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Good evening, everyone. We’re live on air.

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This is the program *Russia of the Future*, and that means

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that in Moscow it is exactly 8:00 p.m.—or rather,

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the other way around: the fact that it is now exactly 8:00 p.m. in Moscow

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means that we are live

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with *Russia of the Future*, and with you here in the

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studio is me, Alexei Navalny, or the man

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who, according to some people, tanked the ratings

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of a noodle shop in Moscow—that’s what the Kremlin media called me.

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The Kremlin media did. I didn’t actually

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tank the noodle shop’s ratings—it did that to itself.

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Some crook from

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some noodle place I’d never even heard of

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decided to join the other

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crooks, like

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the Armenia restaurant, Mosgortrans (Moscow public transit operator), and

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the National Guard, who filed lawsuits over

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the organization of rallies. It turned out that

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the rallies, and the people who

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took to the streets of Moscow to protest over

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the refusal to allow candidates onto the ballot, somehow

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interfered with some damn noodle shop.

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I don’t even know—some nobody just decided

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to curry favor with Sobyanin (Moscow mayor), or maybe

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to advertise his disgusting

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business in this strange, exotic way.

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His noodle shop joined in too.

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He rushed in with this lawsuit as well, and no doubt

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he’ll squeeze a few thousand rubles out of us

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and claim that, you know, he sold far less noodles

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that day because of us.

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But indeed, it wasn’t just *Izvestia*—

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people went onto sites like

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Google, Yelp, and all the others and gave it

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one- and two-star ratings. In fact, if

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you do that right now, I’ll be

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very happy. Let that noodle shop

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never be used by anyone ever again. Its owner is

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a crook and an idiot—let him go bankrupt. Please send me

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your questions with the hashtag

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#RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter; they’ll be passed along here

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and I’ll answer them as attentively as I can.

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Some of you have probably noticed that

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there’s been a renovation behind me.

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We redid the backdrop because the old one

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had gotten a bit worn out, so now our

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apartment building has become much bigger.

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Everything is exactly like what happens

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in Moscow: lower buildings get demolished and

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replaced with huge high-rises. And now we have

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two cats, because especially on this

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side you can see that one cat

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is especially large and fat for the size

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of this window. This is the very cat that

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wasn’t allowed into Arafat—we gave him shelter here.

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The first story I’d like

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to begin with is a story

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worthy of a TV series or

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a great film—a sad story,

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quite a tragic one. Remember the film *Three

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Billboards*? There are series of that kind too,

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and in general it’s a popular genre where

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some volunteers accidentally

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start investigating something on their own in

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small-town America, most often

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the American heartland, because that’s where

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these kinds of series and films are usually set—

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in rural America.

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Though of course they should make them about

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Russia too. And they stumble onto

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injustice, a crime, a murder,

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blood traces, and then those blood traces

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lead somewhere, and it turns out that

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the crime is being covered up. Then it turns out

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that the police are covering it up, and so on.

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It all goes right to the top. It’s just

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a nightmare and total chaos. And that is exactly

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what is happening right now in the city of Azov

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in the Rostov region. Several people wrote to me

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saying, “Alexei,

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please talk about this.” So I am,

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because this story

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is outrageous, and unfortunately not enough

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people are talking about it. It’s really just

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an incredible story. So, on November 2,

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very recently, a man named Ruslan

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Popov called and said,

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“I’m on my way home.” He never made it home. He disappeared.

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He was gone one day, then two days.

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Volunteers began searching for him

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and simply combing through the area.

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And in the end, there was no sign of the man anywhere.

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They just walked everywhere along the route he

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usually took.

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And in one spot on the road they found

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blood traces and this man’s sneakers.

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Let’s watch 29 seconds.

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This is simply a crime scene. Volunteers,

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while searching for the missing man, saw

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a skid mark—very clear, speed matters here—

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leading onward.

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You can see this skid mark here,

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and here we also have blood, and farther on

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drag marks.

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From the car that, in all

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likelihood, hit him.

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His sneakers were also found nearby.

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So: blood, a skid mark,

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a skid mark,

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drag marks from the body, and the man’s sneakers.

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But there was no man, and the police had no

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report or statement saying that he had been

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found, that there was a beaten body, that there had been a traffic accident—nothing.

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Nothing. The man’s relatives began

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calling every morgue.

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The volunteers started calling the morgues too,

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and no one said anything. The morgues said they had no such

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person. Three days later, when they

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had already started going from morgue to morgue on foot,

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the body of Ruslan Popov was found.

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It was found in one of the morgues, and

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the morgue staff said that

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the body had been brought in from a completely different

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place, located 30 kilometers away

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from there, in a forest belt.

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Here you can see a diagram of the place where he was hit, where there are

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skid marks, sneakers, and blood.

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this person's blood, and where the body was found

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as you can see, it's simply far away, it's not just that

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you know, the car hit him and the body was thrown aside

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it's about 30 kilometers (19 miles) as the crow flies, if

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by road it's much farther, deep into

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a forest belt, that is, he was hit in one place

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loaded into a car and taken somewhere else

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hidden in the woods, and then they began

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reviewing surveillance camera footage

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they found the car, the car

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belongs to an Interior Ministry major named Roman

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Lobanov, who urgently left for somewhere

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on some kind of business trip, but already under the weight

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of this evidence that had been

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found by volunteers, this man

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is arrested

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only one thing, though, is that

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relatives and friends are watching the footage

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they are in the register, in the case materials now

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this footage has now been classified, and the cameras show

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that the car that hit this

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person, at a gas station and somewhere else,

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did not contain only this Roman Lobanov, but also

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a certain Interior Ministry colonel and other

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people

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a scandal erupts too; it turns out that if

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one person hit him, then the others took part in

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covering up the crime. The Rostov regional Interior Ministry

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starts an internal review and tries to convince everyone

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shouting that there was no one else

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in the car

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even though this directly contradicts, first of all,

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the video footage, yes, what was recorded

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by the camera on video, and second, it simply

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obviously contradicts common sense

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so in the end, what do we have now in Rostov Region

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are high-ranking

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Interior Ministry officers, senior officers, a major and a lieutenant colonel

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at the very least, and with them some other people

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from the Interior Ministry, maybe not, we don't know; they are driving at

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very high speed and veer onto the shoulder

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we assume someone there was drunk at the

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wheel, though now it's no longer possible

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to establish otherwise; they hit

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a person and kill him

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it may have been manslaughter, but still a killing, and they then

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on the shoulder, that is, he himself was simply walking along it

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Ruslan Popov wasn't breaking any rules

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they hit him, his body is thrown onto

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the roadside, his sneakers are lying there

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they get out, take the body, drag it along

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the shoulder, hide it in the trunk, and take it

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30 kilometers (19 miles) away to some forest belt, where

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they pull it out of the car

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carry it into the tree line and dump it there in order to

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cover up the crime. I repeat: this was done by

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police officers, senior Interior Ministry officers

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but then the pyramid grows further: now the Interior Ministry

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in Rostov is supposedly conducting a review and

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says there was no one else there, meaning

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it turns out that, well, basically

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Interior Ministry officers committed a killing

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they hid the traces of the crime and, under the

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weight of the evidence, were forced to

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arrest the one who was behind the wheel, while all the

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other participants in the crime

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excuse me, when the body was moved and hidden again

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all of you became participants in this killing

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are now already being protected, defended by

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the leadership of the Rostov regional Interior Ministry

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I mean, this is literally a story out of

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a TV series, and all of this happened; this

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police officer, this major, was arrested

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only because volunteers caused

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this scandal, because they kept going, because

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they were searching and found these traces

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of braking, found blood, then the car

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and kept going. If they hadn't done this, people simply

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would have acted as if nothing had happened: somewhere

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in a forest belt they found a person with signs of

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injury

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dead, another dead person, just one more unresolved

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case. This is very important because

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really, guys, just imagine what

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we can expect at all from the Interior Ministry, from

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our police

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if their senior officers are engaged in

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things like this, and their generals, their leadership,

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despite the video recording, the video recordings, and

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despite the fact that you can see an Interior Ministry major in the car, and sitting there is

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a colonel from the ministry, still say no, there was no

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colonel there, just some unknown

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person, only this killer Lobanov

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but being a killer because you hit someone with a car—something like that can, in fact,

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happen to anyone, but only

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even if it happens to you by accident

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and you accidentally hit a person

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stuffing them into the trunk and taking them

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to another place would never occur

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to anyone. And these are police officers, and we simply

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must realize two things. First,

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in this same Rostov Region

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quite recently, as you may remember, I

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talked about this twice on the program

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they imprisoned several people for taking part

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in a one-person protest picket and gave them six years each

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these same police officers

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this same regional Interior Ministry opened those cases

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and thought it was right and great

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to arrest people for one-person pickets

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and then send them to prison for six years, and these same

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people should be fired, because if

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things like this are happening under your watch, then the degree

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to which your entire

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territorial, regional Interior Ministry has been infected by lawlessness

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is such that you cannot claim

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that you, as police officers, are protecting

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people. People cannot turn to you; to

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you, no one simply trusts anymore

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unfortunately, this is happening across the

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country. The Interior Ministry system is absolutely rotten

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it was already falling apart in the 1990s

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it went through something in the early 2000s

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not exactly a renaissance, but some order

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started to be restored there, but now it

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has absolutely, completely, in these last

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Putin years, simply sunk into

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corruption, just, well, simply into

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crimes, because it has become

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a press completely unaccountable to anyone

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there are no independent deputies, no

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public oversight, no commissions, nobody

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if there is no oversight, then everything just

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falls apart. This decay, this decomposition, we

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can see in

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the example of Rostov Region. I urge

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everyone to follow this case. It

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is being talked about, and this case should, it should

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become one of the most high-profile of all

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that is happening in the country. By the way, last

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time I showed you a deputy from

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this same city, Azov, who

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made an appeal regarding

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people arrested for taking part in pickets

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I talked about that. This deputy, he

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is a deputy

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this deputy, sorry, made an appeal

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because I simply happened to

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run into him on the street

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when we were filming for the program about Stalin

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and the Gulag, that report where we were traveling all over

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with people in wheelchairs, and he

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asked to make an appeal in this case as well

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too

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Well, this deputy is a decent guy

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Yurov, Vladimir Yurov is his name, and once again he

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made an appeal in the Azov City Duma on behalf of

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his own—well, that very city

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Let's listen to 1 minute 17 seconds.

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On November 2, in the Azov District

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a terrible tragedy occurred: under the wheels

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of a car, a 20-year-old young man, Ruslan

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Popov, died.

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But despite the full horror of the situation, and

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even more grim is the fact that behind the wheel of the car

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was a police officer with the rank of major,

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an employee of the inter-municipal Ministry of Internal Affairs department

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Azovsky.

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Roman Lobanov, after loading the body of the deceased

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young man

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into his car, drove it away and hid it

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in a forest belt.

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According to available information, in the car together

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with the major was a certain lieutenant colonel

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who helped him hide the body.

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They commit such grave crimes.

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The Azov MVD department has long had a reputation, and

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has earned itself the fame of being not a very effective

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police department on many issues.

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The police are inactive; it is impossible

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to get through to them. Every year the

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head of the department changes. The conclusion suggests itself that

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the entire department

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is rotten to the core, and it is necessary to replace not

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only the head of the department, but the entire

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leadership staff. The CPRF faction (Communist Party of the Russian Federation) in the Azov

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City Duma, expressing condolences

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to the family and loved ones of the deceased, demands from the

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Investigative Committee and the prosecutor's office

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a thorough investigation of all

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the circumstances of what happened

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and the identification of all guilty persons who

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assisted and covered for Major

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Lobanov.

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Well done. And maybe someone there

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will smirk and say, some little

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district duma

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—but this is exactly what they should be doing. It's a real

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shame that the State Duma

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doesn't do this. It's great that some

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local deputies are doing it, who, by the way, still have to work

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with this police force, and keep working with it, and

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it's great that they are not afraid. Once again, I simply

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urge everyone, especially those who live in

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Rostov Region:

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guys, don't be afraid, don't stay silent. We know

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everything about your police. We know that

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the Rostov police, the whole Rostov

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Region—of course, maybe recently it is

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not as much of a lawless zone as

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Krasnodar Krai, but it's something close to

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that, like the whole south of Russia. But nevertheless

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I urge, in a sense,

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simply for everyone, quite literally,

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all residents of Rostov Region, I don't

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know, in any available form, to express

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their distrust of the police until this

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case is fully investigated.

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Because, well, it is impossible to put up with

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the fact that in the police there are

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people who continue to work there,

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who hide bodies in the trunk and

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drive them out to dump them in a forest belt. Well,

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that means tomorrow they could do just about anything

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to your relatives

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and, God forbid, dump the body

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in a forest belt in exactly the same way. So, about Popov—

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Alex B asks me, you said there was information about

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how it happened that they themselves

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are telling the story—I’ll talk about that later

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about Popov. It's actually quite

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interesting. More broadly, continuing this whole

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theme of big shots behind the wheel,

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police officers, FSB people, and so on,

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it really looks as if in our country

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the attitude is becoming: don't stand in front of

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our hood, because we are important people.

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It seemed that this had gone away sometime in the middle

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of the 2000s. I remember very well that back then there was

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a mass movement arguing that we should not

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have to give way to all these mega-

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officials. Obviously, if an ambulance is driving,

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you need to let it pass.

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But if it's just a Mercedes with a blue

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flashing light, you don't need to give way. Remember

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there was the Blue Buckets movement (a Russian protest movement against officials' misuse of blue emergency lights)

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and then those crooks from United

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Russia started tightening

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the legislation, and now once again

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we have entered simply this

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era of absurd lawlessness, when they

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will just drive along, run over

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you, and it is considered that this is exactly how it should be. And

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in Moscow, fortunately, without such severe

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consequences, exactly the same

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thing is happening.

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So, if you live in Moscow, you know

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this place—Vasilyevsky Spusk—and beyond

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Moskvoretsky Bridge. If you don’t know,

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Vasilyevsky Spusk is right near the Cathedral

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of Christ the Savior and St. Basil’s

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Cathedral, right at the bottom of Red Square, and

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the Big Moskvoretsky Bridge.

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On the Big Moskvoretsky Bridge, there was that notorious place where

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Nemtsov was shot (Boris Nemtsov, opposition politician). Traffic there is organized

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in such a way that it would be very convenient to turn off

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the bridge onto the embankment, and after driving

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a little way, sort of along Red Square, past

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the end of Vasilyevsky Spusk—but

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traffic is arranged so that you can’t drive there,

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even though it would be very convenient.

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You can turn one way, but not the other.

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And, well, all sorts of big officials

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are constantly driving there—those very

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Mercedes cars with flashing lights, darting around there

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endlessly, and even without the lights,

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just some people with official IDs.

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They drive there all the time. And there’s this motorists’ movement

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led by

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Andrei Orel; he ran for the Moscow City Duma

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in my district, Maryina. I’ve talked about him

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here before. So they simply

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stand there and, in that spot, monitor

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compliance with traffic rules. And

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now let’s watch 40 seconds of what

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happened to them and to the car involved.

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The plan protected...

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I

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Oh

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Where—what am I even saying?

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Hello, Kitay-Gorod police department.

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Broccoli... Vanga... your documents...

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They’ll prepare them for you... basically, this is a statement

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claiming that someone threw themselves under the car.

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It’s better to take... under your code... that

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Of course, it’s all very sluggish, but I mean, they

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are standing there on Vasilyevsky Spusk.

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A beautiful black car pulls up—a

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Mercedes

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whose driver wants to break the traffic rules.

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But as you saw,

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with the StopXam movement, usually people

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see that there are people there and that they can’t drive through,

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and they’re being filmed, so they just turn around

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and go make a U-turn somewhere else.

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It takes three minutes longer.

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I mean, you’re not going to run someone over, right?

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But these big shots are driving there, so they

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just drive into the person

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and leave the scene. Then they call

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the police and say, ‘There, please detain those

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who are standing there and not letting us break the traffic

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rules.’ So the police detain them,

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arrest them, and then something truly

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remarkable happens: they call in

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a technical specialist, supposedly to the

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scene

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of the offense. What do you think

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they call in a technical specialist for?

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To take the cameras away from these

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people and erase all the information from them.

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They recorded audio of the technical

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specialist

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discussing it. Fortunately, they were recording

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onto a second memory card there, so all the

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video recordings

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were preserved. But the fact is that these big shots

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and the police call in a technical

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specialist to delete the video of the

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collision.

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As I understand it, they wanted to find that video, and I was driving...

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The driver said one of them threw himself

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under the car—one of the four who were brought into this little room.

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These three were brought here, and he says they’re copying it

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for themselves first. I hope you

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heard it clearly enough—they say there

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that first they copy the video for themselves,

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and then deliberately wipe it. The story

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continued with the fact that

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these three people were jailed—these

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people who were not letting others break the

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traffic rules. One of them got, according to the

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court record, 15 days.

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Two others got 13 days each. Don’t stand in the way

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of the great.

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Really, to them we are nobody.

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If they need to get through, they can run us over, and when

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they do, they’ll also write in their statement

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that you’ll be ‘dealt with’ on top of that.

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And then they’ll lock you up for 15 days, because

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you’re not supposed to stand in front of big black

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cars. I just wanted to express

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my support

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for those people from the motorists’ movement,

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for Orel and all his comrades.

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These are, of course, difficult times for them now.

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A few years ago, yes, they really

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really

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—well, not exactly terrorized people, but they did go after

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all those who drove into oncoming lanes

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and so on. But at least they were

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effectively stopping it. Now they just drive over them.

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Why? Because lawlessness

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has reached a whole new level—there are no courts, no one to turn to, that degree of arbitrariness.

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Of course. But if three years ago

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someone had told me a story about how

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first they drove into someone, and then claimed

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he had thrown himself under the car, and then he was

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jailed as well—though they say you can

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give 15 days to a person who was

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run over by some obedient official car—

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well, they found a reason. And unfortunately

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this will keep developing further and further in

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our country, because the doors have been opened

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for all these wonderful

21:34

police enforcers. They’ve received

21:36

a very clear signal: for us

21:40

there is some law that can be

21:42

twisted any way they like, and some sham court

21:44

can convict us for any amount, any term—whatever they want.

21:45

But for them, no law exists at all.

21:47

And one of the guys also said

21:50

that no law exists at all there.

21:53

This week, he was ultimately forced to somehow

21:56

listen to the will of the people and leave for Mexico.

21:59

Comrade Evo Morales

22:02

a great friend of Vladimir Putin, who

22:05

thought he could do exactly the same things

22:07

as Vladimir Putin, who also spent a very

22:10

long time posturing here and loved holding meetings.

22:13

Let's watch 33 seconds of Putin

22:15

and Evo Morales meeting to discuss

22:17

cooperation, because both of them

22:19

seemed to think they would be eternal

22:21

presidents for life. Major companies

22:23

are investing substantial resources. Gazprom, for example,

22:28

has invested $500 million, and billions

22:31

of dollars in the development of the oil and gas sector.

22:35

Rosatom is building a center for nuclear

22:38

research, and our equipment is increasingly in demand,

22:44

including

22:45

automotive equipment as well.

22:48

Many of our students study at Russian

22:50

universities. We will continue to develop

22:52

this kind of cooperation. Our countries

22:54

share a similar approach: that

22:55

states must act

22:57

sovereignly and independently, both on

22:58

the international stage and in developing

23:00

bilateral relations.

23:02

We have 61,000 people watching us live.

23:05

What's going on? Did you all

23:07

stop watching cat videos or something? I don't

23:09

know. Usually, at this point, when we're talking about Morales,

23:12

we have about 22,000 people watching us

23:14

live. But now it's 60,000. A big hello to everyone.

23:16

Hi, we're discussing Evo Morales,

23:18

a great friend of Putin who was

23:21

forced to leave. What made Evo Morales

23:23

so similar to Putin? In fact, they're fairly

23:24

similar guys. Both of them, thanks to

23:28

high oil prices, had the opportunity

23:31

to tell fairy tales like, 'I lifted you all

23:34

out of the dirt and made you into decent

23:37

people.' Under both Putin and Morales, for

23:40

a certain period of time,

23:42

people's standard of living rose fairly quickly.

23:44

Oil money came in, and

23:46

Morales got elected, and then said,

23:50

'I want to run again,' and he got elected again.

23:53

Then he said, 'Well, two terms aren't enough for me,

23:55

I need to be elected again.' People started

23:59

to get angry, people started taking to the

24:01

streets. He said, 'Fine, I'll hold a

24:03

referendum.' He held a referendum and

24:05

lost it. But after

24:08

losing the referendum, he had a whole

24:10

group of judges whom he himself had appointed.

24:12

Just like with Putin, this group

24:13

of servants came out and said, 'You know,

24:16

this violates our wonderful Bolshevik-style

24:19

constitution. We believe that Comrade

24:21

Morales should be able to run any number of times.'

24:23

So he spat on the referendum and

24:26

went into a new election, which

24:27

is, of course, a direct parallel with

24:30

Putin.

24:30

He rigged it, and what did he get?

24:33

He got protests, which we're about to see now.

24:35

37 seconds.

24:39

[music]

24:41

[applause]

24:59

[applause]

25:07

Only

25:08

[applause]

25:15

Well, as you can see, actually these are

25:17

pretty similar to Moscow—these kinds of

25:19

rallies that don't really look

25:22

particularly aggressive or

25:23

angry, but there were more and more of them.

25:25

These local

25:27

'white-ribbon' protesters (a reference to Russia's 2011–2012 protest movement) came out waving flags

25:29

and saying, 'What the hell? We don't want this.'

25:31

I mean, sure, Morales did raise

25:35

people's standard of living at one point

25:37

because there was our oil that

25:39

was coming from our dear Bolivian

25:42

soil. But come on—he was in power for one term,

25:45

then a second term, and that's enough, that's it.

25:48

We're done with this. Morales, just leave.' But

25:50

he didn't want to go, and more and more people came out.

25:52

Then what happened was exactly the thing

25:55

that, unfortunately, we still can't achieve:

25:57

so many people came out that simply

26:00

the police and the military switched to their side.

26:02

And that's how it happens everywhere, and that's how

26:04

it will happen here too, because all these

26:07

police officers, all these people in

26:08

uniform—they will, quite obviously,

26:10

ultimately swear loyalty and serve

26:13

society when they see

26:15

that people have still come out into the streets and

26:18

that what happened there is happening. Now let's

26:20

watch the wonderful

26:21

great Comrade Morales, who was

26:23

sure that, like Putin, he would be there forever.

26:25

He gave a 44-second speech and said that

26:28

he had to leave...

26:34

Germanu

26:39

turizmu

26:40

but at that moment... Rebecca, I...

26:49

the public sector... questioning... I...

26:53

from the intonation... some kind of combing her lies

27:00

are monster manus

27:02

donator minako dushu mir dets

27:05

but argue nosik top issues arise praded

27:08

patriot from bama zakon taylor

27:12

krysa lucha poley vanguard byuro pas if

27:17

If you read the subtitles, then you saw

27:19

exactly what it was: just a stream of absolute hypocrisy.

27:21

Really, with this kind of

27:23

sincere-eyed, 'brothers and sisters,' tone:

27:25

'The police dealt us an unexpected blow.'

27:27

Dude, you just shouldn't have

27:29

run again. Two terms—two

27:32

terms. You were in power for a long time,

27:35

for ten years, but that's it—bye-bye. Someone

27:37

else should become president. That's how

27:40

it works. People want power to

27:42

change hands. But first he lies, cheats, and his

27:45

judges spit on the constitution, and...

27:47

Then he says, “brothers and sisters,” and—

27:49

they dealt a blow. No, they didn’t deal any

27:51

blow at all. It’s just that all of us—in Bolivia and in

27:53

Russia—want power to change hands regularly.

27:56

Some people like Morales, some

27:58

people like Putin. Fine—then let’s elect

28:00

the next one. Why should we have to

28:02

live out our whole lives while you keep the president

28:05

in power? In practice, it all still

28:07

comes down to money and corruption. Putin is

28:10

monstrously corrupt, and Morales is

28:12

exactly the same. There were scandals involving his

28:15

family—brothers, daughters, and everyone

28:17

else—because no matter how much they

28:20

talk about “brothers and sisters,”

28:22

behind all of it there is simply

28:25

money, a desire for power, and a desire

28:27

for unchecked enrichment. And that’s why I’m

28:30

very glad that all of this happened in Bolivia

28:34

and that it is another example for us:

28:36

protests work, demonstrations work. If

28:39

we’re unhappy about something or want

28:42

to achieve something, we need to take to the streets and

28:45

not be afraid to come out as many times as

28:47

necessary. But in Bolivia, he didn’t leave

28:49

right away either. People came out once, then twice, then

28:52

the 22nd, the 23rd time—when a huge number of people came out,

28:54

the police said, “Well, it looks like that’s it,”

28:56

they won—and that’s what happened.

29:02

chillin gout, I guess that can be

29:05

read as: should we expect from you and your

29:06

team, in the end, a Strategy 2020—our

29:08

Strategy 2020? That’s Putin’s Strategy

29:11

2020. That’s a very good idea; of course we’ll

29:15

discuss it. CO2 asks me

29:17

to comment on Medvedev’s response about

29:19

the latest investigations. The latest

29:21

investigation—it seems Medvedev

29:22

our latest investigation was about Prosecutor

29:24

Popov, but as I understand it, Medvedev

29:26

didn’t comment on it. Maybe that

29:28

just happened right now; then we’ll discuss it

29:29

in the next program. But

29:32

before Popov, I’d like to discuss

29:35

Dmitry Rogozin’s tooth and Vladimir Putin’s

29:39

corruption. These things are very closely connected,

29:42

because this week Putin

29:45

simply stunned us. He had just been

29:47

defending Morales—you saw him, Morales, how he

29:49

was speaking in complete seriousness, saying

29:52

“brothers and sisters, how can this be, under

29:54

threat, democracy is being undermined,” and all that.

29:55

I understand that you’re a liar, a hypocrite, a crook, and

29:58

then Putin, with some kind of amazement,

30:01

was telling us, “My God, it turns out that at

30:03

the Vostochny Cosmodrome (a Russian spaceport),

30:04

there’s terrible corruption. No matter what you do, they still

30:07

steal hundreds of millions

30:09

of rubles.” Let’s listen to Vladimir

30:11

Putin,

30:11

who, in the twentieth year of his

30:13

presidency, is outraged by corruption: “A hundred

30:16

times it was said: work transparently,

30:19

the money is transparent, huge sums have been allocated, this

30:21

project is practically

30:23

of nationwide importance.”

30:24

“No, they steal hundreds of millions, by the hundreds

30:28

of millions.”

30:29

“There’s no order there; to this day they still haven’t

30:32

managed to establish proper order.” Whenever

30:38

you watch a video like that, you want to ask: who

30:39

are you addressing? A hundred times it was said?

30:42

Order? You haven’t managed to establish it in 20

30:45

years in power. He appoints all

30:47

the prosecutors, all the Interior Ministry chiefs, all the FSB

30:50

chiefs—and still, no, they just couldn’t establish order.

30:51

And why not? And who was saying, a hundred

30:54

times, long, long ago, that there was terrible

30:58

corruption in the construction of the Vostochny Cosmodrome?

31:01

Who said that there

31:03

billions would be stolen there? Who said

31:06

that what Dmitry Rogozin was doing

31:08

would lead to even more billions

31:10

being stolen? Vladimir Putin? No.

31:13

Here, please, look here: Alexei

31:15

Navalny talked about it, Lyubov Sobol talked

31:18

about it. We at the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) dealt with it quite

31:22

specifically,

31:25

with corruption in general and with the construction

31:27

of the Vostochny Cosmodrome. Sobol led that

31:29

project. We dug into

31:31

each specific construction site, how

31:33

when you build without documents, on

31:36

a site like that you can write down

31:37

whatever amount you want. And remember, back then Dmitry Rogozin

31:40

already had a whole—why did I remember

31:42

Rogozin’s tooth? He had a whole little

31:45

dust-up with that same Lyubov Sobol,

31:47

because in 2012 there was

31:49

his famous promise that he’d “bet his tooth”

31:53

that the Vostochny Cosmodrome would be built in

31:56

2012. Even then, we said

31:58

it would not be built, and Sobol

32:02

already in 2015, when it became clear

32:03

that we had been right, launched a whole project,

32:06

a whole campaign. She demanded that

32:08

Dmitry Rogozin

32:09

give her his tooth, because she

32:11

had won that argument and the Vostochny Cosmodrome

32:13

had not been built, and it was clear that it would not

32:16

be built. Show that post—we have

32:18

Sobol’s post where she demands the tooth from

32:21

Rogozin; there was such a funny

32:22

photo.

32:24

Well, let’s better watch the video of Sobol

32:28

for 50 seconds, where she argues with

32:30

Rogozin and demands that he give her his tooth

32:31

and talks about Vostochny: “I demand

32:34

that Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin

32:35

give me his tooth. Dmitry Rogozin,

32:38

you promised journalists you’d give up your tooth

32:40

if the Vostochny Cosmodrome was not

32:42

built in 2015. It is now 2016, but

32:46

the cosmodrome is still not ready. I know

32:48

how massive the corruption is and what a

32:49

mess is going on in the construction of

32:51

the Vostochny Cosmodrome.”

32:52

Most of the facilities at the Vostochny Cosmodrome

32:55

were built with serious violations

32:56

of urban planning regulations and rules

32:58

the construction of most of the key

33:01

facilities began before the preparation of

33:02

the official design documentation. I also

33:05

found out that for some of the sites

33:07

Roscosmos and the organizations subordinate to it

33:09

entered into fictitious state

33:10

contracts worth hundreds of millions of rubles and

33:12

what’s more, they are still doing it now

33:14

this is the most corrupt construction project in

33:17

the country, but instead of at least

33:19

trying to restore order, Dmitry Rogozin

33:21

boasts on Twitter about the jailing of a lead

33:23

engineer who took a bribe of 50,000

33:26

rubles (about a few hundred U.S. dollars). Heard that? Yes, that was three years ago, well

33:31

they actually started dealing with this back in 2012

33:32

three years ago, Sobol spoke out and

33:34

said: this is the most corrupt

33:36

construction project in the country, which was already

33:38

to which Rogozin replied, basically: idiot, shut up, you

33:40

don’t understand anything, don’t stick your nose into

33:42

things that aren’t your business, we are great space people, you don’t

33:45

understand the issue at all, just some pathetic lawyers

33:47

but as it turned out, we were right. If only

33:49

Putin and Rogozin and everyone else had

33:52

listened to us back then — and even better, if

33:55

they had left their posts when they were

33:58

supposed to, in 2008, they would no longer have been

34:01

there, then the corruption during

34:03

the construction of Vostochny (the Russian spaceport) either would not have

34:05

existed or would have been far less severe

34:07

because either you want

34:10

to fight corruption, or you don’t

34:11

and all this time, this whole

34:15

crowd

34:17

in Spetsstroy, the FSB, and the rest of them

34:20

the whole of Roscosmos — they, precisely they, are the ones who

34:25

supervised it, the ones who built it, and the ones who stole

34:28

those billions. And now Putin says, yes

34:31

yes, how could this happen — and now they say

34:32

criminal cases have been opened, hundreds

34:35

of millions, billions were stolen, and they recovered

34:38

some utterly trivial amount; the rest will not

34:39

be returned. Well, because who is going to

34:41

return it? The very same people who

34:46

opened a small number of

34:48

criminal cases — they controlled all of this

34:50

they took part in this corruption. But

34:52

of course, when a company

34:54

starts construction without the required permits

34:56

and paperwork, they get the money, they

35:00

effectively begin “using” it for something, well

35:02

of course they delivered a few suitcases of cash

35:04

to the supervising FSB people, because

35:07

of course the security services control

35:08

the progress of construction at this cosmodrome

35:12

Vostochny — everyone there knew perfectly well

35:14

that if you are doing anything at all without

35:16

documents, first of all you are not

35:18

digging the right thing at all — which is exactly what happened

35:20

so, you know, to this day there are almost no

35:22

launches from Vostochny because it was simply

35:24

built incorrectly. Well, that’s how it was “resolved”

35:27

with this suitcase, that suitcase, the *chemodan* (suitcase of cash), because

35:29

when they started building, all of this was estimated at

35:31

120 billion rubles, and as of today

35:33

construction costs are 300 billion — 300

35:36

more than double

35:38

all of this has ballooned, but it is obvious that out of those

35:40

30 billion, several billion

35:42

rubles

35:43

went precisely to the people who were supposed to

35:46

be making these arrests. And it would be

35:50

simply ridiculous

35:51

to expect that we can get builders to show

35:55

any desire to work without

35:58

corruption

35:59

if everyone here is steeped in that corruption

36:01

here I would like to smoothly move on to

36:04

our wonderful Moscow prosecutor

36:06

about whom we released an investigation on

36:08

Monday. Huge thanks to everyone who

36:10

shared it

36:11

and it needs further

36:14

circulation, because this is once again

36:16

another great example of how this Putin regime

36:19

won’t achieve a damn thing

36:20

for an entirely objective reason

36:22

because their prosecutors are exactly the kind

36:24

like this one

36:25

because, well, you see, we

36:29

are not the FSB, we are nobody, yet we found these villas in

36:32

Montenegro and houses in Spain

36:33

and he — he was only supposed to be doing his job

36:37

he was the prosecutor of Moscow, he was the prosecutor of

36:38

Dagestan too — they basically sent a goat

36:42

to guard the cabbage patch, one of the most

36:44

corrupt republics, and there

36:46

they send a man who by that point had already

36:48

with some incomprehensible money

36:50

built hotels in Montenegro

36:52

houses in Spain, and he arrives to fight

36:55

corruption in Dagestan. What do you think

36:57

the hell is going to happen? Will he defeat corruption

36:59

in Dagestan

37:00

or will he make enough for a couple more hotels abroad

37:02

abroad? Let’s spend 1 minute 20 seconds

37:05

just going over it once again — this is

37:09

what property the Moscow prosecutor owns

37:12

this is what his family built

37:14

with money of unclear origin, and what, well

37:16

obviously

37:20

his superiors could have found out with the slightest desire

37:23

or the FSB bodies or other

37:26

oversight agencies, if they had even the

37:29

slightest interest in making the prosecutor’s office

37:32

less corrupt. How can anyone expect anything

37:35

when our

37:38

Moscow prosecutor is effectively the second

37:40

person in the prosecution hierarchy, where there is

37:42

the Prosecutor General, then the Moscow prosecutor

37:44

not counting the deputy prosecutor general

37:45

but overall, in practical terms

37:48

the Moscow prosecutor is person

37:50

number two. Let’s look at what this man managed

37:54

to acquire while earning at the time

37:56

some 60,000 rubles a month. We’re flying over

37:59

Ahead, by the bay in Qatar, there’s a small

38:01

tourist village.

38:02

The Marine hotel, which we just

38:04

visited, is up ahead. Its area is more than 1,000

38:07

square meters. Obviously, the main thing here

38:10

is not the rooms, of course,

38:11

but the view — it’s simply priceless. Still, the house itself

38:14

can be valued at

38:16

€1.5 million. Well, just look

38:18

for yourselves: construction is in full swing, and they’re building three great

38:21

chalets, 250 square meters each. The entire

38:24

surrounding area — almost a hectare —

38:27

belongs to our company. And buenos dias,

38:29

Mr. Popov: we discover your family’s townhouse

38:32

in the city of Marbella.

38:33

Here it is — this is what Denis Popov risked

38:36

his prosecutorial career for: a beautiful

38:39

225-square-meter townhouse just 200 meters

38:42

from the sea, in a great residential complex with four-

38:45

story buildings with terraces and

38:46

balconies, and in the middle

38:48

there’s a pool and ponds. And now an apartment like this

38:51

costs around €1 million, at

38:53

the very least.

38:54

The main house is 660 square meters, four stories tall.

38:57

Behind it there’s something like a gazebo with

38:59

columns.

39:00

And of course, the second house is impressive too:

39:02

380 square meters, but with an entire underground floor and

39:05

a rooftop pool. Astrakhan Region (in southern Russia):

39:08

200 kilometers from Astrakhan and 80

39:10

kilometers from Volgograd — a whole

39:13

fishing lodge, and also a recreation base on

39:15

the riverbank: a hotel, a restaurant, a tennis

39:18

court,

39:19

a swimming pool — all of it on 1.5 hectares

39:21

of land. And now let’s return to the question from Alexei

39:25

Oboi, who asked me about

39:28

how exactly this information was sent to us

39:32

by the employees of the prosecutor’s office themselves.

39:34

The prosecutor’s office.

39:34

What did they tell us? We have 75,000

39:38

people watching us live — some kind of

39:40

anomalous number. Well, I’m very glad, I’m

39:42

very glad you all came. It’s great, it’s

39:44

wonderful. I hope you’re not

39:46

some sinister bots, and that Margarita

39:48

Simonyan (a prominent Russian state media figure) won’t be tomorrow

39:50

saying that we’re artificially inflating the live

39:51

stream. So anyway, I’d just like

39:57

to answer Alexei.

39:58

What people from the prosecutor’s office wrote to us about, among other things, was this:

40:00

you can see even from

40:02

the set of properties alone that this is a very

40:05

strange, eclectic mix. There’s

40:07

some hotels in Montenegro, they started

40:10

building them — such a strange investment

40:12

project. At first they wanted to sell apartments

40:14

at the hotel,

40:15

then a second hotel in the mountains, then

40:19

they buy something in Spain, then in

40:21

Astrakhan Region a fishing lodge.

40:23

These are clearly not the kinds of businesses that can

40:26

generate money, because from everything

40:30

it’s obvious they were simply bringing in suitcases of

40:33

cash. You can hide it under the

40:35

floor, as we saw in the case of that colonel from the Interior Ministry in Ufa,

40:38

or police officer Zakharchenko.

40:40

But where do you invest it? It’s obvious that

40:43

he was simply trying to stash away this money

40:45

that was burning a hole in his pocket,

40:48

somewhere. I’m sure we didn’t find a lot of things.

40:50

I have no doubt whatsoever that we

40:52

didn’t find most of it. I mean,

40:54

there’s just a lot of money — but where do you put it? Let’s say

40:57

someone brought €2 million

40:58

for some case. You need to somehow

41:00

put it somewhere — so you buy a hotel in Montenegro, and then

41:02

they bring another 500,000. What do you do with that

41:04

500,000? To avoid panic, you buy an apartment

41:05

in Spain. But this

41:08

is impossible to hide. First of all, you

41:09

have to keep going there all the time. Second,

41:11

it’s a whole operation — hotels,

41:13

a fishing lodge — all of this

41:17

has staff, people connected to the fishing lodge,

41:19

friends, acquaintances — people talk.

41:22

Naturally, some lower-level

41:24

employees of the prosecutor’s office

41:26

work in a totally corrupt institution, but we

41:28

understand that, first, some

41:29

corrupt officials envy other

41:31

corrupt officials, and second, you can’t rule out

41:32

the possibility that there are still some decent people

41:34

there. This information can’t be hidden, so

41:37

someone got angry and said:

41:38

check out Popov’s assets — the guy is

41:40

openly buying hotels in

41:42

Montenegro. Look, there’s this whole hotel in

41:44

Montenegro. They wrote to us, and we started

41:47

looking.

41:47

To be honest, we were a little skeptical, but

41:50

then we discovered: yes, the man was simply

41:53

buying things in his wife’s name, and at the same time

41:56

he was supposed to list them in his asset

41:57

declaration. He listed nothing in the declaration. His salary

42:00

at that moment was 700,000

42:02

rubles a year — that’s about 60,000 rubles a

42:05

month. His wife’s income: zero. And yet he buys and

42:08

keeps buying. It’s impossible to hide

42:10

that, which is why people write to us. And now

42:13

you’ve just seen all of this.

42:15

Now, against that backdrop,

42:17

let’s enjoy how the prosecutor, when he was

42:20

being appointed,

42:21

to Moscow, spoke in the Moscow

42:23

City Duma — the very one where they did not allow

42:27

the

42:27

independent candidates in. And here’s a question for you again, by the way:

42:29

did he want there to be, in the Moscow

42:33

City Duma, did Prosecutor Popov want

42:36

even a single person there who would

42:38

ask him

42:41

questions about his real estate?

42:42

They ended up there thanks to you and

42:44

thanks to Smart Voting (an opposition tactical voting strategy), we have

42:46

representatives from both the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and A Just Russia,

42:48

as well as Yabloko — all three opposition

42:50

The factions sent parliamentary inquiries.

42:53

so that Prosecutor Popov would answer

42:57

us where exactly he got the money from.

43:00

for all this real estate. Of course, he

43:02

did not want these people to get elected, precisely

43:04

which is why he actively helped

43:07

block the registration of all independent

43:09

candidates. There is, like, a direct connection here.

43:11

He has a vital personal interest in there being

43:14

no independent people there at all. Thanks to

43:16

you, they got through. But let’s go back—44 seconds

43:20

of how Popov speaks before

43:22

the deputies. Let’s appreciate this—he’s just

43:24

such an exceptionally honest man. Appointment

43:27

to the post of Moscow prosecutor is, for me,

43:29

without a doubt, a very important stage

43:31

in my work and in my life. It is an element

43:34

of serious trust on the part of

43:36

the leadership of the Prosecutor General’s Office

43:37

of the Russian Federation, which I am obliged

43:40

to justify, as well as an opportunity to apply

43:42

my professional qualities and knowledge in

43:45

the cause of protecting the rights and freedoms of citizens,

43:46

the legally protected interests of society and

43:49

the state. The problems and pressing issues

43:51

that concern the city’s residents are familiar to me.

43:53

Special attention must be paid

43:55

to the protection of the rights

43:57

of entrepreneurs, and to the targeted use of funds.

44:00

In September of this year, there will be

44:03

elections to the City Duma. The Moscow prosecutor’s office

44:06

will traditionally take part in

44:08

ensuring legality during their conduct.

44:11

Great, right? The Moscow prosecutor’s office will

44:14

traditionally take part in ensuring

44:17

the rule of law. Translated into

44:20

plain human language:

44:20

we will do everything so that not a single person sits here

44:23

who might start asking questions about

44:25

my hotels in Montenegro.

44:28

It really does sound astonishing, by the way.

44:30

Our investigation has already been watched by

44:32

more than two million people, and

44:34

it has caused quite a stir. Deputies are writing,

44:36

asking the prosecutor why he wrote

44:38

all those petty cases, but Popov is silent, completely silent.

44:40

The Prosecutor General’s Office under Chaika (former Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika) is silent too.

44:43

Silent. So millions of people

44:45

are discussing the fact that your number two man in

44:48

the prosecutor’s office is a crook and a thief, that he has illegally

44:51

and unjustifiably enriched himself, and they simply

44:52

say nothing. They could come out and say: we have nothing to do with this,

44:56

this is all lies, all deception. But they stay silent. So

44:59

it’s clear they have two possible strategies.

45:01

Either it will be like with Sergunina (Moscow Deputy Mayor Natalia Sergunina),

45:03

where they say absolutely nothing because

45:05

that operation is impossible. When we released

45:07

our investigation into Deputy Mayor Sergunina, she still

45:09

has not said a single word.

45:11

Sobyanin (Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin) still has not said

45:13

a single word either. There is simply ironclad

45:15

evidence that people are stealing

45:16

billions, and they just pretend nothing

45:20

is happening—oh look, what cute cats,

45:22

that’s all we care about now.

45:25

Nothing else. And these people will do the same—just

45:27

stay silent.

45:27

Or else, as happened in

45:30

some cases with Medvedev (former Russian president and prime minister Dmitry Medvedev),

45:32

after some time,

45:33

a few weeks, when it seems the situation has

45:35

kind of

45:36

been forgotten, they will then file

45:40

some nonsense lawsuit against us, and that court case

45:41

they will win—and in one day, just like they

45:44

win all the other court cases. Like how

45:46

some noodle restaurant in Armenia is supposedly winning now,

45:48

and then they’ll run after me shouting,

45:50

“Immediately delete your

45:51

investigation—it damages the honor

45:52

and dignity of our most honest prosecutor.”

45:54

And when asked where he got the money for all

45:57

of this, they say, well, that has absolutely nothing

45:59

to do with the court proceedings, that’s

46:01

nonsense, his wife bought it all—and he divorced

46:03

his wife.

46:04

And the fact that in 2010 he was not divorced yet—

46:06

well, that was back in 2010, and

46:08

in general, please produce a video recording

46:12

of the wife saying, “I built these

46:14

hotels with corrupt money.” There is no

46:15

video recording, so you were unable to

46:17

prove anything—delete your video. But what should we

46:21

do now? Spread

46:22

the investigation, first and foremost.

46:23

Spread it so that people see it.

46:25

How many people are watching the live stream

46:27

right now?

46:27

More than 75,000 people. If every tenth

46:32

one of you watching live simply

46:35

shares this link one more time, then already

46:38

millions of Russian citizens

46:41

—millions—will see all of this, and that matters.

46:44

Because if we want, sooner or later,

46:46

for people to understand the moral situation,

46:48

on a mass scale, all of it,

46:49

and to take to the streets, then we need to

46:51

explain it to them. And the situation with Popov once again

46:53

perfectly shows that there are no

46:55

prospects for our country as long as power

46:58

remains in the hands of Putin, Popov, and Chaika.

47:01

Now let’s look at the questions. Valentin

47:04

asks: what can you say about agents for

47:06

individuals? Indeed, right now

47:08

they are adopting some strange law under

47:10

which individuals can be

47:12

designated as foreign agents. I assume that

47:16

this is, of course, being done specifically for us.

47:17

They rigged, put together some kind of

47:20

scheme to designate FBK (the Anti-Corruption Foundation) as

47:22

a foreign agent, because some

47:24

strange guy from Spain, as you may remember,

47:27

who knew nothing about us, knew nothing

47:29

about Russia, nevertheless sent

47:31

$2,000 to our blocked

47:33

account. We were unable to return it, and we were

47:34

declared a foreign agent. And the point

47:36

of the new law is that if you

47:38

if you receive money from a foreign agent,

47:41

I mean, if you get a salary from one,

47:43

then you too can be designated as an individual

47:47

foreign agent, and so if

47:49

you post on Facebook or write on

47:51

Twitter, apparently on every single post

47:52

you have to write that you are a foreign agent,

47:55

so in this way they can designate a great many people

47:58

as foreign agents, I don’t know,

48:01

journalists from a huge number of media outlets and

48:03

just ordinary people. If you run ads on YouTube,

48:08

for example, we don’t have ads on YouTube, but those

48:10

people who do,

48:11

who have ads on YouTube—those four seconds

48:13

of ads you watch before a video—well, they

48:15

get monetization from that, some kind of

48:17

tiny amount, but it still comes in. And where

48:19

does it come from? From California, from the state of

48:22

California. So that means you’re receiving money from

48:24

YouTube, which means you’re a foreign agent, and you

48:26

will have to create a legal entity.

48:28

I mean, it’s some kind of hellish

48:29

absolutely

48:30

law aimed at everyone who

48:33

writes anything at all on social media in Russia.

48:37

Viktor Medved asks: this week

48:39

Putin supported the idea of celebrating

48:40

the liberation from the Tatar-Mongol yoke (the period of Mongol domination over Rus’), well,

48:42

though it seems they later denied it; he did support it, but

48:44

none of this moved into any practical

48:46

stage. But in fact, you can see

48:49

with what pomp they celebrated

48:52

the anniversary,

48:54

the anniversary of the 1941 parade, good Lord. In

48:59

Soviet times, when all those

49:01

veterans were still alive,

49:02

they never celebrated anything even remotely like this

49:04

because, well, basically,

49:07

what can Putin sell

49:09

as an achievement? There’s no economy, no science,

49:12

no education, nothing. All he can

49:13

talk about is how he, Vladimir

49:15

Putin, and his Igor Sechin,

49:18

Vladimir Medinsky, I don’t know, some

49:20

Alexei Miller, how they won the Great

49:23

Patriotic War (the Soviet term for World War II), and that’s what they

49:25

are selling. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they

49:28

keep inventing more and more and

49:30

more amazing holidays. I’ll say a couple more

49:34

words about how we filmed this

49:36

video. It was actually a fairly

49:37

funny story.

49:38

By the way, I’d be interested in your feedback

49:40

about the fact that we recorded

49:42

this not in the way I usually do—a talking

49:44

head against a black background,

49:46

somewhere out in the fields, with some kind of my

49:50

acting skills, which came to me

49:52

of course

49:54

rather painfully. If you had seen

49:55

how many takes I had to redo—this whole

49:57

“I want to end up in the prosecutor’s apartment”

49:59

makes you feel very stupid. But it seems

50:02

people are writing that it’s more interesting than

50:06

a regular standard video, and here

50:08

it’s a classic situation:

50:11

no blessing in disguise—misfortune

50:13

helped us out. We never would have started making

50:15

this kind of video

50:17

if all this equipment hadn’t been seized from us.

50:19

There’s a studio right next to us where

50:22

I usually record videos, but in it

50:23

you can’t record now because, well,

50:25

there isn’t even any light there—they took absolutely

50:27

everything out of it. So we recorded

50:29

it in a funny way. Let’s watch a few

50:30

seconds of how we recorded this in my

50:32

apartment in Maryino (a district of Moscow), so you can see how

50:34

the lighting was set up for this video.

50:37

Kira, tell me please, specifically

50:39

did you learn to bend like that, or what?

50:45

Kira, it’s a very difficult profession, but at least it comes with

50:48

a prize: amazing white slippers.

50:53

We really did record this in my

50:55

apartment, and instead of a lighting fixture

50:57

we just used a desk lamp from my

50:59

children’s table, which my press secretary

51:02

Kira Yarmysh was simply holding in her hands.

51:04

Now let’s take a look—actually there

51:07

really was

51:08

this funny episode when we

51:10

were recording all this, fully aware that

51:12

this woman there, a friend of the family

51:14

of Popov, was literally on

51:16

one balcony, while I was whispering all this, and on

51:18

the other balcony you could clearly hear that

51:20

people were sitting there watching some Russian

51:23

TV series.

51:23

There’s a 44:37 segment from this apartment

51:27

a kind of backstage clip so that

51:31

you can see how we were recording. We posted a bunch of jokes in

51:33

Instagram—go enjoy them on my Instagram.

51:36

I’m waving to everyone from the car after

51:38

we upload the video about the crooks in the prosecutor’s office

51:40

in Moscow, and very quietly

51:42

look, it’s actually beautiful here,

51:46

there’s a balcony—basically, over there

51:57

right nearby, you know, someone is sitting clearly

52:00

who is that prosecutor’s friend. Very

52:02

quietly, he’s talking about them and filming on the balcony.

52:07

Really, my main—personally my main—

52:09

problem was simply

52:11

to slip into this apartment, because, well,

52:13

we understand that the prosecutor’s friend, with

52:16

99 percent probability, watches

52:20

my channel, because certain kinds of

52:21

investigations—we know very well

52:26

that some of our most attentive

52:27

viewers are all sorts of crooks and thieves

52:31

and their family members, because they’re

52:32

interested in how we expose

52:35

their colleagues and how they should

52:37

behave so they don’t get caught themselves.

52:39

So I understood that someone might

52:41

recognize me there. I didn’t want anyone

52:43

to know that I was in Montenegro; I flew there with a layover,

52:46

trying to keep a low profile. It was all

52:49

funny—you put on a cap, you put on glasses.

52:52

When we arrive in Montenegro, we're met by money changers.

52:54

Burov leads us to the car; it seems like we've gotten away from everyone.

52:56

We slipped away, no one saw me, and then suddenly—out of nowhere—

52:59

across the whole parking lot, some guy

53:00

starts shouting, “Alexei! Alexei! I want”

53:02

“to take a picture!” He comes over. I mean, in

53:05

Montenegro there are just tons of Russians, and

53:07

it's pretty hard to stay hidden. But we still always

53:09

try to make sure that

53:11

the subjects of our investigations find out about

53:13

them at the exact moment everyone else does,

53:15

when someone sends them a link to the video,

53:17

they open YouTube and see that there's a film about them.

53:20

So please write to us and let us know

53:22

your feedback.

53:22

How much did you like this new

53:26

format? Should we keep using it or not?

53:28

Should I, Georgy, and the others keep portraying

53:31

all these characters, or should we keep using some kind of miracle

53:33

actors in our report videos? This week there was a very popular video on this

53:39

topic that was, well, kind of

53:42

comical, and I joked about it.

53:44

It was also one of those, you know, kind of

53:46

videos where it's funny, even though the situation is actually terrifying.

53:49

If you want to get something done in our country, fall to your knees

53:52

before some crook like this.

53:54

Medvedev went to Siberia. He went

53:57

to Novosibirsk, then to Altai, and all of it

53:59

was staged with some kind of huge pomp this

54:02

time, along with total, super-mega

54:04

security.

54:05

Just look at how, in particular, in

54:06

Novosibirsk, police officers were lined up along the road.

54:08

They were literally placed there like posts.

54:10

Usually, when a government

54:12

motorcade passes, officers are stationed at intersections

54:14

and crosswalks simply so that

54:15

no one gets in the way of

54:17

the motorcade or accidentally drives out in front of

54:19

the cars. But here they were just standing there like posts,

54:22

all across Novosibirsk.

54:23

Let's watch 30 seconds of Medvedev driving into

54:30

the city of Novosibirsk.

54:33

They were standing there every few dozen meters.

54:50

That's what it looked like.

54:52

There they are—our police-posts, lined up like that.

54:58

Across the whole city. Don't you feel sorry for them? Poor police officers.

55:02

They don't want this. No one asks them

55:04

whether they want to be there. But let them, too, be

55:07

part of this idiocy, because they

55:09

force citizens to play along with this

55:11

idiocy, and then the authorities do the same to them.

55:14

It's like a whole vertical of idiocy

55:16

running from bottom to top and top to bottom. So anyway,

55:18

he also went to Altai, and as usual

55:20

there was a lot of the usual nonsense that

55:22

Medvedev spouts. We understand perfectly well that

55:24

he is a rather disgusting

55:26

corrupt official, a crook and a thief, and his

55:27

corruption takes a particularly revolting

55:30

form: he collects money from—well, as we explained in our investigation—

55:32

we talked about this in our investigation—

55:34

through all sorts of pseudo-charitable foundations (a reference to the anti-corruption film *He Is Not Dimon to You*)

55:35

and from various big

55:37

oligarchs, and spends it on all sorts of his own

55:39

palaces. And then some woman simply

55:41

ran up and literally dropped to

55:44

her knees. Why? Why are people falling to their knees

55:48

before Medvedev in Russia in 2019?

55:51

A country that claims it wants to be among

55:54

the world's top five—whatever that means—

55:57

artificial intelligence, nanotechnology,

55:59

everything super-mega-advanced, a leading global

56:03

power, respected once again on

56:06

the world stage—and yet here we are.

56:08

She falls to the ground before him because

56:11

she has no hot water. Thirty seconds that

56:13

some channels played off as something else, but which are actually

56:15

deeply humiliating.

56:18

And this wasn't, mind you, some remote backwater

56:49

village in the middle of nowhere where there's nothing.

56:51

This is a city, with a gas boiler house.

56:54

A gas boiler house—Gazprom, the “national treasure,” as they call it.

56:57

As you may remember, Gazprom funds

56:59

football teams, builds

57:02

all kinds of flashy buildings; at Gazprom's expense, everything

57:05

Gazprom managers have become millionaires,

57:07

all the contractors have become billionaires, but

57:11

for some reason, in order to get

57:14

what they are legally entitled to—

57:16

hot water—because if a building has no hot

57:18

water, it shouldn't even be classified as residential.

57:20

A multi-story apartment building with no hot

57:23

water for years is some kind of illegal absurdity

57:27

that the authorities should have dealt with long ago.

57:29

They should have sorted it out, and besides,

57:31

where it is technically impossible to connect hot

57:33

water, no residential building should be built there in the first place.

57:35

Right? Can you imagine Trump

57:38

coming to Detroit, say, and then

57:41

some local elderly woman runs through the security cordon

57:43

falls to her knees and says,

57:45

“Mr. Trump, for three years now we haven't been able

57:49

to get hot water in our building—140 apartments have no

57:52

hot water.” Can you imagine that

57:54

happening with any leader of a normal country?

57:57

But that's exactly how it is here.

57:59

Damn it, everything in our country is arranged so that

58:02

people can live for years in a major city

58:05

without hot water.

58:06

And their problem can only be solved by some

58:09

crook from Moscow showing up—and only

58:11

in exceptional circumstances, if you run up

58:14

and drop to your knees before him. And then

58:16

that woman said—meaning, she

58:18

barely got through the security cordon—and

58:21

that someone tripped her. I don't know; it doesn't

58:24

look like someone tripped her. It looks

58:26

like she really did fall to her knees. But this is

58:29

truly, deeply humiliating for the whole

58:32

country—for the entire country.

58:34

How are people supposed to solve their

58:38

most basic problems?

58:39

If that woman hadn't fallen to her knees,

58:42

Medvedev would have come, Medvedev would have left, and there still

58:46

would have been no hot water—just as before. And if

58:48

those people later, without cameras, without

58:51

Medvedev around, had gone chasing after the governor...

58:53

so that they would properly get 15 days in jail

58:56

of arrest for the fact that they

58:58

in some way disturbed the peace of these

59:03

wonderful people, and by the way

59:04

very wonderful, yes. Moving on as well

59:06

Medvedev explained how he would solve the problem

59:11

here, this part—let's watch 19

59:12

seconds

59:13

Medvedev's answer about what needs to be done with

59:16

a territory where there isn't even hot

59:18

water, and yet development will happen, here

59:27

first he killed her, chopped her into several pieces

59:30

before that, he dumped some body part into

59:34

the video recording—we can watch it

59:36

actively, by the way. A separate issue

59:38

that simply outrages me is that this

59:43

shows how our

59:46

police work. All these video recordings

59:48

the video of him throwing away

59:50

some body parts into the Fontanka River

59:52

we'll play it without sound; you'll hear what I

59:55

am saying. There, there, there—you can see, there he is

59:57

the idiot walks up to the embankment

1:00:00

throws some bag in there, walks away, then after

1:00:04

some time. This video recording is from

1:00:08

the materials of the criminal case, of course

1:00:10

a high-profile murder. So, such a

1:00:13

brutal one—the whole country is discussing it, and

1:00:15

the police are leaking it left and right

1:00:19

all of it. Yesterday on Twitter I saw a head from

1:00:22

the girl's severed head, all covered in blood

1:00:25

it's all been published, the internet is flooded

1:00:28

with photographs that are official

1:00:30

confidential material, and damn it, the relatives seeing

1:00:33

it, and some friends and acquaintances—how is any of this

1:00:36

all this is part of a criminal

1:00:38

case. These are all confidential things, and for

1:00:41

the safekeeping of these confidential materials

1:00:43

the officers in uniform are responsible, and they

1:00:46

really ought to be fired. Nevertheless, they

1:00:48

for fun or for whatever reason, send

1:00:51

it off somewhere, leaking this severed

1:00:53

head or whatever else, and all of this

1:00:55

gets discussed—haha, hehe, lots of jokes on this

1:00:59

topic, but still

1:01:01

these police officers need to be fired because

1:01:04

because they should use their

1:01:07

heads before publishing all this

1:01:09

secondly, they should remember the

1:01:10

relatives—they should think about them, they

1:01:12

should remember the law, and in general

1:01:15

excuse me, but how can we

1:01:17

expect the safekeeping of any kind of

1:01:19

in such a nomenklatura-style organization (a Soviet-style bureaucratic elite structure), very

1:01:21

he was very fond of Vladimir Putin. Some time

1:01:23

ago, pranksters fooled him

1:01:25

they called him and asked whether he wanted to become

1:01:27

a trusted representative, and he was practically

1:01:29

squealing with delight, saying how much he loved

1:01:31

Vladimir Putin, how much he adored Crimea

1:01:35

and everything else, how badly he wanted

1:01:36

to be given some kind of early promotion

1:01:38

in the academic elite, another rank, so that

1:01:40

he would be made a professor. He adored

1:01:42

Vladimir Putin. Well, naturally here

1:01:44

everyone really piled onto this

1:01:47

Putin-lover, because it simply turned out

1:01:50

that he, like all great lovers

1:01:53

of Vladimir Putin, had something not quite right

1:01:55

in his head

1:01:55

however, all this is not the main part of our

1:01:59

story, because, well, a family drama

1:02:04

an argument

1:02:05

a husband killed his wife, a wife killed her husband—this is what

1:02:08

happens in Russia every single day, sadly

1:02:12

to great regret. The story took on new

1:02:16

dimensions when first this

1:02:18

Military-Historical Society

1:02:19

which had been very proud of this Sokolov removed

1:02:22

him from its lists and started lying that

1:02:25

he had never even been a member

1:02:27

naturally, the entire internet was

1:02:28

instantly filled with screenshots

1:02:31

from the Google cache and the Yandex cache showing that

1:02:34

it was all lies—he was a member

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of the Military-Historical Society, he

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belongs to that whole circle of Putin's

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cheerleaders who, well, help him

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use

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history to strengthen his power, but

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Putin's goal

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the rector of this St. Petersburg

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university, and in fact his influence

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and administrative resources are greatly

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underestimated by many people. He is an important person

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a very corrupt person, a person

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who is robbing St. Petersburg

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University, but in some sense gives

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a kind of immunity to many such pro-Putin figures

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there, who sit under his wing. So

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as for Sokolov

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for me, this story took on the most

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striking new dimensions when I, like

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everyone else, saw the complaint that

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had been filed against him back in 2008. Let's

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read it

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what another

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student wrote about him—his live-in partner, who lived

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with Sokolov. He grabbed me by the hands and began

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tying me up with a rope that he had prepared

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in advance

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Sokolov went into the next room while

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I was left tied up in the hallway

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he returned with an iron and plugged it into

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the outlet. When the iron heated up, he brought it to

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my face so that I could feel the

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heat coming off it, and began threatening that he would disfigure me

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for life, after which he methodically began

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beating me in the face, head, and nose

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striking blow after blow

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she filed a report with the police. This

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report was submitted, and after that

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there were many more scandals involving this Sokolov, but

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really

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he was some kind of sick pervert, I mean

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we understand, family life

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people

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can have conflicts, but when

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A person takes

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an iron, damn it, heats it up, ties him up, his own

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life in this cohabiting relationship movement

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reenactors, definitely enthusiasts

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who like dressing up in all kinds of military uniforms

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from old times, reenacting

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historical events. Nikita says they’re all

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crazy, but that’s absolutely not true.

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There are many of them there, and most of them

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are completely normal people. But this guy, in

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particular, somewhere in France or

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Spain, they came for one of their reenactments

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of the Napoleonic Wars and killed a horse. I mean,

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the guy was clearly some kind of

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protected, mentally unstable

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unbalanced sadist. He was running around with this

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red-hot iron, and the police did nothing.

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And now there’s a discussion going on there, and here too

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there was a discussion at the foundation too, but she

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filed a statement.

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So, not secretly, not because—then later

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in an article I wrote that this woman filed a complaint in

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2008 over a death threat, but here it wasn’t

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a death threat. But this should still

1:05:09

work the same way: a woman comes to the police,

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an 18-year-old girl at the time, and says,

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“You know, this man tied me to

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a chair and waved a hot iron in front of my

1:05:20

face, after which he beat me while I was tied to

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the chair.” How could this person have remained

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free?

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How could this person have remained at

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the university? There were a huge number of

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complaints against him there.

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Conflicts, fights during lectures—well, because

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the whole system was protecting him.

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Why was it protecting him? Because he

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loves Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

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because he is a member of the Military-Historical

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Society, because with this Karpachyov

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he entered this kind of

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political and ideological nomenklatura (the Soviet-style ruling establishment)

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creative and academic—specifically Putinist

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nomenklatura. There aren’t that many of them,

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a marginal

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media support crew. Sokolov was an important

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part of it. That’s why our state

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is structured this way: if you

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serve them, then please—go ahead, brand people with an iron

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if you like.

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Burn whoever you want. If back then he

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hadn’t gotten drunk but had gone out sober

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to dispose of those arms and had thrown out first

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the arms

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and then thrown out the head, I have no doubt

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that he would have remained completely unpunished, and

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already we can see some kind of sympathy

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toward him from the sidelines.

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At first, this whole state-aligned camp

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got scared: well, we’re not going to

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defend some lunatic who

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cut a person into pieces and ran off

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to dump them in the river. At first they

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distanced themselves from him.

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But now it’s more like, well, overall,

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you know, it’s not so clear-cut, maybe

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she provoked him, maybe he was in a state of

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temporary insanity—let’s feel sorry for him now, glasses

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for him, let’s pass them to him, let’s watch 17 minutes

1:06:49

of him.

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Members visit him from the detention center,

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and help him there, and some boys

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brought things too, some kind of support for him

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was organized, and you can notice

1:07:35

there are definitely posters. And meanwhile, since

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it was all raked together, you can read it better now:

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“By law, I am entitled to this. I made a mistake once

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in my life, one time, in my private life.”

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Well yes, except no one tried to burn through

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someone with an iron. In 2018, Maxim

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Reznik

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read it out in the legislature and sent a St. Petersburg

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inquiry to Golikova in connection with this

1:08:32

inappropriate behavior by this Sokolov,

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in connection with the fact that someone there was killed—or not killed—

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some student, but nobody cared

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because Sokolov, Putin, Karpachyov—they

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are all friends with each other, and to hell with

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everyone else.

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You have no right to criticize our

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wonderful Professor Napoleon. Does he really need

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to have

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to cut off someone’s arms

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or someone’s legs before only then

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something starts moving somehow?

1:08:56

The machine starts turning, and at the same time people come to him.

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It’s not that anyone is demanding

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that he be shot immediately. Like any

1:09:03

other person, he deserves at least some

1:09:06

lawful conditions of detention in prison, and any other

1:09:09

person deserves the right to a defense,

1:09:12

of course. But please explain to me

1:09:14

why everyone else, in St. Petersburg,

1:09:16

which is famous for the fact that they

1:09:19

grab opposition activists and torture them

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with electric shocks, and then, as you may remember

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or have probably read, in those cases they say

1:09:25

“You know, those electrical marks on

1:09:28

the person’s face and body—it wasn’t us beating him

1:09:31

with a stun gun, he was bitten

1:09:34

by insects.” And the court says, yes, yes, yes, he was

1:09:36

bitten by insects. Yet Sokolov—Napoleon and

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the dismemberer—is being held in normal conditions, and

1:09:41

already now

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he is being given some kind of—not exactly

1:09:45

sympathetic treatment, but they are somehow keeping him

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according to the law.

1:09:49

But all the other ordinary people—according

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to the law, supposedly—while the rest are tortured

1:09:54

with electric shocks. But with Sokolov, everything

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has to be completely different. We have

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some strange thing happening with

1:10:00

YouTube—a normal number of people were watching

1:10:02

it.

1:10:03

I was told that some kind of

1:10:06

freeze happened. I think that in fact our

1:10:09

our wonderful friends from the Kremlin are

1:10:11

testing some new technologies.

1:10:14

the fight against us may be connected with

1:10:15

the fact that they are artificially inflating the number of

1:10:16

views and waiting for YouTube to

1:10:18

freeze us out; perhaps that was connected to

1:10:20

that freeze-up. 25,000 people are

1:10:23

watching live. I’ll say a couple more

1:10:27

words after all, because I really

1:10:29

liked what was happening with

1:10:30

Maxim Galkin

1:10:31

You probably remember that he and I

1:10:34

had this discussion where he

1:10:37

kept teasing and mocking me in every possible way, and I

1:10:39

was arguing with him there too

1:10:41

because some time ago Maxim Galkin

1:10:45

was talking about how

1:10:48

what a good, professional,

1:10:52

perfectly normal host Vladimir Solovyov is

1:10:55

Let’s recall that video. With all my

1:10:58

respect for the work of Alexei

1:11:00

Navalny

1:11:01

but when he accuses my

1:11:03

television colleague Vladimir

1:11:04

Solovyov over his real estate, I

1:11:07

have a question: why are you accusing him?

1:11:09

He brings colossal ratings to his

1:11:12

channel. His channel, Russia-1,

1:11:14

sells advertising at much higher prices thanks

1:11:17

to Solovyov’s existence on air; it

1:11:19

owes him, regardless of whether

1:11:21

it’s a state channel or not, to pay

1:11:23

him big money, and Solovyov has the right

1:11:26

to use that money to buy real estate. One

1:11:27

year later—and I’m not gloating one bit—I want

1:11:31

to say that Maxim, to his credit, really

1:11:33

did well, because when he

1:11:36

went on one of his tours, he

1:11:38

was in the city of Novosibirsk

1:11:39

and there he was no longer saying that

1:11:42

Vladimir Solovyov is some kind of good

1:11:44

person earning great money there

1:11:45

He says that Vladimir Solovyov and people like him

1:11:47

lie endlessly on air

1:11:50

they talk endlessly about Ukraine

1:11:52

and he said what, unfortunately, he had not

1:11:55

said before: that in Russia there is

1:11:56

censorship. Let’s watch this really

1:11:58

excellent clip, 1 minute 18 seconds

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of a great

1:12:01

honest speech by Maxim Galkin, and

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[music]

1:12:21

help Ukrainians... Right now we have

1:12:25

censorship; not everything can be, not everything can be

1:12:27

said from a television screen, and I

1:12:30

understand them, because, you know, right now while I

1:12:32

can phrase it this way

1:12:34

when did we have it? It’s just

1:12:37

of course, one leader—well done—already 20

1:12:41

years, almost 20 years, yes, he has already been in

1:12:44

power and has already surpassed the previous one there

1:12:46

Naturally, he’s bored with those world

1:12:49

leaders who, naïve people, keep changing

1:12:51

every four years, while here we’ve already managed to

1:12:53

have an entire generation of people be born

1:12:55

grow up, finish school, have children of their own, and all

1:12:59

of it happened under Putin. They don’t even know

1:13:01

that there could be another president. They

1:13:02

don’t see it as a position; the office itself, as

1:13:06

it’s usually called, has become the most boring thing

1:13:10

messenger of darkness... We’re bored, we have problems

1:13:13

Here, you know, pensions have been messed with,

1:13:17

and on other scales he is deliberately conquering

1:13:21

America... I’m very glad that now even Maxim

1:13:26

Galkin seems to think that Vladimir Solovyov is not

1:13:29

bringing the channel money and ratings and so on

1:13:32

but simply keeps spouting endless

1:13:33

nonsense about Ukraine, which all of us are very

1:13:36

tired of, because all of us already have

1:13:37

the feeling as if we live in Ukraine

1:13:39

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine—it’s the most

1:13:41

important thing, apparently, even more important than Berlin

1:13:45

What’s disgusting is that at Maxim

1:13:47

Solovyov—sorry, at Maxim Galkin

1:13:50

after this, who attacked him? Vladimir Solovyov

1:13:53

Vladimir Solovyov, Dmitry Kiselyov, and also

1:13:55

there’s this Artyom Sheinin

1:13:56

he’s somehow the most, out of all of them,

1:13:58

the most [__] guy. Together they

1:14:03

came out, condemned Maxim Galkin, and

1:14:05

said that there is no censorship on television

1:14:08

Well, what can I say? I’m very, very

1:14:12

glad, without any sarcasm, that

1:14:14

Maxim Galkin, if not yet on

1:14:18

television, then at least not yet on his

1:14:20

Instagram, but already when meeting people

1:14:23

is telling them the truth, and these videos of his

1:14:27

have simply stirred everyone up; people really

1:14:29

liked them because people have missed

1:14:31

the word “truth” coming from those

1:14:34

people who usually somehow

1:14:36

smooth over the sharp edges and say that this is not

1:14:40

censorship, just a great way of making

1:14:42

money. I hope that

1:14:45

with Maxim Galkin this will begin and will continue

1:14:48

very well going forward. Thank you

1:14:50

so much to everyone who watched this live stream

1:14:51

See you next Thursday. Bye

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