and that was replaced with

1:43:14

a lighter measure—or rather,

1:43:15

the pretrial restriction was changed to a ban on certain

1:43:18

actions. Now it’s just a ban on certain

1:43:20

actions, like

1:43:20

you must not contact your

1:43:23

accomplices, or you may not communicate with

1:43:25

certain people. In other words, her house

1:43:27

arrest was eased. These people stole billions,

1:43:31

stuffed their apartment with cash, but they are not

1:43:35

socially dangerous from the point of view

1:43:37

of Putin’s regime.

1:43:38

They didn’t do anything truly terrible,

1:43:41

they didn’t undermine

1:43:43

Vladimir Putin’s approval rating. They were ready

1:43:44

to rig elections—they were the good guys,

1:43:46

so of course everything should be fine for them too.

1:43:50

Whereas people like Verzilov and Open Russia activists

1:43:52

are enemies of the state. And these facts—

1:43:54

they need to be used, they need to be

1:43:55

shown, because most people

1:44:00

simply have no idea about this.

1:44:02

And by the way, the nationwide vote

1:44:04

showed us very clearly that here,

1:44:06

just as I said on my programs, and

1:44:08

the results confirmed it, some 40 to 50

1:44:12

percent of people didn’t even know that

1:44:14

this was about resetting Putin’s term limits.

1:44:17

And now it may seem to you that everyone knows how awful

1:44:19

United Russia is,

1:44:20

or that they know about that guy from

1:44:23

Rostekhnadzor who stole billions and is sitting under

1:44:25

house arrest. They don’t know this. And when you tell them,

1:44:27

when you explain it,

1:44:29

you are doing very useful and practically

1:44:32

important work, because you are destroying

1:44:34

Putin’s ruling party in these very

1:44:37

important elections. Now, I’ve gotten a lot

1:44:39

of questions about Safronov. I left this

1:44:42

topic for the end. Why? Because many of

1:44:46

you—the most attentive ones—noticed

1:44:50

that I hadn’t said anything about the

1:44:53

detention

1:44:54

and arrest of former *Kommersant* journalist

1:44:57

Ivan Safronov, who was arrested on

1:44:59

espionage charges. Well, let’s

1:45:02

watch the July 27 video of how he was

1:45:05

detained near his home. Let’s

1:45:07

take a look.

1:45:39

Ivan Safronov was arrested. He is accused

1:45:42

of treason, of engaging in

1:45:44

espionage, and of passing some important secret

1:45:47

documents to what, it now turns out, was

1:45:50

Czech intelligence, which in turn

1:45:53

was working for the CIA. I said nothing about

1:45:56

this

1:45:58

because, let me be honest and frank,

1:46:00

I’m not exactly thrilled, let’s put it that way, about

1:46:05

having to defend him—

1:46:08

Safronov, to be honest—because, well,

1:46:13

in the whole campaign unfolding around him

1:46:15

there is a lot that is

1:46:17

right. And of course, with regard to any person,

1:46:19

the first thing

1:46:22

we must say is that we

1:46:23

demand an open and honest

1:46:26

investigation. If he is a spy and a traitor,

1:46:29

show the evidence. But if instead of evidence you have

1:46:31

only ‘it’s secret, it’s

1:46:34

secret, it’s secret,’ then that won’t do.

1:46:36

At the same time, however, I consider it

1:46:40

absolutely dishonest and hypocritical when

1:46:44

we are told that

1:46:45

‘another journalist has been arrested, let’s

1:46:48

defend a journalist.’ Well, Ivan Safronov is

1:46:51

an adviser to Rogozin; he is a Roscosmos PR man,

1:46:55

a person who in 2020 goes

1:46:59

to work for Roscosmos to handle PR

1:47:02

for Rogozin. So here we have Rogozin sitting

1:47:04

at the head of Roscosmos—a pointless journalist—and

1:47:06

they hired another one just like him,

1:47:09

another pointless journalist who would

1:47:11

do PR for Rogozin.

1:47:13

He was officially hired to work there.

1:47:16

Now let’s watch another video,

1:47:17

a recording of the detention of this journalist guy

1:47:20

who was given a Mercedes worth 5

1:47:23

million rubles. There he is, walking up to

1:47:25

that Mercedes near his home. So this is

1:47:28

not some journalist, but a nice little bureaucratic

1:47:30

type with a folder. He opens the door of his

1:47:32

Mercedes,

1:47:33

and FSB officers run up to him and

1:47:36

arrest him. I mean, I don’t—I don’t

1:47:38

know Ivan Safronov personally, I haven’t

1:47:41

been closely following

1:47:44

his journalistic work.

1:47:45

He did, however, have some fairly high-profile

1:47:47

articles.

1:47:48

But honestly, a person who in 2020

1:47:52

went to work as Rogozin’s PR man,

1:47:55

after all those tweets about how Rogozin

1:47:58

dreamed of getting into the trenches in Sloviansk (a city in Ukraine),

1:48:02

and of being there as one of

1:48:05

those trench fighters, and that no

1:48:07

official posts were needed by him—and after all

1:48:11

those articles and our investigations into

1:48:13

Rogozin’s absolutely colossal salaries,

1:48:15

after the numerous

1:48:16

investigations by Sobol into how everything was

1:48:19

looted at the Vostochny Cosmodrome,

1:48:21

after the fact that now Roscosmos’s main project

1:48:24

and Rogozin’s main project is

1:48:27

to build, on the territory of the Khrunichev plant,

1:48:28

an office complex with luxury

1:48:32

housing.

1:48:32

some kind of gi- giant rockets, well,

1:48:35

I mean, instead of space, they’re busy with

1:48:37

property development, and Rogozin is spouting some kind of

1:48:39

nonsense about endless trampolines. Let’s

1:48:43

— we have that video about the trampoline, can we

1:48:45

play it, just to remind people?

1:48:47

Show us the trampoline. Despite the sanctions,

1:48:51

they decided to extend cooperation on the ISS

1:48:53

until 2024, although there had been talk of

1:48:58

ending that cooperation

1:48:59

in 2020. Russia still

1:49:02

continues to transport American

1:49:05

astronauts and other astronauts to the ISS

1:49:08

using our launch vehicles, although there had been

1:49:12

talk of suggesting that they

1:49:14

use a trampoline instead of spacecraft

1:49:16

to get to the ISS.

1:49:21

And that’s why Ivan Safronov ended up at

1:49:24

Roscosmos, because Rogozin talks

1:49:26

a lot of nonsense — he needed a PR man who

1:49:28

would help him smooth things over, and in

1:49:31

that sense Safronov became a typical

1:49:35

thoroughly state-loyal

1:49:37

PR operative. Go to his Twitter and you’ll

1:49:39

see zero criticism of Putin’s rule, not

1:49:42

a single word in support of his own

1:49:45

fellow journalists, specifically

1:49:46

Prokopyeva, because he was

1:49:48

doing just fine. And I see a lot of good,

1:49:51

honest journalists there.

1:49:52

They worked together with Safronov,

1:49:55

they know him, they want to support him.

1:49:57

They drank with him together at Mayak,

1:50:00

a well-known hangout where

1:50:02

journalists used to gather, and Meduza people worked there too,

1:50:04

there are personal ties, friendships. They write: ‘Vanya

1:50:07

just loves space.’ Vanya just loves

1:50:10

money, and that’s why Vanya went to work at

1:50:13

Roscosmos. And a person who goes

1:50:15

to work as the PR man for the adviser to Roscosmos —

1:50:18

for Rogozin’s adviser, excuse me —

1:50:20

sorry, I’m getting worked up about this again —

1:50:22

that person has no

1:50:25

moral principles whatsoever, and that person has

1:50:27

not the slightest conscience. You can’t

1:50:30

take the words out of the song.

1:50:32

Despite that, I absolutely demand

1:50:35

that Safronov receive a normal,

1:50:37

honest, open trial.

1:50:39

I think it’s dishonest when, all in one breath,

1:50:43

people come out in T-shirts saying

1:50:45

‘Freedom for journalists. Safronov.’

1:50:48

But what about Frenkel and Prokopyeva?

1:50:51

Safronov — excuse me — Prokopyeva did not

1:50:54

go work as a press secretary for

1:50:56

the National Guard (Rosgvardiya).

1:50:56

And Frenkel did not work as a PR person for the Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN), while

1:51:00

they were doing their

1:51:02

journalistic work.

1:51:03

Safronov was a fine Putin-era

1:51:07

official; he was completely

1:51:09

blind — he paid no attention

1:51:11

to any lawlessness from the moment

1:51:14

he landed a cushy job at

1:51:16

Roscosmos, got his Mercedes worth 5

1:51:19

million rubles, and probably some

1:51:21

very large salary. Now what happened to him

1:51:24

has happened, and the position here

1:51:28

should, I think,

1:51:32

consist of the following elements. First:

1:51:36

yes, we understand the character

1:51:39

of Safronov himself, who worked in

1:51:41

the Kremlin press pool and who was working

1:51:43

most recently at Roscosmos.

1:51:45

Nevertheless, these recent espionage

1:51:49

cases that we’ve seen involving

1:51:52

scientists and various other people —

1:51:54

to put it mildly, they raise many, many

1:51:57

questions, because all of them, absolutely

1:52:00

all of them, follow the exact same

1:52:03

pattern. So, this person — some

1:52:05

Ivanov or whoever — is accused of espionage because

1:52:09

he passed on secret information

1:52:12

to some secret CIA spy or whoever —

1:52:16

and what information was it? Well, that information

1:52:18

was included in the list of secret

1:52:20

information constituting a state

1:52:22

secret.

1:52:22

And that very list of information constituting

1:52:25

a state secret is itself

1:52:27

a state secret. This is not a joke or an

1:52:29

exaggeration. In every trial, the same thing is said:

1:52:32

all right, so what secret

1:52:34

information did he pass on? And they say: that’s

1:52:37

secret, we won’t tell you what secrets

1:52:40

he passed on. And to whom did he

1:52:42

pass that secret information? We won’t tell

1:52:44

you. The indictment is secret,

1:52:47

the trial is secret, the lawyers are given nothing,

1:52:50

everything around it is secret — and then

1:52:52

the person has to be locked up for 25 years.

1:52:54

Excuse me, but they say he

1:52:58

worked with some Czech

1:53:00

intelligence services. Not to mention that

1:53:02

if we’re talking about Czech intelligence and

1:53:04

security services, then let’s please check Bastrykin,

1:53:07

my favorite. We did an FBK investigation

1:53:10

into Bastrykin

1:53:11

and proved that he had

1:53:13

undeclared real estate in the Czech Republic and

1:53:15

a Czech residence permit, and then the Czech

1:53:17

Interior Ministry confirmed that Bastrykin

1:53:21

had a residence permit in the Czech Republic.

1:53:23

That was simply — well, simply proven. In

1:53:25

the country, a top official

1:53:28

who definitely had access to the highest

1:53:30

state secrets got a residence permit in

1:53:34

the Czech Republic, and nothing happened — he got away with it. But

1:53:36

if this Ivan Safronov,

1:53:39

while working as a journalist, passed something on, was

1:53:42

recruited,

1:53:43

in 2012, and in 2017

1:53:46

for selfish motives

1:53:48

committed some kind of act,

1:53:50

betrayed his country for personal gain,

1:53:53

well then show us — he must have been paid,

1:53:55

right? Those Czech spies must have been paying him

1:53:58

in cash or something, I don’t know.

1:54:01

with Czech beer, please show us as well

1:54:03

whether money was coming to him or not—show us

1:54:06

please. But this supposed mismatch in his standard

1:54:08

of living—if he was allegedly passing on secrets for a period of time

1:54:11

and receiving some money for it—then that would mean Ivan

1:54:13

Safronov was living lavishly

1:54:14

while his salary did not allow for that. Show us

1:54:16

some actual facts. All we see

1:54:19

right now are just some people who say

1:54:22

"top secret," everything is absolutely secret, and

1:54:25

it's impossible—meaning that, in reality, to this day

1:54:28

no one understands whether this is about Safronov's article

1:54:30

by Safronov

1:54:31

about some deal between Russia and Egypt,

1:54:35

a secret deal for aircraft deliveries,

1:54:36

or something else entirely. But if he was recruited in

1:54:39

2012, then presumably

1:54:41

Ivan Safronov must have committed many terrible acts of espionage

1:54:44

Ivan Safronov

1:54:44

—tell us about at least one of them. And

1:54:47

of course, we must demand

1:54:50

a trial—an open trial. And I demand

1:54:53

an open trial. And the sheer panic with which they

1:54:56

actually began detaining

1:54:59

journalists outside the FSB building (Russia’s Federal Security Service) when they

1:55:01

came out with those placards saying

1:55:03

"Freedom for Safronov" shows that

1:55:05

they have nothing to present. Let's take a look.

1:55:07

Here is Meduza journalist Lidia Poryva

1:55:10

—just look, how long does

1:55:13

a one-person picket in support of Ivan

1:55:15

Safronov outside the FSB building last?

1:55:20

Or Varva

1:55:22

a correspondent for the outlet

1:55:26

standing here by the wall—maybe he is already being taken away

1:55:30

right now

1:55:38

Check it.

1:55:47

Exactly four and a half seconds. Four

1:55:51

and a half seconds—and then they drag her away.

1:55:52

Because there are no answers to the questions.

1:55:54

None at all. And by the way, note

1:55:56

this:

1:55:58

there is a major article by Yevgenia Albats in

1:56:00

*The New Times*, where she puts forward

1:56:02

a version of events that seems to me quite

1:56:04

worthy of attention regarding the reasons

1:56:07

for Safronov's arrest.

1:56:09

Albats is, after all, someone who has written quite

1:56:10

a lot about the Russian security services, and

1:56:12

I believe her opinion can absolutely

1:56:15

be trusted here. In this case, she writes

1:56:17

something fairly logical: that large

1:56:20

countries such as Russia, which

1:56:22

manufacture weapons, quite often

1:56:24

engage in various shadowy arms deals,

1:56:27

supplying someone through

1:56:29

front companies, through third countries,

1:56:32

so that no one finds out, or in order to get around

1:56:34

some sanctions. And apparently

1:56:36

the aircraft deal with Egypt

1:56:39

was arranged in exactly that way.

1:56:41

And this is not some uniquely Russian

1:56:44

practice—America does it too. There was the

1:56:46

famous Iran-Contra scandal, right,

1:56:48

when the CIA was supplying weapons while at the same time

1:56:50

drug trafficking was going on. Intelligence services do

1:56:53

such things. But the peculiarity of our

1:56:56

illegal arms trade, as

1:56:58

Albats argues, is that

1:56:59

there are people in the FSB who

1:57:01

use these deals for personal

1:57:04

enrichment. In other words, they simply take

1:57:06

advantage of the fact that you can do this through shady

1:57:08

shell companies and all sorts of

1:57:10

schemes under the guise of secrecy,

1:57:13

and while setting up these various schemes

1:57:17

they personally earn kickbacks in the hundreds

1:57:19

of millions of dollars. And I would not at all

1:57:22

rule out the possibility that within the framework of this

1:57:23

Egyptian contract worth $3 billion or more,

1:57:25

some particular FSB lieutenant general

1:57:27

was supposed to make

1:57:29

$100 million, $200 million, or $300 million from it, and

1:57:32

since Safronov disrupted that deal

1:57:35

by publishing some article about it,

1:57:37

they simply got offended and said, "Well then, you

1:57:40

ruined this deal for us, so you must be a spy."

1:57:42

So, to sum up this whole story once

1:57:46

again: I do not want to be some great

1:57:49

defender of Ivan Safronov.

1:57:50

I believe that, at least in the last

1:57:53

months of his work,

1:57:55

there was hypocrisy there; it was an absolutely immoral

1:57:58

position, and it was also a betrayal

1:58:02

including toward his fellow

1:58:04

journalists, when he settled into a comfortable

1:58:05

position and began to keep quiet. It's a fairly

1:58:10

familiar career path for many

1:58:14

journalists from newspapers such as

1:58:17

*Kommersant*—a very understandable, very familiar pattern

1:58:20

in this person's development. So

1:58:22

I am not going to run around shouting and tearing

1:58:24

my shirt over the claim that he is some beacon of democracy and that

1:58:28

punishing him is some kind of atrocity. I am not

1:58:29

going to do that. However, with respect to any

1:58:32

person, our demand must be this: if you

1:58:36

accuse him of a crime for which

1:58:38

he could receive a life sentence,

1:58:40

then provide evidence—give us something, anything.

1:58:43

Enough of telling us that everything is

1:58:46

secret, because under such a scheme

1:58:47

any person can be imprisoned, without

1:58:50

exaggeration—tomorrow they can simply take anyone.

1:58:53

After all, in Safronov's case, he did not have

1:58:54

access to state secrets. So tomorrow they could

1:58:57

arrest you and say: you were passing

1:58:59

Zimbabwean intelligence secrets. What secrets?

1:59:02

That's secret. To whom did you pass them? That's

1:59:06

secret. By what means did you pass them—over the

1:59:09

internet? Well, that too—but the actual

1:59:10

mechanics are secret, and in a secret

1:59:13

indictment, with lawyers pushed aside

1:59:15

and all sorts of nondisclosure orders, you

1:59:18

end up getting 25 years for absolutely nothing.

1:59:20

But it all looks very convincing; everyone

1:59:23

will think, "How could that be? You can't just

1:59:25

do that

1:59:26

detain a person with special forces involved, and..."

1:59:28

They can even make up a charge of treason.

1:59:31

Millions of people, hundreds of thousands of people—it's not as if

1:59:35

they were arrested long ago, by the way.

1:59:38

They were imprisoned because they were

1:59:40

American, Polish, Mongolian—who knows what kind of

1:59:43

spies in those years, and all those cases were fabricated.

1:59:45

Those cases—exactly the same ones, by the very same people

1:59:49

who sat in those buildings where

1:59:51

new people are sitting now, and once again they are fabricating cases against us.

1:59:54

So as for Ivan Safronov,

1:59:57

we demand a fair court

2:00:00

hearing, which every person is entitled to.

2:00:03

That is what our

2:00:06

demand consists of. Thank you very much to everyone who

2:00:07

watched my live stream. See you

2:00:09

next Thursday.

2:00:10

Sign up as election observers now.

2:00:12

This is an important moment—these are the elections when United

2:00:16

Russia

2:00:17

Russia must be made to suffer politically, and if it does not,

2:00:20

then no one will be to blame for that

2:00:22

except ourselves.

2:00:23

Bye.

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