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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly 8:00 p.m.

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That means we’re back on the air after

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a short break related to

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technical and legal issues. With you is

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me, Alexei Navalny—or “a journalist from

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Rustavi 2” (a Georgian TV channel), as various

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Kremlin media outlets were calling me this week.

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For them now, “journalist” and “Rustavi 2” have become

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terms of abuse. We’ll talk about that some more today.

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Please send this journalist your questions

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on Twitter with the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture,

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and I’ll try to answer them

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in between some of the topics I’ve

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planned for today. Please do write in,

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because after all, I spent ten days

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in relative isolation.

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The radio was playing, I got a few newspapers,

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but still, you probably had a better feel

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for the news agenda this week

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than I did. Nevertheless,

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the main political question right now

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was something I could feel, and you can feel it too.

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If for some reason you haven’t felt it,

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then please feel it now—I’m going to

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help with that. I’m going to convince you.

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The main issue, of course, is the registration

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of candidates, which is happening now not only

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in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but across the entire

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country. There will be elections in 29 regions, and in all 29

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the same thing is happening: United

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Russia understands that it will lose,

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especially in the big cities, so it is simply

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not allowing candidates onto the ballot. And this is

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extremely important. I know many people

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see it this way: no one

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can get through anyway, because the system is built

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in such a way that no one can make it through,

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so why keep butting heads with this

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system? It’s not that important. Let’s

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prepare something else. But, guys, this is

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the key point of political strategy.

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There is

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nothing more important right now than

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demanding the registration of these candidates.

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That is why Konstantin Sonin,

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a professor at the University of Chicago, a very

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cool guy whose Facebook posts I read,

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and whom I recommend to everyone,

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a very sensible person who really

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understands politics, wrote today

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that the Moscow mayor’s office

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would make—he put it diplomatically—

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the Moscow mayor’s office would make

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a historic mistake, a mistake of historic

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proportions, if it does not allow

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these candidates to run. Judging by everything, the Moscow mayor’s office

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and the Kremlin, which is directing all of this,

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are already prepared to do exactly that.

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They do not consider it a historic mistake. But

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you and I will make a mistake of historic

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proportions if we simply

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do nothing to help these candidates, if we do not

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secure registration for at least

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some of them. Why? Because without that,

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we will never have anything. Look,

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how can transformation in a country

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actually happen in principle?

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After all, sooner or later we want to stop

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watching this program on YouTube and

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start enjoying normal news on

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normal television. We want there to be

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normal elections, normal courts, and

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that kind of transformation, in fact,

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can happen in two ways.

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One is some kind of revolution: sailors run through the streets,

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firing rifles, smashing things,

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setting fires—something like that, a kind of

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forceful process of breaking the regime. And I have

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said many times that power

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in Russia will most likely not change as a result of

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elections alone.

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But nevertheless, elections will either be an important

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part of that process—and today they are the main, the

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most important part, without which it cannot happen—or

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else it will be some entirely force-based scenario.

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And probably all of us, as normal people,

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would of course prefer that no one

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run through the streets with rifles, and that

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the authorities begin changing for the better, and

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society begin changing for the better,

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that change happen through pressure from

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society—that society become strong enough that

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the authorities would simply yield gradually,

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yield and gradually change, and

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a system would form in which

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everyone is represented. There are some people

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who support Putin—they sit in

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parliament. And you and I sit in

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parliament too. There is some party against

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corruption, and a party in favor of corruption—

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United Russia will remain, meaning there will be

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some kind of balance, of course. There sit

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the Stalinists,

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and over there sit the libertarians, and one way or

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another a government is formed, and the country

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develops the way normal

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European countries develop, where we see that in

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the European Parliament there is a bit of everything,

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and in any parliament there are

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different kinds of people. That has to happen. But

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it will happen only when we

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manage to get candidates

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registered. That is the single most important thing,

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without which these authorities—

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Putin specifically, yes—will not

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listen to anything at all. These people,

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of course—Putin and Sobyanin—are afraid of

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mass protests in the streets, plain and simple.

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Mass protests in the streets must happen

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because they are refusing to register candidates.

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Because we have everything on our side. We were

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constantly told: well, you people

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are demanding some kind of power for yourselves, but

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there are no candidates with a positive

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agenda, or your support is fairly low

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because, after all, it’s supposedly 84 percent.

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about 'Crimea is ours' and so on, and so on.

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So, right now we find ourselves in a

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situation in which we definitely have

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the most popular candidates.

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It's not even like in the presidential election, when I

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I mean, in the presidential election I

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said: let me run, and I'll take on Putin.

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I'm ready to fight him, but I probably

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couldn't claim that I was, you know,

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more popular than Putin.

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He's the main figure, so let

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us put it this way now:

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our candidates, both in the polls and by

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all appearances,

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however you want to measure it, in Moscow and St. Petersburg

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first and foremost, are the most popular

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candidates. They are beating United Russia candidates,

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and that's exactly why the United Russia people are hiding

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and claiming to be independent self-nominated candidates. We

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have candidates, we have wonderful

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voters, we have a positive agenda, we have

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real grassroots work with people on the ground. They

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worked their guts out collecting

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these signatures, and you and I worked hard too.

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In every program I urged people, and we put out special videos.

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You and I did a good job

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to collect signatures for

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these candidates, and all of Moscow knows that

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these independent candidates were collecting

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signatures, but now they simply want to keep them off

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the ballot. And if they are not allowed on, and Putin

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sees it—Putin, Sobyanin, everyone else—that

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these guys in Moscow

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have the majority, the majority of those who are against

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United Russia have candidates, they

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are ready to win, they have everything, they already have

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financial support,

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signatures, people on the ground, media

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in the form of the internet in Moscow and

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St. Petersburg—that matters. But if people don't even come out

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for them and stand up for them, then what

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chance do we have?

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If we're not ready to defend this

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basic thing, then we won't be able to defend anything else

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together. That's why I

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urge you not just to watch how

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these people are now being denied en masse,

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but to be outraged by it, and then to follow

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what the candidates are calling for and

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come out in their support.

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Authorized, unauthorized—

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who cares. Come out, stand there as long as necessary.

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Do what they ask us to do on social

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media, call on others, simply write that

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you support them.

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Put pressure on this government; it backs down if

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it really sees that, well, this

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frightens it. Of course it will be frightened. It will

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say: if you go out to an unauthorized

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rally, we'll arrest 1,000 people.

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And we need to say: we don't care.

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Make it 2,000 or 3,000. I did 10

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days in jail—so what happened to me? Here I am,

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still with you.

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Nothing changed for me.

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I did 10 days.

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I'd do 30. It's worth serving time for this.

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Arrest 10,000 people—Moscow is still

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much bigger than that. We'll still come out, and

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register them. If you don't register them,

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we'll keep coming out anyway. That's my

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view of it. It is exactly that; there easily

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can be no other view, because I

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also put a lot of personal effort into

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calling on you

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to sign up for independent

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candidates, to come out and sign.

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These candidates busted their backs—sorry for

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the expression—collecting signatures, and now they

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are simply trying to keep all of them off

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the ballot over signatures. Meanwhile, the United Russia people, about whom

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literally no one has heard anything—some

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people just show up, and you hear their last names

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for the first time in your life. Take Zhdanov:

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he was collecting signatures in the Leningrad district,

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he turned the whole district upside down, and

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he turned all of YouTube upside down, calling on you

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to help, while some nobody from

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United Russia who hasn't spent a penny on her campaign

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somehow, on the very first

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day, submits everything to the commission—perfect

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signatures. Obviously they were all fabricated.

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The commission checked everything in, like,

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half an hour—said the signatures were excellent.

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Registered. Meanwhile, that same

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Zhdanov—I saw before going on air that his

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signatures have been under review for two days already, two

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days, by some guys with magnifying glasses, with

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microscopes—supposedly forensic handwriting experts

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from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Show us the footage—maybe

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we have it—show how the review of

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Ivan Zhdanov's signatures is being conducted.

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Could you show one example where, in your opinion,

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a date or signature looks similar?

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Well, please show us. You just said

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there was a similarity. Wait, I'm not

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interrupting you. You just said that somewhere

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the date matches, but you're talking

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among yourselves—can you show me

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right now the signature, the signature

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or the date that, in your opinion, looks

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like another signature? Please show it.

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So that you understand: the verification of collected

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signatures is a procedure at which

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all candidates have the right to be present. That is,

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you hand over your signatures and sit there

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and watch them being checked. And when other candidates

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bring in their signatures, you also have the

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right to sit there and watch how they

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are checked. So, when it comes to checking the signatures

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of United Russia candidates, no one is allowed in at all.

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But when the signatures of all opposition candidates are checked—look,

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you can see some women sitting there whom they

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called

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experts, handwriting specialists, forensic analysts, and they

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have literally been sitting there for two days, more than

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two days checking Zhdanov's signatures,

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more than two days checking signatures.

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when Sobol comes in and says,

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I’d like to see how these two

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so-called independent candidates from United Russia are running here,

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that footballer Bulykin, the one

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we all laughed at,

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it turns out he also collected

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signatures, and actor Sokolov’s signature gatherers,

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whom no one has ever seen, also

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brought in signatures, and those signatures are perfect,

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crisp, spotless under a magnifying glass—they’re just absurd.

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They looked at the whole stack and said,

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well, of course, we can see these are wonderful

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signatures—welcome to the election. But as for

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Sobol, they’ve been checking hers for two days already. The same

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thing is happening with Yashin too; there they’ve already gone

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even further. Yashin was told that 700

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signatures raised suspicions—according to those

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so-called expert graphologists, those ladies,

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while all the others, obviously,

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didn’t collect anything. But you and I know that

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the people who really did collect signatures were probably not

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all those opposition or pseudo-opposition

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candidates are going to like what

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I’m about to say, but we knew perfectly well

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that the only people who actually collected signatures were those

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whose names were all over the internet, who

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ran around everywhere shouting, please give

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your signatures, who set up those campaign cubes (street signature-collection stands), who put in

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the effort. It just doesn’t happen that you have six

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thousand signatures, notarized

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collectors, passport details, everything recorded,

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and it all came from nowhere. We understand

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that that’s impossible. And all these

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people are being registered with completely fake

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signatures, while Yashin was told: 700 of your signatures

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are invalid, and they don’t want to let you

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onto the ballot. Yesterday he did the right thing right away—

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the guy said, fine, I’m holding a meeting with

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voters, and he gathered people right

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in the courtyard by the municipal office. Let’s

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watch. In 33 seconds: they fired 20,000

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doctors, shut down 60 hospitals, closed 400

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outpatient clinics—for what? So they could

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pour money into the so-called

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grandiose beautification projects. Of course,

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it’s much easier to steal on paving tiles than on

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doctors’ salaries. In order to

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increase spending on officials.

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Look, in Moscow there are 125 such district administrations,

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and every district head has their own

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personal car with a driver.

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They told the man, we’re not letting you onto

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the ballot. What did he do? He immediately called on people

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to come. You can’t really see it in this video, but

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quite a lot of people came—about 300

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just to meet with him, just to

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they put a wooden platform on some vehicle,

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he came out and started

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delivering his fiery speeches. Everyone

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together with him demanded: register

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him, register them. All candidates should do

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that. And most importantly, we should

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show up there too. After all, these candidates—this

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depends on us, and we are very interested

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in making sure that these candidates actually

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depend on us. We’re interested

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in having some people

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who have no media, no oligarchs, no

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money, nothing at all—only us. And

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they depend on us, and that’s great. Then they

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will listen, they will

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pay attention to what you write in the comments,

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they will sit down and talk with you

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at office hours, they will solve some of your

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problems, because they will know that

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they depend very heavily on the people

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who take to the streets for them. Let’s

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be those people. And all these

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disqualifications affect not only this

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group of five that we nominated there.

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Unfortunately, there was a technical problem

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with Vladimir Milov:

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he was literally short by 130 signatures. I

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called on you, I called on you, I said

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go, go, go. Milov ran a great

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signature-gathering campaign there—he fell short by 134 signatures.

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Still, four candidates

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managed to run, but City Hall somehow decided

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to wipe out

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absolutely everyone. For example, in Gudkov’s case they declared

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even Vadim Korovin a fake signature collector,

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that is, a local deputy

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went around collecting signatures for Gudkov, and

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now they’re telling him: wait, you’re

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Vadim Korovin, some random guy nobody knows,

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so apparently your signatures are fake. Let’s

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watch 34 seconds. Friends, I’m Dmitry

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Gudkov, and I’m reporting more news that has

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shocked all of us to the core: the graphologists,

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the Interior Ministry experts, declared the well-known

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Vadim Korovin, known to all of us and to you as well—we

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slept on benches, campaigned in Lefortovo Park,

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he helped us, every day he collected

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signatures—so they decided that he

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forged the signatures. It’s just

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completely insane. This is basically

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what is happening to us—utter lawlessness.

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We’re waiting for the verification to be completed

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and we’ll keep you informed.

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Follow the news. I urge you

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not to think of these candidates for deputy as

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just some guys—well, maybe

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some of them are likable, maybe impressive, likable,

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they’re all different, and he ran, or she ran,

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and now go fight for my interests. No—once again, this depends on us.

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No, once again, this function comes from us.

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Either we put them forward now, and then we will have

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representation through them, you understand?

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Right now we have only one

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mechanism. Something happens—I don’t know,

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Golunov was arrested (Ivan Golunov, a Russian investigative journalist),

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or some criminal case gets opened—well,

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when they jailed me, people took to the streets, and

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no one in power supported us. We

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have no representative in government who

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comes out with us somewhere, or who

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climbs onto the podium in the Moscow City Duma or in

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the State Duma, or anywhere else, in any

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in government bodies, even as human rights commissioners

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somewhere—someone who

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gets up at the podium and fights tooth and nail for us,

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tearing his shirt off his back for our sake.

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We need people like that, and if we ourselves

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don’t get them in there, then it means our

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interests aren’t represented there. So of course

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these people are all different—some of them you may find

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more likable, others less so.

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But we have to come out and force them

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to register them. This is very important. This is where

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it will begin,

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or where positive change will fail to begin if

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we can’t do it. Well, that is to say,

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of course, in the historical long run we

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will of course win. But I’ll repeat what I

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started with: this would be a mistake of historic

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proportions, and for the authorities they will undoubtedly

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regret it bitterly later. It

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will backfire on them, one hundred percent. They

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will regret it badly. But for us, too, this

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would be a mistake, let’s say,

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and it would worsen all further possible

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scenarios for change in our country,

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for improvements in our country.

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Today, a special statement was issued by

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the Golos movement in support of all of them, in

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support of these candidates. We need

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to get involved. It’s clear that, well, you go out

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to support, say, journalist Ivan Golunov—a person who

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is being unjustly prosecuted—because you’re

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moved by his fate: drugs were planted on him, and you

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think, damn, how could they plant drugs on him?

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But these candidates—this isn’t as emotionally gripping a topic,

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yet it is more

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important. Because in registration, in your

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right to nominate your own candidate, there

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is everything in it: there is protest against

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planted drugs, there is also

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the demand for a fair trial—I’m not listing

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everything now. All of it is contained in this demand; it is the main thing

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right now across the whole country. I repeat, this

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is happening not only in Moscow, and in fact

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far more outrageous cases

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—more outrageous ones, excuse me—are happening in

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the regions. One such outrageous and at the same time

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comical case involving our people

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is happening in Ufa.

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Well, for Lilia Chanysheva, it is not at all

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comical. She is running for

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the Ufa City Council.

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She’s a great person, a former auditor,

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and she knows economics extremely well. She regularly comes

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to the sessions of the city

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council in Ufa and tears into all those deputies,

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and demolishes them in debate. Naturally, she is very much

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feared by Khabirov, who is currently up for election,

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and by the local authorities in general. They came up with

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the idea that our candidate’s name is Lilia Chanysheva,

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and they thought: right, we’ll use Smart Voting,

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and everyone in Ufa, in her

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district, will get a message saying: guys, vote

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for Chanysheva. So the logical option for

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crooks was what? Let’s register

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a spoiler candidate with the surname Chanysheva. It’s a common

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surname in Bashkiria (Bashkortostan), so they easily found another

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candidate named Chanysheva. So there would be one

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Chanysheva on the ballot, and two Chanyshevas

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on the ballot. Then they thought, probably, no,

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that won’t work, because we’ll be writing: vote

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for Lilia Chanysheva.

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So they found a person with the name

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Lilia Chanysheva and registered two

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spoilers. So it won’t just be three

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Chanyshevas there—it’ll be three Chanyshevas, and two Lilias

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Chanysheva. And at that point we were already thinking,

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well, maybe the campaign slogan

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would have to be: vote for Airatovna,

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because our Chanysheva, our

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Lilia Airatovna—so, vote

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for Airatovna.

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But after thinking it over, these crooks

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and the officials sitting in Ufa did this:

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they simply barred Chanysheva, saying that

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ten of your signatures

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were invalid, so

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the secondary Chanyshevas can run, but you,

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the real Chanysheva, supposedly have problems with

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your signatures. These are the only methods they have

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to defend themselves from us, and this is what we need

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to break. Until we break it, nothing

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will happen. Sorry that I keep repeating the same

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thing, and I’ll go on repeating the same thing, but

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listen—even if they, I see a question here—even if they

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don’t register anyone

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from the independents, even if they

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don’t register a single one of the

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independent candidates, Smart Voting will still

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work. But the candidates will be, let’s say,

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of middling quality, some of them.

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There are some decent ones—the Communists have several

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strong candidates. Zhukovsky is running there,

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in southern Moscow.

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He’s an absolutely excellent candidate, no worse

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than that group of five, and there are several more

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good candidates here. There are districts where

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the candidates will be so-so, and in Smart

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Voting we’ll still vote for them, and it’s entirely

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possible we’ll get them through. And by doing that, we

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will still undermine, together, the monopoly

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of United Russia. So Smart Voting

21:49

becomes even more relevant if they

21:51

don’t let them run. But still, that means we

21:53

will only be able to fight now

21:55

against the monopoly of United Russia, whereas

21:57

we want to fight for our own representatives.

21:59

So until we break this rotten system,

22:01

nothing will work. The same thing

22:03

is happening in Irkutsk. Sergei Bespalov is an excellent

22:06

candidate.

22:06

He ran in the election

22:08

for the Irkutsk City Council. Despite the fact that

22:10

the governor there is a Communist, they still won’t let him run.

22:13

Right now he is appealing; he won in court, but

22:15

even so, there the court said that

22:19

the documents need to be rechecked.

22:20

Whether they register him—that’s the trick. He won the court case,

22:23

but it looks like they still won’t.

22:24

They’ll get registered. This is happening absolutely

22:28

everywhere, absolutely everywhere. And once again, of course,

22:33

what especially infuriates me—really infuriates me—is

22:37

the sheer arrogance and mockery with which

22:39

these United Russia people just, simply, bring in

22:43

a sheet of paper with signatures drawn on it, and

22:46

they’re not even embarrassed. Meanwhile, the candidates

22:48

the legitimate candidates—all of them—had to pay

22:51

signature collectors an average of 300 rubles per signature (about $3–4 at the time).

22:54

It’s simply difficult, and the paperwork is complicated: you have to

22:56

write down each person’s passport details

22:58

and then also go to a notary

23:01

to certify it all. In other words, it’s real

23:02

work. They were paying 300 rubles per signature.

23:05

All the independents did that, while all the United Russia candidates brought in

23:09

their signatures and then, in their financial

23:11

reports, said: you know, they cost us

23:13

almost nothing. In the southeast district,

23:16

that’s where I’m officially registered, only Lyudmila

23:18

Stebenkova—one of the funniest and

23:21

most disgusting deputies—because

23:23

literally

23:24

once worked for the U.S. State Department and worked at the

23:28

National Democratic Institute

23:30

of the U.S. Democratic Party.

23:31

Then she was in the SPS (Union of Right Forces, a liberal Russian party), with such an actively

23:34

democratic, liberal image, and now she’s in the

23:36

most conservative wing of United Russia.

23:38

Naturally, she submitted her report and

23:40

said that for the entire signature-gathering effort

23:42

she spent 97,000 rubles—so, in other words, she

23:47

forged everything.

23:48

A vile United Russia politician, but she’s already

23:50

been registered, everything’s fine for her, while

23:52

independents are being kept out. That’s why we need to

23:55

take to the streets. My new little friend here—I even

23:58

brought you a leaflet about him—

24:01

Andrei Metelsky, the head of United Russia’s whole

24:05

gang of so-called independent candidates. He’s the one

24:08

leading it.

24:09

On the very day of my arrest, I released a video about

24:12

him. I wanted to say a couple of

24:14

words about him too. Do you know how much he spent on

24:16

collecting signatures? You can look at his

24:18

first financial report. The man said

24:21

he collected 6,000 signatures

24:23

for 32,000 rubles. Could that be possible? No, it couldn’t.

24:28

And the guy could have—some, some

24:32

United Russia candidates at least showed that, well,

24:35

that they spent

24:36

something like a million rubles, one and a half million

24:38

rubles—that’s a realistic amount. But this one, we

24:42

released an investigation about him showing that he has

24:44

34 hotels in Austria.

24:51

Everything is registered to some elderly mother of his.

24:54

The guy doesn’t give a damn, doesn’t hide anything, doesn’t bother.

24:57

He’s a billionaire, has spent 18 years in the Duma (Russia’s parliament), and

25:01

discloses nothing. And then an investigation about you

25:03

comes out, and in that investigation they

25:06

go through your entire

25:08

business for 40 minutes. And what do you do in response?

25:11

You say: yeah, I don’t give a damn about you. Not only

25:14

did I draw the signatures, I’ll also show

25:16

that I spent 32,000 on it. In other words,

25:18

the grateful people of Moscow apparently, in

25:21

gratitude for the fact that I stole

25:23

money from them for 18 years, came out for me free of charge

25:25

and signed for me. And this Herr

25:28

Metelsky, this United Russia man, when he’s in Germany

25:31

and arrives at

25:33

a hotel, they say to him: Herr Metelsky,

25:34

this way please, Herr Metelsky, right this way.

25:37

And he will lead them into the Moscow City Duma

25:42

and once again write laws for us

25:44

if we don’t stand our ground. Let’s

25:46

watch a minute of our investigation

25:49

that came out exactly ten

25:52

days ago, on the day of my arrest, and

25:54

just to refresh your memory, and

25:57

then I’ll say a little more

25:58

about it. This is the Maximilian Hotel, 4

26:02

stars, with its own pool and spa area.

26:04

Metelsky paid 5 million euros for it.

26:07

At the same time, at that moment he supposedly had

26:09

absolutely nothing to his name,

26:11

just a deputy’s salary, plus his mother’s

26:13

pension. Here are three more hotels: Metelsky, Mozart—

26:18

this is a traditional Tyrolean hotel.

26:20

At the height of the fifth floor, sticking out of the hotel, there’s

26:23

a strange-looking pipe, and our

26:26

assumption is that

26:27

the other end of that pipe was plugged directly into

26:31

the Moscow city budget

26:32

to make it easier for United Russia

26:35

to suck money out of the country. Though of course, it

26:38

could also just be a water slide.

26:40

Tennis courts, a football field, a swimming pool—

26:43

it’s fun and great here at any time of

26:45

year.

26:46

So, I was corrected during the break. I

26:49

said that Stebenkova, who

26:51

is running from United Russia in the

26:53

southeast, rather brazenly claimed that

26:55

she spent only 97,000 rubles on the entire

26:58

signature-gathering process.

26:59

But I’m being corrected: I miscounted a zero.

27:02

She spent 9,700 rubles. This lady, according to

27:06

her own statement, spent on collecting signatures—on something for which

27:08

everyone else spent one and a half

27:10

million rubles, two million rubles—

27:12

while this United Russia candidate somehow got away with 9,700. How nice.

27:15

Returning to Metelsky,

27:17

let me say right away: in the description of this video

27:19

there’s a link to a leaflet. I hope you

27:22

won’t be lazy and will spend five minutes

27:25

printing it out on your home

27:27

printer, if you live in Moscow first and

27:29

foremost—especially if you live

27:31

somewhere in his districts, in Izmailovo and

27:36

so on. Print it out and simply

27:38

put it up

27:39

in the elevator. I tested this information on

27:42

all my

27:44

supporters who were nearby, and

27:47

since a lot has changed here,

27:48

when you tell people about Metelsky, everyone is,

27:50

to put it mildly, furious. And when I went around

27:56

filming these wonderful hotels of Georgy

28:00

Mal Burum from our investigations department.

28:02

On the one hand,

28:03

Austria—I was in Tyrol, and in general in those

28:06

mountain places for the first time. Of course, it's very

28:09

beautiful. On the one hand, there's this feeling of complete

28:11

peace from the insanely beautiful

28:13

places. On the other hand, let's be honest,

28:18

everything inside you starts boiling because you see

28:21

how a man was taking money out of Russia and

28:25

investing it there for 18 years, and for 18 years didn't

28:29

disclose anything. You'd think, well,

28:33

surely you could put at least something

28:36

in your declaration.

28:37

Mention some company or other. Besides

28:40

this whole Austrian side of things, here there are also

28:41

giant car dealerships, residential

28:44

complexes. This guy is a billionaire, one of

28:47

the biggest businessmen in Moscow. Show

28:49

at least something, for the sake of basic

28:52

decency. Nothing. The man declares

28:57

nothing but a flat salary, and he's the leader

29:00

of United Russia. Again, you'd think,

29:03

look, logically, everyone knows this. If

29:04

we found it, everyone knows, and there should at least be

29:07

some meeting where Sobyanin and Kiriyenko

29:09

say: well, we have to go into

29:11

the elections.

29:11

It's a difficult situation—Moscow doesn't like

29:14

United Russia, so we need to irritate people less,

29:16

put forward some popular

29:18

person at the head of the Moscow

29:20

United Russia branch, someone neutral. But no—this is just

29:23

too much.

29:25

It's simply too much. He has

29:28

major business interests in Austria. We looked

29:30

at border-crossing data: the man spends

29:33

at least 90 days a year there—that is, three

29:37

months a year hanging out in Austria, in his own

29:40

hotels. They all know this. So why not

29:43

replace him, move him aside, let him take

29:45

a less important role? But no, not a chance.

29:48

He still sits in the presidium, and even

29:51

in that very funny video about the number

29:54

of Moscow City Duma deputies voting,

29:57

let me show you again.

29:59

You'll see Metelsky right now, and there,

30:02

where Shaposhnikov is speaking, the little guy

30:04

nodding his head next to him

30:06

is sitting there.

30:06

That's the very same leader of United Russia in

30:09

Moscow—Metelsky. Let's watch him.

30:12

The board lit up during

30:14

the vote: 33 in favor, 3 against. Thus,

30:18

36 people.

30:21

Count the heads—how many

30:22

are actually present? I counted 26.

30:24

And to count them, we have

30:28

a special system in the chamber. I

30:30

trust it completely. Then your system

30:32

is malfunctioning, because

30:34

use your own eyes and count:

30:37

there are 26 people sitting there.

30:41

The existing system fully

30:43

ensures proper operation.

30:45

Well, that guy is sitting there on the left, and

30:49

apparently that's why he decided not to declare

30:53

a damn thing—because this is their

30:55

everyday routine. They tell you there are

30:59

33 people in the chamber when there are 22. The board

31:02

shows it, and if that makes you uncomfortable—well, the board shows

31:05

the correct number. And Metelsky gave us the same

31:08

kind of answer. I had already been sitting here; just now I

31:11

went out and looked at it. He was asked:

31:13

So, dear Mr. Metelsky, how do you explain

31:15

your hotels in

31:18

Austria? And what does the man say? He says:

31:21

This investigation has nothing

31:23

to do with me and cannot have anything to do with me. I file

31:27

a declaration, and it is checked by the relevant

31:29

authorities. As was just said, our

31:31

system works perfectly. There can be no

31:34

questions for me. As for my

31:35

mother and my son, my mother is a fully

31:38

grown

31:38

woman, and my son is 27 years old—he too is already

31:41

an adult.

31:43

My mother is more than grown—she's already a grandmother,

31:47

80 years old, and dear little sonny started acquiring his

31:51

hotels at age 18, and even when he

31:54

was still a minor. I mean, how

31:57

can someone lie so brazenly? But that's what he does—he lies,

31:59

lies to the Moscow City Duma,

32:00

and just as brazenly, without the slightest

32:04

embarrassment. Again, you've been nailed to the wall:

32:07

they showed your hotels, your companies,

32:10

your residential complexes. You ought to say

32:12

something like: yes, I was involved in

32:14

business, you know, then I transferred it to

32:17

a friend—or to my mother—but I am not

32:20

involved in operational management there.

32:22

There's a clear trust agreement in place.

32:25

Shuvalov, for example, lies in roughly that way,

32:27

trying to lie more elegantly. This

32:29

guy just says: this investigation

32:31

has absolutely nothing to do with me

32:32

and cannot have anything to do with me. You're a billionaire, you have

32:36

hotels—no, none of it has anything

32:38

to do with me. He just doesn't give a damn. So, guys,

32:41

take this leaflet and put it up in your

32:45

building entrance. How else will people find out

32:49

about this? Only from you. By the way, this is

32:52

a very effective strategy. One of the

32:55

first websites to be declared

32:57

extremist and blocked altogether by

33:00

order of the Prosecutor General's Office, even before this

33:02

period when Roskomnadzor (Russia's media and internet regulator) started banning

33:04

everything in sight, was our site

33:07

where we made a leaflet about United Russia

33:10

and rising housing and utility rates. It really

33:13

drives them crazy.

33:13

It's exactly this kind of offline campaigning format

33:16

when you make a leaflet and put it up,

33:18

carefully tape it inside the elevator, and your

33:20

neighbor tears it down, and the next day you

33:22

put it up again, he tears it down again, and you

33:24

put it up again—but after three or four

33:26

days, everyone in your building has read this

33:29

leaflet and had their eyes opened about Metelsky.

33:32

Kovalenko, another issue: up until September,

33:34

I think we’ll be putting out these regularly,

33:37

these leaflets, and I’m asking you to distribute them.

33:39

This is very, very important, and

33:44

again, I’ll repeat: keep an eye on the independent

33:47

candidates, what they’re doing, whether they’re calling people to

33:48

go to rallies, urging people to stand there and

33:51

join pickets, because you need this — you

33:55

need it much more than, well, certainly not just one

33:57

much more than — you need this

33:58

just as much, let’s put it this way: you need it no less

34:01

than Yashin (Ilya Yashin) needs to become a deputy, or

34:04

than Sobol (Lyubov Sobol) needs to become a deputy, because

34:06

that itself will simply be a result of

34:08

you: whatever you say is what

34:11

Sobol will do. You need your own deputy.

34:14

For the first time in many, many years, actually,

34:18

in the Moscow City Duma,

34:21

there are no genuinely democratically minded

34:22

deputies — not since 2005, I think. Yes.

34:28

Because in 2010, some people got through,

34:31

but they all joined United Russia,

34:32

and there were A Just Russia members too, and Mitrokhin (Sergei Mitrokhin) for a while,

34:35

for some time, but anyone truly

34:36

independent as a deputy — there had never really been anyone like that there.

34:39

Not since the days of the Mossovet (the Moscow Soviet/city council) has there really been

34:41

someone completely independent. There were some people there,

34:43

pretty decent, good guys,

34:45

who were ready, for example, to conduct

34:47

investigations against the Moscow mayor’s office — people like that

34:49

have never been there. You need them to be there.

34:50

So come out and

34:53

support them. I see questions coming in to me.

34:57

Volny Lady Citizen asks:

34:59

I have a question. In most regions, will the elections to

35:02

regional parliaments in most regions

35:03

be held under

35:05

a mixed system, or entirely

35:07

proportional representation? In that case, which party

35:09

will you be backing?

35:11

Excellent question. Let me explain. A proportional

35:16

system is when, on your ballot, there is a party.

35:18

There can be two options: either it will

35:21

list the name of a party — that’s

35:22

the proportional system — or it will

35:25

list surnames, and that’s the majoritarian

35:27

system. Or it will have both, which means

35:29

it’s a mixed system: 15 deputies

35:32

are elected from party lists, and 25 deputies

35:35

are elected by individual names. What do we do in

35:37

that system? Where it says “party,” well,

35:40

obviously, vote for any party against United Russia.

35:43

Most likely, you should vote for those

35:46

who are certain to get in. There’s no point

35:49

in voting for a small party that definitely

35:51

won’t clear the 5 percent threshold.

35:53

It’s clear that all the systemic parties

35:56

are corrupt, disgusting, and controlled.

35:58

That’s obvious. But right now, the issue is

36:00

breaking United Russia’s monopoly.

36:02

So if your ballot lists parties,

36:05

vote for one that can get in — but

36:09

not United Russia. But if there are any

36:11

more or less likable deputies

36:12

anywhere — among the Communists,

36:15

A Just Russia, or the LDPR in the regions —

36:18

there are some protest-minded people there, there are.

36:20

They

36:20

are mostly sellouts, but there are some quite genuinely

36:22

oppositional ones. Vote for any

36:24

non-United Russia option. Where individual names are listed,

36:27

that’s where the main trick is, because United

36:30

Russia understands that in proportional

36:32

voting, where parties are listed, it

36:35

won’t get a majority now, except

36:37

through falsification. But where it lists

36:39

names,

36:40

it wants to fool everyone, because

36:43

instead of “United Russia member,” it now says

36:45

“independent candidate,” and there are lots and lots of different people,

36:47

and then there’s a Yabloko member, and a Patriots of Russia guy,

36:50

and someone else unclear — in other words, you

36:53

get confused. Each candidate will get something like

36:55

5–7 percent, up to 15 percent;

36:58

someone will get 20 percent, and the United Russia candidate

37:00

will simply get 23,

37:02

because the employees of municipal services will vote

37:04

for him as a bloc, and that’s it — he

37:06

wins with only 23

37:08

percent. In that sense, Smart Voting

37:11

will work, because wherever you

37:13

live, you enter into the system: “I live at

37:18

such-and-such address,” and the system will tell you,

37:21

“Vote for Ivan Ivanovich Petrov there,”

37:24

because we’ll look at everything, calculate it all,

37:26

and see that Ivan Ivanovich Petrov

37:28

has the best chance of winning, even if

37:31

Ivan Ivanovich Petrov is not an excellent

37:33

candidate, and he isn’t someone

37:35

ideologically close to us, and you may even

37:37

find that Ivan Ivanovich Petrov has said some

37:39

terrible things or stupid things — still,

37:42

we will vote for him in order

37:44

to make things worse for United Russia, in order

37:46

to force United Russia members to negotiate with

37:48

someone — even with

37:50

the Communists — to break their monopoly.

37:52

Because right now they have a majority

37:54

everywhere — not just a relative one, but an absolute

37:57

majority, more than 75

38:00

percent.

38:01

Everywhere, well, except maybe the Moscow City Duma and Irkutsk,

38:04

for example. Yes, in all the other districts,

38:06

cities, and regions — everywhere. This is what we

38:10

have to break. Therefore,

38:12

in the proportional system, vote for any party

38:14

against United Russia; where there are only names,

38:17

use Smart Voting. Without Smart Voting,

38:19

you won’t figure it out, because the authorities

38:22

will confuse you anyway. Please tell me,

38:25

is it possible to vote from

38:27

England at all? I’m registered in

38:30

Moscow Oblast.

38:30

Diana Grepp asks me. Diana,

38:33

as far as I remember, there are currently no elections

38:35

in Moscow Oblast. That is, on

38:39

September 8, in Moscow Oblast

38:40

there won’t be region-wide elections, but

38:42

Anyway, register and wait.

38:45

If there is an election there, then closer to

38:48

the date.

38:49

you’ll go into that system and enter:

38:51

I live in the Moscow Region

38:53

in, say, Podolsk, on such-and-such street, and the

38:55

system will tell you either that in your region

38:57

there are no elections, or, if there are—when it comes to

38:59

the State Duma election—the system will tell you

39:01

to vote for a particular person.

39:03

As for voting from England, I think

39:05

that unfortunately, voting from England will be

39:08

difficult in regional

39:10

elections.

39:10

Come to Podolsk, where you live,

39:13

for a day and cast your vote.

39:14

Kolka the Terminator says to make a

39:17

leaflet about Probe.

39:18

Fine, we’ll make a leaflet about the fugitive.

39:21

My dear Kolka the Terminator, and

39:23

most importantly, distribute it, because, well,

39:28

what’s happening in Moscow is all very outrageous

39:32

and brazen, people need to come out, but in St. Petersburg

39:35

the whole story there, I want to say, is

39:38

simply called the St. Petersburg trash show.

39:40

Because there really is a trash show there.

39:44

In Moscow, all this is done by crooks—these

39:48

lying,

39:49

disgusting, vile people. It’s the presidential administration,

39:52

Sobyanin (Moscow mayor), they have this whole

39:55

[music]

39:56

there’s a woman in charge there now,

39:58

a deputy prime minister—God, I forgot her surname.

40:02

If I remember, I’ll say it—a deputy prime minister for all sorts of

40:05

political—deputy mayor for political

40:07

issues, and they’re the ones tormenting everyone and thinking up

40:10

what else to invent. But in St. Petersburg, this is done simply by

40:13

bandits, and they do it so

40:15

brazenly and so outrageously that it really is

40:18

a St. Petersburg trash show there.

40:22

It’s just

40:23

well, attacks are happening. For the second time already, while I was

40:26

in jail, they attacked the head of our headquarters,

40:28

Alexandr Shurshyev. And this continues—this

40:31

trash with artificial queues.

40:33

Everyone is already outraged; even on federal

40:36

TV channels they said how outrageous it is.

40:41

The Central Election Commission came and said, oh, don’t

40:44

do that—but they don’t care about any of it. Over there,

40:46

in some place called Chernaya Rechka, people are still standing

40:49

there, and

40:51

they’re creating an artificial queue.

40:53

They are still removing candidates simply

40:58

by inventing some reasons to disqualify them.

41:01

Let’s look at that same Chernaya Rechka

41:02

for 42 seconds.

41:04

Here, item 12: the decision of the political party’s

41:07

governing body, congress, or public

41:08

association—you received four copies, and

41:11

there is your secretary’s signature, and then comes

41:15

your own signature there.

41:16

So that means I submitted it to you.

41:20

And now you are notifying me, supposedly, that

41:24

this decision is needed because we

41:26

are obliged to examine you. How can it

41:28

be missing if your secretary and you

41:31

yourself signed that you

41:33

accepted it—the documents that were received

41:35

by the commission?

41:36

Received... which... here, received...

41:39

which, look, was received... well, I’m not going to

41:43

right now.

41:44

Let’s consider it this way: documents other than those

41:46

that are in the election

41:48

commission.

41:50

You have to admit, it’s a pretty idiotic dialogue.

41:53

Yes, he says, well, it says right there

41:55

“received,” but I’m not going to consider

41:57

anything except what is there—it’s completely unclear what

41:59

this is even about. These are Yabloko (a liberal Russian political party)

42:02

candidates—they were nominated by

42:05

their party and brought the party’s decision

42:08

stating that they had been nominated, and the guys signed that

42:11

they had received the decision saying you were nominated.

42:14

Then they say, you know, we’re not

42:16

letting you into the election because we don’t have

42:18

your party’s decision. Of course, this

42:20

makes you think: are they insane or what? It says right here

42:22

in your own handwriting that you received

42:25

it. And this gentleman replies: you know, in our

42:28

commissions, we don’t have it. But it says right here that

42:30

you received it. No, I will consider

42:32

only what is in our commission.

42:36

Again, it’s hard to imagine because

42:38

the idiocy is such that you literally

42:40

have to prove that you’re not a camel (a Russian expression meaning you must disprove an absurd accusation).

42:43

You’re given a certificate saying you’re not a camel, and you

42:46

say: but look, you gave me a certificate

42:48

saying I’m not a camel. And they tell you: no,

42:50

you still have to prove it anyway. It’s some kind of

42:53

super-

42:54

mega-absurdity, what’s happening there. They are

42:58

banning absolutely everything in the municipal

43:00

districts. In district No. 75, Balkansky, they removed the entire

43:03

Party of Growth slate. Fine, you might say, maybe some of

43:05

our candidates there are the most

43:08

opposition-minded, truly independent,

43:10

Yabloko people—but they removed the Party of Growth too,

43:13

in its entirety, including sitting deputies and

43:16

the head. They’re simply not letting anyone into the election.

43:19

And do you know what they said was the reason they couldn’t

43:22

register them? There were two amazing decisions there.

43:24

The district

43:27

commission in Balkansky informed

43:30

the bewildered candidate that they had lost

43:33

the keys to the safe.

43:35

Like, guys, you know, you submitted

43:38

your documents, but we can’t

43:39

let you in because we seem to have lost

43:42

the key to the safe.

43:43

Ha-ha, very funny joke. And people understand

43:47

what’s going on, so they go out into the

43:51

street, look at all this, file complaints left and right,

43:53

but nobody gives a damn, nothing happens.

43:56

In district No. 75, they lost the signature sheets of six

44:00

candidates. You brought in your signature sheets,

44:02

you say, register me, and then later

44:04

you come back and they say: here, your registration is denied.

44:06

Why the hell are your signature sheets gone?

44:10

There’s not even any clear way to fight this.

44:13

I mean, sure, you can file a complaint, but...

44:16

it’s just pointless. Go ahead, file a complaint—

44:18

and they’ll say, well, you know, we lost

44:21

them. And who are you going to punish? The commission

44:23

is a collective body—you can’t jail anyone, you can’t hold anyone

44:26

personally accountable.

44:27

The commission has the power to do whatever it wants

44:29

completely.

44:30

[music]

44:33

Absolutely. It’s just total lawlessness.

44:37

Naturally, candidates go around with

44:40

voice recorders to document things,

44:42

or they try to conduct video

44:44

recording. Do you know what commissions in

44:46

St. Petersburg

44:47

do? They install special equipment—

44:50

special jammers, the kind

44:52

used in prisons or other secure

44:55

facilities—so that it becomes impossible

44:58

to make

44:59

an audio recording. These are special devices

45:02

that interfere with audio recording, because

45:06

apparently that matters so much to the commission. And there are

45:08

pickets happening there already, in fact.

45:11

Even Beglov has already spoken out, saying

45:14

that, you know, there’s some kind of outrage going on in our

45:17

municipal elections. But we

45:18

all understand that Beglov is the one behind it all,

45:22

that all of this is being done by him,

45:26

by his team. Why? Because

45:28

United Russia will lose in all

45:30

municipal districts, because Smart Voting

45:32

will allow independent candidates

45:34

to win. They don’t want people in office

45:36

who will dig into public procurement,

45:39

who will ask questions, who will replace,

45:42

among other things, these very election commissions.

45:44

Because if they get elected now, then later these

45:46

election commissions will be disbanded, and all these

45:47

people who lose the key to the safe,

45:50

lose signature sheets, and then nothing will come of it—

45:52

simply because in St. Petersburg, that way,

45:55

through the Central Election Commission and through free, fair elections,

45:58

people could actually get through. That’s very dangerous for them, so they

46:00

are removing candidates. So: vote for anyone except Beglov.

46:04

And by the way, let’s listen to this

46:06

wonderful man who said

46:07

that disgraceful things are happening in St. Petersburg.

46:09

Dear residents of St. Petersburg, I want

46:12

to express my position regarding the local

46:15

self-government elections. Everything that is happening today

46:17

is doing great damage

46:19

to our city’s reputation, and dirty

46:24

elections are something nobody needs. The whole country

46:26

is watching on television and the internet, and

46:30

in one of the best cities in our country

46:32

such outrages are taking place.

46:34

The election commissions of municipal

46:37

entities are practically subordinate

46:39

to no one—not the Central Election Commission,

46:41

not the city election commission, not any other

46:43

structures. I am convinced that it is necessary

46:46

to reform the system, otherwise

46:50

the very same

46:51

outrages will continue. You know, this is one of those videos where

46:55

you wonder: who exactly do you turn to

46:57

when you want, for example, to break up a rally and then

46:59

arrest 300 or 500 people with absolutely no

47:01

problem? Beglov can do that. But election

47:03

commissions—just imagine—are accountable

47:05

to no one. Don’t make these

47:08

little videos on your mobile phone,

47:10

you know, these viral ones. If you’re the acting governor,

47:13

hold a meeting: here

47:17

sits the police chief, here sits

47:20

the head of the FSB (Russia’s security service), here are all the other

47:22

security officials,

47:24

bring in the legal department, call in judges, and say:

47:27

this is illegal, this is nonsense, when a

47:30

commission

47:30

says it lost the safe or

47:33

lost the signature sheets.

47:35

Then you say: right, chief of the Interior Ministry directorate,

47:37

open a criminal case, because

47:40

they lost documents subject to strict

47:41

accountability, or damaged them, or are not allowing

47:44

someone into the commission—that’s a criminal offense,

47:46

obstruction of elections. Open

47:48

a criminal case. And you, comrades from the FSB,

47:51

if these election commissions are so bold,

47:53

send in masked special forces

47:56

to break down the door and

47:57

and you, legal department, please

47:59

set out the position and properly formalize all this legally,

48:02

so that we can shut down

48:04

these commissions. Do it. But they don’t,

48:06

because, of course, Beglov needs

48:09

to say something, since all of St. Petersburg

48:11

is now, excuse my language, freaking out

48:14

at the sheer brazenness of what’s happening.

48:16

But he pretends that he isn’t

48:18

in control of it. But if you’re not in control,

48:20

while also being a member of the Supreme Council

48:23

of United Russia, a friend of Putin, a former

48:26

presidential envoy, and the city’s mayor—then what the hell

48:29

are you doing as governor of the city?

48:31

Then it turns out you can’t do anything

48:33

at all.

48:34

With election commissions where your own

48:38

United Russia party members are sitting, then all the more reason

48:40

not to vote for you.

48:42

And nobody wants to vote for him. And there’s a

48:48

wonderful lineup of candidates now.

48:50

Yes, it’s already clear who will

48:52

take part in the election in St. Petersburg.

48:55

There’s Beglov, who made his arrangements and kept

49:00

out of the race—not the LDPR candidate, not

49:03

Oksana Dmitrieva. Somehow they

49:04

unfortunately settled things with them there, which

49:06

is very sad and regrettable. They won’t be running.

49:09

A Communist Party deputy will run there,

49:12

and Tikhonova from A Just Russia will run there,

49:14

the niece of Sergei Mironov.

49:17

A former Yabloko member will also run—just this kind of political trash—and

49:19

it’s very interesting that they recently

49:23

took part in the first debates.

49:25

at their Moscow election debates

49:26

Naturally, Beglov didn't show up. There were

49:28

three candidates, but all of them unanimously said

49:31

that, of course, they were taking part in the election

49:33

thanks to the municipal

49:35

resource. Let's listen to 49 seconds of how

49:38

you got through the municipal filter. It was

49:41

impossible to do without the consent of

49:43

United Russia, so as expected I

49:47

received signatures from United Russia deputies

49:50

Russia. All the deputies from A Just Russia

49:52

naturally gave their votes to the party

49:55

A Just Russia — they give their own votes to them.

49:57

I understand that you can't dance a tango alone

50:01

— it's impossible. It was the ideal option: one and

50:04

that's it. There simply has to be someone.

50:05

I'll wait until they decide in the Kremlin.

50:08

So they used their heads and decided that the people sitting here

50:10

were the least dangerous option for

50:13

becoming the safest of the

50:16

the safest ones to allow in now.

50:18

They decided to let in Amosov, Bortko, and Tikhonova.

50:21

Fine, but do you also admit that

50:24

you made a deal with Smolny (the St. Petersburg city administration)?

50:25

What do you mean, "made a deal"? I knocked on the

50:28

door, and they opened it for me.

50:30

Here one could say, well, Alexei considers

50:33

that you also took signatures from

50:35

United Russia. Of course I did — I demanded

50:37

registration, and under your pressure the mayor's office

50:41

let me into the election and handed over those very

50:43

United Russia signatures. But excuse me,

50:45

I am not part of the systemic opposition — I am a non-systemic

50:47

opposition figure, while these are all representatives

50:49

of systemic parties that take part

50:52

in elections where, after all, there are

50:54

municipal deputies who first

50:58

play along in some way with United

51:00

Russia, and then when there aren't enough signatures, I am not

51:02

supposed to take them from United Russia.

51:03

It's rather sad.

51:04

Nevertheless, when it comes to these candidates, you

51:07

see, because of all this — just choose

51:10

whichever one you like: Bortko,

51:14

the one from A Just Russia — I still haven't remembered

51:16

her surname — what's her name?

51:18

Sorry, sorry — her name is Siham...

51:21

Amosov — anyone but Beglov, it doesn't

51:27

matter who. But it's impossible to tolerate a situation in which

51:32

the symbol of this election

51:35

campaign, do you know what it is? A number —

51:38

or rather, a date: the 96th month. Please show

51:41

this picture here.

51:42

This is a signature — or rather, this is the date that

51:45

the voter wrote

51:46

and which the commission in St. Petersburg declared

51:49

invalid on the grounds that

51:51

— you see what's written there. Anyone reading it

51:53

can make out 26.06.2019, but the commission says,

51:58

well, you know, it says here

51:59

the 26th day of the 96th month. And then

52:05

people tell them, guys, how can that be? You

52:07

can see that the person wrote a zero like that — it's

52:09

handwriting, it's almost obvious that it's the 6th month, but

52:12

no, they insist it's the 96th month. The person was not

52:15

allowed onto the ballot on the basis of this

52:17

nonsense. Can you respect a government that

52:21

engages in this kind of crap? No. So vote for

52:23

anyone but Beglov.

52:26

Naturally, we'll be making leaflets, and not

52:29

just leaflets — you need to distribute

52:30

them. Still, there is good news in St. Petersburg:

52:32

right now we are actively nominating a total of

52:36

541 candidates, and we will

52:40

of course support many others as well, not

52:42

just those who are going through our system

52:44

and getting registered. As of today,

52:46

we have

52:47

managed to register 115 people

52:50

and 52 people have been denied.

52:53

We will continue fighting for

52:55

every single one of them.

52:56

But even so, there are candidates.

52:59

There are many candidates, and they need your votes.

53:02

So, St. Petersburg...

53:05

Smart Voting in

53:07

St. Petersburg: as for the governor,

53:08

it's simple — anyone but Beglov. As for

53:11

the candidates, you definitely won't figure it out on your own,

53:15

I'm telling you: there are multi-member districts there, huge

53:18

lists of names, and you won't understand a damn thing.

53:20

You won't be able to work out for yourself who to vote for.

53:23

Only Smart Voting — sign up yourselves

53:26

and tell everyone else. Novosibirsk:

53:30

a lot of people are watching from Novosibirsk, and I

53:31

still have to say a few words about it.

53:33

Our wonderful colleague Sergey Boyko

53:35

is running for mayor of the city. He has only

53:38

5 days left to collect signatures. Things are

53:41

going well for him, knock on wood — he's collecting signatures

53:45

and will clearly get enough, but he definitely

53:47

won't refuse your help.

53:50

So please go now to the campaign office on

53:53

Krasny Prospekt, at the corner of Rudnaya

53:56

— on Krasny Prospekt,

53:58

Oktyabrskaya, 45A.

54:00

There is

54:04

a campaign office there. You can come by, or you can

54:07

sign for Boyko. He would make a fantastic

54:11

mayor of Novosibirsk.

54:12

Boyko will run an active election

54:14

campaign, he won't be afraid of anyone, and he

54:16

will give a proper thrashing to the joint

54:21

candidate of United Russia and the Communists,

54:24

Lokot. So support Boyko, go to

54:26

him, and leave your signature.

54:29

There are a lot of questions. First, an important one:

54:33

I see Oksana Mandariny asking:

54:35

"For some reason I haven't seen a single comment

54:36

from United Russia. Why isn't United Russia nominating

54:39

a single candidate in these elections?" Well,

54:40

in fact, Metelsky himself gave

54:42

comments. He said, well, you know, we

54:44

are so cool that we even decided not

54:46

to run under the United Russia banner, and instead this

54:48

time to run as self-nominated candidates so as not

54:50

to use, as they literally put it,

54:52

"we don't want to use party"

54:55

advantage

54:56

a funny explanation, but it's real

54:58

explanation

55:01

which is United Russia, not Mickey

55:04

People ask me, tell us what you think about

55:05

Georgia. I have to say that I

55:09

think about Georgia and this

55:12

incident with the journalists on Rustavi 2. I

55:14

was thinking whether to include that video here, but you

55:17

have probably already seen it. I can't

55:20

show it uncensored, and it's rather

55:23

stupid to show it just with bleeps

55:25

because it would basically be one long bleep, I

55:27

don't know, I'll just play it here

55:29

muted, and I'll say a few words myself about

55:31

what I think. But first of all, obviously, I

55:35

have just gotten out of detention, and there

55:39

in the cell, where people are prone to

55:43

that kind of thing, all that talk about mothers and

55:48

what you did to someone's mother and all the rest

55:50

— if you start saying all that there,

55:53

well, let's just say you'll surprise all the other

55:57

detainees.

55:57

In fact, what the

55:59

Rustavi 2 journalist did is a typical case of this:

56:03

a drug addict is sitting there, feeling awful, suffering, he

56:07

needs phenazepam, or better yet some Lyrica,

56:10

he wants to be let out, he's losing

56:12

his mind, and he starts banging on the door. Well,

56:15

naturally, the guard comes over

56:17

and says, dude, what are you doing, you're under

56:19

arrest, and he basically starts shouting this

56:22

through the door

56:24

at whatever cop is there. What I want

56:28

to say about this journalist is that I do not

56:30

doubt that some secret order has already

56:32

been awarded to him by the Kremlin, because this was such

56:36

a tremendous gift for Putin in

56:38

this situation. Putin and the Kremlin

56:41

looked like idiots, they looked like foolish

56:43

people, because they introduced some kind of

56:45

sanctions against Georgia. In reality, those were

56:49

sanctions against Russian citizens,

56:51

because 155,000 people had to

56:54

return their tickets, the airlines lost money,

56:57

the airlines were reimbursed 3 billion rubles,

56:59

which you and I paid for, and everyone

57:01

said, well, Putin is an idiot, what is he doing,

57:05

Georgia isn't fighting against us, and then this secret

57:09

agent of Putin, a Rustavi journalist,

57:10

comes out and says such things that, well, he

57:14

gave Putin a little ladder,

57:15

gave him a ladder to climb up the mountain

57:18

of moral superiority. And it was like,

57:21

yesterday they were doing stupid things, but when

57:23

some guy suddenly, out of nowhere, on

57:26

television, instead of making some kind of

57:29

reasonable complaints, just starts

57:31

with all this 'I did this to your mother' in some kind of

57:33

really bizarre parody of

57:36

criminal slang, then of course he immediately

57:38

climbs that mountain of moral

57:40

superiority and gives an opportunity

57:42

to some utterly vile deputies

57:44

like Slutsky, those maniacs,

57:47

well, maybe not maniacs — crooks would be more accurate,

57:50

to go around saying, well, how can this be, now

57:52

we need to impose sanctions against them, let's

57:54

look at Slutsky.

57:54

Yesterday, on the air of a Georgian TV channel,

57:57

Rustavi 2, host Giorgi Gabunia, in the most foolish

58:00

way, using obscene

58:02

language, insulted

58:03

the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir

58:05

Vladimirovich Putin. This is unacceptable and

58:08

impermissible not only for countries

58:13

of the post-Soviet space, but for any

58:15

country today. It is necessary to adopt

58:21

tougher additional

58:24

harsh measures. The State Duma Committee on International Affairs

58:28

supports continuing — there can no longer be

58:30

any doubt — together with the leadership of the United Russia faction

58:32

state measures to restrict supplies

58:36

of products, in particular mineral

58:40

water and some other items coming

58:43

from Georgia. It is not excluded that

58:46

the authorities may also consider

58:48

additional measures beyond those

58:50

I have mentioned. You see, just yesterday

58:54

they were the foolish Putin people who imposed

58:56

sanctions against Russian citizens but called

58:58

them sanctions against Georgia,

59:00

a ban on flights, and Slutsky was

59:02

some deputy who harasses

59:04

female journalists and failed to declare his penthouse

59:07

in his asset declaration. And now, once again, he has been

59:09

given a little ladder,

59:10

they climbed up the hill of moral

59:12

superiority and say, well yes,

59:14

a journalist insulted our president, well,

59:17

he really did insult him, and in such

59:19

terms that no one has any right to use, well,

59:21

in expressions like that, yes, and that is

59:24

of course an astonishing

59:27

gift to Putin, and he is excellent

59:31

at working with things like this. I keep

59:33

saying it on my program all the time,

59:35

and attentive viewers remember perfectly well that

59:37

our authorities absolutely love taking offense.

59:40

They look for the moment when you say something

59:44

and then claim you've insulted the memory of soldiers, or

59:49

insulted pensioners, or offended someone,

59:52

or mentioned somebody's mother — and immediately they

59:54

take offense, puff up their cheeks, and

59:58

then out comes noble Putin.

1:00:00

Naturally, Putin immediately took this as a signal and

1:00:02

came out and said, well yes, these things happen, but we

1:00:05

have respect for the Georgian people, we are not against the Georgian people.

1:00:07

Respect for the Georgian people.

1:00:10

Of course, no sanctions will be introduced.

1:00:12

39 seconds of noble Putin.

1:00:14

As for various kinds

1:00:17

of sanctions with regard to Georgia, I would not

1:00:19

do that, precisely out of respect

1:00:22

for the Georgian people, because one person

1:00:24

came out and started making a spectacle of himself, pretending to be

1:00:28

something he is not.

1:00:31

Before this, nobody knew anything about him; now

1:00:32

Everyone is talking about it; in that sense, he achieved his goal.

1:00:34

He got what he wanted. Novy was suspended for two

1:00:36

months. He went on vacation and will return at some point

1:00:38

to continue working. But there are people

1:00:40

who are Georgians.

1:00:42

To protest against this—for the sake of these

1:00:45

people, for the restoration of full-fledged

1:00:47

relations between Russia and Georgia—I would not

1:00:49

do anything rash.

1:00:50

There is no need to do anything. Australia—

1:00:52

terrible or ours—you see how, once again,

1:00:56

there is this immediate sense of moral

1:00:58

superiority: suddenly, who is the most

1:00:59

humane person here? How should we relate to this

1:01:01

and what should we do about it?

1:01:02

We should do nothing. There is nothing we need to do.

1:01:04

We simply need to remember that not all Georgians, and

1:01:07

the Georgian state, are responsible for

1:01:09

what one Georgian journalist said. Forget him.

1:01:11

Whether he played along with Putin and will get from him

1:01:13

a secret reward or a public one—well, he was foolish.

1:01:17

To hell with all of them. We should, on the whole,

1:01:19

look at this situation as a whole and forget

1:01:23

about this unfortunate Georgian

1:01:25

journalist, and remember the main thing: that

1:01:27

by introducing

1:01:29

sanctions, these strange restrictions,

1:01:31

the ban on flights, Putin struck a blow at

1:01:33

the citizens of Russia. That is the only thing we

1:01:35

must remember about this situation, because

1:01:37

you and I paid 3 billion

1:01:40

in compensation to the airlines because

1:01:43

Putin decided to take revenge this way

1:01:44

on the Georgian parliament. That is

1:01:47

the important fact. And as for the Georgian journalist—

1:01:49

forget him, ignore him. Soldatik

1:01:54

Planerny writes to us, writes to me: we need

1:01:57

leaflets for all districts saying that in

1:01:59

our district some completely crazy Volovets might

1:02:01

win. We will make leaflets, I think.

1:02:03

We will make leaflets for all districts, although I

1:02:05

hope the candidates themselves will also have

1:02:09

such leaflets, and that it will not be just me and

1:02:11

Bukovina. We will campaign together

1:02:13

for all the candidates; I will do that too. But,

1:02:15

dear Soldatik Planerny, Smart

1:02:17

Voting is more important here than leaflets, yes. But

1:02:20

urging people to

1:02:24

vote according to the Smart Voting recommendations

1:02:26

is more important. You can distribute

1:02:27

such a leaflet, and everyone will know that

1:02:29

Metelsky—or whoever it is you mention—

1:02:31

or some crazy Volovets in your district

1:02:33

might win. Volovets and Metelsky

1:02:35

are bad—but who is the good one to vote for? There

1:02:37

will be seven names on the ballot, and those seven names

1:02:40

will split the vote, and that way Volovets

1:02:43

will win. People need to be given the name of the person

1:02:45

they should vote for. That is the most important thing.

1:02:47

Igor Ivanovich Sechin, our favorite, well,

1:02:52

continues to astonish us—and in a serious

1:02:55

way—because this

1:02:58

man, one of the people closest to Putin, and

1:03:02

it was assumed that he was such a cunning

1:03:06

crook.

1:03:07

But clearly he has already lost his mind

1:03:10

from money, impunity, and simply—well,

1:03:15

from money, exactly that: he has become bloated with wealth, he has more money

1:03:19

than he knows what to do with.

1:03:20

This is Sechin himself: this man bought

1:03:24

his young wife a yacht for $200

1:03:28

million, *Princess Olga*. I talked about it here.

1:03:31

His wife has already left

1:03:33

Sechin; he renamed it, threw out

1:03:35

the word “Olga” from the yacht’s name. And now

1:03:38

it has emerged that outside Moscow, in the Moscow region,

1:03:40

he has an estate with a total area of 25,000

1:03:45

square meters. The outlet Baza reported this.

1:03:47

Let’s take a look for a minute

1:03:51

at Sechin’s remarkable properties.

1:04:55

That was a silent video.

1:04:58

Baza, it seems to me, should indeed be watched

1:05:00

without sound—or perhaps even in

1:05:02

complete silence—just to stand and mourn the money that you and I

1:05:05

collectively had, which Igor

1:05:08

Ivanovich Sechin stole. Because it is frightening even

1:05:09

to think what fantastical sums

1:05:12

this man has stolen, if he buys yachts

1:05:15

for hundreds of millions of dollars, if

1:05:18

he builds homes for himself costing tens of millions

1:05:20

of rubles, if he builds between his houses

1:05:23

an underground tunnel in which

1:05:26

two cars should be able to pass each other—or perhaps

1:05:30

he plans to have some sort of carriages there

1:05:32

drawn

1:05:33

by a team of six trotters. And this same

1:05:36

man is capable of anything; he has truly

1:05:39

gone mad over his wealth. And

1:05:41

this is the head of a state

1:05:44

corporation, the largest Russian

1:05:46

state oil company, supposedly standing guard over

1:05:49

the interests of the state. I simply do not

1:05:52

know—somehow it feels as if

1:05:54

there is a money vault there and money is being hauled out of it by the truckload

1:05:58

for personal use. I do not know what exactly is going on there,

1:06:00

but the level of corruption of this man is simply

1:06:04

of course absolutely

1:06:06

off the charts.

1:06:07

Now that is someone about whom leaflets

1:06:08

really should be made—and we will make leaflets

1:06:11

about Igor Ivanovich. Because, well,

1:06:13

Baza released this investigation, and I do not

1:06:15

know how much attention it received. I

1:06:18

was then on Echo of Moscow (a former Russian radio station) and heard it being

1:06:20

reported there, but it seems to me to be an underrated

1:06:22

fact, an underrated story. It is worth making sure

1:06:25

that, say, 20 million citizens of Russia

1:06:29

know how our

1:06:32

state business bosses live. And

1:06:35

it seems to me very important to compare these two

1:06:38

cases side by side, by contrast.

1:06:39

After all, he is not just some hellish scarecrow

1:06:44

who came from nowhere and

1:06:47

drove Rosneft into colossal debt, and

1:06:50

that is not my insinuation,

1:06:53

investors have acknowledged many times that

1:06:57

the inept management of Rosneft

1:06:59

leads to enormous losses.

1:07:01

com, and at the same time he is stealing

1:07:04

enormous sums of money. Before our eyes, there is unfolding

1:07:07

the story of entrepreneur Sergei

1:07:09

Petrov, who in some sense

1:07:12

is the complete opposite of Sechin, because

1:07:14

Petrov is the kind of person who

1:07:16

is not some former Komsomol member (Soviet Communist youth organization) or

1:07:21

oligarch or, I don't know, some kind of party functionary

1:07:25

or security-state man; no, he's military,

1:07:27

a former military pilot from the middle of nowhere, from

1:07:31

the provinces, from Orenburg. At one point he started

1:07:34

selling cars and gradually

1:07:36

built up a huge company that

1:07:38

is called Rolf. It sells

1:07:40

cars.

1:07:41

It's a fairly complicated business, and here you have

1:07:44

a man who built all of this himself, and

1:07:46

what is happening to him now is simply that

1:07:49

they are taking it away. And all of this is being done, you know, under

1:07:52

the pretext that he took his own

1:07:56

money. After all, no one is even accusing

1:07:58

him of not paying taxes

1:08:00

or of corruption. They are saying to him: you

1:08:02

earned this money, and you had

1:08:04

billions, and then you took those billions of yours,

1:08:06

1.5 billion rubles

1:08:08

and transferred them to your foreign account. Criminal case.

1:08:11

Case.

1:08:12

Well, first of all, that sounds strange in principle,

1:08:13

because it was his

1:08:17

money. No one is saying it was someone else's money.

1:08:19

They are telling him: you moved your own money

1:08:21

out of Russia to another country, just like everyone who, by the way,

1:08:24

buys a yacht. I'm very interested to know

1:08:26

whether that was really done from a settlement account

1:08:27

in Russia. But even if

1:08:30

we assume that the law

1:08:32

was violated here and they want to open

1:08:33

a criminal case, then what should that look like?

1:08:35

Some tax officials come in

1:08:37

and say: Petrov transferred 1.5 billion rubles

1:08:40

we can see it from the bank records, so please give us

1:08:42

the documents; we are now going to decide the issue

1:08:45

of opening a criminal case, or we will open

1:08:46

a criminal case.

1:08:47

Explain it to us, and we will draw up the paperwork; we will

1:08:51

question your managers, and so on.

1:08:53

Then one could assume that the purpose of this

1:08:56

really is somehow legal.

1:08:59

But how did the campaign against

1:09:02

Petrov begin? At his

1:09:05

85-year-old mother's home, a search is carried out.

1:09:11

His mother's caregiver is interrogated.

1:09:14

At the same time, in 20 or 30 places

1:09:18

in the homes and personal apartments of his

1:09:22

employees, searches and seizures of

1:09:25

documents are carried out. Some people in masks

1:09:27

come running in from somewhere and block the company.

1:09:30

What's going on? Well, obviously they simply

1:09:32

want to take it away from him, plain and simple. It's a

1:09:34

juicy asset.

1:09:35

They want to seize a major car business.

1:09:38

They want to take it away. Let's watch a one-minute clip of Petrov's interview.

1:09:40

A major interview with Petrov comes out tomorrow

1:09:43

in the publication—I've forgotten which one. But now we have

1:09:45

a one-minute excerpt, so let's see

1:09:48

what he says about who is behind

1:09:49

these raider attacks. In the time

1:09:52

that has passed since, well, essentially,

1:09:55

these searches, seizures, house arrest, and so on,

1:09:57

have you developed a more

1:10:00

specific explanation of why this

1:10:02

happened?

1:10:07

[music]

1:10:08

Well, possibly it's a combination of

1:10:11

my having some kind of politically independent

1:10:14

position, plus someone's desire

1:10:17

to make money from this. The very nature

1:10:21

of the case is completely absurd

1:10:23

and indicates that someone here is

1:10:25

trying to use it for their own interests. And naturally,

1:10:29

some companies approached me and said,

1:10:32

'Come on, let's...,' no, 'let's

1:10:35

merge,' or 'let us buy you.'

1:10:37

And who approached you? Was it someone inside the company?

1:10:41

All these people, of course, should

1:10:43

one day be held accountable for this, because it

1:10:47

damages everything: the country's image,

1:10:51

the business climate, and people, simply on a

1:10:53

human level, in terms of relationships and the ability

1:10:56

to work. This should not be happening. Petrov is

1:11:00

certainly sympathetic for several

1:11:02

reasons. First, he publicly, several times,

1:11:04

supported our work.

1:11:06

Second, he was a State Duma deputy from

1:11:08

A Just Russia, and in that sense

1:11:10

he was a unique State Duma deputy

1:11:12

who knew that, basically,

1:11:15

he would get reprimanded by the party

1:11:17

leadership and the Presidential Administration for

1:11:19

helping us. I would write

1:11:22

emails to his assistant: we're investigating

1:11:25

this case—could Sergei Petrov

1:11:27

submit a parliamentary inquiry about it?

1:11:30

When we wrote that to others, most of the time

1:11:32

no one replied at all. But Petrov always

1:11:34

sent the parliamentary inquiry.

1:11:35

He would simply say,

1:11:38

'A certain Navalny has approached me,'

1:11:39

'I ask that these facts be checked,'

1:11:41

and send it to the Prosecutor's Office and

1:11:42

the Investigative Committee. He did that, and for that

1:11:46

he paid a price—he says in the interview that

1:11:48

complaints were made against him. But he did it

1:11:50

because he was, after all, a deputy.

1:11:52

People came to him about the fight

1:11:54

against corruption. That's the first thing. Second,

1:11:56

this affects all of us

1:11:59

because we see a guy who

1:12:01

built a business. Right now, for me,

1:12:04

it's very unpleasant when Petrov is discussed

1:12:06

in the context of pressure on businessmen—Petrov,

1:12:09

and then Abyzov and someone else—as if Abyzov

1:12:13

and Petrov are, excuse me, from different

1:12:15

universes. The guy was a military man from Orenburg

1:12:18

and built everything himself, one of the few

1:12:21

people who really did create

1:12:23

a business, built a huge company, and pays

1:12:26

enormous taxes just to take it out

1:12:29

that very 1.5 billion rubles (about 15 million USD), he

1:12:31

must have paid a huge amount in taxes

1:12:33

so he is making our country and our world

1:12:35

a little bit better. And what happens?

1:12:37

some goons come running in from the towers and at him

1:12:39

they search the place. I do not trust these FSB officers (Russia’s security service) at all

1:12:43

especially in the context of today’s very absurd

1:12:45

news. We were told today that

1:12:47

well, several FSB officers were arrested

1:12:50

from Alpha and various other units

1:12:52

who, it turns out, had been attacking

1:12:56

shady banks that were cashing out funds

1:12:59

they raided them using fake

1:13:00

search warrants

1:13:01

and simply stole the money. And now

1:13:04

today another piece of news came out, very plainly

1:13:06

but really opening our eyes to

1:13:09

these wonderful FSB employees: that

1:13:12

a whole number of FSB operatives who are currently

1:13:16

on assignment in the North Caucasus

1:13:18

have gone on the run

1:13:20

when they learned what was happening here

1:13:23

these criminal cases against the FSB special forces

1:13:26

who were simply attacking people and stealing money

1:13:30

They were not just breaking into some random bank

1:13:31

in that bank, there were 140

1:13:35

million rubles (about 1.4 million USD) in the vault. This is a real case, yes

1:13:37

this is not made up; it was reported in the media, described

1:13:39

in the criminal case materials, and they simply

1:13:42

signed that money over to themselves, supposedly for

1:13:43

body armor, declaring that right now

1:13:45

this was an FSB search, an operational measure, everybody

1:13:47

get down. It was completely absurd, and nobody

1:13:50

should have been lying there, that is

1:13:51

they would just run in shouting, “FSB! Everybody down!”

1:13:53

take the money and run away. They

1:13:57

were doing this, and now these same people are trying

1:14:00

to prove to us that Petrov

1:14:02

had some kind of bad business. And of course the fact

1:14:06

that they are now destroying Rolf

1:14:09

destroying a business that was simply

1:14:11

truly built from scratch, without

1:14:15

any oligarchic nonsense

1:14:17

not by a former minister, not by a former official

1:14:19

but by an ordinary entrepreneur, that is of course

1:14:22

a fact that shows that

1:14:23

once again confirms for us that under Putin

1:14:26

with all these people around him

1:14:27

as long as they remain in power, absolutely nothing

1:14:29

good will happen here

1:14:31

Well, they will smash this company to pieces, and then

1:14:33

naturally, 30 other businessmen

1:14:35

will think, “Why the hell should we do this?” We

1:14:37

will not do it; they will leave, they will leave, they will not

1:14:39

pay taxes, jobs will disappear, yes

1:14:41

and overall it is a massive demotivator for

1:14:43

everyone. How can anyone even

1:14:45

do anything if your business is simply

1:14:47

taken away like this?

1:14:50

Of course no one will do it

1:14:52

And again, just feel the difference

1:14:55

with Sechin, who steals openly

1:14:58

billions, openly buys yachts, openly

1:15:01

builds himself an estate somewhere with an area of

1:15:04

25,000 square meters

1:15:06

it is all officially registered, listed as the Russian

1:15:09

Federation, meaning it is disguised as belonging to

1:15:11

as the publication Baza reports, Baza

1:15:13

all of it is guarded by the National Guard (Rosgvardiya)

1:15:15

So there you have it: the state, the state

1:15:18

is not people like Petrov. People like Petrov

1:15:20

are enemies of the state. People like Sechin

1:15:23

are its foundation

1:15:24

But if people like Sechin are the foundation, then

1:15:25

of course nothing good will come of it

1:15:29

There are a lot of questions coming in

1:15:31

Valentin asks: “Alexei, what do you think about

1:15:32

Putin’s remarks about wind turbines

1:15:37

moles and so on?” Well, I

1:15:42

want to say this about it: it seems to me

1:15:44

to be an important thing that shows

1:15:46

that, of course, at the head of Russia

1:15:47

sits a very backward guy who

1:15:51

simply does not understand what is going on. You

1:15:54

remember

1:15:54

a few years ago Putin kept telling us

1:15:56

constantly

1:15:58

the same kind of nonsense about shale

1:16:00

oil. Together with Miller from Gazprom

1:16:02

they said there was no such thing as shale oil

1:16:04

that it was all a myth. Then it turned out that

1:16:07

production was booming in the United States and in

1:16:09

many other countries, and Russia lost heavily

1:16:11

because of it. Putin is ignorant, he does not

1:16:15

understand it, and the problem is not even that

1:16:18

he is ignorant and does not understand things, well

1:16:20

come on

1:16:21

there are, what, 26,500 people watching us right now

1:16:23

and I think most of you

1:16:25

are not specialists either in moles or

1:16:28

in wind power or in energy in general, but

1:16:30

before talking nonsense, we

1:16:32

would at least read something. But Putin does not want

1:16:35

to read. He and all his Sechins and all

1:16:38

the rest really are these backward

1:16:41

rather dim people who refuse

1:16:45

to take anything in at all. More than that

1:16:47

it turns out he has been saying all this nonsense about moles

1:16:50

and wind turbines

1:16:51

for many years already. Today I saw a video

1:16:53

where someone simply compared his

1:16:56

statement from several years ago and now

1:16:59

and found that it was exactly the same word for word, only

1:17:01

this time about moles. Let us listen

1:17:03

Take these wind turbines, for example, which are very

1:17:08

common in many European

1:17:10

countries

1:17:11

It would seem that this is a completely

1:17:14

environmentally clean form of energy. But

1:17:18

it turns out that is not really so: they kill birds

1:17:22

there is such vibration there that

1:17:26

worms even crawl up to the surface

1:17:28

you see, not to mention all sorts of moles

1:17:31

there and so on. So the real question is

1:17:35

whether people will be able to live on a planet

1:17:37

lined like a palisade with wind turbines and covered

1:17:41

with several layers of solar panels, yes

1:17:44

I mean, wind power.

1:17:45

Wind generation is all well and good, but what about birds?

1:17:49

Does anyone ever think, in that case, about how many birds

1:17:51

die? They shake so much that worms and

1:17:54

other creatures crawl out of the ground. This is no joke, actually.

1:17:56

These are serious consequences,

1:17:58

from using these modern methods

1:18:03

of generating energy. Once again, I just want to say: what are you

1:18:07

even talking about? You're just spewing

1:18:11

absolute nonsense. It's really astonishing. I mean, basically,

1:18:13

the concept is rational enough, sure: Putin

1:18:17

heads a country that really is

1:18:19

a giant gas station, and he

1:18:22

wants it to remain a gas station

1:18:24

forever, and for us to have combined heat and power plants,

1:18:27

hydroelectric plants, and a nuclear

1:18:29

industry,

1:18:30

because that's what we inherited

1:18:31

from the Soviet Union, and he thinks that

1:18:35

our energy sector should always stay

1:18:37

like that forever. We can't

1:18:40

develop it the way Europe has, because

1:18:41

it just doesn't work out that way for us. So he kind of

1:18:44

says: I doubt that

1:18:47

these so-called environmentally friendly sources

1:18:49

of energy are really all that environmentally friendly,

1:18:52

so to speak. But the man is just unbelievably

1:18:55

full of nonsense every time. Instead of

1:18:58

offering any kind of calculations, he just starts

1:19:01

talking about birds. Come on already.

1:19:04

This has been discussed a million times. If the gentleman had read

1:19:07

any article at all, he would know that yes, of course,

1:19:10

birds do die because of wind turbines, but

1:19:13

overall, human activity kills birds

1:19:17

on such a scale that for every

1:19:20

one

1:19:22

bird killed by turbines, there are

1:19:25

1,000 deaths

1:19:26

from other causes. Do you know what kills the most?

1:19:27

What causes the highest number of bird deaths?

1:19:30

Among human-related factors, birds die most often because of

1:19:33

cats—domestic cats, cats that live at dachas (country houses),

1:19:37

cats that live in homes. They destroy

1:19:40

nests and eat these birds, including

1:19:42

rare birds, in enormous numbers. We're not even

1:19:45

talking about that. Did you see how that CHP plant burned?

1:19:47

Let's watch a few seconds.

1:19:57

[music]

1:20:29

This is how the CHP plant in Mytishchi burned today. One

1:20:32

person died, and it burned quite

1:20:35

intensely, because it was a gas-fired CHP plant.

1:20:38

Gas was supplied there, and it burned. What do you think:

1:20:40

did this CHP plant and these emissions,

1:20:44

which the residents

1:20:47

of Mytishchi will be breathing in for a long time,

1:20:50

do more damage to the environment, or would 10,000 wind turbines

1:20:54

standing around Mytishchi have done more?

1:20:56

Obviously, the nuclear power plant in Chernobyl

1:20:59

did more damage to the Earth's environment,

1:21:04

or did all the solar panels in the entire history

1:21:07

of human civilization? The answer is obvious.

1:21:10

Of course, you can debate whether

1:21:13

nuclear power

1:21:15

is good or bad. That debate is happening everywhere. In

1:21:18

Germany, green energy has won out,

1:21:21

which is why they are moving away from nuclear power plants.

1:21:23

The advanced, so to speak,

1:21:25

scientific trend is moving toward the idea that

1:21:27

humanity is trying

1:21:29

to use less nuclear energy

1:21:31

because it's supposedly safe, safe—and then

1:21:33

bam, Chernobyl happened, and then

1:21:35

bam, Fukushima happened, and

1:21:37

the damage from those two accidents, or from an accident like the one

1:21:41

at the Mayak plant (a Soviet/Russian nuclear facility), was so great

1:21:43

that no wind turbines—which of course also are not

1:21:45

the safest things in the world

1:21:47

or the very best—still, no wind turbines

1:21:50

in the next million years would do as much damage

1:21:53

as nuclear energy already has.

1:21:54

But you can talk about this in a

1:21:56

normal, professional way. Instead, what does our man do?

1:21:59

He just spouts this nonsense about

1:22:00

moles, worms, and everything else.

1:22:03

Yes, there are issues related to vibration and so on,

1:22:06

but to simply say that

1:22:08

all birds are dying because of wind turbines and that we should

1:22:11

cover the Earth, damn it, in

1:22:13

two layers of solar panels—

1:22:17

well then, why not let the Earth be covered in two layers

1:22:19

of thermal power plants instead?

1:22:20

The man understands nothing

1:22:23

and talks nonsense. And this is not just

1:22:26

some fun fact—it's a very sad fact, because

1:22:30

this man leads our country.

1:22:33

He has led our country for 20 years already, and

1:22:36

his low level of understanding

1:22:39

of problems like this will simply lead to

1:22:42

us living worse and worse and worse.

1:22:45

The last thing I need to say is this:

1:22:47

I was away for ten days and apparently missed these broadcasts a lot,

1:22:50

so I've already

1:22:51

gone way over time, but I can't help

1:22:56

telling you about an amazingly funny and

1:22:58

instructive incident that happened in

1:23:01

Moscow, but still

1:23:03

has to do with Omsk, because the famous

1:23:06

Russian law—or maxim—that says

1:23:09

"Do not try to leave Omsk"

1:23:11

worked even on such a gloomy little guy

1:23:14

as the head of the Omsk police. This

1:23:16

head of the Omsk police—

1:23:19

let's first watch 46 seconds of him

1:23:22

breaking up an anti-corruption rally in Omsk.

1:24:11

This is the Omsk city police, who are quite

1:24:15

briskly, as you can see, detaining

1:24:17

pensioners and a man with a Russian flag.

1:24:19

Commanding this police force is the chief of police

1:24:22

of Omsk, a man named Alexei Merkushev, and here he is—

1:24:26

you can see, a classic mug,

1:24:29

epaulettes like that, a stern expression on his face,

1:24:33

and he says that he will not

1:24:35

allow these extremists to walk through

1:24:37

the peaceful streets of Omsk and, well,

1:24:40

block citizens' passage. And he supposedly has

1:24:43

enough moral authority and rank

1:24:45

to disperse all

1:24:48

these people, since he has an honorary certificate...

1:24:49

receives, and it so happened that Alexei

1:24:52

Merkushev tried to leave I'm screamin

1:24:54

he went to Moscow to study at the academy

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of the Ministry of Internal Affairs so that, as we can see, he could become some kind of

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general and get an even higher

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position, but this remarkable man

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Oksana tells us, public ombudsman

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the police [official] decided to ride the Moscow metro

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as befits a police officer on

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a business trip, he naturally got drunk as

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a pig

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forgive the expression, and tried to go through

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through the turnstile without paying, ran into

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some man who turned out to be there

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an electric train driver, and started some kind of

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drugs for

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literally, the head of the Omsk police tried

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to sneak into the metro without a ticket and started

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a fight with a train driver; he was detained

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got hit in the face, and accordingly it was posted on

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the Police Ombudsman public page, where we apparently see

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the police report, the initial court

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record, and that the head of Omsk participated in a drunken fight

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beat someone up and got punched in the eye himself

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as a matter of fact, from the Ministry of Internal Affairs academy he was

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slightly higher

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expelled, and thus he did not manage to

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leave Omsk; and now

1:25:57

he is returning there, sknode, not really

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it is interesting whether he will remain at the head of

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the Omsk police and whether he will continue

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to break up anti-corruption rallies there

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and whether he will still insist

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that people like him should have in

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Russia more rights than people like us

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thank you very much for watching this

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long broadcast after my 10-day

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absence; support independent

1:26:28

candidates, demand their registration in

1:26:29

Moscow and St. Petersburg, in Irkutsk, Ufa, and in

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all the other cities of the country. Only

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when we achieve this will we win. For now,

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see you next Thursday

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