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It’s 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, which means that here in the studio
I’m Alexei Navalny, here to
discuss with you the latest news of this
week. And today I’m in the studio not as a
“moron,” as Dmitry Medvedev called me,
but as a visiting
“troublemaker,” as the governor of
the Samara region called me, where I held our
really great rally. I’ll say a few more words about it
a little later. This week
there’s just been a whole pile of news.
Putin announced his candidacy, there’s the Olympics, and
we’ll try to talk about all of it, but
first I have an announcement — a super
mega-news, of course much more
important than Putin announcing his candidacy.
Too bad for him.
We’ve finally made a mobile
app for Navalny Live. You can
go to the Apple Store and download it.
Right now the app is for iOS, and it works like a radio:
you can listen there
to any episode. For example, in the morning you can
just ride the metro or drive your car and
listen to *Cactus* through your headphones. You can
listen to this program like a radio show, you can
watch things there, and very soon you’ll even be able to
read there too — we’ll be posting
transcripts of our programs. For now
this app is available only for iOS,
that is, for iPhones. We hope that in
a week we’ll have it ready for Android. I
asked our developers whether we could
or should wait so that we could release it
for iPhone and Android at the same time.
The developers said, “You know,
Alexei, Android users are used
to suffering, so no, nothing terrible
will happen if we split it up and first
release the app for iPhone.”
But everyone else only has a little bit more
suffering left — next week we’ll
publish it. Besides that, I wanted to say
that we think we’ve been fairly successful,
that these fundraising tests
live on air went well. On the last
program I raised — thank you very much —
half a million rubles (about 5,000 euros / 5,400 US dollars), and I was very pleased.
Mediazona raised money here before that,
Volkov raised money, and we’ll keep
doing it. It can be done during every broadcast.
Of course, I’m not going to spend every show
doing that and giving away prizes, although I
admit it’s pretty fun — the broadcast
gets pretty lively.
But whatever we raise, we raise.
So the GIFs, when you send
some money, will keep
popping up over my head — funny ones — but
we’re not going to set some strict target. But if we
raise 100,000 rubles (about 1,000 euros / 1,100 US dollars), that’s 100,000 newspapers
that people will receive in their hands. In those
newspapers there will be truthful
information that they won’t get anywhere except
from us. So as before,
all sorts of icons will appear right here
showing how much money has been raised
and how the fundraising is going. This fundraising is
the most important part of our
election campaign. Of course, the main
thing that happened
was Vladimir Putin’s nomination. This
was something we were all expecting, and
we all understood it would happen, and already with
heavy sarcasm everyone was discussing when
it would happen, what exactly would happen, and why
it still hadn’t happened. And various political analysts
kept writing endlessly, kept endlessly
saying that maybe, just maybe,
there was some other plan, maybe something
else would happen, maybe someone else
would be the successor — Manturov, Medvedev, someone else,
some relatives perhaps. And then once again,
for the hundred and forty-first time, just like throughout
all these 18 years, Putin nominated himself anyway. Yes,
there was a time when Medvedev was president, but Putin
became prime minister then, and we
once again saw clearly last night. And guys, I
urge all of you
to understand this point very clearly and
remember it, and never again give in
to any speculation that maybe
there’s some Plan B, and maybe somehow
they’ll change their strategy. There is no
strategy other than lifelong
presidency for Putin.
That’s it. Nothing else exists. Everything this man thinks about
is how to become, in effect,
a monarch in Russia and remain
that monarch of Russia for as long as possible, until
his death,
and then pass on power — I’m convinced of it —
preferably to some of his own
relatives. We will yet see times, if
we do not resist this, when
Putin will try to hand the throne to his
son-in-law, his grandson, his son, or
someone else, because this new feudalism
is something he is building completely openly, and
that kind of succession to the throne fits
perfectly within the logic of what he is doing.
You can already see a feudal
state being built, where the children of
FSB chiefs work in state banks, where
the children of Putin’s friends work in
various state structures. This
is already a new aristocracy as it is.
They believe this is the right way to do things
and they will keep working on it. Quite
interestingly, with the nomination itself they
apparently planned several events
at each of which it could have
taken place. Everyone knew about this nomination,
everyone expected it,
and again there was a lot of various funny
analysts and
there were assumptions that within the movement
something would happen, and with us it happened among the volunteers
the volunteers, but it happened a little later. I
suggest we watch a minute of it. It’s very
interesting to watch when he almost
said it at the volunteers’ congress, but
he played coy a little, with a shrugging kind of
gesture, as if asking, “Will you support me, guys?”
The guys said, “We support you.” We now know
how these people were gathered for the volunteer
congress, and a little later, at the
meeting with GAZ workers, Putin said that
he simply could not remain indifferent after the
heart-rending cries of “GAZ is for you!” and
announced that he would run.
A short video—let’s watch. “Please tell me,
will you take part
in the 2018 election, run for the post
of president?”
“If I make that decision, will you and the people
who share your outlook
support that decision? At the volunteers’ forum
you were asked whether you would
put forward your candidacy in the
presidential election.”
And you answered that if the people support you,
they support you.
then you will. So today, in this hall,
everyone without exception supports you.
Vladimir, give us a gift already
and announce your decision, because we are for you.”
“GAZ is for you.” Thank you.
“Thank you very much. Truly, a better
place and
a better occasion to announce this
probably do not exist. Thank you for your support.
I will put forward my candidacy for the
office of President of the Russian
Federation.” “Vladimir Vladimirovich, please
give us this gift—announce your decision.”
Well, it was quite
disgusting to watch
something like that—just a circus
of servility and bootlicking. But this is
exactly the style of our current
government. By the way, it’s quite interesting
to remember that last time Putin
staged roughly the same kind of performance
at Uralvagonzavod (a major Russian tank and railcar manufacturer). “We are
workers of Uralvagonzavod, we are for you, under your
leadership we will reach some kind of
wonderful lofty heights.” During this term
under Putin, what happened to Uralvagonzavod was
simply catastrophic.
Just look—go to the database
of arbitration cases and see how
Uralvagonzavod was litigating with Alfa there.
It gives figures showing the horrifying state
of Uralvagonzavod, its debts—that is,
the enterprise is simply at the bottom,
in a very, very deep pit, and this is a direct
result of these four years
of Putin’s presidency. And with GAZ, I’m sure, unfortunately
exactly the same thing will happen. Here
the grin on my face appears because
someone paid money
the same thing will happen, unfortunately, because
these next six years will become
if Putin wins, they will become yet another
period of missed opportunities for
Russia and our gradual, or perhaps more
abrupt, descent into a pit from which
it will be very hard to climb out later.
Today, some of you may have
seen that Meduza (an independent Russian media outlet) launched a kind of game.
It’s interesting: you enter your age and it
gives you a card showing how many years you’ve
what percentage of your life you have lived
under Putin. I have lived 43 percent
of my life under Putin. But then I
looked on Twitter, and there were many
people saying, you know, “I’ve lived my whole life under
Putin. I’ve lived 99 percent
of my life under Putin.” And I, by the way,
it’s 43 percent for me—but I still remember
the old days. Lyosha Navalny (a diminutive of Alexei Navalny) still
remembers that there was once a Leonid Ilyich
Brezhnev, and even so, 43 percent of my
life I have lived under Putin. So I
advise everyone to enter their date of birth
into this game and think about this
number, because the intention of these guys in the
Kremlin is clear: there will be no successors there again.
He wants to rule until death, and then
pass his power on to some
relative, heir, or
something of that sort. And our common task
right now is not to treat this with
irony and giggling,
not to disguise our cowardice or
our unwillingness to do anything by pretending that we are just
laughing at it. The task of every
citizen of Russia is to protest this,
to oppose it, and to do something right
now—to make your small contribution, any
contribution, a tiny contribution, perhaps barely
noticeable, but still make your contribution so
that this does not happen. There is a very high
probability that it will happen anyway,
but someday, when in some new
Meduza game you see that 99 percent
of your life has passed under Putin, at least
you will be able to say to yourself:
“I was against this, and it is not my fault.”
This is the most important thing that everyone should,
it seems to me, think through now and should
act on. I’m very interested in what form
Vladimir Putin’s election
campaign will take. Will he
have to get rallies approved? Will he
have to get pickets approved too? Equality
among candidates will presumably exist, you know.
He will probably face fairly serious difficulties,
because in a large number of major cities
it is simply impossible to hold
rallies there at all, it is simply impossible
to hold meetings with voters, well
for example, in southern Russia
Krasnodar, Rostov-on-Don — I haven't managed to get there yet
I wasn't able to do that
It's interesting whether Putin will manage it. I
last weekend was absolutely
an amazing part of our tour. We had
Saratov, Pskov, and Samara, and in both Saratov and
Samara there were attempts to disrupt the rally. We
had to hold something practically
with a megaphone, you know — very strange
but very inspiring, because I
really saw thousands of people who
took part in all of this despite
the fact that half of what I was saying
couldn't be heard because Samara City Hall
dragged in some speakers and
drowned me out with Eastern music
in the literal sense. It was very funny
when cops and officials are hauling
speakers and blasting Eastern music for
belly dancing just to drown out
me — nobody understands what all this is for
It looks terribly ridiculous and shameful for
the authorities. This is happening, and this
pettiness of the authorities and their shameful actions
also — well, they stand out perfectly against
the backdrop of these wonderful people who
come to the rally. Once again, many
thanks to everyone. As for my immediate plans, right
after the broadcast, I'm flying overnight to Barnaul
or rather, I'm flying to Novosibirsk so that I can
drive to Barnaul, and from Barnaul I'll
drive to Novokuznetsk. Russia
is structured in such a way that it's fairly
difficult to travel between
cities, but we're doing this work, I am doing this
work. So this weekend I have
Barnaul
Novokuznetsk, and then Kaliningrad. And in
Barnaul and Novokuznetsk it's minus 15°C (5°F), and that will be
very interesting for all of us to see
what kind of rallies, what kind of meetings with
voters will be possible when it's no longer just
below freezing — I'm talking about
seriously subzero temperatures
But in any case, come if you live
in these cities. These meetings matter, and again
we'll see, I think, a striking
difference between how we manage to
organize these meetings, which
we simply have to wrest from
each city's administration, but people
come to them on their own, despite the threats
and the meetings that will be held by
Putin — if he holds them at all —
where people will simply be herded in
and permits will be brought on a silver platter
with a blue rim. Putin's nomination in
Nizhny Novgorod, for me personally, had another
interesting aspect, because
Nizhny Novgorod — and in Nizhny Novgorod
well, probably a kilometer from the place where
Putin was being nominated for president, sitting in jail
right now, feeling down, probably reading a book,
is Leonid Volkov, the head of my
campaign headquarters, who was on a completely
obviously fabricated case thrown
behind bars. Why? Let me just
explain in more detail why Volkov was jailed
We are going to have the nomination process
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for presidential candidates. This is a procedure
that goes through a formal
initiative group. We will need to
gather 500 people, get a notary,
and carry out this fairly complicated
procedure in order to be nominated. It isn't simple,
it's expensive, it requires major
organizational and legal efforts, and
of course the Kremlin and Putin very much want
to derail it. That's why Volkov is sitting
there. And there he is, sitting a kilometer from
the place where Putin is talking about how he
is running in the election, how these elections are fair, and
how he fears no one and will defeat
everyone. But he is afraid — afraid of that very
man
Volkov, who is sitting somewhere nearby in a
cell reading a book, just as he is afraid of all of us
They are very afraid. So I've said this a million
times, and I'll repeat it once again: don't
let yourselves be intimidated by these approval ratings —
84 percent, 86 percent, 90 percent. They
don't exist. It's all just made-up ratings
pulled out of thin air. People have gotten used to saying:
an authoritarian country, 18 years in power, this
man — and for the last five years people have simply been
jailed very often for expressing
any kind of independent opinion, so people
don't say anything else, they don't want
to speak — but they think very differently
So don't let them mess with your head — there
aren't any real percentages of support there
In that same Nizhny
Novgorod
they gave me a place to speak —
the Sormovsky District, several
kilometers from the center, on the other bank of the Volga
and yet thousands of people came to
the meeting. I wonder whether those same thousands would come to Putin
for a meeting if they
weren't being driven there by force or
paid to do it. Alexei, I've been asking
for half a year now, half a year: what will you
do about tariffs, specifically
car import duties? You can't answer the question
of what you will do with customs
duties in general without depending on
what exactly those duties are on. As for car
duties, I believe they are unnecessary
simply because over
the past decades we
have had the experience of introducing these duties, but
they do not work. As you can see, our auto industry
alas, is not thriving despite the fact
that we have imposed these duties so many times
really, really many times. Vlad, you
have been asked this question, but still, how would you
Will you change the laws concerning LGBT people and give
these people freedom? Vlad, I have
indeed answered many times: all people
are equal. We do not need any laws
that restrict the rights of any
specific groups of people, LGBT people or anyone else.
Therefore, laws that discriminate against people
are, in principle,
contrary to the Constitution
and must be repealed immediately. Evgeny,
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I had to take part in a rally in support of
Putin in 2012. I cannot
refuse, because I worked in the public sector. What
should people in my current position do? How
can they resist? Evgeny, just don’t go. But back in
2012, everyone was being forced
they forced workers there, Russian Post employees,
employees of state institutions. They
were told:
"You must come for sure, otherwise we’ll punish you."
But they would also say, "We’ll give you a day off as well."
Most often, that worked. And those who
didn’t go—nothing happened to them, but
they simply didn’t get the extra day off. We don’t know
of cases where someone didn’t go to
a pro-Putin rally and was fired. You can always
say: "I don’t want to go. If I go, it will only
cause problems. I’m sick, I
don’t want to, it disgusts me, and you have no right
to force me." And they will leave you alone.
If you simply say one straightforward thing:
"Guys, I’m against Putin. Do you really need
someone at your rally who is against
Putin and might talk about it? If that’s what you need,
then fine—but otherwise leave me alone." And that always
works.
No one is standing there with a gun to your head.
There are enough public-sector employees there whom they can
round up.
One person more or less changes nothing.
So if you tell your
boss calmly, honestly, and directly:
"Sorry, this goes against my
convictions. I can’t go, I simply
can’t."
"Scold me if you want, but I can’t." No one is going to drag you there,
nothing will happen to you. These are all
just words,
promises, intimidation. But in reality
no one gets fired. You just need to have
the strength to say it to yourself. Tim Androsov, Alexei,
[unclear text] of our state or not? I
don’t really understand what "re-establish" means
in relation to our state.
But if you mean the Constitution—
I think the Constitution in Russia is bad, and right now it does not
work. Under the Constitution, Russia
is a federal state, but in practice
it is unitary. Under Russia’s Constitution,
it is a democracy; in practice, Russia is a monarchy. And
now this same person wants to be elected again,
which would mean 24 years in power. So in
that sense,
we need to change the foundations of our
state—if you like, in a certain
sense, to re-found Russia—in order
to create a mechanism under which
a person would not be able to usurp power,
whether that person is Navalny,
Vasichkin, or anyone else—they should not be able
to usurp power. That is what needs to be done—
in that sense, to re-found it. Evgeny,
Alexei Navalny, where is the promised post
about your favorite books? Every
cool presidential candidate has their own
top list of books they recommend
for reading. Every cool candidate
has published such a list. Well, actually, I did promise
on air that I would post a list
of what I read
the last time I was in the special detention center (a temporary detention facility), and I also
read a lot.
Some things I liked more, some
I liked less. Probably someone
will find that interesting. I’ll post it—sorry,
I forgot. Let’s take a couple more questions. You
send questions on Twitter with the hashtag
#Navalny2018, and I answer them. Anatoly
Panferov: "For the first time, it felt so good
to give my money to your campaign,
even though it was only 100 rubles." How nice. If it feels good for you
to donate, imagine how good it feels for us to receive it.
Anatoly, you won’t believe it, but actually
it matters. It is the only source of funding for our
campaign. One hundred rubles, one hundred rubles at a time—
that pays for newspapers; it is a substantial thing. If those donations
weren’t there, there would be zero left. But it’s great, isn’t it?
The account "For Navalny" asks:
Bastrykin proposed that people accused of
corruption should prove the origin of their
property.
Well, first of all, Bastrykin should prove
the origin of his own property, especially
his property in the Czech Republic. Second,
this should not apply only to those accused of
corruption, but to all officials who cannot
say where they got this
property. They should have to prove its
origin. That would be right. This is
Article 20 of the UN Convention; it is what we
included in a draft law a long time ago,
and collected signatures for it, as many
probably remember. But the Kremlin
categorically, categorically refuses to adopt it. Ilya Vorobyov, Alexei, will
you cooperate with Elon Musk?
Will you cooperate with Elon Musk?
Will you begin developing the market for
alternative energy sources? Well, what
does it even mean to "cooperate with Elon Musk"?
Like: "Hey, Elon Musk, please build a Hyper
loop here to Avtozavodskaya metro station
so it will be more convenient for us
to get to San Francisco"? Unfortunately,
Russia is currently structured in such a way that
no real high technology
is possible here. The only thing that works here
is that kind of Chubais-style shell game, and some kind of...
So these things—none of what
Musk does, which is in fact
high technology, however successfully it may once have been
or less successfully—cannot be implemented in Russia right now.
But our task is
to bring about changes in the country such that
Elon Musk
a real Russian Elon Musk
by the way—and in my view, Elon Musk
they can and will be able to develop these things here,
and in our media too
we will discuss not how the FSB (Russia’s security service) decided that
all people who play video game consoles
must register their phone numbers,
but instead we will actually discuss how, in
Russia, brilliant scientists have emerged,
brilliant entrepreneurs who
are implementing technologies the whole world is talking about.
Everyone is talking about the Hyperloop,
everyone is talking about his rockets, everyone is talking about Tesla.
And what do they discuss about Russia? Doping at the
Olympics. What else do they talk about today?
Nothing else, really. This is the most important
task.
If there are any comments regarding
the situation unfolding around
Saakashvili in Kyiv, Gleb Silchenko asks me.
Well, it seems to me that what
is happening around Saakashvili is
quite shameful for the authorities in Kyiv,
for the Ukrainian authorities.
You know, I do not comment on Ukrainian issues very often here.
I understand very well the feelings of many Ukrainian citizens
who come into the comments every time
and say:
“Don’t teach us, we know everything ourselves.”
And yes, you do know your own affairs; I am not trying
to teach you. This is simply my assessment.
You can carry out as many reforms as you like,
you can do all sorts of things, but then
you start chasing your former governor across rooftops somewhere,
trying to catch him,
trying to jail him, and it is obvious to everyone that
this is politically motivated.
It is obvious to everyone that the people currently in
power—Petro Poroshenko and his circle—do not
want Saakashvili to engage in
politics,
to create his own party,
or, I don’t know, run for president,
or influence the authorities in any way. They do not
want that, and for this purpose they
are using this kind of police-and-courts
mechanism. It looks extremely unpleasant.
It looks extremely shameful. It seems to me this is
simply unworthy of the authorities in Kyiv.
And, in fact, there has already been a reaction to this
from Europe and the United States,
and they have all said: “Guys, you are not
fighting corruption;
you are busy fighting Saakashvili,”
and this will not lead to anything good.
In fact, it really will not lead to anything good.
Unfortunately, it seems to me that
the Saakashvili situation shows how
the beautiful Ukraine of the future
that Ukrainian citizens were fighting for
on the Maidan (the 2013–2014 protest movement in Kyiv) and elsewhere
is moving farther away. What is happening shows that, sadly,
there will be no easy transition for them.
I am sure that sooner or later they will reach
that point when there will be
a normal democratic state
in Ukraine, but that point
is becoming more and more distant.
The actions around Saakashvili show
that it is receding quite dramatically.
It is being pushed much farther away here.
Alexei, I’m finishing school and want to apply
to a teacher-training university to become a history teacher.
Understanding that under Putin it is impossible to be
a teacher and survive on the salary,
that is simply unrealistic—what should be done about teachers’ salaries?
An excellent question. According to Putin-era
statistics, teachers in Russia supposedly
earn a fairly decent average salary,
something like 35,000–36,000 rubles per month
(roughly $380–$390). In practice, you would have a hard time finding a teacher,
except perhaps in Moscow, who
earns more than 21,000 rubles
(about $230), and you will find plenty of teachers who work
one and a half full-time loads and still receive
only 17,000–18,000 rubles
(about $185–$195). Even if we set aside the standard points,
the standard correct things to say—that this is shameful,
that it is impossible to live on this kind of money—
all of that is true. But it is also absolutely stupid and
irrational. You need to invest in education.
If you do not invest in
education, then you lose money
and, as a state, you lose in the medium term.
So this is unquestionably
a crucial part of my program:
education, and increasing spending on
education twofold. There is enough money in the Russian
budget. This is a basic
point of my program, and I will talk about it
a lot. I recently recorded a special
video about it. In other words, until
we increase the budgets for
education and healthcare twofold, and until we
radically increase
salaries,
Just look at somewhere like Liechtenstein—or
at where some of the highest salaries among mass professions are.
Teachers in Singapore, for example—teachers there
earn around 8,000 to 10,000 euros
per month.
Why? Because it makes sense. The money
invested in teachers later
returns to the budget in the form of taxes
paid by people who received
a good education. Here is another question I received:
a tweet with questions about the Olympics.
Alexei, Natalie asks: what do you think about
Russia competing at the Olympics under
a white flag? Yes, I wanted to talk about that.
Russia and the Olympics.
Look at the question this way to begin with:
did the committee act properly?
Was the Olympic Committee's decision a harsh one
toward Russia?
Was it unfair to us?
Was there some element here
of removing Russia as a competitor at
the Olympics,
or was it actually
a fair decision? I thought about this myself for a long time.
I kept thinking it over, and for myself
I ran a kind of thought
experiment in my head. Let me
just share that thought
experiment with you so we can understand
why this happened. Because on the one hand,
look, the International
Olympic Committee
is a pretty corrupt outfit, frankly.
Let's be honest: the Olympic movement is
basically a gathering of sports officials,
and a gathering of fairly serious crooks.
Putin was always on very friendly terms with them.
He could get any issue settled there.
With the help of bribes, he bought
the Olympics that were held in Sochi,
and with bribes he solved issues in exactly the same way
with football officials as well,
and the FIFA World Cup that
was held in Russia, of course, came here
because we were handing out bribes left and right.
And in all dealings
with sports
officials, everything was always great for Putin.
They like him; they all speak
the same language. So what happened this
time? Let's imagine it wasn't in Sochi
that the Winter Olympics were held, but, say, in
Romania. So the Olympics took place in Romania, and
we sent our
athletes to Romania, hoping they would bring back
medals. These athletes trained hard, pushed themselves to the limit,
their coaches worked with them, their relatives
supported them.
So we were rooting for our athletes
who went to the Olympics in Romania, and
then imagine that somehow
the Romanians suddenly took a whole pile of
gold, silver, and bronze medals,
more than usual, far more than
usual, including in disciplines
where they normally did not
win.
And everyone is whispering, everyone is talking about it,
and everyone understands it's about doping, and we
start remembering those famous
Norwegian 'asthmatics' and all that, and so
on. But there is an international
anti-doping system, and somehow it
checked everything and found nothing, so
people whisper and whisper, but there's nothing
to be done: we congratulated the Romanians
and went home to prepare better for
the next Olympics.
And then two years later it turns out that
the president of Romania
had organized an entire system
of state-sponsored doping,
under which Romania's sports minister
directly organized the cheating,
security-service people—whatever their equivalent there would be called—
through holes in the walls
swapped urine samples; there was a whole system
for falsifying sample bottles and
tampering with tests and everything else. In other words,
we discovered that the entire Romanian
state had in fact been working
to steal our medals, and we were
shocked and refused to believe it at first.
Then they said: yes, the anti-doping commission may be dubious,
but go check. They checked
and established that in some tests the DNA
should have been female but was male—some kind of
horrific abuse, irregularities, all sorts of violations,
and complete chaos overall. They opened those
samples and confirmed that indeed
—can you imagine?—those
Romanians had simply falsified
doping samples on a massive scale, and our athletes, our
Russian athletes, had no
chance at all against them, because
from the very beginning everything had been designed
for cheating. They organized the Olympics, and at
that Olympics, from the very start, they planned
to deceive all of us. So what would happen at that
moment to Russian public opinion?
We would all go absolutely crazy. We would be
furious.
On talk shows, all those United Russia politicians and, well, whoever else
—Vladimir Solovyov among them—would be
screeching, tearing at their clothes, and
in general they would, in a sense, be right to
shout: 'Well, would you look at that—those Romanians
have some nerve!' Zhirik (Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Russian nationalist politician) would come out and say:
'We need to drop an atomic bomb on Romania,
because they stole medals from
our athletes.' Sports federations,
coaches, the athletes themselves,
their relatives—they would all simply demand
that Romania be excluded forever, from everywhere, that no one
from there ever be allowed in again,
that the entire country and all
its people be thrown out of the Olympic movement.
Some athletes would be receiving
their medals later. They'd get a call: 'Hello,
athlete Ivanov, you finished
fourth, but since there was
cheating, please come to the post office from 9
to 6 to collect your gold medal.
Sign here. You're now a gold
medalist.' What does the athlete feel at that moment?
Well, he actually wanted to win.
He wanted to stand on the podium and cry,
with all his
relatives watching him, and his neighbors from
his little hometown, and the girl
who dumped him back in school looking at him
and thinking, 'What an idiot I was.' He won, and he...
a gold medalist, and he missed that moment
and is receiving his medal in the mail
why? because some damn Romanians, poor guy
the Romanian embassy will probably send me
a note of protest later. We used Romania as an example,
as an example, Romanians
no offense, hypothetical Romanians, because
those hypothetical damn Romanians just
forged everything, and that is why
such a decision was made, regardless of
whether some people at the IOC could have
reached some kind of agreement with Putin,
talked something over, arranged something — the force
of public opinion from
athletes, from the press, from all
countries, was such that it was impossible
to do anything else, and the IOC could not
possibly have made any other decision
except to suspend Russia. We have not yet been
completely suspended, except that Russia was seriously
punished for creating
a state-run doping system. Here, I
have it right here — I printed it out because
it is already being quoted in newspapers. I am just
looking at the Olympic Committee press release,
and notice this: they
write that they are accepting the recommendation
of the Schmid Commission.
Essentially, the decision consists
in taking
fairly tough measures against
Russia’s anti-doping system and
other legally implicated persons, that is,
officials, while in fact protecting
the rights of individual Russian athletes
against whom there are no doping allegations in
that sense. But the Olympic Committee’s decision
looks fairly
balanced, considering that
public opinion, naturally and quite
justifiably, in those countries
is simply furious and demands that we
never be allowed back again. We bear
the main responsibility for what
happened. It is indeed a major blow
to Russian sport.
Fortunately, the officials did make
after all
a somewhat reasonable decision: to agree
to go to the Olympics
even if it means competing under the Olympic flag.
And really, that is not some great tragedy.
No, but it will still be recorded as
a Russian athlete achieved this
result. Yes, he competes under
the Olympic flag, but that does not immediately mean
he is not a Russian athlete. On the last day
of the Olympics, at the closing ceremony, they will still
have the right, if possible, to march with
flags and national symbols as
a unified Russian team. So yes,
there is punishment, but it is not
some kind of extreme humiliation, considering
the wrongdoing. And the wrongdoing was committed by two
specific people, and their names are
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Mutko — I do not
remember his first name and patronymic
— but these two specific people, these
two specific criminals, they
did all this. They inflicted
a colossal blow on Russian sport
that for years
will continue to affect us, our
reputation, and many athletes who
were suspended. After all, it is a four-year
cycle.
Many simply will never again be able
to compete in the Olympics — those who were
suspended because of all these doping
matters. They did this. Well, let us
we
I am completely serious:
Mutko could not have been giving orders to the FSB (Russia’s security service) through
a hole in the wall
to steal a urine sample. That could not have happened.
This was organized personally by Putin.
It was his idea, his eternal
idea that cheating,
deception, and theft are effective
ways of solving problems. And, broadly speaking,
for a while they did show
their effectiveness.
As I already said, they paid bribes
and got the World Cup; they paid bribes
and got the Olympics. Everyone is outraged, everyone
is up in arms,
but if you are not caught, you are not a thief — that is how it
worked. And then they decided, well,
let us just, right now, through a hole in
the wall, swap everything out. They came up with what they thought
was a brilliant trick, but it did not
work. It was a fiasco, and all of
that fiasco is reflected on us. And these
people — Mutko, who repeatedly said
that he would resign
if the Russian national team were somehow
punished over participation in the Olympics — still
has not resigned. He remains
a deputy prime minister and is
a trusted associate. But why? Because he is also
from the St. Petersburg mayor’s office
days with Putin — Mutko, all their petty
corrupt dealings with Putin began
back then, together in St. Petersburg.
That is why he truly is
a super-trusted person, exactly the kind
you can sit down with and say, well, let us
just, you know, right now cover things up
somehow for all our athletes.
Come on, Vladimir Vladimirovich, arrange it,
just call the FSB there and tell them
to help me, all right? And that is why he remains
in office. I think that, of course, we all
must demand unconditionally not just
his resignation, but criminal prosecution
of Mutko, because what he did is
a formal criminal
offense under Russian law.
under the law, what Zhukov brought was
an apology to the international committee; the fact that
we will pay a fine is de facto
an acknowledgment of a system of state-sponsored
doping, and Mutko should go to prison, but
at the same time, we must not forget that
the main responsibility lies with Putin
it was he who dealt a colossal blow to
Russian sports.
So you keep writing to me about the Olympics.
Let me see how you envision—not about
the Olympics—news channels in the future.
Lilian To The Dares asks me: will there
be people like Sergei
Druzhko working there? 1. Don’t you think Sergei Druzhko
could work on a news channel? Well, although
why not? But those would be interesting
news broadcasts—I’d watch them. Could, couldn’t...
someone from the FSB (Russia’s security service)... Anyway, about the Olympics, about
the Olympics, there are a huge number of questions.
I just don’t see—Ivan Grigoryev, also known as
helicopter. Alexei, according to the Constitution,
you have the right to run for
president, but according to the law on presidential elections,
of the President of Russia, you do not. What should be done? For the 100,000
trillionth time, I’m answering this question.
Ivan Grigoryev.
First, a law has no right
to contradict the
Constitution. Second, these fake
provisions of this law have been struck down by the Constitutional
Court and declared unconstitutional
five times. Therefore, this law is
simply a legal absurdity. It
is full of holes, and most importantly, we need to
remember to look at the substance of it.
A criminal case was fabricated against me.
I proved that in the European Court.
They then illegally handed down the same repeated
sentence and adopted this
unconstitutional law. Therefore, regardless
of the fact that some
crooks—like that Mutko fellow, only
you know, the kind of shady operators who deal
not with sports but with elections—have written exactly the same
doping system into these laws,
none of this means that I somehow
do not have the legal right to do something. It’s just that
the law is bogus and unconstitutional. In the
Constitution it is written in black and white, and that is what
we look at. It says: 35 years old, not
being in places of deprivation of liberty
has the right to participate in—sorry, to run in
has the right to participate in elections.
Is the date known for the consideration of your
complaint to the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights) regarding the decision in
the second Kirovles case? Maksim Klimovsky.
I’ll say again: it’s still unknown. What is known is that
it has been registered, but we do not know—I do not know
when it will be reviewed. Demetrios de...
Alexei, have you thought about cryptocurrencies, how
they will be regulated? When I see the
Bitcoin exchange rate, I think about cryptocurrency
all the time, naturally, like everyone else.
Right now I’m thinking: what an idiot, I should have
bought that Bitcoin. I even tried
at one point to open a Bitcoin wallet, and
a few years ago I just gave up on it.
If only I had bought one
Bitcoin back then and forgotten about it, then now
it would already be worth $19,000.
Today I saw an amusing calculation:
if you had bought it yesterday,
Bitcoin, and sold it 30 minutes later,
you would already have made thousands of dollars. But
cryptocurrencies are great; I view them positively.
I do not think they should be
banned or regulated. Honestly,
even now, at this stage,
when Bitcoin is just shooting off somewhere
and rising 30 percent a day, I regard it with great
skepticism. I don’t want
to give any investment advice,
but I would be cautious about buying now, although
it is entirely possible that later,
in two years, they’ll show this
video and say, ha ha ha, if you
had bought Bitcoin then at $19,000,
you would have a million by now. Maybe
that will happen, maybe not. But still,
right now it feels a bit scary. We remember
all those MMM tickets and shares (MMM was a notorious Russian pyramid scheme),
I’m not comparing them directly in any way,
of course; in essence I’m not comparing them,
they are different things. But still, in
the history of our country there have been financial
instruments that grew that quickly, and well,
personally, I would be cautious right now
about buying, although it is quite possible that
I’ll regret it. Yakovlev Alexei. Alexei, you
support a visa regime with Central
Asia and visa-free travel with Europe. Isn’t it true that
African and other immigrants might flood
to us from Europe, people whom old
Europe would be glad to get rid of? Alexei, but
just imagine this: a migrant is living
freely from Africa in Paris or
Brussels,
and then thinks, how could I go flooding
over
to Yaroslavl, perhaps, or maybe I’ll go
to the city of Barnaul, where I will be
speaking tomorrow, and which is
one of the poorest cities in the country.
They won’t flood in, they won’t, because, look,
we were discussing teachers’ salaries here.
There are teachers here who, for a full
working day at one and a half positions, earn 15,000
rubles—14,000 rubles (about $240–$260 at the time).
Unemployment benefits in Europe for
an African migrant would be higher than
a teacher’s salary here. So there is no need
to be afraid that they will flood in. We should introduce
a visa-free regime with Europe in order to
make it easier for foreign tourists
and specialists to come here. These are people with money; they
will come here, they will spend money, they will not
make us richer than Central Asia, and
What the South Caucasus needs is not to wall itself off, but...
...simply to establish a visa regime that...
...exists in all normal countries...
...in their relations with other countries...
...from which we simply do not want to receive, in large numbers...
...migrants. Alexei,
what do you think about Saakashvili’s wife?
asks Golden Karas. I know nothing...
about Saakashvili’s wife, and I have no...
opinion, but I hope everything is fine with them.
Saakashvili: will the retirement age be lowered...
and the minimum years of service required...
to receive a pension? But lowering the retirement age...
is unlikely. Perhaps the question was more likely...
meant to be about raising...
the retirement age. I am opposed to...
raising the retirement age for two...
reasons. First, in our country people simply do not...
live to retirement age in...
huge numbers. So if we...
raise the retirement age, then...
no one will even manage to retire...
before dying. And second,
the state of healthcare is such that...
half of the people approaching...
retirement age, even under the current rules, are...
already officially disabled, and...
they will be granted pensions anyway, on the basis of...
disability. Of course, we can try...
to force them to work until 65 or 70...
but in practice that simply...
will not work because of their...
health. So the real prospects here...
lie in increasing labor productivity. But they see...
raising the retirement age simply...
as, for the Russian government,
an easy solution: let’s just...
raise the retirement age, and then...
we’ll simply have to pay fewer pensions.
A lot of people will not live to see it. But that...
may be a solution, you know...
if this is some kind of occupying power...
governing some colonized natives.
But if this is your own country and you are doing something...
for your own people, then things like this...
must not be done. Alexei, Alexei German asks me:
is your tie in the official...
Russian Olympic color scheme?
Well, it is white, blue, dark blue...
and red, so you could say that, but no...
it would be nice right now...
to tell a beautiful lie and say that I put it on...
to support the Olympic...
team, this tie—but still...
it is not exactly those colors.
Lyosha, we’re waiting for you in Kaliningrad. I also very much...
want to finally get to Kaliningrad, and...
I’ll be there on Sunday. As I understand it...
the venue where we’ll be speaking is...
right in the city center. Come...
and let’s talk—I’ll speak with you about...
everything. Alexei, what is your view of...
Kudrin, his resignation, and his speeches at...
Bolotnaya (the anti-government protest movement centered on Moscow’s Bolotnaya Square)? He seemed to be a decent economist.
Things got much worse without him, writes...
Pavel Volodin. With Kudrin...
or without Kudrin, this government...
is pursuing a certain course.
Kudrin, at one point, simply had a falling-out...
with Medvedev because Medvedev...
advocated increasing military-industrial...
spending, while Kudrin argued for reducing it.
So they parted ways; they could not coexist in one...
government. But overall, one cannot say that...
things became much worse without him. Even if he...
had stayed there, things still would have become...
much worse, because this is the course...
of the government. And the course of the government...
is determined by Putin, and this government still...
will not be able to achieve either...
economic growth, or investment growth...
or anything else, because why does it exist?
It exists to strengthen Putin’s personal...
power. And despite the fact that a number of...
measures—like the introduction of the Yarovaya law (a package of Russian anti-terror legislation that expanded surveillance powers)—
directly contradict the very idea of...
economic growth and the interests, in general...
of all Russian citizens, the government still...
approves them, implements them, and will continue...
to make life harder for mobile operators and for all of us.
Why? Because Putin wants...
control.
He wants to control what you write in Telegram or...
Skype, and what you are messaging about in...
SMS. They want to read everything you...
write to your wife or your girlfriend or...
someone else. They want to monitor whether...
you are writing something bad about them, whether...
you are extremists. And for the sake of this...
which is, from the point of view...
of the interests of the whole country, a rather absurd goal, they will...
destroy...
well, not destroy entirely, but deal a serious blow to...
the entire industry. And there are many such examples.
So regardless of Kudrin...
this government will keep doing everything worse...
and worse and worse. The fact that Kudrin was at...
Bolotnaya in 2012 is great.
But what is not great at all is that...
now he is this kind of...
silent figure. If he...
spoke more clearly and more directly, instead of...
working on the economic team for...
Putin’s program, that would probably be better.
Will you help promote the adoption of a law on...
animal protection? asks Mulla.
How do you feel about this issue? I...
believe that this law should have been passed long ago. It has...
been sitting in the Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) for years. I honestly do not understand...
why it has not been passed. Around it...
there is broad consensus; there is no...
political force that is against a law on...
the protection of animal rights. But nevertheless...
our idiotic system...
still does not pass it. There was one thing last...
week that really...
looked absolutely disgusting, truly...
beyond disgusting. I am holding this...
Something that, even against the backdrop of our
disgusting life, isn't even
coming from the state—not from
Putin, not something Dmitry Rogozin said,
or whoever else here likes to blurt out some
nonsense—like Culture Minister Medinsky. But this
really
this is a truly vile letter.
"Dear Mr. President,"
And interestingly, this "Mr. President" is
Emmanuel Macron.
And this letter was signed by holders
of French honors, members of the Order
of the Legion of Honor.
There are various people there: Irina Prokhorova, Mikhail
Prokhorov, Gref, director Lungin—different
people, many of whom
we generally consider decent, or
at least conditionally decent.
And they wrote a disgusting letter.
This letter simply
shows us well that the problem is not even, not
only in the state, in officials, in Putin,
or United Russia, but that the current
Russian elite itself is simply
hopeless, because these are people filled
with such hypocrisy, such—
such lies that, well, there's no getting around it.
These wonderful gentlemen simply
wrote a heart-rending appeal
to the French president in defense
of Suleiman Kerimov. Let me remind you that
the man is now actually accused of
transporting €750 million in
cash from Russia personally—that is,
he crossed the border many, many times simply
with suitcases—I don't even know,
maybe on pallets, with money stacked on the plane.
There were lots of calculations showing
you've probably seen online how much
all that cash would weigh in kilograms.
That cash which Kerimov
stole here—or at the very least
failed to pay taxes on here—and knowing how he
made his money, effectively stole—he took to
France and invested there,
in luxury real estate. He lives in that
luxury property right now, and he wasn't even
put under house arrest; he was simply
forbidden from leaving this
part of the southern coast of France, where I have
never been, but I assume it's
a rather pleasant place. And Kerimov there
is not suffering at all: he lives in a villa worth
tens of millions of euros, and he has
staff there, some luxury cars; he
walks around and enjoys the wonderful
climate.
He eats at Michelin-starred
restaurants, and yet they write, quite literally,
that at present the life of Mr.
Kerimov is being sustained by a team of doctors,
and that in order for him to receive medical
care, he needs to travel to Russia.
Can you imagine? These oligarchs
and various other rich people,
representatives of the elite in Russia, are in all
seriousness writing to France: dear France,
Kerimov is so terribly ill, and for him to receive
medical care, he must travel to
Russia. Apparently, since he's a senator from
Dagestan, maybe in Makhachkala or Derbent there is
some hospital there. They really should have
written: in Derbent there is a hospital, in
ward No. 33 there are eight beds, and there,
on one of those rusty beds,
covered with some tattered towel,
that's where Kerimov will receive the very medical
services that of course are unavailable to him
in France, where he lives on an estate
worth tens of millions of euros. But
it's just disgusting. And these people—
as everyone rightly noted—never wrote such
letters for anyone else. Well, among them,
the only one was Irina Prokhorova.
I'm not sure about Lungin, but it seems to me
that only Irina Prokhorova
wrote letters in support of Serebrennikov. All the
rest—people are tortured, people are killed,
people are arrested; every single day we see
these heart-rending stories,
like that of Ildar Dadin,
who was hung up somewhere,
with his face shoved into a toilet,
threatened with rape, subjected
to real torture. These stories come every single
day. At the very least, there are stories of
innocent people being punished.
Even specifically for this
sophisticated public, there are cases that
would presumably make them want to defend
someone unjustly
oppressed, like Kirill
Serebrennikov, who is close to them. But they
went to his productions together,
they ate with him somewhere,
at the same banquets, and they think they are
of the same blood. And even for him they did not
say a single word—not for all
those millions of suffering people, they
didn't say a single word. They never said
anything about, for example,
teachers earning 14,000 rubles (about $150) a month,
or about the monstrous hospitals. They
never even shared on Facebook some kind of
post where someone is raising money for treatment
for a relative or for their child—
say, $20,000 for treatment in
Germany. They never did that. But
damn it, the moment they finally
showed some nobility was the moment
when they needed to help Suleiman
Kerimov. You're now looking at a screenshot from
that letter, and here in red it is marked
that in accordance with humanity and
humanism, so that his life would not be
put in danger,
it is necessary for him to be reunited with his wife, with
with three children and go back to
Russia
It’s just enough to make you sick, you know.
You read all this and think, my God,
but they must have been laughing their heads off when
they signed this letter. But when you
write somewhere that this millionaire can’t
or rather, this billionaire can’t
get medical care in France
and needs to come to Makhachkala or
Derbent to receive medical treatment there,
well, of course they laughed, but then they still
signed it in complete seriousness
sent it off, and they threw it
right in all our faces, because once again they
said: yes, we are lying, brazen,
hypocritical people, and we are the elite of Russia — that’s
who we are, and that’s who we’ll remain.
It’s utterly disgusting, and the letter really
made an impression on me. It makes me want to
you know, somehow make sure that those watching
in Dagestan — I know many people there
sympathize with Kerimov, because
he paid some taxes there, in Dagestan,
and financed a team.
After my previous
program, several people wrote to me — well, to be honest,
not several, there was one letter in particular, and I
noticed it. It said: “Alexei, I support you,
but I’m still going to stand up for
Kerimov, because he’s Lezgin and I’m Lezgin.”
“I will always be on Kerimov’s side.”
So that’s a position too.
He’s Lezgin, so let’s all forgive him
because we’re Lezgin too.
Then let me forgive Potanin for everything
because he’s Russian. Or let me forgive everything
because he’s Russian too.
Or because someone is half-Ukrainian, like me, and
let’s forgive everything because we’re
of the same blood. I don’t understand that kind of
position, but apparently some people do share it.
But I assume there are quite a lot of people in Dagestan
who would simply be amused by
the very idea of a letter
from ultra-rich people concerning another
super-rich man, saying that he needs to
go back there, somewhere back home,
so that he can receive
medical care there that supposedly can’t be found
in France. I think people will laugh themselves silly
— people who are in Dagestani
hospitals and
or who go to Dagestani clinics will simply
burst out laughing — their lives will practically be
at risk because
they’ll read this letter.
Let me answer some more of your questions.
“Alexei, when you become — if, if you
become president,” or rather, “when you become president,”
aren’t you afraid that
the people currently in power will crush you
if you try to fight corruption?
“Aren’t you afraid for your life?”
asks a user named Triangle. Well, dear Triangle,
my dear, any person who
engages in independent politics in
Russia is under threat to one degree or another.
I’m not exactly thrilled about the fact that
certain risks accompany my
activities. But the question is: should I start
sitting around in fear, wondering
what the percentage chance is that I’ll be killed? I
just do what I do because
I believe it’s necessary. Fine, we all understand
that the people who grabbed
billions — Suleiman Kerimov and
the signatories of this disgusting letter —
of course they will fight for their
money. Naturally, we are fighting for
the future
for ourselves and our children. There are far more of us.
Incomparably more of us — that’s the point.
All these Putin-era
people — Putin’s team — are really just
about 1,000 people, 1,000 families, who
received genuinely huge incomes, huge
amounts of money from all these
many years of Vladimir
Putin being in power. But most people have simply
lost out. How much money have we raised? I can barely
see the screen.
Somewhere just under 100,000 rubles (about $1,100 USD)
right? Ah, 114,000 rubles (about $1,250 USD) already — that means 104,000
leaflets we can distribute. Many thanks
to everyone who’s donating — you’re great.
“Alexei, you need to read the donation questions
— you’ll raise more,” writes
his lackey.
His lackey — you’ve actually hit the nail on the head.
Honestly, it would indeed be good
to read the questions. People pay even 500
rubles (about $5.50 USD), questions appear, and I don’t answer them
not because I don’t want to, but because the screen
is very far away from me. I can
— you’ll see me sitting here squinting like some guy
trying to read. We’ll try to solve this
problem. I just don’t want to sit here in glasses
like an idiot in front of this screen.
They just splashed that brilliant green antiseptic (zelyonka) in my
eye, and my eyesight got worse overall, so from
a distant screen I simply can’t read it.
Also, with the livestream, there’s
a delay — everything I say, you see
two minutes after I’ve
said it, so it doesn’t quite
work properly. But we’ll try somehow
to solve this problem.
And we’ll try to solve this infernal overkill too.
There are more dislikes than likes — we should hold a rally over
that. But it’s Vladimir Putin’s cunning plan:
he keeps hitting us all the time with dislikes.
Indeed, some amount of views
gets stolen because of it.
As I said, because of that
this video appears less often in recommendations.
But I can tell you one thing,
guys, hit the like button — on average, I’ve seen...
This live format gets about 300
thousand views on average.
Everyone can easily leave a
like, and then
Putin's cook will get tired of hauling in bots without
likes. We can all outdo them,
we can all like this so much
that it'll be downright scary.
In the case of Kerimov, I was reminded of an episode
of *Nasha Russia* (a Russian sketch comedy show), the hospital one, for some reason.
Well, actually, this letter here—
compared with it, *Nasha Russia* and every other
comedy show, absolutely any of them,
are just standing nervously on the sidelines compared to
this letter of support, in support of
Kerimov.
Nissan asks me, how are you
planning to behave in Kaliningrad if
Governor Alikhanov shows up
fashionably on a bicycle and starts provoking things?
Well, I don't know what the provocation would be if
the governor comes fashionably on a bicycle
and I invite him onto the stage. But the thing is,
you know, not at a single rally
has any official ever expressed
a desire to debate me or
discuss something or object. Yet in
their newspapers they write: Navalny comes and
tells lies here,
campaigns, says everything wrong. Well,
please, come then. I'll take this opportunity
to invite Governor Alikhanov to
come by bicycle, by scooter, on foot, or even in a
black Mercedes with a flashing light, to come to
our rally, and I promise that he will have
the chance to speak, to state his point
of view, to object to me, to debate me.
If he does that, it will be very, very
cool.
Yes, I can see the app map showing
which ones were launched during the broadcast—it's
really encouraging. Quite a lot of people
have downloaded our app. Guys, at the beginning
of the broadcast I said—sorry—in the description
of this video there's a link to the
Navalny Live app. Download it,
and you'll be able to watch and listen to all our
broadcasts there like radio, watch them via
YouTube, and soon you'll also be able to read there,
because we'll be posting
transcripts. Alexander from Makovoye asks:
Alexei, tomorrow in Barnaul at 6:00 p.m.
there will be a pro-government rally at the stadium
in support of the Olympians. Let's see where
people go. Excellent—I'll actually
be in Barnaul tomorrow evening. There will be
a rally in support of the Olympians, and you
live in Barnaul, so I won't be able to
deceive you. Just see for yourselves how many people
come voluntarily to the rally in support of
the Olympians. I know that the authorities in
Barnaul—
I know how they'll drive people to
that rally. But maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe only three people will come to me,
and thousands will go there. But that's an excellent
way to check. But if after this
event we see on university forums and
everywhere else people discussing how everyone was forced
and herded into the rally in support of the Olympians,
then once again we'll see just how pathetic
and insignificant
this government is, how in reality it
can't really oppose us at all.
Ben Brod Buterbrod asks: Alexei, aren't you going
to get ready for tomorrow by
buying glasses, or at least some old
pirate-style eye patch? Well, you've just reminded me
that the first time I was actually splashed with
zelyonka (a bright green antiseptic often used in attacks on activists) was in Barnaul.
That time it didn't cause much harm to
my health.
Well, I'd look rather
exotic, imagine, if I showed up
in some big black glasses or
some kind of welder's goggles, or even
an eye patch, in order to
protect myself from the devious authorities
of Barnaul. No, I
I'm not afraid, and I'll come as I am. But
I will wear a hat, because it'll be minus
13 or minus 15 degrees Celsius.
So once again: tomorrow I'll be speaking in Barnaul,
the day after tomorrow I'll be speaking in
Novokuznetsk, and on Sunday I'll be
speaking in Kaliningrad, because I am a
presidential candidate. I am running my
election campaign. I don't know what the
other candidates are doing, so
please come. And as for all of you,
all the other viewers, we'll
see each other next Thursday. I'll tell you
what was interesting, and we'll discuss
a few things again. Thank you very much, happy—
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