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Hello. It’s 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, and Alexei is in the studio.
Navalny—or “politically unsuccessful,” as
Sergei Prikhodko called me, and who
fortunately continues to be the subject
of constant coverage, the hero
of remarkable, astonishing discussions,
and footage that is circulating on blogs and in the
mass media. We are glad that
this topic remains in the spotlight. We are very
glad that people are discussing not only Ms.
Rybka and the various circumstances that
took place at the dacha (country house), but also, in fact,
the main thing: the fact of corruption, the fact that
Mr. Prikhodko, who calls me
a loser, is in fact a bribe-taker.
At this point I don’t even know which is better to be:
a loser or a bribe-taker. From my point
of view, it’s better to be a loser, but
apparently Sergei Prikhodko today
feels like a winner again, because
they blocked my blog, Navalny
.com, and
for us this is the main news. We want
to discuss it right at the start. But let me
remind you that you can send me
questions on Twitter with the hashtag
#Navalny2018, and I’ll try to
answer them. And today we are raising money
in support of the voters’ strike, but
so, Sergei Prikhodko, Oleg Deripaska,
all these wonderful figures, of course,
who are backed by Vladimir Putin,
blocked my blog today, and I
have not the slightest doubt that this is
of course not just about the pliant
Ust-Labinsk court—yes, Ust-Labinsk—
that tame court in Slavyansk,
because Mr. Deripaska
owns practically that entire town, and there is also
a political desire on the part of the authorities
to block this. Just look at what they
blocked: the Navalny 2018 website, the
Navalny.com website,
the strike website, and the observer recruitment site.
That is, all at once they
blocked them after this court
ruling. This is absolutely illegal, because
obviously the strike website or the
observer recruitment site has nothing to do with
Deripaska’s private life and nothing to do with
Prikhodko’s private life or with Rybka—there is nothing there.
Moreover, this directly
contradicts what is written even in the
unlawful Roskomnadzor decision. Nevertheless,
they basically said: great idea,
if there’s some fake ruling saying
we can block something connected to Navalny,
let’s block everything at once. I want
to say: we will do everything
and I believe we will succeed in making sure this
information is not removed from the internet.
Roskomnadzor has already forced 29 media outlets
to remove certain
information. They’re running after everyone, and
yes, they have made our lives much more difficult right now,
though we are fairly
effective at fighting these blocks.
However, we will absolutely do
everything so that information about the adventures of
Deripaska and the adventures of Prikhodko not only
remains on the Russian internet,
but becomes even more accessible, and so that
a large number—an even larger
number—of people see it. I hope you
will help us. Thanks to you, our
film has already reached five million
views. Please keep going,
send it to your grandmothers, grandfathers—to everyone.
Let millions of Russian citizens know
what is happening. And of course, fighting
blocks—the ability to get around blocks—
is now simply a basic life skill in Russia.
If you still haven’t learned how to do it,
make sure you do. I wanted to show you
some kind of guide, a short
guide on how to bypass blocks, but
then I remembered that in Russia
even instructions on how to bypass
blocks are banned. If I show you one now,
then Roskomnadzor will be obliged
to block the people who
explained how to fight
the blocks. Still, I think I’ll
take the risk and show you 40 seconds
of explanation on how to bypass blocks, and
I even somewhat hope that after this
Roskomnadzor will block those who explained it.
Forty seconds. Blocking popular internet
resources
is, to put it mildly, useless. As
was emphasized by Russia’s Ministry of Communications,
it fosters legal
nihilism among citizens and increases their computer
literacy.
Dedicated to everyone suffering from blocked
social networks but who can still watch us:
there are many ways to bypass website blocking.
One of the simplest is to
download an app that changes your apparent country
of location to one where the resource
is allowed. Often this method opens
access to many websites. Another option is to
use an anonymizer; it also
lets you visit websites without being tied
to your computer’s address. Not exactly, of course,
convenient—but still, wow, the TV channel
Rossiya-24 was explaining how to bypass
blocks.
You’ve probably already guessed: they were doing
this because evil officials
were blocking websites in Ukraine. Exactly right:
as soon as decisions were made in Ukraine
to block Russian websites,
righteous anger filled
all the very same officials who
block websites inside Russia and then began to
to tell us on television, to tell us
yes, Ukrainians, about how to get around
the blocks. Well, we’ll need those instructions too.
We will. Still, the simplest thing
you can do is download
my blog’s app.
The links are in the description of this video.
There’s an Android app there, and there’s
an iOS app.
No blocking will stop it, and you
can use it easily. I don’t even want
to go into great detail telling you
about it. I’ll dwell on the legal aspects, well,
though that’s almost pointless. Any person
who is even a little bit of a lawyer, or at least
somewhat familiar with legal procedures
in this country, would simply burst out
laughing if you told them the story of
how
on a weekend you can come to court,
get a hearing scheduled immediately, and on that
same weekend day
obtain interim measures that will block
something somewhere across the whole country, while
doing so without notifying, essentially, what should we call them,
the affected parties involved. More than that, with
the court’s official position being that this
doesn’t concern me. Just appreciate the elegance
of the Deripaska, Prikhodko, and Putin combination.
We’ll block Navalny’s resources, and when he
comes and says, “Hey, give me the paperwork,” we’ll say
“This doesn’t concern you.” That is the official
wording: that Navalny’s interests are not
affected by the blocking of Navalny’s resources.
Navalny’s. Everything is clear with the Russian
courts. What interests me more
is the moral assessment of what
was happening on Deripaska’s yacht.
Prikhodko and so on. So, we can see that
all the figures in our case were silent this
week, silent. Prikhodko said
something to the effect that if it were up to him,
he’d deal with it “man to man,”
but wouldn’t. After that, they started blocking everything,
and the first official
high-ranking government official who
spoke on whether this was acceptable or not,
normal or abnormal, what
was happening on that yacht, was the minister,
actually, the minister
for Open Government, Mikhail Abyzov. You
know that he is an old friend of our
Anti-Corruption Foundation, because
he is usually the one who blocks everything we
have collected—several times, 100,000
signatures under various
bills.
Under the procedure, it was Abyzov and
his ministry that were supposed to
review them, and they successfully
buried them every time. We released
an investigative film about the luxury real estate
of Mr. Abyzov in Italy. Today
the TV Rain channel (an independent Russian TV channel), thanks to them, took
a short comment. So, as a minister,
how does he assess what happened, including from
a moral point of view? Let’s watch.
There,
1 minute 21 seconds: “Complete nonsense, and don’t
confuse
normal comradely, friendly
relations with some kind of offerings,
bribes. A bribe implies the provision of
a service, and this is complete nonsense.”
Then: “By the way, I worked in business
for 20 years. All oligarchs, one way or another, are either my
friends, or people with whom I
worked. I am connected to them by friendly
relations. So now I can’t go to a restaurant
with them anymore? What, uh,
what difference does it make? Maybe I’m not even allowed
to… what’s the essence here? What’s the point of a car—
can you explain to me why it’s expensive, and in
a car, well,
can’t people ride in the same car? So what?”
Listen, and there’s no need to turn everything
into absolute nonsense and some kind of absolute
phantasmagoria.
The fact that people want publicity, and for that
they blow up sordid stories, dig into dirty
laundry and private life—that is a matter of
upbringing. That’s a question for their parents. Everyone
has their own moral bar. I can say
that Prikhodko is an absolutely decent man. I
work with him. He is a person who
deserves the highest praise, deep
respect, a consummate professional and a true
friend, and I am glad that I work with such
people. And all those who throw around
filth—God will judge them.”
I’m trying to find my moral bar. It has
fallen so low that it’s impossible to find. It’s
somewhere, apparently, on the fourth floor or
the third, because, well—even to me
Abyzov, a government minister,
sitting in his Italian villa,
Prikhodko with Deripaska, surrounded by
dancing escort girls, turns to
me and says, “So, Alexei, where is your
moral bar? What is happening to you?”
That’s a question for your parents:
they raised you badly,
they say. And meanwhile, when they
address me, right past them go
some half-naked girls providing escort services,
they are discussing things, they are giving each other bribes.
There is nothing normal about that.
A minister can say to the whole country:
“Fine, an honest man, wonderful,
an exemplary official.” Well, you can see
how degraded this government has become. But
these people are not even ashamed. At least he could have
said, “I’m not going to discuss this,
it concerns only Prikhodko,” or said
“This character always lies, just as he lied
about me there, so none of this
interests me.” No, instead, you understand, they even
try to climb up onto the podium and, standing there,
Here they are, standing over us in nothing but their underwear, saying, well—
guys,
why are you digging through our underwear? It's
indecent. And on top of that, they're shaming us for it,
calling it indecent. I'd like to ask you to remember
the episode that happened to Mikhail
Mikhalych Kasyanov, whose home—his
residence, his apartment—was obviously
entered by illegal FSB officers (Russia's security service), or—I don't know who,
who installed a camera and filmed him several
times over several days, and all those
bits of footage from his private life,
his personal relationships—they showed it all on
television. And when Kasyanov filed a
lawsuit and said, well, actually everything here
is a violation of the inviolability of private
life,
illegal surveillance and operational-search
activity, illegal filming, and
that all possible norms had been violated,
violated—I don't know, basically this
simply cannot be shown on
television, with those kinds of scenes and
dialogues.
Kasyanov lost everywhere, and everywhere we
were refused. They said something like,
"Kasyanov's private life wasn't
affected." But when we, without filming anyone
with a hidden camera, simply show
what was photographed and posted on Instagram
by one of the participants in these events, suddenly there are questions about our
upbringing, questions about our moral
standards—which have fallen so low they're lying at the feet of
Abyzov and at the feet of Prikhodko. Brazen,
absolutely brazen,
and, excuse me, completely out of control—
utterly shameless people. So
of course they need to be taken on hard; of course this
government must be fought; of course we need to
spread this video so that
at least those brazen expressions on their faces
might somehow slide off their physiognomies, because, well,
it's simply impossible to listen to them as they still
try to prove that they are, supposedly,
highly moral people, while we are the ones digging through
dirty laundry. Unfortunately, what really upset me
was Instagram. Instagram is
Facebook and Zuckerberg, after all,
because I still don't think YouTube
will delete our videos—at least not for now.
It's holding out. But Instagram deleted two
photos. And since we have those
photos, we'll show those very
photos. Here is photo number one: we
see Deripaska with Nastya Rybka on a yacht.
Photo number two—Instagram, unfortunately,
at the request of
Roskomnadzor (Russia's media and internet regulator), deleted it, and in doing so effectively became
part of the Russian censorship
and corruption machine. That's very
upsetting. But I see quite a lot of
Western media writing about this, and I hope that
the public will now somehow give
Zuckerberg—or those who made these
decisions—a good dressing-down, because this is
absolutely, absolutely outrageous and
unacceptable. But when
they take the side of crooks and
help those crooks hide their
corrupt little schemes,
This whole affair already has many participants: Rybka,
Prikhodko, Deripaska—and a lot has already
been written about various people. Some write about
Deripaska, publishing articles and
investigations into why this might have happened,
some even offering conspiracy theories
about who supposedly commissioned our investigation against
Deripaska. It's always very funny to read.
Huge biographies of Prikhodko are coming out,
and there's a very interesting
recollection about Prikhodko in a book by
Yelena Tregubova,
*Notes of a Kremlin Digger*.
The book came out in the early 2000s, and it has a very
interesting section on Prikhodko—read it. A lot is also being written about
Rybka herself. And there is one
absolutely astonishing figure in
this whole case by the name of Alex Lesley.
This very Alex Lesley—I don't even know
exactly who he is; it's hard for me to
define this person's occupation, but
he's described as a sex coach, and Rybka is both a sex
coach and a guru at the same time,
well, some kind of academic supervisor—no,
some kind of mentor, because she
constantly talks about him. Let's
take a few seconds to hear what Nastya
says about Alex Lesley, the two coaches
who for almost a year have been helping
you—and here's what came of it.
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You can do everything.
I believe in you. So that's some kind of her
coach, and she repeatedly claimed that
Deripaska set all this up because
he is jealous of Alex Lesley, and she
is nominating Alex Lesley as a candidate for
president. There he is, sitting behind the wheel,
looking cool, dancing.
He turned out to be an astonishing person, because
when people started googling him—well,
just googling him—we found out that his
real name is not Alex Lesley
but Alexander Kirillov, including because
when a lawsuit was filed over reposts about him, it turned out
that he is, no less, a resident of
the Skolkovo Innovation Center. You can see
his photos there at Skolkovo. This
photo
was on the website until quite recently
of the Skolkovo Innovation Center. If
you go there right now, you'll
read an absolutely astonishing
profile
of Alex Lesley on the innovation center's website. You can see the
photo has been discreetly removed, but
it still says he is a science director, a theologian,
and an investor in the Center for Intellectual...
forecasting systems
a participant and speaker at international
congresses, an author and developer
of artificial intelligence systems with
increasing complexity, increasing
complexity, and he works at that very
wonderful, amazing innovation
center Skolkovo (Russia's state-backed innovation hub)
which you and I, dear YouTube
viewers, spent 132 billion
rubles (about 1.4 billion USD), so look, you can see
this is from a government decree
this isn't my analysis, these are funds that
were allocated to the Skolkovo information center
where artificial systems
of artificial intelligence with increasing
complexity are being worked on by Alexander
Kirillov, and
and
Alex Lesley. I spent some time and
tried to find some trace of his
scientific work—they obviously ought to exist
because, well, to be honest, as for Alex
I don't really have any complaints at all
there's even a kind of—not admiration, but
recognition of his audacity, that he even
got in there and
became part of this amazing
Medvedev-era innovation center
Skolkovo. Well, I was looking for some trace
of scientific activity or some visualization
of what seemed to be a project from this
artificial intelligence, space
programs—there's a lot written there
I found it, I found it: there was a 52-second video
but I cut it down because I thought you
wouldn't survive all of it. You're about to watch 26 seconds
now—an innovation project that
was obviously, or most likely, funded
by the Skolkovo innovation center. Twenty-six seconds.
Dear Russians, now the future
president of the Russian Federation
Alex Lesley will present to you the new anthem
of Russia, 'To Serve'—that was Alex Lesley
a resident of the innovation center
Skolkovo
on which you and I spent 132
billion rubles (about 1.4 billion USD)
Perfect video. He's the best resident. I
really think Alex Lesley should be made
the symbol of the innovation center
he and a bear should be there together, and maybe
even Medvedev (former Russian president and prime minister) in the same style could
take part like that too. There were
three girls there, right, and the fourth should be
Medvedev lying there with an iPhone or something
turning around and talking about how
Russia is about to see a breakthrough in innovation—that's
exactly how it should be. It's absolutely
brilliant, amazing, it seems to me, just
a perfect characterization of everything
that's happening in our country, and
those of you who expect that from Putin or
from Medvedev there could be some
improvements in our country—technological
breakthroughs or whatever. Sure, Elon Musk
launches things, and we can too, we
can do something—artificial
intelligence or biotechnology or
nanotechnology or whatever—everyone waiting
for that, guys, watch this clip
more often. This is the ceiling for innovation
technology that it can provide
the Putin regime—this is the ceiling. And what's more
if you keep getting upset, they
will block it too, and I have no doubt that
tomorrow or the day after, Roskomnadzor (Russia's media and internet regulator)
will declare that this also needs to be
blocked. The previous episode, by the way,
Navalny 2018, exactly the same—they
put it on the register of banned websites, and
they'll add this one too, because these are secret
technologies he's just
shown—not everyone is supposed to see them
not everyone. From cheerful topics, let's move to
serious ones, and even partly sad ones, because
after all, the main international
news story, and a very serious one with
long-term
consequences for Russia, of course, was
the situation in Syria, and
it was connected with the so-called Wagner guys
and a huge number of media outlets, a huge
number of people, spent a week
basically discussing what happened
because even now we don't really
understand what happened. Well, there are
some facts, probably, that
can't be denied: there was some kind of
combat clash in Syria, and in the course of it
the Americans bombed
and destroyed a column
of certain people—no one really understands who
they were. Among those people there were
some Russian citizens, and
the estimates varied wildly. So
at first they were talking about hundreds of these people, and
among those saying so was Igor
Strelkov, who, well, we know
for sure that he maintains ties with
these people and has some
information. Then it was said that 20
or so had died, then Bloomberg
in turn reported that actually
200 people had died. There is a
research organization, a community
group calling itself CIT (Conflict Intelligence Team); they
write a lot about this, by the way—I recommend them to everyone
and Ruslan Leviev from there
said that 200 people is
an obvious exaggeration, but most likely
there were 30 to 40 dead there, and we still
can't understand what exactly
happened there, how many people died, how many
were Russian citizens. But today Maria
Zakharova said that as a result of the
strike, five Russians may have been killed
and she still doubts whether they were Russians
And this is an obvious lie, basically.
Generally speaking, Ms. Zakharova never
tells a single word of truth.
Because even now there is already
documentary evidence
that at least eight people were killed, that is,
there are already—it's horrible—those very
weeping wives, those children left
orphaned,
funerals, and so on. At least eight
Russian citizens who, whatever we may
think of them—you may consider them
good, you may consider them bad, you may
consider them anything at all—but in any case
some number of Russian citizens
have died. We do not know who died there or
why they died, because the
reports that have been appearing over
the last few days, well, they really
look monstrous, because
the American command says that
the Americans bombed a convoy in which
some people were traveling, and before
they bombed that convoy, they requested
information from Russia's Ministry of Defense
on whether there were Russian servicemen or
quasi-servicemen there, and the Ministry of
Defense told them there were none. This is
the official statement of the U.S. Secretary of Defense.
So of course we should all
treat it with some skepticism, but this is a serious
accusation. It is an accusation that
the Ministry of Defense simply sold out,
betrayed Russian citizens, regardless of whether
they were regular servicemen or not. They said:
there are no Russians there,
after which they were all blown apart and killed—
our citizens. And we can see that the Americans
are, in general, reluctantly acknowledging this, because
well, nobody likes the idea of
a clash in which Americans and Russians
kill each other.
Naturally, the entire press jumps on this:
is this World War III, an escalation,
nobody wants that. But if these
facts are confirmed,
then this is, of course, a serious question for
the Ministry of Defense, which simply—
again, it does not matter whether they were bad or good—
they were Russian citizens, and they said
essentially: please bomb them, ours are not there,
even though they knew ours were there. And of course,
Mr. Peskov's response was absolutely monstrous
after the first reports.
And after reports, including fairly well-founded
reports that at least dozens
of people had died there, he was asked whether
some kind of mourning should be declared, but apparently
Peskov said something to the effect of:
What are you talking about? I do not understand what is happening there,
and in general there are no
Russian citizens there, no servicemen,
there is nobody there, and there is nothing
to discuss here.
I repeat: at that very moment, there were being published
interviews, video interviews—you can
watch them—with people familiar with these
very groups, giving some kind of
Cossack (semi-military traditionalist) officers, unit leaders, whoever,
and they say: yes,
our men died, from our district, from our
city, from our—whatever their unit is called—
our Cossack association.
These facts exist, everyone knows about them, and
the only ones who simply refuse
to acknowledge Russian citizens are state officials,
who disown and betray
Russian citizens. And once again, we are all obliged
to raise the question: what were we doing in Syria, and
who exactly are these Russian citizens
who are doing something there
and taking part in some operations? And I
would simply like to draw attention to the fact that
there is this discussion going on: well, there is
the Wagner PMC, a private military company,
like the Americans have, and they do roughly
the same thing the Americans do. No,
guys, let's establish a few
clear facts. There is a certain man
who is called Wagner. About this
man, we know his surname and first name, and there is a
photograph of him. His name is Dmitry Utkin. There he is
at some Kremlin
reception attended by Putin as well.
There is no organization called
the Wagner PMC,
and there cannot be, because many people
mistakenly think—I see even
interviews with some people who
sign themselves as the head of some
private military company or other—
that there can be a director or person like that. This
cannot exist.
There is not even a law on private military
companies in Russia that has passed even a first reading;
it has not even been considered yet, it is lying somewhere,
who knows where. In Russia there is Article
359 of the Criminal Code, which is called
"Mercenarism," and any Russian citizens
who, for money, for remuneration,
fight somewhere, do something with
weapons in their hands—under this article they are
mercenaries, and they must be brought to
criminal responsibility. So you see,
we have at the very least a gray
zone, obviously involving some kind of corruption,
some people, some organization that receives
money—from where and how, we do not know. It cannot be a
legal entity.
It cannot be, under the laws of the Russian
Federation. That means there is some kind of
huge flow of cash, or something
else. We know this now; repeatedly
Fontanka (a Russian news outlet) has written about it, and many
investigations show that this so-called
Wagner PMC is, that is,
some kind of illegal armed
formation engaged in who knows what.
but at the very least for participation in combat
operations in Donbas and in Syria, but
it is effectively financed by the man
who is commonly referred to as the
"Putin's chef"—Mr. Prigozhin—about whom we
have conducted many investigations, and about whom
we know for certain that he
feeds off the theft of
the Defense Ministry. But perhaps he
because he receives absolutely
enormous contracts from them, and this is
a cartel arrangement. But look at our
investigation: we have documentary proof of
established corruption. Maybe part of the
money he steals, and part of it is simply given to him. This guy
from Wagner—maybe that is connected in
one way or another, but in any case
what we see here is a very strange and
suspicious connection between this
"Putin's chef" and the people fighting in Syria.
Moreover, not long ago it was reported that
that
let me read it to you now: *Fontanka* wrote
in 2017 that a quarter of the oil and
gas extracted from territory recaptured for Assad
could go to a company
linked to Putin's chef, Yevgeny
Prigozhin. In return, he was supposed to liberate
these plants and oil-processing facilities,
some gas fields, and so on.
So this is how it seems to work: there are
certain people who finance
the Russian state, because, well, who pays
these unfortunate women the so-called
death benefits and everything else? These
people all train in training
camps run by the Defense Ministry.
People talk about this too, and it
comes straight from Cossack leaders and other people
involved in all this. That is, they
train at official
Defense Ministry bases, and then they go on
to recapture or seize certain gas
fields and oil fields for
Prigozhin. But why do we need this? Why should we be
mixed up in this? Why does the Russian state
need any of this? Why should Russian citizens
have to take part in some kind of
clashes—I don't know, with anyone at all,
with Americans, with Kurds, and so on—for
what purpose? So that Putin's chef
can make money. And the latest article that
appeared in *Kommersant*—more than that, another
statement from the Defense Ministry
shows an extremely strange thing, namely
that it effectively states that
these armed Wagner Group units
were already acting even without coordination with our
own military authorities and were apparently trying to
seize some kind of military facility.
The Americans bombed them, and this was either
a lack of coordination or something else. In other words,
there are some groups effectively financed
with taxpayers' money—groups that, well,
de facto act on behalf of the Russian Federation.
After all, not everyone knows they are Russian.
The Defense Ministry sends them; they all
obviously arrive through our military
base and then go about resolving the personal
financial interests of Prigozhin.
All of this looks very, very
dubious, and of course all of it should
be investigated carefully, in the most
thorough way possible. And once again I want
to note that there is no real parallel here. In
interviews one often has to read, well,
that Americans have private military
companies, and we therefore have a private
military company too, as they exist all
over the world. They do not take part in combat
operations; they sign official
contracts with the U.S. Department of Defense
or with other organizations for
security services, for example. They guard things, they
conduct training, including in Iraq.
That famous company Blackwater,
the private military company that
is constantly compared to Wagner,
they trained the local police. As soon as
it becomes known that they
were involved in direct combat clashes,
those cases are investigated. You can find
that 125 specific cases were investigated
in which these private military companies,
American ones, took part in
direct combat, because
they are not allowed to participate in it. They
were guarding something, and they were attacked.
Our situation is completely different: some
very strange people are actually waging
war, conducting combat operations. How can that
possibly be proper? It is obvious that no
private military company, without the support of
a regular army, is capable of
fighting, because a private military
company cannot have an air force, cannot have
drones, cannot have satellite
imagery, satellite communications, cannot have
tanks—at least not in a Russian
private military company. So this is
some kind of enormous gray
zone, an intermediary between the Defense
Ministry and that crook Prigozhin, and in this
zone there are literally billions
of dollars—at the very least, many tens of
billions of rubles—that these parties
are dragging off in different directions. And again
the question is: why do we need this? Exactly. I
just saw a message on Twitter, and
people are dying, while
someone else is raking in money by the shovel-load. People are dying,
and you and I will have to pay death benefits
to the families of the dead, social support—well, I mean,
this is genuinely a human tragedy, however
you look at it: orphaned children, wives, and everything
else. Besides, people will
be coming back, and it is not very clear in what
mental state they will return—again, in interviews.
Read what the dead man's wife wrote—here it is.
She writes that he served in Donbas.
And then he came back, got bored, and
started thinking about his assault rifle again: where is
my beloved rifle? He missed it, and went off to this
Syria, where they gave him that rifle, and
it did not end very well. But when
people long for an assault rifle, the answer
from the normal side is this: join the army. In the army,
they give you a rifle. You join the regular army,
they give you your rifle, and it will
be kept under its assigned number in the armory.
You will receive it when you are supposed to,
and you will fire it when you are supposed to fire it.
You fire when ordered to—when you have received an order
from the commander-in-chief. But with our own hands we are
simply creating some kind of gangs that
will later roam around Russia and do
who knows what. In other words, nothing good
will come of this.
It will cost us an enormous amount of
money, and once again the main question is: why
do we need any of this? So, Andrei writes to me:
Shpagin dies, Nino Rota, those who went off
[__] for Putin—well, you can feel however you want about
them. Some consider them heroes,
and some do not consider them heroes at all, but
obviously these people went there to earn
money. But they are still Russian citizens,
they live next door to you.
Those who went [__] and those who did not go—it makes no
difference, they live here all the same, and however you
may feel about them, you will be paying their expenses, and
this—well, this idea of stupidly
rejoicing that they were killed over there,
like, "400 pro-Putin fighters, Putin supporters,"
"the Americans bombed them"—that is a stupid
position, absolutely, because these are
Russian citizens. Their families are still here,
their friends are still here. Some have died,
some will return here, and it is unclear what
will be going through their heads. This is our
shared problem, and of course this problem
must be treated accordingly. We must
all demand that these lying authorities,
this disgusting Putin, who
has already declared several times that we
withdrew
our ground forces from Syrian territory,
explain to us what is happening. If you
withdrew them, then who was killed there while wives here
are crying in Sverdlovsk Oblast (a region in Russia)?
Let them answer that, then.
Vladislav Lozinsky: In the Beautiful Russia
of the Future, won't they jam Elon Musk's internet?
Elon Musk's, I mean—Elon Musk.
First he has to roll out his internet—at least that's what he
said. It all sounds nice; we'll see. But anyway,
to wrap up the Syria topic:
the main thing we need—I suggest,
I simply urge everyone not to
focus on the personalities of these
people [__], they are [__], but simply to
talk about the fact that we, as a state,
as a society,
as communities, whoever we are, must get
an answer to the question of why people with the same
passports as ours are dying somewhere, and for
what they are dying, and why there are some
murky financial flows connected with
these deaths.
Andrei asks me whether it could
turn out that, as a result of low turnout,
foreign presidents will say to Putin,
"Sorry, man, we don't want to have
anything to do with you." It won't happen that way, Andrei, because
foreign presidents do not really care what
is happening here. Foreign presidents
say: these Russians are deciding their own
problems themselves. In other words, if they
allow Putin to remain in power for 18 years,
to rob them openly, then that is
the Russians' problem. There is no need to expect that
some Western politicians will
be outraged. They may consider him
a crook, a completely indecent
person, and we will suffer because of that, but
they are not going to solve our problems. So then,
since we've started talking about
the elections,
let's once again plunge to the bottom, where, according to
Bykov, my moral bar lies,
because somewhere down there alongside that
moral bar, deep below,
lie our so-called elections and
the ratings of the so-called candidates.
As you remember, we promised
that we would continue conducting weekly
opinion polls so that you
could get real polling data about what
is actually happening right now. Let's take a look.
Let's start with the candidates' ratings. What would happen
if the election were held this Sunday?
First slide, please. On the first slide we
see that, essentially, nothing has
changed. Putin's rating is still 80
percent, Zhirinovsky is at 7 percent,
Grudinin is at 6 percent. But a change of
one percent does not really
mean anything for us, because that is below
the margin of error. We still see the main thing:
Grudinin and Zhirinovsky are fighting for
second place, and none of these candidates
has even the slightest prospect
of forcing a second round or in any way
making an impact in this election. In other words,
nothing at all is happening with them.
Let's look at the negative
ratings. Maybe they at least managed to do
something to make their negative
ratings go up. Let's see
whom our country hates. Next
slide.
Here is the next slide. "Hate" may be too
strong a word, but we can see that our voters
are still very strongly irritated by
Ksenia Sobchak by a wide margin. Next comes
Grigory Yavlinsky, then Zhirinovsky.
Well, Putin still has a low negative rating.
Mm, obviously people are simply already
afraid to say
whether they like him or not; they all don't
include him in their negative ratings. Why
aren't the ratings rising, why aren't the negative
ratings rising, why is nothing changing at all? It
this gives us the answer to that question,
gives us the answer. Next slide, let's
look at the campaign
materials of which candidates have you
come across over the past two weeks? So,
let's go straight to the last column
and look: "none of the above."
Seventy-four percent. That is,
seventy-four percent of people,
an absolute majority, do not see
any campaigning at all and do not see
any election campaign whatsoever. Well,
there's Zhirinovsky,
well, naturally, Putin, Grudinin,
Zhirinovsky, Sobchak somehow at least
are taking part—they appear on television,
so
the minimum figure is Sobchak at seven
percent, Zhirinovsky 12, Grudinin
and Putin 17. Yes, they are much more,
incidentally, noticed. All the rest of our
fellow citizens do not see any
election campaign at all. That's rather sad.
And by the way, have you seen any
any campaign materials? I
today an employee from our office brought
and showed me some campaign material
that, for example, Mr.
Tsvetov had put out: improperly parked
BMWs decorated
with the Party of Growth logos and all
the rest. So, you can see what they
are doing—they are doing nothing, just some
little stunts for a funny photo,
something on social media, some kind of
statement that will be discussed by
27 people on Facebook, but nothing
meaningful—on not a single important issue
do they speak out. But for you
we specifically asked
the question: what do people consider important
issues? It's quite interesting. Let's look at
which issues people want candidates
to speak about: the quality of education,
medical care—59 percent.
The number one issue Russian citizens want
them to talk about is this; then rising prices and
poverty—50 percent; housing and utilities—47 percent;
corruption, which pleases me—40 percent
of people believe it needs to be discussed.
Corruption. Let's see where
the issues are that our candidates keep
going on and on about.
So we go, go, go, go, go, all the way to
the very end: the country's participation in
international military conflicts—an issue
that matters to me, but
still, civil rights,
democratic freedoms, freedom of speech—
five percent. That is, Russia in
international politics—12 percent. That's
all our candidates are doing.
Right now Grudinin says he will
annex Donbas (a region in eastern Ukraine); Sobchak is going
to the United States for four days in the middle of the campaign and
there too pretends to be some great
foreign-policy figure; Yavlinsky is asked
about Syria—an important issue—and that supports him,
but nevertheless the fact remains the fact:
most people are not interested in this.
International politics does not
interest them at all—not Ukraine, not America, not
Syria, not Donbas. They want to know why
prices are rising; they want to hear something about
corruption; they want to hear something about
the state of healthcare and education.
But apparently there are no actions, no statements on
these issues, no debates on these issues, nothing at all anymore.
There is absolute emptiness. So,
really, there is not much to discuss here.
There is no election campaign.
These candidates are doing everything they can not to
be noticed, and there is one month left until the election.
One month remains until the election, and not one of
these candidates, as far as I know,
has either debates or even some video clip
that, by number of views, has at least
surpassed this livestream of mine. And it's not simply
because—it's not because I'm so great
or we're so great, but because they don't do a damn thing,
don't want to do anything, because of the conditions
and arrangements. So don't go to these
elections; don't take part in this disgrace.
Sign up as election observers in order
to prevent them from falsifying turnout
and do not be part of this shameful
worthless, pathetic spectacle. If
the candidates are not fighting for your vote, then
why would you go to the polling station? You cannot
be more active than the candidate, well,
you have to admit, that's obvious.
It looks strange when you, let's say,
argue somewhere on social media
and say, "I absolutely have to go to
the election," while your candidate, whose name is on the ballot,
is not actually participating in this election de facto.
He just signed up, that's all, while you are
running somewhere. Don't run anywhere—boycott it
and call on everyone to boycott it. But
take part in campaigning—well, people are asking.
I see: "I have already signed up as an observer.
Should I wait for training?" Of course, we will train everyone,
and of course we will send
prepared people to the polling
stations. So, Alyosha Dementyev, well, come back, I
only have one of them.
I'm 19 years old, I read—I was a participant
in a rally in Monchegorsk, then I didn't
manage to read anything. Now, while they return it to me,
LK asks: "What do you think
about the news that for a murder..."
homeless animals, but killing animals
money was allocated for stray animals, secondly
The question is: how can I run into you and
take a photo with you in Moscow, run into you
Taking a photo with me in Moscow is very
easy — at any rally, there will be the Nemtsov March
(in memory of Boris Nemtsov, opposition politician), by the way, come to
the rally and take a photo with me
however much you want. The news that
indeed, the Moscow city government
allocated money for killing stray
animals — and not only in Moscow, but at the federal level
in all the cities where the World Cup will be held
they should have allocated money for sterilizing
animals, not for their mass killing, but this is
stupidity. It is cruelty.
And besides, it is a pointless waste
of money. There are tons of studies that
show that
with stray animals, you can
kill all the cats and dogs
and within three years the populations will recover, because
that is how large cities work — an empty niche
gets refilled, and the population of stray
animals recovers. So this is pointless
stupidity and cruelty. Is it normal that
my relatives call me a traitor for
supporting you? No, it is not
normal for them to call you
a traitor. You
if you support me, if
you support our movement, then you are
a patriot of Russia to a much greater
extent, apparently, than your relatives, dear
Dio Brandon. Talk to them, well,
show them the video about the little fish, show them
Abyzov's house, by the way
show them first the comments by Abyzov and
Prikhodko that I showed you today
on TV Rain (independent Russian TV channel), and then
show them his estate in Italy and
ask your relatives: my dear family, tell me,
do you think I am a patriot or
a traitor when I speak out against people
like Abyzov, against people like Prikhodko, and
it seems to me that any normal person
would of course say — regardless of whether they like me or not —
they would say: of course, a patriot.
Yes, that is patriotism. Little Roll
asks me what happened to the quadcopter
Volodya, when Navalny becomes
president, Balotelli will be in charge of
intelligence in the country. But as for the quadcopter
Volodya's is still operational; we
use it and will keep using it, it just
is not suitable for the most important
operations. But of course we will
keep using it. I hope that when I become
president of Russia, there will be better
quality methods of intelligence and
intelligence tools than quadcopters
that can fly three kilometers (about 3 km).
Look at satellites — satellites now
technology has advanced so far
that objects the size of
a cigarette pack can already be seen from orbit. We
want to move beyond quadcopters. As for
campaigning, let's still talk a little
about that. So, we have established that our
opponents' candidates are not doing a damn thing
in terms of campaigning, so nobody notices them. But
Vladimir Putin is not asleep, Vladimir Putin
does not
pay for it from his campaign fund, and yet
he is simply constantly present on
television. More than that, they have started
rerunning a film that is absolutely
a disgusting, sycophantic film made by
the unfortunately brilliant director
Oliver Stone about Putin; they started
showing it on Channel One, and
the Central Election Commission, after
numerous complaints, by the way,
including one from Yavlinsky (liberal politician Grigory Yavlinsky), stated that
it does not recommend showing this film, but
after reviewing it, found no campaigning in it. Now I
have a leaflet here — this is our
leaflet, and as you can clearly see,
there is not a single mention of Putin, not
a single surname, not a single candidate. And yet
the Central Election Commission
considers it prohibited because it creates
a negative image of some candidate. Well,
apparently the word 'deception' again
makes them understand that
of course the word 'deception' means
Putin — even though his name is not written here.
The Central Election Commission
considers this campaigning, and the police across
the country are confiscating our leaflets. But
this film about Putin
contains, in their view, no campaigning at all.
Let me now show you literally
one minute and seven seconds from this film, and
you tell me yourselves: campaigning is
the creation of a positive image of a candidate.
In this excerpt, the CEC did not see
any creation of a positive image
of a candidate. What could there possibly be in this one minute
and seven seconds?
Vladimir Vladimirovich, you are so impressive,
so great.
No, no, not at all, I am not great, I am
just — well, really — simply very
impressive. Vladimir Vladimirovich, how did you
manage to solve all of Russia's problems? Russia
was practically in ruins, and you solved
all the problems.
Well, I solved most of them; we still have
some problems left, but of course I solved most of them.
And this, supposedly, is not the creation of a positive
image? He tells us that
he got rid of the oligarchs, showing
Gusinsky and Berezovsky, who have long
been gone. And yet in reality
Putin is the father of Russia's oligarchs,
not Yeltsin. Under Yeltsin there were
nine billionaires; now there are more than a hundred.
This is not something he created.
a positive image. Channel One
stopped airing this film as
such. There was a whole herd there, but really,
what is especially outrageous is that the Central
Election Commission is so deep in a puddle over this
that it recognizes this leaflet, it recognizes it
as somehow violating election
law, while a film like this
they watched and found no violations at all,
no violations were found. But they’re crooks—what can
you say? Twenty-seven thousand people are watching us
live right now.
Kyiv, yes. Danila asks me:
register on Twitter
to ask how to campaign among
Putin supporters. Their logic is
ironclad: if not Putin, then who?
I work for the Russian Ministry of Defense.
Exactly. That’s why they created
this kind of election, where a person takes
the ballot and sees Sobchak, Yavlinsky,
Grudinin—who hasn’t really campaigned at all—and
of course he’ll tell you, no matter whom
you try to persuade, he’ll say: well, you’re nuts,
there’s simply no one here to vote for.
Might as well vote for Putin.
That’s what all of this was designed for. So right now
it’s important simply to tell people that, well,
it just doesn’t happen that in a country of 145 million
people there isn’t another person to be found. There are
much richer countries with larger
populations, and they change their governments regularly.
One president replaces another,
and no catastrophe happens, nothing terrible occurs.
On the contrary, people
live better because power is transferable. But
if we think that in a country of 145
million people there hasn’t been and won’t be found
even one person who can
govern, then that is genuine
Russophobia. After all, nobody knew Putin until
the Yeltsin family and
Berezovsky made him president. Does
that mean Russia would have fallen into
some kind of abyss, I don’t know, and
shattered into pieces, or we all would have died
if Putin hadn’t appeared? Of course not.
Obviously not. So we need to show
the example of other countries and say that there are
two hard facts.
Fact number one: if power changes regularly,
the country grows richer
and lives better. Fact number two: if power
does not change, the country grows poorer and lives worse.
And here, ask all your acquaintances:
how is your salary, your purchasing
power? Has your salary gone up or
down? Have milk prices over the last
five years gone up or down? Have your
real incomes gone up or down? Prices
for, I don’t know, phones, food,
what about gasoline—have they gone up or down? Well,
maybe you think well of Putin, maybe you like him.
Fine. He has worked, and if you think he
has done a good job, then probably it’s time to replace
him with someone else. There need to be some methods
of pressure, some accountability—he must be serving
someone, and he probably should answer
questions. Probably his entire circle, from
Deripaska to Rotenberg,
how should I put it, all of them,
in short, all these guys—
the Rotenbergs, Timchenko, and all the rest—
they probably should provide some kind of
account of how exactly they
make their billions. Officials
should answer for their palaces. Talk about that
and show them more videos.
That is, you don’t need to immediately tell such
stubborn people that Putin is your
bad guy, a scoundrel, and so on. You should say:
let’s start with something simple—there must be rotation
of power.
Putin was fine, sure, but he has been in charge
long enough—18 years.
Let’s replace him with someone else, because
in recent years there has obviously been decay,
an obvious decline in people’s incomes,
plain for everyone to see. And by the way, one more
topic.
I was absolutely furious,
I was raging.
A question about Putin and, brothers, what
our country has turned into. We have
an activist, Ilya Popov.
He is twenty years old. He lives in a place that
you have probably never even heard of.
Ilya lives in the settlement of Zykova, or
Zaikova, more likely Zaikov, which you
have probably never heard of either, because it
is very remote, in the Irbit district
of Sverdlovsk Region—that is,
very far away, a small settlement. This Ilya Popov
is a truly wonderful person. He
took leaflets saying “Real citizens”
and distributed them around his settlement.
Because he was campaigning for a voters’ strike,
they used surveillance cameras
to identify him. And in the settlement
of, damn it, Zykova in Irbit district, some
police officers apparently had nothing else to do,
nothing better to do than use camera footage
to find this person
and identify him. Then they took him to court,
fined him 1,000 rubles, and then
they drove him to the factory administration office
of the dairy plant. In that settlement of Zykova there is
the Irbit dairy plant, which belongs,
incidentally, to the state—
a state-owned dairy plant. They brought him
to the director,
where the director gave him
a lecture about how I am a foreign
agent, that he is engaged in extremist
activity, and forced him—or fired him,
essentially made him write a resignation letter.
At that point he apparently decided not to escalate things and said, well...
All right, I’ll write it.
They fired a guy for putting up these
very leaflets. The director’s name is Suetin.
Sergei, I think—yes, Sergei Suetin.
Exactly right. Well, I read it and I was really
angry. I thought, what a bastard this
Sergei Suetin is. But most importantly—why? Well,
fine, maybe you’re even for Putin,
maybe you support Putin. Your employee, there in
his free time outside of work, was going around putting up
these leaflets. You’re at this dairy plant in
the settlement—why are you interfering with him? Why do you
think it’s necessary to summon him to your office
and tell him, “Write your resignation,” because
we supposedly have to kick people out of the plant
for putting up leaflets? And I
really
quickly found the reason. If you google
“Irbit dairy plant” and google
this very Sergei Suetin,
the director of this plant, you’ll find out why
he likes this government so much. Because this
dairy plant is state-owned, and not long ago it
announced a purchase of a car for this
very Suetin—a Lexus
570 for 7 million rubles (about US$110,000 at the time). The dairy plant is in
the settlement of Zykova, Irbit District,
Sverdlovsk Region.
After a huge scandal there,
even the ONF (All-Russia People’s Front, a pro-Kremlin movement) got upset, and they
canceled the purchase. But just think
about this man’s sheer arrogance. You work
at a state-owned plant—I don’t want to offend
anyone in Zykova, in the middle of nowhere, but
you want, damn it, to buy with state money
a car that isn’t even bought by
the presidents of developed countries. Show me,
find me a president of some
Scandinavian country, or, I don’t know, the head of a
major region—California’s GDP is larger
than Russia’s GDP—yes, look at what
the governor of California rides in. You’re unlikely to
see a Lexus 570 there.
And that’s why this bastard hates
this very Ilya Popov, because
he speaks out against it, because we
want to create a government under which it will be
impossible. First, the state
doesn’t need to own any dairy plant. Second,
you definitely don’t need to be
buying a car with public money. Want to buy
yourself a Lexus 570 for 7 million rubles (about US$110,000)?
The average salary at this plant is
25,000–30,000 rubles a month (about US$400–500). This Ilya Popov
worked there as an apprentice foreman
and was getting 10,000 rubles (about US$160). So you’re
paying people from 10,000 to 30,000 rubles, and
you want to buy a car for 7 million.
That’s why they adore this government so much.
That’s why—here’s the dairy plant’s website. If you
go there right now, it looks like this.
Put it on screen.
There you go, you see? This is the website
of a dairy plant: “Everyone to the polls, everyone to
Putin’s re-election,” because this Sergei
Suetin is a disgusting crook. He adores
this government with every fiber of his being. What other
government, what other system, would allow him
to put out tenders like that? He’d be jailed in
any normal—well, it wouldn’t even occur to anyone in
a normal society. The dairy plant workers would
smash his face in for something like that. In a normal
society, in a normal system, this is
unimaginable.
And they all need Putin, because Putin
gives them all this, gives them the ability to
keep everyone in poverty, to pay their workers minimum
wages, while driving past them
through puddles and mud so that, you know,
the water splashes right into those workers’ faces
from his fancy Lexus 570.
After we come to power, we’ll deal with this
Suetin. And I want to call on
the residents of the settlement of Zykova to tell this
Suetin, when you meet him, everything you think
needs to be said. We also have
a little time left to show
an interesting clip, because a very
interesting situation is developing in
one particular district of Moscow
Region, where
the opposition won and came to power.
Krasnoselsky District—you know that
there are several districts in Moscow where
independent deputies won a majority, but
in Krasnoselsky District in particular,
Ilya Yashin became head of the municipal council.
He brought in his own supporters, and they have
a very clear political line there.
They say it outright: we are against
Putin, we are the Solidarnost movement,
we are fighting this government. But in this
district, we are the authorities, and you, the opposition,
are the minority. And of course, United
Russia, Sobyanin, Rakova—they simply can’t
calm down. They created a special
movement literally called “Against
Yashin,” and they stage pickets outside
the municipal office. And it’s very
interesting to watch. And it’s curious
to see how this is supposed to work: well, they
came to power, they have some position, and
the opposition is allowed in too. They’re, well, most likely
being paid, hired protesters,
or maybe not—but in any case,
obviously there are people in Krasnoselsky District
who don’t like Yashin, and
right now they’re simply barging into
the municipal office and disrupting meetings,
while taking advantage of the fact that the police
support them in an informal way. So
let’s just watch literally a few
seconds—55 seconds—of how
a normal politician who has come to power
handles this, how he deals with the opposition
in his district. Five seconds, practically.
The girl on the trip stayed behind—it’ll be different.
If there are any proposals that would
I wanted to ask you under what working format
Thank you, colleagues. With that, I declare
the meeting of the Council of Deputies closed.
These issues were considered.
Let’s start with the obvious: you can see what kind of
situation this is.
Representatives of your movement are ready
to ensure representation at
the meetings of the Council of Deputies.
I can guarantee that on all
items on the agenda, if you wish, we
will give you the floor in accordance with
common sense. That is completely acceptable.
Let’s speak frankly: this is how we will
deal with the opposition in the beautiful
Russia of the future. This is how every politician should act.
Well, look, Yashin (Ilya Yashin, Russian opposition politician) didn’t
die from it. It’s his job. There are some
people who are really quite hostile to me, and they still
haven’t stopped — they push their way into the meeting hall, they
shout, they stand there with placards against Yash-
in — their movement is called “Against Yashin.”
I sat down with them, talked to them, shook hands — and suddenly
the tone was completely different.
That is the work of a normal politician, and our country
will become normal when politicians and
officials — and Yashin, by the way, despite being an opposition figure,
is still a municipal official —
if you live in Moscow, then he works on
a salary paid from your taxes, and in
that sense, he earns
his salary, because even with the opposition
he communicates the way one ought to communicate with
the opposition. Our time is almost up, but there is
one very small topic, and you may already have
read about it on my blog — a
small but pleasant victory, a small
victory over idiocy. Have you seen this
photograph?
For this photograph, our activist in
Arkhangelsk — it’s a famous photograph from
the Victory Parade — was prosecuted
for allegedly promoting Nazi
symbols, and because of it he could have
— as you can see from the photograph — been added to the
list of extremists. And I organized
a special campaign against this idiocy because,
to be honest, it infuriated me too.
It is a well-known
wartime photograph from our history, and these
idiots — and when I say “these idiots,” I mean
everyone involved: the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the courts —
everyone was involved, and at every stage
of the process they said, “Well yes, since he
put up this photograph,”
even though it is in history textbooks, that means he is guilty of
extremism, and he must be punished, penalized, and
fined.” And after we
launched the campaign — after I told this story —
thousands of people took part in the action
against idiocy by reposting this photograph themselves as a sign
of protest. And today, in the
court of appeal, he was acquitted.
Obviously under our pressure. I congratulate all of you
on this. Let’s work in such a way
that we achieve at least small victories
over the idiocy of this government, of these idiots.
There are many of them, and they keep pressing in on us. For now, unfortunately, we are
losing to them overall. But when we
come together, we can deal
these idiots and their idiocy a fairly painful
blow. And many thanks to everyone who watched.
See you next Thursday.
Sign up to be election observers — we’ll catch
the crooks red-handed. Goodbye.
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