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It’s 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, which means that here in the studio

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I’m Alexei Navalny, here to

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discuss with you the latest news of this

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week. And today I’m in the studio not as a

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“moron,” as Dmitry Medvedev called me,

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but as a visiting

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“troublemaker,” as the governor of

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the Samara region called me, where I held our

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really great rally. I’ll say a few more words about it

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a little later. This week

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there’s just been a whole pile of news.

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Putin announced his candidacy, there’s the Olympics, and

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we’ll try to talk about all of it, but

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first I have an announcement — a super

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mega-news, of course much more

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important than Putin announcing his candidacy.

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Too bad for him.

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We’ve finally made a mobile

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app for Navalny Live. You can

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go to the Apple Store and download it.

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Right now the app is for iOS, and it works like a radio:

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you can listen there

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to any episode. For example, in the morning you can

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just ride the metro or drive your car and

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listen to *Cactus* through your headphones. You can

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listen to this program like a radio show, you can

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watch things there, and very soon you’ll even be able to

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read there too — we’ll be posting

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transcripts of our programs. For now

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this app is available only for iOS,

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that is, for iPhones. We hope that in

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a week we’ll have it ready for Android. I

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asked our developers whether we could

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or should wait so that we could release it

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for iPhone and Android at the same time.

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The developers said, “You know,

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Alexei, Android users are used

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to suffering, so no, nothing terrible

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will happen if we split it up and first

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release the app for iPhone.”

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But everyone else only has a little bit more

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suffering left — next week we’ll

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publish it. Besides that, I wanted to say

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that we think we’ve been fairly successful,

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that these fundraising tests

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live on air went well. On the last

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program I raised — thank you very much —

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half a million rubles (about 5,000 euros / 5,400 US dollars), and I was very pleased.

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Mediazona raised money here before that,

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Volkov raised money, and we’ll keep

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doing it. It can be done during every broadcast.

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Of course, I’m not going to spend every show

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doing that and giving away prizes, although I

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admit it’s pretty fun — the broadcast

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gets pretty lively.

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But whatever we raise, we raise.

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So the GIFs, when you send

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some money, will keep

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popping up over my head — funny ones — but

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we’re not going to set some strict target. But if we

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raise 100,000 rubles (about 1,000 euros / 1,100 US dollars), that’s 100,000 newspapers

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that people will receive in their hands. In those

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newspapers there will be truthful

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information that they won’t get anywhere except

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from us. So as before,

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all sorts of icons will appear right here

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showing how much money has been raised

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and how the fundraising is going. This fundraising is

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the most important part of our

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election campaign. Of course, the main

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thing that happened

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was Vladimir Putin’s nomination. This

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was something we were all expecting, and

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we all understood it would happen, and already with

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heavy sarcasm everyone was discussing when

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it would happen, what exactly would happen, and why

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it still hadn’t happened. And various political analysts

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kept writing endlessly, kept endlessly

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saying that maybe, just maybe,

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there was some other plan, maybe something

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else would happen, maybe someone else

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would be the successor — Manturov, Medvedev, someone else,

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some relatives perhaps. And then once again,

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for the hundred and forty-first time, just like throughout

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all these 18 years, Putin nominated himself anyway. Yes,

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there was a time when Medvedev was president, but Putin

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became prime minister then, and we

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once again saw clearly last night. And guys, I

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urge all of you

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to understand this point very clearly and

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remember it, and never again give in

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to any speculation that maybe

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there’s some Plan B, and maybe somehow

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they’ll change their strategy. There is no

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strategy other than lifelong

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presidency for Putin.

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That’s it. Nothing else exists. Everything this man thinks about

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is how to become, in effect,

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a monarch in Russia and remain

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that monarch of Russia for as long as possible, until

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his death,

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and then pass on power — I’m convinced of it —

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preferably to some of his own

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relatives. We will yet see times, if

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we do not resist this, when

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Putin will try to hand the throne to his

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son-in-law, his grandson, his son, or

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someone else, because this new feudalism

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is something he is building completely openly, and

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that kind of succession to the throne fits

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perfectly within the logic of what he is doing.

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You can already see a feudal

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state being built, where the children of

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FSB chiefs work in state banks, where

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the children of Putin’s friends work in

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various state structures. This

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is already a new aristocracy as it is.

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They believe this is the right way to do things

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and they will keep working on it. Quite

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interestingly, with the nomination itself they

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apparently planned several events

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at each of which it could have

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taken place. Everyone knew about this nomination,

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everyone expected it,

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and again there was a lot of various funny

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analysts and

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there were assumptions that within the movement

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something would happen, and with us it happened among the volunteers

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the volunteers, but it happened a little later. I

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suggest we watch a minute of it. It’s very

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interesting to watch when he almost

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said it at the volunteers’ congress, but

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he played coy a little, with a shrugging kind of

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gesture, as if asking, “Will you support me, guys?”

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The guys said, “We support you.” We now know

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how these people were gathered for the volunteer

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congress, and a little later, at the

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meeting with GAZ workers, Putin said that

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he simply could not remain indifferent after the

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heart-rending cries of “GAZ is for you!” and

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announced that he would run.

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A short video—let’s watch. “Please tell me,

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will you take part

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in the 2018 election, run for the post

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of president?”

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“If I make that decision, will you and the people

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who share your outlook

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support that decision? At the volunteers’ forum

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you were asked whether you would

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put forward your candidacy in the

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presidential election.”

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And you answered that if the people support you,

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they support you.

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then you will. So today, in this hall,

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everyone without exception supports you.

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Vladimir, give us a gift already

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and announce your decision, because we are for you.”

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“GAZ is for you.” Thank you.

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“Thank you very much. Truly, a better

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place and

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a better occasion to announce this

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probably do not exist. Thank you for your support.

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I will put forward my candidacy for the

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office of President of the Russian

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Federation.” “Vladimir Vladimirovich, please

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give us this gift—announce your decision.”

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Well, it was quite

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disgusting to watch

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something like that—just a circus

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of servility and bootlicking. But this is

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exactly the style of our current

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government. By the way, it’s quite interesting

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to remember that last time Putin

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staged roughly the same kind of performance

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at Uralvagonzavod (a major Russian tank and railcar manufacturer). “We are

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workers of Uralvagonzavod, we are for you, under your

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leadership we will reach some kind of

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wonderful lofty heights.” During this term

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under Putin, what happened to Uralvagonzavod was

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simply catastrophic.

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Just look—go to the database

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of arbitration cases and see how

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Uralvagonzavod was litigating with Alfa there.

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It gives figures showing the horrifying state

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of Uralvagonzavod, its debts—that is,

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the enterprise is simply at the bottom,

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in a very, very deep pit, and this is a direct

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result of these four years

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of Putin’s presidency. And with GAZ, I’m sure, unfortunately

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exactly the same thing will happen. Here

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the grin on my face appears because

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someone paid money

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the same thing will happen, unfortunately, because

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these next six years will become

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if Putin wins, they will become yet another

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period of missed opportunities for

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Russia and our gradual, or perhaps more

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abrupt, descent into a pit from which

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it will be very hard to climb out later.

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Today, some of you may have

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seen that Meduza (an independent Russian media outlet) launched a kind of game.

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It’s interesting: you enter your age and it

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gives you a card showing how many years you’ve

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what percentage of your life you have lived

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under Putin. I have lived 43 percent

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of my life under Putin. But then I

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looked on Twitter, and there were many

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people saying, you know, “I’ve lived my whole life under

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Putin. I’ve lived 99 percent

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of my life under Putin.” And I, by the way,

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it’s 43 percent for me—but I still remember

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the old days. Lyosha Navalny (a diminutive of Alexei Navalny) still

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remembers that there was once a Leonid Ilyich

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Brezhnev, and even so, 43 percent of my

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life I have lived under Putin. So I

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advise everyone to enter their date of birth

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into this game and think about this

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number, because the intention of these guys in the

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Kremlin is clear: there will be no successors there again.

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He wants to rule until death, and then

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pass his power on to some

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relative, heir, or

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something of that sort. And our common task

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right now is not to treat this with

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irony and giggling,

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not to disguise our cowardice or

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our unwillingness to do anything by pretending that we are just

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laughing at it. The task of every

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citizen of Russia is to protest this,

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to oppose it, and to do something right

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now—to make your small contribution, any

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contribution, a tiny contribution, perhaps barely

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noticeable, but still make your contribution so

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that this does not happen. There is a very high

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probability that it will happen anyway,

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but someday, when in some new

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Meduza game you see that 99 percent

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of your life has passed under Putin, at least

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you will be able to say to yourself:

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“I was against this, and it is not my fault.”

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This is the most important thing that everyone should,

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it seems to me, think through now and should

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act on. I’m very interested in what form

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Vladimir Putin’s election

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campaign will take. Will he

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have to get rallies approved? Will he

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have to get pickets approved too? Equality

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among candidates will presumably exist, you know.

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He will probably face fairly serious difficulties,

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because in a large number of major cities

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it is simply impossible to hold

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rallies there at all, it is simply impossible

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to hold meetings with voters, well

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for example, in southern Russia

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Krasnodar, Rostov-on-Don — I haven't managed to get there yet

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I wasn't able to do that

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It's interesting whether Putin will manage it. I

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last weekend was absolutely

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an amazing part of our tour. We had

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Saratov, Pskov, and Samara, and in both Saratov and

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Samara there were attempts to disrupt the rally. We

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had to hold something practically

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with a megaphone, you know — very strange

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but very inspiring, because I

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really saw thousands of people who

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took part in all of this despite

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the fact that half of what I was saying

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couldn't be heard because Samara City Hall

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dragged in some speakers and

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drowned me out with Eastern music

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in the literal sense. It was very funny

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when cops and officials are hauling

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speakers and blasting Eastern music for

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belly dancing just to drown out

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me — nobody understands what all this is for

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It looks terribly ridiculous and shameful for

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the authorities. This is happening, and this

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pettiness of the authorities and their shameful actions

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also — well, they stand out perfectly against

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the backdrop of these wonderful people who

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come to the rally. Once again, many

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thanks to everyone. As for my immediate plans, right

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after the broadcast, I'm flying overnight to Barnaul

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or rather, I'm flying to Novosibirsk so that I can

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drive to Barnaul, and from Barnaul I'll

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drive to Novokuznetsk. Russia

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is structured in such a way that it's fairly

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difficult to travel between

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cities, but we're doing this work, I am doing this

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work. So this weekend I have

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Barnaul

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Novokuznetsk, and then Kaliningrad. And in

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Barnaul and Novokuznetsk it's minus 15°C (5°F), and that will be

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very interesting for all of us to see

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what kind of rallies, what kind of meetings with

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voters will be possible when it's no longer just

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below freezing — I'm talking about

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seriously subzero temperatures

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But in any case, come if you live

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in these cities. These meetings matter, and again

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we'll see, I think, a striking

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difference between how we manage to

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organize these meetings, which

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we simply have to wrest from

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each city's administration, but people

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come to them on their own, despite the threats

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and the meetings that will be held by

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Putin — if he holds them at all —

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where people will simply be herded in

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and permits will be brought on a silver platter

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with a blue rim. Putin's nomination in

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Nizhny Novgorod, for me personally, had another

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interesting aspect, because

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Nizhny Novgorod — and in Nizhny Novgorod

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well, probably a kilometer from the place where

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Putin was being nominated for president, sitting in jail

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right now, feeling down, probably reading a book,

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is Leonid Volkov, the head of my

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campaign headquarters, who was on a completely

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obviously fabricated case thrown

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behind bars. Why? Let me just

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explain in more detail why Volkov was jailed

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We are going to have the nomination process

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for presidential candidates. This is a procedure

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that goes through a formal

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initiative group. We will need to

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gather 500 people, get a notary,

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and carry out this fairly complicated

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procedure in order to be nominated. It isn't simple,

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it's expensive, it requires major

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organizational and legal efforts, and

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of course the Kremlin and Putin very much want

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to derail it. That's why Volkov is sitting

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there. And there he is, sitting a kilometer from

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the place where Putin is talking about how he

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is running in the election, how these elections are fair, and

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how he fears no one and will defeat

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everyone. But he is afraid — afraid of that very

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man

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Volkov, who is sitting somewhere nearby in a

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cell reading a book, just as he is afraid of all of us

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They are very afraid. So I've said this a million

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times, and I'll repeat it once again: don't

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let yourselves be intimidated by these approval ratings —

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84 percent, 86 percent, 90 percent. They

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don't exist. It's all just made-up ratings

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pulled out of thin air. People have gotten used to saying:

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an authoritarian country, 18 years in power, this

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man — and for the last five years people have simply been

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jailed very often for expressing

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any kind of independent opinion, so people

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don't say anything else, they don't want

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to speak — but they think very differently

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So don't let them mess with your head — there

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aren't any real percentages of support there

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In that same Nizhny

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Novgorod

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they gave me a place to speak —

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the Sormovsky District, several

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kilometers from the center, on the other bank of the Volga

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and yet thousands of people came to

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the meeting. I wonder whether those same thousands would come to Putin

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for a meeting if they

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weren't being driven there by force or

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paid to do it. Alexei, I've been asking

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for half a year now, half a year: what will you

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do about tariffs, specifically

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car import duties? You can't answer the question

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of what you will do with customs

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duties in general without depending on

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what exactly those duties are on. As for car

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duties, I believe they are unnecessary

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simply because over

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the past decades we

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have had the experience of introducing these duties, but

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they do not work. As you can see, our auto industry

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alas, is not thriving despite the fact

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that we have imposed these duties so many times

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really, really many times. Vlad, you

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have been asked this question, but still, how would you

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Will you change the laws concerning LGBT people and give

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these people freedom? Vlad, I have

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indeed answered many times: all people

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are equal. We do not need any laws

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that restrict the rights of any

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specific groups of people, LGBT people or anyone else.

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Therefore, laws that discriminate against people

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are, in principle,

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contrary to the Constitution

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and must be repealed immediately. Evgeny,

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I had to take part in a rally in support of

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Putin in 2012. I cannot

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refuse, because I worked in the public sector. What

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should people in my current position do? How

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can they resist? Evgeny, just don’t go. But back in

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2012, everyone was being forced

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they forced workers there, Russian Post employees,

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employees of state institutions. They

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were told:

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"You must come for sure, otherwise we’ll punish you."

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But they would also say, "We’ll give you a day off as well."

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Most often, that worked. And those who

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didn’t go—nothing happened to them, but

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they simply didn’t get the extra day off. We don’t know

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of cases where someone didn’t go to

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a pro-Putin rally and was fired. You can always

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say: "I don’t want to go. If I go, it will only

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cause problems. I’m sick, I

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don’t want to, it disgusts me, and you have no right

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to force me." And they will leave you alone.

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If you simply say one straightforward thing:

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"Guys, I’m against Putin. Do you really need

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someone at your rally who is against

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Putin and might talk about it? If that’s what you need,

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then fine—but otherwise leave me alone." And that always

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works.

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No one is standing there with a gun to your head.

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There are enough public-sector employees there whom they can

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round up.

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One person more or less changes nothing.

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So if you tell your

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boss calmly, honestly, and directly:

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"Sorry, this goes against my

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convictions. I can’t go, I simply

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can’t."

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"Scold me if you want, but I can’t." No one is going to drag you there,

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nothing will happen to you. These are all

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just words,

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promises, intimidation. But in reality

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no one gets fired. You just need to have

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the strength to say it to yourself. Tim Androsov, Alexei,

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[unclear text] of our state or not? I

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don’t really understand what "re-establish" means

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in relation to our state.

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But if you mean the Constitution—

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I think the Constitution in Russia is bad, and right now it does not

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work. Under the Constitution, Russia

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is a federal state, but in practice

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it is unitary. Under Russia’s Constitution,

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it is a democracy; in practice, Russia is a monarchy. And

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now this same person wants to be elected again,

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which would mean 24 years in power. So in

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that sense,

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we need to change the foundations of our

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state—if you like, in a certain

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sense, to re-found Russia—in order

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to create a mechanism under which

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a person would not be able to usurp power,

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whether that person is Navalny,

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Vasichkin, or anyone else—they should not be able

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to usurp power. That is what needs to be done—

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in that sense, to re-found it. Evgeny,

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Alexei Navalny, where is the promised post

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about your favorite books? Every

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cool presidential candidate has their own

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top list of books they recommend

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for reading. Every cool candidate

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has published such a list. Well, actually, I did promise

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on air that I would post a list

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of what I read

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the last time I was in the special detention center (a temporary detention facility), and I also

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read a lot.

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Some things I liked more, some

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I liked less. Probably someone

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will find that interesting. I’ll post it—sorry,

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I forgot. Let’s take a couple more questions. You

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send questions on Twitter with the hashtag

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#Navalny2018, and I answer them. Anatoly

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Panferov: "For the first time, it felt so good

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to give my money to your campaign,

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even though it was only 100 rubles." How nice. If it feels good for you

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to donate, imagine how good it feels for us to receive it.

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Anatoly, you won’t believe it, but actually

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it matters. It is the only source of funding for our

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campaign. One hundred rubles, one hundred rubles at a time—

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that pays for newspapers; it is a substantial thing. If those donations

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weren’t there, there would be zero left. But it’s great, isn’t it?

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The account "For Navalny" asks:

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Bastrykin proposed that people accused of

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corruption should prove the origin of their

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property.

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Well, first of all, Bastrykin should prove

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the origin of his own property, especially

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his property in the Czech Republic. Second,

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this should not apply only to those accused of

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corruption, but to all officials who cannot

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say where they got this

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property. They should have to prove its

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origin. That would be right. This is

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Article 20 of the UN Convention; it is what we

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included in a draft law a long time ago,

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and collected signatures for it, as many

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probably remember. But the Kremlin

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categorically, categorically refuses to adopt it. Ilya Vorobyov, Alexei, will

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you cooperate with Elon Musk?

20:50

Will you cooperate with Elon Musk?

20:52

Will you begin developing the market for

20:54

alternative energy sources? Well, what

20:55

does it even mean to "cooperate with Elon Musk"?

20:57

Like: "Hey, Elon Musk, please build a Hyper

20:59

loop here to Avtozavodskaya metro station

21:02

so it will be more convenient for us

21:04

to get to San Francisco"? Unfortunately,

21:08

Russia is currently structured in such a way that

21:10

no real high technology

21:12

is possible here. The only thing that works here

21:15

is that kind of Chubais-style shell game, and some kind of...

21:18

So these things—none of what

21:21

Musk does, which is in fact

21:24

high technology, however successfully it may once have been

21:27

or less successfully—cannot be implemented in Russia right now.

21:28

But our task is

21:31

to bring about changes in the country such that

21:33

Elon Musk

21:35

a real Russian Elon Musk

21:36

by the way—and in my view, Elon Musk

21:38

they can and will be able to develop these things here,

21:42

and in our media too

21:46

we will discuss not how the FSB (Russia’s security service) decided that

21:50

all people who play video game consoles

21:53

must register their phone numbers,

21:54

but instead we will actually discuss how, in

21:56

Russia, brilliant scientists have emerged,

21:57

brilliant entrepreneurs who

22:00

are implementing technologies the whole world is talking about.

22:01

Everyone is talking about the Hyperloop,

22:03

everyone is talking about his rockets, everyone is talking about Tesla.

22:06

And what do they discuss about Russia? Doping at the

22:09

Olympics. What else do they talk about today?

22:11

Nothing else, really. This is the most important

22:13

task.

22:13

If there are any comments regarding

22:15

the situation unfolding around

22:17

Saakashvili in Kyiv, Gleb Silchenko asks me.

22:19

Well, it seems to me that what

22:25

is happening around Saakashvili is

22:27

quite shameful for the authorities in Kyiv,

22:30

for the Ukrainian authorities.

22:31

You know, I do not comment on Ukrainian issues very often here.

22:33

I understand very well the feelings of many Ukrainian citizens

22:36

who come into the comments every time

22:38

and say:

22:40

“Don’t teach us, we know everything ourselves.”

22:42

And yes, you do know your own affairs; I am not trying

22:44

to teach you. This is simply my assessment.

22:47

You can carry out as many reforms as you like,

22:49

you can do all sorts of things, but then

22:51

you start chasing your former governor across rooftops somewhere,

22:54

trying to catch him,

22:56

trying to jail him, and it is obvious to everyone that

22:59

this is politically motivated.

23:01

It is obvious to everyone that the people currently in

23:04

power—Petro Poroshenko and his circle—do not

23:06

want Saakashvili to engage in

23:08

politics,

23:09

to create his own party,

23:11

or, I don’t know, run for president,

23:12

or influence the authorities in any way. They do not

23:15

want that, and for this purpose they

23:18

are using this kind of police-and-courts

23:21

mechanism. It looks extremely unpleasant.

23:24

It looks extremely shameful. It seems to me this is

23:26

simply unworthy of the authorities in Kyiv.

23:29

And, in fact, there has already been a reaction to this

23:30

from Europe and the United States,

23:33

and they have all said: “Guys, you are not

23:35

fighting corruption;

23:36

you are busy fighting Saakashvili,”

23:39

and this will not lead to anything good.

23:41

In fact, it really will not lead to anything good.

23:43

Unfortunately, it seems to me that

23:46

the Saakashvili situation shows how

23:49

the beautiful Ukraine of the future

23:53

that Ukrainian citizens were fighting for

23:54

on the Maidan (the 2013–2014 protest movement in Kyiv) and elsewhere

23:57

is moving farther away. What is happening shows that, sadly,

24:00

there will be no easy transition for them.

24:03

I am sure that sooner or later they will reach

24:05

that point when there will be

24:08

a normal democratic state

24:10

in Ukraine, but that point

24:13

is becoming more and more distant.

24:15

The actions around Saakashvili show

24:17

that it is receding quite dramatically.

24:20

It is being pushed much farther away here.

24:23

Alexei, I’m finishing school and want to apply

24:26

to a teacher-training university to become a history teacher.

24:27

Understanding that under Putin it is impossible to be

24:29

a teacher and survive on the salary,

24:31

that is simply unrealistic—what should be done about teachers’ salaries?

24:33

An excellent question. According to Putin-era

24:39

statistics, teachers in Russia supposedly

24:42

earn a fairly decent average salary,

24:43

something like 35,000–36,000 rubles per month

24:47

(roughly $380–$390). In practice, you would have a hard time finding a teacher,

24:50

except perhaps in Moscow, who

24:53

earns more than 21,000 rubles

24:56

(about $230), and you will find plenty of teachers who work

24:58

one and a half full-time loads and still receive

25:00

only 17,000–18,000 rubles

25:02

(about $185–$195). Even if we set aside the standard points,

25:07

the standard correct things to say—that this is shameful,

25:09

that it is impossible to live on this kind of money—

25:12

all of that is true. But it is also absolutely stupid and

25:15

irrational. You need to invest in education.

25:18

If you do not invest in

25:20

education, then you lose money

25:22

and, as a state, you lose in the medium term.

25:24

So this is unquestionably

25:27

a crucial part of my program:

25:29

education, and increasing spending on

25:31

education twofold. There is enough money in the Russian

25:34

budget. This is a basic

25:37

point of my program, and I will talk about it

25:38

a lot. I recently recorded a special

25:40

video about it. In other words, until

25:42

we increase the budgets for

25:44

education and healthcare twofold, and until we

25:47

radically increase

25:48

salaries,

25:50

Just look at somewhere like Liechtenstein—or

25:52

at where some of the highest salaries among mass professions are.

25:54

Teachers in Singapore, for example—teachers there

25:57

earn around 8,000 to 10,000 euros

25:59

per month.

26:00

Why? Because it makes sense. The money

26:03

invested in teachers later

26:05

returns to the budget in the form of taxes

26:07

paid by people who received

26:09

a good education. Here is another question I received:

26:12

a tweet with questions about the Olympics.

26:15

Alexei, Natalie asks: what do you think about

26:17

Russia competing at the Olympics under

26:19

a white flag? Yes, I wanted to talk about that.

26:22

Russia and the Olympics.

26:25

Look at the question this way to begin with:

26:30

did the committee act properly?

26:33

Was the Olympic Committee's decision a harsh one

26:36

toward Russia?

26:39

Was it unfair to us?

26:42

Was there some element here

26:44

of removing Russia as a competitor at

26:47

the Olympics,

26:48

or was it actually

26:49

a fair decision? I thought about this myself for a long time.

26:52

I kept thinking it over, and for myself

26:55

I ran a kind of thought

26:57

experiment in my head. Let me

26:59

just share that thought

27:03

experiment with you so we can understand

27:04

why this happened. Because on the one hand,

27:06

look, the International

27:08

Olympic Committee

27:08

is a pretty corrupt outfit, frankly.

27:11

Let's be honest: the Olympic movement is

27:13

basically a gathering of sports officials,

27:15

and a gathering of fairly serious crooks.

27:18

Putin was always on very friendly terms with them.

27:20

He could get any issue settled there.

27:23

With the help of bribes, he bought

27:26

the Olympics that were held in Sochi,

27:28

and with bribes he solved issues in exactly the same way

27:31

with football officials as well,

27:33

and the FIFA World Cup that

27:36

was held in Russia, of course, came here

27:38

because we were handing out bribes left and right.

27:40

And in all dealings

27:44

with sports

27:46

officials, everything was always great for Putin.

27:49

They like him; they all speak

27:53

the same language. So what happened this

27:56

time? Let's imagine it wasn't in Sochi

27:59

that the Winter Olympics were held, but, say, in

28:01

Romania. So the Olympics took place in Romania, and

28:04

we sent our

28:05

athletes to Romania, hoping they would bring back

28:08

medals. These athletes trained hard, pushed themselves to the limit,

28:11

their coaches worked with them, their relatives

28:14

supported them.

28:15

So we were rooting for our athletes

28:17

who went to the Olympics in Romania, and

28:19

then imagine that somehow

28:23

the Romanians suddenly took a whole pile of

28:26

gold, silver, and bronze medals,

28:28

more than usual, far more than

28:31

usual, including in disciplines

28:33

where they normally did not

28:35

win.

28:36

And everyone is whispering, everyone is talking about it,

28:40

and everyone understands it's about doping, and we

28:42

start remembering those famous

28:44

Norwegian 'asthmatics' and all that, and so

28:47

on. But there is an international

28:49

anti-doping system, and somehow it

28:51

checked everything and found nothing, so

28:53

people whisper and whisper, but there's nothing

28:55

to be done: we congratulated the Romanians

28:57

and went home to prepare better for

28:59

the next Olympics.

29:00

And then two years later it turns out that

29:03

the president of Romania

29:06

had organized an entire system

29:07

of state-sponsored doping,

29:09

under which Romania's sports minister

29:11

directly organized the cheating,

29:16

security-service people—whatever their equivalent there would be called—

29:18

through holes in the walls

29:20

swapped urine samples; there was a whole system

29:23

for falsifying sample bottles and

29:25

tampering with tests and everything else. In other words,

29:28

we discovered that the entire Romanian

29:30

state had in fact been working

29:33

to steal our medals, and we were

29:38

shocked and refused to believe it at first.

29:40

Then they said: yes, the anti-doping commission may be dubious,

29:42

but go check. They checked

29:44

and established that in some tests the DNA

29:47

should have been female but was male—some kind of

29:50

horrific abuse, irregularities, all sorts of violations,

29:53

and complete chaos overall. They opened those

29:56

samples and confirmed that indeed

29:58

—can you imagine?—those

30:01

Romanians had simply falsified

30:03

doping samples on a massive scale, and our athletes, our

30:05

Russian athletes, had no

30:07

chance at all against them, because

30:10

from the very beginning everything had been designed

30:12

for cheating. They organized the Olympics, and at

30:16

that Olympics, from the very start, they planned

30:18

to deceive all of us. So what would happen at that

30:21

moment to Russian public opinion?

30:23

We would all go absolutely crazy. We would be

30:26

furious.

30:27

On talk shows, all those United Russia politicians and, well, whoever else

30:31

—Vladimir Solovyov among them—would be

30:33

screeching, tearing at their clothes, and

30:36

in general they would, in a sense, be right to

30:38

shout: 'Well, would you look at that—those Romanians

30:40

have some nerve!' Zhirik (Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Russian nationalist politician) would come out and say:

30:42

'We need to drop an atomic bomb on Romania,

30:44

because they stole medals from

30:45

our athletes.' Sports federations,

30:48

coaches, the athletes themselves,

30:51

their relatives—they would all simply demand

30:53

that Romania be excluded forever, from everywhere, that no one

30:57

from there ever be allowed in again,

30:59

that the entire country and all

31:02

its people be thrown out of the Olympic movement.

31:04

Some athletes would be receiving

31:07

their medals later. They'd get a call: 'Hello,

31:09

athlete Ivanov, you finished

31:12

fourth, but since there was

31:14

cheating, please come to the post office from 9

31:17

to 6 to collect your gold medal.

31:18

Sign here. You're now a gold

31:20

medalist.' What does the athlete feel at that moment?

31:22

Well, he actually wanted to win.

31:24

He wanted to stand on the podium and cry,

31:27

with all his

31:29

relatives watching him, and his neighbors from

31:31

his little hometown, and the girl

31:34

who dumped him back in school looking at him

31:36

and thinking, 'What an idiot I was.' He won, and he...

31:39

a gold medalist, and he missed that moment

31:41

and is receiving his medal in the mail

31:44

why? because some damn Romanians, poor guy

31:47

the Romanian embassy will probably send me

31:49

a note of protest later. We used Romania as an example,

31:52

as an example, Romanians

31:54

no offense, hypothetical Romanians, because

31:56

those hypothetical damn Romanians just

31:58

forged everything, and that is why

32:02

such a decision was made, regardless of

32:04

whether some people at the IOC could have

32:07

reached some kind of agreement with Putin,

32:09

talked something over, arranged something — the force

32:12

of public opinion from

32:14

athletes, from the press, from all

32:16

countries, was such that it was impossible

32:19

to do anything else, and the IOC could not

32:22

possibly have made any other decision

32:24

except to suspend Russia. We have not yet been

32:28

completely suspended, except that Russia was seriously

32:30

punished for creating

32:34

a state-run doping system. Here, I

32:37

have it right here — I printed it out because

32:39

it is already being quoted in newspapers. I am just

32:42

looking at the Olympic Committee press release,

32:45

and notice this: they

32:47

write that they are accepting the recommendation

32:50

of the Schmid Commission.

32:51

Essentially, the decision consists

32:53

in taking

32:55

fairly tough measures against

32:58

Russia’s anti-doping system and

33:01

other legally implicated persons, that is,

33:03

officials, while in fact protecting

33:06

the rights of individual Russian athletes

33:08

against whom there are no doping allegations in

33:11

that sense. But the Olympic Committee’s decision

33:13

looks fairly

33:15

balanced, considering that

33:18

public opinion, naturally and quite

33:22

justifiably, in those countries

33:24

is simply furious and demands that we

33:27

never be allowed back again. We bear

33:30

the main responsibility for what

33:32

happened. It is indeed a major blow

33:34

to Russian sport.

33:35

Fortunately, the officials did make

33:38

after all

33:39

a somewhat reasonable decision: to agree

33:42

to go to the Olympics

33:43

even if it means competing under the Olympic flag.

33:45

And really, that is not some great tragedy.

33:47

No, but it will still be recorded as

33:49

a Russian athlete achieved this

33:51

result. Yes, he competes under

33:53

the Olympic flag, but that does not immediately mean

33:55

he is not a Russian athlete. On the last day

33:57

of the Olympics, at the closing ceremony, they will still

33:59

have the right, if possible, to march with

34:02

flags and national symbols as

34:05

a unified Russian team. So yes,

34:07

there is punishment, but it is not

34:10

some kind of extreme humiliation, considering

34:13

the wrongdoing. And the wrongdoing was committed by two

34:16

specific people, and their names are

34:19

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Mutko — I do not

34:23

remember his first name and patronymic

34:24

— but these two specific people, these

34:28

two specific criminals, they

34:31

did all this. They inflicted

34:32

a colossal blow on Russian sport

34:34

that for years

34:36

will continue to affect us, our

34:39

reputation, and many athletes who

34:43

were suspended. After all, it is a four-year

34:45

cycle.

34:45

Many simply will never again be able

34:49

to compete in the Olympics — those who were

34:50

suspended because of all these doping

34:53

matters. They did this. Well, let us

34:57

we

34:58

I am completely serious:

35:00

Mutko could not have been giving orders to the FSB (Russia’s security service) through

35:03

a hole in the wall

35:04

to steal a urine sample. That could not have happened.

35:07

This was organized personally by Putin.

35:10

It was his idea, his eternal

35:12

idea that cheating,

35:15

deception, and theft are effective

35:17

ways of solving problems. And, broadly speaking,

35:19

for a while they did show

35:22

their effectiveness.

35:23

As I already said, they paid bribes

35:25

and got the World Cup; they paid bribes

35:27

and got the Olympics. Everyone is outraged, everyone

35:30

is up in arms,

35:30

but if you are not caught, you are not a thief — that is how it

35:33

worked. And then they decided, well,

35:34

let us just, right now, through a hole in

35:36

the wall, swap everything out. They came up with what they thought

35:39

was a brilliant trick, but it did not

35:42

work. It was a fiasco, and all of

35:46

that fiasco is reflected on us. And these

35:48

people — Mutko, who repeatedly said

35:51

that he would resign

35:51

if the Russian national team were somehow

35:56

punished over participation in the Olympics — still

35:58

has not resigned. He remains

35:59

a deputy prime minister and is

36:01

a trusted associate. But why? Because he is also

36:03

from the St. Petersburg mayor’s office

36:05

days with Putin — Mutko, all their petty

36:08

corrupt dealings with Putin began

36:10

back then, together in St. Petersburg.

36:12

That is why he truly is

36:14

a super-trusted person, exactly the kind

36:17

you can sit down with and say, well, let us

36:19

just, you know, right now cover things up

36:21

somehow for all our athletes.

36:23

Come on, Vladimir Vladimirovich, arrange it,

36:25

just call the FSB there and tell them

36:28

to help me, all right? And that is why he remains

36:31

in office. I think that, of course, we all

36:35

must demand unconditionally not just

36:38

his resignation, but criminal prosecution

36:40

of Mutko, because what he did is

36:43

a formal criminal

36:45

offense under Russian law.

36:47

under the law, what Zhukov brought was

36:51

an apology to the international committee; the fact that

36:53

we will pay a fine is de facto

36:56

an acknowledgment of a system of state-sponsored

36:58

doping, and Mutko should go to prison, but

37:00

at the same time, we must not forget that

37:04

the main responsibility lies with Putin

37:06

it was he who dealt a colossal blow to

37:09

Russian sports.

37:10

So you keep writing to me about the Olympics.

37:13

Let me see how you envision—not about

37:17

the Olympics—news channels in the future.

37:19

Lilian To The Dares asks me: will there

37:24

be people like Sergei

37:26

Druzhko working there? 1. Don’t you think Sergei Druzhko

37:27

could work on a news channel? Well, although

37:30

why not? But those would be interesting

37:31

news broadcasts—I’d watch them. Could, couldn’t...

37:34

someone from the FSB (Russia’s security service)... Anyway, about the Olympics, about

37:39

the Olympics, there are a huge number of questions.

37:42

I just don’t see—Ivan Grigoryev, also known as

37:47

helicopter. Alexei, according to the Constitution,

37:49

you have the right to run for

37:50

president, but according to the law on presidential elections,

37:52

of the President of Russia, you do not. What should be done? For the 100,000

37:55

trillionth time, I’m answering this question.

37:57

Ivan Grigoryev.

37:58

First, a law has no right

38:02

to contradict the

38:03

Constitution. Second, these fake

38:06

provisions of this law have been struck down by the Constitutional

38:08

Court and declared unconstitutional

38:11

five times. Therefore, this law is

38:13

simply a legal absurdity. It

38:16

is full of holes, and most importantly, we need to

38:19

remember to look at the substance of it.

38:21

A criminal case was fabricated against me.

38:24

I proved that in the European Court.

38:27

They then illegally handed down the same repeated

38:29

sentence and adopted this

38:31

unconstitutional law. Therefore, regardless

38:33

of the fact that some

38:34

crooks—like that Mutko fellow, only

38:37

you know, the kind of shady operators who deal

38:39

not with sports but with elections—have written exactly the same

38:42

doping system into these laws,

38:45

none of this means that I somehow

38:47

do not have the legal right to do something. It’s just that

38:49

the law is bogus and unconstitutional. In the

38:52

Constitution it is written in black and white, and that is what

38:53

we look at. It says: 35 years old, not

38:56

being in places of deprivation of liberty

38:58

has the right to participate in—sorry, to run in

39:01

has the right to participate in elections.

39:03

Is the date known for the consideration of your

39:05

complaint to the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights) regarding the decision in

39:06

the second Kirovles case? Maksim Klimovsky.

39:09

I’ll say again: it’s still unknown. What is known is that

39:10

it has been registered, but we do not know—I do not know

39:15

when it will be reviewed. Demetrios de...

39:17

Alexei, have you thought about cryptocurrencies, how

39:19

they will be regulated? When I see the

39:21

Bitcoin exchange rate, I think about cryptocurrency

39:23

all the time, naturally, like everyone else.

39:26

Right now I’m thinking: what an idiot, I should have

39:27

bought that Bitcoin. I even tried

39:29

at one point to open a Bitcoin wallet, and

39:31

a few years ago I just gave up on it.

39:33

If only I had bought one

39:35

Bitcoin back then and forgotten about it, then now

39:37

it would already be worth $19,000.

39:39

Today I saw an amusing calculation:

39:42

if you had bought it yesterday,

39:44

Bitcoin, and sold it 30 minutes later,

39:47

you would already have made thousands of dollars. But

39:50

cryptocurrencies are great; I view them positively.

39:53

I do not think they should be

39:55

banned or regulated. Honestly,

39:58

even now, at this stage,

39:59

when Bitcoin is just shooting off somewhere

40:01

and rising 30 percent a day, I regard it with great

40:05

skepticism. I don’t want

40:07

to give any investment advice,

40:09

but I would be cautious about buying now, although

40:12

it is entirely possible that later,

40:14

in two years, they’ll show this

40:15

video and say, ha ha ha, if you

40:18

had bought Bitcoin then at $19,000,

40:21

you would have a million by now. Maybe

40:23

that will happen, maybe not. But still,

40:28

right now it feels a bit scary. We remember

40:30

all those MMM tickets and shares (MMM was a notorious Russian pyramid scheme),

40:33

I’m not comparing them directly in any way,

40:35

of course; in essence I’m not comparing them,

40:37

they are different things. But still, in

40:40

the history of our country there have been financial

40:42

instruments that grew that quickly, and well,

40:45

personally, I would be cautious right now

40:48

about buying, although it is quite possible that

40:50

I’ll regret it. Yakovlev Alexei. Alexei, you

40:52

support a visa regime with Central

40:55

Asia and visa-free travel with Europe. Isn’t it true that

40:57

African and other immigrants might flood

40:59

to us from Europe, people whom old

41:01

Europe would be glad to get rid of? Alexei, but

41:03

just imagine this: a migrant is living

41:05

freely from Africa in Paris or

41:10

Brussels,

41:11

and then thinks, how could I go flooding

41:13

over

41:14

to Yaroslavl, perhaps, or maybe I’ll go

41:18

to the city of Barnaul, where I will be

41:21

speaking tomorrow, and which is

41:23

one of the poorest cities in the country.

41:26

They won’t flood in, they won’t, because, look,

41:29

we were discussing teachers’ salaries here.

41:31

There are teachers here who, for a full

41:34

working day at one and a half positions, earn 15,000

41:37

rubles—14,000 rubles (about $240–$260 at the time).

41:39

Unemployment benefits in Europe for

41:41

an African migrant would be higher than

41:43

a teacher’s salary here. So there is no need

41:45

to be afraid that they will flood in. We should introduce

41:47

a visa-free regime with Europe in order to

41:49

make it easier for foreign tourists

41:53

and specialists to come here. These are people with money; they

41:55

will come here, they will spend money, they will not

41:57

make us richer than Central Asia, and

42:00

What the South Caucasus needs is not to wall itself off, but...

42:02

...simply to establish a visa regime that...

42:06

...exists in all normal countries...

42:09

...in their relations with other countries...

42:11

...from which we simply do not want to receive, in large numbers...

42:13

...migrants. Alexei,

42:18

what do you think about Saakashvili’s wife?

42:19

asks Golden Karas. I know nothing...

42:22

about Saakashvili’s wife, and I have no...

42:24

opinion, but I hope everything is fine with them.

42:26

Saakashvili: will the retirement age be lowered...

42:30

and the minimum years of service required...

42:32

to receive a pension? But lowering the retirement age...

42:34

is unlikely. Perhaps the question was more likely...

42:37

meant to be about raising...

42:40

the retirement age. I am opposed to...

42:41

raising the retirement age for two...

42:44

reasons. First, in our country people simply do not...

42:47

live to retirement age in...

42:49

huge numbers. So if we...

42:51

raise the retirement age, then...

42:53

no one will even manage to retire...

42:55

before dying. And second,

42:57

the state of healthcare is such that...

42:59

half of the people approaching...

43:02

retirement age, even under the current rules, are...

43:04

already officially disabled, and...

43:07

they will be granted pensions anyway, on the basis of...

43:09

disability. Of course, we can try...

43:12

to force them to work until 65 or 70...

43:14

but in practice that simply...

43:17

will not work because of their...

43:20

health. So the real prospects here...

43:22

lie in increasing labor productivity. But they see...

43:24

raising the retirement age simply...

43:27

as, for the Russian government,

43:28

an easy solution: let’s just...

43:30

raise the retirement age, and then...

43:31

we’ll simply have to pay fewer pensions.

43:33

A lot of people will not live to see it. But that...

43:37

may be a solution, you know...

43:39

if this is some kind of occupying power...

43:41

governing some colonized natives.

43:44

But if this is your own country and you are doing something...

43:46

for your own people, then things like this...

43:48

must not be done. Alexei, Alexei German asks me:

43:54

is your tie in the official...

43:56

Russian Olympic color scheme?

43:58

Well, it is white, blue, dark blue...

44:01

and red, so you could say that, but no...

44:04

it would be nice right now...

44:06

to tell a beautiful lie and say that I put it on...

44:08

to support the Olympic...

44:10

team, this tie—but still...

44:12

it is not exactly those colors.

44:16

Lyosha, we’re waiting for you in Kaliningrad. I also very much...

44:17

want to finally get to Kaliningrad, and...

44:19

I’ll be there on Sunday. As I understand it...

44:21

the venue where we’ll be speaking is...

44:23

right in the city center. Come...

44:26

and let’s talk—I’ll speak with you about...

44:29

everything. Alexei, what is your view of...

44:32

Kudrin, his resignation, and his speeches at...

44:34

Bolotnaya (the anti-government protest movement centered on Moscow’s Bolotnaya Square)? He seemed to be a decent economist.

44:37

Things got much worse without him, writes...

44:39

Pavel Volodin. With Kudrin...

44:44

or without Kudrin, this government...

44:46

is pursuing a certain course.

44:48

Kudrin, at one point, simply had a falling-out...

44:50

with Medvedev because Medvedev...

44:52

advocated increasing military-industrial...

44:54

spending, while Kudrin argued for reducing it.

44:56

So they parted ways; they could not coexist in one...

45:00

government. But overall, one cannot say that...

45:03

things became much worse without him. Even if he...

45:06

had stayed there, things still would have become...

45:07

much worse, because this is the course...

45:10

of the government. And the course of the government...

45:11

is determined by Putin, and this government still...

45:14

will not be able to achieve either...

45:16

economic growth, or investment growth...

45:17

or anything else, because why does it exist?

45:21

It exists to strengthen Putin’s personal...

45:24

power. And despite the fact that a number of...

45:26

measures—like the introduction of the Yarovaya law (a package of Russian anti-terror legislation that expanded surveillance powers)—

45:30

directly contradict the very idea of...

45:33

economic growth and the interests, in general...

45:35

of all Russian citizens, the government still...

45:37

approves them, implements them, and will continue...

45:40

to make life harder for mobile operators and for all of us.

45:42

Why? Because Putin wants...

45:44

control.

45:46

He wants to control what you write in Telegram or...

45:48

Skype, and what you are messaging about in...

45:51

SMS. They want to read everything you...

45:53

write to your wife or your girlfriend or...

45:55

someone else. They want to monitor whether...

45:57

you are writing something bad about them, whether...

45:59

you are extremists. And for the sake of this...

46:01

which is, from the point of view...

46:04

of the interests of the whole country, a rather absurd goal, they will...

46:07

destroy...

46:08

well, not destroy entirely, but deal a serious blow to...

46:10

the entire industry. And there are many such examples.

46:12

So regardless of Kudrin...

46:15

this government will keep doing everything worse...

46:17

and worse and worse. The fact that Kudrin was at...

46:19

Bolotnaya in 2012 is great.

46:21

But what is not great at all is that...

46:23

now he is this kind of...

46:26

silent figure. If he...

46:29

spoke more clearly and more directly, instead of...

46:33

working on the economic team for...

46:36

Putin’s program, that would probably be better.

46:39

Will you help promote the adoption of a law on...

46:41

animal protection? asks Mulla.

46:44

How do you feel about this issue? I...

46:46

believe that this law should have been passed long ago. It has...

46:47

been sitting in the Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) for years. I honestly do not understand...

46:50

why it has not been passed. Around it...

46:52

there is broad consensus; there is no...

46:55

political force that is against a law on...

46:57

the protection of animal rights. But nevertheless...

46:59

our idiotic system...

47:01

still does not pass it. There was one thing last...

47:09

week that really...

47:12

looked absolutely disgusting, truly...

47:16

beyond disgusting. I am holding this...

47:20

Something that, even against the backdrop of our

47:22

disgusting life, isn't even

47:24

coming from the state—not from

47:25

Putin, not something Dmitry Rogozin said,

47:28

or whoever else here likes to blurt out some

47:30

nonsense—like Culture Minister Medinsky. But this

47:34

really

47:35

this is a truly vile letter.

47:39

"Dear Mr. President,"

47:42

And interestingly, this "Mr. President" is

47:44

Emmanuel Macron.

47:45

And this letter was signed by holders

47:50

of French honors, members of the Order

47:53

of the Legion of Honor.

47:54

There are various people there: Irina Prokhorova, Mikhail

47:57

Prokhorov, Gref, director Lungin—different

48:01

people, many of whom

48:03

we generally consider decent, or

48:05

at least conditionally decent.

48:06

And they wrote a disgusting letter.

48:11

This letter simply

48:15

shows us well that the problem is not even, not

48:17

only in the state, in officials, in Putin,

48:20

or United Russia, but that the current

48:26

Russian elite itself is simply

48:28

hopeless, because these are people filled

48:31

with such hypocrisy, such—

48:34

such lies that, well, there's no getting around it.

48:36

These wonderful gentlemen simply

48:39

wrote a heart-rending appeal

48:42

to the French president in defense

48:45

of Suleiman Kerimov. Let me remind you that

48:47

the man is now actually accused of

48:50

transporting €750 million in

48:53

cash from Russia personally—that is,

48:55

he crossed the border many, many times simply

48:58

with suitcases—I don't even know,

49:00

maybe on pallets, with money stacked on the plane.

49:03

There were lots of calculations showing

49:05

you've probably seen online how much

49:07

all that cash would weigh in kilograms.

49:09

That cash which Kerimov

49:12

stole here—or at the very least

49:16

failed to pay taxes on here—and knowing how he

49:18

made his money, effectively stole—he took to

49:20

France and invested there,

49:23

in luxury real estate. He lives in that

49:27

luxury property right now, and he wasn't even

49:29

put under house arrest; he was simply

49:32

forbidden from leaving this

49:34

part of the southern coast of France, where I have

49:37

never been, but I assume it's

49:38

a rather pleasant place. And Kerimov there

49:42

is not suffering at all: he lives in a villa worth

49:44

tens of millions of euros, and he has

49:47

staff there, some luxury cars; he

49:50

walks around and enjoys the wonderful

49:52

climate.

49:53

He eats at Michelin-starred

49:55

restaurants, and yet they write, quite literally,

50:01

that at present the life of Mr.

50:04

Kerimov is being sustained by a team of doctors,

50:07

and that in order for him to receive medical

50:11

care, he needs to travel to Russia.

50:15

Can you imagine? These oligarchs

50:18

and various other rich people,

50:21

representatives of the elite in Russia, are in all

50:23

seriousness writing to France: dear France,

50:26

Kerimov is so terribly ill, and for him to receive

50:28

medical care, he must travel to

50:29

Russia. Apparently, since he's a senator from

50:32

Dagestan, maybe in Makhachkala or Derbent there is

50:36

some hospital there. They really should have

50:37

written: in Derbent there is a hospital, in

50:40

ward No. 33 there are eight beds, and there,

50:42

on one of those rusty beds,

50:45

covered with some tattered towel,

50:47

that's where Kerimov will receive the very medical

50:50

services that of course are unavailable to him

50:52

in France, where he lives on an estate

50:56

worth tens of millions of euros. But

50:58

it's just disgusting. And these people—

51:02

as everyone rightly noted—never wrote such

51:04

letters for anyone else. Well, among them,

51:07

the only one was Irina Prokhorova.

51:10

I'm not sure about Lungin, but it seems to me

51:12

that only Irina Prokhorova

51:14

wrote letters in support of Serebrennikov. All the

51:16

rest—people are tortured, people are killed,

51:20

people are arrested; every single day we see

51:23

these heart-rending stories,

51:26

like that of Ildar Dadin,

51:28

who was hung up somewhere,

51:31

with his face shoved into a toilet,

51:32

threatened with rape, subjected

51:34

to real torture. These stories come every single

51:36

day. At the very least, there are stories of

51:38

innocent people being punished.

51:40

Even specifically for this

51:42

sophisticated public, there are cases that

51:44

would presumably make them want to defend

51:46

someone unjustly

51:50

oppressed, like Kirill

51:53

Serebrennikov, who is close to them. But they

51:55

went to his productions together,

51:57

they ate with him somewhere,

51:59

at the same banquets, and they think they are

52:02

of the same blood. And even for him they did not

52:04

say a single word—not for all

52:07

those millions of suffering people, they

52:10

didn't say a single word. They never said

52:12

anything about, for example,

52:14

teachers earning 14,000 rubles (about $150) a month,

52:17

or about the monstrous hospitals. They

52:21

never even shared on Facebook some kind of

52:23

post where someone is raising money for treatment

52:26

for a relative or for their child—

52:28

say, $20,000 for treatment in

52:30

Germany. They never did that. But

52:32

damn it, the moment they finally

52:37

showed some nobility was the moment

52:40

when they needed to help Suleiman

52:43

Kerimov. You're now looking at a screenshot from

52:45

that letter, and here in red it is marked

52:48

that in accordance with humanity and

52:49

humanism, so that his life would not be

52:52

put in danger,

52:54

it is necessary for him to be reunited with his wife, with

52:57

with three children and go back to

52:59

Russia

52:59

It’s just enough to make you sick, you know.

53:03

You read all this and think, my God,

53:05

but they must have been laughing their heads off when

53:09

they signed this letter. But when you

53:11

write somewhere that this millionaire can’t

53:14

or rather, this billionaire can’t

53:16

get medical care in France

53:17

and needs to come to Makhachkala or

53:20

Derbent to receive medical treatment there,

53:23

well, of course they laughed, but then they still

53:26

signed it in complete seriousness

53:28

sent it off, and they threw it

53:31

right in all our faces, because once again they

53:34

said: yes, we are lying, brazen,

53:37

hypocritical people, and we are the elite of Russia — that’s

53:41

who we are, and that’s who we’ll remain.

53:43

It’s utterly disgusting, and the letter really

53:45

made an impression on me. It makes me want to

53:48

you know, somehow make sure that those watching

53:51

in Dagestan — I know many people there

53:55

sympathize with Kerimov, because

53:57

he paid some taxes there, in Dagestan,

54:00

and financed a team.

54:01

After my previous

54:03

program, several people wrote to me — well, to be honest,

54:05

not several, there was one letter in particular, and I

54:07

noticed it. It said: “Alexei, I support you,

54:08

but I’m still going to stand up for

54:10

Kerimov, because he’s Lezgin and I’m Lezgin.”

54:13

“I will always be on Kerimov’s side.”

54:14

So that’s a position too.

54:16

He’s Lezgin, so let’s all forgive him

54:18

because we’re Lezgin too.

54:19

Then let me forgive Potanin for everything

54:21

because he’s Russian. Or let me forgive everything

54:23

because he’s Russian too.

54:27

Or because someone is half-Ukrainian, like me, and

54:29

let’s forgive everything because we’re

54:30

of the same blood. I don’t understand that kind of

54:32

position, but apparently some people do share it.

54:34

But I assume there are quite a lot of people in Dagestan

54:37

who would simply be amused by

54:39

the very idea of a letter

54:42

from ultra-rich people concerning another

54:44

super-rich man, saying that he needs to

54:47

go back there, somewhere back home,

54:49

so that he can receive

54:51

medical care there that supposedly can’t be found

54:54

in France. I think people will laugh themselves silly

54:56

— people who are in Dagestani

54:58

hospitals and

54:59

or who go to Dagestani clinics will simply

55:01

burst out laughing — their lives will practically be

55:03

at risk because

55:05

they’ll read this letter.

55:06

Let me answer some more of your questions.

55:13

“Alexei, when you become — if, if you

55:15

become president,” or rather, “when you become president,”

55:17

aren’t you afraid that

55:19

the people currently in power will crush you

55:20

if you try to fight corruption?

55:22

“Aren’t you afraid for your life?”

55:23

asks a user named Triangle. Well, dear Triangle,

55:26

my dear, any person who

55:28

engages in independent politics in

55:29

Russia is under threat to one degree or another.

55:32

I’m not exactly thrilled about the fact that

55:36

certain risks accompany my

55:39

activities. But the question is: should I start

55:41

sitting around in fear, wondering

55:43

what the percentage chance is that I’ll be killed? I

55:44

just do what I do because

55:46

I believe it’s necessary. Fine, we all understand

55:49

that the people who grabbed

55:52

billions — Suleiman Kerimov and

55:54

the signatories of this disgusting letter —

55:56

of course they will fight for their

55:58

money. Naturally, we are fighting for

56:01

the future

56:02

for ourselves and our children. There are far more of us.

56:04

Incomparably more of us — that’s the point.

56:06

All these Putin-era

56:08

people — Putin’s team — are really just

56:11

about 1,000 people, 1,000 families, who

56:14

received genuinely huge incomes, huge

56:17

amounts of money from all these

56:22

many years of Vladimir

56:25

Putin being in power. But most people have simply

56:27

lost out. How much money have we raised? I can barely

56:29

see the screen.

56:31

Somewhere just under 100,000 rubles (about $1,100 USD)

56:33

right? Ah, 114,000 rubles (about $1,250 USD) already — that means 104,000

56:37

leaflets we can distribute. Many thanks

56:39

to everyone who’s donating — you’re great.

56:43

“Alexei, you need to read the donation questions

56:45

— you’ll raise more,” writes

56:46

his lackey.

56:47

His lackey — you’ve actually hit the nail on the head.

56:50

Honestly, it would indeed be good

56:53

to read the questions. People pay even 500

56:55

rubles (about $5.50 USD), questions appear, and I don’t answer them

56:57

not because I don’t want to, but because the screen

56:59

is very far away from me. I can

57:01

— you’ll see me sitting here squinting like some guy

57:03

trying to read. We’ll try to solve this

57:05

problem. I just don’t want to sit here in glasses

57:07

like an idiot in front of this screen.

57:10

They just splashed that brilliant green antiseptic (zelyonka) in my

57:12

eye, and my eyesight got worse overall, so from

57:16

a distant screen I simply can’t read it.

57:18

Also, with the livestream, there’s

57:20

a delay — everything I say, you see

57:23

two minutes after I’ve

57:25

said it, so it doesn’t quite

57:28

work properly. But we’ll try somehow

57:29

to solve this problem.

57:32

And we’ll try to solve this infernal overkill too.

57:35

There are more dislikes than likes — we should hold a rally over

57:37

that. But it’s Vladimir Putin’s cunning plan:

57:39

he keeps hitting us all the time with dislikes.

57:42

Indeed, some amount of views

57:44

gets stolen because of it.

57:45

As I said, because of that

57:48

this video appears less often in recommendations.

57:49

But I can tell you one thing,

57:51

guys, hit the like button — on average, I’ve seen...

57:55

This live format gets about 300

57:57

thousand views on average.

57:58

Everyone can easily leave a

58:00

like, and then

58:02

Putin's cook will get tired of hauling in bots without

58:04

likes. We can all outdo them,

58:07

we can all like this so much

58:10

that it'll be downright scary.

58:14

In the case of Kerimov, I was reminded of an episode

58:16

of *Nasha Russia* (a Russian sketch comedy show), the hospital one, for some reason.

58:19

Well, actually, this letter here—

58:22

compared with it, *Nasha Russia* and every other

58:24

comedy show, absolutely any of them,

58:27

are just standing nervously on the sidelines compared to

58:30

this letter of support, in support of

58:35

Kerimov.

58:37

Nissan asks me, how are you

58:38

planning to behave in Kaliningrad if

58:40

Governor Alikhanov shows up

58:42

fashionably on a bicycle and starts provoking things?

58:45

Well, I don't know what the provocation would be if

58:47

the governor comes fashionably on a bicycle

58:49

and I invite him onto the stage. But the thing is,

58:53

you know, not at a single rally

58:55

has any official ever expressed

58:58

a desire to debate me or

59:00

discuss something or object. Yet in

59:02

their newspapers they write: Navalny comes and

59:04

tells lies here,

59:06

campaigns, says everything wrong. Well,

59:08

please, come then. I'll take this opportunity

59:11

to invite Governor Alikhanov to

59:13

come by bicycle, by scooter, on foot, or even in a

59:17

black Mercedes with a flashing light, to come to

59:19

our rally, and I promise that he will have

59:23

the chance to speak, to state his point

59:26

of view, to object to me, to debate me.

59:28

If he does that, it will be very, very

59:31

cool.

59:34

Yes, I can see the app map showing

59:39

which ones were launched during the broadcast—it's

59:41

really encouraging. Quite a lot of people

59:42

have downloaded our app. Guys, at the beginning

59:46

of the broadcast I said—sorry—in the description

59:52

of this video there's a link to the

59:54

Navalny Live app. Download it,

59:56

and you'll be able to watch and listen to all our

59:59

broadcasts there like radio, watch them via

1:00:01

YouTube, and soon you'll also be able to read there,

1:00:02

because we'll be posting

1:00:05

transcripts. Alexander from Makovoye asks:

1:00:07

Alexei, tomorrow in Barnaul at 6:00 p.m.

1:00:10

there will be a pro-government rally at the stadium

1:00:11

in support of the Olympians. Let's see where

1:00:13

people go. Excellent—I'll actually

1:00:16

be in Barnaul tomorrow evening. There will be

1:00:18

a rally in support of the Olympians, and you

1:00:21

live in Barnaul, so I won't be able to

1:00:23

deceive you. Just see for yourselves how many people

1:00:25

come voluntarily to the rally in support of

1:00:27

the Olympians. I know that the authorities in

1:00:29

Barnaul—

1:00:30

I know how they'll drive people to

1:00:32

that rally. But maybe I'm wrong.

1:00:33

Maybe only three people will come to me,

1:00:35

and thousands will go there. But that's an excellent

1:00:39

way to check. But if after this

1:00:41

event we see on university forums and

1:00:44

everywhere else people discussing how everyone was forced

1:00:46

and herded into the rally in support of the Olympians,

1:00:48

then once again we'll see just how pathetic

1:00:51

and insignificant

1:00:52

this government is, how in reality it

1:00:54

can't really oppose us at all.

1:00:58

Ben Brod Buterbrod asks: Alexei, aren't you going

1:01:01

to get ready for tomorrow by

1:01:02

buying glasses, or at least some old

1:01:06

pirate-style eye patch? Well, you've just reminded me

1:01:09

that the first time I was actually splashed with

1:01:11

zelyonka (a bright green antiseptic often used in attacks on activists) was in Barnaul.

1:01:13

That time it didn't cause much harm to

1:01:15

my health.

1:01:16

Well, I'd look rather

1:01:18

exotic, imagine, if I showed up

1:01:20

in some big black glasses or

1:01:22

some kind of welder's goggles, or even

1:01:24

an eye patch, in order to

1:01:26

protect myself from the devious authorities

1:01:29

of Barnaul. No, I

1:01:31

I'm not afraid, and I'll come as I am. But

1:01:34

I will wear a hat, because it'll be minus

1:01:37

13 or minus 15 degrees Celsius.

1:01:40

So once again: tomorrow I'll be speaking in Barnaul,

1:01:43

the day after tomorrow I'll be speaking in

1:01:44

Novokuznetsk, and on Sunday I'll be

1:01:47

speaking in Kaliningrad, because I am a

1:01:49

presidential candidate. I am running my

1:01:51

election campaign. I don't know what the

1:01:54

other candidates are doing, so

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please come. And as for all of you,

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all the other viewers, we'll

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see each other next Thursday. I'll tell you

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what was interesting, and we'll discuss

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a few things again. Thank you very much, happy—

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