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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly 8:00 p.m.
That means we are live on air with
the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its host,
Alexei Navalny, or a person
whose organization may be declared a sect, which,
as was said not by just some random person off the street, but by
Igor Ivanishko, a court expert and
scholar of religion—that is, one of those very people who
have the authority to submit documents to the court
to have something recognized as a sect,
a destructive sect.
So this is a good, encouraging
sign that I—and obviously
many viewers of this program as well—are not
There are no sects without followers. The chief
sectarian—they’ll declare us a sect and ban us.
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We’re sending little ducklings—
they’ll float across the screen. We are continuing to raise
money for the fines that were
imposed a year ago on independent
candidates for the Moscow City Duma, on all
participants and organizers of the Moscow
protests—multi-million-ruble fines. They
will have to be paid.
We are raising money for them. In the description
of this broadcast there will also be a link to
a post by Vladimir Milov, who—many thanks to him—
has agreed to act as a kind of
aggregator. He very kindly
agreed to use his bank account
so that money can be transferred there,
and then he will in turn
pay these fines. It’s just that using the accounts of the people directly involved doesn’t work,
simply because
they are under arrest or constantly
under threat of arrest. Anatoly Ivankov asks:
“Alexei, why do you think
there’s not a word on Russian zombie TV
about the protests and elections in Belarus?”
Obviously, because
Russian zombie TV generally does not
show protests at all,
except those in Western countries.
They do not want anything like that
or anything similar to happen here, and obviously
no one is drawing parallels between Lukashenko and Putin for them.
So where shall we begin? Let’s
start with the fact that in September there
will be elections. I promised to drive you crazy
with constant mentions of Smart Voting,
and I
intend to keep that promise
because it is genuinely super important: 31
regions, 66 election campaigns. Here’s
a question from Ekaterina Shtangi:
“Hello, Alexei. Please tell us
more about the Komi Republic.
There will be elections in the Komi Republic, in particular
in the Komi Republic.
By the way, it is very important from the point of view
that the authorities’ ratings are low there, and
United Russia can be crushed there.
For example, we do not have a штаб (campaign office) in the Komi Republic,
there.
Although we are still recruiting election observers
everywhere, so, guys, this is something you really
need to take part in, because
right now this is basically the main
political direction the authorities are taking—very
quietly, by the way. The events you see—
the arrest of one person, the arrest
of another,
people being dragged off at rallies, all sorts of things—
but in fact the main thing
the authorities are doing now is changing
the election procedure right before our eyes.
They looked and saw that, well,
people were swallowing it, and basically this
altered, perverted procedure
of the nationwide vote (the constitutional vote) somehow
seemed to be accepted, so now they are
introducing laws so that any
elections can be multi-day and held on
tree stumps.
As for observers, right now we
—and the link is also in the description—are gathering
thousands of observers and sending them to other
regions. Roughly speaking, if you live in Moscow,
go observe in Nizhny Novgorod, or
go to Tambov to observe, and you
sign up and say: we will go
observe. And immediately United Russia
introduces a bill under which it will not
be allowed for a person to observe in another
region. That is, if you are in Moscow—
right now that is not the case, but they want to make it so
that you cannot observe in Nizhny Novgorod, or in
Tambov, or even in Moscow Region—
Balashikha,
Podolsk—major elections there—you will not be able
to observe. So they are carefully
watching everything we do, and Smart
Voting, campaigners,
observers—and they are consistently
dragging through all sorts of laws
to obstruct this.
The only way to resist this now is,
first, through more active participation in
the election campaign—not only in terms of
voting, but also in terms of work. And then
we will see. Of course, I think that undoubtedly
all this creeping change
to election legislation, which
will turn elections into
a non-existent procedure, will stop—but only if
there are truly hundreds of thousands of people across the
country involved. And still, we need to understand: Putin
and Panfilova will not stop introducing new measures.
the rules, because if they don’t stop,
they will lose every election until
a huge number of people are out in the
streets. It will have to be done, we will have to
go out, we’ll have to go to jail for it, go out
of prison and then go back out into the streets again, because
otherwise, otherwise there won’t be any elections there anymore
by the State Duma elections, there absolutely won’t be
anything left except the same old stump voting and seven-day
voting, and then the announcement
of the results: United
Russia has won everywhere. So get ready, guys.
For our struggle, for our right to vote, simply
for some candidates, for our right to be
observers, for our right to have at least
something resembling an election, we will have to
fight for it together. On indis 163 they ask me,
“Alexei, has there been any reaction
from the West to the reset-to-zero (the constitutional change allowing Putin to reset his presidential term count)? How can you
comment on that?” I can
comment on it this way: the West
— it’s not exactly that they couldn’t care less, but, well,
they more or less don’t care, because they already
understood everything. The West looks at this
vast one-sixth of the Earth’s landmass
and they understand: Belarus, Russia,
Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Azerbaijan — it’s all
more or less the same thing: some former Soviet
crook seized power and clings to it until death
at the helm. So, well, what else is new?
They view it negatively, because
it’s a huge country that is getting poorer, and from
Russia every year about 200,000 people
flee. And where do they flee? To the West.
The West doesn’t like that. In principle, they
would like things to develop normally, but
if we ourselves, so to speak, are not
fighting for that, then what can the West do? So
the West limits itself to adopting
resolutions saying that they express
deep concern, and tomorrow they’ll
express their deepest possible concern, and yet
Putin will still be right here. And everything
that is happening in Russia, of course, they
recognize as lawlessness. But do you expect
the West to go and fight with our
Ella Pamfilova (head of Russia’s Central Election Commission)? No. They think,
basically,
“Okay, what are we supposed to do — start a nuclear war with
Putin?” Russians have to
stand up for their own rights.
Of course, we want to help them, but how exactly
to help is not very clear. So, well, Putin —
fine, Putin. Putin keeps all the Russian money
in our banks. He has turned this
country into a raw-material appendage, simply into
a gas station for our cars.
He supplies us with timber, he supplies us with
metal. All of this somehow looks very
unfair to the people of
Russia, and clearly, clearly this will somehow
end badly — that’s what the West thinks.
But let’s not run ahead of ourselves,
get ahead of the locomotive. By the way, at the end
of the program, there are 40,000 — 42,000 people
watching live right now. As people keep joining,
we’ll be discussing the most
important topic: Khabarovsk. I wrote about
Khabarovsk. Of course, Khabarovsk is the most
important region right now, but in fact you can
draw various parallels there. Notice
that already this September, and
naturally by the State Duma elections,
the Kremlin will fully unleash
this whole technology of fake
small parties and fake candidates.
We are already seeing this very actively even
in regional campaigns. It’s just that
most people, of course, don’t follow
regional campaigns — it’s not interesting to follow
regional campaigns — but nevertheless
it is happening. And there was this
kind of
interesting thing too, and nobody
paid attention to it — the media absolutely did not
notice it. Do you remember the party
Communists of Russia? These Communists of Russia,
their leader, that Suraykin guy,
who ran in the presidential election —
these Communists of Russia take part in
every election in the country. In an amazing,
astonishing way, their candidates
always collect signatures, always
get registered — everything always goes very
smoothly for them. That is, they always get
very few votes, but they participate in every
election. And then they had some kind of
split, and one of the leaders of Communists of
Russia, later an opponent of Suraykin,
basically revealed the details of something
we knew about, but didn’t know
in detail. For example, in the last
Moscow City Duma elections, when all that
turmoil was going on, in every district there was a
representative of Communists of Russia, simply
in every district. And all of them said, “We
collected 4,000–5,000 signatures,” and all of them
turned out to have perfect signatures. And then this
guy came out and said, “Do you know, actually, that
Suraykin received 120 million rubles (about 1.3 million USD) from the mayor’s office
to collect them and
put forward his fake candidates,”
because, well, Communists of Russia
pull votes away from the Communists; in general they
help United Russia, often — very often.
Almost always, a Communists of Russia candidate
attacks;
he acts like a kind of enforcer
for the United Russia candidate: he files complaints, attacks all
the opposition figures, and so on. So let’s
listen to 1 minute and 6 seconds of it.
Konstantin Zhukov, deputy chairman — apparently
former deputy chairman by now — of the Communists of
Russia party, talks about how things are organized
there. “I am one of the founders
of the party,”
“secretary, deputy chairman
of the Central Committee, Konstantin…”
Unfortunately, as of today our project can
quite frankly be called a failure.
Power and the party have been usurped
by Maksim Suraikin's clique, which has turned
the party into its own commercial project.
It is engaged in trading elections,
cooperates with the Presidential Administration,
and with regional and local administrations,
in order to act
as a spoiler for the CPRF (Communist Party of the Russian Federation), and gets paid for it.
I'll give just one example.
In last year's elections to the Moscow
City Duma, out of thirty-two
candidates, 26 were what you might call
Sobyanin's people. Through third parties, into the party's accounts,
through intermediaries,
the city administration funneled around 120
million rubles (about 1.3 million USD).
The main goal was to prevent
the CPRF from forming a majority in
the Moscow City Duma—and they succeeded.
The CPRF fell short by around five to seven
seats. You see, and this is very important
to understand: look, this is systemic. This is
not just, you know,
an example of the lawlessness that existed in
Moscow and how afraid Sobyanin was that we
would take the majority away from him—the majority,
yes, that's one example, of course. But right now
there are elections in Novosibirsk, and it's the same thing there.
Well, in Siberia too, everywhere—Communists of Russia,
what else, the New People party, and various
others—one of every kind, basically—they put them all on the ballot.
What does that mean? It means
that an ordinary voter simply
has no idea who to vote for.
That is exactly why Smart Voting is needed.
Because there are all these fake pseudo-
opposition figures who, by appearance, by
name—say, with a name like Communist
of Russia, or opposition something, or the New
People party—people think, well, maybe that's some kind of youth party,
and then some other party of, I don't know who,
and then there'll be Sergey Shnurov's party (the Russian musician), oh,
Sergey Shnurov—maybe people will vote for him,
and then all sorts of urbanists, or whoever else,
feminists, men or women,
and all of this is just planted window dressing.
It's designed so that one gets five percent,
this one gets seven percent, that one gets
two percent, and the United Russia candidate
gets 15 and wins. Without Smart Voting,
there is simply no way to win.
Because no matter what city you live in,
even in Moscow, most likely you don't
know any of these candidates at all. There are no debates,
and it's impossible to sort them out, and
only Smart Voting allows us
to consolidate enough votes around the strongest
candidate so that he
gets 30–35 percent, and that's it—then
he will defeat the United Russia candidate. This matters.
Of course, all of this needs to be explained, because
well, it's not a very simple concept, and
those of you who are able, maybe better
than I am, to explain all this to other people,
please do explain it, because it is
very, very important—super important. And as for
the question of why Sobyanin was afraid that
the communists—or, more broadly, the opposition, not
United Russia—would get a majority: it's because
they've already been exposed all over the place, including our dear
Shaposhnikov.
We caught him
failing to declare a billion rubles and an apartment.
As we told you, deputy
Maksim Kruglov, head of the Yabloko faction in
the Moscow City Duma, wrote a letter
to the prosecutor's office saying,
check this guy—he failed to declare
a billion, and it's all proven, all of it.
Tax experts wrote that
Shaposhnikov failed to declare a billion.
And what is the prosecutor's office saying now?
In an exclusive shared by Maksim
Kruglov, they tell us: you know, we
checked, the Moscow prosecutor's office checked, and no
violations were found. Everything is perfectly fine,
everything is entirely legal, and deputy Shaposhnikov
is completely innocent. Could there have been
any other answer to that question? Answered by
the Moscow city prosecutor, about whom you also
did an investigation—Prosecutor Popov.
A villa in Spain,
hotels in Montenegro, a fishing lodge,
some houses here and there—you know the story.
Well, if Shaposhnikov needs to be removed from office,
then Prosecutor Popov ought to be
put in jail. So that's how they protect each other.
Shaposhnikov protects him legislatively,
and he protects Shaposhnikov from the legal side. But
no matter how much they try to
cover for each other with paperwork, they still go up to the podium,
the deputies do, and here is a completely
fresh recording. It starts with: come out, I'll show
you... [inaudible]
Stupin comes out, and they are acting absolutely
correctly. This is purely political:
draw up whatever papers you want, but we will come out and
we will begin every speech by
asking you to explain, please,
where you got two billion from, and how you
got this apartment, how you got that
apartment. That's absolutely the right approach.
I'll show you now—well, it had to be
cut down a bit. Inga gave a better speech, but then
Stupin comes out and continues the same
conversation.
For 1 minute 40 seconds, like normal
deputies, they just tear into him—and rightly so.
This is the speaker of the Moscow City Duma,
Shaposhnikov, a man who still has not
shown us a declaration proving whether it was legal for him
to suddenly acquire two billion rubles.
Where did the money in his account come from?
There had already been 870 million there before, and
the most astonishing thing is that this man,
while being a shareholder,
such an enterprise was subsequently sold
and on top of that, received 2 billion rubles
an apartment from the city, apparently as someone very
much in need. A very interesting discussion has unfolded
now following
the question that Alexei Valeryevich asked me
about the apartment’s address. Everyone is now
writing: yes, yes, we want the apartment address too.
So, journalists from
Open Media contacted me and gave me the address:
2 Konstantin Fedin Street. It was registered on
September 16, 2004; as for the apartment number,
I thought Alexei knew it perfectly well himself.
Let’s assume Yekaterina still
asks you to provide evidence
that this apartment was given to me by the city.
That was your statement from the podium, so if
you made it from the podium, then please
present evidence that it was specifically
this apartment at the address on Konstantin
Fedin Street
that was given. There was a publication in
Open Media, on the basis of which my
colleague Yekaterina Engalycheva is now
saying that it contained information that
Shaposhnikov received an apartment in 2004.
If you, Alexei Valeryevich, disagree with
this, you can
accordingly go to court against
Open Media and refute it.
Chair, I ask that this be entered into the record.
It is incorrect to call me to order
when I am the one being discussed. Thank you, and respected colleagues, within
the agenda,
you can see how this really works.
Imagine: even when they were the majority,
and even in the minority, they come in and
quite rightly, on absolutely any agenda item,
they begin with: show us your declaration,
show us where your 2 billion rubles came from,
explain where the apartment came from.
It’s clear that not many people watch the broadcasts from the Moscow City Duma,
but
these videos still spread among those who
follow this stuff.
They see it, and whenever any number of
voters—and voters of any
political leaning—watch these kinds of
speeches by deputies, whose side do you think
their sympathies will be on? On the side of a United Russia member
with 2 billion rubles, or, by contrast,
on the side of a person who came to the podium in a T-shirt?
Well, of course the United Russia candidate
will get zero votes.
And they will do absolutely anything not to
let the opposition through. Right now, we all
need to watch very carefully
what is happening. This
September, we need to work as hard as possible
as election observers and see whether we can
in this new situation get at least
something resembling an election.
Maybe they’ll let some people through, maybe not.
Maybe they got a little scared by Khabarovsk (the city known for mass protests in 2020), and
therefore won’t falsify things too heavily.
Or maybe, on the contrary, they were so
frightened by Khabarovsk that they’ll
let no one through at all.
But the root issue is the same:
United Russia cannot honestly win in Komi
or even come close in Novosibirsk.
There will be elections in Tomsk, but come on— in Tomsk
no one is going to vote for United
Russia. And maybe they got so scared
that they’ll simply purge everyone.
If they do,
by what other means, besides taking to the
streets, will we be able to defend anything?
Vitaly Sharov asks me:
what is the difference between the situation with the shaman
and the situation with the pseudo-
hegumen (abbot), and why did one suffer while the other
continues his speeches with impunity?
We’ll discuss all of that. I even have
a video about the hegumen and about the shaman—it’s
very interesting. Vyacheslav, or maybe Sergey,
asks me: Alexei, will there be any point in
trying to persuade everyone to go on the last day of voting
so that
the first unnecessary days show zero turnout?
I’m not sure that will work.
Let’s first see what rules
the final rules will be
adopted for this election campaign
in September, and then directly decide on
the tactical steps.
We’ll determine what will work best, because
it’s not certain that this approach will work. We don’t
need to show zero turnout here; we
just need to come
and vote, and during the first two days the most important thing for us
is to monitor all of it.
So if you want to participate more actively,
sign up as observers; the link is
below, under the video.
There is also a link to the website of all our
headquarters. Last time, a lot of people asked me
because I mention regions here,
say something, and people can’t find their
regions. So now I’m giving
a general link; it has addresses and
information for all our headquarters—that is,
40 regions where our headquarters operate—and
so you can get in touch with them,
find things out, come by, and
generally connect with others. Because I
of course understand very well: you sit
at home alone, watching a program, and think,
I want to do something, but
alone it’s unclear, it just feels confusing.
I was like that myself once.
I sat there thinking and then thought: I’ll go
join the Yabloko party (a Russian liberal political party). And then you show up
alone, sit there like an idiot, afraid of everything.
People are walking around, doing things, and on your own
it’s scary. So come to us, and we’ll
try to unite somehow with you.
The most important news, the main news of all:
in the state media this week, how
do you think—what? Khabarovsk? Not even close.
Khabarovsk? Nothing of the sort. Belarus? No.
Definitely not Belarus.
The main news story, of course, is Vladimir
Putin and his magic pen. The first time
everyone was still laughing when, remember, I showed you
there was that episode when Putin
during a meeting was saying something or other
about something, put down his pen, and that was it.
Newspapers actually came out with headlines about
how Putin, in a rage, threw down his pen.
Let’s take 8 seconds to see what
rage looks like from the point of view of the state
media. Naturally, when a person
loses their home or their life
is in danger, rather than working themselves into
a rage and throwing a pen. Back then everyone laughed,
but it has a sequel: Putin and
the magic pen. This time, in all seriousness,
a large number of media outlets
interpreted this whole thing—I mean,
as if it were some kind of signal, that Putin
twirled his pen, he twirled it like this.
Margarita Simonyan
costs us 20 billion rubles a year
—this, this pathetic excuse for media. Again, if you
remember, at one point she sued me
because I called the RT channel
pathetic. Well, this pathetic outfit costs
us 20 billion rubles, and it publishes
news stories about Putin twirling a pen once.
And during the Soviet Union, Western
journalists had a kind of special discipline
—Kremlinology—and from the way
people were arranged on the Mausoleum during
parades, they would interpret all sorts of things
and make various predictions. We’ve progressed
compared with that, because now
what gets interpreted is this very
nine-second episode, because Putin
twirled a pen, and apparently that means
something.
with the resources you’ve already
mentioned. Still, I’d like you to
say a few words specifically about this
direction.
You see, yes, he twirled the pen, but I’m not bringing it up for nothing.
What could it mean? Maybe he’s furious,
or maybe the opposite—maybe it’s some kind of
gesture of encouragement, like
the pen periodically points at
one of the governors and tells him,
‘Well done.’ Or maybe he was lost in thought,
twirling it because he was coming up with
a third article about World War II, or
something else. I mean,
it’s funny, but it shows
and at the same time it shows the degradation
of the state media, and the degradation in general
of politics. But what else are they supposed to discuss? They’re
forbidden from discussing, basically, everything: about
Belarus—no; about Khabarovsk—no; about
the protests—no; about rigged elections—
no. They can’t talk about anything. So instead they write
news stories about Putin twirling
a pen. Robert Petrosyan asks:
What do you think about the war on the border between Armenia and
Azerbaijan? Why is Russia staying silent instead of
intervening? What is the CSTO even for, if not for this?
Well, I’m not going to comment on it in particular right now
because I simply don’t
know the situation very well. But I think
Russia is staying silent because Russia
is trying, in this situation, to play both sides
—to be with both yours and theirs. It’s obvious you can get involved
in all of this
and support one side, which of course
would be extremely disadvantageous for Russia—to take
someone’s side. So it tries to stay on good terms
with both. But again, this may be
somewhat wrong or very naive
judgment; I’m not ready right now
to comment on it in detail. Olimpisky
Deyateli asked: what would you say about
the protests that took place yesterday in Moscow and in
St. Petersburg? There were more in St. Petersburg than in Moscow. I
want to say that the people who
came out yesterday in Moscow are truly
great. It was all very good, and I believe
that people should always take to the streets. But I’ll
repeat my view, which I know
many of my colleagues in the
opposition movement don’t like, including
people I have a very high opinion of, like
Andrei Pivovarov and others: protest
actions need to be prepared. You can’t just
announce, ‘Oh, let’s gather at 3 p.m.’
and then do nothing else
and later say, ‘Oh, they didn’t
approve the rally, so let’s then
turn it into a queue.’ That’s not how it
works. At least, I think
that’s the wrong way to do it. We announce it,
and if we’re refused, we say: well, we’re still
going out anyway, because it’s our right
to assemble peacefully and without weapons, and in
any case, if we announce a rally, I
believe this is how things should work:
from that day on, everyone gets to work
inviting people to the rally, making sure
more of them come. They record clips, they
record videos, we badger all kinds of
opinion leaders so that they
support it. That’s how preparation
happens. So it’s great that yesterday
some people came out, but very often the people who
look at all this, for them it’s more of a
confirmation
of a certain weakness in the opposition here, especially
in Moscow and especially in St. Petersburg.
A large share of the residents of these cities
are opposed to the authorities, and yet only
about 500 people come out in Moscow and 2,000 people
in St. Petersburg, and for many this looks like
the opposition isn’t really doing
its job very well. To keep that from
happening, actions need to be prepared very thoroughly.
I don't want to criticize him outright.
A lot of people, including many of my
colleagues, have talked about it at great length, because, well, at least they did
something, and good for them, but still,
these rallies need to be prepared for; we still
will have to come out again and again, very often,
and keep coming out, because apart from
taking to the streets right now,
there is no other way to achieve anything real
and substantial, as we have sometimes
seen many times over.
Any positive changes, or at least
promises of positive changes, are tied only
to those moments when people pour into
the streets and the Kremlin gets scared. Nothing else
frightens them, so this has to be done.
It will have to be done, it will have to be done
together, setting aside all sorts of disagreements
between all of us.
But it needs to be prepared properly, and I don't like it
when something is just announced and then
— excuse me — everyone forgets about it all for two
weeks, and then again, on the last day,
someone writes a Facebook post saying, come on,
bring umbrellas and a good mood,
come along. That's not how this works.
Korvin Krestik asks an excellent
question: I signed up on the website
to be an election observer. When should someone contact
me? Here's how it works:
this is all very tricky and very
complicated too. You signed up as an observer
somewhere in Ukhta, Balashikha, or Tambov.
Then, for you to actually become an observer, we
have to find a person who is a candidate
in that district, or at least in that city,
who will give you the paperwork, because otherwise
you won't be let in. We're not
part of the system here; we're all just people.
We can't issue you an official referral.
The systemic parties probably — as you've
no doubt seen many times — will either get cold feet
and give you nothing, or they'll give it to you and then
revoke it at the last moment. So, well,
what can I say — wait, someone will contact you.
Behind the facade of this whole observer
recruitment effort, there's just a very
complicated, very tedious job going on
to provide everyone with those very
documents for election observation. Who brought down the USSR?
What do you think? And here Vyacheslav Volodin
gave a truly astonishing explanation
of who brought it down, who is to blame, who is
responsible for the collapse of the USSR.
At 1 minute 9 seconds, I just wanted
to show you this as an example of how brazen
these crooks are. Let's go to 1 minute 9
seconds. Volodin: "Here in Russia, politicians
— and names can be named — who publicly
spoke of the need to break up
Russia — they should immediately understand that
there will be liability.
Up to 10 years. For American politicians
who dreamed about our country, there should also
be liability. If they come
to our country, they can be
arrested, and their extradition here can
be demanded. These are concrete,
effective measures to protect our
sovereignty. Therefore, first of all, I would like
to address representatives
of the opposition parties. You and I
have one country.
Party interests may differ,
but we already lost one country once. And especially those
who are now trying to throw stones at
the Constitution should understand that they
bear responsibility for the collapse of the country.
Since you've taken upon yourselves this heavy burden
of succession from the CPSU (Communist Party of the Soviet Union), there was both
good and bad there — including the collapse of the country."
Isn't that lovely? You see, the CPSU — so now the
Communist Party of the Russian Federation is supposedly its heir, and therefore
it bears responsibility for the collapse of the country. But
it turns out that Volodin, Putin, Shoigu, and
all the rest of them apparently were not in the CPSU at all.
Apparently they never became party members
back in 1978, 1976 — so all of
United Russia, every single one of them,
every person,
well, all the people who hold any kind of
office were members of the CPSU, all of them were in
their district party committees, the Komsomol (Soviet Communist youth organization), every one of them.
But now they really sit there as if
time itself began with Putin and United Russia.
So these so-called communists, supposedly,
bear responsibility for the collapse of the country, while
we, apparently,
were the ones preserving it. And Putin, apparently, was not
an aide to Sobchak (Anatoly Sobchak, former mayor of St. Petersburg), who worked in
the Interregional Deputies Group, and
none of them were in democratic parties.
Not in democratic parties, not in Gaidar's camp,
because there was a party of power under
Gaidar, and they all ran to the party of power.
There was Gaidar's group, then Chernomyrdin's party
of power, Our Home Is Russia.
They ran there, and now they're in United
Russia. And now they're just overflowing with this pathos and
lecturing everyone: we have one country, and you
are going to destroy it, just as you already destroyed one
country — that's what CPSU members are telling us.
People like Volodin, because he was a member
of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union,
swore loyalty to it, promised that he would never join
any other party, that it was the best thing,
that he would die fighting for the cause
of the Communist Party — and now all that
has been forgotten. This is important, very important — remember it.
It's important to keep reminding these people of it.
Anatoly Dust asks me:
Tell us about your visit to Arkhangelsk
Region, specifically what Severodvinsk was like.
I'll talk about the trip in general, because we
went to Vidnoye too, and I'll talk about that.
We'll have a segment on Severodvinsk.
It's great. I really like the North in general,
the North, the northwest of Russia — of course, it's
Poverty, terrible conditions, roads that are completely wrecked.
Well, it’s a really great place there, and the people are very
good. The authorities’ approval ratings there are quite low
because, well, you spend a day in
Arkhangelsk and you immediately understand why
people hate this government, because, well,
they’ve basically stolen absolutely everything, because these
regions
under any normal circumstances should
be very rich, but they’re very poor
simply because Putin gradually
let everything be looted and destroyed. In Severodvinsk,
we went to look at a submarine.
You can actually see submarines from the beach,
you can see them a little bit.
I swam in the White Sea,
and it’s very cold there. Even just going to the beach was
really cold. Plus 14°C isn’t exactly warm,
not warm at all.
It’s a great place. Unfortunately, we didn’t
stay there very long, and I didn’t have
the chance to meet with people there in any
significant numbers and talk to them. That’s a shame. But
I had simply gone there for Yevgeny Makarov’s trial.
Alexei, who should initiate
early elections to the Duma? Well, as I understand it,
right now the discussion is about whether
the Duma itself or the president should initiate them
somehow. Well, exactly how they would legally
cook that up isn’t all that important, but I
think it’s entirely possible that they may already
try this winter to push through elections to the
State Duma.
An amazing, just absolutely incredible
story that very few people noticed.
It happened this week. So, there
was this judge in the Moscow Arbitration Court,
a judge named Olga Alexandrova, and if I’m not
mistaken, I had some
cases involving her, and I wrote
some angry posts about her, if I remember correctly.
In general, there were a lot of
different conflicts surrounding her, and now, finally,
now
she’s been fired. And this Olga Alexandrova
became best known for the fact that she
helped seize the company Bashneft.
It was specifically by her ruling that Bashneft
was returned to the state, and that
decision was absolutely unlawful.
And now this
judge, Olga Alexandrova, has been fired, fired
without any punishment at all—just dismissed, which
is remarkable. She was fired because another judge went to the
FSB (Russia’s security service) and recorded this Alexandrova
on a voice recorder, and then handed it all over to the
Judicial Qualifications Board, and
it turned out that the following situation had taken place:
there was some kind of case,
and Alexandrova was putting pressure on her
fellow judge, saying that, well, there were
state interests involved,
and that she had to issue some kind of ruling in
favor of that company. And as the other judge herself said,
this second judge, Lady Agayeva,
said Alexandrova was trying to get from her
a favorable ruling on the claim, and at the same time
on a sheet of paper she wrote down the amount of the
reward as the number 60. We don’t know whether that was 60
thousand dollars or 60 million rubles, but
just think about it. First of all, this perfectly
shows how things really stand in
Russia’s supreme—or rather higher—courts.
Judges there are basically dealing with each other like,
like traffic cops, you know,
like, “So, Anatolich, what are we going to do here?”
“Well, I don’t know, maybe
let’s work something out,” and then he shows
something—say, a 5—just
writing numbers to each other on scraps of paper.
A “reward” means someone brought that money in,
and she was offering it to another judge. And she was simply
fired, do you understand? No criminal case,
no scandal, no one held her accountable
for anything. Just fired. You
get caught, while serving as a judge, effectively
offering a bribe to another judge, and
they just fire you. What could be
a more socially dangerous phenomenon than
a judge who is bought and corrupt,
so corrupt that she corrupts other
judges too, writing the size of the
reward on slips of paper? There is hardly
anything more dangerous. Even a serial killer
is less dangerous than corrupt judges. But even so,
they just, simply fired her, and that was the end of it.
So, just out of, you know,
interest, I’m going to file a complaint and demand that
these facts here—these very facts that
have been revealed—weren’t made up by me, and they weren’t
written by journalists. One judge
told the Judicial Qualifications Commission
about another judge. Excuse me, but
that is a serious crime—open
a criminal case. I’ll write to them myself and
see what happens.
Birsa Toriya writes to me:
“Can you talk about the second accident at Nor
Nickel in Krasnoyarsk Krai?” As I understand it,
what’s happening now is not that there has been a
second accident at Norilsk Nickel in Krasnoyarsk Krai,
—
but simply that the press is paying attention, and this is
an endless disaster that keeps happening at
Norilsk Nickel. It’s just that journalists have now started
writing about it, because every
week there’s some huge spill
of oil, diesel—well, not oil, diesel fuel,
some chemicals, and so on, because
the whole of Norilsk Nickel is basically one giant rusty
plant. When it was privatized, it
was a modern, excellent enterprise. It
brought in tens of billions of dollars
for Potanin, Prokhorov, and all the other
officials. It made everyone fantastically rich.
Yachts were bought, planes were bought, but not
a kopeck was invested back into it, so now it’s just
an endless expanse of rust, and people...
who are walking around filming us right now
they flooded us with videos, and that’s basically it somehow
everything is leaking and falling apart, and this isn’t the first time
look at what Norilsk
Nickel and the oligarch Potanin have brought things to
and I’ll repeat what I already said: I
believe that he, and Prokhorov as well, who
has already exited Norilsk Nickel
but nevertheless, they did this together
all of them should be stripped of their fortunes
for many, many years they made a great deal
of money; let them pay that
huge amount of money, or a significant part
of it, in order to
restore the surrounding environment and
rebuild this plant. Only in this way
can anything be done, but unfortunately as long as
Putin is in power, this won’t happen, because you
just send one truckload of money
to the Kremlin and that’s it — you buy, I don’t know,
new planes for Alina Kabaeva or Svetlana Medvedeva
and that’s how you solve your little problems
That’s exactly how it all works, that’s how everything
works.
Alexei, after swimming in the White Sea,
you prompted the authorities to focus on survival
in the Arctic — the so-called Arctic Hectare, a new
vision of Putin’s Russia. There really
is such a program, the Arctic Hectare
Before that there was the Far Eastern Hectare
program, which, it seems to me, was very
well conceived, but overall it did not
work very successfully.
Simply because of corruption. The idea is that
you can apply no matter where you
live — at first it was for residents of the Far East,
and then for all residents of Russia — and receive
a hectare of land there, in Ussuriysk
and now, presumably, it will be possible to get
a hectare of land in the Arctic, in Arkhangelsk
Region
or somewhere in the Komi Republic, something of that sort.
But it doesn’t work very well because
there are too many restrictions there, and you’re supposed to
receive it, and then after five years you’ll be able
to sell it. Why? Let people sell it right away.
One thing we certainly do have is plenty of land.
It needs to be brought into use, so it seems to me
that this program is the right idea, but it
needs to be implemented much more boldly,
of course, and all this enormous
amount of land should simply be given away
so that people use it in some way at least,
because nobody lives there, there are no
people there except for some
tiny pockets in the form of towns.
So this land simply needs to be brought
into use. Father Sergiy recorded
a video address. He’s a rather
aggressive priest — as you can see,
gray-haired, with a full beard, but
as I understand it, he’s actually a relatively young
man, and you’ve probably seen before
some of his statements, quite
aggressive and right-wing in tone, which he
made earlier. But now he has truly drawn
widespread attention to himself because
he was defrocked, and together with
some Cossacks (members of a traditional paramilitary social group) and a group of women, he seized
a convent, and they are holding
their ground there and, basically, attracting
media attention to themselves.
And in particular, this week he released
a rather absurd but striking
statement in which all sorts of things were mixed together:
some completely
antisemitic nonsense and attacks on
Putin and everything else under the sun. But this is very important.
This is not an entertainment video. Let’s
watch it — you can laugh at some of
it, of course,
but it is actually important in order
to capture
a very important phenomenon and, in fact, the consequences
of Putin’s policy of cultivating
such right-wing radicals. One minute and 45
seconds of Father Sergiy, who has weighed
Putin, found him wanting, and now demands
that Putin hand power over to him, in the name of the Father and
of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and
Dear fathers, brothers, and sisters, by the prayers of
the foremost apostles Peter and Paul,
I declare and propose to you, at the international
level,
that the President of Russia, Vladimir
Vladimirovich Putin, transfer his powers
to me, Schema-Hegumen Sergiy. In three days I will restore
order in Russia. You were given 20 years
to show who rules Russia. You, Mr.
President Vladimir Vladimir
and Patriarch Kirill Gundyayev
— all of you are hidden enemies of Russia. You have placed your flesh
above eternal life.
Lay down your powers, otherwise
you have been weighed and found wanting, and your days
are numbered. I await your repentance, together with
Patriarch Kirill Gundyayev, before me.
Tens of thousands come to me —
pensioners,
your fathers and mothers, whose pensions are five
times smaller than abroad and in the near abroad
— in Lithuania and Latvia
there pensions are up to 80,000 rubles (about the equivalent value in local currency),
and in Switzerland up to 200,000 rubles (about the equivalent value in local currency),
in countries that do not have as much wealth as
Russia.
People can barely make ends meet, and yet
Khabarovsk is prospering — that is your first
swallow (a first sign of things to come).
The swallows are already living all across Russia and
are even flying over the Kremlin.
I really liked this, this
particular phrase,
this cold turn of phrase: “weighed and found
wanting,” and the bit about the swallows in Khabarovsk. Why
is this important? Because Putin simply
has consistently pursued a policy of
strengthening right-wing radicals, and this was
His key idea was that there are certain
liberals running around
the streets of Moscow, and then there is the worker from Uralvagonzavod (a major Russian tank and railcar manufacturer)
who recorded videos saying, basically, “We’ll come ourselves,”
“and beat up the Muscovites,” and there were also some
priests who said, “Now we’re going to
deal with all those people over there dancing around,”
“we’ll crush them, in three days
we’ll restore order.” This was strengthening the right-wing
regime, and Putin really liked it, and he
would exclaim, “Oh, this is great,” and he gave them
airtime; he supported them in every possible way
because for some reason he thought that
these right-wing radicals, they, they
would always be fake. And I’m not even talking about
actual radicals here, but people
with right-wing views. But that Father Sergiy (a Russian Orthodox cleric), well,
he’s a typical person with right-
conservative views. There are plenty of people like that in
Russia, and there are plenty in America too—probably even more
than in Russia.
It seemed to Putin that this was very
useful: they would always be his toy, and
that this generalized “Father Sergiy” would always
be someone Putin could
put on display, and Father Sergiy would say,
“Yes, we’ll disperse all these people here, whether in
Khabarovsk or in Moscow. We’re for, for
Putin, for the Patriarch, for Shoigu, for Alina
Kabaeva, for the palaces, for Norilsk Nickel,”
but it turned out that no, they are not at all
necessarily fake right-wing
radicals. For years, they—and everyone else—were
told: “Guys, read the Bible, live according to
the Bible. Guys, read the Quran,” likewise
—and by the way, much more so in Dagestan (a republic in Russia’s North Caucasus),
for example—“Guys, read the Quran and live
according to the Quran.”
So a few years passed, and now
a huge number of people have appeared
who have raised their heads and said,
“We read the Quran and the Bible, and here
it says that people like you ought
to be thrown the hell out of the Kremlin altogether,”
“because here, in our holy
texts, it says that you are scoundrels, that
you are thieves,”
“that you are hypocrites, and the people of Khabarovsk
are right, and it says here that the poor
must be helped, and we don’t need your oligarchs.”
It’s just that Putin, since he himself is
of course an unbeliever, like the entire leadership
of the Russian Orthodox Church—they are unbelievers, absolutely
cynical people—it seemed to them that, since they had
this false patriotism and false
piety,
everyone else would have the same thing;
they would pretend that they
read the Bible and the Quran, but in reality they
would just be chasing money. But no—of course
some number of people
really did believe, or really did adopt
extremely reactionary positions, and now
even a reactionary—of course, I
understand that Father Sergiy, conditionally or literally,
doesn’t particularly
like, or doesn’t like at all,
Moscow liberals, and doesn’t like
certain
opposition figures like me—but even his
far-right position is absolutely
against Putin. They are all against them. And this
cultivated segment that they had nurtured,
that they had simply supported—like some kind of
“Surgeon,” remember him, that biker nicknamed Surgeon (Alexander Zaldostanov, leader of the pro-Kremlin Night Wolves), well,
he’s just some biker, not a real one,
a fake, a toy, living off
Putin’s payroll. But if you support people like that,
then sooner or later
the real ones will begin to rise up, and
the genuine ones will come out and say, “Well, so what
have you all been mumbling about so weakly?
You keep muttering something about
the need to restore order, so we
will come right now and restore order in three
days.” And for them, “restoring order”
means the following:
it consists of taking machine guns and
shooting everyone to hell right now, all of them.
And not just the
opposition figures,
but you too—all that Kremlin [__], we’ll
shoot you all, and the people of Khabarovsk are our
friends. This is the first swallow (a Russian idiom meaning the first sign of a coming change), a swallow
flying over the Kremlin. This is actually a very
important political process that
shows that Putin’s false position,
his hypocrisy, is finding less and less
support beneath it.
I mean, you can’t yet say, of course,
that the ground is slipping from under their feet, but
there is less and less of that ground,
and already even among the
radical right wing, among these kinds of
stern conservative men, you can no longer rely on them. And
look at how the army voted in the
last election.
If you look at the voting in closed
military towns, you will see that
the military voted for the constitutional amendments
less than anyone else—worse than ordinary
people, even in the Moscow region.
Take that same region: there are two places where support
for those amendments was at its
lowest.
One is Pushchino, a science town; obviously, there are
very smart people there, and they voted against them.
And the other is Krasnoznamensk, a closed military
town where my parents live, where
only military families live. These military people have had enough—right up to here,
you understand? Just like the workers at Uralvagonzavod.
They’ve had enough, just like Father Sergiy and all
the other people with conservative views.
They’ve had enough of Putin—right up to here. They can no longer
stand him, they don’t want to anymore. And that is why they are now already
speaking out against him directly. This is
actually very interesting, what
is happening, and it shows precisely that
Well, you simply can't sincerely
how to put it correctly, the sincere
passion, the sincere faith of people, you can't
always control it. Go and look
at the same Instagram pages and
public groups in Dagestan, where very
conservative people really do
hang out—right-wing conservatives there absolutely tear into
Putin in a way that no
liberal could even dream of, because
if you're a person with conservative, right-wing
views and you live according to Islam, then you
ought to hate this government with every
fiber of your being—and they do, of course.
And Putin and the new leadership of the ROC (Russian Orthodox Church) want
to cultivate an absolutely
loyal, bootlicking church, or
bootlicking so-called conservatives, one
of whose symbols became a completely
astonishing priest from Belarus, where
exactly the same process is underway. And the video
was shared widely by many people. It really
made a big impression on me at first.
At first glance, here's a priest, supposedly trying to sort things out,
after all—a Russian man in a cassock,
a person who is presumed to be
a believer and therefore ought to speak on
the side
of his faith, on the side of his
parishioners—and instead he is simply leading
Christianity into the police van, literally
explaining that, from the point of view of faith,
the Bible, and Christ, a police van is a great
thing. Let's listen to 1 minute and 50
seconds. And now let's think
about how humble and meek we are in our
lives. Right now elections are coming up, and
many people come to me in horror
telling me that police vans are out on the streets,
snatching up people who want to express
their position, and throwing them in prison. They ask:
what, then, does Holy
Scripture say about police vans?
The Epistle to the Romans says:
the authority is God's servant
for your good. But if you do wrong,
then be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. The sword—
that means all those measures that are taken
in order to stop the lawless person. He,
that is, the representative of authority, is a servant
of God. Why are we surprised?
Wasn't it Christ who appointed him
as an instrument of His wrath against the one who does evil?
Or, in my translation: they are servants
of God and act for your good, but if you
do evil, then be afraid. So who
should fear the police van? The one who does
evil.
As for me, thank God,
I haven't ended up in a police van in the last 40 years,
well, I haven't managed to turn words into deeds
in such a way that
I would interfere with society's life. But there are
people who don't understand their own
behavior, and for them there are
such measures. What's so surprising about that?
There you have it: an ultra-servile lackey in a cassock comes out and
says that Jesus Christ is in favor of the police van. There are
many like that, of course, many in the ROC, but not all
can be like that, and these people hold
rather exotic and very often
completely unacceptable views.
But nevertheless, this shows that on the
right, things have completely ceased to be what they once were.
By the way, here's a question I get asked:
"Gamarjoba (Georgian for 'hello'), tell us about the criminal
prosecution of Spartak fans for
seeing off the team and blocking an empty
road a few years ago." All these
football clubs and fan firms also
used to be a stronghold of support for the authorities; fans were very often
hired to attack the opposition and so
on. Now they are genuinely among the most persecuted
groups in society, considering the very real
police repression. No opposition
activists experience the kind of
pressure that fans do—
Spartak fans and fans of many other teams. People are genuinely
being beaten; it's just total lawlessness, and
no one stands up for them, simply
no one. A few years ago, I no longer
remember whether it was Volgograd, there was a video
showing them being beaten with electric shock devices
just for walking along, and they were simply
being attacked by riot police. I filed a complaint
and demanded that at least that one incident be investigated. I am
quite far removed from all of this, and
that's why I suddenly discovered that I was, like,
the only person standing up
for them, for all of them. And even now, very few
people speak up or even know about it. But
football fans are simply being crushed,
jailed; they have no rights there.
Apartments are broken into, searches are carried out, and
well, that is also a fairly
conservative part of the population. These are also
people who are most often right-leaning, people with right-wing
views. The authorities hate them and fear them even
more—just as they fear Father Sergius.
I was asked about this earlier; the question was
how the case of the shaman differs from the case
of Father Sergius. The difference is that
there is one shaman, and there are rather few shamans in Russia,
whereas priests with views like this
Sergius are quite numerous, because they have been
cultivated in recent years. That is,
of course they will now try to
discredit him, imprison him, imprison the people
around him if necessary, and then
what happens next—no one knows how many such people will harbor
resentment, how many people will stand up for him.
No one understands this at all, and
here the authorities will have to crack down on
and jail people whom they have always
supported absolutely, directly.
Back then, their cannibalistic views
didn't bother the authorities at all—on the contrary,
it seemed great when they said that
Let's, like, go after those Pussy Riot people there.
Let's shoot them and torture them too, and...
When they... let's...
Let's shoot them, torture them, and while we're at it...
Maybe we should shoot everyone in the Kremlin too...
Hang them and torture them right away.
stopped liking it.
Lev... Voloshin, Voloshin is asking.
Alexei will tell us what happened at the hearing.
As for Ruslan's case... yesterday I...
got back from Arkhangelsk in the evening, and
the trip was successful in the sense that
for the first time in seven years, we finally managed
to see Ruslan—someone other than
the military was able, for the first time in four months,
to speak with him, exchange some
messages, and generally find out what was happening to him,
because
before that, we truly had no idea at all
where the guy was. I mean, we knew that he had been
taken away somewhere, and that he was serving somewhere
near a nuclear test site, and that he was located
in a place with absolutely no communications at all. That is,
even if he had a mobile
phone, it wouldn't work there.
There are no towns nearby, and getting there
is impossible by any means of transport except
a military helicopter—there's nothing else. But
for several months, we methodically
filed motions in court demanding that he be
brought in, and finally it happened. We
saw him and at least learned how
he is living. Ruslan is keeping his spirits up.
There's a four-minute video where I did a kind of
short interview on the
Navalny LIVE channel—you can watch it.
Let me show you 23 seconds of it.
The general idea is that
Ruslan, despite everything, talks about it rather
cheerfully, but in fact it's all quite
sad. Here's a minute and a half of the video.
This is where I live. Now please explain:
I heard you're living in a barrel—is that literally true?
A real, physical barrel?
Are there beds in it? Say that again—a barrel?
Like Diogenes lived in? What does it look like?
And your barrel—is it really just a barrel?
A literal barrel. There's nothing there.
It's like a huge tank—like an old fuel or kvass container.
Well, it's a very large barrel that used to hold
kvass, basically. I also
showed a couple of other guys' places too.
to me.
And around it—around the barrel—what is there?
Nothing at all.
The sea, mountains, and that's it—no real facilities.
There are some structures, and helicopters come in, but not much else.
Where do you get... where do you get
water? We go about two
kilometers (1.2 miles) for it.
Every three days.
We have a large container here,
and we go with buckets to fill it up.
That's our drinking water.
What's the nearest populated place?
About 270 kilometers (168 miles) away.
There are polar bears there too. They said they often have to
keep watch around this
barrel.
Recently, one of them started
hanging around there all the time—apparently because of fish.
There was fish there, and it came for
it.
Where do you get food? Once a month,
they drop it off to us from above—basically
without landing.
They send canned food, flour, sacks of things, and all that.
That sort of thing.
If you start googling nuclear
tests on Novaya Zemlya (a Russian Arctic archipelago), you'll
definitely come across this well-known fact:
that this is where they tested the so-called
Tsar Bomba—the largest
bomb ever detonated by
humanity—something like 58 or
100 megatons. And this is the very test site where that Tsar
Bomba was tested.
bomb.
If you want to know where Ruslan is living,
the bank employee who was abducted
and has now simply been isolated,
it's right there—not on the test site itself, but
at the nearest point to that nuclear site.
I think it's literally about 50
kilometers (31 miles) away.
It's right next to him, and we can't even
get a clear answer or understand what
the radiation level is there, because the answer is always:
"You know, the radiation level there
is
lower than in Moscow." But who measured it?
Who took those measurements?
Could they at least give him a dosimeter so he could check?
No—nothing is allowed, absolutely nothing.
And in that sense, of course, this is
a lawless situation,
orchestrated, of course, by the leadership
of the Ministry of Defense.
He was transferred to this site because he was
appointed diesel operator at a radio post.
To appoint some ordinary private as a diesel operator there—
well, clearly that would normally be decided at most by
the unit commander.
But he was assigned there by personal order
of the deputy army commander,
Major General Tseluy, who is stationed
2,000 kilometers (1,243 miles) away from that place,
at headquarters. He
personally appoints Ruslan as a diesel operator there.
It's clearly a refined form of abuse.
It's cold in that barrel, there's condensation inside, and
water is constantly dripping onto your head.
It's endless. I separately asked him
to record a bit about this part specifically,
because it's not in the video you've already seen—so that he could
explain about the water, because I was struck by that.
At the hearing, the judge said, "You know,
well, first of all, guys, of course he..."
soldier
But there are only five soldiers and officers living there in total.
Just five people: three soldiers and two officers.
They are supposed to be guaranteed basic civilian
rights, and that includes
access to drinking water, among other things.
When your servicemen—officers and
soldiers—are drinking melted snow or hauling water
from a river, that is not how
the Russian army is supposed to function. Let’s
watch a minute and a half where Ruslan
explains specifically how they have to
get water. Please, tell us—how is it there?
There’s no drinking water there, so now, in the
warmer season, relatively speaking, we walk two
kilometers to the local river and fill up
three one-liter canteens and carry them back.
We bring them back to our shelter, and that lasts us about three
days. —Where to? —To the stash, the shelter.
There’s a big, big barrel there where we all
store it.
It holds 200 liters, but at one time we can
fill about 150 liters. We don’t drink that water;
we use it to wash ourselves and cook with it.
That is, it’s our only source
of water. And in winter, when I arrived there,
there was a lot of snow.
In case anyone doesn’t know, everything there is like that,
because the river is frozen, so you have to gather
and cut out chunks of snow for yourself.
You carry them to the barrel and melt them down until
enough builds up—basically, that’s your water for
washing, brushing your teeth, and cooking. We
cook using melted snow.
Of course, the first time I saw that, I thought: no way, that can’t be real.
But then—what else can you do?
There’s no water. That’s how it was in the summer, and
now we go to the river and collect water
there. Right now it’s about a kilometer away.
You haul 50 liters somehow, barely managing.
It’s just—I don’t know how to explain it to someone in a city.
Walking 2 kilometers with water—you see, I’m walking
thinking I’ll never drink water carelessly again,
so that it never runs out. But there
you have to—it sounds like something out of a survival movie.
Like DiCaprio in *The Revenant*—he was just surviving out there.
Honestly, it really is survival.
Because if you remember that scene—
he’s crawling through the snow,
he fought off a bear—but that’s nothing compared to
dragging the last chunks of snow when you’re exhausted.
It may sound wild, but it’s really hard there.
Right now we go as far as a kilometer for water.
As you can see, he’s clearly not losing his spirit.
He hasn’t lost it, and he tells it all
almost humorously—but this is real,
these are torture conditions, simply torture
conditions. On top of that, the person is being directly
threatened: if you do not withdraw
your lawsuits, things will get worse for you. He is being tortured
through sleep deprivation. He is assigned to duties
where he has to stand there for two days
in a row, which is directly prohibited, but they
do it like this: you stand there and are left for a full day,
and then after 23 hours they say, all right,
go sleep.
You sleep for two hours, then they wake you up again
and tell you to go back on duty for another 24 hours.
This is outright torture by
sleep deprivation. I also asked the judge that all of this
be formally recorded. They issued
a special ruling. Of course, we are not going to
just let all this go, because
this is abuse of our people
and, incidentally, of other servicemen
who are there absolutely without
any rights. And besides,
you know, talking about some kind of great
army and
our wonderful officers when, when
they are drinking melted snow is simply
absurd. Meanwhile, Shoigu (former Russian defense minister) is doing just fine—he
is a billionaire, his relatives are billionaires,
all the deputy defense ministers there are
among the richest people—billions are being
spent on that cathedral they built
in the Moscow region,
while somewhere on Novaya Zemlya (Russian Arctic archipelago), someone is hauling on his
back, uphill, concrete
and 50 liters of water because they simply
have nothing else to drink. So, anyway,
write letters.
Write to Videnny and to Artyom Ivanov, who was
also abducted in exactly the same way. We are now
talking about the secretary of the Doctors’ Alliance (a Russian labor union/activist group), who was taken to Chukotka,
and about Konovalov, who is also
somewhere in a training unit in Arkhangelsk.
Then they distribute them farther out. This is also a very obvious
and, by the way, one hundred percent
copy of the system from Belarus, in which
opposition activists
under 27 are simply abducted
and taken away somewhere. And that’s exactly what happened with Konovalov
and, as you can see in the photos, both of them were taken
somewhere far to the north, just like that.
They take you away, and when you show them your documents,
your papers—whether you are fit or unfit—nobody
cares at all. Ivanov has had
asthma since first grade, and he shouldn’t have been there at all.
He should not have been in Chukotka, and when
they were taking him there, he said: Guys, I have
all the documents, I’m unfit, I have asthma.
They said: Look, headquarters says here that you’re fit. Goodbye,
you’re flying to Chukotka. That’s how
the whole system works. And to wrap up, to wrap up,
about this Arkhangelsk tour of mine—there was an amusing
situation that perfectly shows
what the United Russia party is, and why
it needs to be fought. There, in one district, there was
some kind of mini-
scandal unfolding because
a City Duma deputy, Valentina
Surova, from United Russia, and as a result of some kind of
apparently internal
conflict within United Russia,
someone filed a lawsuit over whether
she could even legally be a deputy at all, and
whether she actually has a higher-education diploma.
the education credentials need to be checked, and during
the court hearing it emerged that this
person did not even have a complete secondary school
education. You know, it’s like in *Heart of a Dog*
(*Heart of a Dog*, a famous satirical novella by Mikhail Bulgakov).
Excuse me, but when did he ever serve in
sanitation? The person was the leader of the city branch
of United Russia with a fake higher-education diploma
and without any
evidence that she had even simply finished school.
And yet, you know what kind of annual declaration she has?
What an annual declaration.
80 million rubles in property (about US$1.1 million) and a house
in Cyprus. That’s how United Russia works.
You don’t need anything at all there. You can be
the dumbest person in the world
and not even have a school
education, but if you join this wonderful
party, you’ll get a job and you’ll have a house in
Cyprus and 80 million rubles (about US$1.1 million) in
family income. That, of course,
makes an impression. They kicked her out for now,
and we’ll see how the situation develops from here.
76,000 people are watching the Smart
live stream. Ask your questions about
Belarus—you’ve absolutely flooded me
with questions, of course, about what’s
happening there. What’s happening there, guys, is our
future. Look at what’s happening there
and understand:
we all need to understand that this exact same thing
will happen in Russia
if we do not, if we do not
go out into the streets, if we stay silent.
Because there too, things were pushed to this point. After all,
people tried to come out, and they were dispersed.
It’s frightening, you don’t want to go out again, and
it’s dangerous. But the only alternative is that
everything will just keep getting worse and worse and worse.
And when we see
well, what is happening right now
in Minsk—like that police officer who
runs out and starts, I don’t know, beating
people—it really looks like some kind of
fascist operation already.
They’re simply beating people there. Let’s watch 16
seconds of what was happening on the streets of
Minsk.
[music]
[applause]
At this point, they’re not even really detaining people there anymore—
they jump out of the vehicle first and
simply beat people.
Why are they beating people? Because
there is a political crisis. Lukashenko and Putin
run into a political crisis, and
the only response to that political
crisis is what? To beat people. Because
this kind of operation can be based
exclusively on fear—on taking
a relatively small number of
police officers and having them beat a relatively
small, still limited number of people, but
to intimidate and terrorize a very
large number of people. So that is why
power in all
authoritarian countries—Russia,
Belarus, anywhere—rests only on that. Well, of course.
I very much want
to emphasize first and foremost: they are trying to frighten people.
And of course there are these truly outstanding
examples—Stas Mikhailov, the Russian singer. But my God,
it was disgusting to watch. He
came to Minsk and has now, obviously,
been paid for publicly
supporting Alexander Lukashenko. Let’s
watch 38 seconds of how this [__]
literally runs off the stage to hug him and
earn his pathetic dollars. 38
seconds of shameful Stas Mikhailov.
Good evening, Alexei. Unwelcoming
Belarus—but I also must
say, may I come over to you?
Greetings, good evening to all of you.
Thank you for inviting me, thank you that we have such
celebrations. Don’t forget
Russian artists. You create such
beauty. Thank you, health and blessings to you.
Thank you, thank you for such celebrations
that bring three countries together
here, and people sing. Thank you.
Let’s celebrate this event today.
I’ll set the example—let’s sing together.
The rain is no obstacle, let’s try.
So, in other words, absolutely vile
toadying—which, as we can see, by the way,
is no longer especially effective. There he is,
Mikhailov, coming out in his little yellow suit,
saying, “Let’s hug, thank you,” but we
can see there is no particular support
left anymore. It’s all utterly disgusting, so
what gets used is
the only possible mechanism, namely:
not allowing people onto the ballot. And Viktor
Babariko, who is, well, judging by
some polls, the leader of the race—there
was a lot of intrigue over whether he
would be registered. In the end, no—he was removed.
They stated that he was being removed, that he was
removed not only because
he had foreign financing, but also because
he is allegedly the head of an
organized criminal group. Let’s
watch one minute.
Babariko directly created
and led the activities of an organized
criminal group made up of former and
current executives of
Belgazprombank.
Its members registered, in
the offshore jurisdiction of the British
Virgin Islands, with accounts in banks in
Cyprus as well as other countries, a network
of controlled so-called shell
companies. In addition to the above,
the State Control Committee
has reliable information about
facts involving the use by Babariko...
by a person being nominated as a presidential candidate
foreign financial assistance and so on
after the official dismissal from
the position of chairman of the management board
Belgazprombank, as well as after
the registration of the initiative group for
nomination for election as a candidate in
the interests of the election campaign
the latter used material and
other resources of the said bank. For reference,
this bank is more than 99 percent
owned by two shareholders: Gazprom
of the Russian Federation and Gazprombank
that is, it is almost entirely a foreign
enterprise
So you see, this is not even a court anymore, and yes,
not even the prosecutor's office alone — it’s just
this woman from the election commission, or I don’t even
know who she is — she just comes out and says
you know, this candidate
was supposed to be registered, but
I am informing you that he is the leader of an
organized criminal group
a bandit, and according to information from some kind of
oversight body
he possesses some kind of property, that’s it, and
they simply did not allow you onto the ballot, and you were
just declared, without any
evidence, without any trial
without anything at all — some woman with a
piece of paper declared you the leader of an
organized criminal group, but they
might even execute him tomorrow there in
Belarus — the death penalty still exists there
They can do absolutely anything, as long as
they keep him off the ballot and just
keep people in this kind of fear
of total shock, because on the one hand
people are actually being beaten in the streets, and on the other hand
people are watching all this lawlessness, but
it’s impossible to live with this lawlessness, because, well, how can you
they just take any person and accuse them
of any crimes whatsoever, completely
at random. This Baryiko was not allowed onto the
ballot. Valery Tsepkalo was also one of the three
candidates who enjoyed
broad support, and he too was barred from the election
on the grounds that, supposedly, there were not enough signatures
So far, only Sviatlana
Tsikhanouskaya has been registered
Well, we’ll see how the situation
develops further, but the most important thing
that happened today is that the campaign teams of
Tsikhanouskaya, Babaryka, and Tsepkalo
have united to continue the
struggle. This is a great photograph
of the wives of the unregistered candidates
and the arrested candidate — they have united
This really is a very good
and beautiful photograph
It has simply become a symbol of what is happening
Already there, the men are being jailed, and the wives
who were not used to being involved in politics are now — well,
of course, right now one really wants
to support all Belarusians, all
the candidates — really, just all the people
who are demanding some kind of justice
and hoping for something fair, well
sooner or later, I am sure, they will achieve
their justice, because, well
it is impossible — they are being beaten in the streets now
for absolutely no reason
Why are these people being barred from the election?
Simply because they do not want to let them in, that’s all
Instead of everything real and alive, they want to
show this clown, Stas Mikhailov (a Russian pop singer)
who was given a couple of bundles of cash and then
comes out and says, “Oh, let me kiss you all”
Nobody likes that
But people are being jailed and beaten, so, well
I support all the decent
good people in Belarus, and of course I want
to express my support for them
Alexei, a bill has been introduced in the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament)
providing for fines of up to 15 million rubles (about 15 million RUB)
for refusing to remove information
from websites. Alexei, do you think this
is connected to the refusal to remove the film *He Is Not Dimon to You*?
Of course, yes, absolutely, it is
another bill aimed directly at
the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation). Just today there was another
court hearing involving Zhdanov
Tomorrow there will be another hearing; he is already being
held criminally liable
for refusing to remove the film
*He Is Not Dimon to You*, which he cannot remove
because it is on my blog
and we are not removing any
of our investigations at all, I’m not
Guys, these fines are completely insane
This is directly connected. Andrei Fadina
asks: “Alexei, please comment on
the Kremlin’s reaction to the rallies in Khabarovsk”
What is happening really is very, very
interesting, and the Kremlin’s reaction
is quite panicked, and we
all understand why, because
what is happening in Khabarovsk
has undoubtedly come as a complete shock to
everyone, probably except the residents of Khabarovsk themselves
because something
completely unique has happened, after all
Previously, the arrest of a governor was a kind of
regular Putin trick to boost
his ratings, because, well, everyone knows
that all officials in our country are crooks
And of course, under Putin’s system, a senior
official cannot help but be a thief
so let’s arrest
a governor and raise Putin’s approval rating
Let’s say that we found this and that
on the governor, the deputy governor, the minister
some money, and the ratings also
go up, and then you can say, “See,
at last a real fight against
corruption has begun,” but here they ran into
a brick wall with Furgal, and now it is already completely
obvious that they simply made up some kind of super-
They say the most horrific crimes happened there.
That he killed a whole lot of people, and the residents
of Khabarovsk said, “Sorry, but no. We’re not”
buying any of this. First of all, we don’t
believe it, and second, show us some kind of
evidence.” And to this day, there is still no
evidence. You know, the trial over Furgal (former governor of Khabarovsk Krai)
is being held behind closed doors. And why is that?
What is this, a spy trial? Some kind of
secret witnesses? These murders supposedly happened 15 years ago.
There is not a single reason
why. Murder trials in Russia
take place in every court, three a day
sometimes. Unfortunately, there is a lot of lawlessness in Russia,
but here it turns out that everything
has to be closed off because the evidence
isn’t there. There is no evidence at all. That’s why in
Khabarovsk
people really did rise up, and it was unique.
It looked like they were standing up for an official, for a governor, but in essence
of course they were standing up for their own rights, for their right
to their own lives. Because they had defeated a United Russia candidate,
and then a United Russia man came in and, by other means,
tried to break everyone and tried
to force them.
But even so, people took to the
streets because they saw not just
a slightly different type of politician. Furgal,
an LDPR representative (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia), from what is probably
the most cowardly and corrupt party there is, but he was
somehow a little different. And people noticed
with what pleasure, and with what
shock, everyone is now sharing
videos of Furgal, and it becomes clear
why people support him. Well, because
he simply wasn’t such an
brazen, shameless face like all the others. One of
his videos, where he talks about
school lunches, shows him speaking simply like
a normal person. At 0:54, he says:
“What, have you all lost your minds? Don’t you understand? These are
our children. What money? How much are we spending
on meals
for low-income and large-family children? 106
million rubles a year (about $1.1 million). And what happens if
the parents can’t pay the extra amount?
Where does that compensation go? Tea and a bun? 11
billion rubles (about $120 million) we spend on ourselves,”
“and for the child, just part of a bun? Aren’t you
ashamed? First of all, let’s cut
everyone’s bonuses. If we don’t have money, we have no
right today
to pay such salaries to deputies,
officials, and everyone else. If parents can’t
pay, then we will pay
for the meals.”
And that’s what they jailed him for. The most extremist thing
he said was simply repeating exactly what
absolutely everyone says. If you
can’t buy a child tea, a bun, and
I don’t know, maybe a bowl of soup, then maybe
you shouldn’t be buying a car
for 7 million rubles (about $77,000). Maybe then
you shouldn’t be flying business class.
These aren’t huge sacrifices, and absolutely
everyone says this. But then a man whom
people elected governor comes out and says it all
out loud, and Putin and all of United Russia are
simply furious because the people
say, “Well, good for him, he said exactly
what we’ve been saying.” Let’s listen
to what he says about the problem of logging.
There’s endless
waffling on about it:
they keep saying everything is being cut down and shipped to China, but then
the governor comes out and says simple,
ordinary, human words: “Wonderful.
You live there, and they came in and cut everything down,
wrecked the hills and the lake, and there’s no one responsible?”
“No, you’re mistaken. We’re creating a commission. All
the relevant agencies, including
the Ministry of Natural Resources,
the forestry administration, units of
the security department,
as well as federal bodies that oversee
forest use,
are planning to go out there together with equipment,
with technical tools, in order to assess
the clear-cutting that was carried out, and
also to
take water samples to determine how badly
it has been polluted. Who signed the permit
for the logging? Who? Who actually signed
the permit? The entire forestry administration signed it.”
“What do you mean, the forestry administration?”
“Forestry administration isn’t a surname. I want the names of specific people.”
And this concerns not only this one place.
That’s why I gave the order: not a single
cubic meter of timber
from so-called sanitary logging is to be sold
to God knows whom anymore.”
You can call this
populism or whatever you like. You could
say he’s just performing for the camera,
playing the role of a tough governor.
But he was saying basic
things that every one of us
repeats. At Putin’s meetings, it’s always:
“Well, something was cut down, some agency is to blame.”
Yes, the agency is to blame. Well then, let’s
conduct an additional review, let’s
issue instructions to look into it.” But here
the whole country looks at this and says:
“What is there to look into? Sure, let’s
look into it, but there’s already some
person who signed all of this, and he and
his boss took money for that signature.”
Everyone understands that, including children.
At Putin’s level, and at all the other
levels of United Russia, it’s obvious that they
didn’t take money for this one thing, they took it for that, and we took it
for this—what’s the point of splitting hairs?
“Let’s issue instructions.” Then those instructions
go under supervision, and later are taken off
supervision, someone writes up a piece of paper, and
it all ends in nothing. But then Furgal comes out
and says: “Don’t talk nonsense. There’s a surname, there’s a name,”
“and I forbid timber from being sold through”
about so-called sanitary logging, and people look at that
and say: that's right,
right, we voted out the United Russia candidate,
that's the main message being heard in
Khabarovsk
and the Kremlin really doesn't like it: people
voted out the United Russia candidate and saw that it
was absolutely the right thing to do. Then
they jailed the man who beat the United Russia candidate, and now everyone
is already coming out with political slogans, and
this panicked reaction from the Kremlin
is connected precisely to the fact that the main
slogan heard on the streets of Khabarovsk
is what you're about to hear in
these 27 seconds.
[applause]
There's none of that anymore—none of this 'let's'
'get on our knees before Putin,' or
'let's appeal to him, let's ask,'
'let's do something'—there's nothing like that
even close to it anymore. What is happening there is a purely
political understanding, a citywide awareness
of how this system works. And in response to Putin's
statement that Furgal is a criminal, they
chant: 'Putin is a criminal himself.'
'Putin is a thief himself,' and they are chanting slogans
that used to be chanted
only by human rights activists. For a week now, all of Khabarovsk
has been coming out to rallies every single day,
blocking roads and chanting for a fair
trial. Let's listen to 40 seconds
of chanting, when all the residents—just ordinary
people—are chanting for an honest court.
[applause]
[applause]
And this is already day 16, meaning
this is not the first day of protest, when on
Saturday there was an enormous number of people.
This is truly the biggest demonstration
in the entire history of the Russian Far East.
Probably—probably nothing like this
happened even during the war or the revolution;
never before has there been a gathering of people this large,
protesting and making political
demands. There simply has never been anything like it—not in
Vladivostok, not in Khabarovsk before,
in fact nowhere in the entire Far East has there ever been
such a number of people.
Interestingly, even the police there
reported 12,000 people, although
there were far more.
And when the federal authorities found out,
they chewed out the local police, like, 'Why did you give such
a high number?' But it was simply impossible
to hide it. It would be like if in Moscow
600,000 or 700,000 people came out
into the streets—really.
An extraordinary rally. And what's more, this
isn't just in Khabarovsk—Khabarovsk,
Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Vanino, the settlement of
Vanino—here are 30 seconds of what those rallies look like.
[music]
[music]
[music]
That's why the Kremlin is in shock. Go on,
now try saying they're all 'liberals'
or that they're all bought off by someone, or that they were
bused in. Of course, they started saying that
right away—naturally, the talking points
were immediately circulated.
First they said our штаб (campaign headquarters) organized everything, then
they started saying that the rallies in
Khabarovsk
were made up of workers bused in from the Amurstal plant,
which belongs to Furgal, or Furgal's
people. A well-known internet propagandist
started pushing that line, but
they didn't even check that Amurstal
is located in Komsomolsk-on-Amur,
a couple hundred kilometers away from all this.
But even that doesn't work, because there are
so many people there. And when you just see
ordinary people walking down the roads, it doesn't
look at all like some Moscow liberals
who got carried away, or members of Navalny's
headquarters. The overwhelming majority of the people
who are taking to the streets in Khabarovsk
and other cities in the Far East
have never in their lives watched any of my
programs. They're just ordinary people who
right now
are simply standing up for what they believe is right. They
live very far away, and there has always been
this sense that they are separate,
and then there is this other Russia—a Russia that
has basically abandoned them and, of course, does not help
them at all.
But then that United Russia, that rest of
Russia, comes in and devours your
governor, and people take to the streets
simply to say: 'Have you completely lost it?
Because we get nothing here,
our salaries are tiny,
we are far from Moscow, we derive absolutely no
benefit, none of the fruits
of our natural resources, and on top of that
you came and took the man we elected—you
just brazenly, lawlessly stole him away and took him
to Moscow, and now you're trying him behind closed doors, accusing him
of murdering people. Well, it's obvious that
now you're going to lock him up for 25 years
or even give him life for some
made-up murders that nobody has
seen and that no one will be shown.' That's why the Kremlin is
in shock. Of course, they are trying various tricks. First of all, they are putting pressure on the LDPR
(Liberal Democratic Party of Russia), and
because they forced it
to issue a statement saying that, well,
they are against certain protest actions;
they don't object to some things, but they have already
put Furgal, of course, in a very vulnerable
position. He's sitting in a cell, and they
can do anything they want to him. And of course
someone is going to him right now, I think, at this
very moment, and explaining: 'Dear
Governor, choose: either right now we
give you 15 years for these invented murders,
or, if people don't...'
they’ll disperse, and you’ll keep supporting them, you...
you’ll get 25 years, or maybe you’ll just...
one day
slip in that cell, damn it,
fall headfirst into a noose and hang yourself, or...
your veins will somehow get slit, or something else will happen.
So of course they’ve already backed him into a corner, and his whole...
team there is being intimidated, arms are being twisted,
they’re being pressured and forced
to make statements saying that they do not...
they thank people for some things, but say everything must stay within the law.
Let’s listen to this 30-second clip.
Furgal’s representative
Sergei Walter said he has absolutely nothing to do
with those demonstrations by residents
of Khabarovsk Krai (a region in Russia), his voters there. And so he...
thanks them, but today he stated in court
that he does not approve of these mass
protests, since he is the governor of the region
and believes that his voters should
conduct themselves within the bounds of current
legislation. Well of course—how else could you...
approve of them if you could actually be
stabbed to death in your cell the next day if...
you say, “Guys in Khabarovsk, thank you...”},{
keep coming out.” But fortunately in...
people in Khabarovsk already understand everything anyway, but...
they understand perfectly well that he can’t say anything
so they keep coming out, and...
they’re absolutely right to do so.
Of course, there’s a difficult problem there right now.
Because, as usual, these rallies
begin—as they did for us in 2012—and then what?
What is this supposed to end with? They shouldn’t...
just keep growing; they shouldn’t...
storm the administration building and the Kremlin?
That’s what they’re waiting for. Of course, they’d love to simply
fly in some OMON riot police
and disperse everyone.
Because sure, you can disperse 20,000 people there,
20,000 people,
but what if tomorrow 80,000 people come out and they
smash everything there to hell
and back? What if they simply
take over the airport and don’t allow
any riot police to fly in, because there
people have genuinely risen up—it’s real
people.
No matter how much all this very
ridiculous
Kremlin propaganda lies about how, supposedly,
I received a million euros to organize
these rallies in Khabarovsk,
it only works against the Kremlin.
Because people in Khabarovsk
look at all this and they genuinely
get furious, because they most likely have no idea who
Navalny is and probably
haven’t even heard of him, but they know why they are coming out.
They know why their neighbor is coming out, but...
then some Kremlin gang, I don’t know,
some lapdog journalist paid next to nothing,
Oleg Lurie,
puts out a whole “investigation” claiming that
all of this was done with money from
Western sponsors. Let’s watch this—
9 seconds. And one more point:
Khabarovsk, Khabarovsk Krai,
is now being used
also to demonstrate to their Western
handlers—investors, sponsors, rather, not
investors but sponsors—they’re using it to
show them: “Look, guys, what we
can do. Elections are just around the corner, we’ll give them...
...all of this.” It’s muscle-flexing.
Even the opposition is demonstrating to its
masters, to all kinds of success stories and foundations:
“Give us money, look how great we are,”
“look what we can do, how we can stir things up.”
Now it’s September—any fool will believe it and give them money.
They believe it and give, because it’s such a nicely drawn
picture: people, demonstrations, all of this,
the transformation of a governor who is a murderer
—an alleged murderer—into a political
prisoner. Naturally, they
are demonstrating strength and asking for
big money.” Of course, all of this works
against the Kremlin, but they simply don’t know how
to do anything else. All they know how to do is
simply disperse people—which in Khabarovsk
is a bit scary for them.
Fake trials, which also won’t work in Khabarovsk
right now. That’s why they
took Furgal away
to Moscow. And then there’s just endless lying.
So they lie like this, and the whole Far
East and all of Khabarovsk are watching and saying:
“You Moscow thugs, damn it, you’re just...
lying. I’m going out, my neigh—what
Western sponsors? What foundations? What are you
even talking about?” That’s what people are saying. That’s exactly why
they are not leaving.
They’ve already stayed on the streets for 6 days, because
it’s impossible to put up with these lies. Everyone knows
why each person in Khabarovsk Krai is coming out.
Everyone knows that this video I showed you
last time—the audio, basically—
yes, in the rest of Russia, in
Moscow, people didn’t know about it, they hadn’t
known about it before. But in Khabarovsk Krai
everyone knew perfectly well, because the campaign
against Furgal has been going on for several
months, and they’ve been pressuring him because his
approval rating is higher than Putin’s. Let’s listen again
to these 50–55 seconds, which
perfectly explain why this man is now
sitting in prison on murder charges. What
is happening today is already beyond the pale,
honestly—simply beyond even
the bounds of reason. They’ve simply started to
destroy the ratings—the ratings of the authorities,
the rating of the government, the rating of the president.
And they’re doing it deliberately, properly,
professionally—people brought in from
Moscow. And anyway, I didn’t quite understand...
that he isn’t interfering, because you
said that a movement is being formed: “Let’s defend
the governor.” So the population is defending you...
Wouldn't you like to see what's happening—you and...
Well, that's because people are coming...
Just a second, because if you look at the numbers, the story...
looks very...
the burden on the president's approval rating...
is falling, and accordingly anyone seeing such a...
policy—not me, not Reksane, not Alexander...
or anyone else. Though, as you heard, the presidential envoy...
Trutnev spoke a bit ironically...
saying, here it is, the “Let's Defend...” movement
the Governor” movement. But now, probably,...
they're no longer speaking ironically, after he saw...
the real thousands of people who are coming out and...
defending themselves. What should the residents...
of Khabarovsk do? People in Khabarovsk...
and the Khabarovsk region must not give up; they need to...
look for other forms as well, maybe...
a strike. Actually, it would be great to...
try at least a one-day...
citywide, regionwide walkout...
a strike, or some other formats...
to try, because Putin, obviously...
what he's doing is waiting for everything to...
run out of steam. It's simply impossible to keep...
going out into the streets forever: you go out once, you go out...
twice, you go out 22 times...
but then people seem to get tired of it. The example of Shiyes...
shows perfectly that people went out there...
again and again; it seemed hopeless, and already...
it all looked marginal, like some kind of...
tent camp. By the way, I...
spoke there a bit with the defenders of...
Shiyes; they told me how...
hard, difficult, and unbearable it was—everyone was already...
tired of defending it, and it seemed...
pointless. But still, they stood there, and...
they achieved their goal anyway. That's why people very often...
write to me asking why you can't take...
the leading role there, your headquarters. But we...
can't, because we can't be...
more Catholic than the Pope. In any case...
there is Furgal.
If we jump in there now, then...
they'll force him to howl and say that...
you know, first of all, I am of course...
outraged that Navalny is doing something there...
in the Khabarovsk region. I want to say that...
this is all—and that together with him we killed those...
15 people, because of course the LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party of Russia)...
and all the rest of this whole power structure, they...
can be made to do all sorts of things and...
say absolutely anything.
So in any case, the main political...
force there, and the ones tightly controlling...
the message, can only be local people and...
some people who are part of...
Furgal's team. And he himself, despite all...
the situation, though we understand perfectly well that...
well, he's simply being beaten down.
If he really starts to...
coordinate anything, then... So simply...
dear residents of Khabarovsk, dear...
residents of the Russian Far East, you simply need to...
stay persistent.
Look for ways to supplement what's happening...
with some new methods. It seems to me...
that an attempt, for example, may or may not...
work out—but to organize some kind of...
citywide strike, where people simply...
show up for work but do not work...
stop all work, try to...
shut down all institutions for one day or two...
days—things like that should be attempted...
because otherwise...
they'll just talk it to death, drag everything out gradually...
expanding and expanding the initiative group...
and gradually, through lies, deceit, and meanness...
they will try to tear everything apart...
to wreck it all. But right now, the main thing is that truth and...
the people are on your side.
The residents of Khabarovsk are in the right, and no matter how much...
they lie, they cannot drown out one thing. I wanted...
to show you at the end—the program has been going for an hour and a half...
already, 85 people are watching...
live—44 seconds...
the very video, out of all the ones that...
I liked most. It's people...
residents of neighboring settlements near...
Khabarovsk, walking to the rally, and visually...
visually...
if you turn off the picture—rather, turn off...
the sound—and don't tell you where this...
is happening, you'd watch it and say: well, this is...
some kind of pro-Putin rally, people marching for Putin...
most likely some kind of Putin squads...
these are elderly women, or simply...
women going to some demonstration...
they were probably paid 200 rubles each...
to go and rally for Putin. In other words...
everything has turned out...
completely differently. And absolutely ordinary...
people, whose support...
real or imagined, United Russia once prided itself on...
United Russia and Putin—now they...
are absolutely against him. Everyone, everyone is against...
him. What it looks like there, what those...
44 seconds show, is truly some kind of...
uprising people that Putin...
no longer has. He has lost these people...
completely.
And looking at this video, no one will say anymore...
that these are the State Department, “liberasts” (a derogatory Russian term for liberals), liberals...
some kind of Westernizers, or anyone else, because...
this is the most genuine, plain...
Russian people, coming out of their apartments...
and walking along the highway...
in order to defend their governor. Forty-four...
seconds.
Let's open it...
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and, and...
Good Lord...
You see, they're just walking down the street...
they simply don't know what to do with them, and...
they just lie—telling them to go away because...
some school, some technical college, whatever—but the people keep going...
they keep going and going. Well done...
They're simply an example for all of us. That's why I...
I’m certainly impressed.
by the residents of Khabarovsk—right now,
the whole country is watching you. I was in
Arkhangelsk.
I told them, “You are defenders—well done.”
I mean, it’s really hard to compare with you.
In terms of protest activity in general, and your
passion in defending Russia—and they told me,
“Well, of course, right now no one can
compare with Khabarovsk.” That’s the plain
truth.
Moscow, St. Petersburg, Arkhangelsk—all cities, the whole
country is watching Arkhangelsk. We wish
you good luck.
And we’ll help however we can. Thank you
very much to everyone who watched the broadcast. See
you on Thursday. Bye.
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