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Hello. It's 8:18 p.m. in Moscow. Alexei is in the studio.

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Navalny, or a political loser, as

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Sergei Prikhodko called me — the same man who

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fortunately continues to be the subject

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of constant publications, the hero

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of remarkable, astonishing discussions

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that are taking place in blogs, in

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the mass media. We are very pleased

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that this topic remains in the spotlight.

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We are very glad that people are discussing not only

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Ms. Rybka and the various circumstances

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that took place at the dacha (country house), but also

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the main thing, properly speaking: the fact of corruption.

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The fact that Mr. Prikhodko, who

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calls me a loser, is

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a bribe-taker. At this point I don't even know which is better:

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to be a loser or a bribe-taker. In

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my view, it's better to be a loser.

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But Sergei Prikhodko probably feels today

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that he is once again the winner, because

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they blocked my blog, Navalny

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dot com, and

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for us this is the main news. We want

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to discuss it right at the start. But let me remind you

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that you can send me questions on

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Twitter with the hashtag #Navalny

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2018. I will try to answer them, and

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today we are raising money in support of

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the Voters' Strike. So then, Sergei

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Prikhodko, Oleg Deripaska, all these

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wonderful people, whom, of course,

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Vladimir Putin supports,

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blocked my blog today, and I have

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not the slightest doubt that this is

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of course not only about the pocket

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Ust-Labinsk court — yes, the Ust-Labinsk

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court, a tame court —

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because Mr. Deripaska

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basically owns that whole town — but also about

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the political desire of the authorities

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to block this. Look at what they did:

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they blocked the Navalny 2018 website, the

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Navalny.com website, the strike website, and the

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observer recruitment website — in other words, all at once

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they blocked them after the ruling of

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this court. This is absolutely illegal,

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because, naturally, the strike website

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or the observer recruitment website are in no way

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connected with

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Deripaska's private life, nor are they connected with

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Prikhodko's private life or with Rybka. There is nothing there,

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and more than that, this directly

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contradicts what is written even in

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Roskomnadzor's own unlawful decision. Nevertheless,

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they basically said: great idea,

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if there's some fake ruling saying

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we can block something related to Navalny,

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let's block everything at once. I want

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to say: we will do everything, and I believe we will succeed,

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in making sure that this information is not

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removed from the internet. Roskomnadzor has already

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forced 29 media outlets

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to delete certain information, and now they are

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running after everyone. Yes, they have now

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made our lives much more difficult, though

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we are fighting the blocking fairly effectively

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nonetheless.

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In any case, we will absolutely do

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everything to ensure that information about the adventures of

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Deripaska and the adventures of Prikhodko not only

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remains on the Russian internet,

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but becomes even more accessible, so that

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a large number — an even greater number —

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of people can see it. I hope you

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will help us. Thanks to you, our

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film has already reached five million

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views. Please keep going:

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send it to your grandmothers, grandfathers, to everyone.

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Let millions of Russian citizens know

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what is happening. And of course, fighting

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blocks, knowing how to get around them,

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is now simply a basic life skill in Russia

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today.

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If you still haven't learned how to do it,

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make sure you do. I wanted to show you

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some kind of guide, a short guide

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on how to bypass blocks, but

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then I remembered that in Russia

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even

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instructions on bypassing blocks are banned. If I

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show you something now, then

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Roskomnadzor will be obliged to block those

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people who explained how

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to fight blocking. Still, I think

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I'll take the risk and show you 40

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seconds of explanation on how to bypass

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blocks, and I even somewhat hope that

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after this Roskomnadzor will block those

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who gave this 40-second explanation. Blocking

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popular internet resources is a matter

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of little use,

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essentially pointless, and as was emphasized by the

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Russian Ministry of Communications, it fosters in

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citizens legal nihilism and

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increases their computer literacy.

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This is dedicated to everyone suffering from blocked

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social networks but who can still watch us.

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There are many ways to bypass website blocking.

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There are plenty of them.

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One of the simplest is to download an app

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that changes your apparent country location

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to one where the resource is allowed. Often this

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method opens access to many websites.

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Another option is to use

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an anonymizer; it also allows you to access

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websites without being tied to your computer's

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address. Not entirely convenient, of course.

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Still, quite something — the Russia-24 TV channel

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was explaining how to get around blocks.

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You've probably already guessed: they were doing

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this because evil officials

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had blocked websites in Ukraine. Exactly right:

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as soon as decisions were made in Ukraine

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to block Russian websites,

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righteous anger filled

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all the very same officials who

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block websites inside Russia began to...

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to tell us on television, to explain to us

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the Ukrainians, yes, about how to get around

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the blocks. Well, those instructions will be useful

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to us too. Still, the simplest thing

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you can do is download

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my blog's app.

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The links are in the description for this video.

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There is an app for Android, and there is

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an app for iOS.

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No blocking will stop it, and you

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can use it easily. I don't even want

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to go into great detail for you

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about the legal aspects. Well,

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it's practically pointless. Any person

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who is even a little bit of a lawyer, or at least

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somewhat familiar with legal procedures

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in this country, will simply start

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laughing out loud if you tell them the story

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of how

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on a weekend you can come to court,

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immediately get a hearing scheduled, and on

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that same weekend day

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obtain interim measures that will block

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something, somewhere, across the whole country, while

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without notifying the actual, let's say,

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affected or involved parties. More than that, from

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the court's official position, this does not concern me

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at all. No.

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Just appreciate the elegance of the Deripaska

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- Prikhodko - Putin combination.

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We'll block Navalny's resources, and when you

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come and say,

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"Hey, give me the paperwork," they'll say, "This doesn't concern

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you." That is the official wording: that

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Navalny's interests were not affected

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by the blocking of Navalny's resources.

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Everything is clear with the Russian courts.

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What interests me more is the moral

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assessment of what was happening on Deripaska's yacht,

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with Prikhodko and so on. So, we

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see that all the people involved in our case

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were silent all week, silent. Prikhodko

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said something along the lines that he would deal

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with them man-to-man,

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but wouldn't. After that, they started blocking everything,

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and the first official

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high-ranking official who

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spoke out on whether this was acceptable or not,

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whether what

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was happening on that yacht was normal or not, was the minister—

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in fact, the minister

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for Open Government, Mikhail Abyzov. You

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know that he is an old friend

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of the Anti-Corruption Foundation,

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because he is usually the one who blocks everything we

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have collected. Several times we gathered 100,000

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signatures in support of various

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bills, and under the procedure it was precisely

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Abyzov and his ministry that were supposed to review them,

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and they successfully

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buried them every time.

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We released an investigative film about the luxury

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real estate of Mr. Abyzov in Italy.

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Today, the TV Rain channel, thanks to them,

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got a brief comment on how the minister

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assesses what happened, including from

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a moral point of view. Let's watch.

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There.

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1 minute 21 seconds. Complete nonsense, and don't

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confuse

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normal comradely, friendly

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relations with some kind of offerings

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or bribes. A bribe implies the provision of

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a service, and it's complete nonsense in essence. I

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worked in business for 20 years; all

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the oligarchs are, one way or another, either my friends

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or people I have worked with. I have

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friendly relations with

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them. So now I can't go into a restaurant with them?

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Why not? What difference does it make? Maybe

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I can't? What the hell is the point here?

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What's the key issue? Can you explain to me what

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is expensive, and what about a car? Is a car allowed?

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There is something to listen to in this, and there's no need

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to turn everything into absolute nonsense and

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some kind of complete phantasmagoria.

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The fact that people want publicity and for that

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purpose inflate certain stories or dig into

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dirty laundry and private life—that is a matter of

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upbringing. That's a question for their parents. Everyone has

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their own moral standard. I can say

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that Prikhodko is an absolutely decent man. I

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have worked with him for many years. He is a person

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who deserves

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the highest praise and deep respect,

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a consummate professional and a true friend, and I

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am glad that I work with such people. And all those

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who throw mud around—God will judge

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them.

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I'm trying to find my moral standard; it

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has fallen so low that it's impossible to find it

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anywhere. It's apparently on the fourth floor or

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the third, because, well—even to me

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Abyzov, a government minister,

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sitting in his Italian villa

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with Prikhodko and Deripaska,

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surrounded by dancing girls and escorts,

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addresses me and says something like,

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"Alexei, where is your moral standard? What

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is happening to you? That's a question for your

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parents—they raised you badly,"

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they say. And meanwhile, when they

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address me, meanwhile they have

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some naked girls, escort services,

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they are talking, they are giving each other bribes—

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there is nothing normal about that. A minister, to the whole

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country, can say: yes, he's a good,

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most honest man, a wonderful exemplary

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official. Well, you can see how far

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this government has degraded. But these people are not even

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embarrassed. He could at least have said, "I am not

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going to discuss this; it concerns only

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Prikhodko," or said, "This person

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always lies, just as he lied there about me,

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so none of this interests me." But no, they

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actually, you understand, are still trying to climb up

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onto the podium and, standing there in nothing but their underwear above

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us, say, "Come on, guys, what are you doing?"

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you’re digging through our dirty laundry

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it’s indecent, and on top of that they’re shaming us for it

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for being indecent. I suggest that you

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remember the episode that happened to

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Mikhail Mikhailovich Kasyanov, whose home,

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his residence, his apartment, was quite obviously

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illegally entered by the FSB (Russia’s security service) or some other agents, I don’t know who exactly,

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who installed a camera and filmed him several

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times over several days, and all those

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various bits of footage from his private life,

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his personal relationships there, they

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broadcast on television. And when

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Kasyanov went to court and said, well,

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actually, everything has been violated here:

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the right to privacy,

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illegal surveillance and operational-search

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activity, illegal filming, and

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basically every possible norm was violated here,

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violated—I don’t know, in principle this is

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something that simply cannot be shown

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on television, with that kind of content, with

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those dialogues.

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Kasyanov lost in every court, and everywhere

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he was denied. They said, more or less,

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Kasyanov, this doesn’t concern private life,

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it doesn’t affect anyone’s private life. But when we aren’t

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filming anyone with a hidden camera and simply show

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what

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one of the participants photographed on Instagram,

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then suddenly there are questions about our upbringing,

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questions about our moral standards,

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which, apparently, have fallen so low they’re lying at Abyzov’s feet

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and at Prikhodko’s feet—brazen,

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absolutely, just brazenly

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and, excuse me, completely shameless

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people with no conscience at all. So

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of course they need to be crushed, of course this

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government must be fought, of course we need to

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spread this video so that

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at the very least those arrogant expressions

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might somehow slide off their faces, because, well,

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it’s simply impossible to listen to them still

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trying to prove that they are somehow

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highly moral people, while we are the ones digging through

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dirty laundry. Unfortunately, I was very upset by

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Instagram. Instagram is

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Facebook and Zuckerberg, after all,

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because I still don’t think YouTube

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will delete our videos, at least not for now

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—so far it’s holding out. But Instagram deleted two

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photos. And since we have these

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photos, we’ll show those very

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photos. Here is photo number one: we

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see Deripaska with Nastya Rybka on a yacht,

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and photo number two.

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Unfortunately, Instagram, at the request

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of Roskomnadzor (Russia’s media and internet regulator), deleted them and thereby, well, became

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part of the Russian censorship

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and corruption machine. That is very

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disappointing. But I see that quite a lot of

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Western media are writing about this, and I hope that

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the public will now somehow give

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Zuckerberg—or whoever made those decisions—a good dressing-down,

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because, well,

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this is completely, absolutely outrageous,

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it is unacceptable when

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they take the side of crooks and

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help those crooks hide their

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corrupt little schemes. This whole affair already has

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many participants: Rybka, Prikhodko,

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Deripaska—and a lot has already been written about

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different people. Some write about Deripaska,

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publishing articles and investigations

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about why this might have happened; some even

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come up with conspiracy theories about who commissioned

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the investigation against Deripaska. It’s always

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very funny to read these enormous biographies.

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Then there’s Prikhodko.

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There’s a very interesting recollection about Prikhodko

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in a book by Yelena Tregubova,

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*Tales of a Kremlin Digger*,

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a book published in the early 2000s. There’s a very

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interesting section about Prikhodko there—read it. A lot is also written about

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Rybka herself, and there is one

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absolutely astonishing figure in

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this whole case named Alex Leslie.

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This very Alex Leslie—I don’t even know

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who exactly he is; I find it hard

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to define this person’s occupation, but

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he is described as a sex coach, and for Rybka

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he is a sex trainer, a guru at the same time,

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and also, well, some kind of scientific

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supervisor—or some kind of mentor,

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because she keeps talking about

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him. Let’s listen for a few seconds to what

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Nastya says about Alex Leslie.

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two trainers who for almost a year have been

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helping... look, yes, that’s what it’s supposed to...

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everyone knows how... I’m saying, well, this is

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some kind of her trainer, and she repeatedly

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stated that Deripaska arranged all of this

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because he is jealous of Alex

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Leslie, and she is putting Alex Leslie forward as

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a presidential candidate. Here he is at the wheel,

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sitting there—so cool—dancing.

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He turned out to be an astonishing person, because

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when people started googling him, well,

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just googling him, we found out that his

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real name is not Alex Leslie

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but Alexander Kirillov, including because

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when lawsuits were filed over reposts about him, it turned out

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that he is, no less, a resident

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of the Skolkovo Innovation Center. You can see

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his photo there at Skolkovo—this

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photo

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was on the website until quite recently

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of the Skolkovo Innovation Center. If

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you go there right now, you will

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read an absolutely astonishing

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profile

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of Alex Leslie on the innovation center’s website.

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You see, they have bashfully removed the photo, but

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it still says that he is a science director and theologian,

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and an investor in the Center for Intelligent

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Forecasting Systems, a participant

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and speaker at international congresses,

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an author and developer.

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artificial intelligence systems with

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increasing complexity, an increase in

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complexity, and he works at that very

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wonderful, amazing innovation

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center, Skolkovo, on which you and I

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dear YouTube viewers, spent 100

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32 billion rubles (about 1.4 billion USD at the time), so

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just look, you can see it from this, from

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the government decree. This is not my

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analysis; this is money that was allocated

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to the Skolkovo information center, where

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artificial systems

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of artificial intelligence with increasing

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complexity

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are being handled by Alexander Kirillov. These

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and

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and Alex Leslie—I spent some time

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trying to find some trace of his

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scientific work. There obviously should

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be some, because, well, frankly, I have

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no complaints about Alexei

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at all. There is even a kind of—not

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admiration, exactly, but recognition of his audacity

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that he even got in there and

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became part of this amazing

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Medvedev innovation center

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Skolkovo, but I was looking for some traces

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of scientific work or some visualization

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of some kind of project involving artificial

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intelligence, space programs—they've got

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a lot of things written there.

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I found it, I found it. There was a 52-second video

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but I cut it down because I thought you

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wouldn't survive it. Now you're going to watch 26 seconds

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of an innovation project that

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obviously, or most likely, was funded by

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the Skolkovo innovation center.

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Twenty-six seconds, dear Russians.

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And now, the future president of the Russian

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Federation.

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Alex Leslie will present to you the new Kim

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of Russia... That was Alex Leslie,

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a resident of the information and innovation center

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Skolkovo, on which you and I spent

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132 billion rubles (about 1.4 billion USD at the time).

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A perfect video. This is the best resident. I

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really think Alex Leslie should be

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made the symbol of the innovation center.

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He and the bear shouldn't be there together—and maybe

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even Medvedev could appear there in the same way

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like this, taking part. There were

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three girls, yeees—and the fourth should be

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Medvedev lying there with an iPhone or something

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turning around and talking about how

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Russia is expecting a breakthrough in innovation. That's

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exactly

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how it should be. It's absolutely brilliant,

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amazing, I think—just super.

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It perfectly characterizes everything happening in our

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country. And those of you who expect that from

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Putin or from Medvedev there could be

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some improvements in our country,

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technological breakthroughs or anything like that—

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well, Elon Musk is launching something, and

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we'll be able to do it too, we'll be able to make something

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in artificial intelligence or something

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in biotechnology, nanotechnology—all of you who

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are waiting for that, guys, watch this

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clip more often. This is the ceiling of innovation

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technology that it can provide,

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the Putin regime—this is the ceiling. And what's more,

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if you get upset about it, they

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will block it, and I have no doubt that

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tomorrow or the day after, Roskomnadzor (Russia’s media and internet regulator)

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will declare that this also needs to be

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blocked. By the way, the previous episode,

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Navalny 2018, exactly the same way, they

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put it on the register of banned websites. This one

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they'll add too, because these are secret

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technologies that he has just shown—

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not everyone should see them, not everyone.

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From amusing topics, let's move on to something serious,

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even partly sad, because after all

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the main international news story, and

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a very serious one, with long-term

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consequences for

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Russia, of course, was the situation—was

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the situation in Syria, connected with the so-

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called Wagner guys, and a huge

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number of media outlets, a huge number of people,

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spent the week, basically, discussing

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what happened, because even now

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we don't really understand what happened, and

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there are probably some facts that

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cannot be denied: there was some kind of

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combat clash in Syria, and in the course of it

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of that clash

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the Americans bombed and destroyed a column

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of certain people. No one really understands who

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they were. Among those people there were

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some Russian citizens, and

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the estimates varied wildly. So, at first

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they were talking about hundreds of these people,

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moreover,

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including Igor Strelkov,

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who, well, we know for sure that he

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maintains ties with these people and

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has some information. Then it was

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said that 20 people had died, then

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Bloomberg, accordingly, stated that actually

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200 people had died. There is an

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organization, a research community

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group calling itself CIT (Conflict Intelligence Team); they

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write a lot about this, by the way. I recommend it to everyone. Ruslan Leviev, for

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example, Ruslan Leviev

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said that 200 people is

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an obvious exaggeration, but most likely

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there were 30 to 40 dead there, and we still

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cannot understand what exactly

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happened there, how many people died, how many

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were Russian citizens. But today Maria

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Zakharova stated that as a result of the

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strike, five Russians may have been killed,

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and she still doubts whether they were Russians

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at all. And that is an obvious lie. Well, frankly,

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Ms. Zakharova never

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speaks a single word of truth,

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because already now there is

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documentary confirmation

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of the deaths of at least 8 people, that is,

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there are already—it's horrible—those very

22:52

weeping wives, those children left

22:56

orphaned

22:57

funerals and so on—at least 8

23:00

Russian citizens who, whatever letters and however

23:03

we may have regarded them—you may

23:04

consider them good, you may consider them bad,

23:06

you may consider them anyone at all, but one way or

23:08

another

23:09

some number of Russian citizens

23:11

were killed. We do not know who was killed there and

23:14

why they died, because the

23:17

reports that have been appearing over

23:20

the last few days, well, they generally

23:23

look monstrous, because

23:24

the American command says that

23:27

the Americans bombed a convoy in which

23:29

some people were traveling, and before

23:33

they bombed this convoy, they requested

23:35

information from Russia's Ministry of Defense

23:38

on whether there were Russian servicemen, quasi-

23:42

servicemen there, and the Ministry of Defense

23:45

told them there were none. This is the official

23:48

statement of the U.S. Secretary of Defense. Well, that

23:50

is, of course we should all treat it with

23:53

skepticism, but this is a serious accusation, it is

23:55

an accusation that the Ministry of Defense

23:57

simply sold out, betrayed Russian

23:59

citizens. It does not matter whether they were servicemen or not,

24:02

they said there were no Russians there,

24:04

after which they were all blown apart and killed

24:06

—our citizens. And we see that the Americans

24:09

are, generally speaking, reluctantly admitting this, because

24:11

well, nobody likes the idea of some kind of

24:14

clash in which Americans and Russians

24:15

kill each other. The entire press

24:18

naturally jumps on this: World War

24:20

III, rising escalation—nobody

24:23

wants that. But if these facts

24:26

are confirmed, this is of course a serious

24:29

question for the Ministry of Defense, which, well,

24:31

quite simply—again, it does not matter whether they were bad or

24:34

good—they were Russian citizens, and they

24:36

said: please, bomb ours, there are none of them there,

24:38

even though they knew ours were there. And

24:41

of course, what was absolutely monstrous was the statement by

24:43

Mr. Peskov after the first reports

24:46

including fairly well-founded

24:48

reports that at least dozens of

24:50

people had died there. He was asked whether it was necessary

24:53

to declare some kind of mourning or at least

24:55

do something, and Peskov said roughly

24:59

the following: what mourning? What are you talking about? I do not understand

25:02

what is happening there, and in general there are no

25:05

Russian citizens there, no servicemen

25:07

—no, there is nobody there, and there is nothing

25:09

to talk about. I repeat, at that very moment

25:12

interviews, video interviews, were being published

25:15

—you can watch them—featuring

25:16

those very people giving tearful

25:19

accounts, some Cossacks, unit leaders, all sorts of people

25:22

—whoever they may be—they state that yes,

25:26

ours were killed, from our district, from our

25:28

city, from our—whatever you call it—

25:30

Cossack association

25:32

These facts exist, everyone knows about these facts, and

25:35

state officials are the only ones

25:37

who simply disown Russian

25:39

citizens and betray

25:41

Russian citizens. And once again, we all must

25:46

raise the question: what are we doing in Syria, and

25:49

who exactly are these Russian citizens

25:52

who are doing something there

25:54

and taking part in some operations. And I

25:57

would simply like to draw attention to the fact that

25:58

there is this discussion going on: well, there is

26:01

the Wagner PMC, a private military company

26:03

like the Americans have

26:05

they do roughly the same thing that

26:07

the Americans do. No, guys, let's

26:10

establish some clear facts.

26:15

There is a certain man who is called

26:18

Wagner. About this man, it is known

26:21

what his surname and first name are, there is a photograph of him, his name is

26:25

Dmitry Utkin. Here he is at a Kremlin

26:28

reception of some kind at which

26:31

Putin is also present. No organization

26:34

under the name of Wagner exists, and

26:38

it cannot exist, because many people

26:41

mistakenly believe—I even see

26:43

interviews with some clowns who also

26:46

sign themselves as the head of some kind of

26:48

private military company

26:50

the head of this or that—this

26:52

cannot be. Even a law on private

26:55

military companies in Russia has not even

26:57

been considered in its first reading; it is not even clear where

26:59

it is sitting at all.

27:01

In Russia, there is Article 359 of the Criminal Code

27:08

called mercenarism

27:09

and any Russian citizens who, for

27:13

money, for payment, somewhere out there

27:16

fight, do something, with a weapon in

27:19

their hands—under this article they are mercenaries, they

27:23

must be brought to criminal

27:24

liability. So, as you can see, we

27:26

have at the very least a gray zone, obviously

27:29

some corrupt people, some kind of

27:31

organization that receives money

27:33

—from where and how? It cannot be

27:35

a legal entity

27:36

it cannot be, under the laws of the Russian

27:38

Federation. Which means there is some kind of

27:39

huge flow of cash, or something

27:41

else. We know this now; repeatedly

27:45

Fontanka has written about this extensively

27:46

in many investigations: that this very

27:48

so-called Wagner group, that is,

27:50

some illegal armed

27:52

formation engaged in who knows what

27:55

but at the very least in combat operations

27:57

in Donbas and in Syria, but

28:00

is in fact financed by the man

28:03

whom we will henceforth call Putin's chef

28:06

—Mr. Prigozhin—about whom we

28:08

have done a great many investigations, and about

28:10

which we know for certain that he

28:13

is feeding off by robbing

28:15

the Ministry of Defense, but perhaps he

28:17

because they receive from them absolutely

28:19

staggeringly large contracts, and this is

28:24

a cartel-style collusion. But look at our

28:25

investigation: it documents

28:27

proven corruption. Maybe part of

28:31

the money he steals, and part of it is given to the man

28:33

with Wagner; maybe it is connected in

28:35

one way or another, but in any case

28:38

what we see here is a very strange and

28:42

suspicious connection between this

28:45

Putin's chef and the people fighting in Syria

28:47

What's more, it was stated not long ago that

28:51

— I'll read it now — Fontanka (a Russian news outlet)

28:55

wrote in 2017 that a quarter of

28:57

the oil and gas extracted in

29:00

territory not controlled by Assad could go

29:02

to a company linked to Putin's chef

29:04

Yevgeny Prigozhin; in return, he is supposed to

29:07

liberate

29:08

these plants and oil-processing facilities

29:11

some gas fields, and so on

29:13

So this is how it seems to work: there are

29:17

certain people who are financed by

29:19

the Russian state, because, well, who else

29:21

is paying these poor men, the compensation, and so

29:24

the so-called death benefits and everything else? These

29:26

people all train in training

29:29

camps of the Ministry of Defense

29:31

near Molkino (a locality in southern Russia); people talk about this too, and it

29:34

involves Cossack leaders — really, all the people

29:37

participating in all of this. That is, they

29:39

train at an official base of the

29:41

Ministry of Defense, and then go on

29:43

to retake or seize certain gas

29:47

fields and oil fields for

29:49

Prigozhin. And why do we need this? Why are we

29:53

connected to this? Why does the Russian state

29:56

need any of this? Why should Russian citizens

29:58

have to take part in some kind of

30:00

clashes — with, I don't know, anyone at all, with

30:02

Americans, with Kurds, and so on? For

30:04

what? So that Putin's chef

30:06

can make money? And the latest article that

30:09

appeared in Kommersant (a Russian newspaper) — moreover, another

30:12

statement by the Ministry of Defense

30:15

shows an extremely strange thing overall. That

30:17

is, it effectively states that

30:19

these armed Wagner groups

30:23

were already acting even without coordination with our min-

30:26

istry of defense, trying, as it were, to

30:28

capture some military facility

30:30

that the Americans bombed, and this was either

30:33

a lack of coordination or something else. In other words,

30:35

there are some groups effectively financed

30:37

with taxpayers' money — groups that, well,

30:41

de facto act on behalf of the Russian Federation

30:43

— after all, not everyone knows they are Russian —

30:45

the Ministry of Defense sends them, they all

30:47

obviously arrive through our military

30:49

base, and what they are doing is solving the personal

30:53

financial problem of this Prigozhin fellow.

30:56

All of this looks very, very dubious

31:00

and, of course, all of this must be

31:02

investigated carefully, in the most

31:04

thorough way possible.

31:05

And once again I want to stress that there is no

31:07

parallel here. In interviews one often has to

31:09

read: well, in the world the Americans have

31:10

private military companies, and we have

31:12

a private military company too. But they

31:16

exist all over the world and do not take part in

31:19

combat operations. They sign

31:21

official contracts with the U.S. Department of Defense

31:24

or with other organizations

31:27

for security services, for example. They guard things,

31:31

they conduct training. In particular, in

31:33

Iraq, that same company Blackwater

31:36

— the famous private military company —

31:37

that is constantly compared to

31:39

Wagner, trained the local police.

31:41

As soon as facts become known about their

31:45

involvement in direct combat clashes,

31:47

those cases are investigated. You can find

31:50

that 125 specific cases were investigated

31:54

when these private military companies,

31:56

American ones, took part in

31:59

direct combat operations, because

32:00

they are not allowed to participate in them. They

32:02

were guarding something and were attacked. But in our case

32:05

the situation is completely different: some people,

32:08

very strange people, are actually waging war in

32:12

active combat. How can that possibly be

32:15

proper? It is obvious that no private

32:17

military company, without the support of

32:19

a regular army, is simply not capable of

32:21

fighting a war, because, well, a private military

32:23

company cannot have aviation, cannot have

32:26

drones, cannot have satellite

32:27

imagery, satellite communications, cannot have

32:30

tanks — at least not in a Russian

32:32

private military company. So this is

32:34

some kind of fairly gigantic gray

32:37

zone, a go-between between the Ministry of

32:39

Defense and that crook Prigozhin, and in that

32:42

zone there are literally billions of

32:45

dollars — at the very least, many tens of

32:48

billions of rubles — which these sides

32:51

are dragging off in different directions. And again,

32:53

the question is: why do we need this? Exactly, I

32:56

saw a post on Twitter that put it well:

32:57

people are dying, and

32:59

someone is raking in money by the shovel-load. People are dying,

33:01

and you and I will have to pay death benefits

33:05

to the families of the dead.

33:07

Socially, this is definitely, truly

33:09

a human tragedy, however you may relate to them:

33:11

children left orphaned, wives, and everything

33:15

else. Besides that, people will

33:17

be coming back, and it is not very clear in what

33:20

mental state. Again, read the interview

33:22

with the wife of one of the dead men. She

33:24

writes that he served in Donbas, and then

33:26

came home, got bored, and started

33:28

thinking about his rifle: where is my

33:30

dear rifle? He grew restless and went off to this

33:34

the episode where he was given that rifle

33:36

didn’t end very well, but still

33:37

when people get sentimental about having a rifle, the answer is

33:42

from the normal point of view, if you join the army, in the army

33:45

you are issued a rifle; if you enter the regular army

33:48

you’ll be given your own rifle, and it will be kept

33:51

under a number in the armory; you’ll receive it

33:53

when you’re supposed to, and you’ll

33:56

shoot when you’re supposed to shoot

33:58

that’s how it works: you got an order from the commander-in-chief, but we

34:01

with our own hands are simply creating some kind of

34:03

gangs that will later roam around

34:06

Russia and do who knows what, and well, I mean

34:11

this won’t lead to anything good

34:13

it will cost us an enormous

34:15

amount of money, and again the main

34:17

question is: why do we need any of this? Well, I’ve got

34:20

a message from Andrei Shpagin: Nino Rota is dying

34:22

Putin’s crazed [__]—well, you can

34:26

feel about them however you like; some people

34:29

consider them heroes, others consider them

34:31

not heroes at all, but obviously these people

34:32

went there to make money, but they are still

34:35

Russian citizens; they live next door to you

34:37

in the neighboring building. Those crazed [__] didn’t

34:40

come from some other country—they live here, and

34:42

however you may feel about them, you will

34:44

be paying their expenses, and that’s a lot of dollars

34:49

It’s a stupid idea to rejoice that they

34:51

were killed over there, like

34:52

“400 Putin supporters got bombed”

34:55

by the Americans”—that is an absolutely stupid position

34:57

because these are Russian citizens; here

35:00

their families are still here, their acquaintances are here

35:02

some have died, some will return

35:04

here, and it’s unclear what will be

35:06

going through their heads. This is our shared

35:08

problem, and of course we

35:10

need to treat this problem accordingly: we must

35:13

demand that this lying government

35:16

this disgusting Putin, who

35:18

has already said several times that we

35:20

withdrew

35:21

our ground forces from Syrian territory

35:24

explain to us what is happening. If you

35:26

withdrew them, then who was killed there, whose wives are here

35:29

weeping in Sverdlovsk Oblast (a region in Russia)?

35:31

Let them answer that, then.

35:34

Vladislav Lozinsky: In the Beautiful Russia of the Future

35:36

of the Future, won’t they jam the internet

35:38

of Elon Musk? Is that within Musk’s power—Elon Musk’s, I mean?

35:39

First he has to roll out his own internet—at least that’s what he said

35:41

it all sounds nice; we’ll see. But

35:43

to wrap up the Syria topic, the main thing

35:47

we need—I propose that everyone simply

35:50

I urge everyone to focus on

35:51

the personalities of these people [__]. They are not

35:53

[__], but simply to say that we

35:57

as a state, as a society, as communities—whoever

36:00

you like—we must get an answer to the

36:03

question of why people with the same

36:04

passports as ours are dying somewhere, and for what

36:07

they are dying, and why there are some kind of

36:11

murky financial flows connected with

36:14

their deaths

36:17

Andrei asks me whether it could

36:19

turn out that, as a result of low turnout,

36:20

foreign presidents will say to Putin,

36:22

“Sorry, man, we don’t want to have

36:24

anything to do with you.” That won’t happen, Andrei, because

36:25

foreign presidents don’t really care what

36:28

is happening here. Foreign presidents

36:30

say: let these Russians sort out

36:32

their own problems. I mean, if they

36:34

allow Putin to stay in power for 18 years

36:37

and rob them openly, then that is

36:40

the Russians’ problem. There’s no need to expect that

36:41

some Western politicians

36:44

will be outraged; they will consider him

36:46

a crook, a completely indecent

36:48

person, and we will suffer because of it, but

36:50

they will not solve our problems. So, well,

36:53

since we’ve started talking about

36:54

the elections

36:55

I’ve once again sunk to the bottom, where, according to

37:02

Bykov’s words, my moral bar lies

37:05

because somewhere down there, next to that

37:07

moral bar, deep below

37:09

lie our so-called elections and

37:12

the ratings of the so-called candidates

37:15

and, as you remember, we promised

37:17

we would continue conducting weekly

37:19

opinion polls so that you

37:21

could get real polling data on what

37:24

is actually happening now. Let’s take a look.

37:26

Let’s start with the candidates’ ratings. What would happen

37:29

if the election were held this Sunday?

37:31

First slide, please.

37:37

On the first slide, we see that, well, basically

37:40

nothing has changed. Putin’s rating

37:42

is still 80 percent; Zhirinovsky has

37:45

7 percent; Grudinin, 6 percent. But

37:47

a one-percent change, for us,

37:51

actually means nothing, because

37:52

it is within the margin of error. We still see

37:55

the main thing: Grudinin and Zhirinovsky

37:57

are fighting for second place, and all these

37:59

candidates have absolutely no

38:03

chance of forcing a second round or

38:04

of being noticed in any way in

38:08

this election. In other words, nothing at all

38:11

is happening with them. Let’s look at

38:12

the negative ratings—maybe they managed

38:14

to do at least something so that their negative

38:16

ratings would rise. Let’s see

38:18

whom our country hates. Next

38:23

slide.

38:26

Here is the next slide. “Hate” may be too strong a word, but

38:28

we can see that our

38:29

voters are still very strongly

38:31

irritated by Ksenia Sobchak, by a wide

38:35

margin. Next come Grigory

38:37

Yavlinsky and Zhirinovsky.

38:39

Putin, meanwhile, still has a low

38:41

negative rating. Obviously, people are simply already

38:43

afraid to say

38:47

whether they like him or don’t like him; they all don’t

38:50

include him in their negative ratings. Why?

38:53

The ratings aren’t rising, and the anti-ratings aren’t rising either.

38:57

Nothing at all is changing in the ratings.

39:00

This gives us the answer to that question.

39:03

The next slide gives us the answer. Let’s take a look.

39:05

Let’s look at the campaign materials—

39:07

which candidates’ materials have you

39:09

come across over the past two weeks?

39:12

Let’s go straight to the last column right away.

39:14

We look there: “none of the above.”

39:16

Seventy-four percent—that is, basically

39:18

74 percent of people, an overwhelming majority,

39:20

don’t see any campaigning at all and

39:23

don’t see any election campaign at all.

39:25

Well, there’s Zhirinovsky,

39:27

and of course Putin and Grudinin.

39:29

Zhirinovsky and Sobchak are at least somewhat visible,

39:31

since they show up on television.

39:34

So,

39:35

the minimum is Sobchak at 7 percent,

39:37

Zhirinovsky at 12 percent, Grudinin—well,

39:40

Putin is at 17 percent, not that far ahead, actually.

39:42

People notice them, but all the rest of our

39:45

fellow citizens don’t see any

39:48

election campaign at all. That’s rather depressing.

39:52

And by the way, have you seen

39:56

any campaign

39:58

materials? Today, an employee from our

40:01

office showed me

40:03

some campaign material that, for example,

40:05

Mr. Tsvetkov had put out:

40:07

improperly parked BMWs

40:09

decorated

40:10

with the logos of the Party of Growth and everything else.

40:13

So you can see what they’re doing:

40:14

they’re doing nothing.

40:16

Some little gimmicks for, say,

40:19

a funny photo, something for social media,

40:21

some statement that 27 people will discuss

40:24

on Facebook—but nothing meaningful,

40:27

not on a single important issue.

40:29

They don’t speak out on any of them. But for you,

40:30

we specifically asked

40:33

what people themselves consider important.

40:36

And it’s quite interesting—let’s see

40:38

which topics people want

40:41

the candidates to speak about: the quality of

40:43

education and healthcare—59

40:47

percent. That’s the number one issue. Russian citizens

40:48

want them to talk about that. Rising

40:50

prices and poverty—50 percent. Housing and utilities—47

40:53

percent. Corruption—which I’m glad to see—40

40:56

percent of people think it needs to be

40:58

discussed. Now let’s see

41:00

where the issues are that our candidates keep

41:03

going on and on about. Let’s go,

41:05

go, go, go all the way to the bottom.

41:08

There we see the country’s participation in international

41:10

military conflicts. It’s an important issue for me,

41:12

but

41:13

still, civil rights,

41:15

democratic freedoms, freedom of speech—

41:17

5 percent. Russia in

41:20

international politics—12 percent. And yet,

41:22

that’s all our candidates are talking about right now.

41:26

Grudinin says he’ll annex

41:28

Donbas (the war-torn region in eastern Ukraine). Sobchak goes, in the middle of the campaign, for

41:32

four days to the U.S., and there too they act

41:35

as if they’re great masters of foreign policy.

41:37

Yavlinsky is asked about Syria. It’s an important

41:41

issue, and I support him on that, but even so

41:43

the fact remains: most

41:45

people are not interested in international

41:48

politics at all. They don’t care about

41:50

Ukraine, America, Syria, or Donbas.

41:54

They want to know why prices are rising.

41:57

They want to hear something about corruption.

41:59

They want to hear something about the state of

42:01

healthcare and education.

42:03

But apparently there are no events, no statements on these issues,

42:06

no debates on them—nothing at all.

42:08

It’s total emptiness. So, really,

42:10

there isn’t much to discuss here.

42:14

There is no election campaign. These candidates

42:17

are doing everything they can not to be noticed.

42:19

There’s a month left until the election, a month left,

42:21

and not one of these

42:24

candidates, as far as I know,

42:26

has any debate performance or even a single video

42:29

that has managed, in terms of views, even to

42:31

outdo this livestream of mine. And not because

42:34

I’m so amazing—

42:35

it’s because they’re not.

42:37

It’s because they don’t do a damn thing,

42:40

and don’t want to, because of the terms of the deal.

42:41

So don’t go to this election, don’t

42:46

take part in this disgrace.

42:48

Sign up as an observer

42:51

to stop them from falsifying turnout,

42:53

and don’t be part of this shameful, worthless,

42:59

pathetic spectacle. If the candidate isn’t

43:01

fighting for your vote, then why would you go

43:03

to the polling station? You can’t be more

43:05

active than the candidate—surely you agree

43:07

that’s obvious. It looks strange

43:11

when you sit there arguing with me

43:14

somewhere on social media, saying, “I absolutely

43:15

have to go vote,” while your candidate

43:17

whose name is on the ballot isn’t actually

43:20

participating in this election de facto—he just signed up,

43:23

and that’s it. And you’re rushing somewhere—don’t.

43:25

Don’t go there. Boycott it, and urge

43:28

everyone else to boycott it too. But do take part in

43:31

the campaign—well, I see people are asking.

43:34

“I’ve already signed up as an observer—should I wait for

43:36

training?” Of course. We’ll train everyone, and

43:38

of course we’ll send

43:41

prepared people to polling

43:42

stations. Okay, Alyosha Dementyev—well,

43:45

come back, I only caught part of it.

43:47

“I’m 19 years old…” I read that you were a participant

43:49

in a rally in Monchegorsk (a town in Murmansk Region), then I

43:51

didn’t manage to read the rest, so for now,

43:53

while they bring it back to me—here’s another question: “What do you think

43:55

about the news that money was allocated for the killing of

43:57

stray animals?” Well, the killing of animals

43:59

—of stray animals—was allocated funding too. Just

44:02

can one meet up with you

44:03

and take a photo with you in Moscow?

44:07

It’s very easy to take a photo with me in Moscow.

44:08

At any rally, there will be a march.

44:10

By the way, come to the Nemtsov March (a memorial march for opposition politician Boris Nemtsov).

44:12

At the Nemtsov March, you can take photos with me there.

44:13

As for the news that

44:16

the Moscow city government really

44:18

allocated money for killing stray

44:21

animals—not only in Moscow, but at the federal level as well,

44:23

in all the cities that will host the World Cup.

44:24

It’s not

44:25

or money for sterilizing animals.

44:27

They’re talking about killing them, but that is stupidity,

44:32

cruelty.

44:33

And besides, it’s a pointless waste

44:35

of money. There are tons of studies that

44:37

show that populations of stray

44:38

animals—even if you kill all the cats and

44:41

dogs,

44:42

within three years the population comes back.

44:44

That’s just how big cities work:

44:47

the population of stray

44:49

animals recovers. So it is senseless,

44:52

stupid, and cruel. Is it normal

44:54

that my relatives call me a traitor because

44:56

I support you? No,

44:59

it is not normal that they call you

45:01

a traitor. If you support me,

45:04

if you support our movement,

45:05

then you are a patriot of Russia to a much

45:07

greater extent, apparently, than your relatives are.

45:10

My dear friend, talk to them.

45:13

Show them the video about

45:16

“the little fish” (apparently referring to an investigative video), and by the way, show them Abyzov’s house.

45:20

First show them the comments,

45:22

show them Prikhodko (a Russian official), whom I showed you today,

45:24

show them the TV Rain (Dozhd) report, show them his house,

45:26

show them his estate in Italy, and ask your relatives:

45:28

“My dear family, do you think

45:32

I am a patriot or a traitor when I

45:35

speak out against people like Abyzov, against

45:38

people like Prikhodko?” And it seems to me that any

45:40

normal person would of course say:

45:41

it doesn’t matter whether they like me or not,

45:42

they would say, “Well of course, that’s a patriot.”

45:46

It’s hard to ask Little Roll what

45:49

will happen to Volodya’s quadcopter when

45:52

Navalny becomes president—whether Volodya

45:54

will be in charge of reconnaissance in the country. But

45:56

Volodya’s quadcopter is still operational; we

45:59

use it and will keep using it. It’s just that

46:01

it isn’t suitable for the most important

46:03

operations. But of course we will

46:05

use it.

46:06

I hope that when I become president

46:08

of Russia, there will be higher-quality methods

46:10

and tools for reconnaissance than

46:12

quadcopters that can fly only three

46:14

kilometers (about 1.9 miles). Look—there are satellites,

46:16

satellites.

46:17

Technology has advanced so far now

46:20

that objects the size of

46:22

a pack of cigarettes can already be seen from orbit. We

46:24

want to move beyond quadcopters. As for

46:30

campaigning, let’s talk a little

46:32

about that. We’ve established that our opponents’

46:34

candidates aren’t doing a damn thing at all,

46:36

so there’s no campaigning from them.

46:37

But Vladimir Putin

46:40

is not asleep, Vladimir Putin is not dozing, and he is not

46:44

using his electoral fund—he is simply

46:45

constantly present on television. What’s more,

46:47

they have started rerunning a film that is

46:51

an absolutely sycophantic, disgusting film

46:53

which was made, unfortunately, by the wonderful

46:55

director Oliver Stone about Putin, and they began

46:57

showing it on Channel One.

46:58

And the Central Election Commission, after

47:00

numerous complaints—by the way,

47:02

including from Yavlinsky himself—stated that

47:04

it does not recommend showing this film,

47:06

but after reviewing it, found no campaigning in it. Now,

47:09

here is a leaflet—our leaflet—on

47:15

which, as you can see, there is not

47:18

a single mention of Putin, not a single surname,

47:20

not a single candidate. And yet the Central

47:23

Election Commission considers it prohibited

47:25

because it creates a negative image

47:28

of some candidate. So apparently, once again,

47:29

they understand that the word “deception”

47:33

of course means

47:35

Putin—but his name is not written there.

47:36

The Central Election Commission

47:38

considers this campaigning, and the police across

47:40

the country are confiscating these leaflets. But

47:43

the film about Putin contains no campaigning,

47:46

they say. Let me now show you

47:49

literally one minute and seven seconds from

47:52

this film, and you tell me yourselves:

47:55

campaigning is the creation of a positive

47:58

image of a candidate. In this excerpt, the CEC

48:01

did not see any creation

48:04

of a positive image of the candidate. What

48:06

are you about to see in these one minute and seven seconds?

48:08

Did you think this would last long? These were not the best

48:12

times for the country. There is a war in Chechnya,

48:14

and the situation is terrible.

48:15

And moreover,

48:19

in August 1999, Russia entered

48:23

the Second Chechen War.

48:24

And it was a very difficult

48:27

test for the country. I had to

48:30

practically take upon myself

48:31

responsibility for this situation.

48:34

You did a great deal during your first term:

48:36

you strengthened industry,

48:39

electronics, machine-building, agriculture,

48:42

increased GDP, raised

48:45

incomes, reformed the army,

48:48

resolved the Chechen conflict,

48:51

stopped privatization. A true son

48:55

of Russia. —Not exactly. I did not stop

49:00

privatization; I simply tried to make

49:04

it more fair. I did

49:07

everything so that state

49:09

property would not be sold off for next to nothing. We

49:12

put an end to the schemes under which

49:16

the oligarchy was created, and under which

49:19

people in the first stage were left behind.

49:22

Billionaires? Vladimir Vladimirovich, you...

49:26

You're so cool, so great. No, no—well, I...

49:29

I'm not great, I'm just—well, really...

49:30

just very cool, Vladimir Vladimirovich.

49:32

How did you manage to solve all of Russia's problems?

49:35

Russia—after all, Russia was practically in

49:37

ruins, and you solved all the problems. Well, I solved

49:41

most of them. We still have problems, of course, but

49:43

yes, I solved most of them. And this is not

49:45

the creation of a positive image. It

49:47

says that, well, he got rid of

49:49

the oligarchs, showing Gusinsky and

49:51

Berezovsky, who have long since

49:52

been gone.

49:53

At the same time, in reality Putin is

49:57

the father of Russia's oligarchs, not Yeltsin.

49:59

Under Yeltsin there were nine billionaires; under

50:01

him there are more than a hundred. And this is not

50:04

creating a positive image for him. Channel One

50:07

stopped showing this film as

50:10

some kind of—well, it's just a herd there, but what really

50:14

especially outrages me is that

50:16

the Central Election Commission

50:17

lies so blatantly that it says this leaflet, it, it

50:22

constitutes some kind of violation of

50:25

election law. As for that

50:26

film—they watched it and supposedly found no

50:29

violations at all. But

50:30

they're crooks, what else can you say. Twenty-seven thousand

50:33

people are watching us live right now.

50:36

Kyiv—yes, Danila asks me:

50:38

register on Twitter

50:40

to ask how to campaign among

50:41

Putin supporters. Their logic is

50:43

ironclad: if not Putin, then who?

50:45

I work for the Russian Ministry of Defense.

50:48

Exactly. That's why they created

50:51

this kind of election, where a person takes

50:55

the ballot and sees Sobchak, Yavlinsky,

50:59

Grudinin—people who aren't really campaigning.

51:01

And of course he'll say to you—no matter whom

51:03

you try to persuade—he'll say, "Are you nuts?

51:05

What is he even doing here? Voting for anyone

51:07

is worse—I'd rather vote for Putin." That's what all this

51:10

was designed for. So right now it's important simply

51:15

to tell people that, well, it just doesn't happen

51:18

that in a country of 145 million people

51:23

there isn't another person. There are much

51:25

richer countries with larger

51:27

populations, and they change power regularly.

51:30

One president replaces another, and no

51:33

catastrophe happens, nothing terrible occurs.

51:35

On the contrary, people live better because

51:38

power is replaceable. And if we think that in

51:42

a country of 145 million people there isn't, or won't be,

51:45

even one person who can

51:47

govern, then that is genuine

51:48

Russophobia. No one knew Putin until

51:51

Yeltsin, the 'Family' (Yeltsin's inner circle), and

51:54

Berezovsky made him president. What

51:56

does that mean—that Russia would have fallen into

51:58

some kind of abyss, I don't know, that it would have

52:01

shattered into pieces, or we all would have died

52:04

if Putin hadn't appeared? Of course not.

52:06

Obviously not. So you need to show

52:10

the example of other countries and say that there are

52:12

two iron facts. Fact number one: if

52:16

power changes regularly, the country

52:18

gets richer

52:19

and lives better. Fact number two: if power

52:23

doesn't change, the country gets poorer, lives worse, and

52:26

then ask your acquaintances, well,

52:28

has your salary's purchasing

52:30

power—has your salary gone up or

52:32

down? Have milk prices over the last five

52:35

years gone up

52:35

or down? Has your real income gone up or

52:38

down? Prices for, I don't know, phones and

52:40

food, for what—for gasoline—have they gone up

52:42

or down?

52:43

Well, maybe Putin did a good job, and you

52:47

think well of him—fine, he worked,

52:49

you think he worked well. But probably

52:51

he should be replaced by someone. There need to be some

52:54

methods of pressure, levers of influence. The people should

52:57

have someone to hold accountable; he probably should

52:58

answer questions. Probably all of his

53:00

entourage—from Deripaska to

53:03

the Rotenbergs (businessmen close to the Kremlin), to—well,

53:05

in short, all these

53:08

guys, the Rotenbergs, Timchenko, and all

53:11

the rest—they probably should provide

53:13

some kind of accounting of how exactly they

53:15

earned their billions. Officials

53:17

should answer for their palaces. Talk about this

53:19

and show them more videos.

53:21

That is, you shouldn't immediately tell such

53:24

stubborn people that Putin is your

53:26

bad guy, a scoundrel, and so on. Say instead:

53:29

start simply—there must be turnover of

53:31

power. Putin was good, fine, he ruled

53:33

for long enough—18 years. Let's replace him with someone

53:36

else, because in recent years

53:39

there is obvious decay, obvious decline

53:41

in people's incomes, simply across the board. And here's

53:43

another topic, by the way.

53:46

I was absolutely furious, just beside myself,

53:50

about Putin and about what

53:53

our country has turned into. We have

53:57

an activist, Ilya Popov.

53:59

He's twenty years old. He lives in a place you've

54:03

probably never even heard of.

54:04

He, Ilya, lives in the settlement of Zykova, or

54:08

Zaykov—most likely Zaykov—which you've

54:11

also probably never heard of, because it

54:12

is very far away, in the Irbitsky District

54:16

of Sverdlovsk Region—so, very

54:18

far away, a small settlement. This Ilya Popov

54:21

is an absolutely wonderful person. He

54:23

took these leaflets—"Real Citizens, I

54:26

am coming"—and went around posting them all over his settlement

54:28

because he was campaigning for a voters' strike.

54:30

So, using surveillance camera

54:32

footage—just imagine, in the settlement of

54:35

damn Zykova in Irbitsky District—some

54:37

police officers apparently had nothing else to do, they had no

54:40

other business except, from the camera footage,

54:42

surveillance footage.

54:43

They couldn't find this person or establish his whereabouts.

54:46

So they took him to court.

54:48

He was fined 1,000 rubles, and then

54:51

they took him to the factory administration office.

54:54

At the dairy plant in the settlement of Zykova, there is

54:57

the Irbit Dairy Plant, which belongs,

55:00

incidentally, to the state, and

55:01

to this state-owned dairy plant they brought him

55:03

to the director.

55:04

There, the director gave him

55:06

a lecture about how I am with foreign

55:08

agents, that he is engaged in extremist

55:10

activity, and forced him—or rather fired him.

55:12

He said, “Take out a pen and write your resignation right now.”

55:15

He apparently decided not to escalate things and said, well,

55:17

“Fine, I’ll write it.” They fired the guy because

55:19

he was putting up those leaflets. The director’s

55:22

name is Sergey Suyetin, I think—Svetishcha?

55:25

Sergey Suyetin, exactly right. Well, I

55:28

read this and got really angry. I thought, what a

55:30

bastard this Sergey Suyetin is, really.

55:32

Most importantly—why? Fine, even if you

55:34

support Putin, even if you back

55:36

Putin—your employee, in his free time outside

55:38

of work, was going around putting up these leaflets.

55:40

You’re at this dairy plant in some settlement—why are you

55:44

interfering with him? Why do you think

55:45

it’s necessary to summon him and say,

55:48

“Write a resignation letter, because we

55:50

have to throw you out of the factory for

55:53

putting up leaflets”? And I very

55:57

quickly found the reason.

55:58

If you google the Irbit Dairy Plant

56:02

and google this very Sergey

56:04

Suyetin, the director of this plant, you

56:06

will find out why he likes this government.

56:10

Because this dairy plant,

56:12

which is state-owned, not long ago announced a

56:15

procurement

56:16

for a car for this very Suyetin—

56:19

that car was a Lexus 570 for 7 million

56:24

rubles. A dairy plant in the settlement of Zykova

56:30

in Irbit District, Sverdlovsk Region.

56:33

After a huge scandal there,

56:36

even the ONF (All-Russia People’s Front) got upset, and they

56:39

canceled the purchase. But just think

56:41

about this man’s sheer audacity: you work

56:44

at a state-owned factory. I don’t want to offend

56:46

anyone in Zykova, in the middle of nowhere, but

56:49

you want, with state money,

56:51

to buy a car that

56:54

presidents of developed countries don’t even buy.

56:59

Go on, show me—find me a president

57:01

of some Scandinavian country, or, I don’t know,

57:04

the head of a major region—California’s GDP

57:08

is bigger than Russia’s GDP—yes, look at

57:10

what the governor of California drives. I doubt

57:13

you’ll see a Lexus 570 there.

57:16

And that’s why this bastard hates

57:20

this very Ilya Popov, because

57:22

he speaks out against this, because we

57:25

want to create a government under which it will be

57:28

impossible. First, the state does not

57:29

need to own any dairy plant. Second,

57:32

it certainly does not need to

57:33

buy a car—let alone buy

57:36

itself a Lexus 570 for 7 million rubles.

57:40

The average salary at this plant

57:43

is 25,000–30,000 rubles. This Ilya Popov

57:46

worked there as a trainee foreman

57:48

and earned 10,000 rubles there. So you

57:50

pay people 10,000 to 30,000 rubles and

57:54

want to buy a car for 7 million.

57:57

That’s why they adore this government so much.

57:59

So here is the dairy plant’s website. If we

58:01

go there now, it looks like this. Please show

58:03

me—there, you see? This is

58:06

the dairy plant’s website: “Everyone to the elections,”

58:08

“Everyone to Putin’s re-election,” because this

58:11

Sergey Suyetin is a disgusting crook. He

58:16

adores this government with every fiber of his being.

58:17

What other government, what other system

58:21

would allow him to post procurements like that? In

58:24

any normal country, he’d be jailed. It wouldn’t even

58:26

occur to anyone. Why, workers at a dairy plant

58:29

would punch your face in for something like that.

58:32

In a normal society, in a normal

58:34

system, this is unimaginable. And they

58:37

all need Putin, because Putin gives

58:41

them all this, gives them the ability to keep

58:44

everyone in poverty, to pay their workers

58:47

minimum wages, while driving past them

58:50

through puddles and mud so that, you know,

58:53

the water splashes right into those workers’ faces

58:55

from his fancy Lexus 570.

58:58

After we come to power, we’ll deal with this

59:01

Suyetin. And I want to call on

59:05

the residents of the settlement of Zykova to tell this

59:08

Suyetin, when you meet him, everything you think

59:10

needs to be said.

59:13

About the opposition—I also wanted to

59:15

show you an interesting

59:18

video, because a very interesting situation is

59:21

developing in one particular

59:23

district of the Moscow region where the opposition

59:26

won and came to power—in

59:27

Krasnoselsky District.

59:29

You know that in several districts of Moscow

59:32

independent deputies won the majority, but in

59:34

Krasnoselsky District in particular

59:36

they really

59:37

put Ilya Yashin in charge of the municipal council.

59:41

He brought in his own supporters, and they have

59:43

a very clear political line there.

59:46

They say it outright: we are against

59:48

Putin, we are the Solidarnost movement, we

59:51

are fighting this government. But in this district

59:53

we are the власти, and you, the opposition, are

59:56

the minority. And of course, United

59:59

Russia, Sobyanin, Rakova—they just can’t

1:00:01

calm down. They created special

1:00:03

movements literally called “Against

1:00:06

Yashin,” and they hold pickets outside his

1:00:10

municipal office. And it’s very interesting

1:00:12

to watch. It’s curious to see how

1:00:15

this is supposed to work: they came to power,

1:00:17

there is some opposition—Putin’s people are pushing back,

1:00:19

they’re there, but those people most likely are being paid.

1:00:22

they get paid off, but the husband doesn't

1:00:23

isn't paid off, and in any case we obviously

1:00:25

there are people in the Krasnoselsky District who

1:00:28

don't like Yashin, and

1:00:30

and right now they're simply barging into his

1:00:32

municipal office, disrupting these meetings

1:00:34

well, taking advantage of the fact that the police

1:00:36

support them in an informal way, and so

1:00:38

let's just take literally a few

1:00:40

seconds—up to 55 seconds—on how exactly

1:00:44

a normal politician who has come to power

1:00:47

handles things, how he suppresses the opposition

1:00:50

in his district—55 seconds, basically

1:01:02

girls, the agenda still has various items left

1:01:04

if there are any proposals on the issue

1:01:11

that I want to put to you

1:01:13

in working order. Thank you, colleagues. With that,

1:01:16

I declare the meeting of the Council of Deputies

1:01:18

closed

1:01:19

those questions were heard

1:01:23

and so on. Let's start with this: you can see what kind of

1:01:27

situation has developed around your movement

1:01:30

we are ready to ensure representation at

1:01:32

the meetings of the Council of Deputies. I can

1:01:34

guarantee you that on all issues

1:01:36

on the agenda, if desired, we will provide

1:01:38

time to speak, in accordance with common sense

1:01:40

that works

1:01:41

completely. We talked—this is how we

1:01:49

will deal with the opposition in the Beautiful

1:01:51

Russia of the Future. This is what every

1:01:53

politician should do. Look, Yashin didn't

1:01:55

die from it; it's his job. There are some

1:01:58

people who are pretty... well, they still

1:02:00

haven't... they force their way into the meeting hall, they

1:02:04

shout, they stand there with signs against Ya...

1:02:06

their movement is called 'Against Yashin'

1:02:08

I sat them down, talked to them, shook hands with them, and already

1:02:12

the tone was completely different. That's the work

1:02:15

of a normal politician, and our country

1:02:17

will become normal when politicians and

1:02:20

officials... Yashin, by the way, yes,

1:02:22

he is an opposition politician, but municipal

1:02:25

officials—if you live in Moscow, then he

1:02:26

gets his salary from your

1:02:28

taxes, and in that sense he earns

1:02:31

his salary, because even with

1:02:33

the opposition he communicates the way one ought to communicate

1:02:35

with the opposition

1:02:36

our time is almost up. One very

1:02:38

small topic, and perhaps you've already

1:02:40

read about it on my blog—well, it's a

1:02:42

small but pleasant victory, a small

1:02:44

victory over idiocy. Did you see that

1:02:46

photograph for which our activist in

1:02:50

Arkhangelsk was charged? It's the famous photograph from the

1:02:52

Victory Parade (the Soviet/Russian WWII victory commemoration parade)

1:02:53

He was prosecuted for

1:02:55

displaying Nazi symbols, and he could have

1:03:00

as you can see in the photo, he could have been

1:03:03

put on the list of extremists, and I organized

1:03:05

a special campaign against idiocy because

1:03:07

to be honest, it infuriated me too

1:03:09

It's a well-known

1:03:10

wartime photograph from our history, and these

1:03:13

idiots—when I say 'these idiots,' I mean

1:03:15

everyone involved, really: the FSB, the Interior Ministry, the courts

1:03:18

everyone was involved, and at every link in this

1:03:20

chain they said, well yes, here's a person who

1:03:23

posted this photograph

1:03:24

it's in history textbooks, so apparently we

1:03:26

need to punish him for extremism and

1:03:29

fine him

1:03:30

and after we launched it—after I

1:03:32

told this story

1:03:34

thousands of people took part in the campaign

1:03:36

against idiocy by reposting, as a sign

1:03:39

of protest, this photograph. And today, in

1:03:42

the appellate court, he was acquitted

1:03:43

obviously under our pressure. I congratulate you all

1:03:45

on this. Let's work in such a way

1:03:48

that we can achieve at least small victories

1:03:51

over the idiocy of this government, of these idiots

1:03:55

there are many of them, they keep pressing on us, and for now, unfortunately, we are

1:04:00

losing to them overall. But when we

1:04:02

come together, we can deal

1:04:05

a fairly painful blow to idiocy and to idiots

1:04:07

and many thanks to everyone who watched

1:04:09

see you next Thursday

1:04:10

sign up as election observers—we'll catch

1:04:13

the crooks red-handed. Goodbye

1:04:16

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