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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it's exactly 8:00 p.m.

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which means that we're live on air

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am the host,

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Alexei Navalny, or "the aging blond,"

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as I was called

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by Margarita Simonyan during our

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rather amusing exchange on the social

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network Twitter, where, it seemed to me,

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I made a fairly successful joke. All of this was

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connected to Medvedev's plane, and today we will discuss it.

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Today I will have a guest,

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Georgy Alburov, and together we will discuss

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the details of how we conducted

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the investigation into Navalny's—sorry, into the plane, the yacht,

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everything else, and also Svetlana

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Medvedeva's plane. And on top of that, in connection with

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this, we have a prize giveaway in our

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store. There's a new

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collection: T-shirts, absolutely

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wonderful ones,

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and there is—I'm not sure I can even say this

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word live on air—a bandana. I don't know

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why bandanas exist in this world at all.

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What's more, tomorrow I will post on my Instagram

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a photo.

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Don't get your hopes up, of course, that I—

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our guys did, after all, make me

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put the bandana on—not on my head, no, on my

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arm, actually—but I still

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felt rather strange.

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But anyway, a T-shirt, a T-shirt, and

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a bandana—we're giving them away, we're

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inviting you to take part in this

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giveaway. To participate,

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you simply need to go below and

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look in the description, follow the link,

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send us a donation of any amount there,

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starting from 200 rubles (about $2), and guess which place,

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which next city the plane will fly to.

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Absolutely wonderful.

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The wonderful TV host—Navalny, of course—

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which city will the plane fly to

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of Svetlana Medvedeva?

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Well, Svetlana's plane is nicer,

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so the T-shirt goes to whoever guesses

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Navalny's plane, and the bandana to whoever guesses

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Medvedeva's plane.

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But one important thing that Georgy Alburov asked me

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to clarify: except for Moscow

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and St. Petersburg, because right now these

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planes are currently in Dubai and somewhere

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in the Netherlands, so to Moscow and

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St. Petersburg they will most definitely

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return. Those two cities do not

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count—you cannot guess them.

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All other cities are fair game, please.

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Imagine yourself as Navalny—or rather,

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imagine yourself as Svetlana Medvedeva.

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Think about where you would like to fly

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to relax or hang out, write it in, and maybe

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you'll guess correctly. Next time, accordingly,

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in the next broadcast I will say who our

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winners are, we'll sum it up, and we will hand out

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these wonderful T-shirts and other prizes.

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Please send your questions on Twitter with

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the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture; I will

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put them on screen and read them. Once again,

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I remind you that all the conditions

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for participating in the giveaway are below in

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the description of this broadcast. Well then, let's begin with

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today's live broadcast. I wasn't the only one

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who was live today. First, as a kind of warm-up,

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Dmitry

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Anatolyevich Medvedev appeared before me.

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Let's be honest: it was a weak performance, and the most

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interesting thing about Medvedev's broadcast

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was exactly what he did not want: the audience was

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running wild in that chat column on

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YouTube—and everywhere else too. I mistakenly wrote on

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Twitter that it was only there,

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on NTV's YouTube channel, that they had opened

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the chat. But it was also open on Rossiya 24 and

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on some others as well—everywhere.

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Thank you very much, huge thanks

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to everyone who took part in this

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action.

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Demanding that journalists ask

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Medvedev about Svetlana Medvedeva's plane.

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We, in fact, from Medvedev

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were not able to get an answer to this

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question, but it was simply wonderful

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to watch. So let's

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just take a few seconds to see

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what this broadcast looked like and how people

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were reacting in the chat.

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For the purpose of coordinating this reform—well, he began

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to talk about the garbage reform. That sounds

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rather grim, so we still try

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to use a different term.

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It's clear that that's not the main issue, but sometimes it is

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partly about that too. It really is an entire sector

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that exists in practically every

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developed economy, namely methods

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for disposing of solid municipal waste.

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I think that, of course, Dmitry Anatolyevich

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Medvedev and his PR people were quite upset

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today, and yesterday too, of course.

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They were upset when we released our

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investigation about his wife's plane, the one on which

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she flies, and it's unclear who

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pays for it, because there was clearly

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an attempt there to boost and improve

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Medvedev's image, which of course was badly

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shaken—or rather, I would say it collapsed—after

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our film *He Is Not Dimon to You*.

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Now the whole country knows that Medvedev, despite

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the fact that he may not outwardly

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look like some crude crook,

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is in fact one of the biggest

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corrupt figures in the country. He is the leader of the ruling

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party, United Russia—not Putin, but Medvedev is its

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formal leader.

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I don't even know whether there are plans for him

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to lead United Russia into the elections in twenty

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twenty-one, but nevertheless there was clearly

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some kind of plan to improve his image, and we

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of course disrupted that a little.

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I’m asking only about the plane, and he said nothing.

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He didn’t answer. I watched the whole thing, absolutely all of it.

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In our coverage afterward,

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of this call-in show, it was basically like:

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20 TV channels and zero questions about

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the plane. Of course, that says a lot. But on the one hand, I want to say it shows the terrible level

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of Russian journalism; on the other hand,

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when you look at all those people there,

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it’s hard even to call them

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journalists.

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Sure, their employment records probably say

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“TV journalists”,

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but they’re some very strange people

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who ask questions that aren’t just

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pre-approved, but also completely

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bland and fake. And overall it all looked

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exactly why I called this segment something like

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“Good Night with Dmitry Medvedev” — the only thing missing

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was for Khryusha and Stepashka (characters from the Soviet/Russian children’s TV show *Good Night, Little Ones!*)

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to pop out from somewhere. Honestly, it was like some kind of

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God...

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Timur Batrutdinov was there too, asking

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some question. Anastasia Ivleeva was there too,

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asking a question. Some girl

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from KVN (*Club of the Funny and Inventive*, a Russian comedy TV competition) / the *Ural Dumplings* comedy show was there too.

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There was also just some cute little

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girl with a question — or rather, he asked her something like,

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“So, little girl, what books do you read?” and the girl

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said something in response.

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I mean, since we know for sure that

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all of this was scripted,

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there was an excellent piece on this in *Proekt* (an independent Russian investigative outlet),

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by the way — go read it.

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You won’t have the slightest doubt

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that these were prepared setups. I mean,

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you understand — they told the girl:

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“Little girl, Dmitry Anatolyevich (a formal way of referring to Dmitry Medvedev by first name and patronymic)

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is going to ask you what books you read, and you

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please answer.” And we, the viewers, are supposed to

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say, “Oh my God,”

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“how wonderful,”

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“look, Medvedev is talking to a little girl.”

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And maybe, just maybe, we won’t hate him quite so much

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for stealing

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several billion dollars and building

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various palaces — instead we’ll love him, and

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love the United Russia party too.

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So yes, it was a very strange

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idea. Even if there hadn’t been the whole

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story about our plane, it still would have been

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a super weird idea. The saddest thing for me,

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besides the fact that he said nothing

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about the plane, was the participation of

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Anastasia Ivleeva. She’s a great

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girl, really — good for her, wonderful,

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funny, and most importantly, she doesn’t depend on this state

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for anything, and her whole life story is one she made

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herself.

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She was doing manicures in St. Petersburg, then made it through

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Instagram and became the main

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Instagram girl, and probably the most famous

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kind of

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female celebrity in Russia right now.

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She did all of that herself, especially at the beginning,

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without television, without any kind of

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support — she built it herself. Good for her, that’s cool.

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Why she came and acted as a backup singer

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for this crook from United Russia,

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I don’t understand. Of course, she could have — she really could have —

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actually asked him about the plane herself.

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No one would have killed her or done anything to her.

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Though clearly the Friday TV channel probably

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has some leverage over her and either made her

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come or persuaded her to come. She looked

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pretty strange there, and clearly out of place.

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It’s unclear why she did it. I mean,

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it’s clear why Medvedev needed it; it’s not clear

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why Ivleeva did. And I’m very upset by it.

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I hope she won’t take part anymore

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in things like this,

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in these rather shameful

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stunts where she clearly gains

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nothing. In fact, Medvedev

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didn’t gain anything either. Watching all of it

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was very interesting, generally speaking.

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With these call-in shows, you can always

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cut them up somehow,

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pull out some especially juicy bits, and then

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tear into the person hosting the call-in show,

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the way various Kremlin guys do even with my

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broadcasts. And as always, it’s easy to do that with Putin,

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because Putin says all sorts of strange,

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meaningless, stupid, dishonest

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things — little bits and pieces

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you can latch onto,

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pick apart, discuss for at least a few minutes.

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Some phrase here, some hellish story there.

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But Medvedev is, well,

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just such a

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completely useless guy — he simply said

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nothing interesting. Apparently the whole

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PR strategy was to say absolutely nothing

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sharp, nothing irritating,

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and nothing interesting, because, well,

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they’re afraid Medvedev might blurt out something wrong.

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The only thing, of course, that caught my attention

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there was

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an interesting bit of reasoning from him about

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healthcare. Let’s listen to how

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Medvedev talks about it. It was supposed to be

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some kind of “human moment” there,

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where he simply

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decided to speak human-to-human and explain how he

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actually knows that in

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Russia healthcare is in bad shape, how hard things are

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for the Russian regions. [41 seconds]

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At the same time, every year —

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and often every month — I visit either

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a clinic, a district hospital, or

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a rural first-aid station, and the situation there

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is very difficult. Vladimir Putin and I have, in a way, shared

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these kinds of national impressions

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on this subject. It just so happened that he was talking to people

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in a small town, and I was in

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others, naturally. And of course the overall

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state of this primary care network

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in a whole շարք of regions

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is problematic.

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depressing

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Apparently, the idea was that we

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would watch this and think, and say to each

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other, “Well, look at Dimon (a nickname for Dmitry Medvedev) — he travels around the

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regions, knows the country, sympathizes

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with doctors.” It’s like this ordinary

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conversation between ordinary people. You yourselves have said this a hundred

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times and heard it a hundred times

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— this exact phrase. He says there,

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“You drive just 100 kilometers (62 miles) from Moscow — it’s a nightmare

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what’s going on.”

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Everyone always says that phrase because

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it’s the pure truth. And he says,

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“My God, what a horror, what things are like on the highway,”

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“100 kilometers (62 miles) out — it’s a nightmare what’s going on.” And

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it reminded me of a very recent

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similar bit of commentary. There was a really super-mega

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viral video where three pensioners are sitting there and

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criticizing the authorities because the authorities do

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everything badly, plainly — and they looked so sweet, so

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natural, so convincing

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and you really look at these three

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pensioners and believe them: three old men on a bench

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sitting there and telling the truth. Let’s

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please take a look. 30 — not the nominal amount for

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a bench in a commuter train — 37 seconds

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the minimum amount is 11,000... 10... 83

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million 200 thousand people

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and on top of that employers, employers

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quite often, unfortunately, break the law and

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pay less... and how many millions of people

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after those figures, and pay a little more

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for this certificate, and look at the station, well

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it really is like Vladimir Semyonovich is riding in a

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commuter train, and people are saying to each other, “Did you hear, someone

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heard? The government wants 5,000 rubles for a

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certificate.” “Are you serious? 5,000 rubles — how is that even

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possible? 5,000 to pay? People here have

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salaries of 19,000 rubles, and some

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and can you imagine, some have salaries of 7,000 rubles there

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and for some maybe not 7,000 — there are 20

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million people like that. And what about Fedyukovo there

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985 thousand for a certificate... I’m not following... what madness

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lawlessness

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It’s just astonishing to watch all this, and

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they’re plainly telling it — one thing is obvious:

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this is also staged. They show these things on the news

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so that, apparently, we

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would look at it and say, “Ah, yes,”

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“the government really is thinking about us, it remembers

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that for an ordinary person, 5,000 rubles

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for a certificate is a lot.” What’s striking is — I’ve got

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a question here, I see: Viktor Medved...

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“Alexei, why, against the backdrop of low ratings

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and declining interest, don’t they cancel the live call-in shows

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with Putin and the big press conferences

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of Putin and Medvedev?”

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Well, because apparently they are in all

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seriousness convinced that this is great

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— that these press conferences are great PR moves

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You’re constantly surrounded by ultra-mega

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bootlickers. In Putin’s case, and in

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Medvedev’s too, but especially Putin’s — for 20 years

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you’ve simply had people gathered around you

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who don’t ask even any kind of

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uncomfortable question. And coming back to it,

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I just didn’t have time to include this video in the program

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— Proekt, the publication Proekt,

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published

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a story about how the presidential

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press pool works, and there’s an absolutely first-rate

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story there. I didn’t have time to show the video; there’s

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even a video where someone explains

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— a person who worked for four years in this

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presidential press pool. He says that

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the main rule is: you must never

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ask Putin an unsanctioned question — neither negative nor positive

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you must not create any unsanctioned situation for Putin

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never, under any circumstances. And he gives

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as an example the time when, remember, Putin was driving across the

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Crimean Bridge

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some guys were sitting there, driving

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a KamAZ truck, and an RBC correspondent got out of the truck

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and said, “So, Vladimir Vladimirovich,

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did you enjoy riding in the KamAZ?” And

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Putin replied, “Super.” They published it,

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and the correspondent was kicked out of the pool. Great

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to be working as a journalist and get punished for asking

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whether he enjoyed riding in a KamAZ truck.

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Just imagine the degree of isolation from

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the normal world, and the degree of their servility

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in everything that’s happening around

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them. He really likes it all; they surely

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must have brought Medvedev the reports and said,

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“You were incredible,”

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“My God, Ivleeva (Russian TV host and blogger Nastya Ivleeva) was looking at you

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with lovestruck eyes,”

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“and Batrutdinov (Russian comedian Timur Batrutdinov) practically

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looked ready to throw himself at you, and everyone adored you,”

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“and you can’t imagine what was going on in the

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chats, Dmitry Anatolyevich,”

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“it was all hearts, hearts, and little airplanes

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being posted constantly.” Apparently that means

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those little airplanes were illustrating how your

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approval rating would soar into the sky.

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Well, maybe with Medvedev it’s harder to do that

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— Medvedev knows how to use a

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mobile phone and uses

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the internet — but with Putin it most definitely

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works. They like all of this; they

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are convinced that it really is absolutely

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great. Roman Zubakov asks me:

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“Excellent investigation about Kosinsky

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— by the way, how did you find out about the plaque

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in Central Park in New York? Soon

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Alburov will come here, and we’ll

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ask him all these questions. But before

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that, I wanted to say one important thing: there was

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still one thing in Medvedev’s appearance that genuinely

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outraged me — the part where he talked about

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protests. Pay attention — now I’ll play you

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1 minute 17 seconds.

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The guy is basically admitting it. He says, “Well, these

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protests arose as a kind of demand for

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justice, but then there was blah blah...”

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Basically: if you go to a protest, you shouldn’t be going to a protest

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— but at the same time we understand that

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you are driven by a desire to achieve justice.”

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What drove it? Well, you went to the rally, and that's why—

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—you were jailed.

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At 1 minute 17 seconds, we can see that

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the mood in society is changing, well, at

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least in Moscow, there was a whole

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wave of protest activity over the summer. It all started

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with the Moscow City Duma elections. What do you think—

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why did these sentiments in society

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emerge at precisely this moment? And, well, if

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that mood exists, then something must be creating it.

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Obviously, there are probably some

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shortcomings in the work of the law enforcement

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system, and they need to be taken into account and, in some

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way, something needs to be changed. But overall,

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this triggered quite a powerful

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demand for justice. In itself, that is

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probably completely normal. The only question

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is one thing: you and I understand perfectly well

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that such problems cannot be solved on social media or in

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the public square.

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You can express your opinion—that is

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absolutely normal—but expressing your

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opinion still has to be done in the manner

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provided for by the rules currently in force. And

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no matter how much people say, well, that we

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filed something or other and weren’t

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allowed to do something—the law may

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be to your liking or not, that's understandable,

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but it still has to be obeyed. Otherwise we

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could slide into very dangerous

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situations that, in our country, could

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turn into something really bad. That is,

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you can feel that, basically, he is saying:

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yes, well, this is normal, it's

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normal, it really happens—people

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felt injustice and started

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fighting against injustice. But of course

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they broke this rule. And he sits there

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talking about it so calmly, as if the day

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before that

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they hadn’t demanded four years in prison for Yegor Zhukov over YouTube videos.

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They demanded four years of

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imprisonment.

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Four years in prison. Initially,

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they tried to accuse Zhukov of, well,

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organizing some kind of unrest.

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Then they realized they had simply, excuse me,

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screwed up with that charge, when

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they said: well, you know, in his

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indictment it says the following:

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"Zhukov experiences a feeling

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of political hatred and hostility toward

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the existing constitutional order in Russia,"

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and "decided to involve an unlimited number

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of persons in his extremist activities,"

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which are "aimed at destabilizing

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the socio-political situation in the Russian Federation."

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Any normal person feels

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political hatred and hostility toward

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the existing system.

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Any normal person. To some extent, I’m even

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sure that Anastasia Ivleeva and Timur

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Batrutdinov feel that

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hatred and hostility too. Because, by the way,

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I was just told that neither

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one nor the other—I wanted to show you

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some of their Instagram posts after

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that meeting—but neither of them posted

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anything, because they were ashamed. Their

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TV companies made them go there.

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Come on, they’re not idiots. Should they

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post a picture on Instagram saying, "Oh, I asked

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Medvedev a tough question"?

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What would people say about them? But they don’t—

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Ivleeva and Batrutdinov simply do not want

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to take part in this. They know how people

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feel about the current regime, and they

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are actually jailing Zhukov. It’s just, well, I

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don’t know—on a completely baseless

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charge, they are trying to imprison him. I very

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much hope that the hellish commotion

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that the Higher School of Economics (HSE) stirred up around him—

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in particular, that female candidate

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from United Russia whom we

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—thank you once again—managed to knock out of

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the election—they feel some degree of

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guilt

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that their student is being imprisoned for nothing, and they

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will probably, in the Kremlin, I very much hope,

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manage this

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to get him a suspended sentence. And, by the way,

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I want to warn right away

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those who will write:

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"Oh, what a relief, a suspended sentence." No—

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there is nothing good about a suspended sentence. In any

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case, Zhukov will receive a verdict on the 10th.

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Tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. in Kuntsevo District Court,

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so come support him. And

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there, too, there will one hundred percent be an

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guilty verdict—an unjust

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guilty verdict. We hope it will be

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a suspended one at least, though for an innocent

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person even a suspended sentence is still a conviction. They really—well,

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there will be a guilty verdict there, one

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hundred percent, absolutely one hundred percent. And so,

21:07

well, Medvedev says, yes,

21:09

I repeat, sorry, people were demanding

21:12

justice. Now, taking into account

21:15

a certain demand for social

21:17

justice, these people who

21:20

were demanding social justice were brought to this point

21:21

because we are going to jail them. Another

21:24

person, Nikita Chertov, was yesterday requested

21:26

to receive three and a half years in prison.

21:28

Let’s watch the video—33 seconds—showing

21:31

what exactly the state is demanding a

21:34

three-and-a-half-year prison sentence for.

21:37

mute

21:43

[music]

22:10

That’s it. Nothing else happened. He pushed the riot police officer in the chest

22:13

in the crowd. In court, the OMON officer (Russian riot police) said

22:15

that he experienced discomfort because he was

22:18

pushed in the chest with palms, despite being such a big guy.

22:21

Pushed in the chest—three and a half years

22:23

in prison. The person is absolutely

22:25

completely innocent. Tomorrow is actually

22:29

the day of verdicts in the Moscow case.

22:31

Zhukov’s starts at 10:00 a.m. in Kuntsevo.

22:34

in court. After that, at 11 o’clock, there will be a verdict for you

22:37

at the Tverskoy Court, and then also at the

22:39

Meshchansky Court there will be a verdict. Go to the

22:41

Mediazona website if you want to support someone

22:43

— choose whom to support and

22:45

come to this court hearing so that, well,

22:48

so that at least these people

22:50

feel that we are expressing

22:51

solidarity with them. We are certainly expressing

22:54

our solidarity with them. Right, I’m reading questions.

22:58

Medvedev says—Naric Vader writes to me

23:01

—Vadersky, Vader-something—about how one must

23:02

speak out without breaking the law. If that’s the case,

23:05

then, I confess, the article about freedom of speech can go to Jesus

23:07

because it no longer applies at all.

23:08

Exactly right. What does it mean to speak out without

23:11

breaking the law, if you nasty United Russia members

23:14

keep constantly changing that law? You’re just

23:17

constantly hemming us in.

23:19

A “foreign agent” here, a “foreign

23:21

agent” there—everyone who receives money

23:24

for example from YouTube monetization, they’re

23:27

foreign agents. A question from Vlevo Segodnya ("Left Today"):

23:29

what was Dmitry Anatolyevich thinking—won’t you

23:30

reopen YouTube for us? For me,

23:32

income from YouTube matters.

23:34

Dmitry Anatolyevich, the leader of the ruling

23:36

United Russia party, should be explaining

23:38

that, you know, Anastasia, maybe we won’t

23:40

switch it off, but really you’re only one step away

23:42

from being declared a foreign agent, because

23:45

you receive money from an American

23:47

company, on servers in California

23:50

terrible things are happening, and videos with

23:53

your jokes are stored there, so you are potentially

23:54

a foreign agent. And they themselves

23:57

keep piling on with new

23:59

rules, inventing new bans,

24:01

and then they say: but please, here, your

24:04

space is narrowing, narrowing, but

24:06

if you want to speak out, we’re all

24:08

for it—just please, right here, right there,

24:10

stand in the pen, put a

24:12

muzzle on yourself, and then speak, because

24:14

in the law that we, United Russia,

24:17

passed,

24:17

it says that freedom of speech exists, but

24:20

only, well,

24:21

only with a muzzle on. The law is the law, the law

24:23

is harsh, as the Romans used to say:

24:26

*dura lex, sed lex*—but it is the law. And these very people

24:29

who declare us foreign

24:34

agents and tell stories about some

24:35

monstrous West—they themselves live there, they themselves

24:38

move there. In that sense, with the exception of

24:41

the story about the plane, or

24:45

and Medvedev, the third biggest story

24:47

that happened this week is,

24:48

of course, my old acquaintance, one of the

24:51

leaders of the Nashi movement (a pro-Kremlin youth movement), which was

24:53

created to support Vladimir Putin—

24:55

Robert Shlegel. I’ve known him since those

24:58

ancient times, from way back when.

25:01

A long time ago I even organized a debate between

25:05

that Shlegel and the writer Dmitry

25:08

Bykov. In fact, I’ll show you a small

25:10

clip of a video where I’m interviewing him

25:13

and so on, from those ancient days, uploaded to YouTube

25:15

some hundred thousand years ago.

25:17

You asked how the debate I

25:19

organized went—let’s take just two seconds.

25:21

So, the Kremlin-backed Nashi movement, about

25:23

the Kremlin-backed Nashi movement, to think about

25:24

debates—well, that was worth mentioning.

25:34

The anti-fascist Nashi movement—but in any case we

25:39

congratulate you on your recent

25:41

birthday.

25:43

Here’s the person off camera supplying

25:47

us with birthday kompromat (compromising material); he

25:49

published it about himself—it was me. So, the movement

25:52

Nashi—really, now only its

25:55

fragments remain. Those people who were

26:00

leaders of the Nashi movement have turned into

26:03

some kind of nomenklatura whales—crooks and

26:05

thieves. Some are PR people, some are

26:07

ministers, some have become something else, but

26:09

all of them, of course, like traditional

26:12

officials, make money here, steal here,

26:16

here, while they themselves, of course, mostly

26:18

try to leave for the West. And Shlegel

26:20

outdid them all. This man

26:23

was the initiator of some of the most hellish

26:28

bills. He introduced a bill under which

26:30

the media themselves were supposed to pay some

26:32

absolutely фантастические fines for

26:34

defamation. Then he introduced

26:36

a bill restricting the screening in

26:39

Russia of foreign films. Foreign

26:41

films are terrible, they undermine the country’s “spiritual bonds” (a common conservative Russian phrase).

26:45

And his most famous bill

26:48

restricted freedom of speech on the

26:50

internet. He demanded that the TV channel

26:53

Dozhd (TV Rain) be shut down. And what did he do now? This

26:56

wonderful man emigrated to

26:58

Germany. It turned out that he became

27:01

a German citizen. And the wording

27:04

is simply delightful. As for Shlegel—

27:08

why is he hated by the progressive

27:10

public? Any normal

27:11

person would know: he pushed through that very

27:14

Dima Yakovlev Law (the Russian law banning U.S. adoptions of Russian children), under which

27:17

it was said that foreigners—Americans in

27:20

particular—

27:20

do not have the right to adopt a Russian

27:22

orphan. You know, this is a huge

27:24

problem in Russia: we have a great many

27:26

abandoned children. They live in orphanages,

27:28

especially sick children—no one wants

27:31

to adopt them in Russia, unfortunately.

27:33

They live in horrific conditions, they

27:35

die very young, and life is simply

27:38

an endless nightmare. Foreigners used to come here

27:40

to adopt them. In America there simply aren’t

27:43

large numbers of orphanages of that kind,

27:45

there’s no one there to adopt, so they

27:48

travel and adopt abroad, in poorer

27:50

countries, and Russia is one of them.

27:52

They adopted these children.

27:54

they were taken away and given

27:55

a normal life, and people like Schlegel

27:58

and Schlegel specifically said: no, you can't

28:01

take our children there, you'll take them away and

28:05

give them proper medicine? No, let them

28:06

stay in orphanages — that's better than if they

28:09

go to America. And they stayed there, and there

28:11

they were even separated; the process of establishing

28:13

parenthood took quite a long time, and they separated those in

28:18

families that had already been formed

28:19

who were there formalizing, processing their

28:23

parental status, and during that process they were told

28:25

during the paperwork: that's it, goodbye,

28:28

leave, go back to the United States

28:29

this little child wants to stay in the

28:32

orphanage — that's what a United Russia member said

28:33

Schlegel, that hypocrite, with the line: I

28:35

want my children, who are from Russia, to grow up in

28:38

Germany. He leaves Russia, obtains

28:42

German citizenship, gets a job at a

28:44

German company

28:45

and says that he has, you know, my

28:48

overall attitude — that's what a man tells us

28:50

who headed Nashi (a pro-Kremlin youth movement) and was

28:53

the youngest State Duma deputy

28:54

he said, well, my attitude has

28:56

shifted, shifted into the realm of

28:58

apoliticism — I no longer want

29:00

to be involved in politics

29:01

I'm living here in Germany now, and I'm just

29:05

doing great. What staggering swinishness

29:09

The man lived and made money by

29:13

harming us, by making life in Russia worse

29:17

explaining it by saying he was standing up to

29:20

the West. To you, dear Petya, Manya, or Kolya from

29:25

Moscow or Vladivostok, Schlegel was saying

29:29

that this and that — and, Kolya, you're not entitled

29:31

to a free internet, because people over in

29:33

Germany will tell terrible things. He

29:35

pushed for that, he got it done, laws were passed

29:37

and then after that he said something like, I

29:39

did some crap, and it turned out I also have

29:42

children, and my children also want to live in a

29:44

normal country, so please, I'll move to

29:47

Germany, and let Petya, Manya, and Kolya stay

29:50

here

29:51

where young people just like me are growing up

29:53

who spout the same nonsense as the one you'll

29:55

hear now at the 47-second mark

30:03

He says that we have a future, which

30:21

means that we will be able to see

30:29

financial

30:44

[applause]

30:45

we'll win everything, we have Putin's plan, and

30:48

young people have a future

30:50

said Robert Schlegel. For a while

30:52

he hung around and collected a huge salary at

30:54

our expense, then said, well, what can you do,

30:56

there is no future, and left for Germany, saying

30:59

that he had shifted into apoliticism. All of them

31:02

will leave for there. There are two options

31:05

either this Putinist filth

31:08

falls apart and those in power

31:11

scatter like rats and settle down just fine

31:13

in Germany, where everything will be

31:15

good for them

31:16

or the second option: they scatter like

31:18

rats, but everything goes badly for them because

31:20

we will force their extradition and

31:21

put them all in prison here, because they stole

31:24

our money. There is no other option. The fact that

31:26

the entire Putin gang will scatter and

31:29

try to flee abroad is 100

31:33

percent certain — 146 percent (a sarcastic reference to implausibly inflated Russian election results). And the situation with

31:37

Medvedeva, Kostyonin, or whoever else

31:40

demonstrates this perfectly. Before

31:43

moving on to that topic, I want to say

31:45

and remind you that our campaign is still going on

31:47

the "I Stand For" T-shirt campaign. You know

31:49

that the criminal case against us hasn't

31:51

gone anywhere; it's still moving forward, and we're still

31:54

dealing with all of it. Nothing has been returned to us, and

31:56

things are being taken away from us; it's hard for us to keep going. We were

31:58

supported by all kinds of people, famous

32:00

and unknown — simply everyone who

32:02

donated to us

32:03

and continues to support us. That's wonderful. I'm very

32:06

proud to show you that a video in our

32:09

support was recorded by one of the most

32:10

well-known economists in the world, and certainly

32:12

the best-known and best Russian

32:13

economist, Sergei Guriev. In a long

32:16

interview — you probably saw it recently — with

32:17

Yury Dud (a prominent Russian interviewer), there was one minute where

32:20

Sergei Guriev spoke about the case involving

32:23

FBK

32:26

My name is Sergei Guriev. I am a citizen

32:29

of Russia, and only Russia. As an economist, I

32:33

know very well that in today's Russia there is

32:36

nothing more important than the fight against corruption

32:38

That is precisely why I regularly supported

32:41

FBK

32:41

from the very moment the foundation was established in 2012

32:45

I am completely satisfied with how

32:48

they spent my donations

32:49

I transferred to FBK my honestly

32:52

earned money, on which I paid

32:54

all taxes due. The tax authorities

32:57

of Russia, like the tax authorities

32:58

of other countries, have never had any

33:01

claims against me. That is why I am

33:04

outraged that my money was

33:06

seized and declared criminal proceeds

33:09

and I demand that my money be

33:12

returned to those to whom

33:13

it was voluntarily donated. I closely

33:16

follow all FBK investigations

33:18

and in every one of them there is plenty of work to do

33:21

for investigators from the Investigative Committee and

33:23

the prosecutor's office

33:24

Instead of fighting those who

33:26

fight corruption

33:27

start fighting corruption. Hands off

33:30

FBK

33:34

Many thanks to Sergei Guriev. And who do we have

33:37

here with us — Georgy Dobry? We have 49

33:41

thousand people watching live. Please tell

33:42

us, please, if Beautiful Russia of the Future

33:46

which is why, of course, we are effectively requisitioning planes for

33:49

or for Svetlana Medvedeva

33:51

to claim what language, really

33:55

the better plane is, of course, one or

33:58

because it is ten years newer, and it is

34:01

$10 million more expensive because

34:02

because now it is slightly bigger, and of course it is strange

34:04

quite enough, because the wife of the prime

34:06

minister, as she probably learned from

34:08

our investigation, does not fly quite as much on

34:10

not such an especially good plane, but

34:12

some kind of, or an Oscar for D from the TV channel

34:15

Russia, to fly on a plane that

34:17

is much more—my hands, by the way, speaking of

34:18

seriously, no joke, I am sure that one of the

34:21

reasons why VTB tried so desperately

34:24

to block our investigation everywhere was not

34:25

to scrub all the business media, because, well,

34:28

but in reality, exactly to bring it down—why, well, I do not know

34:31

a girlfriend's plane

34:34

really, probably there too, Medvedev has

34:37

a Bombardier Global 5000, while this one is a 6000, a Bombardier Global

34:41

6000, and the Bombardier Global is $10 million

34:43

more expensive. Come on, let us run an experiment

34:45

imagine that this is

34:48

Svetlana Medvedeva. You come to your

34:52

press conference, she stands there like this

34:54

and says: Dmitry, why does this

34:58

then some unprintable language follows

35:00

plane is better than mine? What is going on there with you?

35:01

What is happening in the government? You appointed Kostin

35:03

why does every damn

35:06

[unprintable], [unprintable], plane cost more than

35:08

mine? What do you answer? I would say: Sveta,

35:10

would you like to fly to the Emirates?

35:12

perhaps. And amazingly, today she

35:14

flew there, or perhaps that is not quite

35:17

right, excuse me, and there she is vacationing lavishly

35:19

but Medvedev's plane flew off, yes, it

35:21

left today. Do you think she flew there?

35:23

well, either she did or the son did, most likely, of course

35:24

well, the weather outside is such that, all in all,

35:28

the city

35:28

is better now

35:30

we are doing a giveaway—what did you want?

35:32

to receive, a bandana or a T-shirt? What

35:35

size T-shirt? Probably a bandana. Zakhar,

35:37

what size?

35:39

Yurgis wanted to fight for the bandana. I

35:42

remind you that you can send

35:44

donations to us—the link is below, from the stands

35:47

and indicate which city

35:49

she will fly to next time, or which next

35:51

city she will arrive in next time

35:53

Svetlana Medvedeva

35:54

from the options of St. Petersburg, Moscow, and the Arab

35:58

Emirates—the United Arab Emirates, but

36:00

because the plane arrived there today

36:01

already left, and it seems to me that it

36:03

dropped someone off there and then, on the way back, will pick someone up there

36:06

it вполне may pick someone up if someone is in

36:08

the United Arab Emirates. Where exactly, I do not

36:11

know; I will figure it out. If you are in the United Arab Emirates

36:15

then please look on the beach—it is quite

36:17

likely that you will see

36:19

Svetlana Medvedeva, or a woman in a

36:22

headscarf who will be looking for a place

36:24

to pray. At this point, Fleur, you are

36:26

really just roasting her now

36:28

Svetlana Medvedeva

36:30

in a completely astonishing way, this

36:32

all goes together—she practically never leaves

36:34

church

36:34

she really is this astonishing

36:37

combination: the fact that she

36:38

takes a jet stolen from VTB, stolen

36:41

from the entire Russian people, takes it

36:43

gets on it and goes somewhere to the other

36:45

end of the world to pray, while she is

36:47

photographed by some visitors

36:48

to monasteries, as she walks in a headscarf, and beside her

36:50

Ilya Medvedev is also walking, without a headscarf

36:52

he takes some candles from her and lights those

36:54

candles, and all of this is supposedly not public, but

36:56

nevertheless they do it while flying on

36:58

a private jet that was stolen from all of

37:00

us, and they fly around trying to atone for these sins

37:02

it is astonishing, though on the other hand

37:04

what are good Christians supposed to do if

37:06

their husband and father steals billions, but

37:09

they probably at least do not want this

37:10

to go uncompensated, so they try to atone for sins

37:12

first of all, one must

37:13

pray in Jerusalem. How do you get there?

37:17

Obviously, you fly there by plane; the luggage goes too

37:20

of course. Roman Zubakov asks

37:23

excellent, praise first, excellent

37:26

investigation, yes—but where did

37:28

you learn about the plaque in Central Park

37:30

in New York? Excellent question. Actually, I

37:34

will tell the truth in my defense, well

37:36

the thing is, that plaque was

37:38

put up for public display; it was put up so that

37:41

people would look at it, so people would know about it

37:42

earlier, because now many people there already

37:44

write that Venediktov somehow had a hand in it in

37:46

April, so he also, well, somewhere

37:48

spotted that plaque too, apparently. Everyone had their eyes

37:50

on it, but some tourists posted it

37:52

and we noticed it too, because, well, we

37:54

monitor unusual things like that

37:57

connected with New York and with Russian

37:59

officials; from time to time this comes into our

38:01

field of view, and among other things it came to

38:02

our attention—that plaque did. But we did not

38:05

fly there specifically to check

38:07

whether the plaque was there or not in

38:09

New York, so it sat with us for quite

38:10

a long time, and it just so happened that in May I

38:12

was on vacation. Naturally, I said

38:14

let us go, let us rush there while on vacation, to

38:16

the area

38:18

somewhere very far away—we arrived, and for that video

38:20

it was inconvenient, of course, and not by private jet

38:23

Central Park is huge, and there are benches there

38:27

literally by the thousands—more than 10,000 there, I

38:29

think around 15,000 of those benches—and I

38:31

remember very well, in Georgia flew you

38:33

They said, "Okay, please, Rosstat" (Russia’s federal statistics agency).

38:36

Find this bench. So I went out and got started.

38:38

From the subway to Central Park—then what?

38:40

Something like that, right in the middle of the park at that time.

38:42

I looked at the benches, checked one bench after another, and kept walking.

38:45

No, not that one—the bench—and I kept going.

38:47

Naturally, I had to look for some kind of staff member.

38:49

Someone from Central Park, so they could tell me that this one

38:51

bench was located exactly there, in the center, and

38:53

Who counts as Central Park staff? The police?

38:55

The ones walking around, or who is it exactly?

38:57

I spent a lot of effort—Hotel Park Conti.

38:59

Some official establishment connected with the park.

39:01

I poked around here and there, and there was nobody, but in the end

39:03

I found some kind of semi-official place.

39:06

The place was called something like Chess & Checkers.

39:08

There were some old guys there playing

39:10

chess, playing checkers with each other, and I

39:11

went up to the first person there in the middle of the park.

39:13

I said, "Hi, here’s a photo."

39:15

"It’s a plaque—just tell us how to find it."

39:17

But they were surprised. I had basically gone up to

39:20

just some random person who

39:22

had no idea—"from Russia, I’m looking for a photo from here."

39:26

It used to be right here.

39:28

The bench—Georgy’s English was rated at

39:33

Wikipedia.

39:35

But I wasn’t just asking anyone—there was a guy there

39:38

the person who hands out to the old men

39:39

the chess and checkers sets, who knows the layout

39:41

of Central Park.

39:43

So I went up again and said,

39:45

"Hi, there’s also this plaque—"

39:47

"Could you tell me how to find it?"

39:49

They were surprised and said, "We need some time."

39:52

"Let us ask around here, and in the meantime you can play checkers."

39:54

So we sat there and played checkers for an hour.

39:56

In the end, after an hour, a member of the

39:59

Central Park staff came over and said, "Hi, so, we

40:01

looked into it—it’s located in this area."

40:03

"That’s the most expensive area. Strange that this

40:06

plaque is there, because all the

40:07

super-expensive ones are there. The most expensive means

40:09

a plaque costs around 25—yes, yes, closer to

40:11

$25,000." I said, "Well,

40:14

great, that’s exactly the most expensive plaque we need."

40:17

They roughly drew a circle for us on a map

40:20

showing where it might be, and so we

40:23

went off to look for the plaque. We searched

40:25

and searched, and eventually found it. In fact, we

40:27

literally spent the entire daylight hours

40:28

trying to find that miserable plaque.

40:30

And by the way, you still owe us a vacation day.

40:32

You owe us a day off, time off.

40:35

Let’s vote on whether to give Georgy a day

40:37

off for this investigation.

40:39

It really did turn out to be very successful.

40:40

You’ll get your day off, Georgy, although in

40:41

your story there’s neither the FSB (Russia’s security service) nor the CIA,

40:44

just some people playing checkers. That’s really not the

40:52

level of detective work we were expecting from you.

40:54

But the part of the investigation where we’re looking for

40:58

the yacht—it really does seem like it, it looks

40:59

great. Let’s watch it at 1 minute 36 seconds.

41:03

Every airplane, private or not,

41:05

sends out a radio signal with its position.

41:07

Ships do the same, including

41:11

yachts.

41:12

Their coordinates at any given moment

41:14

can be found fairly easily. Besides that,

41:17

we have our madam’s Instagram, with hundreds of

41:20

photos and stories about vacations, and

41:22

so we have three sets of absolutely

41:26

public information from open

41:27

sources.

41:28

Instagram, the movements of her plane around

41:31

the world, and radar data on all

41:33

the yachts in existence worldwide. In other words,

41:35

theoretically, we can simply overlay

41:38

all of that and figure out which

41:40

yachts went out to sea in the cities

41:42

where the plane flew. It sounds

41:45

simple, but in practice, for example, in

41:47

the area around Nice, where her

41:50

plane was from July 30 to August 4, there were

41:53

5,234 boats that went out to sea. Among them

41:58

was definitely her yacht—but 5,000 is too many.

42:01

Among five thousand, we’re not going to find the right yacht.

42:03

So why not look instead

42:06

at other cities where our plane was?

42:08

We found which of those five thousand yachts

42:11

went out to sea in Albi, Italy, from the 14th

42:14

to the 17th of August, and our sample shrank

42:16

to 256.

42:18

Then we add Genoa, from August 30 to 31,

42:22

and the number of yachts drops to just 34.

42:25

And then we look at Cyprus, where

42:27

the plane was from June 30 to July 5, and the number of yachts

42:32

that were in those four places on

42:34

the right dates leaves us with exactly one.

42:36

Meet **Sea and Us**.

42:40

Sea and Us—you won’t believe how many times

42:43

while we were recording the video I tried

42:45

to pronounce the name correctly. 53,000

42:49

people are watching live, and I

42:50

want to remind you that we’re collecting

42:52

donations all these days and raffling off these

42:54

T-shirts and a bandana.

42:56

You can find the raffle rules in

42:59

the description below the video.

43:00

Please explain: how exactly do they

43:07

kind of give themselves away like that? And if we assume

43:10

that this is no longer Svetlana Medvedeva

43:12

and she doesn’t come aboard—let’s say she travels on it—

43:14

then why are traces of these flights visible everywhere?

43:16

Why don’t they just switch it off?

43:19

Because Eurocontrol requirements

43:22

and, more broadly, European and global

43:24

transport agencies include the rule

43:25

that you have to keep

43:27

this beacon on at all times, because

43:29

if some kind of insured incident happens

43:31

and it turns out that it was

43:33

switched off, then you can lose your insurance.

43:36

So of course they all have to use it.

43:38

You might say, "My God, they’ve got the whole

43:39

VTB Bank at their disposal" (a major Russian bank), but the question is: can they

43:42

just go ahead and switch off the transponder?

43:43

All right, we decided—they decided, according to them, over there in...

43:45

Monaco—to have some fun and throw a party

43:47

where someone jumps out of a champagne glass.

43:49

They brought in Timur Batrutdinov and knocked out a newcomer.

43:54

And then we won’t see them—of course, then we

43:56

won’t see them, but then they’ll also have

43:58

problems, because they are obliged to

44:00

be constantly careful—and if you look at this madness,

44:02

if you look at Instagram, it’s hard to tell

44:04

what exactly is going on. That’s where she deserves credit.

44:06

Of course, now she flaunts the fact that she

44:08

flies around, travels—she acts so open,

44:11

good for her, doing everything “right.” But before

44:13

the publication of our investigation, she

44:15

was absolutely proper in how skillfully and

44:18

effectively she hid

44:20

information about the yacht and the plane.

44:22

If you look at the yacht photos that

44:24

are posted on Instagram, we

44:25

find that in fact there are only two or three

44:30

tiny fragments of the yacht visible at any time.

44:32

On Instagram there’s no yacht name,

44:34

and no large section of the yacht

44:36

appears in the photos. She hid all of that, and

44:38

it was very difficult for us to establish what

44:40

yacht it actually was. You see, it really wasn’t

44:42

easy at all, even before the interview.

44:44

With Naryshkin, Brook would...

44:45

Sergei, what’s the weather like for the song...

44:47

And her latest promo for the interview with

44:50

Sobyanin was absolutely, absolutely

44:52

masterful. Let’s watch a few

44:54

seconds of how our wonderful Nailya

44:57

will be interviewing Sobyanin. What kind of

45:00

satanic Moscow is this, and how is it different from

45:03

Luzhkov’s Moscow? We’ll find out from the capital’s mayor, Sergei

45:05

Semyonovich. Hello, Nailya—or hi.

45:08

The key figures: Nailya and Asker-zade.

45:11

Sunday after midnight on the channel

45:14

Rossiya (Russia TV channel).

45:16

One of the most inexplicable things about her

45:19

is that she’s a super-rich TV host, she has a TEFI award (a major Russian television prize), I mean

45:23

it’s obvious that someone bought it for her here,

45:24

TEFI.

45:24

And she is officially the main interviewer

45:27

for the Rossiya 1 channel.

45:29

She has a TEFI, she’s an award winner, and her

45:32

program airs at 12:30 a.m. on Sunday—yes,

45:35

or rather, you could say Monday

45:36

or Saturday night depending on how you count it. In any case, it’s the

45:38

worst possible time. It seems to me that at such an hour

45:41

even if your show were broadcast on

45:43

Rossiya 1.

45:47

It’s just a dead slot, Alexei, because

45:50

for some reason I keep wondering

45:52

why this supposedly top interviewer

45:54

is always scheduled at this hour. It’s simply

45:57

because nobody watches her. But Rossiya 1 apparently

45:58

has some kind of

46:00

obligation to keep her on the air, so they

46:03

thought it over, shifted things around—I don’t know,

46:05

the horoscopes,

46:07

the home shopping block—somewhere in between.

46:09

Wait, can’t you just pay

46:11

to have it moved in the schedule and put it on at

46:13

7 p.m.? No, you can’t. Well, no—that would be too

46:15

great a loss for the TV channel, and a loss

46:17

for them too, because they would

46:18

lose regular viewers who at that

46:22

time might discover some cool shows on

46:24

other channels—like Vladimir Solovyov’s stuff.

46:26

Great programming, really. Let me show you

46:29

something.

46:31

A note she wrote several years

46:34

ago, in 2011.

46:35

Nailya, let’s look at the headline.

46:38

Enter: Noel Asker-zade, Navalny...

46:40

dot, stormy, VTB—I wrote about this on my

46:42

Telegram channel. I mean, I know her,

46:44

and really, Nailya Asker-zade—

46:47

whom I used to call Nailya—why did she

46:49

suddenly become Naila, and why did I have to retrain myself

46:51

along with everyone else? Everyone had to relearn it.

46:54

Even my Tatar friends wrote to me

46:56

asking, “Why are you saying Nailya? You should

46:58

say Naila.” It turned out that it all started

47:02

because Nailya Asker-zade herself

47:05

decided to call herself Naila Asker-zade, and

47:07

we somehow also decided to call her that

47:11

because that’s what she called herself. We

47:12

twisted ourselves into knots over it, I mean,

47:14

it took monstrous effort from me—we, we, we

47:16

did a million retakes: of course, Naila...

47:19

Asker-zade, watch the broadcast, Naila...

47:21

We really did try, deliberately.

47:24

Eighty percent of the takes were ruined because

47:26

it kept coming out as Nailya. But in the end we decided

47:28

to settle on one version or the other. Yes, I know how

47:33

to say it correctly—correctly, it should be Naila, they

47:35

say Nailya York, Naila Asker-zade, Naila...

47:39

because she wants to be called Naila Asker...

47:41

or—well, okay—Naila Asker-zade. In short,

47:45

it was complicated. We sorted it out, although it was

47:49

not easy. The yacht—the yacht was genuinely very

47:53

hard to find. The thing is, it was beautifully

47:55

well, I actually saw it live from the pier—great

47:58

I saw it. I crawled in—not through, not

48:02

from above, but through the fence, somehow moved

48:04

the fence aside, squeezed through, and from the back it was covered in scaffolding, so

48:07

it was hard to make out. We still hadn’t

48:09

looked from...

48:11

How did I know it was in Barcelona? Excellent question.

48:15

I knew it was in Barcelona because it

48:17

constantly sends out signals about

48:19

its location, just like the plane does—like

48:22

aircraft do. And on her Instagram, too,

48:24

she was constantly signaling to us that she was

48:26

somewhere in Nice, Monaco, Tanzania—but

48:30

she also showed at least a little bit of caution, Asker-

48:34

zade.

48:35

She was always shifting the timing on her

48:38

Instagram: she would go somewhere,

48:39

wait a couple of days,

48:40

or even a week, and only then post it.

48:42

So it was fairly difficult to compare her

48:45

trips with the plane’s flights—for example,

48:47

the trip to Tanzania. But it turned out that

48:49

the business jet flies from Moscow to Tanzania.

48:51

They fly around a bit every day, and

48:53

even so, Asker held it back and posted it

48:58

four weeks later—a photo from Tanzania—and

49:01

we, like idiots, went through all of it,

49:03

all those not-very-cunning little tricks,

49:06

a sneaky move, but still, we took

49:10

for sure—two clues, she told me, how do you put it,

49:12

my little devil, always resourceful,

49:16

as they say.

49:16

We took large datasets; we basically

49:20

took a large dataset on the plane’s flight

49:22

and looked at which coastal

49:25

cities it flew to, and we understood that

49:27

there was a yacht—she kept posting some kind of

49:28

similar little snippets on

49:30

Instagram and VKontakte (a Russian social network), but

49:32

it was impossible for anyone to identify it from those, so we

49:34

took all the coastal places the plane had flown to,

49:38

selected the four most likely

49:40

cities: Nice, Genoa, Olbia—that’s

49:43

Italy—and Cyprus, and looked at

49:47

when the plane was there. We simply took plus

49:50

or minus two to three days from each date,

49:53

got data on all the vessels that were there,

49:56

and it came to some millions of records,

49:58

including about 5,000 yachts, and then we started

50:03

cross-checking all that data, and it turned out

50:05

that only one yacht

50:07

had been in all four places. We

50:09

looked at photos online and compared them

50:11

with the photos we had, and it turned out that

50:13

it was the real thing. We went there, filmed it, and

50:15

well, and you can see it’s sending out

50:17

a little signal that the yacht is in Barcelona.

50:18

Barcelona is big—there are probably lots of

50:20

marinas there, or for a yacht of that size, I

50:22

suppose only a few.

50:23

Well yes, of course—it’s docked in the main,

50:26

the very main port of Barcelona right now.

50:29

Let’s move on.

50:30

Right now, I think it has arrived in Spain,

50:33

it just also—well, it returned to

50:35

Spain—no, not Spain, to

50:38

Italy, to

50:40

well, anyway, somewhere in Italy now. You can

50:42

find online without any problem where it

50:44

is docked right now just by searching for sean dos

50:46

position.

50:47

All of that can be found, and it ended up

50:49

in Barcelona. In Barcelona, of course, finding it was

50:51

not that difficult. We could say that

50:53

finding it in Boston would be very hard—we’d have

50:55

to walk all over Barcelona—but no, harder

50:56

than reading a sign, harder than a nameplate

50:58

among thousands of berths in Barcelona.

51:00

But this yacht broadcasts fairly precise

51:03

data about its location, down to

51:04

within so many meters. You just come over and

51:06

see the yacht. Filming it was fairly

51:08

risky there in Barcelona,

51:10

but we managed it. We filmed who those

51:13

people were who were doing yoga on

51:16

it—but that was some of the yacht’s crew. There are only

51:19

15 crew members on the yacht, and some of

51:21

them were there permanently—they live there, by the way.

51:22

So, Kostin and—or Kostya—

51:27

they’re paying, and so are the viewers

51:30

of this program and other citizens

51:32

of the Russian Federation.

51:33

We are paying to maintain a sixty-two-meter

51:36

(203-foot) yacht and a permanent staff of 15

51:39

people. They live there on what amounts to a permanent business trip.

51:41

An interesting arrangement: people get paid,

51:43

as if they were sent there on assignment.

51:45

That’s at least €34,000 a month, which is higher than

51:49

the average salary in Russia—well, yes.

51:50

So 10 to 15 of them, at minimum, live there

51:53

permanently, and we are constantly paying for it.

51:55

Of course, I even read about their yoga mats

51:58

on this yacht. I also read that

52:00

maintaining a yacht like this costs about

52:02

€3 million a year, all told.

52:05

That sounds about right, though I have no personal experience

52:09

with maintaining a 62-meter yacht.

52:12

In the Beautiful Russia of the Future (an anti-corruption political slogan), but

52:14

this is an ужасно inefficient way to spend money on

52:17

these jets, these planes—just an enormous

52:19

sink for huge amounts of money, of course, all taken from you.

52:20

There is, admittedly, a certain romanticism in this person.

52:23

It’s a terribly inefficient way to spend money, though.

52:26

How much would you value Georgy’s love in

52:29

terms of a plaque in Central Park? Well, you

52:30

don’t calculate expenses when it comes to your beloved girl,

52:32

you give her a yacht paid for by a state

52:34

bank—you’re not paying for anything yourself, so why count?

52:37

You don’t count how many hundreds of thousands of liters

52:39

of fuel you’ll need to go somewhere,

52:40

you don’t count anything, you don’t think about any of it,

52:42

you just make a grand gesture

52:44

and throw a yacht at your beloved’s feet.

52:47

And let these people pay for it—there they are,

52:49

running around there, earning their 22

52:52

thousand rubles a month, of course.

52:53

But if a person counted money even a little,

52:56

he would never

52:57

do something like that—obviously not. But these

52:58

aren’t his money, so he can do

53:00

absolutely anything. And where you were filming,

53:02

was that the biggest one you filmed?

53:04

Was it the biggest yacht? No, it wasn’t the

53:07

biggest, but it was one of the more

53:08

impressive ones. It was in that range where

53:11

for a superyacht, of course, by

53:13

its specifications, it definitely is a superyacht.

53:15

I thought a superyacht meant something over 100

53:16

meters, but apparently the threshold starts lower,

53:19

more like 50. Since we’ve talked so much,

53:21

let’s watch the video once more

53:24

that Georgy filmed in Barcelona, how

53:27

he got in there, slipping past a little fence down to the dock,

53:29

sliding through, sneaking past the fence and everything.

53:32

In front of us is the 62-meter (203-foot) yacht si en

53:37

dos. Look at it—how beautiful it is.

53:39

Even despite the fact that it’s surrounded by scaffolding,

53:42

don’t worry, it won’t get in our way. We

53:45

arm ourselves with a few photographs of the

53:47

yacht and begin the search.

53:49

To begin with, we find the helipad.

53:51

Right there on the yacht—very classy. Let's begin.

53:54

With this photo—you'll agree,

53:56

it was taken here. We can see the same

53:58

railings and some kind of metal post, and

54:01

right here nearby.

54:02

This photo of Nailya will come in handy.

54:04

She's sitting on a low railing, and you can see some kind of

54:07

round porthole near her feet.

54:08

That's the spot. We keep looking, moving on to

54:12

the helipad, and so far we haven't found anything,

54:14

except for girls doing

54:16

yoga on the upper deck. I see a dog

54:18

doing downward dog. We don't know who it is—sorry for the disturbance.

54:21

We'd really like to find

54:23

the staircase from this photo. It has

54:25

a turn in it, and glass is visible on both sides.

54:28

We're looking for the staircase, checking—this isn't it.

54:30

It doesn't look like it at all. Likewise, judging by

54:33

the blank wall—there's nothing there, just some kind of entrance

54:36

showing up. This definitely isn't our staircase.

54:38

So where is it? Wait—there it is.

54:41

Look, that's our staircase. Hooray, we found it!

54:43

There is no doubt left. All that's left

54:46

is to say that a yacht like this costs $62

54:50

million, or 4 billion

54:53

rubles.

54:54

We're being watched live by 56,000

54:57

people, and several dozen have already

55:00

taken part in the contest to guess

55:02

where Nailya and Svetlana will fly next.

55:04

The Medvedeva battle. Do you remember the game *Mortal*

55:07

*Kombat*? Of course I do. This is Nailya Asker-

55:10

zade, this is Svetlana Medvedeva, and this is

55:13

a battle of corrupt officials' women. Which one

55:17

has what superpowers? Who would you bet

55:18

on? Well, Nailya obviously has

55:21

that, while Svetlana has

55:23

her own strengths.

55:23

Well, she's cunning in the way she handles

55:26

Instagram—she's clever.

55:27

She holds back, you see. She understands that people are watching her,

55:29

and Svetlana Medvedeva—on her

55:31

side, I think, she has a bit more mana.

55:33

But this is probably a different kind of player. Who is

55:37

more competent? But here,

55:40

to be fair, one hides the money and

55:44

property their husbands and

55:46

boyfriends stole.

55:47

Who operates more skillfully?

55:48

More skillfully, surprisingly enough, Svetlana. By the way,

55:50

here in this video she's the former first lady and the wife

55:52

of the prime minister. You'd think she'd have at least some kind of

55:54

public life, but

55:56

nevertheless, all her public appearances

55:58

in public, officially, are at most once

56:00

a year—more typically once every

56:02

two years—and she doesn't show up anywhere at all.

56:04

So of course it's harder to expose her.

56:06

Her stealth skill is much higher.

56:09

Still, she's a well-known

56:11

person, and we showed photos there

56:14

that, supposedly, were taken by a Cypriot taxi driver.

56:16

By the way, saying, "I found it, I googled it across all

56:18

social networks"—

56:24

the people sitting here use

56:26

the internet. No need to tell fairy tales.

56:28

Either someone sent it to you,

56:29

or Sechin (Igor Sechin, a powerful Russian state oil executive) from the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service) is your patron, because

56:33

if I start googling right now

56:35

"photo of Svetlana Medvedeva with her son

56:37

taken by a taxi driver," I'll be flooded with junk—that is, I

56:40

won't find anything. I searched on Instagram.

56:43

I mean, I went onto Instagram, entered

56:46

the hashtag for Svetlana Medvedeva, something with her name,

56:48

her patronymic, and

56:50

put it in. There weren't that many photos there—

56:52

only 800,000. You can look through them yourself.

56:55

I think you looked through photos

56:57

of Nastya Rybka when they were conducting

56:58

their investigation. You understand that you can

57:00

look through thousands of photos on Instagram

57:02

and

57:02

nothing terrible will happen. So it's all

57:05

because you lost a day of vacation. Do you realize you just lost your day

57:07

of

57:09

vacation?

57:10

All right then: some woman gets off a plane,

57:12

and around her we see

57:15

a large number of security guards running around.

57:16

That means any curious onlookers

57:19

would start taking pictures of her. So where are those

57:22

photos? How does she hide them all?

57:23

You can't hide that.

57:24

Apparently you've never flown on a

57:27

private jet. I haven't either,

57:28

but I've spent quite a lot of time tracking private

57:30

planes, including Svetlana Medvedeva's

57:32

plane.

57:36

It lands over there and goes to

57:38

some farthest parking area at

57:40

Vnukovo, where a car picks her up,

57:42

and she drives away with flashing lights

57:44

and some people escorting her, and

57:46

that's impossible to catch. Fine, in Vnukovo maybe—but

57:47

she flew to Jerusalem or to Cyprus,

57:50

well, the same thing happens there too: a car comes,

57:52

she leaves, and that's it. No one

57:54

sees anything. Of course no one can photograph it.

57:56

Naturally. Not just photograph it—

57:57

they'd simply cut it out. Having found these people, she is

58:00

super-important, of course. Catching her takes a

58:04

special skill.

58:06

And of course Nailya's skill is demonstrativeness—

58:10

obviously. I mean, she

58:13

shows off her trips; she isn't

58:15

embarrassed by it, unlike Medvedeva.

58:16

So, let's put it this way: to track

58:20

Svetlana Medvedeva's movements, we

58:22

had to work much harder than

58:24

we did to track the movements

58:25

of Askerzade. That's something that, of course,

58:29

is astonishing, no doubt. But a state

58:31

TV host, a state banker—and yet

58:34

they're not presidents or any official

58:36

figures. There's money there, but not that much. Do you

58:38

really think they

58:39

just don't care? I mean, what do

58:43

they think? What are they all sitting there thinking?

58:46

Right now, at home, watching this program, they’re probably...

58:49

talking among themselves, like, “There are these two...”

58:51

clowns on YouTube trashing us.”

58:54

And in their defense, what can they even say?

58:56

Obviously, they’re not saying, “Ladies and gentlemen, yes...”

58:58

...let’s call things by their proper names...”

58:59

...I’m a thief.”

59:00

And what could Svetlana Medvedeva say?

59:02

Well, wait, listen, Medvedeva there...

59:04

...she’s sitting there for now...

59:05

...with Ilya and Kostin. He’s a rich man...

59:10

...he bought me something, so what...

59:12

...was I supposed to refuse? And of course...

59:14

...you’ve got to post it on Instagram so that...

59:16

...they all die of envy. Of course you do.

59:18

You’ve got to show it all off; you can’t hide it.

59:20

That I’m sailing on a yacht—well, fine, I...

59:23

I’m Andrei Kostin, and I say, “Ellochka...

59:25

my dear...”

59:26

“But how are we going to explain, damn it, 62...

59:30

million? Somehow 60 million for a plane...

59:32

120 million dollars—how can we...

59:36

explain where you secretly got...

59:38

that kind of money?” And what does she answer? “I don’t...

59:40

know, don’t worry about it.

59:45

Everything will be just fine. I won’t...

59:46

post any photos that might...

59:48

expose us.” Well, that turned out great.

59:52

All right, and Svetlana Medvedeva—how do you think...

59:54

...she explains the need...

59:57

...to fly everywhere on a private jet?

1:00:00

“Security”? “I’m too important”?

1:00:02

Or “I believe in God too much”? But anyway...

1:00:04

...she and her husband worked so hard...

1:00:08

...worked so much, stole so much...

1:00:10

...how could I possibly live without it now?” She herself may not have...

1:00:13

stolen anything directly, but she uses it all, she travels...

1:00:15

She probably just pretends she doesn’t know...

1:00:18

where the plane came from. She goes around to ten...

1:00:22

residences registered to foundations...

1:00:24

all year round, constantly—and she doesn’t...

1:00:26

understand what’s going on? Of course she does.

1:00:27

She literally...

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flies on a stolen plane...

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lives in a stolen house, and well, how does she...

1:00:34

talk about it with her son Ilya?

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The young man is generally...

1:00:37

...affected by all these investigations too; it’s hard for him as well.

1:00:38

Though somehow he’s hanging on—for now.

1:00:41

Let’s look at the 36-minute mark, at how...

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we found Medvedeva’s plane, and then...

1:00:48

Georgy will tell us why this...

1:00:50

was, after all, harder than...

1:00:52

with Medvedeva, who is absolutely not a public...

1:00:54

and extremely well-protected person. Even so...

1:00:57

we managed to find a decent number...

1:00:58

of references to private visits, both in Russia...

1:01:01

and abroad, and all of them line up with...

1:01:04

the movements of a private jet.

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VTB, Kemerovo: news reports that because of the arrival...

1:01:10

of Medvedev(a), half the city was shut down. Israel...

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April 2016: Svetlana Medvedeva makes a...

1:01:16

pilgrimage.

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And here the plane lands—we initially have no idea...

1:01:19

where. It’s a military...

1:01:22

air base in the Kulebaki urban district...

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near the border of the Vladimir and...

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Nizhny Novgorod regions. What would our Svetlana...

1:01:30

be doing there? But she’s going to Murom...

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which is about 20 kilometers (12 miles) away...

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and there she celebrates the Day of Family, Love, and...

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Fidelity (a Russian holiday promoting family values).

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Next, a visit to St. Petersburg to visit...

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the Kronstadt Naval Cathedral.

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Then Ivanovo, and a visit to the opening of a summer...

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festival in Plyos.

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June 2017: the plane flies to Cyprus...

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and we find a photo of Svetlana...

1:01:51

Medvedeva in Cyprus on that very day...

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posted by a local guide/taxi driver.

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Then Murom again, for the next...

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Festival of Family, Love, and Fidelity, and then in...

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March of this year...

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Jerusalem, where she venerated holy sites...

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at exactly the same time the plane was there.

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And then in the summer, St. Petersburg...

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Kronstadt again. This time...

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Even some Greek aviation enthusiasts from...

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the island of Kos, who track flights to...

1:02:16

their island, discovered that in the summer...

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of 2012, on this very plane...

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Svetlana Medvedeva and...

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Ilya Medvedev flew in to see them.

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At the time, he was Dmitry Medvedev’s 17-year-old son...

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and they wrote exactly that on their website...

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in plain language.

1:02:31

A user sends us a funny comment:

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“Navalny Live with guests looks...

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more interesting and dynamic...”

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but the studio feels cramped.” All right...

1:02:40

Nawalny, tell us...

1:02:42

please, about all these photos. But I think...

1:02:45

that, by the way, all these...

1:02:46

photos have still been preserved, so everyone...

1:02:48

can look at them. Well, the Cypriot taxi driver...

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who had the photo with Medvedeva deleted...

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the photos from the internet. Is he still alive?

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Polina starts: “Wouldn’t it be great...

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if there were, for example, some way...

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to take some photos from the...

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internet and save them? That would be...

1:03:03

great—to make use of such a...

1:03:04

possibility, we definitely would.”

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But I think of course you do have that; I don’t even...

1:03:13

know why I didn’t think of it right away.

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Yes, yes...

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Still, tell us please...

1:03:24

why it was harder to track Medvedeva than...

1:03:27

someone like Mask (likely meaning a more public figure).

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Because Medvedeva doesn’t put herself out there anywhere.

1:03:29

Because she doesn’t post on Instagram where...

1:03:31

she’s gone, and she keeps everything closed off...

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So you have to find some mention of it too...

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maybe in some Saratov newspaper...

1:03:39

and that’s pretty hard to find. It’s not like...

1:03:40

some Instagram account where everything is right there...

1:03:42

and easy to dig up. So yes, she’s definitely better at hiding it...

1:03:46

Svetlana Medvedeva is definitely more careful than...

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Asker, yes, because he writes.

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Because they don't post on Instagram, and...

1:03:53

...and leads a much more God-fearing way...

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...of life — that's what you think. But now, after all this...

1:03:58

...after this investigation came out, will they...

1:03:59

...use the yacht less? Well...

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Of course not. I mean, if you have yachts, are you...

1:04:04

...not going to use them? Of course you are.

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They'll keep using them. At first, everyone will just endlessly...

1:04:08

...be tracking them from every possible angle...

1:04:11

...looking for the plane, and every time...

1:04:13

...they go somewhere, everyone will be on Twitter...

1:04:15

...and in Telegram channels condemning it: there she goes again...

1:04:17

...off somewhere. But nothing serious will happen.

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They'll keep using it; they won't give it up.

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Shuvalov didn't give it up — he still uses it, still flies.

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They'll just put up with the criticism...

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...and sail away on their yachts. Thank you very much...

1:04:26

...Georgy, for telling us how it all...

1:04:29

...was.

1:04:29

All right, I also have one more funny thing...

1:04:33

...some backstage footage, a video of how...

1:04:35

...the recording actually happens. Everyone thinks...

1:04:38

...we have some kind of super-professional...

1:04:41

...studio...

1:04:41

...and a huge number of assistants.

1:04:43

Last time, what did it look like, who...

1:04:46

...was improving the studio in Moscow so that I...

1:04:49

...wouldn't have to record with the beauty...

1:04:51

...of the night city in the background?

1:04:56

What do the staff do? How are the videos actually...

1:05:00

...made? Investigating the Christmas tree?

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1:05:14

Liqueur.

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We need to pick some for Lucy.

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Alexander came over and knows a good...

1:05:20

...viewing. We found out that on the plane was the wife...

1:05:22

...of Medvedev, because this...

1:05:23

...was an aviation spotter from Ufa Airport...

1:05:25

...who photographs planes there, and they know who...

1:05:26

...is arriving. And this Finnish Armada — excellent.

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All right, thanks a lot, Georgy. What did you...

1:05:33

...like more: chopping down a Christmas tree or searching for...

1:05:35

...a sign in Central Park — I mean, in the central...

1:05:37

...park? That was nicer, wasn't it?

1:05:39

Squirrels running around, maybe feed a squirrel...

1:05:40

...like Robert Schlegel. I understand, it's hard...

1:05:43

...physical labor. Schlegel, you just love...

1:05:46

...everything foreign. Thanks a lot, Georgy.

1:05:47

We're waiting — don't ask...

1:05:50

Creative plans — we're all waiting for something...

1:05:53

...interesting from you. Thanks a lot.

1:05:55

And now, for the moment, let's listen to the legal...

1:05:59

...grounds for why...

1:06:01

...Medvedev should resign, because...

1:06:04

...what we did wasn't just...

1:06:06

...we found something, published it, great...

1:06:08

...we all laughed at them...

1:06:10

...and they laughed at us for being suckers...

1:06:12

...and saying it was all paid for.

1:06:13

But the situation with Medvedev's plane...

1:06:16

...specifically is grounds for...

1:06:19

...Medvedev's resignation, and this is what...

1:06:21

...the foundation's director and lawyer, Ivan Zhdanov, says.

1:06:23

Let's take a look. Dmitry Anatolyevich...

1:06:25

...Medvedev is also a lawyer. He's written entire books...

1:06:27

...on law, so he knows perfectly well...

1:06:30

...one thing: an airplane is immovable...

1:06:33

...property.

1:06:34

Even though it flies, this...

1:06:36

...is set out in Article 130 of the Civil...

1:06:38

...Code of the Russian Federation. The right...

1:06:41

...to use immovable property must be...

1:06:44

...declared.

1:06:45

Let's look at Medvedev's declarations. Here there is...

1:06:48

...an apartment...

1:06:49

...but they somehow forgot to mention the plane. It's not there. Nor is the dacha...

1:06:52

...in Plyos, and a lot of other things.

1:06:54

But the story of using the plane...

1:06:57

...by Svetlana Medvedeva is very telling. We...

1:07:00

...proved one hundred percent that Svetlana...

1:07:02

...Medvedeva uses the plane, but this...

1:07:05

...is not in Dmitry Medvedev's declaration.

1:07:08

For any government official...

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...this is one hundred percent grounds...

1:07:12

...for resignation.

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Did you notice what a wonderful...

1:07:16

...photograph is standing on the desk of the director...

1:07:18

...apparently someone from the family. And to wrap up...

1:07:23

...the program, I'll still take a couple more minutes...

1:07:25

...of your time. I just kind of want to...

1:07:27

...bring you back from Barcelona, from yachts, fancy planes...

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...expensive things flying somewhere...

1:07:33

...and drop straight back into Mother Russia.

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The city of Krasnoturyinsk, which was probably remembered...

1:07:38

...by many, many viewers of our program — excuse me...

1:07:42

...I remember it because...

1:07:44

...the head of that city is one...

1:07:46

...of the simply most brazen people on earth, and...

1:07:49

...quite recently he was scolding the public...

1:07:51

...the people gathered there because they...

1:07:53

...hadn't voted well enough for United...

1:07:56

...Russia (the ruling political party), and therefore the city didn't receive...

1:07:59

...additional money from the budget. And...

1:08:00

...he said that next time you'd better...

1:08:02

...vote better, and then there will be more money.

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Let me remind you of that video for a couple...

1:08:05

...of seconds. At the present moment, when we...

1:08:09

...have become fourth from the bottom, we have no...

1:08:11

...future. On May 17 there will be the next...

1:08:15

...election to the Legislative Assembly of Sverdlovsk...

1:08:17

...Region, and accordingly, if we...

1:08:20

...vote the same way or even worse, then...

1:08:23

...accordingly, you will get nothing.

1:08:27

I'm from... and I don't know the name of the park, but...

1:08:32

...this is our future, and the authorities are asking...

1:08:35

...us: support our candidate...

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...dear friends, let's...

1:08:38

...support him. Once again I want to say...

1:08:41

...we voted 8, we got 13.

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As of today, the result is that we do not...

1:08:47

...have a second school, no... and no...

1:08:50

...which they promised to build for us. Once again...

1:08:54

...I want to say: we may have different...

1:08:55

...attitudes toward this...

1:08:56

...but this is the result of the attitude toward the city of...

1:09:00

...Krasnoturyinsk.

1:09:02

If they ask you, then please...

1:09:05

you do what the authorities want from you

1:09:07

the mayor of Krasnoturyinsk tells us, and quite

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recently, the authorities asked for something like this:

1:09:11

a deputy from United Russia, Mr.

1:09:15

Shipulin, a former

1:09:17

skier, a former well-known athlete, and

1:09:19

now a United Russia official, came to

1:09:21

some school to present awards to someone there.

1:09:23

At this time of year, in that part of the

1:09:27

Russian Federation, it is quite cold, but

1:09:30

in order for the United Russia politician to get

1:09:32

a nice photo op with students from the local

1:09:34

school,

1:09:35

the schoolchildren were forced out to a ceremonial assembly, where they

1:09:38

stood waiting. The United Russia politician was late; he had

1:09:41

some business to attend to, while the schoolchildren stood there

1:09:43

and stood there, waiting for him in the freezing cold. It was very

1:09:47

cold, but the authorities had asked for it, and so

1:09:49

they were not allowed to leave.

1:09:50

And the teachers, the principal, the local

1:09:52

administration—they deliberately kept

1:09:54

the schoolchildren out in the cold so that

1:09:56

the United Russia politician could arrive, hand out some gifts,

1:09:58

probably pens, and leave. That is exactly what

1:10:00

happened, and the local

1:10:02

public page Krasnoturyinsk Life wrote about it.

1:10:04

And now the authorities of this city

1:10:09

are demanding that this public page be shut down because

1:10:12

they wrote about it, and they are accusing them of

1:10:15

something like this—well, it is obvious why

1:10:17

they are shutting them down:

1:10:18

for using the city's coat of arms

1:10:22

on that very public page. I mean, this is just

1:10:25

completely absurd.

1:10:27

What a great setup they have:

1:10:29

they fly over us in jets, drive around in SUVs, and

1:10:32

sail around us on yachts, while

1:10:34

we are supposed to send ourselves—or our children—out

1:10:38

into the freezing cold so we can stand there and serve as

1:10:41

extras for some damn shabby

1:10:44

run-of-the-mill United Russia politician who simply

1:10:46

needs a photo for social media.

1:10:48

And if you do not like standing out in the cold

1:10:51

and if you so much as write about it, then

1:10:54

your public page will be shut down because

1:10:56

the authorities asked for it—so please, obey.

1:10:58

Do we need authorities like that? We do not. I

1:11:01

think that is a rhetorical question, so I

1:11:03

once again call on all viewers of this

1:11:06

program not to stay silent, to fight, and to make sure

1:11:10

that sooner or later

1:11:11

the ones standing out in the cold in Krasnoturyinsk will be

1:11:13

not us, but Asker-zade (a Russian TV host), banker

1:11:15

Kostin, Medvedev, and all the other people

1:11:18

who are parasitizing our country.

1:11:20

Thank you very much to everyone who watched.

1:11:22

See you next time.

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