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Hello. It’s 8:18 p.m. in Moscow, and Alexei is in the studio.

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Navalny—or “politically unsuccessful,” as

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Sergei Prikhodko called me, and who

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fortunately continues to be the subject

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of constant coverage, the hero

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of remarkable, astonishing discussions,

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and footage that is circulating on blogs and in the

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mass media. We are glad that

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this topic remains in the spotlight. We are very

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glad that people are discussing not only Ms.

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Rybka and the various circumstances that

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took place at the dacha (country house), but also, in fact,

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the main thing: the fact of corruption, the fact that

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Mr. Prikhodko, who calls me

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a loser, is in fact a bribe-taker.

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At this point I don’t even know which is better to be:

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a loser or a bribe-taker. From my point

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of view, it’s better to be a loser, but

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apparently Sergei Prikhodko today

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feels like a winner again, because

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they blocked my blog, Navalny

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.com, and

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for us this is the main news. We want

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to discuss it right at the start. But let me

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remind you that you can send me

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questions on Twitter with the hashtag

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#Navalny2018, and I’ll try to

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answer them. And today we are raising money

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in support of the voters’ strike, but

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so, Sergei Prikhodko, Oleg Deripaska,

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all these wonderful figures, of course,

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who are backed by Vladimir Putin,

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blocked my blog today, and I

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have not the slightest doubt that this is

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of course not just about the pliant

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Ust-Labinsk court—yes, Ust-Labinsk—

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that tame court in Slavyansk,

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because Mr. Deripaska

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owns practically that entire town, and there is also

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a political desire on the part of the authorities

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to block this. Just look at what they

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blocked: the Navalny 2018 website, the

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Navalny.com website,

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the strike website, and the observer recruitment site.

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That is, all at once they

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blocked them after this court

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ruling. This is absolutely illegal, because

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obviously the strike website or the

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observer recruitment site has nothing to do with

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Deripaska’s private life and nothing to do with

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Prikhodko’s private life or with Rybka—there is nothing there.

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Moreover, this directly

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contradicts what is written even in the

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unlawful Roskomnadzor decision. Nevertheless,

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they basically said: great idea,

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if there’s some fake ruling saying

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we can block something connected to Navalny,

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let’s block everything at once. I want

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to say: we will do everything

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and I believe we will succeed in making sure this

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information is not removed from the internet.

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Roskomnadzor has already forced 29 media outlets

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to remove certain

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information. They’re running after everyone, and

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yes, they have made our lives much more difficult right now,

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though we are fairly

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effective at fighting these blocks.

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However, we will absolutely do

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everything so that information about the adventures of

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Deripaska and the adventures of Prikhodko not only

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remains on the Russian internet,

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but becomes even more accessible, and so that

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a large number—an even larger

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number—of people see it. I hope you

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will help us. Thanks to you, our

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film has already reached five million

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views. Please keep going,

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send it to your grandmothers, grandfathers—to everyone.

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Let millions of Russian citizens know

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what is happening. And of course, fighting

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blocks—the ability to get around blocks—

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is now simply a basic life skill in Russia.

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If you still haven’t learned how to do it,

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make sure you do. I wanted to show you

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some kind of guide, a short

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guide on how to bypass blocks, but

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then I remembered that in Russia

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even instructions on how to bypass

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blocks are banned. If I show you one now,

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then Roskomnadzor will be obliged

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to block the people who

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explained how to fight

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the blocks. Still, I think I’ll

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take the risk and show you 40 seconds

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of explanation on how to bypass blocks, and

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I even somewhat hope that after this

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Roskomnadzor will block those who explained it.

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Forty seconds. Blocking popular internet

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resources

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is, to put it mildly, useless. As

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was emphasized by Russia’s Ministry of Communications,

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it fosters legal

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nihilism among citizens and increases their computer

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literacy.

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Dedicated to everyone suffering from blocked

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social networks but who can still watch us:

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there are many ways to bypass website blocking.

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One of the simplest is to

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download an app that changes your apparent country

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of location to one where the resource

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is allowed. Often this method opens

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access to many websites. Another option is to

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use an anonymizer; it also

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lets you visit websites without being tied

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to your computer’s address. Not exactly, of course,

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convenient—but still, wow, the TV channel

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Rossiya-24 was explaining how to bypass

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blocks.

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You’ve probably already guessed: they were doing

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this because evil officials

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were blocking websites in Ukraine. Exactly right:

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as soon as decisions were made in Ukraine

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to block Russian websites,

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righteous anger filled

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all the very same officials who

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block websites inside Russia and then began to

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to tell us on television, to tell us

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yes, Ukrainians, about how to get around

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the blocks. Well, we’ll need those instructions too.

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We will. Still, the simplest thing

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you can do is download

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my blog’s app.

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The links are in the description of this video.

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There’s an Android app there, and there’s

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an iOS app.

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No blocking will stop it, and you

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can use it easily. I don’t even want

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to go into great detail telling you

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about it. I’ll dwell on the legal aspects, well,

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though that’s almost pointless. Any person

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who is even a little bit of a lawyer, or at least

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somewhat familiar with legal procedures

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in this country, would simply burst out

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laughing if you told them the story of

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how

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on a weekend you can come to court,

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get a hearing scheduled immediately, and on that

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same weekend day

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obtain interim measures that will block

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something somewhere across the whole country, while

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doing so without notifying, essentially, what should we call them,

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the affected parties involved. More than that, with

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the court’s official position being that this

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doesn’t concern me. Just appreciate the elegance

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of the Deripaska, Prikhodko, and Putin combination.

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We’ll block Navalny’s resources, and when he

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comes and says, “Hey, give me the paperwork,” we’ll say

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“This doesn’t concern you.” That is the official

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wording: that Navalny’s interests are not

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affected by the blocking of Navalny’s resources.

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Navalny’s. Everything is clear with the Russian

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courts. What interests me more

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is the moral assessment of what

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was happening on Deripaska’s yacht.

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Prikhodko and so on. So, we can see that

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all the figures in our case were silent this

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week, silent. Prikhodko said

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something to the effect that if it were up to him,

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he’d deal with it “man to man,”

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but wouldn’t. After that, they started blocking everything,

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and the first official

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high-ranking government official who

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spoke on whether this was acceptable or not,

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normal or abnormal, what

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was happening on that yacht, was the minister,

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actually, the minister

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for Open Government, Mikhail Abyzov. You

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know that he is an old friend of our

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Anti-Corruption Foundation, because

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he is usually the one who blocks everything we

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have collected—several times, 100,000

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signatures under various

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bills.

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Under the procedure, it was Abyzov and

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his ministry that were supposed to

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review them, and they successfully

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buried them every time. We released

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an investigative film about the luxury real estate

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of Mr. Abyzov in Italy. Today

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the TV Rain channel (an independent Russian TV channel), thanks to them, took

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a short comment. So, as a minister,

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how does he assess what happened, including from

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a moral point of view? Let’s watch.

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There,

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1 minute 21 seconds: “Complete nonsense, and don’t

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confuse

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normal comradely, friendly

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relations with some kind of offerings,

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bribes. A bribe implies the provision of

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a service, and this is complete nonsense.”

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Then: “By the way, I worked in business

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for 20 years. All oligarchs, one way or another, are either my

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friends, or people with whom I

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worked. I am connected to them by friendly

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relations. So now I can’t go to a restaurant

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with them anymore? What, uh,

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what difference does it make? Maybe I’m not even allowed

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to… what’s the essence here? What’s the point of a car—

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can you explain to me why it’s expensive, and in

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a car, well,

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can’t people ride in the same car? So what?”

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Listen, and there’s no need to turn everything

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into absolute nonsense and some kind of absolute

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phantasmagoria.

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The fact that people want publicity, and for that

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they blow up sordid stories, dig into dirty

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laundry and private life—that is a matter of

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upbringing. That’s a question for their parents. Everyone

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has their own moral bar. I can say

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that Prikhodko is an absolutely decent man. I

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work with him. He is a person who

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deserves the highest praise, deep

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respect, a consummate professional and a true

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friend, and I am glad that I work with such

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people. And all those who throw around

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filth—God will judge them.”

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I’m trying to find my moral bar. It has

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fallen so low that it’s impossible to find. It’s

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somewhere, apparently, on the fourth floor or

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the third, because, well—even to me

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Abyzov, a government minister,

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sitting in his Italian villa,

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Prikhodko with Deripaska, surrounded by

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dancing escort girls, turns to

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me and says, “So, Alexei, where is your

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moral bar? What is happening to you?”

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That’s a question for your parents:

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they raised you badly,

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they say. And meanwhile, when they

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address me, right past them go

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some half-naked girls providing escort services,

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they are discussing things, they are giving each other bribes.

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There is nothing normal about that.

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A minister can say to the whole country:

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“Fine, an honest man, wonderful,

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an exemplary official.” Well, you can see

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how degraded this government has become. But

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these people are not even ashamed. At least he could have

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said, “I’m not going to discuss this,

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it concerns only Prikhodko,” or said

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“This character always lies, just as he lied

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about me there, so none of this

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interests me.” No, instead, you understand, they even

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try to climb up onto the podium and, standing there,

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Here they are, standing over us in nothing but their underwear, saying, well—

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guys,

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why are you digging through our underwear? It's

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indecent. And on top of that, they're shaming us for it,

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calling it indecent. I'd like to ask you to remember

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the episode that happened to Mikhail

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Mikhalych Kasyanov, whose home—his

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residence, his apartment—was obviously

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entered by illegal FSB officers (Russia's security service), or—I don't know who,

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who installed a camera and filmed him several

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times over several days, and all those

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bits of footage from his private life,

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his personal relationships—they showed it all on

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television. And when Kasyanov filed a

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lawsuit and said, well, actually everything here

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is a violation of the inviolability of private

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life,

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illegal surveillance and operational-search

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activity, illegal filming, and

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that all possible norms had been violated,

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violated—I don't know, basically this

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simply cannot be shown on

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television, with those kinds of scenes and

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dialogues.

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Kasyanov lost everywhere, and everywhere we

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were refused. They said something like,

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"Kasyanov's private life wasn't

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affected." But when we, without filming anyone

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with a hidden camera, simply show

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what was photographed and posted on Instagram

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by one of the participants in these events, suddenly there are questions about our

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upbringing, questions about our moral

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standards—which have fallen so low they're lying at the feet of

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Abyzov and at the feet of Prikhodko. Brazen,

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absolutely brazen,

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and, excuse me, completely out of control—

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utterly shameless people. So

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of course they need to be taken on hard; of course this

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government must be fought; of course we need to

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spread this video so that

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at least those brazen expressions on their faces

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might somehow slide off their physiognomies, because, well,

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it's simply impossible to listen to them as they still

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try to prove that they are, supposedly,

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highly moral people, while we are the ones digging through

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dirty laundry. Unfortunately, what really upset me

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was Instagram. Instagram is

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Facebook and Zuckerberg, after all,

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because I still don't think YouTube

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will delete our videos—at least not for now.

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It's holding out. But Instagram deleted two

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photos. And since we have those

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photos, we'll show those very

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photos. Here is photo number one: we

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see Deripaska with Nastya Rybka on a yacht.

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Photo number two—Instagram, unfortunately,

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at the request of

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Roskomnadzor (Russia's media and internet regulator), deleted it, and in doing so effectively became

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part of the Russian censorship

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and corruption machine. That's very

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upsetting. But I see quite a lot of

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Western media writing about this, and I hope that

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the public will now somehow give

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Zuckerberg—or those who made these

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decisions—a good dressing-down, because this is

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absolutely, absolutely outrageous and

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unacceptable. But when

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they take the side of crooks and

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help those crooks hide their

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corrupt little schemes,

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This whole affair already has many participants: Rybka,

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Prikhodko, Deripaska—and a lot has already

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been written about various people. Some write about

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Deripaska, publishing articles and

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investigations into why this might have happened,

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some even offering conspiracy theories

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about who supposedly commissioned our investigation against

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Deripaska. It's always very funny to read.

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Huge biographies of Prikhodko are coming out,

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and there's a very interesting

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recollection about Prikhodko in a book by

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Yelena Tregubova,

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*Notes of a Kremlin Digger*.

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The book came out in the early 2000s, and it has a very

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interesting section on Prikhodko—read it. A lot is also being written about

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Rybka herself. And there is one

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absolutely astonishing figure in

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this whole case by the name of Alex Lesley.

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This very Alex Lesley—I don't even know

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exactly who he is; it's hard for me to

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define this person's occupation, but

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he's described as a sex coach, and Rybka is both a sex

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coach and a guru at the same time,

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well, some kind of academic supervisor—no,

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some kind of mentor, because she

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constantly talks about him. Let's

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take a few seconds to hear what Nastya

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says about Alex Lesley, the two coaches

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who for almost a year have been helping

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you—and here's what came of it.

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You can do everything.

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I believe in you. So that's some kind of her

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coach, and she repeatedly claimed that

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Deripaska set all this up because

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he is jealous of Alex Lesley, and she

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is nominating Alex Lesley as a candidate for

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president. There he is, sitting behind the wheel,

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looking cool, dancing.

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He turned out to be an astonishing person, because

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when people started googling him—well,

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just googling him—we found out that his

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real name is not Alex Lesley

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but Alexander Kirillov, including because

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when a lawsuit was filed over reposts about him, it turned out

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that he is, no less, a resident of

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the Skolkovo Innovation Center. You can see

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his photos there at Skolkovo. This

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photo

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was on the website until quite recently

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of the Skolkovo Innovation Center. If

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you go there right now, you'll

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read an absolutely astonishing

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profile

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of Alex Lesley on the innovation center's website. You can see the

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photo has been discreetly removed, but

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it still says he is a science director, a theologian,

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and an investor in the Center for Intellectual...

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forecasting systems

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a participant and speaker at international

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congresses, an author and developer

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of artificial intelligence systems with

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increasing complexity, increasing

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complexity, and he works at that very

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wonderful, amazing innovation

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center Skolkovo (Russia's state-backed innovation hub)

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which you and I, dear YouTube

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viewers, spent 132 billion

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rubles (about 1.4 billion USD), so look, you can see

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this is from a government decree

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this isn't my analysis, these are funds that

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were allocated to the Skolkovo information center

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where artificial systems

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of artificial intelligence with increasing

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complexity are being worked on by Alexander

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Kirillov, and

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and

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Alex Lesley. I spent some time and

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tried to find some trace of his

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scientific work—they obviously ought to exist

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because, well, to be honest, as for Alex

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I don't really have any complaints at all

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there's even a kind of—not admiration, but

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recognition of his audacity, that he even

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got in there and

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became part of this amazing

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Medvedev-era innovation center

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Skolkovo. Well, I was looking for some trace

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of scientific activity or some visualization

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of what seemed to be a project from this

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artificial intelligence, space

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programs—there's a lot written there

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I found it, I found it: there was a 52-second video

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but I cut it down because I thought you

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wouldn't survive all of it. You're about to watch 26 seconds

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now—an innovation project that

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was obviously, or most likely, funded

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by the Skolkovo innovation center. Twenty-six seconds.

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Dear Russians, now the future

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president of the Russian Federation

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Alex Lesley will present to you the new anthem

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of Russia, 'To Serve'—that was Alex Lesley

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a resident of the innovation center

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Skolkovo

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on which you and I spent 132

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billion rubles (about 1.4 billion USD)

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Perfect video. He's the best resident. I

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really think Alex Lesley should be made

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the symbol of the innovation center

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he and a bear should be there together, and maybe

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even Medvedev (former Russian president and prime minister) in the same style could

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take part like that too. There were

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three girls there, right, and the fourth should be

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Medvedev lying there with an iPhone or something

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turning around and talking about how

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Russia is about to see a breakthrough in innovation—that's

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exactly how it should be. It's absolutely

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brilliant, amazing, it seems to me, just

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a perfect characterization of everything

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that's happening in our country, and

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those of you who expect that from Putin or

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from Medvedev there could be some

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improvements in our country—technological

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breakthroughs or whatever. Sure, Elon Musk

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launches things, and we can too, we

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can do something—artificial

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intelligence or biotechnology or

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nanotechnology or whatever—everyone waiting

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for that, guys, watch this clip

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more often. This is the ceiling for innovation

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technology that it can provide

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the Putin regime—this is the ceiling. And what's more

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if you keep getting upset, they

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will block it too, and I have no doubt that

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tomorrow or the day after, Roskomnadzor (Russia's media and internet regulator)

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will declare that this also needs to be

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blocked. The previous episode, by the way,

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Navalny 2018, exactly the same—they

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put it on the register of banned websites, and

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they'll add this one too, because these are secret

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technologies he's just

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shown—not everyone is supposed to see them

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not everyone. From cheerful topics, let's move to

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serious ones, and even partly sad ones, because

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after all, the main international

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news story, and a very serious one with

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long-term

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consequences for Russia, of course, was

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the situation in Syria, and

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it was connected with the so-called Wagner guys

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and a huge number of media outlets, a huge

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number of people, spent a week

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basically discussing what happened

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because even now we don't really

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understand what happened. Well, there are

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some facts, probably, that

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can't be denied: there was some kind of

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combat clash in Syria, and in the course of it

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the Americans bombed

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and destroyed a column

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of certain people—no one really understands who

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they were. Among those people there were

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some Russian citizens, and

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the estimates varied wildly. So

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at first they were talking about hundreds of these people, and

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among those saying so was Igor

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Strelkov, who, well, we know

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for sure that he maintains ties with

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these people and has some

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information. Then it was said that 20

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or so had died, then Bloomberg

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in turn reported that actually

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200 people had died. There is a

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research organization, a community

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group calling itself CIT (Conflict Intelligence Team); they

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write a lot about this, by the way—I recommend them to everyone

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and Ruslan Leviev from there

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said that 200 people is

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an obvious exaggeration, but most likely

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there were 30 to 40 dead there, and we still

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can't understand what exactly

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happened there, how many people died, how many

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were Russian citizens. But today Maria

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Zakharova said that as a result of the

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strike, five Russians may have been killed

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and she still doubts whether they were Russians

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And this is an obvious lie, basically.

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Generally speaking, Ms. Zakharova never

22:11

tells a single word of truth.

22:14

Because even now there is already

22:15

documentary evidence

22:17

that at least eight people were killed, that is,

22:20

there are already—it's horrible—those very

22:24

weeping wives, those children left

22:27

orphaned,

22:28

funerals, and so on. At least eight

22:31

Russian citizens who, whatever we may

22:34

think of them—you may consider them

22:35

good, you may consider them bad, you may

22:38

consider them anything at all—but in any case

22:40

some number of Russian citizens

22:42

have died. We do not know who died there or

22:45

why they died, because the

22:48

reports that have been appearing over

22:51

the last few days, well, they really

22:54

look monstrous, because

22:55

the American command says that

22:58

the Americans bombed a convoy in which

23:01

some people were traveling, and before

23:04

they bombed that convoy, they requested

23:06

information from Russia's Ministry of Defense

23:09

on whether there were Russian servicemen or

23:13

quasi-servicemen there, and the Ministry of

23:15

Defense told them there were none. This is

23:19

the official statement of the U.S. Secretary of Defense.

23:21

So of course we should all

23:23

treat it with some skepticism, but this is a serious

23:25

accusation. It is an accusation that

23:27

the Ministry of Defense simply sold out,

23:29

betrayed Russian citizens, regardless of whether

23:32

they were regular servicemen or not. They said:

23:34

there are no Russians there,

23:35

after which they were all blown apart and killed—

23:37

our citizens. And we can see that the Americans

23:40

are, in general, reluctantly acknowledging this, because

23:43

well, nobody likes the idea of

23:45

a clash in which Americans and Russians

23:46

kill each other.

23:47

Naturally, the entire press jumps on this:

23:50

is this World War III, an escalation,

23:52

nobody wants that. But if these

23:57

facts are confirmed,

23:58

then this is, of course, a serious question for

24:01

the Ministry of Defense, which simply—

24:03

again, it does not matter whether they were bad or good—

24:05

they were Russian citizens, and they said

24:08

essentially: please bomb them, ours are not there,

24:10

even though they knew ours were there. And of course,

24:12

Mr. Peskov's response was absolutely monstrous

24:14

after the first reports.

24:17

And after reports, including fairly well-founded

24:19

reports that at least dozens

24:21

of people had died there, he was asked whether

24:24

some kind of mourning should be declared, but apparently

24:26

Peskov said something to the effect of:

24:30

What are you talking about? I do not understand what is happening there,

24:33

and in general there are no

24:36

Russian citizens there, no servicemen,

24:38

there is nobody there, and there is nothing

24:40

to discuss here.

24:41

I repeat: at that very moment, there were being published

24:44

interviews, video interviews—you can

24:46

watch them—with people familiar with these

24:48

very groups, giving some kind of

24:51

Cossack (semi-military traditionalist) officers, unit leaders, whoever,

24:54

and they say: yes,

24:57

our men died, from our district, from our

24:59

city, from our—whatever their unit is called—

25:01

our Cossack association.

25:03

These facts exist, everyone knows about them, and

25:06

the only ones who simply refuse

25:08

to acknowledge Russian citizens are state officials,

25:10

who disown and betray

25:12

Russian citizens. And once again, we are all obliged

25:17

to raise the question: what were we doing in Syria, and

25:20

who exactly are these Russian citizens

25:23

who are doing something there

25:25

and taking part in some operations? And I

25:28

would simply like to draw attention to the fact that

25:29

there is this discussion going on: well, there is

25:32

the Wagner PMC, a private military company,

25:34

like the Americans have, and they do roughly

25:37

the same thing the Americans do. No,

25:40

guys, let's establish a few

25:43

clear facts. There is a certain man

25:47

who is called Wagner. About this

25:51

man, we know his surname and first name, and there is a

25:53

photograph of him. His name is Dmitry Utkin. There he is

25:57

at some Kremlin

26:00

reception attended by Putin as well.

26:04

There is no organization called

26:07

the Wagner PMC,

26:08

and there cannot be, because many people

26:12

mistakenly think—I see even

26:14

interviews with some people who

26:16

sign themselves as the head of some

26:19

private military company or other—

26:21

that there can be a director or person like that. This

26:23

cannot exist.

26:24

There is not even a law on private military

26:26

companies in Russia that has passed even a first reading;

26:29

it has not even been considered yet, it is lying somewhere,

26:30

who knows where. In Russia there is Article

26:36

359 of the Criminal Code, which is called

26:39

"Mercenarism," and any Russian citizens

26:43

who, for money, for remuneration,

26:46

fight somewhere, do something with

26:49

weapons in their hands—under this article they are

26:53

mercenaries, and they must be brought to

26:55

criminal responsibility. So you see,

26:57

we have at the very least a gray

26:59

zone, obviously involving some kind of corruption,

27:01

some people, some organization that receives

27:03

money—from where and how, we do not know. It cannot be a

27:06

legal entity.

27:07

It cannot be, under the laws of the Russian

27:09

Federation. That means there is some kind of

27:10

huge flow of cash, or something

27:12

else. We know this now; repeatedly

27:16

Fontanka (a Russian news outlet) has written about it, and many

27:17

investigations show that this so-called

27:19

Wagner PMC is, that is,

27:21

some kind of illegal armed

27:23

formation engaged in who knows what.

27:26

but at the very least for participation in combat

27:28

operations in Donbas and in Syria, but

27:31

it is effectively financed by the man

27:34

who is commonly referred to as the

27:37

"Putin's chef"—Mr. Prigozhin—about whom we

27:39

have conducted many investigations, and about whom

27:42

we know for certain that he

27:44

feeds off the theft of

27:47

the Defense Ministry. But perhaps he

27:48

because he receives absolutely

27:50

enormous contracts from them, and this is

27:55

a cartel arrangement. But look at our

27:56

investigation: we have documentary proof of

27:58

established corruption. Maybe part of the

28:02

money he steals, and part of it is simply given to him. This guy

28:04

from Wagner—maybe that is connected in

28:07

one way or another, but in any case

28:09

what we see here is a very strange and

28:13

suspicious connection between this

28:16

"Putin's chef" and the people fighting in Syria.

28:19

Moreover, not long ago it was reported that

28:22

that

28:24

let me read it to you now: *Fontanka* wrote

28:26

in 2017 that a quarter of the oil and

28:29

gas extracted from territory recaptured for Assad

28:32

could go to a company

28:34

linked to Putin's chef, Yevgeny

28:36

Prigozhin. In return, he was supposed to liberate

28:39

these plants and oil-processing facilities,

28:42

some gas fields, and so on.

28:44

So this is how it seems to work: there are

28:48

certain people who finance

28:50

the Russian state, because, well, who pays

28:52

these unfortunate women the so-called

28:55

death benefits and everything else? These

28:57

people all train in training

29:00

camps run by the Defense Ministry.

29:02

People talk about this too, and it

29:05

comes straight from Cossack leaders and other people

29:08

involved in all this. That is, they

29:10

train at official

29:12

Defense Ministry bases, and then they go on

29:14

to recapture or seize certain gas

29:18

fields and oil fields for

29:20

Prigozhin. But why do we need this? Why should we be

29:24

mixed up in this? Why does the Russian state

29:27

need any of this? Why should Russian citizens

29:29

have to take part in some kind of

29:31

clashes—I don't know, with anyone at all,

29:33

with Americans, with Kurds, and so on—for

29:35

what purpose? So that Putin's chef

29:37

can make money. And the latest article that

29:40

appeared in *Kommersant*—more than that, another

29:43

statement from the Defense Ministry

29:46

shows an extremely strange thing, namely

29:48

that it effectively states that

29:50

these armed Wagner Group units

29:54

were already acting even without coordination with our

29:57

own military authorities and were apparently trying to

29:59

seize some kind of military facility.

30:01

The Americans bombed them, and this was either

30:04

a lack of coordination or something else. In other words,

30:06

there are some groups effectively financed

30:08

with taxpayers' money—groups that, well,

30:12

de facto act on behalf of the Russian Federation.

30:14

After all, not everyone knows they are Russian.

30:16

The Defense Ministry sends them; they all

30:19

obviously arrive through our military

30:20

base and then go about resolving the personal

30:24

financial interests of Prigozhin.

30:27

All of this looks very, very

30:30

dubious, and of course all of it should

30:33

be investigated carefully, in the most

30:35

thorough way possible. And once again I want

30:37

to note that there is no real parallel here. In

30:39

interviews one often has to read, well,

30:41

that Americans have private military

30:42

companies, and we therefore have a private

30:45

military company too, as they exist all

30:48

over the world. They do not take part in combat

30:51

operations; they sign official

30:53

contracts with the U.S. Department of Defense

30:55

or with other organizations for

30:59

security services, for example. They guard things, they

31:02

conduct training, including in Iraq.

31:05

That famous company Blackwater,

31:07

the private military company that

31:09

is constantly compared to Wagner,

31:11

they trained the local police. As soon as

31:13

it becomes known that they

31:16

were involved in direct combat clashes,

31:18

those cases are investigated. You can find

31:21

that 125 specific cases were investigated

31:25

in which these private military companies,

31:27

American ones, took part in

31:30

direct combat, because

31:32

they are not allowed to participate in it. They

31:33

were guarding something, and they were attacked.

31:35

Our situation is completely different: some

31:39

very strange people are actually waging

31:42

war, conducting combat operations. How can that

31:46

possibly be proper? It is obvious that no

31:48

private military company, without the support of

31:50

a regular army, is capable of

31:52

fighting, because a private military

31:54

company cannot have an air force, cannot have

31:57

drones, cannot have satellite

31:59

imagery, satellite communications, cannot have

32:01

tanks—at least not in a Russian

32:03

private military company. So this is

32:05

some kind of enormous gray

32:08

zone, an intermediary between the Defense

32:10

Ministry and that crook Prigozhin, and in this

32:13

zone there are literally billions

32:17

of dollars—at the very least, many tens of

32:19

billions of rubles—that these parties

32:22

are dragging off in different directions. And again

32:24

the question is: why do we need this? Exactly. I

32:27

just saw a message on Twitter, and

32:28

people are dying, while

32:30

someone else is raking in money by the shovel-load. People are dying,

32:33

and you and I will have to pay death benefits

32:36

to the families of the dead, social support—well, I mean,

32:40

this is genuinely a human tragedy, however

32:42

you look at it: orphaned children, wives, and everything

32:46

else. Besides, people will

32:49

be coming back, and it is not very clear in what

32:51

mental state they will return—again, in interviews.

32:53

Read what the dead man's wife wrote—here it is.

32:55

She writes that he served in Donbas.

32:57

And then he came back, got bored, and

32:59

started thinking about his assault rifle again: where is

33:01

my beloved rifle? He missed it, and went off to this

33:05

Syria, where they gave him that rifle, and

33:07

it did not end very well. But when

33:10

people long for an assault rifle, the answer

33:13

from the normal side is this: join the army. In the army,

33:16

they give you a rifle. You join the regular army,

33:19

they give you your rifle, and it will

33:22

be kept under its assigned number in the armory.

33:24

You will receive it when you are supposed to,

33:25

and you will fire it when you are supposed to fire it.

33:28

You fire when ordered to—when you have received an order

33:30

from the commander-in-chief. But with our own hands we are

33:33

simply creating some kind of gangs that

33:36

will later roam around Russia and do

33:38

who knows what. In other words, nothing good

33:43

will come of this.

33:45

It will cost us an enormous amount of

33:47

money, and once again the main question is: why

33:49

do we need any of this? So, Andrei writes to me:

33:52

Shpagin dies, Nino Rota, those who went off

33:54

[__] for Putin—well, you can feel however you want about

33:58

them. Some consider them heroes,

34:01

and some do not consider them heroes at all, but

34:03

obviously these people went there to earn

34:05

money. But they are still Russian citizens,

34:07

they live next door to you.

34:09

Those who went [__] and those who did not go—it makes no

34:12

difference, they live here all the same, and however you

34:14

may feel about them, you will be paying their expenses, and

34:17

this—well, this idea of stupidly

34:21

rejoicing that they were killed over there,

34:23

like, "400 pro-Putin fighters, Putin supporters,"

34:25

"the Americans bombed them"—that is a stupid

34:27

position, absolutely, because these are

34:30

Russian citizens. Their families are still here,

34:32

their friends are still here. Some have died,

34:35

some will return here, and it is unclear what

34:37

will be going through their heads. This is our

34:39

shared problem, and of course this problem

34:41

must be treated accordingly. We must

34:44

all demand that these lying authorities,

34:47

this disgusting Putin, who

34:49

has already declared several times that we

34:51

withdrew

34:52

our ground forces from Syrian territory,

34:55

explain to us what is happening. If you

34:57

withdrew them, then who was killed there while wives here

35:01

are crying in Sverdlovsk Oblast (a region in Russia)?

35:02

Let them answer that, then.

35:05

Vladislav Lozinsky: In the Beautiful Russia

35:07

of the Future, won't they jam Elon Musk's internet?

35:09

Elon Musk's, I mean—Elon Musk.

35:10

First he has to roll out his internet—at least that's what he

35:12

said. It all sounds nice; we'll see. But anyway,

35:15

to wrap up the Syria topic:

35:17

the main thing we need—I suggest,

35:20

I simply urge everyone not to

35:22

focus on the personalities of these

35:23

people [__], they are [__], but simply to

35:26

talk about the fact that we, as a state,

35:29

as a society,

35:30

as communities, whoever we are, must get

35:33

an answer to the question of why people with the same

35:36

passports as ours are dying somewhere, and for

35:38

what they are dying, and why there are some

35:42

murky financial flows connected with

35:45

these deaths.

35:48

Andrei asks me whether it could

35:50

turn out that, as a result of low turnout,

35:52

foreign presidents will say to Putin,

35:53

"Sorry, man, we don't want to have

35:55

anything to do with you." It won't happen that way, Andrei, because

35:57

foreign presidents do not really care what

35:59

is happening here. Foreign presidents

36:01

say: these Russians are deciding their own

36:03

problems themselves. In other words, if they

36:05

allow Putin to remain in power for 18 years,

36:08

to rob them openly, then that is

36:11

the Russians' problem. There is no need to expect that

36:13

some Western politicians will

36:16

be outraged. They may consider him

36:17

a crook, a completely indecent

36:19

person, and we will suffer because of that, but

36:21

they are not going to solve our problems. So then,

36:24

since we've started talking about

36:26

the elections,

36:26

let's once again plunge to the bottom, where, according to

36:33

Bykov, my moral bar lies,

36:36

because somewhere down there alongside that

36:38

moral bar, deep below,

36:40

lie our so-called elections and

36:43

the ratings of the so-called candidates.

36:46

As you remember, we promised

36:48

that we would continue conducting weekly

36:50

opinion polls so that you

36:52

could get real polling data about what

36:55

is actually happening right now. Let's take a look.

36:57

Let's start with the candidates' ratings. What would happen

37:00

if the election were held this Sunday?

37:02

First slide, please. On the first slide we

37:10

see that, essentially, nothing has

37:12

changed. Putin's rating is still 80

37:14

percent, Zhirinovsky is at 7 percent,

37:16

Grudinin is at 6 percent. But a change of

37:19

one percent does not really

37:22

mean anything for us, because that is below

37:25

the margin of error. We still see the main thing:

37:27

Grudinin and Zhirinovsky are fighting for

37:29

second place, and none of these candidates

37:32

has even the slightest prospect

37:34

of forcing a second round or in any way

37:36

making an impact in this election. In other words,

37:40

nothing at all is happening with them.

37:42

Let's look at the negative

37:44

ratings. Maybe they at least managed to do

37:45

something to make their negative

37:47

ratings go up. Let's see

37:49

whom our country hates. Next

37:54

slide.

37:57

Here is the next slide. "Hate" may be too

37:59

strong a word, but we can see that our voters

38:01

are still very strongly irritated by

38:03

Ksenia Sobchak by a wide margin. Next comes

38:07

Grigory Yavlinsky, then Zhirinovsky.

38:10

Well, Putin still has a low negative rating.

38:12

Mm, obviously people are simply already

38:14

afraid to say

38:18

whether they like him or not; they all don't

38:21

include him in their negative ratings. Why

38:25

aren't the ratings rising, why aren't the negative

38:28

ratings rising, why is nothing changing at all? It

38:31

this gives us the answer to that question,

38:34

gives us the answer. Next slide, let's

38:36

look at the campaign

38:38

materials of which candidates have you

38:41

come across over the past two weeks? So,

38:43

let's go straight to the last column

38:45

and look: "none of the above."

38:47

Seventy-four percent. That is,

38:48

seventy-four percent of people,

38:50

an absolute majority, do not see

38:53

any campaigning at all and do not see

38:55

any election campaign whatsoever. Well,

38:57

there's Zhirinovsky,

38:59

well, naturally, Putin, Grudinin,

39:00

Zhirinovsky, Sobchak somehow at least

39:02

are taking part—they appear on television,

39:05

so

39:06

the minimum figure is Sobchak at seven

39:08

percent, Zhirinovsky 12, Grudinin

39:11

and Putin 17. Yes, they are much more,

39:13

incidentally, noticed. All the rest of our

39:16

fellow citizens do not see any

39:19

election campaign at all. That's rather sad.

39:23

And by the way, have you seen any

39:28

any campaign materials? I

39:30

today an employee from our office brought

39:33

and showed me some campaign material

39:35

that, for example, Mr.

39:37

Tsvetov had put out: improperly parked

39:39

BMWs decorated

39:41

with the Party of Growth logos and all

39:44

the rest. So, you can see what they

39:45

are doing—they are doing nothing, just some

39:49

little stunts for a funny photo,

39:51

something on social media, some kind of

39:52

statement that will be discussed by

39:54

27 people on Facebook, but nothing

39:57

meaningful—on not a single important issue

40:00

do they speak out. But for you

40:02

we specifically asked

40:04

the question: what do people consider important

40:07

issues? It's quite interesting. Let's look at

40:10

which issues people want candidates

40:12

to speak about: the quality of education,

40:15

medical care—59 percent.

40:18

The number one issue Russian citizens want

40:20

them to talk about is this; then rising prices and

40:22

poverty—50 percent; housing and utilities—47 percent;

40:25

corruption, which pleases me—40 percent

40:27

of people believe it needs to be discussed.

40:29

Corruption. Let's see where

40:31

the issues are that our candidates keep

40:34

going on and on about.

40:35

So we go, go, go, go, go, all the way to

40:38

the very end: the country's participation in

40:41

international military conflicts—an issue

40:43

that matters to me, but

40:44

still, civil rights,

40:46

democratic freedoms, freedom of speech—

40:48

five percent. That is, Russia in

40:51

international politics—12 percent. That's

40:53

all our candidates are doing.

40:56

Right now Grudinin says he will

40:58

annex Donbas (a region in eastern Ukraine); Sobchak is going

41:01

to the United States for four days in the middle of the campaign and

41:05

there too pretends to be some great

41:07

foreign-policy figure; Yavlinsky is asked

41:11

about Syria—an important issue—and that supports him,

41:13

but nevertheless the fact remains the fact:

41:15

most people are not interested in this.

41:18

International politics does not

41:20

interest them at all—not Ukraine, not America, not

41:23

Syria, not Donbas. They want to know why

41:26

prices are rising; they want to hear something about

41:29

corruption; they want to hear something about

41:32

the state of healthcare and education.

41:34

But apparently there are no actions, no statements on

41:36

these issues, no debates on these issues, nothing at all anymore.

41:39

There is absolute emptiness. So,

41:41

really, there is not much to discuss here.

41:43

There is no election campaign.

41:47

These candidates are doing everything they can not to

41:49

be noticed, and there is one month left until the election.

41:51

One month remains until the election, and not one of

41:56

these candidates, as far as I know,

41:58

has either debates or even some video clip

42:00

that, by number of views, has at least

42:02

surpassed this livestream of mine. And it's not simply

42:05

because—it's not because I'm so great

42:06

or we're so great, but because they don't do a damn thing,

42:09

don't want to do anything, because of the conditions

42:12

and arrangements. So don't go to these

42:15

elections; don't take part in this disgrace.

42:19

Sign up as election observers in order

42:22

to prevent them from falsifying turnout

42:25

and do not be part of this shameful

42:29

worthless, pathetic spectacle. If

42:31

the candidates are not fighting for your vote, then

42:33

why would you go to the polling station? You cannot

42:35

be more active than the candidate, well,

42:38

you have to admit, that's obvious.

42:41

It looks strange when you, let's say,

42:43

argue somewhere on social media

42:45

and say, "I absolutely have to go to

42:47

the election," while your candidate, whose name is on the ballot,

42:50

is not actually participating in this election de facto.

42:53

He just signed up, that's all, while you are

42:55

running somewhere. Don't run anywhere—boycott it

42:58

and call on everyone to boycott it. But

43:00

take part in campaigning—well, people are asking.

43:04

I see: "I have already signed up as an observer.

43:06

Should I wait for training?" Of course, we will train everyone,

43:09

and of course we will send

43:12

prepared people to the polling

43:13

stations. So, Alyosha Dementyev, well, come back, I

43:17

only have one of them.

43:18

I'm 19 years old, I read—I was a participant

43:20

in a rally in Monchegorsk, then I didn't

43:22

manage to read anything. Now, while they return it to me,

43:24

LK asks: "What do you think

43:26

about the news that for a murder..."

43:28

homeless animals, but killing animals

43:30

money was allocated for stray animals, secondly

43:33

The question is: how can I run into you and

43:34

take a photo with you in Moscow, run into you

43:38

Taking a photo with me in Moscow is very

43:39

easy — at any rally, there will be the Nemtsov March

43:41

(in memory of Boris Nemtsov, opposition politician), by the way, come to

43:42

the rally and take a photo with me

43:44

however much you want. The news that

43:47

indeed, the Moscow city government

43:49

allocated money for killing stray

43:52

animals — and not only in Moscow, but at the federal level

43:54

in all the cities where the World Cup will be held

43:55

they should have allocated money for sterilizing

43:57

animals, not for their mass killing, but this is

44:01

stupidity. It is cruelty.

44:04

And besides, it is a pointless waste

44:06

of money. There are tons of studies that

44:08

show that

44:09

with stray animals, you can

44:10

kill all the cats and dogs

44:13

and within three years the populations will recover, because

44:15

that is how large cities work — an empty niche

44:18

gets refilled, and the population of stray

44:21

animals recovers. So this is pointless

44:23

stupidity and cruelty. Is it normal that

44:25

my relatives call me a traitor for

44:28

supporting you? No, it is not

44:30

normal for them to call you

44:32

a traitor. You

44:33

if you support me, if

44:35

you support our movement, then you are

44:36

a patriot of Russia to a much greater

44:39

extent, apparently, than your relatives, dear

44:42

Dio Brandon. Talk to them, well,

44:45

show them the video about the little fish, show them

44:48

Abyzov's house, by the way

44:51

show them first the comments by Abyzov and

44:53

Prikhodko that I showed you today

44:54

on TV Rain (independent Russian TV channel), and then

44:56

show them his estate in Italy and

44:58

ask your relatives: my dear family, tell me,

45:02

do you think I am a patriot or

45:04

a traitor when I speak out against people

45:08

like Abyzov, against people like Prikhodko, and

45:10

it seems to me that any normal person

45:11

would of course say — regardless of whether they like me or not —

45:13

they would say: of course, a patriot.

45:15

Yes, that is patriotism. Little Roll

45:19

asks me what happened to the quadcopter

45:21

Volodya, when Navalny becomes

45:24

president, Balotelli will be in charge of

45:26

intelligence in the country. But as for the quadcopter

45:28

Volodya's is still operational; we

45:31

use it and will keep using it, it just

45:33

is not suitable for the most important

45:35

operations. But of course we will

45:36

keep using it. I hope that when I become

45:39

president of Russia, there will be better

45:41

quality methods of intelligence and

45:42

intelligence tools than quadcopters

45:44

that can fly three kilometers (about 3 km).

45:46

Look at satellites — satellites now

45:49

technology has advanced so far

45:51

that objects the size of

45:53

a cigarette pack can already be seen from orbit. We

45:55

want to move beyond quadcopters. As for

46:01

campaigning, let's still talk a little

46:03

about that. So, we have established that our

46:05

opponents' candidates are not doing a damn thing

46:07

in terms of campaigning, so nobody notices them. But

46:10

Vladimir Putin is not asleep, Vladimir Putin

46:12

does not

46:13

pay for it from his campaign fund, and yet

46:16

he is simply constantly present on

46:18

television. More than that, they have started

46:19

rerunning a film that is absolutely

46:22

a disgusting, sycophantic film made by

46:24

the unfortunately brilliant director

46:27

Oliver Stone about Putin; they started

46:28

showing it on Channel One, and

46:30

the Central Election Commission, after

46:31

numerous complaints, by the way,

46:33

including one from Yavlinsky (liberal politician Grigory Yavlinsky), stated that

46:35

it does not recommend showing this film, but

46:37

after reviewing it, found no campaigning in it. Now I

46:41

have a leaflet here — this is our

46:44

leaflet, and as you can clearly see,

46:49

there is not a single mention of Putin, not

46:51

a single surname, not a single candidate. And yet

46:53

the Central Election Commission

46:55

considers it prohibited because it creates

46:58

a negative image of some candidate. Well,

47:00

apparently the word 'deception' again

47:02

makes them understand that

47:04

of course the word 'deception' means

47:06

Putin — even though his name is not written here.

47:07

The Central Election Commission

47:09

considers this campaigning, and the police across

47:12

the country are confiscating our leaflets. But

47:14

this film about Putin

47:15

contains, in their view, no campaigning at all.

47:17

Let me now show you literally

47:22

one minute and seven seconds from this film, and

47:24

you tell me yourselves: campaigning is

47:26

the creation of a positive image of a candidate.

47:31

In this excerpt, the CEC did not see

47:34

any creation of a positive image

47:36

of a candidate. What could there possibly be in this one minute

47:39

and seven seconds?

47:46

Vladimir Vladimirovich, you are so impressive,

47:48

so great.

47:49

No, no, not at all, I am not great, I am

47:52

just — well, really — simply very

47:53

impressive. Vladimir Vladimirovich, how did you

47:55

manage to solve all of Russia's problems? Russia

47:59

was practically in ruins, and you solved

48:01

all the problems.

48:01

Well, I solved most of them; we still have

48:04

some problems left, but of course I solved most of them.

48:06

And this, supposedly, is not the creation of a positive

48:09

image? He tells us that

48:11

he got rid of the oligarchs, showing

48:12

Gusinsky and Berezovsky, who have long

48:14

been gone. And yet in reality

48:18

Putin is the father of Russia's oligarchs,

48:20

not Yeltsin. Under Yeltsin there were

48:22

nine billionaires; now there are more than a hundred.

48:25

This is not something he created.

48:27

a positive image. Channel One

48:30

stopped airing this film as

48:33

such. There was a whole herd there, but really,

48:37

what is especially outrageous is that the Central

48:39

Election Commission is so deep in a puddle over this

48:41

that it recognizes this leaflet, it recognizes it

48:45

as somehow violating election

48:48

law, while a film like this

48:49

they watched and found no violations at all,

48:51

no violations were found. But they’re crooks—what can

48:54

you say? Twenty-seven thousand people are watching us

48:56

live right now.

48:58

Kyiv, yes. Danila asks me:

49:01

register on Twitter

49:02

to ask how to campaign among

49:03

Putin supporters. Their logic is

49:05

ironclad: if not Putin, then who?

49:07

I work for the Russian Ministry of Defense.

49:10

Exactly. That’s why they created

49:13

this kind of election, where a person takes

49:17

the ballot and sees Sobchak, Yavlinsky,

49:21

Grudinin—who hasn’t really campaigned at all—and

49:23

of course he’ll tell you, no matter whom

49:25

you try to persuade, he’ll say: well, you’re nuts,

49:27

there’s simply no one here to vote for.

49:29

Might as well vote for Putin.

49:31

That’s what all of this was designed for. So right now

49:35

it’s important simply to tell people that, well,

49:40

it just doesn’t happen that in a country of 145 million

49:44

people there isn’t another person to be found. There are

49:47

much richer countries with larger

49:49

populations, and they change their governments regularly.

49:52

One president replaces another,

49:55

and no catastrophe happens, nothing terrible occurs.

49:57

On the contrary, people

49:58

live better because power is transferable. But

50:02

if we think that in a country of 145

50:06

million people there hasn’t been and won’t be found

50:08

even one person who can

50:10

govern, then that is genuine

50:11

Russophobia. After all, nobody knew Putin until

50:14

the Yeltsin family and

50:16

Berezovsky made him president. Does

50:18

that mean Russia would have fallen into

50:20

some kind of abyss, I don’t know, and

50:24

shattered into pieces, or we all would have died

50:26

if Putin hadn’t appeared? Of course not.

50:29

Obviously not. So we need to show

50:32

the example of other countries and say that there are

50:34

two hard facts.

50:36

Fact number one: if power changes regularly,

50:39

the country grows richer

50:41

and lives better. Fact number two: if power

50:45

does not change, the country grows poorer and lives worse.

50:48

And here, ask all your acquaintances:

50:51

how is your salary, your purchasing

50:52

power? Has your salary gone up or

50:54

down? Have milk prices over the last

50:57

five years gone up or down? Have your

50:58

real incomes gone up or down? Prices

51:00

for, I don’t know, phones, food,

51:03

what about gasoline—have they gone up or down? Well,

51:06

maybe you think well of Putin, maybe you like him.

51:09

Fine. He has worked, and if you think he

51:12

has done a good job, then probably it’s time to replace

51:14

him with someone else. There need to be some methods

51:17

of pressure, some accountability—he must be serving

51:19

someone, and he probably should answer

51:21

questions. Probably his entire circle, from

51:24

Deripaska to Rotenberg,

51:26

how should I put it, all of them,

51:28

in short, all these guys—

51:31

the Rotenbergs, Timchenko, and all the rest—

51:33

they probably should provide some kind of

51:35

account of how exactly they

51:37

make their billions. Officials

51:39

should answer for their palaces. Talk about that

51:41

and show them more videos.

51:44

That is, you don’t need to immediately tell such

51:47

stubborn people that Putin is your

51:49

bad guy, a scoundrel, and so on. You should say:

51:51

let’s start with something simple—there must be rotation

51:53

of power.

51:53

Putin was fine, sure, but he has been in charge

51:56

long enough—18 years.

51:57

Let’s replace him with someone else, because

52:00

in recent years there has obviously been decay,

52:03

an obvious decline in people’s incomes,

52:04

plain for everyone to see. And by the way, one more

52:07

topic.

52:08

I was absolutely furious,

52:12

I was raging.

52:13

A question about Putin and, brothers, what

52:15

our country has turned into. We have

52:19

an activist, Ilya Popov.

52:22

He is twenty years old. He lives in a place that

52:25

you have probably never even heard of.

52:26

Ilya lives in the settlement of Zykova, or

52:31

Zaikova, more likely Zaikov, which you

52:33

have probably never heard of either, because it

52:34

is very remote, in the Irbit district

52:38

of Sverdlovsk Region—that is,

52:40

very far away, a small settlement. This Ilya Popov

52:43

is a truly wonderful person. He

52:46

took leaflets saying “Real citizens”

52:48

and distributed them around his settlement.

52:50

Because he was campaigning for a voters’ strike,

52:52

they used surveillance cameras

52:55

to identify him. And in the settlement

52:57

of, damn it, Zykova in Irbit district, some

52:59

police officers apparently had nothing else to do,

53:02

nothing better to do than use camera footage

53:04

to find this person

53:07

and identify him. Then they took him to court,

53:10

fined him 1,000 rubles, and then

53:13

they drove him to the factory administration office

53:16

of the dairy plant. In that settlement of Zykova there is

53:19

the Irbit dairy plant, which belongs,

53:22

incidentally, to the state—

53:23

a state-owned dairy plant. They brought him

53:25

to the director,

53:26

where the director gave him

53:28

a lecture about how I am a foreign

53:30

agent, that he is engaged in extremist

53:32

activity, and forced him—or fired him,

53:34

essentially made him write a resignation letter.

53:37

At that point he apparently decided not to escalate things and said, well...

53:39

All right, I’ll write it.

53:40

They fired a guy for putting up these

53:42

very leaflets. The director’s name is Suetin.

53:46

Sergei, I think—yes, Sergei Suetin.

53:48

Exactly right. Well, I read it and I was really

53:51

angry. I thought, what a bastard this

53:53

Sergei Suetin is. But most importantly—why? Well,

53:55

fine, maybe you’re even for Putin,

53:57

maybe you support Putin. Your employee, there in

54:00

his free time outside of work, was going around putting up

54:02

these leaflets. You’re at this dairy plant in

54:04

the settlement—why are you interfering with him? Why do you

54:07

think it’s necessary to summon him to your office

54:09

and tell him, “Write your resignation,” because

54:12

we supposedly have to kick people out of the plant

54:14

for putting up leaflets? And I

54:18

really

54:19

quickly found the reason. If you google

54:22

“Irbit dairy plant” and google

54:24

this very Sergei Suetin,

54:27

the director of this plant, you’ll find out why

54:30

he likes this government so much. Because this

54:34

dairy plant is state-owned, and not long ago it

54:37

announced a purchase of a car for this

54:40

very Suetin—a Lexus

54:43

570 for 7 million rubles (about US$110,000 at the time). The dairy plant is in

54:51

the settlement of Zykova, Irbit District,

54:53

Sverdlovsk Region.

54:55

After a huge scandal there,

54:58

even the ONF (All-Russia People’s Front, a pro-Kremlin movement) got upset, and they

55:01

canceled the purchase. But just think

55:03

about this man’s sheer arrogance. You work

55:06

at a state-owned plant—I don’t want to offend

55:09

anyone in Zykova, in the middle of nowhere, but

55:11

you want, damn it, to buy with state money

55:13

a car that isn’t even bought by

55:18

the presidents of developed countries. Show me,

55:22

find me a president of some

55:24

Scandinavian country, or, I don’t know, the head of a

55:27

major region—California’s GDP is larger

55:31

than Russia’s GDP—yes, look at what

55:33

the governor of California rides in. You’re unlikely to

55:36

see a Lexus 570 there.

55:38

And that’s why this bastard hates

55:43

this very Ilya Popov, because

55:45

he speaks out against it, because we

55:47

want to create a government under which it will be

55:50

impossible. First, the state

55:51

doesn’t need to own any dairy plant. Second,

55:54

you definitely don’t need to be

55:55

buying a car with public money. Want to buy

55:58

yourself a Lexus 570 for 7 million rubles (about US$110,000)?

56:02

The average salary at this plant is

56:05

25,000–30,000 rubles a month (about US$400–500). This Ilya Popov

56:08

worked there as an apprentice foreman

56:10

and was getting 10,000 rubles (about US$160). So you’re

56:13

paying people from 10,000 to 30,000 rubles, and

56:17

you want to buy a car for 7 million.

56:19

That’s why they adore this government so much.

56:21

That’s why—here’s the dairy plant’s website. If you

56:23

go there right now, it looks like this.

56:25

Put it on screen.

56:26

There you go, you see? This is the website

56:28

of a dairy plant: “Everyone to the polls, everyone to

56:31

Putin’s re-election,” because this Sergei

56:33

Suetin is a disgusting crook. He adores

56:39

this government with every fiber of his being. What other

56:41

government, what other system, would allow him

56:44

to put out tenders like that? He’d be jailed in

56:47

any normal—well, it wouldn’t even occur to anyone in

56:49

a normal society. The dairy plant workers would

56:52

smash his face in for something like that. In a normal

56:55

society, in a normal system, this is

56:57

unimaginable.

56:59

And they all need Putin, because Putin

57:03

gives them all this, gives them the ability to

57:06

keep everyone in poverty, to pay their workers minimum

57:09

wages, while driving past them

57:12

through puddles and mud so that, you know,

57:15

the water splashes right into those workers’ faces

57:17

from his fancy Lexus 570.

57:20

After we come to power, we’ll deal with this

57:23

Suetin. And I want to call on

57:27

the residents of the settlement of Zykova to tell this

57:30

Suetin, when you meet him, everything you think

57:32

needs to be said. We also have

57:37

a little time left to show

57:39

an interesting clip, because a very

57:42

interesting situation is developing in

57:44

one particular district of Moscow

57:46

Region, where

57:48

the opposition won and came to power.

57:50

Krasnoselsky District—you know that

57:53

there are several districts in Moscow where

57:54

independent deputies won a majority, but

57:57

in Krasnoselsky District in particular,

57:59

Ilya Yashin became head of the municipal council.

58:03

He brought in his own supporters, and they have

58:06

a very clear political line there.

58:08

They say it outright: we are against

58:10

Putin, we are the Solidarnost movement,

58:13

we are fighting this government. But in this

58:15

district, we are the authorities, and you, the opposition,

58:19

are the minority. And of course, United

58:22

Russia, Sobyanin, Rakova—they simply can’t

58:23

calm down. They created a special

58:25

movement literally called “Against

58:28

Yashin,” and they stage pickets outside

58:32

the municipal office. And it’s very

58:34

interesting to watch. And it’s curious

58:36

to see how this is supposed to work: well, they

58:39

came to power, they have some position, and

58:40

the opposition is allowed in too. They’re, well, most likely

58:43

being paid, hired protesters,

58:45

or maybe not—but in any case,

58:47

obviously there are people in Krasnoselsky District

58:49

who don’t like Yashin, and

58:52

right now they’re simply barging into

58:54

the municipal office and disrupting meetings,

58:56

while taking advantage of the fact that the police

58:58

support them in an informal way. So

59:00

let’s just watch literally a few

59:03

seconds—55 seconds—of how

59:06

a normal politician who has come to power

59:09

handles this, how he deals with the opposition

59:12

in his district. Five seconds, practically.

59:24

The girl on the trip stayed behind—it’ll be different.

59:26

If there are any proposals that would

59:34

I wanted to ask you under what working format

59:37

Thank you, colleagues. With that, I declare

59:39

the meeting of the Council of Deputies closed.

59:42

These issues were considered.

59:45

Let’s start with the obvious: you can see what kind of

59:49

situation this is.

59:50

Representatives of your movement are ready

59:53

to ensure representation at

59:54

the meetings of the Council of Deputies.

59:56

I can guarantee that on all

59:58

items on the agenda, if you wish, we

1:00:00

will give you the floor in accordance with

1:00:01

common sense. That is completely acceptable.

1:00:04

Let’s speak frankly: this is how we will

1:00:11

deal with the opposition in the beautiful

1:00:13

Russia of the future. This is how every politician should act.

1:00:15

Well, look, Yashin (Ilya Yashin, Russian opposition politician) didn’t

1:00:17

die from it. It’s his job. There are some

1:00:20

people who are really quite hostile to me, and they still

1:00:22

haven’t stopped — they push their way into the meeting hall, they

1:00:26

shout, they stand there with placards against Yash-

1:00:28

in — their movement is called “Against Yashin.”

1:00:31

I sat down with them, talked to them, shook hands — and suddenly

1:00:34

the tone was completely different.

1:00:35

That is the work of a normal politician, and our country

1:00:39

will become normal when politicians and

1:00:42

officials — and Yashin, by the way, despite being an opposition figure,

1:00:45

is still a municipal official —

1:00:47

if you live in Moscow, then he works on

1:00:49

a salary paid from your taxes, and in

1:00:51

that sense, he earns

1:00:54

his salary, because even with the opposition

1:00:56

he communicates the way one ought to communicate with

1:00:58

the opposition. Our time is almost up, but there is

1:01:00

one very small topic, and you may already have

1:01:02

read about it on my blog — a

1:01:05

small but pleasant victory, a small

1:01:06

victory over idiocy. Have you seen this

1:01:08

photograph?

1:01:10

For this photograph, our activist in

1:01:12

Arkhangelsk — it’s a famous photograph from

1:01:14

the Victory Parade — was prosecuted

1:01:16

for allegedly promoting Nazi

1:01:18

symbols, and because of it he could have

1:01:23

— as you can see from the photograph — been added to the

1:01:25

list of extremists. And I organized

1:01:27

a special campaign against this idiocy because,

1:01:29

to be honest, it infuriated me too.

1:01:31

It is a well-known

1:01:32

wartime photograph from our history, and these

1:01:35

idiots — and when I say “these idiots,” I mean

1:01:38

everyone involved: the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the courts —

1:01:40

everyone was involved, and at every stage

1:01:43

of the process they said, “Well yes, since he

1:01:45

put up this photograph,”

1:01:46

even though it is in history textbooks, that means he is guilty of

1:01:48

extremism, and he must be punished, penalized, and

1:01:51

fined.” And after we

1:01:53

launched the campaign — after I told this story —

1:01:56

thousands of people took part in the action

1:01:59

against idiocy by reposting this photograph themselves as a sign

1:02:01

of protest. And today, in the

1:02:04

court of appeal, he was acquitted.

1:02:05

Obviously under our pressure. I congratulate all of you

1:02:08

on this. Let’s work in such a way

1:02:10

that we achieve at least small victories

1:02:14

over the idiocy of this government, of these idiots.

1:02:18

There are many of them, and they keep pressing in on us. For now, unfortunately, we are

1:02:22

losing to them overall. But when we

1:02:25

come together, we can deal

1:02:27

these idiots and their idiocy a fairly painful

1:02:29

blow. And many thanks to everyone who watched.

1:02:31

See you next Thursday.

1:02:33

Sign up to be election observers — we’ll catch

1:02:35

the crooks red-handed. Goodbye.

1:02:38

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