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Hi. It's 8:00 p.m. in Moscow, which means
that here in the Navalny Live studio, it's time for the program *Russia*
*of the Future*, and I'm Alexei Navalny, or
a star rolling toward his political sunset,
as I was called this week.
By the TV channel Life News. Honestly, I
thought it no longer existed, that it had been
shut down, but apparently it still exists and even
comes up with such funny, uh,
headlines for my program, for which
many thanks to them. A lot of questions
are coming in. I'll try now to answer
them, on various topics. A reminder:
write to me on Twitter with the hashtag Russia
of the Future, and I'll try to take
those questions. Well, I've also pulled some from
the comments.
Well, that is, I'll try to answer
as much as I can. A lot of topics, a lot has
happened, but
I still want to start with the topic
that hardly anyone asked me about.
Sorry, everyone's covering it. Mars. Mars is
cool. And we—well, never mind whether it's Americans or not,
yes, the Americans sent
a spacecraft to Mars. Just imagine,
how damn far away
Mars is. And they sent a rocket
that flew there and somehow managed to land
this thing, and it will operate there for 720
days. That's fantastic. Let's be happy for
humanity. Of course, there is a certain disappointment for
us too, because our country used to be
the pioneer,
including when it came to
landing craft, and now all we have is Rogozin,
who drowns
a dachshund. I even asked them not to show that picture
of Rogozin drowning a dachshund. So that's
what Russian space exploration looks like. Earlier today
there was Vladimir Milov's program. Before me,
he did one about space. It's all very
sad there, but very interesting. Please watch
it.
So,
I, Sergei Brilyov, solemnly, sincerely,
and honestly swear by Almighty God that
upon becoming a British citizen I
will be faithful and bear true
allegiance to Her Majesty Queen
Elizabeth II, her heirs and
successors. According to law, I will maintain
loyalty to the United Kingdom and
respect its rights and freedoms. I
will uphold its democratic values. I
will faithfully observe its laws and
fulfill my duties and
obligations
as a British citizen. I don't know
whether Sergei Brilyov said this with his
hand on his heart. I don't know whether he was kneeling
on one knee. I don't know whether maybe they put,
as they do in England, some kind of
sword on one shoulder and then the other. Or whether he
had to kiss an official's feet
or something else, or whether he had to
demonstratively, as part of the ritual,
spit on his Russian passport. But he
did say it. He said it as an adult,
you understand? All of us became
citizens of Russia. Well, simply
because that's where we ended up. I was
a citizen of the Soviet Union, and like me
Brilyov later became a citizen of Russia.
I didn't take any special oath. And he
didn't either, though maybe when he
joined the Komsomol (the Soviet Communist youth organization), he said some kind of
oath. I said an oath too
when I became a Young Pioneer and an Octobrist (Soviet children's youth groups)
in the Soviet Union. But when you're just
a Russian citizen, you don't
publicly swear anything. But Brilyov,
as a mature adult, being, well,
someone who already works for
the state, who has a family, a wife, and he
said these words in complete seriousness.
I swear, I swear by Almighty God that
I will remain loyal to Britain
obligations. A British citizen,
blah blah. And now all of us, well, ever since
the last broadcast, this crook has
admitted it—we cornered him, he simply had
nowhere to retreat. Yes, he admitted
that he is a British citizen, he
admitted that we correctly found his
London property, but it's just amazing how
fiercely they defend him. Of course, the absolute
pinnacle of hypocrisy here is Dmitry Peskov. When
he was asked about it on Ekho Moskvy (Echo of Moscow, a radio station),
he said: "So what's the big deal? What's
wrong with that?" And Sergei Brilyov, well, for many
years now
we've known him as
an absolute patriot,
you understand?
Okay, I see something on our screen is upside down.
I hope that disappears now.
And we've known him as an absolute
patriot.
Seriously, sorry, I just switched
into Sergei
Brilyov's language—an absolute patriot. Well,
fine, even if you know him as
what you consider—well, of course, by
Peskov's standards—he's a patriot. We have an
inside joke here that Peskov's family could make up a small
NATO bloc.
One of his children is in one NATO country,
a citizen there; another child is in
another NATO country; a third in a third one,
and his wife is in yet another NATO country. It's
just this little
international battalion. But maybe
to Peskov that looks like
patriotism. But to also call this
man an absolute patriot,
a man who swore by Almighty
to God that he would remain loyal in
another country.
Well, of course. The height of hypocrisy, just
the absolute height of it. I’m telling you this as someone
who, every single time I
go abroad, whether for work or
for vacation or for anything else, there at the
airport I’m followed around by a whole battalion of these
little weirdos. Some with cameras, some
with phones. There’s always, without fail,
some guy sitting there, some kind of
FSB man (from Russia’s security service), who’s got his
phone pointed right at the boarding gate,
filming me while pretending
that he’s just sitting there, thinking about
the birds. It’s always incredibly obvious, it’s
very funny. They immediately post this
“secret footage” to some
Telegram channels and write: “Navalny has
left the country.” An interesting,
interesting move for a politician
claiming to be a leader of the opposition.
Somehow that doesn’t seem very patriotic. He’s probably
gone to see his masters. There you have it.
And yet all of them, you understand, swear by
Almighty God—they’re such believers, after all.
Honestly, how has lightning not
struck them, excuse my language, and burned them
to ashes for words like that? They
swear by Almighty God, they are citizens
of other states, and yet they’re absolute
patriots. And for Putin,
that’s normal, for this whole system
it’s normal. What’s interesting is that I still,
quite often, despite, well,
despite my extensive experience of
dealing with the authorities’ hypocrisy, I still often
think that somehow they’ll
react. Like, all right, we found some
property abroad. Well,
if we found out that he’s a British
citizen, that he swore an oath,
surely now they’ll at least gently
push him out. No, no, no—they’ll keep
him. He’ll stay right where he is, and everything
will remain exactly as it is. And then they’ll
pretend: “Well
uh, what’s the big deal? What’s the big deal?” Well
after all, we here in the Kremlin have never
never held anything against people
because they had ties abroad.
Never, not at all, we’ve
never done anything even remotely
like that.” And this is being said by the very people who,
since Brilev is a journalist, shook up
the entire media market like this.
Take the whole situation with *The New Times* magazine.
Why? Because there was some kind of
foreign money involved. It was labeled a
foreign agent. It was fined
22 million rubles (about hundreds of thousands of U.S. dollars). They’re trying to destroy
the magazine because some money
came in from abroad.
And these are Russian citizens. They’re
publishing a magazine—a truthful magazine—about
the Russian agenda, but they have to be
crushed. Amazing. Foreign
agents,
the newspaper *Vedomosti* and Demyan Kudryavtsev,
whom I’m no fan of. I’ve criticized him many times,
I don’t like him,
and I absolutely don’t like what they did
to *Vedomosti*. But, excuse me,
it is an absolute injustice
what is happening to them. Their
founding owners included *The Wall Street Journal* and the *Financial Times*.
They were forced to sell *Vedomosti*.
And that poor
Kudryavtsev is being pushed out of the country too,
because he has an Israeli passport.
But he isn’t even an official, he’s just
some guy, really. He’s involved in
some business, just going about his
own affairs, whether good or bad,
but he’s not living off state budget money. Even so,
they’re pressured from all sides, they’re
tormented—foreign agents, spies,
enemies. The European University at
St. Petersburg—they pressured it because
it had many foreign
professors. Foreign professors are,
of course, agents of influence; through them
harmful ideas are being planted.
Crush them, destroy them, grind them down,
trample them. Yes, all these propagandists,
yes, I posted this on
Twitter and, well, I’ll just show it here again
—I posted it on my blog too. Remember
the story with Rustem
Adagamov, back in the days
when there was the Coordination Council, and they
were opening criminal cases against all the members
of the Coordination Council left and right—well,
Adagamov had Norwegian citizenship, and
good Lord, how much he suffered for that.
And he got it in some perfectly natural
way. He had been going there for many years,
some relatives live there. I don’t
know the exact details. But there he was,
uh,
a citizen of Norway and at the same time
a citizen of Russia. And that was presented as
“look, the opposition has dual citizenship.”
“Just look at them, these opposition figures, they’re so
awful. See, Vladimir Solovyov (a pro-Kremlin TV host)
is corresponding with this other nasty
little guy. It’s just funny how the opposition
loves dual citizenship.”
And now these same people—let’s look at
what this Gorgadze is writing now.
Opening their little eyes wide in astonishment,
spreading their little hands, they look at us and
say: “My God, why are you
picking on Sergei Brilev? It’s only…”
Tell me, comrades, gentlemen
liberals and sympathizers, what exactly
is the problem?
What is it, exactly, that we’re supposedly not understanding, and what is all the fuss about?
A fuss? Well, it’s only that there’s some kind of
British citizenship held by the deputy head of VGTRK (Russia’s state broadcasting company). And
we just don’t understand what all the fuss is about. Well,
what brazen swine and hypocrites they are. This is
just some final stage of it all. But I
one thing that makes me— actually, two things, I’d even
say there are two things that drive me
into a rage, right?
Well, England—Britain now—it
aside from Ukraine, is practically
officially considered the most hostile
country toward Russia. Look at what
Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova says. Constantly,
she denounces those awful English. Dmitry
Kiselyov tears into them.
The Foreign Ministry is bursting with the most terrible,
curses directed at Britain,
which is supposedly staging some kind of,
endless provocations against Russia.
I mean, it’s practically, no more and no less than,
a potential enemy, or a country of
a probable adversary, as they used to say in the
USSR (Soviet Union). Right now, ask anyone on the
street which countries are the most hostile
to Russia. And a person who
watches television will say: "Well,
Ukraine, of course, and in second place
Britain, and in third place the United States."
And Brilyov sits on the public council
of the Ministry of Defense, despite the fact
that this is explicitly forbidden. And yet these are
the same people who constantly preach patriotism and
passed a special law. Well, in order
to make sure that some of those, what do you call them,
liberals or opposition types, wouldn’t accidentally
slip in there. As I understand it,
this was adopted because Lyudmila Alexeyeva,
the well-known human rights activist, had
American citizenship. And there were also quite a few
people among human rights activists who
had been expelled abroad back in Soviet times
and obtained citizenship
in some other country. And now they
have dual citizenship. And so that such
people wouldn’t get in, they passed a special
law stating that members of
public chambers cannot be
citizens of foreign states or
persons holding dual citizenship.
And Brilyov sits there. At the Ministry of Defense.
Well, maybe members of the public council
of the Ministry of Defense don’t have access to
state secrets, some kind of military
secret or anything like that, but still—
it’s the Ministry of Defense. You’re entering
places there, you’re,
well, at the very least you’re definitely sitting in
the minister’s office. You can get into
certain facilities. I spent my whole life living in
a closed military town. My parents live in
a military town—Krasnoznamensk. And
to get in there, I have to
go to the checkpoint every time, hand over my
passport, and they issue me a pass. And,
despite the fact that my parents
live there, there’s a notice posted there this
big saying that in order to get
onto the territory of our town, you need
some kind of letter signed personally by the
Minister of Defense. I remember that because
I was stunned. Maybe, of course, they’ve
changed the procedure by now, but I
was also amazed and thought, my God, how do
all those Tajik
workers, Uzbek workers get in here, because
it says there that a foreigner can
enter only with permission personally from the Minister
of Defense.
So it turns out that Brilyov, with his—I’ll never
get tired of repeating this—sincere and honest
oath before Almighty God of loyalty,
true allegiance to Her Majesty
the Queen, goes wandering everywhere.
He goes everywhere. He goes where we
Russian citizens are forbidden to enter,
because he is
a member of the Defense Ministry’s public council, and
before that he was a member of the public
council of the Interior Ministry.
The irony is that Brilyov,
if he is a citizen of a foreign
state, is required to notify the
relevant authority, and he is supposed to
notify the Interior Ministry. I mean, now directly
the Interior Ministry, and back then the Federal
Migration Service, the FMS, which
reported to the Interior Ministry and was part of its structure.
So he writes to the Interior Ministry. Well, I think he
didn’t write anything, of course—he’s lying about absolutely everything—but
in theory, what would that
look like? He writes to the Interior Ministry: Hello,
guys, I’m a citizen of the United Kingdom,
I swore true allegiance. The Interior Ministry
says, "All right." And a couple of years later
it appoints him to a public council where
he is barred from serving as a citizen of
Britain. Well, that means only one thing:
Brilyov, of course, never notified any
authorities. That carries criminal
liability under that same rather
idiotic and useless law that
the Kremlin passed to torment ordinary
citizens. We have loads of people who
simultaneously hold citizenship of Ukraine
and Russia, Belarus and Russia,
Turkmenistan and Russia. Good Lord, the Soviet
Union was just some endless
jumble of people with careers and fates
who lived in different countries and now
don’t even know whose citizens they are:
Moldova’s, Russia’s, Ukraine’s, Uzbekistan’s.
Russians lived everywhere. So they come here,
the poor things suffer because they can’t
get a Russian passport. Then they
do get a Russian passport, but they
still have some old
Uzbek one they used to have. They lived in
Tashkent. And the lives of these people are very
is made more complicated by all this nonsense and garbage,
because there are a ton of restrictions. You're
basically a foreigner, basically treated like an enemy,
you have to report things about yourself.
So an ordinary person gets pushed around, while this
British citizen
serves at VGTRK (the All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company) as deputy director
general. Well, of course,
this certainly tells us something, on the one hand, about
these procedures of
secrecy, yes, the procedures for checking
someone's background, and in general about what
is going on there—well, what's going on there is simply
a complete mess. We found out that,
uh, Brilev is a foreign citizen, and
the Defense Ministry's counterintelligence, which
is directly supposed to determine whether
a foreign citizen is wandering around the General Staff building or going into
Shoigu's office past completely
top-secret things—whether a foreign
citizen is doing that. They didn't find that out. But on the
other hand, again, it's total
hypocrisy. Of course, they all have
dual citizenship.
Either their children have dual citizenship, or they
dream of having dual citizenship themselves.
Probably not all of them have something as
prestigious as British citizenship. More like some
passport from Saint Kitts and Nevis
or whatever it's called, or from some
Bahamas island or other. They've all got them
hidden under the pillow somewhere, so that if anything happens
they can get on a plane. Goodbye. Goodbye,
Russia. Goodbye, Russians.
I'm leaving and taking a couple of billion with me, while
you sit there like fools in your snow,
poor, with the retirement age raised,
while I'm here smoking a cigar on the
Bahamas. They're all like that. This is
a disgusting,
lying regime, absolutely colonial in its
essence. That's what it is. Why did Brilev
admit everything? Not because he somehow felt he had
to answer to us. The one thing that really makes him
uncomfortable is this: if he were to
deny it and publicly say, "Navalny
is lying, and I don't have any citizenship,
any nationality, as all those propagandists first started writing,
he could have
done that. And what could we have
set against it? No UK Home Office
is ever going to give me
a certificate saying that Brilev is a foreign
citizen. Unless—until—we caught
him literally holding his passport open like this,
there was no other proof. Well,
he is in the database. That's substantial
evidence. He could have said it was all
lies, the way they've said many times before. Yes,
lies. There's no dacha, no nothing. Just some papers.
He could have said that. But he has
neighbors, he has a border officer,
he has some respectable British
society he socializes with.
He probably has a school,
a privileged one, that his
child attends, and later there'll probably be a university. And,
well, they sit among these people. And
patriotism in Britain is, well,
an important thing. Everyone knows that
you swore allegiance to the Queen. So
the next time he was sitting there,
I don't know, with the parents of his daughter's classmates,
someone might ask him:
"Sergei, maybe we've
misunderstood something, but we
read in *The Times*
that you renounced it and said you don't have
our citizenship. So you must have turned in
your passport, right? Because we're, we're, we're
proper, stiff British people who
drink tea. Not from just any cup, but from
some properly British one. We
simply cannot imagine a situation where you
first swore allegiance to our Queen,
and then suddenly said, 'Nothing of the sort
ever happened.'"
And Brilev is very uncomfortable in this
situation in front of them. As for us, he
doesn't care, because this is a colonial
administration. To them, we're natives.
Running around naked with drums and with these
things around our necks and those things,
you know, the ones under the lip, like in pictures in
*National Geographic*. These funny little
people running around,
people with spears, and there's oil
in the ground there. Then wonderful
planters and colonizers like Sergei
Brilev arrive. They smoke cigarettes through some
fancy gadget, pump out the oil, and
go back home. And after working a little
in these awful, awful conditions in
Russia, they then tell each other
amusing stories about the funny
habits of the natives—how they do all sorts of
ridiculous things, what drunkards they are, how
they're just not like us. They're not
civilized, they're dirty, they don't even have
manicures. Not at all. So I'm just so
glad to be back with our own kind again,
gentlemen, to have some tea or a bit of whisky
or whatever else. And this, of course,
is an important thing. I want as many
people as possible to understand that Putin
has established a colonial
administration here. That is, he—well, he—
of course doesn't run around reporting
to someone else; he isn't
a governor-general who
answers to somebody above him. But he himself is
more like a kind of foreign monarch who
rules here over these, uh,
colonizers.
But of course they all want to leave. They
want to live some good, decent
life over there, not here.
The last thing I want to say is,
And on this subject, there’s something that, well,
is already basically criminal, right, and we
are demanding that VGTRK (Russia’s state broadcasting company) now be
declared a foreign agent. After all, there
is a person there who exerts
significant influence over editorial
policy. There is. We want Sergei
Brilyov not to explain on Facebook where
people like us belong, but instead to go to his own
audience directly and say:
"Guys, you know, it turns out that
there’s this thing. Well, not exactly that it turned out—I thought
you all already knew, but I’m actually
a British citizen, uh, well, that doesn’t
affect anything. I’m going to keep
doing my program and keep
telling you how great life is
in Russia. Don’t pay attention to the fact
that I’m a British citizen." Of course, he
won’t do that. And neither he
nor VGTRK will be declared
a foreign agent. But this whole foreign-agent
issue—just look at it
in this context, how monstrously
it looks. Remember there was a foundation called
Dynasty.
Russian businessman Dmitry Zimin
founded the company Beeline, which everyone knows.
He built it from scratch and made
a substantial amount of money from it, and then
he spent that money supporting scientists,
funding various books—in other words,
he was simply doing something wonderful,
something truly admirable.
He was declared a foreign agent because,
well, after selling Beeline,
his money was sitting in some
foreign bank. And then he transferred that money
from the foreign bank here to
Russia and gave it to Russian scientists. So
a Russian citizen, a Russian
man, was giving other Russian people his own
Russian money. He was declared a foreign
agent. The foundation was shut down, and now he
can no longer give money. Those scientists
were left without funding.
An even more extreme and simply
outrageous case: maybe you heard about when
they got onto this whole thing of fighting
NGOs labeled as foreign agents—they shut down
an NGO in Saratov that helped people
with diabetes. And, uh, well, in Russia who
is it that gives money—what wealthy people donate
to fight diabetes? Uh, they were getting
money from foreigners. But they were asking
some foreign foundations, writing:
"Hello, we’re from Saratov, people here
are dying from diabetes. Please give us
$20,000 so that we can
buy them insulin and provide syringes."
And the foreigners would say: "All right, we’ll give
you $20,000 because, well,
your rich people—Abramovich and
Usmanov—they mostly invest in yachts.
Fine, we’ll give it to you so that
someone in Saratov can be treated." They
were shut down. They were declared foreign
agents and shut down. And then a young woman died
in Saratov afterward because she did not
receive
her medication in time. She did not receive
treatment in time. For several months she
was trying to get the medication she was legally entitled to—
insulin or whatever else she needed—
because she was entitled to it by law.
She didn’t get it, and she died because
those bastards declared the foundation a foreign
agent and shut it down.
And Brilyov, you understand, was at the head of this
disgusting
structure that destroyed this young woman,
drove her to her death—there sat Sergei
Brilyov and Dmitry Peskov, all of whom are
completely entangled with foreign countries
up to their ears. And yet they say: "Well, if
someone sent money to Saratov and they bought
insulin with foreign money—foreign agents,
let them die, so long as nothing like that happens."
But
the next phrase that came into my
head was something like: these people should be executed.
I am fundamentally opposed to the death
penalty, so I will not say: "These
people should be executed," but they really do need
to all be imprisoned. They need to be imprisoned. They
should be marched in disgrace through the
streets of cities. They should be sent for
re-education, made to sit through
some kind of courses, and then publicly
repent. That starts to sound like some kind of
Chinese Red Guards. No, well, that’s
probably too much as well. Of course.
But let’s think about how these people
really should be punished, because
they are killers and hypocrites,
disgusting crooks. That is exactly why
you should join our campaign, our
Project 2019. Damn, I spent 26 minutes
talking about Brilyov and couldn’t
stop. I hope
I’ll still manage to cover a few other topics.
Join in, because, uh, this
regime rests on many things.
Bought judges, corrupt
police, total lies on state TV channels,
Brilyov, and so on. But one of the
most important supports of this rotten table
is, of course, the United Russia party,
which now controls everything. And we
have launched a project to fight
United Russia’s monopoly. I know all
your arguments; I’ll answer some
questions now. You’ll say to me: "Well, it’s
not just United Russia—there are also
the Communists, A Just Russia,
they’re all very similar." That’s true, they
really are all very similar, but they
are similar. And all these Communists,
A Just Russia, the LDPR members — they are in
such a pitiful state because they have
nothing.
They can’t even dare to speak up or
get cocky, because everywhere, 90, 80,
70 percent of everything is controlled by United Russia. And
our project is very simple. It concerns
non-party lists. That is the main
difference. A lot of people now
keep reminding me that I haven’t
come up with anything new. It’s the same thing you proposed
back in 2011: vote for any
party against United Russia. Back then there were
party lists. After we
ran our campaign and lowered the rating of
United Russia, they all but
got rid of party lists in the regions and very sharply,
in any case, reduced them and kept
winning everywhere, because everywhere
there is a single-member district candidate. That
single-member candidate is from United Russia. Say, in
some Ryazan City Duma (city council), or in
the city council of your district, or in
the legislative assembly of your region.
United Russia candidates always won because they had
a guaranteed base there of 35%. And
everyone else gets split up. And now,
why am I announcing this now? Well, in
a sense, a window of
opportunity has opened, because first,
voter turnout has fallen sharply; fewer
people are going to these elections, and
with a smaller number of votes we can
affect the results. Second:
the increase in the retirement age. It’s just that
right now, among those who always go to
vote — pensioners — there has emerged
a fairly large number of people
who now always vote against United
Russia. Let’s now briefly
take a few seconds, one minute, on the
math behind this smart voting,
after which I’ll continue. Hi, this is
Navalny, and now I’ll tell you how
we are going to defeat United Russia in
elections. A typical United Russia candidate in
regional elections in a large city
gets between 35 and 45 percent.
Against the United Russia candidate, the majority of voters
vote for other candidates — 55
or 65 percent. But those votes are split
among the so-called systemic
opposition. Some go to the Communist,
some to Zhirinovsky’s party. A Just Russia
gets a little, Yabloko gets a little,
someone else gets a little. And just like that, your
interests in the local parliament are once again
represented by a United Russia member. How hard would it really
be for us to agree
to vote United Russia out? Not hard.
We need to bring to the polls
just an additional 3 percent of new
voters. And among those who have already
voted against United Russia, we need
to persuade one-third to vote smart — that is,
to consolidate, according to our plan,
around a single candidate. That is more than
realistic,
guys. I know what your main
question is. I keep track of what people ask. Here’s
one of the main questions. People say to me:
“Alexei: why the hell should we
vote for the systemic parties?”
The Communists, the LDPR. Why not give us
some decent people instead, and we’ll
vote for them?”
Sure. Of course I want to vote
for decent people, but those candidates aren’t
allowed to run. Our party isn’t being registered,
so it would be a great system
if we could, for example, nominate
this list of decent people. We will
of course nominate one for the elections to the
Moscow City Duma. In strong districts, we will nominate
excellent candidates, and you
will see that they are the strongest
candidates. But there is a high probability
that they won’t be allowed to run, our party won’t be
registered, and so regardless
the elections will still come, and still
40 percent of the population, maybe 20 percent,
will go to vote. We can ignore it,
and let United
Russia keep controlling 80 percent. But right now
the situation is such that with relatively
small efforts, if we
agree among ourselves and understand that, well, here in
this district, really, our
candidate whom we nominated — if he
is still on the ballot, let’s go vote for him.
Where our candidates were not allowed to run, we
will simply vote for candidate number
two — a Communist or an A Just Russia candidate.
Of course, that Communist
or A Just Russia candidate, or that LDPR member, may
turn out to be a rather unpleasant
character, but our task is this:
if United Russia has 70 percent,
to bring it down to 60, or better yet 40 — then
that systemic opposition will start acting
differently. The next argument I hear
all the time is: so what, you want
to make us vote for
the Communists? Fine, we voted for
the Communists, and then they either joined United
Russia or started doing the same thing
that United Russia does. Yes, they did
start doing that now, because when
Communists — or, let’s say, non-
United Russia candidates — get elected somewhere, that is
an absolutely isolated case. Say
someone became governor, but his
legislative assembly is meanwhile completely
packed with United Russia people. Everywhere, nothing but
United Russia members. All the deputies are from United Russia.
He can’t do anything. But when
we reduce the level of voting for United
Russia and deprive them of their majority, you
you’ll see that this opposition will be a completely
different kind of opposition. But right now,
no one needs to negotiate with
any other parties, because they’re nobody.
They’re there, living under the table and
begging for scraps. But when, in order to pass
some law, United Russia needs
to go and strike a deal with someone,
then maybe the law won’t be so
idiotic—and that’s exactly what will happen. The law
won’t be so idiotic. Right here,
my friends, is the ideal situation:
we have a party,
we nominate people, we hold
primaries, identify the best candidates,
and then in the election we enthusiastically campaign
for our best candidates. But here
is the current situation, which is that
everywhere, 90% are from United Russia.
Sure, it would be great if something happened
and we suddenly jumped straight to that point.
And we’ll be doing a lot of things as well. So
we’re not giving up rallies, or
investigations, or anything else. In other words,
we believe it would be right
to move straight there. But if we can’t
make that move,
then let’s at least move over here.
Let’s move to the point where United
Russia has lost its majority at least in
the biggest cities—Moscow and St. Petersburg.
Let’s move to where United
Russia is reduced to a minority. Places where,
well, it has already lost gubernatorial
elections: Irkutsk Region, Khabarovsk
Region, Vladimir Region. All of this
can be done, and of course it must be done.
Now, these systemic parties are not our heroes,
let’s be honest. And we will have
to work for people who are not
our heroes at all and are generally questionable figures,
but we’re still working for ourselves, because
this is about breaking United Russia’s monopoly.
The third argument I want to touch on today.
Ah, well, I just saw on Facebook
and VKontakte that people are writing:
“So you’re suggesting I vote for the LDPR
or for some communist—Stalinists?”
Never in my life. What am I, an idiot?
You are not voting for a communist or for
a Stalinist. You are voting for a function. You
are voting
for there to be fewer United Russia members.
Right now they’re a monolith; they control
everything. So let’s at least take these
hopeless United Russia people—these Sergeis and Brilyovs—and
dilute them with a couple, three,
or better yet a dozen
representatives from other parties. There will,
of course, be some
communists, Stalinists, and various other
people—but they are different. Communists
are different too. Some of them are fairly
decent, and some are not, but in
any case, some kind of confrontation will begin.
These will be new
parliaments at the city level,
legislative assemblies where there is at least
some clash between factions. And we will
watch it happen. Say, in the Moscow City Duma,
one faction argues with another because
they can’t push through a United Russia
bill. You have to admit, that’s far
better than what we have now. Right now you
don’t hear anything about this at all, because
United Russia passes any laws it wants
just like that. The Presidential Administration
sends over a bill, and it gets passed within
a day, because United Russia
controls the entire process—committees,
commissions, everything. So if at least
a couple of committees are controlled by other
parties, that is still, you have to admit,
much better. All right, I see questions here, and
I’m being asked one. Ruslan asks:
“Alexei, in Moscow the systemic parties
aren’t popular. If people used to run under their banners,
it was only because they were afraid of being barred from the ballot.”
But those fears didn’t materialize. And, Ruslan, this is
a popular point of view—and an equally
completely wrong one. What do you mean
“not popular”? Go and look
at the election results in Moscow for the
Moscow City Duma. In 18 districts, communists
came in second and got more than
20%.
A Just Russia is popular too. The LDPR isn’t popular in
Moscow or St. Petersburg, but the communists,
A Just Russia, and various
independent candidates are quite
popular. In that sense, this is really just
a widespread misconception
among people living in the centers of big cities, who
think, “Well, among us here,
no one is going to vote for
communists, because we’re all such
educated, respectable people.” But all the centers
of education and science in Russia,
Novosibirsk Akademgorodok (a major Soviet-era scientific research hub),
places like Obninsk, the centers
of the biggest cities—look there, and you’ll see that
in Moscow’s Gagarinsky District, where
all those who work in the Academy of
Sciences live—who is the deputy there? A communist.
They vote that way out of protest, and so
they vote for the systemic opposition. There isn’t another one,
and people are simply used to going to
elections, and they will keep going to elections. And
even in those elections that should
properly be boycotted—and such elections do exist and
will continue to exist—I wasn’t able
to convince them this time. They went anyway.
Well, I convinced some, not others. They
went and voted. They’re used to it. But let
this voting at least serve some purpose.
We will vote in a coordinated way
to knock out the United Russia candidate. That is exactly why
our project exists. I still have a lot more to say
I’ll spend some time answering questions.
Let’s do a few more. Uh, a couple more.
I’ll take a couple more, but I’ll keep
answering them constantly, because until I
can persuade,
well, 15% of the country’s voters—which is a lot.
It’s a big, ambitious task.
Not an easy one. To win, uh, for example,
in Moscow and St. Petersburg we need a much
smaller number of people. But across the
country as a whole, I want to convince 15% of the population that
this is how they need to vote—
in a coordinated way. Then we really will
deprive United Russia of its majority everywhere. And
it will be a different country, despite, I don’t
know, the police, the courts, and everything else.
So I’m going to devote a lot of attention to this.
A few more questions now.
Unicorn Gerald asks me: “What’s the point
of Smart Voting if you’re
being denied party registration?”
Unicorn “Gerald.” Well, that’s exactly why I’m
proposing Smart Voting.
If I had a party—if you and I had our
unicorn party—we wouldn’t need
to come up with any kind of Smart Voting.
I’d be sitting here with you saying, “Guys,
vote for the Russia of the Future party,”
which is what my program is called, because
it’s the best party. And you’d say to me,
Unicorn Gerald supports me. No
problem, Lyosha, I’ll vote for you. But
we can’t do that, because
we don’t have a party, because Putin
understands that our party would fairly
quickly defeat him. And you and I,
Unicorn, face a basic choice. Either we
ignore elections altogether and say,
they’re dishonest, they’re dishonest, they’re
unfair, they’re unfair. And
we just don’t care—we don’t want to use them
as a mechanism at all. That’s
fine. We have, well, other things
to do besides that. But then the
40% of the population that still goes
to vote says to us: “Guys,
have you abandoned us? Hello, Alexei,
Unicorn, Gerald—have you
left us behind? We watch your program too.”
We’re, well, we’re going to the polls. Just tell
us who to vote for. We can’t
opt out. We’re used to it. We believe in
the procedure, blah blah. We’re election observers,” they’ll
say, yes. So, uh, while you’re
off doing your own
great things, at least give us
instructions on what to do in the election.”
So that’s what we’re giving them—guidance. I’m not saying
this is the main grand strategy. We
won’t do only this and nothing else. We’ll
be doing many things. But if you
still go to elections, I insist that
going to vote without taking part in
the 2019 Smart Voting system
is meaningless. It has absolutely
no point. Vote smart,
vote with purpose.
Hedgehog in the Fog joins the unicorn
and says: “Why should I vote
for someone I don’t like?” Because
why can’t I vote for
a United Russia candidate if I like him? Not all
United Russia members are bad. Great question, Hedgehog.
All United Russia members are bad, because they are
members of the United Russia party. From that
point of view, they are part of a monopoly that
doesn’t let anyone else in. And just because
this particular United Russia member, in personal interactions,
may seem like a nice enough guy to you,
well, let him remain a nice enough guy and
go take a walk down the street. But
when he runs for office,
he is building a huge wall that
protects
the authorities from you, Hedgehog in the Fog, from
Unicorn Gerald, from Alexei
Navalny, from the Communists, the LDPR, from
everyone under the sun. Taken together, they’ve built
a fence and they let no one in. But right now the system is arranged
so that you and I can’t even
get near that fence. So, well,
some fairly weak
people have been allowed in, people who can’t climb
over the fence. Right now, you and I are simply
building a ladder,
and with that ladder we’ll at least try to get these
weak little guys from the systemic parties
over the fence. And
once we get enough of them over
in sufficient numbers, dear Hedgehog in the Fog, they
will, after all, be able to oppose United Russia there
in some way. One way or another, they’ll
be weakened. And then you and I—Navalny,
Hedgehog, and Unicorn Gerald—
will break down the gates ourselves and walk in
and win real elections with
real candidates. And now Anna Rey
asks me: “Alexei, about
your Smart Voting—don’t you think
that United Russia members could simply
move into controlled parties if
those start winning? That would also create
the appearance of democracy.” Well no, they won’t,
of course, switch over. And
let me rephrase the question this way: all sorts of
local, regional guys—well,
some, I don’t know, local businessmen
or local activists, the kind of
hustling, maybe even somewhat
amoral types—right now they think: “Aha, I
want to become a deputy; where do I need
to go? To United Russia.” And they go to
United Russia. And United Russia says,
“Well, if you want to become a deputy,
kiss Sergei Brilyov’s foot. And lick
Putin’s portrait. So there you are—you have to
kiss the foot, lick the portrait, and then you become
a United Russia member. But as a result of Smart
through voting, we will create a system in which
some local, I don’t know,
businessman or activist will think: "But I’m not going to join
United Russia (the ruling pro-Kremlin party), because
it’s difficult there, because Navalny
together with Hedgehog and Gerald the Unicorn,
have set up Smart Voting, and
now a United Russia candidate in the center of any
major city, first and foremost, will have a hard time
getting elected. I’d better go
join some other systemic
party instead. That’s what we want to achieve."
Again, this is a fight against monopoly.
Your vote is a vote
against United Russia’s monopoly
and most often, let’s be honest, it is a vote for
a rather unpleasant guy, because
the decent guys won’t be allowed onto the ballot, and
the decent guys... I mean, for the Moscow City Duma
we are putting people forward.
Ilya Yashin wants to run. He’s a great
candidate, even though he hasn’t previously
taken part in elections and doesn’t have
a track record of winning
a lot of votes, but we understand that he is
a strong candidate. Yankauskas, Milov,
there are some Yabloko party people who have received
high percentages. Our own Kolya
Lyaskin wants to run. I hope that the Anti-Corruption Foundation
will nominate a couple of
people, and we will create a fair
system in which, well, we
will try, as much as possible. In
80% of cases, it will be a fairly
technical decision. We will see who
came in second. In another 10% of cases
it will also be fairly easy to understand who the
strongest candidate is. There will be 10% of
conflict or disputed situations, but we
will still make a decision that is
political, deliberate, but fair and
honest. And you will see that it is, uh,
political, but fair and honest.
And these will be decent people. You’ll be glad
to root for them. But what can the damned
authorities do? They will try to
get rid of all the decent guys and girls. And
the girls and the guys—they will try to
wipe them all out politically.
They will wipe them out. Most likely, it will feel
very unpleasant, because we will have to
vote only for all the others. But that is what we
will do, because they still
weaken United Russia. I am going to
talk about this a great, great deal and
for a very, very long time.
I’ll even release videos specifically about it. And
keep asking these questions. All
the questions you write to me now,
I will carefully note down, group together, and
answer. Next, I really do
need to say something to you about Kerch,
because,
well, of course, it is the main
topic everyone is discussing.
I won’t hide it: the fact that all this
has become the main topic of discussion
has irritated me, because, well,
Putin’s goal, essentially,
is being achieved. You and I are not discussing
Brilev, not the introduction of VAT on sausage, not
the falling standard of living. Instead, once again, we are discussing
some Kerch incident, some unclear thing.
That is, once again we are discussing some kind of
aggression against Ukraine or aggression on behalf of
Ukraine. In other words, Putin’s goal
is being achieved. Russian citizens are once again
discussing foreign policy problems. And
when people discuss foreign policy
issues, something short-circuits in many people’s
heads, and basically they
think they need to support any—uh,
no, rather, they think that any position
coming from the television is some kind of
pro-Russian position. Therefore, they believe they must
support what’s on TV, support
Putin, because that is what
patriotism consists of.
And the leader of them all, the absolute patriot Sergey
Brilev, carefully presents on television
a kind of framework for how we all
are supposed to speak. And right now, of course, that
framework is that Ukraine
committed a monstrous provocation.
So, we have dealt with that provocation.
Let’s start with this:
that
uh
conceptually, so to speak. I don’t even want
to get into discussing right now
maritime law or anything else.
Let’s just, as reasonable people,
work it out logically. So who is more
in the right here: Russia or Ukraine? I just want
us, as ordinary normal
people, to cast aside all the nonsense. Let’s
start by simply looking at
the map,
at what that place looks like. You can see that
Mariupol is in one place, and
Odesa is in another.
How can a ship from Mariupol sail
to Odesa except through this
Kerch Strait? How, in general, can it get out of
the Sea of Azov, where a significant part of the coastline belongs to
Ukraine—we are not even discussing
Crimea right now, whose it is or isn’t—but they
have no other objective way
except to pass through that strait.
So in such cases, well, what happens is
again, the reasonable thing. People
say: "Well then, the Sea of Azov is
an inland sea of Russia and Ukraine." And
we all sail through it as we wish,
simply observing navigation rules,
because that is logical. If we have decided
to take this kind of position, then to hell with
them. They’re supposedly so bad there, doing whatever...
Poroshenko says—or maybe they say in the Rada (the Ukrainian parliament)—
they shout: "Those scoundrel Ukrainians." Or just
that we don't like them. Or say something like this:
it so happened that this shore is ours on this side,
and this shore is ours on that side too. So
we won't allow it—let them pay us money.
If we've decided to act so cleverly, then
we shouldn't forget this—I've just shown you this little
piece of the map. Move it
a little lower. Let's move it a little
lower and see what happens if we're not
the only ones being so clever. That's not the piece
of the map. I need a different one.
All right, apparently there is no second piece of the map.
Well then, fine, I'll appeal to your
knowledge of geography.
The Black Sea is enclosed in exactly the same way
as the Sea of Azov. There too, there are two
shores and a very narrow passage there—
the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. And on one side
there is Turkey, and on the other side there is Turkey. And
if Erdogan suddenly starts doing what
we are doing, saying: "Who do those
Russians [ __ ] think they are? Hell, I don't even
know who else is on the Sea of Azov—why
are they barging in on me? This is mine. And let
let's switch things on here now and start
using our border patrol boat there to bully
someone around."
And what are we supposed to do in that situation?
Well, that's exactly why international
law exists—international maritime law,
to say: "Look, if there is no
other way to sail out of
our inland sea, say, into the
Mediterranean or the Atlantic Ocean,
to go catch herring, then, well, you are obliged
to let them pass. That's how it works—you are obliged
to let them pass." And in that sense, well, there's no need
to stage this clown show and
invent some special measures
against these Ukrainian boats,
whether military or civilian, I don't know. Well, if
there is no other route, they must
be allowed through, just as for us there is no
other route to sail into the Mediterranean.
So the Turks let us through.
It's a NATO country, and we sail through, uh,
to go do something involving Syria or whatever.
And our relationship with Turkey is quite complicated.
Still, we sail through, and they must
let us pass. There is no other route, because
if you close the only
sea route there, then that is effectively
a declaration of war. You shouldn't do that. And
in that sense, unquestionably, it is
the Russian authorities who are now acting
rashly, which of course is very much
to the advantage of the Ukrainian authorities. Here I
know I've immediately stepped onto thin ice. And
the comments will be full of
angry Ukrainians who
believe that it is absolutely
impossible and unacceptable to criticize their, uh,
leadership. But unquestionably, right now this is
a win-win situation both for Poroshenko
and for Putin. And this martial
law that has now been introduced in
Ukraine, and this decree on martial
law—uh, you know, here, generally speaking,
I don't like commenting on
Ukrainian events, because, well, I
basically believe—and this is well known—that
the war with Ukraine was started
so that we would endlessly discuss
Ukraine and not discuss our own situation.
Because, quite rightly, people tell us:
why are you meddling in
our affairs at all? Discuss your own Russia. I
completely agree. Ukraine doesn't interest me;
I'm interested in Russia, but
still. Listen, let's
be honest, yes? Let's take Putin
for a moment. Good Lord, this is going to be
awkward. Twenty seconds of
Putin saying something that's actually hard not to
agree with.
And how are border guards supposed to act?
Military vessels entered the territorial
waters of the Russian Federation and are not responding.
It's unclear what they intend to do.
There are clear signs of, uh,
a provocation prepared in advance,
designed specifically so that afterward
it could be used as a pretext
to introduce martial law
in the country.
Let's be honest again: in
Ukraine, martial law was not introduced
when there was actual, full-scale war—tanks,
planes were going down, people were being shot at every day.
We saw a real war there. They did not
introduce martial law. They did not introduce
martial law when...
There were hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing, and martial
law was not introduced. Now they brought it in over
some incident that, in essence, was of course simply
utterly minor. Well, on the scale
of what was happening there, there was
one person wounded, people arrested—well,
of course not entirely insignificant, but
compared with what had happened before, let's
say it plainly—and suddenly
the entire Ukrainian leadership
snapped to attention,
put on camouflage uniforms, and declared that
they, uh,
had to introduce martial law.
But why now? Yes, it's obvious why
they act this way—well,
let's put it this way,
cynical politicians in every country and
at all times do this. It's not just Ukraine. Because
on the eve of an election, it benefits you
to completely shift the agenda, not
to discuss corruption or
anything else. You declare martial
law, and you become the king of the information space.
the agenda. You tell everyone: "Right, this is not the time
to discuss, I don't know, things like fuel prices,
it's not the time to discuss some
rumors about corruption in my government,
when we're under martial law. Because
guys, I don't have time right now to sit here with
you. I have to go to a meeting,
and I need to put on this military cap
right now,
dust off my epaulettes and go to the
military council meeting to
discuss brilliant military operations."
Like, I'll put Ukraine's fleet on
combat alert, because, well, we all
understand that this is complete
nonsense. And of course it's convenient, right before
the election, to impose martial law. And everyone
is happy.
Putin is happy, and Poroshenko is happy too.
It's also very telling that this
video, uh, of the, well,
border guards,
uh,
moving in. Let's watch it. There should be
all those kinds of words bleeped out in it.
Have you seen it? Let's watch it
again. 37 seconds. 10. Stop
engines. Stop engines.
Turning to port.
Port thrust.
Port thrust acknowledged.
Helm, increase.
Reversing.
get out
[music]
come on
come on, all of it
left
821
forward
port thrust to the side, left
Bar KP
reverse, stop engines
helm acknowledged on board
By the way, I should note: if anyone needs
proof of who exactly
initiated this provocation, then this
video, well, it quite clearly
shows that the whole thing was a
Russian operation, because on an FSB vessel,
you know that these days even ordinary
personnel, ordinary soldiers, are forbidden
to have smartphones.
They're forbidden to use social
media, forbidden to take photos, and these
security officers run around, the ones
from what is called the special department
of the Ministry of Defense, making sure
the soldiers aren't filming anything. And then
immediately after this event, footage
shot on an FSB vessel
ends up online. And right away it
is discussed on television. But obviously
that's exactly the point, and then there's also this
whole thing: "Crush him, crush him." Very
revealing. Here's what I wanted to tell you. We
have this great tool called
Trending Today, which, uh, shows the most
interesting things on social media. I
really recommend using it. Search for
Trending Today, because we
saw that on the day this recording was published,
it was simultaneously being
gleefully used by both
politicized
well, that is, Russian propagandists
and politicized Ukrainians. So
let's take a look. For
Russian propagandists, this really
became a symbol of toughness. They weren't at all
embarrassed that there was an officer there, that
some captain was shouting obscenities
and behaving in a way that, well, wasn't exactly
very dignified. No, it was, it was
awesome. There was also this tweet, which I
liked. It said that this "Crush him." Well
and then, with more profanity, it should become
the motto of Russia's foreign policy.
They just love
this kind of crude, pathetic brutality.
A boat rams someone there, no big deal. And
so, as Russia, we're apparently supposed to
run everyone over with this boat too. And
the Ukrainian blogosphere, well, it
naturally,
of course, pushed this recording just as much
but from the other
side, saying: "Just look
at them, they're just animals, they're
not people. That's not an officer, that's a brute, and he
well, this is an obvious display of aggression,
uh, and so on and so on and so
forth." And that's why I say that this is, basically,
for politicians, for the
political establishment, for the
current leadership of one
country and the other, a win-win situation.
Of course, the ones who lost out were, first and foremost,
Russian citizens, because
the dollar went up, the ruble
fell, which means prices will
rise, and some new sanctions will be imposed.
So while those people over there
are enjoying themselves, having fun. This whole
propaganda gang thinks it's great:
"Crush him." And we'll be the ones to pay for all of it.
It's all very, uh, very sad. By the way,
speaking of "crush him"—I was curious,
so I looked into who else the FSB crushes. And
when these FSB border patrol boats
ram other people in the same way, it actually
looks a lot less
glamorous. Let's watch a short clip from Kamchatka
(a peninsula in Russia's Far East).
No, it's fine, it didn't get tangled.
[music]
Well, I assume they were some kind of
poachers, of course. They set...
the net and the border guards—well, it looks
it really does look like sheer brutality. Well,
did you really absolutely have to
run over their boat? If they are
poachers, then detain them,
seize those nets, seize the boat afterward. But
why was all of this necessary? It's this kind of
swagger, just brazen
swagger from people who were given
an ID, were given weapons, and so
they think they absolutely need to
drive over that boat there, and then
from the deck talk to that poacher,
who became a poacher because he has
nothing to eat, excuse me, because
there is no other work there. And to talk to
him like that. You have to admit, it no longer
looks so cool and powerful. This whole
"crush him. You take him on the right, I’ll take him on the left."
when this kind of thing is done to Russian citizens,
it doesn’t look nearly as
interesting. So, what I want
to say is that, unfortunately, this provocation
is undoubtedly Putin’s, and now they will
keep, I don’t know, savoring it and
enjoying it and extracting benefits from it.
And, uh, the two countries—or rather, I
of course don’t mean Ukraine as a whole,
but the leadership of Ukraine, which
will now happily keep
playing this game. They and Putin will keep tossing
the ball back and forth, and there will be this
cute little game about how
let’s not discuss the internal problems
of our countries, let’s discuss this endless
Kerch situation. But I, for one, would like to discuss
social issues, especially since we
have noticed that the social
agenda, which in principle should be present
in the media and, well, in internet media like this,
and on YouTube, for example, is basically
treated as some kind of marginal topic. Nobody
ever discusses it. And we, well,
as an experiment, simply
went a couple of times with the doctors’ union. I
have spoken about this on the program—they
carry out inspections of hospitals. So, uh,
they went to the hospital in Vidnoye,
where doctors are being fired and wages are
tiny, despite the fact that the Moscow region is
wealthy. Then they went to
Balashikha, where doctors are basically treated, well, like
traffic cops, you know? Traffic cops are told:
"Go on, collect bribes. At the end
of the shift, you have to hand over 10,000 rubles
to the shift supervisor, and he has to hand over 5,000
to someone else, and someone else hands over another
3,000 to somebody else. And so you get this pyramid,
a pyramid, a pyramid. And it turns out that
right now in healthcare, this kind of
pyramid exists. And dentists,
for example,
are told: "Come on, you’re rich
dentists, why are you pretending to be poor here?"
You should be paying 15,000 rubles every month."
And nothing helps them, nothing gets
done. And what’s interesting is that this
union activity—we are following it with great
interest, documenting it—actually works. They
removed one chief physician after our first
report, and after the second report they
suspended this
deputy chief physician, who
was extorting bribes and building this
corruption pyramid. In that sense,
we want to cover more and more
things like this—specifically social
issues in healthcare and education.
So why am I saying all this?
First, support this doctors’ union.
And second, uh, write to us
—the Doctors’ Alliance—write to us and tell us
whether you like that we are making
segments and reports on this topic or not.
Is it worth devoting more
time to this, or would you rather I
just keep churning out politics here—Ukraine,
Solovyov, Kiselyov, Brilyov, and all that
stuff? About music and, Lord forgive me, about
rappers. Never.
Things are arranged in such a way that apparently I will never
be able to stop talking about them,
because remember, Putin declared the Year of
Youth after we held the rallies on March 26,
March 26
of 2017, I think. I’ve already even
forgotten when all that was. Quite
a long time ago. And
Putin got scared—what do you mean, young people
have suddenly gone out to rallies and are all
dissatisfied? There were meetings, you
remember, and some bloggers spoke in the
State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s parliament), and Medvedev was tasked with dealing with
youth policy. And everyone was giving
various pieces of advice, and there were endless
experts and discussions about what the authorities
would do in terms of youth
policy to attract young people to
their side. And they kept thinking, kept
thinking, and came up with a brilliant idea.
Ban everything, damn it. Just look
at the bans this autumn. There is, there is
such a thing as a map of bans.
You see? In Russia in 2018,
a map of bans appeared. Just
take a look, I mean, yes, there’s
Makhachkala and Vladikavkaz, of course, but everything
else—places where you could at least
theoretically suppose that the local
population is genuinely, well,
annoyed by, I don’t know, naked
women running around on stage—though nobody has
naked women running around on stage. Everything
else is perfectly ordinary places where any
concerts have been allowed for the last 30 years
or 35 years. I, for one,
was a big fan of rock music back in
my final years of school and in
my student years.
Well, those were already wild times. I mean,
it was the very beginning of the 1990s. Nobody
there was some concert, I think,
I was on my way to some punk concert, I won’t
even pretend to remember which one. And we got there, and
it had either been banned, or those
punks had been kicked out of the club. Something
like that. I mean, that kind of thing hadn’t happened. It had all
ended in the late 1980s.
And then suddenly, banned concerts again,
banned musicians.
A completely fantastical
uh,
some kind of
utterly absurd explanation. I saw
a headline saying that all these rappers
are working for Ukraine.
What does that even, what does that even
mean? What, the hell, are they— I’m already, I’m already,
sorry, I’ve run the program a bit long.
Turns out I’ve been going on for more than an hour
already. Let me just
pull myself together a bit. What does it even mean
for rappers to be “working for Ukraine”?
It’s unclear. And it’s really great that
people did get outraged, after all, and there is
some kind of response, I guess. I went with
my family—well, without Zakhar, actually, he’s
too little for that. He’s
too young. I went to the concert
that took place in Moscow, the concert in
support of solidarity. Let’s watch 39 seconds
of it. There were some fairly
well, moderately political, but still
political speeches there. Oxxxymiron, 39 seconds.
When they came for the communists,
I stayed silent, because I was not
a communist.
When they came for the Jews, I stayed silent,
because I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left
who could defend me, or
something like that. And it’s clear that
this is a problem not only of our time and
place; it’s a problem in all times and in
all countries. But we do not live in other
times or in other countries. We live
here. And that is why this problem is, for us now,
relevant here.
And by that point they had already released the rapper
Husky, and hoped that, well, nothing would come of it,
that no concert would happen, or people
wouldn’t go to it, or there wouldn’t be any kind of
political tension. And everyone took this
to mean that, well, they let him go
not because they were frightened,
but because they realized they were wrong. And some
ridiculous, ridiculous things were written by
Margarita Simonyan, saying that the Presidential Administration
had understood
that local officials had, so to speak, gone too far. And
that’s why Husky was released. Everything’s fine,
guys, don’t worry. But then
literally the very next day there was a completely
hellish situation with the musicians of the group IC3PEAK.
We even got a short
comment from them. Navalny Live, 30
54 seconds. Let’s watch it after all,
because, well, Lyuba Sobol called me
and said, “Can I, let me get
a comment from IC3PEAK, because in
Perm they’re being hunted by the police and the FSB (Russia’s security service).” But I, uh,
typed IC3PEAK into YouTube.
Great group, by the way. Uh, many,
many millions of views. So it turns out I’m
really out of the loop. But I’m watching and
thinking: why exactly is the FSB after them? It’s not clear.
If they were calling for some kind of terrorist attack,
that would be one thing, but they really were being pursued by
the FSB. Here’s what they themselves told us. 54
seconds.
Hi. Kolya and Nastya here.
Hi. Yes, we’ve just made it to
the apartment where we’re
staying in Perm. We really have
had suspected FSB officers
on our tail this whole time. We drove around the city
trying to shake them. Their task
was to escort us out of the city, or
make sure that we were leaving it, or
would leave soon, and that we were not
planning to give any more concerts here
today.
They were very persistent, despite the fact
that we had a lawyer with us. They still
insisted that they
absolutely had to escort us.
They demanded to see our train tickets,
which of course we did not show them,
because we had already been searched before the train
in Kazan.
So, I mean, there was no aggression, no
use of force against us. Everything
was very polite and calm, but the people did not
identify themselves. When asked what was going on, why,
they gave no answers. Just: we will
escort you.
So people were literally declared some kind of
enemies of the people, enemies of the state,
because, well, they’re musicians, and yet
colossal resources were deployed. The mayor
of Perm shows up to cancel the concert.
Then they’re chased down. They hide somewhere.
It’s some kind of, well, comic
and at the same time idiotic detective
story, where lots of different agencies
are hunting down the musicians of IC3PEAK, because
because, because the state needs
someone to fight. And at the same time the state
is handing out awards. It fights enemies. And
at that very same time, somewhere there in the Kremlin, Putin
was decorating those who, well, on behalf of the country, on behalf
of the people—at the same time he
is protecting the public from IC3PEAK and
rewarding those who are dear and pleasing to that
public. Let’s take a look at whom exactly he
was awarding with the Order of Merit for
to the Fatherland, second class or something,
or first class, to Usmanov—the man who
robbed all of us. The man who
first stole at Gazprom, and then went on to
do nothing more than ensure that the profits
from mining and processing plants—well, that is,
they dug resources out of our land, sold them
abroad, and kept the money there, leaving the profits
in offshore companies so that
they would not even have to pay taxes here. In other words,
not only were we never paid for those raw materials,
they seized this mining and processing
plant, paid us nothing for anything—we were
robbed, and now he is supposed to be rewarded. For what
exactly should he be rewarded? What services has he rendered
to the Fatherland? That he bought the yacht
Dilbar for €450 million with our money?
For living there on that yacht abroad
and only coming here in order to
I don’t know, switch on some huge
counting machine that no longer counts
banknotes but suitcases full of money. Who else
did they decorate? Let’s take a look at who this
young, uh, little dude is. Maybe some of you
don’t know. Young Rotenberg,
by the way, speaks Finnish better
than he speaks Russian. A citizen,
I believe, of Finland. And young
Rotenberg was awarded the Order of
Friendship.
For what?
Who needs him at all? Who needs them? Who
in this country values them or is grateful to them? Well,
apart from some of their servants who
work for them. All these people—why
are they being decorated in our name while
at the same time, well, this band IC3PEAK,
whether you like them or not, at least has
millions of views,
millions of people—hundreds of thousands of people—
appreciate their work. They bring them
joy and happiness. People go to their
concerts and pay money for those concerts.
And the clubs receive that money and pay
their employees’ wages. The group
benefits both people and the economy. But
those two, on the contrary, steal. And yet,
some are hunted down by the FSB (Russia’s security service), while others are
ostentatiously decorated in the Kremlin. And that—
well, that is, of course, a brilliant
youth policy. That really is, uh, what
they came up with. And this is, of course, the answer
to those who think some kind of thaw
is possible, or that this Kremlin
might learn from its idiotic
mistakes. Naively, you may think that they
do something idiotic, like jailing the rapper
Husky, but then say to each other, "Well,
we kind of messed up there, let’s
stop doing that." No,
I see Husky, L, Pharaoh, Monetochka,
Matrang—there is already some list of
so-called extremist groups. Good Lord, who
compiled it? By what criteria
was it even compiled? Who on earth thought of
banning Monetochka?
There is no explanation for this. And it will never
end, because these people want to
devour everyone. And even though I’ve
run over time, I won’t respect myself
if I don’t say something about Sergei
Mokhnatkin, whom they are devouring, well,
almost literally. I
even know him a little. Uh, well, sort of
like that. Hello, hello. He is
a man—an elderly man already.
He used to go to rallies. And at one of
those rallies he was arrested, simply because
he happened to be passing by there, and he
wasn’t even taking part. The police were dragging
some woman away somewhere, and he stood up
for her. And so they slapped him with his first
prison term, uh, because he had allegedly struck
a police officer. No one saw this alleged blow
to the officer, and he was imprisoned,
I think, for three years. But he is the kind of person who,
despite being elderly,
is inwardly very tough—he just tells them all
to go to hell. My assumption
is that they wanted to recruit him, and
he told them where to go. I mean,
the point is, he served one sentence.
Then they pinned another charge on him: disrupting
the operation of the penal colony—that this old man,
supposedly wanted to stage a prison
riot. They kept him constantly in a punishment cell, gave
him another sentence, and broke
his spine, claiming, of course, that he
had simply fallen down the stairs or something. So,
they beat him, they torture him. And then
when this next sentence was already coming to an end,
they sent him back to a pretrial detention center (SIZO), pinning on him
yet another charge of disrupting
the operation of the colony—you can imagine
what scoundrels they are. It’s simply that they do not
like him because he turned out to be
such a steadfast person. And they
simply decided to kill him,
and they are killing him. They sent him again to
the SIZO. What danger does he pose to society?
What is his guilt? What exactly did he do?
Tell us how exactly he
disrupted the operation of the colony.
They broke the spine of this sick
man. Even the prison doctors there
were saying, "He cannot be taken to
trial." Nevertheless, a week before
he was due to be released, just a week before,
they sent him back to the SIZO again, opened a new case, and are not
letting him out. There is this well-known expression:
"to let someone rot in prison." That is exactly what
they are doing in practice: trying
to let a man rot in prison, and they have almost
already done it. So, well, uh,
someday
there will be a Mokhnatkin list in Russia, including
among others, and those people who
were involved in this entire chain—them,
Of course, they really need to be locked up for a long time.
Because they are all executioners. And, and
someday there will be a big debate: "Why
should we imprison this court secretary
from the court where Mokhnatkin was tried? Well, he was
just a technical functionary." He was not
a technical functionary; he took part in
this procedure, which was called
rotting an innocent person in prison. That is why they
all need to be put on trial, and then they
all need to be sent, uh, to the place where
Mokhnatkin was imprisoned. Ah—
let's decorate the gallows with light bulbs. That's the title of
my final topic. And it cannot
be called anything else, because that is exactly
what the federal government is proposing.
Our minister came to
Krasnoyarsk. Krasnoyarsk is a very
special city in Russia. It is a major
industrial center. Uh, and it is known not
only for that; it also has this marvel—well,
a monstrous environmental situation. There, there is this,
I think it is the only city where there is
this sort of thing, legally established,
called the "black sky" regime.
It is declared from time to time because
the amount of emissions—well, the way things are set up there,
the wind patterns are such, and Krasnoyarsk
lies in a lowland. So this, this smog and
the emissions from the metallurgical plants,
the chemical plants, uh, well, from all this
industry, they just hang over
the city. And when especially—and it hangs there
all the time—but when there is especially a lot of it and
people are simply breathing some poisonous
substance instead of air, they declare
a "black sky" regime. For example, well,
they recommend keeping
the windows shut and not letting children go outside.
Just think what it is like to live that way.
And if you live in a city where
a "black sky" regime is declared, then you
simply know that you will live there, well,
for 10 years less, because you are breathing
poison. Then the environment minister came,
and he was asked: "So, like, dude, what
are we supposed to do?" Well then, let's
listen, uh,
to what exactly should be done, what his
breakthrough idea was regarding the pipes of
industrial enterprises that are harming
the residents of Krasnoyarsk. Fifty seconds from
an official.
One more point. Today, well, with the Universiade coming soon,
what strikes the eye
of a person who has come
from, as it were, beautifully made-up Moscow,
you know—though it was not always like that either.
I noticed, Sergey Semyonovich, that
basically, perhaps from the Tyumen
region, you brought something that Moscow did not have
before. You have a huge
number of chimneys sticking up, and they
really catch the eye and remind
everyone that it is not the little chimneys above private
homes that are doing the harm, but rather
the big smokestacks.
Think about decorating these smokestacks at night,
at night,
so that they would glow, so that there would be
some kind of
illumination on them. Well,
add a little, little something to these smokestacks,
some extra effect.
Well, that's a great idea, right? You are breathing
poison, that poison is coming from the smokestacks, and you
look at those smokestacks, and you constantly,
well, are reminded that, uh, you are
breathing poison. It ruins your mood?
So what, are you somehow stupid,
people of Krasnoyarsk? Haven't you figured it out yet?
Decorate the smokestacks with light bulbs, with Christmas garlands,
and you will look at these
smokestacks and feel happy, and you will not
be thinking about the fact that some kind of
poisonous smoke is coming out of them. You will simply
look and say: "Well, a light bulb is
pretty, it's a holiday decoration."
After all, we have come from
the metropolis. We are sophisticated people from
Moscow, ministers in black cars,
well, capable of understanding things. And as for
you, you just need to switch on a red
light, and you will feel better. And if it
is red, and then yellow, then green,
that will be even better. And you know, if on top of
the smokestack you put a ball like this,
like on a Christmas tree, or a star, that would be
really great. In Krasnoyarsk everyone would then
maybe even spontaneously
start dancing, forming circle dances
around the factory and rejoicing. This is
actually what is called
the federal government. The man did not say it as a joke,
after all. At a meeting there sits
a whole bunch of idlers. Each one has
an enormous salary. This one's salary is something like
a million rubles a year.
Decorate them with light bulbs, with light bulbs. That is why
I called this section: "Let's decorate
the gallows with some lovely
flowers." That is what they are all offering us.
But in the beautiful Russia of the future
everything will be different. In order
to throw these decorators, these light-bulb people,
out of their, uh, offices,
register on the website 2019.vво.
And I will see you next Thursday.
Bye.