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Good evening, everyone. In Moscow, it is exactly 8:00 p.m.

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That means we are live on air

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as usual at this time on Thursdays

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am its

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permanent host, just as exhausted

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as everyone else by quarantine, self-isolation, and

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everything that is happening — Alexei Navalny.

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Or, this week, the man who

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must answer for his vile behavior — that's how

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United Russia deputy Ernest

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Makarenko, one of the leaders of United Russia

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in New Moscow, I think in

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Novo-Peredelkino.

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And our petition on ROI has been approved. You

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know that we were collecting signatures for

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the Five Steps program. Of course you know — I

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have been driving you crazy lately

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with these signatures, with this campaign, and I will

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keep doing it because it is very important.

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And now they have been giving us the runaround,

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specifically on the government

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website, because what we were doing before

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was very important, and what we are continuing to do

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is super important, and

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collecting lots of signatures, no matter where,

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is probably even more important than these 100,000 on

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the state portal. But

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the state portal is a formal

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mechanism that the government will have to

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respond to. So please, while this program

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is on — last time the program was watched by

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100,000 people at peak live viewership — we

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have, I think, about 37,000 signatures left

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to collect. And in fact, Plan A today is this:

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at 1:30 p.m. we learned that the petition

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had been approved, and the plan is to collect these 100,000

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signatures in 24 hours. Signing is a little

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more complicated than usual there — it is not

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just an email; it is a verified

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signature. But I very much hope that we

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will collect them within a day, and of course I would like

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us to gather the remaining number while this

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broadcast is on. So please, you have

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plenty of time: you can watch me,

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listen to me for a while, and then

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just switch over and vote. If you have already

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voted, call out: Mom, Grandma, or

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son, daughter, come over here — and let

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them vote too. This is very, very

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important. Send your questions with the hashtag

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#RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter; they will be

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passed along to me, and I will try to answer them.

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Let me remind you that you can

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become friends of our channel,

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click the Sponsor button, and you can

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find the link in the description. And there, under

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the link to this petition on ROI, there is

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a link showing how to send little ducks —

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wonderful little ducks that run across

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the screen. Each duck brings us

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a few rubles in support of our

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movement, our program, and our channel.

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There are already a lot of questions, I can see.

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Right now, 32,000 people are watching our live

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broadcast — 32,000 right now, guys.

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Just one minute of your time, and we

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will make this vote happen, so

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please, do not be lazy.

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People are asking me: what do the numbers mean? What

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do the numbers on my mug mean? Well,

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go ahead and guess.

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Whoever guesses first and writes it — that person

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wins. I would even give some kind of prize, but

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it is unclear how to track who was first

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to figure out what these numbers mean — numbers that, by the way,

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should make Nikita

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Mikhalkov (a prominent Russian filmmaker and public figure) nervous.

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666, 36, and 9 — that is

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a seriously

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serious thing. Anyway, with the hashtag #Russia

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OfTheFuture, live on air,

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we will talk about the elections today, about the fact that

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there are, of course, many questions about this. I can see

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questions already about the police and everything else.

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We will discuss all of it, but I want to begin with

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ombudsman Vladimir Vorontsov, who

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is currently under arrest. He has

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not yet officially been recognized by any

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human rights organization as a political prisoner,

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but I absolutely believe that

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we should already consider him one.

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And what is happening right now is very important:

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right now, within the Interior Ministry system, where, well,

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everyone is squeezed, intimidated,

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terrified, anxious, and afraid of one

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another, informing on one another — even there,

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there is now a campaign underway in his

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support. Some people are even openly

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signing their names. There may not be many of them, but

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as you can see, there are people with covered faces,

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and there are also people with completely uncovered faces.

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Show us — there are even some

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majors there, I saw them — that is, there are

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senior officers. That is great. In the last

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program I said that it was very

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important whether we would now see, within the system,

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some kind of campaign in support of Vorontsov.

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Because who is Vorontsov? He is the leader

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of the police union, and now

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the bosses, the employer, are effectively

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jailing the leader of the police union in order

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to make life worse for ordinary cops,

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so that there will be no such person

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who would defend the ordinary cop. And if

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those ordinary cops do absolutely nothing

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to stand up for Vorontsov, that

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of course means that, well,

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our law enforcement system is completely finished.

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It is not in any

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sense a law enforcement body; it is

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a mafia-like structure. You may be sitting there now and

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saying, “Come on, enough already, it has always

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been mafia-like, we know all about it.”

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But still, it is a huge structure.

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There are all kinds of different people there. They

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may have different attitudes

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toward civilians, yes, but if they cannot even defend themselves…

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want to fight against this

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injustice and help themselves. Well, that

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means things are really bad, so

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let's keep an eye on all of this. I just

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want to state very clearly, on my own behalf,

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that I absolutely believe that, in

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the circumstances in which all this

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is happening, Vorontsov is unquestionably

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a political prisoner of the system, a person

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who has suffered for defending

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police officers and for demanding

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respect for their labor rights, first and foremost

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— their rights — and he is unquestionably being subjected

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to political repression by the leadership

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of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This

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is something people absolutely need to know. 45,000

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people

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are watching us live. I can't

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read this: hard sign, e, hard

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sign, pi, and an exclamation mark writes to me

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that yes, the inscription on the mug is a link to

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the petition on ROI. Exactly right. And our

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main link of the day, which I hope you will

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visit, is r.ru and then these

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numbers that I don't know. It's quite possible

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that they really did come up with some

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numbers to make it all look very

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much like 666. If you're thinking right now

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that I'm some kind of complete

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paranoid maniac, that's not true, because

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back when there was a mayoral

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election, the polling station where I vote

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really was, through some kind of

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manipulation, assigned the number

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1488 to it, and before the election they trolled me, saying

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look, nationalist Navalny, and even his

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polling station is 1488. So that's the kind of

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funny

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thing that happened with our number. Go

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to ROI and vote. 45,000 people are

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watching us live. I'm really

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tempted to say that until you

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vote, until we reach 100,000, I

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won't end this livestream. Honestly, it

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scares me a little myself, because what if

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— I don't know — at least the part of you

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that loves these hellishly long broadcasts

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deliberately won't vote so that

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I stay live on air for two days.

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Please go and vote — it's important

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just to give a slap in the face to

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this whole government that says

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that, well, these are some kind of, you know,

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Ukrainian bots or State Department bots

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that voted, not real half a million

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people, but just who-knows-who. And now

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now there is the state ROI, and on this

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state ROI we need to quickly collect

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100,000. If we collect these 100,000 very quickly,

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then Putin, to whom they will of course

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bring it and say, 'Hey, Vladimir

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Vladimirovich, did you see? They collected it in

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a few hours,' then it means this whole

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thing is supported by millions. It's very

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important to begin with the first big

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story — the remarkable story

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of Anatoly Bykov. I spoke about it

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last time on the program, and in fairly

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great detail, but quite a lot of

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people from Krasnoyarsk wrote to me and scolded me for

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calling it the Krasnoyarsk

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Oblast, because it turns out that everyone there

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gets really worked up about it — I mean, it is of course

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a krai (territory), and in the heat of the live broadcast I

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said oblast, and apparently that terribly

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annoys all the local residents. Please forgive me

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for that. But anyway, I was sent

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a lot of interesting

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details, and the sequence of

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events is important, because even if

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we

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set aside for the moment the Interior Ministry staff and all

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the federal media calling him a contract killer and so

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on, this is actually a story about

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how there are local guys with a complicated

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history, and now Moscow guys

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who understand that the locals will beat their

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United Russia candidates have teamed up

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for the election campaign, and we

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will talk later today in more detail

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about innovations in electoral

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legislation. This is exactly what they are

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moving toward. Bykov is being kept off the ballot because

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his term expired — or rather, let me put it correctly now,

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so that the whole

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sequence is clear: in April, he

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— this Anatoly Bykov — already had

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a suspended sentence, and his

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disqualification period during which he was

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barred from participating in elections was ending, and

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already, as part of preparations to

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keep him out of the election — and most importantly to

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keep his party, which he

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controls in Krasnoyarsk Krai, out of the election — and there

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he controls the party holding the license

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for Patriots of Russia. Well, you know how the

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party system works in Russia: basically, you

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can, in principle, bring money to Moscow

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and buy yourself a branch of some party

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— left-wing, right-wing, liberal — and United Russia too.

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You can buy United Russia; buying

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United Russia is harder, but if you bring enough money

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and praise their leader, then United

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Russia will be sold to you. So Bykov,

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by some means — we won't get into exactly which

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ones — controls part of Patriots

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of Russia and really is beating United Russia there.

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And so his term, within the framework of which

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he was prohibited from

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participating in elections, is ending, and they

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started in advance churning out material about him

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— this is what journalists from Krasnoyarsk

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wrote to me about — special commissioned

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reports, preparing the local public for the idea

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that Bykov is already

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someone who must not be allowed into the election at all,

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some kind of contract killing — and now, here,

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let's take a look: back in February of this year

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That year, NTV aired a report. I’ll stay in the corner

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so we don’t get banned, but this is

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actually very simple. It’s important, important to understand the whole

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sequence of how they prepared all this.

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That’s all. 44 seconds. NTV against Bykov. Three months

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ago, the lives of three entrepreneurs

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took a shocking turn: new owners

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suddenly appeared for their land. How

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could this happen in 2020, decades

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after the 1990s? It became clear

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after the raiders’ confession: “We’re from

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Bykov, from Bykov, from Bykov. Don’t

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go anywhere, guys,” they say. “It’ll be worse

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for you. We have power. We have

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Petrovich. Anatoly Petrovich Bykov. I think

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there’s only one like him in the region.” Negotiations, according to

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the businessmen, were conducted by one of

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the aides of the influential businessman

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Alexei Talyu. Incidentally, he was recently

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detained for driving a car while

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under the influence of drugs.

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Anatoly Bykov, whose surname

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the raiders are using as cover, is indeed a figure

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well known far beyond

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Krasnoyarsk: the former head of an aluminum

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plant, a philanthropist, and, as they say, a very

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influential

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businessman. So, until just recently, it seemed

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that this Bykov—well, no one really had

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anything against him. He existed quite

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legally. He was barred from the elections

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after a law was passed under which

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people convicted of serious offenses, even with suspended

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sentences, cannot run for office. But he

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continued to exist quite legally, was

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a completely normal politician, he had

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a local party branch, and basically in

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Krasnoyarsk everyone understood that he was

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popular, and some people around him were

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popular too. He was almost beating United Russia, but

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until recently, basically,

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he hadn’t said anything against the authorities. And now

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let’s look at how Bykov’s rhetoric changed,

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and after that, essentially, he was handed

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what appears to have been a political

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sentence: in order to keep you

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out of the elections, we’ll also put you in jail. And

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for 28 seconds, here’s what Bykov has recently

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been saying about Putin: “I get the feeling

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that our president doesn’t live in Russia. He

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lives on another planet. I would even

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recommend that our president, instead of

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the occasional little fishing trip and vacation with our fellow countryman,

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Defense Minister Shoigu, travel through

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Siberian villages, settlements, and districts—just

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take a little tour. If they’re afraid to do that, I’m

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ready to travel alongside them and show them

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what our Russia really looks like today,”

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the modern one.

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And naturally, this simply could not be

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accepted by the Kremlin and the local United Russia officials

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because Bykov, whatever you may think of him,

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whatever peculiarities his biography may have,

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is saying literally the same thing

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that roughly every other

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Russian man, especially in Siberia, says. He

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is saying: “What, have you people in Moscow

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completely lost touch? Go drive around and

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see what our roads are like.” That’s exactly

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what he’s saying, word for word. But he’s not

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just some random guy saying it—he’s running

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for office. He has money, that’s a fact, he’s

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a fairly wealthy man, he has

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a party branch, and now he could

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crush United Russia. So they began

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carrying out a special operation. In fact,

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in its details it’s actually very

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funny, because it shows what hellish

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prostitution

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our federal TV channels are engaged in. And to an even

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greater, even more disgusting

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degree of prostitution than even official

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officials. There is this particular

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journalist named Pavel Brykin. I had never even

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heard of his existence. Again,

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Krasnoyarsk journalists sent me

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the story. He’s an incredible guy. He has

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a special trick. First of all, he

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is always traveling around with some cops

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and he’s basically what you’d call—I don’t

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really like the term—but what you’d call

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an obvious stooge journalist.

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A journalist, meaning he works for

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equally corrupt law enforcement officers

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who are either carrying out a political

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order or some kind of paid

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job. And he has a special trick: he

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gets hit by a car. He did it in Krasnoyarsk,

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and in Vladivostok too.

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Can you imagine? This keeps happening to

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the journalist: some people

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he’s making reports about

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start running him over with a car, he falls

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somewhere, and then there he is, lying on the ground

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afterward, giving an interview about how terrible

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it all was. Let’s watch such an episode in

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Krasnoyarsk; there was a similar one in Vladivostok.

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A traffic accident has just occurred in Krasnoyarsk

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in the courtyard of a building on

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Chernyshevsky Street, I think.

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75A. This is where the closest aide to

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Anatoly Petrovich Bykov lives.

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Alexei got out of the car, got into his

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Mercedes, noticed our film crew,

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which happened to be in his way, and

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despite

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that, sharply pressed the gas pedal and

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ran over my right

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leg. You understand—he’s lying there, dying, but

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dying and still not giving up.

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With weakening hands, he holds the microphone and says, “You

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know, I got run over,” and this kind of thing

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has now happened to him for the second time. Well, it’s

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his signature trick: he sees, you know,

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like soccer players—someone nudges him and he immediately

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drops, lies there, and screams, “My God, it hurts!”

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And there’s another wonderful

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reporter like that. Here’s what he says:

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the person who at that moment was behind

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the wheel of the car. 31 seconds. Alexei Talk

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Listen, I walk up and ask, “What happened?” He

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pulls out, snatches the microphone, and says, “I’m

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a journalist with Russia 24. I’ll have you jailed. You’re

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obstructing journalistic activity,”

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and then asks the question: “Why are you taking money

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from crime boss Anatoly

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Bykov?”

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That was the whole situation — an absolute

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provocation, with enormous sums of money spent on it.

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NTV immediately shows up, literally

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within 10 minutes. They don’t hide the fact that they

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flew in from Moscow, that they’ll stay here

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until they’ve filmed

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an interview with Anatoly Petrovich, until they’ve

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shot their reports there

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— provocative ones. But the most interesting thing in

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all of this is the sheer

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monumental about-face by the entire system. Yes, I

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don’t doubt for a second that later clips from

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this program will be shown on repeat, saying that

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Navalny is defending crime boss

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Bykov. But let’s look

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at how the current regional governor,

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a man named Uss, a United Russia member, and very much

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a supporter of the authorities, quite recently

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spoke about Anatoly

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Bykov himself: “I’ve known Anatoly Petrovich

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for a long time, and to me he is not only a politician, not

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only a regional legislator, but also, as a person,

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a highly extraordinary and

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talented man — talented in everything, starting

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with the way he organizes the work

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of people in his district and ending with his ability

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to lay out a proper feast or organize a

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magnificent tournament. I don’t know of a single

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undertaking that Bykov has failed to pull off, failed to

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carry out at the finest, the very

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best level. But in the region he is known,

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naturally, above all for his

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social initiatives. It is hard to find among

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the deputies another person who has

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done so much both to support

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disadvantaged children and to develop sports

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and to support veterans, in concrete,

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targeted ways, or through large-scale

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events. Therefore, he is a Figure, he is

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a figure with a capital F, and one of the

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key pillars of our mighty

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region.” The best man on Earth, a pillar,

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a cornerstone — the whole region rests on him. And

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those social programs — what can you say? Every

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deputy knows him; they adore and love him. All of

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United Russia was crazy about Anatoly Bykov, but

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then suddenly something happened

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— it looks like he might beat United

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Russia, and that was it. Moscow said, “You know,

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it’s time for you to stop loving Anatoly Bykov,” and they

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stopped. Now, I’m not claiming that

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I know how things are arranged in Krasnoyarsk

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or how it all happened there, or that I understand the true

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picture surrounding Anatoly

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Bykov himself. I don’t know — I admit that.

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I admit it completely,

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honestly. But it’s so disgusting to watch how you

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were all practically fawning over him there, because

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most likely he was giving you

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money too. And now, when he started speaking out

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against this government, and you understand that he

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can beat you on anti-government slogans, he

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has to be crushed: bring in a bunch of hired

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journalists and simply wage, across the whole country,

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a propaganda campaign against him with

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these so-called journalists. Why am I

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dwelling on this? Because there’s this whole line about how

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all Krasnoyarsk journalists are supposedly

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bought and corrupt. Well, for the local ones

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it’s harder to switch sides just

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like that. I mean, you were just

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praising Bykov, you were just on

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normal terms with him there. People — you

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know people vote for him — you can’t

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just, the very next day,

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So maybe Krasnoyarsk journalists haven’t

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reached that degree, that level

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of spinal flexibility that

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people — excuse me, I’m getting worked up —

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their colleagues in

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Moscow have. They can’t do it that quickly, and

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that’s why Moscow is pushing the line that

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everyone there is completely corrupt. And one

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of the main drivers of this

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anti-Bykov theme goes on air and

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tells them directly, well,

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“you know, yes, journalists from Moscow came

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and, amazingly enough, really filmed

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all the investigative actions, but

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that’s simply because we come from Moscow,

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we’re such honest journalists, while all the locals are

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of course corrupt. Let’s listen — 21 seconds.”

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“Local journalists curse us and

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insult us, writing online, ‘Why did these

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bought-off Moscow journalists come here

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and get permission?’ I’ll explain: because you

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local journalists are not trusted, because

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for some reason you all treat with great respect

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these dubious

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‘authority’ businessmen (a euphemism for underworld-linked figures), and you do not

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speak, you do not tell the truth about these

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people.” See how nicely

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Vladimir Solovyov laughed — heh-heh-heh-heh. So, in other words,

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that’s the reaction: we’re being accused

21:15

of being corrupt, but we’re not corrupt. Because

21:18

you used to praise Bykov, right? United

21:21

Russia — all of you praised Bykov as long as

21:24

he seemed to be for Putin, or simply

21:26

kept quiet. And when it became clear that he was, well,

21:29

gaining a lot of support but still wouldn’t challenge

21:31

United Russia’s monopoly, then as soon as he

21:33

stepped beyond those bounds, that was it:

21:35

he became the worst of all, journalists became

21:37

corrupt, and they wouldn’t even let a local journalist...

21:41

Let’s look at the report at 1 minute 14 seconds.

21:43

Federal

21:45

colleagues, mocking his surname,

21:47

call him ‘Alkashkin’ (a mocking distortion implying “drunkard”). Returning again to

21:50

the subject of Anatoly Bykov’s arrest, as an example of

21:52

to the people who are here defending him right now

21:54

standing up for him, and using rather strange

21:57

expressions at that—because their patron, the so-called

21:59

man they see

22:02

there in all sorts of different positions,

22:04

they see him as their protector, a kind of

22:06

Robin Hood. He doesn’t talk like that, after all. As for

22:09

the admirers of Anatoly

22:10

Petrovich, at least learn how to conduct

22:12

yourselves the way Bykov does, and only then start shouting

22:16

that you’re right, and so on. And don’t

22:19

degrade yourselves and turn into this kind of—well,

22:21

basically some kind of lout who knows nothing except swearing

22:25

and other crude expressions. And

22:27

the settlement called Udachny (“Lucky”) became unlucky on May 7

22:30

for Anatoly Petrovich Bykov and for

22:32

his songbird Dima—what’s his last name, Polushin?

22:37

Dmitry Polushin. Well, judging by his face, he looked to me like

22:38

Dmitry the drunk. It’s surprising

22:41

that this drunk Dmitry couldn’t manage it,

22:43

because he sat at the dacha for a long time

22:44

thinking about how to come to his senses

22:47

after, on May 7, his ATM

22:49

stopped working and he could no longer hire anyone on the

22:52

banks of the Yenisei, and he doesn’t actually want to work.

22:54

His mug is already this huge,

22:56

already stinking all the way from Krasnoyarsk. I’m already

22:58

switching back to your language again.

23:00

Yes, that’s Dmitry for you.

23:03

See how easily it comes out when you talk like a drunk?

23:06

Just a moment ago everything was okay, and now

23:07

suddenly all the local corrupt people who

23:10

are defending him, and the local journalists—

23:12

they’re drunks, they stink, and so on. Why

23:15

am I going on about this for so long? Because,

23:17

first, this is going to keep happening;

23:18

second, Krasnoyarsk Krai is one of

23:21

the most important federal subjects in Russia, and I very much

23:24

hope that all residents of Krasnoyarsk

23:27

Krai will pay attention to this. You

23:29

may have voted for Bykov before, or not

23:30

voted for Bykov before; maybe

23:32

you don’t like him, but probably even more

23:34

than that, you really shouldn’t

23:36

like this boorishness. I mean, I can’t call it

23:39

the boorishness of Muscovites—I’m a Muscovite myself

23:41

and I take that perfectly normally. It’s the boorishness

23:43

of an utterly bought-and-paid-for

23:49

hack, from the same Bykov camp, feeding from the same

23:52

trough. And now he comes here and lectures everyone.

23:54

That’s why United Russia in

23:56

Krasnoyarsk Krai needs to be crushed, routed,

24:00

not given a single vote. Well, including because

24:02

people themselves

24:05

should decide: if Bykov is really that bad, then probably

24:07

they won’t vote for him. And if, well,

24:09

okay, he’s some kind of

24:11

rich man in his district—suppose he

24:14

can even buy something there, shower all the

24:16

pensioners with gifts, and they elect him—but probably

24:20

his party as a whole, in elections across the entire

24:22

region—a huge region—is unlikely to be able to buy

24:24

everyone. Let people decide for themselves. And if this

24:27

Bykov lived perfectly normally for 20 years and

24:30

now they’re fabricating some kind of case against him

24:32

over something from 24 years ago, then that’s

24:35

simply a mockery of all the local

24:37

people, and people should be outraged by it, should

24:39

resist it. This concerns all

24:41

regions. 78,000 people are watching us live right now.

24:44

That’s about twice as many as

24:47

we still need to gather right now on our ROI (Russian Public Initiative platform)

24:50

to reach

24:52

100,000 votes. We can’t get there.

24:55

Why? Because you’re sitting there like this,

24:57

in front of the screen with

24:59

your tea, thinking: ah, whatever, someone

25:02

will vote without me, my

25:04

vote doesn’t matter anyway.

25:06

It’s very important that you specifically don’t

25:08

get lazy. And you say, oh, I don’t remember

25:11

my password, and I don’t remember my login, I, I—

25:15

I know perfectly well all these—not excuses, but

25:17

thoughts—that I myself have every

25:19

time someone tells me to

25:21

sign something, do something, submit something. You log in, and

25:24

what was the password again? Well, okay,

25:27

like, come on, Lyoshka (diminutive of Alexei), keep talking about something else,

25:30

some other people

25:31

will vote. No—they won’t vote for you.

25:33

No other people will do it. You vote,

25:35

right now. It’s very important. We’ve got 68,000 votes.

25:39

There’s almost nothing left—32,000.

25:42

Right. Nina Pavlovna Zinchenko asks me:

25:46

“Good evening, Alexei, what do you think

25:48

about the merger of the NAO and

25:50

Arkhangelsk Oblast, and how is it beneficial

25:53

to the authorities?” Excellent question. And an excellent

25:56

post on this topic was written by FBK director

25:58

Ivan Zhdanov, who is himself actually

26:00

from that NAO—the Nenets Autonomous Okrug.

26:03

And this really is

26:06

—well, for people who don’t

26:08

closely follow these regions, or regions in general,

26:09

it may seem like some kind of nonsense,

26:12

some insignificant issue. But in

26:14

fact, everyone who follows this knows

26:16

it’s a significant issue, because

26:18

the NAO has a sea of money—

26:22

a huge amount of oil money. In

26:25

per capita terms, it’s a very rich region,

26:27

while

26:29

it’s also a corrupt region. But since

26:31

there are few residents and everyone knows each other there,

26:34

of course there is corruption, but everyone is kind of

26:35

in plain sight,

26:37

so it’s not that easy to steal a lot. And

26:41

Arkhangelsk Oblast is a huge region,

26:44

very poor, and we can debate for a long time

26:47

whether that’s fair or unfair, but the fact is

26:50

that the residents of the NAO would never, under any

26:54

circumstances, vote for a merger with

26:57

Arkhangelsk Oblast. That’s the second issue:

26:59

how we are supposed to ensure some degree of

27:01

equality among regions. That is, the fact

27:03

that Arkhangelsk Oblast

27:04

is closer to NAO oil does not mean that

27:07

it has a greater right to it than—I don’t

27:09

I know, Ryazan Oblast is a separate issue.

27:11

The question is how equality should be ensured there

27:14

among all the federal subjects, but

27:16

the fact is that if you hold an honest

27:20

vote, this will never happen, and

27:24

in the referendum that will take place there,

27:26

both federal subjects have to

27:27

vote. You can’t just do it so that

27:29

Arkhangelsk Oblast says, well,

27:31

basically, we’re incorporating you into ourselves — that’s

27:34

not allowed. The Nenets Autonomous Okrug (NAO) has to

27:36

vote for it too. That’s impossible, and so

27:39

these

27:40

so-called innovations in remote voting,

27:43

electronic voting, voting by

27:45

mail — voting by whatever means — have already inspired plenty

27:47

of jokes about voting with a TV remote

27:50

control, probably. And at this

27:51

referendum — I don’t know exactly when it

27:53

will happen, when it’s scheduled — we

27:56

will see either new tricks or at least

28:00

a full-scale vote-rigging operation.

28:03

Because they will have to falsify

28:05

basically all the votes cast in the NAO,

28:07

every single one of them, and that’s very important.

28:11

Ah, there are a lot of questions here about

28:14

merging regions. You see, people,

28:16

if we don’t live there, it seems to us that

28:18

whether they merge or not is none of our business. But

28:20

these things actually matter. They concern

28:22

logistics, they concern

28:25

funding per capita,

28:26

average wages, and so on.

28:29

It’s all complicated; everything in Russia’s regions

28:31

is very, very complicated, and we inherited

28:33

as a legacy

28:36

this kind of complicated, strange, and

28:38

idiotic — I’m being honest, idiotic —

28:40

federal system, one that is often

28:41

completely inexplicable.

28:43

But what the Kremlin is doing is not trying to

28:46

act fairly. Once again, it

28:48

starts cheating, and in this

28:50

particular situation there will be

28:52

a massive fraud against both all the residents of the NAO and

28:54

all the residents of Arkhangelsk Oblast,

28:56

because they will be forced to take part in

28:57

some kind of fake vote.

29:00

We’ll be watching this very closely.

29:02

So, Alexei, after the “Five

29:05

Steps” petition gathers the required number of signatures

29:07

on ROI (the Russian Public Initiative platform), what happens next? asks

29:09

Viktor Medved. Well, it’s not like

29:10

100,000 votes will make a casino-like ding

29:13

and money will start pouring out of

29:16

your laptop screen. No. After

29:18

we collect 100,000 — and as part of our

29:22

broader political campaign, we’re collecting

29:24

signatures here, applying

29:26

political pressure on the authorities there — we’ll

29:27

also have a formal mechanism, among other things.

29:30

Because right now the authorities say: we don’t

29:33

know, some people are demanding something from us on

29:35

the internet, we haven’t heard anything

29:37

about it at all. We have our position — it was stated by

29:39

Siluanov, it was stated by Putin — we fulfilled

29:41

one demand. Well, it wasn’t even really one

29:43

demand; we just did something

29:45

because we wanted to do it. But in fact,

29:47

as Putin says, there is no such thing as a

29:50

constructive agenda requiring us

29:53

to pay money to anyone at all.

29:55

No one is constructively demanding that from us, and

29:57

so when we collect 100,000 signatures, there will be

29:59

a document sitting in the Russian government

30:00

that they are obliged to respond to.

30:03

This was Putin’s initiative, and Putin

30:05

said that 100,000

30:07

verified signatures — a law was passed on this —

30:09

must receive official consideration. And we

30:11

understand that during that review

30:13

they’ll squirm and twist around,

30:15

wriggle like snakes, dodge, lie, and once again

30:19

spin some story. But the fact remains

30:22

a fact: they will have to say yes or no, and

30:25

we will put them in a situation

30:27

where a huge, organized number of people

30:30

has said:

30:33

we demand direct financial assistance. Here are five

30:35

specific points. You’ve already almost

30:37

fulfilled one; now fulfill the other four. And they

30:39

will have to respond. That is very important within

30:41

the political process.

30:43

But overall, as before, everything is still very

30:46

complicated. I

30:47

see a question from “Around the World in Nine” — damn, how do you

30:50

come up with these names? Alexei, Vladimir

30:52

Milov said that these ham-fisted devils and

30:54

economically — I won’t repeat that word

30:56

30:59

it rhymes with “McDuck” —

31:01

have screwed up Rosneft. How so? Watch

31:04

Milov; he understands this very well.

31:06

He really is one of the best

31:10

experts on this subject. Look,

31:12

you can simply — better yet — look at

31:14

Milov’s work; you can look at Rosneft’s market capitalization,

31:16

you can generally show the financial

31:18

figures, look at the financial indicators

31:19

of Rosneft to understand just how badly

31:22

things have been messed up there. And Sechin really — I mean,

31:25

he is one of — well, you can’t say that

31:27

he’s one of the dumbest people

31:29

in the country. He’s a very cunning, thieving

31:32

official, he’s insanely rich, he’s

31:34

absolutely greedy, a criminal

31:37

kind of guy. In that sense he’s not stupid, but for

31:40

a person who holds

31:41

public office, he is certainly

31:44

doing stupid things and systematically

31:46

looting, squandering, and

31:49

wrecking the company Rosneft. A very

31:52

funny thing — good that you asked me about it —

31:53

happened literally today, actually,

31:55

because you may remember that in

31:57

the previous program I told you about

31:59

how Putin’s eldest daughter, Maria

32:01

Vorontsova, got a new toy. She

32:04

Now she will be in charge of genetics.

32:06

And then there's this:

32:07

the younger one, Katerina Tikhonova, is playing around with

32:11

some kind of innovation center that will be

32:13

built at Moscow State University, and there will be some kind of

32:15

giant Valley, with a huge amount of

32:17

money, and she is de facto running

32:20

Moscow State University in practice, yes, because the rector,

32:23

Sadovnichy,

32:25

who was her academic supervisor and now

32:28

looks after her. Well, he's this little old man

32:30

they keep around simply because he is

32:33

Katerina Tikhonova's puppet, basically.

32:35

The older daughter was also handed a huge

32:37

fat slice of the pie, probably even fatter

32:39

than the younger one's: some kind of innovations in

32:43

genetics. That's especially very

32:46

funny, because in the previous program I

32:49

told you that a BBC report had come out

32:51

saying that Putin's daughter

32:54

would be handling all this genetics stuff

32:56

and that Rosneft had poured a ton of money into it, to which

33:00

Sechin said—I showed you this in the last program—

33:02

that it was all nonsense, all lies, that we

33:04

have absolutely nothing to do with it,

33:07

with any genetics center,

33:10

with any genetics at all—have you lost your minds? We

33:12

will go to court, they literally said.

33:13

Meaning, we'll sue everyone and get everyone

33:14

convicted. And today, what happens?

33:17

Today Putin is holding an online meeting

33:20

on this exact genetics issue, and

33:22

it turns out that Russia is now going to

33:24

make, of course, endless

33:27

breakthroughs in genetics, and all of this will be

33:30

commanded by Putin's daughter. Three

33:32

centers are being created in different parts of Russia, and all of it

33:35

will of course be financed by the company

33:37

Rosneft, which will serve as the main

33:38

coordinating center. Why the company

33:41

Rosneft? What does the company

33:44

Rosneft have to do with this? It's unclear. But just

33:47

last week they denied it, and now they're saying

33:49

yes. Let's watch 50 seconds of Putin: "As part of

33:51

the national Science project, there are being created

33:54

three world-class genome centers.

33:58

Each of them should represent

34:01

a consortium of research

34:03

institutes, universities, industrial and

34:06

innovative companies, stretching from

34:08

Novosibirsk to Crimea. The main

34:11

technological partner of the program

34:14

has become Rosneft. Igor Ivanovich, you

34:18

reported to me quite recently that

34:20

the relevant agreement with

34:22

the government had been signed.

34:24

Today, tell us about Rosneft's concrete steps within

34:28

the genetic technology development program.

34:30

Let's look at how work is progressing in

34:32

the key areas today, in this

34:34

case in genetics. What problems

34:37

require prompt solutions in order to

34:39

move forward faster?"

34:41

Forward. Eighty-five thousand people are watching us

34:43

live right now, and you just heard

34:45

Putin, and you were probably thinking, somewhere I've

34:47

heard something familiar. Of course—it's exactly the same

34:50

thing we had with

34:52

nanotechnology: breakthrough solutions,

34:54

scientific centers all across Russia, from

34:58

Siberia to Crimea, the best scientists,

35:07

nanotechnology, Skolkovo, super-

35:09

mega-tech-nology—the same thing again. And

35:13

the old-timers remember the "energy

35:16

superpower" and so on and so forth.

35:18

When they dragged out all those crooks,

35:20

the Kovalchuk brothers, and made one of

35:22

them the head of the Academy of Sciences, they told the same

35:24

stories about amazing,

35:26

marvelous technologies.

35:29

There's nothing. Absolutely everything has collapsed, but they

35:33

keep trying to invent a miracle

35:36

pill specifically for Putin. I really

35:40

mean, it's not just that I believe it—I believe,

35:43

I'm convinced of it, because, among other things,

35:45

I have some information. But Putin is just

35:46

this strange old man

35:50

who believes in miracles. At some point he was told

35:53

this:

35:54

"Vladimir Vladimirovich, you know,

35:58

they've invented all sorts of things. They have

36:01

computers, they have factories, they produce chips,

36:03

they make, I don't know, iPhones together with

36:05

the Chinese, they churn them out. These people have breakthroughs, those

36:07

people have breakthroughs, and we, with the help of

36:09

nanotechnology—some guy told us

36:12

at an exhibition that it's possible to invent a pill

36:14

for immortality. Maybe within

36:16

nanotechnology we'll make a breakthrough and

36:19

even patch you up, since you want to

36:21

run the country for 12 years." And they started

36:24

all that nonsense with Chubais. Who else

36:27

should we put in charge? Who's our effective

36:28

manager? Chubais. Let's get Chubais. Chubais

36:30

will invent the immortality pill. And so

36:32

they spent hundreds of billions of rubles

36:35

on projects that failed completely,

36:37

just utterly—everything wrecked, everything stolen,

36:40

absolutely everything, and the end result is zero, because

36:43

they simply fed Putin a load of nonsense about

36:45

how they would invent some kind of super-

36:47

pill and cure everyone and there would be

36:49

a giant breakthrough. Of course, no

36:51

breakthrough is possible if for 20 years you've

36:55

been falling apart. It doesn't work like, you know,

36:57

there was some palace or little house and you

36:59

ran it over with a KamAZ truck, and some part of it

37:02

remained completely intact. That's not how it works. But

37:05

they keep believing, and now

37:08

some new crook has come along and

37:10

said, "Vladimir Vladimirovich, so,

37:12

things didn't work out with nanotechnology,

37:14

of course. Fine, we'll write off all those

37:16

hundreds of billions of rubles. Now we'll

37:19

move on to the genetic code, the genome, and all that,

37:22

and they fed that old man a load of nonsense with

37:25

some pseudo-scientific expressions

37:27

and that's what we'll get."

37:28

There’ll be a breakthrough, 100 percent—it won’t just be some

37:31

immortality pill; it’ll be more like

37:33

like in the movies: you plug something in and suddenly there’s a superpower,

37:36

and you’re in a Superman suit

37:39

flying over planet Earth and, I don’t know,

37:42

chasing Americans while they squeal and

37:44

hide from you. And they really believe in this.

37:46

As for Sechin, of course—I mean, Sechin

37:49

is a sly crook; naturally, he doesn’t believe

37:52

any of it, but he’s already rubbing his hands together

37:55

because wherever Putin’s daughter is involved, there will be

37:59

colossal sums of money, and you can take as much

38:01

money as you want out of this, I don’t know,

38:04

Rosneft—this oil, this petroleum

38:06

money trough. He’s already stealing from it

38:08

as much as he wants, but now you can

38:11

just

38:12

loot completely unchecked, as much as you like,

38:14

because this is the project of Putin’s geneticist

38:17

daughter. Naturally, the crafty crook

38:20

Sechin—the first thing he says, right away, is:

38:22

“Let’s do all of this

38:26

through the taxable base,” meaning

38:28

the man’s first thought is: let’s also

38:30

pay no taxes at all on this, on this

38:32

account. And you’ll soon see

38:34

an unprecedented display of generosity, when

38:37

under cover of all this talk about some kind of

38:38

scientific centers from Novosibirsk to Crimea

38:42

colossal sums will be written off, and in the end

38:45

of course nothing will come of it.

38:48

But Katerina Tikhonova’s son-in-law—that is,

38:52

the first

38:53

son-in-law of Putin’s younger daughter—has become

38:56

the youngest... And Maria Vorontsova,

39:00

Putin’s elder daughter, together with all her, I don’t

39:01

even know who her husband is,

39:04

they’re all simply going to enrich themselves

39:07

beyond measure. Let’s listen to Sechin,

39:09

who immediately starts mumbling something

39:12

about taxes, saying let’s

39:14

do something here with the taxable base...

39:17

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, in connection with your

39:20

instruction

39:28

on the scientific and technical program for the development of genetic

39:31

technologies, I would ask you, dear

39:34

Vladimir Vladimirovich, to support the initiatives

39:36

of the company as a technological partner

39:38

of the Federal

39:39

Scientific and Technical Program for the Development

39:41

of Genetic Technologies in the coming

39:44

years, and to consider the possibility

39:46

of excluding Rosneft’s investments in

39:48

genetic technologies from the calculation of the

39:50

taxable

39:56

base. Seriously? Rosneft, a technological

39:59

partner in genetics? Everyone finds that absolutely ridiculous.

40:01

But yes, it’s ridiculous in itself, not to mention

40:04

how wild it looks when they simply

40:06

take one separate genetics project

40:09

and discuss it now, in the middle of an epidemic,

40:11

staging an entire online meeting with

40:15

Putin, who’s sitting in his bunker, but

40:17

holding a meeting on genetics. Why?

40:19

Because it’s his daughter, his own daughter.

40:23

So she has to be given full respect, and

40:25

all the cronies around her are

40:28

rubbing their hands together because, well, there will be

40:30

absolutely unchecked and

40:33

very safe embezzlement.

40:40

A couple of people, mainly—it’s all of course

40:43

a money grab. Well, someone has to be jailed,

40:45

and they’ll jail a couple of people. We’ve seen that with

40:47

the cosmodrome (spaceport) and with all the major

40:49

construction projects. But where Putin’s daughter is involved,

40:52

of course no one will be jailed,

40:53

because these are sacred projects, and no one will be allowed

40:56

even to stammer that some money

40:58

went astray. So keep a very close eye on this.

41:01

Now, an important point about

41:06

a person who has no such

41:07

high-ranking relatives, and what’s more,

41:09

he even went to work for an

41:11

organization that enjoys absolutely no

41:15

favor from the government or

41:17

from Rosneft—the story of our Ruslan

41:18

Shaveddinov. The latest update on him is this:

41:22

he was taken somewhere—Novaya Zemlya (a remote Russian Arctic archipelago),

41:26

and he was on Novaya Zemlya in some

41:28

little village, but now he’s been taken

41:30

to this nuclear test site, literally to

41:32

the middle of nowhere, into the snow. There’s a helicopter

41:34

landing pad there and nothing else.

41:38

And Ruslan, along with several other

41:41

unfortunate people there,

41:42

spends the whole day clearing

41:44

this helicopter pad, carrying snow away

41:47

in boxes and dumping it somewhere.

41:49

Naturally, everything gets covered with snow again, and

41:51

they do this constantly. There is

41:54

absolutely no communication there, and up to this point

41:56

all of Shaveddinov’s rights are being violated.

41:59

He cannot speak either with his mother or with

42:01

his lawyers—absolutely no one. There are no

42:03

means of communication, and we cannot

42:04

pass on any belongings to him at all.

42:06

And there,

42:07

why is this segment

42:10

called “The Snow Will Soon Become Dirty”? I

42:13

was very struck when I learned

42:16

that they melt snow there and

42:20

right now they consider themselves lucky because

42:22

the snow is still clean, and they can drink melted snow

42:25

because there is no other drinking water.

42:27

But soon the snow will become dirty and unfit

42:30

for drinking, and then water will have to be carried

42:33

from the nearest source, which is located

42:35

two kilometers away. So Shaveddinov—our

42:37

lawmakers... well, it’s the kind of thing you can’t even

42:43

really describe.

42:44

Just one absurd example: there is a television there,

42:47

but no broadcasts reach it.

42:51

And when Ruslan was brought there, the local

42:53

military personnel didn’t even

42:55

know that the Russian government had changed.

42:58

That’s how isolated these people are.

43:00

One moment—Vladlen Los, our lawyer,

43:03

will explain how we tried to

43:06

We’re going to court — in other words, we’re doing what we can.

43:08

In this situation, we are constantly using the courts

43:10

to demand that Shevi at least be given back

43:12

the right to get in touch, like everyone else.

43:15

Military personnel — soldiers, privates, contract servicemen, whoever

43:18

they may be — have the full right to regularly

43:21

contact their relatives.

43:22

Shvedin has been deprived of that right for several months already.

43:24

He has been denied that right. 1 minute 7 seconds. Los

43:27

will explain.

43:32

Dino was taken from the military unit where he

43:34

was serving, to an unknown location.

43:37

Contrary to the court’s ruling, he stopped

43:39

communicating, and to all of our

43:41

official inquiries, we received no

43:43

response. We filed a lawsuit with

43:45

the Arkhangelsk Garrison Court so that

43:47

Ruslan would not be prevented from using

43:50

the telephone. Nako

43:58

is a nuclear test site and an isolated

43:59

radio-technical post. The hearing was scheduled

44:02

for May 14 on the grounds of the military unit.

44:06

You can’t just get in there — you need a pass

44:09

from the Ministry of Defense, which we

44:10

requested through the court two days before the hearing.

44:13

The Ministry of Defense refused to issue us

44:16

passes, citing the coronavirus

44:18

epidemic. We filed a motion to

44:21

postpone the proceedings. The court

44:23

rescheduled it for the 3rd.

44:26

And next time, Ruslan’s right to

44:29

defense may just as easily

44:31

be restricted by officials from the Ministry

44:33

of Defense, just as his

44:36

right to use

44:38

communications is being restricted now. I still call on everyone who

44:41

knows something, understands something, who has

44:43

someone serving there, or someone who goes

44:45

back and forth there, to get in touch with us and

44:47

tell us at least some details about

44:49

Ruslan’s life, because right now this is

44:51

our only source of information.

44:53

Some military people, decent people, who

44:55

were there, saw everything with their own

44:56

eyes, and are simply retelling to us

44:58

what is happening to him, because we still

45:00

have not had the opportunity

45:02

to contact him, and even his lawyers — well, no one,

45:05

absolutely no one can get in touch with him.

45:07

I see a lot of questions. Alex Ger asks where

45:09

to see the figures and calculations by the economists

45:11

that Lyubov Sobol referred to — right on

45:13

the Five Steps website, plus a huge

45:15

amount of material is provided there.

45:16

And there’s a major interview with Guriev,

45:20

and a huge number of posts by Konstantin

45:23

Sonin. Well, all the, I would say, prominent

45:26

economists

45:27

of Russian origin have

45:29

spoken on this subject. A lot has been written

45:31

in articles — you’ll find all these calculations there. Michael

45:34

asks why Sobchak and

45:36

Lyubov Sobol argued about payments that no one

45:38

is going to make. And Stasia Caulfield

45:41

asks: Alexei, please comment on the Sobol

45:44

–Sobchak debate. There are many, many questions on this topic.

45:47

91,000 people are watching us

45:50

live. Guys, subscribe.

45:51

Go right now to ROI. We have 91,000, and we still

45:54

need — what, probably 25,000 more, maybe

45:57

— to collect. Though I’m being told here that

46:01

apparently my wife can’t log in to the presidential

46:03

state services portal (Gosuslugi); it says the

46:05

password is incorrect. Violetta writes:

46:08

“Gosuslugi is tricky with the temporary password,”

46:10

“they send it with a delay.” Dmitry Sitnikov says, “I can’t

46:13

vote on ROI — it won’t link my email.”

46:15

Well, it’s obvious they don’t want this. I think

46:19

right now someone in the government is calling

46:22

some people at the Ministry of Communications and saying,

46:24

“Are you idiots? Why did you even allow this petition

46:27

through?” And they’re making excuses, saying, “Well,

46:29

the deadline expired, two weeks passed — actually

46:31

even three weeks passed. We’re obliged to publish it.”

46:34

But over there they’re yelling in terrifying voices

46:36

to remove it, or cut the vote count, or something else,

46:39

because of course they do not want

46:40

this petition to appear, because it is yet

46:43

another news hook for people to

46:45

discuss. And precisely in connection with these debates

46:47

which went, well, very successfully from the point

46:51

of view of, well, overall

46:52

debate as a form of political action,

46:55

which I love very much and which many of you

46:57

also love — they went just brilliantly. And

47:00

170,000 people watched them simultaneously

47:03

on three different platforms. We

47:04

broadcast them here, they were also

47:07

broadcast by Echo of Moscow, and they were broadcast

47:09

by Sobchak on her own channel, and probably

47:11

someone else restreamed them too. But at least we

47:14

know that 170,000 people

47:16

were watching at the same time. I wish my

47:18

live streams got numbers like that. I mean, it’s very cool. It

47:20

shows just how much people miss

47:23

debates. And in general, everyone watching

47:27

can see

47:29

how important political discussion is, and how it affects those in power,

47:32

and how attention to

47:34

political discussion matters. There was a question:

47:36

why Sobchak with Putin? Why did Sobchak and

47:39

Sobol discuss something Putin would never

47:41

do? But he did carry out point number

47:43

one — well, his point was number three,

47:45

but one of the five points he almost

47:47

fulfilled, including because these

47:51

debates took place, and also because there was

47:54

huge interest in them. They use various

47:56

indicators

47:58

to figure out what the people want. But for us too,

48:00

it’s interesting to know what people want and how they

48:01

will vote. Can you imagine how interested they are,

48:04

and how vitally important it is for them

48:07

to understand what we think, to understand how

48:10

they need to scheme around us, to understand how, how

48:13

to do something formally while in practice

48:15

paying no one. And in that sense, the debates

48:17

were very important. I watched them.

48:19

And, of course, Lyubov Sobol was there.

48:23

She absolutely demolished Sobchak, simply because in

48:26

that case, what was the argument against it? Well, the whole

48:30

argumentation against it, essentially from Sobchak,

48:32

the main argument boiled down to

48:34

several points: that it was populism, and now

48:37

after Putin has already carried out

48:39

one of the points from our five-step plan, they

48:41

are no longer talking about it anymore; now it is no longer populism.

48:43

It is completely normal. Second: why do you

48:45

want to give Sechin 20,000 rubles?

48:48

Let's take a look. Sobchak, with this

48:49

argument of hers that she kept repeating endlessly,

48:52

we are not going to answer why Sechin needs

48:54

20,000 rubles. I repeat, this is also a direct quote from Alexei

48:57

Navalny from an interview with Echo of Moscow

49:00

where he is asked, "Does Sechin need it too?

49:02

20,000?" "Yes, Sechin too. Well, I think Sechin

49:05

will be pleased to receive from Navalny

49:08

20,000 rubles." Well, this line of

49:11

argument is laughable, obviously. Yes, of course, you do not

49:12

want to give Sechin 20,000 rubles. But much

49:14

more than that, you want

49:17

another 146 million people to receive 20,000 rubles each. In that sense, I

49:20

am ready to give it to Sechin too, and

49:23

everyone understands that, and the polls that

49:26

were held on every platform showed that, well,

49:28

absolutely no one found this argument

49:30

convincing. And, well, of course, the weakness

49:33

of Sobchak's position. And, frankly, her

49:36

whatever polite word one might choose,

49:39

she is not very smart, and most often

49:43

when you saw her doing

49:45

an interview with someone, that person

49:47

there was, well, a direct connection between the microphone and

49:51

her mouth. There are a lot of jokes about this

49:53

among the journalists who work with her.

49:55

That is, she constantly has

49:56

someone in her earpiece who simply

49:58

tells her what to say. And in that sense,

50:01

she is quite a unique person

50:03

because she has mastered this skill very

50:04

well; it is not so easy to sit there with an earpiece

50:06

in your ear. For example, I find it difficult if

50:09

the director is telling me something, so I

50:10

never have an earpiece because

50:13

when they are saying something

50:15

it distracts you. You have to think of something,

50:17

rephrase it somehow, whereas she just has

50:20

a completely direct, direct

50:22

connection there, and without that earpiece

50:25

nothing works for her anymore. And in particular,

50:27

for some reason she brought up again the argument about

50:29

which I told you in the previous

50:31

program. I said that Sobchak would

50:34

lie that she was the first, and that is how she

50:36

began her debate. Well, because

50:38

no other argument occurred to her.

50:41

"23 seconds. I am against lies and

50:44

distortions, which, unfortunately, you, in

50:47

particular, Lyubov Eduardovna, engage in.

50:50

You engage in it. You know, you are like

50:52

political Chinese: you take other people's

50:54

ideas, modify them somehow,

50:57

and not only pass them off as your own,

51:00

but also accuse everyone around you

51:04

of distorting things."

51:08

"Political Chinese stole the idea." Well,

51:10

you can argue endlessly about whose idea it was first,

51:14

but in essence

51:16

there are absolutely no substantive arguments

51:18

against this idea; it is impossible to argue against it

51:22

in any truly rational and

51:23

thoughtful way, because a substantive

51:26

argument is an argument. Here, for example,

51:28

someone asked on Navalny's Politician program, and

51:30

a person with this name asks:

51:31

"Alexei, good evening. Putin is handing out

51:33

10,000 rubles. Won't that be followed by inflation?

51:36

Will everything get more expensive?" The answer is no. Many calculations

51:38

have been made on this subject. No, all economists

51:41

who understand macroeconomics

51:43

say no: neither from 10,000 nor from

51:46

20,000 rubles for each person will inflation

51:48

increase at all. And that same

51:51

well-known economist Konstantin Sonin

51:53

published a post not only on this topic

51:56

well, quite a long post, effectively

51:58

an article, saying that this epidemic, and in general

52:01

this crisis, will not cause inflation.

52:03

In general, this is very important for understanding

52:06

whether direct assistance can be provided

52:08

or whether direct assistance cannot be provided.

52:09

Therefore, essentially, all

52:11

the substantive, important arguments, well,

52:12

each of us really does think about this:

52:14

can we really hand out

52:16

20,000 rubles to everyone right now? Will there be enough

52:17

money? Will there be inflation? Will

52:19

the country go bankrupt? These are valid questions,

52:22

valid questions. They have all been discussed, and

52:24

there are answers to them, including on our

52:26

Five Steps website, and so all that remains

52:30

to argue about, all the arguments one can

52:32

argue with, are some kind of nonsense on the subject

52:34

of whether Sechin also gets 20,000 rubles. And now

52:38

it is especially difficult because Putin

52:40

has started giving 10,000 rubles per child, and then

52:44

the question arises: what, should Sechin's

52:46

children get 20,000 too, and Putin's grandchildren

52:50

10,000, and everyone else as well? Well,

52:53

already the Kremlin propagandists have, as it were,

52:57

run into this part of the issue: that rich people also

52:59

have children, and they can apply, or they can choose not to

53:02

apply for these 10,000. It was actually

53:06

quite striking; I noticed it because sometimes you have

53:08

to pay attention because sometimes you have to

53:10

immerse yourself in the amazing life

53:12

of insects, dive to the bottom like in the film

53:13

*Parasite*, go down to the bottom, and there at the bottom we discover

53:17

a person who used to swim fairly

53:19

high up and was quite

53:21

important. There are two such marginal figures

53:24

I want to talk with you about.

53:25

There is an opinion that, really, why even

53:27

talk about them, because they are marginal

53:29

and ridiculous, and instead we should be discussing

53:31

more interesting topics. But this is very

53:33

Amusingly, and it seemed telling to me that

53:35

even this sort of servant class of the authorities

53:38

at the lower levels, looking at these

53:41

debates, this discussion—well, in fact it was

53:43

interesting. Whether Sobchak was good or bad,

53:45

she did agree to these debates, she agreed,

53:47

she took part, there was a whole saga around it

53:50

about whether she would agree or not, and the host there,

53:54

there was an argument over whether the host judged fairly. I

53:57

think she was very fair, and many

53:58

thanks to Echo of Moscow and Tatyana

53:59

Felgengauer

54:03

for the live broadcast. Overall, it was watched by

54:07

several million people—great. And so

54:09

all of this—if we then look down to the bottom, we

54:12

will see how these nasty little

54:15

servants of the authorities, who also want

54:17

somehow to take part in politics, they too

54:20

are like: well, debates—we want that too,

54:22

it’s cool to somehow feel involved in

54:25

this life, because it’s boring just

54:28

to collect a salary and sit in some

54:30

obscurity at Russia Today or somewhere there in

54:33

some kind of irrelevant

54:35

part of United Russia—they also really

54:36

want in on it, and

54:38

and the biggest

54:41

and the biggest fans of watching these

54:46

parasites at the bottom were just, with

54:48

crying emojis, forwarding me

54:52

a funny Telegram discussion between

54:55

the former leader of Moscow’s United

54:58

Russia, Andrei Metelsky. Why did I

54:59

say earlier that this fish used to swim

55:01

quite high up? Well now it has

55:02

sunk to the bottom, because lately

55:05

he’s been driven out from everywhere thanks to

55:09

Smart Voting; he was kicked out, and now he

55:11

is desperately trying to claw his way back somewhere, and

55:15

doing some very strange things,

55:17

for example recording some video about

55:19

how masks should be worn—we’ll look at it later

55:22

in the section about

55:24

how the regime is being introduced across Russia, well, that is,

55:27

he’s trying to attract some attention

55:29

to himself. In particular, he was walking around

55:32

his district and staging PR events; he was helping

55:35

families in need. Let’s watch: 1

55:37

minute 23 seconds. For more than a month already,

55:40

United Russia, United Russia volunteers,

55:42

have been working in the city, helping

55:45

Muscovites on weekends, holidays, and on

55:49

ordinary

55:50

days. We believe this is our civic

55:53

duty; we believe this is our important and

55:56

responsible work. United Russia was,

56:00

is, and will remain the party that will

56:02

protect

56:09

Muscovites. Of course, it’s probably easier

56:12

to make accusations while lying on the couch. But we call on

56:14

everyone, all political forces, all

56:18

political organizations, everyone who

56:20

cares: come and let’s help

56:24

our neighbors. I would like to say

56:26

thank you to everyone for not abandoning us in this

56:29

difficult time and for continuing to support us, just as

56:33

in ordinary times. I want to express my heartfelt

56:35

gratitude for the help and the

56:44

support provided. We are doing the right thing. And

56:47

thank you to Muscovites for their understanding and

56:51

[music]

56:53

support. Help your

56:56

loved ones, and most importantly, if you

57:00

need help, call

57:03

us. What heart-rending music.

57:06

Help the doctors, call us. 95,000 people are

57:09

watching us live, and together we are

57:11

observing the life of bottom-dwellers,

57:16

bottom-dwelling admirers of the authorities and its

57:18

supporters. So then, Metelsky

57:20

put out this rather nauseating video on

57:22

his Telegram channel, where it was seen by

57:25

hardly anyone, basically

57:27

the main audience for this video was, well,

57:28

the person who had just seen it and challenged him

57:30

to a debate. Guess who? Remember that

57:33

girl who, basically,

57:35

became famous—she formally calls herself

57:37

a journalist. She works for Russia Today, but

57:39

she became known after there was

57:42

a rally organized by the mayor’s office itself

57:44

against the mayor’s office, against the renovation program; it was

57:46

a rally specially staged in order to

57:48

break up this large movement of Muscovites.

57:50

I also went to that rally, I too

57:52

went there,

57:53

with my family, and there I was taken away by

57:56

the police.

57:57

Naturally, that became what everyone discussed, rather than

57:58

what was being said from the stage, and online

58:01

there circulated a video of Katya Vinokurova sobbing

58:05

and saying that everything had been so good

58:07

until Navalny showed up. Let’s recall that

58:11

video, because everything had been so good

58:14

until Navalny appeared. Everything had been so

58:18

great. And so, basically, Vinokurova

58:21

she works, she is one of

58:25

them—I mean, one of those parasites who

58:27

are there. And so, she also wants

58:31

it too—Sobol and Sobchak are sparring, discussing

58:34

some kind of programs, so she needed something too, and she

58:36

decided to go after this

58:37

Metelsky. And then between them there

58:39

followed a hilarious little scene.

58:40

Katya Vinokurova writes him an address,

58:44

saying: you, Metelsky, a United Russia member, are doing a bad job

58:48

you are shamelessly doing PR off the residents

58:51

of Izmailovo; you are not a resident of Izmailovo at all,

58:53

you do not live there, and in general you are putting

58:55

the residents at risk. After that, Metelsky,

58:58

who also—well, a former leader, he

59:01

is probably still the formal leader

59:03

of Moscow’s United Russia—but you’ve been

59:05

thrown out from everywhere, no one pays

59:07

any attention to you anymore, so he also needs to take part in

59:09

some kind of political discussion

59:10

and he records a video for her on

59:12

Telegram where he shows his passport and

59:15

He says he lives in the Eastern District.

59:18

Let's

59:20

take a look. Good evening, Katya, I decided

59:22

to record a video message for you. First of all,

59:25

I want to say just a little bit: as the secretary of the Moscow

59:28

city organization of the United

59:29

Russia party, so this is almost a joke already. Although—

59:33

jokes aside—you wanted to talk to me,

59:35

well then, come to my

59:36

party office, we'll sort everything out, and I'll answer

59:40

all the questions that

59:42

interest you. Yes, you wanted to become a deputy,

59:46

well, that's possible too. Go through

59:48

the preliminary voting procedure,

59:49

the so-called primary. Prove that you are

59:51

better, and we will nominate you in the 205th electoral

59:55

district. What's more, then I won't have to

59:57

make any financial contributions or

1:00:00

take any other steps—the party will

1:00:01

support you. Katya, so don't be shy,

1:00:04

come by, we don't bite. One more thing I'd

1:00:06

like to tell you: I've lived for a long time in

1:00:09

the Eastern District. To prove it, I'm showing you

1:00:12

my passport, look. So, Katya, I

1:00:15

live in the Eastern District, so good evening,

1:00:19

neighbor.

1:00:21

What a video message, huh.

1:00:26

There are only a few dozen people so far, but it's important for me to show

1:00:29

just how much even these people want it—they have

1:00:32

a pull toward public politics. And in

1:00:33

fact, how much they have this kind of

1:00:36

simple, cynical attitude. The guy just

1:00:37

says, well, come join us in United

1:00:39

Russia and we'll make you a deputy—you won't even

1:00:41

have to spend any money. Too bad he didn't

1:00:43

say the most important line, because

1:00:45

everyone else will pay for you with their money. Well,

1:00:48

and then they kept challenging each other, very

1:00:49

amusingly, to debates, and then Yekaterina

1:00:52

Vinokurova, for her part, recorded

1:00:55

the following video for him.

1:00:59

Andrei Nikolaevich,

1:01:01

Metelsky, you can wave

1:01:03

around

1:01:04

your passport all you want. We still haven't seen

1:01:08

whether you are actually a resident of our district. First of all, you

1:01:11

created a crowd, which

1:01:15

is a violation of every possible public health rule,

1:01:18

yes. That is, instead of helping

1:01:21

families, you created a threat of infecting them.

1:01:24

second,

1:01:26

back in the fall, in response to my

1:01:30

proposal to simply talk,

1:01:31

you sent back the reply: I don't know who you are.

1:01:34

Well then, I'm glad you stopped being

1:01:37

a deputy, because you are a unique kind of

1:01:40

deputy—one who did nothing for us,

1:01:43

did not take part in the life of our

1:01:45

district, and never helped us in any way at all.

1:01:49

Please, I am asking you very much: right now, do not

1:01:51

violate our sanitary and

1:01:54

epidemiological safety measures. That's all, thank you.

1:01:57

Come on, don't tell me this isn't adorable. When I

1:01:59

was watching this, I mean, this is

1:02:00

really something: two people standing at the same

1:02:03

feeding trough. There it is, the trough. Here they go—

1:02:06

budget money—they bend down into it,

1:02:08

they eat from it, and then they

1:02:09

say to each other, sort of sweetly, let's cut each

1:02:12

other down, challenge each other to debates. Then there was

1:02:14

a long saga. I'll just show you one more

1:02:16

video from Yekaterina Vinokurova. Well,

1:02:19

just, simply—

1:02:21

adorable. And the second point: yes, I'm trying

1:02:26

to stop touching my badly cut

1:02:29

bangs with my

1:02:31

hands, like all Muscovites. So then,

1:02:34

Andrei Nikolaevich, first: please, once again,

1:02:38

stop dragging an entourage around behind you.

1:02:41

Just stop.

1:02:43

Stop. Second: stop

1:02:45

waving your passport around, because you

1:02:49

have nothing to do with our district or with

1:02:52

its problems,

1:02:54

at all.

1:02:56

Leave our district to us—to Muscovites, to us,

1:03:02

the residents of our neighborhood and our

1:03:07

district. And really, if you have any

1:03:10

conscience at all, then you simply should not be going to the State Duma (the lower house of Russia's parliament)

1:03:13

at all. Thank you very much.

1:03:21

Well, I think half the

1:03:24

viewers are melting right now, and the other half

1:03:26

have thrown up on their laptop keyboards, but

1:03:28

in fact it's important to remember that both one and

1:03:30

the other are people who get money from

1:03:34

us. Vinokurova, in the literal sense of the word,

1:03:36

is a journalist on state

1:03:39

television; Metelsky is a United Russia member. So

1:03:41

these are people we pay money to. I mean,

1:03:43

I'm just amazed—they are still

1:03:45

arranging debates, and it's so sweet

1:03:48

to watch how they—they want to be in politics,

1:03:50

they also

1:03:52

want to respect themselves, and later they want

1:03:56

to tell their children and grandchildren that

1:03:59

you know, we took part in

1:04:00

political battles, we faced off once

1:04:03

in debates. I propose that Vinokurova and

1:04:05

Metelsky hold a debate—right here, even

1:04:07

on the Navalny Live channel. We will give you

1:04:09

an audience; lots of people will watch you.

1:04:11

Come and argue about something, anything at all.

1:04:14

We're all for debates. A lot of people write saying,

1:04:18

let's have more debates, more debates,

1:04:20

organize them. I'd do nothing but organize them.

1:04:21

I keep telling Sobol: Lyuba, let's

1:04:23

do new debates. But first of all,

1:04:25

technically it's not always easy to do, and

1:04:27

second,

1:04:28

representatives of the authorities most often simply

1:04:31

refuse. We can put together as many

1:04:33

pairs of various liberals here as we want,

1:04:35

very liberal ones or

1:04:40

half-liberals, because right now they don't

1:04:42

have all that much to argue about

1:04:45

these days. What you really want, though,

1:04:48

is for people to disagree, for them to have

1:04:50

different views on what's happening—then it

1:04:53

An interesting debate. Well, we’ll try—maybe

1:04:55

we’ll manage to achieve something.

1:04:57

But in any case, this discussion is

1:05:01

super important, and this conversation is super important

1:05:03

for putting pressure on the authorities, however

1:05:06

strange that may look or sound.

1:05:08

It may seem odd that Sobol and Sobchak were arguing on Echo

1:05:11

of Moscow (a Russian radio station), but the pressure was felt by Putin, who

1:05:14

sits in the Kremlin, because even judging by

1:05:17

the number of viewers, it was clear that this was

1:05:18

the number one issue, and there was no way around it. And

1:05:22

when the authorities have no way out and they

1:05:24

understand that they have to do at least something,

1:05:28

they will take the first step—and Putin did take

1:05:30

the first step. And yes, let me praise him for that.

1:05:33

He did absolutely the right thing. We want

1:05:35

more—we want all

1:05:38

Five Steps to be carried out, so sign up right

1:05:40

now. 95,000 people are watching us

1:05:41

live, and we still need 71,000 votes.

1:05:44

We’ve already collected a lot, guys—we just need a little more.

1:05:46

Just a little more—please don’t be lazy,

1:05:47

vote, those of you who haven’t

1:05:49

voted yet on the Five Steps website.

1:05:51

Go there and vote, because, well,

1:05:54

every vote is like a small, you know,

1:05:56

red flag that we are lining up

1:05:58

in front of the Russian government and personally

1:06:00

in front of Putin, so that they understand that

1:06:03

if you want to get out of this situation

1:06:05

and preserve at least some approval rating, you have to

1:06:08

give people money—and they have now. And

1:06:12

thanks to our campaign, we forced

1:06:14

the authorities, and 27 million Russian families will receive

1:06:18

at least some help: 10,000 rubles (about $110) per

1:06:21

child. The conditions are rather strange,

1:06:24

in terms of how they were set up:

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1:06:28

from age three to fifteen inclusive. Well,

1:06:32

naturally, everyone is writing: what, does a two-year-old not

1:06:35

need money? And at 16, do they not

1:06:37

need it? Do they not need to be fed? It’s a strange

1:06:39

thing. I mean, it’s clear why: because

1:06:41

they still want to hand out as little money as

1:06:44

possible. But now they are already paying out

1:06:47

a substantial amount—many, many

1:06:49

billions of rubles from the reserve fund,

1:06:51

which, strictly speaking,

1:06:53

is meant for exactly this purpose, and they could

1:06:55

spend much more without any risk of

1:06:57

inflation. So we need to keep up the pressure.

1:06:59

This is very important. Let’s look at what

1:07:02

Putin said about this

1:07:04

10,000-ruble (about $110) payment per child: “Starting June 1

1:07:08

of this year, there will be

1:07:11

a one-time payment of 10,000 rubles

1:07:15

for every child from age 3 until

1:07:20

they turn 16. And I want

1:07:24

to emphasize: right now, people are in no position

1:07:26

to be collecting certificates

1:07:29

and official extracts, so we made, in my view,

1:07:32

the right and fair decision: for

1:07:34

receiving this one-time assistance, we will not

1:07:37

introduce any formal

1:07:40

criteria. Right now, there can be only

1:07:43

one

1:07:43

condition: everyone must receive assistance,”

1:07:47

everyone who needs it. I repeat: every

1:07:51

Russian family with children aged

1:07:55

3 to 15 inclusive will be able to apply for

1:07:59

this kind of

1:08:00

one-time

1:08:02

assistance.” It was so satisfying to watch that.

1:08:06

Well, in fact, I really do think

1:08:08

that it’s important to say here that Putin

1:08:10

made the right decision. Yes, we pushed him into it,

1:08:12

but that, essentially, is what

1:08:13

politics is: people, voters, force

1:08:16

a politician’s hand, and he makes

1:08:19

a decision, while they pressure him

1:08:21

from different sides so that it is the right one. And

1:08:23

look at the rhetoric: assistance must

1:08:26

be given to everyone. That is literally what we

1:08:29

were saying. Before that, they told us,

1:08:31

through the words of Siluanov, Nabiullina, Gref,

1:08:37

and everyone else: what do you mean, help for everyone?

1:08:39

That’s nonsense. No such help. Sobchak was saying

1:08:41

the same thing too: what do you mean, help for everyone? It should be targeted

1:08:44

to the middle class or to some specific groups, but

1:08:46

you can’t give it to everyone, because that would be

1:08:48

helicopter money—horrible, horrible, horrible—and they’d

1:08:50

just be throwing it around. But it turned out

1:08:53

that none of that was true, and it turned out that

1:08:56

there is, and I was asking everyone there how,

1:09:00

how easy or difficult the application process was.

1:09:02

Yes, the Gosuslugi website (Russia’s public services portal) did crash at first.

1:09:05

In the early months, incidentally, we

1:09:07

spent many billions of rubles on it,

1:09:09

and the person who built

1:09:11

that public services website is now

1:09:13

serving as Russia’s communications minister. So

1:09:15

that man clearly has very clumsy hands, but

1:09:17

even so, they are now accepting these

1:09:20

applications. There have been some incidents, like

1:09:22

for example in

1:09:23

Stavropol, where there was video of people standing

1:09:26

outside the Pension Fund office in order to

1:09:27

get a SNILS number (Russia’s personal insurance account number). Let’s watch 30

1:09:36

seconds of it—and there they all are, yes, I’m filming it.

1:10:03

As I understand it, these incidents are still

1:10:05

isolated, and connected with the fact that there are

1:10:07

quite a lot of people who

1:10:08

basically never got a SNILS number

1:10:10

and don’t understand how to get one, so they

1:10:11

ran to these Pension Fund offices. Right now

1:10:13

everyone’s applications are being accepted—or at least, for the most part, they are being accepted

1:10:15

fairly well. And this also proves the point:

1:10:18

they told us that no such

1:10:20

proper system existed through which money could be given

1:10:23

to everyone. But they managed it. More than that, they even managed

1:10:26

to carve out the age bracket from 3 to 15—it would have been much easier

1:10:29

to pay everyone from 0 to 18, which is what

1:10:31

we proposed. But they managed even under a more

1:10:33

complicated system, nevertheless, to accept applications from everyone.

1:10:35

Why are they doing this? Because

1:10:38

there is public pressure. Without public pressure,

1:10:42

they won’t do a damn thing. And we

1:10:44

can see that, incidentally, right now, with

1:10:46

some benefits that had supposedly been promised to small

1:10:49

businesses, preferential payroll loans

1:10:51

and so on. Because yes, Putin came out

1:10:53

and made promises, but as the saying goes, you can wait three years for what’s promised, and

1:10:57

if there’s no public pressure, even some

1:10:59

supposedly sacred things that he

1:11:02

stood there swearing by—they simply

1:11:04

don’t get carried out. Right now there’s this whole saga going on, and once again

1:11:07

it’s starting up with the adoption of this

1:11:08

Constitution. And remember when all of this

1:11:11

was being passed, and they explained to us that it was necessary

1:11:13

to do some super important things, while

1:11:15

tucked inside was this little thing

1:11:17

about extending Putin’s terms in office—but supposedly very important

1:11:19

one of those very important things was

1:11:21

hot meals for schoolchildren, and there was a whole

1:11:24

big saga about how finally Vladimir

1:11:27

Vladimirovich, right there in the Constitution, we

1:11:29

would write that our children should be given hot meals, or at least

1:11:32

something warm for breakfast at

1:11:34

schools, because this was a breakthrough, a

1:11:36

grand breakthrough for Russia. And everyone

1:11:38

said, finally, thank God. And then

1:11:41

you’d think that such a measure—an odd one, really,

1:11:44

which, for example, already existed in Moscow—and

1:11:45

which really should have been adopted

1:11:47

long ago as a matter of course—they would surely be able

1:11:50

to implement it. Let’s remember how Putin

1:11:52

talked about these free meals

1:11:54

for schoolchildren: in this connection, I propose

1:11:57

to provide free hot meals

1:12:00

to all primary school students from the first

1:12:02

through fourth

1:12:06

grade. What applause. I’d play you

1:12:08

more of that video if I could—just the entire

1:12:11

United Russia party finally celebrating this “brilliant idea.”

1:12:13

And what happened next? Well, our headquarters in Irkutsk

1:12:16

simply published the response sent by

1:12:20

the regional government, the Ministry of

1:12:22

Education, and it says in plain language

1:12:24

that, guys, at the present time

1:12:27

the Irkutsk Region cannot provide this

1:12:31

and all these efforts related to

1:12:33

school meals have been postponed until September 1, 2022.

1:12:36

Do you understand? Some kind of—good Lord—

1:12:41

well, you don’t want to call them lousy children’s meals, but

1:12:43

let’s be honest, not especially

1:12:45

expensive school meals—for the Irkutsk

1:12:49

Region, where not long ago they forced

1:12:51

the governor to resign. The governor

1:12:53

was a Communist, so apparently he was

1:12:55

the problem. And now a United Russia politician is there again

1:12:57

running everything, and the Irkutsk Region—

1:13:00

energy, industry—it’s a super

1:13:02

developed region. You’d think everything there

1:13:04

should be fine, and yet they can’t

1:13:06

provide these miserable hot meals

1:13:10

because in Russia, in order to get what you’ve been promised,

1:13:11

you have to fight for it.

1:13:14

You have to sink your teeth into it and

1:13:18

drag it out. If you don’t drag it out, well,

1:13:20

then that’s it—those hot meals just

1:13:23

dissolve somewhere among the many, many, many

1:13:27

many other promises made to businesses.

1:13:30

They promised them something there—there was a great post

1:13:34

about it. Even Sberbank is already causing outrage; all

1:13:37

these reposts came from the owner of

1:13:38

a St. Petersburg chain of stores, coffee shops, and the

1:13:40

Sever-Metropol confectionery company

1:13:42

Elena Shevchenko. She simply published

1:13:44

a list of how many documents Sberbank

1:13:47

demanded from her in order for them

1:13:50

to issue this payroll loan.

1:13:52

There were 33 items. Do you understand? You need

1:13:56

to drag in a separate accountant just so they can

1:13:59

collect all these documents. Let me point out

1:14:02

for those who maybe aren’t following very closely or

1:14:04

aren’t aware: this is not

1:14:07

for the sake of giving you some

1:14:08

interest-free loan worth a bazillion

1:14:10

dollars, and not so they can simply give

1:14:13

you a large amount on favorable terms.

1:14:15

This is so they can give you a repayable

1:14:17

loan calculated at 12,000 rubles per

1:14:20

employee—maybe a little more in St. Petersburg

1:14:22

because it’s based on the subsistence minimum, on the

1:14:24

minimum wage. In other words, for them to give you

1:14:25

just

1:14:27

peanuts, you have to come up with 33 documents.

1:14:31

So why is it set up this way? So that

1:14:33

it becomes impossible: you bring them in,

1:14:34

they say more, more, more—and eventually you give up

1:14:37

or you’ve already gone bankrupt by that point,

1:14:40

because if they just promised you something,

1:14:42

they’ll never simply give you anything. Exactly the same

1:14:45

thing with doctors. You’d think that now,

1:14:48

with the epidemic, doctors are overwhelmed. When, on one of the

1:14:52

programs a couple of months

1:14:56

ago, I was discussing with you here the fact that doctors needed

1:14:59

protective equipment, it seemed

1:15:00

like something exotic, and nobody really understood what

1:15:03

we meant, because nobody was talking

1:15:05

about it. Now everyone is talking. We

1:15:07

demanded that doctors be paid more, but

1:15:09

we supported the union, the union demanded it,

1:15:11

and now absolutely everyone is talking about it.

1:15:13

Putin came out and basically said, I swear, we’ll do everything,

1:15:16

everyone will get their payments. But you can see the whole

1:15:19

internet is flooded with pay slips showing that

1:15:21

someone was paid 500 rubles

1:15:24

credited, someone else 200 rubles

1:15:27

credited, even though they said everyone working

1:15:29

with COVID would get an 80,000-ruble bonus. They

1:15:32

recalculate it by the hour and by the

1:15:33

minute and end up paying no one. In Nizhny

1:15:36

Novgorod, at the Sormovo ambulance substation, people

1:15:39

the ambulance doctors are simply holding

1:15:41

an impromptu meeting because

1:15:44

they aren’t being paid, and they’re being forced to work with

1:15:46

COVID patients. But never mind—Putin promised it,

1:15:48

so let him pay you. A meeting like that takes place,

1:15:51

34 seconds long, and damn it, you have to go to

1:15:53

members of parliament, make a fuss,

1:15:56

to the Investigative Committee,

1:16:05

you have to contact the prosecutor’s office, the Investigative

1:16:08

Committee, write complaints—otherwise they say, we don’t have

1:16:10

any such

1:16:16

orga...

1:16:17

the Nizhny Novgorod administration

1:16:20

they wrote to the administration

1:16:24

the president, yes, and the administration passes it down to you

1:16:28

and now the health minister says

1:16:31

of the Nizhny Novgorod Region, named David

1:16:32

Melik-Huseynov has already said it—what do you think

1:16:34

what did he say? That these people were right

1:16:37

to gather, and that we are paying them their wages

1:16:39

No, he told them that this was a provocation and

1:16:43

a paid hit job. Well, I mean, sure, of course

1:16:44

someone deliberately went there, damn it, you see

1:16:47

to the Sormovo ambulance substation as provocateurs, they

1:16:49

were sitting at home thinking, what kind of

1:16:51

provocation should we stage? Let's go to the

1:16:53

Sormovo district and gather there at the substation

1:16:55

to demand the extra payment that actually

1:16:58

is supposedly being paid. I mean, seriously, the guy comes out

1:17:00

and says, we've paid everyone the full amount

1:17:01

of it. Provocation... I'm just saying that

1:17:04

first of all, these doctors are doing the right thing, and I

1:17:06

think that all medical workers across the country right now

1:17:09

simply should just

1:17:11

go on strike. Of course, they must continue

1:17:13

to provide medical care to people, but

1:17:16

they should strike in the sense of making public statements

1:17:19

expressing outrage, holding meetings, because

1:17:21

they won't give anything. Right now they promise something during

1:17:24

this period, but as soon as things start

1:17:27

to die down—we'll talk now about how

1:17:29

they fake that decline—you'll get not a ruble

1:17:32

not even a kopeck. So right now we need to

1:17:34

grab hold of this government and demand that they

1:17:36

pay out. And that is exactly why I urge you

1:17:38

to subscribe. 96,000 people are watching us

1:17:40

live—subscribe to Rai

1:17:42

subscribe to Five Steps. Invite more

1:17:45

people. We have collected half a million signatures

1:17:48

so far across all platforms. We managed to get them to

1:17:51

carry it out—well, partially. They fulfilled one

1:17:54

demand. Once there are 10 million, they won't

1:17:58

be able to go anywhere. They—they will fulfill all five

1:18:02

points, including paying 20,000 rubles (about 20,000 RUB)

1:18:05

to every adult for April and May

1:18:07

Because the money exists, but they will

1:18:10

only give it out if we force them into

1:18:12

a very narrow corridor where there are only two

1:18:15

options: either you pay and preserve some

1:18:17

approval rating, or nothing

1:18:19

will be left of it. United Russia will get

1:18:22

zero votes in the vote on the

1:18:24

constitution; you'll have to

1:18:25

falsify 100% of the votes because

1:18:27

no one will vote. A mass campaign

1:18:29

is underway, this is very important, and you shouldn't, well,

1:18:32

underestimate your personal contribution to all this

1:18:34

because, well, if they do anything

1:18:37

only for themselves—well, they

1:18:40

think rationally in their own interests, they will do

1:18:42

anything. I saw a very funny video

1:18:45

that came up this week about

1:18:46

cadets—cadets, well, schoolkids

1:18:49

just kids studying at a military school

1:18:51

they got into the State Duma, went

1:18:54

into the cafeteria, looked at the prices, and were just

1:18:56

amazed at how all this works. Fourteen seconds

1:18:59

we are in the cafeteria of the State

1:19:01

Duma. Take a look at the

1:19:04

prices for the people's elected

1:19:09

representatives. That's a life, huh?

1:19:13

Gentlemen, I mean, the Speaker of the State Duma

1:19:17

Volodin and the other deputies have built for themselves

1:19:18

a little paradise, but when they are asked

1:19:21

the question, guys, let's

1:19:23

give our people money like they do in the U.S.—it

1:19:27

just twists them up when they hear that in Europe they give it, in

1:19:29

the U.S. they give it, they give it everywhere—they really

1:19:31

can't stand it, and they start inventing some

1:19:33

completely absurd arguments. When

1:19:35

Volodin was told, give like in the U.S., he

1:19:37

just starts saying, well, what do you mean, like in

1:19:38

the U.S.? Do you know that there, supposedly, you need

1:19:40

to pay $72,000 to be put on a

1:19:43

ventilator? I mean, he just makes up

1:19:45

whatever nonsense comes to mind just to explain why

1:19:47

they shouldn't pay, because if you ask him

1:19:50

why a salad there costs

1:19:52

12 rubles, he'll find an equally

1:19:55

plausible explanation, make something

1:19:58

up—and here he'll just as easily lie

1:20:00

about why there's no need to pay. Let's watch 40 seconds

1:20:03

and when we are talking, among other things, about

1:20:07

providing citizens in these countries with

1:20:09

financial assistance, my friends, we must

1:20:12

admit that financial assistance should

1:20:14

solve a specific problem for people. In the

1:20:17

United States of America, the problem

1:20:20

is

1:20:22

today the accessibility of

1:20:25

medical treatment, accessibility of, if you

1:20:29

like, those same machines

1:20:31

for artificial lung ventilation (ventilators)

1:20:33

staying on those machines for two weeks

1:20:36

costs $72,000, while

1:20:40

citizens are being given

1:20:42

$1,000 each, you understand? He just completely

1:20:45

pulled that number out of thin air. I mean,

1:20:47

of course in America no one was denied access to

1:20:49

a ventilator until they took

1:20:51

$72,000 from every homeless person, and in return gave them $1,000

1:20:54

—he's just making it up. But the real

1:20:57

situation of Russia's residents is explained to Volodin and to all

1:21:01

of us by Yana Khanova from

1:21:04

Angarsk. I saw this video, and we

1:21:07

published it on May 9, and May 9 is

1:21:09

a holiday—great, truly a great

1:21:11

holiday—and all the endless officials

1:21:13

keep talking about how our grandfathers and

1:21:16

great-grandfathers died so that, well, and then

1:21:19

comes the usual list: so there would be peaceful skies

1:21:21

over our heads, so that the fascist

1:21:23

plague, and so on and so forth

1:21:25

and among other things, they said, so that

1:21:27

people could live decently. And it's very

1:21:30

important to realize, damn it, that these things are also

1:21:34

connected: that in 2020, in Russia,

1:21:38

there really are people who

1:21:40

record video appeals saying that

1:21:42

they have nothing to eat, and that this too is somehow

1:21:44

This has to do with the fact that our grandfathers died so that

1:21:47

videos like the one I’m about to show you

1:21:49

— 1 minute 37 seconds long — simply would not

1:21:52

exist. Hello, my name is Yana Khanova.

1:21:57

I’m from the city of Angarsk, Irkutsk Region.

1:22:00

Our town is small and not well known,

1:22:05

especially not in Moscow, and probably even less so

1:22:07

to Vladimir Vladimirovich, our

1:22:10

“respected,” in

1:22:13

quotation marks. The fact is that in our city

1:22:16

the situation is catastrophic.

1:22:20

Because we are in self-isolation,

1:22:24

since there is now a coronavirus pandemic,

1:22:29

I was simply forced

1:22:32

to resign from

1:22:33

my job. We have two children, and

1:22:38

we live in rented

1:22:40

housing. We have no money to pay the rent.

1:22:43

There is no money, there is nothing to eat. I am forced

1:22:47

to turn to charitable

1:22:49

foundations so they can at least help with

1:22:52

oil, pasta, buckwheat, rice, because

1:22:56

I have nothing to feed my

1:22:59

children.

1:23:01

[music]

1:23:03

And I can’t get

1:23:07

a job anywhere because everything is closed, and individual entrepreneurs

1:23:11

are selling off their

1:23:13

businesses, and things like that.

1:23:17

We will most likely soon be

1:23:20

kicked out of our rented place as well.

1:23:21

There will be nowhere to go, nothing to

1:23:25

eat, that’s all. Thank you very much.

1:23:28

Vladimir

1:23:30

Vladimirovich, 999,000 people are watching us live,

1:23:33

and of course someone will say

1:23:35

something like: well, listen, this is Yana Khanova, she

1:23:38

must have done something wrong herself. Well,

1:23:40

she should have had some job, maybe

1:23:41

something more stable, saved something up.

1:23:43

She’s an adult, after all — children, a rented

1:23:45

apartment — she should have put something aside,

1:23:47

and so on. Probably Yana Khanova

1:23:49

did something in her life — including some things

1:23:52

that didn’t work out very well, maybe somewhere she

1:23:54

was unlucky. But Yana Khanova, like everyone

1:23:56

else, damn it, lives in a country with

1:23:59

100 dollar billionaires. She

1:24:02

lives in a country with enormous amounts

1:24:04

of oil and gas, and some of that belongs to her — simply

1:24:06

by birthright, if you like. That

1:24:08

privilege belongs to Yana Khanova, to you, to

1:24:11

Sechin, to Putin, to everyone else.

1:24:14

The privilege is that some part

1:24:16

of these enormous oil and gas revenues belongs

1:24:18

to her as well. So this is not about

1:24:21

Yana Khanova buying

1:24:23

a Bentley or a yacht like Sechin or

1:24:26

Usmanov, or a huge house being built

1:24:29

by all of Putin’s relatives, friends, neighbors,

1:24:31

and former colleagues. No — she is simply saying:

1:24:34

there is no food. And so Yana Khanova should

1:24:36

be the reason for this whole push, so that

1:24:39

we can say: guys, we need to fight for people like

1:24:41

Yana Khanova. And people who

1:24:44

have been luckier — maybe you do not

1:24:46

need these thousands, but you still need

1:24:49

to stand up so that everyone gets them, because

1:24:50

that is the right policy, it is

1:24:52

social justice, and overall it is

1:24:53

the country’s development. In general, because

1:24:56

right now everyone is asking for help, and things will get worse for everyone; we

1:24:59

are sliding backward. And our “Five Steps” campaign

1:25:02

is this campaign because we want us to

1:25:05

slide backward less, at a slower pace at least,

1:25:08

and preferably

1:25:10

move forward at least a little. This

1:25:13

is very important. 999,000 people are watching live.

1:25:16

We only have a few more

1:25:18

signatures left to collect, so please

1:25:20

go and vote right now. So,

1:25:23

I see a lot of questions, such as this one from

1:25:25

Kantsler Gorchakova: “Tell us about the Khachaturyan sisters.”

1:25:27

The authorities still cannot seem to

1:25:28

leave those unfortunate girls alone, even though the fact

1:25:30

of self-defense has already been recognized, as far as I

1:25:32

understand. I saw reports in the media that their case was to

1:25:35

be reclassified — or rather, not even reclassified:

1:25:36

the Investigative Committee

1:25:38

and the prosecutor’s office acknowledged the fact that

1:25:40

they really had been subjected to abuse

1:25:43

and violence over a long

1:25:45

period of time. But nevertheless,

1:25:47

they continue to be charged with intentional

1:25:49

murder rather than killing in self-defense.

1:25:51

But I have stated my position here many times.

1:25:53

All these videos that

1:25:57

were recorded inside the family, and then all those

1:25:59

investigative reenactments — they are

1:26:00

impossible to watch. I mean, those children,

1:26:02

those unfortunate girls, were subjected

1:26:04

to years of abuse,

1:26:07

at the hands of their father, and they could

1:26:10

do absolutely nothing. They were

1:26:12

completely dependent, and of course the fact

1:26:16

that in the end they, I don’t know, started

1:26:18

stabbing him with a knife — that was the most

1:26:20

genuine self-defense, because there was

1:26:22

no other way for them to defend themselves except

1:26:26

to attack him while he was asleep.

1:26:28

Because they were small, miserable,

1:26:30

broken-down girls, and there was simply

1:26:33

a big sadistic father. In that sense, I

1:26:35

stand by what I’ve said and believe — I mean,

1:26:36

of course a lot of other things are happening now,

1:26:38

but this should not be abandoned either.

1:26:42

Mekom asks me: “Alexei, what

1:26:44

is this? Tell us about the Russian

1:26:46

ventilators — are they defective?” This is

1:26:49

truly some kind of national

1:26:51

disgrace. More than that, it is some completely

1:26:53

hellish story. Russian ventilators

1:26:56

are produced at a Rostec plant, and these

1:26:59

ventilators are in short supply everywhere.

1:27:01

And remember, I explained here in detail

1:27:03

how they were sent to America with great fanfare,

1:27:04

and then it turned out

1:27:08

that now tragic, terrible things have happened.

1:27:10

There were cases in Moscow—one person died, and in

1:27:12

St. Petersburg, I think, five people died. Because

1:27:14

these ventilators, these AIVL machines, catch fire

1:27:16

plain and simple. I mean, they

1:27:18

were defective. They’ve all been withdrawn now, they’re

1:27:19

no longer being used. And it turned out that,

1:27:22

besides that, it became clear that our

1:27:26

our

1:27:28

Rostec, whose director owns

1:27:30

an apartment worth 5 billion rubles (about $55 million) overlooking

1:27:33

Red Square, is incapable of producing

1:27:35

a lousy ventilator. It’s not exactly a very complicated

1:27:38

piece of technology, let’s be honest.

1:27:40

They said they had donated some of these AIVL machines

1:27:43

to America, and then

1:27:45

it turned out they had sold them to America.

1:27:47

Then, when it became clear that they catch fire,

1:27:49

the Americans said they would not

1:27:51

use them. And by the way, they hadn’t even

1:27:54

used them.

1:27:55

Why? Because our voltage is

1:27:57

220 volts, while in America it’s, what,

1:28:00

110 or 120. So basically,

1:28:03

they gave them something that

1:28:04

couldn’t be used—and on top of that, it catches fire.

1:28:07

I mean, this is just

1:28:09

of course—this is genuinely very embarrassing.

1:28:12

It’s very embarrassing, very shameful. And against that backdrop,

1:28:14

it’s wild to listen to all these Putin-style

1:28:17

talking points. In the first half of the program, I

1:28:19

was talking about the Great Plan

1:28:21

for genetic centers from

1:28:25

[place omitted in source] to Crimea, which will be run by Putin’s daughter.

1:28:27

What genetic centers? If you

1:28:30

can’t even produce ventilators, where there are

1:28:32

basically just pumps and tubes

1:28:34

and not much else,

1:28:36

then what are we even talking about? Right, as for what I think about canceling

1:28:39

the OGE and postponing the Unified State Exam (Russia’s national school exam), I’m not going to comment yet.

1:28:42

I need to talk to various people

1:28:44

about it first, because I’m just afraid

1:28:46

that if I jump in now with some opinion of my own,

1:28:47

I’ll just blurt something out and then you’ll laugh at me.

1:28:50

[music]

1:28:53

Ring on the way asks:

1:28:55

“Alexei, what do you think

1:28:57

about the government not making payments for

1:28:58

16-year-olds and 17-year-olds? Are they

1:29:00

children? Are they not children, or do they not eat?” Well, as I

1:29:02

already said, this is complete nonsense. It’s

1:29:04

totally unclear why: from 0 to 18, they are children.

1:29:07

By law, they are children, and therefore each of them

1:29:10

should receive 10,000 rubles (about $110). Putin

1:29:12

is simply lowballing it. Apparently they calculated that

1:29:14

if they only include the younger ones and

1:29:15

leave out the older kids, they’ll have to pay out

1:29:17

much more money otherwise, and consequently

1:29:19

Igor

1:29:22

Ivanovich Sechin and the rest of the gang will have much less to steal.

1:29:24

That’s why they’re allocating only a little.

1:29:26

So this needs to be fought for—it’s very

1:29:29

important. Right.

1:29:31

Oru asks: “Alexei, what do you think about

1:29:34

mass antibody testing of Muscovites for

1:29:36

coronavirus antibodies?”

1:29:38

As I understand it, it still won’t be

1:29:39

universal—that is, it won’t be mandatory.

1:29:41

So it’s not like what Nikita

1:29:42

Mikhalkov was afraid of, that they’d drag all of us off for

1:29:45

some kind of

1:29:46

tests and implant chips in us. No, it’s

1:29:50

selective and voluntary—you’ll be able to

1:29:52

come in and take an antibody test. Well, I, I

1:29:55

don’t know what it will actually be like, what kind of

1:29:57

tests they’ll use, whether they’ll be reliable or not. From

1:29:59

the Moscow city government, I expect anything,

1:30:01

up to and including the possibility that this will be

1:30:02

a completely fake exercise and they’ll simply steal

1:30:04

money through it. But overall, the fact that they’re

1:30:06

at least saying they will do

1:30:08

more testing is, of course, very

1:30:11

good. And we have a huge, enormous number

1:30:15

of questions about the police, because

1:30:18

basically right now the authorities are doing this thing where,

1:30:22

under cover of all this virus chaos, under

1:30:24

cover of the fact that, well, basically nothing

1:30:27

is clear—because really, nothing is clear.

1:30:29

What’s happening? Everyone is discussing how Putin

1:30:32

made a speech and said he was lifting these

1:30:36

measures, after which he handed everything over to the regions,

1:30:39

and, well, overall nothing was understandable.

1:30:41

Let’s actually take a look at Putin

1:30:43

and how he spoke and said that he

1:30:46

was stopping the extension of

1:30:47

self-isolation: “Today, May 11, the previously announced

1:30:51

period of non-working days expires.

1:30:55

“In total, starting from March 30, it

1:30:59

lasted more than six

1:31:01

weeks. This extraordinary measure

1:31:05

made it possible

1:31:06

to slow down the development

1:31:09

of the epidemic. All the measures that

1:31:11

I mentioned earlier allow us to move on to

1:31:15

the next stage of fighting the epidemic.”

1:31:19

And nobody understood what had happened. There were

1:31:22

a lot of jokes, but honestly—even I,

1:31:25

I mean, I’m a lawyer, I follow this closely,

1:31:27

I sat there watching, and then when it

1:31:29

ended, it was like: so, can we go for a walk or

1:31:31

not? Well, I can see there are more people

1:31:34

on the streets, the parking lot at the business center was packed

1:31:36

the next day, but overall

1:31:38

it was genuinely unclear. I saw a great notice

1:31:39

that people were posting

1:31:41

on Facebook. Let’s really put it up

1:31:44

and see whether it’s possible to understand what’s

1:31:46

written here. Show us,

1:31:48

please. Remove the questions from the screen

1:31:50

so I can see it. “In full accordance with

1:31:52

the president’s directive, Moscow will

1:31:53

carry out further strengthening of the suspension

1:31:55

of the introduction of quarantine measures with the preservation of the cancellation

1:31:57

of wages in the event of non-attendance

1:31:59

by company employees...” As far as I

1:32:01

understand, this isn’t a comedy bit, it isn’t

1:32:03

some kind of parody—this is actually

1:32:05

one of those real notices, and

1:32:07

it really is just incomprehensible—nobody can understand it.

1:32:10

understands what kind of regime the country is under right now, what

1:32:13

you’re allowed to do and what you’re not. Why

1:32:15

are governors making the decisions, and, well, the authorities

1:32:18

Putin isn’t exactly delegating

1:32:20

responsibility — he’s hiding from

1:32:21

responsibility. He’s sitting in a bunker, he

1:32:23

hardly sees anyone, and he wants

1:32:26

as few decisions as possible to be made

1:32:29

by him personally, because the consequences of those

1:32:31

decisions can be completely different. What if they turn out

1:32:33

bad? Better for me to do

1:32:35

nothing. In that sense, he’s no

1:32:37

Supreme Commander-in-Chief at all, just

1:32:39

a frightened old man in a bunker. Right

1:32:41

now, 100,000 people are watching live.

1:32:44

Hooray. I’m very glad, and I want to shame

1:32:47

all those who still haven’t voted

1:32:49

on Rai. So anyway,

1:32:51

out of this strange uncertainty,

1:32:55

everyone is seriously, every single day,

1:32:57

in every conversation, discussing with each

1:32:59

other that it’s unclear what’s happening with

1:33:01

this virus, the authorities have tried — you know,

1:33:04

they were handed a lemon, and from those lemons

1:33:05

they need to make lemonade, and that lemonade

1:33:07

consists of the fact that they are simultaneously

1:33:15

pushing our

1:33:18

life — certain aspects of our lives — into

1:33:21

a long-term framework, if we don’t actively

1:33:24

resist it. That means the new law on

1:33:26

elections and the new amendments to the Law on

1:33:28

Police — they’re going all in there. That

1:33:32

is, basically, the adoption of these

1:33:35

amendments to the police law — people here are

1:33:37

asking a lot about them, actually —

1:33:39

finally turns Russia into

1:33:42

a police state. Even now, in

1:33:44

fact, it already is a police

1:33:46

state, because, well, you may have

1:33:48

rights — they’re written into law — but

1:33:50

the courts will never protect you, and you

1:33:52

can’t file a complaint against anyone except in very

1:33:54

rare cases, basically, even despite

1:33:57

the fact that the law is on your side. You

1:33:59

can sue, you can at least right now

1:34:01

write that they violated such-and-such

1:34:02

provisions of the law, but you’re unlikely to win.

1:34:06

And now even formally, this, this

1:34:10

applies even less

1:34:12

to people like me, to political

1:34:15

activists, political figures, because

1:34:16

well, no laws really apply

1:34:19

to me anyway. But still, for

1:34:21

most ordinary citizens who

1:34:24

don’t get involved in politics, it was hard

1:34:26

to imagine that tomorrow the cops would simply

1:34:28

smash a car window and start

1:34:31

searching the car — what they call

1:34:33

an inspection — and you wouldn’t be able

1:34:34

to do anything. Now that’s possible.

1:34:38

Before, an ordinary citizen could hardly

1:34:41

imagine that a police officer could simply

1:34:43

— and as we can see, the police

1:34:45

have been behaving super strangely lately,

1:34:47

I mean, they’re behaving absolutely

1:34:49

absurdly, even right now while they still don’t have

1:34:52

any special powers, but nevertheless

1:34:55

again, I’m not going to show you 20 videos

1:34:58

like I did on previous

1:34:59

broadcasts, but look at this one

1:35:01

video of a man being detained. Where was it,

1:35:04

in Zelenodolsk. A man was riding on a

1:35:07

bus without a mask — look how they drag him out of

1:35:09

that bus. Good Lord, in that

1:35:11

Zelenodolsk, just yesterday absolutely everyone

1:35:14

was without masks, and still is without

1:35:15

masks, but they saw one person and had to

1:35:17

tick their boxes — look how they drag that

1:35:19

poor guy. Let’s watch. We’ve got it too, guys, well—

1:35:23

Yeah, we’ll go in a mask — no, there are tissues, well—

1:35:28

there are wet wipes, do they replace

1:35:30

masks? What? They don’t replace anything. They do, actually—

1:35:33

really. What are you doing, guys? You’re being

1:35:37

filmed — this will be shown on the internet later.

1:35:40

Why are you doing this? Last name? I’ll get out, I’ll

1:35:44

get out. Don’t touch me, I

1:35:48

will get out. A criminal, as if he’d killed

1:35:50

someone.

1:35:54

What did he do, what?

1:35:55

Please, let go. Step back, I’m telling you.

1:35:59

You—

1:36:01

They’re going to work, guys, to work.

1:36:05

The boys are going to

1:36:06

work.

1:36:09

No need — calm down. Please.

1:36:12

Put on a mask — well, they’ll buy masks now.

1:36:15

What are you doing? Come on, please.

1:36:19

Let them go. Did they kill someone or what?

1:36:22

Look.

1:36:25

I mean, they’re swine, scumbags, and fascists.

1:36:29

There are absolutely no other words for it. Go ahead and sue

1:36:32

me in your Zelenodolsk for

1:36:33

insulting government representatives while

1:36:35

on duty — they really are scumbags and

1:36:37

fascists. Over a mask, they’re wrenching his arms behind his back, and

1:36:39

he’s screaming that it hurts, and they’re dragging him off somewhere.

1:36:42

And right now they actually have no

1:36:44

grounds for this at all. And these amendments

1:36:46

that are being passed now, under cover of the

1:36:48

fact that no one is really watching

1:36:50

or paying attention and we’re all trying

1:36:52

to understand what’s happening, they’re simply

1:36:54

untieing

1:36:56

the police’s hands. I mean,

1:36:58

you could do a long legal analysis. I

1:37:00

won’t torture you with all that

1:37:01

legal mumbo-jumbo, but overall

1:37:03

the idea is that everything there is now being made

1:37:06

as vague as possible so that

1:37:09

the police have the greatest possible

1:37:12

number of grounds to do whatever they want, and

1:37:16

it’s all written in such a way that afterward you

1:37:17

won’t be able to complain, because, well,

1:37:19

for example, before, a personal

1:37:22

search — what is a personal search? A personal

1:37:24

search means they can, like,

1:37:25

stop you on the street and, generally speaking — yes, but to reach

1:37:28

into your pockets, before they needed to have

1:37:31

evidence — that is, if there is evidence that

1:37:34

you are carrying drugs, that you are a participant

1:37:36

in a crime, then this could be done. Now this

1:37:39

is being replaced with “grounds”

1:37:41

to believe, you see. So before,

1:37:44

“grounds to believe” was for checking

1:37:46

documents. But in order to then, say,

1:37:47

search a person or strip them or something

1:37:50

like that, you needed actual evidence. Now

1:37:52

that too is just “grounds.” So basically, you

1:37:55

could hardly imagine that tomorrow

1:37:57

you’d be stopped on the street and they’d start

1:37:59

going through your pockets — police officers — and you’d

1:38:01

say, “What are you doing? You have no

1:38:02

right to do that.” And usually they didn’t do it,

1:38:04

yes, we rarely came across things like

1:38:07

that. Now this will become absolutely

1:38:10

completely legal. And all under the so-called right

1:38:13

of a “personal inspection,” which can, in

1:38:15

principle, literally go as far as

1:38:18

stripping someone naked — such a harsh form of personal search.

1:38:20

It’s simply undressing a person. There will be

1:38:22

some police officers, security personnel — they will have

1:38:25

the power to do this preventively,

1:38:27

essentially without any real

1:38:29

substantial grounds for it. That is,

1:38:31

the area becomes so blurred that

1:38:34

a person can simply — well, just like this —

1:38:36

end up in the police: served in the army, went

1:38:40

into the police, and that’s it, they gave you an ID

1:38:42

and now you can stop people and simply

1:38:44

frisk them on the street,

1:38:46

and there’s nothing anyone can do against you.

1:38:48

Absolutely nothing.

1:38:49

Even

1:38:52

the requirement to identify themselves — before, well, they

1:38:56

didn’t do that before at rallies,

1:38:57

especially there: they run up, grab you, and so on.

1:38:59

Now they are allowed not to identify themselves because

1:39:01

you may refrain from identifying yourself if

1:39:04

you are supposedly in the process of

1:39:07

stopping an offense, dragging away some unfortunate person. And

1:39:10

take that bus example — you saw it: he was sitting on the bus,

1:39:12

he wasn’t wearing a mask, three idiots walked in

1:39:15

and said, “Oh, a violator.” From that moment on, they

1:39:18

are considered to be in the course of stopping

1:39:20

an offense. Or, say, at a protest,

1:39:22

everyone came to a rally, it was declared

1:39:24

“unauthorized,” there are 5,000 Rosgvardiya officers (Russia’s National Guard)

1:39:26

there, and from that moment on they are

1:39:28

in the process of stopping an offense. They

1:39:30

are not required to identify themselves to you, not

1:39:32

required to show their badge. And there, there’s

1:39:36

a separate clause stating that

1:39:37

police officers now bear no

1:39:40

responsibility — that is, it is separately

1:39:42

spelled out, you understand. I mean, in

1:39:43

principle, a police officer is not responsible

1:39:46

if he is not doing something

1:39:47

illegal — if he does something lawful, okay; if he does something

1:39:49

illegal, he bears responsibility. But now

1:39:52

this is written out separately — absurd, but

1:39:54

it is separately stated that he bears no

1:39:55

responsibility. And of course, a very

1:40:01

very telling example of all this

1:40:04

is the situation with breaking into cars.

1:40:07

Because, okay, going through someone’s

1:40:09

pockets somewhere, or stopping them to check

1:40:11

documents — but getting into

1:40:12

a car, that’s something more, right?

1:40:15

After all, a car is very much your personal

1:40:17

space. It’s a place where you

1:40:19

spend a lot of time, a place where

1:40:22

your belongings are kept,

1:40:25

a place where drugs or something else can be planted,

1:40:28

I mean, it is

1:40:30

a significant part of your property, and now

1:40:33

from a formal point of view,

1:40:34

answering the question whether any

1:40:36

police officer can simply break into

1:40:38

a car for no reason, some Interior Ministry person will tell you: no,

1:40:40

of course not, there is a closed list

1:40:42

of cases. Let’s look — I took an image from Meduza

1:40:44

with that closed list: for

1:40:47

saving citizens’ lives, for ensuring

1:40:49

citizens’ safety, for stopping

1:40:51

a crime, for checking reports of

1:40:53

a terrorist threat, for clarifying the circumstan-

1:40:55

ces of an accident, and so on, in search of

1:40:57

prohibited items, for detaining

1:40:59

suspects

1:41:00

or defendants. In other words, any police officer can easily

1:41:05

find a reason. He’ll say, “Well yes, I

1:41:09

did it to clarify the circumstances

1:41:11

of an accident,” or “I did it

1:41:13

in search of prohibited items” — got into

1:41:15

the car. And what does “get into the car” mean? It means

1:41:17

breaking it open, smashing

1:41:19

the window. You come back to your car and

1:41:23

the window is smashed, and they’re sitting there — who knows, maybe

1:41:25

they just — well, as usual, God, the cops —

1:41:28

needed somewhere warm to drink beer

1:41:30

so they wrecked the car, got inside, sat there,

1:41:32

smoked, drank beer. You come back and

1:41:36

the window is broken, the cops broke it, and

1:41:38

there’s nothing you can do. And then you’ll be left trying to

1:41:40

prove something. This is a zone of absolute, total

1:41:44

lawlessness. This needs to be talked about, and it

1:41:46

needs — sorry that I keep coming back

1:41:50

to my own point — they will revise this, whether they apply it or not,

1:41:54

only if they understand: zero votes for United Russia,

1:41:58

zero votes for United Russia, zero votes

1:42:00

for Putin. If they understand that in a country

1:42:02

of 147 million people, maybe there are a million

1:42:06

police officers and Rosgvardiya personnel who like

1:42:08

this sort of thing, and they will explain that

1:42:10

of course they won’t arbitrarily

1:42:12

break into cars just to drink beer — but if

1:42:14

140 million people, or 80 million people, not only

1:42:17

dislike it, but actively dislike it,

1:42:20

they write against it, they speak out against it,

1:42:22

they discuss it among themselves,

1:42:25

and in the monitoring system they bring Putin

1:42:27

a memo saying, “You know, Vladimir

1:42:29

Vladimirovich, on our social network

1:42:30

VKontakte, the number of negative

1:42:33

comments about the police, about this law, and

1:42:36

about you personally has increased by”

1:42:39

280,000 views. And then they won’t accept it.

1:42:43

They won’t. But as long as we stay silent, they will.

1:42:45

They will accept it. Just imagine that in

1:42:49

the situation with our police, I basically started this

1:42:51

program with the idea of protecting the police,

1:42:54

protecting all decent police officers. I don’t

1:42:56

see any contradiction here, but overall

1:42:58

our policing system—let’s

1:42:59

be honest—is just a gathering of

1:43:02

corrupt people and perverts, really,

1:43:06

and some kind of slackers, because the system

1:43:08

is so degraded that the worse you are,

1:43:11

the better your chances of rising through it.

1:43:13

You’re from Krasnoyarsk, the same city I

1:43:16

mentioned at the start of the program. Well, you

1:43:17

saw some absolutely wild cases this week.

1:43:19

Two girls, aged 17 and 18,

1:43:22

asked a police patrol crew for help.

1:43:24

They said a man had attacked them

1:43:27

and committed

1:43:29

violent acts of a sexual

1:43:30

nature against them. What happened next?

1:43:33

They were charged with an administrative offense

1:43:34

for violating

1:43:36

self-isolation rules. No joke. And only after

1:43:40

a scandal did they find the

1:43:42

attacker, and the police said they would not

1:43:45

fine these girls. Thank you very much.

1:43:48

And there were all sorts of hints that

1:43:50

the girls must have been doing something wrong,

1:43:52

or were in the wrong place at the wrong time,

1:43:55

or had broken some rule. Yes, whatever

1:43:58

16-year-old

1:43:59

and 17-year-old girls

1:44:01

do all kinds of

1:44:03

foolish things, but excuse me—

1:44:06

when they come to the police and say

1:44:08

someone committed some kind of sexual

1:44:09

violent act against them, and they’re told, “Oh yeah?

1:44:12

What were you doing out on the street? Let’s

1:44:14

fine you,” that says the entire

1:44:15

police system is completely rotten, and

1:44:18

if those officers are not fired

1:44:19

immediately, if no case is opened against them

1:44:21

for abuse of office or some other official crime,

1:44:23

instead they say, “Fine, to hell with you, since

1:44:25

the newspapers are writing about it,” says

1:44:28

the precinct chief, rolling his eyes,

1:44:30

“all right, damn it, we won’t

1:44:31

fine you.” That’s how the Russian

1:44:34

police work. And if this police force, which is already

1:44:37

completely out of control, without

1:44:40

oversight from the courts, the prosecutor’s office, or society

1:44:42

at all—if you simply remove any

1:44:45

remaining restraints, even formal ones, it will be

1:44:47

a total nightmare, and we will feel it

1:44:49

very, very soon. And people not

1:44:52

involved in politics will feel it

1:44:54

even more, because if it’s some

1:44:57

political activist, at least they’ll

1:44:58

film it, put it on YouTube somewhere,

1:45:01

and send it to me, you understand, and

1:45:04

some number of people—a million

1:45:05

people—will see that video. But with an ordinary

1:45:07

person, they’ll force him into a car, twist his arms,

1:45:10

plant anything they want on him, beat him up

1:45:13

in the street, strip-search him. A pretty woman is walking along,

1:45:17

they’ll go through her bag, paw through all her things, and then say,

1:45:19

“Well, that’s just how it is. We thought she was

1:45:21

a drug courier (someone who hides drug stashes), and we had grounds

1:45:24

to suspect that she was making a drop,”

1:45:26

and that’s it. And you won’t even be able to sue,

1:45:30

you won’t even be able to file complaints anymore, because

1:45:32

they’ll openly laugh in your face.

1:45:34

This cannot be allowed. And the only way to prevent it,

1:45:37

is by one method only, once again:

1:45:39

go after United Russia, go after

1:45:41

Putin’s approval rating. So if you have

1:45:44

some acquaintances, I don’t know,

1:45:46

who are usually the kind of

1:45:49

fun-loving people often inclined not to

1:45:52

I don’t know, well,

1:45:55

like law enforcement very much—explain to them:

1:45:57

if you vote for Putin, then

1:45:59

tomorrow this is how they’ll search you

1:46:01

on the street, this is how they’ll climb into your car.

1:46:03

That’s where we need to strike, so that all these

1:46:06

people run out and vote against

1:46:08

Putin. That’s very important. And on this topic, people

1:46:11

keep asking me a lot about the Shaman, and

1:46:14

on the one hand, I’ve probably already talked about him

1:46:17

for the third or fourth time—about the Shaman,

1:46:20

Alexander Gabyshev—in my program, and

1:46:22

the first time I laughed, the second time

1:46:24

I laughed, the third time I was kind of joking, but

1:46:27

now it’s not funny to me at all,

1:46:29

not funny at all, because

1:46:31

really, without exaggeration, the situation

1:46:35

is that there is Putin, who is

1:46:38

obsessed with all sorts of, I don’t know,

1:46:40

astrology and esotericism in general, and he

1:46:43

is genuinely, freaking panic-stricken by this

1:46:45

Shaman. By now it has become completely clear

1:46:47

that they’ve really gone after this Shaman, and they’ve

1:46:50

locked him up for 24 hours and opened a criminal case against him.

1:46:53

He’s just some guy from Yakutia (a republic in northeastern Russia)

1:46:55

recording videos, with some

1:46:57

equally strange people around him, and they are genuinely

1:46:59

afraid of them because they believe in shamans,

1:47:02

just as they believe in all these

1:47:03

other things of theirs. They all go to astrologers, they

1:47:06

have special people

1:47:09

who help protect them from

1:47:11

negative influences. I mean, really—

1:47:13

the man is sitting in a bunker. The danger

1:47:15

of coronavirus exists for everyone, for all

1:47:18

leaders on planet Earth and for ordinary

1:47:20

people too, there is a coronavirus risk, and

1:47:21

yet only in our country does the president actually

1:47:23

sit in a bunker. Well, maybe there are also

1:47:25

some crazy African

1:47:27

dictators or someone else like that who are

1:47:29

hiding away the same way, but ours is sitting in a bunker and

1:47:31

he is afraid of the Shaman, and this Shaman is constantly

1:47:34

being jailed so that he won’t march on Moscow with

1:47:37

other shamans and beat his drum, damn it,

1:47:40

because they are genuinely afraid of that

1:47:42

drum. But when they are afraid, look at how

1:47:44

There’s video showing how they stormed the place.

1:47:46

There really are people going in there with shields.

1:47:49

Some kind of special forces unit is carrying shields, I mean—

1:47:51

And this “shaman” is just, like, basically—

1:47:53

a guy, I don’t know, around 40

1:47:56

years old, short in stature.

1:48:01

frail-looking, and a whole squad is coming with shields in order

1:48:04

to arrest him.

1:48:08

Let’s watch the clip.

1:48:10

Hello.

1:48:15

Hello. Why are you violating

1:48:20

self-isolation? What do you mean, no?

1:48:24

What

1:48:26

self-isolation? What self-isolation?

1:48:28

Police ID, please. Please step away from

1:48:30

the cordon.

1:48:31

Please, come on, come on. According to

1:48:34

the federal law on the police. So you’re

1:48:36

basically driving us away now? What kind of

1:48:39

cordon is this? Cordon, cordon—move back,

1:48:41

please, to a certain distance.

1:48:43

Come on.

1:48:46

Come on. Do you understand what

1:48:51

is happening? Why?

1:49:20

That’s it.

1:49:28

It’s some absurd parody of the film

1:49:30

*Star Wars*: a village house, a cat,

1:49:32

a barking dog, and people are marching in with shields, and well—

1:49:36

this is absolute lawlessness. He was

1:49:37

detained, taken to a psychiatric hospital, and we

1:49:39

understand that in that psych ward they’ll simply

1:49:40

finish him off. We know how all this works.

1:49:43

A huge amount has been written on this subject,

1:49:45

including texts by Soviet dissidents (opponents of the Soviet regime), it’s just—

1:49:47

they start “treating” you, and after a while you turn into

1:49:50

a vegetable. That’s how

1:49:52

that very punitive psychiatry works.

1:49:54

People really like to joke about all this, about all these

1:49:56

what do you call them,

1:49:58

those sulfazine-type things, when you can no longer

1:50:01

throw someone in prison for various

1:50:03

reasons—including because, well, everyone, people

1:50:05

have been following this shaman. At first it was

1:50:07

funny, so a lot of people probably, I don’t

1:50:10

know, maybe a third of Russia’s residents know

1:50:12

about this funny thing—that Putin

1:50:14

got scared of a shaman, and they’re following this

1:50:16

situation, so jailing him seems

1:50:18

inconvenient. So instead they decided to simply

1:50:20

medicate him to death. But this is lawlessness.

1:50:23

Whatever this shaman may be like, I don’t know,

1:50:25

eccentric or not eccentric,

1:50:27

he hadn’t done anything bad to anyone, and they

1:50:30

staged a public

1:50:32

police outrage around him. Can these people

1:50:35

and their superiors be given new powers?

1:50:38

Of course not. People ask me: and the project—

1:50:41

“Scanner,” Alexei, what do you think, how

1:50:44

will the police restore public trust in themselves?

1:50:46

Well, first they need to be put in

1:50:49

conditions where they at least have to

1:50:52

want, or feel compelled, to restore trust in themselves, and

1:50:55

the only way to create such conditions is through

1:50:59

mass public discontent, when everyone

1:51:01

understands—not the rank-and-file cops, they already

1:51:03

know everyone hates them, but

1:51:05

their political bosses need to understand that

1:51:08

no one is going to vote for them.

1:51:11

In fact, reform of the Interior Ministry (MVD) and

1:51:13

attempts to make some changes in the MVD

1:51:16

only happened after one

1:51:18

of the Moscow police chiefs, Yevsyukov,

1:51:20

went and shot people—only then did everyone

1:51:24

I mean, it was no longer possible to hide

1:51:26

the fact that mid-level bosses

1:51:30

were basically just psychopaths,

1:51:31

alcoholics, and corrupt officials, and then there began

1:51:34

some kind of semblance of a purge, which

1:51:36

very quickly degenerated, and all this

1:51:38

re-certification turned into, well,

1:51:40

the same old thing: the bosses promoted their own people,

1:51:42

while honest—or at least more or less decent—people

1:51:44

were pushed out, and it became harder for them

1:51:46

to work. And the worse a person was, the

1:51:49

faster he advanced. But we need

1:51:52

precisely

1:51:53

to keep pressing this issue so that all of United Russia

1:51:57

sits there worrying that

1:52:00

they’ll get zero votes, including because of the law on

1:52:03

the police. That is very important.

1:52:07

And another important thing

1:52:10

that isn’t so easy to explain:

1:52:12

write to me about how to explain it better. I’m saying:

1:52:15

let’s be outraged. People ask, “But what’s the

1:52:18

strategy? Explain what needs to be done.”

1:52:23

Register for Smart Voting,

1:52:26

just speak out about it to your neighbors,

1:52:29

campaign, talk, mention it, write about it.

1:52:31

That’s how it works. There is no clear,

1:52:34

three-point plan for what exactly

1:52:36

needs to be done. Just don’t stay silent. You

1:52:39

interact in your ordinary life with

1:52:41

five people—well, tell each of them. That’s how

1:52:44

public opinion is built.

1:52:46

Because later, when there’s some kind of

1:52:48

poll, the person you’ve already

1:52:50

spoken to—and someone else has spoken to as well—when asked

1:52:52

“Are you outraged by the police?” he

1:52:54

will say, “Yes, I am.” “Have you heard lately

1:52:57

that people are outraged

1:52:58

by the police?” He’ll say yes—he’ll remember that I

1:53:00

spoke to him, that he heard it. “Do you think it’s possible

1:53:03

to vote for the United Russia party?” He

1:53:05

will say, “No, of course not,” because he

1:53:07

knows that people are outraged. That’s exactly how

1:53:09

it all works: through a real collapse

1:53:11

in these people’s ratings, because, well, well—

1:53:13

it really is lawlessness. One more thing: I promised not

1:53:16

to show you a million videos, but nevertheless

1:53:17

I’ll show you one.

1:53:19

In Murmansk, there’s a serviceman there, you understand—

1:53:23

this isn’t just some, you know, “shaman” type of person.

1:53:26

A serviceman from a brigade—how they

1:53:28

were put into quarantine, or rather, how they were supposed to be

1:53:30

put into quarantine, and how the authorities and

1:53:31

the police actually did it: they simply locked them in

1:53:33

a room and literally nailed the door shut. Can you

1:53:36

even imagine what that is like?

1:53:37

what is happening to servicemen, a video from

1:53:40

Murmansk. Well done to our headquarters team,

1:53:42

they're finding all of this...

1:53:46

apartment

1:53:48

number

1:53:54

what is this? Yes.

1:54:00

the door really is

1:54:05

blocked. You're locked in? What do you mean?

1:54:08

Locked in. Well, you see, they locked me in. Why?

1:54:11

Well, because they said not to go anywhere

1:54:13

not to leave. And who said that? They say

1:54:16

the brigade commander. Wow. But why? Well,

1:54:19

because apparently I was in contact with someone with coronavirus

1:54:22

or something like that.

1:54:23

you know? Yeah. The guys from Oksana's place are also

1:54:26

stuck inside, three of them.

1:54:28

What a nightmare. Listen, Yurik, and how are you

1:54:31

eating? Do you have anything to eat? Maybe

1:54:33

someone should bring you something? Yeah, Alexei

1:54:34

Popov already brought me things today, and cigarettes too.

1:54:36

He brought everything. So he opened the door for you himself?

1:54:38

Apparently not. Mishulin

1:54:40

comes around, screws it shut, unscrews it, opens it.

1:54:43

Listen, did they think about sending you to the hospital?

1:54:44

Send me? No, the hospital staff are supposed to

1:54:46

come to me themselves, you understand?

1:54:49

We called and all that. But for some reason they aren't taking it. So there are

1:54:53

two of you there? Who else is there? Ara? Ara? Wow.

1:54:56

They just locked up two people, yeah.

1:55:00

Unbelievable. And what about your temperature, do you have a

1:55:02

thermometer? No, I don't. Nobody has

1:55:04

brought me one.

1:55:05

I mean, is this normal at all? I mean,

1:55:08

it's the 21st century, the year 2020, and they've locked up some

1:55:12

people, and then what, complain to the police or something? Well,

1:55:15

because that boss there,

1:55:17

the brigade chief or whoever he is, he also very clearly

1:55:18

feels that possibility

1:55:20

for lawlessness, and of course says, yeah, just

1:55:23

lock them up. If they get hungry, they'll

1:55:26

shout loudly from the window: come

1:55:28

let us out for a smoke or something,

1:55:30

bring us something to drink. I mean, it's just

1:55:32

complete lawlessness. Can you, within the framework of

1:55:34

this lawlessness, give additional

1:55:36

powers to the police? Of course not. 102,000

1:55:38

people are watching us live.

1:55:40

I urge everyone to sign. For two, almost two hours

1:55:42

now I've been hosting this broadcast. Remember, I

1:55:45

promised you I wouldn't end it until

1:55:47

we collected 100,000 signatures.

1:55:49

But I can see that the biggest

1:55:51

number of messages coming in

1:55:53

right now are saying that it's impossible

1:55:54

to register, something's wrong there.

1:56:03

Mukhetdinov.

1:56:07

But if you can't, then tomorrow probably

1:56:10

it won't work out for us. I mean, it's clear

1:56:12

why they're doing this. They don't

1:56:13

want me, live on air... Well, it was obvious

1:56:16

that if everyone were able to sign

1:56:18

with 102,000 people watching right now, then we could, in

1:56:20

principle, in a single live broadcast

1:56:22

collect 100,000 votes. But that's

1:56:24

unpleasant for them: 100,000 people now, and

1:56:27

tomorrow another 500,000 to 600,000, maybe a million

1:56:29

will watch me there, uh, live on air

1:56:31

celebrating, I don't know, with a party popper ready, saying we've

1:56:34

collected 100,000 signatures. The authorities

1:56:36

really don't like that. But that's fine, we'll collect them

1:56:38

anyway. So, I've told you about

1:56:41

the police. That's one major

1:56:44

key area that will seriously

1:56:47

change everything that is happening in

1:56:49

Russia. The second area is elections,

1:56:53

and hardly anyone is paying much attention to that either

1:56:55

because, well, there are many other things going on, because

1:56:57

with the coronavirus, it's unclear what's happening,

1:56:59

and it was passed in a super rushed, storm-the-barricades kind of way

1:57:02

— everything was introduced there in a single day,

1:57:05

quickly, bang bang bang, and suddenly a new law on

1:57:06

elections that simply changes everything. And if

1:57:09

you ask me now — and there are many

1:57:10

questions — whether there are any real elections left at all in

1:57:12

Russia now, whether it still makes sense to go

1:57:14

to elections now — well, my answer is: I don't know,

1:57:16

guys, because I genuinely don't know. What

1:57:19

has happened now with this package of

1:57:21

amendments to election law, it

1:57:23

will change everything, both for establishment candidates and for

1:57:27

non-establishment ones, because first of all they

1:57:29

expanded these grounds

1:57:32

related to criminal cases, expanded the number of criminal

1:57:35

articles that prohibit people from

1:57:37

taking part in elections, and this is aimed

1:57:39

at elections — it's aimed precisely against

1:57:41

active people, the ones who stand out or make noise. All these

1:57:43

criminal charges of medium severity now —

1:57:45

before it was only serious crimes, now it's

1:57:47

medium-severity ones too, like for pickets, for example.

1:57:50

All those so-called extremist charges,

1:57:51

all the ones they, uh, fabricate

1:57:54

against — sorry, fabricate against everyone —

1:57:58

will now become an obstacle and a ban

1:58:01

on participating in elections. But

1:58:03

that's step number one. Step number two

1:58:06

is aimed at those who want

1:58:07

to run for office. Step number two is aimed

1:58:09

at everyone already, because now they have

1:58:12

enormously, on a colossal scale,

1:58:14

expanded electronic voting,

1:58:17

voting by mail, voting outside

1:58:20

polling stations, and this takes

1:58:23

elections completely out of the reach of any

1:58:24

kind of oversight. And honestly, I still don't understand

1:58:27

what to do about it. I mean, I don't have

1:58:29

some kind of, oh my God, now I'm going to

1:58:31

call on you to boycott elections. Of course

1:58:33

not. And it's clear that this is their response to

1:58:37

Smart Voting. By the way, register —

1:58:39

they're afraid of Smart Voting, they're

1:58:41

afraid that we'll outvote them,

1:58:52

including because

1:58:54

they falsified electronic voting.

1:58:57

And in Russia right now there is one person

1:58:59

who is a genuine victim of

1:59:02

electronic voting — a man named Roman

1:59:04

Yuneman, who was running for...

1:59:06

In a district in southern Moscow, he fell just short of victory.

1:59:10

By the way, he wasn’t even included

1:59:11

in Smart Voting. That is, well, he just—

1:59:14

because under Smart Voting’s criteria,

1:59:15

we couldn’t endorse him.

1:59:17

He was a new person; we couldn’t be

1:59:18

sure that he would perform well, and

1:59:21

so he didn’t make it into Smart Voting. But

1:59:23

nevertheless, he

1:59:25

won—the only one in all of Moscow. In

1:59:27

the main, Smart Voting got it right in 44

1:59:30

out of 45 cases. In Yunin’s case,

1:59:33

we got it wrong, but he still won, and

1:59:36

it was precisely through electronic voting that

1:59:38

several votes were stolen from him. He was short

1:59:40

by—what was it—votes. Well, “short” is not quite

1:59:44

the word: the United Russia candidate beat him by 84 votes

1:59:48

specifically because of that electronic voting.

1:59:50

This morning, Yuni Man called

1:59:51

and asked, specifically for our

1:59:52

program, to record what he thinks about

1:59:55

what’s happening, because he is, in a way,

1:59:57

the only person so far—though soon there will be many like him—

1:59:59

whose victory was genuinely

2:00:02

stolen through electronic voting.

2:00:03

Let’s listen.

2:00:05

As for pushing through

2:00:08

this electronic voting system in

2:00:10

the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament)—they’ve already pushed it through. It’s a complete nightmare.

2:00:12

First of all, the bill is a framework law, meaning

2:00:15

it now allows

2:00:16

electronic voting to be introduced in any region

2:00:18

of Russia, in any election. And most importantly,

2:00:21

the system itself is not actually regulated. That

2:00:23

is, there’s just one sentence at the federal

2:00:26

level, and everything else will be governed at the level

2:00:28

of various subordinate regulations,

2:00:30

rules issued by territorial

2:00:32

election commissions. In short,

2:00:34

they can introduce absolutely anything under the guise

2:00:36

of electronic voting. And

2:00:39

besides the fact that the system itself is opaque,

2:00:41

this electronic voting system is also

2:00:43

being used to herd public-sector employees to the polls. That

2:00:45

is, even if you held super-honest,

2:00:47

super-transparent electronic voting,

2:00:51

public-sector workers who vote would still

2:00:53

think that the authorities know

2:00:56

how they voted, and there’s no way

2:00:58

around that. It can’t be avoided, and I think

2:01:01

that’s the government’s main goal here:

2:01:04

to introduce, that is, to introduce a new

2:01:05

tool for coercing public-sector employees,

2:01:07

because their ratings are falling. And this is one

2:01:10

of their

2:01:12

latest innovations, because how else

2:01:15

do you force people to vote for the party

2:01:17

of power, even against their own will?

2:01:20

And despite the fact that this is truly

2:01:22

an absolute horror, I believe we still

2:01:24

need to keep participating in elections and

2:01:27

keep fighting. That means we need even

2:01:28

more independent candidates, and we need

2:01:32

to fight, including against electronic

2:01:33

voting. Our team is

2:01:35

working on plans for how at least

2:01:38

to reduce the harm caused by this rollout

2:01:41

of electronic voting in

2:01:44

elections. Now, take note: Niman

2:01:46

said something important that doesn’t immediately

2:01:48

occur to you—and it didn’t occur to me right away either,

2:01:50

for that matter—because

2:01:51

when you hear “electronic voting,” you immediately

2:01:53

think of fraud. And we understand

2:01:55

that it’s rigged, because it was we,

2:01:57

the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation), who published the full list of people

2:02:00

who took part in Moscow’s

2:02:02

electronic voting, including in

2:02:04

Niman’s district, even though we had no way of obtaining it.

2:02:05

It was simply actually sent to him

2:02:07

anonymously—basically by people from

2:02:09

inside the system. And if it can be obtained, then

2:02:12

it included surnames, first names, patronymics, and phone numbers

2:02:14

of all those people. I mean, this is just

2:02:16

unthinkable. It shows that

2:02:18

the system is completely full of holes. And I immediately

2:02:20

think about fraud. But here’s a very

2:02:22

important point: look, when a person is

2:02:25

a public-sector employee—say, someone from

2:02:28

a municipal service, or city hall, or whoever—

2:02:31

we have huge numbers of public-sector workers.

2:02:32

Any state-owned enterprise,

2:02:33

something like Rosneft (a major Russian state oil company), an enterprise

2:02:35

owned by Rostec (a Russian state defense and technology conglomerate), a town-forming major factory—

2:02:37

and everyone is told: right, folks, we’re voting electronically.

2:02:40

Come and vote. And

2:02:43

the workers say, “So, is it secret?” And they’re

2:02:47

told, “It’s secret.” But then you come in, you enter

2:02:50

some system, type in your surname, and

2:02:54

tick a box for or against. And

2:02:56

you understand perfectly well that it’s not secret at all. At the same time,

2:02:59

as far as we understand, it actually is

2:03:01

secret, but the authorities don’t say anything outright—

2:03:03

they just sort of wink, and the

2:03:06

public-sector employee thinks: to hell with it,

2:03:08

why get involved, because they’ll probably

2:03:12

see how I voted, and my factory director

2:03:15

or shop supervisor will see that I

2:03:17

voted against United Russia, and then

2:03:19

something bad will happen to me. That’s

2:03:21

what this whole strategy is counting on: that

2:03:24

public-sector workers—and people in general—

2:03:27

become paranoid and see

2:03:29

some kind of threat everywhere. In principle, yes, whatever—

2:03:30

so you voted against United Russia,

2:03:32

what’s going to happen to you, even if you’re a public-sector employee?

2:03:34

Nothing. I mean, really, nothing

2:03:36

will happen to you. That’s been tested many times.

2:03:39

But you still think: what if? What if they see?

2:03:43

We have huge numbers of people who

2:03:45

go into a voting booth, behind the

2:03:47

curtain, and believe that everywhere

2:03:49

there are hidden cameras installed

2:03:52

recording who they voted for.

2:03:54

Can you imagine what people will think

2:03:56

when they vote electronically?

2:03:57

That of course everyone knows everything, and they will

2:03:59

vote the way they’re supposed to. That is the most important thing.

2:04:02

thing, but besides that

2:04:04

candidate registration there will be made much more

2:04:07

difficult. Well, you remember that everyone

2:04:08

for example, in Moscow and definitely in the regions

2:04:10

is also being barred. They say, "You have

2:04:11

forged signatures," because there

2:04:14

the number of supposedly invalid signatures

2:04:15

can be very small, no more than 10%.

2:04:18

Now it's 5%, plus there are also technical details

2:04:22

I won't bore you with, but the actual preparation

2:04:25

of signature sheets is very complicated. I mean,

2:04:27

before, a voter had to write the date in their own

2:04:29

hand and sign; now

2:04:31

they have to write their surname by hand. So

2:04:33

those of you who have collected signatures know that, well,

2:04:35

good Lord, you go door to door, and there are

2:04:37

elderly people sitting there. They don't want to write anything,

2:04:39

they can't write anything. And then they'll write it

2:04:40

all crooked like this, and you've ruined the whole signature

2:04:43

sheet. So that

2:04:44

is, that's it.

2:04:46

This will drastically change, in general,

2:04:49

the whole structure of elections. And Ivan, read

2:04:52

what the director of FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation) wrote about this

2:04:54

in a detailed post. All representatives of the

2:04:58

election observer community are there

2:04:59

just in shock, writing about it. But as of today,

2:05:02

for now, you and I are proceeding from the assumption

2:05:05

that in any case, uh, elections are our

2:05:08

chance to crush United Russia. Elections are

2:05:11

our chance not to vote for Putin under any

2:05:13

circumstances, and in general to put political pressure on

2:05:15

them. So for now we are

2:05:17

registering for Smart Voting

2:05:19

because it is the simplest and most

2:05:22

effective way to beat them, and we will

2:05:23

keep doing it. But overall, we will make

2:05:27

a decision each time based on the specific case. In

2:05:30

general, I mean, overall, it's logical:

2:05:32

just think about it. They are really doing this

2:05:33

against Smart Voting. That means we need to

2:05:35

keep registering for Smart

2:05:37

Voting, and then we'll act according to

2:05:39

the situation. But the main thing is, all of this is

2:05:41

sad, what's happening. And even without

2:05:43

any polls, we can see that both Putin and

2:05:46

the authorities understand that in fair elections

2:05:49

or even relatively fair elections, they

2:05:52

would lose, and that defeat is inevitable.

2:05:55

That is exactly why they are doing all this.

2:05:57

So let's be angered by what is happening

2:06:00

but in some sense also

2:06:06

encouraged. I'll take a couple of questions.

2:06:09

So, Kiryunya Krasavchik asks:

2:06:12

how is the new hospital in Moscow? There were photos from

2:06:14

the construction site. But how many patients are there now?

2:06:15

Actually, that's an excellent question. So,

2:06:17

this was the hospital that Sobyanin wanted

2:06:20

to build quickly, like in China, but so far

2:06:22

there's no sign that anything there is actually

2:06:24

treating anyone. Alexei, what do you think about

2:06:27

the St. George ribbons that were hung

2:06:29

in all the apartment building entrances? Well, what do I think?

2:06:30

It's some kind of showboating. Really, just

2:06:32

some incomprehensible, pointless

2:06:33

display. They'd be better off handing out masks

2:06:35

in every entrance. Speaking of falsifications

2:06:38

that are now being used in elections

2:06:40

and, in general, programs of falsification and

2:06:43

lies,

2:06:45

right now the main political process

2:06:47

actually underway in Russia—I've talked about the police,

2:06:49

I've talked about changing elections, but the main

2:06:51

political process that is going on, and

2:06:54

which will affect what the authorities will

2:06:58

do during the vote on

2:07:00

the Constitution and during elections, is very important

2:07:03

to understand. It is a game—a game with mortality.

2:07:06

What is happening right now is

2:07:09

enormous.

2:07:22

Well, they are clearly

2:07:26

manipulating things in a very complicated way. Because these are

2:07:28

people who have physically died, this is physically

2:07:31

rising mortality, and I

2:07:33

had assumed they wouldn't shift it

2:07:35

into different categories—but that is exactly what they

2:07:37

are doing now. And well, we are simply

2:07:40

seeing a huge scandal unfolding right now

2:07:43

already of an international nature, because

2:07:45

it all began when the newspaper Financial

2:07:48

Times and

2:07:49

the newspaper The New York Times published

2:07:52

major investigative articles, and

2:07:54

they wrote that in Russia the authorities are falsifying

2:07:57

mortality data, and that mortality in

2:07:59

practice is at least 70% higher than

2:08:02

what the official data says. This

2:08:04

concerns everyone, it concerns

2:08:05

foreigners, it concerns the whole world.

2:08:07

It's not a matter of saying, "This concerns us

2:08:08

so back off, foreigners." All the data on

2:08:11

infection rates, mortality, and

2:08:13

fatality percentages are extremely

2:08:15

important for the whole world, because nobody

2:08:18

understands a damn thing, really, about what

2:08:20

to do. There is some Swedish model,

2:08:22

an Indian one, a Chinese one, a European one, and

2:08:26

there is some kind of Russian model where

2:08:28

it's completely unclear what is happening—some kind of chaos.

2:08:30

Maybe there is self-isolation, maybe there isn't; well,

2:08:32

some general carelessness, which is also

2:08:34

a model. And in principle, it is in the interests of

2:08:37

humanity, for the future, to find out how

2:08:40

a model based on enormous negligence

2:08:43

worked—and I almost used a swear word—

2:08:46

let's say, with mass deception. But for that

2:08:49

with mass deception regarding, say,

2:08:52

infection rates. But simply no one

2:08:53

expected that they would manipulate

2:08:55

mortality figures like this. And now, of course, it is important

2:08:58

for everyone, and for us, to know what the real

2:09:01

death toll from the disease is.

2:09:03

And we are seeing astonishing things

2:09:06

happening with the statistics now, after

2:09:08

Putin declared that, well,

2:09:09

we are letting everyone out here,

2:09:11

that we are starting to ease the measures, that

2:09:14

overall, we have supposedly reached a turning point.

2:09:17

The charts have simply flatlined, of course.

2:09:19

The funniest thing is happening in Krasnodar

2:09:21

Krai, which, as we know, is basically run by

2:09:23

crooks and bandits, and that’s where the most ridiculous

2:09:26

chart is. Please show it to us.

2:09:27

Krasnodar Krai. Well, you see,

2:09:29

it was just going up and up and up, and then

2:09:31

bam—97 people, and it doesn’t grow anymore, and

2:09:34

Krasnodar Krai just reports the same thing every day

2:09:37

showing exactly the same statistics, and

2:09:39

Leonid Volkov even started some kind of

2:09:42

flash mob on Twitter; he writes a lot about

2:09:45

this. And from a mathematical

2:09:47

point of view, he examines all of it

2:09:49

and is now basically making bets:

2:09:52

What number will Krasnodar

2:09:54

Krai, Kursk Oblast, and other

2:09:58

regions report tomorrow? You see, Kursk Oblast too

2:09:59

is the same, because they were told: no more than

2:10:01

100, and definitely don’t increase it, so they give

2:10:04

literally the same number every day, and it’s very

2:10:06

funny. In Kabardino-Balkaria, it’s even

2:10:09

started going down, even though from the hospitals we can see

2:10:11

that things are nothing like that. In any

2:10:13

case, from the standpoint of a mathematical

2:10:15

model, you can cheat—but this is just stupidly

2:10:17

writing down the same number over and over. It’s like that same

2:10:19

Volodin I showed you before

2:10:21

when he won in Saratov Oblast:

2:10:23

at every polling station he had

2:10:26

62.2%. And the mathematical model

2:10:28

shows that the probability of that is about one in a billion

2:10:30

that it would turn out that way. Same thing here.

2:10:32

It’s impossible that in the enormous

2:10:35

Krasnodar Krai—if I’m not mistaken, the third or

2:10:37

fourth most populous federal subject

2:10:40

of the Russian Federation—there would constantly be one

2:10:42

and the same number. Impossible, impossible.

2:10:45

It’s impossible that in Moscow Oblast the governor,

2:10:47

Vorobyov, came out and said, “Our infection rate is

2:10:49

going down,” and from that moment on

2:10:52

if we look at the Moscow Oblast chart, it

2:10:53

just goes down. Is there a Moscow Oblast chart?

2:10:55

Show it. You see, it goes straight down in

2:10:57

steps—down, down, down.

2:10:58

Impossible. Here’s what a real

2:11:01

chart looks like. Let’s look.

2:11:02

The Czech Republic—show us the chart for the Czech Republic.

2:11:04

You see? It varies. It jumped up,

2:11:07

then dropped down; there are different factors,

2:11:09

different numbers of tests. That looks like

2:11:12

a normal chart. But when your chart is

2:11:14

a perfectly flat shelf, that means manipulation.

2:11:17

But now, this

2:11:21

is about mortality. And we need to know what the

2:11:24

mortality is in order to understand what

2:11:26

to do with the healthcare system.

2:11:28

Look, there’s a very important video on Alliance

2:11:31

of Doctors; they released it, and there

2:11:32

the union chairman explains the difference

2:11:35

between mortality and case fatality.

2:11:37

The virus’s case fatality rate, that is,

2:11:40

the probability of dying from it—well, the virus

2:11:43

is more or less the same everywhere; there may be some

2:11:44

mutations, but it’s still one virus, and

2:11:46

therefore the case fatality rate will be roughly the same

2:11:48

everywhere. But mortality depends on

2:11:50

the healthcare system. That is,

2:11:52

it is, in principle, the overall number

2:11:54

of people who have died, and right now the authorities are simply

2:11:57

hiding that number because they want

2:11:58

to say that we’ve gotten through everything, and they want

2:12:01

to say that we have a great

2:12:02

healthcare system. In some regions this

2:12:04

looks absolutely monstrous. In Dagestan,

2:12:07

the number of doctors who have died is 27 people

2:12:12

at a minimum. We know this because there is

2:12:15

simply a list—the doctors themselves keep a list

2:12:19

of their deceased colleagues. But the official

2:12:21

figure in Dagestan is 20 people. So there

2:12:23

is just total

2:12:30

falsification going on against us, when they are

2:12:33

literally lying to us about the number of

2:12:35

infected people. And I started talking about

2:12:37

the fact that this is becoming an international scandal, so

2:12:39

well then, the newspapers The New York Times and

2:12:42

the Financial Times wrote about this,

2:12:45

including by simply citing

2:12:46

completely official figures. Today

2:12:49

a big article came out in Meduza (an independent Russian media outlet), where they

2:12:51

go into this in fairly substantial detail.

2:12:53

At this point it’s impossible

2:12:54

to deny it. And even these

2:12:56

foreign newspapers wrote it based on

2:12:57

official sources. Zakharova, my

2:13:00

favorite, threw a whole hysterical fit,

2:13:03

saying that they would send

2:13:05

special letters to the editors-in-chief,

2:13:07

complained about them to UNESCO and

2:13:09

Sportloto (a Soviet-era state lottery, used here sarcastically) and the UN, and declared that

2:13:12

they would throw all these newspapers out of Russia altogether.

2:13:14

23 seconds of Maria Zakharova first,

2:13:16

on Vladimir Solovyov’s program, where she was talking about

2:13:18

how awful these foreigners are. We

2:13:20

have prepared

2:13:22

these letters; they will be sent—they have already

2:13:26

been sent by our embassy, the embassy

2:13:30

of Russia in Britain and the embassy of Russia in

2:13:33

the United States of America, for delivery

2:13:35

to the editors-in-chief of these newspapers. We are talking

2:13:39

about the Financial Times and The New York Times,

2:13:46

respectively. Go to the

2:13:48

website and you will see such a statement, with

2:13:51

huge banners saying, “Fake News,” and what awful

2:13:54

newspapers they are for deciding to smear

2:13:56

the wonderful Russian reality. And then

2:13:59

the Moscow government department

2:14:02

comes out and says, “Ah yes, you know,

2:14:06

our statistics are structured in such a way that we

2:14:09

record as having died from coronavirus only those

2:14:12

for whom the pathologist indicated that it was

2:14:15

the primary cause of death. But there can also be

2:14:18

an alternative cause of death—those are people

2:14:20

who had coronavirus and were

2:14:22

admitted to the hospital, but died from other causes,

2:14:25

from a stroke, a heart attack, and so on. But

2:14:27

you and I know that this is the position of

2:14:29

well, the majority of doctors, in my opinion, that

2:14:31

People don’t die from the coronavirus itself; they die from

2:14:34

complications associated with the coronavirus, and

2:14:36

all those complications—even though it’s obvious

2:14:38

what the cause of death is: the person got infected

2:14:40

with the coronavirus. They had been living perfectly well with

2:14:42

that heart defect and could have lived another 20

2:14:44

years, then caught the coronavirus and died, but they

2:14:47

don’t list it that way—they write down the heart defect, and that has already

2:14:50

become clear. But the funniest thing happened

2:14:53

when

2:14:56

the dimmest governor in Russia came out—

2:14:59

Governor Beglov, the governor of the city of

2:15:01

St. Petersburg, who is

2:15:03

at the same time a disgrace to that city. He

2:15:04

came out and basically staged a session of

2:15:07

exposing everyone, live on air.

2:15:10

He went before the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly and

2:15:14

said: yes, we have such-and-such a number

2:15:16

of COVID cases and

2:15:19

deaths from COVID, and such-and-such a number

2:15:21

of people who fell ill and died from

2:15:24

community-acquired pneumonia, and that number

2:15:27

is several times higher. And everyone is sitting there watching

2:15:30

and saying: Beglov, what are you doing? You just revealed

2:15:32

a state secret—that in reality

2:15:35

the number of deaths is much higher; you’re just

2:15:38

putting them all under

2:15:41

community-acquired pneumonia. In other words,

2:15:43

the man is simultaneously falsifying

2:15:46

the data—obviously on Golikova’s orders (Tatyana Golikova, a senior Russian government official)

2:15:49

because this is being done across the whole country

2:15:50

—and at the same time he’s explaining

2:15:52

how he falsifies it. Let’s listen. Today

2:15:55

we have at our disposal a total of

2:15:59

5,925 specialized hospital beds in

2:16:02

fifteen city hospitals and two

2:16:05

federal medical centers. This

2:16:07

has allowed us to prepare for a rise in

2:16:09

coronavirus cases. As of May 12,

2:16:13

the total number of cases is 8,850 people.

2:16:17

Of them,

2:16:18

1,700 have recovered.

2:16:22

There have been 84 fatal cases.

2:16:26

58. In addition to coronavirus, we are also seeing today

2:16:29

an excess over the average rate of

2:16:31

community-acquired

2:16:33

pneumonia compared with the average

2:16:35

multi-year level. In the last

2:16:38

week, it was 5.5 times higher than average.

2:16:43

Since March 1, a total of

2:16:46

have fallen ill with community-acquired pneumonia:

2:16:49

11,223 people.

2:16:51

Recovered:

2:16:53

5

2:16:57

924. Died:

2:17:03

694. So what can one even say about

2:17:05

the official figures? All this data

2:17:07

published on the website

2:17:08

StopCoronavirus, which the official task force cites,

2:17:10

simply make no

2:17:11

sense. I mean, the guy comes out and says:

2:17:13

yes, 60 people died from COVID, and from

2:17:15

pneumonia, 700. So what kind of

2:17:18

death toll does that give you—something like

2:17:21

760 people? And that’s about 10 times higher

2:17:24

than your official figures. And that’s why we

2:17:26

all understand that the real death toll is

2:17:28

10 times higher—an order of magnitude higher, many times

2:17:30

higher. And now a huge number of

2:17:32

doctors are already writing: hello, in my hospital

2:17:34

20 people are dying a day, and you

2:17:36

say nothing is happening. And right now

2:17:39

97,000 people are watching live. I

2:17:41

understand that you have different views on this;

2:17:43

right now everyone has different views on

2:17:45

everything. In fact, nobody knows exactly what

2:17:47

to do. But the fact is that you cannot lie

2:17:51

about this, because in order

2:17:53

to understand what to do, how it works,

2:17:56

how people get infected, where they die

2:17:59

more often, what influenced it, how

2:18:01

to treat them—you need accurate data. And

2:18:04

whether you don’t believe in the coronavirus

2:18:07

or do believe in it, whether you believe in masks or

2:18:10

don’t believe in masks, and so on and so

2:18:12

forth—wherever you may fall on

2:18:13

this spectrum of attitudes toward the coronavirus,

2:18:16

in any case our basic position

2:18:18

should be that you must not lie about

2:18:20

the statistics. Because when you lie, it

2:18:24

means we will fight it

2:18:25

worse, and more people will die in the future

2:18:29

because of it.

2:18:30

And why did I say this is the most important

2:18:32

process right now? Because in a month they’ll be

2:18:36

holding their vote. They are lifting

2:18:37

this whole regime now and lying about

2:18:39

the death toll because Putin

2:18:41

needs to hold his vote on

2:18:43

the Constitution. During the constitutional vote

2:18:45

they will lie about how wonderful our

2:18:48

healthcare system is and how

2:18:50

important it is

2:18:52

to support the Constitution, because that

2:18:53

support will be good for

2:18:55

the healthcare system. They will lie

2:18:57

that we have the best

2:18:58

mortality rate in the world, according to the official data.

2:19:00

Right now, the official position

2:19:02

of our state is that

2:19:04

we’re the best—without any embarrassment they

2:19:06

say we’re the best in the world

2:19:08

because our death rate is supposedly

2:19:10

10 times lower than everyone else’s. We

2:19:12

can see that this is completely falsified. But

2:19:14

on my last program I was outraged that they

2:19:16

had hidden the mortality data for Moscow.

2:19:20

After the program, they published those

2:19:22

mortality figures. And there too, everyone

2:19:23

saw a spike; they saw that

2:19:25

mortality was much higher than in the same

2:19:27

month last year. But they

2:19:30

will lie, and they keep lying; they will

2:19:32

say that everything is wonderful, and they’ll bring out

2:19:34

that Dr. Myasnikov (Alexander Myasnikov, a Russian TV doctor) whom I

2:19:36

mention now in every program—well,

2:19:37

after all, he’s the official chief

2:19:39

information guy for all of this.

2:19:41

the coronavirus. And now he's already pushing for

2:19:43

the Constitution, and they will, and they will. Here,

2:19:46

just watch: over the next month, endlessly

2:19:48

they'll keep showing these mugs and saying

2:19:50

how important it is to vote for the Constitution

2:19:52

because it's tied to Russian

2:19:54

healthcare. Look, medicine

2:19:56

concerns absolutely everyone: me, you, our

2:20:00

children, our parents, absolutely everyone. Medicine

2:20:02

today is subordinate to local authorities, and we don't

2:20:05

have the same high, decent

2:20:08

standard of medical care everywhere. To have

2:20:11

equally accessible care everywhere across the country,

2:20:14

equally high-quality, decent

2:20:17

medical care, I believe it is necessary

2:20:20

to put this principle into the country's

2:20:25

basic law. And along with this video, in order

2:20:28

to really, well, sort of highlight

2:20:31

and create context around these

2:20:33

sellouts like this Dr. Myasnikov and

2:20:36

all the rest, here's a small excerpt from

2:20:38

Irina Shikhman's film. Probably many of

2:20:40

you have seen it, but I'll repeat it anyway

2:20:42

because it's important. She released

2:20:44

a substantial film on her channel where, where

2:20:46

doctors simply talk about how they, uh, how

2:20:49

they are forced to lie about the coronavirus,

2:20:51

to lie about low infection rates, to lie

2:20:53

about low mortality. And there she

2:20:55

says that this Dr. Myasnikov

2:20:56

while holding a government position at

2:20:58

the coronavirus information center,

2:21:00

while serving as chief physician of a state

2:21:03

hospital, being the chief loudmouth and

2:21:05

spokesman who's seemingly everywhere, he

2:21:07

charges money. And can you imagine how brazen

2:21:10

these bastards really are: for his time, we

2:21:13

journalists are supposed to pay him because

2:21:15

even though, through his official position, we've already paid him

2:21:18

to talk to journalists. Well,

2:21:20

that's how everything works. Pasha Bolokhov asks me

2:21:22

what the early lifting

2:21:24

of quarantine being carried out by the

2:21:26

government will lead to. Well, in fact,

2:21:27

what we are seeing now is a mass

2:21:29

lifting of restrictions. Well, there wasn't really any quarantine, but

2:21:32

still, I think—and I know many people don't

2:21:36

agree with this—but as I understand it, this is

2:21:38

still

2:21:39

the main view held by most scientists.

2:21:44

It is that if you, when you

2:21:46

have not reached any plateau, when

2:21:49

there is currently no sustained decline in cases,

2:21:53

lifting restrictions will lead to

2:21:56

more deaths, a greater

2:21:59

number of infections, and a heavier burden

2:22:02

on the, uh, healthcare system. This is being done

2:22:05

in order to announce these

2:22:08

elections now. I think that in the next

2:22:11

couple of weeks, Putin will announce a new

2:22:15

date for the vote on his

2:22:18

constitutional amendments. And because they need

2:22:20

to hold this vote in the summer, and in order

2:22:22

to hold it in the summer, they need to announce it

2:22:23

right now. And to announce it now, they need

2:22:26

to say that we have defeated the epidemic.

2:22:28

So now they are simply, on a mass scale,

2:22:31

switching to this so-called

2:22:32

mask regime.

2:22:34

But overall, they have more or less

2:22:37

canceled everything. Even in Moscow, just

2:22:39

look how many more people there are,

2:22:41

how many more cars there are, how many

2:22:42

more people are simply going to work. Well,

2:22:44

because now everyone is expected to go.

2:22:46

Because before, at least some people

2:22:49

—workers at state enterprises, for example—were paid

2:22:52

their salaries even while staying home. Now

2:22:53

everyone has been told they need to go. And, and

2:22:57

the only measure they adopted

2:23:00

is this mask regime, which

2:23:02

like everything our authorities do, is awful. And

2:23:05

you'd think, after two months of being in

2:23:08

this strange hell with the coronavirus, and after

2:23:11

watching all the countries of the world, with so many

2:23:13

stupid mistakes made—not just by us, but in

2:23:15

the States, in Britain, everywhere—there would by now be

2:23:18

some kind of experience. But what is happening with

2:23:20

masks in Russia is just really

2:23:23

a complete trash fire—again, chaos, theft, and

2:23:26

lawlessness, plus endless stupidity.

2:23:28

So now in Moscow

2:23:30

there is a mask regime, there are fines in Moscow,

2:23:33

they won't let you into the metro without masks, but

2:23:36

at the same time, quite recently, the chair

2:23:40

of the committee on

2:23:41

Moscow healthcare, answering a question from Maxim

2:23:45

Kruglov, head of the Yabloko faction (a liberal political party) in the

2:23:47

Moscow City Duma, was speaking on March 18,

2:23:50

not that long ago, already in the middle of all this, and said:

2:23:52

"Masks are all nonsense."

2:23:53

Let's watch. "Please tell us, after all,

2:23:55

what problems are there in the fight against

2:23:59

the coronavirus? And let me be more specific:

2:24:04

masks. That is clearly a useful

2:24:06

preventive measure. But why

2:24:08

are masks unavailable in practically every pharmacy in the city?

2:24:11

As for masks, I just want

2:24:13

to draw your attention to the fact that not everyone needs

2:24:17

to wear masks. You should also

2:24:19

take note of that. Masks are necessary

2:24:22

only for those who are in contact,

2:24:25

for medical personnel, and

2:24:28

therefore everything that is needed in

2:24:32

the pharmacies of the Health Department—they

2:24:36

have it."

2:24:38

And now they've lurched in the opposite

2:24:41

direction. Fine, they could have admitted: you know, we

2:24:43

didn't have complete information,

2:24:45

we spoke out against masks, now we've

2:24:47

introduced them. So let's buy them for everyone. I

2:24:50

already put out a piece on how they bought masks worth 400

2:24:52

million rubles of budget money. Let's buy

2:24:55

masks and hand them out for free. But no, damn it,

2:24:57

they won't let you into the metro without a mask, they won't let you into the metro

2:24:59

without gloves. Okay, fine,

2:25:02

then give them out for free, because otherwise a metro ride

2:25:05

becomes more expensive by what—60 rubles.

2:25:08

a mask properly, according to the rules. We want people

2:25:10

to wear masks, not to keep walking around

2:25:12

in the same one for a week, right? Otherwise they will

2:25:15

wear it for a week, and as is well known, a mask

2:25:17

becomes a source of infection. We do not

2:25:20

want the mask to become a source

2:25:21

of infection, so we want people

2:25:23

to use masks properly, namely

2:25:25

to change them every 3 hours, and gloves

2:25:28

to truly be single-use

2:25:29

gloves, so that no one dries them or washes them

2:25:32

with soap. So then the cost of the fare,

2:25:35

the cost of a mask for one trip,

2:25:37

the cost of a mask for a round trip is 60

2:25:39

rubles. So buy the damn masks already

2:25:42

and hand them out for free. No—just recently they were still

2:25:45

saying masks were nonsense. Now

2:25:47

they say masks are mandatory and you will be

2:25:49

fined over these masks, and as I showed here

2:25:51

in the video, people will be dragged off buses for

2:25:53

these masks. United Russia (the ruling political party), the very same

2:25:55

Metelsky, is recording little videos for us too

2:25:58

about how important these masks are. Come on, if we have

2:26:00

Metelsky, let’s watch

2:26:01

Metelsky and have a laugh, dear friends.

2:26:05

Very often on social media, in anonymous

2:26:09

Telegram channels—and not only anonymous

2:26:10

Telegram channels—they ask me, “Andrei

2:26:13

Nikolaevich, what is the proper way to wear a mask?”

2:26:16

Listen, it’s certainly an interesting question.

2:26:19

Why? Because with a mask, which

2:26:22

side should face out—this way or that way? It’s unclear

2:26:25

how exactly you’re supposed to wear

2:26:26

a mask, friends.

2:26:28

I’ll explain: you can wear a mask either way

2:26:31

because a mask serves to

2:26:34

protect our mucous membranes, the mucous membranes of our

2:26:37

nose and the lining of our mouth from

2:26:39

germs getting in there, and the mask is precisely

2:26:41

that kind of filter. But many go further

2:26:44

and say: there is a colored layer, and there is

2:26:46

a white layer. The white layer is a bit softer, the colored one

2:26:50

is stiffer, and in principle, probably

2:26:54

it would be correct

2:26:56

to wear it with the soft white layer closer to

2:26:59

the body. Well, I agree with that too, although I wear it

2:27:02

differently all the time. But the main thing

2:27:04

is probably something else: here, in this

2:27:06

mask, right here, there is a kind of

2:27:08

wire, a metal strip, and what you need to do

2:27:11

is the following: wear it like this,

2:27:14

wear it like this, but make sure that

2:27:15

this wire is on top. And you do it

2:27:18

very simply: you take the mask, put it on,

2:27:21

press it here so that air does not

2:27:23

get through, stretch it out like this, and the mask

2:27:27

is ready. I’m wearing a mask.

2:27:30

Friends, I advise you to do exactly the same.

2:27:34

Take care of yourselves, protect yourselves, absolutely.

2:27:37

Wear a mask when you are in

2:27:39

public places. And most importantly,

2:27:42

take care of yourselves—or better yet, stay

2:27:46

home. Put it on, press it down, the mask is ready. In

2:27:50

a mask, friends. This is the leader of Moscow’s United

2:27:53

Russia branch, whom we once again

2:27:55

thoroughly kicked out of the Moscow City

2:27:57

Duma, but he is still in United Russia, and

2:27:59

he really addresses Muscovites as if

2:28:01

they were imbeciles, and he flat-out refuses to hear

2:28:04

the question: dude, why should we have to buy

2:28:07

them at our own expense? Because, well, first of all,

2:28:10

you did not help anyone here when we

2:28:12

were sitting under quarantine, and you are selling

2:28:15

them in the metro. The BBC published an investigation, and

2:28:18

the masks being sold in the Moscow

2:28:19

metro, and the gloves, were procured as follows: masks

2:28:22

were bought for 1.64 rubles each, gloves

2:28:24

were bought for 4 rubles 37 kopecks, and they sell masks

2:28:28

for 30 rubles and gloves for 20 rubles, which means

2:28:30

a markup of 1,800% and 450%.

2:28:34

What are you even talking about? What are you doing, you crooks and bastards?

2:28:37

Then couldn’t you at least—well, if you

2:28:39

bought them for 1.60 rubles—maybe you could

2:28:42

sort of sell them to us, your own people,

2:28:44

our dear government, in our metro?

2:28:46

Maybe you could at least sell them to us for 2 rubles? But no,

2:28:48

not a chance—20. Who is making money off this? Who

2:28:52

is profiting from this right now, seriously?

2:28:54

There is really no conscience. But United Russia tells us,

2:28:56

“I’m wearing a mask, friends.” Yeah, we will wear masks too

2:28:59

—you buy them with your own money.

2:29:02

On Moscow newspapers, Sobyanin spends

2:29:04

far more money. The same thing is happening now

2:29:07

in all regions, in all regions there is simply

2:29:08

complete chaos around these masks.

2:29:11

The police are detaining people, everyone is outraged, and

2:29:13

without exception, in every region

2:29:16

of Russia where a mask mandate has been introduced,

2:29:18

the governor’s administration spends its

2:29:21

annual PR budget—an amount greater than what would be needed

2:29:24

to provide masks for absolutely all

2:29:26

residents. And there is not a single region, not

2:29:29

one single region in our rich country

2:29:31

where masks are given out for free. We really need to demand it.

2:29:34

We really need to demand it. Until we start

2:29:35

demanding and expressing outrage, and again,

2:29:37

forgive me, saying to United Russia, “You

2:29:40

will get zero votes,” they will give us nothing. In

2:29:42

Bashkiria (the Republic of Bashkortostan), where the local governor introduced

2:29:44

this mask

2:29:46

mandate, our headquarters published a great video today. A

2:29:49

United Russia deputy there

2:29:53

records videos in Instagram stories about

2:29:56

how outraged she is by these

2:29:58

masks—saying they have created some kind of lawless mess,

2:30:00

huge fines against people, and so on.

2:30:02

Well, there are several different stories there; I’ll

2:30:04

show them to you now. In one of them she is, so to speak,

2:30:06

all fired up

2:30:07

by people writing to her, “Well done,”

2:30:10

“Well done.” For the first time in her entire career

2:30:12

as a United Russia politician, people finally supported her,

2:30:14

and now she is all puffed up and

2:30:17

talking about how she is against the authorities. This

2:30:20

shows that even this

2:30:22

government, even those sitting there, those—well,

2:30:25

those unquestionably bad, disgusting people from

2:30:27

United Russia—there are no good ones there.

2:30:29

people. Even they are worried about it.

2:30:32

the fact that, damn it, something unclear is happening.

2:30:34

So they need to be crushed.

2:30:37

So they really just need to be

2:30:39

subjected to public shaming every single day.

2:30:41

So that every United Russia party member, like this one here,

2:30:44

this United Russia member from Bashkiria (Bashkortostan), would record videos like this.

2:30:47

Let's watch. We continue our segment on freaks

2:30:51

and deputies, and now

2:30:53

already this morning we were sent

2:30:57

the bill that we voted on.

2:30:59

I abstained from voting

2:31:01

because this bill once again

2:31:03

once again

2:31:05

imposed fines. And do you know for what? For the fact that a person

2:31:07

doesn't have a mask. And even if

2:31:09

you are walking in a park, even if you are

2:31:12

standing alone in the middle of the street and you

2:31:14

aren't wearing a mask, you will be fined.

2:31:16

... rubles under the law.

2:31:20

rubles. I'll send it along now, take a look.

2:31:24

So keep in mind that this is how things work here.

2:31:27

That is, right now we can't

2:31:30

fine people 15,000 rubles, but at least for

2:31:32

masks—carry masks with you, dear

2:31:34

friends, wear masks. Although there is absolutely no point in it.

2:31:36

We keep getting sick

2:31:39

and infecting each other; until everyone has been through it,

2:31:41

this won't end. It's a normal

2:31:42

practice. Well, and probably I will soon stop

2:31:45

being a depu... It turns out I didn't finish

2:31:46

what I was saying there. Well, I don't see any point

2:31:48

in staying there as a deputy, and so on. I

2:31:51

just want to see the reaction now,

2:31:53

what all of this will

2:31:54

look like, because in principle many

2:31:57

issues were resolved well. And, well, the question

2:32:01

again is something else: do you yourselves comply with

2:32:04

the mask regime? Many people don't comply.

2:32:06

It's all there on camera, but otherwise it

2:32:08

is as if it doesn't exist at all. People also

2:32:10

walk around without masks. You know, I'm shocked.

2:32:14

Thank you for the tremendous

2:32:16

support. I'm not going anywhere, but

2:32:20

tomorrow at the committee meeting I will raise the issue of

2:32:24

making sure that our executive

2:32:27

branch finally learns properly how to apply our

2:32:32

laws, the laws of the State Assembly, because

2:32:35

largely because of them, uh, people always blame

2:32:39

the legislative branch, because

2:32:40

the executive enforces things incorrectly,

2:32:42

vaguely, wrongly, and instead of warnings

2:32:46

immediately fines people 1,000 rubles instead of

2:32:48

warnings—straight away 15,000 rubles, and so

2:32:50

on. So this is an issue I want to

2:32:53

discuss with our leadership, with our

2:32:55

State Assembly, and I think we will probably

2:32:58

still come to some kind of common

2:33:00

conclusion so that our citizens are not punished

2:33:02

for no reason and not treated as criminals.

2:33:04

Thank you for your support.

2:33:06

Friends, see how she's talking now—practically like

2:33:09

an opposition figure, saying the authorities should actually...

2:33:11

The logic of officials... so that our—come on—

2:33:13

so that our citizens are not punished. Thank you

2:33:16

for the support, because, well, a person can feel

2:33:18

with their fingertips that Bashkiria (Bashkortostan)

2:33:20

is saying: Have you completely lost it over there?

2:33:22

Have you mixed things up? Our governor is a billionaire, and

2:33:26

he is making us buy these masks, while

2:33:28

we were out of work for two months

2:33:31

or a month and a half, and they gave us nothing. At least buy

2:33:33

some masks—for you this is genuinely a ridiculous,

2:33:36

just, well, on the scale of the country, on the scale of

2:33:38

any region, these are truly laughable

2:33:40

expenses. But they won't even provide masks unless

2:33:44

you force them to. So

2:33:47

every one of these United Russia members posts

2:33:49

their stories, puts things up, does something,

2:33:51

and you shouldn't—he posted a photo with

2:33:53

a little dog, and you shouldn't be charmed and write,

2:33:55

"What a cute dog you have." You need to

2:33:57

just go there and write: so, you

2:33:59

will never be a deputy again.

2:34:01

Because we hate you. Pay for

2:34:03

people's masks. Pay for our masks. Get

2:34:07

out of here, out of our wonderful

2:34:09

Instagram, you disgusting United Russia hack. That's what

2:34:11

everyone needs to tell them so that

2:34:13

they feel it. Then they will

2:34:14

start scrambling, then they will do something

2:34:17

for us. The funniest situation with masks,

2:34:19

of course, is with Beglov. As I already said, he is

2:34:21

the dumbest governor in Russia. And, well,

2:34:24

naturally, in the mask situation he introduced

2:34:26

a mask mandate, and three days later, speaking publicly,

2:34:29

he said that actually specialists had told him

2:34:31

that masks don't work. Let's watch. I

2:34:33

consulted many doctors. They all

2:34:36

say in one voice—academics and ordinary doctors alike—

2:34:40

that a mask does not

2:34:42

work. Well, masks don't work, but

2:34:45

we are introducing them, introducing fines. At the same time, that same

2:34:48

Beglov, when he was asked in the Legislative Assembly

2:34:52

a completely logical, normal question—

2:34:54

dear Beglov, if we have introduced

2:34:56

a mandatory mask regime, maybe we should give

2:34:59

people masks for free? What does he say? That in

2:35:01

St. Petersburg there are a lot of newcomers, so there's no need

2:35:03

to hand them out. In our city there are many people—both

2:35:07

newcomers and locals. Well, also, I don't know,

2:35:10

many come to us from other regions

2:35:12

for work and everything else. So how are we supposed to

2:35:15

hand out these masks and

2:35:17

gloves—ask for a passport and say,

2:35:20

"Are you registered?" Or not give them out

2:35:24

to anyone at all? There in the Legislative Assembly even the

2:35:27

United Russia deputies were cracking up laughing. Listen, this is

2:35:29

because Beglov is known for—well, you know,

2:35:32

in St. Petersburg everyone there is

2:35:34

hung up on these things—he was supposed to be a true Petersburger

2:35:36

both in fact and in spirit, but this guy

2:35:39

came from elsewhere; he was born in Baku, so he is

2:35:41

the very definition of an outsider to the city of

2:35:44

St. Petersburg, and then he comes out and says

2:35:46

something truly idiotic. Well then, fine—

2:35:49

do newcomers need to be given masks or not?

2:35:50

All right then, so does that mean Petersburg residents are forbidden...

2:35:53

St. Petersburg residents infecting everyone else, uh, uh.

2:35:56

A newcomer—well, if he's a newcomer because of the

2:35:59

"porebrik" (the St. Petersburg word for curb), then let him walk around without a mask.

2:36:01

What nonsense is this? If we're talking about

2:36:04

the health of all city residents, then yes, the authorities

2:36:07

should be interested in giving masks to everyone.

2:36:10

But they aren't giving out masks, and they're spouting some

2:36:11

utter nonsense about there being a large number of

2:36:14

newcomers. I mean, it's a disgrace. All those people

2:36:17

who, in the country's second-largest city, really are

2:36:19

watching some ridiculous peacock climb up onto

2:36:22

the podium and say all this to the deputies, and

2:36:25

the deputies just—well, and then in the end they all

2:36:28

applaud and go home. This government needs to be crushed.

2:36:31

By the way, the deputies

2:36:33

from the opposition in St. Petersburg—Maxim

2:36:35

Reznik—they're doing this really well.

2:36:38

Good for them.

2:36:41

And it's 10:37 p.m.

2:36:45

I've been live for more than two hours, and we still haven't

2:36:48

managed to collect, after all,

2:36:50

the votes. Even though there are still 100,000

2:36:53

viewers right now, the app—the program—isn't

2:36:56

letting people vote, unfortunately.

2:36:59

Very unfortunately. So please, right now it's

2:37:01

very important to them that during the broadcast we

2:37:03

don't reach 100,000. Still, tonight,

2:37:05

tomorrow morning—okay, we'll get there, it's

2:37:08

not a big deal. If it didn't happen during the day,

2:37:09

we'll do it in half a day, within 24 hours.

2:37:12

No problem. The main thing is to get it done. So

2:37:14

if you couldn't do it, go and vote.

2:37:16

I want to wrap up with two news items—or rather, three

2:37:20

news items. Small, small bits of news. Don't

2:37:22

be alarmed, please. They're basically from the

2:37:25

world of culture.

2:37:26

Uh, the first one made an

2:37:29

enormous impression on me. I saw the photo and

2:37:31

just stared at it open-mouthed. Please show

2:37:34

the photo. It's a miracle in

2:37:36

Novosibirsk—a miracle of beauty has happened.

2:37:39

Let's take a look.

2:37:40

And this is the local opera house, well, the

2:37:43

main architectural symbol

2:37:45

of Novosibirsk, and as you can see, it is

2:37:50

well, there you have it.

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lit up. Remember, for a while there was

2:37:56

this trend

2:37:58

among a certain kind of youth—some

2:38:00

car, a lowered ride, and

2:38:03

they liked attaching

2:38:06

a neon light underneath so it would drive along and

2:38:08

cast this neon glow onto the asphalt.

2:38:10

I mean, it genuinely looks like a shameful

2:38:12

embarrassment. This is a complete disgrace.

2:38:15

It cost

2:38:16

412 million rubles (about US$4.5 million). But the worst part is that there's

2:38:22

this head of the theater, whose last name is

2:38:24

Kekhman, a well-known sort of

2:38:26

crook, con man, some kind of corrupt operator,

2:38:28

and a local oddball too. But back when

2:38:31

people in Novosibirsk were outraged and

2:38:35

were saying, "Have you lost your minds?

2:38:37

412 million rubles for lighting up a theater?

2:38:41

You want to spend that in our

2:38:43

city?"—he literally said the following.

2:38:45

Why did I decide to bring this up at all?

2:38:48

Because back then, when there wasn't even any basis for it yet,

2:38:51

he said: "412 million rubles is not just lighting, it's

2:38:53

a unique project for us. When the

2:38:56

Guggenheim Museum was being built in Bilbao, Spain,

2:38:58

everyone said it was insane spending,

2:39:00

why was it needed? But after that, Bilbao

2:39:02

became a center of contemporary art.

2:39:04

The opera house is the dominant feature; I didn't just

2:39:07

hang something up," blah blah blah blah blah. So

2:39:08

the man is literally saying that we're going to

2:39:10

spend 412 million rubles, but it will be

2:39:13

an outstanding artistic project. It's like

2:39:16

the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao. What a

2:39:19

comparison—give me a break. And in the end he's now

2:39:22

trying to sell this to the residents

2:39:25

of Novosibirsk, saying that this

2:39:28

pathetic neon lighting

2:39:31

which is just embarrassing—seriously, in the

2:39:33

21st century, in a major city, to make

2:39:35

something that looks like a village community center (DK, a Soviet-style House of Culture), simply

2:39:37

in the center of Novosibirsk, a science city,

2:39:41

is just unbelievable. There will be elections there,

2:39:44

guys—sweep out the local administration

2:39:47

that approved all this, just sweep out

2:39:50

all those United Russia people, get rid of that

2:39:51

Kekhman, take part in smart voting.

2:39:53

Because this is a real mockery, a kind of

2:39:56

cultural humiliation, if you like.

2:39:58

They're showing us this—showing you this

2:40:00

and us too, for that matter—and saying:

2:40:02

"Look, this really is like the

2:40:05

Guggenheim Museum. It's great, this is

2:40:09

the greatness of Russian culture. On this,

2:40:11

412 million rubles is not too much to spend." And we're supposed to mumble

2:40:13

and just say, "Yes, I guess this is

2:40:15

really very beautiful, this neon

2:40:17

lighting—great. At a school disco, I had

2:40:19

pretty much the same kind of lighting

2:40:20

in the settlement of Kalinets, at Alabino Secondary

2:40:24

School, you know? Well, I don't want to

2:40:27

see this in Novosibirsk. I hope the residents

2:40:28

of Novosibirsk don't want to see it either and

2:40:30

will take the next step, namely

2:40:33

deal with all the United Russia people.

2:40:35

And the next item—also, in effect, a piece of cultural

2:40:38

news—I wanted to share at the end:

2:40:40

in the Transbaikal city of

2:40:42

Krasnokamensk, on Stroiteley Avenue,

2:40:44

there appeared

2:40:45

an inscription. Is there a photo of this inscription?

2:40:51

Can you show it closer? Anyway, it says there,

2:40:54

if I paraphrase it in words

2:40:58

I can say on air: "Putin is a penis."

2:41:00

The inscription is, let's be honest,

2:41:02

quite common.

2:41:03

Either in that form, or with the last

2:41:06

word in a much more common Russian version, and

2:41:10

frankly, we are not inclined—none of

2:41:12

none of the ordinary residents of Russia who

2:41:14

walk past ordinary fences are inclined, well,

2:41:17

kind of overestimate

2:41:20

It can appear about any person.

2:41:23

I think there are quite a lot of inscriptions like that about me in Russia too.

2:41:25

Quite a lot, but now we are living in

2:41:28

a new reality, so the head of the city of

2:41:31

Krasnokamensk has appealed to the police and the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service)

2:41:34

so that an investigation could be carried out into

2:41:37

this shocking

2:41:39

incident. But I really liked

2:41:40

the way he commented on it. So, he

2:41:43

confirmed that he had contacted the FSB and said

2:41:45

the following:

2:41:47

“The security service is handling this.”

2:41:50

SB — that’s a hashtag. I think this is simply

2:41:53

truly brilliant. You know, before, if something was written on a fence,

2:41:55

it was just written there,

2:41:57

like, well, some three-letter word

2:41:59

was written there. Now it’s a crime that has

2:42:02

its own

2:42:03

special legal classification. It’s called

2:42:06

a hashtag. This is what awaits us,

2:42:10

our amazing future, including in connection

2:42:12

with

2:42:13

all these laws and amendments to the law

2:42:16

on the police. And I want to wrap up by

2:42:21

showing what our future will really look like

2:42:24

after some time

2:42:26

if we do not

2:42:27

resist, if we stay silent.

2:42:29

Our future after some time... There is

2:42:32

a website, or rather a Twitter account,

2:42:35

called Panorama. It publishes

2:42:38

satirical news — all sorts of very

2:42:41

funny stories. I mean, they

2:42:43

make things up that are just completely

2:42:45

super-mega absurd, and everyone laughs at them. And

2:42:48

in particular, they once posted a story

2:42:51

saying that in Belgium a law had been passed

2:42:55

under which

2:42:58

the promotion of traditional

2:43:00

family values was banned. So, Belgium

2:43:03

became the first country in the world to introduce criminal

2:43:05

liability for promoting

2:43:06

traditional family values. Everyone

2:43:08

really had a laugh —

2:43:10

it was a great parody of what

2:43:14

the Russian authorities do and how

2:43:15

the Russian authorities lie about what

2:43:17

is happening in Europe. Everyone laughed, but then

2:43:21

the human rights commissioner in

2:43:22

the city of Sevastopol, an official,

2:43:25

went on television and literally

2:43:28

retold that story as if it were real.

2:43:30

“Hello. Today our guest is

2:43:32

Pavel Yuryevich Bui, the human rights commissioner

2:43:34

for Sevastopol. Our meeting today

2:43:36

today...

2:43:39

If all this were happening in Belgium,

2:43:41

you and I would already have been brought to

2:43:43

criminal liability — 5 to 7 years in prison —

2:43:46

because recently Belgium passed

2:43:48

a law banning the promotion of family

2:43:51

values. Let’s clarify once again:

2:43:54

the promotion of family values

2:43:55

is punishable by law —

2:43:57

it has been punishable by law in Belgium for

2:43:59

a week already as of now. So this

2:44:03

active pressure coming from

2:44:05

the West — they are trying to impose

2:44:08

their so-called culture on us, and

2:44:10

unfortunately many of our citizens still think

2:44:13

that yes, it is some kind of beacon, that everything there

2:44:16

is wonderful. But in fact, things are not so

2:44:19

wonderful there — quite the opposite.”

2:44:22

People who have been there, and even those who moved to

2:44:25

Germany and other European countries,

2:44:28

are coming back — they are fleeing

2:44:32

back. This is a government of idiots. It is,

2:44:35

without any doubt, a government of idiots, incapable

2:44:37

of distinguishing — well, that is, incapable

2:44:38

of understanding information at all,

2:44:40

people who read nothing,

2:44:42

know nothing. But the most dangerous thing

2:44:44

is that this ridiculous peacock of a man

2:44:47

will never take back his words. And now that he has

2:44:48

been caught out and everyone has laughed at him,

2:44:52

he will now go around with even greater fury

2:44:55

from one program to another,

2:44:58

I don’t know, maybe even to schools — this human rights commissioner

2:45:00

will keep going around and

2:45:03

telling this story even more aggressively, because

2:45:06

now he absolutely has to prove

2:45:09

that it was not fake news. Because if it was

2:45:11

fake news, then you are an idiot. And you do not

2:45:14

want to say that you are an idiot,

2:45:16

so it was not fake news but

2:45:17

a real one. Yes, he will keep going around and

2:45:20

saying it, and in the end it will turn out that this

2:45:23

is how it works step by step: one person says something,

2:45:25

then someone like Zakharova (Maria Zakharova, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman) says it next,

2:45:27

then another, then a third — all of them, this United

2:45:29

Russia crowd, this gathering of thieves and fools, they

2:45:31

say absurd things, lie, and

2:45:34

on top of those lies another floor of

2:45:38

our state gets built. But how long can all this

2:45:41

stand on this foundation of lies,

2:45:44

and will it be comfortable for us to live in it?

2:45:45

Absolutely not. So in any

2:45:47

case, since we are living in this,

2:45:50

we must not stay silent, we must not be afraid, and we

2:45:53

must not just sit around — we need to do

2:45:56

something, at least sign up somewhere, at least

2:45:58

spread information,

2:45:59

register for Smart Voting,

2:46:01

fight Putin and United Russia.

2:46:04

Thank you very much to everyone who watched, and everyone

2:46:06

who has not yet been able to vote, please

2:46:08

vote both on the RAI website and on the

2:46:11

Five Steps website — it is very important.

2:46:13

And no one will give us money, including from

2:46:16

the budget, unless we ourselves wrench it away from this

2:46:19

government. Thank you, see you next

2:46:21

Thursday. Bye.

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