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Hello everyone, it's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow.

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That means we're live in the Navalny Live studio.

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I'm Alexei Navalny, here to

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discuss the latest news with you. What's

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happening in our country that's worth paying attention to?

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You can send me questions on Twitter using

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the hashtag #Navalny2018. We have lots of

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different topics today.

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But I'll start immodestly — I'll start with myself,

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with our campaign. You probably know that

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we've begun an active autumn tour,

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traveling to the regions and holding active

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public appearances in cities. Right after this

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broadcast, I'm heading to the airport and flying to

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Novosibirsk, where tomorrow at 6:00 p.m.

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I have an event.

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And I want to say that so far these trips are going

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great. Thank you very much to everyone who

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comes to these meetings in the cities, because

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even in relatively small

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cities — Murmansk, for example, is still

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drawing thousands of people. And of course,

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what can we say about such huge

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cities as Yekaterinburg or

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Omsk?

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What's the main takeaway from this? There are two takeaways.

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First — or rather, there are two things people

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are sick of. That's the conclusion: people are really

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tired of monopoly. They're tired of

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being constantly told that

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especially in the regions, everyone is supposedly so

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pro-Putin, everyone loves United Russia so much, that

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when people finally get a chance

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to show, even just by coming to a rally, that

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“Guys, no — please notice us.

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We live here in the region, but that doesn't mean

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we're just going to keep nodding along all the time,

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pretending everything is wonderful.” No, they don't want

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to put up with monopoly. Everyone is deeply

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fed up with it. That's exactly why our

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rallies — there are lots of arguments about attendance,

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some say around 8,000, others say no, no,

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6,000. “No, are you crazy? No,”

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“6,500.” But we're not very interested

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in taking part in those arguments. The main thing

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is that nobody denies that among

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political rallies, these were the biggest

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held in these cities in

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recent years.

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And that also reflects the second thing people are sick of.

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The second thing they're tired of is that

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they're tired of this kind of election

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campaigning, including presidential campaigns,

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the way it's always done. People want

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candidates to come to them. People want

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them to speak in front of them. And I think this is

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exactly the right strategy for us:

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to behave like normal, real

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candidates, as if we were already living right now

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in the beautiful Russia of the future.

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Despite what they say — “Yes, we

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won't let him run, the campaign isn't real” — I

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try to behave like a normal

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candidate. What is a normal candidate supposed to do?

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Come to Murmansk or

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Yekaterinburg — it doesn't matter — stand there in the rain,

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answer people's questions, and

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tell them about your program, your

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ideas, your

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view of what's happening. People appreciate that

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because, well, because

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they're fed up. Eduard Chernenko writes to me — and he's absolutely right, I see —

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“All the presidential candidates have eighty headquarters between them,

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and of those,

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Navalny has all 80.”

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That's exactly how it is. Several people have already

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announced that they're running in the election — and what are they

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doing? I'm not even criticizing

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these specific candidates right now — Zyuganov,

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Yavlinsky, or Putin. I'm criticizing the

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political practice itself. It really

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— I won't even shy away from the word — infuriates me. You've

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announced your candidacy, so hold some meetings.

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What are you doing? Remember how in the last

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presidential election there was that remarkable

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candidate Mikhail Prokhorov — he

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remember how many meetings with

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voters he held during his entire

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campaign? Six.

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That's not how election

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campaigns can work. It shouldn't be that

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some strange people in Moscow

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meet for debates that are watched by

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relatively few people, because the main

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candidate isn't there. They do

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nothing at all. If they travel to the regions, they

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meet with their own activists. But these

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normal, uncensored, human

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meetings just don't happen. And one of the goals of our

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campaign is to break this

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disgusting political practice and

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force everyone else to start moving

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along with us. We very much want

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other candidates, looking at us,

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to do the same, so there can be a real comparison.

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We've held a meeting — let the others

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come to Murmansk, Yekaterinburg, or

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Omsk and hold their own meetings. Then we'll see

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what questions were asked there, and people will watch

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and be able to compare one candidate with

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another. That's why these meetings are

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so important to us, and we'll keep holding them.

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Although, of course, right now we are

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facing major resistance.

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And that resistance will grow.

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After last weekend, when we had

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such extremely successful meetings, they

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— I'll be honest — surprised even us a little. We

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expected people to come. We have excellently functioning

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headquarters, real headquarters,

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not some fake setup, and not just some

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campaign where we, you know, just hang up

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photos of random people with balloons.

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No — people are genuinely working with us. We

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knew people would come, but we were pleasantly

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surprised by how many actually showed up. I

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think that, of course, the Kremlin — I don't think it

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I’m sure the local authorities were too.

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They were simply shocked by how many people

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showed up. That is exactly why, already this

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week—whereas last week we, in

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various cities, submitted applications for rallies

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and received 27 refusals—now there are already more than 50

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refusals, and we have now seen real

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serious resistance, which

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is taking all sorts of, uh, different

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forms. But one of the, of course, most

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ugly and age-old forms is intimidating

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people—especially intimidating young

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people, and the kind of thing that is happening in schools.

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Many of you have probably already seen this

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video with a recording of a conversation

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with a 16-year-old schoolboy in Vladivostok, where

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I’ll be this weekend. They assembled a whole

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group there, a whole team: there was

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the principal, some psychologist, an inspector from

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the juvenile affairs commission, and they

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were intimidating this young man because

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he had put on a badge reading

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“Navalny 2018.” A short video—let’s

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watch it so you can simply recall what

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this is about. On what day can we

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meet?

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I don’t know what issue you wanted to

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meet with me about.

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Right now.

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Well, now we’ve met about that issue.

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With my parents, I can do Monday.

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I understood that.

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A submission to the commission for

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juvenile affairs. Tell me, please,

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why are you now just brazenly lying

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that you don’t know that you have been

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placed on the commission’s register? But no one

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told me. — So you don’t know? — I don’t know, I

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wasn’t warned; apparently they did it without me.

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They put me on it. — There is your signature stating

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that you were notified that you are

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on the register. — That’s not true. I was notified that I

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would have, today, a court hearing, roughly

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speaking—and the hearing already took place. Those materials

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that I, in the Soviet school system—well, I was

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a little Octobrist and

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a Pioneer (Soviet youth organizations), and of course we had

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things of that sort,

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dress-downs. I remember someone burned so much hay there.

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But I studied in military towns—those are

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always kind of half-village places—and

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we expelled those children from the Pioneers. But

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this now, in the 21st century, in 2017,

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when he is being threatened with prison,

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with various commissions, with ending up on such

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lists that you’ll never again be admitted to any university

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—for what? For a badge reading

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“Navalny 2018.” And in a country whose

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Constitution says that it is

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a democratic country. And these

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disgusting adults are, basically, forcibly

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going after a sixteen-year-old boy—who, by the way,

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is brave; he stands up to them. He doesn’t

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agree with them at all, and they lie and

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pressure him. But this is the disgusting

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thing that is happening. And this is one of the reasons

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why we are running our election

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campaign. Because these things disfigure

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the country; they disfigure education, among

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other things. What can these teachers possibly teach

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if they behave this way? And this

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boy came out of that room of

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punishment and spoke with his

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peers. Everyone knows that our principal

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is

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a liar,

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a dishonest person. Everyone knows that they

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work for this disgusting regime,

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and do so on their own initiative. Maybe

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you saw that in today’s post I

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published an interview with this boy, and his

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homeroom teacher told him

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that only a traitor could come to school

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wearing such a badge, and that she was obliged to report

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to the school principal about this

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“betrayal.” But how will they

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regard these teachers? How will they

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regard education, or school in general?

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But it is obvious that this breaks things overall. These

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methods are now being used in all

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regions. In Novosibirsk we are seeing

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mass mailings and even something like

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commercial ads claiming that supposedly

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special cameras will record everyone,

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your faces will be entered into files, and

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based on those files, uh, later we will

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expel you or refuse to admit you to

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certain universities. All of this is, of course, complete

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lies, but it is being spread by the authorities themselves.

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And many—well, I don’t know whether many or not many—

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some people probably do listen

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to it; at least that is their

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calculation. Well, we’ll see whether it works out

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or not. I will speak regardless of

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how many people come: if there are many people, good; if there are few,

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that too is part of my work as a candidate, and I

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will do it. In Vladivostok, they are writing that

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they will close the bridge to

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Russky Island

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so that from the campus

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of Far Eastern Federal University people cannot

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get to the meeting. When we were first

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told about this, I thought it was

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some kind of joke, but then

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confirmations started coming in; the local press is also

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saying that under the pretext of either

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a marathon or something else, the bridge will be

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closed.

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In Novosibirsk, uh, *Matilda* will be shown

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deliberately a month earlier

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than its nationwide premiere in order to

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distract some of the people from this

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rally. It is the only screening of *Matilda*.

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And in Krasnoyarsk, wonderfully enough, there

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the official refusal to authorize the rally was based on

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the claim that Navalny has no right

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to speak about a better future for Russia. That is

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almost exactly how it was worded, verbatim.

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speaks and talks about images

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of a better future, so that means a refusal

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to let you hold this rally, one way or

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another

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Right now I'm flying to Novosibirsk, then I

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will be in Vladivostok, in Khabarovsk, everywhere

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in all three of these cities at 6 p.m.

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Please come to these meetings

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and bring your friends and acquaintances with you

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Support me or don't support me, if there are

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people you know who criticize me and

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want to ask me

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tough questions, bring them along, excellent

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I'm ready for those questions; again, that's also

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part of a candidate's job, and I will do it

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Please help me notify as

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many people as possible that these

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meetings are taking place; it's very important. My

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screen is just exploding with messages, where

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our editor is writing to me marked urgent

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saying that Nikolai Lyaskin is not being released

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from the police station right now, even though a very

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and they're conducting a personal search, that

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is, the victim here, our Nikolai Lyaskin—he

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was hit on the head with a pipe, and now, as I

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understand it, they're conducting a personal search of him and

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apparently taking away his phone and things like that

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but we'll talk about Lyaskin in quite

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some detail today. We'll see, maybe

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some more news will come in

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smb From Russia writes to us

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Just a fact: our teachers at the

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staff meeting before September 1 (the start of the school year in Russia)

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were forbidden to criticize, to criticize

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the state's education policy. And

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why were they forbidden? Why did anyone even

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think of such an idea? Because

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any normal teacher is going to criticize

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the education policy

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of the state right now, because even a normal

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teacher, even if they have a more or less

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decent salary—though all of them have

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tiny salaries—what do they do? Do they teach

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someone? They spend all day filling out

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some paperwork. Teachers are groaning all across the

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country because they simply can't keep

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endlessly dealing with this kind of

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reporting instead of, uh, teaching

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children. In Ufa, lawlessly, they are not

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approving a rally, writes Viktor R.

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What are we going to do?

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What do you mean—it's not only in Ufa; in most

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cities, they arbitrarily refuse to approve

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rallies. You probably saw that in the city of

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St. Petersburg it was stated outright

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that they would not approve it because Navalny

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is a provocateur and his supporters are provocateurs

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but we will hold them, and they will all

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have to approve them—we will demand

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approval, because it's a simple matter

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either I have the right to meet with

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people, or people have the right

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to hear candidates out, or we give up

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that right. As long as we have some

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approved events, and we want

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to hold approved events, all

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our rallies are held and go very

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well, very organized, with a high

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level of public order. But if

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they keep not agreeing—if they keep

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refusing us—that means, yes, am I supposed to

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stop the election campaign?

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No, I will not stop it. And Evgeny

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Nilchenko asks: has Lyaskin been released

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from the police station? No, he still hasn't been released. Ksenia

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Sobchak

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And I'm flooded with questions, and now I

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will talk about it. A lot of people are asking me

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how I feel about Sobchak

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planning to put forward her candidacy for

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president, whether I've heard about it, whether I like

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it or not, whether I will

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quarrel with Ksenia Sobchak, given that

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well, I'm on good terms with her

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I really am on good

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terms with her—well, in a sense

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friendly, companionable terms—and with her husband

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I'm friends

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And now I'll answer all these questions

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Let's launch a poll right away that

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will run on Twitter and on

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VK, and it will read as follows

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Does your

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political interests, uh, align with candidate Ksenia

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Sobchak? While we discuss this,

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please vote. And how do I feel about it?

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I feel extremely negative about it, and it will be

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easy—very easy—for me to criticize Ksenia Sobchak

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in completely plain terms, despite the fact

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that I am with her on

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good terms, because

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I still don't understand—it seems she has made

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the decision not even to put forward her

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candidacy, but to take part in this

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rather disgusting Kremlin game

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called, let's

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drag into the election some kind of

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liberal laughingstock in order to

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distract attention—and that's the only way

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to describe it. It's not that Ksenia Sobchak

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has decided to do something there. I mean, she

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has not yet announced that she is taking part

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but judging by the way she is more than

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posturing, and neither saying yes nor no, back and

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forth, she does in fact want to run

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and I—well, I will be very upset and

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disappointed by Ksenia's behavior if she

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takes part in all of this. And

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that's because the Kremlin's plan here is very

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simple: they

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well, I don't know, with some kind of

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money, opportunities, or something else

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access to television, want to

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tempt her, draw her in. Her campaign will probably

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be financed by some oligarchs

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or by the Presidential Administration. For what purpose?

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Because they need, as I already said on

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this program on air, a caricatured

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a liberal candidate, especially in circumstances

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where, if they decide they don’t want to let me run

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in the election, they’ll say, “Guys, sure, we’re not going to let

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Navalny run — he’s an extremist,”

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a criminal. But you wanted

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someone to represent that position — well, here’s Ksenia

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Sobchak. Look, she says exactly

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what the opposition wants — look

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how great she is. She, uh,

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supports paid education, paid

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healthcare, paid parking,

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she supports raising the retirement age.

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There you go — that’s your candidate, there she is,

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a wonderful opposition figure. After all, the whole opposition

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wants exactly that. In other words, Sobchak, being

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a very vivid, recognizable,

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attractive person, but holding

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rather brutal views on politics

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and economics — I mean, she has this sort of

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you know, early-1990s democrat

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mindset, the kind that recoils at the word “social.” That’s

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a sincere position. That is, she won’t

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even lie, she won’t

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pretend, and she won’t say

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terrible things on purpose

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just to get fewer votes — she’ll

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try to get more, and she’ll say

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it outright: yes, we need to raise

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the retirement age, that’s great.

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Uh, she’ll repeat all those monstrous

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things of hers about how all these people in

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Russia are so poor — why? Well, because

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they’re drunks, they don’t want to work, and all

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the rest of those disgusting

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clichés that were handed down to us

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from the 1990s, about how

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everything should be paid for, from

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parking to healthcare, and, uh, plus

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all of that — let’s put it all against the backdrop of

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beautiful photos of yacht vacations,

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entertainment, *Dom-2* (a Russian reality TV show), *Blond in Chocolate* (a Russian reality show),

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and everything else, uh.

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That, as I understand it, is

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the Kremlin’s plan: to put forward

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a caricature of a liberal with brutal

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positions, who is supposed to embody

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the opposition, so to speak, and who

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will naturally get very few votes

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and once again drive the public into a rage

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simply by her political stance, and for

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some fairly long

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period will once again make the word “opposition”

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a dirty word, because, well, there it is —

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look, look at this face

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of the opposition. There she is, sailing around on a yacht, and

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she thinks we all need to

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raise the retirement age, and that in Russia

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there are so many poor people because they work poorly

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or don’t work hard enough, uh.

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Why does Sobchak herself need this, you ask me?

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Well, once again, I hope Ksenia

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will probably see this filler clip, or

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maybe she’s watching it now. Ksenia, I hope you

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won’t take part in all this, and that

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everything I’m saying now won’t lead to you later coming to me

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and saying, “Navalny, why did you

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criticize me so unfairly? You thought badly

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of me. I would never have gotten involved

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in that.” If that turns out to be the case, I will, uh,

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offer you my sincere apologies, and I hope that

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won’t happen. But in general, why would

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Sobchak do it? That’s more or less clear. We have to

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recognize, after all, that she is not a politician.

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She

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works — and I say this without any irony — but

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in a somewhat different field: she’s in

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show business. So, uh, for her, taking part in

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an election campaign, with any

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result, even if everyone calls her

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a puppet, a spoiler, whatever — that’s

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still a plus for her show-business career, because

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it gets you more likes, more

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Instagram followers, and you get paid

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higher fees for hosting weddings. It’s one thing when you

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show up to host the wedding of some

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businessman or some crooked official and

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get €35,000 for emceeing it, but

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it’s another thing when the groom’s father says, “And

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now our wedding is being hosted by the future

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president of Russia, Ksenia Sobchak,” and the whole

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wedding will be accompanied by those

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great jokes. Well, of course that

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doubles the price tag. So

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it’s roughly clear why this might appeal to

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Ksyusha, but I very much hope she

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won’t play this rather

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unpleasant game. Austin Asphalt writes to me:

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“In any case, she has the right

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to run. What’s wrong with that? If she’s

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a bad candidate, people just won’t vote for her, and

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that’s that.” Of course, yes — she’s the same kind of person as

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I am, with the same constitutional rights.

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So yes, she has the right to run.

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The other issue is that we have to look at

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these things as a whole. We understand that if

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you want to run, well then

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run: set up campaign offices, make

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political statements. You can’t just

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do it like that, you know — bang, launch it, and

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suddenly collect 300,000 signatures. Right now

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we’re at the point where we have around eighty

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headquarters, and a thousand people come to meet me,

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but we worked for nine months. We

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raised money, we opened these offices, I

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met with volunteers, we carried out

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enormous, colossal, expensive

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work: raising money, holding rallies.

20:13

In other words, it’s a process. But if you just

20:16

up and announce on Instagram tomorrow, “I’m

20:20

running for president” — where are you

20:21

collecting signatures? “Oh, signatures for her

20:23

will somehow be collected.” And where is your campaign office? “Oh, the office will somehow

20:26

organize itself.” Everything will get done because

20:28

the presidential administration will do it for you.

20:30

We understand very well how

20:33

all this works. It’s impossible to collect

20:35

300,000 signatures if you don’t already have

20:38

the fundraising infrastructure, no matter how many

20:40

fairy tales they tell us about how it

20:42

will supposedly collect money through some kind of commercial

20:43

enterprises. Well, we

20:45

understand that this is deception, so of course she

20:48

has the right to take part in the elections, but

20:51

she does not have the right to deceive us

20:54

about who really is

20:56

the real interested party and the real

20:59

organizer of such an election

21:01

campaign. Alexander Mikheev, well, it’s obvious

21:04

that they decided to show that we

21:05

are giving up our position, to distract attention. Well,

21:06

of course, it’s right there on the surface. In

21:09

fact, I think that not only

21:13

Ksenia... Alexei, turn the cup around,

21:16

otherwise it reads “USA, hi.” No, it says

21:17

“Hi, Ksyusha,” not “USA, hi.”

21:20

I think that not only Ksenia will not be

21:22

brought in — there are many different

21:24

candidates being considered. Well, of course, from

21:26

the Kremlin’s point of view, Ksyusha could probably

21:28

be one of the quite successful candidates

21:32

for these caricature liberals, because

21:33

once again, she sincerely believes in all

21:36

these rather monstrous things that she

21:39

says. “Alexei, why are you being so harsh?”

21:41

a girl asks me. I’m not

21:44

being harsh. As a candidate should, I

21:47

have to say everything plainly. Once

21:49

again, if she were sitting here, I would have

21:51

said it all to her directly, to her face, and

21:54

in fact, we even met not so

21:55

long ago. I said roughly the same thing, directly

21:57

and to her face. That’s my position.

22:00

We’re not playing games here. This is not

22:03

some intrigue about who should

22:05

host some show or not

22:07

host it. This is politics. It’s a question of

22:11

how the country will develop, how

22:13

the opposition will develop, what the

22:15

situation in our country will be, possibly for years

22:17

to come. So I simply don’t think

22:19

there’s any room for being delicate here, so I

22:21

once again, I have a very good attitude toward her.

22:23

I respect her as a person who

22:25

really earns her living through hard

22:28

work. She is actually a very

22:29

hardworking and capable person, but

22:31

taking part in politics in this format is

22:34

of course spoiler activity, deception, and participation

22:36

on the same side as the crooks.

22:40

And fgnius asks: “Is Ksyusha even

22:44

this flamboyant candidate, a child from a well-connected

22:45

family, living in a bubble, living however she wants, and

22:48

then sitting there like a princess, saying everyone else is

22:50

trash?” Well, she really is from a

22:52

well-connected family, and again she will be presented as

22:55

a privileged rich kid, but she is, as I already

22:58

said, quite a hardworking

23:00

person, and she earns her money, well,

23:02

not at all just because she comes from

23:05

some family and receives it. Well, and

23:07

let her keep earning it there — I would like

23:09

her to stay there rather than

23:10

make money from election campaigns.

23:14

Alexander Mikheev asks me whether

23:16

teachers who stuff ballot boxes

23:18

at every election are traitors. Well, of course they

23:20

are. They have betrayed us. They are not only traitors, they

23:21

are criminals as well, and traitors, because

23:23

they are working against the country’s future.

23:26

Finally — I’ve been waiting for this message. In huge

23:29

letters: “Kolya has been released,” wrote Zhdanov.

23:32

Zhdanov is the head of the legal department

23:34

of FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation). He writes that Lyaskin has been released, and

23:37

we’ll discuss Lyaskin in a moment. For now, please

23:39

write to me, because I can’t see from here

23:41

what our voting results are

23:43

regarding Ksyusha: does candidate Sobchak represent

23:45

your interests or not?

23:49

While people are writing to me, I’ll read another one. Oleg

23:51

Bourbon says: “A test for Ksenia Sobchak of whether she has

23:54

any common sense.”

23:56

Well yes, it is a test, and we can see that common

23:59

sense is clearly there, because she still hasn’t

24:01

thrown herself into it headfirst, as if into deep water. As

24:03

it seems to me, the decision is about 80% made

24:06

that she will take part, but she

24:08

has not yet announced it, because she

24:10

is, as I understand it, meeting with various people,

24:12

trying to feel out all these

24:14

different options, and well, it may

24:18

turn out that someone will say, “Oh, it

24:20

was all a joke,” or some kind of TV project.

24:23

“What should I do?” asks Yesenia Meldoniyu.

24:27

“If you constantly run into prejudiced

24:29

treatment among

24:31

teachers because of your political

24:32

views, even though there is no crime involved?”

24:34

Political views cannot, in themselves,

24:36

constitute any crime at all.

24:37

But I’m curious — where do you study if

24:41

you are constantly facing prejudiced

24:42

treatment from teachers because of

24:44

your political views? A normal person

24:45

will either agree with your

24:48

political views, or simply

24:49

leave you alone and not discuss them

24:51

with you. That’s probably an important

24:56

point: I’m certainly not suggesting that everyone

24:58

drop out of their universities, vocational colleges, or

25:00

schools if you have political

25:03

conflicts with teachers. But it is the first

25:05

sign of a bad educational institution if

25:07

they try to persecute you for your

25:09

political views. So, on Twitter,

25:11

14% of people say that Ksenia Sobchak

25:16

represents their political views, while

25:18

86% say she does not. On VKontakte,

25:22

Ksenia Sobchak represents the interests of six

25:24

percent of our viewers, while 94

25:28

percent say no. Well, as usual,

25:30

VKontakte is more radical, Twitter less

25:32

radical, although here it’s not entirely clear

25:33

what the word “radical” even means in this context.

25:37

Putin’s visit to Yandex — did we talk about that?

25:39

No, asks Paul Schutza 34 rus. Well,

25:43

What a name—we haven't talked about that.

25:45

There was a lot of discussion today,

25:47

all sorts of jokes connected with what kind of

25:49

security measures Yandex took there.

25:52

They wouldn't let anyone go to the bathroom alone,

25:54

and one person wasn't let in at all. Well, actually,

25:56

nothing all that

25:57

extraordinary happened at Yandex.

25:59

The day after tomorrow is, I think, its twentieth anniversary.

26:01

It's a hugely important event for the company, and that's why

26:04

well, they invited Putin. Most likely,

26:06

he probably even wanted to come himself—he's

26:08

currently trying to be friendly with high

26:10

technology and to make it look like

26:11

it's friendly with him. It's clear that security measures in

26:14

Russia are, in principle,

26:16

a little ridiculous when you look at them. I

26:18

understand that at Yandex they simply

26:20

dismantled the bike parking. Well, it's not hard

26:24

to imagine why—they could have removed it,

26:26

and they did remove it, but overall, well,

26:28

it was right that Putin went there.

26:30

Yandex did the right thing by inviting him.

26:32

After all, it's a giant company that we

26:34

are all proud of, and it's right that the head

26:38

of state—even if he's as unpleasant a

26:41

man as Putin—still came to the

26:43

largest internet company. I mean, well,

26:45

it seems petty to me to pick at them

26:47

over the fact that they invited him

26:50

or that they didn't do something to him there,

26:52

didn't hit him over the head with a computer. Well,

26:55

probably

26:57

there's no need to do that, Darya.

27:01

Starik... Starikashkina says: Alexei,

27:03

your campaign is changing the political

27:04

culture of Russian society. That is

27:06

our indirect goal. Of course,

27:08

we are fighting for power, but we want all

27:11

candidates to run proper election

27:13

campaigns, so that there is a different political

27:15

process, so that a candidate who does not

27:18

do the same things we do, in

27:20

particular, who does not meet outdoors

27:22

with city residents in any weather,

27:25

would not be considered a candidate at all.

27:27

That is very important to us. Alexei, my

27:31

opinion remains the same: if Navalny is not on the ballot,

27:33

my family and I will not

27:34

go to the polls. Let VV (Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin) play his games.

27:36

Alexei, you're thinking absolutely correctly. If

27:40

they don't let us into the election—well, it's not about

27:42

me, but about independent candidates in

27:44

general—uh, then what kind of election is that? Well, to

27:47

go vote in that case is unnecessary.

27:49

The attack on Nikolai Lyaskin. Let's

27:52

discuss it—this is an extremely pressing topic.

27:56

Of course, it concerns—this has long since

27:59

gone beyond just our

28:02

election campaign and our headquarters. It

28:05

concerns, in general,

28:07

the situation in the country, because at first

28:09

it looked monstrous: the head of our

28:13

headquarters in Moscow—officially called the coordinator—

28:15

went out to help us carry leaflets, and he

28:18

was hit on the head with an iron pipe. Uh,

28:20

it looked monstrous. It was clear that

28:23

he had been set up there. But what happened

28:25

afterward

28:26

looks even more monstrous.

28:29

So, what does the police version look like? Uh,

28:33

It was announced repeatedly and shown on

28:36

television. But, for example, federal

28:38

channels like NTV didn't talk about the fact that

28:40

this was clearly an attack on Lyaskin. Instead,

28:42

they all started pushing this wild

28:45

story, and I think that is where

28:47

the whole scheme lies.

28:49

So what is the police of the

28:52

Russian Federation trying to prove to us?

28:53

That some man—by the way, let's

28:56

watch a short clip of his

28:59

police interrogation, which was broadcast on

29:02

television even before Lyaskin

29:04

took part in the identification lineup. That's a separate

29:06

absurd point: Lyaskin is about to

29:08

identify the attacker, but millions of

29:10

people have already seen him on TV.

29:12

Let's watch a short clip.

29:19

For two people, for one he didn't show

29:22

the photographs,

29:25

including one of himself,

29:27

and promised to go to the police and file reports, as it were.

29:30

Basically,

29:32

he offered 150,000 rubles (about $2,500 at the time), and that's not a small amount of money,

29:35

especially since

29:36

he said he wouldn't file a report.

29:39

That was what struck me.

29:43

Now tell me, please: does he look like

29:46

a Navalny volunteer, or like

29:48

someone you could trust the moment

29:50

you first saw him? But the police version

29:52

sounds exactly like this: that this

29:54

man here,

29:56

who has, I think, three prior convictions and

29:59

has a certificate stating that he has

30:02

a mental disorder and is registered with a

30:04

neuropsychiatric clinic, came from Leningrad

30:06

Region to Moscow. In Leningrad Region

30:09

he heard that he could earn some extra money

30:12

by becoming a Navalny volunteer, so he came to

30:14

Moscow,

30:15

learned that there was a certain Nikolai Lyaskin—he

30:19

called him Alexei Lyaskin in this

30:21

video—approached him at headquarters and said,

30:25

'Listen, Lyaskin, I'm this kind of

30:27

guy from Leningrad Region. Look,

30:29

I've come here, I need to make some extra

30:31

money.' And Lyaskin tells him,

30:34

'You've come to the right place. Here's

30:37

a photo of me, and here are photos of

30:40

another person. Please stage

30:43

an attack on us by hitting us on the head, and

30:45

I'll pay you 150,000 rubles (about $2,500 at the time) for it.'

30:48

'Okay, deal.' Well, he gave him about 10

30:52

thousand rubles (about $170 at the time) up front, and then this happened. After that

30:55

he hits Lyaskin on the head

30:58

and sends him a text message on his phone.

31:01

with the word "Done"

31:04

and they want people to believe it, they

31:08

want us to believe it, and they

31:10

A huge number of people should not be underestimated here

31:12

— that’s how television works.

31:14

Because people don’t know the context.

31:15

They don’t understand anything; you just show them

31:18

a report on NTV (a Russian state-aligned TV channel) saying, “Wow,”

31:20

“there’s been an exposé — it turns out a certain

31:23

Lyaskin

31:24

ordered an attack on himself.” People

31:27

watch that and say, “Well, that explains what our

31:28

opposition is like. Right, that’s how they operate.”

31:30

“Good, great, the police solved the whole thing.”

31:32

And of course this second part of this

31:36

farcical spectacle with

31:38

this man’s “shocking confessions”

31:40

of course shows that there was

31:43

a plan behind it from the very beginning, and that

31:47

unfortunately points directly to the fact that

31:49

this is not just some kind of provocation at the level of

31:51

I don’t know, the Nashi movement (a pro-Kremlin youth movement) or

31:53

just some random lunatics. This is not

31:55

some police initiative — it is specifically

31:58

a provocation organized

32:00

by the Presidential Administration, because

32:01

from the start the idea was to bring in the media,

32:04

to find some person,

32:07

send him to the campaign headquarters so he could speak with

32:10

Lyaskin, after which Lyaskin would be struck on the

32:12

head, and the next day they would claim that

32:15

the attack on him had been staged, and

32:18

basically there are two possibilities:

32:20

either one of their people hit Lyaskin on the

32:23

head and they’re now covering for him by simply

32:25

grabbing some

32:27

guy and forcing him to say something,

32:29

or else they sent him there from the start. I think

32:31

that’s what happened.

32:33

I think the next stage of events will be

32:36

as follows: right now they are using

32:37

this for a media offensive, in order

32:40

to

32:41

simply discredit

32:43

Lyaskin and the whole campaign, and they’ll keep dragging

32:45

his name through the mud — they already are, with various, uh,

32:47

Kremlin media outlets, political scientists,

32:51

and analysts explaining how these

32:53

opposition figures, you know, attack

32:55

themselves. Then, under that cover, they’ll

32:58

organize other attacks and

32:59

say, “Well, obviously, this attack

33:01

was staged — they attack themselves,”

33:03

that’s what they do.

33:04

Every time someone there — God forbid —

33:06

gets hit on the head or

33:07

someone gets pelted with eggs, they’ll say, “Well,

33:09

obviously. That’s how they get publicity.” The situation

33:11

will supposedly have “shown” that they pay money

33:13

to have eggs thrown at them, for

33:16

having brilliant green antiseptic splashed in their eyes, or

33:18

even acid — that they pay for all of it themselves. And

33:21

that’s what they’ll use afterward. Then

33:22

this man — they don’t

33:25

want him to end up in court, because

33:27

in court he’d be asked questions like: where did you

33:29

talk to him?

33:30

Where exactly? And if it was in some café,

33:34

there must be surveillance footage left.

33:36

And how did he give you 10,000 rubles? Where is that

33:40

10,000 rubles? Well, judging by

33:42

the way the man spoke, saying he came

33:44

to work at Alexei Lyaskin’s headquarters, he couldn’t

33:46

possibly answer — he won’t be able to

33:47

answer those questions. So my assumption is that they’ll

33:50

now send him for

33:53

evaluation — he was registered at a psychoneurological dispensary (a state mental health clinic), after all.

33:55

They’ll send him for a psychological

33:57

and psychiatric evaluation at

33:58

the Serbsky Institute (Russia’s main state forensic psychiatry center) for, uh, two

34:01

or three months, and he’ll disappear there, and then

34:04

gradually they’ll relieve him of

34:06

criminal liability, saying that, well,

34:08

Jones is insane, he cannot be held

34:09

criminally responsible, and then he’ll

34:11

go back somewhere to Leningrad Region

34:13

and be out of sight. And the whole case will gradually

34:15

fall apart, disintegrate — but during

34:19

all that time

34:22

they’ll keep going after Lyaskin, they’ll keep

34:24

telling everyone what horrible people we

34:26

are, ordering attacks on

34:27

ourselves. And, uh, this is not just a media

34:31

provocation — don’t forget, it’s a media provocation

34:33

involving a steel pipe with which

34:35

a man was struck on the head. Just consider

34:38

the kind of people we’re dealing with.

34:39

Consider what these officials are planning.

34:44

Some Kiriyenko (Sergei Kiriyenko, a senior Kremlin official) or his deputies are sitting there and

34:47

they are actually planning this

34:49

combination: “Let’s have this guy

34:51

hit that one on the head, and then they’ll say…”

34:53

There is not the slightest doubt that this was

34:56

organized by officials, because, well,

34:57

to make the police participate in

35:01

this lie, and to make the mass

35:03

media cover all of it,

35:05

to take these recordings from the police — the interrogation

35:08

recordings — put them out there, show all these

35:11

people — well, of course, uh, of course that indicates

35:15

that this was happening at a high level. And

35:18

however ridiculous all of this is, it still

35:22

will not be an obstacle

35:24

to using it in

35:26

propaganda. By the way, uh, I can see

35:29

people are asking me

35:31

about the text message. When Kolya was still in the hospital,

35:34

they had done an MRI, and that night he already

35:36

wrote to me, “Listen,” and sent me a screenshot of this

35:38

text message, saying, “Some weird crap — look,”

35:41

“I discovered that I got a text message with the word

35:44

‘Done.’ It all looks very strange.”

35:47

Well, theoretically one could assume that

35:49

the attacker mixed up the phones and sent the

35:51

text message to me, but

35:53

it looks bizarre. I told him, “You’re at the

35:56

police station — show them that text message, show it to them right away,” and

35:59

he showed it to them and handed it over that same night.

36:01

the police officers. And now, so, he is being

36:03

told that he ordered all of this, and here

36:05

is the proof that this was your order —

36:07

the fact that one of the attackers sent you a text message.

36:10

As far as I understand, as far as I’ve

36:12

spoken with Lyaskin, this person came

36:14

to the campaign office; he spoke with him once

36:16

in the presence of about 15 witnesses there at the office. Well,

36:18

anyone can come into the campaign office and

36:20

say, “Hello, I’m a volunteer. I want to

36:22

work here with you.” He appears in some

36:23

photographs; he came by several times.

36:25

After that, the office on Lesnaya Street never

36:27

spoke with him without witnesses,

36:29

as far as I understand. In general,

36:32

it’s difficult, almost impossible, to imagine, you know,

36:35

that even if someone wanted

36:38

to organize such a provocation and stage

36:39

some kind of rehearsal attack — well,

36:42

it’s unlikely that you would place that kind of trust in the first

36:45

random person, someone who looks like an alcoholic

36:47

and a repeat offender, and become so trusting

36:49

that you would ask him to carry out

36:50

an attack staged against yourselves. Nevertheless,

36:52

that is what’s happening. Vladimir Ilyin writes:

36:54

“Congratulations to Lyaskin, let’s give him likes.” And

36:56

why congratulate Lyaskin? He’s still sitting there

36:58

under a travel restriction (a pledge not to leave), that is, we’re

37:00

congratulating him because he wasn’t jailed, and

37:02

uh, after being hit on the head, the man ended up

37:05

with this hanging over him — uh, right now he’s

37:09

under some kind of restriction on leaving,

37:10

and they may even tighten it further or put him under house arrest. He

37:13

has been stuck there for three straight days without leaving

37:16

the police station, where no

37:17

investigative actions are being carried out with him; he’s

37:19

just sitting there. So it’s too early, uh,

37:21

to congratulate him. Natalya Prokopchik: “A terrible

37:24

act of meanness in Lyaskin’s case. Stay strong.”

37:25

A terrible act of meanness, uh.

37:27

Lena Oreshkina: “Shameful, brazen

37:28

behavior, absolutely. These people are

37:31

cynical scoundrels, and they should be treated

37:34

no other way.” GSRG says: “Alexei,

37:37

check all volunteers for prior

37:39

convictions and psychiatric registration.” How do you

37:42

imagine that? We currently have 160,000

37:45

volunteers, and there is no database — no legal database exists

37:48

where you can check whether you

37:50

or I have a criminal record, drug registration,

37:54

or any other official registration. It’s impossible, even

37:56

if we wanted to. Our offices

37:59

operate as election campaign

38:00

headquarters, which obviously means that

38:02

anyone can come in,

38:05

put on a T-shirt that says “Navalny 2018,”

38:09

take pictures with all the volunteers,

38:11

come up and take a picture with me, and

38:13

then go hit someone on the

38:15

head with a pipe and say, “Here’s a photo of me

38:17

with Navalny, here’s a photo of me at the campaign office, and

38:20

they’re the ones who ordered me to do all this.” Well,

38:22

that’s how our campaign is structured. We are running

38:26

a real campaign, and it is open; it

38:29

rules out the idea that we would be checking

38:31

these people. We don’t have that capability, and

38:34

we don’t have that desire either. But we understand

38:36

perfectly well that despite the fact that

38:38

99% are normal, honest, sincere people,

38:41

there is still 1% of crooks who can easily be

38:43

sent in to infiltrate us, very easily infiltrate us.

38:48

Ekaterina Vasilchenko sends thanks,

38:50

offers support, and writes: “See you tomorrow

38:52

in Novosibirsk.” Come to Novosibirsk —

38:54

tomorrow it will be

38:55

+8°C and rainy, so please come

38:58

so I’m not standing there alone. Here,

39:01

at this wonderful — what’s it called —

39:04

the city park…

39:09

the event starts...

39:11

They write an interesting thing. Returning to

39:13

teachers: you talk about teachers as

39:15

traitors, but have you considered that they could

39:17

simply be thrown out of their jobs

39:19

for refusing? You can understand them, can’t you?

39:23

So far, we still don’t know of precedents where they

39:25

were fired for this. Well, let’s

39:27

be honest about it. I mean, I am far

39:30

from the idea that we should imprison

39:31

or shoot hundreds of thousands of Russian

39:34

teachers who take part in election fraud

39:37

at every election, all the time.

39:38

But no one is literally forcing them every time.

39:42

You can leave, you can take a day off, you

39:44

can take sick leave, you can simply

39:45

say, “I don’t want to participate in this,” and

39:47

“do it without me.” But they do participate because

39:49

either they are weak-willed,

39:51

spineless, or because of time off

39:53

or because they are paid some money

39:55

for serving on election commissions now. So

39:58

I understand the difficulty of their situation, but

40:03

I refuse to sympathize with them. This is,

40:05

you know, not Stalin’s time.

40:08

And nowadays, it’s not as though they can simply be fired

40:10

for this. If you want to refuse and not take part

40:12

in falsifications, then refuse and don’t take part.

40:15

That is precisely why there are schools in Moscow where

40:17

principals say, “No, in my school

40:20

nothing like that will happen,” and it does not

40:21

happen there. And there are schools that say,

40:24

“All right, just write down what

40:26

you want us to do, and we’ll do it.” It is always a choice,

40:29

the choice of a specific individual. So,

40:33

updated results on Sobchak: on

40:34

Twitter, 12% of people say that she

40:37

represents their interests.

40:39

88% do not see her as their candidate.

40:41

On VKontakte, 6.5% of respondents say

40:46

that Sobchak represents their interests; 93%

40:48

say no.

40:51

Where are the famous 86%? They’re not writing to Nemagiya (a Russian YouTube channel).

40:56

Alexei Kreiter asks: “So what’s happening there?”

40:58

Nothing new is happening, as far as

41:00

I understand. Nemagiya,

41:02

one of Nemagiya’s participants was questioned

41:04

in Moscow; they were all intimidated there. Khovansky,

41:07

that blogger who also...

41:10

some fairly harsh videos against Tinkov

41:12

I recorded them, but was forced to take them down. Well,

41:14

that is,

41:14

people are afraid of this. We’re not scared. I can

41:18

say it plainly, and I said everything

41:20

I think about Tinkov, because first of all

41:22

I’m a lawyer; second, I’m simply used to

41:25

this; third, I’ve got a whole bunch of

41:27

lawyers sitting here who

41:29

can help me if anything happens. But a person who

41:32

just found themselves in a situation where people rush in,

41:35

saw the door open, smash it down, and then

41:37

all sorts of lawyers with folders come in and start

41:39

feeding them nonsense: “Protokon will sue you,”

41:41

“they’ll ruin you financially.” Of course people get scared, and in that

41:43

sense, unfortunately, Tinkov

41:46

has completely lost morally, and

41:49

from a PR standpoint he has completely lost in this

41:51

situation. But organizationally and legally

41:54

he has, of course, managed to silence these people

41:56

to everyone’s great regret.

41:59

Bomb threats—I wanted to say a couple of words

42:02

about what is happening, what continues

42:05

to happen: bomb threats in Russian

42:06

cities. The topic is not making it onto

42:10

the federal TV channels at all, but nevertheless it is

42:13

an absolutely massive phenomenon. On September 17,

42:15

nine cities, 48 buildings.

42:18

On September 18, 47 incidents in Moscow alone.

42:21

On September 19, 20 major cities. That is,

42:26

on September 21, today, there are 12

42:28

buildings in Moscow under bomb threat, and

42:33

the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) is already saying that the damage from these

42:36

so-called “bombings” has amounted to no

42:39

less than 1 billion rubles (about US$17 million at the time). I think it is

42:40

higher. After all, there have been hundreds of thousands of evacuees.

42:43

Just imagine how much revenue is lost by

42:46

a large shopping mall that

42:47

is evacuated for the entire day, how much revenue

42:50

transport facilities lose,

42:52

the damage has been colossal. And what

42:55

is most infuriating in this situation

42:58

—what I want to say—is: where is

43:01

our SORM system, what is it called,

43:06

the system

43:07

for operational investigative activities? That is the

43:10

very thing,

43:11

those “black boxes” installed at every

43:14

internet provider, every telephone company,

43:18

everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. Billions and billions

43:20

of Russian taxpayers’ money have been spent

43:23

on it. The Russian police

43:25

and the FSB (Russia’s security service) can listen to and record

43:28

every phone call. It is very

43:30

easy for them to do—practically elementary.

43:32

They do it without a court order; they force

43:35

providers to buy this equipment, and

43:38

so what?

43:39

And it turns out that with nothing more than

43:41

telephone terrorism, you can literally

43:43

terrorize

43:45

the entire country, inflict damage worth

43:47

billions of rubles, and nothing will happen

43:50

and it is impossible to prevent it,

43:52

impossible to find these people using some kind of

43:55

super technology, identify

43:59

their voices and isolate them. But when it comes time

44:01

to fight rallies and protests, they claim they have

44:03

super-equipment that will find

44:05

all of you, the police will decode everything and enter it

44:08

into databases. But with telephone terrorists, why

44:10

can’t you do that? That’s the question.

44:12

Why are we paying to maintain this whole system, why

44:15

are we maintaining these departments, whatever

44:18

they’re called—Department K, I think, in the Interior Ministry,

44:20

that deal with cybersecurity?

44:23

What are the enormous FSB services for? Total,

44:27

absolute incompetence. That is what

44:31

characterizes the behavior of our

44:33

special services in this situation with this telephone

44:34

terrorism, which fortunately has not yet led

44:37

to human casualties, but has caused

44:40

extremely serious, very serious damage to the

44:42

country’s economy.

44:45

Alexei asks me, Gryphon,

44:47

“Please comment on the situation with Binbank.”

44:49

I’ll comment on it now.

44:52

And this is not only about

44:55

Binbank. This is really a question about the banking

44:58

system of our country. Just like with telephone

45:00

terrorism, you see, which I was

45:02

just talking about—we spent an enormous

45:04

amount of money creating a system of

45:07

security, it has devoured the whole country. More than

45:10

a third of our budget goes to military and police spending,

45:12

and when it is supposed

45:15

to work and protect us from telephone

45:18

terrorists—zero effect. The same

45:21

situation exists with the banking system. So, the Central Bank

45:24

announced a bailout of Binbank—it is the 12th-largest

45:27

bank in the country. Quite recently they

45:29

also announced a bailout of Otkritie Bank. That means

45:32

that over the past couple of weeks

45:35

it has emerged that two of the country’s largest banks

45:39

have effectively gone bankrupt, and that they

45:42

were conducting their

45:45

business operations completely improperly.

45:46

They were running them badly,

45:49

stupidly, for many months, and

45:52

the Central Bank did not notice. And on the

45:56

Central Bank’s board of directors,

45:57

nearly half the people are involved

45:59

in so-called banking supervision,

46:02

and this is a total failure of banking supervision.

46:04

What are all these people with enormous

46:07

salaries doing? What is Elvira

46:09

Nabiullina doing, and why is she constantly

46:10

being placed on all these lists and rankings as

46:13

the best central banker in the world? Where

46:16

is this banking supervision? Your biggest

46:18

banks

46:19

are now saying, “Oh, you know,

46:22

we ran the business badly, we didn’t account for the risks,

46:24

we bought all this stuff left and

46:27

right for nothing, we shouldn’t have bailed out

46:29

smaller banks.” And then, as in the well-known joke,

46:32

“and then I went bankrupt.” And

46:34

now we need trillions without

46:37

without exaggeration, spend a trillion on

46:38

saving these, these banks and these

46:41

bankers. Here is the question I want

46:43

to put to a vote.

46:45

On VKontakte (a Russian social network) and Twitter: should

46:48

failed bankers lose their fortunes?

46:50

fortunes? This is an important thing, after all.

46:54

The Central Bank is saving the banks and saving these bankers.

46:57

We do not see them being arrested or

46:59

crying; they are billionaires and

47:01

multimillionaires, and their personal fortunes

47:03

are being preserved. And who will get all this

47:06

property? That is, how did banking supervision

47:09

look at all this? For example,

47:11

Binbank bought up all the five-star

47:13

hotels in Moscow. They were buying them left and right,

47:16

probably, generally speaking, without having

47:20

any experience managing a chain of

47:21

hotels. They were simply investing money;

47:23

they were chaotically buying up everything around them.

47:28

And now it turns out that the personal wealth

47:32

of these people will, one way or another, be preserved. So

47:34

let's vote: should these

47:36

bankers, who are now, well, rather

47:38

sadly saying, "We failed to cope with

47:41

market realities"—should these bankers

47:44

also become poor, or at least no longer

47:46

be rich people? Because because of them

47:48

clients will suffer, and we will pay for their mistakes

47:51

because it is our money that the Central Bank

47:55

will spend on the bailout, because it is with our

47:58

money that all these

48:00

banks will be nationalized, because we are the ones who will suffer from

48:03

the fact that there will be less competition in the

48:04

banking sector, and we will have to pay for all of this.

48:07

Well, shouldn't these bankers

48:09

also become, well, ordinary citizens and

48:11

go get a job somewhere, earning a salary—

48:13

I don't know, even a large one, 200,000 rubles a month (about 200,000 RUB), but

48:16

still with limits? They probably should

48:18

have their ten-room apartments taken away, their

48:20

villas, their yachts. Probably that is how this should

48:23

work: if they came to us, to the

48:26

Central Bank, to the Russian state, to us

48:28

and said, "Guys, there's a hole in the bank's balance sheet,

48:31

so

48:33

please somehow cover this hole for us."

48:36

What did Binbank do? It effectively

48:39

raised money in the pension market

48:42

from around 4 million people. They

48:45

were collecting money through their own

48:46

private pension fund, and with this

48:48

pension money they were financing for themselves

48:50

this beautiful life: we'll buy this

48:53

hotel, we'll buy that hotel, and over here

48:55

a five-star, a six-star,

48:57

a ten-star hotel—we'll buy everything.

48:59

And we will beautifully advertise on billboards and on our

49:02

websites how all the

49:04

five-star hotels belong to us.

49:06

A cool, beautiful life—that's very nice.

49:09

And all of it sparkles and glitters,

49:13

but it ended with the fact that we now have

49:16

to pay hundreds of billions of rubles for

49:19

it. I would like these bankers

49:23

to share with all of us the burden

49:27

of their failed business. That is number

49:30

one. And I would also like the people from

49:32

banking supervision who slept through

49:34

this, who were participants in all of this—

49:37

every bank files reports twice a day,

49:39

twice a day, and of course banking

49:42

supervision at the Central Bank could not have failed to know that Otkritie

49:45

had been heading toward catastrophe for months, and that Binbank

49:48

had been heading toward catastrophe for months. These people from the

49:52

Central Bank—should they

49:53

share

49:55

with us some kind of

49:58

responsibility? For example, should they be fired

49:59

from their jobs? For example, should they be stripped of

50:02

their huge salaries and bonuses? For example, they should not

50:04

be given official apartments, and

50:07

their big black cars should be taken away.

50:08

Let them ride the metro. They worked

50:10

badly, they failed, but that, unfortunately,

50:14

does not happen. Please vote.

50:15

Meanwhile, I am being told that Zhdanov, our

50:18

lawyer, reports about the alleged attacker of

50:21

Lyaskin.

50:22

His status is unclear. Forty-eight hours have passed,

50:25

but there has been no court hearing on his arrest. This is

50:27

exactly what I was saying: they do not want him

50:31

to end up in court, because in court

50:33

there should be an open hearing, right?

50:34

Journalists would probably ask him questions,

50:36

because in court he would have to

50:38

answer certain questions.

50:40

Investigators, lawyers—some kind of

50:43

outline of the charges would have to be stated. Now

50:45

it will turn out that either the hearing has already taken place and it was

50:48

some kind of secret one, or they decided before

50:50

trial to send him to a psychiatric hospital. Well, that is my

50:51

prediction. I may be wrong, but it seems to me

50:54

that after he fulfilled

50:56

his function and went on television to say

50:58

that, supposedly, Lyaskin organized

51:00

the attack on himself, he will somehow

51:02

gradually, uh, gradually disappear somewhere.

51:09

Grigory from Manhattan says: "I know one

51:12

teacher who stuffs ballots for United Russia and considers

51:14

Alexei a criminal." That is the kind of picture

51:16

that exists. Well, yes, that is probably

51:19

already a clinical case, when

51:20

a person stuffs ballots for United Russia but considers

51:23

me a criminal—that is, of course, already

51:25

close to pathology, but

51:27

this tradition of hypocrisy in our country

51:30

leads to the fact that many people

51:31

simply come to live with this idea, and it seems to me

51:34

that while they are stuffing ballots, while they are

51:36

committing a crime, they think that in this way

51:38

they are also defending the Motherland, because

51:39

you have to protect it from some kind of—these people,

51:41

they went and voted however they liked, on their own,

51:43

you cannot allow them to vote

51:46

the way they want. I have to stuff ballots, and by doing so

51:48

help—help our Motherland. Should

51:53

failed bankers lose their fortunes?

51:55

The results are the same for us and on Twitter as well.

51:59

And on VKontakte too. Yes: 90%, no: 10%. My question is

52:03

to that 10%: why do you

52:06

love these failed bankers so much? Well,

52:08

all right.

52:09

Uh, well, if they worked, if they were

52:12

businessmen, they took certain risks, they

52:14

made some deals with the Central Bank, and

52:15

it didn’t work out for them, they went bankrupt, and we

52:18

are supposed to pay their debts—and you want them to

52:21

keep their fancy yachts and fancy houses?

52:23

But no one is saying they should

52:24

end up destitute or beg for alms in the metro. Well,

52:27

surely a significant part of their personal

52:29

fortunes—it would be logical if they

52:30

lost them. But still, here 10% think

52:33

they should not lose them, while 90% think

52:37

that, after all, they should.

52:42

started NG

52:44

In the future, do you plan

52:47

to remove teachers from the process of organizing

52:50

elections? Absolutely. Teachers should not

52:53

be doing this at all. This should be handled

52:54

by commissions; it should be handled

52:56

by representatives of the candidates. In

52:59

normal elections, there will always be

53:00

candidate representatives. We should, and

53:03

we can, use school buildings for

53:06

organizing the electoral process, but

53:08

those are still polling stations. But

53:11

why force teachers to be members of

53:13

election commissions? That’s simply

53:15

idiotic. There will be no teachers there,

53:17

no doctors there, no

53:20

housing maintenance office employees (ZhEK, municipal housing services) there. This is all a matter for

53:22

the election participants, observers, people

53:26

who are interested in the political process.

53:27

They should organize all of this in such a way

53:29

that they can see the honesty and

53:32

transparency of it all and be

53:34

convinced of it.

53:35

Konstantin Molin asks: it’s strange,

53:38

why are teachers opposed to

53:40

Navalny? It’s this government that mistreats them—he comes,

53:42

pays them next to nothing, shows them no respect, drags them to

53:44

rallies and then forces them to elections.

53:46

They are not against me—that’s a big

53:48

misconception. But still,

53:50

why, for example, did this video

53:53

with audio of this kind of interrogation of a

53:58

schoolboy from Vladivostok get such

54:00

a reaction? Because, fortunately,

54:01

it is still an isolated case. But this is what happens

54:03

when, as the saying goes, if you make a fool pray to God,

54:05

he’ll smash his own forehead. That’s how some

54:07

teachers act. But the majority, by and large,

54:10

are perfectly normal in their attitude; there is

54:13

no negativity. Of course, they are often

54:16

simply more susceptible—well, more

54:19

easily influenced by state propaganda. But

54:21

it is absolutely wrong to think that

54:24

they are all directly against us and

54:27

ready to defend this regime. It’s just that many

54:29

of them do not believe that it is possible—uh, possible

54:33

for things to change for the better. Vladimir Sancho writes

54:35

that he found a Navalny 2018 badge, and wears it to

54:37

work and to the store, with stickers on his bag.

54:39

That is absolutely the right approach.

54:41

You can campaign, and you should campaign,

54:44

using whatever methods are available. It may seem to you

54:47

that no one notices a badge, but lots of people do notice it,

54:48

and it really is

54:51

a means of campaigning. So

54:54

take part in all of this.

54:57

But is it really hard to be

54:59

Nabiullina in a country where there is Zhirinovsky

55:01

with his talk of a 30-kopek ruble and so on?

55:03

You have to admit, I wouldn’t want to be

55:05

Nabiullina. Well, listen, it’s not hard to be

55:08

Nabiullina—being anyone is hard. Is it not hard to be a school

55:11

teacher? Is it not hard to be me?

55:13

Or Alexei? What, is anyone’s life easy? Come on.

55:16

Let’s feel sorry for Nabiullina because

55:17

she’s supposedly the one who suffers most. There’s

55:20

Zhirinovsky pressuring her with his 30-kopek ruble nonsense.

55:23

The head of any central bank

55:25

in any country is a person who lives under

55:28

constant stress, under pressure from

55:29

different political forces and different

55:31

schools of economic thought. Some want tight

55:34

monetary policy; others want to hand out loans

55:36

to everyone. If you don’t want that, then don’t go into

55:39

the Central Bank. So Nabiullina—

55:41

I assure you—is a very highly paid

55:44

person. She will leave the Central Bank,

55:46

and she will be a millionaire, while you will not.

55:48

You understand, she failed at banking

55:51

supervision, and she will still be a very, very rich

55:55

person who, after leaving public service,

55:58

will spend many years sitting

56:00

—unless, of course, we come to power. When

56:02

we come to power, we will not allow that—

56:03

she’ll be sitting on the boards of directors of all kinds of

56:06

companies, importantly adjusting her glasses

56:09

and pontificating, talking about what a

56:12

great banking expert she is.

56:14

Feel sorry for yourself, not for Elvira Nabiullina.

56:17

She really should not be pitied at all. I

56:20

would vote for Sobchak, Medvedev writes,

56:22

Evgeny—but only after two Navalny terms,

56:24

that is,

56:26

in 2028. Well, that would be a normal

56:30

option, but I’m not sure that I would, uh—

56:33

that is, after two terms, support

56:36

Ksyusha (diminutive of Ksenia Sobchak) in the election, because once again, her

56:39

political views are really not very

56:41

pleasant. She may be a nice, likable person, but what she

56:44

says is downright barbaric.

56:47

RBC says the Council of Europe is calling on

56:50

the Russian authorities to allow Alexei

56:52

Navalny to take part in the elections. I haven’t seen that

56:54

news yet; apparently it has just come out, and

56:56

it is probably connected with

56:58

the review, because the Council of

57:01

Europe was considering the question of how

57:04

Russia is implementing the ruling of the European

57:06

Court in the Kirovles case, and they were supposed

57:10

to review it yesterday, and today

57:12

They were supposed to say what had actually happened there.

57:14

So I don't know what happened.

57:15

But from this RBC (a Russian business media outlet) headline that was sent to me,

57:18

which people are posting here in the comments, I

57:21

can see that, well, apparently they admitted that

57:22

they admitted the obvious: that Russia is not

57:25

complying with the ruling of the European Court

57:28

of Human Rights. We have two completely separate topics.

57:31

Let me say briefly: the Ministry of

57:33

Defense—I just wanted to note this. Let's

57:35

watch this very short video about

57:37

a helicopter firing. Can we show it?

57:39

Do we have that video?

57:46

[applause]

57:57

Well, fortunately no one was killed, though there are

58:01

people who were injured. But something like this can happen

58:03

during military exercises involving thousands of people and equipment—someone pressed

58:06

the wrong button, something happened, a shot was fired.

58:08

The question is: why are you lying, you scoundrels? Here is

58:13

the statement from the Ministry of Defense.

58:16

The sequence of statements

58:17

from the Ministry of Defense was that they said

58:19

it never happened, that it was made up by some

58:22

ill-intentioned people, that only a

58:25

madman could even think of such a thing—while by then

58:27

YouTube was already full of all kinds of

58:30

videos about it. Everyone knew that as a result of

58:33

some kind of mistake, this shot had been

58:35

fired, but the Ministry of Defense

58:39

kept lying right up to the very last moment, and then

58:42

it was simply forced to admit that

58:44

it was an accidental missile launch. But

58:46

first they said that this video was from

58:48

a different time. What I want to say is simply

58:51

one thing: unfortunately, sadly,

58:53

the Russian Ministry of Defense always lies.

58:57

In any situation, it just

58:59

lies endlessly and constantly. When they lie

59:02

about military operations—well, like when

59:04

in Syria they supposedly bombed 100,000

59:07

targets, and every missile that didn't go astray

59:09

supposedly hit a rebel headquarters—

59:11

that's normal enough; all armies in the world always

59:15

lie, that's part of war. But when they

59:17

lie endlessly about events like this, that is

59:20

disgusting—very, very unpleasant.

59:22

Shame on you, Ministry of Defense. The last

59:24

topic—good Lord, I've already gone over time—is the uprising

59:26

of migrants. Still, I will say this.

59:28

Uh,

59:30

What happened just now in the southeast

59:32

of Moscow, not far from my home in Maryino,

59:35

I was simply watching it all there—

59:38

there really were migrant riots.

59:40

And it's a pretty frightening thing, because

59:43

well, I live there, and I really saw that

59:47

the Moscow mayor's office, in effect the Russian government,

59:49

has created a ghetto—a monstrous ghetto—

59:52

where a huge number of migrants

59:55

have absolutely no rights, and they

59:59

constantly push propaganda about how

1:00:01

everything is terrible in Europe, and they think that here

1:00:03

nothing like that could ever explode.

1:00:05

Let's briefly watch this video of what

1:00:07

is happening there.

1:00:33

Bye, bye.

1:00:39

I'm already out of time, so I won't

1:00:42

show more clips where you can simply hear

1:00:43

gunfire, where they are storming this

1:00:46

little booth where the security guards are sitting.

1:00:50

It all looks terrifying. Judging by

1:00:52

everything, the situation really was that

1:00:54

the shopping mall's security guards beat

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one of the migrants, almost killed him,

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and threw him out into the street somewhere

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half-dead. And as a result, they really got

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an uprising. Right now they are being arrested

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by the hundreds. But guys, you need to think about

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the fact that

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situations like this will inevitably

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keep happening, and they will happen

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more and more often. This is a direct consequence

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of the policy of the Russian Federation; it is a direct

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consequence of the visa-free regime, which on the

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one hand creates a huge

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number of migrants, and on the other hand

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creates their total lack of rights. But they

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are here in the position of slaves, and indeed

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people think they can be treated that way. I mean, what are we

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even talking about? He was beaten half to death—call a hospital?

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Really?

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Ridiculous. They threw him over the fence, and that was it.

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What are they going to do to us? There are

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hundreds of thousands of them here, and the next generation of these

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migrants, who are growing up and whom our

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children will encounter, will be people who

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will be Uzbek or Tajik by

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ethnicity, but they were born here already,

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they know no other language, and they

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will naturally believe that they have

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every right to speak up—and they will indeed have

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every right to demand things, and they

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will behave far more boldly

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than those you just saw in the

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video. And the measure I am proposing—

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a visa regime with the countries of Central Asia—

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is exactly the right one, because on the one

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hand there will be fewer migrants, and on the other

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hand we will give them certain rights: there will be

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work permits, they will have

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medical insurance, and it will be impossible

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to treat them the way they are treated

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now—as slaves.

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Therefore,

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if you support the introduction of a visa regime

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with the countries of Central Asia, support

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my candidacy, because I am the

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only candidate running in the

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election who is saying that he will introduce

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a visa regime with the countries of Central Asia, because

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all the others are cowardly keeping

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silent about it.

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In closing, I want once again to thank

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those who came to my rallies and meetings

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last weekend. This weekend I will be

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in Novosibirsk, Vladivostok, and Khabarovsk.

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Come to the meeting. After that, we will

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travel to cities across the country; we will continue

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a real election campaign. I am ready

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to answer your questions—pleasant ones,

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unpleasant ones, tough ones and not-so-tough ones. That is

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my job as a candidate, and I will do it.

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Thank you very much. See you next

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week.

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