after the verdict was handed down, as Navalny writes
the legally required deadline for
providing him with the text of the verdict, and
he still has not been given anything.
Therefore, he considers his house arrest
illegal and does not intend to comply with
its terms. On his blog, the politician
published a photo of the monitoring
ankle bracelet, which he cut off with a kitchen
knife. Meanwhile, FSIN officers have already been sent to
Navalny; the agency says an inspector is on the way to him.
It says it will go to court if
the information published by the politician
is confirmed. We will learn all the details from
Alexei Navalny himself — he is joining us live
from our studio. Alexei, good
good afternoon — good evening. Can you hear
the TV Rain studio? Good evening, I can hear you.
Excellent. We understand that someone is now on the way to you —
an FSIN officer. Has he arrived yet or not?
And what do you expect from his visit? What do you
think will happen when he
arrives? I don’t know what will happen
when he arrives. He called me about
10 minutes ago and asked what he should
tell his superiors. Well, I said:
Tell your superiors that I do not intend
to comply with an illegal house arrest.
You just said that opposition figure
Alexei Navalny considers his house
arrest illegal. This is not just opposition figure Alexei
Navalny who considers the arrest illegal — rather,
the Criminal Procedure Code directly
states that it is impossible to keep someone under
house arrest after
a verdict has been handed down. House arrest is
either for suspects or for
the accused, and I have already been sentenced.
Yes, and on your blog you even linked to
the provisions that say that within
5 days the verdict must be provided, and you
still have not received it. Could you
explain in more detail why you decided to
act this way? Why did you decide to remove the bracelet
without waiting for some kind of, well, I don’t know,
official court ruling or an FSIN decision
stating that you had been released from
house arrest? Well, I was waiting for it — I was waiting for the verdict
so I could receive it and see what to do with it,
to file an appeal. Everyone keeps asking me
when I am going to file
the appeal, but I cannot file it
because they are not giving me the verdict
in writing. It is an absurd and outrageous system. Perhaps
for non-lawyers it is not entirely clear why
I am so outraged, but this is an absolute
nonsense: a person is effectively deprived of freedom.
Not to mention my brother, who is in
pretrial detention (SIZO) without a verdict. In general, in a SIZO
they do not hold people without a verdict, so I
waited the five days during which they were supposed to give me
the verdict, after which I am acting fully in accordance with
the Criminal Procedure Code. And are there still
police officers stationed at your building entrance?
Because we
saw all the photos that were
posted after you first
violated the terms of your house
arrest and went to Manezhnaya Square.
Or is there no one there now? Well, in that
comical situation where on my landing
there were four large
policemen standing there, not even understanding themselves why
they were there — of course they are not there now. Maybe
someone is on duty near the entrance; I
have no idea. Are you now, so to speak,
deliberately escalating the situation,
trying to draw attention to yourself
as a politician and public
figure? And for what purpose are you doing
this? Well, first of all, I do not
agree with you — that is not the case at all. I am not
escalating anything. What do you mean, escalating?
I am simply following what is
written in the Criminal Procedure
Code. They are the ones escalating the situation,
because what is happening to me
right now is unlawful deprivation of liberty.
Even if we assume that the verdict
that was handed down has any
relation at all to justice — that is,
this is outright unlawful deprivation
of liberty. And when I am detained without
drawing up a detention report, taken
home, and then, for some unclear reason, there is
police standing here, and so on and so forth. And
Moskvoretsky Court itself told FSIN
that they cannot consider anything
because Navalny’s situation is no longer
governed by the Criminal Procedure
Code. This is a violation of the law, so I am
not drawing any attention to myself — I am
simply
taking off a bracelet that, by law, should not
be on me, and exercising
the normal rights of a person and a citizen.
What, is simply leaving the house and going to
work, or just leaving the house
to walk in the yard with my children, somehow drawing
attention to myself? I draw exactly as much attention to myself
as
is needed to spend time with my children and go to the office.
As you wrote on your blog — or, I don’t
know, make some kind of statements
or calls for some new
actions?
Well,
in any case, I will make whatever statements
I need to make. I am going to do exactly what I did before:
go to work, work on
my Anti-Corruption Foundation,
work on building the Party of
Progress, and make political
statements at the moments when I believe
political statements need to be
made.
Of course, in some cases I am a witness,
in others... What kind of reaction do you think this will provoke?
there will be pressure from the authorities on your side
won't the term of house arrest
be sped up, for example, the investigation in that case
of the same matter, or say reclassify
your status in the case involving the theft
of the painting? I do not rule it out, in order to
hamper my activities, so I do not
rule out new charges, and then there could be a new
court ruling in another case. Could you also end up under
house arrest or somewhere else? I certainly do not
rule that out, but trying to predict what
they are going to do makes absolutely no
sense, because we keep trying
to predict some of their
legal steps, when we should be looking at
the political situation as a whole. These people
are perfectly comfortable with the idea
that they must either
intimidate their opponents—everyone must keep quiet—and those
who are not afraid must be shoved
somewhere under house arrest or into custody
and have their means, communication,
internet access, and so on blocked. So overall
of course I do not expect anything different, except
I do not know in what form exactly right now. And what am I doing
right now? Take note: not only
with us—well, not only with us. Well,
I am, naturally, once again, not
going to do anything
extraordinary. I am going to do what
the law allows one to do
what any normal person is legally entitled to do, including
speaking with journalists, to your
brother, colleague Navalny, who
is currently in a pretrial detention center (SIZO), somehow
getting in touch with him, perhaps trying to see him. Well,
I absolutely do not rule out that I myself could
end up in a SIZO as well. As for Oleg,
who is currently being held in Butyrka (a Moscow detention prison),
if I remember correctly, his wife
of course. Therefore I am not going
to use up this quota for visits, because right now in
Butyrka it's effectively the New Year holiday period, so he cannot even
receive letters. Starting from January 12, it will be possible
to write to him again, and that is how
I will communicate with him. And as for
visits, of course his wife will be the one to go
see him. Today, according to him, he did not
violate the law in any way, because
the verdict was still not provided to us within five days
as required.
