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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it's exactly 8:00 p.m.
which means that we're live on air
with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am the host,
Alexei Navalny, or "the aging blond,"
as I was called
by Margarita Simonyan during our
rather amusing exchange on the social
network Twitter, where, it seemed to me,
I made a fairly successful joke. All of this was
connected to Medvedev's plane, and today we will discuss it.
Today I will have a guest,
Georgy Alburov, and together we will discuss
the details of how we conducted
the investigation into Navalny's—sorry, into the plane, the yacht,
everything else, and also Svetlana
Medvedeva's plane. And on top of that, in connection with
this, we have a prize giveaway in our
store. There's a new
collection: T-shirts, absolutely
wonderful ones,
and there is—I'm not sure I can even say this
word live on air—a bandana. I don't know
why bandanas exist in this world at all.
What's more, tomorrow I will post on my Instagram
a photo.
Don't get your hopes up, of course, that I—
our guys did, after all, make me
put the bandana on—not on my head, no, on my
arm, actually—but I still
felt rather strange.
But anyway, a T-shirt, a T-shirt, and
a bandana—we're giving them away, we're
inviting you to take part in this
giveaway. To participate,
you simply need to go below and
look in the description, follow the link,
send us a donation of any amount there,
starting from 200 rubles (about $2), and guess which place,
which next city the plane will fly to.
Absolutely wonderful.
The wonderful TV host—Navalny, of course—
which city will the plane fly to
of Svetlana Medvedeva?
Well, Svetlana's plane is nicer,
so the T-shirt goes to whoever guesses
Navalny's plane, and the bandana to whoever guesses
Medvedeva's plane.
But one important thing that Georgy Alburov asked me
to clarify: except for Moscow
and St. Petersburg, because right now these
planes are currently in Dubai and somewhere
in the Netherlands, so to Moscow and
St. Petersburg they will most definitely
return. Those two cities do not
count—you cannot guess them.
All other cities are fair game, please.
Imagine yourself as Navalny—or rather,
imagine yourself as Svetlana Medvedeva.
Think about where you would like to fly
to relax or hang out, write it in, and maybe
you'll guess correctly. Next time, accordingly,
in the next broadcast I will say who our
winners are, we'll sum it up, and we will hand out
these wonderful T-shirts and other prizes.
Please send your questions on Twitter with
the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture; I will
put them on screen and read them. Once again,
I remind you that all the conditions
for participating in the giveaway are below in
the description of this broadcast. Well then, let's begin with
today's live broadcast. I wasn't the only one
who was live today. First, as a kind of warm-up,
Dmitry
Anatolyevich Medvedev appeared before me.
Let's be honest: it was a weak performance, and the most
interesting thing about Medvedev's broadcast
was exactly what he did not want: the audience was
running wild in that chat column on
YouTube—and everywhere else too. I mistakenly wrote on
Twitter that it was only there,
on NTV's YouTube channel, that they had opened
the chat. But it was also open on Rossiya 24 and
on some others as well—everywhere.
Thank you very much, huge thanks
to everyone who took part in this
action.
Demanding that journalists ask
Medvedev about Svetlana Medvedeva's plane.
We, in fact, from Medvedev
were not able to get an answer to this
question, but it was simply wonderful
to watch. So let's
just take a few seconds to see
what this broadcast looked like and how people
were reacting in the chat.
For the purpose of coordinating this reform—well, he began
to talk about the garbage reform. That sounds
rather grim, so we still try
to use a different term.
It's clear that that's not the main issue, but sometimes it is
partly about that too. It really is an entire sector
that exists in practically every
developed economy, namely methods
for disposing of solid municipal waste.
I think that, of course, Dmitry Anatolyevich
Medvedev and his PR people were quite upset
today, and yesterday too, of course.
They were upset when we released our
investigation about his wife's plane, the one on which
she flies, and it's unclear who
pays for it, because there was clearly
an attempt there to boost and improve
Medvedev's image, which of course was badly
shaken—or rather, I would say it collapsed—after
our film *He Is Not Dimon to You*.
Now the whole country knows that Medvedev, despite
the fact that he may not outwardly
look like some crude crook,
is in fact one of the biggest
corrupt figures in the country. He is the leader of the ruling
party, United Russia—not Putin, but Medvedev is its
formal leader.
I don't even know whether there are plans for him
to lead United Russia into the elections in twenty
twenty-one, but nevertheless there was clearly
some kind of plan to improve his image, and we
of course disrupted that a little.
I’m asking only about the plane, and he said nothing.
He didn’t answer. I watched the whole thing, absolutely all of it.
In our coverage afterward,
of this call-in show, it was basically like:
20 TV channels and zero questions about
the plane. Of course, that says a lot. But on the one hand, I want to say it shows the terrible level
of Russian journalism; on the other hand,
when you look at all those people there,
it’s hard even to call them
journalists.
Sure, their employment records probably say
“TV journalists”,
but they’re some very strange people
who ask questions that aren’t just
pre-approved, but also completely
bland and fake. And overall it all looked
exactly why I called this segment something like
“Good Night with Dmitry Medvedev” — the only thing missing
was for Khryusha and Stepashka (characters from the Soviet/Russian children’s TV show *Good Night, Little Ones!*)
to pop out from somewhere. Honestly, it was like some kind of
God...
Timur Batrutdinov was there too, asking
some question. Anastasia Ivleeva was there too,
asking a question. Some girl
from KVN (*Club of the Funny and Inventive*, a Russian comedy TV competition) / the *Ural Dumplings* comedy show was there too.
There was also just some cute little
girl with a question — or rather, he asked her something like,
“So, little girl, what books do you read?” and the girl
said something in response.
I mean, since we know for sure that
all of this was scripted,
there was an excellent piece on this in *Proekt* (an independent Russian investigative outlet),
by the way — go read it.
You won’t have the slightest doubt
that these were prepared setups. I mean,
you understand — they told the girl:
“Little girl, Dmitry Anatolyevich (a formal way of referring to Dmitry Medvedev by first name and patronymic)
is going to ask you what books you read, and you
please answer.” And we, the viewers, are supposed to
say, “Oh my God,”
“how wonderful,”
“look, Medvedev is talking to a little girl.”
And maybe, just maybe, we won’t hate him quite so much
for stealing
several billion dollars and building
various palaces — instead we’ll love him, and
love the United Russia party too.
So yes, it was a very strange
idea. Even if there hadn’t been the whole
story about our plane, it still would have been
a super weird idea. The saddest thing for me,
besides the fact that he said nothing
about the plane, was the participation of
Anastasia Ivleeva. She’s a great
girl, really — good for her, wonderful,
funny, and most importantly, she doesn’t depend on this state
for anything, and her whole life story is one she made
herself.
She was doing manicures in St. Petersburg, then made it through
Instagram and became the main
Instagram girl, and probably the most famous
kind of
female celebrity in Russia right now.
She did all of that herself, especially at the beginning,
without television, without any kind of
support — she built it herself. Good for her, that’s cool.
Why she came and acted as a backup singer
for this crook from United Russia,
I don’t understand. Of course, she could have — she really could have —
actually asked him about the plane herself.
No one would have killed her or done anything to her.
Though clearly the Friday TV channel probably
has some leverage over her and either made her
come or persuaded her to come. She looked
pretty strange there, and clearly out of place.
It’s unclear why she did it. I mean,
it’s clear why Medvedev needed it; it’s not clear
why Ivleeva did. And I’m very upset by it.
I hope she won’t take part anymore
in things like this,
in these rather shameful
stunts where she clearly gains
nothing. In fact, Medvedev
didn’t gain anything either. Watching all of it
was very interesting, generally speaking.
With these call-in shows, you can always
cut them up somehow,
pull out some especially juicy bits, and then
tear into the person hosting the call-in show,
the way various Kremlin guys do even with my
broadcasts. And as always, it’s easy to do that with Putin,
because Putin says all sorts of strange,
meaningless, stupid, dishonest
things — little bits and pieces
you can latch onto,
pick apart, discuss for at least a few minutes.
Some phrase here, some hellish story there.
But Medvedev is, well,
just such a
completely useless guy — he simply said
nothing interesting. Apparently the whole
PR strategy was to say absolutely nothing
sharp, nothing irritating,
and nothing interesting, because, well,
they’re afraid Medvedev might blurt out something wrong.
The only thing, of course, that caught my attention
there was
an interesting bit of reasoning from him about
healthcare. Let’s listen to how
Medvedev talks about it. It was supposed to be
some kind of “human moment” there,
where he simply
decided to speak human-to-human and explain how he
actually knows that in
Russia healthcare is in bad shape, how hard things are
for the Russian regions. [41 seconds]
At the same time, every year —
and often every month — I visit either
a clinic, a district hospital, or
a rural first-aid station, and the situation there
is very difficult. Vladimir Putin and I have, in a way, shared
these kinds of national impressions
on this subject. It just so happened that he was talking to people
in a small town, and I was in
others, naturally. And of course the overall
state of this primary care network
in a whole շարք of regions
is problematic.
depressing
Apparently, the idea was that we
would watch this and think, and say to each
other, “Well, look at Dimon (a nickname for Dmitry Medvedev) — he travels around the
regions, knows the country, sympathizes
with doctors.” It’s like this ordinary
conversation between ordinary people. You yourselves have said this a hundred
times and heard it a hundred times
— this exact phrase. He says there,
“You drive just 100 kilometers (62 miles) from Moscow — it’s a nightmare
what’s going on.”
Everyone always says that phrase because
it’s the pure truth. And he says,
“My God, what a horror, what things are like on the highway,”
“100 kilometers (62 miles) out — it’s a nightmare what’s going on.” And
it reminded me of a very recent
similar bit of commentary. There was a really super-mega
viral video where three pensioners are sitting there and
criticizing the authorities because the authorities do
everything badly, plainly — and they looked so sweet, so
natural, so convincing
and you really look at these three
pensioners and believe them: three old men on a bench
sitting there and telling the truth. Let’s
please take a look. 30 — not the nominal amount for
a bench in a commuter train — 37 seconds
the minimum amount is 11,000... 10... 83
million 200 thousand people
and on top of that employers, employers
quite often, unfortunately, break the law and
pay less... and how many millions of people
after those figures, and pay a little more
for this certificate, and look at the station, well
it really is like Vladimir Semyonovich is riding in a
commuter train, and people are saying to each other, “Did you hear, someone
heard? The government wants 5,000 rubles for a
certificate.” “Are you serious? 5,000 rubles — how is that even
possible? 5,000 to pay? People here have
salaries of 19,000 rubles, and some
and can you imagine, some have salaries of 7,000 rubles there
and for some maybe not 7,000 — there are 20
million people like that. And what about Fedyukovo there
985 thousand for a certificate... I’m not following... what madness
lawlessness
It’s just astonishing to watch all this, and
they’re plainly telling it — one thing is obvious:
this is also staged. They show these things on the news
so that, apparently, we
would look at it and say, “Ah, yes,”
“the government really is thinking about us, it remembers
that for an ordinary person, 5,000 rubles
for a certificate is a lot.” What’s striking is — I’ve got
a question here, I see: Viktor Medved...
“Alexei, why, against the backdrop of low ratings
and declining interest, don’t they cancel the live call-in shows
with Putin and the big press conferences
of Putin and Medvedev?”
Well, because apparently they are in all
seriousness convinced that this is great
— that these press conferences are great PR moves
You’re constantly surrounded by ultra-mega
bootlickers. In Putin’s case, and in
Medvedev’s too, but especially Putin’s — for 20 years
you’ve simply had people gathered around you
who don’t ask even any kind of
uncomfortable question. And coming back to it,
I just didn’t have time to include this video in the program
— Proekt, the publication Proekt,
published
a story about how the presidential
press pool works, and there’s an absolutely first-rate
story there. I didn’t have time to show the video; there’s
even a video where someone explains
— a person who worked for four years in this
presidential press pool. He says that
the main rule is: you must never
ask Putin an unsanctioned question — neither negative nor positive
you must not create any unsanctioned situation for Putin
never, under any circumstances. And he gives
as an example the time when, remember, Putin was driving across the
Crimean Bridge
some guys were sitting there, driving
a KamAZ truck, and an RBC correspondent got out of the truck
and said, “So, Vladimir Vladimirovich,
did you enjoy riding in the KamAZ?” And
Putin replied, “Super.” They published it,
and the correspondent was kicked out of the pool. Great
to be working as a journalist and get punished for asking
whether he enjoyed riding in a KamAZ truck.
Just imagine the degree of isolation from
the normal world, and the degree of their servility
in everything that’s happening around
them. He really likes it all; they surely
must have brought Medvedev the reports and said,
“You were incredible,”
“My God, Ivleeva (Russian TV host and blogger Nastya Ivleeva) was looking at you
with lovestruck eyes,”
“and Batrutdinov (Russian comedian Timur Batrutdinov) practically
looked ready to throw himself at you, and everyone adored you,”
“and you can’t imagine what was going on in the
chats, Dmitry Anatolyevich,”
“it was all hearts, hearts, and little airplanes
being posted constantly.” Apparently that means
those little airplanes were illustrating how your
approval rating would soar into the sky.
Well, maybe with Medvedev it’s harder to do that
— Medvedev knows how to use a
mobile phone and uses
the internet — but with Putin it most definitely
works. They like all of this; they
are convinced that it really is absolutely
great. Roman Zubakov asks me:
“Excellent investigation about Kosinsky
— by the way, how did you find out about the plaque
in Central Park in New York? Soon
Alburov will come here, and we’ll
ask him all these questions. But before
that, I wanted to say one important thing: there was
still one thing in Medvedev’s appearance that genuinely
outraged me — the part where he talked about
protests. Pay attention — now I’ll play you
1 minute 17 seconds.
The guy is basically admitting it. He says, “Well, these
protests arose as a kind of demand for
justice, but then there was blah blah...”
Basically: if you go to a protest, you shouldn’t be going to a protest
— but at the same time we understand that
you are driven by a desire to achieve justice.”
What drove it? Well, you went to the rally, and that's why—
—you were jailed.
At 1 minute 17 seconds, we can see that
the mood in society is changing, well, at
least in Moscow, there was a whole
wave of protest activity over the summer. It all started
with the Moscow City Duma elections. What do you think—
why did these sentiments in society
emerge at precisely this moment? And, well, if
that mood exists, then something must be creating it.
Obviously, there are probably some
shortcomings in the work of the law enforcement
system, and they need to be taken into account and, in some
way, something needs to be changed. But overall,
this triggered quite a powerful
demand for justice. In itself, that is
probably completely normal. The only question
is one thing: you and I understand perfectly well
that such problems cannot be solved on social media or in
the public square.
You can express your opinion—that is
absolutely normal—but expressing your
opinion still has to be done in the manner
provided for by the rules currently in force. And
no matter how much people say, well, that we
filed something or other and weren’t
allowed to do something—the law may
be to your liking or not, that's understandable,
but it still has to be obeyed. Otherwise we
could slide into very dangerous
situations that, in our country, could
turn into something really bad. That is,
you can feel that, basically, he is saying:
yes, well, this is normal, it's
normal, it really happens—people
felt injustice and started
fighting against injustice. But of course
they broke this rule. And he sits there
talking about it so calmly, as if the day
before that
they hadn’t demanded four years in prison for Yegor Zhukov over YouTube videos.
They demanded four years of
imprisonment.
Four years in prison. Initially,
they tried to accuse Zhukov of, well,
organizing some kind of unrest.
Then they realized they had simply, excuse me,
screwed up with that charge, when
they said: well, you know, in his
indictment it says the following:
"Zhukov experiences a feeling
of political hatred and hostility toward
the existing constitutional order in Russia,"
and "decided to involve an unlimited number
of persons in his extremist activities,"
which are "aimed at destabilizing
the socio-political situation in the Russian Federation."
Any normal person feels
political hatred and hostility toward
the existing system.
Any normal person. To some extent, I’m even
sure that Anastasia Ivleeva and Timur
Batrutdinov feel that
hatred and hostility too. Because, by the way,
I was just told that neither
one nor the other—I wanted to show you
some of their Instagram posts after
that meeting—but neither of them posted
anything, because they were ashamed. Their
TV companies made them go there.
Come on, they’re not idiots. Should they
post a picture on Instagram saying, "Oh, I asked
Medvedev a tough question"?
What would people say about them? But they don’t—
Ivleeva and Batrutdinov simply do not want
to take part in this. They know how people
feel about the current regime, and they
are actually jailing Zhukov. It’s just, well, I
don’t know—on a completely baseless
charge, they are trying to imprison him. I very
much hope that the hellish commotion
that the Higher School of Economics (HSE) stirred up around him—
in particular, that female candidate
from United Russia whom we
—thank you once again—managed to knock out of
the election—they feel some degree of
guilt
that their student is being imprisoned for nothing, and they
will probably, in the Kremlin, I very much hope,
manage this
to get him a suspended sentence. And, by the way,
I want to warn right away
those who will write:
"Oh, what a relief, a suspended sentence." No—
there is nothing good about a suspended sentence. In any
case, Zhukov will receive a verdict on the 10th.
Tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. in Kuntsevo District Court,
so come support him. And
there, too, there will one hundred percent be an
guilty verdict—an unjust
guilty verdict. We hope it will be
a suspended one at least, though for an innocent
person even a suspended sentence is still a conviction. They really—well,
there will be a guilty verdict there, one
hundred percent, absolutely one hundred percent. And so,
well, Medvedev says, yes,
I repeat, sorry, people were demanding
justice. Now, taking into account
a certain demand for social
justice, these people who
were demanding social justice were brought to this point
because we are going to jail them. Another
person, Nikita Chertov, was yesterday requested
to receive three and a half years in prison.
Let’s watch the video—33 seconds—showing
what exactly the state is demanding a
three-and-a-half-year prison sentence for.
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That’s it. Nothing else happened. He pushed the riot police officer in the chest
in the crowd. In court, the OMON officer (Russian riot police) said
that he experienced discomfort because he was
pushed in the chest with palms, despite being such a big guy.
Pushed in the chest—three and a half years
in prison. The person is absolutely
completely innocent. Tomorrow is actually
the day of verdicts in the Moscow case.
Zhukov’s starts at 10:00 a.m. in Kuntsevo.
in court. After that, at 11 o’clock, there will be a verdict for you
at the Tverskoy Court, and then also at the
Meshchansky Court there will be a verdict. Go to the
Mediazona website if you want to support someone
— choose whom to support and
come to this court hearing so that, well,
so that at least these people
feel that we are expressing
solidarity with them. We are certainly expressing
our solidarity with them. Right, I’m reading questions.
Medvedev says—Naric Vader writes to me
—Vadersky, Vader-something—about how one must
speak out without breaking the law. If that’s the case,
then, I confess, the article about freedom of speech can go to Jesus
because it no longer applies at all.
Exactly right. What does it mean to speak out without
breaking the law, if you nasty United Russia members
keep constantly changing that law? You’re just
constantly hemming us in.
A “foreign agent” here, a “foreign
agent” there—everyone who receives money
for example from YouTube monetization, they’re
foreign agents. A question from Vlevo Segodnya ("Left Today"):
what was Dmitry Anatolyevich thinking—won’t you
reopen YouTube for us? For me,
income from YouTube matters.
Dmitry Anatolyevich, the leader of the ruling
United Russia party, should be explaining
that, you know, Anastasia, maybe we won’t
switch it off, but really you’re only one step away
from being declared a foreign agent, because
you receive money from an American
company, on servers in California
terrible things are happening, and videos with
your jokes are stored there, so you are potentially
a foreign agent. And they themselves
keep piling on with new
rules, inventing new bans,
and then they say: but please, here, your
space is narrowing, narrowing, but
if you want to speak out, we’re all
for it—just please, right here, right there,
stand in the pen, put a
muzzle on yourself, and then speak, because
in the law that we, United Russia,
passed,
it says that freedom of speech exists, but
only, well,
only with a muzzle on. The law is the law, the law
is harsh, as the Romans used to say:
*dura lex, sed lex*—but it is the law. And these very people
who declare us foreign
agents and tell stories about some
monstrous West—they themselves live there, they themselves
move there. In that sense, with the exception of
the story about the plane, or
and Medvedev, the third biggest story
that happened this week is,
of course, my old acquaintance, one of the
leaders of the Nashi movement (a pro-Kremlin youth movement), which was
created to support Vladimir Putin—
Robert Shlegel. I’ve known him since those
ancient times, from way back when.
A long time ago I even organized a debate between
that Shlegel and the writer Dmitry
Bykov. In fact, I’ll show you a small
clip of a video where I’m interviewing him
and so on, from those ancient days, uploaded to YouTube
some hundred thousand years ago.
You asked how the debate I
organized went—let’s take just two seconds.
So, the Kremlin-backed Nashi movement, about
the Kremlin-backed Nashi movement, to think about
debates—well, that was worth mentioning.
The anti-fascist Nashi movement—but in any case we
congratulate you on your recent
birthday.
Here’s the person off camera supplying
us with birthday kompromat (compromising material); he
published it about himself—it was me. So, the movement
Nashi—really, now only its
fragments remain. Those people who were
leaders of the Nashi movement have turned into
some kind of nomenklatura whales—crooks and
thieves. Some are PR people, some are
ministers, some have become something else, but
all of them, of course, like traditional
officials, make money here, steal here,
here, while they themselves, of course, mostly
try to leave for the West. And Shlegel
outdid them all. This man
was the initiator of some of the most hellish
bills. He introduced a bill under which
the media themselves were supposed to pay some
absolutely фантастические fines for
defamation. Then he introduced
a bill restricting the screening in
Russia of foreign films. Foreign
films are terrible, they undermine the country’s “spiritual bonds” (a common conservative Russian phrase).
And his most famous bill
restricted freedom of speech on the
internet. He demanded that the TV channel
Dozhd (TV Rain) be shut down. And what did he do now? This
wonderful man emigrated to
Germany. It turned out that he became
a German citizen. And the wording
is simply delightful. As for Shlegel—
why is he hated by the progressive
public? Any normal
person would know: he pushed through that very
Dima Yakovlev Law (the Russian law banning U.S. adoptions of Russian children), under which
it was said that foreigners—Americans in
particular—
do not have the right to adopt a Russian
orphan. You know, this is a huge
problem in Russia: we have a great many
abandoned children. They live in orphanages,
especially sick children—no one wants
to adopt them in Russia, unfortunately.
They live in horrific conditions, they
die very young, and life is simply
an endless nightmare. Foreigners used to come here
to adopt them. In America there simply aren’t
large numbers of orphanages of that kind,
there’s no one there to adopt, so they
travel and adopt abroad, in poorer
countries, and Russia is one of them.
They adopted these children.
they were taken away and given
a normal life, and people like Schlegel
and Schlegel specifically said: no, you can't
take our children there, you'll take them away and
give them proper medicine? No, let them
stay in orphanages — that's better than if they
go to America. And they stayed there, and there
they were even separated; the process of establishing
parenthood took quite a long time, and they separated those in
families that had already been formed
who were there formalizing, processing their
parental status, and during that process they were told
during the paperwork: that's it, goodbye,
leave, go back to the United States
this little child wants to stay in the
orphanage — that's what a United Russia member said
Schlegel, that hypocrite, with the line: I
want my children, who are from Russia, to grow up in
Germany. He leaves Russia, obtains
German citizenship, gets a job at a
German company
and says that he has, you know, my
overall attitude — that's what a man tells us
who headed Nashi (a pro-Kremlin youth movement) and was
the youngest State Duma deputy
he said, well, my attitude has
shifted, shifted into the realm of
apoliticism — I no longer want
to be involved in politics
I'm living here in Germany now, and I'm just
doing great. What staggering swinishness
The man lived and made money by
harming us, by making life in Russia worse
explaining it by saying he was standing up to
the West. To you, dear Petya, Manya, or Kolya from
Moscow or Vladivostok, Schlegel was saying
that this and that — and, Kolya, you're not entitled
to a free internet, because people over in
Germany will tell terrible things. He
pushed for that, he got it done, laws were passed
and then after that he said something like, I
did some crap, and it turned out I also have
children, and my children also want to live in a
normal country, so please, I'll move to
Germany, and let Petya, Manya, and Kolya stay
here
where young people just like me are growing up
who spout the same nonsense as the one you'll
hear now at the 47-second mark
He says that we have a future, which
means that we will be able to see
financial
[applause]
we'll win everything, we have Putin's plan, and
young people have a future
said Robert Schlegel. For a while
he hung around and collected a huge salary at
our expense, then said, well, what can you do,
there is no future, and left for Germany, saying
that he had shifted into apoliticism. All of them
will leave for there. There are two options
either this Putinist filth
falls apart and those in power
scatter like rats and settle down just fine
in Germany, where everything will be
good for them
or the second option: they scatter like
rats, but everything goes badly for them because
we will force their extradition and
put them all in prison here, because they stole
our money. There is no other option. The fact that
the entire Putin gang will scatter and
try to flee abroad is 100
percent certain — 146 percent (a sarcastic reference to implausibly inflated Russian election results). And the situation with
Medvedeva, Kostyonin, or whoever else
demonstrates this perfectly. Before
moving on to that topic, I want to say
and remind you that our campaign is still going on
the "I Stand For" T-shirt campaign. You know
that the criminal case against us hasn't
gone anywhere; it's still moving forward, and we're still
dealing with all of it. Nothing has been returned to us, and
things are being taken away from us; it's hard for us to keep going. We were
supported by all kinds of people, famous
and unknown — simply everyone who
donated to us
and continues to support us. That's wonderful. I'm very
proud to show you that a video in our
support was recorded by one of the most
well-known economists in the world, and certainly
the best-known and best Russian
economist, Sergei Guriev. In a long
interview — you probably saw it recently — with
Yury Dud (a prominent Russian interviewer), there was one minute where
Sergei Guriev spoke about the case involving
FBK
My name is Sergei Guriev. I am a citizen
of Russia, and only Russia. As an economist, I
know very well that in today's Russia there is
nothing more important than the fight against corruption
That is precisely why I regularly supported
FBK
from the very moment the foundation was established in 2012
I am completely satisfied with how
they spent my donations
I transferred to FBK my honestly
earned money, on which I paid
all taxes due. The tax authorities
of Russia, like the tax authorities
of other countries, have never had any
claims against me. That is why I am
outraged that my money was
seized and declared criminal proceeds
and I demand that my money be
returned to those to whom
it was voluntarily donated. I closely
follow all FBK investigations
and in every one of them there is plenty of work to do
for investigators from the Investigative Committee and
the prosecutor's office
Instead of fighting those who
fight corruption
start fighting corruption. Hands off
FBK
Many thanks to Sergei Guriev. And who do we have
here with us — Georgy Dobry? We have 49
thousand people watching live. Please tell
us, please, if Beautiful Russia of the Future
which is why, of course, we are effectively requisitioning planes for
or for Svetlana Medvedeva
to claim what language, really
the better plane is, of course, one or
because it is ten years newer, and it is
$10 million more expensive because
because now it is slightly bigger, and of course it is strange
quite enough, because the wife of the prime
minister, as she probably learned from
our investigation, does not fly quite as much on
not such an especially good plane, but
some kind of, or an Oscar for D from the TV channel
Russia, to fly on a plane that
is much more—my hands, by the way, speaking of
seriously, no joke, I am sure that one of the
reasons why VTB tried so desperately
to block our investigation everywhere was not
to scrub all the business media, because, well,
but in reality, exactly to bring it down—why, well, I do not know
a girlfriend's plane
really, probably there too, Medvedev has
a Bombardier Global 5000, while this one is a 6000, a Bombardier Global
6000, and the Bombardier Global is $10 million
more expensive. Come on, let us run an experiment
imagine that this is
Svetlana Medvedeva. You come to your
press conference, she stands there like this
and says: Dmitry, why does this
then some unprintable language follows
plane is better than mine? What is going on there with you?
What is happening in the government? You appointed Kostin
why does every damn
[unprintable], [unprintable], plane cost more than
mine? What do you answer? I would say: Sveta,
would you like to fly to the Emirates?
perhaps. And amazingly, today she
flew there, or perhaps that is not quite
right, excuse me, and there she is vacationing lavishly
but Medvedev's plane flew off, yes, it
left today. Do you think she flew there?
well, either she did or the son did, most likely, of course
well, the weather outside is such that, all in all,
the city
is better now
we are doing a giveaway—what did you want?
to receive, a bandana or a T-shirt? What
size T-shirt? Probably a bandana. Zakhar,
what size?
Yurgis wanted to fight for the bandana. I
remind you that you can send
donations to us—the link is below, from the stands
and indicate which city
she will fly to next time, or which next
city she will arrive in next time
Svetlana Medvedeva
from the options of St. Petersburg, Moscow, and the Arab
Emirates—the United Arab Emirates, but
because the plane arrived there today
already left, and it seems to me that it
dropped someone off there and then, on the way back, will pick someone up there
it вполне may pick someone up if someone is in
the United Arab Emirates. Where exactly, I do not
know; I will figure it out. If you are in the United Arab Emirates
then please look on the beach—it is quite
likely that you will see
Svetlana Medvedeva, or a woman in a
headscarf who will be looking for a place
to pray. At this point, Fleur, you are
really just roasting her now
Svetlana Medvedeva
in a completely astonishing way, this
all goes together—she practically never leaves
church
she really is this astonishing
combination: the fact that she
takes a jet stolen from VTB, stolen
from the entire Russian people, takes it
gets on it and goes somewhere to the other
end of the world to pray, while she is
photographed by some visitors
to monasteries, as she walks in a headscarf, and beside her
Ilya Medvedev is also walking, without a headscarf
he takes some candles from her and lights those
candles, and all of this is supposedly not public, but
nevertheless they do it while flying on
a private jet that was stolen from all of
us, and they fly around trying to atone for these sins
it is astonishing, though on the other hand
what are good Christians supposed to do if
their husband and father steals billions, but
they probably at least do not want this
to go uncompensated, so they try to atone for sins
first of all, one must
pray in Jerusalem. How do you get there?
Obviously, you fly there by plane; the luggage goes too
of course. Roman Zubakov asks
excellent, praise first, excellent
investigation, yes—but where did
you learn about the plaque in Central Park
in New York? Excellent question. Actually, I
will tell the truth in my defense, well
the thing is, that plaque was
put up for public display; it was put up so that
people would look at it, so people would know about it
earlier, because now many people there already
write that Venediktov somehow had a hand in it in
April, so he also, well, somewhere
spotted that plaque too, apparently. Everyone had their eyes
on it, but some tourists posted it
and we noticed it too, because, well, we
monitor unusual things like that
connected with New York and with Russian
officials; from time to time this comes into our
field of view, and among other things it came to
our attention—that plaque did. But we did not
fly there specifically to check
whether the plaque was there or not in
New York, so it sat with us for quite
a long time, and it just so happened that in May I
was on vacation. Naturally, I said
let us go, let us rush there while on vacation, to
the area
somewhere very far away—we arrived, and for that video
it was inconvenient, of course, and not by private jet
Central Park is huge, and there are benches there
literally by the thousands—more than 10,000 there, I
think around 15,000 of those benches—and I
remember very well, in Georgia flew you
They said, "Okay, please, Rosstat" (Russia’s federal statistics agency).
Find this bench. So I went out and got started.
From the subway to Central Park—then what?
Something like that, right in the middle of the park at that time.
I looked at the benches, checked one bench after another, and kept walking.
No, not that one—the bench—and I kept going.
Naturally, I had to look for some kind of staff member.
Someone from Central Park, so they could tell me that this one
bench was located exactly there, in the center, and
Who counts as Central Park staff? The police?
The ones walking around, or who is it exactly?
I spent a lot of effort—Hotel Park Conti.
Some official establishment connected with the park.
I poked around here and there, and there was nobody, but in the end
I found some kind of semi-official place.
The place was called something like Chess & Checkers.
There were some old guys there playing
chess, playing checkers with each other, and I
went up to the first person there in the middle of the park.
I said, "Hi, here’s a photo."
"It’s a plaque—just tell us how to find it."
But they were surprised. I had basically gone up to
just some random person who
had no idea—"from Russia, I’m looking for a photo from here."
It used to be right here.
The bench—Georgy’s English was rated at
Wikipedia.
But I wasn’t just asking anyone—there was a guy there
the person who hands out to the old men
the chess and checkers sets, who knows the layout
of Central Park.
So I went up again and said,
"Hi, there’s also this plaque—"
"Could you tell me how to find it?"
They were surprised and said, "We need some time."
"Let us ask around here, and in the meantime you can play checkers."
So we sat there and played checkers for an hour.
In the end, after an hour, a member of the
Central Park staff came over and said, "Hi, so, we
looked into it—it’s located in this area."
"That’s the most expensive area. Strange that this
plaque is there, because all the
super-expensive ones are there. The most expensive means
a plaque costs around 25—yes, yes, closer to
$25,000." I said, "Well,
great, that’s exactly the most expensive plaque we need."
They roughly drew a circle for us on a map
showing where it might be, and so we
went off to look for the plaque. We searched
and searched, and eventually found it. In fact, we
literally spent the entire daylight hours
trying to find that miserable plaque.
And by the way, you still owe us a vacation day.
You owe us a day off, time off.
Let’s vote on whether to give Georgy a day
off for this investigation.
It really did turn out to be very successful.
You’ll get your day off, Georgy, although in
your story there’s neither the FSB (Russia’s security service) nor the CIA,
just some people playing checkers. That’s really not the
level of detective work we were expecting from you.
But the part of the investigation where we’re looking for
the yacht—it really does seem like it, it looks
great. Let’s watch it at 1 minute 36 seconds.
Every airplane, private or not,
sends out a radio signal with its position.
Ships do the same, including
yachts.
Their coordinates at any given moment
can be found fairly easily. Besides that,
we have our madam’s Instagram, with hundreds of
photos and stories about vacations, and
so we have three sets of absolutely
public information from open
sources.
Instagram, the movements of her plane around
the world, and radar data on all
the yachts in existence worldwide. In other words,
theoretically, we can simply overlay
all of that and figure out which
yachts went out to sea in the cities
where the plane flew. It sounds
simple, but in practice, for example, in
the area around Nice, where her
plane was from July 30 to August 4, there were
5,234 boats that went out to sea. Among them
was definitely her yacht—but 5,000 is too many.
Among five thousand, we’re not going to find the right yacht.
So why not look instead
at other cities where our plane was?
We found which of those five thousand yachts
went out to sea in Albi, Italy, from the 14th
to the 17th of August, and our sample shrank
to 256.
Then we add Genoa, from August 30 to 31,
and the number of yachts drops to just 34.
And then we look at Cyprus, where
the plane was from June 30 to July 5, and the number of yachts
that were in those four places on
the right dates leaves us with exactly one.
Meet **Sea and Us**.
Sea and Us—you won’t believe how many times
while we were recording the video I tried
to pronounce the name correctly. 53,000
people are watching live, and I
want to remind you that we’re collecting
donations all these days and raffling off these
T-shirts and a bandana.
You can find the raffle rules in
the description below the video.
Please explain: how exactly do they
kind of give themselves away like that? And if we assume
that this is no longer Svetlana Medvedeva
and she doesn’t come aboard—let’s say she travels on it—
then why are traces of these flights visible everywhere?
Why don’t they just switch it off?
Because Eurocontrol requirements
and, more broadly, European and global
transport agencies include the rule
that you have to keep
this beacon on at all times, because
if some kind of insured incident happens
and it turns out that it was
switched off, then you can lose your insurance.
So of course they all have to use it.
You might say, "My God, they’ve got the whole
VTB Bank at their disposal" (a major Russian bank), but the question is: can they
just go ahead and switch off the transponder?
All right, we decided—they decided, according to them, over there in...
Monaco—to have some fun and throw a party
where someone jumps out of a champagne glass.
They brought in Timur Batrutdinov and knocked out a newcomer.
And then we won’t see them—of course, then we
won’t see them, but then they’ll also have
problems, because they are obliged to
be constantly careful—and if you look at this madness,
if you look at Instagram, it’s hard to tell
what exactly is going on. That’s where she deserves credit.
Of course, now she flaunts the fact that she
flies around, travels—she acts so open,
good for her, doing everything “right.” But before
the publication of our investigation, she
was absolutely proper in how skillfully and
effectively she hid
information about the yacht and the plane.
If you look at the yacht photos that
are posted on Instagram, we
find that in fact there are only two or three
tiny fragments of the yacht visible at any time.
On Instagram there’s no yacht name,
and no large section of the yacht
appears in the photos. She hid all of that, and
it was very difficult for us to establish what
yacht it actually was. You see, it really wasn’t
easy at all, even before the interview.
With Naryshkin, Brook would...
Sergei, what’s the weather like for the song...
And her latest promo for the interview with
Sobyanin was absolutely, absolutely
masterful. Let’s watch a few
seconds of how our wonderful Nailya
will be interviewing Sobyanin. What kind of
satanic Moscow is this, and how is it different from
Luzhkov’s Moscow? We’ll find out from the capital’s mayor, Sergei
Semyonovich. Hello, Nailya—or hi.
The key figures: Nailya and Asker-zade.
Sunday after midnight on the channel
Rossiya (Russia TV channel).
One of the most inexplicable things about her
is that she’s a super-rich TV host, she has a TEFI award (a major Russian television prize), I mean
it’s obvious that someone bought it for her here,
TEFI.
And she is officially the main interviewer
for the Rossiya 1 channel.
She has a TEFI, she’s an award winner, and her
program airs at 12:30 a.m. on Sunday—yes,
or rather, you could say Monday
or Saturday night depending on how you count it. In any case, it’s the
worst possible time. It seems to me that at such an hour
even if your show were broadcast on
Rossiya 1.
It’s just a dead slot, Alexei, because
for some reason I keep wondering
why this supposedly top interviewer
is always scheduled at this hour. It’s simply
because nobody watches her. But Rossiya 1 apparently
has some kind of
obligation to keep her on the air, so they
thought it over, shifted things around—I don’t know,
the horoscopes,
the home shopping block—somewhere in between.
Wait, can’t you just pay
to have it moved in the schedule and put it on at
7 p.m.? No, you can’t. Well, no—that would be too
great a loss for the TV channel, and a loss
for them too, because they would
lose regular viewers who at that
time might discover some cool shows on
other channels—like Vladimir Solovyov’s stuff.
Great programming, really. Let me show you
something.
A note she wrote several years
ago, in 2011.
Nailya, let’s look at the headline.
Enter: Noel Asker-zade, Navalny...
dot, stormy, VTB—I wrote about this on my
Telegram channel. I mean, I know her,
and really, Nailya Asker-zade—
whom I used to call Nailya—why did she
suddenly become Naila, and why did I have to retrain myself
along with everyone else? Everyone had to relearn it.
Even my Tatar friends wrote to me
asking, “Why are you saying Nailya? You should
say Naila.” It turned out that it all started
because Nailya Asker-zade herself
decided to call herself Naila Asker-zade, and
we somehow also decided to call her that
because that’s what she called herself. We
twisted ourselves into knots over it, I mean,
it took monstrous effort from me—we, we, we
did a million retakes: of course, Naila...
Asker-zade, watch the broadcast, Naila...
We really did try, deliberately.
Eighty percent of the takes were ruined because
it kept coming out as Nailya. But in the end we decided
to settle on one version or the other. Yes, I know how
to say it correctly—correctly, it should be Naila, they
say Nailya York, Naila Asker-zade, Naila...
because she wants to be called Naila Asker...
or—well, okay—Naila Asker-zade. In short,
it was complicated. We sorted it out, although it was
not easy. The yacht—the yacht was genuinely very
hard to find. The thing is, it was beautifully
well, I actually saw it live from the pier—great
I saw it. I crawled in—not through, not
from above, but through the fence, somehow moved
the fence aside, squeezed through, and from the back it was covered in scaffolding, so
it was hard to make out. We still hadn’t
looked from...
How did I know it was in Barcelona? Excellent question.
I knew it was in Barcelona because it
constantly sends out signals about
its location, just like the plane does—like
aircraft do. And on her Instagram, too,
she was constantly signaling to us that she was
somewhere in Nice, Monaco, Tanzania—but
she also showed at least a little bit of caution, Asker-
zade.
She was always shifting the timing on her
Instagram: she would go somewhere,
wait a couple of days,
or even a week, and only then post it.
So it was fairly difficult to compare her
trips with the plane’s flights—for example,
the trip to Tanzania. But it turned out that
the business jet flies from Moscow to Tanzania.
They fly around a bit every day, and
even so, Asker held it back and posted it
four weeks later—a photo from Tanzania—and
we, like idiots, went through all of it,
all those not-very-cunning little tricks,
a sneaky move, but still, we took
for sure—two clues, she told me, how do you put it,
my little devil, always resourceful,
as they say.
We took large datasets; we basically
took a large dataset on the plane’s flight
and looked at which coastal
cities it flew to, and we understood that
there was a yacht—she kept posting some kind of
similar little snippets on
Instagram and VKontakte (a Russian social network), but
it was impossible for anyone to identify it from those, so we
took all the coastal places the plane had flown to,
selected the four most likely
cities: Nice, Genoa, Olbia—that’s
Italy—and Cyprus, and looked at
when the plane was there. We simply took plus
or minus two to three days from each date,
got data on all the vessels that were there,
and it came to some millions of records,
including about 5,000 yachts, and then we started
cross-checking all that data, and it turned out
that only one yacht
had been in all four places. We
looked at photos online and compared them
with the photos we had, and it turned out that
it was the real thing. We went there, filmed it, and
well, and you can see it’s sending out
a little signal that the yacht is in Barcelona.
Barcelona is big—there are probably lots of
marinas there, or for a yacht of that size, I
suppose only a few.
Well yes, of course—it’s docked in the main,
the very main port of Barcelona right now.
Let’s move on.
Right now, I think it has arrived in Spain,
it just also—well, it returned to
Spain—no, not Spain, to
Italy, to
well, anyway, somewhere in Italy now. You can
find online without any problem where it
is docked right now just by searching for sean dos
position.
All of that can be found, and it ended up
in Barcelona. In Barcelona, of course, finding it was
not that difficult. We could say that
finding it in Boston would be very hard—we’d have
to walk all over Barcelona—but no, harder
than reading a sign, harder than a nameplate
among thousands of berths in Barcelona.
But this yacht broadcasts fairly precise
data about its location, down to
within so many meters. You just come over and
see the yacht. Filming it was fairly
risky there in Barcelona,
but we managed it. We filmed who those
people were who were doing yoga on
it—but that was some of the yacht’s crew. There are only
15 crew members on the yacht, and some of
them were there permanently—they live there, by the way.
So, Kostin and—or Kostya—
they’re paying, and so are the viewers
of this program and other citizens
of the Russian Federation.
We are paying to maintain a sixty-two-meter
(203-foot) yacht and a permanent staff of 15
people. They live there on what amounts to a permanent business trip.
An interesting arrangement: people get paid,
as if they were sent there on assignment.
That’s at least €34,000 a month, which is higher than
the average salary in Russia—well, yes.
So 10 to 15 of them, at minimum, live there
permanently, and we are constantly paying for it.
Of course, I even read about their yoga mats
on this yacht. I also read that
maintaining a yacht like this costs about
€3 million a year, all told.
That sounds about right, though I have no personal experience
with maintaining a 62-meter yacht.
In the Beautiful Russia of the Future (an anti-corruption political slogan), but
this is an ужасно inefficient way to spend money on
these jets, these planes—just an enormous
sink for huge amounts of money, of course, all taken from you.
There is, admittedly, a certain romanticism in this person.
It’s a terribly inefficient way to spend money, though.
How much would you value Georgy’s love in
terms of a plaque in Central Park? Well, you
don’t calculate expenses when it comes to your beloved girl,
you give her a yacht paid for by a state
bank—you’re not paying for anything yourself, so why count?
You don’t count how many hundreds of thousands of liters
of fuel you’ll need to go somewhere,
you don’t count anything, you don’t think about any of it,
you just make a grand gesture
and throw a yacht at your beloved’s feet.
And let these people pay for it—there they are,
running around there, earning their 22
thousand rubles a month, of course.
But if a person counted money even a little,
he would never
do something like that—obviously not. But these
aren’t his money, so he can do
absolutely anything. And where you were filming,
was that the biggest one you filmed?
Was it the biggest yacht? No, it wasn’t the
biggest, but it was one of the more
impressive ones. It was in that range where
for a superyacht, of course, by
its specifications, it definitely is a superyacht.
I thought a superyacht meant something over 100
meters, but apparently the threshold starts lower,
more like 50. Since we’ve talked so much,
let’s watch the video once more
that Georgy filmed in Barcelona, how
he got in there, slipping past a little fence down to the dock,
sliding through, sneaking past the fence and everything.
In front of us is the 62-meter (203-foot) yacht si en
dos. Look at it—how beautiful it is.
Even despite the fact that it’s surrounded by scaffolding,
don’t worry, it won’t get in our way. We
arm ourselves with a few photographs of the
yacht and begin the search.
To begin with, we find the helipad.
Right there on the yacht—very classy. Let's begin.
With this photo—you'll agree,
it was taken here. We can see the same
railings and some kind of metal post, and
right here nearby.
This photo of Nailya will come in handy.
She's sitting on a low railing, and you can see some kind of
round porthole near her feet.
That's the spot. We keep looking, moving on to
the helipad, and so far we haven't found anything,
except for girls doing
yoga on the upper deck. I see a dog
doing downward dog. We don't know who it is—sorry for the disturbance.
We'd really like to find
the staircase from this photo. It has
a turn in it, and glass is visible on both sides.
We're looking for the staircase, checking—this isn't it.
It doesn't look like it at all. Likewise, judging by
the blank wall—there's nothing there, just some kind of entrance
showing up. This definitely isn't our staircase.
So where is it? Wait—there it is.
Look, that's our staircase. Hooray, we found it!
There is no doubt left. All that's left
is to say that a yacht like this costs $62
million, or 4 billion
rubles.
We're being watched live by 56,000
people, and several dozen have already
taken part in the contest to guess
where Nailya and Svetlana will fly next.
The Medvedeva battle. Do you remember the game *Mortal*
*Kombat*? Of course I do. This is Nailya Asker-
zade, this is Svetlana Medvedeva, and this is
a battle of corrupt officials' women. Which one
has what superpowers? Who would you bet
on? Well, Nailya obviously has
that, while Svetlana has
her own strengths.
Well, she's cunning in the way she handles
Instagram—she's clever.
She holds back, you see. She understands that people are watching her,
and Svetlana Medvedeva—on her
side, I think, she has a bit more mana.
But this is probably a different kind of player. Who is
more competent? But here,
to be fair, one hides the money and
property their husbands and
boyfriends stole.
Who operates more skillfully?
More skillfully, surprisingly enough, Svetlana. By the way,
here in this video she's the former first lady and the wife
of the prime minister. You'd think she'd have at least some kind of
public life, but
nevertheless, all her public appearances
in public, officially, are at most once
a year—more typically once every
two years—and she doesn't show up anywhere at all.
So of course it's harder to expose her.
Her stealth skill is much higher.
Still, she's a well-known
person, and we showed photos there
that, supposedly, were taken by a Cypriot taxi driver.
By the way, saying, "I found it, I googled it across all
social networks"—
the people sitting here use
the internet. No need to tell fairy tales.
Either someone sent it to you,
or Sechin (Igor Sechin, a powerful Russian state oil executive) from the FSB (Russia's Federal Security Service) is your patron, because
if I start googling right now
"photo of Svetlana Medvedeva with her son
taken by a taxi driver," I'll be flooded with junk—that is, I
won't find anything. I searched on Instagram.
I mean, I went onto Instagram, entered
the hashtag for Svetlana Medvedeva, something with her name,
her patronymic, and
put it in. There weren't that many photos there—
only 800,000. You can look through them yourself.
I think you looked through photos
of Nastya Rybka when they were conducting
their investigation. You understand that you can
look through thousands of photos on Instagram
and
nothing terrible will happen. So it's all
because you lost a day of vacation. Do you realize you just lost your day
of
vacation?
All right then: some woman gets off a plane,
and around her we see
a large number of security guards running around.
That means any curious onlookers
would start taking pictures of her. So where are those
photos? How does she hide them all?
You can't hide that.
Apparently you've never flown on a
private jet. I haven't either,
but I've spent quite a lot of time tracking private
planes, including Svetlana Medvedeva's
plane.
It lands over there and goes to
some farthest parking area at
Vnukovo, where a car picks her up,
and she drives away with flashing lights
and some people escorting her, and
that's impossible to catch. Fine, in Vnukovo maybe—but
she flew to Jerusalem or to Cyprus,
well, the same thing happens there too: a car comes,
she leaves, and that's it. No one
sees anything. Of course no one can photograph it.
Naturally. Not just photograph it—
they'd simply cut it out. Having found these people, she is
super-important, of course. Catching her takes a
special skill.
And of course Nailya's skill is demonstrativeness—
obviously. I mean, she
shows off her trips; she isn't
embarrassed by it, unlike Medvedeva.
So, let's put it this way: to track
Svetlana Medvedeva's movements, we
had to work much harder than
we did to track the movements
of Askerzade. That's something that, of course,
is astonishing, no doubt. But a state
TV host, a state banker—and yet
they're not presidents or any official
figures. There's money there, but not that much. Do you
really think they
just don't care? I mean, what do
they think? What are they all sitting there thinking?
Right now, at home, watching this program, they’re probably...
talking among themselves, like, “There are these two...”
clowns on YouTube trashing us.”
And in their defense, what can they even say?
Obviously, they’re not saying, “Ladies and gentlemen, yes...”
...let’s call things by their proper names...”
...I’m a thief.”
And what could Svetlana Medvedeva say?
Well, wait, listen, Medvedeva there...
...she’s sitting there for now...
...with Ilya and Kostin. He’s a rich man...
...he bought me something, so what...
...was I supposed to refuse? And of course...
...you’ve got to post it on Instagram so that...
...they all die of envy. Of course you do.
You’ve got to show it all off; you can’t hide it.
That I’m sailing on a yacht—well, fine, I...
I’m Andrei Kostin, and I say, “Ellochka...
my dear...”
“But how are we going to explain, damn it, 62...
million? Somehow 60 million for a plane...
120 million dollars—how can we...
explain where you secretly got...
that kind of money?” And what does she answer? “I don’t...
know, don’t worry about it.
Everything will be just fine. I won’t...
post any photos that might...
expose us.” Well, that turned out great.
All right, and Svetlana Medvedeva—how do you think...
...she explains the need...
...to fly everywhere on a private jet?
“Security”? “I’m too important”?
Or “I believe in God too much”? But anyway...
...she and her husband worked so hard...
...worked so much, stole so much...
...how could I possibly live without it now?” She herself may not have...
stolen anything directly, but she uses it all, she travels...
She probably just pretends she doesn’t know...
where the plane came from. She goes around to ten...
residences registered to foundations...
all year round, constantly—and she doesn’t...
understand what’s going on? Of course she does.
She literally...
flies on a stolen plane...
lives in a stolen house, and well, how does she...
talk about it with her son Ilya?
The young man is generally...
...affected by all these investigations too; it’s hard for him as well.
Though somehow he’s hanging on—for now.
Let’s look at the 36-minute mark, at how...
we found Medvedeva’s plane, and then...
Georgy will tell us why this...
was, after all, harder than...
with Medvedeva, who is absolutely not a public...
and extremely well-protected person. Even so...
we managed to find a decent number...
of references to private visits, both in Russia...
and abroad, and all of them line up with...
the movements of a private jet.
VTB, Kemerovo: news reports that because of the arrival...
of Medvedev(a), half the city was shut down. Israel...
April 2016: Svetlana Medvedeva makes a...
pilgrimage.
And here the plane lands—we initially have no idea...
where. It’s a military...
air base in the Kulebaki urban district...
near the border of the Vladimir and...
Nizhny Novgorod regions. What would our Svetlana...
be doing there? But she’s going to Murom...
which is about 20 kilometers (12 miles) away...
and there she celebrates the Day of Family, Love, and...
Fidelity (a Russian holiday promoting family values).
Next, a visit to St. Petersburg to visit...
the Kronstadt Naval Cathedral.
Then Ivanovo, and a visit to the opening of a summer...
festival in Plyos.
June 2017: the plane flies to Cyprus...
and we find a photo of Svetlana...
Medvedeva in Cyprus on that very day...
posted by a local guide/taxi driver.
Then Murom again, for the next...
Festival of Family, Love, and Fidelity, and then in...
March of this year...
Jerusalem, where she venerated holy sites...
at exactly the same time the plane was there.
And then in the summer, St. Petersburg...
Kronstadt again. This time...
Even some Greek aviation enthusiasts from...
the island of Kos, who track flights to...
their island, discovered that in the summer...
of 2012, on this very plane...
Svetlana Medvedeva and...
Ilya Medvedev flew in to see them.
At the time, he was Dmitry Medvedev’s 17-year-old son...
and they wrote exactly that on their website...
in plain language.
A user sends us a funny comment:
“Navalny Live with guests looks...
more interesting and dynamic...”
but the studio feels cramped.” All right...
Nawalny, tell us...
please, about all these photos. But I think...
that, by the way, all these...
photos have still been preserved, so everyone...
can look at them. Well, the Cypriot taxi driver...
who had the photo with Medvedeva deleted...
the photos from the internet. Is he still alive?
Polina starts: “Wouldn’t it be great...
if there were, for example, some way...
to take some photos from the...
internet and save them? That would be...
great—to make use of such a...
possibility, we definitely would.”
But I think of course you do have that; I don’t even...
know why I didn’t think of it right away.
Yes, yes...
Still, tell us please...
why it was harder to track Medvedeva than...
someone like Mask (likely meaning a more public figure).
Because Medvedeva doesn’t put herself out there anywhere.
Because she doesn’t post on Instagram where...
she’s gone, and she keeps everything closed off...
So you have to find some mention of it too...
maybe in some Saratov newspaper...
and that’s pretty hard to find. It’s not like...
some Instagram account where everything is right there...
and easy to dig up. So yes, she’s definitely better at hiding it...
Svetlana Medvedeva is definitely more careful than...
Asker, yes, because he writes.
Because they don't post on Instagram, and...
...and leads a much more God-fearing way...
...of life — that's what you think. But now, after all this...
...after this investigation came out, will they...
...use the yacht less? Well...
Of course not. I mean, if you have yachts, are you...
...not going to use them? Of course you are.
They'll keep using them. At first, everyone will just endlessly...
...be tracking them from every possible angle...
...looking for the plane, and every time...
...they go somewhere, everyone will be on Twitter...
...and in Telegram channels condemning it: there she goes again...
...off somewhere. But nothing serious will happen.
They'll keep using it; they won't give it up.
Shuvalov didn't give it up — he still uses it, still flies.
They'll just put up with the criticism...
...and sail away on their yachts. Thank you very much...
...Georgy, for telling us how it all...
...was.
All right, I also have one more funny thing...
...some backstage footage, a video of how...
...the recording actually happens. Everyone thinks...
...we have some kind of super-professional...
...studio...
...and a huge number of assistants.
Last time, what did it look like, who...
...was improving the studio in Moscow so that I...
...wouldn't have to record with the beauty...
...of the night city in the background?
What do the staff do? How are the videos actually...
...made? Investigating the Christmas tree?
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Liqueur.
We need to pick some for Lucy.
Alexander came over and knows a good...
...viewing. We found out that on the plane was the wife...
...of Medvedev, because this...
...was an aviation spotter from Ufa Airport...
...who photographs planes there, and they know who...
...is arriving. And this Finnish Armada — excellent.
All right, thanks a lot, Georgy. What did you...
...like more: chopping down a Christmas tree or searching for...
...a sign in Central Park — I mean, in the central...
...park? That was nicer, wasn't it?
Squirrels running around, maybe feed a squirrel...
...like Robert Schlegel. I understand, it's hard...
...physical labor. Schlegel, you just love...
...everything foreign. Thanks a lot, Georgy.
We're waiting — don't ask...
Creative plans — we're all waiting for something...
...interesting from you. Thanks a lot.
And now, for the moment, let's listen to the legal...
...grounds for why...
...Medvedev should resign, because...
...what we did wasn't just...
...we found something, published it, great...
...we all laughed at them...
...and they laughed at us for being suckers...
...and saying it was all paid for.
But the situation with Medvedev's plane...
...specifically is grounds for...
...Medvedev's resignation, and this is what...
...the foundation's director and lawyer, Ivan Zhdanov, says.
Let's take a look. Dmitry Anatolyevich...
...Medvedev is also a lawyer. He's written entire books...
...on law, so he knows perfectly well...
...one thing: an airplane is immovable...
...property.
Even though it flies, this...
...is set out in Article 130 of the Civil...
...Code of the Russian Federation. The right...
...to use immovable property must be...
...declared.
Let's look at Medvedev's declarations. Here there is...
...an apartment...
...but they somehow forgot to mention the plane. It's not there. Nor is the dacha...
...in Plyos, and a lot of other things.
But the story of using the plane...
...by Svetlana Medvedeva is very telling. We...
...proved one hundred percent that Svetlana...
...Medvedeva uses the plane, but this...
...is not in Dmitry Medvedev's declaration.
For any government official...
...this is one hundred percent grounds...
...for resignation.
Did you notice what a wonderful...
...photograph is standing on the desk of the director...
...apparently someone from the family. And to wrap up...
...the program, I'll still take a couple more minutes...
...of your time. I just kind of want to...
...bring you back from Barcelona, from yachts, fancy planes...
...expensive things flying somewhere...
...and drop straight back into Mother Russia.
The city of Krasnoturyinsk, which was probably remembered...
...by many, many viewers of our program — excuse me...
...I remember it because...
...the head of that city is one...
...of the simply most brazen people on earth, and...
...quite recently he was scolding the public...
...the people gathered there because they...
...hadn't voted well enough for United...
...Russia (the ruling political party), and therefore the city didn't receive...
...additional money from the budget. And...
...he said that next time you'd better...
...vote better, and then there will be more money.
Let me remind you of that video for a couple...
...of seconds. At the present moment, when we...
...have become fourth from the bottom, we have no...
...future. On May 17 there will be the next...
...election to the Legislative Assembly of Sverdlovsk...
...Region, and accordingly, if we...
...vote the same way or even worse, then...
...accordingly, you will get nothing.
I'm from... and I don't know the name of the park, but...
...this is our future, and the authorities are asking...
...us: support our candidate...
...dear friends, let's...
...support him. Once again I want to say...
...we voted 8, we got 13.
As of today, the result is that we do not...
...have a second school, no... and no...
...which they promised to build for us. Once again...
...I want to say: we may have different...
...attitudes toward this...
...but this is the result of the attitude toward the city of...
...Krasnoturyinsk.
If they ask you, then please...
you do what the authorities want from you
the mayor of Krasnoturyinsk tells us, and quite
recently, the authorities asked for something like this:
a deputy from United Russia, Mr.
Shipulin, a former
skier, a former well-known athlete, and
now a United Russia official, came to
some school to present awards to someone there.
At this time of year, in that part of the
Russian Federation, it is quite cold, but
in order for the United Russia politician to get
a nice photo op with students from the local
school,
the schoolchildren were forced out to a ceremonial assembly, where they
stood waiting. The United Russia politician was late; he had
some business to attend to, while the schoolchildren stood there
and stood there, waiting for him in the freezing cold. It was very
cold, but the authorities had asked for it, and so
they were not allowed to leave.
And the teachers, the principal, the local
administration—they deliberately kept
the schoolchildren out in the cold so that
the United Russia politician could arrive, hand out some gifts,
probably pens, and leave. That is exactly what
happened, and the local
public page Krasnoturyinsk Life wrote about it.
And now the authorities of this city
are demanding that this public page be shut down because
they wrote about it, and they are accusing them of
something like this—well, it is obvious why
they are shutting them down:
for using the city's coat of arms
on that very public page. I mean, this is just
completely absurd.
What a great setup they have:
they fly over us in jets, drive around in SUVs, and
sail around us on yachts, while
we are supposed to send ourselves—or our children—out
into the freezing cold so we can stand there and serve as
extras for some damn shabby
run-of-the-mill United Russia politician who simply
needs a photo for social media.
And if you do not like standing out in the cold
and if you so much as write about it, then
your public page will be shut down because
the authorities asked for it—so please, obey.
Do we need authorities like that? We do not. I
think that is a rhetorical question, so I
once again call on all viewers of this
program not to stay silent, to fight, and to make sure
that sooner or later
the ones standing out in the cold in Krasnoturyinsk will be
not us, but Asker-zade (a Russian TV host), banker
Kostin, Medvedev, and all the other people
who are parasitizing our country.
Thank you very much to everyone who watched.
See you next time.
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