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Good evening, everyone. It is exactly 8:00 p.m. in Moscow.

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That means we are live on air

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with the program *Russia of the Future*, and I am Alexei

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Navalny — or, as a man with blood on his hands

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called me this week by State Duma deputy

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Milonov of United Russia. You know him,

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that wonderful specimen.

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I missed you all very much. It is a shame, of course, that I

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was not able

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to comment on these remarkable

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events that have been unfolding over the last

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ten days. In previous broadcasts, I

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saw various funny comments saying that I

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left because I got scared

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of the changes in the country,

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scared of Mishustin’s new government.

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That is not true. I am not afraid of Mishustin. We

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are now going to try to discuss everything

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in detail. Please send your questions with

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the hashtag #RussiaOfTheFuture on Twitter, and they

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will be shown to me here. I will try

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to answer them. Our last broadcast —

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well, I mean during those events late

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last year, when they were once again breaking into

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our studio — I hosted the last one because of that

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from some kind of

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underground location. And now it already

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feels as if a very long time has passed.

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In fact, this is important: we have returned to

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the studio. Like phoenixes, we are once again

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trying to rebuild ourselves, and here your

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help is of crucial importance.

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an improved system for collecting

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have come up with various things. We are trying

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for everyone else who does streams — something that

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our previous system, our business

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system for collecting donations, was shut down for us.

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There are various little features there, ducks swimming around,

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Medvedev can say something — in general,

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it is all quite fun. So please at least try

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it, if only just to test

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this donation system — use it.

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I will keep reminding you about it during

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the broadcast. Send in your questions, but of course

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the main thing, the one question I have been flooded with,

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the question that keeps coming in from everywhere,

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the one everyone is asking, is this:

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As I was coming back from vacation, people were literally

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coming up to me at the airport and asking:

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what on earth is going on with all these

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strange events — the resignation

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of the government and Putin’s statement about

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changing the Constitution?

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What changes, exactly?

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What are they even doing? What is all this for?

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Why are they doing these strange things? Because right now,

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when you follow the news feed, all of this

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really looks insane. And most importantly,

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there seems to be no logic in it at all. I mean,

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it is just a series of strange and

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incomprehensible things. What is happening?

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The correct conclusion is that

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in fact, nobody knows what

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is happening. Putin probably has a rough

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idea of what he wants

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to achieve, but now, already 10

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days after all these changes began,

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I am absolutely convinced that

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he does not have a precise plan either, because

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right now all sources — whether

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analytical articles or simply people

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who are inside the system, insiders —

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are saying that nobody knew about this.

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Medvedev also learned of his fate only the day before.

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The broad circle of people who are now

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joyfully shouting, “Hooray, a new government!”

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“This is great, let us hurry up and change

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the Constitution!” — they also knew nothing about it

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and are now simply shocked,

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just pressing the button, so to speak.

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So the question of why, of what exactly Putin has done, is not

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clear. What he is doing is alarming and extraordinary,

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and not entirely understandable. But why he

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is doing it seems fairly clear to me.

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That is where I want to begin the program. In order

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to understand why Putin is doing these

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strange things — first and foremost, changing

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the Constitution — for him this is a very, very

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significant step, because one of the

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narratives he repeated

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consistently and constantly throughout

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all of his presidential terms was that

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he would never change

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the Constitution. For him, the Constitution

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was a sacred cow.

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Russia’s Constitution is the framework

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of a super-presidential republic. He likes it

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very much. For him, it is excellent,

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great. And starting in 2002,

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let us listen: he says that

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we are not going to change the Constitution.

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“But even now I can say that I am against

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anyone, no matter who they may be and no matter what

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good intentions they may

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be guided by, violating the Constitution

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of our country.” That was in 2002. In 2004,

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Putin said that as soon as we start

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amending the Constitution — here is his quote —

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“that is already the path toward some kind of unstable

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situation. Once we start amending it, we will not

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be able to stop.” Prophetic words, by the way.

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Let us continue. In 2005, he said

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that the main element in

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state-building is

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stability, and stability can be

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guaranteed only by the Constitution. Again,

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the Constitution is a sacred cow. In

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2017, perhaps my favorite

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statement by Putin was the one where he said that

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when someone advises changing

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the Constitution — then the British, after the whole

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Litvinenko affair (the poisoning of former Russian security officer Alexander Litvinenko in London), said that he

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Maybe in Russia they need to back off.

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As Duma member Tumanovsky said, change yourselves.

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In 2007, to other countries

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they were making demands of us as well,

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setting some kind of excessive expectations, and

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also giving, in my view, insulting

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advice for our country and our people

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to change the Constitution. They need to change their brains

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instead of changing our Constitution.

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You see how tough and uncompromising that sounds.

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They need to change their brains. I mean, this is

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a man speaking who understands that he

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is not going to change the Constitution. He is perfectly

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capable of serving four terms, and then another

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four terms. He is completely satisfied with everything,

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he controls everything, and he does not

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want to change anything. In 2000

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or rather a little later, in

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2010, he explains that, generally speaking, he could

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change the Constitution, but under no

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circumstances will he do that. Let's

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listen.

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If I believed that

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a totalitarian or authoritarian system

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was the most

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preferable for us, I would simply have changed

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the Constitution. As you understand, that would have been

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easy to do. It would not even require

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any kind of nationwide vote. It

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would have been enough to push that decision through

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parliament, where we had a majority

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of votes.

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After all, when a person says something like that,

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it is clear that this is what he has in mind

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all along. But he is not going

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to do it. Two weeks before his

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most recent presidential election, Putin

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again came out and firmly declared that

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he would not change the Constitution. I have never

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changed constitutions, and certainly not

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to suit myself, and I have no such plans

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as of today.

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This man lies constantly, obviously.

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He lies constantly, and throughout all his 20 years

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in the office of president, in the position

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of the country's leader, he is, secondarily,

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stealing—but first and foremost, when it comes

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to the Constitution, he spoke so

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consistently and for so long

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that, still, it seems to me that until

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the very last moment, he did not have

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some kind of grand master plan

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to replace the Constitution. Nevertheless, everything

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ended up moving in that direction.

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As the great prophet Vladimir

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Volfovich Zhirinovsky said a couple of years ago,

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he said something that everyone

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laughed at and said, there goes Zhirinovsky again,

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spouting nonsense. But let's

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listen. One year he said that what Putin is building now is this:

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there will be nothing at all,

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no elections, only a State Council.

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Zhirinovsky, with prophetic words: in

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six years, you know, there will be no elections

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at all.

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Come on now, I say—young lady, look at me—

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as for elections, there will be no more

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elections. The last presidential election has already happened,

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and they are tired of staging this whole charade. There will be

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a State Council, a collective body where

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the chairman of the State Council, with the powers

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of a president, will be chosen at a meeting

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of the State Council.

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It will be formed from the best

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governors, supposedly the best

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ministers, the apparatus, deputies—all 340 of them

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will sit in St. George's Hall

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in the Kremlin. At some point there was a last election, and

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after that, it will no longer be needed.

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That's it. He will be there for life. We will

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preserve him as best we can. They removed

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the two-term limit.

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Asia—we are Asia.

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So why did this happen after all? It

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is happening—the answer to that question, again,

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is just my assumption, which

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simply follows from my understanding

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of politics, but I am sure that this is how it is.

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In fact, everything being discussed right now

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is purely guesswork or analysis

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just like what I am offering now, because

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whoever may claim to have

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precise knowledge about it—I am absolutely sure

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that he is lying. No one except Putin

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knows exactly what is happening. But

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why is it happening? It is happening

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for roughly the same reason that I, on these

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broadcasts, do not tell you about my

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plans, because you are constantly

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writing to me and asking me, Alexei, what is

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your plan? What are we going to do in connection with

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the elections? And what are we going to do with

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the voting? I can see these questions coming in—

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people saying, well, what about the vote?

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What are we going to do? Explain

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what the plan is. And just understand: with Putin

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it is exactly the same, only 10,000 or

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a million times more intense. Everyone around him wants

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to get some clarity. Just imagine

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a thought experiment: here sits

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Rotenberg, here sits Timchenko, here

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sit Kostin and all the others,

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all these crooks; here sits Alina Kabaeva, here sit

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his children, Putin's people—and all of them, basically,

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are asking: Vladimir Vladimirovich,

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Volodya (a familiar diminutive of Vladimir),

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tell us, by 2024,

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what will you be? Will you remain president?

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Very important things depend on that. I mean,

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people are stealing billions, and to

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steal billions you need long-term

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projects. But he does not

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understand whether it makes sense to get involved in

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building another branch

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of a gas pipeline, or whether new people will come later,

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Medvedev's people, and squeeze you out because

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Putin is no longer president, and starting some kind of

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a gigantic mega-construction project, or rather

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to sell off your assets and move them abroad

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that takes time, it requires

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administration, it requires

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years, months, during which all of this will

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be spent on it all, but you also want to have some

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understanding, and if you don’t understand it, if you have no

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grasp of it, then there are rumors here—what is

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the government apparatus, the presidential administration

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these are people who are constantly in the

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back corridors, discussing things, lying or

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retelling the truth to one another, and they

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say that the boss has gone crazy, that he’s interested

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only in international politics, and

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it’s unclear who—well, who will replace him

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in 2024, so maybe

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we should be friendlier with Medvedev

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or maybe, perhaps, Sobyanin seems more likely

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maybe Sobyanin will be the next president

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so let’s be friendlier with Sobyanin

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and some new coalitions start to emerge

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new tandems—and Putin understands this perfectly well

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he knows this whole crowd, and for him this

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this uncertainty within the apparatus

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is destructive; people simply won’t

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do anything

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they won’t obey you, they won’t

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take you seriously if they don’t

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understand what your plan is. That’s why I

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am convinced that the main idea behind what

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is happening now is very poorly

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thought through; internally, nothing has been

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thought through at all. There was simply a need

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objectively to send a signal—not to us, but

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to his own people: guys, don’t twitch, I’m

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staying in power and I will be a president for life

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therefore you don’t need to

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invent anything, you don’t need to try to

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look for other people, you don’t need to

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think about politics at all, about anything

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I’m staying

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and I’ll stay until the end, because the only thing

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that is clear from what they announced is

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that the guy really wants to remain

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until the end by means of some kind of arrangement

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that is unclear and strange—whether it will be

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the State Council—beyond that, nothing at all is

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clear, and obviously nothing has been thought through

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at all, because there are simply

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some ridiculous things there, with that same

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whole process of amendments to the

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Constitution. It’s obvious that this is

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absolutely unprepared. Putin said

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one set of things—let’s listen, one minute

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17 seconds—here is what Putin said

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the first sensational statement as part of

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his address to the Federal Assembly (Russia’s parliament), but all

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of that was one thing, while the amendments are now

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already going in a somewhat different direction. Let’s listen

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to what he said: “I believe the time has come

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to introduce into the country’s law, into the fundamental law

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of the country, certain changes that directly

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guarantee the priority of Russia’s Constitution

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in our legal space. I propose

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to change this procedure and entrust

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the State Duma not simply with

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agreeing to and approving the candidacy

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of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian

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Federation

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but then, upon his nomination, upon the

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nomination of the Chairman of the Government,

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all deputy prime ministers and federal

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ministers. I propose, at the constitutional

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level, to establish

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mandatory requirements for persons who

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hold positions critically important for

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ensuring the security and sovereignty

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of the country: they may not have foreign

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citizenship, a residence permit, or any other

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document that allows permanent

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residence in the territory of another

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state.”

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[applause]

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“Even stricter requirements should

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apply to persons seeking

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the office of President of the Russian

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Federation

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I propose establishing here the requirement of

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permanent residence in the territory

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of Russia for at least 25 years, as well as

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the absence of foreign citizenship or

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a residence permit in another state.”

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So, in other words, a set of rather

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strange proposals was voiced, which

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actually looked as though

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the presidency would become less influential

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while the State Duma and the Federation Council

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would gain more powers

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plus the State Council—a more complicated

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system. But now some amendments are being introduced

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that are being drafted, that have apparently already

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been written, as it turns out, and very amusingly

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a situation arose where they created some

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enormous working group on changing the

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Constitution

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into which they included some random, unremarkable

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people, and then one day later

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they presented these amendments in the name of the group

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after which bewildered people

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for example, the philanthropist Elizaveta Glinka—no, rather, someone like Olshanskaya

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even wrote on Facebook

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they invited me into this group, but then

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it turned out that in this group I know nothing

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I did nothing, and somehow there are already

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amendments appearing—we don’t know what

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is happening, and no one in this group

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knows what is happening, but they wrote

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some amendments, and first of all they do not

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really resemble what Putin originally said

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in the first place, and many of them are not even

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clear at all. For example, this

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restriction on dual citizenship—who is it

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aimed against? Against

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Khodorkovsky?

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And the 25-year residency requirement—living in Russia for 25 years

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who is that aimed against? Against

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Lukashenko, or against that same

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Khodorkovsky? Why write that into the Constitution?

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It’s unclear — I mean, this all completely

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looks as if they sat down some lawyers and

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PR people at the very last minute and said,

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"Come up with a bunch of different ideas

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that everyone will be talking about," and they

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did come up with all sorts of things. In particular,

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at first they included the idea that they would abolish

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the priority of international law. Remember,

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everyone went into an uproar and started discussing it

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endlessly, and then they seemed to backtrack a bit

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and said they weren’t going to do that

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after all. I mean, it’s just a collection

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of strange, chaotic initiatives

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that tell us that

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directly speaking,

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the actual tactic for how Putin

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gets from point A, where he is now president and

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serving his current term, to the point after his final term

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— point B, where he becomes the lifelong

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leader of Russia — is not clear to them, and they

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couldn’t discuss it in detail before

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Putin’s address, because how

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could they do that? You can’t exactly just

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hold a big meeting, gather

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lawyers, the Presidential Legal Directorate,

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some hacks from the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament),

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security people, and say, "Guys,

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I’m holding a meeting on how I can remain

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president for life so I can keep ordering everyone around

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without formally being president,

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so I can do all sorts of cool things

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that I like — I’d

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pick fights with Poland, complain that

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they deny some of our wartime victories,

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I also like sports, I’d

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keep an eye on rhythmic gymnastics,

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see what’s going on there, but at the same time I

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wouldn’t want to deal with the government

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because that’s what people criticize me for, though I’d still want

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to control the government. At the same time I

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would want to appoint all the judges, and I’d want

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to make sure no one could do anything to me,

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put me in prison under any circumstances, and that my

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friends couldn’t be jailed either. So

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let’s come up with a setup

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that would satisfy all of

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these wishes of mine." You simply can’t do that, even despite

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the fact that there is some small,

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tight circle of trusted mafiosi — maybe

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five people he could say that to —

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but even so, he can’t gather

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the Presidential Administration and the leadership

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of the Duma and openly announce this whole thing

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directly. Everyone more or less understands that he

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is aiming for this, but still, it wasn’t possible

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to prepare it in advance. So

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right now there is just some strange,

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absurd, incomprehensible mess going on, including

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on the government’s side, which

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we

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we’ll discuss. For example, there’s this very funny

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little detail with these ideas about

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not allowing people with dual citizenship

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to run in presidential elections.

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Actually, it’s a fairly

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obvious thing, yes, and no one with

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dual citizenship was really trying to run for anything anyway, so why

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is this even necessary? But today in the

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State Duma, when these very amendments

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were being presented, this

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United Russia (the ruling party) election official, a former

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prosecutor’s office employee, a pretty nasty little guy,

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a crook — but even so, he asked a fairly

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logical question. He said, "Guys, maybe

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we should use the same provision

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for the prosecutor’s office too? After all, in the

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prosecutor’s office, people with dual

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citizenship don’t work. Makes sense, right? Logically, you’d answer

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yes — but

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United Russia and the people who

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were presenting the bill practically said,

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"No, that’s not logical. Let’s not do that. In the prosecutor’s office, let

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people with dual citizenship work

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in the prosecutor’s office,

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but we don’t want such people

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for the presidency." So that tells us that

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there is basically no thought-out logic here.

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These are strange measures in which

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people just generally understand what Putin wants

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and start trying to help him achieve it,

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or fail to guess what he wants, and

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I think this is going to be a fairly long,

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drawn-out process. It’s not as if these

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constitutional amendments will be adopted now and

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that will be the end of it, because these amendments

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don’t really give Putin

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anything. Sure, they expand his

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powers,

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but they do not achieve his real goal. He does not

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become a lifelong leader, and so far we do not see any

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powerful State Council. If

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this State Council has no extraordinary

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powers, then what is it even for?

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You’re not some big shot just because

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you head the State Council — it’s still not even clear what

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the State Council actually is. But I think there will be

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several iterations. That’s exactly why Putin

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started all this so far in advance — way, way in advance, in short,

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he began doing all this early because

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it takes several years

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to gradually, gradually come up with this

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arrangement, which probably

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doesn’t even exist fully in his own head yet, because

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there is no legal

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framework in which you are the top man

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but not the president, yet can order everyone around,

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commanding everybody,

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while not being responsible for anything, and at the same time

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you can involve yourself in anything — you can

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dismiss the government, remove judges

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and appoint them. This kind of

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father-of-the-nation model existed in China — there was Deng

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Xiaoping — and naturally many people immediately started

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discussing whether Putin wants to be

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a kind of Russian Deng Xiaoping,

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a father of the nation who effectively created

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the state, and then has

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successors after him — but this whole

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Stability is being maintained, but here

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there’s just one catch: Deng Xiaoping was the father

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of China’s economic miracle. He created

20:57

all of this because he performed a miracle.

21:00

Putin, on the other hand, has no miracle to show for it — quite the opposite.

21:03

Twenty years of his rule have, basically,

21:06

led, if not to collapse, then to a demonstration

21:09

of the fact that, well, nothing works. There is no

21:11

major population growth,

21:13

no super-powerful economy, none of those

21:15

cities you see in China. I’ve been there —

21:18

I don’t know, there used to be fields and geese wandering around, and now

21:21

there are cities, high-speed trains are running,

21:24

bridges have been built. None of that exists in Russia.

21:27

No — the geese walked around then, and the geese are still walking around now, and

21:30

with those geese around, it’s impossible to claim, “I am

21:32

Deng Xiaoping, and therefore I will be the father of the nation.”

21:34

That simply doesn’t work. And this

21:38

arrangement Putin wants to achieve

21:40

does not exist in nature. They

21:41

will try to create it, but

21:45

it will all turn out very strangely, just as

21:49

things are unfolding very strangely right now in

21:53

the situation with the Constitution. I’ll talk about that now.

21:55

I just want to remind you that in

21:57

the description to our video there is a link for

21:59

us — it’s very important for our new

22:01

new donation format that we

22:04

are using, which in theory should be,

22:07

we hope, somehow invulnerable, or at least less

22:11

vulnerable to those who are constantly trying to

22:13

interfere with the money flow. If we manage to make this work,

22:15

then we’ll offer this system for use

22:17

to everyone else. If you see some

22:19

little ducks crawling across the screen, that basically means

22:21

the system is working. I hope

22:23

it is working. 45,000 people are watching us

22:25

live.

22:26

So, Pasha Bulakhov is asking me: could it really be that

22:28

he didn’t inform everyone — Alexei and the rest?

22:30

The plan for 2024, I mean.

22:31

Pasha, of course not. He probably discussed this address with

22:37

two or three people,

22:39

with Kiriyenko, of course, but if you

22:41

inform everyone, then the leaks will be

22:46

massive. There were already leaks about this whole

22:48

scheme involving the State Council.

22:49

People have been writing about it for two years now, more than two years, and

22:52

they’ve been saying there would be a State Council, and as we just

22:54

heard, Zhirinovsky (a Russian nationalist politician) was talking about it

22:56

for two years, saying that soon there wouldn’t be a damn thing

22:58

like elections anymore — there would be a State Council. You

23:00

can’t take some secret little plan of yours

23:04

and suddenly discuss it with a wide

23:07

circle of people, because everyone will know.

23:08

Putin, after all, by his psychological type,

23:10

is that kind of KGB man

23:13

who likes to do things suddenly; he likes

23:15

to do things in secret so that everyone

23:18

is stunned. You know, an address like this —

23:21

usually they discuss it, but here: the government resigns,

23:24

the Constitution is being changed — it’s completely

23:25

unclear what’s going on. It’s “cool” because

23:29

everyone is shocked, and you’ve kind of changed

23:32

the agenda — changed

23:35

at least some kind of political

23:36

landscape — and, as they see it, they

23:39

are now doing a great job of mobilizing everyone

23:42

around their

23:44

constitutional changes. And that’s what

23:47

I wanted to talk about, because

23:49

it’s very important: from now until

23:53

mid-April at least, we’re facing a whole damn

23:57

hellish, perverse campaign in which

24:00

everyone will be urged

24:04

to take part in some strange — I don’t even

24:08

know what to call it — nationwide

24:09

vote that is not

24:11

a referendum, not a normal

24:13

vote, and it’s completely unclear what the hell

24:15

it’s even for.

24:17

But it will definitely happen. More than that,

24:18

today I already saw online

24:20

the first screenshots showing how the Presidential Administration

24:23

or some PR people are

24:25

already buying up ad space in advance

24:28

to flood the entire internet

24:30

Show the screenshot — from that

24:32

science site, N + 1. They’re trying

24:37

to buy some advertising there in order

24:40

to talk about how important it is to hold

24:42

this vote on changing

24:44

the Constitution. It’s a strange thing, really.

24:49

Yes, they decided to hold some kind of

24:51

nationwide vote, and Putin said this about it.

24:53

Let’s listen — eighteen

24:55

seconds — that all amendments to the Constitution

24:58

will be adopted by a nationwide

25:00

vote, given that the proposed

25:03

innovations concern substantial changes

25:05

to the political system and the functioning

25:07

of the executive, legislative,

25:09

and judicial branches, I consider it necessary

25:11

to hold a vote of the country’s citizens on

25:14

the entire package of proposed amendments to

25:17

the Constitution of the Russian Federation. In other words,

25:20

that’s how it sounded, and how was it understood

25:22

by everyone? That they would come up with some

25:24

absolutely idiotic amendments of their own,

25:27

fraudulent ones, and then they would hold, apparently,

25:30

a referendum, because amendments to

25:32

the Constitution, obviously, are supposed to be adopted

25:34

in a referendum. But this “nationwide vote” —

25:36

if you’re being this grandiose about

25:39

changing the Constitution, then you hold

25:40

a referendum and amend the Constitution. That’s how

25:45

everyone understood it, and there was no other way to understand it.

25:48

A nationwide vote is needed in order to,

25:50

well, at the very least, legitimize

25:52

a decision that has already been made, right? But also,

25:56

it seems to me that even now a huge

25:58

number of people simply haven’t realized this.

26:00

Right now, 47,000 people are watching us

26:03

live.

26:04

Tell me, guys, do you understand that these

26:08

amendments were effectively adopted today already?

26:11

Surely not all of you realize that today

26:13

the State Duma already passed them on first reading.

26:17

took these amendments that were supposedly

26:19

prepared for us by some Cossacks and

26:21

charity people—who the hell even knows who they are

26:23

some random rabble of people. They’ve already passed them

26:26

in the first reading, and the system will work like this:

26:29

first they pass them, and that’s it—like, well, there you go,

26:33

the amendments have been passed, passed.

26:34

And then there’ll be some kind of nationwide

26:38

vote

26:40

that will sort of approve it

26:43

and legitimize it, saying, like,

26:46

sure, the deputies already decided everything, but we

26:48

the people also came and voted, we’re also

26:50

in favor.

26:50

Why is this needed? What is this for? It’s

26:53

actually super stupid. Right now, people still haven’t

26:56

fully realized it yet,

26:58

but when they pass it in the second and

27:00

third readings, and all the amendments are thereby

27:02

adopted, it’ll be clear that

27:04

everything has already been decided. How are they going to convince everyone

27:07

to go to this strange vote?

27:09

What exactly will it even be? It’s really not

27:12

clear. So today, let me show you

27:15

a clip from TV Rain (an independent Russian TV channel), there a deputy

27:18

from, I think, A Just Russia or

27:20

or United Russia—Gartung—he’s in this

27:23

very group on amending the Constitution

27:26

and he was asked there: why the hell do we need

27:29

a vote if you’ve already passed everything?

27:30

He says it directly: this vote doesn’t

27:32

change anything. Let’s listen.

27:34

That is, if citizens end up

27:37

voting and 90 percent of citizens say

27:40

we’re against the amendments,

27:41

nothing happens? The amendments just go through?

27:43

Well, then Parliament will think about it,

27:46

and will probably discuss it, and the president

27:49

will think about it too, because this is the

27:51

president’s position—the president proposed it.

27:53

Let’s, before we introduce

27:55

the amendments, let’s discuss them—that is,

27:57

we won’t just immediately adopt them, and

27:59

we’ll ask citizens for their opinion. How exactly we’ll

28:02

determine that is still a question; we still don’t

28:04

have an answer yet. But this vote, which

28:07

will somehow...

28:08

But if it’s going to happen not after the first

28:09

reading, but after the amendments

28:12

have been finally adopted—is that

28:14

correct? As I understand it, there will be no legal consequences

28:16

from this vote, at least for now.

28:18

Well, you know, we have initiatives

28:21

where, say, citizens collect

28:26

signatures for some initiative, and those signatures

28:28

must be reviewed. That is,

28:31

there are no direct legal consequences from collecting

28:32

those signatures, but there are delayed consequences

28:35

in any case.

28:37

But they’re saying it outright, directly.

28:40

And Gartung speaks cautiously because

28:43

apparently he himself is stunned by this

28:45

setup.

28:46

Which also confirms that all of this

28:48

was being rushed through; nobody understands what

28:50

is happening, because I very, very much

28:53

doubt that this idiocy was

28:56

built in from the very beginning—like, that we

28:59

of course the whole country will vote, but

29:00

there will be no legal consequences from it, no, it

29:02

won’t have any force, I mean,

29:04

if, theoretically, people vote

29:06

against it,

29:07

then maybe the State Duma (lower house of Russia’s parliament) should think about it, but

29:09

damn, that couldn’t possibly have been built in

29:12

from the very start. Probably at the very beginning

29:13

Putin was sitting there with some of his

29:15

hangers-on, and they said: yeah, we’ll make

29:17

the amendments, and there’ll be a referendum,

29:19

an interesting kind of vote, and we’ll build in here

29:21

all sorts of interesting little things inside

29:26

it.

29:26

For example, remove the word ‘consecutive’ so that

29:28

a person can’t be president for two

29:31

consecutive terms, and then all democrats and opposition-minded people

29:34

will have to come

29:35

and vote for that. And we also built in

29:38

the abolition of the supremacy of international law,

29:40

so it’ll be very hard for people like us

29:42

to boycott this referendum

29:44

because you have to come and vote

29:47

against those things—but it’s all in one package.

29:49

So you want to vote

29:51

both against some parts and at the same time

29:53

for others, and everyone goes crazy.

29:56

We win the referendum, everything’s great,

29:58

and then they realized that holding a referendum

30:00

is very difficult—you need 50

30:03

percent turnout for it. Who’s going to go to it

30:06

if everything has already been decided in advance? And then

30:10

when all these Putin schemes

30:13

that existed only in his head

30:14

ran into actual reality, they

30:16

said: man, you can’t hold any kind of

30:17

referendum like that, so they came up with

30:20

some kind of vote instead. And amazingly, just

30:24

amazingly, today Ella

30:26

Pamfilova spoke. She’s a genius woman. Remember when

30:30

she wouldn’t let me run in the election? She

30:31

said we’re not letting you into the

30:33

election because that’s what the law says. And now

30:35

Ella Pamfilova is just happily

30:39

running around like Baba Yaga (a witch from Slavic folklore) from a cartoon, with a

30:41

headscarf, shouting: what laws?

30:44

Let me quote her exactly. She says: let’s, so that

30:47

there’s no confusion, introduce the term

30:49

‘an exclusive one-time unique event’

30:52

so there are no references to current

30:55

legislation.

30:56

That kind of terminology—if you’re somewhere

30:58

walking in a store or down the street, and some creep

31:01

comes up to you and says, ‘a unique

31:03

one-time exclusive event,’ you immediately

31:07

understand it’s some kind of scam,

31:09

that they’re trying to take your money or

31:11

something from you. And here it’s exactly

31:13

the same. That is, Ella Pamfilova herself

31:15

is saying: well, we do have this law about

31:17

A referendum, illegal elections—and it all hurts, damn it.

31:21

Something or other, with references to...

31:23

the current legislation, various...

31:24

observers are needed, some kind of procedures...

31:27

you need to give airtime to some...

31:31

opponents, supporters—but overall this is...

31:34

it’s all so complicated—let’s just do some kind of special...

31:36

campaign, let’s just cancel everything to hell...

31:38

screw the laws, and hold some kind of...

31:41

meaningless, incomprehensible vote.

31:43

Why was this even introduced? What is going on?

31:49

What’s happening is simple: one old man decided to remain...

31:54

leader for life, and clearly doesn’t know exactly how...

31:57

to do it, how to pull it off, so they...

32:00

are doing all sorts of strange things. But guys, they...

32:04

already wrecked the economy. Why? Because...

32:08

they don’t understand what needs to be done for...

32:10

Russia to have rising wages and...

32:11

economic growth. And, basically...

32:13

when they pursue their own...

32:15

political course, they also don’t really...

32:18

understand how to do it properly, and...

32:21

there aren’t many examples to follow, so they do...

32:23

whatever they can, and in particular they’re giving us this...

32:27

you and me, this very strange and...

32:28

vote, which in essence is just awful too.

32:30

There was also a funny moment in the State Duma: Volodin, by the way...

32:35

the former head of the supervisory...

32:36

board of the Higher School of Economics (a major Russian university)...

32:39

holder of some academic degrees, supposedly...

32:42

someone who is supposed to be a very smart man...

32:44

at a press conference in the Duma...

32:47

a BBC correspondent asked him this...

32:48

elementary question: please explain...

32:50

what is this vote for? You’ve just...

32:52

voted and passed these amendments in...

32:54

the first reading—well, you’ve passed them...

32:56

so why the hell do you need some kind of...

32:58

nationwide vote, and what will it...

33:00

change? And just listen to...

33:03

Volodin’s answer. Try to understand at all what...

33:06

he is saying, and while you listen, remember...

33:08

that this is being said by a man who...

33:10

once headed the Higher School of Economics (a major Russian university).

33:16

The point is that you, representing...

33:22

foreign media outlets...

33:25

this form that we have chosen for ourselves...

33:28

we are choosing it—complex, but at the same time...

33:32

democratic—when in discussing these...

33:35

amendments, participation is not limited to...

33:38

deputies and members of the Federation Council...

33:40

and regional parliaments, but in the end...

33:45

all of this will be decided by the citizens of...

33:48

our country. And for your own countries, you should take...

33:52

and implement this, because when you elect presidents...

33:55

there, a couple hundred congressmen...

33:59

decide the fate of the world.

34:00

And then we all become hostages...

34:04

to such decisions, when...

34:06

everyone gets shaken by them, and then you start...

34:08

pushing your economic interests...

34:11

while blocking other countries. So follow...

34:15

Russia’s path. Anything else is interference in...

34:19

our affairs, so here too, be...

34:22

careful, and do not violate our...

34:25

legislation, because last time...

34:27

someone came up and tried to explain everything to you...

34:30

openly and clearly.

34:33

And you start inventing things—elections, then...

34:35

something else. In this case, right now we are...

34:39

setting standards. If in the future you do not follow them...

34:42

when it comes to decision-making...

34:45

while representing other countries...

34:47

we will consider that undemocratic.

34:53

What did he even say? Some bottom-tier speaker...

34:58

of the State Duma, I mean...

35:00

the idea is that we elected certain...

35:02

best representatives of the people, elected...

35:06

the best 450 people. Those best 450...

35:10

people—450 people...

35:12

then elected one single best, the most...

35:15

awesome one, who would speak better than...

35:17

everyone else—that’s called the speaker. And this...

35:19

stuffed dummy from United Russia (the ruling party) is babbling on, and you ask...

35:23

the question: please explain why...

35:26

there needs to be a vote if the president is going to sign it anyway...

35:28

and then it’s all, ‘you elect congressmen and...’

35:31

And the BBC reporter is saying: there are no...

35:33

congressmen or president involved there—what...

35:35

are you even talking about? But he keeps rambling. Why?

35:39

Because there is no answer. Well, they themselves didn’t...

35:42

explain it to him. They just told him: listen, Volodin...

35:44

we didn’t quite finish something here, we overlooked something...

35:46

and this is what we ended up with, so...

35:48

we’ll have to hold a vote, because Putin already...

35:50

promised it in his address, but in fact it’s not...

35:52

needed at all, and these general amendments to the country’s...

35:55

constitution—who the hell knows what’s going on, really.

35:58

Well, it all has to go through the State Duma, and...

36:01

journalists are going to ask questions.

36:02

You’ll say that we are setting new...

36:05

standards. It may seem to you like some kind of...

36:07

simplification, but actually it’s not...

36:09

a simplification at all—that’s really how it works.

36:12

It’s just total chaos.

36:13

Putin wants to become a lifelong guy—

36:16

a leader for life—and around that...

36:18

there is incomprehensible chaos involving some...

36:21

strange people doing strange...

36:23

things. When I was watching...

36:25

Volodin’s speech, I thought: where have I...

36:28

seen this before? I’ve definitely seen this somewhere. I just...

36:30

remembered and immediately googled it on YouTube.

36:32

Let’s take a look. It’s just—here are two...

36:35

giants, two titans, just so you know: Volodin and...

36:38

the guy who’s about to speak now. So...

36:40

when it seems to you that complete nonsense is happening...

36:42

just think for yourselves: can these...

36:44

people really produce anything other than...

36:45

nonsense? So: two wise men...

36:50

the one who is stirring up Russophobia...

36:53

this, that, all of that...

36:54

all of this—I’m addressing these people...

36:57

you’re going to push it too far, mark my words.

36:59

With this Russophobia that you, that you are...

37:01

stirring up.

37:02

I’m not saying this is addressed to any one specific...

37:03

specific person or anyone in particular. Thank you.

37:06

the Polish people, twice over, for—

37:07

with support, just to note, he said

37:09

that, mind you, this could

37:11

end badly.

37:14

Listen, let's not provoke me.

37:16

I've already answered that question myself.

37:19

I answered that question myself: where could all this

37:22

lead? This whole thing, that's the point.

37:24

This ongoing hysteria, which

37:26

sometimes takes hold,

37:28

a cowardly person, someone timid,

37:31

a tsar or a rat driven into a corner,

37:33

put under pressure, may lash out and bite.

37:36

A coward can sometimes fire a shot out of sheer panic.

37:39

That's what I mean.

37:42

All this phobia,

37:44

is not leading us to anything good.

37:47

And that's why such strange things

37:51

are happening. What will happen next with all this

37:54

is completely unclear, not in the slightest.

37:57

I mean, it's clear what he's aiming for, but how they

38:00

are going to do it—I think that right now

38:02

they themselves don't really understand what to do.

38:05

These are strange, absurd things, and the first

38:07

opinion polls will, after a while, show

38:09

that people are tapping their fingers to their temples (a Russian gesture meaning someone seems crazy) and

38:11

simply do not understand what is happening. When

38:13

people, by and large,

38:14

when millions of people are already at the end of their rope,

38:16

and these amendments are, for all practical purposes, already

38:18

adopted, they are being asked to vote for no clear reason.

38:20

I can guarantee you: people will really, really

38:24

dislike this. Not a single

38:26

person will like it. Of course, they will

38:28

say, well, we enshrined pensions

38:31

in the Constitution, and other things too, but

38:34

that won't affect anyone. First,

38:36

it has already been decided, and second,

38:38

Putin deceived people over pensions, and over all

38:42

his social promises. What's more,

38:46

he deceived people over the Constitution too—he promised

38:48

not to rewrite it at all. He lied.

38:51

So no one will believe that he will

38:54

necessarily uphold

38:56

any social guarantees simply because

38:58

they are written into the Constitution. It seems to me

39:01

no one is going to buy this trick, and

39:04

after some time, probably,

39:06

the presidential administration will, after all,

39:08

come up with a clearer plan

39:10

for what is happening, and

39:13

then they will act somehow

39:16

less chaotically, less idiotically.

39:19

But overall it's still strange, because

39:21

because what they are doing is, in principle,

39:23

a strange idea: to invent some kind of super-

39:26

post for Putin under which he would be

39:28

in charge of everything while not formally being president at the same time.

39:30

As for our actions, things are simpler for us here.

39:34

We understand that in any system

39:39

they create, it will remain such that

39:42

whether it is the State Council, the role

39:45

of the representative body of power—that is,

39:47

the State Duma, the Federation Council, or this

39:51

State Council, which it is still unclear how it will

39:53

be formed—

39:54

that role will most likely grow.

39:57

That is why we have

39:59

Smart Voting. In fact, what is happening now

40:01

with these changes is, among other things,

40:03

a reaction to our Smart Voting.

40:06

They understand that within this

40:08

system it is too dangerous for them, because,

40:09

well, today in Moscow people have stopped

40:11

voting for United Russia, and tomorrow in

40:13

the rest of the country they will stop

40:14

voting for United Russia too. That is why they

40:16

are trying to invent something new where, well,

40:20

where all power goes to the State Council. But one way or

40:22

another, the role of our machine,

40:26

our mechanism that works

40:27

against United Russia, is growing.

40:30

As for the question, I see a lot of people

40:32

writing in, like, what are we supposed to do about this

40:34

vote—boycott it or not,

40:36

vote for it or against it,

40:38

it's all unclear, nothing is clear.

40:41

Let's just wait and see how

40:43

this vote is actually organized. I

40:44

assume, based on what has been announced so far,

40:46

that people simply won't go, and

40:49

no one will even hear our, our

40:51

call to go there and vote,

40:53

because it won't change anything if it has

40:56

already been decided. But maybe it

40:57

will somehow be different, so

40:59

any tactical steps

41:01

regarding this vote, it seems to me,

41:03

are simply

41:04

too early to talk about at all.

41:08

Now, answering the question from Evil Tatar, I'm

41:11

being asked by Evil Tatar about the possibility

41:14

of proving the illegitimacy of Putin's

41:15

changes to the Constitution and bringing him to

41:16

accountability—that this whole

41:21

scheme of theirs is absolutely illegal or

41:22

illegitimate. All constitutional lawyers have already written

41:25

about this directly, but they are plainly

41:27

showing that this is impossible. Even if we take

41:29

this vote itself: either it is a referendum

41:32

or

41:33

the adoption of special constitutional

41:35

federal laws—but this childish

41:38

popular vote, that's not how it works. There are

41:41

Chapters 1 and 2 of the Constitution, which can only

41:44

be changed through a referendum. It is obvious that some

41:47

of the amendments, one way or another, affect

41:49

those first and second chapters.

41:50

In other words, they are changing everything; they are trying

41:53

to remake all of this without a referendum.

41:56

All of this is, of course, absolutely illegitimate

42:00

and illegal. Right now, for the time being, we cannot do

42:02

anything about it, but

42:05

repealing it later, someday, in

42:07

the Beautiful Russia of the Future, or on the road

42:09

to the Beautiful Russia of the Future, will be

42:11

quite simple, because there will be no need

42:13

to convince anyone, that is.

42:15

when people are unbiased and they are not

42:17

necessarily our supporters, yours and mine, in

42:19

the new representative body, the Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament)

42:21

but if they are not like Volodin (Vyacheslav Volodin, a senior Russian official)

42:23

and they are biased, then it seems to me—this is nonsense

42:25

somehow, what happened is nonsense, it is

42:27

all of this should be canceled. Viktor Medved...

42:30

People ask me, Alexei, what about the plans

42:32

to run for the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament), possible early

42:33

elections—I don’t think early elections are possible

42:38

elections.

42:38

I mean, why would they need them? To play around with

42:42

these various amendments

42:43

with State Councils and mess with our heads

42:47

it’s clear why he is doing that, but elections

42:49

to the State Duma

42:50

are still something real

42:52

and a very complicated problem for them, because during

42:55

them they will start making their choice, and we

42:57

will start doing Smart Voting

42:58

and some real confrontation will begin

43:01

district by district, over real issues. Maybe I’m

43:03

mistaken, but it seems to me there are no

43:08

serious signs that they will hold

43:11

early elections. At the very least, that would be

43:13

just wildly illogical.

43:16

Alexei, what powers of the office

43:18

of the president are left at all, they ask on

43:20

the stream. They are left—he ultimately increased

43:22

his powers, that’s the point, guys.

43:25

When he spoke before the Federal Assembly (Russia’s national legislature),

43:28

it sounded as if there would be

43:30

a reduction in the president’s powers.

43:32

In practice, those amendments that exist

43:35

have increased the president’s powers.

43:38

And so, I’m being asked

43:40

by Grigory Rakov: did Medvedev resign voluntarily

43:44

and here I’ll move on simply to

43:48

the pleasant part for me already—well, pleasant

43:51

in a way. We have this little chat

43:55

with FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation), me, Zhdanov, Volkov,

43:59

the leadership of FBK and our political

44:01

organization, where we discuss all sorts of things.

44:03

When the message came that the government

44:07

of Medvedev had resigned, we all just

44:09

started talking at once: damn, what a

44:12

setback. I mean, just awful, because

44:15

Medvedev was very good, wonderful, and

44:20

marvelous—we loved him. But that’s because

44:22

he’s a crook, a thief, an idiot, and he also spouts

44:26

all kinds of nonsense, and he is the leader of United Russia

44:29

and of course it was very advantageous and

44:32

convenient for all of us

44:33

that Putin had Medvedev, and everyone

44:36

understands Medvedev’s uselessness, and

44:37

thanks to our joint, shared

44:40

actions—specifically, I don’t know, me, the people in

44:44

this office, and you who helped us—we

44:47

destroyed

44:49

Medvedev as a public politician. He sent him

44:51

into resignation because Medvedev

44:54

was a weight tied to his feet. It’s impossible to make

44:57

any changes,

44:58

impossible to try to change the Constitution,

45:01

impossible to try to win new

45:04

elections and strengthen your power while you

45:07

still have Medvedev, while 37 million

45:11

people have watched this

45:13

remarkable film and then also

45:15

told their friends

45:17

and neighbors about this film—the thing that

45:20

ultimately finished off Dmitry Medvedev: “He Is Not Dimon to You” (a well-known FBK investigation). A crook

45:22

and a thief. And you certainly never thought that

45:24

this man was some kind of special villain

45:26

or an underground billionaire.

45:28

A lover of phones and other gadgets,

45:30

a funny bungler who falls asleep at important

45:33

events,

45:34

whom on the internet they call nothing other

45:36

than Dimon—“He Is Not Dimon to You”—but when you

45:40

watch this video by the Anti-Corruption Foundation

45:43

you will understand just how much we all

45:45

were mistaken.

45:47

[music]

45:55

[music]

46:06

[music]

46:14

I’m proud—this is our work, and once again thank you

46:17

so much to everyone who helped us

46:18

spread all of this and made it so that

46:21

Medvedev lost his political

46:22

future and ended up simply somewhere on the

46:24

margins, in his super-humiliating

46:27

position as deputy head of the Security Council

46:32

a post specially

46:34

invented for him.

46:35

Some people think it’s too early to write him off

46:37

that he is still some kind of

46:39

super-trusted person for Putin. Yes,

46:41

he is certainly a super-trusted guy for

46:43

Putin, but apparently a huge

46:46

number of publications on this subject

46:47

suggest that Medvedev really knew nothing about

46:50

the coming resignation, at least a couple of

46:52

days in advance. He did not want to resign. He

46:54

still wanted to play with the idea that

46:57

Putin would go off to the State Council or wherever

47:00

and that he might still perhaps become

47:01

president again. That is, he and his entourage

47:04

but especially his entourage, obviously, they

47:06

were naturally lobbying for all of this

47:07

because now everyone has been removed from the

47:09

government, and all these social projects

47:12

all these funds, all these businessmen,

47:15

all this huge number of hangers-on

47:18

that had been sitting in the government

47:20

for many, many years—now a new

47:22

crowd has come in, and now they will gradually start

47:24

devouring everyone, and the Medvedev people will

47:28

be devoured fairly quickly

47:30

because it turned out that this whole

47:34

propaganda machine, 15 days

47:37

ago, was saying that Medvedev’s government was good,

47:40

that they were solid professionals, that there were

47:43

technocrats there,

47:44

great people who understand the economy—and then in

47:47

an instant, after the resignation, this whole bunch

47:50

started saying: finally, thank God

47:53

they did more than we did to start...

47:55

People are outraged: they removed Medvedev, so...

47:58

they got rid of that goat Medvedev and put in this wonderful

48:01

marvelous, super-mega technocrat instead.

48:04

Mishustin. I was listening to an interview with Vladimir

48:08

Solovyov.

48:09

I just had tears streaming down my face at the same time—

48:12

from joy and tenderness,

48:14

and also, of course, from shame. Solovyov

48:17

says that he is even afraid of the

48:19

optimism that is filling him.

48:22

That’s the mood—he’s afraid of his own optimism. In *Komsomolskaya Pravda* (a Russian tabloid newspaper),

48:25

he says that this is an

48:27

absolutely brilliant government,

48:31

Vladimir’s government—absolutely

48:33

brilliant, Solovyov says,

48:36

simply talking over the interviewer.

48:38

A magnificent, mega-government, and

48:41

well, it’s obvious they were simply told: the situation is complicated,

48:45

no one understands what

48:47

is happening.

48:48

They removed one crook and appointed another crook.

48:51

And all these people—Simonyan (Margarita Simonyan, Russian state media editor),

48:54

Solovyov, Kiselyov (Dmitry Kiselyov, Russian state TV host), obviously

48:56

were clearly given instructions from above: write that this is a

48:59

government of breakthrough, that this is a

49:01

government of growth, that this is an absolutely

49:03

brilliant government. And yet, out of 22

49:07

ministers, 12 were kept on.

49:09

So this is more or less the same

49:12

government. You can see the old

49:15

and new faces, but the key figures—Siluanov,

49:17

Kolokoltsev, Lavrov—

49:20

Shoigu, they all stayed.

49:22

And the replacements are not some kind of

49:25

you know, if we believe that

49:27

Medvedev’s government was such a

49:28

worthless, useless, rotten one,

49:33

that they were simply just sitting there doing nothing—well then,

49:36

Pasha Bulakhov writes: maybe the video *Dimon* won’t

49:40

get deleted after all; no matter what happens, that video

49:41

about Dimon (a nickname for Dmitry Medvedev) will just remain hanging there like a monument.

49:43

But if suddenly United Russia (the ruling political party)

49:46

agreed with us that Medvedev’s government

49:47

had become the most disgusting and

49:49

most useless in the world, then why did they keep almost

49:51

all the same people? All these supposedly new

49:54

people are just the very same people from the

49:56

government.

49:56

As for Mishustin, he has been

49:59

sitting in the civil service for 22 years already.

50:02

Twenty-two years ago he entered

50:05

state service; for two years around 2010

50:07

he worked somewhere in some kind of

50:08

commercial outfit.

50:09

But otherwise he is simply a man from

50:14

Medvedev’s government, with all the same

50:16

approaches. Medvedev’s government was horribly

50:19

corrupt; he is a person so compromised that

50:22

there’s nowhere left to stamp him, and he is just as much of a

50:24

idler and loafer as everyone else in

50:26

Medvedev’s government. And now they have all been given

50:28

instructions to praise these people, which

50:30

looks very funny when they write that

50:32

look, can you imagine, he introduced

50:35

electronic accounting reports. But first of all,

50:37

if you want to hear

50:39

some truly awful swearing about

50:41

Mishustin, just ask an acquaintance of yours—

50:44

an accountant, if you have one, or a chief accountant—

50:46

go up to them and

50:47

say: so, what do you think,

50:50

does the tax service in

50:52

Russia actually work properly?

50:53

Have they made life easier for businesses

50:55

and accountants? Have they created a normal

50:57

reporting system? And you will hear curses,

51:00

obscenities, and see hair torn out

51:02

and shirts ripped open,

51:04

because people inside the profession

51:07

understood that this whole tax system

51:09

was basically a den of crooks; they all sat there

51:12

engaged in shady schemes involving

51:13

VAT refunds and things like that. They introduced

51:17

electronic filing of reports—but what, was it not already being done in the rest of

51:20

the world?

51:22

After all, it’s 2020 now; it exists everywhere.

51:25

Electronic filing is standard everywhere; in fact, they introduced it

51:28

much later than everyone else. But

51:30

now all of this is being presented to us as simply

51:33

something utterly wonderful—

51:35

a marvelous super-mega government.

51:39

Kirill Dmitriev, the head of the Russian

51:42

Direct Investment Fund, gave an interview in

51:45

Davos to our new favorite—Naila Asker-zade (a Russian TV presenter),

51:48

and said there that the difference is this:

51:51

Medvedev was focused on

51:53

stability, whereas of course this

51:55

government will be a government

51:56

of breakthrough. Let’s listen. Well,

51:58

the significance of this government—

52:00

this really is a very important moment. We

52:02

see that in the new appointments

52:05

very professional

52:06

previous ministers have been retained, and

52:08

new faces have also been added. And we see that while the

52:11

previous government was very effectively

52:13

focused on macroeconomic

52:15

stability and low inflation, the new

52:18

government is a government

52:19

of economic breakthrough, of economic

52:21

growth, and will undoubtedly be oriented

52:24

toward fulfilling the tasks that

52:25

the president outlined in his address

52:27

to the Federal Assembly. Therefore we expect

52:29

a very strong focus on investment,

52:32

on economic growth, and we see that many of the

52:34

people who came into the government have

52:37

already proven themselves to be effective

52:38

managers in the past.

52:42

What faces? What effective management

52:45

in the past? But as for the things that

52:48

I personally did right away, in the very first

52:51

days, regarding Mishustin—I went and

52:55

started looking at his declaration, looking at

52:56

Mishustin’s declaration, looking at the declaration

52:59

of his wife, and I simply took

53:01

a calculator and started adding it up year by year—

53:03

2007, 2008, and all the way through 2018.

53:07

I added up the officially declared income of Mishustin’s wife.

53:11

According to the disclosure—just imagine—

53:12

how much was in that declaration: 800

53:15

million rubles.

53:16

I thought, damn, 800 million

53:19

rubles. To earn a billion, well,

53:21

and declare it—meaning after

53:23

paying taxes—there would have to be some kind of

53:25

major business. I started googling, started

53:27

searching databases, looking for where

53:29

this supposed business of Mishustin’s wife was—and there isn’t one.

53:31

No one knows of any business, not even anything close.

53:33

It’s impossible for a person

53:37

to do nothing and still earn 800

53:40

million rubles. Impossible. The real estate

53:43

was immediately classified, which Proekt (an investigative media outlet) wrote about.

53:46

By today, a huge number of

53:50

publications had already come out, which we received with real frustration

53:53

because, generally speaking, we

53:55

had been saving that material for ourselves, but some journalists found something

53:57

and reported that there’s a house here,

54:03

a house there, and Mishustin’s sister already has

54:06

property worth 1 billion rubles.

54:07

Again, try to find some kind of

54:10

business

54:12

belonging to Mishustin’s sister that would match, in scale,

54:15

that kind of spending. I mean,

54:16

if you bought real estate worth

54:19

1 billion rubles, that means you have

54:21

several billion rubles, which means

54:25

you have a business that

54:27

brings in many billions of rubles, so that

54:30

your turnover is in the billions.

54:32

Yes, so that you could pull out a billion in net profit from it

54:35

and buy yourself all those houses

54:38

and apartments.

54:39

But that business doesn’t exist. It’s simply

54:43

legalized bribes and kickbacks. That’s how it

54:46

all works. Basically, in our country

54:48

the whole government is set up

54:50

in such a way that

54:52

well, where are you supposed to carry a suitcase full of cash?

54:54

That’s inconvenient, so you create

54:56

some supposedly legitimate business for your wife, and then

54:58

a businessman who wants to

55:00

pay you a bribe

55:02

signs a contract with your wife for something. And, I don’t know,

55:04

let’s say it’s for making

55:06

paper airplanes, and for each paper

55:08

airplane we’ll pay you 50 million

55:10

rubles. There you go: private business. “How do you explain

55:13

your billion-ruble real estate?” Well,

55:16

we declared the income. My wife

55:19

has a company, Daisy LLC—we won’t say what

55:22

it does, that’s none of your business—but we do have

55:24

legal income. We received

55:26

a billion.” In reality, they were folding

55:27

paper airplanes—or doing nothing at all.

55:29

And in fact, Mishustin’s appointment

55:33

and these strange

55:36

ministers around him also show

55:39

a hellish level of confusion. As I already said,

55:43

it’s now clear that Medvedev didn’t know either

55:45

until the very last day, or at most until the day before,

55:48

that the government was going to be changed.

55:50

And clearly,

55:52

Mishustin’s own candidacy and that of his

55:54

ministers were also put together in a rush,

55:56

because if they had thought

55:58

even a little,

55:59

they wouldn’t have made such strange

56:01

moves. First of all, Mishustin himself, as I

56:03

said, is rotten through and through, and it’s all

56:06

right there on the surface. Any claims by him

56:09

that he’s some kind of honest minister don’t

56:11

just

56:12

fall apart—they’re shattered by the facts: extracts from

56:15

registries, and there are huge numbers of them, not just two, from

56:17

real estate records

56:18

and everything else. They are creating in

56:24

the government what is basically an outright mafia,

56:26

an insiders’ club. Construction, in particular,

56:29

will be handled there by people brought from Moscow—well, I mean,

56:30

you know who, of course: Khusnullin.

56:33

He was once brought in from Kazan,

56:36

and in Moscow he built a huge

56:38

Kazan mafia network. I even counted, I think, about

56:41

60 of his former people

56:44

who had worked with him in Kazan

56:45

that he moved to Moscow. Here they

56:47

completely control the construction

56:49

market and simply steal tens of billions

56:52

of rubles.

56:54

There’s a version of events that I fully believe, namely that

56:57

it was Khusnullin himself who lobbied for it.

57:00

As for Alina Kabaeva, I completely

57:03

believe it, looking at how they generally

57:05

behave here—how brazen they are and how much

57:08

they steal—I have absolutely no doubt

57:11

that that’s exactly how it is. And of course,

57:15

big theft, big volumes, big VAT flows

57:18

are tied to taxes, and Khusnullin and

57:21

Mishustin have in fact long been

57:24

in some kind of super-close, super-

57:27

warm, and super-suspicious relationship,

57:30

because as soon as you try

57:32

to find out

57:32

how Mishustin and

57:35

Khusnullin are connected—whether it’s professional

57:36

or informal—you immediately find

57:38

some poems that Mishustin

57:41

reads about Khusnullin. Let’s listen: “On the

57:44

red planet, all your...

57:46

...have hidden away in cracks, mollusks and children, for

57:50

Khusnullin is arriving for them. Tomorrow he

57:52

will conduct an inspection at dawn,

57:54

putting on a suit of great

57:56

size, unmatched in strength,

57:58

and a jacket with a portrait of the Moscow

58:02

mayor.”

58:02

“With a master’s eye he will survey the planet,

58:06

feeling through the local soil with his hands, as if

58:08

setting up his office there. In it

58:10

he will discover building stone, a sunset on

58:13

a new contract, red in color, and the thought that

58:16

a swift meteorite

58:18

will pierce his brain like a dazzling spike—

58:21

the Kremlin built from such Martian granite.”

58:24

then on the ground, drenched in the capital

58:26

because it is something so diamond-like

58:28

let us propose it to the construction committee here

58:31

there are no taxes, for heaven's sake, with us

58:33

I'll take everything that fits into the rocket

58:35

the rocket of their anxious ones whistles like a difficult bullet

58:39

and difficult labor is expected as the cosmonaut is carried along

58:43

and builder Khusnullin, to Earth except for

58:45

the Martian rock, and there he is, sprawled out

58:48

as if in a carriage, preparing for launch in

58:51

in the courts and in concern

58:52

nearby is a trophy of Martian—go, which

58:56

he gave up, damn it, a wonderful medicine

59:01

for Dmitry Mironov asks, Alexei

59:03

how do you assess the poem

59:04

Mishustin's: on the red planet all creatures

59:07

fell asleep—very good, an excellent rating

59:10

the poem is ironic, wonderful

59:13

Mishustin reads very well, so perhaps

59:15

Mishustin should have been made minister of culture

59:17

appointed, in principle, when you look at

59:19

him like this, I mean, the guy reading

59:21

poems—apparently he came up with them himself, well, if not

59:24

himself, then he memorized the expression there and read it

59:27

he reads them with some kind of

59:28

a suspicious crook, but

59:30

well, and it seems you can do it normally, because

59:33

it would probably be worse if the guy, I don't

59:34

know, ate bricks or wore a bandana like

59:37

the biker 'Surgeon' (nickname of a pro-Kremlin biker leader) or something like that, or

59:40

just drank vodka, but that is a deceptive

59:44

impression—these nice and

59:48

pleasant uncles who do not eat

59:51

bricks and do not ride motorcycles

59:53

read poetry and deal with refunds

59:57

VAT refunds—they will steal 100 times

1:00:01

more than any biker 'Surgeon' would, because

1:00:03

what kind of Surgeon are we even talking about, but in a generalized

1:00:04

hypothetical sense, or some FSB officers

1:00:07

or a police officer—they do steal some things too

1:00:09

in huge quantities, but they do not have the brains

1:00:11

enough

1:00:12

to steal as much as all these

1:00:15

so-called white-collar types

1:00:17

there they really go all out

1:00:20

they perform to the fullest, and we will see it in

1:00:23

the government

1:00:25

in righteousness between—do not really

1:00:27

doubt it, but in general the people there

1:00:28

were selected in such a way that everything is obvious; what amazed me

1:00:32

was the new health minister

1:00:34

also one hundred percent confirming that

1:00:38

they urgently started doing something strange there

1:00:41

things, and they did not even think, because if you

1:00:44

just google this man, Murashko

1:00:48

the first thing you will see is that the guy was involved

1:00:53

in a criminal case about the procurement of CT scanners

1:00:56

which were bought at prices several

1:00:58

times above market value; they even tried to forcibly

1:01:01

bring him in as a witness—Milo said it nicely on

1:01:03

today's broadcast, he said it correctly

1:01:05

they tell us this is a government of super

1:01:07

professionals, super mega cool guys

1:01:09

a breakthrough, and so on, just as Dmitriev

1:01:12

said in the video I showed you

1:01:15

that these people came in and proved themselves

1:01:16

through their deeds—amazingly

1:01:20

the governor of Komi, Gaizer

1:01:23

has now been convicted for having, in his

1:01:26

government, created an organized

1:01:28

criminal group that embezzled

1:01:31

budget funds

1:01:32

the health minister in that

1:01:34

government was Murashko, damn it, who

1:01:37

is now the federal minister, and

1:01:39

so the guy was involved in a criminal

1:01:41

case, was with that Gaizer, and they

1:01:43

appoint him health minister, and

1:01:47

then they tell us about some kind of new

1:01:48

person—there is a separately funny

1:01:50

story with him: he headed Roszdrav

1:01:54

nadzor, one of the most important agencies in the system

1:01:58

of healthcare, and now they took him and

1:02:00

moved him from Roszdravnadzor to the post of minister

1:02:03

of health, and then there is Skvortsova—and where

1:02:05

to put Skvortsova? So Skvortsova was

1:02:07

moved to head

1:02:09

the Federal Medical-Biological

1:02:11

Agency, also one of the most important agencies

1:02:13

in the field of medicine—so basically

1:02:15

it was simply the top leadership

1:02:17

of healthcare, which failed at everything over

1:02:19

all the recent years, stole everything, but

1:02:22

they just, you know, like a Rubik's Cube

1:02:24

turned it once, and everything stayed the same

1:02:26

it all remained, only slightly rearranged: the one who was

1:02:29

in second position moved to first, and the one

1:02:31

who was in first moved there to

1:02:32

third; everything remained exactly the same

1:02:36

absolutely

1:02:37

and on top of that, this Murashko is absolutely

1:02:40

an astonishing person—if you just, on

1:02:42

YouTube now, try to find what

1:02:45

Murashko said about healthcare, then

1:02:47

you will see his interview from

1:02:50

2017, where he says that

1:02:52

there is no money, so the main thing actually will be

1:02:55

the task of Russian healthcare is

1:02:57

to discharge people from hospital faster and inpatient care

1:02:59

to—listen, this is completely logical

1:03:01

and then either we need to increase

1:03:03

healthcare spending; we would need to

1:03:05

pay more taxes, or

1:03:06

pay extra out of our own pockets

1:03:08

in addition—that is, there is no other

1:03:10

way, but at the same time we understand

1:03:12

that the economics of healthcare

1:03:14

must also be structured; we have to start somewhere

1:03:17

and we need to start by reducing

1:03:19

the length of hospital stays where today

1:03:21

there are medicines available that allow

1:03:25

therapy to be carried out on an outpatient basis

1:03:28

all of that is correct and wonderful—therapy

1:03:31

can be done on an outpatient basis; perhaps

1:03:32

for some sick people it may make

1:03:35

sense to discharge them earlier from hospital, but

1:03:37

the first thing to do is stop

1:03:40

stealing through CT scanner procurements, which is a splendid

1:03:43

...the very same minister was acting in exactly this way.

1:03:45

when he was working as part of that team,

1:03:48

a criminal group, as established by the court.

1:03:50

Governor Geizer's (Vyacheslav Geizer's) group, and they hardly would have

1:03:53

appointed him if they had at least bothered to

1:03:56

Google him—or they probably wouldn't have appointed

1:03:58

him sports minister. The mother and son are another story too.

1:04:02

A great story. I mean, the guy—

1:04:03

he was convicted. He used to head the Institute

1:04:06

of Physical Education.

1:04:08

And that Institute of Physical Education handed over money

1:04:11

for next to nothing, along with its enormous

1:04:12

plot of land for the location of

1:04:14

the Cherkizovsky Market. Even if you haven't been there

1:04:16

in Moscow,

1:04:16

you of course know very well about

1:04:18

the Cherkizovsky Market—a gigantic,

1:04:20

the largest in Europe, and the most criminal

1:04:21

market, run by the oligarch Telman

1:04:24

Ismailov.

1:04:24

All of that was located on land belonging to

1:04:26

the physical education institute, which

1:04:28

was illegally handed over by the man who is now

1:04:31

the sports minister. He was convicted, he was found

1:04:34

guilty.

1:04:35

Officially, the essence of it was: look, man, you

1:04:37

took land

1:04:38

that wasn't yours at all and handed it over to some

1:04:40

oligarch—damn it, you had no right to do that.

1:04:43

You simply stole it.

1:04:45

But the statute of limitations expired. After all, you weren't at

1:04:47

rallies throwing plastic cups

1:04:49

or, rather, protesting against the authorities,

1:04:51

you weren't tossing cups around at demonstrations,

1:04:53

so we're exempting you from punishment because of

1:04:55

the statute of limitations. But this is an established fact, and

1:04:58

right now, sitting in our government, we have

1:05:01

an officially recognized crook and thief—not a crook and thief

1:05:03

in the sense that Navalny calls everyone that,

1:05:05

but because a court found him to be one.

1:05:07

The court recognized him as a crook and a thief, and this is our

1:05:09

sports minister. How is that supposed to work going forward?

1:05:12

Why did they appoint them?

1:05:14

Well, because there was some kind of huge

1:05:16

rush, and they just needed to appoint someone.

1:05:18

And then some Mishustin-linked

1:05:20

guy said something like,

1:05:23

"I've got someone who can fill the role,"

1:05:24

"there's a good guy there, take him,"

1:05:25

"let's appoint him." They couldn't even Google

1:05:28

or read a biography, because otherwise I

1:05:30

seriously doubt they would have chosen

1:05:34

people like this. And now, wonderfully enough,

1:05:36

we now have a minister of culture.

1:05:41

I mean, it seemed like it would be hard to outdo

1:05:44

Minister Medinsky (Vladimir Medinsky), who

1:05:47

was basically a hack and a PR man for United Russia (the ruling party),

1:05:51

an absolutely finished scoundrel,

1:05:54

and it seemed there couldn't possibly be anyone worse. But then

1:05:56

they found some woman named

1:05:58

Olga Lyubimova. She was appointed

1:06:01

because her father is friends with Nikita

1:06:04

Mikhalkov, so this was basically Nikita Mikhalkov's pick,

1:06:07

and that's how she became minister

1:06:10

of culture. And naturally, overnight everyone started

1:06:13

looking up things about her online and immediately

1:06:15

found her LiveJournal blog.

1:06:17

In it, not actually that long ago—

1:06:19

about 10 years ago, I think, though even then she was

1:06:21

an adult, 29 or 30 years old—

1:06:24

she wrote absolutely astonishing posts.

1:06:27

Let's read, for example, a post about

1:06:31

how she basically hates

1:06:35

it all. She writes: "I can't stand opera, ballet,

1:06:38

classical music. For me, all

1:06:41

these memorial concerts for someone are just

1:06:43

a complete waste. I don't want to go anywhere at all,

1:06:46

I don't want to, don't make me—I just hate

1:06:49

excursions," she writes in all caps.

1:06:54

A lot of representatives of the so-called

1:06:58

liberal intelligentsia—liberal intelligentsia

1:07:00

really is "so-called," if we're being honest—

1:07:02

simply because they once

1:07:04

hung out together somewhere on Nikolina Gora (an elite suburb near Moscow),

1:07:08

eating sandwiches with red fish,

1:07:10

so now it feels awkward for them to criticize her.

1:07:12

And they bark: so what if she wrote something

1:07:14

10 years ago, some woman

1:07:16

posted something stupid? Well yes, actually, I

1:07:21

read that post by Lyubimova too and thought:

1:07:24

I don't really like excursions either. I also

1:07:26

don't particularly like many of the things she

1:07:30

hates. But damn it, that probably means I

1:07:32

shouldn't be minister

1:07:35

of culture.

1:07:36

No one is going to say, "Alexei, do you want

1:07:38

to be minister of culture? Let's appoint you."

1:07:39

I'd say: I'm not suited for that position.

1:07:42

I don't like excursions,

1:07:44

I don't like classical music, I don't

1:07:47

understand it, and so I'm not fit for

1:07:50

that job. And probably she isn't either.

1:07:52

If 10 years ago she didn't know or understand all this,

1:07:55

how can she

1:07:58

be minister of culture now?

1:07:59

But actually, the main complaint against her

1:08:01

raises a rather interesting

1:08:03

discussion around her, namely:

1:08:05

can we forgive a person who, 10 years

1:08:09

ago, wrote some nonsense?

1:08:10

People tell me: well, you wrote nonsense too

1:08:12

back then. Maybe I did write some

1:08:14

things that I would phrase differently now.

1:08:17

But I never wrote anything I would

1:08:20

have to disown. That's exactly why my blog

1:08:23

and everything I've written over many years—over all

1:08:25

those years—has already been examined a million times,

1:08:29

and everything anyone could use against me has already been brought up.

1:08:32

But can we forgive

1:08:35

Olga Lyubimova herself, who

1:08:37

is now going to be our minister of culture?

1:08:39

It seems to me that, again, in the context of the fact

1:08:42

that she will be working for us, with our

1:08:45

money, as minister of culture,

1:08:47

a country simply should not appoint someone who,

1:08:49

as a kind of manifesto, once wrote as an adult

1:08:51

that she basically hates everything connected with

1:08:53

well, I don't know, 90 percent of it.

1:08:56

what we call culture, but that's still

1:08:58

all right, but a person should be judged by their actions, and

1:09:01

what exactly are the actions of this Olga?

1:09:03

My dears, she's a protégé of Mikhalkov (Nikita Mikhalkov, the Russian filmmaker). She wrote

1:09:06

that she hates museums, theaters,

1:09:08

guided tours, and most importantly, unfortunately I

1:09:11

can't show you clips from this

1:09:14

wonderful show, because Channel One will get it banned

1:09:16

on YouTube. She was the creator and

1:09:18

head of the most hellish of all

1:09:21

propaganda shows, over there on

1:09:23

what's it called again? *Time Will Tell*,

1:09:25

yes, it was called *Time Will Tell*, right.

1:09:27

Exactly. So there you have

1:09:29

Solovyov, Kiselev, and some other

1:09:31

programs. On all these programs there are

1:09:33

some fake—or simply people

1:09:36

pretending to be a Ukrainian political analyst,

1:09:38

someone pretending to be an American

1:09:40

political analyst,

1:09:41

and several idiots who

1:09:42

pile onto them; everyone yells and screams, quite

1:09:45

well, it's hard to say it's the pinnacle of Channel One,

1:09:49

but not even the depths of it—this is specifically a show on

1:09:53

Channel One hosted by the most

1:09:55

just utterly disgusting people. Here you

1:09:58

see this famous episode when

1:10:00

a man came in with some kind of bucket

1:10:03

with a label on it and literally brought

1:10:06

a bucket of shit into the studio and

1:10:08

tried to hand it to some kind of

1:10:10

Ukrainian, or maybe Polish, or I

1:10:12

don't know whom they were hounding at that

1:10:14

moment, a political analyst. This was thought up by the

1:10:17

person who is now going to head

1:10:20

the Ministry of Culture, who will

1:10:22

decide which films get theatrical release and which

1:10:25

films do not, what should

1:10:27

be supported and what should not, and in general

1:10:28

the direction of culture—she will

1:10:31

be setting it. She will gather in one hall

1:10:33

all these tour guides, theater directors,

1:10:35

and so on and so forth.

1:10:38

Representatives

1:10:39

of, I don't know, conservatories too—and all of them

1:10:42

will know that she once wrote that

1:10:44

she couldn't stand them. She also made

1:10:46

a show where violence,

1:10:47

a bucket of shit, and she was their

1:10:50

boss. It seems to me that, first of all,

1:10:53

this is fundamentally a humiliating situation for

1:10:55

the whole country. I don't know what she will

1:10:58

do now in her post, but I do know for sure

1:11:01

that if we judge by deeds alone,

1:11:04

running the program *Time Will Tell*

1:11:06

is enough for this person to be

1:11:08

considered wildly, extremely indecent and

1:11:10

unfit

1:11:11

for any position, let alone

1:11:14

the position of Minister of Culture.

1:11:16

And yet she was appointed. By the way,

1:11:17

she immediately deleted her blog, although

1:11:20

not immediately—there was about a day of discussion,

1:11:23

after which she quite obviously, in a panic,

1:11:24

deleted it. And that also shows it: they appointed

1:11:27

some random woman. Why? Because Nikita Mikhalkov

1:11:29

called and said, twirling his mustache,

1:11:32

"There's a good girl there, the daughter

1:11:34

of my old boss. She also worked in

1:11:37

cinematography, so

1:11:39

appoint her as Minister of Culture."

1:11:40

And they appointed her. If they had at least

1:11:43

googled her,

1:11:44

they probably wouldn't have appointed her. But nobody

1:11:46

did, because all of this was happening

1:11:48

within the framework of some hellish,

1:11:50

incomprehensible, chaotic plan. Dim

1:11:54

Akhmedzyanov writes and asks: "Alexei,

1:11:57

tell us, what was that nonsense about

1:11:58

appointing Larisa Guzeeva (a Russian TV personality)?" Well, that

1:12:00

was such

1:12:00

a ridiculous thing. I mean, they

1:12:02

were appointing people in the government,

1:12:04

announcing various

1:12:07

ministers, this minister and that minister—it all looked so

1:12:09

stupid that I simply wrote on Twitter:

1:12:10

"They wanted Larisa

1:12:12

Guzeeva as Minister of Culture," remembering all the funny

1:12:15

things television had been saying, and a huge number of people

1:12:17

believed it.

1:12:19

They reposted it because, well, because it

1:12:21

didn't look all that strange, considering

1:12:25

the kind of people they were appointing to the new ministries.

1:12:27

Why would Larisa Guzeeva be any stranger? Okay,

1:12:29

you appointed as Minister of

1:12:30

Health some person who, if you google him,

1:12:33

the first thing that comes up is that he stole

1:12:34

tomography scanners—the first link about him says he stole

1:12:36

tomography scanners. As Minister of Sports they appointed

1:12:38

a person whose first link says he stole land and handed it over

1:12:41

to the Cherkizovsky Market (a notorious Moscow market). So why, if they

1:12:43

had appointed Larisa Guzeeva Minister of

1:12:45

Culture, would that be impossible? Larisa Guzeeva

1:12:46

would probably, in some sense, even be

1:12:48

more respectable than the person they

1:12:51

ultimately did

1:12:52

appoint. "Everything Is Stable" asks me:

1:12:56

"Comment on the situation with

1:12:57

Dolgopolov."

1:12:58

This is exactly what I've been talking about throughout my entire

1:13:01

program: the authorities will always

1:13:04

try to look for some kind of offense, and they

1:13:08

will keep trying to jail people

1:13:10

all the time,

1:13:10

claiming that someone offended or insulted them.

1:13:14

They will look for insult everywhere:

1:13:15

insult to the feelings of believers, the feelings of pensioners,

1:13:17

insult to government officials, and in

1:13:20

particular, in the case of the comedian Dolgopolov, someone

1:13:22

filed a complaint against him—some kind of

1:13:24

Orthodox Christian,

1:13:25

and of course that complaint should have been, under any

1:13:28

normal criminal procedure, thrown into the

1:13:30

trash, because stand-up is not

1:13:34

any kind of threat to society at all.

1:13:38

Nevertheless, some kind of

1:13:39

review of all this began. As I understand it, Dolgopolov

1:13:41

said today that he

1:13:43

is leaving the country, I mean,

1:13:46

it’s an idiotic situation that will repeat itself

1:13:48

many, many times, because this

1:13:51

state is constantly looking for someone to

1:13:55

take offense at, someone to lash out at

1:13:57

run after and jail, declaring that

1:14:01

we’ve taken offense, and actually right now

1:14:05

more than anything else, our state has

1:14:08

two main enemies, which I want

1:14:11

to talk about at the end of our program. By the way, you

1:14:13

by the way, I’d also like to draw your attention

1:14:14

to the fact that in the description of this video there is

1:14:16

a link to our new donation collection system

1:14:18

for donations.

1:14:19

Our new donation tool—it’s very important to us that

1:14:21

you use it today so that

1:14:22

we can at least see whether it works

1:14:24

or not; it’s a rather complicated

1:14:25

system. There are two things, two subjects that

1:14:29

came up, but judging by the intensity

1:14:32

of the media discussion, the main

1:14:34

enemies of Russia are, of course, Poland and

1:14:37

Alena Vodonaeva.

1:14:39

Everyone just descended on them. Let’s start

1:14:42

with Poland. So, Putin decided

1:14:45

to shut filthy mouths

1:14:48

filthy mouths—those who

1:14:51

are saying something untrue about

1:14:53

the Great Patriotic War (the Soviet term for the Eastern Front of World War II). Let’s

1:14:54

look at these fiery 42 minutes where

1:14:57

the man is absolutely fuming

1:14:59

and says that we will open the archives and

1:15:01

tell the truth—let’s listen, we

1:15:03

will definitely create a center

1:15:05

for archival documents, film, and

1:15:07

photographic materials, and we will shut the mouths of those who

1:15:13

try to twist history, present it in

1:15:20

a false light, and diminish the role of our

1:15:24

fathers, our grandfathers, our heroes who

1:15:27

died defending their homeland and defending

1:15:33

virtually the whole world from the brown plague

1:15:36

of Nazism. The filthy mouths that some people open

1:15:39

over there abroad in order

1:15:42

to achieve their short-term

1:15:44

political goals—we will shut them with truthful

1:15:47

documentary information.

1:15:50

“We’ll shut filthy mouths with truthful

1:15:53

documentary information.” I watched this

1:15:55

and thought: my God, what complete

1:15:59

idiots he must think all the people of our

1:16:03

country are. Well, I suppose he can’t

1:16:07

address them by directly calling them idiots,

1:16:08

because he understands that nobody

1:16:10

knows anything, nobody wants to remember anything. Seriously, the guy came out and said that

1:16:12

seriously, the guy came out and said that

1:16:14

that

1:16:15

we’ll open up and publish super-

1:16:19

truthful information in order to

1:16:21

tell

1:16:22

the truth about the war and shut filthy

1:16:24

mouths. Let’s see—who the hell was it that a year ago once again extended

1:16:27

once again extended

1:16:30

the secrecy regime for all documents related to

1:16:32

the war until 2040? Who did that?

1:16:36

Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich, did.

1:16:40

By his decree, he extended the secrecy regime.

1:16:44

That means we do not know the truth about the war because

1:16:47

for all 20 years

1:16:51

of his presidency, 20 years in

1:16:53

power, Putin has extended the secrecy deadlines every year.

1:16:57

Well, 75 years have passed—75

1:17:00

years have already passed. Why is it still secret? And all

1:17:03

historians say so, and everyone is outraged, and

1:17:05

for a long time now people have been saying that we

1:17:07

may be mistaken about something there, or maybe we really don’t know the truth, so

1:17:10

let’s shut filthy mouths

1:17:12

and publish the archives. No—none of that happened.

1:17:15

Nobody was told anything. But in fact

1:17:18

there is actually a huge amount of

1:17:21

information about the Great Patriotic War,

1:17:23

in which our grandfathers died and

1:17:28

30 million of our

1:17:30

compatriots perished—but nobody knows exactly,

1:17:32

give or take 5 million, according to

1:17:34

different estimates. We don’t know why it is

1:17:36

classified. These are NKVD archives, and

1:17:40

Putin personally classified them until 2050. What the hell?

1:17:46

Why is this happening? For years there has been

1:17:49

discussion, and now he

1:17:52

comes out—the very person who classified them—and says, “We

1:17:55

will shut filthy mouths because

1:17:57

someone doesn’t know the truthful

1:17:59

information. We will tell the truthful

1:18:01

information.” First of all, the secret is simple:

1:18:02

do one simple thing—open all these

1:18:06

archives. In principle, there can be no secret

1:18:08

in the archives of the Great Patriotic

1:18:11

War. Let all historians have access to them.

1:18:13

He won’t do it—you’ll see, it won’t be done.

1:18:16

What there will be is some selection

1:18:18

of documents pulled out; whether they’re real or

1:18:21

fake, none of us will be able to tell.

1:18:23

It will once again be

1:18:23

propaganda, of course.

1:18:25

It’s not simple, but this is an important point for

1:18:28

also assessing this man,

1:18:31

this government: he sits there in front of veterans

1:18:33

who probably would also very much like

1:18:36

many of them would like to know some

1:18:39

additional information about why things happened

1:18:41

the way they did. Likewise, if you read

1:18:44

the memoirs of any veteran, from Zhukov

1:18:48

to an ordinary soldier

1:18:50

who wrote them in old age,

1:18:52

you will see that there is a huge

1:18:55

number of questions and endless

1:18:56

discussion of why everything was done

1:18:59

so incompetently and why we shed so much blood

1:19:02

when we should have paid a much smaller

1:19:05

price for that victory. Putin kept all of this

1:19:08

closed, and he sits there looking these

1:19:10

old men in the face and lies—brazenly,

1:19:14

simply brazenly lies to them, completely. And of course

1:19:17

he’s a scoundrel. As for the second enemy,

1:19:19

the enemy of the state, this really is

1:19:23

a somewhat comical situation

1:19:26

that has arisen. I can see Anton Maxim

1:19:28

asking me a question: “Alexei, what do you think?”

1:19:30

As for maternity capital for the first child,

1:19:31

will this increase Putin's popularity among

1:19:33

young people? Apparently, for them

1:19:37

that was built in from the start as the main

1:19:41

main PR angle of this

1:19:44

address: maternity capital for one child,

1:19:48

for the second child, for the third child, and

1:19:50

wrap it all up in joy, and everyone will be

1:19:52

happy. And in advance, Putin, even before

1:19:55

Alena Vodonaeva (a Russian TV personality) wrote any of her

1:19:57

posts, had already started shouting that there are

1:19:59

some scoundrels who are speaking

1:20:01

against this. In other words, this is another

1:20:03

example

1:20:04

of a discussion being imposed on us. They’re

1:20:06

trying to tell us that there is this good

1:20:07

government that

1:20:10

wants to give money to young mothers, young

1:20:13

families, wants to stimulate the birth rate,

1:20:14

and then there are some villains, scoundrels,

1:20:17

oppositionists, a fifth column, liberals and

1:20:19

"liberasts" and so on, and they’re against all

1:20:22

of it. But the thing is that this is,

1:20:25

first of all, completely false — this is a

1:20:27

made-up construct. But they started inflating

1:20:29

all of this, this whole fuss.

1:20:33

Alena Vodonaeva, a star of Dom-2 (a Russian reality TV show), is now

1:20:36

an Instagram diva of sorts. She writes a post, and

1:20:39

basically, when I read that post,

1:20:41

after all the huge

1:20:43

hysteria started, and Volodin — I’ll show you now —

1:20:46

began saying that she should be fined not 100

1:20:47

million rubles (about $1 million), and I think he also

1:20:50

said a bunch of other things there. So let’s

1:20:53

take a look, let’s read Vodonaeva’s post. She

1:20:55

writes: the demographic problem is not in the

1:20:58

size of maternity capital, but in Russians’

1:21:00

standard of living. If people start giving birth not because

1:21:05

they want to, then neither 50,011 rubles nor

1:21:08

free school meals will somehow help

1:21:10

feed the children.

1:21:11

People will take out loans and pay them off

1:21:12

from generation to generation. You may not

1:21:18

agree, at least, with the

1:21:19

tone of this post, but it is written in such a way

1:21:22

that between the lines you can kind of read

1:21:24

something like: well, so what, basically

1:21:26

let’s hand out money so that

1:21:28

these drunks keep having children. You

1:21:32

can’t talk like that, and you can’t treat this

1:21:33

that way. But the essence of the post is

1:21:36

that the real obstacle to

1:21:39

demographics is not some kind of

1:21:41

maternity-capital handout, but poverty in general.

1:21:44

If people live well, they

1:21:47

will have two children, three children, four

1:21:50

children. But when there’s nowhere to live, when it’s

1:21:52

impossible to rent an apartment,

1:21:54

when your salary is 30,000 rubles (about $300) and you

1:21:56

live at home, with your mother, and in the other room

1:21:59

there’s your bedridden grandmother, and

1:22:01

at the same time here are the wife and husband, and then

1:22:04

some child, and someone takes him to

1:22:05

daycare — that’s how a large

1:22:07

part of our country lives. There’s nowhere to live, people rent

1:22:10

some apartment and scrape by; 70

1:22:13

percent of their salary goes to rent.

1:22:15

In Moscow it’s impossible — I don’t know, you

1:22:19

have to struggle and basically work

1:22:21

for some enormous salary, and

1:22:23

fight with your employer for some kind of

1:22:25

pay raise just to rent some tiny room

1:22:28

or in order to rent some

1:22:30

one-room apartment, and you rent

1:22:32

that one-room place — what children are you talking about? You

1:22:35

won’t have them.

1:22:37

So the problem is poverty. But on this

1:22:39

Alena Vodonaeva thing, Volodin simply

1:22:43

jumped right on it. But again, they

1:22:45

were delighted that someone had written

1:22:47

something like that, insulting people,

1:22:49

writing about a bottle of vodka and about

1:22:52

poverty, and then the great defender

1:22:56

of the Russian people, Vyacheslav Volodin,

1:22:58

comes out against Alena Vodonaeva.

1:23:00

Let’s listen. So it turns out she just

1:23:03

went ahead and insulted people.

1:23:05

And her income from these social networks,

1:23:09

as you rightly say, has increased.

1:23:12

Paradoxical as it may be, in this case

1:23:15

it would be right for us

1:23:17

to use the possibilities provided by the law, and

1:23:20

we passed a law saying that those who insult

1:23:23

must be punished —

1:23:25

those who insult the citizens of our country. This is an insult

1:23:27

to the citizens of our country; she insulted the people

1:23:31

of the Russian Federation.

1:23:34

In this case, a fine of 100 million rubles

1:23:38

— let her pay it, and next time she won’t talk

1:23:42

like that. That’s what this is about.

1:23:54

Let her get up and work where people

1:24:00

earn the kind of money that doesn’t

1:24:03

allow them to buy much for themselves or solve the

1:24:09

problems they need to solve. Therefore,

1:24:12

on the contrary, more barriers should be put in their way,

1:24:16

so they don’t go on television and

1:24:19

do many, many other things — they should be treated as untouchables,

1:24:22

basically.

1:24:23

When you look at him, you really want to say,

1:24:26

you brazen, thieving mug.

1:24:28

“Let her get up and go work,”

1:24:30

“Let her get up and go work” —

1:24:32

no, you go and work, please,

1:24:34

so that we can finally understand with what

1:24:36

money your mother, Volodin, bought

1:24:40

an apartment worth several hundred million

1:24:41

rubles. We did an investigation about this,

1:24:43

we explained it all, and we were told nothing.

1:24:45

They never told us where this money came from,

1:24:47

where the millions, the hundreds

1:24:51

of millions came from for Volodin, who shows in his

1:24:53

declaration that it came from some oil-and-fat

1:24:55

business. Where did he get this oil-and-fat

1:24:57

business if he has spent a huge amount of time

1:25:01

in government service? There’s no answer to any of this. You

1:25:03

saw that several years ago we

1:25:05

showed Volodin’s estate on Istra-3 (likely a reference to a location near the Istra area),

1:25:11

with what money was all of this bought? So maybe

1:25:15

What really offends people, after all, is not Alena

1:25:17

Vodonaeva with her post.

1:25:19

It’s the fact that at the head of the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament) we have

1:25:21

someone completely inarticulate, who can’t

1:25:24

put two words together and who simply

1:25:26

stole everything in sight — truly a thief among thieves,

1:25:30

who openly owns property worth hundreds

1:25:33

of millions of rubles, and refuses

1:25:35

to explain to us where he got the money from. And at the same time

1:25:38

he’s like, “What are we even talking about? Tonight we’ll pass

1:25:40

a law and fine her 100 million.”

1:25:44

They really are

1:25:45

the masters of life, the way they endlessly

1:25:47

fine us millions for one thing or another,

1:25:50

millions for our investigations,

1:25:51

and they sit there like they really are the masters

1:25:54

of life, like, “We can pass any law at any time.”

1:25:56

“Someone said something I didn’t like — we’ll fine them

1:25:58

100 million, we’ll fine them 100

1:26:00

million, we’ll fine you 100

1:26:02

million. And then if anyone asks us

1:26:05

with what money my mother bought

1:26:07

an apartment in the city center for half a billion

1:26:09

rubles, we’ll just fine them the same

1:26:11

half a billion — and then we’ll buy another

1:26:14

apartment.” That’s what offends people more than anything else.

1:26:17

Not Alena Vodonaeva — she’s a private individual.

1:26:21

She can say whatever she wants. Alena

1:26:23

Vodonaeva may talk nonsense, although overall

1:26:26

she’s basically right when she says

1:26:28

that if you want to improve demographics,

1:26:31

you need to fight poverty. But if she

1:26:33

wrote something wrong, people will unsubscribe from her,

1:26:35

and she’ll earn less from

1:26:39

advertising. But how are we supposed to get rid of this dear

1:26:41

Vyacheslav Volodin?

1:26:44

This wonderful former chairman of the supervisory

1:26:45

board of the Higher School of Economics — it’s not clear.

1:26:47

Well, actually, it is clear: we really need

1:26:50

to deal with these

1:26:51

brazen people by every possible means. This is

1:26:55

far from an original thought, but I definitely

1:26:58

want to say in my first program

1:27:01

this year that the role

1:27:03

of Smart Voting and the role of fighting United

1:27:05

Russia are growing now. They need to be crushed.

1:27:07

Just look at how shameless they’ve become, how brazen they are.

1:27:09

They are simply, I mean directly,

1:27:11

acting with utter arrogance. They’re mocking us.

1:27:13

They’re holding some kind of

1:27:15

nationwide vote that means nothing.

1:27:18

They’re just laughing, insulting us, and

1:27:21

stealing. These people must be fought, and

1:27:24

we will definitely defeat them.

1:27:27

As Leonid Volkov writes in huge letters,

1:27:30

I should definitely mention that

1:27:31

if you are watching, or will watch, this

1:27:34

program offline, the link below still

1:27:36

works. Everything we do, we

1:27:38

can only do if you

1:27:40

support us, because as you can see for yourselves,

1:27:42

the pressure on us from the other side is also

1:27:44

pretty intense, and we can only hold out

1:27:46

if we have your support. So

1:27:48

follow this link and support

1:27:50

us. As for the voting and everything

1:27:54

else, in the near future, when we

1:27:56

see what the crooks’ and thieves’ exact plan

1:27:59

actually is,

1:28:00

we will announce our exact plan. But in any

1:28:03

case, each of us, every day, should

1:28:06

make our own small contribution to the struggle for

1:28:11

the Beautiful Russia of the Future (a slogan for a democratic future Russia), at least

1:28:13

I promise you that this year I will make that contribution

1:28:15

with redoubled effort.

1:28:18

Thank you very much to everyone who watched my

1:28:19

first broadcast. See you next Thursday.

1:28:21

Bye.

1:28:41

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